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Pete and Tony Share Thoughts on Week 3 | Jaguars Happy Hour | Jacksonville Jaguars · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Monday, September twenty fifth. This is Jackwars Happy Hour.
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  Speaker 3: and welcome in. It is Jaguars Happy Hour. It is Monday.
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  Speaker 3: After a Jags loss. Plenty to get to in the
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  Speaker 3: two hours ahead thirty seven seventeen. The final score Texans
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  Speaker 3: over the Jaguars. Issues all over the field for the Jags.
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  Speaker 3: All three phases had problems. London is next. Let's take
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  Speaker 3: this show international Falcons and the Bills the next two
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  Speaker 3: weeks in the UK. We'll keep it real and fanatics
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  Speaker 3: fan questions all coming up on ten to XL, Jaguars
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  Speaker 3: dot com, Jaguars YouTube as well. Offense with drops and penalties,
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  Speaker 3: defense not much, pass rush, special teams had multiple issues.
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  Speaker 3: Well after the game, head coach Doug Peterson was asked
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  Speaker 3: about that pass rush, but he turned his answer into
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  Speaker 3: a full team response.
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  Speaker 4: Why wasn't unable to get home consistently?
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  Speaker 5: You know, I mean, you can maybe point to several things,
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  Speaker 5: but we have to do better. We have to do better.
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  Speaker 5: Starts up front. Starts with the offensive line on offense
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  Speaker 5: starts with the defensive line on defense. It starts right there. Again,
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  Speaker 5: I'm gonna say this again. We need to coach better.
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  Speaker 5: We need to play better. We need to execute better.
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  Speaker 5: Whether we are reading our press clippings. We need to
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  Speaker 5: get out of our own way right now. We need
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  Speaker 5: to evaluate ourselves, beginning with me, and we gotta figure
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  Speaker 5: out how to win a game.
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  Speaker 3: That's Doug Peterson after the game, we welcome in Pete
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  Speaker 3: Prisco and Tony BASSELLI now, and that was quite a response.
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  Speaker 3: After the game, Pete, what's up?
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  Speaker 2: He shell shocked? I mean, just like any idiot who
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  Speaker 2: picked that team to go to the Super Bowl and
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  Speaker 2: Trevor to win MVP. I mean, who the heck did that?
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  Speaker 6: Some idiot that works for CBS.
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  Speaker 2: That would be me. I just I am astounded when
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  Speaker 2: I saw what was happening before my eyes Sunday, I
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  Speaker 2: could not believe it.
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  Speaker 6: I could not believe that I.
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  Speaker 2: Could I could see if he turned the ball over
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  Speaker 2: five times and it was an accidental loss.
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  Speaker 6: They got abused in every way, shape or form.
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  Speaker 2: It's awful. And when I watched it, I thought to myself,
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  Speaker 2: how the hell did I pick that team to go
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  Speaker 2: to the super Bowl. They're bad right now. That's a
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  Speaker 2: bad football team. What do they do well? That's the
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  Speaker 2: question that needs to be asked. What does that team
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  Speaker 2: do well?
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  Speaker 4: Tony? Any idea?
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  Speaker 7: Last week, Pete, you said I talked too much. I
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  Speaker 7: was gonna let you take the first segment.
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  Speaker 2: Just go on your rant because I know it was
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  Speaker 2: Bill want to. I want to hear what you have
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  Speaker 2: to say, because I think we're both thinking along the
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  Speaker 2: same lines.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, they're not I mean I I won't say they're
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  Speaker 7: not a good team, but they hold on let me finish.
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  Speaker 7: They're not playing like a good team. That doesn't mean
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  Speaker 7: they cannot be a good team right now, Pete, I
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  Speaker 7: agree with you. Under the team, I'll say that the
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  Speaker 7: offense I've seen for three straight weeks is not a
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  Speaker 7: good offense right now. The defense that I've watched is
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  Speaker 7: not disruptive if they're able to get turnovers and and
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  Speaker 7: fly know, because they play hard and they fly around,
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  Speaker 7: but there's nothing disruptive. And I thought Sunday they had
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  Speaker 7: trouble getting off blocks, and I they were I wouldn't
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  Speaker 7: say controlled, but against the offensive line that's one of
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  Speaker 7: the weakest in the NFL with three or four starters out,
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  Speaker 7: four starters out, they couldn't get a rush. They had
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  Speaker 7: four pressures, thirty plus dropbacks. This is a guy who
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  Speaker 7: had been sacked eleven times, the most of the NFL.
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  Speaker 7: This is a running attack that was a kneemack. And
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  Speaker 7: while they did not have great numbers, but there was
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  Speaker 7: times when they wanted to run it, they ran it.
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  Speaker 1: And so.
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  Speaker 7: And offensively, they are way out of sorts. There's not
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  Speaker 7: a rhythm. Trevor to me, looks like he's speeding through things.
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  Speaker 7: I don't know if it's because he doesn't trust the line.
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  Speaker 7: You know, he's gotten hit a couple of times.
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  Speaker 1: Whatever.
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  Speaker 7: I think sometimes he's trying to do too much instead
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  Speaker 7: of just letting the stuff come to him, because I
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  Speaker 7: think he feels like they're underperforming as an offense.
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  Speaker 1: This is all my conjecture.
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  Speaker 7: The the receivers too many drops, more drops. Yesterday, the
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  Speaker 7: receivers themselves had three false starts at home. Just to
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  Speaker 7: explain to everyone listening, whether you're at home or on
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  Speaker 7: the road, you know what the receiver's told to do.
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  Speaker 1: Look at the ball.
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  Speaker 7: If you're a quarter of a second late, nobody cares
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  Speaker 7: but if you're a quarter of the second early, you
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  Speaker 7: look silly.
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  Speaker 1: Tell me.
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  Speaker 7: Ridle two and Magna had one. Tell me how many times, Pete,
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  Speaker 7: you've watched in the history of your the entirety of
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  Speaker 7: your life, you've watched the game? And three fall start
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  Speaker 7: penalties were called on the wide receivers.
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  Speaker 2: I can't remember one, can't remember one.
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  Speaker 1: Recall I thought about it.
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  Speaker 7: I can never recall that happening in my fifty one
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  Speaker 7: years and I've been I can I can remember watching
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  Speaker 7: football since I was five years old, watching the Broncos
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  Speaker 7: and the Cowboys after the seventy seventh season and the
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  Speaker 7: Super Bowl. I can't remember ever. And so that tells
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  Speaker 7: you it's a team that's not focused. They're not looking
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  Speaker 7: at the details. That's what those are mental errors. Those
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  Speaker 7: are mental ares. I thought it was really interesting. Doug
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  Speaker 7: came out and dropped the reading their own press clipping line.
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  Speaker 7: That was very telling. So he does not say that
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  Speaker 7: unless he is sending a message to everybody. I'll say,
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  Speaker 7: hold on one last thing and then I'll jump in
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  Speaker 7: and the offensive line the interior year three again against
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  Speaker 7: a below average group. Now that they ran the ball
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  Speaker 7: at times well, but no consistency.
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  Speaker 1: They play on the edge too much.
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  Speaker 7: And what I mean by that guys are flashing in
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  Speaker 7: front of Trevor's face and they're getting pushed and it's
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  Speaker 7: never comfortable. Very few clean pockets, and even when there are,
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  Speaker 7: there's you know where Trevor Historically, at the back half
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  Speaker 7: of last year, we just shuffle a little bit. Now
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  Speaker 7: he's rushing. I thought ETM played his tail off. Yes,
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  Speaker 7: I wouldn't take that kid out of the game unless
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  Speaker 7: he begged for a rest. He's better than Tank, business beat.
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  Speaker 7: He can be trusted because Tank right now needs to
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  Speaker 7: learn that he has to earn the trust. Another drop
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  Speaker 7: he had that should could have very well led to
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  Speaker 7: an interception. But right now they're out of sorts, and
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  Speaker 7: I think, you know, here's the good news. The good
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  Speaker 7: news is that it's early. And I've said this and
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  Speaker 7: Pete's been by Mantra. Last year, the San Francisco forty
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  Speaker 7: nine ers were one and two. You know who they
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  Speaker 7: lost to the first three weeks of the season, Pete,
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  Speaker 7: the Bears, the Bears, and guess the second team.
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  Speaker 2: I can't remember who was the second team.
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  Speaker 1: Denver Broncos.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, those are bad teams and they're still bad teams,
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  Speaker 7: by the way, and then they ended up three and four. Pete,
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  Speaker 7: you know what's happened since they were three and four
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  Speaker 7: last year.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they've gone a ripping wins.
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  Speaker 1: They have it lost in the regular season.
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  Speaker 7: They lost one game when they played without a quarterback
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  Speaker 7: in the NFC Championship, and.
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  Speaker 6: So but on that team, let's not compare it.
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  Speaker 7: So the comparison is early, right, you're correct. Act what
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  Speaker 7: they did is they're stars, played like stars and rallied
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  Speaker 7: and started making plays and playing good football. So it's
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  Speaker 7: not lost one and two. Nothing is decided.
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  Speaker 6: No, but let's go back to the Let's go back
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  Speaker 6: to the offense real quick.
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  Speaker 2: I think a lack of trust on the interior three
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  Speaker 2: has caused Trevor Lawrence to speed up everything. I think
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  Speaker 2: it's sped up the play call. And again, we're on
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  Speaker 2: the perimeter all day. Nothing goes down the field. Nothing,
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  Speaker 2: there's that dropped dropped. But and I sent you guys
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  Speaker 2: a play on our text chain and that was a
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  Speaker 2: perfect There was another one later on too, but perfect
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  Speaker 2: example of what I'm talking about. Trevor has a there's
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  Speaker 2: some push in the inside, but he's not nobody's getting
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  Speaker 2: to him and he immediately throws the out. All he
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  Speaker 2: had to do was wait a split hair of a
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  Speaker 2: second longer and he's got Ingram on the corner route
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  Speaker 2: for a touchdown. There's nobody near him. Well, later in
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  Speaker 2: the game, I come back and I didn't send you
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  Speaker 2: guys at play Ingram had a wide open touchdown down
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  Speaker 2: the field and he threw a shorter route as well.
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  Speaker 2: I think he's being sped up by the interior of
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  Speaker 2: the offensive line. Ben Bartch is playing awful football. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: he's not. They might need to make a change there.
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  Speaker 2: He's getting overwhelmed. Fortner was a little bit better this week,
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  Speaker 2: but still not great.
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  Speaker 6: And for all the.
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  Speaker 2: Money they're playing paying Breton Sheriff, they should have kept
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  Speaker 2: aj Can. Seriously, So, when you don't have trust in
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  Speaker 2: the interior offensive line, Tony, you know you've talked to
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  Speaker 2: many a quarterback. If you can't step, that was always
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  Speaker 2: a kryptonite for Tom Brady. If you can't step, you
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  Speaker 2: got him, and so I think that's a big problem
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  Speaker 2: for Trevor Lawrence. I think it's a big problem with
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  Speaker 2: the play calling, which is why they call so much
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  Speaker 2: vertical stuff. What was it third in nine and they
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  Speaker 2: ran that wide receivers that tight end screen to strange?
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  Speaker 6: Am I wrong? Was that the call? Where I wonder
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  Speaker 6: planet is that a good play call?
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  Speaker 2: When you have Kirk and Ridley and everything in ingram
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  Speaker 2: to get down the field. That's the kind of thing
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  Speaker 2: that I think the play call has become a victim
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  Speaker 2: and impacted by what's happening on the interior of that
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  Speaker 2: offensive line. So now the question becomes, what do you do? Okay,
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  Speaker 2: you get Cam Robinson back, you can move little left guard,
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  Speaker 2: but what do you do this week? That's a problem Grady,
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  Speaker 2: Jarrett and gang. That's a problem.
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  Speaker 4: That's right.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, it was third and eight in a
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  Speaker 3: four yard game to strange, like early second quarter, yep.
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  Speaker 4: And then their special.
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  Speaker 2: Team the one right before the fourth and one? Didn't
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  Speaker 2: you have a catch before the somebody?
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  Speaker 3: It was a little quick screen might have been that.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, there might have been more than one. Seems
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  Speaker 3: like there might have been.
