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362: The Hyrox Poop Scandal - A Win is a Win · Reality TV Cringe

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  Speaker 1: thing that happened recently at a sports competition put on
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  Speaker 1: Did you hype your girls up? I didn't see it.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So back to the story at hand. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I caught stinky wind of it probably. We're filming this
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  Speaker 1: on a Thursday. So I caught stinky wind of this
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  Speaker 1: like at the tail end of last weekend. I think
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  Speaker 1: the competition, it was held in Beijing, China, right? I
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  Speaker 1: think it was last weekend.
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  Speaker 2: It was like at the beginning. I think it was
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  Speaker 2: like the 14th or something like that or the 12th.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. Okay. It happened recently.
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  Speaker 1: It was very recent.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: And all of a sudden my timeline on Instagram, because
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  Speaker 1: I'm not on TikTok, was just Person after person after
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  Speaker 1: person showing these graphic images, which we will also show
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  Speaker 1: to you, but I will blur them out.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Because I've got class.
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  Speaker 2: And it's gross.
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  Speaker 1: It's so gross. But just person after person discussing one
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  Speaker 1: of the elite competitors at this competition who was also
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  Speaker 1: being sponsored by Puma. So like a big sponsorship. And
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  Speaker 1: was Puma also sponsoring the event?
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  Speaker 2: No, I think they were just sponsoring this athlete.
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  Speaker 1: Just the athlete.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So she's being sponsored by... puma she is an elite
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  Speaker 1: athlete and she's competing in this event and all i
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  Speaker 1: saw on my timeline were pictures of her competing with
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  Speaker 1: literal fecal matter shit.
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  Speaker 2: Dookie the doodoo doodoo all.
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  Speaker 1: Up and down her legs in the front in the
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  Speaker 1: back the.
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  Speaker 2: Back of her arms in her pussy in her crack.
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  Speaker 1: Honey, it was everywhere. And it wasn't just on her body.
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  Speaker 1: Like that's bad enough. Okay. I'm already going astral. I'm
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  Speaker 1: already needing to be disassociated. But it was also like
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  Speaker 1: on the rowing machines because even though she defecated all
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  Speaker 1: over herself, she continued to participate.
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  Speaker 2: Finish the competition.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. She finished it.
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  Speaker 2: She won. She finished it. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But like she had to get, this is a closed competition.
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  Speaker 1: So it's not like a marathon where you're running 26
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  Speaker 1: miles in the outdoors or you're doing some sort of
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  Speaker 1: mountain trek and you're outdoors and you can go shit
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  Speaker 1: in the woods or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: No, this is an indoor competition that's shared with hundreds
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  Speaker 2: of athletes and also hundreds of staff members that are
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  Speaker 2: in control of the competition. All of the equipment is
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  Speaker 2: shared there. It's not just throwing machines. It's like kettlebells.
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  Speaker 2: It's sandbags. They also have to do burpee exercises on
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  Speaker 2: a carpeted floor in which she had her shit on
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  Speaker 2: the floor.
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  Speaker 1: Do you see where we're going?
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  Speaker 2: Going where she's like got her face down in it
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  Speaker 2: and then other people have to do that and put their.
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  Speaker 1: Because she's again she's an elite athlete so she's at
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  Speaker 1: the front of the pack most people are behind her
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  Speaker 1: correct they're bringing up the rear no pun intended there's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of that after she does the
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  Speaker 1: rowing machine link there's gonna be countless others who have
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  Speaker 1: to get on that same rowing machine and sit in
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  Speaker 1: her shit Which this is the wild part. And I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to let Beatrice describe what has happened. But like this,
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  Speaker 1: this was the entire controversy.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So on my timeline. So let me just describe my
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  Speaker 1: experience with this.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: As I'm at home in bed with my velvet covers
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  Speaker 1: over me, like just going through Instagram, like what the
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  Speaker 1: fuck is all this about? Because there were so many
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  Speaker 1: people who had been in Beijing and competed in the
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  Speaker 1: very same event who were like, what the fuck? Because
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  Speaker 1: with high rocks, apparently they're very, very strict. Again, it
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  Speaker 1: is a closed competition. So like if you spit... Or
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  Speaker 1: if you like clear your nose out, snot rocket... You
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  Speaker 1: get a penalty, like a two minute penalty. Or you'll
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  Speaker 1: get disqualified. They do not put up with any of
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  Speaker 1: that nonsense. And so these competitors who were used to
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  Speaker 1: these very strident rules were like, okay, we can't spit...
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  Speaker 1: or like have a snot rub. This woman can like
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  Speaker 1: literally shit all over herself and all of the equipment.
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  Speaker 1: And she continues to be able to participate. So people
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  Speaker 1: were going hog wild. And that's where I picked up
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  Speaker 1: on it. And so let me just throw it over
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  Speaker 1: to Beatrice. She'll start from the beginning. She'll bring you
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  Speaker 1: all up to speed and we'll get there together.
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  Speaker 2: So the athlete in question is named Joanna Wettrick. She's
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  Speaker 2: an Australian competitive athlete and She, for her, to her credit,
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  Speaker 2: she's very skilled at what she does. She trains really,
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  Speaker 2: really hard. And high rocks as a competition is not
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  Speaker 2: necessarily like the Olympics or anything like that, but it
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  Speaker 2: is like a high intensity.
