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- 0:07Speaker 1: Despite being a nation steeped in folklore and legend, Finland
- 0:10Speaker 1: possesses surprisingly few modern accounts of the mysterious or paranormal.
- 0:14Speaker 1: Yet during the early 1970s, the Nordic country became the
- 0:18Speaker 1: setting for a series of bizarre UFO encounters that would
- 0:22Speaker 1: leave a lasting impression upon those involved. The most disturbing
- 0:27Speaker 1: of these incidents centered upon a strange humanoid figure reportedly
- 0:31Speaker 1: seen in the forests of central Finland, a being that
- 0:34Speaker 1: would later become known as the canula entity. As with
- 1:25Speaker 1: many of its Scandinavian neighbours, Finland possesses a rich folklore
- 1:30Speaker 1: populated by strange and often unsettling creatures. Amongst the most
- 1:36Speaker 1: infamous is the Naki, a shape-shifting water spirit said to
- 1:40Speaker 1: inhabit lakes and rivers, luring unsuspecting victims beneath the surface
- 1:44Speaker 1: to their deaths. Alongside it exists the Turasus, a fearsome
- 1:49Speaker 1: sea monster associated with chaos and destruction, whose appearance was
- 1:53Speaker 1: believed to herald disaster for those unfortunate enough to encounter it.
- 1:58Speaker 1: Yet unlike many nations with similarly deep folkloric traditions, Finland
- 2:03Speaker 1: has produced surprisingly few modern legends. Whilst neighbouring countries such
- 2:08Speaker 1: as Norway, Sweden and Russia continue to generate reports of cryptids,
- 2:12Speaker 1: hauntings and unexplained phenomena, Finland's catalogue of contemporary mysteries remains
- 2:18Speaker 1: comparatively sparse. Some have suggested this may be linked to
- 2:22Speaker 1: the country's unique geography. Finland is one of the most
- 2:25Speaker 1: sparsely populated nations in Europe, with much of its population
- 2:29Speaker 1: concentrated within a relatively small number of towns and cities.
- 2:34Speaker 1: Beyond these settlements lie vast expanses of forest, marshland and
- 2:38Speaker 1: wilderness that remain largely untouched by human development. It is
- 2:43Speaker 1: a landscape that can feel almost primeval in places. More
- 2:49Speaker 1: than 180,000 lakes are scattered across the country, separated by
- 2:52Speaker 1: immense stretches of woodland that seem to extend endlessly towards
- 2:56Speaker 1: the horizon. During winter, snow blankets much of the terrain,
- 3:00Speaker 1: whilst darkness can linger for hours each day. It is
- 3:05Speaker 1: perhaps unsurprising, then, that such an environment has long encouraged superstition.
- 3:11Speaker 1: Strange lights glimpsed between the trees, unusual sounds carried across
- 3:15Speaker 1: frozen lakes, or solitary figures seen standing at the edge
- 3:18Speaker 1: of the wilderness can take on an altogether different significance
- 3:22Speaker 1: when experienced in such isolation. Historically, many Finns believed that
- 3:28Speaker 1: unseen forces inhabited these remote regions. Spirits, guardians and other
- 3:33Speaker 1: entities that existed beyond the boundaries of ordinary human experience.
- 3:39Speaker 1: Perhaps for that reason, when genuinely strange reports do emerge
- 3:43Speaker 1: from these remote regions, they attract considerable attention, particularly when
- 3:48Speaker 1: the witnesses involved appear credible, and when some of the
- 3:52Speaker 1: incidents allegedly leave behind physical evidence. One such series of
- 3:57Speaker 1: encounters occurred across Western Finland during the early 1970s. Reports
- 4:02Speaker 1: that would leave a lasting psychological impact upon those involved,
- 4:06Speaker 1: and which centred around a bizarre humanoid figure that appeared
- 4:09Speaker 1: to arrive from the sky itself. Two of those incidents
- 4:14Speaker 1: would go on to become amongst the most famous and
- 4:16Speaker 1: enduring UFO cases in Finnish history. At around 8pm on
- 4:24Speaker 1: the evening of the 2nd of February 1971, Sunika Kutinen
- 4:28Speaker 1: and a friend were making the long drive home to Aulu,
- 4:32Speaker 1: after spending the evening in neighbouring Kusamo. The journey had
- 4:37Speaker 1: been uneventful. Beyond the windscreen, the Finnish countryside lay smothered
- 4:41Speaker 1: beneath snow and darkness, the surrounding forests reduced to little
- 4:45Speaker 1: more than black walls pressing in from either side of
- 4:48Speaker 1: the road. Then, Kutinen noticed a bright light reflected in
- 4:53Speaker 1: her rearview mirror. At first, she paid it little attention.
