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Ohio State Football: And The Pick Is Almost In... · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: The Buckeyes tomorrow morning. It's Tuesday, April twenty second. The
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  Speaker 1: of Buckeyes Tomorrow Morning, we're going to jump to my show,
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  Speaker 1: which is the Big Me Kickoff, and the NFL Draft
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  Speaker 1: is this week, so I am taking a look and
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  Speaker 1: previewing the upcoming draft where more than a dozen Buckeyes
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  Speaker 1: are hoping to hear their names called. Earlier the better.
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  Speaker 1: But I'll get all into that as we jump over
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  Speaker 1: to the Big Me Kickoff. Here, I'm Buckeyehuddle dot com.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Big Meekickoff. I am your Kevin Noon.
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  Speaker 1: It is April twenty first. Been a hot minute since
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  Speaker 1: I have seen y'all. Now, of course, you have seen
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  Speaker 1: me on Buckys tomorrow morning. You've seen me on Buckeye Weekly.
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  Speaker 1: There's just been a minute since I have done my
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  Speaker 1: own show, and obviously we are not going live today.
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  Speaker 1: Look for a live show coming later this week. I
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  Speaker 1: promise you one is coming up. But we are to
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  Speaker 1: NFL Draft week. And those of you who've watched the
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  Speaker 1: show through the years know that I love the NFL Draft.
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  Speaker 1: It is one of my favorite things out there. Got
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of frog in my throat, I apologize
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  Speaker 1: in advance. I am trying to not cough on everybody.
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  Speaker 1: The draft is really the culmination of the journey. We
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  Speaker 1: start talking to the kids when they're in high school.
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  Speaker 1: Some of them go to Ohio State, some of them
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  Speaker 1: go on to play, some of them go on to start,
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  Speaker 1: some of them go on to be stars, and then
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  Speaker 1: some of them go on to the NFL. So this
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  Speaker 1: is the end of the journey. I talk to hundreds
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  Speaker 1: of kids every year based on this process, and the
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  Speaker 1: number is getting smaller each year as I am not
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  Speaker 1: on the road as much. That is more Mark than myself,
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  Speaker 1: but I still do talk to a lot of kids.
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  Speaker 1: Oh by the way, Southern Swing is coming up, so
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  Speaker 1: be ready for that. That's generally where I talk to
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  Speaker 1: the vast majority, But then again at Ohio State camps
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  Speaker 1: as well. So we are now down to fifteen sixteen
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  Speaker 1: Buckeyes that could be drafted. Now, the argument could be made, well,
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  Speaker 1: why isn't this guy being mentioned or that guy being mentioned? Well,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not seeing them in mock drafts. That doesn't mean
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  Speaker 1: that they can't go the undrafted free agent route, don't.
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  Speaker 1: They can't make a team, absolutely can. But we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: talk about the guys in the mock drafts here because
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  Speaker 1: that's where I'm at right now. How much of the
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  Speaker 1: NFL draft are you going to watch? It's over three
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  Speaker 1: nights or two nights in a day. Round one is
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  Speaker 1: one day two and three is the next, and four
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  Speaker 1: five sixty seven is the final day. The first night,
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  Speaker 1: it's one hundred percent focused on the kids, not a
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  Speaker 1: lot of screwing around, backslapping all that. Day two is
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  Speaker 1: still pretty much on focus on point. Then Day three
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  Speaker 1: we get the adoptable puppies, we get the fans screaming
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  Speaker 1: their picks in. It's not the best television in my opinion,
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  Speaker 1: So you know, I am going to watch as much
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  Speaker 1: of it as possible. I mowed the lawn this past weekend,
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  Speaker 1: on Easter Sunday, I mowed the lawn so I can
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  Speaker 1: watch the draft. I'm going to have to mow the
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  Speaker 1: law on one more time before Southern Swing. Southern Swing.
