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Chuck & Buck 10-16 Hour 3: It's all about the Mariners! ABCs and Fisch has work to do! · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: I need Luis Castillo to go out there like he's
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Speaker 1: the best freaking picture, walk in the face of the
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Speaker 1: freaking earth and shove it right up their knuck asses tonight.
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Speaker 2: That's what I need.
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Speaker 1: Chuck it back in the Morning's here on this Thursday,
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Speaker 1: Chuck Powell, former Marin Or, Bucky Jacobs and Ashley Ryan
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Speaker 1: with you. We roll into our eight o'clock hour. Normally
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Speaker 1: this is where we do a twelve man round table,
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Speaker 1: but of course with the American League Championship Series gripping
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Speaker 1: the city, we are pushing that off a little bit.
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Speaker 1: We do have Monday night football coverage for you with
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Speaker 1: Hugh and Coach and Greg coming up on Monday, and
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Speaker 1: then of course reaction on Tuesday. So it's just the
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Speaker 1: schedule a little bit. And oh, by the way, our
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Speaker 1: baseball team's two wins away potentially from its first ever
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Speaker 1: World Series appearance, so it seems to be on people's
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Speaker 1: minds a little bit, just a little bit.
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Speaker 2: Oh that's going on right now? It is, Bucky, Yeah, yeah, yeah, interesting.
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Speaker 1: I probably should pay attention to Probably should have looped
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Speaker 1: you in on the company emails.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess I should look at those. Usually there's
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Speaker 2: it's nothing but worthless information. But I did not know
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Speaker 2: there was playoffs going on.
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Speaker 1: Number one, I totally get you just ignoring email. Totally
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Speaker 1: get that. But number two, I really think you should
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Speaker 1: be aware of this stuff that's going on the baseball
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Speaker 1: team and the whatnot. You try to plug myself in.
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Speaker 1: I think you'd enjoy it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, and also I think you used to play baseball,
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Speaker 3: didn't you.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, a long time ago.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah you might. Really you might find it fun.
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Speaker 1: You might get into it and get check out of it.
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Speaker 1: Do you play again tonight tonight? Yeah, I'll give her
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Speaker 1: a shot. Then. Yeah, I'd like for you to do.
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Speaker 1: Because you're co hosting with me on the post game show.
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Speaker 1: It would be nice if you had like a foundation
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Speaker 1: of knowledge to work all.
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Speaker 2: All right, Well, then I'll watch for that reason.
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Speaker 3: I thought of that part.
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Speaker 1: will provide it again for you this evening. The first
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Speaker 1: pitch of the game is five thirty eight Luis Castillo,
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Speaker 1: who better shop it? Taking on Max Scherzer in tonight's
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Speaker 1: Game four of the American League Championship Series. But a
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Speaker 1: lot of you just waking up this morning, just joining
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Speaker 1: us here at eight o'clock, and certainly last night's game
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Speaker 1: has has a lot to discuss about. It. A loss
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Speaker 1: thirteen to four to the Toronto Blue Jays last night.
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Speaker 1: So after taking two games in Toronto, the Blue Jays
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Speaker 1: come to Seattle and we're rather rude house guests. They
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Speaker 1: rattled off at one point point twelve consecutive runs and
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Speaker 1: ran away with game number three. It just didn't feel
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Speaker 1: that way early on. I mean number one, Toronto tried
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Speaker 1: to invade Team Mobile like they do so successfully during
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Speaker 1: the regular season every year. It didn't happen. Mariner fans
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Speaker 1: were like, okay, no during the regulars, whatever, you're not
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Speaker 1: doing it now. So it was just all Mariner fans
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Speaker 1: last night. I mean, yeah, the Blue Jay's fans made
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Speaker 1: their way in, but they were silent, even with a
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Speaker 1: thirteen to four win. It was still loud ass Mariner
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Speaker 1: fans taken up every seat last night. So that was
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Speaker 1: great to see that, to hear that, to feel that,
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Speaker 1: to taste that. And then Julio Rodriguez, it's a two
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Speaker 1: run homer in the first inning and just unloaded on
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Speaker 1: a pitch from Shane Bieber, and you thought, man, we
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Speaker 1: really are this is gonna be three Oh, isn't it.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it just felt like you had all the
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Speaker 1: momentum in the world. And then that came crashing down
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Speaker 1: In the third inning, Toronto irerupted for five runs against
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Speaker 1: George Kirby. He really Bucky had shown, knowing any indication
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Speaker 1: that that was coming, hadn't really allowed a hard hit
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Speaker 1: ball in the first two innings. He put two zeros up.
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Speaker 1: We've seen him perform so excellently in the playoffs whenever
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Speaker 1: he's made it, whenever he's made an appearance. And then
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Speaker 1: when Toronto got to him, man did they get to him.
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Speaker 1: There wasn't anything cheap about those hits in the third inning.
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Speaker 1: I mean, they rocked George Kirby, and George, to his
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Speaker 1: own admission, has nobody else to blame but himself.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean it was surprising, and it happened fast.
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Speaker 2: I mean, you're talking about the bottom of the arder,
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Speaker 2: the eight nine guys, right, and he makes a good
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Speaker 2: pitch to Clement. I mean it was off the plate
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Speaker 2: in and he kind of muscles it down for a double. Okay, fine,
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Speaker 2: no big deal, leadoff double. You can pitch around that.
