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Mac & Bone Hour 3: Ron Rivera & Haynes King Mania · Mac & Bone Podcast

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Speaker 3: Welcome back everybody, It is the Mack and Bone Show.
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Speaker 3: What a special weekend it is gonna be in Canton, Ohio.
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Speaker 3: I know a ton of Panther fans are there. There
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Speaker 3: will be a ton of fifty nine jerseys and it
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Speaker 3: is going to be fun to see Luke Keigley have
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Speaker 3: his moment inducted into the Hall of Fame. Who better
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Speaker 3: to talk to about Luke's career, what he was like
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Speaker 3: as a player, Not only the man that was his
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Speaker 3: head coach for so much of his career in Carolina,
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Speaker 3: but a man that played the same position as Luke
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Speaker 3: in his NFL career. Of course, we're talking about former
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Speaker 3: Panther head coach Ron Rivera, who joins us on the
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Speaker 3: Mac and Bone Show.
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Speaker 2: Coach, it is a pleasure. How you doing.
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Speaker 1: I'm doing great. I appreciate you guys reaching out.
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Speaker 3: Thank you always, Coach always, You're the perfect guy to
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Speaker 3: talk to coach, I know you're busy as the GM
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Speaker 3: of Cal Football.
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Speaker 2: I know you're pumped up about the.
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Speaker 3: Cal season, but are you are you going to be
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Speaker 3: a part of the celebration and the festivities in Ohio
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Speaker 3: this weekend?
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Speaker 1: Yes? Yes, yes, yes, as long as as long as
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Speaker 1: the air traffic doesn't let us down, I'm planned to
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Speaker 1: be there. I'm looking forward to being there, And from
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Speaker 1: what I understand, Who's going to have a whole bunch
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Speaker 1: of his former teammates there as well, So this is
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Speaker 1: pretty exciting.
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Speaker 2: Coach. We often talk about the mental side the Luke,
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Speaker 2: and you've told stories about the film preparation, but from
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Speaker 2: just the physical standpoint, how great of a linebacker was
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Speaker 2: he in terms of playing the game, just aside from
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Speaker 2: the mental aspect of.
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Speaker 1: It, you know, I think as a player, as an athlete,
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Speaker 1: he was be one of the best I've ever been around,
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Speaker 1: especially at the linebacking position. You know, he had a
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Speaker 1: great first step quickness and the ability to adjust uh
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Speaker 1: very quickly on the run, and because of that athleticism,
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Speaker 1: I think he made some plays that most guys have
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Speaker 1: no opportunity to make. So it was it was really
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Speaker 1: kind of one of those things. I just he'd do
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Speaker 1: things and I'd just be completely amazed. And remember I
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Speaker 1: played with Mike Singletary, I helped coach Brian Urlacker, and
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Speaker 1: and he fits right into the meddle with those guys.
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Speaker 2: Coach, It's funny you bring up Singletary Interwhacker, because I
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Speaker 2: was going to ask you what traits did Luke have
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Speaker 2: in common the way he played the game like those guys, Well.
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Speaker 1: He had he had their intensity, he had their their discipline,
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Speaker 1: he had their preparation efforts, and he had their athleticism. Uh,
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Speaker 1: Mike was Mike was one of those self made guys.
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Speaker 1: That's just because he practiced, already worked hard, he did everything,
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Speaker 1: you know, uh, you know, and Brian was such a
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Speaker 1: gifted athlete. I mean, you know, you're six four and
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Speaker 1: a half sixty five and you run like a deer man.
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Speaker 1: That's pretty special. So you know, Luke has every one
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Speaker 1: of those qualities.
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Speaker 3: Coach, let's let's talk about rookie year Luke Keikley. I
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Speaker 3: read a great article by Darren Gant this week at
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Speaker 3: Panthers dot Com and I had quotes in there from
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Speaker 3: John Beeson, and I remember this playing out. You guys
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Speaker 3: had a loaded linebacker room and drafted Luke anyway, and
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Speaker 3: you know it. He gets in there and you're trying
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Speaker 3: to figure out, Okay, we got James Anderson, we got Beson,
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Speaker 3: but he's coming off injury. But Beson's are all pro
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Speaker 3: middle linebacker, we got TD and you're trying to figure
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Speaker 3: out where where Luke sits. And John Beeson tells his
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Speaker 3: story in there of just realizing, oh man, this guy's
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Speaker 3: got to play the middle like I can't like, like
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Speaker 3: this guy is just special. Do you remember going through
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Speaker 3: that in your mind as a coach and kind of realizing,
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Speaker 3: oh my god, we got good linebackers here, but this
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Speaker 3: dude's gotta he's gotta run the show.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it was know those things that when
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Speaker 1: we first met Luke at the combine and listened to
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Speaker 1: him describe, you know, a play, you know, asked lou K.
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Speaker 1: He tells what happened on this play? What do you do?
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Speaker 1: He just didn't tell us what he did. He did.
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Speaker 1: He told what his other ten teammates did, as well
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Speaker 1: as what the offense was doing and why the offense
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Speaker 1: reacted the way they did. I mean, it was as
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Speaker 1: impressive as it guy, but you know, our initial thought was,
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Speaker 1: you know, hey, we had to keep beasts in the middle.
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Speaker 1: We'll put Luke at the strong side and see how
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Speaker 1: that goes. But it very became very very evident right away.
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Speaker 1: And Sean McDermot and I, you know, we go way
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Speaker 1: back to when we were in Philadelphia together under Jim Johnson,
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Speaker 1: and we had we had an inkling in our minds
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Speaker 1: that Luke was the perfect guy for the medal. And
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Speaker 1: and and that's really kind of how it worked out.
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Speaker 1: And and a lot of it you saw just did
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Speaker 1: by the way he handled things, the way he did things.
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Speaker 1: But one thing, you know, and and and and I
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Speaker 1: hope that everybody in their senses Luke was so respectful
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Speaker 1: of the veteran linebackers that that he was really careful
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Speaker 1: as to the way he did things, and and and
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Speaker 1: that really just kind of spoke a little bit to
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Speaker 1: who he is as as a man, uh as as
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Speaker 1: a player, as a teammate. But it was evident to
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Speaker 1: us and and and that's why we made the move.
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Speaker 2: Douch, I understand your answer here might be all of them,
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Speaker 2: But do you do you have a favorite Luke play
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Speaker 2: or moment that comes to mind?
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Speaker 1: All of them. No, I think I think it was
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Speaker 1: the Thanksgiving game when he intercept to Tony Romo for
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Speaker 1: the second time and returned it for a touchdown, and
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Speaker 1: he threw that little flipper at at Tony. And it's
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Speaker 1: funny because you know, I feel responsible for that because
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Speaker 1: going into that game, it was a Thursday night game,
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Speaker 1: Romo was coming off injury. At one point. When they
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Speaker 1: announced Tony Romo is going to play that game, they
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Speaker 1: were the favorite and we were the I think we
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Speaker 1: were the undefeated team left at that point, and he
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Speaker 1: was the favorite. So I poked the bear a little
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Speaker 1: bit by getting up in front of the team. It's
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Speaker 1: in there going, are you effing kidding me? One player,
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Speaker 1: one player is gonna make the difference and he's better
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Speaker 1: than all fifty three of us. Oh that's bull crap.
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Speaker 1: I mean I kind of went that direction with him,
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Speaker 1: and I think a few of the guys took that
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Speaker 1: to heart and had something to prove that day. And
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Speaker 1: you know Luke, I mean Luke, just his intensity level
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Speaker 1: it looked like it went up, and man, he was
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Speaker 1: it was. He made some plays that game. He had
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Speaker 1: two interceptions that were right out of the textbook.
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Speaker 2: I love it man.
