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INTERVIEW: Knowa De Baraso Talks Media Distrust, Political Engagement, America's Biggest Challenge, AI, Social Media + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Every day a week ago up the breakfast club. You
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  Speaker 1: don't finish for y'all done morning.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody's d j en vy just hilarious, Charlamagne the God
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  Speaker 2: we are the breakfast club. Law n the Roses here
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  Speaker 2: as well. We got a special guest in the buildings. Indeed,
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  Speaker 2: Noah day Barasso, that's.
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  Speaker 3: Right, Yes, you did. How you doing good? We got
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  Speaker 3: just hilarious in the buildings.
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  Speaker 2: Noah came he here says, I just got one question
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  Speaker 2: to ask you, MV. Are you really Dominican? No, I'm
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  Speaker 2: not Dominican. I am not Dominican.
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  Speaker 1: Nor I'm not you know it.
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  Speaker 4: Has never been to New York City. This is the
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  Speaker 4: first time in New York, so, he said. He met
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  Speaker 4: a lot of people here in the city that remind
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  Speaker 4: him of you, the Dominicans.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, but I am not Dominican. If I'm Dominican, you
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  Speaker 2: Dominican're Dominican.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not Dominican. Okay, neither, but you are.
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  Speaker 5: Like parades and everything.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I'm not Dominican.
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  Speaker 1: Dominicans. How are you doing, young man?
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  Speaker 3: I'm doing good. I'm ready to have a great necessary
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  Speaker 3: conversation about about everything I can think of. I'm ready
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  Speaker 3: where do you want to start You want to a
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  Speaker 3: little bit about yourself? Yeah, well, you know, thanks to
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  Speaker 3: Charla Maine, I have a podcast on iHeart, the same
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  Speaker 3: network here. My studio looks similar to this one, except
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  Speaker 3: it's not in the building, and we'll talked about misinformation
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  Speaker 3: the black community, misinformation with not only the black community
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  Speaker 3: but in all communities, politics and things that we need
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  Speaker 3: to talk about that we really don't talk about enough
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  Speaker 3: at all.
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  Speaker 1: It's called it now, you know podcasts now.
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  Speaker 3: So that's exactly right. And your Yeah, what what.
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  Speaker 1: Got your interest into politics?
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  Speaker 3: That is a good question. So not only like the
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  Speaker 3: ads you see like in Georgia being a swing state,
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  Speaker 3: but things like social media. Misinformation on social media makes
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  Speaker 3: me so mad, Like I'm sure you see the stuff
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  Speaker 3: on Instagram that's just like blatantly not true. And that's
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  Speaker 3: kind of what I want to talk about a little bit,
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  Speaker 3: is that you see so much misinformation like for example,
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  Speaker 3: Joe Bien and none for black people or stuff like
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  Speaker 3: that that makes you so upset that you just have
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  Speaker 3: to speak up. And then when you speak up, I
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  Speaker 3: guess they clip it or whatever, and there you go.
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  Speaker 3: Do you feel like your generation cares about politics. Yes, yes,
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  Speaker 3: more than they care more than the older generations because
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  Speaker 3: it is their future and they care, but it and
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  Speaker 3: and they're often misguided, which is unfair to the young
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  Speaker 3: people because of the the what they've been given, the
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  Speaker 3: hand they were dealt, and the social media that we're given.
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  Speaker 3: We have to we have to clean it up and
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  Speaker 3: make it a good place.
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  Speaker 1: How do you get it to so early?
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  Speaker 2: Like what got you like so early into politics?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? Like just being on social media. That's why one
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  Speaker 3: thing I want to say is that it is really
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  Speaker 3: important to put your children on social media. I will
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  Speaker 3: say that a lot of people will disagree. We just yeah,
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  Speaker 3: so break it down. I'm so happy about that because
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  Speaker 3: it is so important to have your kids on social
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  Speaker 3: media for the pure reason of this. So for example, right,
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  Speaker 3: you see every day that you hear, oh, young people
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  Speaker 3: don't go outside no more? Young No, let me say
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  Speaker 3: you so, young.
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  Speaker 1: People don't break it down?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, young people don't go outside no more. Young people
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  Speaker 3: don't play. I would rather young people be learning about
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  Speaker 3: echon being outside, and the only way you can do
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  Speaker 3: that is being on social media, being on the phone.
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  Speaker 3: So if you're limiting yourself for the simple reason of
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  Speaker 3: it's different from how it used to be. It's it's ineffective,
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  Speaker 3: and it's it's like usually and there are parents in
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  Speaker 3: the building, but usually most times everything that you learn
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  Speaker 3: nowadays is on the phone, and it's not really often
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  Speaker 3: I've learned more on the phone than school.
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  Speaker 4: I don't want children to be platform dependent though, right,
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  Speaker 4: Like I don't want them to just learn from YouTube.
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  Speaker 4: I don't want them to learn how to socialize on
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  Speaker 4: just social media. Like you know, you have neighborhoods and
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  Speaker 4: you know, local communities that used to shape you know,
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  Speaker 4: people's childhoods now that.
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  Speaker 1: Algorithms do it.
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  Speaker 4: Do we really want these techno lords to be in
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  Speaker 4: charge of shaping our kids' minds?
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  Speaker 1: Noah? Like do I want Elon must shaping what you digest?
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  Speaker 1: Every day?
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  Speaker 3: You try to get me mad? I say, Elon, Oh
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  Speaker 3: Lord no, But I will say this. It's not that
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  Speaker 3: we should make them algorithm dependent. Is that we shouldn't
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  Speaker 3: limit the algorithm to them. Like for example, they try
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  Speaker 3: to do a bill in Georgia banning people under fourteen
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  Speaker 3: from social media's and I was so outspoken against it.
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  Speaker 3: Is because that is limiting everyone under fourteen and limiting
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  Speaker 3: them to a certain amount of resources. So I want
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  Speaker 3: to say make them algorithm dependent, just don't limit those resources.
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  Speaker 1: I said that parents have to be parents at the
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  Speaker 1: end of the day.