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Speaker 2: You got a two zero lead. And then but it's
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Speaker 2: two pitches later, bang, a guy who doesn't have very
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Speaker 2: many home runs, not a power guy. Jimenez is not
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Speaker 2: a power guy, but he absolutely smokes one. Now you're tied,
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Speaker 2: and you're like, okay, all right, well new vaulgame. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: I wasn't expecting us to just chip away or just
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Speaker 2: you know, tack on and win eight to zero. I
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Speaker 2: was not expecting that. And then that wouldn't be interesting.
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Speaker 2: So of course they're not going to do that. And
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Speaker 2: then he gets an out and then it's single double.
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Speaker 2: Now all of a sudden, that's when he starts making
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Speaker 2: the mistakes. To me, it was the Jimenez ball was
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Speaker 2: a mistake. He was trying to go up and in
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Speaker 2: there he left it down and in and he didn't
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Speaker 2: have a very big nitro zone. But George found it,
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Speaker 2: and then he starts making mistakes to Luke's and and
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Speaker 2: and Vlad and and all of a sudden, next thing,
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Speaker 2: you know, you get into that situation where it looked
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Speaker 2: like he maybe he was going to get off the hook.
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Speaker 2: He had bases loaded, and he gets that ground ball.
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Speaker 2: That's the tough part, getting out the one out bases
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Speaker 2: loaded jam. But now a pass ball or it's a
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Speaker 2: wild pitch because he spikes it, but cal tries backhanding
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Speaker 2: and that one gets by him a little bit and
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Speaker 2: then boom, and pitches later, another ball laced off the wall,
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Speaker 2: and next thing you know, it's five to two. So
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Speaker 2: it happened quick. And yet so I mean, I don't
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Speaker 2: he didn't look horrible. He just wasn't sharp.
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Speaker 1: Man. Well, he certainly looked fine, like you were buckled
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Speaker 1: in for all right, good luck coming back two. Nothing
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Speaker 1: deficiting if George is on his game, and it kind
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Speaker 1: of felt like he was on his game. And then man,
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Speaker 1: that's the that's sort of the knock on George is
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Speaker 1: that a little bit of rain soaks him and sometimes
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Speaker 1: in George's head, if I made the pitch that I
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Speaker 1: wanted to execute, you should not get a hit. That
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Speaker 1: should not.
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Speaker 3: Happen, not the way is this supposed to work.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I can't strand people that get lucky,
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Speaker 1: and so George has a little bit of that in him.
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Speaker 1: So I don't know if that affected him or not.
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Speaker 1: That maybe he thought I made the right pitch to
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Speaker 1: Clement and then lost a little bit of focus to
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Speaker 1: Ajmenez and next thing you know, you're tied, and then
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Speaker 1: it looked like he might get out of it. And
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Speaker 1: then Cal really did botch the wild pitch. I mean,
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Speaker 1: it goes as a wild pitch, but Cal stops that
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Speaker 1: ninety nine times out of maybe nine hundred and ninety
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Speaker 1: nine times out of a thousand. Why he tried to
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Speaker 1: backhand that that's not that's not my Cal Rawley, you know,
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Speaker 1: And yet so I don't know of that then got
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Speaker 1: George distracted, But he really doesn't have anybody to blame
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Speaker 1: him it himself. He was off, he was missing his spots,
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Speaker 1: and the Blue Jays just absolutely tattooed him. And then
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Speaker 1: from that point forward, you know, I know a lot
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Speaker 1: of people were like, get him out of the game.
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Speaker 1: Really put Dan Wilson in a really difficult situation because
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Speaker 1: It happened so quickly and so unexpectedly that you're sitting
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Speaker 1: there thinking to yourself, well, we do have a two
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Speaker 1: game cushion here, and we're down three, and it's the
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Speaker 1: third inning. It's not Spire time, it's not Brash time,
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Speaker 1: it's not Moonyo's time. Certainly, it's not even Bizardo time.
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Speaker 1: Right here, down three in the bottom of the third.
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Speaker 1: I realized you went Bizardo in the fourth inning in Toronto,
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Speaker 1: but that was you know, that was tied at that point.
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Speaker 1: But down three, and so you're gonna go to your
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Speaker 1: second group of relievers. And I just think that Dan
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Speaker 1: Wilson at that time said, is George Kirby not still
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Speaker 1: our best opportunity if down three, to keep it down three,
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Speaker 1: then to go to a Carlos Vargas here, or to
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Speaker 1: a Caleb Ferguson here, or a Luke Jackson here, So
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Speaker 1: I think, or to you know, really throw a curveball
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Speaker 1: and put Brian Wu into the game. I think that
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Speaker 1: the decision was just made that you know that George
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Speaker 1: created this problem and he might be our best chance
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Speaker 1: of getting out of it. And then you give up
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Speaker 1: solo home runs and the fourth and the fifth, and
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Speaker 1: then at that point it's like, all right, spire Munos Brash,
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Speaker 1: you can just leave the park. Yeah, you know, because
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Speaker 1: we're going to get through this without any of you,
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Speaker 1: so that we have all of you for Games four
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Speaker 1: and Games five. So I think it snuck up on
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Speaker 1: him quickly, and then at that point, I think he
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Speaker 1: just had more faith that George could get the job
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Speaker 1: done to keep it five to two than to turn
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Speaker 1: things over in the fourth inning to Carlos Vargas or
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Speaker 1: Caleb Ferguson. I think that's the bottom line. So I
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Speaker 1: don't think he made a mistake. And I know a
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Speaker 1: lot of people are angry and want to point the
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Speaker 1: finger and thought he mismanaged it and everything else, But
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Speaker 1: I don't think Dan made a mistake. I think he
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Speaker 1: was just trying to make the best out of a
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Speaker 1: situation that got out of control quickly.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's snowballed quick And I'm with you on
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Speaker 2: I think that it was probably the right choice, even
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Speaker 2: though it looks horrible. It looks like it got worse
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Speaker 2: and really got out of control.