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Speaker 1: And and then the little lecture you know, elbow he
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Speaker 1: kind of gave Tony kind of man. I said, boy,
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Speaker 1: he really got fired up for this one.
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Speaker 3: Your message got across he was. He took it personal
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Speaker 3: with Tony Romo. We're talking to Ron Rivera. A great
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Speaker 3: story there about Luke Keighley and the amazing twenty fifteen
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Speaker 3: win over Dallas on Thanksgiving. Coach that Saints game to
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Speaker 3: twenty thirteen where he was officially credited with twenty four
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Speaker 3: tackles and it was raining like crazy and that was
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Speaker 3: huge for y'all winning to do that one sticks out too.
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Speaker 3: I mean, he was it looked that's one where it
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Speaker 3: looked like there were two Luke Keickley's on the field.
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Speaker 4: Did and you know who.
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Speaker 1: Else played really well that game was Thomas Davis. I mean,
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Speaker 1: those two guys in tend and really helped carry that defense.
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Speaker 1: But Luke was so inspirational and wanting to make every play,
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Speaker 1: and I think as teammates felt the energy and a
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Speaker 1: lot of it. Really Also, you go back and look
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Speaker 1: at how well a whole defense played. But I'll say
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Speaker 1: when you look at that game, to win that game,
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Speaker 1: your your studs, your stars had to step up, you know.
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Speaker 1: And we can't forget the great performance by Cam Newton
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Speaker 1: that day, throwing the game winner at the very end,
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Speaker 1: you know, the interception TV made some of the plays
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Speaker 1: that were made by Steaments. But man, I think the
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Speaker 1: thing everybody got to understand is, to me, the reason
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Speaker 1: Luke is going into the Hall of Fame is because
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Speaker 1: he does what all great players do. He raises the
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Speaker 1: play of the people around you. Okay, he raised the
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Speaker 1: play of the other ten guys on the field with him.
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Speaker 1: And I think it also helped reflect a little bit
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Speaker 1: on what our offense did because you know, again that's
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Speaker 1: that's an impact player. That's a guy that changes the
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Speaker 1: way things are done because they carry that kind of energy,
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Speaker 1: you know. And and and it's one of the things
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Speaker 1: that you know, I've talked about, you know, you know
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Speaker 1: with our guys that you know, leadership is never about to you,
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Speaker 1: but leadership starts with you. You said, you set the tempo,
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Speaker 1: you set the standard. And that's what Luke did. He
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Speaker 1: set the standard not just for for for for for
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Speaker 1: the defense or the special teams or the offense, but
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Speaker 1: for the whole team. And and and that's what it
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Speaker 1: was the thing that was so impressive about who he
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Speaker 1: is as a young man.
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Speaker 2: Coach, What was your reaction when the news broke that
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Speaker 2: Luke was retiring did it Did it catch you off guard?
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Speaker 2: Because some people say, well, you know that knew him,
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Speaker 2: said you know what, it kind of made sense, and
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Speaker 2: others say they were completely caught off guard by it.
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Speaker 1: Well, I'll be honest, I had the great fortune of
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Speaker 1: him uh reaching out and coming to see me to
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Speaker 1: talk about it leave me. It was one of the
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Speaker 1: more tremendous opportunities that Luke afforded me, and that was
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Speaker 1: to to visit with him prior to his decision, so
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Speaker 1: I knew it was coming and and I'm you know,
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Speaker 1: it broke my heart to a degree just because of
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Speaker 1: who he is as a young man and as a
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Speaker 1: football player, but because the game means a lot to him.
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Speaker 1: And I think that's why he stated attached to the
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Speaker 1: to the Panthers. And I'm very glad that David Tefferd
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Speaker 1: did that, because you know, players like Luke that that
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Speaker 1: build a legacy and create a home and stay around
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Speaker 1: they should be around uh And and I think that's
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Speaker 1: one of the really great things that has happened for
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Speaker 1: the Panthers that Luke is still engaged with him.
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Speaker 3: We're talking with Panther head coach Ron Rivera sharing memories
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Speaker 3: of Luke Keigley, including that conversation where Luke shared with
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Speaker 3: coach that he was going to retire after only eight seasons.
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Speaker 2: Coach.
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Speaker 3: Obviously a part of that, I'm sure was the concussion battle.
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Speaker 2: I will never forget it.
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Speaker 3: This is a different, different Saints game, but that primetime
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Speaker 3: Saints game where he's in tears, you know, And I
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Speaker 3: didn't know at the time that hey, that's that that
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Speaker 3: can happen as a symptom of a concussion. But that
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Speaker 3: was so scary to see this big, tough dude like that.
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Speaker 3: How hard was it on you as a coach to
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Speaker 3: kind of I mean, I think there was one moment
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Speaker 3: where you basically told Luke, Hey, I'm sitting you out
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Speaker 3: here at this point, uh late in the season, Like,
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Speaker 3: how hard was it on you to kind of balance, Hey,
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Speaker 3: I want him on the field, but I'm worried about
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Speaker 3: him right now.
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Speaker 1: And that's exactly what happened. I was truly worried with him,
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Speaker 1: and you know, I had an opportunity to talk to
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Speaker 1: his parents. His mom and dad are two terrific people,
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Speaker 1: tremendous and and I felt that responsibility and as a
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Speaker 1: father and myself, you know, I only wanted the best
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Speaker 1: for the young man. And and in talking with with
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Speaker 1: with our doctors, our team doctors, doctor Higher, our our head,
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Speaker 1: our head trainer, Ryan Vermilion, you know, we felt that
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Speaker 1: collectively the best thing for him and again this this
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Speaker 1: now became about him, was to sit and to let
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Speaker 1: him recover and and hopefully get back to the being Luke.
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Speaker 1: So we made a tough decision, but I believe it
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Speaker 1: was the right one.
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Speaker 2: Coach, there are so many moments we that twenty fifteen
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Speaker 2: team as a whole. That's the best team in Charlotte
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Speaker 2: sports history that you coach and help put together. And
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Speaker 2: much like the Luke question, it's probably a lot of answers,
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Speaker 2: But is there a moment or two when you think
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Speaker 2: about that team and all the moments they gave us,
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Speaker 2: is there a moment or two that makes you smile
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Speaker 2: that you love to remember the most?
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Speaker 1: In all honesty, the winning the NFC championship, that game,
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Speaker 1: you know, was the moment after right after the game,
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Speaker 1: that was probably one of the That is the best
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Speaker 1: number one moment for me as a head coach period
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Speaker 1: as far as winning and losing games. You know, my
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Speaker 1: big disappointment obviously is not being able to win win
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Speaker 1: it for the city. You know, would have loved have
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Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl title and be able to bring
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Speaker 1: it home to Charlotte. And you know, it's crazy. I
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Speaker 1: always reflect on that. But but that that to me
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Speaker 1: is probably that's my low point as a coach. But
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Speaker 1: my high point is is being the players, talking with
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Speaker 1: the players after having won the NFC. I mean, you know,
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Speaker 1: we had some we had some We had some high
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Speaker 1: water mark games too, you know, and you mentioned one
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Speaker 1: of my favorite was the twenty thirteenth victory over New Orleans.
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Speaker 1: You know that that game was was as big as
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Speaker 1: it gets, you know, being able to beat Bill Belichick team,
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Speaker 1: or beating Andy Reid. I mean, you know, the guys
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Speaker 1: that I've had tremendous respect for and guys that helped
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Speaker 1: mentor me. So I mean, there was some really cool
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Speaker 1: moments and a lot of it circles around who Luke
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Speaker 1: Keickley was for us on our football team.
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Speaker 3: I remember that play at the end of the Monday
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Speaker 3: night game against the Patriots where Brady was crying at
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Speaker 3: a ref coach. You didn't get a call for once.