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  Speaker 2: They're they're way too horizontal an offense right now. But
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  Speaker 2: here and one quick thing, I know you got to
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  Speaker 2: go to break and we can talk more about this.
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  Speaker 2: Those receivers did a poor job of sitting in the zones.
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  Speaker 2: I mean they ran right into coverage. They have to
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  Speaker 2: sit in zones. They have to be able to when
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  Speaker 2: you run your route, if there's a guy there, you
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  Speaker 2: gotta sit down. Ridley did it about four or five times.
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  Speaker 2: They ran right into the right into the defensive back.
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  Speaker 6: You can't.
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  Speaker 2: That tells me. And that's what you're talking about, Tony,
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  Speaker 2: press clippings. Are they putting the work in to understand
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  Speaker 2: where they're supposed to go, because that's all The Texans
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  Speaker 2: played zone the entire game.
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  Speaker 6: They didn't play any man, they were without their corners.
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  Speaker 2: They played zone, and those guys didn't sit down, they
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  Speaker 2: ran they I just think that that the press clipping
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  Speaker 2: comment is accurate. And did somebody else say they need
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  Speaker 2: to get away from Jacksonville for for the this might
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  Speaker 2: be good for him.
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  Speaker 6: Well that tells you that guys aren't Who said that?
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  Speaker 4: Take for you?
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  Speaker 3: It was I think a few players were asked that
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  Speaker 3: and there was a couple of similar responses.
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  Speaker 4: Might have been Christian Kirk. Yeah, that's right.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, we need to go to London for
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  Speaker 2: two weeks to get better.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, we are we serious with that.
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  Speaker 2: I just think that the whole thing right now is unraveling,
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  Speaker 2: and if they don't get it back together, it's gonna unravel.
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  Speaker 6: Luckily they're in a crappy division.
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  Speaker 3: All right, let's come back. We left out special teams.
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  Speaker 3: We've got plenty of time to get to that.
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  Speaker 7: Tony, Well, when we come back, JP, let's talk about
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  Speaker 7: But I don't know what you're I didn't read your
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  Speaker 7: notes again, but I'm not sure what the next second
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  Speaker 7: it was supposed to be.
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  Speaker 1: But we should talk about.
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  Speaker 7: The special teams because that's one of the more embarrassing moments,
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  Speaker 7: shall I say, in the history of this franchise. I
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  Speaker 7: also want to I want to have a conversation with
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  Speaker 7: the two of you. Where does the help come from?
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  Speaker 7: And I'm not saying going to find somebody else, but
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  Speaker 7: who on this team has the ability to step up
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  Speaker 7: and change the dynamic? Because typically, Pete, you know as
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  Speaker 7: well as I do, that's what happens. Maybe it's one guy,
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  Speaker 7: or it's a group of guys that just said enough's enough.
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  Speaker 7: That's not who this is, not who we are. Who
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  Speaker 7: are those guys and do they.
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  Speaker 1: Have the ability to do it?
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  Speaker 7: Because something has to change, because if you keep on
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  Speaker 7: doing what you're doing, you're gonna be five and twelve,
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  Speaker 7: six and eleven, whatever it is, and it's not going
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  Speaker 7: to be good.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 7: I don't think that's who this team is. And I'm
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  Speaker 7: not saying people all of a sudden have to play
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  Speaker 7: like the Incredible Hulk and you know, Superman.
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  Speaker 1: But you gotta change what you're doing. And maybe that's changing.
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  Speaker 7: Your approach, changing your preparation, changing your mentality. I don't know,
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  Speaker 7: but I want to talk about that further.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we can do that, Tony, you know what we'll
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  Speaker 3: do that. That's a good idea producer, Tony from somewhere
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  Speaker 3: in Europe, bringing the heat tonight. All right, we're underway.
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  Speaker 3: we're gonna keep it real as we always do. Thirty
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  Speaker 3: seven to seventeen, the final the Texans over the Jaguars.
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  Speaker 3: Were recapping it on Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet
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  Speaker 3: Home Loans.
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  Speaker 5: I grabbed him actually, you know, coming off the field,
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  Speaker 5: and I just just reiterated to him that, you know,
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  Speaker 5: take a deep breath, stay locked in, stay engaged. I
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  Speaker 5: told him he was a big part of part of
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  Speaker 5: our system in the offense and he's gonna have a
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  Speaker 5: lot of success, And just wanted to reiterate that confidence
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  Speaker 5: in him.
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  Speaker 4: Excuse me, and.
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  Speaker 5: Really, and Trevor does a great job of that too,
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  Speaker 5: of getting with those guys, and you know, Calvin, Calvin
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  Speaker 5: wants to do.
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  Speaker 2: So well, so good, so much.
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  Speaker 5: He wants to prove, you know, and he doesn't have
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  Speaker 5: to he's a good player and he doesn't have to
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  Speaker 5: do I'll just be Calvin. And so those are the
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  Speaker 5: things that we're trying to just get him to do.
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  Speaker 5: Just relax, focus on his job and the plays that
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  Speaker 5: you know, have his number.
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  Speaker 3: Attesting Doug Peterson today and his day after press conference
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  Speaker 3: Monday at the Miller Electric Center discussing Calvin Ridley's day yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: Ridley in the game seven targets, three catches, forty yards at,
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  Speaker 3: a couple drops, a couple of false starts as well.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome back It's Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans.
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  Speaker 3: JP Shadwick from the Hyundai Studios at the Miller Electric
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  Speaker 3: Center on the couch today, Pete Prisco down in South Florida.
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  Speaker 3: Tony is somewhere in Europe ahead of the Jaguars trip
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  Speaker 3: to London this week. The Jags play at Wimbley this
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  Speaker 3: Sunday against the Atlanta Falcons. All right, let's let's start
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  Speaker 3: with readily. We'll get to the special team stuff coming
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  Speaker 3: up in a little bit. But you know, I asked
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  Speaker 3: Doug the question today. You know, how do you, as
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  Speaker 3: a and he's a you think a high caliber receiver,
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  Speaker 3: do you go to him during the game when he's
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  Speaker 3: struggling like that?
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  Speaker 4: Do you let him work on it on his own?
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  Speaker 4: That was his answer.
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  Speaker 3: No, he went to him and trying to keep his
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  Speaker 3: trying to keep his head about his receiver and they
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  Speaker 3: will need him at some point and to step up big.
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  Speaker 3: That was the big storyline this offseason.
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  Speaker 7: Well, Pete, I wonder remember in Atlanta, Calvin Ridley was
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  Speaker 7: not the number one.
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  Speaker 1: Who was Julio Jones.
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  Speaker 7: Now, Calvin Ridley played like at number one in Atlanta.
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  Speaker 7: But Pete correct me if I'm wrong, you covered the league.
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  Speaker 6: No, it was it.
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  Speaker 2: You're right, Julio was when he first came in, and
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  Speaker 2: he credits Julio for actually helping him become a good player.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm not. I don't say that to take
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  Speaker 1: anything away from Calvin Ridley.
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  Speaker 7: I wonder, with him being the guy now, the number
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  Speaker 7: one alpha dog for the first time of his career,
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  Speaker 7: is he pressing and trying to be more than he
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  Speaker 7: needs to be because he's, like to Doun's point, he's
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  Speaker 7: a good player. I mean, Calvin really didn't forget how
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  Speaker 7: to play football. I mean we've seen what he can do.
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  Speaker 7: We've seen it in camp. We saw, you know, early
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  Speaker 7: in the season first, I mean first half of the
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  Speaker 7: Colts game.
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  Speaker 1: I mean you see him run.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, so we know he's it's in there and
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  Speaker 7: he has it the quest. I wonder if this is
• 18:23
  Speaker 7: a I'm the number one guy, it's a contract year,
• 18:28
  Speaker 7: it's all these things that he should not be worrying
• 18:31
  Speaker 7: about entering into between the ears, and he's just pressing.
• 18:37
  Speaker 7: Like what I saw. I mean, he had two drops.
• 18:41
  Speaker 7: One touchdown the other was for uh he bobble. That
• 18:46
  Speaker 7: would have been a huge first down in the game
• 18:49
  Speaker 7: and we needed every first time we could get and
• 18:51
  Speaker 7: he had two false starts.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: And there was a route late in the game where
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: it didn't look like the way he runs his routes.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: He runs him fast and violently and every and it
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: was one where it looked like he was like, okay,
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: maybe not so fast on that route. I don't know
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: if you remember it. It was in the middle of the field,
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: there was a single safety and kind of ran right
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: at him. And he did that a lot on Sunday.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: So you might be onto some tony because the year
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: he caught ninety balls. Julio played nine games that year,
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: so kind of at the end when he wasn't there,
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: he was the number one receiver. But you but you're
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: not the number one receiver as the number one receiver
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: he was. You're the number one receiver because of injury.
• 19:33
  Speaker 7: She's never he's never when even when Julio was out,
• 19:37
  Speaker 7: when Julio walked in the room, Julio was the number
• 19:40
  Speaker 7: one guy, correct.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: And so to be the number one receiver, you have
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: to learn how to handle to being the number one receiver,
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: wh which means the attention goes to you, and that's
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: always the challenge for good receivers to become great receivers.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: That you hear that all the time when you talk
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: to receivers and corners around the league. How does the
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: guy hand being the one? Does he adjust to the doubles?
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: Does he ad just to being pressed? Does he adjust
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: to get the top corner. That's how you become a
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: great receiver as you go from being a really good
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: one to a number one one.
• 20:15
  Speaker 6: And great one is handling.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: All that stuff, and so far you'd have to say
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: you hadn't handled very well.
• 20:23
  Speaker 6: Right, we were sitting here, I believe me.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: I had people that in that building that I respect
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: greatly in the summer that were telling me he was
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: a combination of Jimmy Smith and others and Marvin Harrison
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: and and then you haven't seen that at at all.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: First half of the Indie game and then second half
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: nothing not much, Yeah, I mean.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: And he didn't do anything as the Chiefs, and he
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: didn't do anything yesterday.
• 20:49
  Speaker 7: Right, And so it's not I mean when I say that,
• 20:53
  Speaker 7: So it's not that he can't he doesn't have number
• 20:55
  Speaker 7: one receiver talent.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: He's off the charts. The question, but the question is
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: is he is.
• 21:02
  Speaker 7: He just pressing right now because players will press you
• 21:06
  Speaker 7: feel the way.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: You got a lot going on. There's a bunch of.
• 21:09
  Speaker 7: Things in your head, and you're trying, and you're you know,
• 21:13
  Speaker 7: you're trying to prove that you're that guy instead of
• 21:17
  Speaker 7: just being that guy. Like let your play determine. I mean,
• 21:20
  Speaker 7: because but you know as well as I do, you
• 21:23
  Speaker 7: can't make yourself a number one receiver or the best
• 21:26
  Speaker 7: at any position or anything else like that. Either guy,
• 21:30
  Speaker 7: you either have it or not. I mean, you can,
• 21:32
  Speaker 7: you can train, you can work hard, you can put
• 21:34
  Speaker 7: you have to put the work in. But when you
• 21:36
  Speaker 7: try like to, like you start pressing, you start doing
• 21:40
  Speaker 7: silly things, and you lose focus and concentration. And I
• 21:44
  Speaker 7: appreciate what Julio said when someone asked him about his
• 21:47
  Speaker 7: confidence and he got snippity, which I don't blame him,
• 21:51
  Speaker 7: but he said, it's not confidence, it's concentration. Well, when
• 21:55
  Speaker 7: you're worried about the wrong things, that's where concentration comes
• 21:58
  Speaker 7: becomes an issue.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: Well, you were around for the greatest receiver, the birth
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: of the greatest receiver in the franchise history, because Jimmy
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: was an also ran for college for right. He was
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: a special teams guy. He flashed at times.
• 22:12
  Speaker 7: His rookie my rookie year ninety five, which was like
• 22:15
  Speaker 7: his thirty year first I think, first year full time
• 22:18
  Speaker 7: on a roster, if I'm not mistaken, because of injuries
• 22:20
  Speaker 7: and other things. He was the kick returner, and he's
• 22:24
  Speaker 7: a special team's gunner and a and would cover kicks.
• 22:28
  Speaker 7: And he was the number five receiver on the roster.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: And then he had like a game late that season
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: it was against Denver maybe where he casts the balls.
• 22:36
  Speaker 6: But then as he came through the next year.
