Latest / Sid & Friends In The Morning / David Paterson | 06-19-26
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- 0:00Speaker 1: It's Juneteenth today it's gutee. And in honor of Juneteenth,
- 0:03Speaker 1: we got Governor David Patterson's tell us what it's all about,
- 0:07Speaker 1: and me and David Pattison Dominic Carter on Wednesday, and
- 0:11Speaker 1: we didn't talk about Juneteenth that day. We all were
- 0:16Speaker 1: addressing and George Venizellis was there too, and we were
- 0:21Speaker 1: addressing the one hundred Black men, and Governor David Patterson
- 0:26Speaker 1: tell us about one hundred black men.
- 0:27Speaker 2: The conference we had, well, the one hundred Black Men
- 0:31Speaker 2: were founded. The organization was founded in the late fifties
- 0:35Speaker 2: by Jackie Robinson, who had just retired from Major League Baseball,
- 0:41Speaker 2: and David Dinkins, who inevitably would become mayor of the
- 0:44Speaker 2: City of New York, and Percy Sutton, who became the
- 0:48Speaker 2: only black owner of a radio station. So they really
- 0:51Speaker 2: wanted to have a high profile, prestigious organization that could
- 0:56Speaker 2: challenge at times the government or the school system them
- 1:00Speaker 2: or whoever was getting in the way of denying African
- 1:04Speaker 2: American boys and girls at the right education that they
- 1:08Speaker 2: should get. And obviously, when people grew up, the types
- 1:11Speaker 2: of jobs they could get, and what I've always thought
- 1:14Speaker 2: was incredible about them, John, is that they are the
- 1:18Speaker 2: most polite, wonderful people the way they treated us the
- 1:21Speaker 2: other day, And I just have always been proud I
- 1:25Speaker 2: was a member, but I had to get out at
- 1:28Speaker 2: one point while I was governor because every time they
- 1:30Speaker 2: had an event, they thought I should come to it,
- 1:32Speaker 2: and I couldn't do that. And they've done it quietly,
- 1:38Speaker 2: without demagogueing the leadership of this country or anyplace else.
- 1:44Speaker 2: And that's when you want to make change, That's the
- 1:47Speaker 2: way to make change.
- 1:49Speaker 3: Governor. We were trying to figure out the origin of Juneteenth.
- 1:53Speaker 3: Now I think that the official thing is that this
- 1:56Speaker 3: is when the last of the African American slaves were
- 1:59Speaker 3: free to the end of the Civil War. Are there
- 2:02Speaker 3: other incidents, other moments in history that Juneteenth is supposed
- 2:05Speaker 3: to be marking.
- 2:07Speaker 2: Well, you know, because we didn't have radio and television
- 2:12Speaker 2: and phones and the type of communication that we have now,
- 2:17Speaker 2: much of how Juneteenth began may never really be known.
- 2:22Speaker 2: But what I think in the last few years people
- 2:25Speaker 2: have agreed upon is this day in June, which does
- 2:29Speaker 2: correspond to what was apparently the final release of slaves
- 2:34Speaker 2: in eighteen sixty six.
- 2:38Speaker 3: Okay, so, but is it supposed to be a celebration,
- 2:41Speaker 3: because if it's a celebration, that makes a lot of sense,
- 2:44Speaker 3: and we're certainly marking the stain of slavery on the
- 2:48Speaker 3: nation's history. But is it supposed to be more of
- 2:50Speaker 3: a celebration or more of a day of repentance.
- 2:55Speaker 2: I think it's a celebration in the sense that these
- 2:59Speaker 2: individuals who were finally freed never thought they'd ever be free.
- 3:03Speaker 2: So there was a lot to celebrate now in terms
- 3:06Speaker 2: of why it took so long to free some of
- 3:09Speaker 2: the slaves after the South declined in the Civil War
- 3:15Speaker 2: was over. You know, that's just an example of continued
- 3:20Speaker 2: mistreatment of people who never did anything to hurt anybody.
- 3:24Speaker 3: That's right, you know, you and I you know, we go,
- 3:29Speaker 3: we go every weekend on the left fers is the right,
- 3:32Speaker 3: and we talk about a lot of different different topics
- 3:34Speaker 3: and we really get into history a lot, which is
- 3:36Speaker 3: a lot of fun. And of course this isn't a
- 3:38Speaker 3: history based federal holiday now that started in twenty twenty one.