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Speaker 3: He didn't get a call in theien zone on p
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Speaker 3: I on Luke. Ah, that was beautiful, That was beautiful.
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Speaker 3: You don't look back and smile. What the Josh Norman
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Speaker 3: versus Odell.
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Speaker 1: A fight that went on that, you know what I do.
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Speaker 1: But I will say that that I felt so bad
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Speaker 1: for Josh because so many people wanted to pain him
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Speaker 1: as as as the bad guy. And and and I'll
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Speaker 1: just tell you that's just Josh's intensity because again, when
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Speaker 1: when when when those players were challenged? You know when?
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Speaker 1: When when when people when when people doubted those guys,
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Speaker 1: you know they they rose to the occasion. And and
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Speaker 1: and that was probably one of Josh Norman's finest moments
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Speaker 1: in terms of the battle, I mean, playing to his
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Speaker 1: ability and and really just challenging one of the one
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Speaker 1: of the great receivers at that time.
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Speaker 2: Oh, no doubt, no doubt. All right, last question I
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Speaker 2: have not asked.
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Speaker 3: We've talked to, uh, you know, a bunch of Luke's coaches,
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Speaker 3: but I've never asked a question this way. I've never
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Speaker 3: asked you this question coach. We always hear about Luke.
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Speaker 3: A lot of his teammates Kirk Cooma's on with us
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Speaker 3: this week, would talk about how much he'd helped them, Right, Hey,
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Speaker 3: I know what's coming, it's run left or screen over
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Speaker 3: there and all that stuff. But I want to hear
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Speaker 3: about how much did he help you as coaches? Like
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Speaker 3: were there times where he caught something on film and
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Speaker 3: he's like showing the coaching staff or the game plans
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Speaker 3: put together, and he's like, no, no, no, we got
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Speaker 3: to do this, Like how much of that was happening?
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Speaker 1: Oh that was happening constantly? You know, because he was
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Speaker 1: he was He was so so football orient and and
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Speaker 1: and intelligent in the exits and OUIs that we listened.
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Speaker 1: I mean we respected not just him but all of
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Speaker 1: our players. If our players came to us with something
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Speaker 1: that you know, they they they they really didn't feel
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Speaker 1: comfortable with, they talked about it, and and there was
14:35
Speaker 1: a willingness bye bye bye by our coordinators, by Sean
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Speaker 1: and and and Mike Shruda that hey, if this didn't
14:42
Speaker 1: look at it didn't fit right, hey, let's let's take
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Speaker 1: it out. And I think the players respected that because
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Speaker 1: they did. They were willing to say something, you know,
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Speaker 1: and and and Luke was one of those guys that
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Speaker 1: that you could go to and say, what do you
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Speaker 1: think you think this fits? Is this right or wrong?
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Speaker 1: And Luke would tell you.
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Speaker 5: You know.
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Speaker 1: And it's funny too, because Steve Wilkes, I know, he
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Speaker 1: said this in a in a couple of interviews, and
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Speaker 1: Sewan also mentioned it is that with Luke in that room,
15:06
Speaker 1: when you walked in, you as a coach had to
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Speaker 1: be on your game because Luke would raise his hand
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Speaker 1: and ask that question and you had to have the answer.
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Speaker 1: And he did it in a respectful way where if
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Speaker 1: he wasn't sure or he didn't think it was right,
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Speaker 1: he asked it in a way that gave you a
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Speaker 1: chance to correct yourself. That's how much of a professional
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Speaker 1: he was. And believe me, it happened to all of
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Speaker 1: us coaches. He would say something that makes you realize,
15:34
Speaker 1: oh crap, you know what, He's right, and you were
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Speaker 1: able to just go with the flow. I mean that
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Speaker 1: that was the thing. And and I just remember, you know,
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Speaker 1: coach Wilke's talking about that. I remember Sean talking about it,
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Speaker 1: and like I said, I was just grateful that we
15:47
Speaker 1: had the kind of coaches that that that that that
15:51
Speaker 1: trusted the players enough that if they brought something up,
15:55
Speaker 1: they were willing to change it. So to me, that
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Speaker 1: that that that's what you want in your in your
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Speaker 1: coaches and your players, is that you want that communication.
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Speaker 1: And I think that was one of the great things
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Speaker 1: about it. And you know, and then the one last
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Speaker 1: thing too, and I think everybody needs to know this,
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Speaker 1: Luke has got an unbelievable sense of humor. Okay, people
16:15
Speaker 1: don't know that about Luke. One year, for Halloween, and
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Speaker 1: it might have been the twenty fifteen or twenty seventeen season,
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Speaker 1: I know it was one of those years. Luke came
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Speaker 1: out into the locker room dressed as Cam Newton and
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Speaker 1: everybody fell out because it was it was the opposite version.
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Speaker 1: It was the right arm version. It was the deep
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Speaker 1: as the version of what what would have looked like
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Speaker 1: as our metal linebacker. It was hilarious.
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Speaker 3: That picture was shared on Panthers dot com this week,
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Speaker 3: and I had kind of I'd forgotten about it.
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Speaker 2: It was exactly Cam's outfit. I mean it was that
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Speaker 2: that was classic.
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Speaker 3: Man. You got the fun y'all must have had in
16:55
Speaker 3: that locker room, man, I'm telling you that. And these
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Speaker 3: stories are so fun to hear to coach.
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Speaker 1: You know one of the other ones, and I those
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Speaker 1: one real quick too, that love people during that during
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Speaker 1: that season, during that run, you know. So to keep
17:09
Speaker 1: everybody from getting tense and up tight, I let our
17:12
Speaker 1: position of coaches get up and tell stories and and
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Speaker 1: and and and and lead a team a team talk.
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Speaker 1: Mike Schuler got up there one day and he was
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Speaker 1: telling the team. He told this story about when his
17:24
Speaker 1: father's team was undefeated, how loose they tried to stay.
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Speaker 1: And so one one day he's telling the story that
17:31
Speaker 1: a group of the players got a small alligator and
17:34
Speaker 1: put it in his shower. So Schula walks in and
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Speaker 1: there's this alligator and any any any you know, So
17:41
Speaker 1: he gets really upset. He gets in front of the
17:43
Speaker 1: team and he goes, I don't know what the hell
17:44
Speaker 1: is going on, but you guys gotta you guys gotta
17:46
Speaker 1: gotta understand how serious this is, and and als, and
17:50
Speaker 1: he looks at Larry Zonk, and coach yells at Larry
17:53
Speaker 1: Zonk and says, hey, and I know you had something
17:55
Speaker 1: to do with it. Zonk and Zong goes, well, I did, coach,
17:58
Speaker 1: I'm the one who said let's take his mouth shut.
18:02
Speaker 1: So he tells that story on Sunday so on. I
18:07
Speaker 1: think it was Friday morning. I can't remember the week.
18:10
Speaker 1: It was near the end of the year. I come
18:12
Speaker 1: into my shower and there's a fricking alligator in my
18:16
Speaker 1: in my show and I knew right away who it was.
18:19
Speaker 1: It was Charles Tillman. So I walked into the into
18:22
Speaker 1: the locker room. There's Tilman telling all the all the
18:24
Speaker 1: guys about what he just did. To me, Oh, I
18:26
Speaker 1: was was? I mean, that was You're right. We had
18:29
Speaker 1: a lot of fun because we had the kind of
18:30
Speaker 1: guys that could do that.
18:32
Speaker 2: That's so good. That is so good. Well, coach, thank
18:34
Speaker 2: and that's the guy that that became an FBI agent
18:36
Speaker 2: of all your guys.
18:38
Speaker 3: That was a plot twist. That's a plot twist. And
18:41
Speaker 3: see that happening, coach, Uh, that was This was awesome.