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  Speaker 1: As you know, maybe you don't, maybe you're new a
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  Speaker 1: couple weeks. Generally, it started off as a week and
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  Speaker 1: basically the way Southern Swing. And I don't mean to
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  Speaker 1: be getting away from the point deep teasing. Yes we'll
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  Speaker 1: be talking about the draft eventually, but you know, Southern Swing,
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  Speaker 1: Mark and I get on the road. It started because
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  Speaker 1: we were not getting enough Ohio state information on a
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  Speaker 1: lot of these kids. So we could do one of
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  Speaker 1: two things. We could complain which fell on deaf ears,
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  Speaker 1: or we could go on our own. We could just
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  Speaker 1: go on our own, go get the kids, ask twenty
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  Speaker 1: questions about Ohio state, asked no questions about Alabama. If
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  Speaker 1: we wanted to do that, it was our own, on
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  Speaker 1: our own dime. We we was coming out of our
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  Speaker 1: own budget, so why not. So that is coming up.
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  Speaker 1: Look forward to its coming up here at bucke huddle
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  Speaker 1: every month, every year. But really coming up here first
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  Speaker 1: the month. That's about as much as I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: say about when Southern swing is going to be. You'll
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  Speaker 1: find out when I kind of find out. I need
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  Speaker 1: to find out that I don't know the dates. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know the dates, and I'm going on the trip.
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  Speaker 1: I've got to know the dates so I can make
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  Speaker 1: sure somebody's here to watch my obnoxious cat. But keep
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  Speaker 1: it locked in here all right to the draft. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm noticing that the lighting in this room is really bad.
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  Speaker 1: I need to start doing this backup in my office.
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  Speaker 1: I will maybe probably the draft starts on the twenty sixth,
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  Speaker 1: something like that. It's Thursday, Friday, Saturday, I believe. And
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  Speaker 1: it's all about, you know, getting drafted as highly as possible,
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  Speaker 1: more money if you are in a if you're in
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  Speaker 1: a first round pick, you get the there's a team
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  Speaker 1: option for a fifth year. By the way, Garrett Wilson
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  Speaker 1: just had his fifth year picked up by the Jets,
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  Speaker 1: no surprise to anyone on there. There is so much
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  Speaker 1: wild variation on where everybody thinks each of these players
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  Speaker 1: is going. I looked at three seven round drafts. I
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  Speaker 1: looked at four and then realize that two of them
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  Speaker 1: were identical. So I don't know how the hell that happens,
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  Speaker 1: So I took that one off my list. I am
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  Speaker 1: seeing players that have one hundred and thirty five spots
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  Speaker 1: one thirty four if we're really counting between where one
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  Speaker 1: person has them going and where somebody else has them going.
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  Speaker 1: Very little consensus in terms of where everybody has people going.
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  Speaker 1: There are a couple of guys that, you know, two
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  Speaker 1: of the three experts have of going in that spot.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, let's start at the top, Ohio State
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  Speaker 1: running back. Obviously they're all Ohio State players. Trevion Henderson.
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  Speaker 1: I see him going twentieth to Denver, forty fourth to Dallas,
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  Speaker 1: and fifty eighth to Houston. So just a thirty eight
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  Speaker 1: pick swing right there. Anyway, from the first round to
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  Speaker 1: the very end of the second round. You know, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if I would have had Trevion Henderson as
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  Speaker 1: my first Buckeye off the board. One of the drafts does,
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  Speaker 1: the other two do not. Now that's interesting because, all right,
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  Speaker 1: Ashtra Genty is pretty much a consensus number one running
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  Speaker 1: back off the board. We're not that far removed from
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  Speaker 1: running backs being so undervalued in the draft that nobody
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  Speaker 1: wanted to take them in the first round out And
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  Speaker 1: you know, we have the potential of three going in
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  Speaker 1: the first run. If you have Ashton Genty, if you
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  Speaker 1: have Amrion Hampton from North Carolina and Trevion Henderson. Now
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  Speaker 1: I'm not completely sold that Omarion Hampton is the second
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  Speaker 1: best draft back. I really am not. And he is
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  Speaker 1: really talented, don't get me wrong. Trey a you know,
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  Speaker 1: half a you know, half a two to solid sandwich himself.