- 4:58Speaker 1: A vehicle travelling the same road wouldn't have been out
- 5:00Speaker 1: of the ordinary. Yet something about the light soon began
- 5:04Speaker 1: to feel off. Instead of remaining behind them, it appeared
- 5:09Speaker 1: to drift away from the road altogether. For several moments
- 5:13Speaker 1: it moved erratically across the darkness, before accelerating out over
- 5:17Speaker 1: the surrounding countryside. Both women watched as the light continued
- 5:22Speaker 1: to pace their vehicle from a distance. There were no
- 5:26Speaker 1: roads in that direction, no isolated farmhouses. no settlements hidden
- 5:32Speaker 1: amongst the trees. Beyond the verge stretched only dense woodland
- 5:36Speaker 1: and open snow-covered ground. Yet, somehow, the object maintained its speed,
- 5:43Speaker 1: gliding through the darkness alongside them. Without warning, it then
- 5:48Speaker 1: altered course and began moving back towards the road. Both
- 5:53Speaker 1: women could only watch as it crossed the intervening distance
- 5:56Speaker 1: with startling speed. Within moments, it had risen above them,
- 6:01Speaker 1: As it passed overhead, both experienced intense ringing in their ears,
- 6:06Speaker 1: accompanied by a strange pressure in their heads. Then, just
- 6:11Speaker 1: as suddenly, it was gone. The object shot away into
- 6:16Speaker 1: the darkness ahead, covering what appeared to be several hundred
- 6:20Speaker 1: metres in only a few seconds, before descending sharply behind
- 6:24Speaker 1: a line of trees bordering the road. For a brief moment...
- 6:29Speaker 1: Both women feared they had just witnessed an air crash.
- 6:36Speaker 1: Kutunen eased her foot off the accelerator and eventually brought
- 6:39Speaker 1: the vehicle to a halt. Sitting in silence, the pair
- 6:43Speaker 1: stared through the windscreen towards the point where the object
- 6:45Speaker 1: had disappeared. They expected flames, smoke, some indication that whatever
- 6:51Speaker 1: had plunged beyond the treeline had struck the ground. But
- 6:55Speaker 1: there was nothing. Nothing. The forest remained dark and silent.
- 6:59Speaker 1: No explosion echoed through the trees. No fire illuminated the snow.
- 7:05Speaker 1: There was not even the faintest suggestion of any kind
- 7:07Speaker 1: of wreckage. Then, something moved. A dark shape emerged from
- 7:15Speaker 1: the shadows beneath the trees. The figure appeared only briefly
- 7:19Speaker 1: before launching itself upwards into the air. It landed several
- 7:23Speaker 1: feet further, paused, and then repeated the motion. Roughly the
- 7:29Speaker 1: size of a small child, it neither walked nor ran. Instead,
- 7:34Speaker 1: it advanced by means of a series of peculiar leaps
- 7:37Speaker 1: that carried it steadily from the treeline towards the road.
- 7:41Speaker 1: Stranger still, each leap appeared almost weightless. For the briefest instant,
- 7:48Speaker 1: the figure seemed to just hang, suspended above the ground,
- 7:52Speaker 1: before descending once more. With every bound, it drew closer.