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  Speaker 2: Because outside of just politics, outside of those things, like
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  Speaker 2: I was saying earlier, my daughter's dance, they find new
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  Speaker 2: dances by watching TikTok and redoing it. But I'm as
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  Speaker 2: a parent, I have to make sure that I'm on
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  Speaker 2: them to make sure they're not watching bs, that they're
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  Speaker 2: not watching things that can hurt them. They think, not
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  Speaker 2: watching misinformation, things that are wrong.
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  Speaker 3: But yes, use it as a tool.
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  Speaker 4: What do you feel when you see these these technol
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  Speaker 4: lorges as I call them, when you see these Silicon
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  Speaker 4: Valley executives, they don't even allow their own kids to
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  Speaker 4: get on social media because they know the impacts of
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  Speaker 4: social media that people that actually create these platforms don't.
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  Speaker 1: Let their kids use them.
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  Speaker 3: I would have to know the names of the specific
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  Speaker 3: people that are.
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  Speaker 4: Peter til Hes, he limits his kids the one and
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  Speaker 4: a half hours.
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  Speaker 3: A week, ain't moving to Venezuela. Seems like his lifestyle
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  Speaker 3: is functionings, So I don't I don't really know. I
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  Speaker 3: do know ms Elon Musk kids are on the platform.
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  Speaker 3: Elon musk is the mother of his kids are on
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  Speaker 3: social media, so I'll say this about him get support,
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  Speaker 3: they don't get so that the only way to monetize
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  Speaker 3: the social media, So we can't limit their lifestyle.
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  Speaker 1: So Jo didn't let his kids use it was when
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  Speaker 1: did you get see that?
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  Speaker 3: Aleven? That was a long time ago. Now social media
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  Speaker 3: is entirely diferent albums. So what I will get when
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  Speaker 3: what I'm trying to say is social media has a
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  Speaker 3: whole new revenue of information. We cannot limit the young
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  Speaker 3: people to that because that's that's how really I got involved.
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  Speaker 5: What about though, like when peop when older people be like, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: but you'll need to like get outside and experiencing to
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  Speaker 5: like really learn, like have you experienced something in real
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  Speaker 5: life where you were like, okay, this is why I
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  Speaker 5: also need to be like outside though.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to be honest because like I learned more
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  Speaker 3: from social.
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  Speaker 1: Your first moment to me the big.
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  Speaker 3: Mobs outside outside. It's always going to be outside. But
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  Speaker 3: guess how I set it up, email, et cetera. That's
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  Speaker 3: how you get there. That's how you get there.
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  Speaker 5: But but there are the reason why I think you
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  Speaker 5: know that conversation gets pushed back is because there are
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  Speaker 5: kids who will just sit in the basement on stream.
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  Speaker 5: We get that side and experience like there's you got
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  Speaker 5: to balance the musty community. Yeah, we have to protect
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  Speaker 5: those that are willing to be on social media and
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  Speaker 5: outside what.
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  Speaker 3: Is awesome.
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  Speaker 2: Musty people Like, there's certain things that y'all connect on,
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  Speaker 2: Like you know, y'all don't like Musty.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Charla ain't be telling the truth.
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  Speaker 1: Just about people.
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  Speaker 6: But what about the ways that social media affects you know,
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  Speaker 6: these kids mental space, you know what I mean, like
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  Speaker 6: how it changes their moods, how it has depression and anxiety.
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  Speaker 6: So they're not confident and you know what I mean
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  Speaker 6: because they're they're measuring their success based on what they see.
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  Speaker 6: But they're trying to you know, it's hard for them
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  Speaker 6: to fit in because all they're doing is watching their
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  Speaker 6: peers succeed.
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  Speaker 3: Or you know what about if.
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  Speaker 6: It affects affects them in those ways.
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  Speaker 3: I think that is such a thing, like a what
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  Speaker 3: if that you rarely see and I could be wrong,
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  Speaker 3: but that you rarely see actually happen. And I think
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  Speaker 3: it's healthy dialogue if we're on social media and saying, hey,
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  Speaker 3: this person graduated at sixteen. We follow those pages that
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  Speaker 3: are like Black Excellence, pages that are like this kid
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  Speaker 3: graduated with whatever or whatever IQ or one fifty IQ
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  Speaker 3: one nineteen IQ. That creates healthy dialogue about what is
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  Speaker 3: out there that you can't see up the street, down
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  Speaker 3: the street, and it brings you outside of your community.
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  Speaker 3: Let's say, like I want to get a chop cheese.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know where to get a chop cheese out here,
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  Speaker 3: so you go on TikTok. And let's say there's a
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  Speaker 3: kid in the bronx right who has his parents' chop
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  Speaker 3: cheese shop. He might be able to show me the
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  Speaker 3: chop she shop via TikTok that he wouldn't be able
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  Speaker 3: to do within the limits of his community.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I don't have a problem using it for communication, you
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean?
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  Speaker 4: I think that when people use it for actual information
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  Speaker 4: and then don't do any other research. See the reason
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  Speaker 4: that you can get on social media know and know
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  Speaker 4: that there's misinformation because you're actually informed via other ways.
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  Speaker 1: You read a lot.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, y'all had Van Crumb's book over there. That
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  Speaker 3: was wonderful.
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  Speaker 2: What's the biggest thing that you see as far as
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  Speaker 2: information is concerned. What is the big the biggest problems.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the fact that the people are saying. And I'm
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  Speaker 3: not one thing I say on my podcast. I'm not
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  Speaker 3: a talking head for anyone party. But when I see
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  Speaker 3: people say that the Democratic Party doesn't do a lot
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  Speaker 3: for black people, it kind of bothers me because it's
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  Speaker 3: just so obvious that it's not true and the evidence
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  Speaker 3: is right there, and anytime anyone asked me, I'll always
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  Speaker 3: give it. So for example, Joe, and I'm not again,
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  Speaker 3: like I said, I'm not talking here for any one party.
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  Speaker 3: So if the of another party does something good, I'll
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  Speaker 3: talk about it. But when Joe Biden tried to give
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  Speaker 3: black farmers four billion dollars in reparations, no one talked
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  Speaker 3: about it. All we heard is Joe Biden's old and
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  Speaker 3: when he gave it sixteen billion dollars HBCUs, all we talked.