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  Speaker 1: It's like CrossFit, isn't it? Kind of like it's more
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  Speaker 1: of an elevated CrossFit.
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  Speaker 2: It's more of like a high intensity workout type of
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  Speaker 2: a thing. So it's not necessarily CrossFit, but you are
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  Speaker 2: doing some kind of CrossFit exercises, but you're doing like
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  Speaker 2: weight exercises as well. And the whole point of it
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  Speaker 2: is to like do it In a very fast, short timeframe,
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  Speaker 2: Joanna Redtrick actually finished with world records. Um, especially for
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  Speaker 2: the female division, she finished in just under an hour
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  Speaker 2: and you have to do like an eight kilometer run.
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  Speaker 2: And then you have to do several, I think like
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  Speaker 2: eight to 10, um, additional high intensity exercises. One of
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  Speaker 2: them are, is the rowing machine. Some are the burpees,
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  Speaker 2: some are weightlifting, some are running with sandbags on your shoulders.
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  Speaker 2: So like it is a high intensity competition, but it's
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  Speaker 2: not something like the Olympics or in a marathon or
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  Speaker 2: anything like that. It's also unique because it is completely indoors.
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  Speaker 2: All of the athletes are sharing the equipment. A lot
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  Speaker 2: of professional athletes have commented after this incident saying that
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  Speaker 2: they wouldn't have done a high rocks competition in general
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  Speaker 2: because it's kind of grody because you are touching a
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  Speaker 2: bunch of sweaty equipment that everybody else is using and
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  Speaker 2: It's not like it's cleaned in between each athlete.
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  Speaker 1: So it's not cleaned in between.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's not. Okay. Even in general, like before the
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  Speaker 2: shit gate happened, like they don't clean in between. So
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  Speaker 2: it's not necessarily a hygienic course or anything like that.
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  Speaker 2: It's just a high intensity workout thing, competition. So Joanna Wittrich,
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  Speaker 2: high intensity athlete, whatever. She goes, starts this competition about
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  Speaker 2: halfway through. She has bowel incontinence. She suffers bowel incontinence
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  Speaker 2: and it's like pretty severe. She literally shits herself halfway through.
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  Speaker 2: And it's not just like a little bit of dookie
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  Speaker 2: in her pants. It's dookie in her pants, in her
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  Speaker 2: coochie that is literally sliding down her legs all the
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  Speaker 2: way down to the floor. She ends up, doing the
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  Speaker 2: rest of the exercises, somehow gets shit on her arms
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  Speaker 2: and stuff in between that and continues and finishes the race.
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  Speaker 1: But wait, because what I had read on more than
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  Speaker 1: one occasion is that she didn't just shit once. She
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  Speaker 1: shit the first time. but she continued to have bowel
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  Speaker 1: incontinence throughout the rest of her performance.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that is, yeah. She lost control of her bowels.
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  Speaker 1: And continued to do so. So it's like one thing
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  Speaker 1: to like, shit, oh my God, my bad. Let me
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  Speaker 1: go clean myself up. But it's another thing to continue
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  Speaker 1: and then continue also to shit. So there's fresh shit
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  Speaker 1: coming out at all times.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that's incontinence. It's like she literally lost control
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  Speaker 2: of it.
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  Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm saying though?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just trying to make the distinction.
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  Speaker 2: She lost control of her bowels. Gross. And continued to
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  Speaker 2: lose control of her bowels and continued to push through
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  Speaker 2: to finish the competition. And so where the controversy arises.
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  Speaker 1: She won the competition.
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  Speaker 2: Is that she finished knowing that she had shat herself everywhere.
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  Speaker 2: And this is a thing that does happen to high
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  Speaker 2: performance athletes. It's not necessarily an abnormal thing that happens.
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  Speaker 2: It can't happen when your body goes through intense physical stress.
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  Speaker 2: There's nothing to necessarily be ashamed of with that, but
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  Speaker 2: she continued to do this competition, knowing that she was
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  Speaker 2: going to share all of this equipment with all of
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  Speaker 2: the rest of the athletes. And she did so as
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  Speaker 2: kind of a way to like push through a very unfortunate, uh,
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  Speaker 2: incident she had trained really hard for this competition she
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  Speaker 2: wanted to finish it out as did everyone else and
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  Speaker 2: as did everybody else and after she finished it she
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  Speaker 2: posted an instagram story that she since deleted where she
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  Speaker 2: said a win is a win but for real though
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  Speaker 2: like i'm good and i'll talk to y'all later yolo
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  Speaker 2: she didn't apologize she didn't make a statement about it
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  Speaker 2: or anything she posted this instagram story while she was
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  Speaker 2: in a hospital bed So obviously she was getting checked
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  Speaker 2: out because.
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  Speaker 1: Probably IV fluids.
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  Speaker 2: And stuff like that. Yeah, she was having incontinence through
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  Speaker 2: this competition. But she received massive backlash for this because
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  Speaker 2: she didn't have any kind of regard for any of
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  Speaker 2: the other athletes. She didn't apologize for shitting everywhere and
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  Speaker 2: getting shit on the floor and on all of the
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  Speaker 2: equipment that everybody else had to share.