- 7:58Speaker 1: What had first appeared as little more than a silhouette
- 8:01Speaker 1: gradually emerged from the darkness, its outline becoming clearer in
- 8:05Speaker 1: the ambient glow of the headlights. Neither woman could determine
- 8:09Speaker 1: exactly what they were looking at. Most disturbing of all, however,
- 8:14Speaker 1: was the growing sense that it was not simply crossing
- 8:16Speaker 1: the road by chance, but was deliberately approaching their vehicle. Then,
- 8:23Speaker 1: with one final leap the figure landed in the middle
- 8:26Speaker 1: of the road, directly ahead of their car. For the
- 8:31Speaker 1: first time, fully illuminated by the glare of the headlights,
- 8:35Speaker 1: Kutinen and her friend were able to see it clearly.
- 8:43Speaker 1: The two witnesses would later describe the figure standing in
- 8:45Speaker 1: the road before them as being roughly three feet in
- 8:48Speaker 1: height and possessing a noticeably slender build. The figure appeared
- 8:53Speaker 1: to be dressed in a dark suit of some description,
- 8:55Speaker 1: described as green or brown in colour. Covering its head
- 8:59Speaker 1: was what looked to be a metallic helmet, rounded in
- 9:02Speaker 1: shape and vaguely reminiscent of those worn by deep-sea divers.
- 9:07Speaker 1: The visor or viewing port completely obscured the features of
- 9:11Speaker 1: the wearer, lending the figure an impersonal and deeply unsettling appearance.
- 9:18Speaker 1: For several moments, the entity simply remained where it was.
- 9:22Speaker 1: Neither woman could later recall any obvious movement, gesture or
- 9:26Speaker 1: attempt at communication, yet both were left with the distinct
- 9:30Speaker 1: impression that the figure was studying them just as intently
- 9:34Speaker 1: as they were studying it. Then, something changed. The figure
- 9:40Speaker 1: appeared to draw itself upright, its posture becoming noticeably more rigid. Slowly,
- 9:47Speaker 1: it turned towards the vehicle and fixed its attention upon
- 9:51Speaker 1: the two occupants inside. The entity neither approached the car
- 9:55Speaker 1: nor displayed any overtly threatening behaviour, yet both were would
- 10:00Speaker 1: later describe experiencing an overwhelming sense of fear as its
- 10:04Speaker 1: attention settled upon them. It was not merely the shock
- 10:08Speaker 1: of seeing something so bizarre standing in the middle of
- 10:11Speaker 1: a remote road, rather it was the growing realisation that
- 10:15Speaker 1: whatever they were looking at, seemed fully aware of their presence.
- 10:20Speaker 1: And it was looking back. Whether this reaction stemmed from
- 10:26Speaker 1: the figure's unusual appearance, the circumstances of the encounter, or
- 10:30Speaker 1: some other factor entirely is impossible to determine. What is
- 10:34Speaker 1: clear is that neither woman wished to remain there any
- 10:37Speaker 1: longer than necessary. Kutinin pressed her foot hard against the
- 10:42Speaker 1: accelerator and sent the vehicle surging forwards. As the car
- 10:47Speaker 1: sped past the figure, neither occupant dared take their eyes
- 10:51Speaker 1: from it. According to her account, the figure launched itself
- 10:55Speaker 1: upwards once again, before disappearing into the darkness beyond the road.
- 11:01Speaker 1: Several days would pass before either witness found the courage
- 11:04Speaker 1: to report what they had experienced, and it was only
- 11:07Speaker 1: after considerable hesitation that they eventually decided to speak about
- 11:11Speaker 1: the incident. Before they had the opportunity to do so, however,
- 11:17Speaker 1: another encounter would take place. This time, the consequences for
- 11:22Speaker 1: those involved would prove even more profound. The morning of
- 11:29Speaker 1: the 5th of February 1971 had dawned grey and overcast.