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  Speaker 3: All we heard about was Trump's performative. I think it
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  Speaker 3: was five hundred million a year or whatever. It was
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  Speaker 3: something that wasn't that much, and then that ended up
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  Speaker 3: getting taken back and it was it was a stunt.
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  Speaker 3: And then we saw sixteen billion dollars going to HBCUs
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  Speaker 3: under Joe Biden, and then on top of that, historic
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  Speaker 3: numbers for black businesses. And then I heard, oh, but
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  Speaker 3: Asians got a bill and black people didn't. Untrue. There's
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  Speaker 3: a COVID Hate Crime Act, we had the Emmettel Lynching Act,
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  Speaker 3: everything like that all go under Joe Biden. And honestly,
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  Speaker 3: it's not even the Democratic Party, it's the New Democratic Party.
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  Speaker 3: New nominees are being held accountable by the black community,
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  Speaker 3: which I think is awesome.
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  Speaker 4: Do you think that Democrats do a bad job at
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  Speaker 4: marketing messaging? Yes, because you know all of those things
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  Speaker 4: that you just lay it out. What's so difficult about
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  Speaker 4: them laying that up?
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  Speaker 3: That is a I think we don't listen. Okay, For example,
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  Speaker 3: it's different if I say or if Charlottatne says it,
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  Speaker 3: and if Laurna Rosa says it, then if a guy
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  Speaker 3: from the DNC says it in a suit. So I
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  Speaker 3: think they actually need to send us out to do so,
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  Speaker 3: and to actually send us out to talk about it.
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  Speaker 3: And that's why I think the work of social media
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  Speaker 3: is so important because without that we were just seeing,
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  Speaker 3: we would just be seeing people in suits talk about
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  Speaker 3: how great their party is, that they have stocking, that
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  Speaker 3: they have ownership in.
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  Speaker 6: Which if we can see people that we can relate
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  Speaker 6: to or that has you know, more access to our
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  Speaker 6: minds or whatever that are in our communities every day,
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  Speaker 6: it'll be easily digested.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, But what do you think about when people criticize
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  Speaker 2: their own party.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of people get a lot of flat for criticize.
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  Speaker 2: When they see things that they don't with, But at
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  Speaker 2: the end of the day, you know, we vote, so
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  Speaker 2: we should be able to say, you know, I like this,
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  Speaker 2: I don't like this.
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  Speaker 1: This bothers me.
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  Speaker 3: What's your thoughts on it? It makes me so angry
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  Speaker 3: whenever I say something against the Democratic Party. That's why
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  Speaker 3: I'm thankful for the podcast because had I just had
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  Speaker 3: been on social media, it would have been bad. So
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  Speaker 3: when I'm on the podcast, I don't have to face
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  Speaker 3: criticism for criticizing one party, so to that, like when
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  Speaker 3: I see people criticize Steven A. Smith for example, or Charlemagne,
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  Speaker 3: it makes me so mad because that is why the
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  Speaker 3: party is great. Had we not held Joe Biden accountable
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  Speaker 3: and held the Democratic Party accountable in the twenty twenty primary,
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  Speaker 3: we would have been looking crazy, probably getting limited stuff
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  Speaker 3: for our community. So we have to continue to hold
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  Speaker 3: them accountable. I say, just do it ten times more.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've seen that even in twenty twenty.
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  Speaker 4: I remember when you know, Angela Ray and Sonny Houston,
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  Speaker 4: it was just a bunch of women who were demanding
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  Speaker 4: that Joe Biden make a black woman his VP. And
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  Speaker 4: I saw other people in the party criticize them for that,
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  Speaker 4: as if you're not supposed to ask anything of the
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  Speaker 4: person that you that you're going to vote for.
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  Speaker 3: That is not We're not letting that slide into that
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  Speaker 3: on twenty eight. That's why I say to the black
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  Speaker 3: community getting involved in the primaries and I will vote
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  Speaker 3: dot com and all that stuff, But what I will
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  Speaker 3: say is that we have to get more involved. Like
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  Speaker 3: they are actively trying to kick us out of the party.
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  Speaker 3: They're trying to do like this Rama Manuel, all these people,
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  Speaker 3: they're trying to do like this, they're trying to make
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  Speaker 3: it the Democratic Party. Another piece of misinformation that bothers
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  Speaker 3: me is that they're the idea that there wasn't a
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  Speaker 3: party switch when they're trying to actively kick us out
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  Speaker 3: of the Democratic party. We have to stand up and
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  Speaker 3: vote in record numbers, saying the black community is the
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  Speaker 3: backbone of the Democratic Party.
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  Speaker 5: Explain when you talk about the party switch, like, explain
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  Speaker 5: that for people who don't know what you're talking about.
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  Speaker 3: So it annoys me so much when I hear people say, oh,
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  Speaker 3: Republicans free the slaves, and Democrats wanted slaves, and Cannon.
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  Speaker 5: Went viral for having a conversation like this, and.
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  Speaker 3: They're awesome amboros. But Nick Cannon is a figure in
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  Speaker 3: the black community that is wonderful and has done great
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  Speaker 3: things for the black community. And what I to that,
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  Speaker 3: I will say that I would love to have a
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  Speaker 3: dialogue like I do on the podcast with everyone else
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  Speaker 3: when I say that the party switch. So in regards
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  Speaker 3: to the party switch, then I think nineteen saxty during
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  Speaker 3: the Civil Rights Act, there was a mass exodus of
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  Speaker 3: people leaving the Democratic Party because of what he did
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  Speaker 3: for black beep Lynda P. Johnson did for black people.
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  Speaker 3: And when we talk about freeing the slaves, that was
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  Speaker 3: the Republican Party that freed the slaves. But if anyone
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  Speaker 3: in this room can find me a Democrat that's willing
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  Speaker 3: to rep the Confederate Flag. I would do literally whatever
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  Speaker 3: it's impossible, and that is of ideology. The ideology of
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  Speaker 3: then is now the ideology of Republicans now.
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  Speaker 1: The ideology shift.
