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The House Oversight Committee Releases The Howard Lutnick Deposition Transcript (5/14/26) · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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  Epstein Chronicles. Last week, Howard Lutnick gave his testimony to
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  Congress about his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein, and according to
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  certain members of Congress, mister Lutnick was evasive and wasn't
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  telling the whole truth. And at the time, I told
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  you that we didn't have the transcript, so I wasn't
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  willing to jump down that rabbit hole just yet until
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  we had a chance to take a look at the
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  transcript for ourselves. And well we've had a look, and
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  in my opinion, old Howie boy was playing pretty loose
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  with the truth. And after we dive into this article,
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  we're going to dive into that deposition and all of
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  you can decide for yourselves what you think, all right,
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  So before we get there, why don't we dive into
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  this article from CBS News and see what they had
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  to say about Lutnick and the testimony. Headline Lutnik testified
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  he knew little about Epstein is next door neighbor. This
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  article was authored by Graham Kates, and I have a
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  hard time believing that. From the very beginning, I said
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  that you're a neighbor of this guy. All these people
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  are always over there, people are moving in and out.
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  And we know that Lutnik had his own security system, right,
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  You mean to tell me he didn't have his own
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  camera system? Okay? Sure? Did the FBI ever get that
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  from him? I'm not saying that Howard Lutnik was involved
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  with abusing anybody, but I think he knows a lot
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  more than he's ever let on. And I think that's
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  the truth for the vast majority of people that have
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  been caught up in this fallout, The vast majority of
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  people that we're talking about, at least as far as
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  the evidence has shown us so far, weren't involved in
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  the actual abuse. That was a handful of people. Leon
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  Black allegedly, Les Wexner allegedly, Mark Dubin allegedly, Jean luc
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  Burnel for sure, Prince Andrew Okay allegedly. But you know, then,
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  of course you have people like Marvin Minsky, Bill Richardson,
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  George Mitchell. These are all people that have been accused
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  credibly and nothing's come of it. So for all the
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  people out there that are talking about, oh, names, names, names,
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  why don't you do something with the names you have
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  I think that would be the proper place to start.
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  And then we can talk about other people if you want.
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  You know, the Sarah Kelln Vickers of the world, the
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  Adriana Rosses of the world, the Leslie Groffs of the world,
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  the Darren Endykes of the world. And that's what I
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  mean when I tell you that there's layers to this.
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  And while not everybody was guilty of the abuse itself,
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  all these people that were around them, all these people
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  that spend time with them, they're all guilty of enabling him.
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  And while that might or might not be criminal, depending
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  on what they did, it should be socially unacceptable. Cohmer
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  Secretary Howard Lutnick said he was unaware for years that
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  is next door neighbor Jeffrey Epstein was a registered sex offender,
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  according to a transcript of testimony released Wednesday by the
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  House Oversight Committee. And wait until you guys get a
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  look at this. It's laughable at best. And honestly, I
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  didn't expect any different from Howard Lutnick. I mean, real talk,
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  does the guy have an honest bone in his body?
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  I don't think he does. I honestly do not think
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  he does. Lutnick also described a crew to remark Epstein
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  once made about getting the right kind of massage. He
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  said it to me, and my wife is standing right
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  next to me, and we looked at each other and
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  we left, Lutnick said, And it would be one thing
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  if that was the whole story. It's not. You were
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  so disgusted that you decided to go to his island.
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  You decided to get into business with them. Does that
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  sound like somebody who's disgusted to you, because it sure doesn't.
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  To me. What it sounds like is a guy who
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  got caught. That's what it sounds like. Lutnik recounted the
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  conversation as he voluntarily testified before the committee behind closed
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  doors on May sixth. He faced questions about his relationship
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  with Jeffrey Epstein and his evolving statements about their history. Well,
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  that's a nice way to say his lies, right, his
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  evolving statements about their history. Let's just call it what
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  it is, an absolute lie, because that's what Lutnik's been doing,
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  lying about his history and his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein.
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  That day, Democrats on the committee accused Lutnik of being evasive,
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  saying he made a farce of the English language in
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  order to mislead the public and calling on him to
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  resign over his changing accounts of his interactions with the
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  late sex offender. Well, those are the allegations that were
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  made by the Democrats, right, So when we go through
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  the transcript, you're going to have the chance to judge
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  for yourself if they were lying or if they were
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  telling the truth about their interactions with and I think
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  it's important that we hold everybody accountable. It doesn't matter
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  if it's Thomas Massey, if it's Rocanna or anybody else.
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  And it's super important that this is done in a nonpartisan,
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  non bias way. I know that's very difficult considering, you know,
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  the circumstances and the current environment, but we have to
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  strive for that. Don't We have enough arguments as it is,
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  partisan arguments in other areas. We can't even come together
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  to say that people that are molesting kids and committing
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  all kinds of crazy financial crimes and immigration fraud should
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  be investigated. I would think that that would be universal,
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  but of course not, and that too is by design.
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  The last thing they want is the pitchforks and the
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  torches coming together. They don't want that. They have to
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  have you fighting. They want you occupied with this tribalism.
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  And while you're occupied with the tribalism, they're a robin
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  you blind. And the crazy part is you have people
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  out here showing up like Oliver Twist with a bowl
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  asking for some more. But GOP Representative James Comer, the
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  House Oversight Committee chairman, said Democrats were twisting Leutnix words
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  and had come into the interview to push a narrative
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  to damage President Trump. Oh I'm sure they did. Let's
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  be very clear. That is their goal. And if you
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  think I trust the Democrats to handle this, you're crazy.
