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55KRC Friday Show - Tech Friday, Joshua Lisec, Help Squad, Wine Fest, Jack Windsor · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: 505-55KRC, the talk station. Happy Friday. There it is. Must
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  Speaker 1: be Friday. Thank you, Joe Strecker, executive producer of the
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  Speaker 1: 55 Karat Show Morning Show for the WooHoo, and thank
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  Speaker 1: you for tuning into the morning show, my friends in
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  Speaker 1: the listening audience. I do appreciate you very much, especially
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  Speaker 1: in these times of strife. That's why I mentioned about
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  Speaker 1: listening to Lunch on Wednesday. It was great being around
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  Speaker 1: people that you're friendly with because it sure took the
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  Speaker 1: edge off of that just shellacking. Yeah, it was a shellacking.
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  Speaker 1: So just don't let them get under your skin. Don't
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  Speaker 1: let them ruin your day. Don't let them ruin your
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  Speaker 1: mental health because if you do, that means they win double.
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  Speaker 1: They not only won the election, but They won the, well,
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  Speaker 1: the battle for your mind. Don't let them ruin your day.
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  Speaker 1: And what do we got coming up? It's Tech Friday. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's right. 6.30 every Friday we get Dave Hatter. And
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  Speaker 1: what a benefit Dave Hatter is. He's been telling you
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  Speaker 1: for years and it just keeps getting worse. It being
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  Speaker 1: the hacking of Internet of Things devices. And, you know,
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  Speaker 1: be worried. You know, the lights could go out any
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  Speaker 1: moment in time. Somebody's got their finger on the off switch.
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  Speaker 1: So we're going to talk about unvetted AI agents accessing U.S.
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  Speaker 1: bank accounts. Frightening. Ohio's auditor website online accounts down after
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  Speaker 1: cyber attack. Yeah, that attack, too. And then target Delta, specifically.
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  Speaker 1: Airlines targeted in a federal investigation into personalized pricing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: How much do you make? We're going to adjust the
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  Speaker 1: price accordingly. Well, that's like a socialist dream, isn't it?
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  Speaker 1: Or a communist dream from each according to his ability
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  Speaker 1: to each according to his need. Oh, that person's poor.
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  Speaker 1: They get a lower price. Oh, that person's rich. They
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  Speaker 1: must pay more. It's kind of like the taxation system,
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  Speaker 1: isn't it? But I guess it's illegal if stores do it,
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  Speaker 1: but it's okay if the government does it. Go ahead
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  Speaker 1: and make sense of that one. Joshua Lisek with a book.
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  Speaker 1: This ought to be interesting. Haitians of Springfield. There's actually
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  Speaker 1: a book on that. What if dismissing a viral news
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  Speaker 1: story as a hoax was the real hoax all along?
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  Speaker 1: When Springfield High became a national symbol of America's immigration debate,
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  Speaker 1: the media moved quickly to impose a clean, familiar narrative.
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  Speaker 1: Claims were debunked. Concerns were invented. Inherited citizens raising them
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  Speaker 1: were misled, manipulated, or worse. But For many Clark County residents,
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  Speaker 1: the official story rang false. It sounded more like a cover-up.
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  Speaker 1: Therein lies the intro into the book, Haitians of Springfield.
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  Speaker 1: That'll be at 7.05. I hope you stick around for
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  Speaker 1: that or tune in later or go to the podcast page, 55KRC. iHeart. com.
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  Speaker 1: Following Joshua's appearance on the program at 7.30, we're going
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  Speaker 1: to hear from Crystal Rack, the marketing representative for CareSource,
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  Speaker 1: The Help Squad Coat Drive. Brian Eibold, you're out there.
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  Speaker 1: Good morning. Thank you for starting the Help Squad to
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  Speaker 1: help folks on the west side of the city of
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  Speaker 1: Cincinnati deal with their financial struggles, including getting them coats.
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  Speaker 1: Wintertime's fast approaching. That's a wonderful, wonderful thing. Charitable endeavor.
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  Speaker 1: 805 with TJ Askren from Jungle Gyms. Be in studio.
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  Speaker 1: We'll be drinking wine. Well, not really drinking wine because
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  Speaker 1: we all know that's a violation of the rules here
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  Speaker 1: at 55KRC, but we'll be talking wine. There's a wine
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  Speaker 1: festival tomorrow. Joe Strecker on the rundown. Hi, Comedy Joe.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Wondering if Amy Acton has VIP passes. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I know there's no doubt on that. Of course she does.
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  Speaker 1: And Jack Windsor from the Ohio Press Network. Obviously not
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  Speaker 1: a happy camper, Jack Windsor, along with the rest of us.
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  Speaker 1: He can share our misery. We'll hear Jack's commentary on
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  Speaker 1: post-election issues later. And, of course, the market blow up yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: It took the market a day to wake up to,
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  Speaker 1: holy crap, what's going on out in the world. I
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  Speaker 1: was very surprised when the market went through the roof
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  Speaker 1: the day before yesterday on Wednesday. Did we jump three
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  Speaker 1: percentage points? Well, guess what? Kiss all that and a
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  Speaker 1: whole lot more goodbye. Headline. Wall Street gets $ 2. 5 trillion
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  Speaker 1: artificial intelligence reality check with historic rout of tech, mostly
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  Speaker 1: tech stocks. But, man, it went all across the major markets,
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  Speaker 1: whittling away of any gain that showed up on Wednesday and,
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  Speaker 1: of course, whittling away even more than that. Total wipeout, $ 2.
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  Speaker 2: 49 trillion.
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  Speaker 1: The new reality slammed into Wall Street, according to the Journal.
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  Speaker 1: Thursday's stock market wipeout. They say a few quarters of
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  Speaker 1: the tech sector are unscathed. Asian chip makers wiped out.
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  Speaker 1: Texas power producers gone. New Jersey cloud computing providers gone.
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  Speaker 1: Silicon Valley software makers, contractors, and data center developers all
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  Speaker 1: down pretty substantially, too. And they point out, often in unison,
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  Speaker 1: the sell-off that appeared to feed on itself as the
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  Speaker 1: day wore on. It's kind of like a panic. Holy crap,
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  Speaker 1: the rug's getting pulled out from under the market. So
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  Speaker 1: people started panicking and pulling the plug. By Thursday afternoon,
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  Speaker 1: one trillion roughly of the so-called Magnificent Seven group of
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  Speaker 1: tech giants' collective market value had vanished. NASDAQ Composite stumbled
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  Speaker 1: into what they call correction territory, shedding an estimated $ 2. 5
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  Speaker 1: trillion in total market value, the biggest drop in the
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  Speaker 1: benchmark's history. I guess the election wasn't so positive an event,
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  Speaker 1: was it? AI was driving the market up until just
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  Speaker 1: very recently. Now the power shift in Washington, as well
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  Speaker 1: as the election of several governors who have promised data
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  Speaker 1: center restrictions, and along with all those ballot measures, most
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  Speaker 1: notably in Ohio where more data projects were planned than
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  Speaker 1: I think in any other state, maybe not anymore. This
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  Speaker 1: is going to cause a problem. thus exposing the fragility
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  Speaker 1: of the stock market and its reliance, I guess, largely
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  Speaker 1: upon artificial intelligence to keep the numbers up. Thursday's sell-off
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  Speaker 1: broadened to drag down every sector of the S &
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  Speaker 1: P 500. Departure from recent sessions where weakness in AI
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  Speaker 1: stocks spurred a large rotation into other areas of the market.
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  Speaker 1: NASDAQ composite tumbled, marked its worst day again since President's
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  Speaker 1: tariffs announcement last year set markets haywire. And so that
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  Speaker 1: was yesterday. And you wake up this morning, what are
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  Speaker 1: the global markets doing? Yeah, they're going down too. Global
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  Speaker 1: stocks described as swooning. Apparently that's going on right now.
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  Speaker 1: Tech-heavy indices in Asia hit the hardest as investors ditch
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  Speaker 1: some of this year's most popular AI trades. Japan's Nikkei
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  Speaker 1: and South Korea's Kospi indices fell 6% each with declines
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  Speaker 1: led by chip stocks. One of the biggest open AI investors, SoftBank,
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  Speaker 1: down 10%. European index is also open lower with the
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  Speaker 1: stocks 600, down 1.4%. Brent crude going back up. It
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  Speaker 1: was down yesterday, which apparently led some to believe that, well,
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  Speaker 1: not a problem here. We're going to have some measure
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  Speaker 1: of stability. The energy price is going to go down.
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  Speaker 1: The price of gasoline is going to go around. That
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  Speaker 1: was a moment in time. It's based on some comments
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  Speaker 1: from Trump and J.D. Vance about maybe winding the war down. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: Brent crude back up toward $ 100 a barrel today, pairing
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  Speaker 1: the dramatic post-election decline. One analyst had this to say,
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  Speaker 1: the reality of this situation hit home.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: Only took a day. You know, the pause yesterday, or
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  Speaker 1: rather the jump yesterday, I don't know anything about it,
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  Speaker 1: but the analyst had suggested, well, maybe this pairing back,
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  Speaker 1: this cautious approach to AI will give the market some,
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  Speaker 1: you know, perception of stability that We're going to have some,
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  Speaker 1: I guess, measured response. Maybe the investments in artificial intelligence
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  Speaker 1: stocks will be pared back a little bit, but that
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  Speaker 1: money will flow into other areas of the market. Well,
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  Speaker 1: clearly that didn't happen. So, it could be a bumpy ride.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe you've heard about the tech stock bubble burst, and
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  Speaker 1: maybe Dave Hatter can chime in on this and see
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  Speaker 1: what his tea leaf reading suggests. But they've been talking
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  Speaker 1: about this just like they talk about all the other
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  Speaker 1: bubbles that burst. Maybe you didn't know the housing market
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  Speaker 1: was going to bubble burst back when the housing market
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  Speaker 1: bubble did burst. A lot of analysts saying it was
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  Speaker 1: going to happen. I mean, you can only give out
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  Speaker 1: loans that are, well, shaky ground. You can only hand
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  Speaker 1: out money for people to buy homes with zero down
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  Speaker 1: and with poor credit one day out of bankruptcy. You
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  Speaker 1: could get a loan for a home. Yeah, that was
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  Speaker 1: destined to fail. It was a stupid idea.
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  Speaker 2: It did.
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  Speaker 1: Overzealous realities and moving into the Internet. Remember the Internet
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  Speaker 1: bubble bursting? Yeah, it was just overzealous. That was the
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  Speaker 1: area where there was going to be massive growth. We're
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  Speaker 1: all going to get rich. And, you know, exuberance doesn't
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  Speaker 1: always mean you're going to end up with a long-term
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  Speaker 1: positive situation. We suffered through that one. We've seen others
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  Speaker 1: like this, and it looks like maybe, and I hope
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  Speaker 1: it's not the case. I've got money invested in the market.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to see it go back down again
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  Speaker 1: and only to have to claw it back over time,
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  Speaker 1: which usually always happens. Listen to Brian James every Monday. Listen,
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  Speaker 1: the markets go up, the markets go down. Just don't
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  Speaker 1: go crazy and start, you know, overreacting. Slow and steady
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  Speaker 1: wins the race. So I don't want a bubble to burst.
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  Speaker 1: But brace yourself. All those construction jobs out there, you
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  Speaker 1: people who hate artificial intelligence, and I'll be damned if
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  Speaker 1: I don't have a data center in my neighborhood or
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  Speaker 1: anywhere near it. Yeah, that has a profound ripple effect.
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  Speaker 1: 515 right now, 55 characters to the talk station. Jerry,
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  Speaker 1: I see you're on the line. I can't wait to
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  Speaker 1: talk to you. If you don't mind holding for just
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  Speaker 1: a couple minutes, we'll be right back. 55 KRC. Likely
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  Speaker 1: Sunday is going to be partly clouded with a high
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  Speaker 1: of 56. Currently 51 at the cloud KRC.
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  Speaker 3: I'm Donald J. Trump and I approve this message.
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  Speaker 1: That is a different ring to it after Tuesday's election, Joe.
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  Speaker 2: 519.
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  Speaker 1: Love you. If you like to gamble, I'll tell you
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  Speaker 1: how to land.
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  Speaker 2: You win so blue.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we got that out of the system. Let's go
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  Speaker 1: to the phones. Jerry was kind enough to hold over
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  Speaker 1: the break. Welcome, Jerry. It's good to have you here,
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  Speaker 1: and happy Friday.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, thank you, Brian. Sir, with all due respect, the
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  Speaker 4: media has won. Biden days are coming back, and within
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  Speaker 4: six months, everybody's going to be complaining like they did
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  Speaker 4: prior of putting Trump back in there. Watch, it's coming.
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  Speaker 1: No, you're right.
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  Speaker 4: It is.
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  Speaker 1: Look, I don't know why you prefaced his statement with
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  Speaker 1: all due respect. You're not insulting me by stating the obvious, Jerry.
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  Speaker 1: Look at the ballot measures below. I mean, all the
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  Speaker 1: voters in all these left-wing, that went all full-on left-wing,
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  Speaker 1: voting in Democrat governors and previously Republican-dominated, they voted to
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  Speaker 1: bar women or men from competing in women's sports. They
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  Speaker 1: also enshrined in various state laws a photo ID requirement.
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  Speaker 1: These are Republican things that left-leaning states embrace. So I
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  Speaker 1: guess we're on the right side of many arguments. It's
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  Speaker 1: just that Donald Trump drug everybody down. They had enough
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  Speaker 1: of evil orange men, I guess. This is why so
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  Speaker 1: many Republicans voted for a Democrat, of all things. But
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  Speaker 1: you're right. Chickens will come home to roost. Democrat parties
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  Speaker 1: will endeavor to push them and enshrine them into law.
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  Speaker 1: They'll advance their leftist ideology, and people will wake up
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  Speaker 1: and go, Lord Almighty. See, I'm almost cursed. What the
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  Speaker 1: hell did I do? I agree with you.
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  Speaker 2: 513-749-5500.
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  Speaker 1: 800-823-TALK. Bound by 50 on AT & T phones. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: go on that topic. Voters in three Democratic-led states approve
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  Speaker 1: ballot measures restricting transgender athletes from participating in girls' and
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  Speaker 1: women's sports. You know, this, I saw this corollary article.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, Breitbart, for bringing this one to my attention.
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  Speaker 1: The LGBTQ Plus online news broadcast. There's something out in
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  Speaker 1: the world. Welcome to Queer News Tonight. So you had
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  Speaker 1: to know about it. But they're all giddy with excitement
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  Speaker 1: over there. And they predict that one of the first
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  Speaker 1: acts of the Democratic-controlled Congress will be a rule change
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  Speaker 1: so that the lone transgender representative, a person called Sarah McBride,
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  Speaker 1: Democrat from Delaware, a guy who pretends he's a woman,
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  Speaker 1: through legislative change will be able to use the women's
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  Speaker 1: bathroom in Congress. That's important. Trans dignity coming to the
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  Speaker 1: halls of Congress. Sarah McBride, the Congresswoman, man, from Delaware,
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  Speaker 1: easily won re-election last night, originally elected in 2024. She
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  Speaker 1: is the first openly trans woman, man, in Congress. For
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  Speaker 1: the past two years, she has been forced to use
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  Speaker 1: the men's, forced to use the men's restroom, which he
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  Speaker 1: occupied and used pretty much his entire life up until
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  Speaker 1: the moment in time he said, I'm a woman, and
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  Speaker 1: everybody had to say, okay, you are now. You still
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  Speaker 1: have a penis, parenthetically? Anyway, under the new rules passed
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  Speaker 1: by House Republicans, queer news tonight, John Hayden said the
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  Speaker 1: foregoing and then also said when Democrats take the gavel
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  Speaker 1: in January, expect that to change. They vehemently protest the
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  Speaker 1: rule two years ago, which specifically was created to target
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  Speaker 1: McBride soon. Democrats will make the rules and make things right.
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  Speaker 1: You know, McBride took a lot of flack for not
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  Speaker 1: fighting back, for saying, OK, you know, you know, she
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  Speaker 1: could have fought it. She could have made a bigger thing. See,
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  Speaker 1: I don't even know what that rambling means. Let me
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  Speaker 1: interject my observations there. She did it.
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  Speaker 5: Phrasing.
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  Speaker 1: Freshmen in the House rarely get to say anything about anything,
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  Speaker 1: but this is going to be an interesting injustice corrected.
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  Speaker 1: Asserting that that election also showed that LGBT rights swing
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  Speaker 1: from election to election. There's that pendulum swinging. I can
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  Speaker 1: make a joke in there, Joe, if you think about
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  Speaker 1: the pendulum swinging, since we're talking about transgenders here. Phrasing?
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: But voters in these Democrat-led states, Arizona, Colorado, Washington, not
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  Speaker 1: going to be restricting transgender students from participating in girls'
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  Speaker 1: sports teams. These are blue states. This isn't something coming
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  Speaker 1: out of, oh, I don't know, pick a state. I
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  Speaker 1: was going to say Texas, but Texas is kind of
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  Speaker 1: blue right now. Let's go to Florida where some sanity remains.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think this is something that would come out
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  Speaker 1: of Florida?
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  Speaker 6: No.