- 11:35Speaker 1: Low cloud hung over the Finnish countryside, whilst a persistent
- 11:39Speaker 1: cold seemed to seep through every layer of clothing, no
- 11:42Speaker 1: matter how heavily one dressed. For Peta Aliranta and Esco Sneck, however,
- 11:49Speaker 1: such conditions were simply an accepted part of life. The
- 11:53Speaker 1: two young lumberjacks had spent the day working in the
- 11:56Speaker 1: woodland near their home village of Cangascula. It was physically
- 12:01Speaker 1: demanding labour, made no easier by the snow-covered terrain and
- 12:04Speaker 1: the steadily falling temperature. As afternoon gradually gave way to evening,
- 12:10Speaker 1: both men began to feel the effects of the worsening conditions.
- 12:14Speaker 1: and it was eventually agreed that they would finish earlier
- 12:17Speaker 1: than usual and continue the remaining work another day. It
- 12:21Speaker 1: was whilst preparing to leave that Ali Ranta noticed something unusual.
- 12:27Speaker 1: Having finished his final task, he was in the process
- 12:30Speaker 1: of securing his chainsaw when a movement above the tree
- 12:34Speaker 1: line caught his attention. Looking up, he became aware of
- 12:38Speaker 1: a strange object hovering above a stand of pines some
- 12:42Speaker 1: distance away. The object appeared metallic in construction and vaguely disc-shaped,
- 12:49Speaker 1: though not in a manner often associated with popular depictions
- 12:52Speaker 1: of flying saucers. Ali Ranta would later compare it to
- 12:57Speaker 1: two shallow metal dishes placed one on top of the other.
- 13:01Speaker 1: The structure was estimated to be approximately 15 feet in
- 13:04Speaker 1: diameter and supported by four slender appendages extending downwards from
- 13:09Speaker 1: the underside. These resembled landing struts. The craft hung motionless
- 13:16Speaker 1: above the forest, apparently suspended in mid-air, and yet produced
- 13:20Speaker 1: none of the noise one would ordinarily associate with a
- 13:23Speaker 1: helicopter or aircraft. There was no engine note, no mechanical vibration,
- 13:29Speaker 1: and no disturbance of the surrounding trees. It simply hovered
- 13:33Speaker 1: there in silence. Then the object began to descend. The
- 13:40Speaker 1: movement was smooth and deliberate. as though it was lowering
- 13:43Speaker 1: towards the ground, under control. Gradually it settled into a
- 13:51Speaker 1: small clearing approximately 50 metres from where he stood. His
- 13:56Speaker 1: colleague was still occupied with a tree some distance away,
- 13:59Speaker 1: and appeared completely unaware that anything unusual was taking place.
- 14:05Speaker 1: An opening had appeared in the underside of the craft.
- 14:08Speaker 1: From this aperture emerged a figure. The being stood no
- 14:14Speaker 1: taller than a young child, and appeared dressed in a
- 14:17Speaker 1: dark green, one-piece suit that clung tightly to its body.
- 14:22Speaker 1: Covering its head was a metallic helmet, similar in appearance
- 14:26Speaker 1: to that later described by Soneka Kutinen and her companion.
- 14:31Speaker 1: Set into the front was a single dark visor, which
- 14:34Speaker 1: completely concealed the features of the being. For several seconds,
- 14:39Speaker 1: Ali Ranta simply stared. He could see no hands, nor
- 14:44Speaker 1: could he distinguish any feet. The limbs appeared to end
- 14:49Speaker 1: without the features one would naturally expect to find there.
- 14:54Speaker 1: As it left the craft and began crossing the snow-covered clearing,
- 14:58Speaker 1: it did not appear to walk in any conventional sense. Instead,
- 15:03Speaker 1: it advanced by means of a series of short gliding motions,
- 15:07Speaker 1: rising slightly above the ground before settling back down again.
- 15:12Speaker 1: Despite the fresh snow covering the clearing, it seemed to
- 15:15Speaker 1: leave little trace of its passage, and with each silent movement,
- 15:20Speaker 1: it drew steadily closer to where the young lumberjack was standing.
