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Episode 76-College Football Playoff and Coaching Update · Johnny's World

0:20
SPEAKER_01: Welcome back to episode of the Johnny's World Podcast.
0:24
SPEAKER_01: This is BW here with my co-host Johnny.
0:28
SPEAKER_01: Evening, Johnny.
0:29
SPEAKER_01: Good evening, BW.
0:30
SPEAKER_01: How are you doing today?
0:32
SPEAKER_01: Doing good.
0:32
SPEAKER_01: I figured we'd we'd get on here one last time this year and record one.
0:37
SPEAKER_01: Lots of stuff's happened since the last time we were on.
0:39
SPEAKER_01: So we got a lot to talk about, and we'll send send the folks off uh for the rest of the year.
0:44
SPEAKER_01: Christmas break and happy new year and all that good stuff.
0:48
SPEAKER_00: So yeah, a lot a lot of stuff has happened since we uh we we were on here last last time we were on here.
0:54
SPEAKER_00: We were talking about the egg bowl, and and the egg bowl seems like a thing of the past with all the stuff that's happened here.
1:00
SPEAKER_00: Missouri State Athletics and college football overall.
1:04
SPEAKER_00: Um getting a new coach and then the SET championship game and the playoffs went down today, the seatings and people getting left out and feelings getting hurt and crazy stuff happening.
1:15
SPEAKER_00: And it's insane, man, what's been going on.
1:17
SPEAKER_00: So yeah, we'll take a deep dive into that and talk about our pick'ems and wrap it up and and uh wish everybody a Merry Christmas and and then uh folks on the new year.
1:27
SPEAKER_00: So yeah, I guess we'll go we'll go we'll go into it, man.
1:30
SPEAKER_00: What let's talk about the uh well, let's talk about the let's wrap up the egg bowl first.
1:35
SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, it it what we both said, we we both said that we were either gonna we're we're we we were either gonna pull the upset or we're gonna get blown out and neither one of those things happened, man.
1:48
SPEAKER_00: We didn't get blown out and we didn't pull the upset.
1:50
SPEAKER_00: So I don't know, man.
1:52
SPEAKER_00: We were all on spot on, you know, for the past couple years, and and neither one of those things happened.
1:57
SPEAKER_00: We uh we actually played decent.
1:59
SPEAKER_00: Uh if there's anything as a moral victory, uh I guess that would be one, but you don't want that to say that again when you a loss especially to your rival in state.
2:08
SPEAKER_00: But but man, they could have uh I'll give them props, man, because they could have they could have given it up and thrown in the bag when Ardett was fired and just said screw it and be done with it.
2:17
SPEAKER_00: But they fought fought hard in that game.
2:19
SPEAKER_00: And and uh, but I mean the old miss was just a better team, and we knew that going into the game and really didn't expect us to have a chance at all.
2:28
SPEAKER_00: And uh and we put up the fight with them and and when Will ran in for that touchdown and we got the lead and the place were going crazy.
2:35
SPEAKER_00: And uh man, one of our our good family friends was honored as the uh as the veteran of the game.
2:41
SPEAKER_00: So that was really cool getting to go down there and see that.
2:44
SPEAKER_00: And and uh then and then Ole Miss just kind of pulled away at the end.
2:48
SPEAKER_00: And but um, but yeah, proud of proud of the dogs, man.
2:52
SPEAKER_00: They're they really fought hard and that defense, man, they were just gassed, man.
2:56
SPEAKER_00: They they were on the field and they did such a good job that whole game.
2:59
SPEAKER_00: And it just old miss just proved to be the better team, which they were.
3:02
SPEAKER_00: But Buki Watson and and uh Jet Johnson, man, those guys are gonna be legends from now to the end of time.
3:08
SPEAKER_00: Mississippi State.
3:09
SPEAKER_00: They they what they did at Mississippi State defense will will go down for uh I mean they they were studs on that on that defense.
3:18
SPEAKER_00: Like I said earlier on our last podcast, if we didn't have them on defense, we would have been, I don't know how many can't we we would not have won hardly any at all.
3:26
SPEAKER_00: Uh they were just studs, man, everywhere on the tackle.
3:29
SPEAKER_00: Buki Watts and Jet Johnson just I mean, I can't say no good things about both of them.
3:33
SPEAKER_00: And and uh just a duo that will always be be uh be remembered forever.
3:38
SPEAKER_00: So uh so yeah, so we lose we lose the egg, but you know, it is what it is.
3:43
SPEAKER_00: We we we didn't really think we were gonna win it.
3:45
SPEAKER_00: And uh and then you know, we we wait and find out that we get a new coach.
3:51
SPEAKER_00: So uh I want to hear what you your take on that coach, uh, and then I'll I'll give you my opinion on the matter.
3:56
SPEAKER_00: What do you think?