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  Speaker 1: Nebraska, which is still, I believe, a red state, also
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  Speaker 1: approved a measure to amend the state constitution barring transgender
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  Speaker 1: athletes from participating in girls' and women's school sports. So
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  Speaker 1: that concept, which you and I have been talking about
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  Speaker 1: for a long time, it's simply not fair. Not only
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  Speaker 1: is it bat crap off the charts insane for someone
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  Speaker 1: to argue that I, you, me, I, whoever believes X, Y, X,
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  Speaker 1: X determines gender. The insanity of us being expected to
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  Speaker 1: just agree that, no, that person said he is a
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  Speaker 1: girl and therefore they're a girl now. It doesn't change
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  Speaker 1: the biological reality. I know I'm saying something that is
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  Speaker 1: so common sense. And look, even voters in far blue
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  Speaker 1: states say, you know what, that is common sense. And
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  Speaker 1: I've got a girl in high school sports and I,
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  Speaker 1: far left wing DSA leading socialist I am, I sure
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  Speaker 1: as hell don't want her competing against, you know, some
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  Speaker 1: hulking guy claiming he's a girl. You were always right
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  Speaker 1: on that. I was always right on that. And this
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  Speaker 1: isn't an insult. I'm not transphobic. I can live side
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  Speaker 1: by side with someone who's transgender.
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  Speaker 3: I don't care.
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  Speaker 1: You just can't make me change my mind or think
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  Speaker 1: it's okay for me, for, for a guy to compete
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  Speaker 1: against women, most notably when they're in high school. That's
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  Speaker 1: why I got title nine. It was to create opportunities
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  Speaker 1: for women in sports because biologically they just can't measure
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  Speaker 1: up to guys. It doesn't mean they're less intelligent. It
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  Speaker 1: doesn't mean they're lesser of a human being. It's just
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  Speaker 1: simple biological reality. Blame God if you want. There are
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  Speaker 1: differences in the sexes. Probably good reasons for that, you know.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm not going to go down the theological realm.
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  Speaker 6: Don't you oppress me.
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  Speaker 1: Right. Splitter. Anyway, wake up to reality. This is not
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  Speaker 1: something that's widely embraced. Oh, and the other one, the
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  Speaker 1: other one. Photo ID. Yeah, everyone wants photo ID from
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  Speaker 1: the lefties to the right side of the ledger. There's
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  Speaker 1: something that passed pretty much widely, not in all states.
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  Speaker 1: It's a common sense thing. Welcome to the world that
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  Speaker 1: we really live in. You know, I know it's tempered
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  Speaker 1: by the mainstream media, a bunch of crazies on the
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  Speaker 1: left to make you feel like you are in the minority.
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  Speaker 1: And you're some evil, bigoted, oppressive, whatever person. A supporter
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  Speaker 1: of the patriarchy or something. No, you're always right. 526-55-KRC.
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  Speaker 4: On a Friday.
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  Speaker 2: 513-749-5500.
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  Speaker 1: 800-823-TALK. 950 on AT & T phone. What's with Amy Acton?
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  Speaker 1: She wouldn't answer a phone call from Vivek Ramasamy, who
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  Speaker 1: was merely calling to concede the Ohio Gubernatorial race.
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  Speaker 5: Hmm.
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  Speaker 1: He said we left her a message. It's a tough
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  Speaker 1: night for us here in Ohio, said Vivek Ramasamy when
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  Speaker 1: asked about this. So she won't even pick up a
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  Speaker 1: phone call. That's weird. Is that a sore winner, Joe?
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  Speaker 1: Both of her hands were full with wine glasses. That's
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  Speaker 1: an interesting observation, Joe. Well, I know she can't pick
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  Speaker 1: up the phone when she's got wine glasses in her hand.
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  Speaker 1: That's speculation on the part of Joe Stracker. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: see her drinking, but certainly reasonable conclusion. What else is
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  Speaker 1: going on as far as local stories are concerned down here?
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  Speaker 1: Hamilton County Sheriff's Office will no longer provide routine patrols
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: in Whitewater Township beginning January 1st due to the lack
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: of a formal police services contract. Sheriff McGuffey announced Wednesday.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: Wednesday.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: Sheriff's Office will alter how policing is conducted within the
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: township limits, stating Whitewater Township is the only jurisdiction in Hamilton,
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Canada that does not maintain a formal contract for police
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: protection services. Thank you to Fox 19 Brooklyn. Andres, for reporting,
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: under the change, deputies will continue to respond to emergency
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: situation injuries and crashes, but routine patrols and traffic enforcement
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: will no longer be provided. Is this a green light
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: for speeding then at Whitewater Township, Joe?
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's a thumbs up. Now, all they do is
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: they'll just put speed bumps in everywhere. Northwest local school
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: district superintendent Darrell Yader said that they are investigating after
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: a parent entered an unauthorized area, Coleraine Middle School, without permission.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: Jessica Clayton said the parent confronted her 13-year-old niece and
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: looked like she was going to attack the child. Clayton
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: said she's actually fearful for her life, the child is.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: She's been throwing up. She's been seeing all the attacks
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: from everyone, whether they're adult kids or whatever. There have
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: been text messages of her being called names. Clayton said
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: social media account with the parent's name on it reads, quote,
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: I know my anger. I know my limits. I just
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: hope that tomorrow this will be handled by the right
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: people because if it's not, I'm just going to be
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: in jail and I'm not playing. The parent said in
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: the post that her daughter was being bullied in school
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: and that she decided to take matters into her own hands,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: according to Clayton. The superintendent said the parent entered the
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: school during an extracurricular activity. Gator said, we had a
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: parent who went around the back of the building who
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: entered the non-authorized area without permission. Our staff immediately responded
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: and removed the parent from the building. He said the
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: district has very strict rules about anybody entering the schools
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: without permission, and they're now looking into how that parent
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: got inside. School districts working with Corring Township Police on
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: the matter during the investigation. Not sure if any charges
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: are going to be filed. That's weird. Police investigating a
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: second threat made against New Richmond Middle School apparently this
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: week after administrators received word Thursday night, last night, of
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: a group chat with more than 40 members targeting the
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: school community. District officials notified the threat about 7 p.m.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: according to letters sent to families by the new rich
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: and exempted village school district superintendent, Paul Daniels, coming two
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: days after an eighth grader was arrested and charged for
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: allegedly threatening on Snapchat to shoot up the middle school.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: Daniels said the district's actively coordinating with local law enforcement
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: to conduct thorough investigation and already has verifiable names connected
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: to the incident. According to Daniels, he said, in this instance,
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: the group chat in question appears to have over 40
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: members or numbers. When we have additional information from law enforcement,
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: we will share it. We thank you for your trust
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: in us as we work together for the safety and
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: security of our students and staff. Leaders urging anyone with
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: specific details, including names, locations, or identifiable phone numbers to
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: report them immediately to local police. and through the district's
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: Stay Safe Speak Up tip line. Daniel said, any specific
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: information you share with us can quickly be passed on
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: to Iowa law enforcement so they can do their work
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: and keep us all safe. Social media sucks. I'm sorry.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: That wasn't in the article, by the way. That just
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: thought came immediately to mind. 31-year-old Texas registered sex offender
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: arrested yesterday after Hamilton County deputies responded to a panhandling call.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: finding him at a gas station with a teenager that
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: had been reported missing from Houston. This is according to
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: the sheriff's office spokesperson. Excuse me. Deputies called the Speedway
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: gas station 12,000 block of Montgomery Road to investigate the
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: report of a female panhandler. According to Kyla Woods, the spokesperson,
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Woods said the routine call for service quickly developed into
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: an investigation involving a 17-year-old reported missing from Houston. They
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: determined the teenager with Brandon McClurkin, a registered sex offender
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: in Texas. McClurkin taken into custody, charged with interference with custody,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: fifth-degree felony, and contributing to the delinquency of minor. Apparently,
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: he could also be facing charges in Texas, being taken
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: to the Hamilton County Justice Center, where he will be
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: held pending arraignment. Well, at least they got him. 535-55 care.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: See the talk station. Stack is stupid. Come in your way.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: Or phone calls. Either way, I'll be right back. 55K
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: talk station.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: Can you play John the Fisherman?
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Must be Friday.
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: 539.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: Oh, roughly thereabouts. The answer is always yes to that question.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: And always making at least one person happy. Beyond Joe Strecker. Jeff,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: good morning. I know you're out there. You should get
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: a message. Instant message for him with a countdown. I
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: guess he's a fellow Primus fan. Well, it's time for
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: The Stack is Stupid. You can feel free to call, though, 513-749-5500-800-823-TALK.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: He's at it again, Joe Strecker and The Stack is Stupid.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: You know, my lament in life, Joe Strecker, is that
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: I never quite made it to six feet tall. Five,
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: ten and a half is as far as I got
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: in my height. He's always like, gosh, I wish I
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: was at least six feet tall. I don't know, there's
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: something magical about that six feet tall number when you're
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: a guy. Maybe you feel differently. If you're north of
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: six feet, you know, congratulations. But actually, this article made
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: me feel better, even though I can't read it, Joe.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: What article are you talking about, Brian? Yeah, you put
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: the stack of stupid together. New York Post headline. Real
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: average penis size according to 33 studies, both length and girth.
• 24:45
  Speaker 6: All right.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, we're all gloom and doody this week.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: Something to brighten my day. Anyway, you can look for
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: it yourself. I am not going to go through the details.
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: Honolulu.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: We had a woman in a head of confrontation with
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: a naked kidnapping suspect near Diamond Head. And she's out
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: warning beach goers. Encounter happened. After a high-profile kidnapping that
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: was captured on surveillance video earlier last Monday afternoon, Cromwell's Beach,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: former Hawaii resident Kalia Figueroa, resting on the sand, eating
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: a bowl of rice or something, woke up to find
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: a completely nude guy coming toward her and then standing
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: just a couple feet away from her. Why are you
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: doing that?
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: They'll never find out. Figueroa said, I'm laying down, and
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: he's obviously standing. At this point, he's nude. which is
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: obviously a very threatening stance. It could be. She immediately
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: began yelling for him to back off. She said, I
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: started screaming at him to get away from me. I
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: just said, what are you doing, bro? Get away from me. Like,
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: back up. Said this guy showed no facial expressions, but
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: had a, quote, crazy, fiery, close quote, look in his eyes.
• 26:04
  Speaker 7: As is tradition.
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: I know.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: She said, it seemed like he wanted to hurt me.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: It looked like he wanted to eat me, to be honest. phrasing.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: Blackie had a hunger in his eyes that he was
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: just so unsettling. I think she actually means consume, Joe. Actually,
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: as in eat her. Literally. When I was screaming at him,
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: he wasn't really reacting at all. Just kind of mumbled
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: and gestured towards the water like I'm just going for
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: a swim. This guy, she said, did go swimming. She
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: later approached a man and a woman in the beach,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: but both steered clear of him. At the time, she
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: had no idea the man standing over her was the
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: suspect in a violent crime that had been committed just
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: an hour earlier, a mile and a half away. According
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: to prosecutors, this guy who's named Coelho had attacked a
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: 24-year-old stranger in the parking lot of a condominium complex
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: near Diamond Head. They got that on surveillance video showing
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: the suspect's truck arriving at the complex 1130 in the morning,
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: leaving 20 minutes later. It remained about an hour. The
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: truck returned a little bit later in the day. Prosecutors
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: say this Coelho guy stalked, chased, and grabbed the woman
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: carrying her 35 feet towards his truck while she fought back,
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: swinging her limbs, pulling his hair, and screaming until he
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: finally let her go. He was arrested later that day.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: He's been charged with kidnapping and harassment. This Figueroa woman
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: said she actually drove past officers arresting Coelho that afternoon
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: without realizing who he was until she saw the news coverage.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: That would be really weird, wouldn't it? She said, I
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: was so in shock seeing that video and seeing his mugshot.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: It just makes me want to give a message out
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: to women to be vigilant on the beach. Also, just
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: be aware of your surroundings. Yep, keep your head on
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: a swivel. Isn't that right, Bobby? He's out there somewhere.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: Dell City, Oklahoma, where police arrested 30-year-old Britt Hammonds for
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: walking around a neighborhood. What day is it? Naked. Why
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: are you doing that? Lieutenant Blake Reichert with the Dell
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: City Police Department. Our dispatch began receiving calls about a
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: guy walking around exposing his genitalia and, yes, indeed, pleasuring himself.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Of course he was. Dispatchers got multiple calls about Hammonds,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: but when officers got there, they couldn't find him. Another
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: 9-1-1 eventually led police to a nearby home where neighbors
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: saw Hammonds run inside. Body camera footage released by the police.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Show him checking an open window and finding Hammond's inside.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: Ordering him out for several minutes. He did not come out.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: Eventually jumped out of a window into the backyard where
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: officers tasered him and then took him into custody. As
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: is tradition. 545-55-KRC-D Talk Station. More stupid or phone calls
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: either way. Don't go away.
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: This is 55-KRC and I heart rate.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: 549-55-KRC-D Talk Station. Tech Friday with Dave Hatter. Frightening story
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: to start out right out of the gate with him.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: Unvetted artificial intelligence agents are accessing U.S. bank accounts. Men
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: of the world of AI and the world of someone
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: on a switch of power. That's the most frightening thing.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: I just think of all that we have saved and
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: put away, which exists in this cloud environment. The record
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: of our 401k holdings, for example, just immediately being just.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that's even possible, but it sure
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: as hell sounds like it these days. Anyway, let's go
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: back to the stack of stupid. And Maryland, surveillance video
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: showing an 81-year-old man escaping naked. from a Cecil County
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: home after investigators say he was tied to a chair, beaten,
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: and burned with heated syrup. It's past Wednesday, Chestnut Drive
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: in Elkton, Maryland. Deputies responded at 8.30 in the morning,
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: finding the victim with visible injuries to his head and
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: his body. A nearby neighbor who asked to remain anonymous,
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: speaking with local news, said his doorbell rang that morning.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: They checked the camera and they saw an injured man
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: standing on the front porch. According to the neighbor, he's
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: like real frantic and asking for help. Neighbor initially hesitated
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: to let the stranger in, but then realizes the guy
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: needed medical attention. Little hesitant at first, he said, but
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: then when I saw he was injured, I'm like, he really,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: really needs help. Called 911, brought the victim a blanket
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: while waiting for the deputies to show up. Then asked
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: the guy in for a towel because he wasn't clothed,
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: and neighbor said, I brought him a blanket. Seeing him
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: out here shivering, neighbor said the victim explained why he
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: had gone to the home. He was like, you know,
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: I was just here to give her money for her
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: kid's birthday, and then I'm being held hostage. and all
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: this sort of stuff, the neighbor said. According to investigators,
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: the victim had gone to meet 31-year-old Taylor Storm Falcone,
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: unaware that the 28-year-old Austin Michael Massacallo was inside the house.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: Cecil County Sheriff's Office Captain Holmes described what allegedly happened next.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: The male suspect assaulted him, tied him to a chair
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: using a cord, and proceeded to use torture-like methods on him,
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: including punching him with a closed fist. Investigators allege this
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: Maniscalco guy also held a knife to the victim's throat,
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: heated syrup in a microwave, and poured it over this
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: old guy's body, causing burns. Maniscalco allegedly demanded a combination
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: to a safe at the victim's home. Sheriff Holmes, ultimately
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: the male had taken a black marker. and wrote the
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: combination to his safe across the 81-year-old's forehead. Authorities say
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: Maniscal also marked the victim's chest, allegedly indicating where he
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: planned to carve the man's heart out. Investigators say Maniscal
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: stole $ 80, a gold chain, a gold Seiko watch, gold bracelet,
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: and keys to the victim's Chevy Corvette, GMC Sierra, and
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: Cadillac Escalade. Falcone left during the alleged assault, but investigators
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: believe the pair conspired to lure the victim to the residence,
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: detained him, and robbed him, which clearly happened. Authorities also
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: investigated whether the suspects intended to gain access to the
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: victim's home and safe. He did manage to free himself,
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: of course, and went to that neighbor's house. Debatees got
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: a search warrant. Maniscalco initially ignored commands to surrender. They
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: breached the door using an armored Bearcat vehicle. He then
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: surrendered and was taken into custody.
• 32:19
  Speaker 9: As is tradition.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: During a search, investigators reported recovering the victim's stolen belongings,
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: along with a cord and chair described in the account
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: Falcone arrested when she returned to the home. Manoscalo facing
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: charges including robbery, first-degree assault, theft, reckless endangerment, and false imprisonment,
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: along with several conspiracy charges, including robbery, first-degree assault, and
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: second-degree assault and theft. Judge Denise Wilson set Falcone's bail
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: at $ 5, 000. Sounds like Hamilton County, Joe. Colchester. I don't
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: know where that is. Anyway, a guy that was arrested
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: for assault following a domestic disturbance happened over this past weekend.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: Caught also with several explosive devices. Christian Eric Nelson Fricker, 36,
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: charged with possession of explosive, possession of exploding fireworks, first
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: degree assault, risk of injury to a child, breach of peace.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: taken to custody naked after the assault on Halloween, according
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: to state police. They said via press release that Fricker
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: had used an edged weapon to injure the neck of
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: an unnamed household member, adding that there was a child
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: present at the residence while the assault was taking place.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: They also sent the bomb squad to the house, where
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: numerous energetic IEDs, I'm reading the quote, and, quote, M devices,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: close quote, were found and seized. Officials did not release
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: additional information on that. Bond, $ 175, 000. Obviously not in Hamilton County. CJ,
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: welcome to the morning show, and happy Friday. Thanks for
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: calling in this morning.