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  Speaker 1: And then get.
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  Speaker 2: shit upon themselves and then get shit upon themselves and
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  Speaker 2: the high rocks competition organizers didn't bother to stop her
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  Speaker 2: while noticing that she was shitting herself and that is
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  Speaker 2: where the real controversy lies because high rocks prior to
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  Speaker 2: this incident like you had mentioned had pretty strict guidelines
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  Speaker 2: about hygiene but their guidelines specifically did not outline the
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  Speaker 2: Hygiene past spitting or like snot coming out of your nose.
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  Speaker 2: They didn't have any guidelines or bio contamination guidelines about
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  Speaker 2: fecal matter about blood or urine or anything like that.
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  Speaker 2: There've actually been reports after this incident of other athletes
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  Speaker 2: saying that it was a known thing at these high
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  Speaker 2: rocks competitions that people would literally pee and leak urine
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  Speaker 2: on the equipment and on the ground and everything. And
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  Speaker 2: nobody said anything about it. So like, this was obviously
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  Speaker 2: like a known issue. High rocks never, um, penalized any
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  Speaker 2: of these other previous athletes for peeing or anything like that,
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  Speaker 2: but they would penalize you. If you spit on the
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  Speaker 2: course or if you had snot coming out of your nose,
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  Speaker 2: they would penalize you with not only a time deduction, um,
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  Speaker 2: with your race, but also with a possible disqualification. If
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  Speaker 2: they thought that your snot was too hygienic, too unhygienic,
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  Speaker 2: but with Joanna Wettrick, they let her finish the course.
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  Speaker 2: They let her finish the race. And they didn't clean
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  Speaker 2: in between. There are reports saying that some of the
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  Speaker 2: competition organizers were cleaning the equipment in between. But then
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  Speaker 2: a lot of athletes who were at that competition allegedly
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  Speaker 2: said that there was no cleaning protocols in between. And
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  Speaker 2: the race was allowed to continue on. Despite this very
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  Speaker 2: disgusting biohazard of literal shit spreading everywhere around all of
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  Speaker 2: these other athletes. And so... After Joanna posted her Instagram
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  Speaker 2: story saying a win is a win, she wasn't apologizing,
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  Speaker 2: people obviously came for her and they were like, what
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  Speaker 2: the fuck, you selfish ass. Oh, what are you doing?
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  Speaker 2: You literally could have gotten so many people sick because
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  Speaker 2: you were so selfish and didn't care about anybody else
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  Speaker 2: but yourself because all you wanted to do was win
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  Speaker 2: even though you had shit running down your legs.
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  Speaker 1: Right, but in her defense... This is a 22-year-old girl.
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  Speaker 2: 24, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: She's young.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Her brain is not fully formed.
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  Speaker 2: Sure.
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  Speaker 1: And also when you're competing athletically, you get into sort
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  Speaker 1: of this zone, this gamma state zone where you're just
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  Speaker 1: really honed in on what you're doing.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: And wanting to finish. And so I'm sure that contributed
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  Speaker 1: to her not really thinking about everybody else in the
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  Speaker 1: competition and what she was doing. Personally, though, I can't believe...
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  Speaker 1: that she didn't have any thoughts about what she was doing. She,
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  Speaker 1: at some point, right, she had to make a choice. Yeah. Like, hmm,
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  Speaker 1: I shit my pants. Let me just go to the bathroom.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to lose time, but I can clean myself
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  Speaker 1: up and I can come back to the competition and
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  Speaker 1: maybe I'm not going to win or whatever, but like
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  Speaker 1: I can at least clean myself up and not expose
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  Speaker 1: other people to biohazards. She had to make a choice
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  Speaker 1: at some point to continue on and complete this race
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  Speaker 1: with shit smearing all over herself and other people because
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  Speaker 1: they came into contact with the equipment. So that's a choice.
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  Speaker 1: That's a bad choice. Is it a choice that a
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  Speaker 1: younger person who's just got their eye on the prize
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  Speaker 1: might make?
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: I do think we should give her a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of grace as somebody like this is her entire life
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  Speaker 1: and identity is being an elite athlete. That's, this is
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  Speaker 1: what she does. And I'm sure she was in the
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  Speaker 1: zone and I'm sure she's just like, no, I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to be brave. I'm just going to do it anyway.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just going to go for it. Yeah. It's shitty.
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  Speaker 1: but I'm going to go for it. This is what
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  Speaker 1: athletes do. I can see a kid thinking thoughts like
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  Speaker 1: that and not really zooming out and thinking about everybody
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  Speaker 1: else in their experience. So I'm just saying that there's
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  Speaker 1: a difference between her response and the response that High
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  Speaker 1: Rocks ultimately comes out with.