• 22:39
  Speaker 7: So hold on, the next year, he is the fourth receiver. Yeah,
• 22:45
  Speaker 7: Keenam mccardeal comes in, He's the one we signed. Andre
• 22:50
  Speaker 7: Andre thought he was the one, so it was you know,
• 22:52
  Speaker 7: who's gonna be the number one? And then Willie Jackson
• 22:55
  Speaker 7: was the third, and then Jimmy was fourth, right, and
• 23:01
  Speaker 7: and Jimmy caught a handfull of balls and he played,
• 23:04
  Speaker 7: and then all of a sudden, Week nine, we cut
• 23:09
  Speaker 7: Andre Rison on a Monday morning, and setting aside the
• 23:14
  Speaker 7: locker room drama that you know, I think it was
• 23:18
  Speaker 7: one of the few days Pete's like, maybe I should
• 23:19
  Speaker 7: just stay out of that locker room today.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: I don't want to deal with those guys.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: Oh I enjoyed that, Yeah.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 23:28
  Speaker 7: And that was the birth of Jimmy receiver as the
• 23:31
  Speaker 7: best Jaguar receiver ever.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: And sort did he didn't know he was?
• 23:35
  Speaker 6: And so no, that's my opinon did he know he was?
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: No, he didn't. He was just playing football his talent.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: Right, when did you know? When did he When do
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: you think a guy knows he's the number one wide receiver?
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: Like because he you know, Keenan was kind of the
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: he'd gone to the Keenan with the Pro Bowl in
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: ninety six, So when.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: Did he me Keenan Mark? And Keenan made it?
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: Uh?
• 23:57
  Speaker 7: He was like, but he was the best player on
• 23:59
  Speaker 7: our team probably and uh he was the number one
• 24:02
  Speaker 7: receiver when Nu Kiman's receiver come back in ninety seven,
• 24:06
  Speaker 7: and it's just quite obvious that Jimmy's the best receiver
• 24:11
  Speaker 7: on the team. And then by ninety eight ninety nine,
• 24:14
  Speaker 7: there was no doubt he was the number one guy.
• 24:16
  Speaker 7: And it was basically if we had single high safety,
• 24:19
  Speaker 7: we were checking a pass and we were throwing it
• 24:21
  Speaker 7: to Jimmy because nobody And so I don't know when
• 24:25
  Speaker 7: he in his mind he was it. But what determined
• 24:30
  Speaker 7: him being the number one guy talent with his play?
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah.
• 24:35
  Speaker 7: And by the way, and I'm not saying Calvin Ridley's
• 24:38
  Speaker 7: is as good as Jimmy is Jimmy Smith's talent. I
• 24:41
  Speaker 7: mean they are two different players, but Calvin Ridley has
• 24:44
  Speaker 7: number one receiver talent.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: No, that's just got to go play.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Right, Just loosen, Just forget about the contract, forget about
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: being the number one guy.
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: Just go make plays.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: Hey, do you feel like do you feel like they're
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: forcing it to him too much?
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: They did in the first week. They did the first
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: week they did. He gets the Colts, they did.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: No, But I did no, I said, idiot Zark.
• 25:08
  Speaker 6: A couple of times, and he did. He threw to Ridley.
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: He forced it.
• 25:11
  Speaker 7: I said, no, I was not disagreeing with your point
• 25:14
  Speaker 7: on week one. I don't think they forced it to
• 25:16
  Speaker 7: him yesterday.
• 25:17
  Speaker 6: No, I don't either, not at all.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: There's a weird NFL. You've been around it. You played
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: it at Tony JP, You've been around it. If he
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: catches that touchdown pass on the opening drive, is it
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: different game? Right?
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: The Jaguars might win by twenty one.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: It's so weird and it he drops it and you
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: get the special Team's disasters and next thing you know, you're.
• 25:40
  Speaker 7: I remember I remember as a player Tom Coughlin, this
• 25:44
  Speaker 7: was early maybe my rookie year, and I remember him
• 25:48
  Speaker 7: saying at a team meeting that five or six plays
• 25:51
  Speaker 7: determined the outcome of NFL game and you just don't
• 25:54
  Speaker 7: know what five or six they are. And I used
• 25:57
  Speaker 7: to think, I'm like, you're crazy, old, what are you
• 25:59
  Speaker 7: talking about?
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: But then you're rounded.
• 26:02
  Speaker 7: Enough, yeap, and you play it and then you watch
• 26:06
  Speaker 7: it or you cover it like you guys do and
• 26:08
  Speaker 7: I do now, and you want you're like, you know what,
• 26:13
  Speaker 7: there's five or six plays that determine the outcoming.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: You don't know what depends what they are.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, the different kind of plays will determine which
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: is the outcome. It's going to be too like I'll
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: give you an example. Just I know we're getting off
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: the tangent here. Last week and I told you this,
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: I think on the show the Broncos were winning twenty
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: one to three against Washington. There was a fumble. Russell
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: Wilson fumbled it. He didn't reach to try and recover it.
• 26:35
  Speaker 6: He stared at it. Washington recovers goes down twenty one
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: to eleven.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: Has that team been the same since they got a
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: seventy burger put on him on Sunday? Those are the
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: kind of things that and when it goes bad, you know, Tony,
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: you've been round that. It mushrooms, it goes bad, there's
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: nothing you can do to get out from underneath it.
• 26:55
  Speaker 7: Either it's like an avalanche. Well so it starts a
• 26:58
  Speaker 7: little snowball. Next thing you know, the whole mountains come
• 27:00
  Speaker 7: on top of you.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: That's what happened on Sunday to the Jaguars. It just
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: it didn't stop, none of it.
• 27:05
  Speaker 7: And by the way, when I say five or six plays,
• 27:07
  Speaker 7: I'm not blaming the loss and Calvin, really you can
• 27:10
  Speaker 7: line up all forty eight guys were active, and you
• 27:14
  Speaker 7: know each of them had partake part.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: You had a couple of bus in the secondary you have.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: You know, there's a million plays. You could look at
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: the fumble and just try to get back into it.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: I mean there's a million plays.
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: All right, we'll go through a lot of those plays
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: the rest of the show coming up. Defensive talk. They
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: didn't get much of a finger on Stroud. We'll get
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: to that coming up. Special Teams and the Jaguars are
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: no longer in first place in the AFC South. We'll
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: go through the division standings and the power rankings should
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: be interesting tonight. That's all coming up, and then in
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: the second hour, fanatics, fan questions, and we will keep
• 27:49
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• 27:53
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• 28:28
  Speaker 8: You know when you look at all three pages, I
• 28:31
  Speaker 8: think it's this preparation. Uh, you know, no one that's
• 28:34
  Speaker 8: gonna come communication. I know, you know, obviously you can
• 28:37
  Speaker 8: see you on the Puffing Saw Special Teams player, but
• 28:39
  Speaker 8: deviously communication was was not was not up to our standard.
• 28:45
  Speaker 8: And so there are those things that we can't improve on.
• 28:47
  Speaker 8: We know that prove before it. But you know you
• 28:50
  Speaker 8: can't do that, you know we, like you said, man,
• 28:53
  Speaker 8: we want to be who we know we can be.
• 28:54
  Speaker 8: We can't be making those can be making those errors.
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: Josh Allen, Jaguars outside linebacker after yesterday's lost to the
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  Speaker 4: Pete Prisco.
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  Speaker 3: Tony Bisselli recapped recapping this one on ten ten xl AM,
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• 29:26
  Speaker 3: a quarterback that had been hit nineteen times in the
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: first game, the first two games of the season, sacked
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: eleven times. The Jaguars sacked him exactly none zero in
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: the game and Stroud looked poised.
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: You know, even when.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: There was a little pressure, the pocket might have been
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: squeezing a little bit, he would slide and find a
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: way to get it out. And hey, the Jags pass
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: rush just wasn't there. Pete yet again and this is
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: this is not trending the right way.
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: I'll say that.
• 29:59
  Speaker 6: Well, let's yes, and I texted you guys this today.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: They have a high draft pick, the number one overall
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: pick on Trayvon Walker. They have a first round pick
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: on Devin Lloyd. They have a top ten pick on
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: Josh Allen. Of those three, Josh Allen at least flashes
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: once in a while and make some plays. Trayvon Walker
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: made a play in the run game. I think pass
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: rush non existent. Devin Lloyd he gets blocked. When was
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: the last time you went, oh, my god, what a
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: great play by that middle linebacker if you had picked
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: off the ball that he should have intercepted. Maybe, but
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: I just don't see the impact plays. Then Muma comes in,
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: another guy you drafted at a position where you had
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: forty of them, and all he.
• 30:47
  Speaker 6: Does is get blocked the entire time too.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: It's amazing to me the lack of production from guys.
• 30:55
  Speaker 6: We talked about this.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: All year, all off season, year one to year two
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: growth that was gonna be the biggest difference in the defense.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: These guys are gonna grow up, They're gonna become players.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: Is any any one of them any better? Is Devin
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: Lloyd maybe a little bit better because he knows where
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: to line up, but he's not flashing Traymon Walker. Oh,
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: he plays hard, he plays a run well, that's not
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: why he drafted him one overall. And Muma when he
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: did come in, was blocked the entire time. So I
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: think when you look at it, that's the problem. The
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: year one, the year two. Guys haven't done much from
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: year one to year two, the year two to year three.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, don't you agree.
• 31:42
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't. I don't think. Yeah, I don't think
• 31:50
  Speaker 7: they played well yesterday. I mean I think your point.
• 31:55
  Speaker 7: Muma got blocked quite a bit. I thought coverage there
• 31:59
  Speaker 7: was one that jumped out of me on the twelve
• 32:02
  Speaker 7: what's twelve's name for the Texans good player? I can't
• 32:05
  Speaker 7: think of it right now. Receiverco Nico Collins. He ended
• 32:11
  Speaker 7: the half when they ended up getting three more that's
• 32:13
  Speaker 7: they never should have gotten. He runs a crossing route
• 32:16
  Speaker 7: and woman did not look good in space, like a
• 32:22
  Speaker 7: little contacts one. I'm assuming he's he has Nico Collin
• 32:25
  Speaker 7: coming across the middle. The he catches it, should have
• 32:28
  Speaker 7: come up and tackled him.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: For little no gain.
• 32:30
  Speaker 7: And he runs right by him, And I'm not putting
• 32:33
  Speaker 7: all him because he ran through a bunch ran by
• 32:35
  Speaker 7: a bunch of guys, ran through tackles.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: But setting aside Pete, I think it's a.
• 32:40
  Speaker 7: The more interesting conversation to me is whether you know
• 32:43
  Speaker 7: they you know, no one played well, so them included.
• 32:47
  Speaker 7: But here's the big thing. Last year, did anyone on
• 32:52
  Speaker 7: this radio show. We'll just I'll just keep it to
• 32:56
  Speaker 7: the three of us think that we had a the
• 32:57
  Speaker 7: defense was our strength.
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: No, no, Now they had flash moments late where they
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: would take the ball away.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Okay, but was it a strength where we great out
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: rush passer or.
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: Okay?
• 33:14
  Speaker 7: This off season? And Trent's the GM, so I'm assuming
• 33:20
  Speaker 7: it was Trent. I'm sure Doug had saying it. But
• 33:23
  Speaker 7: our our our GM, and and and and and scouts
• 33:28
  Speaker 7: and the leadership, and Doug put everyone into whoever it was.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: However the decision was made, I don't know how those
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: are made.
• 33:35
  Speaker 7: Decided to make zero investments on the defense side of
• 33:41
  Speaker 7: the ball and in free agency, and no meaningful investment
• 33:48
  Speaker 7: in the draft.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: On the defense of the ball. What they were betting on,
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: they were making a bet.
• 33:56
  Speaker 7: In fact, I would argue they lost they went back
• 34:00
  Speaker 7: from a personnel standpoint from last year's team because they
• 34:03
  Speaker 7: lost arden Key, who was one of the better pass rushers,
• 34:07
  Speaker 7: and they knew that Dwan Smoot would not be back
• 34:09
  Speaker 7: until later this year, who for a stretch was the
• 34:12
  Speaker 7: best pass rusher on the team as well. Those guys
• 34:14
  Speaker 7: were some of the more productive players. And so you
• 34:18
  Speaker 7: lose you lose Smoot to an injury, you lose arden
• 34:20
  Speaker 7: Key to free agency, and you do nothing. You don't
• 34:25
  Speaker 7: really replace either of those guys, and you make no
• 34:27
  Speaker 7: meaningful investments.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: And they were betting.