• 33:56
  Speaker 9: Oh, happy Friday to you, too. There's a couple of
• 33:59
  Speaker 9: things about the stock market, and a lot of people
• 34:01
  Speaker 9: lose a lot of money by basing the future.
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: Off of one day.
• 34:05
  Speaker 9: But I think what happened yesterday is a couple of things.
• 34:08
  Speaker 9: Number one, if you notice, the market started to really
• 34:12
  Speaker 9: tank once Elizabeth Warren and Jamie Raskin came out and said,
• 34:16
  Speaker 9: we're calling CEOs before Congress, and we're going to force
• 34:19
  Speaker 9: them to resign. That just shivers through the market, and
• 34:24
  Speaker 9: that is a lasting statement, by the way, that will
• 34:28
  Speaker 9: come back to haunt a lot of people in their
• 34:31
  Speaker 9: 401Ks and 403Bs because these two fools now have the
• 34:35
  Speaker 9: power of the gavel and also subpoenas. Number two, a
• 34:41
  Speaker 9: lot of these investors woke up and said, oh, my goodness,
• 34:45
  Speaker 9: we lost how many governorships and how many state legislatures
• 34:49
  Speaker 9: just flipped the Democrats? And they're like, a lot of
• 34:53
  Speaker 9: people may not like the AI centers, but they love
• 34:56
  Speaker 9: their jobs. And a lot of the stock market and
• 34:59
  Speaker 9: a lot of these jobs are coming out of the
• 35:01
  Speaker 9: two things, AI centers and energy production.
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: And the Democrats are going to go after both.
• 35:07
  Speaker 9: Investors know it. And I think we are far more
• 35:11
  Speaker 9: likely to see $ 40, 000 or $ 30, 000 Dow versus a $ 60, 000 Dow.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: Well, I know many people have predicted exactly what you're
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: just saying. We're going to have to wait and live
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: through it. But you are right. And, you know, going
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: back to my point that I've been making for years
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: and years and years, you know, the real nefarious component
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: of all this is they, the Democrats, the left, of course,
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: the socialists and communists, and they compare our situation as
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: being so grand and glorious here because we have outperformed
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: the rest of the world more than any other country
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: in the history of mankind. They hate our success. They
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: hate it. If you think about what socialists are, I
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: always call it shared misery. I know what socialism is.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: We're supposed to just sort of sit equally at the
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: table and be all equally aligned. They view that on
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: a global basis. Hell, there are third world countries out
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: there that don't even have running water. And we've got
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: indoor plumbing everywhere and air conditioning everywhere. You can go
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: on and on and on and on. They hate that.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: They hate it. They loathe it. And the only people
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: that are allowed to have nice things are, well, yeah,
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: the party leaders, which is the case in every socialist, communist,
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: or any dictatorial regime. You've got winners and losers, and
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: the political power, the political party, are the ones that
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: will live in grand, glorious style compared to you peons
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: out there who voted them into office and brought down
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: the money-making reality that is the United States of America.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: Keeping the world afloat, basically. 557-55-CARE-CITY-TALK-STATION. Feel free to chime in, disagree, agree.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. I'll let you hear from my listeners.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: But I also am looking forward to the bottom of
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: the hour next because it's Tech Friday with Dave Hatter.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: I'll be right back. At the top of the hour,
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: get the top stories of the day. Let's keep in
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: mind where.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: Hey, it's 6.06 here at 55KRCD Talk Station. Hope you're
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: having a very happy Friday. Try to make it so. Anyway,
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: stick around. We'll be listening to the bottom of the
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: hour every Friday at 6.30. Tech Friday with Dave Hatter.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: An interesting story. First up, unvented artificial intelligence agents accessing U.S.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: bank accounts. Also, Ohio's auditor website and online accounts were
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: down following a cyber attack.
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  Speaker 2: Great.
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: Plus, Delta was targeted in a federal investigation into personalized pricing,
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: which I drew a parallel to to the taxation system.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: The more you make, the more you pay, which is
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: basically what personalized pricing is. So, lawful, unlawful, we'll talk
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: about that with Tech Friday's Dave Hatter. Followed by Joshua
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: Lissek with the book Haitians of Springfield. Governor DeWine, are
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: you out there listening? Crystal Rack, the market contractor. Representative
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: for CareSource will be in studio talking about the wonderful
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: group that is the Help Squad. Good morning, Brian Eibold
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: and everyone on the west side who's involved with helping
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: folks on life's margins on the west side of the
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: city of Cincinnati. Today we're going to be talking about
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: the coat drive. It's a sad thing in a country
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: we live in with young people that do not have coats.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: We'll see if we can't solve that problem with Crystal
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: at 730. 805 with TJ Askren, Jungle Gyms. TJ Askren,
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: the wine expert. There's a wine festival. Joe Strecker wants
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: to know if Amy Acton has a VIP pass.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: I love Jungle Jim. So looking forward to having him
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: in the studio, maybe with wine, maybe without. I don't care.
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  Speaker 1: Plus Jack Windsor. Not a happy guy, Jack Windsor. TheOhioPressNetwork.com.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: Jack Windsor. We're talking about post-election commentary. And thank you, Timothy,
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: for forwarding this to me. Now, does anybody else think
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: the election was stolen? I haven't been hearing that from anyone.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: And I don't necessarily think it was. How would I know?
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: But Wayne Allen Root thinks it is just because of
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: the simple mathematics behind all these major blue wave winds.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: And I'm not supporting a conspiracy theory. Good morning, Maureen.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: But he did make some really interesting points in his
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: op-ed piece the other day. Question, if the bluest states
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: in America, California, New Jersey, New York, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Massachusetts, Illinois, Maryland, Oregon, Washington,
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: suddenly all turned red, Would this seem realistic to Democrats?
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: Would they question the results? If every county in Oregon
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: went red, would anybody believe it? Massachusetts voted by red
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: by one million votes. Would the media accept that result?
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: Would they ask questions? He goes on with a whole
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: bunch of other ones. What if Muslim communities went all red? Dearborn, Detroit,
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: would Muslim leaders question the results? Texas, he says, there
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: is absolutely something rotten. Texas, the vote totals aren't off.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: They are literally impossible, he claims. They're a Marxist fantasy.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: They're a little child's fairy tale. Red rural Texas districts
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: turned Democrat blue? For Talafrico? You're telling me white male
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: Christian hunters and fishermen... And gun owners decided to vote
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: Democrat for the first time in their lives because they
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: now hate President Trump? Two years after electing him in
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: a Texas land side after he secured the border and
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: cut their taxes? It does seem odd, though, doesn't it?
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: He said they didn't decide to suddenly switch from some cool, swaggering,
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: gun-toting four-star general who claimed to be one of them.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: They switched for the first time in their lives to
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: an effeminate, vegetarian, Marxist weirdo who said God is non-binary.
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: Really?
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: He says, it gets better. They switched for Tallarico even
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: though he was AWOL for the campaign trail for two
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: weeks in October with reporters warning he was a mental
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: institution in Ohio suffering from a nervous breakdown. He missed
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: two full weeks on the campaign trail and then he
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: got the most votes ever for a Texas Democrat Senate candidate.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: 600,000 more votes in an off-year election than Kamala Harris
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: received in a presidential election year. He claims it sounds
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: like a repeat of 2020 when Joe Biden hid in
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: his Delaware basement for the whole campaign, wearing a mask,
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: getting the most votes of any president in the history
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: of America, including vote totals blowing out by the popular
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: President Barack Obama, all while hiding in the basement. So
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: what happened Tuesday night, he claims, is impossible. Texas, Kansas, Mississippi, Ohio,
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: All of them changed everything only two years after Trump
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  Speaker 1: landslide because of a war. You know, that's certainly possible.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying this is right, but, you know, you
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: can't overlook his observations. And points out high gas prices.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? We had much higher gas prices
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: under Biden, and that is true. That is undeniably true.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: Something I've been saying such a long time, David Asman
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: writing an op-ed on that. The incredible irony of this
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: election is that Democrats won largely on the issue of
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: higher gas prices when those same Democrats have done everything
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: they can to raise gas prices when they've been in power.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: Go back to President Biden, the very first executive order,
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: his first day in office, canceling the 1,200-mile-long Keystone XL pipeline,
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: which would have brought 830,000 barrels of Canadian oil a
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: day into our refineries.
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  Speaker 2: U.S.
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  Speaker 1: Gulf Coast refineries at the Keystone Pipeline would have served
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: or built and optimized to process Canada's heavy sour crude
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: oils into high-volume, ah, look, diesel and jet fuel. He said,
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: that's exactly the kind of future we most need right now.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: Of course, isn't that true? And it wasn't just Biden. 2015, February,
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: Obama vetoed the Keystone XL Pipeline Approval Act passed by Congress.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: An attempt to send it to override Obama veto failed
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: in March. Other Democratic presidential contenders are on record favoring
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: a carbon tax, which would have an immediate effect on, well, yeah,
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: rising gas prices. Kamala Harris, September 2019, said, under my plan,
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: there will be a carbon fee. Pete Buttigieg campaigned on
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: the idea of an expensive carbon tax. I propose that
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: we access a carbon tax. I know you're not supposed
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: to use the word T. When you're in politics, the
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: T word, but you might as well call it what
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: it is, he said. When he became Secretary of Transportation
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: under Biden, he worked very hard to try to get
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: automotive companies to switch from gas-powered cars to EVs, even
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: though consumers weren't buying and car companies and dealers left
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: warehousing thousands of unsold vehicles. GM absorbed $ 11. 2 billion in losses.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: In cancellation of its EV infrastructure plans, Ford eliminated entire models.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: which Buttigieg had promoted in President Biden test drove. Remember
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: the electric F-150 truck? Yeah, right, well, that didn't work
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: out so well. Ford took a $ 19. 5 billion EV right down.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: But through it all, Buttigieg insisted EV buyers would never
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: go back to gas-powered cars, even after a brutal winter
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: when EV owners in Chicago and elsewhere swore they'd never
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: buy another one as batteries failed to function in the
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: cold weather. He said, of course, the younger generation of
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: Democrat presidential contenders is just as eager to raise your
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: gas prices. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's Green New Deal stuffed into the
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: infamously named Inflation Reduction Act, multi-trillion dollar green energy spending, boondoggle,
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: a major factor in the Biden administration's, remember this? No,
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: apparently you didn't going into the election, 21.5% cumulative inflation,
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: which is part of the problem we're facing today that
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: everyone wanted to blame on Donald Trump. All these lame
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: brain ideas and unworkable investments ended up creating big increases
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: at the pump that dwarfed today's prices. Let's remember, gas
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: prices under Obama peaked at $ 4. 55 a gallon in some
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: areas in May 2011. Now adjust that for inflation. What
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: would that be at the pump right now?
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: $ 6. 78.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: Gas peaked under President Biden $ 5. 03 at June 2022, which
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: translates to $ 5. 79 a day, or today. Highest spike hike
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: under President Trump, $ 4. 55 a gallon in mid-May of this year.
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: You don't remember that? Remember those spikes under Biden and
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: Obama were done because of their legislative action, not because
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: of market forces. Although, yeah, well, legislative action that brought
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: about market forces like the removal of potential 830,000 a
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: day barrels of oil flowing through the XL pipeline. Maybe
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: we wouldn't have a diesel problem right now. I guess
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: we just have to speculate over that one. Now, Trump
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: claims once the Iranian war is over, gas prices will
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: be back around $ 3, which was where they were before
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: the war started. He obviously acknowledges voters became understandably frustrated
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: with the failed estimates of when the war will end
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: and also interject that the war even started in the
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: first place when Trump campaigned on no more wars. Well,
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: that was a big letdown for a lot of people.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: We did see oil prices drop dramatically when it looked
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: like we had a deal with Iran in April, but, well,
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: we didn't. But you can see what it would have
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: been had the deal been entered into. Market stability, lower
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: gas prices, which will happen eventually. We can only pray
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: to God in heaven that we can end that war,
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: at least with some measure of respectability, some face saving.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: But regardless of how it ends, if it ends, the
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: price of gas is going to go down because presumably
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: the ending of the war will result in some stability
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: in the Strait of Hormuz. Obviously at a higher cost,
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: I think, because the Iranians will successfully have secured the
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: ability to tax every ship that goes through. Pay a
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: toll and we won't blow you up. But lower by
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: far than where it is now. What do you think? 616,
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: 55K or CED? talk station and thanks to the listener
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: who chimed in yesterday uh i had one thankfully the
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: talk station 620 at 55k or cd talk station try
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: to make it a happy day it is friday something
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: to be happy about david Indeed. And okay, Maureen, I
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: did hear from at least one person, and I guess
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: there are multiples out there that do believe the election
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: is stolen. She had sent me prior articles about the
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: theory that the election was stolen. I said, nobody has
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: said anything about it. And of course, that was a
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: broad brush statement, and I'm guilty of that from time
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: to time, but I try to clean up the record
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: when I can, and I'm doing that right now. But
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: a rather underwhelming number of people are suggesting it, which
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: is kind of where I glean my broad brush statement.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: But There are growing ranks of folks out there who
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: are starting to question the outcome of the election, and
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: you're going to hear a lot of articles about, oh,
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: my God, this is 2020 all over again. Wash, rinse, repeat.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: This is just a bunch of angry MAGA folks claiming
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: it was a stolen election. So just preparing you for
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: the inevitable. But it sure as hell looks weird, doesn't it? Corey,
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: thanks for calling this morning, and happy Friday to you, sir.
• 48:02
  Speaker 10: Yeah, happy Friday, Brian. Yeah, I did see where Abbott
• 48:06
  Speaker 10: received the same number of votes as he has consistently,
• 48:09
  Speaker 10: and he did this election as well, but the Democrat
• 48:11
  Speaker 10: candidate received two million more votes for the first time
• 48:16
  Speaker 10: to win that in the governorship in Texas, which does
• 48:20
  Speaker 10: kind of raise a red flag.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: Well, as I mentioned yesterday, and I'm not the only
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: one who observed this, the fact that Donald Trump was
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: able to peel off a rather sizable number, but not
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: an overwhelming number of Hispanic votes, in spite of his
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: cracking down on the border. The Hispanic community was not
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: against cracking down and getting some measure of border security
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: because there's a whole lot of Hispanic people that live
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: in southern Texas that were dealing with the problems and
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: the realities of an open border anyway. But it was ultimately,
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: as many pundits have concluded and observed, that the ICE
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: roundup of illegal immigrants, including those that have been here
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: for a long time, rubbed them the wrong way. So
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: if you barely have a coalition of folks that are
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: supporting you, maybe because of one or two issues, and
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: then you do something to piss them off, you have
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: a lot of Hispanic people who care and are concerned
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: about their own members within their own communities, maybe subject
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: to an ICE roundup. You're going to alienate them. And
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: if the only thing connecting you is maybe one issue,
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: and you're on the wrong side with all the other issues,
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: it's certainly possible in a very heavily Hispanic state like
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: Texas for them to, well, for Trump to lose those
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: loosely knit connected constituents. But where were those two million
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: votes four years ago? Well, what percent of the voter
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: turnout are you talking about? Which election? You see, a
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: lot of people, I know a lot of people, I
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: say I don't have the statistics in front of me,
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: but look at our own state. In a great year,
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: which was Tuesday, you got 60% of the people voting.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: That means 40% of the eligible voters didn't get up
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: and vote. Now, presumably, and I'm thinking it was probably
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: the same way in Texas, there are a whole lot
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: of registered voters out there who just didn't bother to
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: go vote. They can come from everywhere. Can you imagine
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: if 100% of the voters showed up? People are like, oh,
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: my God. They never do. They're out there. They are
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: a potential base to get people to vote, but you've
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: got to get them to do so. So while it
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: does seem outrageous, there are 2 million people popping up
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: out of nowhere and voting, and that may be very suspicious,
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: and it should be looked into. I'm not saying that.
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: But I'm saying the possibility of that happening? Absolutely. I mean,
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: look at the city of Cincinnati. You get the last election,
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: not Tuesday, but the prior one two years ago, 25%
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: of registered voters showed up.
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: 25!
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, that leaves a hell of a lot of
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: extra votes out there that didn't show up. So it
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: could have looked like that then if people finally decided
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: to take a stand for themselves in their own backyard,
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: but rarely ever happens. Some people just don't think their
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: vote is worth anything. So we will gradually find out
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: for sure. We'll ultimately know where the votes came from,
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: what constituent groups they came from, who flipped and who didn't.
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: It's just like waiting around. You know, you got to
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: do your quote unquote discovery. My lawyer background, it takes
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: a long time to come up with the answers to questions.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: allegations float around for a long time, and then the
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: receipts show up, and then you can say, see, I
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: was right, or you know what? Maybe there was something
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: to this race, that people who normally don't vote actually
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: did get up and vote for a change. To the
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: tune of 2 million, it's worth looking into. 625, Tech
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• 51:58
  Speaker 1: this is something that's really, really, really been worrying me
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: for a long time. AI agents getting into bank accounts. Dave,
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: welcome back.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: Hey, Brian.