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  Speaker 2: That's the thing. In my opinion, the real responsibility falls
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  Speaker 2: on High Rocks and all of the competition organizers, because
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  Speaker 2: what do you mean? you saw this lady shit all
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  Speaker 2: over herself and you didn't bother to stop her. You
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  Speaker 2: didn't bother to pull her from the competition. Like that
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  Speaker 2: makes no fucking sense to me. It's the responsibility of
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  Speaker 2: the competition organizers to have all of the safety and
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  Speaker 2: health and wellness concerns of all the other athletes in
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  Speaker 2: their forefront. They didn't give a shit, literally. Like they
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  Speaker 2: just took photos of her, multiple photos of her competing
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  Speaker 2: the competition with shit all over her and let her
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  Speaker 2: finish and let her win. That's crazy to me. So
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  Speaker 2: then after this, controversy went viral like literally everybody saw
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  Speaker 2: the photos and they were like what are you kidding
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  Speaker 2: me high rocks released a statement that they have since
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  Speaker 2: deleted and you'll see why after i read this statement
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  Speaker 2: so the statement reads to our community as our sport
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  Speaker 2: continues to evolve we are encountering new and increasingly complex
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  Speaker 2: situations that challenge us and where additional clarity is needed
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  Speaker 2: this happened this weekend in china We ask our athletes
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  Speaker 2: to push themselves to the highest levels. At times they
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  Speaker 2: will go beyond what even we thought was possible. That courage, resilience,
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  Speaker 2: and refusal to give in are precisely what makes elite
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  Speaker 2: athletes so extraordinary. Our role is to give them the
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  Speaker 2: right framework and the right boundaries within which they can compete, perform,
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  Speaker 2: and express themselves at their very best. Hyrox has clear
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  Speaker 2: biocontaminant and medical procedures in place. In this instance, an
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  Speaker 2: unforeseen situation arose in which protocols designed for elite competition
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: and mass participation became blurred, creating ambiguity in how they
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: were applied and understood. We recognize that this can understandably
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: lead to frustration, questions, and strong views within our community.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: Those concerns are legitimate, and as organizers, we must be
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: prepared to hear them, examine what happened, and take responsibility
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: for continuing to improve. And we will. But there is
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: an important line. Frustration should never be directed towards the
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: athlete themselves. They are the people who put themselves on
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: the line, compete at the highest level, and make competition
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: what it is. There is no place in our community
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: for threats of violence or encouragement to harm an athlete.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: As this has happened this weekend, we want to be
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: very clear and direct. Any person identified as engaging in
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: this behavior, whether through comments, direct messages on social media,
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: will be permanently banned from all High Rocks events. We
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: are currently reviewing and identifying those responsible, and action will
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: be taken. So obviously this statement got a lot of
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: backlash as well. That's why High Rocks has since deleted
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: it because there was no apology. There was no acknowledgement
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: for all of the other people that had to literally
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: work out with Joanna's shit on their hands and in
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: their vicinity. And High Rocks also lied about saying that
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: they had clear biocontaminant protocols in place because they didn't.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: They literally had to change their rules and regulations after
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: this incident to include fecal matter and blood and stuff
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: like that. And what they had said in their verbiage
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: was if any of this material becomes evident on the course,
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: then the competition organizers may be able to remove the
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: athlete or remove or stop the competition. So they didn't
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: even really put in there like the competition needs to
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: be stopped so that way the equipment can be cleaned
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: or they need to stop for the health and welfare
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: of all the rest of the athletes. Like High Rocks
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: very obviously doesn't care about the athletes that are competing
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: because if they did, they would stop that shit, literally.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: No pun intended. And more to... The point is the
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: fact that they then kind of went on this defense
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: of the athlete. Like, for those of you who are
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: saying bad things about her, for those of you who
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: are making threats to her or whatever, like, I haven't
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: seen anybody do that. Oh, I have. Oh, you have?
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: Making direct threats to her? Oh, yeah.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, people were pissed at Joanna Westrick. Making threats, though?
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, gosh, I haven't seen anything. Personally, I haven't. But, like,
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't put it past social media at all. Like,
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: I'm not doubting that, but they seemed to be more
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: concerned in that statement about what people were saying about
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: this girl and how they were treating this girl as
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: opposed to like what they actually did really wrong. And
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: around this time too, we had a lot of photographs
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: that were coming out from not just, I don't know,
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: I don't know that High Rocks was releasing pictures of
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: this girl with crap all over herself, but other participants
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: were people who were actually there in the building. And
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: there was a picture that I, I, zoomed in on.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: which was of the the staff picking up the mats
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: where they were doing the burpees cleaning up after her
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: but like they didn't even have gloves on and a
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: lot of people said that this was unpaid staff like
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: these people who were there monitor and to make sure
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: that everything was happening. These people are unpaid and they're
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: out there without gloves handling these mats and this equipment,
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: I would imagine, that has defecation on it. And this
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: is the professionalism of your organization and you don't have
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: anything to say about that. You want to kind of
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: lead with, yeah, but don't talk bad about Joanna and
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: don't do anything. Don't be aggressive to Joanna and let
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: it not be unsaid. You shouldn't be making threats, death
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: threats or being cruel and mean to people online. Like that's,
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: that's not appropriate. But at the same time, there is
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: a reason why there is a lot of anger and
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of reaction from the community and especially
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: outside of the community. I, I, I don't do high rocks. No.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm kind of an athlete. I walk, I
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: walk on the street every day.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: Oh my God. She's a competitive athlete.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: Starting strength training. But like, I, I'm not, I'm not
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: part of this whole zeitgeist, but at the same time
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: I can acknowledge when something was mishandled or really badly,
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: not just the competition, but your response afterward sucked. And
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: then in the comments of that first post, I was there. Yep.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: People were going ham.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: People were going off. And so then High Rocks deleted
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: that statement because it wasn't a good statement, really. And
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: then they made a second one saying, this actually came
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: from the co-founder of High Rocks named Moritz Fursti. I
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know how to pronounce his name,
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: but he said, quote, I need to address all of
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: you directly concerning the recent events in China. I apologize
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: to all that were directly or indirectly affected, as well
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: as to everyone who felt like we did not handle
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: the situation like we should have. High Rocks made a
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: mistake by not reacting immediately during the race. In the end,
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: it is my job to foresee these potential incidences. And
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: I did not, of course, we started improving event processes,
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: plus making rule book changes immediately. As of this moment,
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: there are new rules and procedures in place to prevent
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: situations like this from happening again. We learn and try
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: to get better every day. Signed, Mo.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: We listen and we do not judge. We listen and
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: we do not judge. That's what it feels like.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: And it's like, you know, I understand. It's a little
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: bit better. I understand that they didn't obviously predict for
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: a situation like this to happen. This is definitely the
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: first time. an incident like this has happened in an
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: indoor closed competitive athletic race. I mean, they're really like,
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: this has happened with athletes who have been competing in
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: multi-mile long marathons, you know, where there's long stretches in
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: between the athletes. So there isn't like a risk of contamination.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: Like marathon runners have totally shit themselves in the middle of.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: A marathon before. I wanted to poop on my walk.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Have you shit yourself?