• 34:33
  Speaker 7: That the Year one players would the Year one, excuse me,
• 34:41
  Speaker 7: the Year one players would take a big jump and
• 34:44
  Speaker 7: be the players that they drafted to be and they'd
• 34:46
  Speaker 7: be dominant.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: Trayvon Walker, Muma, Devin Lloyd.
• 34:50
  Speaker 7: That those guys would be staples on this defense. And
• 34:54
  Speaker 7: they didn't make any bets to bring anyone new in
• 34:56
  Speaker 7: because they're making a bet on the guys they drafted
• 34:59
  Speaker 7: the year before and some of the free agents they
• 35:01
  Speaker 7: had the year before, because you know, they figured Ponto
• 35:03
  Speaker 7: Cossi'd be healthy. You know that Darius Wounds would be
• 35:06
  Speaker 7: better because they moved outside like you you know, start
• 35:09
  Speaker 7: with trending in the end of the year, and right now, people,
• 35:12
  Speaker 7: what you're saying is those bets are landing, aren't paying off,
• 35:20
  Speaker 7: but it's still early, right.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: But if you drafted the right guys or the right guy,
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: you might not you know, I be saying that if
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: Trayvon Walker, Okay, if Trayvon Walker was dumping people for
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: like three four putting pressure on guys, you know, four
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: or five times a game, and and and or three
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: or four times a game and getting a couple of
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: sacks here and there, you wouldn't even having this conversation, right,
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: And you know, at some point, Tony it gets We've
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: said at a time and again too. He's a good foot,
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: he plays a run well, he plays hard, He's a
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: good football player. That ain't enough for the number one
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: overall pick. I mean, he's I showed you a play.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: I sent you a play when he looped from the
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: outside in.
• 36:09
  Speaker 6: What the hell was that you saw it? What do
• 36:13
  Speaker 6: you think of that play?
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Wasn't it very physical?
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: When a running back is there waiting for you, you
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: blast him and send him into the quarterback.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: That's it's one play.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: I guess my well, but but that's it's just he's
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: a good, tough, physical football player who wasn't physical on
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: that play.
• 36:30
  Speaker 7: Am I describing this wrong? I mean that's the bet Trent,
• 36:34
  Speaker 7: Bulky and Doug basically made.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: No, you're right, that's the one year, year one, a
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: year two that we talk about all the time.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: We did nothing. Our investment this offseason was all offense.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: They got Michael They got Michael Dogby as a free agent,
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: didn't they?
• 36:50
  Speaker 7: Okay, again, let me go through this. We got Colvin
• 36:54
  Speaker 7: Ridley in a trade. First round pick, Anton Harrison, second round.
• 37:00
  Speaker 6: Pick was even the tight end?
• 37:04
  Speaker 7: Strange, strange third round pick, fourth round pick I can't
• 37:11
  Speaker 7: remember well.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: The fifth was Abdulla. The linebacker Miller from from Florida
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: was the fourth.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: Okay, Miller. So we didn't do anything on the defensive side.
• 37:22
  Speaker 6: He wasn't gonna play anyways, right.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: Tyler Tyler Lacy was in the fourth round. But wasn't
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: Von Tree Miller in the fourth?
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: The fourth round? Yes?
• 37:32
  Speaker 6: Okay, so von Trell Miller.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: You picked him in the fourth round even though he
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: had no chance of playing, zero chance. So, Tony, are
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: you criticizing the draft strategy?
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: I'm not. I guess I'm not really I'm not really.
• 37:51
  Speaker 7: I'm just I mean, it's less of a criticism, Pete.
• 37:56
  Speaker 7: It's kind of is what it is. That's the bet
• 37:57
  Speaker 7: you made.
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: So the next question is how does it improve? Can
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: they it's week three going into week four? Is it
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: on the coaching? Is it on the players themselves?
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: Now, to get right.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: About that, JP, the bet they made for this season
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: was because of the bet they made last season. Your
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: GM and you use the number one overall pick on
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: Trayvon Walker, and you used the first round pick you
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: went back in to go get Devin Lloyd. You're thinking
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: in your mind that they are big time stars and
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: they're going to take the next step. So you did
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: never do anything this year because you did what you
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: did the year before.
• 38:32
  Speaker 6: So you can be criticized for both of them.
• 38:36
  Speaker 7: And you spent a bunch of free agent capital last
• 38:40
  Speaker 7: year on defense too, with Fotokosi Alu Khan and Varius
• 38:45
  Speaker 7: Williams and Rayshawn Jenkins.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: No Jenkins was the year before, I think, right.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: But still you're talking about a lot of money invested
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: on that side of the ball, a lot of draft
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: capital invested on that side of the ball, and they're
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: not getting banged for the buck, particularly when it comes
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: to rushing the passer. That's but you had you had coverage,
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: Boss too. I mean, those those are I don't know.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: I think Doug said today. One was either Rashon Jenkins,
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: what was he doing? He was dropped down and tried
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: to high tail it to the back end and couldn't
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: get there because it was a miscommunication there. I don't
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: he said they were both down, but they weren't both down.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: Rashon Jenkins was down and tried to get to the
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: back he couldn't do it. Then on the other one,
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: Darius Williams, one of them went to the wrong Both
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: went to the wrong.
• 39:34
  Speaker 6: Guy, and so miscommunication.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: That's I think that's what you're talking back Tony when
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: he's pointing all that stuff out about kind of accountability.
• 39:44
  Speaker 6: Those are not physical getting beat mistakes.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: Those are mental mistakes, not sitting down in your zone,
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: mental mistakes, jumping off sides as a wide receiver, mental mistakes.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, they're it's just but I will say this though,
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: as a it relates to physicality, the Texans were the
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: much more physical team. When you watch that tape, you
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: notice guys flying around. Jimmy Ward played great.
• 40:10
  Speaker 6: I thought he was all over the place.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: And and they fly to it. They're not, They're not
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: overly talented on that side of the ball.
• 40:17
  Speaker 6: They fly to the football.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: Agree.
• 40:20
  Speaker 7: I agree with you, Pete and JP to your question,
• 40:24
  Speaker 7: So what do you do? Who's responsible?
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: Coach? Players? All of them.
• 40:30
  Speaker 7: A coach's job is to design a game plan in
• 40:33
  Speaker 7: schemes on both sides of the ball, to maximize the
• 40:36
  Speaker 7: guys you have's talent to give you the best chance
• 40:39
  Speaker 7: to win.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: That's their job.
• 40:41
  Speaker 7: The guys on the field, their job is to go
• 40:44
  Speaker 7: execute and go beat the hell out of the guy
• 40:46
  Speaker 7: in front of them, or go cover the guy in
• 40:48
  Speaker 7: front of them, or go beat the you know, whatever
• 40:50
  Speaker 7: it means, and to execute their job.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: And so it's both have to do better.
• 40:56
  Speaker 7: And I think that's what Doug said as a player,
• 40:59
  Speaker 7: I mean, and put more of the onus on the players,
• 41:03
  Speaker 7: because I've always thought this is a players league and
• 41:06
  Speaker 7: players gotta go play. Pete and I joke all the
• 41:10
  Speaker 7: time that it's not about x's and o's, it's about
• 41:11
  Speaker 7: Jimmy's and Joe's, and not that x's and o's aren't important.
• 41:15
  Speaker 7: I mean, we saw what leadership does in this place.
• 41:18
  Speaker 7: Getting Doug Peterson hired, great leader, great head coach, so
• 41:22
  Speaker 7: that matters a ton, But it's guy's gotta go play.
• 41:26
  Speaker 7: And and I think let's start with the defensive side
• 41:29
  Speaker 7: of the ball. Unless something changes, it doesn't look like
• 41:36
  Speaker 7: we're gonna win a lot of one on one matchups.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: And the best guy who has a chance to do
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: that is Josh Allen.
• 41:43
  Speaker 7: He had three of the four pressures yesterday and he
• 41:45
  Speaker 7: was basically playing on one arm, so.
• 41:48
  Speaker 6: And he was still the best pass rusher.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: He was still the best.
• 41:51
  Speaker 7: So outside of Josh Allen, there's not many guys who
• 41:55
  Speaker 7: are gonna win on one one on one. Roy Robinson,
• 41:58
  Speaker 7: Harris will push the pocket. He had some good bull
• 42:00
  Speaker 7: rushes to squeeze it. But we do not have a
• 42:04
  Speaker 7: dynamic pass rusher. And and and while Josh is our best,
• 42:09
  Speaker 7: I wouldn't he's not disruptive. He's not a guy at
• 42:14
  Speaker 7: this right so far, what we've seen so far who's
• 42:17
  Speaker 7: gonna line up and just beat you one on one.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: And that tackles losing sleep to night before the game,
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: like TJ.
• 42:24
  Speaker 6: Watt does.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: Or Von Miller when you.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: Know, yeah, that's not what he is not on Max
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: Crosby or any of the guys that can do.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: Crosby or Joey Bosa.
• 42:36
  Speaker 6: Or Nick Bosa or right.
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, that's what it is.
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: Hey, Let's come back special teams when we return AFC
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  Speaker 4: I do uh, I think that's real. And and.
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  Speaker 5: You know, you know, I've been around this game too
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  Speaker 5: long to know that you can't can't live in the past,
• 43:42
  Speaker 5: or you're gonna you're gonna fail in the future. And
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: you know, we've just got to focus one day at
• 43:47
  Speaker 5: a time. We got to get better each day and
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  Speaker 5: can't worry about next week or the week after. Can't
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  Speaker 5: worry about the London trip coming up. We can't, you know,
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  Speaker 5: we just got to focus in on on the week
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  Speaker 5: at hand. And and you know that that that part
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  Speaker 5: of it starts with me and making sure that the
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  Speaker 5: guys are you know, hearing that message, you know, allowed
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  Speaker 5: and clear for me, and and I'll make sure that
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  Speaker 5: they get that message.
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: Doug Peterson asked if the after the game yesterday if
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: the Jaguars were.
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: Leading reading the headlines a little too much.
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: Of course, he's elaborated since then and welcome back and
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  Speaker 3: dot com Jaguars. Well, I mean he said again today,
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: I mean he said, yeah, maybe they're reading the clippings, right,
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: He just kept talking about that, so he was.
• 44:34
  Speaker 6: He thinks they got a little too full of himself.
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it feels like he's saying it in
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: a nice way. Yeah.
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: Well, basically he's basically saying this team hasn't done anything
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: last year, is over last year is not gonna help
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: you this year, and they've got to figure it out
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: now and this is and that's a nice way of
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: doing it, apparently, got into him at halftime during the
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: game from old kind of the stories you here after
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: the game and let him know today and no uncertain terms,
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: how it was yesterday, I think from the tone that
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: Doug Peterson gave today and certainly on the special teams portion.
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: Of the football game yesterday, a.
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: Miss field goal from McManus pushed it, gosh, about seven
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: yards wide right, a blocked field goal between the guard
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: and tackle on the left side. Will Anderson got his
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: two big hands on it.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: It was actually the tight end and tackle.
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: Was it further out? It was further out? Got it? Okay, Tony?
• 45:31
  Speaker 7: I think Walker Little plays tight end in the field
• 45:36
  Speaker 7: road protection.
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: Okay, fair enough from the left and a little further
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: out than I thought.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And those are usually embarrassing plays for specialties, but
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: it ain't his embarrassing as the next one you're gonna bring.
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: Here we go the eighty five yard kickoff return for
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: a touchdown. It hit the I guess the up man
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: you would call him, in front of the returner. They
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: tried a mortar kick and it worked out because it
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: was chaos for the Texans. He fumbled it recovered at
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: the fifteen broke contain missed the tackle.
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: Trey Herndon.
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: He outran the kicker and then he outran a running back.
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: He's in the twenty, he's the ten. He's gone touchdown. Texans.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: They let Tony BISSELLI return a kick for a touchdown.
• 46:20
  Speaker 6: That's what that guy look like. He's the full back.
• 46:24
  Speaker 6: It's incredible he's the fullback that one.