- 3:43Speaker 3: You know, talk about how slavery hurt more than just
- 3:47Speaker 3: the soul of the nation, but you know, the economics
- 3:50Speaker 3: of the nation. You know, I'm making some of these
- 3:52Speaker 3: history moments, talking about, for example, the Transcontinental Railroad, which
- 3:56Speaker 3: didn't run through the South because Lincoln couldn't run it
- 3:59Speaker 3: through the South, which would be an easier geographically type path.
- 4:02Speaker 3: I mean, slavery didn't actually help the economy of the South.
- 4:06Speaker 1: It didn't.
- 4:07Speaker 3: I mean, obviously the slaves helped build the economy of
- 4:09Speaker 3: this South, but they could have done a lot more.
- 4:11Speaker 3: Have they been paid laborers?
- 4:12Speaker 2: Correct, Jake. I've never heard anybody put it as succinctly
- 4:19Speaker 2: as you just did. That's exactly what happened. And even
- 4:24Speaker 2: in one hundred years later, segregation. While the Southerners, you know,
- 4:31Speaker 2: enjoyed the fact that they could ride the buses without
- 4:35Speaker 2: any black people on them, those economies of those states Alabama, Georgia,
- 4:42Speaker 2: you know, North and South Carolina, Tennessee, all of them,
- 4:46Speaker 2: their economies were in the toilet because of the segregation
- 4:51Speaker 2: that they continued after World War Two, when a lot
- 4:55Speaker 2: of the other states had basically given it up. So
- 4:58Speaker 2: you couldn't be more making news.
- 5:01Speaker 1: Israel and Hezbollah renewed cease fire. So does that mean
- 5:05Speaker 1: the Iran talks are back on again. They didn't even
- 5:08Speaker 1: take the weekend off hour ago, John, they didn't take
- 5:11Speaker 1: the weekend off. I mean, I'm sitting I'm shot shot
- 5:14Speaker 1: this gambling in this place.
- 5:16Speaker 2: Yes, John, I heard it was breaking news that I
- 5:19Speaker 2: heard an hour ago that they were back at each
- 5:22Speaker 2: other's throats and that Iran was closing the straits of
- 5:25Speaker 2: her moves. You know, I just think that there was
- 5:30Speaker 2: a better way to negotiate this. And the one thing
- 5:33Speaker 2: you have to do when you are the United States,
- 5:37Speaker 2: who are the people who are trying to create freedom
- 5:40Speaker 2: for others all around the world, is you've got to
- 5:43Speaker 2: have some of these negotiations right out in the open,
- 5:46Speaker 2: because they would really expose what Iran is doing. What
- 5:49Speaker 2: they basically did is they let the president have this negotiation.
- 5:53Speaker 2: They waited about twenty four hours, and then they're picking
- 5:56Speaker 2: and choosing and saying that we already violated it. Sam,
- 5:59Speaker 2: really sorry.
- 6:00Speaker 1: But they will not attack. They will not attack a
- 6:05Speaker 1: vessel because they know that if they attack a vessel
- 6:10Speaker 1: that Trump is going to go back at them double coupunts.
- 6:14Speaker 2: But John, their mentality is so much different than ours.
- 6:21Speaker 2: It would be like right up their alley to go
- 6:23Speaker 2: and do something like that, because we wouldn't expect it.
- 6:27Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised if they did it.
- 6:29Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I have an I have an idea, because
- 6:31Speaker 3: this scene keeps changing. I think we should have Joe
- 6:34Speaker 3: Nolan do reports on these ceasefires being on and off
- 6:36Speaker 3: like he does traffic reports, because it's every ten minutes.
- 6:40Speaker 3: You know, I don't want more work.
- 6:43Speaker 1: You gotta tune into w ABC because it's hour by hour,
- 6:47Speaker 1: hour by hour.
- 6:49Speaker 3: I think we should do it like traffic reports, the
- 6:51Speaker 3: current on or off as well. Yeah, there's there's a
- 6:55Speaker 3: backup on the l I A and the ceasefires on.
- 6:57Speaker 3: That's that's that's the kind of reports we need, and
- 6:59Speaker 3: that's the that's the frequency of it, you know. But
- 7:04Speaker 3: you know, all joking aside. The Democrats running for office,
- 7:08Speaker 3: even here in New York City are running as if
- 7:10Speaker 3: they're running for office in Gaza. We have this star
- 7:13Speaker 3: a Liza Chevalier, and all they do is talk about
- 7:17Speaker 3: Gaza and the Palestinians. What about getting better jobs and
- 7:20Speaker 3: getting the subways to run better? I mean, it's amazing.