18:44
Speaker 3: We love the stories. We love hearing about these good
18:47
Speaker 3: old days. Thanks so much for you joining us. Best
18:50
Speaker 3: elected cow Football. Can't wait to watch that young quarterback
18:53
Speaker 3: sling it for y'all this year.
18:54
Speaker 2: Coach. Good luck to see you.
18:56
Speaker 1: No I'll tell you what he's special, guys, he's special.
18:59
Speaker 1: Keeping eye on him.
19:00
Speaker 3: You could tell, you could tell. All right, coach, have
19:02
Speaker 3: fun to cant this week. Thanks for joining us.
19:05
Speaker 1: All right, thanks guys, I'm here now there you go.
19:08
Speaker 2: That is Ron Rivera. How enjoyable was that bone? He
19:13
Speaker 2: he multiple stories and he's like, wait, I gotta tell
19:15
Speaker 2: you this one and that alligator one I don't think
19:19
Speaker 2: told before publicly. He often tells a story about Luke
19:22
Speaker 2: watching film on Christmas Eve. But I had never heard
19:26
Speaker 2: the alligators. Tilman put an alligator in there. That is hilarious.
19:30
Speaker 2: I didn't really follow up. How did he know immediately
19:33
Speaker 2: it was Charles Tilban though? Yeah, how he immediately knew
19:35
Speaker 2: it was Tilban. I don't know. That's there's a lot
19:38
Speaker 2: of pranksters over there. Yeah, I don't know. He knew
19:41
Speaker 2: he was the alligator man. That was so good.
19:43
Speaker 3: And so many Texters are saying the same thing I
19:46
Speaker 3: said to you after that interview. I could listen to
19:50
Speaker 3: him hours telling old stories and you get the feeling
19:54
Speaker 3: bone all the times he comes on and goes down.
19:56
Speaker 2: Then Jake's like this too.
19:58
Speaker 3: They both love telling the stories like it's not like
20:01
Speaker 3: we're like, it's not like we're bothering I'm sure many
20:04
Speaker 3: a guest feels like we're bothering them. Both those guys.
20:07
Speaker 3: Jake was on this week too. They just love talking
20:10
Speaker 3: about the old days and it's so much fun. It's
20:12
Speaker 3: funny to take back where Rivera. We always knew that
20:15
Speaker 3: he was a really great talker, but he had to
20:18
Speaker 3: never tell you anything when he was a coach, Like
20:21
Speaker 3: Rivera talking at coach speak now seems a little ridiculous
20:24
Speaker 3: when you know how much he wants to tell you. Right, Oh, totally, totally, man.
20:28
Speaker 3: So that was absolutely awesome. If you joined in the
20:30
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20:34
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20:36
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20:43
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20:44
Speaker 6: What you have.
20:45
Speaker 2: I said today, Yeah, wait till we get our Hanes
20:46
Speaker 2: on you. Yeah, I think you used that one earlier.
20:49
Speaker 2: I think I used Haines King as the King of
20:51
Speaker 2: the Queen in the show. I'm bringing that one back
20:54
Speaker 2: to it. We both bring them back. Well, then I'm
20:56
Speaker 2: going to bring them another one back, and then you
20:58
Speaker 2: bring another one back. Lack okay, okay, all right. When
21:00
Speaker 2: we come back here in the Mack and Bone Show,
21:02
Speaker 2: we know you were dying to talk about him. How
21:06
Speaker 2: should we feel about Haines King after that performance yesterday?
21:10
Speaker 2: And what's this mean for the fifty three man roster
21:13
Speaker 2: Sports Radio seven WFNZ.
21:39
Speaker 7: Game on the line, King, He's gonna step up, Yes,
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Speaker 7: Haines King.
21:51
Speaker 2: Kick of the night. Here you go, Mike Arico on
21:55
Speaker 2: NBC walk off game winning.
21:59
Speaker 3: Touch down run by Haines King, the Panther rookie who
22:04
Speaker 3: played his butt off last night. Great Final Drive had
22:08
Speaker 3: a two minute drill bone at the end of the half.
22:11
Speaker 2: They did have settle for a field goal.
22:13
Speaker 3: He did miss Jimmy Horn there, But I mean, Haines King,
22:15
Speaker 3: that was an eye opening performance last night and it
22:19
Speaker 3: must be discussed. What is the proper reaction to Haines
22:24
Speaker 3: King's performance, because it's all over, all over the place.
22:29
Speaker 3: Kenny Pickett being called out bone. The guy said, Kenny Pickett,
22:32
Speaker 3: you're on notice. And then there are people out there that,
22:35
Speaker 3: of course want to take it to Bryce Young. You
22:38
Speaker 3: should be on notice. So we've got to discuss it.
22:41
Speaker 3: It really was shot. We have to find the we
22:44
Speaker 3: have to find a middle ground here. I'll tell me,
22:46
Speaker 3: this st the right spot for this enthusiasm.
22:49
Speaker 2: You could tell how much the teammates love them though,
22:51
Speaker 2: by their joyous reaction when he scored last night. And
22:55
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you right now, it's probably hard not
22:58
Speaker 2: to love a guy that plays the game the way
23:00
Speaker 2: that he does.
23:00
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he's just a gamer man, just a gamer.
23:04
Speaker 3: Put the body of my choker, put the body on
23:07
Speaker 3: the line. Although he did slide last night, he really
23:08
Speaker 3: didn't do that much at Georgia Tech. So he did
23:10
Speaker 3: have one slide, had the wrong run. We're on third
23:13
Speaker 3: that we needed, he got out of bounds, saved the clock.
23:16
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just he's you anybody that today CEC fan,
23:20
Speaker 3: you're not really shocked by those improv plays that he made.
23:24
Speaker 3: You know, Collins work didn't mention on the broadcast, bone
23:26
Speaker 3: he did have a few moments where in college, I
23:30
Speaker 3: feel like he would have ran and he kind of
23:32
Speaker 3: bought time like Bryce does to make the pass. And
23:35
Speaker 3: it's like, Okay, that's what you got to do more of.
23:37
Speaker 3: In the NFL. It doesn't always have to be a run.
23:40
Speaker 3: Sometimes you can just scramble the pass. He also stood
23:43
Speaker 3: in the pocket bone and was dealing a bit too.
23:46
Speaker 2: Like that was that really was touchdown too that he
23:51
Speaker 2: had there. Oh that was cool. Yeah, that was that
23:53
Speaker 2: was great man. They yeah they had well, they had
23:56
Speaker 2: the read option to on the fourth and two play,
23:59
Speaker 2: right you remember that one? Oh yeah, ran that beautifully
24:03
Speaker 2: as well. I thought Higgs called some nice misdirections. He
24:06
Speaker 2: did have the miss to Horn in the end zone.
24:09
Speaker 2: But that's the thing with with Haines King that there's
24:11
Speaker 2: a lot there to build on. But for him to
24:15
Speaker 2: be a true factor in this league, it's gonna come
24:19
Speaker 2: down to the improvement in the in the passing game. Yeah,
24:22
Speaker 2: in the pocket passing game.
24:23
Speaker 3: Right, Like on structure, he's so good, was so good
24:26
Speaker 3: at Georgia Tech out of structure, and collins Worth said
24:28
Speaker 3: it last night, like JP is basically saying, I can't
24:31
Speaker 3: I can't understand why he went undrafted. Another text, this
24:35
Speaker 3: is the latest Dan Morgan undrafted. Jim, you might be
24:37
Speaker 3: right about that, he's been good in that area. But
24:40
Speaker 3: Collinsworth said it, I think you brought up in the
24:42
Speaker 3: first hour bone he basically said that he thinks this
24:46
Speaker 3: guy you can see it. Like he said he was
24:48
Speaker 3: watching some of Haines's Georgia Tech tape and he's like,
24:50
Speaker 3: in there you'll see isolated moments where it's like, oh,
24:53
Speaker 3: that's an NFL from the pocket throw.