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  Speaker 1: He's really good, and you know he's a three down back,
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  Speaker 1: pass catcher. He can do so many things. Keep an
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  Speaker 1: eye on that one. I don't know if I see
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  Speaker 1: him going twenty to Denver, but I could see him
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  Speaker 1: going before forty four and certainly before fifty eight. But
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  Speaker 1: this is a back, this is a draft you're going
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  Speaker 1: to have to really try to screw up if you're
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  Speaker 1: drafting a running back. It is such a deep draft
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  Speaker 1: at running back. Obviously, Ohio State has a second back.
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  Speaker 1: We'll talk about him here in a second. There are
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  Speaker 1: so many good backs in this draft. I think the
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  Speaker 1: only way that you screw it up is if you
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  Speaker 1: sit there and you take it to the sixth and
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  Speaker 1: then realize they're all gone and you're and you're coveting
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  Speaker 1: a running back. So do we get a situation of
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  Speaker 1: where a run on back starts and we see a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of backs come off in a span of like
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  Speaker 1: eight picks, or does everybody after GENTI play a game
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  Speaker 1: of chicken with each other and say, well, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: going to take one. If you're not going to take one,
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  Speaker 1: and wait to see when the dam breaks, I'm not sure.
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's mark him off the list, because if
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  Speaker 1: I don't, then I won't know who I've talked about, right,
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  Speaker 1: quin Shawn Judkins. It's a tighter grouping here. It's a
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  Speaker 1: tighter grouping here. Not as much love for quin Shawn
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  Speaker 1: as I thought. There'd be sixty eighth to Vegas, seventy
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  Speaker 1: third to Vegas, and fifty eighth to Houston, So that
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  Speaker 1: fifty eight Houston. We just talked about that with Trevion.
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  Speaker 1: So apparently Houston needs a back according to these guys,
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  Speaker 1: and it does Texans need a back. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: anywhere from fifty eight to seventy three, a range of fifteen.
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  Speaker 1: Two of these experts have Vegas taking him that. You know,
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  Speaker 1: remember chip Kelly's there is OC so he certainly knows
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  Speaker 1: what's going on there. Now, chip Kelly only had the
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  Speaker 1: one year with him. He only had the one year
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  Speaker 1: with him. Trevion was in Columbus one year. Chip Kelly
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  Speaker 1: was in Columbus one year. Impactful though, so I would
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  Speaker 1: not be surprised to see this. I've seen other experts
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  Speaker 1: in shorter drafts. I only wanted to use seven round
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  Speaker 1: drafts so I could get all the way there and
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  Speaker 1: make sure we're talking about all the same guys. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going, well, sorry about that. I everybody else
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  Speaker 1: was taken in the fourth or beyond. I don't have
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  Speaker 1: any information to give you at that point. So that's
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  Speaker 1: where the backs are going. Allegedly, sounds like we're going
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  Speaker 1: to see both of them done before we get to
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  Speaker 1: the to the last day of the draft. I think
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  Speaker 1: that's right. But you know, I think that Trevion's probably
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  Speaker 1: an early two. I think Quinn Shawn early three, late two.
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  Speaker 1: I certainly like him enough to take him and as
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  Speaker 1: a late two, but I don't have I don't have
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  Speaker 1: a roster to look at and say, Okay, I got
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  Speaker 1: to fit all this in, and I need two offensive linemen,
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  Speaker 1: and I need a defensive tackle, and I need all this.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot to be said about best
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  Speaker 1: player on the board. So that's what we got there.
