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Hall & Oates: The Eviction That Brought The Duo Together [Highlight From Episode 312] · Booked On Rock with Eric Senich

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  Speaker 1: Here's a highlight from a recent episode of Booked on Rock.
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  Speaker 1: Our guest is author, TV host photographer Percepting. Not too
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  Speaker 1: long ago, the news hit about the falling out between
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  Speaker 1: Hall and Oates over their song publishing you co author
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  Speaker 1: John's memoir from twenty seventeen, Change of Seasons. How did
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  Speaker 1: he meet Daryll Hall? What was their relationship like through
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  Speaker 1: the years? Were there was there always tension between the two?
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  Speaker 1: Was that more recent?
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  Speaker 2: They met in Philadelphia, both going to school. There was
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  Speaker 2: a battle of the bands basically, and I think of
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  Speaker 2: the not the Uptown Theater, another theater in Philly. Their
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  Speaker 2: bands are both going to play their backstage shots ring
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  Speaker 2: out in the theater, and so John and Darryl's band
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  Speaker 2: gets pushed into a service elevator where they're going to escape,
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  Speaker 2: and they're face to face and they're like what the
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  Speaker 2: And they start talking in the elevator and they're like, well,
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  Speaker 2: we should hang out. And that's the spark of it.
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  Speaker 2: That's really where it starts. And then one of my
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  Speaker 2: favorite part a lot of the books, for me, the
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  Speaker 2: most interesting parts are before the people are famous, because
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  Speaker 2: once they're famous, you know a lot of that stuff.
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  Speaker 2: But there's a fascinating sequence set of sequences in John's book,
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  Speaker 2: and John, I will tell you, of all the books
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  Speaker 2: I've done, I think John's is always going to be
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  Speaker 2: in a way. It's especial on a real, on a
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  Speaker 2: big level because John as a writer, we collaborated, We
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  Speaker 2: remain great friends. I'm really fond of John Ohates as
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  Speaker 2: an artist, as a writer, as a musician, everything, And
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  Speaker 2: you know, we wrote very closely on this. But the
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  Speaker 2: other sequence in the book I was referencing was when
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  Speaker 2: John gets out of college in like sixty seven or so,
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  Speaker 2: he does what a lot of them do that he
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  Speaker 2: went to Europe and trades around for three months. Right.
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  Speaker 2: He and Daryl are friends at that point, but that's it.
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  Speaker 2: They've not worked together, and Daryl gets his sister to
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  Speaker 2: rent John's apartment while he's gone. John says, hey, would
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  Speaker 2: Kathy sub let my place? Yeah, no problem. Three months later,
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  Speaker 2: there's a padlock on his door. She didn't pay the rent.
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  Speaker 2: So John's been evicted and he's got nowhere to go.
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  Speaker 2: He walks down to Darrow's place and says, your sister
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  Speaker 2: kind of did me in here, And Darrel has got
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  Speaker 2: a little loft apartment and says just stay here. That's
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  Speaker 2: what put them in the place to start making musics.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, right, so wow, that's We.
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  Speaker 2: Would walk the streets of Philadelphia before the book came out,
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  Speaker 2: did a little video series like Okay, here's the apartment.
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  Speaker 2: If you don't get evicted from this place, maybe you
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  Speaker 2: don't get to this place. And we went to Darryl's
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  Speaker 2: place and the fact they were forced to live together,
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  Speaker 2: that's where they start really collaborating. That's the spark of them.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the mailbox was haul and oats.
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  Speaker 1: And when did things start to go wrong for them
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  Speaker 1: long into their career.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, look, I saw all on
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  Speaker 2: Out's play. If I saw them once, I saw them
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  Speaker 2: sixty times working on the book. I mean again, they
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  Speaker 2: put on great shows, sold out every arena, every theater. Whatever.
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  Speaker 2: It caught me off guard too. I mean, look, there's
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  Speaker 2: always artistic tensions that I think exist, or disagreements, but
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  Speaker 2: I've seen that a million times, sure, you know, so
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  Speaker 2: what happened was nothing. I was privy to it, and
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  Speaker 2: I was, you know, surprised, like everybody was if that happened, you.
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  Speaker 1: Know, yeah, surprised for sure. When he's on CBS. I
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  Speaker 1: think doing an interview with CBS, it's basically saying, you know,
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  Speaker 1: people think that when you see these bands, they're all
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  Speaker 1: buddies and everybody's getting along. Yeah, he goes, we haven't.
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  Speaker 1: We would for the longest time, we'd show up at
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  Speaker 1: the gig in separate buses or planes or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: Ye stage home isn't a bad thing because I think
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  Speaker 2: once you understand the business of it and the dynamics,
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  Speaker 2: you don't have to be friends. You know what you're
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  Speaker 2: there for. You know whether it's Jagger and Richard whomever.
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  Speaker 2: You know what the gig is and what can help
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  Speaker 2: it keep it going. Sometimes you don't get sick of
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  Speaker 2: each other. You're there to work, and I think you
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  Speaker 2: can look at it that way as well.