• 52:07
  Speaker 11: Always good to be here. Yeah, I'm concerned about this
• 52:10
  Speaker 11: as well. The good news is large banks have been
• 52:15
  Speaker 11: paying attention to this, have been talking about this. It
• 52:18
  Speaker 11: looks like several have banned this. And the real issue here,
• 52:22
  Speaker 11: and I think.
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: I can just summarize this very easily.
• 52:26
  Speaker 11: It's now possible with AI agents to have an agent
• 52:30
  Speaker 11: that will just go do things on your behalf or
• 52:33
  Speaker 11: on behalf of whatever credentials that are given to it.
• 52:35
  Speaker 11: And what I mean by that is you give it
• 52:37
  Speaker 11: a username and password credentials.
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: It assumes that identity and it does stuff.
• 52:44
  Speaker 11: You've seen stories here in the recent past about agents
• 52:47
  Speaker 11: that have gone rogue and done things they weren't supposed
• 52:50
  Speaker 11: to do, things they weren't.
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: Asked to do.
• 52:53
  Speaker 11: So what the banks are saying is it appears that
• 52:56
  Speaker 11: there's activity like this in their networks. I've seen stories
• 53:01
  Speaker 11: where someone is like, oh, hey, it might be a
• 53:03
  Speaker 11: great idea if I set my AI agent loose and
• 53:07
  Speaker 11: let it act on my behalf to buy me things
• 53:09
  Speaker 11: or something. Now, I don't think this is going to
• 53:11
  Speaker 11: come as a shock to you or anyone that's ever
• 53:13
  Speaker 11: heard me talk about this before. There is absolutely no
• 53:16
  Speaker 11: way I would give any kind of AI agent the
• 53:19
  Speaker 11: capability to to act as me in any sort of
• 53:23
  Speaker 11: financial way. Because as a reminder, folks, AI still hallucinates.
• 53:28
  Speaker 11: It makes things up. It's probabilistic, not deterministic.
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: So there is literally no chance I would allow something
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: to do this.
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: Okay. Well, walk me, the ignorant person that I am,
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: pretend I'm seven. And you're trying to explain how this
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: goes about. Because what you just said to me suggests
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: that I, A logical, reasonable-thinking human being would give artificial
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: intelligence like, what, Grok or ChatGPT my account information along
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: with instructions to act on my behalf? Is that what
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: I heard you say?
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: Yes, that's exactly what I'm talking about.
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: Oh, man, you're going to get me to break the
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: FCC rules. That is blanking insane, Dave. Why would I
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: ever do that?
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. Maybe because you don't understand the risk.
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: Maybe because you think this is cool.
• 54:13
  Speaker 11: You know, this all sort of started, the first article
• 54:16
  Speaker 11: I saw about it anyway was from Axios.
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: Unvetted AI agents are accessing bank accounts, right?
• 54:21
  Speaker 11: And then it goes on to say, you know, banks
• 54:24
  Speaker 11: detecting unauthorized activity from third-party agents operating within customers' online accounts.
• 54:31
  Speaker 11: Some of the biggest financial institutions in the U.S. see
• 54:33
  Speaker 11: customers have given their personal agents, which are unvetted by banks,
• 54:38
  Speaker 11: access to their financial accounts.
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: And so here's the thing. I wouldn't do this in general, okay?
• 54:49
  Speaker 11: And if I were going to use an AI agent
• 54:51
  Speaker 11: in this way, I would make sure it had the
• 54:53
  Speaker 11: least amount of permissions possible.
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: Because here's the real issue, Brian. Besides the hallucination, besides
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: the fact.
• 54:59
  Speaker 11: That these things will do things you didn't necessarily want
• 55:02
  Speaker 11: them or expect them to do, If and when it
• 55:05
  Speaker 11: goes wrong, if you wake up tomorrow and you've done
• 55:07
  Speaker 11: something like this and all of your money's gone, well, whose.
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: Fault is it? Is it the bank's fault? Is it
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: your fault?
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: Your fault.
• 55:15
  Speaker 11: Is it the AI company's fault? Well, I would agree
• 55:17
  Speaker 11: it's your fault. But when your money's gone, from a
• 55:20
  Speaker 11: legal perspective, because as you know, this stuff is all
• 55:22
  Speaker 11: still relatively new and relatively immature, there's no legal framework
• 55:28
  Speaker 11: around any of this.
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: Well, are artificial intelligence companies at least prudent enough to
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: give some sort of– I'll even call it half-assed warning
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: ahead of time that bad things can happen and use
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: at your own risk, caveat emptor kind of stuff, Dave.
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: One would hope.
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: One would hope.
• 55:47
  Speaker 11: And, you know, again, you can make a distinction here between, again,
• 55:51
  Speaker 11: like some rogue thing versus you giving an agent like
• 55:55
  Speaker 11: a Muse or something, Grokbot, other things folks have probably
• 55:58
  Speaker 11: heard of, the access to your bank account.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: Who's smart enough to know the restrictive parameters sufficiently enough
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: that they could prevent it from going outside of them?
• 56:10
  Speaker 11: Well, I would argue, even if you knew how to
• 56:14
  Speaker 11: set the guardrails correctly, the idea of them going rogue,
• 56:18
  Speaker 11: the idea of hallucination, again, it comes up with something
• 56:22
  Speaker 11: that's wrong. Well, if that's only 1% of the time,
• 56:25
  Speaker 11: but it's catastrophic, well, then what?
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: Well, and aren't you also putting into the ether, not
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: that it doesn't exist out there somewhere else, but the
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: information you'd need to access an account, which would include
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: the account information along with passwords to get it, that
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: goes out into the world, I guess. I don't know. Dave,
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: it troubles me that anybody would consider doing this in
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: the first instance. I don't know. Maybe I've just learned
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: too much from you to know that that just sounds
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: like an extraordinarily dumb idea.
• 56:53
  Speaker 11: It would be one thing to say, okay, if it
• 56:56
  Speaker 11: had read-only access and you wanted to know your spending
• 56:59
  Speaker 11: patterns or whatever, but if it has full read-write access,
• 57:03
  Speaker 11: if it can truly act on your behalf, transfer money,
• 57:05
  Speaker 11: make purchases, et cetera, in my mind, the risk of
• 57:10
  Speaker 11: that is way, way, way too high. Now, some banks,
• 57:14
  Speaker 11: so again, Banks are talking about this. Jamie Dimon, the
• 57:18
  Speaker 11: CEO of J.P. Morgan, recently expressed concern about this. This
• 57:22
  Speaker 11: is a quote from him. We're not going to allow
• 57:25
  Speaker 11: just any outside agents to come inside the company because
• 57:27
  Speaker 11: it's just too risky for clients and for J.P.
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: Morgan, unquote.
• 57:31
  Speaker 11: Charles Schwab, CEO, said they're just going to block it outright,
• 57:34
  Speaker 11: at least for now. So, again, the good news is
• 57:37
  Speaker 11: people are, banks are paying attention to this. Hopefully they're
• 57:41
  Speaker 11: warning customers. I think it's an important topic to talk about.
• 57:44
  Speaker 11: At some future point, when this stuff is more mature
• 57:48
  Speaker 11: and it's more proven to work right in a consistent
• 57:50
  Speaker 11: deterministic type fashion, okay, I might consider something like this.
• 57:55
  Speaker 11: Literally no chance I would do something. Absolutely no chance
• 57:58
  Speaker 11: I would give any kind of agent access to anything
• 58:00
  Speaker 11: with my credentials, my identity that could do anything financial.
• 58:05
  Speaker 11: And that would be my advice to anyone listening to this.
• 58:07
  Speaker 11: You are taking enormous risk if you do something like this.
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: And my life is not complicated by the fact that
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: I have to do things like this myself. It hasn't
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: ever been a problem. It's not difficult. It's not time consuming.
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: I just don't understand people's gravitating, gravitating toward this kind
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: of just because it's there.
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: I think they just don't understand the risk.
• 58:25
  Speaker 11: It sounds cool, and they think they're going to save
• 58:28
  Speaker 11: time or be more productive, and I think they just
• 58:32
  Speaker 11: don't understand the risk.
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: That's my best guess.
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: I guess that's a good guess, man. It sounds to
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: me stupid. 637 more with Dave Hatter, including the Ohio
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: Auditor's website, apparently got hacked. Super. It is 640, interestit.com.
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: That's where you find Dave Hatter. Also a Rush fan.
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: Dave Hatter, they played Trees at Rush when I saw
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: them the other night, and I thought of you immediately
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: and actually took photographs and a little bit of video
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: from that, which I'll pass along to you at some point.
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: Rush is going to be performing at the Sphere in May,
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: so out in Vegas. Wouldn't that be great?
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: That would be very cool. I'm sure it will be
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: an amazing show.
• 59:10
  Speaker 7: Oh, my word.
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: That is the backdrop.
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: Yes. Anyhow, since you're a fellow Rush geek like me,
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: thought I'd pass that along to you as we pivot
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: over to the Ohio Auditor's website getting attacked. What's going
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: on here?
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: Well, Brian.
• 59:24
  Speaker 11: To me, this just illustrates nicely the things that we
• 59:27
  Speaker 11: talk about all the time. And I'm not here to
• 59:29
  Speaker 11: throw the Ohio auditor under the bus, just to be clear.
• 59:31
  Speaker 11: I just want to point out, especially for local governments,
• 59:35
  Speaker 11: since you know I'm involved in this myself, local governments
• 59:38
  Speaker 11: are increasingly under attack. Now, interestingly enough, and I say
• 59:41
  Speaker 11: this all the time, Ohio, in my opinion, is a
• 59:44
  Speaker 11: real leader in this space, just across the board. Ohio
• 59:48
  Speaker 11: has a law that requires local governments to do certain things.
• 59:51
  Speaker 11: You'll see how this ties in in a second. Ohio
• 59:54
  Speaker 11: has something called the Ohio Cyber Collaboration Committee that is
• 59:57
  Speaker 11: the home for the Ohio Cyber Reserve and other organizations
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 11: and agencies trying to raise awareness, trying to provide support,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 11: trying to keep these sorts of jobs in Ohio, and frankly,
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 11: trying to protect the Ohio community through the Cyber Reserve,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 11: which is a public-private partnership between civilians and the Ohio
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 11: National Guard. So In almost every way, as certainly compared
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 11: to your neighbors, like us down here in Kentucky, Ohio
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 11: is leading on a lot of these things. But to me,
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 11: this is just illustrative of the fact that A, any
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 11: sort of government agency is increasingly under attack. And B,
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 11: the Ohio Auditor's Office, under Ohio Revised Code 9.64, the
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 11: law that requires Ohio governments to implement a cybersecurity program,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 11: amongst other things, is the office responsible for enforcing it.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 11: So here is the office that is supposed to ensure
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 11: that your village, your township, your city, your county, whatever,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 11: is doing what the Ohio 9.64 rules call for.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: Has been hacked.
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  Speaker 11: Now think about that for a second. And again, I'm
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 11: not here to throw them under the bus. Sadly, these
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 11: kinds of hacks are increasing everywhere, every day on every
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 11: type of organization. I think we talked about the refrigerator
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 11: thing out of France.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: Again.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 11: Physical world, yes. More of these attacks in the EU.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 11: Our physical and digital world are now increasingly interconnected. One
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 11: of the reasons why the AI agent banking story is
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 11: concerning to me. Again, no chance, no chance I would
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 11: do that, Brian, at this point. But the auditor's office
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 11: website has been down for some time now. If you look,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 11: as best I can tell, it still is down, right?
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 11: I'm going to try it while I'm talking to you.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 11: And assuming I'm typing it in right, because it's early
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 11: and I'm old and blind now, Brian. It's still down,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 11: I believe. Let me try to confirm that. It doesn't
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 11: seem to be responding to me. I mean, and this
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 11: has been in the news. Like, here's a story. Ohio
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 11: Auditor's website online account's down after cyber attack.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: That story was published on the 27th.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 11: And unless this problem was on my end somehow, the
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 11: auditor's website is still not working for me. Now, that
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 11: doesn't mean their other backend services are down. And it's
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 11: not entirely clear to me exactly what happened at this
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 11: point from the reporting I've seen. In this article, it says, quote,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 11: out of an abundance of caution, we took the web
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 11: server and online accounts offline while internal and external experts
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 11: scrutinized the threat activity, unquote.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: The bigger point I'm trying to.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 11: Make is, to me, this just illustrates, again, Governments specifically
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 11: under attack and as an organization of any type, as
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 11: a business, as a government, I just can't stress enough, folks,
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 11: you got to take this stuff seriously. There are defenses
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 11: against this. You ran the commercial where we talk about resilience.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 11: Resilience has never been more important. Resilience is the idea
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 11: that things break. It doesn't have to be a cyber attack.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 11: It could be a hard disk failure. It could be
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 11: your internet is taken out. It could be your cloud
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 11: service provider that does X, Y, or Z for you
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 11: is down for some reason. It's thinking about planning for
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 11: what are you going to do when something stops working
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 11: and understanding what's critical in your organization, right? Not everything
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 11: has to have the same level of protection. Not everything
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 11: has the same impact on your organization if it stops
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 11: working for some reason. So, you know, this to me
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 11: just illustrates, again, the idea of resilience. Unfortunately, resilience costs money.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 11: It might be duplicate systems. It might be three or
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 11: four different backups stored in different locations. There's something called
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 11: the backup rule of three, two, one. There's literally nothing
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 11: you can do at this point, Brian. Nothing that will
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 11: make you completely impervious to these kind of things. And
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 11: we're seeing that more and more. But you can defend
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 11: against it, and you can prepare for something bad happening.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: Well, Christine sent me an email while we were talking
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: the last seven minutes. She said, keep asking about AI
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: getting passwords even without permission. It scares her. It scares me.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: And that's why you always emphasize the importance of two-factor authentication.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: Even if they were able to hack in and get
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: your password through some nefarious means, They can't do it
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: unless they have your cell phone to enter the code
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: with a two-factor authentication. Well, that's not as true.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: As it used to be, unfortunately.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 11: So multi-factor authentication, a.k.a. two-factor authentication, a.k.a. two-step verification, depending
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 11: on what platform you're on, is still absolutely critical. I
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 11: don't want people to walk away from this understanding. You
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 11: should turn on multi-factor authentication now. on every account, certainly
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 11: any account that has access to sensitive data and or
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 11: your money, your retirement account, your bank accounts, that sort
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 11: of thing.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: Absolutely critical. However, and we may run out of time
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: in this segment.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: We are.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 11: There's a new sort of attack called a man in
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 11: the middle or adversary in the middle attack where the
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 11: bad guys sit between you and whatever you're trying to
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 11: log into and they're proxying the communication. So you enter
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 11: your username and password, it goes to them, they send
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 11: it to your bank or Microsoft or whatever. When the
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 11: request for the one-time passcode or the MFA code comes back,
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 11: they get that request, send it to you. You have
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 11: no idea they're in the middle of this. You enter
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 11: that code. It goes to them. They send it to
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 11: your bank or Microsoft. When that clears, they say, here's
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 11: your session token, the thing that tells them you've logged in.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 11: Now the bad guys have it.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: This is real.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 11: And there are defenses against this. Fish-resistant MFA, pass keys,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 11: hardware keys. There are ways to defeat this, but they
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 11: require a little more knowledge and, frankly, a little more friction.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 11: But sadly, that's where we're... That's where we are.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: Fish resistant.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: Fish resistant MFA. And that is where we are today.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: Unfortunately, interest it.com to reach Dave and the crew. Don't
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: go away. Delta targeted in federal investigation. It's six 50,
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: 55 care CD talk station at the Friday tech Friday
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: with Dave Hatter interest it.com. If I Dave and all
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: the articles he relies on for the segment at linked in.com,
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: just search for Dave Hatter and you should probably check
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: him out throughout the week. He's always posting great stuff.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: And you know, I don't, I don't like this, Dave,
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: but here's one of the reasons they have established and
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: created these files on us, hoovering up all the data
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: that we give them voluntarily through these free apps and
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: every other form. They know who we are, how much
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: we make, what we buy, and now these major organizations,
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: and there are a lot of allegations about this, are
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: adjusting pricing based upon what you can afford. Now, that's
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: our tax system, isn't it, Dave? The more you make,
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: the more they tax. Well, the more you make, the
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: more they're going to charge you for any given product
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: or service.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: So what you said about why they want your data
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: is absolutely right.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 11: That's a big part of it. And I also need
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 11: to get my plug in, Brian, for Queen City Con.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 11: The premier Midwestern cybersecurity conference starts next Friday. In fact,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 11: probably when I talk to you and Joe, I will
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 11: be on site there at the Hyatt, November 13th through 15th, queencitycon.org.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: Look it up, folks. But yeah, this is a thing
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: that really rubs me the wrong way. Surveillance pricing.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 11: I wrote an article about this back in February when
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 11: I learned about it.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: Primarily, I mean, I knew it was a thing.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 11: But because Maryland banned it. So I did a little
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 11: research for this, and then I want to come back
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 11: and explain it. But so far, from best I can tell,
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 11: four states have actually banned this practice. Maryland, Connecticut, New Jersey.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: And New York.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: All Democrat states.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 11: Several other states looking to ban it. California, Washington, Pennsylvania, Illinois, Minnesota, Tennessee,
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 11: and Vermont. I can tell you, based on the article
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 11: I wrote and the research I've done into this, I
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 11: have reached out to legislators in Kentucky and I'm working
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 11: to try to get something going here. But that said,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 11: I mean, as recently as yesterday, Brian, here's an article.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 11: Digital price tags at grocery stores raise surveillance pricing fears.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 11: There's always been the concept of dynamic pricing.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: Oh, Park River Forest. Yeah. Listen, we joked about it
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: all the time. I lived in Oak Park, and the
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: next neighborhood to the west of Oak Park up in
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: Chicago was River Forest. River Forest, a much wealthier neighborhood
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: than Oak Park. There was the Oak Park price to
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: get your furnace fixed, and then there was the River
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: Forest price to get your furnace fixed. It was more. Why?