3:57
SPEAKER_01: I'll tell you, uh uh just to be honest, I mean, I didn't I didn't really know a whole lot about the guy other than he was Art Browl's son-in-law, and he caused some controversy, you know, letting Art Browl's get on the field there.
4:09
SPEAKER_01: And uh you had sent me, I think, that uh letter somebody wrote about all the stuff that uh he was guilty in and all that kind of stuff.
4:18
SPEAKER_01: And uh so I was a little worried about it.
4:20
SPEAKER_01: Um, but you know, it's one of those things somebody was bound to hire him, and it it seems like it's gonna be a really good fit.
4:29
SPEAKER_01: I mean, all the um the press conference, the the deal at the airport, I mean, it was like it was crazy.
4:37
SPEAKER_01: Like the uh the songs and it was like WWE coming out there with him and Selman and and President Keenum, and I mean it was cool.
4:44
SPEAKER_01: Uh so it got me fired up and just I'm excited for us to have another offensive guy.
4:50
SPEAKER_01: Uh just you know, if we can score 45 points in a game, I mean, um, and the way it looks like the way that he's gonna do it, you know, we'd score a lot of points with Leech, but kind of a different style, and it's gonna be more exciting to watch.
5:05
SPEAKER_01: And even if we don't win a lot of games, if if we're putting up points and you know the games are exciting the first first year, I'll I'll just be happy with that.
5:12
SPEAKER_01: So I'm gonna be cautiously optimistic.
5:15
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I just I feel pretty good about it.
5:17
SPEAKER_01: And sounds like where the recruiting's gonna come back in and we're gonna get some good players back.
5:21
SPEAKER_01: Hope we can do some stuff in the transfer portal and maybe at least just get bowl eligible next year.
5:27
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, uh, hate hate.
5:29
SPEAKER_00: I saw the news about Tulu, man.
5:31
SPEAKER_00: He's uh um going to the draft.
5:33
SPEAKER_00: Hate that.
5:33
SPEAKER_00: It seems like a dumb move, man.
5:35
SPEAKER_00: Um, he I think he would have been explosive in in this new offense and hate that for him, but best of luck to him.
5:41
SPEAKER_00: Uh great ball player, but really feel like he would he would needed that one more year.
5:45
SPEAKER_00: But um man, I I I honestly don't know what to say about it.
5:50
SPEAKER_00: I I'm I'm like you, very cautiously optimistic.
5:53
SPEAKER_00: The reason why I say that, first of all, we've been down this road before.
5:56
SPEAKER_00: I don't want to buy into it, get all hyped up like we do the Moorhead.
6:00
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's the same type of deal, kind of scary because what where they say Moorhead was an offensive genius, we're gonna score some points, put up everything, offensive guy, you know, all that sort of stuff.
6:10
SPEAKER_00: And never been a head coach before, and he busted.
6:13
SPEAKER_00: And then you got Dan Mullen, offensive guy.
6:15
SPEAKER_00: We're gonna put up a lot of points and everything, and he was really successful.
6:19
SPEAKER_00: So um it's kind of hard to buy into it.
6:21
SPEAKER_00: You want him to be like Mullen, but he couldn't end up being like Moorhead.
6:25
SPEAKER_00: So the verdict's out.
6:26
SPEAKER_00: He's never been a head coach.
6:27
SPEAKER_00: Mullen came from uh Urban Meyer and had the national championships under Meyer at Florida, uh, with his background.
6:35
SPEAKER_00: Levy doesn't have that.
6:36
SPEAKER_00: He was with uh Ole Miss and Lane Kiffin, and and their offense was explosive.
6:42
SPEAKER_00: Um, like you said, he comes from Mark Browles' family, and I know they had some off-the-field deals at Baylor, and but Browles is a heck of a coach, always has been.
6:51
SPEAKER_00: Um, I know there's a lot of issues with the it seems like the fan base is split on morality, and a lot of been a lot of people reading, like, oh, we're starting our souls to get win football games and all that sort of stuff.
7:02
SPEAKER_00: And I I mean, I I don't know if that's what's your own opinion, what you think about that situation.
7:07
SPEAKER_00: But personally, man, I'm not pleased with the hire.
7:10
SPEAKER_00: The reason why is that doesn't have anything to do with that.
7:12
SPEAKER_00: Uh, I don't like it because he's never been a head coach.
7:15
SPEAKER_00: When we did this podcast last week or last time, I said we need to get somebody with a head coach experience, and you have to offer as much as$10 million for it.
7:25
SPEAKER_00: People would say, Oh, we don't have$10 million.
7:27
SPEAKER_00: Man, our alumni freaking Dak Prescott's making$40 million a year.
7:30
SPEAKER_00: He can't tell me he's not gonna, he can't chip in some money.
7:33
SPEAKER_00: We had enough to make pay$10 million a coach, and we didn't do it.
7:36
SPEAKER_00: We went the cheap route, and it just seems like the cheap route always bites us, and uh I don't know, man.