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Speaker 1: I agree.
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Speaker 2: I think five to two, you're still in the ballgame,
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Speaker 2: But that doesn't mean I'm necessarily wanting to blow my
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Speaker 2: best shoot my best bullets. Right, you're still down three.
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Speaker 2: You don't no for sure if you're going to even
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Speaker 2: be able to tie the ball game up or so
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Speaker 2: you want to keep it there, And so what's my
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Speaker 2: best choice without blowing you know, the bizardo and brash
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Speaker 2: and just like, you're not going to do that when
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Speaker 2: you're losing five to two early in the ballgame, especially
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Speaker 2: when I think that they had they believed that he
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Speaker 2: could get it done. And he gives up that double
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Speaker 2: after it just kind of boom. Then there's some of
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Speaker 2: the water starts flooding over, and then he gets the
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Speaker 2: next guy out, and then he comes back out the
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Speaker 2: next inning and strikes out the first two guys before
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Speaker 2: getting ambushed by George the Hated Springer for a home
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Speaker 2: run to make it sixty two. Now six to two,
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Speaker 2: not a drastic difference from five to two, and then
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Speaker 2: he gets the next guy out, and then the next
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Speaker 2: inning he basically has Lad come up and ambushes him
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Speaker 2: first pitch again for another homer. Now it's seven too
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Speaker 2: So anybody that's sitting there saying, whoa, he just let
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Speaker 2: it go way too long it's like, but he was
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Speaker 2: getting outs in between there, and he made mistakes to
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Speaker 2: good hitters and guys that are really hot. So I'm
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Speaker 2: fine with it, and I do think that it's not
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Speaker 2: a well, we'll just punt this game. The game started
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Speaker 2: getting into where now we're not we're we are kind
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Speaker 2: of punting.
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Speaker 1: They got to the point, Oh, you're playing the percentages.
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Speaker 1: That's what all managerial decisions are. You're playing the percentages.
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Speaker 1: What percentage chance do we have of coming back? And
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Speaker 1: is it worth using guys that probably will be more
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Speaker 1: beneficial in games four and five to us than having
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Speaker 1: to try to save this game already down by three
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Speaker 1: or down by four or down by five. Those were
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Speaker 1: the decisions that went into it. So, I mean, you
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Speaker 1: could have brought Vargas in I suppose to start the
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Speaker 1: fourth inning. I don't know if that would have saved
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Speaker 1: the day. I don't think that it would have. I
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Speaker 1: think that, Like I said, I don't think that I
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Speaker 1: have a problem with the decisions that were made last night.
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Speaker 2: No, under circumstances. Ultimately, you came into the series saying, okay,
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Speaker 2: we got to win four out of seven, right, and
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Speaker 2: then you win two and you'll get to go home
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Speaker 2: saying we just have to win two out of five
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Speaker 2: five remaining games. We just have to win two more
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Speaker 2: and then you drop one and yeah to a good team.
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Speaker 2: And so it's understandable that you're out of three games,
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Speaker 2: you're gonna lose one of these bad boys, but it's
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Speaker 2: still you find yourself, we got to win two out
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Speaker 2: of four games. They have to win three out of
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Speaker 2: four games. That is still a nice advantage that you've
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Speaker 2: granted yourself by going and went into it their place,
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Speaker 2: But none of that counts for today's zero zeros will
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Speaker 2: get her done well.
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Speaker 4: And yeah, that's the thing too, is I think so
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Speaker 4: many people are like, well, now that we've lost a game,
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Speaker 4: you know, then you start to kind of whar your panic.
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Speaker 4: But if you looked at this series realistically, you should
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Speaker 4: have never thought that the Mariners were just going to
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Speaker 4: steamroll the Blue Jays.
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Speaker 3: That offense, if you.
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Speaker 4: Watched any of the Alds their game, their games with
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Speaker 4: New York, that offense is potent. And we knew that
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Speaker 4: it wasn't going to just stay quiet. We weren't going
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Speaker 4: to just shut them down the entire series. You can't
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Speaker 4: do that. They're too good.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're good. They're a good team. Uh, they're a
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Speaker 1: good team, and they can certainly do that to you,
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Speaker 1: as they showed the Yankees, and they there won't anything
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Speaker 1: cheap about that. I mean, they had five home runs
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Speaker 1: last night for goodness sake. And Vladimir Guerrero, we didn't
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Speaker 1: get him out all evening and we know how dangerous
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Speaker 1: he is, and he should have had a triple. Apparently
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Speaker 1: the he said that the third base coach told him
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Speaker 1: not to come. Nobody's ever had a cycle.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and the history of that one person has.
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Speaker 1: No not in the history of the Illeague championship series.
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Speaker 3: Oh, I thought it was one person.
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Speaker 1: Maybe that was one person in playoff history, brock Holt,
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Speaker 1: But nobody has ever done it in a league championship series. Ten.
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Speaker 1: I think you'd probably go for that, lad, But you know,
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Speaker 1: if you're gonna be lazy, yeah, I suppose you can
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Speaker 1: just settle with two doubles, a homer, a walk, and
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Speaker 1: a single. Yeah, if you're that type, if you're the
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Speaker 1: type that settles for stuff.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe he just wanted to piss Aaron Goldsmith off Settler.