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  Speaker 1: Let's let's jump to receiver in a Mecca Abuka. He
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  Speaker 1: is somebody I think a lot of people thought would
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  Speaker 1: be the first guy off the board. And this you
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  Speaker 1: know the draft. The draft experts have him going number
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  Speaker 1: twelve overall to Dallas, which is kind of high. You know,
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  Speaker 1: Ted McMillan was supposed to be going there. Maybe he
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  Speaker 1: had McMillan going sooner, nineteenth to Green Bay and twenty
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  Speaker 1: second to the Chargers. Yes to that Horba dude, to
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  Speaker 1: the weirdo, to the cheaterah. So we're looking a range
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  Speaker 1: of ten. So this is all a tight grouping. Everybody's
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  Speaker 1: got him in the first. I think that's safe. If
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  Speaker 1: I were a betting man, which I am, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: betting on the draft. I think it's a safe bet
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  Speaker 1: to say Abuka goes the first round. He is is
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  Speaker 1: he the number two receiver? See the number three receiver?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, is Ted McMillan really that far
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  Speaker 1: ahead of everybody. I think Abuka didn't do anything to
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  Speaker 1: hurt himself in the process. If anything, I think he
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  Speaker 1: helped himself significantly. One of the NFL guys had him
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  Speaker 1: as one of the guys who helped themselves the most
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  Speaker 1: with the interview process. Abuka very very cerebral dude, very
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  Speaker 1: impressive dude. You know, somebody who was one of the
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  Speaker 1: leaders of the Buckeyes professing their faith everything else. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: obviously we know that Trevion Henderson was the leader, but
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  Speaker 1: Abuca was right there. He is going to be a
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  Speaker 1: guy that I'm not going to be worried about getting
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  Speaker 1: into trouble doing any of that kind of stuff. Now.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, still a twenty one to twenty two year
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  Speaker 1: old kid who's going to be coming into a significant
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  Speaker 1: amount of money. But he got himself some money in
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  Speaker 1: NIL too, So it's not like it's going to be like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, his the first you know, the first time
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  Speaker 1: he's going to see one hundred dollar Bill, So I'm
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  Speaker 1: expecting big things out of him. So I think I
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  Speaker 1: think those picks are right. Let's see, let's go to
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  Speaker 1: let's go to offensive line. Let's go to offensive line,
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  Speaker 1: and Josh Simmons, Now he's somebody who I've seen a
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  Speaker 1: lot of movement there. He got hurt in the Oregon game,
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  Speaker 1: missed the rest of the season, really didn't spend a
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  Speaker 1: lot of time. He would spend a lot of time
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  Speaker 1: rehabbing and trying to get himself right. He was for
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  Speaker 1: the Rose Bowl. He may have been for there for
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  Speaker 1: the championship game. I'm pretty sure he was. I don't
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  Speaker 1: remember it was. It was such a blur and I
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  Speaker 1: had pneumonia at the time to make matters worse, So
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  Speaker 1: I don't remember all of that. A lot of a
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  Speaker 1: lot of the championship run is just a blur in
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  Speaker 1: my mind right now. But yeah, he's finding only twenty
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  Speaker 1: fifth to Houston on two of these, so one of
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  Speaker 1: the few guys that has parody, and then thirty fourth
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  Speaker 1: to the Giants. So two of them have him in
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  Speaker 1: the first round, one has them in the second round.
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  Speaker 1: Houston certainly needs offensive line to help C. J. Stroud
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  Speaker 1: the giants, Well, they need everything. So nine pick range,
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  Speaker 1: I think that's fair. I think a lot of these
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  Speaker 1: guys who are kind of consensus first round, top of
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  Speaker 1: the second round guys, you're not going to see a
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  Speaker 1: huge amount of movement, So we will just agree with
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  Speaker 1: that one. Let's jump down to Seth McLachlin talking of
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  Speaker 1: Buck guys who got injured. He got hurt leading into
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  Speaker 1: the Indiana game. And he was around. He's been around.