7:42
SPEAKER_00: I mean, he's getting what like 4.5, and I think Vanderbilt is like three something.
7:46
SPEAKER_00: So it's like, what are we doing, man?
7:48
SPEAKER_00: It's like offer a lot of money, get somebody with head coaching.
7:51
SPEAKER_00: But I had I've heard stories that people, the head coaches that we were going after turn us down.
7:56
SPEAKER_00: So I guess I mean, like Chadwell at uh Liberty, I mean, they're in a today, they were in a New Year's six ball.
8:02
SPEAKER_00: I think they're in the Fiesta ball.
8:03
SPEAKER_00: So can't blame him for staying with Liberty, Kansas guy.
8:07
SPEAKER_00: You know, we were looking at Kansas, Kansas State.
8:09
SPEAKER_00: They're staying put, but can't blame them.
8:11
SPEAKER_00: Their situations are better than the state right now.
8:14
SPEAKER_00: Um, so I mean, it's tough because you got guys that you want as head coaches, but they don't want to leave their schools because they're sitting pretty good right now compared to coming to rebuild things, so you can't fault them.
8:27
SPEAKER_00: But it's just uh, I don't know, man.
8:29
SPEAKER_00: I feel like we're going the cheap route.
8:31
SPEAKER_00: And and Selman, um, I will trust Selman and everything.
8:35
SPEAKER_00: But I mean, Selman knows Lebby from Oklahoma, so it seems like that was a I don't want to say a lazy hire on his part, but because he worked with uh Lebby and knows him, uh it could be a it could be a good thing, but it could be a bad thing too.
8:48
SPEAKER_00: So I don't know, man.
8:49
SPEAKER_00: There's so many questions out there on the table.
8:51
SPEAKER_00: But hey, man, if he can score a lot of points and do everything he says he can, I'll I'll I'll fully support him and 100%.
8:58
SPEAKER_00: But right now, I'm skeptical, kind of like a lot of other people on the hire.
9:02
SPEAKER_00: But um but like I said, yeah, obviously Selman did what he had to do.
9:06
SPEAKER_00: I mean, you can't make somebody come here, but you can offer money.
9:09
SPEAKER_00: And I guarantee you, man, if you offered a coach$10 million, they would have left their job to come to Mississippi State.
9:15
SPEAKER_00: I don't care how bad our program is compared to another one.
9:18
SPEAKER_00: If they're getting paid that much, they'll come.
9:21
SPEAKER_00: And I feel like we we we didn't do that.
9:23
SPEAKER_00: We got scared and and went the went the cheap route.
9:26
SPEAKER_00: And I hope it doesn't bite us, but that's just my take on it.
9:30
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I guess we'll just have to see.
9:32
SPEAKER_01: Uh I'll get a lot more um, you know, you you can tell a lot about how somebody carries themselves.
9:38
SPEAKER_01: And uh I hadn't seen a whole lot about him, but you know, Mullen always kind of had that confidence and right everything.
9:45
SPEAKER_01: And and uh Moorhead just kind of always felt like I I don't know, just I'm sure he's a great guy, but just kind of felt like a good old boy and wasn't really uh type of guy that just like has that charisma and and all that kind of stuff.
9:58
SPEAKER_01: So so we'll see if Lebby ends up being that guy or not.
10:01
SPEAKER_00: But uh I'm just glad Lebby didn't didn't come saying uh uh get your ring size ready.
10:07
SPEAKER_00: Like Moorhead.
10:10
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, well Moorhead had a had that 18 team coming in, so I guess he thought he thought he was gonna cruise on into that, but didn't work out.
10:20
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you're right.
10:21
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we were loaded.
10:22
SPEAKER_01: Yes, we were.
10:24
SPEAKER_01: But uh yeah, well, uh I guess you know, we'll just have to see how it goes.
10:29
SPEAKER_01: We won't really know much for a while.
10:30
SPEAKER_01: We'll see how the recruiting grows and everything, but uh lots still lots to talk about with uh college football.
10:36
SPEAKER_01: Man, just uh crazy.
10:37
SPEAKER_01: Um this was I can't remember a better weekend uh football, the championship games.
10:43
SPEAKER_01: I never seem like I get that that much into them, but I was I watched pretty much at least a little bit of all of them this weekend.
10:50
SPEAKER_00: And uh yeah, it was uh it was insane weekend.
10:53
SPEAKER_00: I know we talked about the Washington team, man.
10:56
SPEAKER_00: They're they're fun to watch, man.
10:58
SPEAKER_00: Michael Penix Jr.
10:59
SPEAKER_00: and and Dylan Johnson.
11:00
SPEAKER_00: It's just uh man, props to Dylan Johnson for leaving state, going to Washington.
11:05
SPEAKER_00: He bettered himself and he's getting to play in the in the final four.