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  Speaker 3: Ideology shift, especially after the Civil Rights Act, and you
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  Speaker 3: can google that yourself. Everything I say is easily fat checkable.
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  Speaker 4: What do you think is the biggest thing both parties
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  Speaker 4: are getting wrong about America right now?
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  Speaker 3: What they're getting wrong about America right now is that
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  Speaker 3: we don't They think we don't care, like there's nothing.
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  Speaker 3: They think that we can't do anything but do Instagram
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  Speaker 3: stories about it, and to that I say they're completely false.
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  Speaker 3: Charla Mane, I think perform. I think protests like the
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  Speaker 3: no Kings thing, I don't see that to be very effective.
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  Speaker 3: You don't see me going to protests and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 3: The no King stuff is literally just an example. And
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  Speaker 3: if we're actually more active in voter retoration, like right now,
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  Speaker 3: the Democratic Party is falling behind on voter registration and
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  Speaker 3: instead of organizing these protests that really don't do much,
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  Speaker 3: we should be focusing on registering more voters. And that's
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  Speaker 3: not only something in the Democratic Party. I think the
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  Speaker 3: Republican Party is starting to fall behind because they're getting
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  Speaker 3: comfortable and Democrats will catch up in the midterm.
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  Speaker 4: I think a lot of my activist friends would say
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  Speaker 4: protest raise awareness, and sometimes it takes you know, people
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  Speaker 4: taking it to the street to get everybody you know,
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  Speaker 4: activated to go do things like you know, the voter
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  Speaker 4: registration initiative.
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  Speaker 1: That you're talking about.
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  Speaker 3: Definitely, Yeah, I think it depends on how you organize.
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  Speaker 3: So for example, there's so many candidates that are down
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  Speaker 3: in George like John ossof Heischlan's Bottoms and hopefully Nicki
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  Speaker 3: Porsch will be the Labor Commissioner. Is that there are
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  Speaker 3: so many people that you can organize with and directly
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  Speaker 3: help that I think a protest just cannot because sometimes
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  Speaker 3: it's with a nonprofit that can't even endorse the candidate.
• 13:50
  Speaker 3: So I find that to be challenging to say that's
• 13:53
  Speaker 3: the most effective way to organize.
• 13:55
  Speaker 4: I do agree with that, you know, it's it's something
• 13:57
  Speaker 4: you just you made me think of, something like sometimes
• 14:00
  Speaker 4: you have these voter initiatives, right, but to your point,
• 14:02
  Speaker 4: they can't endorse the candidate.
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: No, So I think it was who was what, I
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: don't know if.
• 14:06
  Speaker 4: It was Michelle Obama's and it was somebody's initiative the
• 14:09
  Speaker 4: last election, just and they was to go.
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: Out there, vote, go out there, vote, gout there vote.
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: You got to tell people for who?
• 14:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like I know it, I know it.
• 14:17
  Speaker 4: You might want to assume, but no, you got to
• 14:19
  Speaker 4: tell some of these people who and why?
• 14:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then like yeah, I just find it non effected.
• 14:24
  Speaker 3: I think people on podcasts and on radio and on
• 14:26
  Speaker 3: stuff like that, and people with voices are way more
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: effective to be messengers than just process that that don't organize. Well,
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: that's all I'm saying.
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: As a fourteen year old young man, do you feel
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: like you're not heard and not seen because you know
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: more about politics than the average person.
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: Listen but you can't but you can't learning right now.
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: But you can't vote. So do you feel unseen?
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: Do you feel unheard? I think thanks to I think
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: they show number one shout to Angeloaan shouted Charlotte, and
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: shout out to Reagient Choice media because I think me personally,
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: I think I have I think they have done a
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: really good job with giving me a microphone and letting
• 14:58
  Speaker 3: me speak about this stuff and shout out to heart
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: as well. But what I will say is that that
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: needs to match the entire generation, and with that, we
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: need to have them on social media. That's why I
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: say that, because it's impossible to grow and expand and
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: use your voice, because you don't have a vote if
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: you're not on social media. It's almost impossible. You literally
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: have to start person by person instead of reaching hundreds
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: of thousands, millions of people at once.
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: Now, I was going to ask one one last question.
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: When you were in school, I know you get your homeschool. Now,
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: do you feel like they were necessarily explaining politics in
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: the way that you would understand it or was it
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: more like a Glazer type of thing where.
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: President's Day the standing up? What were your thoughts on that.
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: It was they I didn't understand anything about politics until
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: I had a black teacher in fifth grade, and that
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: was her off the clock explaining it. They miss rout,
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: shout out, miss route, they do a they do a negative,
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: They do nothing in regards to politics. Everything I have
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: learned from politics has been in school, has been from
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: a teacher off the clock, and that is so unfair
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: for the young people in our education system. So I
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: would encourage the parents and the young people to get
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: involved I don't even I need to do better at
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: local stuff, but get involved in them. School boards, stuff
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: that I need to look more into because that's where
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: that stuff starts. And I think the curriculum is not
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: matching what we need today.
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: I want to talk about the curriculum. What in the
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: curriculum needs to change, because I've been I've been saying
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: that for the longest. What would you change in the
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: curriculum that you feel like does not benefit you and
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: things that you think should be put in a curriculum
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: that would benefit you.
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I really think a lot. And this is something
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: I don't talk about a lot. I really think. I
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: think fifty percent of what we learn in school is
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: nonsense and I have learned, like I keep saying, more
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: from social media than school. And if we're actually teaching
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: politics and having real conversations, like it shouldn't take going
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: on the breakfast club to have a real conversation about
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: what it means like everyone in the everyone that is
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: in school should be able to have a real conversation
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: with an adult without being discounted about what it means
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: to be involved. And that's not happening. We're learning and
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: a lot of times people are not even learning in school.
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: They're getting in trouble at home, they're having mental issues,
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: getting yelled at and beaten, and they're not even learning
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: anything in school. So it's almost like it's almost it's
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: almost unreasonable. In the school system today is the same.
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: It's like it's not a today issue. We have to
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: get to the root of it, and you don't get
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: there by defunding the Secretary of Education.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: How do you think that's true?