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: I haven't.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: No, but I get it.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Can relate.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Like it does happen. There's even been incidences in UFC
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: and boxing fights. Like your daughter's a really big UFC fan.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: And so when this came out, she was totally pulling
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: out all the stops with UFC. There have been UFC
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: fighters who have shit themselves in the middle of fights.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: And they've been allowed to compete, you know, and continue
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: the fights and stuff like that.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: With shit on themselves?
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: But the difference is with UFC... is that they test
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: their fighters for any kind of bloodborne pathogens or diseases
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: that can be transmitted through blood or fecal matter and
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: stuff like that. So they heavily regulate. Because it's a
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: contact sport. It's a contact sport. And of course, in UFC,
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: there's always blood if it's a good fight. And you're
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: mixing that blood with other fighters. And so they have
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: to test their fighters for safety. And they do also
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: call fights when there's too much blood or people have
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: injured themselves too much. And If there was a situation
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: where a Joanna Wettrick kind of a fighter had massive diarrhea.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: Shit all over the octagon.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: I'm shitting all over the octagon.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Shitting. And like had diarrhea on her arms and stuff,
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: they would totally call that fight and they would clean
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: the octagon and they would fix that. So there's differences
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: in how other like competition organizations handle their shit, literally.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: High Rocks, Failed completely. They not only failed Joanna, but
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: they failed all of the other athletes that had to
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: be in contact with Joanna's diarrhea. And that's the issue
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: here that I think there's a lot of people that
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: are making like reels and stuff like really coming for
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: Joanna and talking about how horrible of a person she
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: is for not stopping the race. And like, we can
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: have a conversation about how Yeah, maybe you made the
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: wrong choice by finishing that out and you didn't have
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: any regard for the other athletes. But like you had said,
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: she's a competitive athlete. Athletes in that kind of a
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: mindset are inherently selfish a little bit because they're thinking
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: about winning and they don't give a shit about anybody else.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: They want to win. They will do whatever they can
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: to win. People need to be coming for High Rocks.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: So let me ask you a question. What would have
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: been the appropriate response from High Rocks out.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: Of the gate? After they let her finish the race?
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: I would have said, yeah, we're sorry to all of
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: the athletes that had to compete with Joanna's shit. We're
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: going to refund all of your High Rocks fees that
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: you paid to get into this competition. We're also going
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: to pay for any of your medical care if any
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: of you guys have like, E. coli infections after this
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: or staph infections. C.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: Diff. C.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: Diff. C.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Bo.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: Like, if you have any fucking diseases after this, we'll
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: pay for your medical care. Like, that would have been
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: more of an appropriate response and more of a considerate
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: response to the rest of the people that had to
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: compete with this.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: Furthermore, I would say they should have disqualified her or
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: they should have taken her title away because the fact
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: of the matter is the people that were bringing up
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: the rear... several of those people actually DQ'd themselves because
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: the stench was so foul. I mean, shit smells on
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: a good day, but for whatever reason, Joanna's shit really
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: did stink and it stunk up the whole place and
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: people couldn't actually finish. And that's not fair. There could
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: have been somebody back there who was like nauseous and
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: vomiting who could not compete because you shit yourself and
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: you allowed yourself to smear it everywhere and you should
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: be DQ'd for that. And some people say she should
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: be banned for that. I don't agree. I don't feel
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: like this is a bannable offense, but she shouldn't get
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: the title to me. What do you think?
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: I don't think she should have been allowed to continue
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: the race, period. I think the second that they saw
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: shit running down her legs, she should have been taken out.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: And this is something that happens in the UFC. I
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: hate to bring it back to that, but it's just
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: the reference that I have in my mind. If somebody...