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: It's an all timer. Pete.
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: Well, well, okay, let's start with the decision for the
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: mortar kick. What's the thinking behind that.
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: I think it's just to pin them deep because they
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: felt like the coverage units were playing pretty well.
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: We can play the kick again. And I watched it
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: on the All twenty two. There wasn't a Jacksonville player
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: across the thirty when he first went to catch the
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: football at the ten. So just using the force of nature,
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: if he catches it, he's probably gonna be at the
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty one twenty two yard line. Is it worth it?
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: Just kick the damn ball out of the end zone
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: and make them started the twenty five? What is the
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: rationale behind that? Or did he not get the ball
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: deep enough on the mortar kick?
• 47:12
  Speaker 6: Is that a possibility?
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: No? They said today there was executed.
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: So well, they need to execute that out of the
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: playbook because it just kicked the damn ball out of
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: the end zone. I mean, seriously, I just want to
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: just for the for the argument's sake here, what is
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: to be gained from that?
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: Well, we'll come back, and he's coming back, Tony.
• 47:38
  Speaker 6: He caught the ball at the ten.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: If he doesn't drop it, they didn't have a player
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: over the thirty. So let's assume they meet somewhere that
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: the guy's gonna get a couple of yards after they meet,
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: So he's gonna get to the twenty twenty two anyways,
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: So for three or four yards, you're risking that.
• 47:55
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• 48:09
  Speaker 5: Focus on the highlights, but you definitely coach at all.
• 48:13
  Speaker 5: That's why days like today are so important with the
• 48:15
  Speaker 5: guys in the building to be able to show the
• 48:17
  Speaker 5: mistakes and make those corrections today, you know, before we
• 48:20
  Speaker 5: hit the practice field again on on Wednesday, and then
• 48:24
  Speaker 5: you know, you just.
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: You have to you have to you have to show.
• 48:30
  Speaker 5: You have to show the good, the bad, the ugly,
• 48:31
  Speaker 5: you know, to the players and get in. You know,
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: my job is to is to paint the picture. I mean,
• 48:36
  Speaker 5: this is where we are, this is not who we
• 48:38
  Speaker 5: want to be, and this is where we're going.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: And you know, all that stuff is still right in front.
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: Of them, said coach Doug Peterson earlier.
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: Today is Monday day after press conference, the day after
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: a twenty point loss to the Houston Texas.
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  Speaker 4: It's thirty seven seventeen.
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  Speaker 2: Here are you the only one there?
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  Speaker 6: So you must have a spread in front of you.
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  Speaker 3: each and every Monday. That's Pete Prisco Tony Boselli recapping
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: this one. We wrapped up the first hour in the
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: middle of a heated special teams discussion. I didn't mind
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: the mortar kick. Pete hates it, Tony, where are you
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: on it?
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: Um? Indifferent? Execute execute the play?
• 49:47
  Speaker 6: What is the game from getting it?
• 49:49
  Speaker 7: But if you execute it, I see them teams do
• 49:52
  Speaker 7: it all the time. They've done countless times. You get
• 49:54
  Speaker 7: them down inside the twenty. It's a change up.
• 49:57
  Speaker 6: Okay, But that one wasn't gonna be inside the twenty
• 50:00
  Speaker 6: either way.
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: It was kicked.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying it was. It didn't execute any part
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: of it.
• 50:04
  Speaker 6: The JP said, they said.
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: The kick was right. It was, yes, right there at
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: the kids.
• 50:10
  Speaker 7: Fine, but the guys weren't down there, Pete, we let
• 50:14
  Speaker 7: a full back.
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: We turned a touchdown eighty six yards. What part was
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: executed properly?
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: No, No, I'm saying, even if you executed it properly,
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: you're going to be at the twenty.
• 50:35
  Speaker 6: Is that worth five yards?
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: The risk of people do it all the time? Change up,
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: You're missing the point.
• 50:42
  Speaker 6: It's not damn ball out of the end zone to play.
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: Football, It's not. That is part of football. Kicking off
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: is part of the football logy.
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: Is that why you have the kicker with a big
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: leg that kicked the ball out of the back of
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: the end zone?
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: My point is, Pete, is.
• 51:01
  Speaker 7: The ten guys out there or I mean eleven guards,
• 51:04
  Speaker 7: I'll even put the kicker there. Should never in the
• 51:06
  Speaker 7: NFL allow a full back to return a kick eighty
• 51:11
  Speaker 7: six yards.
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: I don't care where you kick.
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: It, right, I agree with you. It was terrible, but
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: I know one way that they would have been.
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, good kick it. I mean, I admit you're right
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: on that point, Pete. However, I think they executed the
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: kick well. The coverage was not executive.
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: Mis reward isn't worth it, It's just not worth it.
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: Well, that changed the entire game because the Jags were
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: back within seventh that point. That takes it back to
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: fourteen and good night and good luck the rest.
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: Of the way.
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: And again, if you pin him in there with your
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: eighty five bears defense, that might be a good strategy.
• 51:45
  Speaker 4: Thank you, Pete. That, of course, one of the issues.
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: All three phases with issues, and yesterday's loss that was
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: just part of the special teams they have.
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: Miss field goal, block field goal.
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: The offense had drops and penalties throughout the day. Ran
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: the ball okay, just not enough to carry them over
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: the finish line, and then zero pass rush from the
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: Jaguars defense and issues on the back end.
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: So now the.
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: Jaguars searching for answers and it's time to take this
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: show international. The Jaguars visit Wimbley Stadium and the Atlanta
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: Falcons two weeks in London by the way, Falcons this
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: week of course, and then at the Bills at Tottenham
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: Hotspur in week five. This is the Jaguars tenth London
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: game coming up the ninth at Wembley. The Jags trying
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: to snap a three game skid under the arch at Wembley.
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: The last win in that stadium was twenty seventeen. They
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: lost eighteen nineteen and twenty two, no game in twenty
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: They won at Tottenham Hotspur in twenty one. So moving
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: it forward, Tony, you started the show with this idea,
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: and let's follow it up. Now, who are the guys
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: to step up and turn this thing around? On the
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: Jaguars roster right now? Who are you counting on of
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: the fifty three to make sure this doesn't happen anymore?
• 52:59
  Speaker 7: I mean, I think it starts with it starts with
• 53:02
  Speaker 7: Trevor Lawrence in the offense, and then if I'm going
• 53:07
  Speaker 7: deeper on the offense and start. I'll say this, the
• 53:10
  Speaker 7: offensive line and Trevor Lawrence can solve this whole thing.
• 53:15
  Speaker 7: If you if you can play good, if you can
• 53:18
  Speaker 7: control the line of scrimmage, and you can and you
• 53:22
  Speaker 7: have a high level of quarterback play, you're tough to beat.
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: You disagree with that.
• 53:28
  Speaker 6: No, Yeah, it starts with him.
• 53:31
  Speaker 7: It has to start with him, I mean, and so
• 53:35
  Speaker 7: that's where I start on offense, offensive line and Trevor
• 53:39
  Speaker 7: and then defense you're gonna have to I mean until
• 53:43
  Speaker 7: further notice, you're gonna have to blitch. You're gonna take chances.
• 53:45
  Speaker 7: But this team's not set up the blitz because they
• 53:47
  Speaker 7: don't play man coverage in the back end very well.
• 53:51
  Speaker 6: How do you when you talk about what you want
• 53:53
  Speaker 6: him to do.
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: Is is just send six Sometimes.
• 54:00
  Speaker 6: Don't want him to ever do that.
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: But out outside of playing.
• 54:06
  Speaker 7: Outside of playing really good, I mean, outside of rushing
• 54:09
  Speaker 7: the passer better and winning one on one, I mean,
• 54:13
  Speaker 7: the answer is, then you're gonna have to have eleven
• 54:14
  Speaker 7: guys who are on the same page and run to
• 54:16
  Speaker 7: the ball and play physical and just create turnovers and
• 54:20
  Speaker 7: get stops by just swarming around and just playing great
• 54:24
  Speaker 7: team defense.
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: Because I don't I don't see the one disruptor. I don't.
• 54:29
  Speaker 7: I mean, if Josh Allen can step up his game
• 54:32
  Speaker 7: a little bit because he's playing solid right now, you know,
• 54:36
  Speaker 7: can he become that disruptive guy. I mean outside of that,
• 54:39
  Speaker 7: I think it's eleven guys that are gonna.
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: Have to run around.
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: I think, and I think on Trayvon Walker, I just haven't.
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: I'm not giving up heat.
• 54:46
  Speaker 7: I haven't seen anything that makes me see that it's
• 54:49
  Speaker 7: any different than last year.
• 54:51
  Speaker 6: Right, And that's that's what the scary part is.
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: We're three games in and by this time we should
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: be sitting there saying, Oh, he's a different player, and
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: he's not.
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: If he was, you didn't see anything in camp though either.
• 55:03
  Speaker 6: No, if he was, then you wouldn't have this problem.
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: That's I go back to.
• 55:09
  Speaker 7: So it's gonna take eleven guys, and if I'm looking
• 55:12
  Speaker 7: at all eleven guys, I means you have to be
• 55:14
  Speaker 7: solid up for run against the run, and I think
• 55:16
  Speaker 7: probably lu Con Most is a key guy to get
• 55:19
  Speaker 7: everyone going.
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: I think he's the leader of that defense.
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: Didn't by the way, didn't Abdullah get a pressure yesterday?
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: Credit one?
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: What's that?
• 55:32
  Speaker 6: JP?
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: Taking a look at the official status sheet. He's not
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: in it, but they did not give the pressures are
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: not an official league stat Yeah, I.
• 55:40
  Speaker 6: Thought he got a pressure, but maybe he was close onone.
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: He got in there. But I still think, you know,
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: stepping up on defense.
• 55:50
  Speaker 6: It has to be the pass rushers.
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: It has to be.
• 55:54
  Speaker 6: Those are two.
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: It's it's the same story every year for everybody. It's
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: the offensive line, the rushers, and the quarterback. If they
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: all do their job, then you're not gonna have any problems.
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: But Pete, do you see?
• 56:08
  Speaker 7: Okay, So then you've got to play great team defense
• 56:11
  Speaker 7: like they did last year at the end of the year.
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: And they say a lot of bounces to go their
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: way and stuff too. But I guess what you're saying.
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: You gotta help, you gotta hope you turn the ball
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: over and do things like that. I'm gonna go back
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: to something we've been preaching on this program since last year.
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: Forty four needs to go down. He needs to put
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: his hand on the ground. He needs to play down.
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: This experiment him when he plays the standard that plays
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: the outside. I don't think he's an outside guy. I
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: just don't. I think he could be a dominant down player,
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: don't you or a good one.
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: I don't know, get a good one.
• 56:49
  Speaker 6: He could be better playing down than he would be
• 56:51
  Speaker 6: where he is right now.
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: In my mind, pet who do you put out there?
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: Then?
• 56:56
  Speaker 6: Well, Clowney Justin used.
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: To you know what, there's only games left this season, Pete.
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: If you make that change, which they probably won't do
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: mid season.
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: Key, I mean, you know Clowney has a sack and
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: a half.
• 57:14
  Speaker 4: By the way, that's great. Good for Clowney. He's not here.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: I mean he's not a great pass rusher, but he's something.
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: It would have been something they had him in the building,
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: did they not. Tony's point is acting they didn't even
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: address it none because they got so caught up in
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: their own picks that they didn't think they needed to
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: address it.
• 57:40
  Speaker 6: See, and that's when GM sometimes get in trouble. Tony
• 57:43
  Speaker 6: is they.
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: I drafted this guy first. Overall, he is going to
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: take the next step. I don't need any help for him.
• 57:51
  Speaker 7: Well, he I had this conversation, and I'm not I'm
• 57:56
  Speaker 7: not gonna say who was with.
• 57:59
  Speaker 4: Not In.
• 58:00
  Speaker 7: It wasn't about us, It wasn't about Trent or anyone else.
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: But we were talking about GMS in general.
• 58:06
  Speaker 7: And I've said this before, I think on this show
• 58:09
  Speaker 7: my gauge, then that's what I think makes one of
• 58:14
  Speaker 7: the key characteristics of a great GM is an individual
• 58:19
  Speaker 7: who is unafraid to admit their mistake really quickly. It's
• 58:25
  Speaker 7: the teams that languish. The teams that languish are the
• 58:28
  Speaker 7: ones that have GMS and leadership that.