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: AI?
• 17:18
  Speaker 6: Are you optimistic or worried about what it could do
• 17:21
  Speaker 6: for your generation?
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: When I see the Aunties post those like AI slot video,
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: it makes me I don't like them. What are you
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: born at a basketball court? Before look AI? Even before
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: the Knicks. It makes my It makes people's content who
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: like do like, who want to do like cool content?
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: It delotes that. So I just hate like the I
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: hate the AI generated. But what I will say is
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: that I use shatgybt. It is performative to insinuate that
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: you do not use shat gybt. It is informative to
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: text your friend and say, hey, doubt delete chat GBT
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: or you're a bad person. And it's almost unreasonable to
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: suggest that we don't use AI every single day, So
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: I think it needs to be looked into. The issue
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: of data centers need to be looked into. Absolutely, it
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: needs to be looked into more because we don't know
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: enough about it right now.
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: As a question before we go back to politics, what
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: what age does Auntie start?
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: I heard you say that.
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: I was literally going to ask you that, like what aunivitytivities?
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: When you see it, you'd be like, that's an Auntie.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: So for me, he's fourteen. By the way, when I'm
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: in New York and there, it is. What I want
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: to make clear about Auntie is that, yes, when you
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: see a black woman educating you, you're automatically Auntie. But
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: when you see people every day in the community, whether
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: they're community leaders, they can be Latino community leaders, Agian
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: community leaders, those are all aunties. I think Auntie is
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: more of a respect role than an age thing. But
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: I will give you a number. I will give you
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: a number. I do believe Auntie and Auntie is not derogatory.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: I hate that we make that derogatory. I think after
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: thirty seven or forty you become tea. Oh he thought
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: you was. I'm not dragons. That's why he putting it
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: out did you say I'm a big sense or Auntie?
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: How old? How old do you think she is?
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: That's hilarious is twenty nine and she will always be
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: twenty nine, you know what you know? Will I will say,
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: I will say cousin crossing Auntie period, because you're not
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: necessarily at the cookout talking to the cousin. You can
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: be with the aunties, like learning to be the next
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: generation of Auntie. So that's where I'm a start about
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: la over there. Cousin, cousin educated, cousin educated cousin.
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: First of all, and we're both thirty four. But yeah,
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: I'm like a couple of months older.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: But when I walk in, I will say automatically Auntie
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: in my mind. So yeah, but cousin, you know, I
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: had no problem. And you know I call everybody Auntie, like, yeah,
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: I don't care if you're a congressman. Sometimes my my,
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: my people say you had a congress woman respect Yeah
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: it is and I but they'll say you have to
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: call her vice president. No, I'm going to krant you
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: like the Kamala Harrison interview on Now. You know, the
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: whole time she was called Auntie, she loved it, and
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: the team was like, Hey, you should call her Madam
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: Vice President. I'm like, probably not, but.
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: Sometimes you have to ask because some older women don't
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: like being Karan.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: Yes, you do have to ask.
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: Don't you think that the former vice president, Kamala Harrs.
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: Don't you think she gets too much flak for what
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: happened in the last election, Like I think they put
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: too much of the blame on her as if it
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: wasn't a whole failure.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: Of the party.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: Yes, I don't think. I don't think it was a
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: timing thing. I think it is really hard to have
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: an incumbent president. Right, you have an incumbent president, no
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: matter what he's done, everyone's complaining about him. And then
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: you have this this woman who's the vice president, the
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: most qualified candidate in American history to run for the presidency.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: You have her jumped in and she raises all this money,
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: and she jumps in and she's fun raising, she's doing
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: the events, she has all the people, the endorsements, the creators,
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: everything on social media going for her, and they're like, Okay,
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: so what about the everyday kitchen table issues? And I
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: think when she runs the twenty twenty eight, because I
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: want her to run twenty twenty eight. I think that
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: we need to address kitchen table issues as a party
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: and then do that stuff. But I think none of
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: that was her fault as a candidate, And I don't understand.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: This is the first time I've seen people blame the
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: candidate and not the candidate scene, not consultants, not DC.
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: This is the first time I've actually seen people blame
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: the candidate. And it is almost scary. Like no one
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: blamed Walter Mondale, no one said, hey, Walter Mondale, you're
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: a failure. No one blamed Doucaucus. No one blamed any
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: of these people even back then. So it's like, and honestly,
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: Hillary Clinton gets the same stuff as well. We need
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: to protect Hillary Clinton as well. So it's like it's scary,
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: and I think when she runs again, she will have
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: to address that issue.
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: You feel like her in the governor's seat, Like, do
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: you think that that's like something she should even though
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: she says she doesn't want to do it, Like, do
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: you think that that's something she should have explored.
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: I think after I don't know when the deadline was,
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: but I think after that deadline that conversation should have
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: like ended because like people were having dialogue after Arac
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: Swallwell dropped out of the primary. They were having a
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: dialogue about if she's gonna jump in the deadline is done.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: There's she's not running for she that's done. So someone
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: Javier Baserra would literally have to let I don't know
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: what the process would be, but that that that that
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: is like not a thing. But should she have run
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: for governor? I want her to run for I never
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: even say this, but I want her to run for president.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: The only one of the only people that can actually
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: win in November twenty twenty eight in my opinion. So
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: so yeah, I don't think governor was for her, And
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: now she said it wasn't her calling. You can hear
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: that interview on the podcast.
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: I was going to ask you what your predictions are
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: for our next administration.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: I think we're going to see some people in a
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: suit try to talk about how bad of a nominee
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: she was and all that, and try to lecture the
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: black community and go down to South Carolina. And also,
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: like I was talking about, they're trying to replace us
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: in the Democratic Party. They're trying to make South Carolina
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: not the first in the nation anymore. They're trying to
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: make it. I think New Hampshire, Iowa, or Nevada, and
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: I think that's nonsense. We have Jim Clyburn is still
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: kicking it, we have Jamie Harrison, everyone down there in
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: the Democratic Party in South Carolina are still killing it.