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: has like a medical issue in the UFC they will
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: disqualify and they will end the fight and they won't
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: let the fighters continue if somebody looks like they are
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: having a medical issue and like if you look at
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: this from an objective lens of her having such severe
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: bowel incontinence That's a medical issue. She should have been
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: pulled from the race and then she should have been
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: taken over to the medical tent.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: And so she never would have won in the first place.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: And that's a really good metric to me. Like what
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: should you have done in the moment? Well, we should
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: have pulled her.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: Immediately.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: And so if you should have pulled her, then you
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: should consider her pulled now at that point and DQ
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: her or take away the title.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: For like medical reasons. And if you would read through
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: the thousands upon thousands of comments underneath both of these
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: posts at the time, people were like, okay, but what
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: about the title? What about DQing her? What about banning her? Like,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: what about all the other people who weren't even able
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: to finish because she did this?
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: And they seemed very tone deaf in the moment when
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: dealing with that criticism. They didn't even deal with it
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: at all.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: No, they didn't deal with it whatsoever. And like, they
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: had a bunch of photographers at the competition that I
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: could only presume were hired by High Rocks that were
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: taking photos of this happening. So you knew it was happening.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: It's not like She had a little bit of dookie
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: in her butt. Nobody saw it.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: She was prairie dogging.
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: It was very obvious. And I've seen reports that they
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: had to not only just clean the equipment that she used,
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: but they had to throw out the rowing machine. that
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: she used because it had shit like soiled into the rowing.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Seat like the gears i'm sure yeah all of it
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: would be smeared they had to throw.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: It out you know what i mean like it wasn't
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: like just a little bit on the on the weights.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: And stuff allowed people to sit down on that same
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: seat and use that machine after she used it it
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: doesn't even matter if you like wiped it down or
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: whatever no there is still fecal matter yeah within the
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: gears within the handles within everything.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: And that's what I don't understand about this whole situation.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: It's like, why didn't any of the High Rocks competition
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: organizers do anything about this? Why didn't they clean the
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: equipment in between? They didn't even do that, you guys.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: They didn't even clean the equipment in between. They let
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: other people. sit on her shitty bum bum rowing seat.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: I just don't understand. I don't.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: It just seems like common sense to me. And what
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: it says to me at the end of the day
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: is this is an unprofessional organization. And based on your
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: first two PR statements, which were very ill advised, like
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: you guys ain't shit. I wouldn't trust you to conduct
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: another event or whatever. I wouldn't pay money to attend.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: I just wouldn't be a part of Anything that you do.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: And I have seen a few affiliated gyms, High Rocks gyms,
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: come out and say, yeah, no, we don't want to
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: be a part of whatever it is that you think
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: you're doing because the way that you've handled it is terrible.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: What you did in the moment was terrible and we
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: don't agree. And so there's a lot of like affiliates,
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: professional affiliates that are like, like what the hell? We
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: do not want to be aligned with that.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: There was another statement that I think came out by
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: High Rocks and I couldn't find like a screenshot of it,
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: but it said something to the effect of, you know,
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: we didn't have the rules in place. and so that's
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: why it was pretty ambiguous because the organizers like please
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: don't fault them they didn't know what to do in
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: this unforeseen situation and i'm just like again common fucking
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: sense it's not like she had snot in her nose
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: If you penalize for snot, doesn't it stand to reason?
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: Can't you extrapolate out from there that if snot's not
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: allowed and saliva's not allowed, literal shit is also not allowed.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: I don't understand. What's going on?
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: But maybe there was just confusion amongst the staff. They
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: didn't really know. Plus, there was the kid gloves that
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: they were treating Joanna with because she's this, again, elite athlete.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: She's coming in with a high-level sponsorship. And I don't
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: remember what it was. And so I'm going to be
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: talking out of my ass a little bit, but I
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: think High Rocks right now stands at some sort of
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: a precipice. I don't know if they're going public. I
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: don't know if they're trying to do something bigger with
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: the business in general. They're like right at the edge
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: of doing it. This came at the worst possible time.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: So I think they wanted an athlete aligned with Puma.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: They wanted that kind of exposure and connection. And they
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: did it to the detriment of the regular person who's
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: trying to compete, the me and the you who's been
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: training all year, walking three miles a day with my dog,
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: trying to do the High Rocks competition and buying a
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: flight to Beijing and my hotel and everything. And here
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: I am competing with somebody shitting all over your course
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: and you're okay with it though.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And I think there, I've seen a couple comments
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: going around on the internet of people saying that they
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: thought High Rocks was trying to treat this situation the
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: same way that um there was an athlete a couple
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: months ago i think it was in a marathon situation
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: that while she was finishing the race she got her
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: period and so she had blood running down her legs
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: and stuff and so a lot of people were speculating
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: that hyrox was trying to treat this shit gate situation
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: as the same as that but the difference is that
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: A period is normal. Women can't control that. And it's not,
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's kind of a biohazard, but poop is
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: normal too. But like that was in a marathon situation. Outdoors.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: It was outdoors. So the risk of contamination was extremely low.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: And even though she had photos going around of her
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: starting her period, like people weren't as judgmental about it.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: That's a normal human thing, whatever. And so people were
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: kind of speculating that High Rocks was trying to treat
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: that as the same situation.