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  Speaker 1: He won't leave Columbus. Everybody else, I mean, maybe not
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  Speaker 1: none of the Ohio State guys really, I mean maybe
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  Speaker 1: Jars Simmons, but uh really left Columbus he really, I
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  Speaker 1: mean for a one year guy, quote unquote the one
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  Speaker 1: year rental. He really seems to like it. Here, wide range, wide, wide,
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  Speaker 1: wide range on him. One pick one has him going
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  Speaker 1: number eighty six overall to the Chargers, to the Cheater,
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  Speaker 1: one fourteen to Carolina, and two twenty to New England.
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  Speaker 1: How healthy is he? How is that? Achilles? Is he
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  Speaker 1: going to be somebody? You know? Our OTAs in the
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  Speaker 1: question is he going to have to make it all
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  Speaker 1: the way to mini camp if he gets drafted higher?
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  Speaker 1: That bode's better for him, not only from a financial standpoint,
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  Speaker 1: But how likely are you going to be to cut
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  Speaker 1: a third rounder right off the bat? You know, obviously
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  Speaker 1: it's about his health. He won the Rimington Award for
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  Speaker 1: the nation's top center, so somebody obviously knows what they're
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  Speaker 1: talking about with him. That he can play. Now, how
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  Speaker 1: does it translate to the league? I think it translates well.
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  Speaker 1: But he's got to be healthy. How how is that
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  Speaker 1: Achilles going to stand up? How? I mean, there are
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  Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of what ifs. Obviously the
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  Speaker 1: first guy does not you know, a two twenty doesn't
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  Speaker 1: believe that teams are buying his medicals or anything else.
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  Speaker 1: The other two guys have him no lower than one
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  Speaker 1: point fifteen. They seem to be buying. So I think
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  Speaker 1: eighty six might be a little early for an offensive center.
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  Speaker 1: I like that one fourteen range. I think that I
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  Speaker 1: think that's probably still a little high. I would say
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  Speaker 1: one thirties to one fifties. Maybe two twenty is way
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  Speaker 1: too low, way too low. Now I've not seen the medicals.
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  Speaker 1: You know, none of us are going to see the medicals.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know, I don't you know, I don't
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  Speaker 1: necessarily know what they're seeing, but there seems to be
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  Speaker 1: a wide range. And again, these guys don't completely operate
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  Speaker 1: in a vacuum. They do talk to people, but again
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  Speaker 1: we do live in this world of misinformation and the
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  Speaker 1: silly season and everything else, and oh, this guy's a bum,
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  Speaker 1: and then they turn around and draft him with their
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  Speaker 1: first pick. So that's what makes us all so much fun.
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  Speaker 1: It makes it so much fun because you never know
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  Speaker 1: what the right information is and there's such a domino effect.
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  Speaker 1: There's such a domino effect that, oh, you took the
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  Speaker 1: guy we wanted. Now we're going to completely scrap it.
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  Speaker 1: We're not. You don't don't move down from one corner
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  Speaker 1: to the next corner unless you absolutely have to have
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  Speaker 1: a corner. You just don't know what's going to happen.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we think we know what the top of
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  Speaker 1: the draft is gonna look like in the first couple
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  Speaker 1: of picks, but do we will we see a trade?
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  Speaker 1: Could trades completely change all this up? You just you
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  Speaker 1: don't know. You don't know. We're gonna we're gonna hit
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  Speaker 1: d line because there's several to talk. We're gonna start
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  Speaker 1: with Tyler Williams, Townsend defensive tackle, for the Buckeyes. About
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  Speaker 1: a twenty pick range here, thirty six to Jacksonville, forty
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  Speaker 1: to Minnesota, fifty six to Buffalo. Fifty six feels way
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  Speaker 1: too low. Thirty six maybe forty probably feels right. So
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  Speaker 1: you got to like that. I think you intercut that
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  Speaker 1: with j T. Tuamoloau somebody else that is gonna be
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  Speaker 1: kind of right there. He has got a seventeen range
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  Speaker 1: pick thirty nine to Chicago, fifty six to Buffalo. There's
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  Speaker 1: that Buffalo pick again. Buffalo must need a defensive lineman,
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  Speaker 1: even though Tyleerk and JT are two different positions. And
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  Speaker 1: fifty four degree Bay and we'll get back to Donovan Jackson.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't mean to miss him. Well after
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  Speaker 1: we finished d line, we'll get back to Donovan. My apologies.