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: Refused to make to own up to their.
• 58:35
  Speaker 7: Mistake and say, got it wrong, time to pivot, and
• 58:39
  Speaker 7: then they end up doubling down on those decisions, and
• 58:43
  Speaker 7: it hurts the franchise.
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: It hurts the team in the long run.
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: And that's where you get the Sometimes you get the
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: problems with the coach because the coach will be sitting
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: there saying, hey, we should be playing him over here
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: and that, yeah, you know how that works out. That's
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: why you get riffs in the building and everything. I'm
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: not saying that's happening, actually, I'm just saying I've known
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: it's happened around the league many a time. I went
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: with a GM every Sunday. A former NFL G was
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: an NFL GM forever and he won't admit his mistakes.
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: I tell him all the time. I go, that's a mistake.
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: You didn't like him, you liked him, you know in Spielman,
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: Rick Spielman.
• 59:17
  Speaker 6: Yeah, they don't. And he's he's he was a good,
• 59:20
  Speaker 6: really good GM for a long time.
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: But they don't.
• 59:23
  Speaker 6: Tony's right, They don't admit their mistakes.
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: But the good ones do.
• 59:28
  Speaker 4: Who the longest, who the longest tenured GMS? Right now?
• 59:32
  Speaker 4: He was?
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: He was a long really a longest one of the
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: longest tenured guys of Minnesota. Needless to say, I sit
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: there and say Christian Ponder's name every day. But of course.
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
• 59:44
  Speaker 7: And by the way, I'm not saying Trayvon's a mistake.
• 59:47
  Speaker 7: It's still three games into his second year, correct, So
• 59:50
  Speaker 7: like I'm not saying that, you're saying right now, he's
• 59:53
  Speaker 7: not that guy right.
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: Now, he's a mistake until he proves otherwise.
• 59:57
  Speaker 7: And so which I never understood the offseason, why aren't
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 7: we going to get a veteran pass rusher when we
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 7: lost arden Key, when there was a bunch out there.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 6: You know who had two sacks yesterday?
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: A Hudson? Did I know that?
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah he did, and he got one rushing inside on
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: the guard.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 4: I mean also the force funding recovery and two passes.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 6: This isn't fast Trayvon Walker day. That's not what this is.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: We're talking about the defense in general, and we're talking.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: About Trayvon Walker, and he's not responsible for where he
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: was picked. He as the first overall pick in the draft.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: He's producing no pressure. So as of right now, he
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: is a miss until he proves otherwise. You drafted him
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: to be a pass rusher. He's got one sack.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: Pete, I guess I disagree.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 7: I don't like labeling someone after three games and the
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 7: second season is a miss.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: I just disagree with you. I mean, you can, you.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 6: Can get as right now, he can change the narrative.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 7: The qualifiers you want on it. I just don't think
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 7: that's right. Like my whole point is, I think it
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 7: was a bad bet. Number one, Okay, I think it
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 7: was a bad bet to bet.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: Your defense on.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 7: Bet treymon Walker and Devin Lloyd and some of these
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 7: younger players like a Chad movement. We're gonna take this
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 7: big step and we're gonna be big contributors to change
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 7: his defense.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: Because I saw nothing.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 7: At any point last year that made you say they
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 7: were ready to take that step into what you needed
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 7: them to be. Now, I could make an argument more
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 7: for Devin Lloyd because it felt like everyone thought it
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 7: was more mental, him just getting comfortable in the position.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 7: So you would think that would happen after second year.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 7: As far as skill set of a pass rusher, did
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 7: we ever see last year the skill set of a
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 7: pure pass rusher from Treymon Walker. No, doesn't mean he's
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 7: not a hell of a football players. Physicals crap, and
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 7: he's disruptive in other ways, but he's not a pass rusher.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: And so the fact that we made no, we didn't
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: do anything.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 7: In fact, we went backwards because we lost arden Key,
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 7: who was a five sack guy but had a bunch
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 7: of pressures, who was active and brought good rotation.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: We let him go. I just I disagreed in this offseason.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: I said it. I disagree now with the bet that
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: we made, But that's the bet.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 6: Was it a bad bet? You talk about bad bet?
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: It was a bad bet to pick Trayvon Walker first overall,
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: I mean it was a questionable pick. When they made it.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: They were projecting the projecting a college player to become
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: an elite pass rusher on the next level when he
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: wasn't an elite pass rusher in college.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 6: That's projecting. So as of right now, the projection has
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 6: not worked.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: I'll say this.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 7: I actually in the last several years, if you notice,
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 7: whenever we talk in the draft, I stay away from
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 7: the draft because I don't do the work. And now
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 7: you probably have more room to talk about the draft
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 7: because you do more work than time. I just don't
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 7: go watch every college kid's tape and everything else. I
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 7: watch Saturday football mostly SC as a fan, which, by
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 7: the way, your Sun Devil's played well, but we played crappy.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: We still beat you by fourteen.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: You were scared there for a little while though, No,
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: not really, but by that little That tight end at
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: ASU number twelve is a damn good player, isn't he
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: big kick?
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: I don't care you're you're you're in our rear view
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: mirror the uh So.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 7: I don't study, So I'm not going to sit here
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 7: and debate pick by pick of what Trent did or
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 7: any other GM does, because this is what they do
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 7: for a living. I have no problem having questions and
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 7: giving my opinion around the state of the football team.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 7: I watch a lot of tape on and spent a
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 7: lot of time around, which is the Jacksonville Jaguars. And
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 7: so I'm not going to get into whether Treybon was
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 7: the right pick or not. I will say this as
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 7: an overall philosophy, I don't think you pick a guy
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 7: and projecting to do something that he never did in
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 7: college or showed he could do in college with a
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 7: top first round pick. I think you make those projections,
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 7: those bets maybe later in the first, second, third, and
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 7: really you want to make those bets in the second, third.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: Fourth round.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 6: Would you take now, right.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 7: Philosophical standpoint, I just don't think you make those bets.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 7: I think when you pick a guy in the top ten,
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 7: you are saying this dude, I see what he can do,
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 7: and I'm bringing him to do what he does.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: Would you take Hutchinson over Trayvon Walker right now for
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: this defense?
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 7: I think for what we need as far as a
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 7: pass rusher, Aiden Hutchinson is a better pure pass rusher.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: From the defensive end standpoint than Trayvon Walker.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: And by the way, real quick, Kavon Thibodeau hasn't done.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 4: Anything either, hes not no indeed.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 7: And I thought he would be good and I watched
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 7: tape on him, and to me, he's a one trick pony.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 7: He has speed and nothing else, and if that's all
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 7: you have in this league, you're not gonna make it.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 7: And I don't think he has like exceptional bend around
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 7: the corner or anything like that that if you have
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 7: speed in great bend, that makes it difficult. But and
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 7: this is not a referendum on Trayvon Walker whether he's
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 7: a valuable part of our team and a good football player.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 7: We're talking about pass rush and when.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: You can't get anywhere.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 7: Close to the most second quarterback in the NFL who
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 7: has four backup offensive linemen playing, that's problematic. And you
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 7: allowed a rookie quarterback to sit in the pocket be comfortable.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 7: And by the way, whoever in the hell picked Bryce
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 7: Shojohang over CJ.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: Stroud.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 7: I mean, I watched both of them this week, and
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 7: maybe Bryce you's gonna be a great player. And again
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 7: I don't watch little. I saw him on the and
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 7: I'm like, oh.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: My, and now his ankles and now his ankle's hurt.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: And they always said his risks. He had the wrist
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: of the seventeen year old.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 6: That's not a good thing.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: He's just I'm not saying can't. He's smart. He can
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: sling it's.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: Little, just little.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 4: We gotta go.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: We'll come back little and he can sling it.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 4: We'll come back.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: We got to keep it real when we come back,
• 1:06:23
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• 1:06:26
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  Speaker 9: And I thought we had a good plan. Plan doesn't
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 9: mean anything, though, if you don't go to execute it, it
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 9: doesn't really matter how good your plan was if you
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 9: don't make the plays, so it doesn't really matter. But
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 9: I thought we had a good plan. I thought we
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 9: did some things well. I thought we were in rhythm
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 9: almost the whole day. Then we would just shoot ourselves
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 9: on foot repeatedly, just couldn't get out of our own way.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 9: But I didn't ever feel like they were doing anything
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 9: that we weren't prepared for that, you know, I think
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 9: we stayed in a rhythm. I don't know if we
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 9: had any three and outs today. I thought we were
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 9: moving the ball consistently and we would just make that
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 9: play that you don't need to make, and we did
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 9: that five or six times.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 3: So that's the quarterback Trevor Lawrence after the game. I
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: lost thirty seven to seventeen to the Houston Texans in
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: week three, the Jaguars are now one and two. All right,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: let hey, we didn't get to the AFC South Power rankings.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: By the way, the Jaguars are no longer in first
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 3: place in the division. So are there changes to the
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: AFC South Power rankings? From Pete Frisco and Tony Boselli. Pete,
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 3: what do you got for us?
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 6: Yep?
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: Colts are number one, Jacksonville's number two? The tight Yeah,
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: or maybe I should put the Texans number two.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: It's not like it was a flu.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 7: They just beat us by fourteen Was it seventeen points
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 7: or fourteen points?
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: What was?
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: But again, if I don't get the idea that thirty
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: seven of.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: This segment, I said thirty seven to seventeen, Tony, you're
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: not paying attention.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: So, Tony, if they played again ten times, you think
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: the Texans would win seven of them?
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 6: I don't, Oh you do?
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: No, I think the Jaguars will win eight out of fen.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: So you think the Jaguars are a better team than so?
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: How can you put the Texans ahead of them?
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: Because they just beat us like twenty at home?
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: Okay, because I'm doing my power raggis for tomorrow, Where
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: do I do I pat the Texans ahead of the Jaguars?
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: Hold on, here's my here's my point.
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  Speaker 7: In the last eleven matchups, they beat us ten times.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 7: In the last six home games, they've beaten us every time.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 7: As much as I just dislike every other team in
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 7: the division in the NFL besides the Jaguars, how do
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 7: you put us in front of him?
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: Right now?
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 6: You don't.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: So it's one Colts, two Texans, three Jacksonville four Titans.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: Are you putting Jacksonville in the cellar?
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: I to me.
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  Speaker 7: Right now, there's not a good team in the NFC South.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 7: The Colts are the best team because we all forget
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 7: this and a rookie making it first start ever, they
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 7: had a lead in the fourth quarter against US.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you could also say this, if you don't
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: go for it on fourth and five from the forties
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: five or whatever it was he did's three nothing at
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: the half against the Super Bowl champs, and you might
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: be thinking differently about that team. I mean, you could
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: do that all the time, Tony.