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: No.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: No. It's not the same situation when you have diarrhea
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: running down both of your legs and other people are
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: coming in contact with it.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: Like, that's just nasty.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Like, are you dumb? Like, are you stupid?
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: I don't understand.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: And so since this, after all this backlash.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: So much backlash, guys.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: All of this going completely viral across the world. Joanna
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: Wettrick was silent on Instagram and on social media for
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: a bit.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: For several days.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: For several days after she deleted her A Win is
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: a Win Instagram story. And then since she has released
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: an official apology that reads, I want to offer my
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: sincere apology to the people of China, my fellow competitors,
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: the spectators and the high rocks organizers for what happened
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: during the race in Beijing. I felt completely fit and
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: healthy at the start of the race with no reason
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: to expect any illness. Looking back, I regret the decision
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: to not have stepped off the track. I recognize that
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: I should have made a different choice. I take responsibility
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: for my decision to continue and am deeply sorry for
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: the discomfort and the disruption it caused. I know my
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: actions had an impact beyond myself and I am genuinely
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: sorry to everyone who was affected. I am learning from
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: this experience and will carry those lessons with me, including
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: remembering that there is more to life than racing and
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: knowing when it is the right time to step away.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: On reflection, I have decided to retroactively withdraw from the
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: race and forfeit the points that I earned. Thank you
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: to those standing by me, both as an athlete and
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: as a person during this time, and to everyone who
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: has reached out with kindness and support. It means more
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: to me than I can properly express right now. I
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: will be taking some time to recover, reflect, and look
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: after myself and my family away from the noise. Love, Joe.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: And then after this as well, Puma straight up dropped her,
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: I think, as a sponsor entirely.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it was after this. That's actually
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: kind of a curious point because a lot of people
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: are speculating that she makes this statement because Puma dropped
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: her apparel. They had some sort of a collaboration with Joanna,
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: some apparel thing, merch stuff, and they took it off
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: their website. And I'm sure there's like PR people, people
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: in her camp, her management that are telling her like, no,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: You need to come back out and you need to
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: make an actual statement because this is becoming a much
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: bigger deal. And I think that is, in my opinion,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: that is why she comes out with a statement. Was
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: that today? That was yesterday, today? Yeah. It was very,
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: very recently. That's very, to me, two things. Number one,
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: it's a very chat GPT response.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: A little bit.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: It's a very PR response. Yeah. And I guess that
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: she wants to be careful and I guess she's probably
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: running it by... her PR team and okay, I guess,
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: but like the way she ended it, which is the
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: second thing that I've got an issue with by referring
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: to the noise, the noise of social media, I would
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: assume she means and like the, just the reaction that
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: she's getting from the general public, as well as the
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: high rocks community. She's, she's calling it the noise. And
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: if you go into her comments, I don't know if
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: they're still up, but they were when I was looking
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: at them, people were taking issue with her referring to
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: their legitimate complaints and and criticisms about her choices and
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: her behavior as well as high rocks as noise, as
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: something to be dismissed and or to be like gotten
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: away from. Like it was just kind of a way
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: to trivialize everybody's concerns. I'm sure she didn't mean to
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: do that. I'm sure if she knew people would react
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: that way, she would have phrased it differently. But why though?
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: That's the thing. It's like, why are you doing it?
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: Are you doing it because you're losing brand deals? Because
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: you're now the poopy girl? Yeah. the high rocks, poopy girl.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: And that's a bummer. And I actually feel bad about
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: that for her. Or are you doing it because you
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: actually thought about it and said, yeah, that really sucked.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: I should not have done that. I should not have
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: exposed all of these people to a literal biohazard that
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: I was responsible for. That was wrong. Like which was,
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: which one was the motivation? And I'm not quite sure.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, the cynical part of me thinks she did
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: it because she's losing brand deals.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: I think it's one of those situations where because she
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: didn't react well after the incident, like immediately after, nothing
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: she could have really said would have been good enough
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: after that. And I think because this situation has gone
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: so viral and people have been so pissed off about it,
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: rightfully so in a lot of instances, there's nothing she
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: could really say that would be not subject to scrutiny.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: You know, like she... is going to be damned if
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: she does, damned if she doesn't. And I do feel
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: bad for some of the really harsh criticism about her because, again,
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: you can't really help sudden bowel incontinence, especially when you're
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: a high-performance athlete and you're pushing your body to the limit.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: I think a lot of us can't really understand that
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: happening to us because we're not competing in high rocks competitions.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: Like we're not, you are training for it. I should
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: say me. Um, I'm not competing for a competition. So
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: I can't understand it, you know, but I do want
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: to have respect for athletes that do push their bodies
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: to this kind of a limit where this does happen.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: Cause it is a thing that happens. I've seen a
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: lot of people comment online saying that she did this
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: on purpose. And I think that that's really ignorant and stupid.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: I don't think that she did it on purpose. I
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: think the thing that she did do on purpose was
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: continuing the race with shit running down her legs and
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: all over her arms without a regard for anybody else
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: around her. Like I said earlier, you know, when you're
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: a competitive athlete, you know, you kind of are in
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: a selfish mindset. You are just wanting to focus on
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: the prize and focus on the goal. And that's probably
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: what happened. She was kind of just single-minded, focused on
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: one thing and, you know, didn't even think about the
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: repercussions or think about the ramifications that she was putting
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: other people through. I think High Rocks was the failure here.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's the bigger brunt of responsibility. I do want
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: to say, though, that I respect that Joanna has forfeited
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: her win.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: I don't know if there was a monetary prize that
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: was assigned to this competition. And if there was, does
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: that mean that she's going to be returning the money?