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: Has trust in the media because journalists failed. The public
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: are because politicians or these technicol lords convinced people not
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: the trust facts.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, we're taught to like automatically, if something is
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: coming from mainstream media, we're taught to not believe it.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: So just because something comes from mainstream media does not
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: mean it's not true. That's why I encourage people to
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: do their own research because right now we're told mainstream
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: media equals false. And for whatever reason, I see everyone
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: try to fight the establishment. The establishment needs to be fought,
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: but everything's not the establishment. And so when we see
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: people say, hey, this is true, this isn't true, this
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: isn't true. Just google it, just google it is. It's
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: like Google's not gonna lie to you. Google's not controlled
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: by anyone. That's uh. Like, I think that's nonsense, and
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: that goes into misinformation.
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: Our podcast and Scream is replacing traditional news and if so,
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: is that good for democracy?
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: That is a very good thing. Shout out to all
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: the streamers, Shout out you guys had Hassan in here?
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: What was that about? That was crazy? Yeah, we had
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: y'all had Hassan. And then, like, I really do think
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: streamers are I think streamers and influencers and everything like
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: that are very played very different role than traditional news.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: Traditional news plays a role of informing and telling the
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: public everything that's going on, whether it's locally or nationally.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: But streamers have bring the influence. Streamers bring the voice
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: to the table. They want these politicians want them at
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: their events so bad, and so I think that is
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: different from what the role traditional newsplays. So I really
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: just say, no, what.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Do you think of the reason I ask you? You're fourteen?
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: I asked one of your aunties who shall remain nameless.
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: She's not in this room, but I asked her, so
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: what do you think of Son Piker? And her response
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: to me was I don't so what do you think?
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: That's okay? So okay, so guy, that's all right. So
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: Hassan Piker reacted to the DNC clip. I mean, he
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: was very nice about it, but Hassan Piker is, and
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: he's a really I've known him before politics. I knew
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: about him before politics. I don't say this criticize I
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: don't say this criticizing him. He needs to learn how
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: to speak to black people. He does, and I think
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: he is. I don't think he's a bad person, but
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: he is definitely not a moderate. He is a democratic socialist.
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: And I like Hassan Piker because of the influence he
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: brings to the table and any conversation with him is
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: an interesting conversation. I don't think he is a bad person,
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: but I think he needs to speak learn how to
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: speak to older people, in the within the party and
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: in black people.
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: How do you do that though, Like I feel like
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: if it's if it's not in you, it's just not
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: something you're able to do, cause I feel like you
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: should just speak to issues that everybody can relate to.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: But if I think that's different for politicians and streamers,
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: like I think that's I think it's really like I
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: think it's night and day politicians streamers. I think politicians
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: can can turn on a switch, but I think streamers
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: are our mitchmatch with the with the older establishment. Like
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: could you imagine, okay, Charlottanne, could you imagine Hassan Piker
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: having a conversation with a ballot caster, older black lady
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: in South Carolina? What would that look like.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: I know, I'm gonna tell you why. I think so.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: I think that it can happen if they keep.
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: It about the dinner table issues, because I feel like
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: most of us we just want more money in our
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: pocket and we want to feel safe but done. I
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: feel like somebody like Hassan he does speak to that
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: if you just keep it at the surface.
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: I believe.
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: But Charlamagne, a woman from the South who was like
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: every day really understanding people the dinner table issues, the
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: approach and a feeling is there's so much whatever.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: Do you want free health care?
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: No, it's about how to get there.
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but okay, understand, But but the end goal is what
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: he's always freaking up, like, you want free health care,
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: you want to be able to afford your kids education, you.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: Want more money in your pocket. Everybody's gonna say yes
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: to those things.
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: But when we talk about earlier, how people are dealing
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: with their everyday issue, so it doesn't seem that simple
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: for them. You need somebody that can kind of like
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: talk them through deal.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: That's what he saw they get there, That's what I'm saying,
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: Like Andy, Butscher is really good at speaking black people
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: South Carolina. And I think whoever our Democrats, our Democratic
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: nominee is not going to be a sung Piker. But
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: what I'm saying is, whoever our Democratic nominee is going
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: to be in twenty twenty eight needs to know how
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: to speak really well to Stack Caroline Indians, Like the
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: South Carolinians have been on my mind because Number one,
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: they're trying to replace them to be first nation in
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: the primary, but they're the backbone of the Number gude party.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: They represent the backbone of the party. So I just
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: try to imagine the ancis that tell me I don't
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: care about no podcast, let me tell you something and
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: try to educate me. And I just don't see how
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: that conversation looks. So I would have to see him outside.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm from Soacculina and I wanted.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: Something forgot You're such a New York or we don't
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: want to right.
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: But I'm just saying, like I don't know if people
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: care about the how as much as they care about
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: the will to want to. I think that's what people
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: have lost faith in regards to politicians, right, because you
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: tell me all these things you want to do for me.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I care about the how as
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: much as I care about are you.
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: Really going to do these things? Do you really want
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: to do these things that you're telling me you want
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: to do?
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah? I think if you communicate like okay, you can
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: say do you want free health care? But that's also
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: manipulation because that might be a Medicare for all solutions
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: that might drag that Auntie out of her health care
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: and have to go to this this weird socialist system. Now,
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: I think I am good at having debates with socialists
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: and having good conversation with socialists that are almost always
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: peaceful conversations and good conversations that come from a good
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: place on both sides. And when we talk about stuff
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: like health care, and it's it's always about how to
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: get there, because you can say health care for all,
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: and then it takes someone who really likes their health
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: care off of their health care, and that's where she
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: starts to get upset. And then when she gets upset
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: and she gets territorial about her health care that's when
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: they butt heads.
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: You don't like so you don't like democratic socialist, you
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: gotta give me trouble with Strala. I'm not gonna find
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: That's the only thing that confused me with a sign
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: because I said, if I did label myself anything, it
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: would be a social really democratic.
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, social.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: But democratic socialist. No, sounds like social democrat.
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: So Charlamagne. I know. I think everyone, especially the New Yorkers,
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: I think everyone likes their money, and so we have
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: to talk in a way that's like, we're not going
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: to come for your money, but we're gonna make life
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: better for everyone.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: We want to reform.