24:55
Speaker 2: But he wasn't asked to do that as much.
24:57
Speaker 3: He was asked just go out there and make plays
24:59
Speaker 3: and find a way to George Steck to win games.
25:02
Speaker 3: But obviously so I think some people maybe took the
25:05
Speaker 3: fact bone.
25:06
Speaker 2: I think too.
25:07
Speaker 3: I think the accuracy too, is a little bit of
25:10
Speaker 3: a question, maybe the arm strength or whatever. But man,
25:12
Speaker 3: that's an encouraging start. Like he legitimately has me excited
25:17
Speaker 3: to watch him against Buffalo. Like, I'm legit, There's no
25:21
Speaker 3: way I've ever been this excited to watch a third
25:23
Speaker 3: string quarterback for the Panthers.
25:24
Speaker 2: I've never been able to sleep after a Hall of
25:27
Speaker 2: Fame game, but here we see usually I sleep during
25:29
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame game.
25:30
Speaker 3: It was it was legit exciting and you're you're right, dude,
25:34
Speaker 3: the like the amount of players that ran out there
25:36
Speaker 3: to celebrate that the guys were in there that way,
25:39
Speaker 3: that was fun.
25:39
Speaker 2: Man, that's legit fun. The game doesn't matter, but it
25:43
Speaker 2: mattered to those guys that that moment happened for last night. Yeah.
25:46
Speaker 2: And my favorite thing back and I repeat in the
25:48
Speaker 2: video when all the guys are celebrating, JJ Jansen is
25:51
Speaker 2: the one that's outside the club trying to get in
25:53
Speaker 2: the door.
25:53
Speaker 3: Hey kay wait, he should have a VIP pass in
25:56
Speaker 3: there that day and celebration got shut out. Man, Oh
25:59
Speaker 3: my goodness, care line of Mike says, told y'all king baby,
26:03
Speaker 3: This texter says, this is overreaction city.
26:06
Speaker 2: The man played against seventh stringers. All right, it's probably
26:10
Speaker 2: more like third Yeah, what is he supposed to be? Also?
26:13
Speaker 2: But he showed out though like he dominated. He dominated
26:17
Speaker 2: the game, you know what I mean? Exactly a first
26:19
Speaker 2: round pick playing against these guys. He's a guy, that's
26:22
Speaker 2: what he's That of the panther. Now here's the okay,
26:26
Speaker 2: So don't come at the King, which if you missed
26:31
Speaker 2: those defensive players missed last night for Arizona seven oh
26:35
Speaker 2: four number guys. I get your point about not wanting
26:39
Speaker 2: to overreact.
26:40
Speaker 3: Isn't it fair to say that when Sheena Quick said
26:44
Speaker 3: that Haines King at some point this season could be
26:48
Speaker 3: the backup that maybe it wasn't an exaggeration.
26:51
Speaker 2: What do you think about that statement, that's not anything crazy?
26:55
Speaker 2: How do you feel about that or or do you
26:57
Speaker 2: want to see more before you start saying that, We
26:59
Speaker 2: need to see a little bit more. But also we've
27:01
Speaker 2: seen a lot of Kenny Pickett. We know that he's limited,
27:04
Speaker 2: So I mean, I don't know if Haines King's ready
27:08
Speaker 2: to be the direct backup right now, but it's just
27:12
Speaker 2: a matter of time, I think before he probably is
27:14
Speaker 2: ready for that role.
27:15
Speaker 3: Yeah, I will meet that Texter here. I will say,
27:18
Speaker 3: like when we played that klipa Shechina. By the way,
27:20
Speaker 3: it's from the Collective podcast with Dunk and Joe Persons.
27:23
Speaker 2: It's good podcast.
27:24
Speaker 3: But when she said it, I was kind of like, yeah,
27:27
Speaker 3: she has watched a lot of practice and she's not
27:30
Speaker 3: lying about Haines has thrown it better than Kenny in camp,
27:34
Speaker 3: but Kenny's experience, I kind of thought that's not happening
27:37
Speaker 3: this year. So I will say this, I watch that
27:41
Speaker 3: and do kind of wonder is could it happen second
27:45
Speaker 3: half of the season. Like I still think they want
27:47
Speaker 3: to lean on the experience of Kenny Pickett if needed
27:51
Speaker 3: in a regular season game. I do agree with panther Bo, like,
27:54
Speaker 3: how do you keep them off the fifty three? Like
27:56
Speaker 3: if he keeps playing like this and keeps playing like
27:58
Speaker 3: he has in practice? You said it earlier or a
28:02
Speaker 3: texture did I think, like, you can't. You can't expose him.
28:05
Speaker 2: On someone's gonna gobble him up right away, especially the
28:09
Speaker 2: whole world saw last night. So he's not a guy
28:14
Speaker 2: it's hard to hide quarterbacks anyways. He's not a guy
28:16
Speaker 2: that you're just gonna be able to slip on the
28:18
Speaker 2: practice squad and hope no one notices. No, that's that's
28:21
Speaker 2: gonna be tough. And then that affects guys like AJ Dillon.
28:24
Speaker 2: Do they keep another back like Dylan or do they
28:28
Speaker 2: have to sacrifice something of that to keep Haynes king
28:31
Speaker 2: on the active rock?
28:32
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we've done it before with three, but
28:34
Speaker 3: we've also done it with two where that third guy's
28:36
Speaker 3: on the practice squad, you know, So yeah, it's going
28:40
Speaker 3: to affect you somewhere else. But earlier early thought for
28:44
Speaker 3: me is like, yeah, it's worth it. It's worth using
28:47
Speaker 3: a roster spot to make sure he's here. This dude
28:51
Speaker 3: says Kenny did nothing. King will be number two. It
28:55
Speaker 3: was a lot of short stuff from Kenny and and Kenny.
28:58
Speaker 3: It took him a third the third drive until he
29:01
Speaker 3: led a scoring drive. It was a touchdown drive, but
29:04
Speaker 3: it was really a lot of short stuff, a lot
29:05
Speaker 3: of checkdown stuff.
29:07
Speaker 2: And again it's not on him. I thought the O
29:09
Speaker 2: line played better for Haynes. I thought the early Oh
29:13
Speaker 2: line stuff was a little ugly when Kenny was in there.
29:16
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's and isn't that kind of the book? Like,
29:19
Speaker 2: I don't know if Kenny there's a reason he's with
29:21
Speaker 2: his fifteen bony. I'm not sure he gets the ball
29:24
Speaker 2: down field on the regular and he really wasn't doing
29:26
Speaker 2: that last night. Remind me last night of Kenny Pickett's
29:33
Speaker 2: kind of who he's been.
29:34
Speaker 3: Uh Cia Operation says, keep hating Mac. We don't need
29:37
Speaker 3: you cursing our new starting quarterback another Texter. Why is
29:43
Speaker 3: Mac being disrespectful of Haines King? What did you say
29:46
Speaker 3: that was disrespect.
29:47
Speaker 2: Isn't this like the third?
29:48
Speaker 3: These are like the second and third people to like say,
29:51
Speaker 3: I'm like hating or something.
29:52
Speaker 2: Georgia tech fan called his dog dogs. Yeah he's I
29:55
Speaker 2: think he said They're like, he's like family dog.
29:59
Speaker 3: I'm not sure it's not compliment. But other than that,
30:01
Speaker 3: I don't know the actual webster stuff, the definition.
30:04
Speaker 5: And I love ding dongs because they're always on sale
30:07
Speaker 5: at the Harris Teeters.
30:08
Speaker 2: Bet you.