11:08
SPEAKER_00: And and uh just he he he made the wise decision.
11:12
SPEAKER_00: Man, what a stud! Man, we definitely could have used him this year.
11:15
SPEAKER_00: Um, just a lot of fun to watch.
11:17
SPEAKER_00: Washington, uh man, don't count them out.
11:19
SPEAKER_00: I mean, they're uh people are probably gonna put them as underdogs of Texas, but they're really fun to watch.
11:24
SPEAKER_00: And uh in Michigan, man, everybody is uh everybody hates Michigan, obviously, for the cheating deal, which you know, I said that earlier.
11:31
SPEAKER_00: I was like, man, if state had done that, they would have given us the death tone.
11:35
SPEAKER_00: There was no way we would have been playing in the playoffs.
11:37
SPEAKER_00: Uh it's just they're a blue blood, man.
11:39
SPEAKER_00: So they get the pass on that.
11:40
SPEAKER_00: And and then uh and then Texas, you know, they did what they had to do to to beat uh, I mean, the way they beat Alabama, so um get in.
11:49
SPEAKER_00: But yeah, the the big controversy, everybody knows it's the Florida State, Alabama who's getting in.
11:56
SPEAKER_00: It's just a shame.
11:57
SPEAKER_00: I I really wanted Georgia to win because I mean we'll never see.
12:00
SPEAKER_00: I don't think a three-peat, man.
12:02
SPEAKER_00: Like never.
12:03
SPEAKER_00: I mean, even Bama never three-peeded during their all their runs.
12:06
SPEAKER_00: And and uh I was really hoping to see it because I've I've always liked Georgia and seemed like they they got a good program, but man, they were just you could tell Bama was better watching the SC championship yesterday.
12:16
SPEAKER_00: They just they had some injuries.
12:17
SPEAKER_00: Brock Powers, their best player, you know, uh not all not all 100%.
12:22
SPEAKER_00: And uh Bama was the better team.
12:25
SPEAKER_00: So but uh but yeah, man, what it comes down to is that that Florida State and and uh I don't know, man.
12:32
SPEAKER_00: I want to hear your thoughts on it.
12:33
SPEAKER_00: I'll give you my thoughts.
12:34
SPEAKER_00: Uh um I'm I'm a little torn between it because man, he finished the season undefeated.
12:39
SPEAKER_00: You do all you're supposed to do, you win your conference.
12:42
SPEAKER_00: I mean, what what else?
12:43
SPEAKER_00: I mean, that's pretty much saying the games don't matter.
12:46
SPEAKER_00: I mean, because yeah, uh, if you're undefeated, you you should get a chance to play for.
12:50
SPEAKER_00: But then on the same token, man, uh if you let a team in that's not, I mean, not at full strength when you know they're they're backup or third string guys going to be playing against they were who would they be against number one seed, uh, Michigan.
13:06
SPEAKER_00: I mean, we we saw that last year with TCU getting in, getting just list by Georgia 63 to 7 or something like that.
13:14
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's just not uh that's not Florida State is not one of the uh top four teams right now at this moment.
13:21
SPEAKER_00: Um, so I feel like the committee got it right in a sense that they put the top four, the best four teams in right now at this moment.
13:28
SPEAKER_00: But it's just an unfortunate deal for Florida State being undefeated and doing what they can.
13:33
SPEAKER_00: But man, I guarantee you if this was 2014, Mississippi State, Dak Prescott gets hurt, we'd they'd leave us out too because it's the same deal.
13:42
SPEAKER_00: You lose that star player, you're not the same team, even though they did beat uh Lewis Louisville last night.
13:48
SPEAKER_00: But the game, if you watched it, the game was sloppy, and there's no doubt Jordan Travis played that they they would have blown him out.
13:54
SPEAKER_00: So uh yeah, it's it's it's it's tough.
13:58
SPEAKER_00: And people are saying it's SEC Boss, man.
13:59
SPEAKER_00: We always get away with Bima, but but man, Alabama, uh, much as we everybody hate hates on them.
14:05
SPEAKER_00: I mean, they they they did what they had to do, they beat Georgia.
14:07
SPEAKER_00: I mean, Georgia was the top dog, two-time defending national championship, uh, won all these games, and then and then um they did what they had to do.
14:15
SPEAKER_00: But um, I'm I mean it's split down.
14:18
SPEAKER_00: I'm just glad that next year they're they're doing the 12-team playoff.
14:21
SPEAKER_00: Too bad it didn't happen this year because all those teams could have gotten in, and uh and it wouldn't be a controversy, but it just goes to that we do need a 12-team playoff because situations just like this.
14:33
SPEAKER_00: But uh, I mean, who knows if they had the 12-team playoff, Ole Miss is in it.
14:37
SPEAKER_00: So Naked probably win it.
14:39
SPEAKER_00: So who knows?