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: What does that mean for the person who came in second?
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: Does that mean that they are now the person who
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: holds the title? I don't know, but it seems like
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: she's trying to do the right thing. And I think
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: that that's important to note. For sure.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: And then High Rocks, I guess, did come out today
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: saying that they were going to give full refunds to everybody.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: This is an article from the South China Morning Post
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: where they said, High Rocks China has given full refunds
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: to competitors affected by last weekend's incident in Beijing. while
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: the global governing body has updated its rulebook to allow
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: race directors to remove athletes if they pose a risk
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: to the hygiene of the event. So they did change everything.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: They are giving people refunds, which is good.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, what I saw was they were giving refunds
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: to people who competed at a certain time, and that
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: time is specifically tied to the folks that were competing
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: when Joanna was and behind Joanna. So I think they
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: took a period of time. And they said, if you
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: were competing from like 240 to 640 or something like that,
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: then you can get a refund. To me, I would
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: refund everybody. I would give everybody back their money.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: I would.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: Have already taken away Joanna's title. I would have, as
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: High Rocks, made that administrative decision to do that just
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: to be fair to absolutely everybody.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: And you should probably also compensate the workers that had
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: to clean all of that literal shit up with no
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: gloves because you didn't provide the organizers any gloves or Hygiene.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: Guidance or guidance. It's terrible. It's an awful situation for Joanna.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: She should have handled herself differently. I'm sure in the
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: future she absolutely will. But as it concerns high rocks,
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: I just feel like it's a very corporate response. They
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: waited until the backlash was at a fever pitch before
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: they offered to give anybody their money back. Even though
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: I think they're worth like $ 83 million or something like that.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: There's like a big multimillion dollar corporation. You should have
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: done the right thing right out of the gate. You
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: chose not to do it. And in fact, your co-founder
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: was pretty defensive. And in the comments, because I was
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: in the comments at the time, he was being pretty
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: snarky to people who were calling him to the carpet. Like,
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: are you going to DQ her? Like, what are you
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: going to do in the future? And he was being
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: pretty combative. Like he's just doesn't have media training and
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: that's unfortunate. And I do just want to say one
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: more thing before we wrap up, which is that people
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: like me who again, I'm not a High Rocks participant.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: I'm not an elite athlete.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: I thought you said you were.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: Well, whatever. Okay. But like people like me or you,
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: like we find this on our timeline because there's a
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: furor that's happening in the zeitgeist around this particular story.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: People like us flooding into comment sections, whether it's High
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: Rocks or Joanna and like demanding apologies and disqualifications and refunds.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: Like it's not, really our apology to receive. We weren't
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: the participants. We weren't in Beijing. And yeah, that's fucked up.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: And yeah, we can all sit here in the dumpster
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: and agree that that was handled badly. Like, ooh, that's
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: a bad look for High Rocks. But like to go
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: into comment sections, not that any of us would, and
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: just demand apologies for stuff. Like as people on social media,
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: I feel like we need to stop doing that.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: For real.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: And it's never good enough anyway. Even if you try
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: to give the best apology possible and be as honest
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: and authentic as As you can be, there's going to
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: be some harpy out there or some dude out there
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: who's just not going to accept your apology. It's not
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: for you, honey.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: How does it affect you personally?
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: It doesn't affect you at all. Just come on now.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: Like, chill out. You can have an opinion for sure.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: But like, it's not your personal issue.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: Were you there?
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: You weren't there. You were on your couch eating Doritos.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: Well, I was walking. I did have to poop. Well,
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: this was like, for me, I was entertaining.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, me too.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: I was sitting in my bed in my velvet blankets,
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: just like, I'm obsessed with what's happening with these athletes
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: out there.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: It's pretty extreme, yeah.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: But we all shit and that's a fact.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: Everybody poops.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: And women, we have our periods, not all women, but
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: like women, this happens to us. This is part of
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: bodily functions. It is. I just can't imagine being Joanna
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: and having to deal with this for the next few years, probably.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: It's going to become part of your identity, but you
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: know what? Just roll with it, babe.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: Now you're Miss... Shitty McDoodoo poopoo pants.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: From Australia.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: Australia.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: The wonderful country that gave us Raygun. Thanks, guys. Well,
• 42:34
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• 42:36
  Speaker 1: these beautiful raccoons before we get up on out of here?
• 42:39
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• 42:42
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• 42:44
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• 42:47
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• 42:48
  Speaker 1: We will be back later this week to talk Sister
• 42:51
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• 42:55
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• 42:59
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• 43:01
  Speaker 1: until then, we're still in the rewind season.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: We are.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: Come back for that. Until then, please do not forget
• 43:06
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• 43:11
  Speaker 2: Bye.
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: Bye now.