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: Because you're in that neighborhood. This is the same damn thing,
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: except they do it, well, electronically.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 11: Electronically. At a lot larger scale with a lot more
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 11: detailed information to really hone it in. So again, things
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 11: like surge pricing on an Uber would be an example
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 11: of this, right? If you use Amazon or Walmart online,
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 11: as they collect more data about you, they know your
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 11: zip code, whatever, of course they could adjust the price.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 11: But in my opinion, this goes much deeper than that. Now,
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 11: thanks to digital price tags, as they mentioned in this story,
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 11: so I'll just quote from this article, from websites to
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 11: brick and mortar stores, it's easier than ever for companies
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 11: to target shoppers with prices based on their personal data. Now,
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 11: a recent change at many grocery stores is raising concerns
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 11: about so-called surveillance pricing, right?
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: You walk in the store, it.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 11: It recognizes your phone they have beacons your phone is
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 11: pinging off of them your phone is connected to you
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 11: they know it's you so you go over and pick
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 11: up a can of spam or whatever and the price
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 11: you see on the digital price tag is different than
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 11: the price i get because they think you make more
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 11: money than me.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: Then get a faraday bag how would you what would
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: the default pricing be the lowest price Who knows?
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: Good question.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 11: But again, at one time, certainly they could do this
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 11: if you were only an online shopper. And it was
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 11: called dynamic pricing. That's been around for a long time.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 11: But now this idea is with even more data than
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 11: ever before. And it's not just e-commerce. It's not just online.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 11: Now in physical stores, because of this technology. And again,
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 11: when you walk in, your phone, if you have the
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 11: Wi-Fi turned on, if you have the Bluetooth turned on,
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 11: A Faraday bag is a great option.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: I recommend Go Dark. Yes, I have one of these
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: for my phone. Shocker option, Brian.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 11: Maybe we do a whole segment on that and how
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 11: to find these things because they're not all the same.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 11: And if you go buy one off Timu for $ 5,
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 11: it probably won't do what it purports to do. But yeah,
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 11: I mean, other than states banning this, your only real
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 11: defense is don't take your phone with you. Turn off
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 11: the Wi-Fi and the Bluetooth or drop your phone in
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 11: a Faraday purse, pouch, bag, whatever. But, you know, until
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 11: this is banned, you're only going to see more and
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 11: more of this. And again, folks, I want to be clear.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 11: This is not just you go online and they know
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 11: your zip code.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: You go online. They know everything about you.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 11: And it's not just online. You walk into a retail store.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 11: They have these systems installed. You may get a higher
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 11: price than me. Again, four states have banned it. Several
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 11: more are looking at it. I'm going to push this
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 11: as hard as I can in Kentucky come January. We'll
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 11: see what happens. But I'll put all this in the
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 11: show notes. Again, I wrote an article about this back
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 11: in February trying to raise the awareness about this.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: This sounds like a Marxist dream. I'm surprised that Democrat
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: states have banned it because if poorer people pay less
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: and richer people pay more, isn't that what they're pushing
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: for constantly with me going back to the tax rates
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: that we all pay as a relative argument?
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 11: Well, there's another interesting angle to this, Brian, which is
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 11: at the end of the day– All of your data
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 11: that they've collected about you may not even be right.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: That's true.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 11: So you might be getting different pricing that's not even
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 11: accurate because the data itself is not correct.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: That is true.
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  Speaker 2: To me, this is just wrong across the board.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 11: And hopefully more states will jump on the bandwagon.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: You know what? 706, your 55-karat CD talk station. Try
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: to make it a happy Friday. I am so excited
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: about this. Next interview here, joining the program, you probably
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: know him given he's a New York Times bestseller of
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: just any number of books that would appeal to my
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: listening audience. Joshua Lysak, he's written books of consequences, best
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: known for multiple literary collaborations. I know one of the
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: books my listeners have read, the New York Times bestseller, Unhumans,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: The Secret History of the Communist Revolutions, and how to
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: cash in on them. Also, Bulletproof, The Truth About the
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: Assassination Attempts on Donald Trump. One hundred and fifteen nonfiction
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: books on politics. He also writes as a ghostwriter. And
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: Joshua Lysak, who's on the program to talk about his
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: next book, which is an eye opener, most notably for
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: my friends here in the state of Ohio, Haitians of
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: Springfield and oral history. Welcome back, Ohio native. Welcome to
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: the program, Ohio native Joshua Lysak. It's a pleasure having
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: you on today, sir. Thank you.
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  Speaker 5: Glad to be here.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: Real quick here before we get to the Haitians of Springfield,
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: how does one become a certified ghostwriter? I'm sorry, that
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: jumped out at me at your resume, sir.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 8: Yes, yes. There is only one post-secondary ghostwriting certification program
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 8: in the world. That's at California State University, Long Beach.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: Anyway.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: Springfield, we all know about it here in the state
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: of Ohio. Apparently Governor Mike DeWine's a real big fan
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: of the Haitian community, and he is happy that they're here.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: I don't know why. I've never been able to figure out.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: But question, how did so many Haitians seemingly overnight end
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: up in Springfield, Ohio, before we dive into the details
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: of this, well, cover-up or narrative presented by the mainstream media? Joshua?
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 5: That's a really good question.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 8: So in my case, what I did is I went
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 8: through all the research locally, and I interviewed everyone that
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 8: I possibly could.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 5: And what I found out was.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 8: Springfield was chosen, not just Haitians themselves, but was chosen
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 8: by the Biden administration for, effectively, population replacement. Across America,
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 8: from 2021 to 2025, vulnerable white working-class Protestant Christian communities
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 8: were chosen to play host to thousands of Somalis, Afghans, Uzbeks, Haitians,
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 8: et cetera, to create, in effect, with the path eventually
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 8: to amnesty, voting blocs that would be loyal to the
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 8: Democratic Party to help shore up a supermajority for Democrats
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 8: over the next 10 to 20 years to help ensure
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 8: that every swing state and even every red state becomes
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 8: a new California, effectively a new one-party state, with Ohio.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 5: Being the being one of them.
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  Speaker 8: Now, prior to the election of Joe Biden, there had
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 8: been a few dozen to a few hundred Haitians living
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 8: in Clark County, Ohio. But upon the opening up of
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 8: the border, the Mayorkas program was to import as many
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 8: third world peoples as possible and spread them across the
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 8: United States. So, Lower estimates are that we have between
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 8: 10 and 11 million illegal.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 5: Immigrants brought in.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 8: And the temporary protected status program was used in order
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 8: to make border jumpers who had committed a violation of
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 8: illegally entering the United States to protect them from deportation.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 8: In the book, I call them Schrodinger's Haitians. People might
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 8: be familiar with the Schrodinger's cat metaphor for thinking about
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 8: the superposition of the cat concept in quantum mechanics, where
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 8: there's this idea that if you don't know what the
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 8: fate of the hypothetical cat is, it's neither alive nor dead,
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 8: nor both.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 5: It's a fun thought experiment people might be familiar with.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 8: So in this case, the Haitians have been both legal
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 8: immigrants and illegal immigrants. And if the Haitians in Springfield
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 8: and elsewhere, should they rack up multiple misdemeanor charges, they
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 8: lose temporary protective status.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 5: So it's conditional.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 8: And what I found interviewing more than 400 citizens in Springfield, Ohio,
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 8: which is my neighbor, by the way, I live over
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 8: in Dayton, just a short drive away. What I found
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 8: is that police were letting off patients for drunk driving,
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 8: driving without a license, causing wrecks, and so much worse,
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 8: while of course continuing to police and ultimately prosecute heritage
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 8: citizens for the same things.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 5: I also spoke with whistleblowers, including those in the police.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 8: Department, those at the county court, and they said that
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 8: this is the problem that they were fully aware of,
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 8: is that Haitians were basically being treated with gloves relative
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 8: to the heritage citizens in order to protect their temporary
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 8: protected status.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: That was a policy in place at the police department.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, Joe Biden can want something and he can
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: facilitate the open borders and he can arrange perhaps and
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: coordinate the Haitians ending up at any given location. But
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: how can he force a local, presumably conservative police department
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: to to implement a policy that is contrary to the
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: law and unequal enforcement of the law.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 8: Clark County is entirely Republican. This is what I think
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 8: is important to grasp. And there is nothing Republicans fear
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 8: more nationwide than being called racist.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: Is that it?
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 5: That is it. That is 100% it.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 8: Oh, my God.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 10: Yes.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 5: So there is almost no humiliation here.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 8: A Republican will not prostrate themselves to if it means
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 8: not being called racist.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: That's nonsensical. People need to grow a spine, Joshua. I'm sorry.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: I've been hearing this argument, and it flies in the
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: face of common sense, logic, and reason. It doesn't matter
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: the color of their skin. This is all about, you know. Anyway,
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry to interrupt. You're the author of the book.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: I should be hearing what you're having to say. But
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: it just bothers me and sickened me that there are
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: so many people out there that lack the spine to
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: call it what it actually is, which is what you're
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: doing in this book.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 8: Even simply stating, hey, I witnessed this thing or this
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 8: thing happened to me. For example, there's all manner of
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 8: culture clashes. So for an example, in third world cultures,
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 8: there's a level of social primitiveness and lack of manners
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 8: that shocks the first world. For example, let's talk about relationships.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 8: They don't have a concept for what we would call
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 8: domestic violence.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 5: Physical abuse.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 8: Consent, if you know what I mean, doesn't exist in
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 8: the third world worldview. And you bring that into America,
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 8: and you have particularly white working class Christian conservative women
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 8: who are being targeted by, I will be blunt, predators
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 8: from the third world. What becomes the defense? There's no
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 8: hashtag me too anymore.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 5: There's no believe all women.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 8: You only say those Haitian men ganged up on you.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 8: You only say that Haitian chased you with a machete
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 8: through the street. You only say the Haitians ate your
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 8: cat because you're racist. That is the beginning and end
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 8: of the rebuttal. And there are several NGOs, charitable foundations,
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 8: and far left-wing so-called churches in the Springfield area that
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 8: continue to advocate for and protect the Haitians. And that's
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 8: what's happening right now. There's a vast network of influencers
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 8: and even taxpayer-funded, grant-funded, charitable gift-funded organizations Churches and nonprofits
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 8: who are protecting the Haitians currently, there are thousands of
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 8: them still in Springfield, and they are fully illegal status
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 8: now that TPS has been expired thanks to the Supreme Court,
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 8: which was finally a good decision from them. But the
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 8: population is being protected. So there's pastors, there's preachers, there's priests,
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 8: there's both evangelical and Catholic churches and organizations and charities.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 8: And what they're doing is they're bringing food to the
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 8: Haitians who are in hiding. They're driving them to and
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 8: from their places of employment where they're illegally working, getting
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 8: paid cash at the table, buying them more cars, etc.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 8: The amount of insanity that has occurred to benefit the
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 8: Haitians at the expense of the citizenry is just ridiculous.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 8: It's just ridiculous.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 5: I spoke.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 8: In the course of releasing this book and promoting patients
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 8: of Springfield, the book, there have been more and more
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 8: people who've come forward to share their story with what
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 8: they observed. So I spoke with someone else who worked
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 8: at Jobs and Family Services. She showed up to the
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 8: book launch last week. By the way, a member of
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 8: Antifa came to protest.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 5: It's quite something.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 8: And there were also some other troublemakers who came to
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 8: film it and threaten and intimidate the establishment.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 5: It was something else.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 8: The amount of hate and vitriol there is for this
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 8: book is almost unbelievable. But when you understand that everyone
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 8: who has talked about their negative experience with Haitian migrants
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 8: in Springfield, Ohio, has been subject to death threats, they've
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 8: had their business shut down via negative reviews and boycotts
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 8: led by leftists in the area, or they have lost friends,
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 8: or they've lost their job, or they've been threatened, for example.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 8: The first confirmed story of Haitians consuming cats.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 5: And by the way, it wasn't just to eat them.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 8: It was for a Haitian blood ritual, which they practice
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 8: animal sacrifice in their primitive culture there on Hispaniola and
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 8: elsewhere in the world. It was city employees who broke
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 8: the story. They were threatened with losing their pensions, and
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 8: they were made to sign non-disclosure and confidentiality agreements to
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 8: kind of wipe the story away. And that story happened
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 8: also not just with cats, but with ducks and geese.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 8: There were a number also of pigs that were taken
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 8: and sacrificed. What many Christian Americans would refer to as
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 8: utterly demonic rituals, which voodoo, of course, is, they believe
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 8: in spirit possession and all manner of what we would
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 8: consider in the first world absurdities. Like zombies, for example,
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 8: which of course are like a fantasy horror concept in
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 8: the West.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 8: They believe it's real, 100% real.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm quick to say there are a lot of
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: weirdos out in the world. We're not in a theocracy.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: I suppose anyone's entitled to believe whatever the hell they want.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: We have Satanists out in the world, but this is
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: a horse of a different color in the sense that
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: You're talking about people who are here illegally, intentionally brought
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: here for the purpose of this population replacement. The whole
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: underlying point is what's nefarious. And honestly, Joshua, I think
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: the diversion comes in and the left gets a benefit
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: when we start criticizing the specific practices of their religion.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: What I think we should be focusing on, perhaps the
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: disparate treatment under the law, letting people go who have
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: committed a crime merely because they are part of This
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: immigrant population, that in and of itself is racist. That is,
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: I think, unlawful in and of itself, and that these
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: policies exist and are being followed by people in conservative
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: neighborhoods like Springfield. That, to me, is the big part
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: of this story. Don't you think, Joshua?
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 8: I think the worst part is that there is a
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 8: sense that you can't tell the truth about what's happened.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 5: Or you're a liar.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 8: There are quite a few animal rights activists in Springfield
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 8: who have been deeply troubled by the inconspicuous, let's say,
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 8: slaughter and consumption of feral cats, Springfield cat colonies got
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 8: completely wiped out by the Haitians when they showed up.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 8: Then you have the regular abduction, spell it D-U-C-K, of
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 8: ducks and geese from city parks, from city roads, which
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 8: everyone has a story. Some people even have photo and
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 8: video of those. You have deer, of course.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 5: And there's a.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 8: Sense of like, well, we have a hunting and fishing
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 8: license system here in Ohio. But what is the penalty
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 8: for poaching? Have any Haitians been arrested for poaching?
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 5: No, absolutely not.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 8: So the issue with animals very quickly becomes an issue
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 8: with the law. In fact, the funny part is about
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 8: the eating the cat story is that's one of the
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 8: only positives I've consistently heard from heritage citizens, that there
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 8: was such a feral cat colony problem where aggressive animals,
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 8: you know, unneutered cats kind of living fairly were causing
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 8: a real problem for indoor-outdoor pets, that people were glad
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 8: that the Haitians came and took care of that for them.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 8: Of course, there are also animal rights activists who were
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 8: very upset by this, but that was largely not a
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 8: complaint from the Springfield people, yet that's the story that
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 8: went viral in 2024.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: Thank God the Haitians showed up and got rid of
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: our feral cat problem. Can we get them to start
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: maybe sacrificing rats? Solve a problem in the New York
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: City area and other cities that have been overrun with rats, Joshua.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: Sorry for the bit of interjection of levity here, but
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: I'm just appalled by this. I noted one of the
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: commentators on the Amazon page where your book is being sold.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: It's also on my blog page, 55KRC. com, so my listeners
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: can gobble up this book, which they will. Poor Tammy Poe,
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: she's born and raised in Springfield. One person came to
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: Springfield and cared enough to find the truth. That person
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: was Joshua Lysak, author of this book. I guess, how
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: is it First off, I'm just befuddled the idea that
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: these these policies can be enshrined within law enforcement. Did
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: Mike DeWine insist on that happening? Was he complicit in
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: all this? But also that the mainstream media seems to
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: just ignore and have no interest in reporting on this
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: population change. How is it that everybody can be so
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: bought up or is this all them being members of
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: the religion that is socialism or communism or whatever it
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: is they're pushing for?