14:40
SPEAKER_00: But uh, but yeah, it's just uh unfortunate for Florida State fans out there.
14:44
SPEAKER_00: It's kind of like the 04 Auburn team.
14:46
SPEAKER_00: You remember that?
14:47
SPEAKER_00: Jason Campbell, Cadillac, and Ronnie Brown against uh USC and uh who was it?
14:52
SPEAKER_00: USC and uh Oklahoma, I believe.
14:55
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's right.
14:56
SPEAKER_00: Uh USC and Oklahoma in 04, I believe.
14:59
SPEAKER_00: Is that right?
15:00
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
15:01
SPEAKER_00: Um and it should have been should have been uh Auburn, and they got screwed because US USC went in ahead of them.
15:08
SPEAKER_00: But uh I think Auburn won the Sugar Bowl that year.
15:11
SPEAKER_00: They're all self-proclaimed them national champions, gave them rings.
15:16
SPEAKER_00: I don't know if they don't know about that, but they self-proclaimed them so it's like Central Florida in 2017.
15:21
SPEAKER_00: They finished undefeated, got left out, strength of schedule.
15:24
SPEAKER_00: Obviously, they would have gotten killed against uh who was it, Georgia and Alabama in 17.
15:29
SPEAKER_00: So either one of those teams would have blown them out, but they finished their job undefeated.
15:34
SPEAKER_00: I think they claimed themselves national champions.
15:35
SPEAKER_00: They had a believe they had a parade at Disney.
15:38
SPEAKER_00: So uh yeah, Florida State, you're out there, join that club, man.
15:42
SPEAKER_00: Create some rings, pull the banner uh uh proclaim yourself national champions.
15:47
SPEAKER_00: Uh, but man, they got a tough game.
15:48
SPEAKER_00: They have to play Georgia in the um Orange Bowls.
15:51
SPEAKER_00: So um, I don't know, man.
15:53
SPEAKER_00: That would be a tough one because both teams will be upset they didn't get in.
15:57
SPEAKER_00: But yeah, uh, but yeah, it's uh it's a tough deal.
16:00
SPEAKER_00: But you know what we talked about earlier today?
16:02
SPEAKER_00: Uh, you know whose fault all this is?
16:04
SPEAKER_00: Hugh Freeze.
16:05
SPEAKER_00: Hugh Freeze, man.
16:06
SPEAKER_00: Auburn stops Alabama on that fourth long end of the game.
16:10
SPEAKER_00: Alabama has two losses and they're not in the playoffs.
16:15
SPEAKER_00: So wouldn't that be crazy if Alabama wins the national championship and then it goes back to Hugh Freeze?
16:21
SPEAKER_00: Hugh Freeze causes Alabama to win the last championship pretty much.
16:25
SPEAKER_01: I tell you though, our friend our friends in Oxford would have tried to hang another banner over there though for the SEC West Championship.
16:30
SPEAKER_01: Had Alabama lost that game.
16:31
SPEAKER_01: So we we may have got lucky.
16:34
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's true.
16:36
SPEAKER_00: But uh, I think the whole world wants to see Alabama, Texas again.
16:39
SPEAKER_00: They have it set up for uh that kind of but uh yeah, it's good it's uh it's a tough deal for Florida State fans, but um you know you can't you can't help injuries, that's just the way injuries are gonna happen.
16:52
SPEAKER_00: And you take care of your job and do what you can, you gotta do, but sometimes it's not a lot not not uh not enough luck there.
17:00
SPEAKER_00: You have to have luck on your side and always, and and uh when it comes to this committee deal, and but who knows?
17:06
SPEAKER_00: I but I I feel like they got the top four best four teams right now at this moment in there, and that's gonna be fun to watch.
17:12
SPEAKER_00: So I can't wait to see the see the games take place.
17:14
SPEAKER_00: Hate the dogs aren't bowling this year in Port Mississippi State, but hopefully we can get back uh get back on the streak one of these days.
17:21
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I agree with you.
17:22
SPEAKER_01: I mean, uh, I do I do think they got the best four teams in there right now.
17:26
SPEAKER_01: I just I do hate it for Florida State, and I wish that um, you know, what just just uh wish we had the the 12 team playoff this year because I feel like this year more than any, there's not really that one team that feels unbeatable.
17:42
SPEAKER_01: Every other year, it's like, okay, well, you know, just waiting to play Georgia and then you know Georgia's gonna win and whatever.
17:48
SPEAKER_01: But like like honestly, this year it seems like anybody has a chance and anybody that can get in can do it.
17:53
SPEAKER_01: Even even Ole Miss could have hung hung around, who knows?
17:57
SPEAKER_01: But um you know, I I hate that we missed out on that, but I still think that these are gonna be some really good games, and I'm really excited to watch them and see how it turns out.
18:08
SPEAKER_01: But um, you know, just kind of looking at it, so you got uh Michigan and Washington, right?