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  Speaker 7: But my point is saying this. This is what I
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 7: was trying to get at. This is why the NFL
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 7: is the greatest ever because you actually have no idea
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 7: zero And that's why we do these power rankings and
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 7: they're really stupid because they don't mean anything at the
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 7: end of the day.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: Nothing.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 7: And that's why I always laugh at people like upt
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 7: not in a bad way. It just makes me chuckle
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 7: because everyone does power rankings like bait.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 4: Come on, Tony, you know that.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: Oh I know it is.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 7: It's fun, but it's it's really the NFL is set
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 7: up or does not matter. It's what happens on Sunday.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 7: The a Zona Cardinals with Josh Dobbs just beat a
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 7: team a week ago we all thought was one of
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 7: the two or three best teams, three best teams in
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 7: the NFC.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 6: And destroyed them.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: It wasn't destroyed them.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 7: And by the way, it was his first win ever
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 7: as a starting quarterback.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 6: Gardner Minshew went into Baltimore and beat the Ravens.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, you can't figure this out.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: We're trying to get and he pulled the dan Orlowski.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we were trying to gauge the what was the
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: worst loss of the good teams? That Okay, jackson the
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: Cowboys loss is the worst one. They were twelve and
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: a half point favorites and got dominated. Jacksonville's is the
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: second worst, and then the Ravens is the next worst.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: But those three teams were top ten teams in the
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: Power rankings last week.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 4: Anymore maybe no, No, Hey.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 7: I guess my point is saying to the AFC South,
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 7: I mean, right now, the way I feel after losing
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 7: to twenty by that Texans with his rookie quarterback and
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 7: eight starters.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: Out eight, put us last. Put us last.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 7: The Power rankings, put us thirty second. Actually you can,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 7: I can't. I can't put below the Bears.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: It's possible.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 6: You can't put him below the Broncos.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: Put the Broncos, all right, put us thirty.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 7: I don't care, actually because it's because it goes back
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 7: to what Doug said. All the press clippings and all
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 7: the love everyone got in the off season and blah
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 7: blah blah blah blah, and everyone drank the kool aid
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 7: and everyone's you know, we're gonna win. We're gonna Pete
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 7: Prisco has it going to Super Bowl, and Tony has
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 7: going to the AFC Championship Game, and you know Peter,
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 7: it's Peter King's darling, and you know all the different things.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: Guess what that means. Nothing When you.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 7: Line up on Sunday, nobody cares go play. And until
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 7: we start playing better, Pete put us last.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 6: I said that yesterday we watching the game.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: I said, if they lose next week to Atlanta, I
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: might put it dig a hole and start throwing him
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: in with a shovel. Put its shovel ready. And somebody said,
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: in that division, you can't do it. You can never
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: do that this year. You can't every anybody in that division.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: I mean, you thought I thought this team was gonna
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: run away with that division.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 4: I did too, Pete, Yeah, hey, let's come back in
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 4: a moment. We'll keep it real.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 3: We come back, we'll also get fanatics, fan questions, we're
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 3: gonna double dip when we were taking It's a lot
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 3: to get to We've gotten through a lot already on
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 3: this program. After a Jaguars loss to the Texans, this
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 3: is Jaguars Happy Hour presented by mister Chubby's Wings.
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  Speaker 4: Welcome back.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: It's Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Mister Chubby's Wings Hour
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 3: number two of the program. JP Shadrick at the middle
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 3: of Electric Center, Hondai Studios, Pete Prisco, Tony Boselli. After
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 3: a twenty point loss to the Texans, Jaguars are now
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 3: one and two. They're headed to London this week. That
• 1:13:43
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• 1:13:54
  Speaker 4: Still waiting on Bob by the way.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 3: To deliver that wine. However, there's a reason why he
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 3: hasn't heard it.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 4: We'll get to that another time.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 3: Hey, the question this leak. Will the London London game
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 3: bring this group together?
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: I don't understand that whole philosophy.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 4: What are you talking?
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: I'm with you, Pete, I'm not sure what that means.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 3: I think the idea is that they are together for
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 3: what they'll be on the ground for ten days. There
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 3: two different resorts out in the countryside, practice on the
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 3: on the grounds, don't leave, so.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 6: You land they're going Thursday for this game.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 3: Right correct, they get they arrive Friday morning, they'll be
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 3: an afternoon Friday practice at one resort northwest of town
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 3: where a practice field is right there. The team has
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 3: stayed there before. Then they play the game at Wimbley.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: There's a walk through Saturday game at Wimbley. Sunday. After
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 3: the Sunday game they have to change hotels, so they're
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 3: going to a different resort closer to Tottenham, northeast of town,
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 3: the same idea. They'll be out there all week with
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 3: a practice field. Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, play the game at Spurs.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: So this is gonna make because they're gonna eat together
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: and hang out together. They eat together and hang out
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: together all day during the season, all day, they're in
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: the facility all day. I don't I've never understood that.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: Would they rather be there with their teammates are home
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: with their families. I mean, I just know you hear
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: coaches say that all the time. We went to for
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: a week between our games and it helped galvanize the team.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: Give me a break. I don't buy it, Go play,
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: go play.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 7: I love what Pe just throws everything out and says,
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 7: I don't buy any of it, do you?
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: I can think the scenery can help eete. I do.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 4: So here's one.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 3: I mean, if players are saying that, Pete, then are
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 3: there distractions here that they need to get away from them?
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 6: Last time?
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: I the field is the same Once you get the
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: ball kicked off, you're on the same field, right, It's
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: the same size field.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 6: I mean, Okay, everybody has distractions.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: Whether you're in London or in Jacksonville, the same distractions
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: are gonna be there.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 6: You still got issues. And aren't you together, Tony?
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: When you you played during the NFL season, you go
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: in in the morning and you leave at what six o'clock,
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: five o'clock usually, and so that time you're all together anyways.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, to me, it's less about being I mean, you're
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: probably together a little bit more on the road because
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: you're not going home. My point is more about I
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: think just sometimes change of scenery is just good for everybody,
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: you know.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, Yeah, I can't. Maybe I can't.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 7: I'm not saying there's anything magic about it. It's kind
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 7: of like like just doing something when you're in the
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 7: slim or you're gonna funk, just doing anything different.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 3: Gonna bust the slope shot.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 6: To play back to back road games on the West
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 6: Coast every year.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: Then they could just stay over and make themselves a
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: better football team.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 6: It's just Tony's laughing. He's trying not to let you're
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 6: trying not to.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: I just I just don't. I never have bought the
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: whole idea of that. I just don't.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: You don't buy the just changing.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 7: Changing your kind of changing the the location or the surroundings.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: It just like just different, like.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 6: Feel, hey, let's get on a bus. Let's get on
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 6: the bus and go to practice.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: No, I'm gonna drive my car into the game, into
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 2: the practicey from my home.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: I don't want to be I get that. I'm saying
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: to change up. If you're in a funk, you don't
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: think it helps, it does anything.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: You're three games in, you're talking about a funk. I
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: mean it's one thing. One bad game, one really bad game.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: They didn't play bad. They didn't play well against Kansas
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: City either.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah, the City is a good team, and you know
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 6: we were in it in the fourth quarter.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 7: I don't have no I didn't okay, offensively, they've not
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 7: played a good game yet.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: They didn't play good against Indian I have not.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 6: They have not offensively. They're in a funk. I would
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 6: get from what we expected from them. And they're definitely
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 6: in a funk.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 7: Because as we're having this conversation, my lovely wife is
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 7: next to me because it's getting late here and she
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 7: wants to go to bed, and she's listening, and she says,
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 7: has Pete ever been on a team in his life before?
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: Been on plenty of teams, but you know what, there's
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: an eye And tell your wife there's an eye in
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: price go.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 6: A big fat eye.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 4: Right right in the middle of it.
• 1:18:58
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• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: Yes, Tony, So, Pete, you don't think.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 7: Like there's value when you go to camp as a
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 7: team and get in just you're in camp and you're
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 7: built Like the old days when there's really camp, you
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 7: don't think that built a team and the closeness of
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 7: a team and everything else.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: Maybe when you were in high school, but when you
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: got everyday problems, every okay, because your your ninety five
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: team was so close after you spent the whole summer.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: Steven's point, b the daylights out of each other.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 7: We we developed you develop a lot of close relationships,
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 7: like mental toughness to go.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the same like thing.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: You went on on the jet. What are you talking about?
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: You were there for.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: JP. Let's not Pete is now just arguing to argue and.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 6: Is there no money?
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: Can you bond on a trip? Can you bond on
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: a trip? Yes to any question?
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, now you're being a jackass.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 6: So I was you can bond on a trip.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 4: Now he's being a jackass. I didn't know the last
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 4: seven years.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's gonna make you play any better.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 2: You're gonna make new friends maybe if that's what you want.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 2: I mean, here's the other thing. Sometimes when you go
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: out on a new trip, you go somewhere on a
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: new trip, you end up like the one year in
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: London after the game.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 6: You don't want that to.
• 1:20:26
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  Speaker 3: given the personnel on the defensive front, are there any
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 3: major changes that can be made bringing in people switching
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 3: positions or scheme or do we just hope someone can
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 3: figure it out?
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: Fegured out.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 6: They got to figure it out.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: And if they can't figure it out, I think Tony's right,
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: they gotta start blitzing more. No, take your chances.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 3: Well, they blitzed yesterday on what that third down at
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 3: the end right third and three, third and four and
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 3: didn't get close to the kid.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but Tony's right, you got it. If you can't
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 2: just status quote cannot stay. If you can't get pressure
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: against the offensive line with four backups and a rookie quarterback,
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 2: you got a problem. And by the way, he's not
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: exactly the most mobile guy. He had that run when
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: he got outside. But you have to be able to
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: pressure the quarterback. So Tony's right. I agree with him
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 2: blitz if.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 4: You have to hate him up at Bortles Nation?
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 3: Am I the only one that feels like Lawrence tries
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 3: to force it to Ridley when Ingram and Kirker opened.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 3: Look at the second half, he got them involved and
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 3: moved the ball.
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: I didn't feel like they were forcing it to Ridley yesterday.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 7: I never felt like there were any rhythm and yeah, okay, great,
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 7: they started moving the ball. Trevor said, the best thing,
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 7: who's the ball? They just couldn't finish drives. They couldn't.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: They were terrible on third down, especially in the first half.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 6: I never just the second half.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 2: They adjusted the second half a little bit, though, a
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: little bit.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 6: I'll give an example.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: You know that the post corner route, the post corner
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 2: route that Kirk caught for the touchdown in the first half,
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: he ran that same route and I said, all he's
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 2: got to do is bend that back because he ran
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: right into the safety and there was you know, they
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: were playing a single high and there was nobody there.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: He's got it, and then he did it the second time.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: But there was some talk and I don't know if
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: is this true. Doug took over play calling duties.
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 6: In the second half.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 3: No, he was asked that again today and he said
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 3: that is not accurate.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 4: He did not. Okay, that's what he said. That's what
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 4: he said.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 3: Next question at g DS Athena. I think it is
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 3: ignorant of throwing all the darts on Trevor. How do
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 3: we get our fan base to stuff all hate and
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 3: do your h do you suspect Cam Robinson? In addition
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 3: to solve some of the old line issues.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 7: Well, let's start with the first line. Welcome to being
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 7: a franchise quarterback. You're gonna get all the play, You're
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 7: gonna get all the praise and all the all the arrows.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 7: So that's just part of playing that position. I promise you.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 7: Trevor just fine.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: Was good. Now?
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 7: Do I think some of the comments on Twitter and
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 7: everywhere else are nonsense?
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: Yes, I'll say it Santa last year.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 7: I'll say it again. Trevor is a superstar. He's gonna
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 7: be a franchise quarterback. He's gonna win a super Bowl
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 7: at this franchise. Is he playing well right now?
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 6: No?
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: Great? Did Joe Burrow play well the first two weeks
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: of the Airpeat? No, it's okay. Is he a good player?
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: Great player?
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: Did he played good the first two weeks last year
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: when they were owing two?
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: Did Josh Allen play good in his first game this
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: year they were burying the guy? No, there's overreaction. It's
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: all this is Trevor stuff. Is a grade A overreaction.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: But I will say he pressing, and he's taking easy
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 2: throws in lieu of taking the tougher throw or waiting
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: for the tougher throw. And I garan to go back
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 2: to what I said earlier in the show. The offense
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 2: interior of the offensive line has sped him up and
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 2: sped the play calling up.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 3: Next question at DTWD twenty eight eighty two. Tell Pete
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 3: to stop predicting good things for this team. Every time
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 3: he does, it ends and disappointment. The curse of Pete
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 3: Frisco needs to end today. Jags fans need to unite
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 3: and perform some kind of ritual to end this curse.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: Wow, you well, I thought they would I thought they
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 2: would lose in the Super Bowl, So you want me
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 2: to I mean, come on, here's the thing.
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  Speaker 6: I picked them the win because I thought they'd have
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 6: a good team.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 2: I was wrong. I'm wrong right now, right now, I
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: can admit I'm wrong. But they can change that, just
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 2: like I was making the assumption that they made that
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: Trayvon Walker, Devin Lloyd, Andre Cisco, who's a good player,
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: by the way.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 6: Is it's gotten better?
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: Those guys would all take steps forward? They haven't.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 6: Luke Fortner another one. Is he taking a step forward?
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  Speaker 1: Tony? No?
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  Speaker 4: What kind of ritual could we do?
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 7: A little one?
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 4: A little on't Tony?
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 2: He was a little bit. He wasn't awful. I'll be
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 2: honest with you. Watching the tape yesterday, I didn't today.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: I didn't think he was awful yesterday.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: No, I mean I think he's better than he was
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: last year. Is he remarkably better? No?