- 7:23Speaker 2: Oh my god, I just saw a commercial from obviously
- 7:26Speaker 2: a Democrat who's running. I guess he's running for I
- 7:29Speaker 2: don't even they never really said what he's running for.
- 7:32Speaker 2: He's telling Trump that he's going to be impeached. And
- 7:35Speaker 2: they showed a picture of the Capitol, this is where
- 7:37Speaker 2: they're gonna hold the hearings, and that kind of thing.
- 7:39Speaker 2: There is really a misguided sense that is pervasive in
- 7:44Speaker 2: the Democratic Party. And I'm happy to hear that one
- 7:49Speaker 2: of Obama's people that you know, helped him run campaigns
- 7:54Speaker 2: and that kind of thing is back in the city
- 7:56Speaker 2: and starting to talk to other Democrats. Judge Weinberg and
- 8:00Speaker 2: I have talked about putting a group of people together.
- 8:04Speaker 2: It's starting to look silly. It's starting to look ridiculous.
- 8:07Speaker 2: We're looking as ridiculous now as the people who ran
- 8:10Speaker 2: those southern states back in the citties.
- 8:13Speaker 3: It's not this, it's not our issue.
- 8:15Speaker 4: It's crazy, Governor. So I have to say, we have
- 8:19Speaker 4: a lot of work to do to try to restore
- 8:21Speaker 4: a Democratic party in this city, in this state, in
- 8:23Speaker 4: this country, to sounding and common sense, because the momentum
- 8:27Speaker 4: seems to be on the part of the Democratic Socialists
- 8:30Speaker 4: and Islamis, and how do we handle this and how
- 8:33Speaker 4: and as Jake has pointed out, how do we wake
- 8:35Speaker 4: up the people and we talked to the Congressman King
- 8:37Speaker 4: about this. Wake up the people to what's happened to
- 8:39Speaker 4: Democratic Party, because if the Democratic Party has lost its soul,
- 8:43Speaker 4: it will hurt America.
- 8:46Speaker 2: It's obviously a conversation you and I've had a few times,
- 8:51Speaker 2: but I do think that some people have got to
- 8:54Speaker 2: start standing up and taking them on. And if you
- 8:58Speaker 2: take them on in the right venue, most reasonable people
- 9:02Speaker 2: will find some of these antics to be callow and
- 9:07Speaker 2: purele and completely against what the whole idea of government
- 9:11Speaker 2: and even the whole idea of having elections and political
- 9:15Speaker 2: parties is about.
- 9:18Speaker 3: You know this is, but that's the thing, Governor. The
- 9:22Speaker 3: average Democrat voter, especially over the age of forty, doesn't
- 9:27Speaker 3: know this, doesn't know that this is what's happened. And
- 9:29Speaker 3: the reason is they get the wool poll over their
- 9:31Speaker 3: eyes because all they hear is were anti Trump, Trump, Trump,
- 9:35Speaker 3: Trump Trump. So they can say they're anti Trump and
- 9:37Speaker 3: get away with things like defund the police fund, got
- 9:40Speaker 3: fun camas and and do things like I mean, Trump
- 9:44Speaker 3: has become this incredible decoy for what the Democrats want
- 9:49Speaker 3: to do. And at some point Trump's going to leave
- 9:53Speaker 3: office eventually, and they're not going to have him to
- 9:55Speaker 3: beat up anymore and will and will be too late
- 9:57Speaker 3: by then.
- 9:58Speaker 2: Trump has been the best generator of opportunity for socialists
- 10:05Speaker 2: that we've had. In other words, he becomes the fall guy.
- 10:09Speaker 2: They yell and scream about him, and then even on
- 10:14Speaker 2: those occasions where some of them have been able to
- 10:16Speaker 2: win elections. And uh, I was told by a pretty
- 10:22Speaker 2: good source that you know that does polling that the
- 10:26Speaker 2: election for Congress in Harlem, where John grew up and
- 10:31Speaker 2: where I went to school, uh is a tilting in
- 10:36Speaker 2: favor of the socialist candidate and not the regular Democratic candidate,
- 10:42Speaker 2: who is Adriano. Espayat has been a fine congressman in
- 10:45Speaker 2: this couple of years. She's from Congress and Rangel She's worse.
- 10:49Speaker 4: She's worse than a socialist. She's an Islamist, she's anti American.
- 10:54Speaker 4: She's a very dangerous character.
- 10:58Speaker 3: Uh yeah, I mean, what can I that man?
- 11:04Speaker 4: Okay, So, David.
- 11:08Speaker 1: Records, you gotta take a break. That gave you.
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