18:16
SPEAKER_00: Uh Michigan and Michigan and uh Alabama.
18:20
SPEAKER_00: Okay, Michigan, Alabama, Texas, yeah.
18:23
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
18:24
SPEAKER_01: That one's that one's tough, you know.
18:27
SPEAKER_01: Um I I feel like it's almost it's it's kind of like old school team versus new Nick Saban team.
18:37
SPEAKER_01: Right.
18:38
SPEAKER_01: And Michigan's gonna be a you know, they're they're tough team and all that kind of stuff, but I feel like uh Milrose kind of hit his stride.
18:46
SPEAKER_01: And unless um Michigan can figure out a way to control the line of scrimmage and run the ball on Vama, I I just don't I don't see how they win it.
18:58
SPEAKER_01: And uh the Texas Washington though, I mean I really it's I mean I feel like I give the edge to um Washington just a little because they've been in so many close games and they can put up the points and and all that, and they they seem to be a more like gritty team than than Texas does.
19:16
SPEAKER_01: So I give a little bit of edge to Washington, but I could just as easily see Texas winning that game too.
19:21
SPEAKER_01: So that's it, it's gonna be a good game.
19:24
SPEAKER_01: Um I'm gonna predict that it ends up being Washington and Bama.
19:32
SPEAKER_01: And then I think at that point Bama rolls.
19:35
SPEAKER_01: Um yeah I I feel like Washington and Bama don't match up well together if that ends up being the scenario.
19:43
SPEAKER_01: So that's what I'm thinking.
19:45
SPEAKER_00: Before in the playoffs, and it was just a bloodbath, and Bama just smoked them a couple years back.
19:52
SPEAKER_00: Man, I I don't I'm I I'm with you on the Bama.
19:56
SPEAKER_00: I think Alabama beats Michigan.
19:57
SPEAKER_00: I think they do.
19:58
SPEAKER_00: I think Alabama's probably the hottest team in college football right now, which is so funny because we said that at the beginning of the year.
20:04
SPEAKER_00: We're like, we don't know who Bama's quarterback is, we don't know any of their players.
20:08
SPEAKER_00: But I guarantee you by the end of the season, someone's gonna show out and that's exactly always happen just like that.
20:16
SPEAKER_00: Um, but I think that uh I think Bama takes care of Michigan, and I think uh I think the Washington, Texas game is gonna be a close game.
20:24
SPEAKER_00: But I think Texas pulls it out, and uh, I think that we're gonna get that rematch that uh probably everyone wants to see Alabama.
20:33
SPEAKER_00: And uh and I think if they do rematch, I think Alabama wins it this time.
20:37
SPEAKER_00: I'll Nick Saban's not gonna lose a team twice in the same season.
20:41
SPEAKER_00: So uh man, I'm predicting Bama to win it all.
20:44
SPEAKER_00: And uh crazy as that sounds, man, they're one play away from not making the playoff as far as they get that fourth down.
20:52
SPEAKER_00: That miraculously, what is it called?
20:54
SPEAKER_00: The nightmare at Jordan Hare for Auburn fans.
20:57
SPEAKER_00: Just one, he literally stopped Milroy from throwing that pass.
21:00
SPEAKER_00: He runs more than two guys, he doesn't make that, and it's amazing that two guys on that, and and uh and they completed that pass.
21:08
SPEAKER_00: Uh if Bama wins it all, man, you you go back to that play at Auburn, make one stop, and then they can't make the playoffs, and it's a whole different thing you're looking at.
21:16
SPEAKER_00: But uh my predictions, um I think I think Bama's gonna roll and um and but looking forward to next year with that 12 team playoff.
21:24
SPEAKER_00: Now the Heisman trophy race, uh Watts, I'll talk about that.
21:28
SPEAKER_00: Uh all these guys that are, you know, Michael Penny Jr., I know Bo Nicks was in the in the mix for it.
21:33
SPEAKER_00: Nick's in the mix.
21:34
SPEAKER_00: It's funny.
21:35
SPEAKER_00: Uh Bo Knicks was in the mix for it.
21:37
SPEAKER_00: Um, but then Washington took care of him the other night.
21:39
SPEAKER_00: So I think that knocked him out.
21:41
SPEAKER_00: So man, I think it knocked him down to Michael Penix Jr.
21:43
SPEAKER_00: and Jaden Daniels at LSU.
21:46
SPEAKER_00: And uh man, you've got to put Jaden Daniels for Heisman.
21:50
SPEAKER_00: And and it the Heisman Trophy is the award for it's always been that way the best player in college football.
21:57
SPEAKER_00: It doesn't say best player in college football on the best team.
22:00
SPEAKER_00: It says the best player in college football.
22:02
SPEAKER_00: And it's unfortunate if he does not win it this year, because the stats that that dude's putting up is like video game numbers.
22:08
SPEAKER_00: I mean, just insane stats.