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  Speaker 1: I think those numbers feel about right. I mean, there's
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: always been this conversation that one of these guys could
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: sneak into the first round, and you never know, you
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: never know, but I don't think it's going to happen.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: They're both poised a little bit better than their fellow
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: linemates who have their picks lower. I mean, there is
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: one that's kind of in the ballpark. But I think
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: I think those are both fair. I mean, I think
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: that Tyler Williams his biggest thing is being able to
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: stay healthy and how much can you keep him on
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: the field. And he's not a three down player all
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: the time. I mean, you know, I think that there's
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: situational things that for him. I mean, he's great against
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: the run and everything else. I think that, you know,
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: I think you look there. JT is an edge an
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: edge rusher. I think that he you know, people want
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: to sit there and say that he and Jack are
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: the same guy. They're not exactly. I mean, you could
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: be the same height and weight and they're not and
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: not be the same type of player, have the same
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: type of body. There's there are a lot of differences
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: in there. I mean, both of them played out of
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: their minds in the playoffs. Jack Sawyer obviously the scoop
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: and score. Uh you know Sawyer. You know Sawyer put
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: up some numbers and then when you sit there and
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: you look at it. I did a piece on this
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: a couple of months ago. JT had bigger numbers. Jack
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: maybe had a couple of plays that were more impactful
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: in the moment. But I mean like JT was a
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: monster against Tennessee. JT was a monster against Oregon. Let's
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: you know, let's not you know, not forget these types
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: of things. So I think ty leek around forty sounds
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: about right. I think. I think I think j T.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: He's hurt by a pretty good edged class. I think
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: I think late forties, early fifties sounds about right there.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: And as I said, we're gonna get back to Donovan
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: in a second, we're going to finish with the d line.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: Jack Sawyer range of one hundred and two picks here
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: one sixty seven to Tennessee, sixty five to the Giant,
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: sixty nine, nice to New England. That's, you know, that's
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: something right there. That's something right there. And then ty Hamilton,
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: another interior lineman, one fifty six to Pittsburgh, not drafted
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: according to another expert, and then two oh three to Baltimore.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Everybody slept on Devon Hamilton, Tye's big brother. Devon's laughing
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: all the way to the bank. He's getting drafted. You know,
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: I think I think he's like one eighties, one nineties Jack.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: I think Jack is like in the seventies. I think
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: the seventies about right. Maybe the eighties. We'll go back
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: and we'll check this out. I'm gonna have to run
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: this through a transcription program. I'm not writing down my picks.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: I should. If I were intelligent, I would. If I
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: were the producer I claimed to be, which I am,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: I would go through and I would. I'd be writing
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: this stuff down. You gotta, you gotta, you gotta do
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: the work. But I don't have a pen anywhere, So
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: you know, I think I again, I think Ty gets
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: drafted on one, eighties, one, nineties. I think jack is
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: like in the seventies, all four linemen are getting picked,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: all right. I can't believe that I missed Donovan Jackson,
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: and he's another guy. We have a consensus on forty eight,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: Miami forty eight, Miami, forty three, San Francisco. We're not
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: that far removed from Donovan Jackson being miss mentioned as
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: a first round pick. Now suddenly he is kind of
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: in the bottom middle of the second round see guard tackle,
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: how to team see him? Obviously, that versatility is going
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: to help. If he could play four positions on the line,
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: and you have a fifty three man roster active roster
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: for football NFL, why not take him. But you know,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: is he is he big enough to be an NFL tackle?