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 8: Well, I think something that is worth pointing out is
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 8: that the media that covers it both locally, nationally, and
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 8: globally is ideologically aligned with the left. And it was
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 8: ultimately a left-wing administration that brought thousands of Haitians into Springfield.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 8: And by the way, the numbers that have been shown
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 8: to me by whistleblowers from the state of Ohio, specifically
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 8: the treasurer and the auditor office, of the treasurers and
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 8: auditors off respectively, flies in the face of what the
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 8: city said. The city of Springfield officially says that it
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 8: was between 10,000 and 15,000 Haitians came into a city
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 8: of about 59,000 residents, Springfield, Ohio, from 2021 to 2023 approximately.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 8: The numbers I was shown is that it's two to
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 8: three times higher.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 5: It's between 32,200 and 35,000. Significantly off.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 8: And that right there shows that there are two realities. Every,
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 8: let's say, business owners, large employers, property owners, landlords, let's say,
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 8: who are able to profit off of an influx of
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 8: a population. What are they saying? We love our Haitian neighbors.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 8: Why do they love their so-called Haitian neighbors? Because that
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 8: means rents go up so that they can double, if
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 8: not even triple, the rent that they're charging and still
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 8: get it. And wages collapse. I heard story after story
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 8: after story of Americans who are earning $ 30 an hour
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 8: plus working a living wage being made to train their
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 8: Haitian replacements who barely spoke English. but we're only earning $ 10, $ 11,
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 8: $ 12 an hour.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: There you go. There you go, Joshua. I'm sorry, man.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: We are out of time, but I could talk to
• 1:28:21
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  Speaker 1: giving some love to the Help Squad Cincy. Go find
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: them online, thehelpsquadscincywithaway.com. Brian Eibold established this charitable organization to
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: help people living on life's margins on the West Side,
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: folks that have a problem in their world where maybe
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: a little assistance with rent will get them over the hurdle,
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: where having a car fix will allow them to keep
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: their job. And, well, maybe getting a coat is an
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: important thing as we fast approach winter. Someone who knows
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  Speaker 1: all about this from CareSource.com. Crystal Rock, I know you're
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: supposed to be in studio, Crystal, but that's okay. I
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: understand you're stuck in traffic, but talking with you about
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: this important and outstanding event coming up is great. So
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  Speaker 1: welcome to the morning show.
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  Speaker 8: Good morning, Brian.
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  Speaker 7: Thank you so much for having me on. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 7: just really wanted to sing praises to the help squad
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 7: and all that they're doing here in Cincinnati and really
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 7: talk about the coat drive that they're having and a
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 7: big event that they're doing tomorrow is going to be
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 7: at the Mount St. Joseph University football team. They're going
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 7: to set up to collect coats for students in the area.
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 7: you know, the cold weather is upon us. So they
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 7: really want to help those in the area. And that's
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 7: one of the ways CareSource is going to help them
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 7: out with that. That was a community connection I was
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 7: able to make since my son plays on the football
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 7: team there. And we're so excited to be able to
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 7: contribute to the help squad, but also help the students
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  Speaker 7: and families.
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  Speaker 8: In this area.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Crystal Rack from CareSource, how did you find out
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  Speaker 1: about the help squad and I'm really appreciative of CareSource
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: joining forces with the Help Squad and helping them out
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: because it really is just an outstanding charity.
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  Speaker 8: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 7: So the Help Squad is a nonprofit just like CareSource is.
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  Speaker 7: We are actually– when you have Medicaid, you have a
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 7: choice in the state of Ohio, and we are one
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 7: of those choices. We're the only managed care organization that
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 7: is a choice in Ohio that is nonprofit. So we
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 7: like to help other nonprofits with our nonprofit status also
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 7: and And help our members and potential members with whatever
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 7: their needs are. So CareSource was started by a social worker.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 7: Her name was Pam Morris over 30 years ago. And
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 7: she realized quickly that someone could not focus on their medical, dental,
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 7: or vision needs if they had other needs of social
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 7: determinants of health. That they needed clothing, housing, food, whatever
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 7: that might be. You know, that health wellness went to
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 7: the back because those basic needs need to.
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  Speaker 4: Be met first.
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  Speaker 7: So we're very passionate. Right, about helping these organizations in
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 7: the community that are there to support our members and
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 7: potential members like the Help Squad.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and keep people independent. One of the neat things
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: about the Help Squad is they're really good at vetting.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they're not going to be trying to provide
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: some assistance to someone who is not going to be
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: able to get out of the hole they've dug themselves in.
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  Speaker 1: That's like for much larger federal programs. But the idea
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: of maybe fixing a car. You know, that person needs
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: to get to work. And if you don't fix the car,
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: they're not going to go to work. They're not going
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: to be able to pay the rent. And then it
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: becomes a downward spiral that one little bit of help,
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: temporary assistance can put them back and keep them in
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: a position of stability. And I think that's a wonderful thing. And,
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: of course, if you're going to be standing around for
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: the bus and you're a child in the middle of
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: winter and you don't have a coat, that may pose
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 1: a challenge to your educational development.
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  Speaker 7: Absolutely, Brian. I mean, I think that you're spot on.
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  Speaker 7: You know, Brian Eibold with the Help Squad, he has
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 7: realized that just this one little help forward, you know,
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 7: with a car repair can really change a family's life.
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 7: And I've been working with Brian and the Help Squad
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 7: to also let them know about CareSource's life services. So
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 7: because we're a nonprofit, we want to give our members more.
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 7: We call ourselves Healthcare with Heart, and I've seen that
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  Speaker 7: be true in the time that I've been here and
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 7: that we do offer life coaching. So we have a
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 7: life services program. It helps our members who just need
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 7: that person to help them through the crisis or really
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 7: to kind of not just to put a bandaid on something,
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 7: but what can we do to make a difference and
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 7: a change so that we don't get into these situations again,
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 7: so that you can focus on other things in your
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 7: life by getting some of these smaller goals met.
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  Speaker 1: That's just a great concept. It's a perfect concept. Now,
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: I want to give a shout-out to Kroner Dry Cleaners
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  Speaker 1: because I was getting ready to ask you, are you
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: expecting people to drop off brand-new coats for these people
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: in need, or will you take gently used items?
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  Speaker 7: Absolutely. Brian is all about the gently used as well.
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  Speaker 7: What you have to give, you know, we will take it.
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  Speaker 7: We have those kiddos, like you said, waiting out in
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 7: the cold. They really do need these coats. And some
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 7: of these kiddos who live in school districts that may,
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 7: they live in so much distance with the school, they
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 7: may not be provided busing.
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  Speaker 8: So some of these.
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  Speaker 7: Kids are walking to school.
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  Speaker 1: Not shocking me at all. Now, gently used or new
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  Speaker 1: children's coats or adult coats, too. This isn't just children.
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  Speaker 1: There are adults out in the world, again, trying to
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: get to the job, need to be warm. There's a
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: multitude of needs out there, sadly speaking. But where do
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: people drop them off? How long does this go on?
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: What are all the specific details? I know you went
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: through them earlier, but now the people's attention is like,
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: I can help out. I've got coats in the basement
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: I haven't worn in years. Pull them out. Donate them
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: to the help squad. How do we go about doing
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: all this and where and when and all the other details?
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  Speaker 7: Amazing, absolutely. So we have a great opportunity tomorrow at
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 7: the Mount St. Joseph football game at Shoulder Field. Kickoff
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 7: is at 1.30, and the help squad will be there
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 7: collecting coats and monetary donations to buy new coats or
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 7: winter accessories. They can also drop them off at Kroner
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 7: Dry Cleaners and Resounding Joy Church, Minutemen Press in Colerain,
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 7: as well as the Green Township Fire Departments. Bucketheads, Sports
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 7: Bar and Grill.
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  Speaker 1: Of course.
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  Speaker 7: Those are all places you can drop them off.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: I was waiting for Bucketheads. It's like Brian Eibold's Home
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 1: Away From Home.
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  Speaker 8: Absolutely.
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 4: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 7: And we do want to let people know that this
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 7: is just one thing that the Help Squad is going
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 7: to help with during this winter season. But two, I
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 7: got to just say this, it is November, so it
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 7: is open enrollment for Medicaid. And You know, you can
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 7: make a choice now through the Ohio Department of Medicaid
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 7: to switch your managed care plan if you want to.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 7: If anybody who is on Medicaid, if their managed care plan,
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 7: if their insurance plan is not helping them with other
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 7: things besides medical, dental, and vision, now is the time
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 7: to make a choice that's going to help your family
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 7: in other ways.
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  Speaker 1: Crystal Rack, hold on a second. I want you to
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: elaborate a little bit more on that because I know
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: CareSource is an excellent option. So pause. I want to
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: bring you back to talk a little bit more detail
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: about that because I want people to be very aware
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 1: of these.
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 3: Talk station.
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: It's 741-55-KRC-D Talk Station. Brian Thomas talking with Crystal Rack
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: about this coat drive, helping the help squad help other
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: people out in the community. It's a wonderful organization, and
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 1: you can drop them off at the football game at
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: Mount St. Joe. You can swing by Kroner Dry Cleaning,
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: and thanks again to Kroner for doing the dry cleaning
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: on this. It's drop-off site. Great Green Township Fire Department,
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 1: of course, Bucketheads, Resounding Joy Church, among the places, drop
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: them off. How long can people drop coats off? This
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 1: isn't just a one-day event, Crystal, is it?
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 8: No, absolutely not.
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  Speaker 7: They can drop them off all through until November 30th.
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 7: They can drop them off any time, any of the
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 7: operating hours of those businesses.
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 9: Absolutely.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 7: They can also, if their schedule doesn't allow, reach out
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 7: to them on Facebook, the Help Squad Scentsy, and they
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 7: can arrange to get codes from you.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 1: And if you don't have a coat, give them some money.
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: I've donated money to the Help Squad. I know it's
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: in good hands. You know, this is like donating to
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: Matthew 25. If you give them a buck, a buck
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: is going to go out into the world to help
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 1: someone who needs it. That's what the Help Squad does.
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 1: They're not taking a slice of the action. You know,
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: Brian Eibold doesn't draw a salary doing this. He does
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 1: it because, well, the glory of God, I think, is
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: driving Brian Eibold and the folks that work out for
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: the Help Squad, and good for them. doing great work
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: and getting it done efficiently and properly and helping people
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: live better lives, which is what CareSource is doing too.
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: And I want you to elaborate a little bit on
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: Medicaid with CareSource. This is, of course, how you are
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: in touch with people on life's margins. You refer them
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: to HelpSquad. HelpSquad can refer them to you, right?
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 4: Correct.
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 7: Absolutely.
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 7: So what Brian is doing right now is finding out
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 7: who has hair source or who has Medicaid and right
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 7: now letting them know they have a choice in their
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 7: managed care plan. So when you get on Medicaid, you're
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 7: auto assigned.
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: That's not the.
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 7: Plan that you have to keep. And we're quickly realizing
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 7: that not all are created equal and people have different
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 7: needs and we offer different enhanced benefits. So when you're
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 7: on Medicaid, it doesn't affect your Medicaid, but you can
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 7: choose your managed care plan and we are a choice.
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 7: We are the only nonprofit choice right now. We've been
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 7: around for 30 years and we were started by a
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 7: social worker. So our goals into helping our members and
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 7: potential members looks a little different in the form of
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 7: our services. We do have life services, a life coach.
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 7: And I did mention open enrollment and switching managed care
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 7: plans couldn't be easier. All people have to do is
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 7: call the Ohio Department of Medicaid and 1-800-324-8680. And they
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 7: can hit one for English or two for Spanish. It's
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 7: going to tell them to hang up. Our advice is
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 7: don't hang up because they want them to go online.
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 7: And online can be a little confusing for some people. Oh, yeah.
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 1: They want you to hang up. Just hearing you say
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: that is just comical.
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 7: They do.
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 8: They do.
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 7: They want you to go online, and I feel like
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 7: that's a little tougher. If you just stay on that phone,
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 7: another menu is going to pop up, and it's going
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 7: to allow you to choose option four to switch your
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 7: managed care plan. You can just let them know you'd
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 7: like CareSource.
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: And the benefit of CareSource are these additional resources that
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 1: you provide, the lifelines. training and life coaching, which might
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: help liberate them from the need to be on Medicaid,
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 1: for example?
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 7: That's correct.
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 4: Wonderful.
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it was actually a conversation we had, and one
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 7: upper management got asked, well, if you guys are helping
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 7: people get off of Medicaid, aren't you going to get
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 7: out of business?
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 7: And the answer to that is no. You know, there
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 7: will always be people on Medicaid. However, if someone's goal
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 7: is to come off of Medicaid and come off social services,
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 7: that's what we're going to help them to do because
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 7: that's the right thing to do.
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 1: I love you saying that out loud because I've given
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 1: up hope that, you know, anybody who's involved in these
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 1: major programs has any interest in solving the problem. And
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: I've said out loud before, if all the problems of
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 1: the world would go away, leaving me with no topic
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 1: to talk about on the 55KRC Morning Show, I would
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 1: gladly go find something else to do, you know?
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 8: Absolutely, yes.
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 7: So that's kind of how we feel. If we get
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 7: put out of business, that means we've done our job.
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: Amen. That's a beautiful thought. CareSource.com, is that where people
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: find you directly?
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: But to make the choice to go with CareSource as
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: the Medicaid provider and get all these additional resources, they
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 1: need to do that by calling 800-324-8680 and waiting and
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: then selecting option four.
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 7: Correct. They first will hit one for English, two for Spanish,
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 7: do not hang up, and then option four to choose CareSource, yes.
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 1: Well, Crystal Rack, I cannot thank you enough. I really
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: appreciate your philosophy about the organization you're working with. I
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: hope that someday you have to find another job. Maybe
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: through your efforts that will actually happen and people will
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: be in a better place. But in the meantime, CareSource,
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: you have the Medicaid number to call. Again, 800-324-8680. Hit
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: whatever your language option is. Wait for it. Don't hang up.
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: Hit Option 4 and make the selection to your advantage. Crystal,
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: I can't thank you enough for joining up with the
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: Help Squad, which is, again, at the Help Squad, Cincy
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: with a Y. I strongly encourage my listeners to find
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: a code. You know you've got one you're not using.
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: Drop it off at any one of the locations or
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 1: show up at the football game at Mount St. Joe
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: this Saturday, any time throughout the end of the month
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: for all the other locations, and maybe consider making a
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: financial contribution to the Help Squad, Cincy, as well. Crystal,
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: it's been a real pleasure having the program. Keep up
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 1: the great work.
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 7: Thank you so much, Brian.
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 8: Always a pleasure.
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 7: Thank you for all you're doing and how you're trying
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 7: to help the community in every way that you can.
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 8: We appreciate you.
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: I see the talk station and being a Friday, a
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 1: reason enough to be in a good mood, but even
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: more reason to be a good mood is talking to
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: someone who's an expert in wines and going to jungle gyms,
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: just generally speaking, always puts a smile on my face.
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 1: In fact, my wife and I occasionally will just go, well,
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: let's just go to jungle gyms. You know, we normally
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 1: shop at your regular Kroger or, you know, the, the, the,
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: the Meyer or whatever, but There's something really neat about
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: going to Jungle Jim's. And TJ is in studio. He
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 1: happens to be, actually TJ Askren, he is the senior department,
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: the wine department manager for both Jungle Jim's locations. So
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: if you've been to Jungle Jim's, you know the massive
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 1: number of wines he's responsible for. Every type of wine
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 1: in the world you can find at Jungle Jim's, both locations. TJ,
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 1: it's great having you in studio, man.
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 3: Good morning, Brian. Thanks for having me on.
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 1: And I certainly appreciate the selections you brought in.
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 3: Oh, you know, I got to take care of my people.
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 5: You do.
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: And not that I would ever drink at the 55
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: KRC Morning Show Studios, but he brought a couple of
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: wine selections, one of which happens to be my favorite
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 1: wine in the world. He got word. But how long
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: have you been with Jungle Gyms?
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 3: Been there 11 years.
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 1: 11 years. It's got to be a fun job. It is.
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 3: It's demanding, but, you know, it's got its perks.
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: Well, I heard that the business model at Jungle Gyms
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 1: is every, you know, there's so many different departments. You know,
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 1: there's the The Asian food area, there's the seafood area,
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 1: there is the meat department, there's the cheese department, the
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: wine department. Each one is its own little business, as
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 1: I understand it.
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we pretty much run each individual department as its business,
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 3: and then it all falls under the umbrella of Jungle Gems.
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: Well, it makes so much sense. You manage a smaller
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: area within it, and it's your fiefdom. Profitability is followed.
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: You know what you need to buy, what's selling, what isn't.
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 1: So I discovered that just recently. I just always wondered
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 1: as I walked into the massive store with everything they sell,
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 1: how in God's name do they know what to buy
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: and what quantity of things to buy?
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's what Jungle hangs his hat on.
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: No kidding.
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 3: He finds the best people to run each of his
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 3: departments and lets us go wild.
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 1: Well, I tested your street cred. I asked you if
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: you knew Keegan Corcoran, and you actually do work with him.
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 3: I do business with Keegan. He's great.
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 1: I call him our resident wine steward.
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 9: All right.
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: Well, the reason you're in here is not just to
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: talk about how awesome Jungle Gems is, and I share
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 1: that perception, and the wine department generally speaking, but you're
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 1: having an international wine festival event coming up. Tell my
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: listeners all about that.