22:10
SPEAKER_00: And they have three losses.
22:12
SPEAKER_00: And that's going to hurt him if it if he doesn't win because of that.
22:16
SPEAKER_00: But uh, but man, I I really hope that that he wins it because he he's well deserving.
22:20
SPEAKER_00: Um he he torched Mississippi State when we played him with with uh with the guy from uh Malik Neighbors.
22:27
SPEAKER_00: I mean, they were just unreal and uh just watching him throughout the year, just running, passing, just doing everything.
22:35
SPEAKER_00: And uh, but then Washington, on the other hand, uh Penix Jr.
22:38
SPEAKER_00: got him all the way to where they are.
22:40
SPEAKER_00: And and uh he he he he's a great player, so can't be mad about if he wins it.
22:45
SPEAKER_00: But but if you're looking for best player who's put up the best stats in college football in the in in the season, then it's Jane Daniels and LSU.
22:55
SPEAKER_00: So uh I'm predicting he's gonna win it.
22:57
SPEAKER_00: I don't know if he will might be Penix Jr., but hope hope Daniels wins it and and uh because he's well deserved deserving to win it.
23:05
SPEAKER_00: And uh and we'll see what happens.
23:07
SPEAKER_00: But uh regardless, man, it's been a been a good season.
23:11
SPEAKER_00: Been a fast season, man.
23:13
SPEAKER_00: State struggled, man.
23:15
SPEAKER_00: This season still went by really fast because it seems like we're getting ready to get fired up about Ornette, man, and and everything.
23:22
SPEAKER_00: And just unfortunate.
23:24
SPEAKER_00: I still think the season turns out different if Will Roders and Woody Marks not get hurt.
23:28
SPEAKER_00: I think uh using both of those guys uh really cost the team a couple games and and um and our new line too.
23:37
SPEAKER_00: And the line, yeah.
23:38
SPEAKER_00: So I really feel like the season would have changed, and I think we would have gotten a bowl game, and I think Arnett would have kept his job and to be a whole.
23:47
SPEAKER_00: I mean, every but what is it?
23:49
SPEAKER_00: Um if if and butts or candy and nuts, we don't have a Merry Christmas.
23:54
SPEAKER_00: Uh you know, you can play the if and butts game all you want, but uh yeah, it's just unfortunate for Arnett, unfortunate for Will.
24:02
SPEAKER_00: Hope that guy uh lands in a place and does a great job.
24:06
SPEAKER_00: I'm here in Southern Miss and Western Kentucky are probably his two best options.
24:10
SPEAKER_00: His brother plays at Southern Miss and Western Kentucky.
24:16
SPEAKER_00: Um, I believe they do air raid and they coach up there, uh, has a relationship with Will.
24:21
SPEAKER_00: So um I I think either place is gonna be good for him.
24:25
SPEAKER_00: I'd love to see him go to uh Southern Miss.
24:27
SPEAKER_00: I'm sure his parents would too because uh they'd have both both sons on the same team.
24:32
SPEAKER_00: I think that'd be a cool story.
24:33
SPEAKER_00: And uh Will plays final year with his brother, and uh I think that would just be an awesome story if he goes to Southern Miss, but best of luck for what he uh what he does.
24:43
SPEAKER_00: And uh you can't fault him for leaving, excuse me.
24:46
SPEAKER_00: You can't fault him for leaving.
24:47
SPEAKER_00: I mean, he did everything he could for Mississippi State and and the offense that Levy runs is kind of is it's gonna be scoring a lot of points, but it's not the Mike Beats, Dink and Dunk.
24:56
SPEAKER_00: It's gonna be throwing it down the field, totally different uh offense system that he runs.
25:02
SPEAKER_00: So uh he made the wise move, in my opinion, to to transfer out and uh and just either better himself with the stats by going to Western Kentucky or I'll go play with his brother and wrap up his career there.
25:13
SPEAKER_00: And and uh like I said, I hate hate to lose gone, but best of luck to him and and these other guys that we lost, uh Buki and Jet.
25:22
SPEAKER_00: Can't say enough good things about them, Woody Marks, it's be hard to replace.
25:26
SPEAKER_00: Um, but um it's it I it will be interesting to see.
25:30
SPEAKER_00: Uh I did hear that um he's probably gonna hit up the uh portal route to get a quarterback.
25:35
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, excuse me.
25:36
SPEAKER_00: I know we got Parsons, but um he'll he's still young.
25:40
SPEAKER_00: And I'd love to see uh him pull Dylan Gabriel, the quarterback at Oklahoma, who has been working the past few years.
25:48
SPEAKER_00: If he could get him to come to state, watch out, man.
25:51
SPEAKER_00: That that would be a huge pickup right away.
25:53
SPEAKER_00: Same thing with KJ Jefferson.
25:55
SPEAKER_00: You know, KJ has uh Mississippi connections, I believe Dan Mullen recruited him to come to start.