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Speaker 2: It's like, I don't want I know, they're play by
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Speaker 2: play guy really loves these. I'm not going to give
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Speaker 2: him anything to be pumped about.
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Speaker 1: Goldsmith like this will be this whole evening will be
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Speaker 1: saved if I can just watch that hit a cycle.
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Speaker 2: So why aren'd you going?
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Speaker 1: And if somehow Luke Jackson could throw an immaculate inning
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Speaker 1: before this nine game nine, Ron definit did not. He
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Speaker 1: didn't know he did not, all right, So does it
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Speaker 1: affect the way that Dan Wilson's now going to implement
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Speaker 1: George Kirby going forward? I think that if you have
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Speaker 1: four starters, just four starters that you trust, then you
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Speaker 1: have no problem bringing back George Kirby. I mean, they
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Speaker 1: obviously have a lot of faith in the dude. They
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Speaker 1: mapped it out so that he would theoretically pitch game
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Speaker 1: number seven in this series. They mapped it out so
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Speaker 1: he started the divisional round and that he pitched against
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Speaker 1: Schooble in game number five if it came to it.
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Speaker 1: So they obviously have an immense amount of trust in
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Speaker 1: George Kirby at this time of the year. But that's
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Speaker 1: with four starters. We might have five starters now now
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Speaker 1: that Bryce Miller is a give me the ball, let
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Speaker 1: me show you what I can do? Do you perhaps
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Speaker 1: adjust that going forward? Considering all the elements that Bryce
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Speaker 1: Miller has stepped up, that Brian Wu says he's healthy
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Speaker 1: and ready to go, and that George is coming off
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Speaker 1: a game in which Toronto tattooed him. Does that change
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Speaker 1: the way that you structure the rest of this rotation?
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Speaker 1: We know Castillo's going tonight, nothing's going to change that
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Speaker 1: and that. But by game five it was WU tentatively
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Speaker 1: and now they're talking about using him in the bullpen potentially.
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Speaker 1: But does it change now because of the three elements
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Speaker 1: I discussed, would you map it out differently the rest
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Speaker 1: of the way.
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Speaker 2: I mean, part of me would think about it. At
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Speaker 2: the same time, I'm not doubting if I need, if
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Speaker 2: I need to go to George Kirby in game seven. Okay, Now,
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Speaker 2: if we're gonna think, okay, hypothetically Wu's ready to rock
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Speaker 2: and roll at some point game five, game six. Whenever
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Speaker 2: you think that, okay, then maybe you don't have to.
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Speaker 2: I'll just say this, It's a good conversation to have,
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Speaker 2: and they're having them. Dan Wilson and Woodworth and the
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Speaker 2: Jerry and just are having these conversations. But you're not
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Speaker 2: writing anything in penn. You're writing Louis Castillo and Penn,
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Speaker 2: and that's it. You don't you got an idea, You've
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Speaker 2: written johned a bunch of different stuff down. Part of
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Speaker 2: me is actually thinking the idea of Wu coming in
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Speaker 2: out of the bullpen is probably going to be the
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Speaker 2: way we're going to see him next.
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Speaker 1: And if that's the.
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Speaker 2: Case, then it's it's Castillo, and then it's Miller, and
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Speaker 2: then it's Logan, and if you need it, then it's George. Yes,
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Speaker 2: that's the way that I think they right now have
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Speaker 2: everything Louis Castill and pen everything else in pencil, because
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Speaker 2: you don't know when and where you're going to need
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Speaker 2: to use, whether it's Brian Wu or you might move
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Speaker 2: somebody up. You might say, no, I'm going Logan in
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Speaker 2: game five, and I'll move Bryce Miller to game six
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Speaker 2: if I have to. You're because you're not messing with
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Speaker 2: a whole bunch of rest. You're gonna have some days off.
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Speaker 2: You've had days off in between these the traveling from
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Speaker 2: Toronto to here. So yes, I'm I'm. I probably would
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Speaker 2: have a big whiteboard with all a bunch of arrows
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Speaker 2: drawn all over the place, and yet none of it
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Speaker 2: other than today, is am I real certain about how
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna do it?
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Speaker 1: Yeah? Like John Nash, you know, beautiful mind the thing
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Speaker 1: all sorts of theorem and goodwill hunting kind of math
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Speaker 1: problems up on the board, dance trying to figure it out.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm with you, and believe me. They go
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Speaker 1: beyond that. They go through all the scenarios certainly of hey,
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Speaker 1: if this happens in this situation, who do we bring
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Speaker 1: in here? So they map all of that out. But sometimes,
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Speaker 1: like last night, something happens that you just didn't see
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Speaker 1: in your formulas. You just didn't introduce. Hey, in the
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Speaker 1: third George Kirby's gonna give up about one thousand line drives.
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Speaker 1: It's just something that you don't factor in. But it
17:58
Speaker 1: does change the equation because now now all of a sudden,
18:00
Speaker 1: you're like, we could theoretically avoid the possibility that the
18:05
Speaker 1: Blue Jays have a book on George Kirby, and we
18:10
Speaker 1: could avoid that by just if we have faith and
18:13
Speaker 1: Wu Castillo, Wu Miller Gilbert for game number seven. And
18:18
Speaker 1: of course what we're hoping for is that we don't
18:21
Speaker 1: even play a game step. Yeah, that we've wrapped it
18:23
Speaker 1: up long before. Then I'll take game five Friday night.
18:26
Speaker 1: I'll go ahead and take that as a you know,
18:29
Speaker 1: if we're gonna.