30:11
Speaker 5: Ma does we made the list last night during the
30:13
Speaker 5: Hall of Fame.
30:15
Speaker 2: Some ding dogs fit dog is living at large, wist
30:22
Speaker 2: Will sends mama to the store. Fitty, what do you think?
30:26
Speaker 2: Do you think?
30:27
Speaker 3: I think what we're trying to do is celebrate the
30:29
Speaker 3: fact that that man that was a debut for Haines King,
30:32
Speaker 3: and man, I want to see more. And yeah, I
30:36
Speaker 3: could see Kenny Pickett having a battle on his hands.
30:38
Speaker 3: But I'm also not trying to go over like the
30:40
Speaker 3: folks trying to say Bryce should look out Like I
30:42
Speaker 3: feel like you're going overboard. What do you think, Fitty, Like,
30:45
Speaker 3: what's the what's the appropriate level of hype for Haines King?
30:49
Speaker 5: Mac? I think I'm more open to him having a
30:51
Speaker 5: legitimate shot to compete for that backup spot as the
30:55
Speaker 5: season does move along. The biggest takeaway is what Bone said,
30:59
Speaker 5: You cannot leave him on the practice squad. There will
31:01
Speaker 5: be an NFL team that will scoop him up and
31:04
Speaker 5: put him on their active roster. And remember, if you
31:09
Speaker 5: go back to the pre draft stuff, they said they
31:12
Speaker 5: wanted to get a young quarterback that they could develop,
31:16
Speaker 5: and we all thought that was Kenny Pickett because he's
31:18
Speaker 5: still a relatively young quarterback, but he has started twenty
31:21
Speaker 5: seven games. Calls brought it up. He is sixteen and
31:24
Speaker 5: eleven as a starter. This could be their project that
31:27
Speaker 5: they were talking about. It's just how do you make
31:30
Speaker 5: the math work with keeping three qbs and what position
31:36
Speaker 5: are you maybe going to be a little light in
31:39
Speaker 5: the tooth to be able to keep hands on your
31:41
Speaker 5: active rough.
31:42
Speaker 2: I think it's worth it. It's I think it's worth
31:44
Speaker 2: the two man definitely worth it because there's a role that.
31:46
Speaker 5: He could develop as the season moves along, whether it's
31:50
Speaker 5: taste the hill, we can have like a red zone package.
31:52
Speaker 5: But Mac, we know this because we watched him play
31:54
Speaker 5: in college. I was just surprised by what he did
31:57
Speaker 5: last night. Dude's a gamer, dude's a bawler. He's gonna
32:00
Speaker 5: go out there, he's gonna.
32:01
Speaker 2: Compete his ass competitor, and that's gonna make the room better.
32:05
Speaker 2: Richie says it feels like when Jake Delove came in
32:07
Speaker 2: for Rodney p. Richie's that you know the difference that
32:10
Speaker 2: game mattered. I guess Jackson, I kind of see what
32:14
Speaker 2: he's saying. But yes, but what's a different degree of
32:18
Speaker 2: game and competition? So my break noise?
32:21
Speaker 3: So who else do we need to give some love
32:23
Speaker 3: to for last night? And by the way, again if
32:26
Speaker 3: you missed it earlier, first segment of the show, first
32:28
Speaker 3: segment of seven o'clock hour was all about the game.
32:31
Speaker 3: We're trying to like balance the game and Luke today,
32:35
Speaker 3: I think aj Dillon's getting a lot of loves here.
32:37
Speaker 3: It seems like people want to see the Dylan Etn
32:41
Speaker 3: thing play out. You brought up a good point though,
32:43
Speaker 3: bone If Etn does win the return man job, that's
32:46
Speaker 3: that's a you know what I mean, that's a thing
32:48
Speaker 3: that he does that Dylan will not do.
32:50
Speaker 2: Because Dylan really did look good. Less how many return
32:54
Speaker 2: options are there because not every guy does all the
32:56
Speaker 2: returns stuff like ETN game right.
32:58
Speaker 3: It's him and Horn. But although jessem Reid and uh
33:02
Speaker 3: Met She had nice kick returns. I was surprised to
33:03
Speaker 3: see them back there. All the receives I'm not all
33:06
Speaker 3: the receivers, but like so many of those receivers, Jimmy
33:09
Speaker 3: Horn is a guy we've kind of questioned in training camp.
33:11
Speaker 2: Is he in danger of not making it?
33:12
Speaker 3: He really made tough catches and should have had a
33:15
Speaker 3: touchdown if Kenny would have hit him. He had a
33:17
Speaker 3: hell of a game. Jesse him Reid did have a drop,
33:20
Speaker 3: but did have a couple of catches and a touchdown.
33:23
Speaker 3: Mechi met she had a damn good game, and he's
33:25
Speaker 3: had a quiet camp. So those guys were playing. I
33:28
Speaker 3: thought in Coombe flashed the corners. There were some rough stuff.
33:32
Speaker 3: Our guy, which one you're talking Corey Thornton. I thought
33:37
Speaker 3: it was a lot of down. Yeah, well for Corey
33:39
Speaker 3: will Lee definitely up and down.
33:40
Speaker 5: We had to play before he gave the touchdown where
33:43
Speaker 5: you know he blitzed he forced back to throw the
33:45
Speaker 5: ball into.
33:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right he did on that slot blitch and
33:47
Speaker 2: then the very.
33:47
Speaker 5: Next play he got picked on, and then the blanket
33:53
Speaker 5: was I covering a whole lot last time.
33:55
Speaker 2: He got swaddled at one boy, I mean, he just
33:59
Speaker 2: got mean burd toast. Isn't even I don't thinking enough
34:03
Speaker 2: for that one? That's a welcome to the NFL.
34:05
Speaker 3: Man, Like this double move here, like in college, you
34:07
Speaker 3: might have been right when you jumped that, but maybe not.
34:10
Speaker 2: He We all just praise him for a previous play
34:12
Speaker 2: and then he just got smoked.
34:13
Speaker 3: But you know what, that's exactly what Canalis said when
34:17
Speaker 3: he was when he had a big practice, or it
34:18
Speaker 3: might have been fan fest and people wanted like him
34:21
Speaker 3: to praise Will Lee, and he said, Will's had a
34:24
Speaker 3: rookie camp. He has made plays, but he has given
34:28
Speaker 3: up plays. So that, like, I feel like last night
34:30
Speaker 3: was very similar to will to Will Lee. Caleb Evans
34:34
Speaker 3: really got toasted man. But Ransom did make that dude
34:36
Speaker 3: pay for his catch.
34:37
Speaker 4: He did.
34:39
Speaker 2: When we come back, you're gonna hear the Panther fans owed,
34:42
Speaker 2: Oh shoot, real quick, I'm sorry, bone your boy Wheatley.
34:45
Speaker 2: Your boy Wheatley had eight tackles and forced to fumble.
34:48
Speaker 3: We hadn't mentioned him yet, All right, my bad, go ahead, bone,
34:52
Speaker 3: I swear I'm done now, Bonu.
34:53
Speaker 2: You you interrupted that for Wheatly. I just we hadn't
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Speaker 2: mentioned him. I felt like this might be my last chance.
34:58
Speaker 2: You know, you need to go out a bull's right now,
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Speaker 2: think about what you just did.
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Speaker 5: Not bad.
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Speaker 2: I couldn't help myself as I was saying, Panther fans
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Speaker 2: owed to Luke that we've been calling for. Is up next?
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Speaker 2: We have a TV broadcast moment the last Night featuring Luke,
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Speaker 2: Greg and Bryce, and we're gonna get a live report
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Speaker 2: from Canton from the one and only with Panther Steve.
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Speaker 2: This is max Idea Sports Radio ninety two seven, WFNZ.