26:02
SPEAKER_00: Well, then Dan left to go to Florida, and then he ended up going to Arkansas.
26:06
SPEAKER_00: So if Mullen had to come to state, KJ was come to state.
26:09
SPEAKER_00: So it'd be pretty cool to see him wrap up his career at state where he originally was going to go to begin with.
26:15
SPEAKER_00: So uh either one of those would be slam dunk uh wins, in my opinion, to um to get to play quarterback for state next year uh in Gabriel or KJ.
26:26
SPEAKER_00: But um that will that's what we need.
26:28
SPEAKER_00: Transfer quarterback to come in and uh and and just work that portal, man.
26:33
SPEAKER_00: Lebbee's supposedly good at recruiting, and the young guy can get him fired up.
26:38
SPEAKER_00: So bring him in and and we'll see what happens from there.
26:42
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
26:43
SPEAKER_01: Well um we'll we'll wrap it up with a little update of the Pick'em here.
26:47
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27:40
SPEAKER_01: And without further ado, I'm gonna announce the final winner of the Pick'em.
27:46
SPEAKER_01: He already knows he's won, probably, but Maroon Friday took the took the final deal.
27:53
SPEAKER_01: Bobcat came in, swept underneath me, stole an extra point somehow, and I finished in third.
28:01
SPEAKER_01: And then just to round out the top five, Rev Bully and D D's dirty dogs.
28:05
SPEAKER_01: Johnny, you finished in the top ten at number nine, but uh you didn't have the chair.
28:11
SPEAKER_00: I didn't realize we had picks yesterday.
28:13
SPEAKER_00: What the heck, man?
28:14
SPEAKER_00: Like I thought this yeah in the last game, I didn't know the conference championship week, so I didn't even put my picks in yesterday.
28:20
SPEAKER_00: So uh dang, man.
28:21
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28:24
SPEAKER_00: Uh thanks for uh jumping in and and uh and continuing to do this for the second year in a row.
28:29
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28:31
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29:00
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29:30
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29:32
SPEAKER_00: And congrats to Maroon Friday.
29:35
SPEAKER_00: Uh man, you're really good at pickings and and uh hope you're enjoying that Johnny Packer coffee.
29:40
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29:43
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29:45
SPEAKER_00: So um, yeah, thanks for playing.
29:47
SPEAKER_00: And uh it's been a fun season.
29:50
SPEAKER_00: Uh Hayda's coming to an end.
29:51
SPEAKER_00: We got you know, we were excuse me, we were really excited about basketball season coming up, and then we dropped bad weekend.
29:58
SPEAKER_00: We dropped one today in men's to Southern.
30:01
SPEAKER_00: I don't know how that happens.
30:03
SPEAKER_00: So um, but man, once we can get Tulu back, or Tolu, I so confused.
30:08
SPEAKER_00: We was Tulu Griffin, Tulu, Tolu Smith, Tolu Smith, Tolu, Tolu, Tolu uh back, then maybe that'll that'll help because uh yeah, you can't drop to get teams like this in a non-conference, and then you're gonna be fighting up an uphill battle on the RPI.
30:22
SPEAKER_00: So anyway, uh that's the story of Mississippi State Athletics.
30:27
SPEAKER_00: Get your hopes up and then get on board, and then something like that happens.
30:30
SPEAKER_00: So anyway, you got a long season ahead of some basketball.
30:33
SPEAKER_00: Hopefully they can get it turned around.
30:35
SPEAKER_00: And then we got baseball coming up in the spring.
30:37
SPEAKER_00: And and uh gosh, hope it's better than the past two years.
30:41
SPEAKER_00: But but with that note, we got uh, like I said, this will probably be our last podcast for the year, but we're gonna bring out the the new year on a good note.
30:49
SPEAKER_00: You're gonna be uh really um liking our guest that we have coming up.
30:53
SPEAKER_00: Uh uh, we're gonna catch him before he heads off to spring training in baseball.
30:58
SPEAKER_00: And he'll he'll be a well, uh well uh well-liked uh he is a well-liked player in Mississippi State baseball history, probably one of the best, a legend, definitely.
31:09
SPEAKER_00: Um, so I know y'all will can't wait to hear that one.
31:12
SPEAKER_00: So be looking for that first of the year.
31:14
SPEAKER_00: And um thank y'all so much for your support.
31:18
SPEAKER_00: Merry Christmas, uh Happy New Year, and and go dogs and uh see y'all next year.
31:23
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31:25
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31:27
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31:28
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31:30
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31:31
SPEAKER_00: Thanks for listening.
31:32
SPEAKER_00: Tune in next year for our guest uh to introduce our new season coming up in b in baseball.
31:37
SPEAKER_00: All right, take care.
31:38
SPEAKER_00: Go dogs.
31:39
SPEAKER_00: Go dogs.