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Speaker 3: Register wishes, put a bow on it.
18:32
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's just wrap it up and then then we'll
18:35
Speaker 1: start having the conversation about who starts game number one
18:38
Speaker 1: of the next round.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you for calling it the next round, the.
18:40
Speaker 1: Next round of the tournament, all right, coming up next,
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Speaker 1: ABC's of them Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.
18:48
Speaker 1: It's art and social media, because that's kind of what
18:50
Speaker 1: social media is that you want. They want you to
18:52
Speaker 1: take pictures and send them out. So I'm trying to
18:54
Speaker 1: do my best yesterday, and so I'm trying to take
18:56
Speaker 1: a photo of some scene outside the ballpark yesterday as
19:00
Speaker 1: I get to the stadium four hours early, for goodness sake,
19:03
Speaker 1: and I'm trying to size up my photo, and I'm
19:06
Speaker 1: not good at taking pictures. And there's three people that
19:09
Speaker 1: I start walking into the frame and I'm my good lord,
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Speaker 1: get out.
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Speaker 2: Of the way.
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Speaker 3: I'm trying to take a picture.
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Speaker 1: And I take down my phone and it's Tim Kirkchin,
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Speaker 1: Karl Ravich and Edward o Perez.
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Speaker 2: Oh just snap that one.
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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, maybe not a bad far.
19:26
Speaker 1: Might I might have and didn't even realize it. You
19:32
Speaker 1: never know what you're gonna see him baseball. I'm just
19:34
Speaker 1: walking out of the stadium. There's this guy trying to
19:36
Speaker 1: take a picture of something entirely different. He suddenly's taking
19:39
Speaker 1: photos of me and Carl and his hair piece.
19:43
Speaker 2: He to get the hell out of the way.
19:45
Speaker 1: I've got yelled after.
19:47
Speaker 2: Just walk into the ballpark. That's Tim for you.
19:50
Speaker 1: That's Kirkchon all right. ABC's the DMS we left off
19:53
Speaker 1: of the letter D yesterday. Das for dingers. All dingers
19:57
Speaker 1: have different kind of values to them, There's no question
20:00
Speaker 1: about it. Jim in Az his dinger had a pretty
20:03
Speaker 1: good value to it yesterday. Turns out Julio's not so much.
20:07
Speaker 1: But I'm wondering the value that we could potentially place
20:12
Speaker 1: on what seemed like a meaningful moment in a thirteen
20:15
Speaker 1: to four blowout. Yesterday, Randy rose Arena finally hit a
20:19
Speaker 1: home run. It's his first and one hundred and seven
20:22
Speaker 1: at bats. It's been a long time since Randy has
20:26
Speaker 1: felt that groove, that swing to put on a baseball
20:30
Speaker 1: where it leaves the yard. I mean, he hit twenty
20:32
Speaker 1: seven of them during the course of the season, looked
20:34
Speaker 1: like he was well on his way to a thirty
20:36
Speaker 1: thirty season, and he ends up not hitting another home
20:40
Speaker 1: run for a month and it's extended into the playoffs.
20:44
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a guy that has authored one
20:46
Speaker 1: of the greatest postseasons in the history of baseball, that
20:49
Speaker 1: he is just I mean, he's had a couple walks
20:51
Speaker 1: here and a hit by pitch and some stolen bases,
20:54
Speaker 1: and he's made a nice defensive grab in Toronto, but
20:57
Speaker 1: he's not doing damage. Does what kind of value do
21:01
Speaker 1: you place on a guy that's accustomed to doing damage
21:05
Speaker 1: with his bat hasn't done it for a while, And
21:08
Speaker 1: even if it was a meaningless home run late in
21:11
Speaker 1: the game, does that potentially remind Randy or Rose Arena
21:15
Speaker 1: in his mechanics of Oh, that's how it's done. Okay,
21:19
Speaker 1: don't worry, guys, I got it now.
21:21
Speaker 2: It can It doesn't guarantee it, and I hope it does,
21:27
Speaker 2: because yeah, I mean, you can go from scuffling, and
21:31
Speaker 2: he has been scuffling. He hasn't been contributing as much
21:34
Speaker 2: as we would like. Now he's had some moments that
21:37
Speaker 2: have been helpful in some of these wins. Played eight
21:40
Speaker 2: games and you've won more than you've lost, and so
21:42
Speaker 2: you know, he's gotten some hit by pitches or some
21:44
Speaker 2: walks and some decent abs and stole some bags and
21:47
Speaker 2: scored some runs, but he hasn't done the damage. And
21:50
Speaker 2: a lot of times it does take for sometimes guys
21:54
Speaker 2: that aren't supposed to hit for power. JP Crawford in particular,
21:57
Speaker 2: he'll hit one out and you've said it before, or like,
22:01
Speaker 2: oh no, now he's going to try to do that again.
22:03
Speaker 1: I told the guy in Detroit, the beat writer sitting
22:06
Speaker 1: next to me, I said, well, if you're rooting for
22:08
Speaker 1: the Tigers to win this game, don't worry about JP
22:11
Speaker 1: Crawford anymore. He's done for the playoffs. There's times and
22:15
Speaker 1: he will you'll get into a little bit of shit.
22:17
Speaker 1: A home run and now he's a home run.
22:18
Speaker 2: I like doing that. Yeah, God, I like doing it too.