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: We want to reform capitalism. I think if you're wearing
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: shirts to say dismantle capitalism, not only is that destructive
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: to the system that we have here today, that that
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: that has gotten so many people opportunities, right, it's dangerous
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: to American society. And I'm interested to see how democratic
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: social socialism plays out around the world, because I mean,
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: we kind of see how it does. I meant to
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: say domestically, how it works out domestically around the country,
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: because we kind of see it in other countries. It
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: didn't work out very.
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: Well, Yeah, that's what I'm social democrat like you know,
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: I want to reform capitalism and I want the wealthy
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: to have to pay their fast share and taxes to
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: reduce economic and equality.
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I'm. I would say that I am a
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: social democrat like you said, not a moderate democrat, but whatever,
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: it's the left a moderate democrat. People deserve their money,
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: but we also need social democrat policies, not socialist democrat policies.
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: And they will label you moderating you all sorts of
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: sorts of names and threatn you for taking moderate positions
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: and endorsing moderate candidates. But that's the right you have. You.
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: I wanted to ask.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: I wanted to step outside of the things in I
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: just was questioning some of the things outside of politics
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: that that you're you know, what you think of. So
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: the Epstein files are big into paper, right, what are
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: your thoughts in the Epstein file?
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: I think, like I just just released them, and why
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: does it have to be this dialogue where everyone's like
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: I was, so I have been so disengaged from the
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: Epstein conversation because it's just been so diluted with nonsense.
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: Like I think as soon as I start saying memes
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: and stuff like that, just release it unredacted. But I
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: do think it raises a conversation of what will the
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: Democratic nominee do about the Epstein files in twenty twenty
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: eight because we have a totally redacted version that we
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: can take very little out of. I just think it's like,
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: we need we need to we need to go back
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: to what this is all about. And I think the
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: Epstein files, like release them asap and make a big
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: deal about it, but we're not doing it in the
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: right way at all.
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: You have a think about why they released before I
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: know why, why mutually assured destruction for both parties and
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: their allies.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: It's just like, if there's any way to talk about
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: that in a way that is not speculating, because when
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: I think of the Epstein files, I think of it
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: in the same way as I would any other criminal.
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: I'm just called Rico. It's Arica, right, It's it's like
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: I guess, and I think of it in any kind
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: of way as I would a Rico. It's just release it.
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: And I think this whole dialogue about how you release it,
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: when you release, just do it, And whoever the Democratic
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: nominee is going to have to do something about it
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: or else is gonna look really bad for our party.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: What did you think of the UFC freedom I didn't.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: I think, okay, I think a lot of stuff that
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: Trump does is so tacky and and that you stop
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: hearing about it. Like I heard virtually nothing about it.
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: It's supposed to be this big event, like have some
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: people Jake maybe if j was Jake Paul there, I
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: don't even know. I don't know you, Like, I don't
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: know anything about this event because it's so relevant, Like
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: he's starting to do so much that people are like, okay,
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: like whatever, Yeah, it's hacking. It is tacky, but.
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: That's good and bad though, because some of these things
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: we should be paying attention to, Like it is mind
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: boggling to me that it's not more people in the streets,
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: you know, protesting and calling holy hell over some of
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: the things, some of the things this guy's doing.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: But I don't want us to be amm That's exactly right.
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: I don't want us to be When I say that,
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: I say, like, I don't want us to be immune
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: to what he's doing. So when I say that's tacky,
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: I mean, like I don't want us to be like
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: we're kind of immune to his stunts. I don't want
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: us to become immune to his policy.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: Do you ever think of yourself what a white people
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: going to do about all this?
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: But what are what are white people going to do
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: about all of these craziness that's going on in their country?
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: People to do? That's what I think every.
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: Time I hear Donald Trump do something, because like, what
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: are white people going to do about it?
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: I think it's less white people, more of the white
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: people within our parties. So I think like our DNC
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: figures are like how dare you? And it's like kill,
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: can you do something? Can you fight? Like?
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Can you?
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: People?
• 33:06
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: You know? And I think it is an interesting dialogue.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: Also shout out to to like the TikTok creators that
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: that say this, like to toill everyone like that is
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: like standing up and saying, like what do you do?
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: I think telling us that, hey, we're gonna sit back.
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: I think the black community is saying we're gonna sit
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: back and watch this happening. I think that is an
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: interesting conversation to have. What are white people gonna do?
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: That's a really good question.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: White people gonna do?
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: About it like that, that is such an interesting question.
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: What are white people going to do about it?
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: Because that's white people.
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: You see what they're doing to us in the South
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: right with the redistrict and everything. They weakened our voting power, and.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: This is.
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: This country has always worked for them, right, even in
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: all of its flaws, It's always worked for them. It's
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: designed to work for the people that it worked for.
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: What happens when it's no longer designed to work for
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: the people designed to work?
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: I think they're going to be an uproar and they're
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: going to try to take over our party. Like we're
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: seeing so many angry white people act like Democrats and
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: voting in our primaries, and they do not share our interests.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: So I feel, like I said the South Carolina auntie
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: and white voter who lost their healthcare because of someone
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: who they voted for. The ideologies are mitch match, and
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: there's gonna be a major crack clash within the Democratic
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: Party about who gets to who gets to run it,
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: who gets to make the decision.
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: That's why I'm so weary of like people being like
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: like now people are like, oh my god, Donald Trump
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: is this horrible person, Like a major Marjorie Taylor Green,
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: but like, no, she's switching her tone right, And then
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: you see other politicians that are like, well, we have
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: to walk work across the table, and I get it,
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: but it's just like it confuses people because I feel
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: like there should be a line of like, who's really
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: for you, regardless of things are going good or bad,
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: and who's not.
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so Margins towitch her party. Not to say
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: that she's gonna become a Democrat or anything, because I
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: don't see that happening. But yes, she's independent, and I
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: don't honestly see her voting for a Democrat, Like could
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: you see her voting for Keisha Land's bottoms? I don't.