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so this is actually going to be our 17th
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 3: annual wine fest. It should be 19th, but unfortunately we
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 3: had two years in 20 and 21 where we weren't
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 3: allowed to do it.
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: Any act is responsible for that, right?
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, great.
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 8: All right.
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: Another thing to remember.
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so we are going to take advantage of two
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 3: of our event spaces at the Fairfield location. So the
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 3: Oscar Event Center, which is located directly above Beer and Wine,
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 3: is going to be all VIP. We're going to have
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 3: 18 wonderful tables of wine. We're going to have food galore.
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 3: And our VIPs will actually be able to go in
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 3: an hour early. So they get 6 p.m. to 10 p.m.
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 3: And then they can do everything in the Oscar event.
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 3: Then they can jump on the monorail and they can
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 3: head out to the other event space, which is the
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 3: Oscar Station, which is out in the parking lot where
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 3: we used to house all of the monorail cars.
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 1: Oh, I remember that.
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 3: So Jungle has transformed that into an awesome event space.
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 3: If you're a bourbon drinker, go check it out. We've
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 3: got a huge, he converted a dry cleaning rack, automatic rack.
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 3: to hold bottles of bourbon so you can come up
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 3: and hit a button and it just rotates around until
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 3: you find the one you want and then the bartender
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 3: will pour it for you right there.
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's cool.
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's fun. But our general admission starts at 7 p.m.
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 3: It's all going to be at the Oscar station and
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 3: we're calling it general admission, but this would be a
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 3: VIP tasting anywhere else. There's 75 tables out there. We
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 3: are pouring champagne. We're pouring some big Napa cabs. We're
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 3: going to have Wines from 11 different countries. And then
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 3: inside of those countries, we're going to have three tables
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 3: of sake from Japan.
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 3: And then just because we're jungle and we want to
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 3: be crazy, we're going to have a Slovenian table, too.
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 3: So I don't know if you've ever had wine from
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 3: Slovenia before, but it's awesome.
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 1: Oh, how about that? That's going to be fun. Well,
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, opportunity to try things you probably never would
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 1: have an opportunity to try.
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 3: That's the whole point.
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 1: Oh, I wonder what the Slovenian stuff tastes like. Well,
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 1: there you go. You don't have to buy a bottle
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 1: of your own. Just walk around and sample it all.
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 3: And then, Brian, the best part of all of it?
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 3: As you're talking to wine professionals that are at each table,
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 3: you can purchase the wine right there. We have an app,
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 3: Buyer's Club Map. You try the wine. You're like, oh,
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 3: I want one or two bottles of that. We'll have
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 3: it waiting for you the next Friday at Jungle to
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 3: be picked up.
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's great. That's great. Wait a second. You said
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 1: it goes from 6 to 10?
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 3: VIP is 6 p.m. to 10 p.m. General admission is
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 3: 7 p.m. to 10 p.m.
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 1: That's a lot of drinking that can go under there.
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 1: It is. It's an Uber event.
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 3: It is absolutely an Uber, Lyft event. Get yourself a DD.
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 3: We do sell tickets that are non-drinker tickets for VIP
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 3: and for GA if you want to bring a DD
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 3: along with you.
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's cool.
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 3: We'll call you a cab if you don't want to
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 3: do a ride share. But take advantage of all the
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 3: hotels that are out there in Fairfield. There's plenty of
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 3: places to stay.
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 1: You know, I would argue the best thing somebody could
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: do would be going there, well, before the thing opens
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 1: at 6 and just taking a cruise around and checking
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: out the wares that are available at Jungle Jim's.
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean, the curtains open at 6. But
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 3: definitely come in and check out the store.
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 3: See what we got going on.
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 1: I would tell people to do it anyway because you
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 1: haven't been there. You don't know what I'm talking about.
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 1: I'm a foodie. And my wife and I cook international
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 1: recipes all the time. It's like, how are we going
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 1: to find that? Well, it's Jungle Jim's. They got an
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 1: aisle for that.
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 5: Wonderful.
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 3: If you're such a foodie. You should have VIP tickets
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 3: for next Saturday night. So they're almost sold out. Right now,
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 3: they are $ 190 their ticket. So that gets you your
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 3: 18 tables of outstanding wine. Plus, we have dinner by
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 3: the bite throughout the whole VIP. And we're Jungle Jim,
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 3: so we don't do just regular steakhouse stuff. I mean,
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 3: we're serving stuffed branzino. We have a duck and sausage coleslaw.
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 3: We have a whole suckling pig. We're doing grouper tacos
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 3: and some West Coast oysters all up in the VIP.
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 3: That's included in your ticket. So not only are you
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 3: drinking well, you're eating well, too.
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 1: Grouper and oysters?
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 1: Just among all the other things? I mean, I'd pay
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 1: $ 190 to be around grouper and oysters all evening.
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 1: So I'm hearing the word unlimited in terms of your
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: ability to just sort of graze and eat and drink wine.
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean... To a point, you know, we want
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 3: you to be able to walk out of the event. But,
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 3: you know, yes.
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 1: Not stumbling around drunk.
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 1: Trying to give people a sense of appreciation for what
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 1: they're getting for 190 bucks.
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 3: You come up. There's going to be two wine professionals
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 3: at each table. There'll be one person that's pouring and
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 3: then one person from either the winery itself or the
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 3: importer or the distributor that sells it to me. That
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 3: will give you as little or as much information that
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 3: you'd like to know about each wine.
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 1: I had that scene of Blues Brothers in my mind
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 1: about wrong glass, sir.
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 1: We said as little or as much. You know, come on,
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 1: come on.
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 1: So sparkling wines, all types of wines across the entire spectrum,
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 1: including dessert wines, which you brought with you today. So
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 1: I just struck up the details for the event on 55KRC. iheart. com.
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 1: Speaking of wines, I had told you indirectly through Brian Massa,
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 1: the sales guy who brought you in here today. Brian's
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 1: a good guy. And he said, well, you would ask
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 1: what I like. And we had what I thought was
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 1: a really an amazing red wine. I'm not normally a
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 1: cab guy, but we had a disastrous experience and ended
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 1: up having to get a substitute bottle of wine at
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 1: a nice restaurant we were at. And it was recommended
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 1: by the sommelier there. Was it Jacob Isosceles, right?
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 3: Justin.
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 1: Justin. Justin Isosceles. I'd never had it before, and I
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 1: absolutely fell in love with it. So I told Brian,
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 1: I like that Justin Isosceles, and I like Dolce. It's
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 1: my favorite wine. And you brought in a comparable... if
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 1: not equal or better than the Isosceles that I mentioned.
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 1: What is that particular wine?
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 3: In the eyes of the beholder, yes.
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I know, but it's the subjectivity that we got.
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 3: So, you know, Isosceles is an iconic wine from Paso
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 3: Robles in Southern California. Another iconic wine from Paso Robles
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 3: is Dow, which Dow Mountain produces quite possibly the best
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 3: red wine in Southern California.
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 1: D-A-O-U for folks paying attention. Dow Cabernet Sauvignon.
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 3: Very cool story. So Dao was started by two brothers.
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 3: They're Lebanese. In the early 70s during the civil war
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 3: in Lebanon, there was a missile that exploded right outside
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 3: of their house. Both of them and their parents were
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 3: injured very badly. They rehabbed, left Lebanon to get away
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 3: from the civil war, went to France, grew up in
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 3: France basically as they were rehabbing, got the wine bug
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 3: because you're living in southern France, right? What else are
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 3: you going to do? They eventually moved to San Diego.
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 3: Both of them went into the tech field, graduated from
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 3: the University of California, San Diego. Then they started a
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 3: tech company in the 80s that was made to upgrade
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 3: hospital software. Blew it out of the water, sold their
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 3: business for billions of dollars, and they're like, what are
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 3: we going to do now? We're going to go buy
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 3: a mountain. So they bought Dow Mountain. They owned the
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 3: entire mountain, all the plantings that happened on the mountain.
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 3: picked different exposures and made wine up until a few
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 3: years ago. And they decided to retire and they sold
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 3: to Treasury Wine Estate, which Treasury is Penfold. So everybody
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 3: knows Penfold's wine, right?
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 3: So now it's in the Penfold's area. This is Dow Reserve, 100% Cabernet.
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 3: It is probably my favorite bottling from Impasso Robles. It's
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 3: under a hundred bucks, is readily available at Jungle Gems,
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 3: and we're pouring it at Wine Fest. So if you'd
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 3: like to try it, and this is not even in
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 3: the fine wine room, this is in GA.
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 1: Oh, whoa, whoa. That speaks volumes.
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 1: They've got an amazing wine selection at Jungle Chips. It's
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 1: just amazing. Well, I'll tell you what, for those who
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 1: are not typically inclined to like Cabernets because of how
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 1: dry they can be, I always think the analogy that
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 1: goes in my mind, you get a real dry cab
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 1: and it feels like you're trying to swallow a Kleenex.
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 1: Obviously an overstatement, but this wine, were I to drink
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 1: it here this morning, is not in any way, shape,
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 1: or form along the lines of that dry, very, very
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 1: drinkable wine, very smooth, and just an amazing flavor. So Dowell,
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 1: D-A-O-U Cabernet Sauvignon. We'll get another wine recommendation or two
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 1: from TJ Askin. It's 820 here at 55KRC Talk Station.
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 1: International Wine Festival. Sounds like one hell of an event
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 1: taking place at Jungle Gyms. All the information on the
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 1: blog page, 55KRC. com. And yeah, $ 190 sounds like expensive for
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 1: a VIP pass, but According to T.J. Askren, he's in studio.
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 1: He's the, well, a senior wine department manager for both
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 1: Jungle Jim's locations, which speaks volumes to his knowledge and
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 1: expertise about wines. Massive quantities of really, really good hors d'oeuvres,
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 1: unlimited amounts of wine, brilliant, wonderful wines. I mean, this Cabernet,
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 1: we just had that Dow Cabernet, fabulous stuff. You're going
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 1: to have that and so much more at the International
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 1: Wine Festival. So make a date night of it. Get
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 1: a group together and go out together, but hurry up
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 1: and get the tickets while they're available. And I'm certain
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 1: they're going to run out. TJ. Yes, sir. Let's talk
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 1: about a fabulous history about that Dow. That was wild,
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 1: what led up to the.
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 3: That is honestly one of the reasons I got into wine.
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 3: I was always a history buff, and you can connect
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 3: wine to world history, geography. It all kind of folds together,
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 3: and it makes wine make sense.
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 1: How about that? Well, I've been to one country once,
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 1: and I can't remember under what circumstance. I think we
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 1: were out there for a legal conference. It was a wedding.
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 1: And ended up just stopping off at one winery. Didn't
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 1: have advanced reservations or anything. I was like, okay, fine,
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 1: we're here. The one I always wanted to go to
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 1: because of this wine he brought today was Farniente.
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 3: Oh, you want to go?
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 3: I know some people.
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 1: And so does Keegan. Maybe we can make a party
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 1: of it.
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 1: But Farniente is responsible for Dulce. Yeah, for Dulce. Exactly.
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 1: Which happens to be my ultimate favorite wine. And it's
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 1: a dessert wine. And it sounds weird because I'm not
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 1: normally a sweets guy. But Dolce, as I described to you,
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 1: and I'm no sommelier, and I had to even call
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 1: Keegan to find out what that finish was, and you
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 1: said you thought it was more eucalyptus. Right.
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 3: It's, you know, especially where it's grown. So, Fariente is
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 3: mostly grown on the Martin-Stelling Vineyard site, which is right
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 3: next door to Robert Mondavi and Tokalon, inside of the
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 3: Oakville AVA in Napa, okay?
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 2: This.
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 3: should only be planted Cabernet right if you're looking at
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 3: it from a business perspective you make 10 times more
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 3: money off Cabernet per hectare that you plant but these
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 3: old vines Semillon and Sauvignon Blanc is in the very
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 3: back of the Martin Stelling vineyard site and they refuse
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 3: to pull it out because this little zone for some
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 3: reason is able or lets these white wines to get
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 3: Botrytis infected That's the key right there. That's the key.
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 3: It's the absolute key. What it is, it's a fungus
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 3: that grows on the grape. It makes all the moisture
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 3: in the water evaporate from the grape, leaving just the sugars.
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 1: Like a raisin.
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 10: It is.
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 3: It's almost like a raisin, yeah. So when these are
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 3: right and when the conditions are right for Botrytis to happen,
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 3: you can make Dolce. And it's not just us that
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 3: are singing the praises of Dolce. The most famous dessert
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 3: wine in the world, Chateau Ikem in Sauternes, Bordeaux claimed
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 3: Dolce as its only rival.
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 1: See, and I had no idea any of that when
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 1: I first tried it. A friend of mine had just,
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 1: I guess we ordered it at dinner or something. This
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 1: was when I lived in Chicago. And just the minute
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 1: it hit my palate, I'm like, oh, my God, this
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 1: is just glorious.
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 8: It is.
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 3: I'll say it. It's the best dessert wine in the
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 3: United States.
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 1: Well, you don't need to convince me. I haven't had
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 1: many dessert wines in my life, to be honest with you,
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 1: maybe 10, 15 my entire life. I've been going back
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 1: to Dolce time and time again. 350-milliliter bottle. Here's why
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 1: I don't drink it every day. 350-milliliter bottle is like $ 100,
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 1: $ 120 now. How about $ 89. 99 at Jungle Gems right now?
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 3: Oh, get it at Jungle Gems.
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 1: Save some money. I'm glad I asked that out loud. Well,
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 1: get to the International Wine Festival. I can't encourage you enough.
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 1: Even if you're like me, you like wine, but you're
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 1: not a sommelier level. You don't know how to describe it.
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 1: You know it's current with a little bit of it. No,
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 1: don't worry about that. Just enjoy it while you can.
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 1: You get a variety to choose from. Taste things you
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 1: normally wouldn't taste. And TJ Askren, I can't thank you
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 1: enough for coming to the studio and just, well, keeping
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 1: that place in order and the selection and just being
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 1: a Jungle Jim.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, thank you for having me on. And right before
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 3: I leave, I just want to make sure that I'm
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 3: taking care of my Eastside guys, right? So the festival
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 3: is at the Fairfield location. We've got a free bus
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 3: ride from Jungle Jim's Eastgate to Fairfield, and we'll bring
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 3: you back, too. All sponsored by Kendall-Jackson. Oh, that's awesome.
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 3: So you can have some KJ on your way out.
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 3: Probably not any on the way back, but maybe.
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 3: We'll see how everybody's feeling. And then you can grab
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 3: a Lyft or an Uber from Jungle Eastgate.
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 1: How do you get on that bus?
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 3: What's that? It is part of the ticket. So when
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 3: you go to Eventbrite and you search Jungle Gems International
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 3: Wine Festival, one of the ticket options at the bottom
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 3: is Eastgate bus for $ 0.
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 1: Party bus with wine. Yes.
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 3: And there's no upcharge.
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 1: That's great. And I will point out that when my
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 1: wife and I first started dating, she took me for
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 1: the very first time. 838 on a Friday. Sincere thanks
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 1: to the callers who tried to get in. But one
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 1: segment late, better late than never. Welcome, Jack Windsor. I
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 1: was worried about you, brother. I thought, you know, maybe
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 1: you got all wrist-slashy after the Tuesday election results, and
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 1: we lost you, man. Welcome back. I know you got
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 1: some pent-up frustration, and it's shared equally with my listening audience.
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 1: But as I've been telling everybody, you know what? Don't
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 1: let those fill-in-the-blank FCC noncompliant descriptive term get you down.
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 1: If they live inside your head and you walk around
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 1: and your day is ruined and your week is ruined
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 1: and the next couple of years of your life feel
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 1: ruined because they won, then they win. Another battle. The
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 1: battle in your head. Stay positive. Stay strong. Let's keep
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 1: fighting the fight at some point. The weight of their
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 1: stupidity will fall down upon them. Jack Windsor from TheOhioPressNetwork.com.
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 1: Appreciate you indulging me with that little intro, but I
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 1: had to get it out of my system. Welcome back,
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 1: my friend.
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  Speaker 6: Well, first of all, it's always an honor and a
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 6: pleasure to be here. I am fully responsible. I had
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 6: an alarm set on my phone. I was doing another hit,
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 6: and my alarm didn't go off, and I'm talking, and
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 6: literally in the middle of my sentence, I hope this
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 6: makes you laugh, I told the other person, I go,
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 6: got to go. hung up, and then I jumped right on.
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 6: So that's on me. I must not have set the
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 6: alarm the right way.
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 1: It's good to be here.
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 6: Listen, what you just said, I want to tee it
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 6: up this way, and then we can talk about whatever
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 6: you want. Have you ever seen the movie Miracle, Brian?
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 1: I can't remember. I've seen so many movies, Jack. I
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 1: can't remember the ones I've seen and haven't seen. Remind
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 1: me real quick.
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 6: It's a movie about the 1980 U.S. hockey team.
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 1: Yes, I did.
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 6: Yeah, so remember when Kurt Russell's in the locker room
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 6: and he gives that really Just moving speech. And he starts,
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 6: I can't repeat it verbatim, but he says basically, great
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 6: moments are made of great opportunities. And that's what you
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 6: have here this evening, man. Well, great moments are born
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 6: of great opportunities and great opportunities are on the heels
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 6: of great losses. where, where there is a great disruption.