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Speaker 3: Sports Radio ninety two seven, WFNZ Back and Bone with you.
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Speaker 3: What a fun day, What a fun day. We got
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Speaker 3: king Mania going on. Baby, We've got Luke Mania happening.
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Speaker 3: It's Luca Palooza and we're gonna get a live report
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Speaker 3: from our fan correspondent, Panther Steve Panther Weeney as he
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Speaker 3: is now affectionately called by the Mack and Bone Show.
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Speaker 2: He was in the end zone where Haines King ran
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Speaker 2: into last night.
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Speaker 3: He's got a great video of it. So we're did
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Speaker 3: check and see how to Panther fan party is going
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Speaker 3: in Canada. He's like in the end zone seats, Yes,
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Speaker 3: in a seat, it's not actually standing.
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Speaker 2: In the vay.
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Speaker 3: No clarify, but first let's do this Bone. We have
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Speaker 3: this awesome feature that we all just learned about. Around
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Speaker 3: here on our app where you can there's a microphone
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Speaker 3: that you can hit on the app bottom of the
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Speaker 3: homepage and leave a less than thirty second message. And
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Speaker 3: we can use this moving forward, I'm sure, but we
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Speaker 3: used it this week. For all your salutes to Luke Man.
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Speaker 3: You know what, give us your best Luke chant tell
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Speaker 3: us what you loved about Luke. Send a message out
36:39
Speaker 3: there to Luke about why he's so great.
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Speaker 2: So here it is, Fitty. Put a ton of them together.
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Speaker 4: This is the.
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Speaker 2: Wfn Z Panther Nation, and they're ode to Luke.
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Speaker 8: Twenty twelve Defensive Rookie of the Year, twenty thirteen Defensive
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Speaker 8: Player of the Year, five time All Pro, more than
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Speaker 8: one thousand career tackles, and now a gold jacket.
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Speaker 6: Not only was Luke an amazing linebacker all the way around,
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Speaker 6: but my brother saw him in the aquatic center post
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Speaker 6: football time and he said, what are you doing, Luke?
37:13
Speaker 6: He said, I'm training for an ironman. So Luke is
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Speaker 6: just a beast all around. He's a great panther and
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Speaker 6: he's an iron man. Luca's the best out.
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Speaker 5: Luke Pasley was the best linebacker I've ever seen play.
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Speaker 1: Hell, he was so good.
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Speaker 5: Three pretended aj klyin with him.
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Speaker 7: Boo.
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Speaker 5: Hall of Famer baby, Congratulations on your Hall of Fame induction.
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Speaker 2: Well deserved.
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Speaker 4: Top five linebacker of.
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Speaker 2: All time and it was like you were in the
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Speaker 2: huddle with the other team every play.
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Speaker 5: There might never be another Panther linebacker like Loo.
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Speaker 9: Congratulations Luke on the Hall of Fame. Thanks for always
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Speaker 9: making Panther football so much fun to want. We are
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Speaker 9: so proud of you and you are the absolute best
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Speaker 9: representative of keep pounding. Congratulations.
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Speaker 1: That's the goat, Baby, keep pounding. Hall Fame grown for
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Speaker 1: a Hall Tame player.
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Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, salu to you, Luke Man.
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Speaker 10: What a career, what a person. Panther Nations so proud
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Speaker 10: of you. Fan guy Dave here, I just want to say,
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Speaker 10: how do we pick one memory out of a Hall
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Speaker 10: of Fame career?
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Speaker 2: But I'll do it.
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Speaker 10: Twenty fifteen Divisional game against Seattle at home. I've been
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Speaker 10: a part of a lot of crowd pops. Second to
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Speaker 10: last row. I was sitting that picks sick against Russell
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Speaker 10: Wilson might be the loudest crowd pop I've ever been
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Speaker 10: a part.
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Speaker 1: Of upper deck.
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Speaker 10: With shaking, I started seeing stars. I grabbed the scene
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Speaker 10: in front of me.
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Speaker 2: What a career. Congrats lup Hey Loop.
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Speaker 11: This is a loyal FNZ listener. Who's your Bobby calling
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Speaker 11: to wish you congratulations on your induction to the Hall
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Speaker 11: of Fame.
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Speaker 2: I love watching every snap.
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Speaker 11: You're the epitome of keep Pounding, and I will proudly
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Speaker 11: wear my autograph Luke Keithley Jersey on Saturday. Can't wait
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Speaker 11: to see your induction and your speech. Thanks for all
39:31
Speaker 11: the great memories and congratulations, Luke.
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Speaker 12: You changed the face of the Panthers from the first
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Speaker 12: moment you stepped on the field as a rookie. One
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Speaker 12: of my favorite memories is watching the Thanksgiving Day game
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Speaker 12: with my cowboy loving in laws and you just sitting
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Speaker 12: there taking them to town. Before you, I think people
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Speaker 12: thought of a cerebral player as somebody like Peyton Manning,
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Speaker 12: but you changed that for the entire league. You're my
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Speaker 12: daughter's favorite player and so deserving to be in the
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Speaker 12: Hall of Fame. I'm very happy for you, Keith Pounding.
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Speaker 5: Two thirds of the world was covered by water, the
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Speaker 5: other third was covered by lou Congratulations on the Hall
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Speaker 5: of Fame in dubt keep Bounding.
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Speaker 13: My favorite Luke KEI clean moment is going to practice
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Speaker 13: and waiting to have him sign stuff.
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Speaker 4: For me.
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Speaker 13: And there was these two kids beside me wanting to
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Speaker 13: get signed stuff as well, and a guy beside us
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Speaker 13: trying to get stuff signed to sell. And he told
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Speaker 13: the guy was trying to sell stuff to get out
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Speaker 13: of there so they get autographs.
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Speaker 8: Love it from all of us at w f n
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Speaker 8: Z and across the Carolina's congratulations Louke Kickley on being
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Speaker 8: forever enshrined in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
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Speaker 2: Awesome, awesome on the s that sounded like a cavey
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Speaker 2: of ducent eyes gral is interesting.
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Speaker 3: Apparently the fourteen second Luke was panther bow I didn't
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Speaker 3: even realize, Yeah, he's on your taking credit. He's all
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Speaker 3: to your taking credit for it. Oh that was good,
41:09
Speaker 3: good stories, good stuff in there. Love it And somebody says, man,
41:13
Speaker 3: y'all could use that feature as new winer line. There's
41:15
Speaker 3: definitely possibilities because it seems pretty easy on the app,
41:19
Speaker 3: you know, just to leave these messages, So there's we're
41:21
Speaker 3: definitely gonna have to make use of that. That was
41:23
Speaker 3: pretty cool. We also, Bone, I feel like are gonna
41:26
Speaker 3: have to make use of this next guy. I think
41:29
Speaker 3: you and I agree Bone. He is a budding radio
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Speaker 3: correspondent just waiting to agree on.
41:34
Speaker 2: But the abilities of Panther Win is certainly one of
41:37
Speaker 2: the best, certainly one of them.
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Speaker 3: Panther Steve, he was our correspondent in Germany. We think
41:42
Speaker 3: he was probably hungover from German beer. That's maybe the
41:47
Speaker 3: case here today. But he is going to tell us
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Speaker 3: what the Panther parties have been like in Canton. He
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Speaker 3: was in the end zone seats as Haines King ran
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Speaker 3: it in. He's got a great video up on Twitter
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Speaker 3: of it. He is Panther Steve aka Panther Weeney with
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Speaker 3: us here, our live correspondent from Camp Weedie.
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Speaker 2: What's going on, baby, Hey, what's up?
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Speaker 4: What's up? Fell?
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Speaker 2: How you feeling today? Man? You hurting? How much partying
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Speaker 2: happened last night?