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: Maybe not tall enough. He's stand by him and he's
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: gonna clips the sun. He's a big guy. I think
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: that I think that this is potentially one of the
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: bigger steals in the draft based on these positions. And sure,
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: I could sit there and say, oh, Jack Sawyer won
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: sixty seven, that's a steal. Somebody's gonna get him so
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: much earlier and everything else, but let's let's be honest.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: Donovan Jackson in the late forties. That doesn't That doesn't
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: feel right. That doesn't feel right. I mean there are
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: some there are some dudes on the offensive line, don't
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: get me wrong. I mean he's in, you know, he's
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: having to go, you know, be compared with Josh Simmons,
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: who is a true tackle. You know, Donovan is a
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: guard who slid out to tackle and after having to
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: find his way, played really well. Give me, give me,
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: give me Donovan Jackson at forty five. I don't even
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: know who's forty five. But I'm just picking things based
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: off of numbers. We haven't even factored trades in and
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: everything else. So a lot of stuff can happen. But
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: give me him, give me him. There. Let's jump to
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: a favorite name for Ohio State fans, a one year name,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: quarterback Will Howard. One seventy five Seattle, one thirty seven Seattle,
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: or one twenty three Pittsburgh. So apparently Seattle may covet him.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Pittsburgh is a team that I've heard him mentioned attached
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: to numerous times. Now, everybody's out there making moves trying
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: to like secure their quarterback position. We know that how
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: important quarterback is. You know, let's start with one twenty
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: three in Pittsburgh. That one makes a lot of sense.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: That's that's something I've seen elsewhere. I've seen that elsewhere. Now.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: I know a lot of my viewers are Browns fans.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: I know a lot of my viewers are Bengals fans
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: that they do not like the Stillers at all. And
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: I hear it all the time. Please don't make me
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: have to stop rooting for this player because they're playing
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: for Pittsburgh, or you know, don't make me hate so
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: and so because they're playing for Pittsburgh. I don't think
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: that Will Howard is going to get much hate from
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Ohio State fans, regardless of their fandom period. Now. I
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: think they'd rather see them end up in Seattle. Sorry,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: we'll give up a couple of dollars and go to
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Seattle where we don't have to deal with you. Throw
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: it to JSN. I think one point thirty seven is
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: very interesting. I think one seventy five. I think he
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: could be there at one seventy five. Will Howard is
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: a guy. He wins, he wins. Does he have the
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: biggest arm, No, but he's accurate as Heck, seventy five
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: percent in the playoffs. Was you know up there during
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: the regular season, plays big and big games. Okay, in
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: the in the in the Michigan game, or I said it,
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: in the Michigan game. I'm convinced he got concussed. I'm convinced.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: You cannot tell me otherwise. Ohio State's head medical staff
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: members could come here and he's like, Kevin, he was
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: not concussed. I'd be like, I don't believe you. He
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: was not right in that game. He got hit hard
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: in the head and he was not right. Now, with
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: all the new concussion protocols and having the you know,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: the concussion monitor and everything else, how does that happen?
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess if you're that big of
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: a gamer, if you're that big of a gamer, you
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: can outgame the system and then the Oregon game The
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: Lost organ He played well. The two turnovers. One turnover
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: was a fumble, the other turnover was an on side
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: Maybe it wasn't an on side on side kick. Howard
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: played well. Yes, he should have slit a second earlier,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: but don't put it down to that one one play.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Don't put it down to that one play. So I
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: think that Howard. I think that Howard around one thirty seven,
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna say that. I mean, would I
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: be shocked if he went one twenty three to Pittsburgh? Now, No,
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't be shocked at all. If everybody keeps trying
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: to put him to Seattle, could Seattle move up to
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: try and get ahead of Pittsburgh. That's what makes it
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: so much fun. So what makes it so much fun?