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 6: There is always an opportunity to learn a lesson and,
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 6: and to take that great opportunity and do a great thing.
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 6: That's what people need to be focused on. You're going
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 6: to live your life. Anyway, you get to choose. Are
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 6: you going to find the opportunity, capture the opportunity and,
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 6: and turn it into a moment a year or two
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 6: years down the road. That is the only way out
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 6: of this. I am as frustrated, angered, concerned about the
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 6: future of Ohio and the country as anybody else, but
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 6: I think that's where we have to start in a mindset.
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 1: Fair enough. And putting aside the concerns of some out
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 1: there who believe maybe the election was stolen, I don't
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 1: need to go down that road, but the numbers were
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 1: pretty damn overwhelming. The tenuous connection that the Republican Party
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 1: has As evidenced by Donald Trump's victory a couple years ago,
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 1: the tenuous connection that the Republican Party had with those
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 1: wings within the Hispanic community, within the black community, with others,
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 1: that he was able to get them over to support
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 1: his campaign. But apparently the bubble was burst and they
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 1: all got let down and shifted dramatically back over to
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 1: the Democrats. And we even lost a lot of Republicans
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 1: who had the nerve to vote for a Democrat, which
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 1: doesn't really– As mad as I might be about any
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 1: given politician, there is no way I'm going to cast
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 1: a vote for a Democrat knowing where the Democratic Party is.
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 1: So that sort of surprises me. If you can address
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 1: that phenomenon, Jack Windsor.
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 6: So I'm still really trying to get into the numbers.
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 6: There's a problem in Ohio because voters are classified Democrat
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 6: or Republican based on whether they pull a primary ballot.
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 6: And the challenge in Ohio is there are a lot
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 6: of voters who don't vote in the primary. They vote
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 6: in the general election. And so they're unaffiliated voters. In fact,
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 6: the largest pool of voters in Ohio are unaffiliated. So
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 6: were true Republicans voting for Democrats? I'm not sure. But
• 1:59:59
  Speaker 6: certainly unaffiliated voters did more this election than they did
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 6: just two years ago. Now, one of the bans that
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 6: has been highlighted by Breitbart, I believe, the 18 to
• 2:00:10
  Speaker 6: 29-year-olds flipped 55 points in just two years. Now, I
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 6: don't know how big that pie is. Maybe it's 7%
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 6: of the electorate. But I think that's a signal, right?
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 6: It's not the full data set, but it's a signal.
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 6: And here's what I really boil it down to. And
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 6: it's why I think J.D. Vance came out Wednesday and
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 6: said what he said. America first, no new wars. I'm
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 6: going to fix the economy. Those were some of the
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 6: many things that Trump promised. And there are a lot
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 6: of people who feel like he went back on his word,
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 6: had a war that cost lives and cost money. It
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 6: increased the price of gasoline it increased the price of
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 6: everything because diesel touches everything uh and also there are
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 6: a lot of people on the right side of the
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 6: aisle i saw this in social media six months before
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 6: the election who believe that we're in iran and doing
• 2:01:02
  Speaker 6: other things at the at the at the behest of
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 6: bb and the israelis yeah so there are a lot
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 6: of people who don't feel like he's put america first
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 6: and look he didn't say i'm going to make things
• 2:01:11
  Speaker 6: the cheapest in the history of the world and fix
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 6: it completely he said we're going to make it better
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 6: and we did economically Gas prices are not $ 5 a
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 6: gallon like they were in 2022. Inflation is not peaking
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 6: at 9% like it did in 2022. But Americans don't
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 6: care because we're still paying more than we thought. Anybody
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 6: who sells will tell you if you over promise and
• 2:01:31
  Speaker 6: under deliver, you create an expectation and then dissatisfaction. And
• 2:01:35
  Speaker 6: I think those three things together really turned off voters.
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 6: If you remember in 2024, it was a resounding victory.
• 2:01:43
  Speaker 6: People were coalesced and they said, let's go do this.
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 6: And two years later, they were like, wait a minute,
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 6: we voted for this. What the hell has changed? And
• 2:01:51
  Speaker 6: I think from a national headwind standpoint, that was extremely
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 6: problematic to overcome.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and, you know, I suppose the bubble seems to
• 2:01:59
  Speaker 1: have burst insofar as the Trump magnetism or whatever. What
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 1: I observed and, you know, feel free as a political
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 1: observer to draw a different conclusion. It seems to me
• 2:02:10
  Speaker 1: based upon, you know, maybe J.D. Vance's post. with regard
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 1: to blaming the war on this calamity that happened Tuesday.
• 2:02:18
  Speaker 1: But there are other prominent politicians saying things out loud
• 2:02:22
  Speaker 1: critical of Donald Trump now. It seems to me that
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 1: after the election, the whole idea of keeping quiet on
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 1: any criticism of Trump for fear of alienating the rabid
• 2:02:33
  Speaker 1: MAGA folks has disappeared now. And in order to diss
• 2:02:36
  Speaker 1: themselves from evil orange man as we get close to 2028,
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 1: They're going to have to start showing that, no, no, no,
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 1: I was not a MAGA always kind of person because
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 1: the Democrats aren't going to have Donald Trump to be
• 2:02:49
  Speaker 1: their whipping boy and their evil enemy anymore. He's going
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 1: to be gone. I guess kind of ask you this
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 1: corollary question. Sorry for the compound long winded nature. What
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 1: are they going to do without Donald Trump?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, well, you know, I think I talked about a
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 6: year ago on this and maybe you and I've talked
• 2:03:02
  Speaker 6: about it before. The Republicans in Ohio have done it.
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 6: Republicans all over the country have done it. It's kind
• 2:03:09
  Speaker 6: of like the Me Too movement for MAGA. Yep, I'm
• 2:03:12
  Speaker 6: a Trump acolyte. That's me, man. America first, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 2:03:16
  Speaker 6: But who are you really? And I think that's where
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 6: there's the chink in the armor. A lot of people
• 2:03:21
  Speaker 6: are going, I hear you say that you're MAGA, but
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 6: what's going on nationally, MAGA's not MAGA. We're not putting
• 2:03:27
  Speaker 6: America first. Prices are not coming down. We're not abstaining
• 2:03:32
  Speaker 6: from fighting other people's wars. And so when you brand
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 6: yourself that now, all of a sudden, the national headwinds
• 2:03:38
  Speaker 6: are on your shoulders and it's going to be a
• 2:03:41
  Speaker 6: time of reckoning. And frankly, there were a lot of
• 2:03:44
  Speaker 6: people in the beginning, Brian, who didn't like Trump, but
• 2:03:47
  Speaker 6: Trump inspired the populist movement and they got behind him
• 2:03:51
  Speaker 6: because they didn't want to get picked off. Well, that's gone.
• 2:03:54
  Speaker 6: He's a lame duck now. So those people will come
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 6: out of the woodwork. But national headwinds are not the
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 6: only problem that we have in Ohio. There's a whole
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 6: host of problems there. And I know you probably have
• 2:04:02
  Speaker 6: to take a break soon. And I can unpack some
• 2:04:04
  Speaker 6: of those. But don't let anybody in Ohio tell you
• 2:04:07
  Speaker 6: that this happened only because of national headwinds. Ohio Republicans
• 2:04:12
  Speaker 6: have their own host of problems they need to solve
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 6: pretty quickly.
• 2:04:15
  Speaker 1: Well, isn't that a nice segue point? Pause. We'll bring
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 1: you back. That's called a tease. Jack Wins is good
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 1: at that. TheOhioPressNetwork.com. Follow him throughout the week. Bookmark the website.
• 2:04:25
  Speaker 1: We'll bring Jack back after these brief words. Could you
• 2:04:31
  Speaker 1: use a hand with the information and the books? Get
• 2:04:35
  Speaker 1: a copy of Joshua Lisek's book, Haitians of Springfield. Frightening
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 1: stuff that is, but you know, reality is something different
• 2:04:41
  Speaker 1: than what you're sold in the mainstream media. And you
• 2:04:43
  Speaker 1: get reality at theohiopressnetwork.com. It's Jack Windsor's site. Jack's on
• 2:04:47
  Speaker 1: the show with a nice tease about what's going on
• 2:04:49
  Speaker 1: here in Ohio compared to the national problems we're facing.
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 8: Jack.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: So you and I've talked ad nauseum on this show
• 2:04:56
  Speaker 6: about Vivek and, Our concerns played out, right? He received
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 6: fewer votes than any of the other Republican statewide candidates
• 2:05:04
  Speaker 6: on Tuesday. And I'm going to go back to a
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 6: moment in time. I'm sure that you, your listeners, me,
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 6: my listeners, our friends, our friend groups have been saying
• 2:05:12
  Speaker 6: for a long time that American culture is broken, that
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 6: the Marxist march through our institutions had been complete, that
• 2:05:19
  Speaker 6: our kids were being taught what to think and not
• 2:05:21
  Speaker 6: how to think in school. And we were all in
• 2:05:23
  Speaker 6: agreement on that. But I want to take you back
• 2:05:25
  Speaker 6: to around Christmas last year. Do you remember when Vivek
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 6: Ramaswamy made some comments about other countries that are leading
• 2:05:31
  Speaker 6: internationally and how their kids study math and our kids
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 6: play football and other such things? Do you remember the
• 2:05:38
  Speaker 6: backlash from that, Brian?
• 2:05:40
  Speaker 1: Listen, there's backlash to anything coming out of a conservative-leaning person.
• 2:05:44
  Speaker 1: So I don't specifically recall hearing that backlash, but it
• 2:05:47
  Speaker 1: doesn't surprise me a whit.
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  Speaker 6: So there were a lot of people who– one of
• 2:05:52
  Speaker 6: the narratives that surrounded Vivek's candidacy was he's going to
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 6: do the H-1B thing, bring in a bunch of Indian
• 2:05:58
  Speaker 6: immigrants and replace American jobs, right?
• 2:06:01
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 2:06:01
  Speaker 6: And that all stemmed back to that December– I think
• 2:06:04
  Speaker 6: it was around December of 2025 social media post. Now,
• 2:06:08
  Speaker 6: that right there should have been an aha moment. If
• 2:06:12
  Speaker 6: I criticize my wife lovingly, if I say, hey, honey,
• 2:06:15
  Speaker 6: maybe you could ask me that in a little different voice,
• 2:06:17
  Speaker 6: that kind of sounds nagging. I'm OK with that. If
• 2:06:20
  Speaker 6: another man criticizes my wife, gloves come off.
• 2:06:23
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 2:06:24
  Speaker 6: So when Republicans are saying it, it's OK. But when
• 2:06:27
  Speaker 6: Vivek says it, people go apoplectic. That should have been
• 2:06:30
  Speaker 6: a moment that people went, oh, Republicans are not looking
• 2:06:34
  Speaker 6: at him like a member of the family. We better
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 6: figure that out.
• 2:06:37
  Speaker 1: Good point.
• 2:06:38
  Speaker 6: And that was the beginning. And Vivek died by a
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 6: thousand paper cuts. His political candidacy died by a thousand
• 2:06:47
  Speaker 6: paper cuts. You can throw on all the other stuff.
• 2:06:49
  Speaker 6: But there was that part of it. There was this
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 6: narrative that he bought his endorsement or the Rhino establishment
• 2:06:55
  Speaker 6: had him endorsed early. That really wasn't true. There are
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 6: some people who will still argue with me on that.
• 2:07:00
  Speaker 1: Go ahead. No, I'm agreeing with you all across the board.
• 2:07:03
  Speaker 1: And I've been pointing out because I've heard it directly
• 2:07:05
  Speaker 1: from people's mouths, his religion and maybe even the color
• 2:07:08
  Speaker 1: of his skin was a reason that they would not
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 1: vote for him. I mean, I'm like, you want Governor Amy,
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 1: Amy Act, Governor Amy Act. I'm sorry, Jack is still
• 2:07:17
  Speaker 1: bringing bile up in the back of my throat. That
• 2:07:18
  Speaker 1: we're that dumb that we're going to elect someone who
• 2:07:21
  Speaker 1: did everything she did, wouldn't even bother debating the candidate,
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 1: wouldn't articulate principles, just promised she was going to lower
• 2:07:27
  Speaker 1: the price of goods without articulating an argument in favor
• 2:07:30
  Speaker 1: of how she's going to do it. Anyway, we went
• 2:07:32
  Speaker 1: down that road, and part of the reason is some
• 2:07:33
  Speaker 1: people carrying a chip on their shoulder thinking, I guess,
• 2:07:35
  Speaker 1: that we live in a theocracy.
• 2:07:38
  Speaker 6: Well, you know, there's a lot. First of all, I
• 2:07:42
  Speaker 6: think Vivek could have defined himself better out of the gate.
• 2:07:45
  Speaker 6: And because he didn't, because there were some chinks in
• 2:07:48
  Speaker 6: the armor, so to speak, you know, and I kind
• 2:07:51
  Speaker 6: of gave you the warning shot over the back with H-1B.
• 2:07:55
  Speaker 6: So if he had defined himself, maybe things wouldn't have
• 2:07:58
  Speaker 6: gone as sideways or But here's the other part. Amy
• 2:08:03
  Speaker 6: Acton is an empty suit. You and I know that.
• 2:08:06
  Speaker 6: She was incompetent as the health director. But you know
• 2:08:09
  Speaker 6: what she and her campaign did successfully? They created an
• 2:08:14
  Speaker 6: archetype and flipped on MAGA, what MAGA became Powerful, Bye.
• 2:08:21
  Speaker 6: She made it look like she was David and Vivek
• 2:08:25
  Speaker 6: was Goliath. He was the outsider. She was the outsider.
• 2:08:28
  Speaker 6: She was the little guy. He was the guy that
• 2:08:30
  Speaker 6: was the establishment rhino guy who had all the money
• 2:08:33
  Speaker 6: and she was fighting against him. And it worked that
• 2:08:37
  Speaker 6: that was a an example of selling the sizzle and
• 2:08:40
  Speaker 6: not the steak. And so I think there's a lesson
• 2:08:43
  Speaker 6: there in messaging for Republicans.
• 2:08:44
  Speaker 1: A lesson in messaging that we need to appeal to
• 2:08:47
  Speaker 1: people who aren't paying any attention whatsoever to politics, that
• 2:08:50
  Speaker 1: her message was able to successfully convince people that was
• 2:08:53
  Speaker 1: the truth. That is a reflection of ignorance among the population, Jack. Yes.
• 2:08:58
  Speaker 6: And here's the problem with that. Guys like us and
• 2:09:01
  Speaker 6: that are guys and girls that are listening, we don't
• 2:09:04
  Speaker 6: want to give a man a fish. We want to
• 2:09:05
  Speaker 6: teach him how to fish. We want to correct how
• 2:09:07
  Speaker 6: people think that some people will never be corrected. That
• 2:09:11
  Speaker 6: can be futile. So what you have to do is
• 2:09:13
  Speaker 6: influence them instead. That's how Amy Hacton and the Democrats win.
• 2:09:17
  Speaker 6: They sell the sizzle. They don't worry about the steak.
• 2:09:19
  Speaker 1: Well, and the other thing I must observe before we
• 2:09:20
  Speaker 1: part company, at least I am of the mind, and
• 2:09:23
  Speaker 1: I've always been in awe of the Democrats' ability to
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  Speaker 1: get people up and vote. They coordinate. They're social media savvy.
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  Speaker 1: They're interacting all year long through their activism and their
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  Speaker 1: protests and their picket. Pick a left wing cause. They're
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  Speaker 1: all energized all the time. You know, some left winger
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  Speaker 1: over there has got a different cause. Well, I'm a
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  Speaker 1: left winger over here with some other cause. I'll join
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  Speaker 1: in the fun. They're clearly connected and it clearly works
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  Speaker 1: with them to get them to go out and vote.
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  Speaker 2: It does.
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  Speaker 6: And I think part of it. Listen, I'm not a
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  Speaker 6: social scientist, but I think part of it is people
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  Speaker 6: who are wired to be Democrats are more collective by nature.
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  Speaker 6: People who are wired to be libertarian or Republican are not.
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  Speaker 6: And one of the problems in the Republican Party is
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  Speaker 6: instead of being a collective person, I want to figure
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  Speaker 6: out how do I profit off of this? And so
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  Speaker 6: you get people who fight for their own little fiefdoms
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  Speaker 6: instead of uniting and fighting together as a party member.
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  Speaker 1: Well, hopefully the destruction of our country and the elimination
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  Speaker 1: of the Constitution and the enactment of these broad social
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  Speaker 1: policies that are already bankrupting our country will get people
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  Speaker 1: to wake up and think, hmm, maybe the Tea Party
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  Speaker 1: was right. Fiscal responsibility, limited government, and free markets are
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  Speaker 1: the only way to go. Jack Windsor, TheOhioPressNetwork.com. I appreciate
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  Speaker 1: you being on the program, and I'm not angry with
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  Speaker 1: you for missing. I get it, brother. I'm sure it's
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  Speaker 1: been a really busy week for you.
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  Speaker 8: I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Thank you for being patient. It's okay, man. Listen,
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  Speaker 1: I enjoy it.