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: So when people like that are leaving the party, I'm
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: I'm saying, Ruth, who lost her health care because of
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: someone she voted for, is now trying to become a Democrat.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: And I think it's cool to vote Democrat. But learn
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: a little bit more about the ideology, learn about how
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: we protect how we want to raise the minimum wage
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: fifteen dollars an hour, something Republicans have blocked. No Republican
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: I have ever had a conversation with has been able
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: to provide a reasonable explanation for why that has happened.
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: No one has been able to provide a reasonable explanation
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: to how we have failed to do that, And they
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: talk about the philibuster and the philibuster. I also think
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: there is a conversation that needs to be happening inside
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: of our party about being effective. And I'm gonna whisper
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: something and I really hope he doesn't catch on after
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: hearing this. But most of these are executive orders, meaning
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: that a lot of these executive orders be stripped away
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: when we get a Democrat in White House. I don't
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: want him to remember that. And did start doing some.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: Congressionals a plantation.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: Free you've reminded me and Angela Rai when she said, well,
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: we did an instagram right lie recently, Like, I didn't
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: want to say some of this stuff because I don't
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: want the Republicans to start catching on because they're doing
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: a really bad job in effective job.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question just outside of that,
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: for parents listening right now, how would you advise they
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: get their kids into more of the politics and more
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: of the things that matter outside of anime, video games
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: and all the other.
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: Stuff by subscribeing to the now you Know podcasts hosted
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: by Noah.
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: Hey, we need them streams. So look, I will say,
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: get them on social media. There's nothing wrong with social media,
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: but watch them. Look, you're still a parent whether they're
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: on the phone or not.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: And somich misinformation though, especially with politics and social there's.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: So much misinformation, but we need to teach them to
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: fact check. Like, Okay, let's say you see something on
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: Instagram that says Joe Biden did this in this time,
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: or Bill Clinton did this in this time, or Obama
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: doesn't really care about this one. Google search will tell
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: you like what I'm saying is not sophisticated, Like you
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: can literally do your independent research about this. Just enough
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: people aren't doing it. So my advice to parents is
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: get your kids on social media, but watch them. Get
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: your kids on social media because it's the only way
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: a child can grow economically in this day and age,
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: and limiting them from social media, tell them to get
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: off the phone, et cetera, et cetera. I think that's
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: so honestly performative and just something that we've institutionalized within
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: our homes and the fact.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: That you know so many I feel like so many
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: parents are fatigued, Like politics is very stressful, very depressive,
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: give's a lot of anxiety.
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't be like you literally can't be tired
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: of voting. Like if I take someone to vote and
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: then there is a runoff, you can't say I don't
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: feel like it because you have to make it all
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: the way to the finish line. Because, like you said,
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: the white people are gonna go all the way to
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: the finish line in most cases. So we just have
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: to make sure that we're bringing ourselves to the finish line.
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: And this is for parents all across the country of
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: all kinds, is bring take your child on social media.
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: There is a reason why we're seeing a more progressive
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: generation because that they're on social media, and the ones
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: that you see that aren't quite progressive are saying stuff
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: that I can debunk in a minute, and that people
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: that do their research can debunk in a minute.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: If Democrats win this year, do you want them or
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: expect them to do kind of what Donald Trump did?
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: Put a desko on that stage.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: Everything that we wanted to sign off right then and there,
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: right because Donald Trump, he basically did a sign depends
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: and through the pens in the crowd. Would you love
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: to see that in twenty twenty eight?
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: Yes, And I think there is someone that will do
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: that that will go unnamed, that is a stunt man
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: that loves to do stuff like that. But I think
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: it's all yeah, I love going to California. Gaven Newsom
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: was not made come on now, No, But I do
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: like what he's doing.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: Tho I'm not gonna front. His stunts are very effective.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: Look, I just think there is ways to go about it.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: And I think, like I think, oh man, they're gonna
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: block me, Okay, I think I think it is a
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: way to say to do things effectively. So I don't
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: care if we do it silently. I don't care if
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: we do it with a pen. I don't care if
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: we have a sign the party.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: First day, first day when he started signing off for
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: the things that he promised.
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: We can have a knuck if you buck loud Atlanta
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: party and it will still just be the same effective
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: as if you silently do it. At the So, I think,
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: whoever we get in the White House in twenty twenty eight,
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: we need to have more conversations like the ones that
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: we I just had. My people to judge, interview, come
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: out conversations like that with people that could potentially be
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: the next president about what they're actually gonna do. But
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: I think the loud stuff is like it's performed with
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: like Trump did not do anything more special policy wise,
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: louder than silently. In fact, I think you got more
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: done silently than how he did it.
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: Who have you had on the night you know podcast
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: you just said, people to judge delay this? I know
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: Vice President Kamala Harris has been on it. Who else
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: has been on?
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: So we got Kamala Harris people to judge. We actually
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: surprising conversation with Macy Gray. Oh we had And it's
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: like the thing about me is that I don't just
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: do the politics stuff, like I like the entertainment, pop
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: culture scene. We had me at Thornton. We had people
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: like like, for example, it's like really diverse list of
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: guests Karen Bass to talk about misinformation regarding the Los
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: Angeles wildfires. For some reason, they for the first time ever,
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: we blamed the mayor for a natural disaster. We've had
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: people like that and just people like from pop culture
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: and politics combined and and merging them and people in
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: Georgia and stuff in the mid Term series. It's going
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: to be a a good one.
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• 40:19
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• 40:20
  Speaker 1: Guy is the limit for you?
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: What you're about to say?
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: What's your end goal in politics?
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah? I want to see people and it doesn't even
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: have to have my name on it. I just want
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: to see people spreading the right information. Like the misinformation
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: cycle that we're seeing on Instagram is scary, and the
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: things that we're seeing that people like Angel or I
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: have combatted and things like that. I see. The end
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: goal for me is making sure that policy gets done
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: and the right people are getting are getting For example,
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: like I think like stuff that are going on with
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: the Democratic Party, some of that stuff is not the
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: victory of the d NC people, Like a lot of
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: that is the organizers down in South Carolina and places
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: like that that really do this work. So I just
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: want the right eight people to get access to say
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: that they have done certain things, and then making sure
• 41:05
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• 41:07
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