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: All right, Let's let's jump to linebacker Cody Simon, another
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: player with some pretty wide ranges. One thirty four to Philadelphia,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: one fifty three to Cincinnati, twenty two to Las Vegas.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Cody Simon is somebody who I think we were all
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: robbed not getting to see two years of Cody Simon
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: as a starter at Ohio State. Not taking anything away
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: from Steel Chambers, I'm not taking anything away from Tommy Eikenberg.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: Cody Simon was a tremendous linebacker. Does he translate well
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: to the NFL? That's the question. Everybody's got to be
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: able to run. He certainly can hit, ask Niko. He
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: certainly can hit. Can he run enough? I'm gonna I'm
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say like one seventy
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say around one seventy or so for Cody Simon.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: I think that he I think I think teams are
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: going to be a little hesitant to pull the trigger there.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: I think somebody's going to pull the trigger, but I
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna be as early as one thirty
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: four or one fifty three, but certainly not going to
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: be two twenty two. No. Then we get to the secondary,
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: and we've got we've got some interesting ranges here. Let's
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: start with Leithan Ransom the Safety ninety to Philadelphia, one
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: twenty to Tennessee one thirty three to pitt So forty three,
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: pick range. I'm I'm comfortable with all that. I think
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: ninety feels a little early. I think one thirty three.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: I want to say it feels late, but it kind
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: of feels right. It kind of feels right. Uh Again,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: nobody wants to see him in Pittsburgh. Well, maybe a
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: couple people do, but nobody wants to see him in Pittsburgh.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say late one twenties.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say late one twenties on Lathan Ransom, Denzel Burke.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: We got a good range here too. We got one
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: hundred to San Francisco, one nineteen to Cincinnati, one seventy
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: four to Dallas. Burke is somebody that has had a
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: wide range, a lot of different opinions on him during
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: the whole process. Let's not forget he had like a
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: two game stretch and unfortunately one of those games was
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: at Oregon of where he was discombobulated. And what do
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: I mean by that? He just wasn't playing Denzel Burke
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: style football. He was getting picked on. Sometimes when you're
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: not right, the ball finds you. Well, the ball found him,
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: the ball founders found the receivers he was trying to cover,
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: and there were some pretty great catches made against him
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: that it's like, well, what you're gonna do. But with
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: that being said, you're still responsible for your the guy
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: you're covering. So if teams don't look at those two
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: those two games, it looks a lot better, but you
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: know that's not how it works. So you know, one
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: hundred one nineteen, it's not gonna be one seventy four.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say like one forty. I'm gonna say around
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: one for Denzel Burk. And then Jordan Hancock, who's somebody
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: that has been highly divisive in terms of what people
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: are seeing, and he is the last player we're going
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: to talk about. One eleven to Carolina, which is the outlier,
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: to twenty eight to Detroit and two thirty nine to Dallas.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: So two of these guys have him barely being drafted,
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: barely being drafted, and one guy has him going one
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: hundred and twenty eight picks better than the low water mark.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: I really like Jordan Hancock. I think he can play.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: He's not going one hundred and eleventh. I'm not going
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: to make a bet with against myself. What do I
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: win if I'm right? Nothing? If I lose. What I'm
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: gonna have to do, eat a jar pickles, do something
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: stupid on the air. No, no, no, no. So you know,
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: I think that he's going to be somebody in like
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: the one eighties, one nineties. I think that I think
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: it's going to be somebody is going to feel like
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: they're taking a runner on him. But I think he's
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: going to prove a lot of people wrong. The people
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: who don't think that he should be drafted, or they
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: think he should be drafted really low. But I think
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: that there's just enough competition out there that that's just
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: kind of where the numbers go. So there you go.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: Those are my picks. I'm gonna have to, as I said,
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to go through and run this through
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: a transcription program to get my picks again because I
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: did not write them down. Today is Monday, April twenty. First,
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: as I said, let's come back on Wednesday, Let's go live,
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: and we will do a listener questions type of show
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: in advance of the draft. So we will not be
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: going through results or anything like that. You tell me
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: what we're doing. I will prepare very little and we'll
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: have a fun time. So until then everybody have a
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: great day, stay safe out there, and I'll talk to
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: you all very soon.