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Speaker 4: But my wife says, t bum better start calling me Pantherween.
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Speaker 4: But she's gonna come down there and slap them.
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Speaker 2: Oh, that's just what your name is on the text
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Speaker 2: line currently. You don't think that, you don't think that's
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Speaker 2: gonna catch me? Brother to love it's it's out of love.
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Speaker 2: It's a term of It's what brothers do. Man, they squabble.
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Speaker 1: We have squab from the hotte.
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Speaker 7: You know.
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Speaker 4: I'm in the workout room because we're right next to
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Speaker 4: a highway, so I can't go outside. My wife is
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Speaker 4: sleeping upstairs. People are eating the breakfast room. There's a
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Speaker 4: lady Panther fan in the swimming pool area, which is
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Speaker 4: right next to the workout room. Look at that.
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Speaker 2: Look at that to ask her if you said go
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Speaker 2: for Fidty place. Dude, Yeah, you're gonna have a blast
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Speaker 2: on Saturday. So what is like to what what is
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Speaker 2: the Panther fan contingent? Like? Like, are the Panther nation
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Speaker 2: representing the.
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Speaker 4: Ring right representing hear? Yeah, got a great job here.
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Speaker 4: We partied last night. Everybody stayed for the final play
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Speaker 4: of the game. Everybody else left, but all the Panther
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Speaker 4: fans were still there, so it was great.
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Speaker 2: So are you going to I assume you're going to
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Speaker 2: the ceremony? Also, are you going to that?
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Speaker 4: Yeah? I can't wait. That's tomorrow and we're gonna go
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Speaker 4: to the Hall of Fame I've ever been. We're gonna
43:42
Speaker 4: check that out today. Nice it's kind of raining right
43:44
Speaker 4: now and h then later tonight we got the Golden
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Speaker 4: Jacket Dinner, the gold Jacket Dinner.
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Speaker 2: Are you you got an invite to the gold Jacket
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Speaker 2: Dinner or like fans are allowed to go to this?
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Speaker 4: We had to pay extra for it.
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Speaker 2: Oh shoot, I didn't know fans could go to that.
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Speaker 2: You get to try if you pay? Do you get
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Speaker 2: to try it off? What's your outfit? What's your outfit?
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Speaker 5: Oh?
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Speaker 4: I got a cowboy hat, panther cowboy hat. I got
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Speaker 4: a panther jacket. I'll be wearing my new hyphon black boots.
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Speaker 4: I'll be looking sweet.
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Speaker 2: You should go to your German outfit.
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Speaker 4: But I'm hoping i'd get to meet Joseyfizmann in Kurt Warner.
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Speaker 4: That's what I'm looking forward.
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Speaker 2: Why are those two your guys that you want to meet?
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Speaker 4: Well, I grew up a redskin fan of Charlotte when
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Speaker 4: I was little.
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Speaker 2: All right, we will hold that against you.
44:34
Speaker 4: Why Kurt Warner, he's just the great guy quarterback.
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Speaker 2: People want to know what's the condent of breakfast while
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Speaker 2: I at the hotel.
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Speaker 4: It's pretty good. They brought out fresh fruit, watermelon, candle
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Speaker 4: loop and grape.
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Speaker 3: He is taking us right into this hotel. Man, we
44:51
Speaker 3: feel like we're there. What were you drinking? What were
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Speaker 3: the beverages of choice last night? At the Panther fantail
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Speaker 3: game this plag.
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Speaker 4: Called Jersey shout out of it great? Uh you know
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Speaker 4: Party four, you know, supplied the food and alcohol and
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Speaker 4: I was drinking Margarita's And then we get a serene
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Speaker 4: just shot of Jiller. Did you see that? I posted that?
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Speaker 3: Oh, I'll check that out. I'll check that out. Rev
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Speaker 3: keV wants to know. Is this is this Panther Steve's
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Speaker 3: first time in a gym? It's cold, man.
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Speaker 4: My younger days, I used to work out a lot.
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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, there you go, baby, let's see. All right,
45:32
Speaker 3: Well that's a hell of a report. This texture says
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Speaker 3: Panther Steve needs to be a regular. Another texter says,
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Speaker 3: this dude will always be Panther weeny to me. Here's
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Speaker 3: what a texter says.
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Speaker 2: That may stick. Man, I don't know.
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Speaker 4: Can I give a shout out to my brother. He's
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Speaker 4: a lawyer in Matthews and uh, Mike with your wife.
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Speaker 4: Every wants to keep you to the curb.
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Speaker 2: He can hire him okay, I'll pass that along. I'll
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Speaker 2: pass that right along. That's your brother's name.
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Speaker 3: There you go, Bill, Bill Weeny, everybody, the attorney at
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Speaker 3: lall everybody, what's his last name?
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Speaker 2: Bill?
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Speaker 12: What?
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Speaker 2: All right?
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Speaker 3: Oh that's right, that's true. I should have been dumb Mac.
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Speaker 3: All right, all right, Stevie, we appreciate you brother, thanks
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Speaker 3: for checking in. Have fun man and uh and thanks
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Speaker 3: for the insight.
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Speaker 4: Well thanks, guys, I appreciate it.
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Speaker 2: All right, Well there you go, alright, Panther wit Steve
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Speaker 2: ween feel free to get you know, maybe some more
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Speaker 2: than just fruit and breakfast. There, Ween, that was that
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Speaker 2: was a very very do I say it, a very
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Speaker 2: boring breakfast answer, and no one wanted to hear about fruit.
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Speaker 3: You got a fruit? I want to know if you
46:46
Speaker 3: got some dang scrambled eggs. I want to know yet,
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Speaker 3: do they make those dust eggs?
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Speaker 2: I want to know where? What's the one at the
46:51
Speaker 2: waffle make sausage bacon? What's going on? Baby? Yeah? Waffles?
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Speaker 5: Is the girl in the pool actually single one?
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Speaker 4: If so?
46:57
Speaker 5: Can Panther Steve be a good wing man?
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Speaker 2: This texture is Panther Steve? Why were you laughing?
47:02
Speaker 3: Bone was probably dead serious he wanted you to you
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Speaker 3: to try to get fiddy a girlfriend.
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Speaker 2: I wanted him to.
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Speaker 5: I wanted him to figure out her.
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Speaker 2: We should we you know, we should have should join
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Speaker 2: the roaring riot. That should be something. You have a blast, dude,
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Speaker 2: you have a blast.
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Speaker 3: They're going to every road game, Chris Harmon said, they're
47:19
Speaker 3: planning to go to every road game this year, join
47:21
Speaker 3: and travel around. Do you you know what we should
47:25
Speaker 3: have done?
47:25
Speaker 4: Though?
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Speaker 2: We should have, like for radio sake, literally been like,
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Speaker 2: go over and tell that girl that ask her if
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Speaker 2: she like that should have happened on the air.
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Speaker 5: As missed opportunity.
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Speaker 2: This is what needs Is she breathing? All right? Check one?
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Speaker 2: Did she single? Check too? Let's go she doesn't have
47:44
Speaker 2: to be single. I prefer I thought you were gonna
47:47
Speaker 2: say she shoudn't have to be breathing. You can't go,
47:50
Speaker 2: Oh my god. You gotta get to the point where
47:54
Speaker 2: if she's breathing and she's single, you can't be picky anymore.
47:58
Speaker 2: At this point, what are you You're approaching thousand days right,
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Speaker 2: feels like it's this point.
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Speaker 5: It's like when Moses was in the wilderness.
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Speaker 2: Oh man, when we come back, it's time for more
48:10
Speaker 2: WUG appreciation. Is he the best linebacker of our lifetime?
48:14
Speaker 2: And what are your favorite Luke moments ever? On Sports
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Speaker 2: Radio ninety two seven