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 6: No, the left guard's an issue.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: That's a problem.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 4: What kind of rich could we do to reverse this?
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 4: Pete Prisco curse?
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: Can we do?
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 4: Tony?
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: You play better? Or maybe you know what you should do?
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 2: They should go on the road and bond together.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 6: For a couple of weeks. That'll that'll fix everything.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 4: Well, we're about to find out if that will work.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure.
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  Speaker 7: I'm not I don't really believe in these silly curses.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 7: People say, like, what was the what was the when
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 7: the Red Sox could win forever?
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 4: The curse of the band and Billy Goat curse, curse
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 4: Billy Billy.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 2: Detroit liont there's a Detroit Lions curse too after they
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 2: traded Bobby Lane or whatever. Hey, here here's one Tony.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: We double locked it last week. Maybe we should not
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 2: do that.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 4: So let's go to our final question. The final question of.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 3: The day is from somebody you guys both know at
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 3: Andrew Vasselli. Is the double lock officially dead?
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  Speaker 2: No, it's not, son, No, it's not.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: Mind your own business. Kid.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: Don't you have something you should be doing? Kid, do something.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 4: He's like.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: You and you and the wife were god for the
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: for a couple of days. He's he's probably in the
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 2: middle of having a good old time.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: He does not.
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  Speaker 7: If he was in high school, he would be. But
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 7: he doesn't live at home anymore, so you can do
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 7: whatever you want.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 6: But when he was high school, you know he did wud.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: Rather than not remember that.
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  Speaker 4: So the double lock? Is it dead?
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: No?
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  Speaker 6: Heck no.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: You don't give up on bad moments.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: Don't give up on the double lock. Even though we
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: were we looked like two idiots because it wasn't even close.
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 4: That's not why you look like two idiots. By the way, that's.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 2: Worse our double lock from this week, or the fact
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: that I picked this team to go to the Super Bowl.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 3: A lot of football left feet a lot of football left.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say in the double lock because the super
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: Bowl is not a question. Out of the question.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 6: Thank God. They're in a bad division. It's all I
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 6: have to say.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 2: I mean, if they could Okay, seriously, if they lost
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 2: this week to Atlanta, we'd be sitting there saying they're done.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 6: But even if they lost to Atlanta, they're not done.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 2: Not that division.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: We were six games back with seven to play and
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: we won the division. Right.
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 6: You can't.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 2: You can't bury anybody.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 4: They haven't.
• 1:27:58
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• 1:28:02
  Speaker 3: even you, Andrew, very nice.
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  Speaker 3: the NFL in Week three and preview the double dip
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 3: of Monday Night Football. After this, it's Jaguars Happy Hour
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 3: presented by mister Chubby's wings.
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  Speaker 5: You're seeing you're seeing, you know, the drops, you're seeing
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 5: the the turnovers, you're seeing penalties, untimely penalties. You're seeing
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 5: flashes of you know, excellence and brilliance and then then
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 5: a setback. And it's just a consistency that we need,
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 5: he needs to improve and it's not there right now.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 5: You know, We've got to continue to work and continue
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 5: to get better and you know, figure figure some things out.
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  Speaker 3: Doug Peterson after yesterday's lost to the Houston Texans, Welcome back.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 3: It's Jaguars Happy Hour presented by mister Chubby's Wings. JP
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 3: Shaddrick from Hyundai Studios inside the Miller Electric Center. On
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 3: the couch today, Pete Prisco, Tony Bisselli along with us
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 3: as always and.
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  Speaker 6: Laid down on the couch and done half the show.
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  Speaker 2: Laying down, Jp.
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  Speaker 4: You know I might not get back up. You never know.
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  Speaker 3: Let's go around the National Football League and some of
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 3: the scores from yesterday. The Lions over the Falcons twenty
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 3: six was the final score. We mentioned Hutchinson, a couple
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 3: of sacks, two passes, defense, a forced fumble, a fumble recovery,
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 3: all over the place.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 4: The Lions, for real, peat.
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 2: Well, they lost at home to Seattle last week, So
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 2: who the hell knows? I mean, nobody has any idea
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 2: in this league. You just don't. But yeah, I mean
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 2: that's a good football team, and I think they got
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 2: a great offensive coordinator. And they got one heck of
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 2: a quarterback coach too, because he's made Jerrick Off into
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 2: a pretty good player.
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 4: Mark Burnell, Yeah I've heard of him. Yeah.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 3: Packers over the Saints eighteen to seventeen the final score,
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 3: and that one the boy the Miami Dolphins seventy to twenty,
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 3: and they gave up the chance to go for the
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 3: regular season record for scoring in a game by a
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 3: single team.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 4: The record was seventy two.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 3: The all time NFL record including playoffs is seventy three.
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 4: They could have tied that with a field goal. They
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 4: took a name.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but there's some people around the league too, that
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: kind of think that they might have ran it up
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 2: a little bit.
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 3: Anyways, last touchdown, Pete, like they're running over left guard.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 4: What are they supposed to do? Like taking knee there?
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 6: It was a little tach. That would have been tacky
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 6: to kick the field.
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 4: Goal though, come on, I agree with that.
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 6: That would have been Yeah, and Denver is a disaster.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 6: He kept Russell Wilson in the game. What are you doing?
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 2: I mean it was bad. Miami's Miami's so good because
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 2: they're so fat, you know, Tony, we talked about speed.
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 2: They're so fast, it's amazing. It makes you defend them differently.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 2: You got to do so many different things. And while
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 2: they got the rookie running back who can.
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 3: Fly and wasn't even in the game, Pete, No, they
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 3: still killed him.
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 2: But we'll no more about them. This week they played
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 2: Buffalo at Buffalo and Buffalo's owned them in recent years.
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 6: And here's the other thing. Buffalo had nine sacks on.
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 3: Sunday thirty seven to three win over the commanders for
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 3: the Bills were.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: Getting to play them in two weeks in nine sacks
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 2: Tony nine and nobody had more than one and a half.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 3: Wow, would you rather play them in London or in
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 3: Orchard Park, London, London, London.
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 6: But here's the other thing.
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 2: The switch from Leslie Fraser to Sean McDermott goes back
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: to what we were saying Tony. They're much more aggressive
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 2: now than they were, and you know, maybe Jacksonville needs
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 2: to get a little that.
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 4: Going to.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 3: Chargers over the Vikings twenty eight to twenty four, the
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 3: Patriots speak the Jets fifteen to ten, Seahawks over the Panthers.
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 6: One quick note on the on the Vikings Chargers game. Yep,
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 6: I don't know if you.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 2: Guys saw it, but the game was not high scoring,
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 2: but a lot of offense. The Chargers had a fourth
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 2: and one from their own twenty four with a minute
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 2: fifty one in.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 6: The game, and he went forth, why.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 2: It didn't make it?
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 3: He didn't make it.
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 2: Then they had twenty four yards and they couldn't get
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 2: a touchdown because he threw. The Vikings rushed at the
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 2: end of it and they had time. Then he threw
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 2: a pass and it hit off the receiver's hands and
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 2: popped in the air and they picked him off in
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 2: the end zone.
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 6: Otherwise he loses the game. Can you imagine Brandon Stally
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 6: put his job on the line.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 2: Basically at oh and three, he would have been ohing
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 2: three to go for it from his own twenty four
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 2: with a minute fifty one left in the game, and
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 2: they needed a touchdown to win to win the game.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: That's asinine who praised that moron.
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 2: It's as bad as Josh McDaniels kicking a field goal
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 2: down eight on fourth and four from the eight yard
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 2: line last night over with a little over two minutes left.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 3: So I hear that, Yeah, I saw that last night.
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 3: He had three timeouts and the two minute warning left right.
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 6: And fourth and four from the fourth and four from
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 6: the eight.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 2: You need eight points.
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 6: What do you do when the field goal doesn't do
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 6: you any good?
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 4: You gotta stop him twice? Yeah? Right? Rough?
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 3: When Steelers won that game twenty three eighteen, Cardinals over
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 3: the Cowboys twenty eight to sixteen, what happened in Dallas?
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 6: They gave up two hundred yards rushing.
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 2: Dak Prescott threw an interception late in that game when
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 2: they were getting back into it in the end zone.
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 7: Is that something other teams can expose the Cowboys their
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 7: run defense.
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 2: Yes, they're fast, but remember they drafted that kid, Mazzie
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 2: Smith to make the run defense better, and they haven't.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 6: I think you can expose them.
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 2: They're not big.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: Well, he's not a big man.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 2: They're they're And Parsons moves around all over the place
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 2: and he's not big either.
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 3: And finally, the Chiefs over the Bears forty one ten
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 3: the final score. The Chiefs look to be back on track,
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 3: not they That.
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 2: Wasn't the news from that The news from that game
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 2: isn't the final score. Taylor Swift was at the game
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 2: to watch to see Travis Kelce.
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 3: I could tell every single other shot besides football was
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 3: her in the box.
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think Kelsey's just trying to use it for Clyde.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 2: Do you think they're really dating? I don't or do
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 2: I care?
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: How about this? I don't care?
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 4: Right, you don't care, Pete. You're the one that brought
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 4: it up.
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 6: So apparently think they would show them all. They showed
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 6: her all day the whole game.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 1: I literally don't care.
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 2: I don't either.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 4: Apparently you do, Pete. You brought it up Monday Night football.
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 3: It's a double dip two for the price of one
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 3: for the second week in a row. First at seven
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 3: fifteen Eastern I don't know what time that is in Czechoslovakia.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 3: It's a battle of two and oh teams in the NFC.
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts in the Philadelphia Eagles visit Baker Mayfield in
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 3: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Then at eight fifteen, two teams
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 3: trying to figure it out. Stafford and the Rams and
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 3: the oh and two Bengals CAF watch for Joe Burrow,
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 3: reportedly expected to give it a go to night. Who
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 3: you got on Monday night football?
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: I got the Eagles in the Bengals.
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 2: I got the Eagles, but very very close, and I
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 2: got the Bengals.
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 6: Look, Joe Burrow and the Bengals are desperate. He has
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 6: to play in the game. They go to oh and three.
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 2: They're basically done in that division.
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 4: Have it? The picts are in? I guess it's the
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 4: Czech Republic right, It's not even And.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 6: By the way, I don't think.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 2: I don't think our our buddy in the Czech Republic's
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 2: gonna make it to those games.
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 1: I will not be watching Monday night football to night.
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 6: No is it past? It's past dinner time already in
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 6: the Czech Republic.
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 2: Did you eat it ready?
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 4: In the checker.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 1: It's midnight, Pete.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 2: So what do you go eat when you go to
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 2: go out to dinner in the Czech Republic?
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 4: Oh?
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 1: Got a great dinner night? Had some Uh?
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 4: I had?
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 1: What I have? I had a lamb no, not lamb,
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 1: veal tongue, veal tongue. Oh, it was outstanding.
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 4: What does it taste like?
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: Like really tender veal? I know, like veal.
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 7: I had some dover soul, which is a nice white fish.
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 4: It was good, the old Czech surfing turf.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: Well, the the veal tongue was a appetizer.
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 4: Veal tongue and soul.
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 2: It's like, let me look at this menu and I'll
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 2: order the veal tongue.
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: They recommend it.
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 6: You got a burger anywhere in this place?
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 1: Come on, Pete, I'm in that. So is that the
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: god here? So?
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 7: I was at the hotel Restaurummers in a nice, great hotel,
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 7: and I asked the waiter, like, what do you recommend?
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 7: And he said the deal tongue for the appetize.
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: I'm like, come in.
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 6: What do you do with the Czech Republic?
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 2: Go look for Yarramar Yager's house or something.
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: What do you do?
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 3: I know what's gonna happen in London though. We've got
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 3: the Jags Country Concert Thursday night. Tony and I will
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 3: be there at Wimbley Arena.
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 4: Pete will talk to you on Monday.
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 2: From the Pavilion Ponding Experience in London.
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 3: Guys Frisco, Tony Maselli and thanks to our entire crew.
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 4: I'm JP Shadwick. Thanks to you for listening.
• 1:37:54
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• 1:37:57
  Speaker 4: P Is, Kate Waski all the rest. Thanks for listening.
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 4: It's Jaguars Happy Hour. Get you next time.
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 6: Yeah m hm