22:22
Speaker 2: But certain guys should try and certain guys shouldn't. I
22:24
Speaker 2: think Randy's kind of a he's a mixture, right. He's
22:27
Speaker 2: a guy that can hit, but he's a guy that
22:29
Speaker 2: has some serious pop too. And you put him the
22:31
Speaker 2: lineup because you want him to do damage, but you
22:33
Speaker 2: also want him to be a catalyst for the guys
22:36
Speaker 2: behind him, and he hasn't been doing that part, or
22:39
Speaker 2: the doing damage part, very well. So yeah, it can.
22:42
Speaker 2: It can turn into you take a swing and you're like, ooh,
22:45
Speaker 2: that's because that's basically what he went to sleep with
22:47
Speaker 2: was that swing. It was a good pitch to hit.
22:50
Speaker 2: He had taken one in the exact same spot earlier
22:52
Speaker 2: in the bat. He took strike one right down the middle,
22:55
Speaker 2: took strike two in that up and in spot a
22:58
Speaker 2: little bit, and then later on in the ab got
23:00
Speaker 2: that same pitch and capitalized on it. It can be
23:03
Speaker 2: a Okay, that felt right. I get with that. Obviously
23:06
Speaker 2: it felt right. But if it clicks, then yeah, you
23:08
Speaker 2: could see you could see a little bit of a turnaround.
23:10
Speaker 2: That would be hugely important.
23:13
Speaker 1: Let's have that. Yeah, do you like the way I
23:15
Speaker 1: pronounced dingers? Dingers? Not really? You just don't mess with
23:20
Speaker 1: home run glossary terms around this, you know, Ashley, you
23:24
Speaker 1: better say it the right way.
23:25
Speaker 2: You better should dingers And made immediately go to like, oh,
23:28
Speaker 2: Dingers like Dingler.
23:29
Speaker 4: That's what I did think up to is Dylan Dingler first,
23:33
Speaker 4: but then I realized what you were doing, and I
23:34
Speaker 4: thought it was.
23:37
Speaker 1: Yes, he is for e Walk. I realized that h
23:43
Speaker 1: Vladimir Guerrero Junior is the most intimidating presence in the
23:47
Speaker 1: Toronto Blue Jays lineup. But man, that e Walk that
23:50
Speaker 1: they put it catcher, he is just he is just
23:55
Speaker 1: he's a rough customer. I mean, he worries me as
23:58
Speaker 1: much as Vladimir Guerrero Junior in a big moment. Yeah,
24:01
Speaker 1: he just knows how to hit. He just gets the
24:03
Speaker 1: back to the ball. He's he's like Altuve but fatter. Yeah,
24:07
Speaker 1: like a lot fatter.
24:08
Speaker 3: It's like two all two bays next to each other.
24:11
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like two A al three ve maybe al
24:15
Speaker 2: four A. Uh yeah, he does. He worries me too.
24:18
Speaker 1: Him.
24:18
Speaker 2: He's and he hasn't been hitting most of this postseason.
24:21
Speaker 2: And yet there was an ab in one of the
24:24
Speaker 2: games in Toronto where he went the other way, line
24:26
Speaker 2: drive the other way, and I'm like, oh, because he's
24:29
Speaker 2: he understands the the length through the zone and that's
24:33
Speaker 2: why he is as good of a hitter as he is.
24:36
Speaker 2: He's not just a pole guy, but he also is
24:38
Speaker 2: swinging to do damage on a regular basis, and he
24:40
Speaker 2: gets that chubby Ewok body behind it and hit it out.
24:43
Speaker 3: Also, I feel like the Ewoks are way cuter. That's
24:46
Speaker 3: kind of an insult. Oh they're adorable. Yeah, Wicked is
24:50
Speaker 3: the cutest Ewok of all time.
24:51
Speaker 1: I know I'm going to get a bunch of hate
24:52
Speaker 1: mail from Ewoks.
24:53
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Wicked because he does have a big.
24:57
Speaker 1: I'm sorry e Walk community.
24:58
Speaker 2: And for the record, no one on my pool league
25:00
Speaker 2: team has a worse physique than that.
25:05
Speaker 1: I think Ryan Heally had some really gross assumptions. I
25:09
Speaker 1: don't really know.
25:10
Speaker 2: He thinks, ah, my friends are chubby like.
25:12
Speaker 3: Well, to be fair, it was at a pool league,
25:15
Speaker 3: so it's what you don't really think.
25:17
Speaker 4: Of, like athletic prowess at the bar plain pool you don't.
25:21
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that was the point, Yeah, exactly.
25:23
Speaker 1: I still think that porthouse number one before.
25:27
Speaker 4: It's not like he was just like, oh, do you
25:29
Speaker 4: think Bucky's friends are all fat?
25:31
Speaker 1: What it is? I wasn't exactly setting a high bar
25:34
Speaker 1: for their physiques, yeah, exactly comparing them, and he was
25:37
Speaker 1: setting a very low bar and he thought that's beneath that. Yeah,
25:41
Speaker 1: I don't appreciate. I love how your rallied did. The
25:43
Speaker 1: defense of your buddies really means a lot to them.
25:47
Speaker 1: Deserve they appreciated it. And uh, finally for fresh, I mean,
25:52
Speaker 1: all this consternation about Brian Wu, will he be right
25:56
Speaker 1: once this number is called? I mean, is there a
25:58
Speaker 1: chance that cup weeks off and little wear and tear
26:02
Speaker 1: and the peck's perfectly fine, and he comes out fresher
26:05
Speaker 1: than ever when he does pitch again, Oh more fresher
26:08
Speaker 1: than we've seen him. I'll tell you this about Brian Wu.