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  And frankly, I look at the Democrats as a tool.
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  That's it, nothing more, nothing less. These Democrats, if they're
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  pushing the right narrative and they're pushing for transparency grad
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  but if any of them think they're not going to
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  be held accountable, they got another thing coming too, Because
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  when it comes to this investigation, this cover up, there
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  are no sacred cows. Anybody involved and everybody involved needs
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  to be exposed. It's never about holding people accountable that
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  should have been prosecuted or prosecuted. Epstein years ago it's
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  always about Donald Trump. Comer tol reporters on a sixth Well, look,
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  that's part of the trap. And there's people out there
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  that cried, oh, well, what do you mean it's a trap?
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  What you don't want to talk about Trump? No, I
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  didn't say that, But it's a trap. You have to
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  understand who you're dealing with and just how far these
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  people are willing to go to make sure this never
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  comes out. And that's why focusing only on Trump is
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  part of the trap, because Trump is just a part
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  of the story. This is deeper and bigger than Donald Trump.
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  As I've told you for years, it's much larger than
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  any single politician. This strikes directly to the heart of
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  the system itself and the international order, not just America internationally.
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  And while Trump is certainly a big part of the
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  conversation now, of course, especially with this ongoing cover up,
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  he is not the only part of the story. And
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  when people only focus on him, you're providing these gules
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  like an a a luna with the ammunition they need
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  to try and frame this as a hoax. And you're
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  not gonna take Donald Trump down being ham handed. You're
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  gonna have to match him, and you're gonna have to
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  be as devious, You're gonna have to be as wily,
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  and you're gonna have to be able and willing to
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  go down corridors other people won't go. And that means
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  getting creative. You can't be ham handed. How's that worked out?
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  How did Russia get work out? How have all these
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  other traps that have been set work out? Not very good? Right?
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  So when I tell you to focus on the cover up,
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  that's what I mean. Focus on the cover up, because
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  if you want real action, you want real justice, that's
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  the way to get there. Because if you expose the
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  cover up, they were obviously covering up for somebody, right,
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  so that'll be exposed too. So if Donald Trump and
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  his administration is playing for DJs, you have to play
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  five dchess. And that's the point I've been trying to
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  slam home when it comes to focusing so much on
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  Donald Trump. The files revealed that Epstein and Lutnik were
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  in business together as recently as twenty fourteen, investing simultaneously
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  in a now shuttered advertising company called Adfinn. Lutnick said
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  during the deposition that he was unaware of Epstein as
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  an investor in the company. Lutnik has for years insisted
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  he had little relationship with Epstein, who was his neighbor
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  in New York City, but is more recently acknowledged visiting
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  Epstein's private island with his family in twenty twelve, after
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  the files documenting the trip were made public. Well, it's
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  easy to admit it after you've been outed. How about
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  having the courage to come forward previously? Why didn't you
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  come forward during the first investigation. Yeah, I knew Epstein,
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  I was on his island. Can I help out anything
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  I can do for the women? But of course not right,
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  kept quiet and hoped it would all go away. Lutnik
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  for years in he had little relationship with Epstein, who
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  was his neighbor in New York City, but has more
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  recently acknowledged visiting Epstein's private island with his family. In
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  twenty twelve, after the files documenting the trip were made public, Lutnick,
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  his wife Allison, and their children visited Little Saint James
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  Epstein's Caribbean island not long before Epstein and Lutnick invested
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  in adfin An undated photo from the files show Epstein
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  and Lutnick among a group of men on the island,
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  But don't worry. His wife, his kids, and all of
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  his nannies came home. Whatever that means. Lutnick, the former
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  chairman of the financial services firm counter Fitzgerald, has previously
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  said he cut ties with Epstein in two thousand and five,
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  three years before Epstein entered a guilty plea to state
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  prostitution charges in Florida. Lutnick told the committee he purchased
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  the property next to Epstein's home on New York's Upper
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  East Side in nineteen ninety seven, but didn't move until
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  after renovations were complete in two thousand and five. Lutnick
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  said he met Epstein just three times, including his family's
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  visit to the island. Oh yeah, three times. Is it
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  right next door? Three times? Look, I'm not exactly mister pleasant,
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  but I know my neighbors. During the two thousand and
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  five visit, a coffee and tour of Epstein's townhouse that
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  Lutnick said his wife also joined, he said that he
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  was turned off by a crude comment related to a
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  massage table in the home, and he concluded he didn't
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  want a relationship with Epstein. He also described one other
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  meeting a discussion about Epstein's foyer. Oh yeah, let's talk
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  about the foyer. That's what rich people talk about, right.
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  Lutnick was the latest in a preate of powerful people
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  to testify for the committee after their names or pictures
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  appeared in more than three million pages of records known
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  as the Epstein Files. Others who testified include the executors
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  of Epstein's estate, as well as former President Bill Clinton,
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  former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, and billionaire businessman Les Wexner.
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  They have not been accused of wrongdoing and denied any
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  knowledge of Epstein's abuses. Former Attorney General Pam Bondy has
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  agreed to testify before the panel later this month, and
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  I expect that to be a banger. No. I can
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  only imagine what Pam Bondy is going to have to say. Unfortunately,
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  it's closed door. That should be open door. We should
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  hear every last thing that Pam Bondy has to say
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  about Jeffrey Epstein. Unfortunately we won't, but we should. And
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  as far as Lutnik goes, well, you're going to get
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  to judge for yourself very soon what you think about
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  the transcript and if Howard Lutnik has been telling us
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  the truth or just bs in us. All the information
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  that goes with this episode can be found in the
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  description box.