26:11
Speaker 1: He is very self aware of like how the whole
26:14
Speaker 1: machine works, that is Brian Wu. I mean, remember all
26:18
Speaker 1: last year. I mean he'd take himself out of games.
26:20
Speaker 1: I guess something's not right, something not right. I mean
26:23
Speaker 1: he never went He never really got to the point
26:27
Speaker 1: like he was injured for any really amount of time
26:29
Speaker 1: last year, But he was aware enough of when his
26:32
Speaker 1: body was out of sync that to avoid serious injury.
26:37
Speaker 1: I think I need to shut this downskip. So is
26:39
Speaker 1: there a chance that maybe this guy just knows his
26:42
Speaker 1: body really well. And if he's telling us I'm ready
26:45
Speaker 1: to go, We're gonna see the freshest Brian wu we've
26:47
Speaker 1: seen since the All Star Game.
26:48
Speaker 2: There's a possibility. I don't know, and I wish I did.
26:51
Speaker 2: I wish that, you know, they would just be one
26:53
Speaker 2: hundred percent truthful and that they kind of can't and
26:56
Speaker 2: don't necessarily want to, because you're not gonna say, oh,
26:58
Speaker 2: I feel better than I've ever felt, and you're obviously
27:01
Speaker 2: then you're also not going to be like, I'm not
27:02
Speaker 2: one hundred percent, but I'm ready to rock and roll.
27:05
Speaker 2: I don't one really prescribe to the idea of rust
27:08
Speaker 2: and I don't. I just don't because I've I've done
27:12
Speaker 2: it myself. I've missed months of time and then been
27:15
Speaker 2: a little bit worried about, Man, this is I'm jumping
27:17
Speaker 2: right back into the fire and felt great when I
27:20
Speaker 2: did it, And then there's been other times that I've
27:23
Speaker 2: struggled right out of the gate, and I don't necessarily think, well,
27:25
Speaker 2: it's because of that, or it's because of that success
27:28
Speaker 2: or failure. Sometimes it just happens. And yet I wouldn't
27:31
Speaker 2: be surprised one bit if he comes out in the
27:33
Speaker 2: first opportunity, gets just absolutely most people down. He does
27:36
Speaker 2: it more often than not.
27:37
Speaker 4: He don't ask me, just so question clean, that's what
27:41
Speaker 4: he's gonna say when he walks out there.
27:42
Speaker 1: Oh he does. I do too, because first of all,
27:45
Speaker 1: that'd be a really great take on your part. Make
27:47
Speaker 1: a promo out of that if he does that, I will. Okay,
27:49
Speaker 1: Ashley was Ashley was on that before it even happened.
27:53
Speaker 1: All Right, we got Ryan Heay coming up at nine
27:56
Speaker 1: o'clock and another a second day of surprise surprise for
28:00
Speaker 1: Ryan Healey as well, coming up at nine o'clock today.
28:04
Speaker 1: Coming up next, speaking of f fs for Fish, because
28:09
Speaker 1: Jetfish has a big game this Saturday. Sports Radio ninety
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Speaker 1: three point three kja r FM similarly ranked to Washington
28:16
Speaker 1: heading into this game, but a win at Michigan will
28:19
Speaker 1: certainly propel the perspective that the national pundits will have
28:25
Speaker 1: on Washington and whether or not they are ready to
28:28
Speaker 1: take that next step. So big game, according to Softy
28:31
Speaker 1: shows game coming up this Saturday, and I agree with him.
28:35
Speaker 1: Nine am kickoff, nine am kickoff our time. It's the
28:39
Speaker 1: big noon game on Fox. So that means Softy and
28:43
Speaker 1: the honks will get started at six am on Saturday
28:47
Speaker 1: right here at Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ
28:50
Speaker 1: r FM. So big game for Jetfish. I mean he's
28:53
Speaker 1: had a little bit a few of these milestones this year.
28:56
Speaker 1: He was sort of given them a pass a year
28:59
Speaker 1: ago and understandably so what you had to overcome in
29:04
Speaker 1: that first full season. And then this year you've already
29:07
Speaker 1: seen him win on the road, So we got that licked.
29:09
Speaker 1: We saw him win on the road in conference. We've
29:12
Speaker 1: seen that now, so you got that problem licked. But
29:15
Speaker 1: where's that big win. Where's that big win on the road,
29:20
Speaker 1: particularly if they get it. They're a top twenty five team,
29:23
Speaker 1: no doubt next week, and as Softie also pointed out
29:27
Speaker 1: earlier in our conversation with him, they do like legitimately
29:31
Speaker 1: start entering that picture for maybe the word playoff being discussed.
29:37
Speaker 1: So this is monstrous on Saturday, Yeah, oh yeah, big game.
29:41
Speaker 2: I mean if sitting at five and one, no signature
29:45
Speaker 2: wins up to this point, and yet they're playing much
29:49
Speaker 2: better football than they played a year ago. And so
29:52
Speaker 2: I think some people are concerned why aren't they ranked?
29:54
Speaker 2: And you can look at the rankings. I don't think
29:56
Speaker 2: about the rankings a whole heck of a lot. Don't
29:58
Speaker 2: put a lot of weight into them anyway, until you
30:01
Speaker 2: get deeper into the season tour, it really starts mattering
30:04
Speaker 2: whether or not you're in the conversation for making the playoffs.
30:09
Speaker 2: And yet this is a game where if you go
30:12
Speaker 2: in there and shock the world to some extent and
30:14
Speaker 2: beat Michigan in the big House, even though it's not
30:18
Speaker 2: the team that they had played, like Softy said a
30:19
Speaker 2: couple years ago for the national title, it still is
30:23
Speaker 2: a good team. And if you go in and chock them,
30:25
Speaker 2: then you'll be ranked and another thing you can check
30:27
Speaker 2: off the list.
30:28
Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely think you'll at least move into the
30:30
Speaker 3: top twenty five.
30:31
Speaker 4: Whether or not you'll be in that playoff conversation, I
30:33
Speaker 4: don't know, just given that you were twenty eight and
30:36
Speaker 4: now you're just cracking the top twenty five, that might
30:39
Speaker 4: be a little premature. But you need this win in
30:42
Speaker 4: order to have any further success this season.
30:45
Speaker 1: I think, I mean, the playoff conversations too early anyway.
30:49
Speaker 1: But if you do get this win, and considering how
30:52
Speaker 1: light the schedule gets after this, yeah, I think you
30:56
Speaker 1: can start thinking about how the dominoes might fall that
31:00
Speaker 1: put you in a position when the time does come.
31:02
Speaker 1: Yeah that okay, Yeah, I think without this you're not
31:06
Speaker 1: going to enter that conversation. So it feels big. It
31:09
Speaker 1: feels big on a lot of levels for this team
31:11
Speaker 1: to go in there and get that win, certainly on
31:15
Speaker 1: Saturday at Michigan. Here's the other thing that's happening, because
31:18
Speaker 1: we're going to start seeing this as college football fans
31:22
Speaker 1: a lot more like when the program decides we got
31:25
Speaker 1: a lot of money invested in you and it's not
31:27
Speaker 1: going the direction we want, guess what, we'll eat the money,
31:30
Speaker 1: get out of town. We're seeing a lot of that happen.
31:33
Speaker 1: James Franklin suddenly a free agent in the middle of
31:36
Speaker 1: the season, and there are rumors this weekend that Billy
31:40
Speaker 1: Napier is going to not make it through this weekend
31:44
Speaker 1: at Florida. Well guess where Jedfish has been rumored to
31:47
Speaker 1: go since he was at Arizona, much less Washington. So
31:52
Speaker 1: whether there's any validity to it, the Jedfish rumors are
31:56
Speaker 1: already flying. And maybe that's just because that's the reputation
32:00
Speaker 1: Jetfish has carved out for himself because he's moved around,
32:04
Speaker 1: he's been a vagabond in football. Maybe that just comes
32:08
Speaker 1: with the territory, or maybe where there's smoke, there's a
32:11
Speaker 1: little bit of fire. But between UCLA and Penn State
32:15
Speaker 1: and now Florida maybe open this weekend, I mean, Jetfish
32:19
Speaker 1: is getting linked everywhere to football programs. So I don't
32:24
Speaker 1: know if that suggests that he's not one hundred percent
32:27
Speaker 1: happy at Washington or Washington's not one hundred percent happy
32:31
Speaker 1: with him. It probably has more to do with he
32:34
Speaker 1: just moves around a lot, and so people put him
32:36
Speaker 1: on their candidacy list every time there's a decent vacancy
32:40
Speaker 1: that becomes available in college football. Well, we're gonna have
32:43
Speaker 1: three really good vacancies by the end of the weekend potentially,
32:47
Speaker 1: and it feels like Jetfish is being linked to all
32:49
Speaker 1: of them.
32:49
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting because I don't I mean, Penn State obviously,
32:54
Speaker 2: I think is considered obviously a blue blood, and maybe
32:58
Speaker 2: more so than you dub Florida would say, probably is
33:01
Speaker 2: in that same category, not gigantic leaps. It's not like
33:05
Speaker 2: you know those that kind of understood how Klein debor
33:08
Speaker 2: would maybe take the primo job in the country at Alabama.
33:12
Speaker 2: I don't think that I'd put any of these in
33:14
Speaker 2: those I definitely don't put UCLA in that, and yet
33:18
Speaker 2: he's had connections to these places, but everywhere.
33:22
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's been around so much. He's got a connection
33:24
Speaker 1: to almost every program, NFL or college. He's worked with
33:29
Speaker 1: somebody or has a relationship with somebody. Yeah.
33:32
Speaker 2: Yeah, And yet I would hope that there's something to
33:35
Speaker 2: not loyalty because that's not the right word for it,
33:38
Speaker 2: but something to. I don't want to keep picking up
33:41
Speaker 2: and trying to put down roots and then establish something.
33:45
Speaker 2: I mean, last year couldn't have been super enjoyable. I mean,
33:48
Speaker 2: we gave him a pass, and rightfully so. I mean,
33:50
Speaker 2: you lost a ton of people to the NFL, and
33:52
Speaker 2: then the win, you got hired, the transfer portal, all
33:54
Speaker 2: that stuff. What an uphill battle. And yet he's done it,
33:57
Speaker 2: and now there's a rebound. We're witnessing the rebound in
34:01
Speaker 2: year two. I wouldn't want to go do that again
34:03
Speaker 2: at another place. But who knows what he It depends
34:07
Speaker 2: what he thinks is better. If he thinks than any
34:09
Speaker 2: of these places are better, If two of them or
34:11
Speaker 2: three of them, all three of them are better, we
34:13
Speaker 2: shall see.
34:14
Speaker 1: All right. Well, coming up next on the program, Ryan
34:16
Speaker 1: Healey has been a wonderful addition to our postseason coverage.
34:20
Speaker 1: He's going to join us next and for the second
34:22
Speaker 1: day in a row, we've got a surprise on deck
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Speaker 1: for Ryan Healey Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ RFM.