- 15:27Speaker 1: It was not until Snek completed the final cuts on
- 15:30Speaker 1: the tree he had been working on that he finally
- 15:33Speaker 1: turned his attention back towards his colleague. Standing some distance away,
- 15:39Speaker 1: Ali Ranta appeared transfixed, staring at a small figure that
- 15:43Speaker 1: was slowly advancing across the snow towards him. Most alarming
- 15:48Speaker 1: of all was the manner in which it was approaching.
- 15:52Speaker 1: The figure had raised both of its strange limbs, and
- 15:55Speaker 1: appeared to be extending them towards Aliranta. Whether this represented
- 16:00Speaker 1: a greeting, an attempt at communication, or something more sinister,
- 16:05Speaker 1: neither man could know. To Sneck, however... the sight looked
- 16:10Speaker 1: unmistakably threatening. Reacting instinctively, he started his chainsaw and began
- 16:17Speaker 1: running in the direction of the figure. The sudden roar
- 16:21Speaker 1: of the motor shattered the stillness that had settled over
- 16:23Speaker 1: the scene, but the effect was immediate. Instead of continuing
- 16:28Speaker 1: towards Aliranta, it abruptly altered course and began gliding away
- 16:33Speaker 1: across the snow. Moments earlier, Ali ran to her and
- 16:37Speaker 1: appeared rooted to the spot. Now, seeing the strange visitor withdraw,
- 16:43Speaker 1: he seemed to regain control of himself. He broke into
- 16:47Speaker 1: a run and began pursuing the figure as it headed
- 16:50Speaker 1: back towards the waiting craft. Together, the two lumberjacks crossed
- 16:55Speaker 1: the clearing. Set into the side of the metallic object
- 16:59Speaker 1: were three square sections that appeared partially translucent. Both men
- 17:05Speaker 1: would later report being able to see movement behind them.
- 17:08Speaker 1: There were silhouettes. Several dark figures, similar in size to
- 17:13Speaker 1: the entity they were pursuing, appeared to be moving about
- 17:16Speaker 1: within the interior of the craft. The being itself was
- 17:20Speaker 1: now rapidly approaching and opening in the underside of the object.
- 17:25Speaker 1: It was midway through one final glide when Ali Ranta
- 17:28Speaker 1: made a sudden decision. Rather than allowing the figure to escape,
- 17:33Speaker 1: he lunged forwards. For a brief moment, it appeared as
- 17:37Speaker 1: though he might actually succeed in capturing it. His hand
- 17:41Speaker 1: closed around the lower portion of the entity's right limb
- 17:44Speaker 1: as he attempted to pull it back towards the ground.
- 17:48Speaker 1: Ali Ranta later described being overwhelmed by a surge of
- 17:51Speaker 1: pain so intense that it felt as though a powerful
- 17:54Speaker 1: electric current had passed directly through his body. The sensation
- 17:59Speaker 1: forced him to release his grip, stumbling backwards as he
- 18:03Speaker 1: did so. The figure continued into the craft, and the
- 18:07Speaker 1: opening sealed shut behind it. For several seconds nothing happened,
- 18:14Speaker 1: but then a deep buzzing sound began to emanate from
- 18:16Speaker 1: the object. It rapidly increased in intensity until the entire
- 18:21Speaker 1: craft suddenly shot upwards into the sky. A blast of
- 18:26Speaker 1: hot air and wind struck both men with surprising force
- 18:29Speaker 1: as the object accelerated away from the clearing and vanished
- 18:32Speaker 1: into the low cloud overhead. Just as abruptly as it
- 18:36Speaker 1: had appeared, it was gone. The encounter had lasted only minutes,
- 18:42Speaker 1: yet both men were left struggling to comprehend what they
- 18:45Speaker 1: had witnessed. Ali Ranta was clutching his right hand. When
- 18:52Speaker 1: the pair carefully removed his heavy work glove, they discovered
- 18:55Speaker 1: a substantial burn covering part of the skin beneath. The
- 19:00Speaker 1: injury was severe enough to require medical attention and would
- 19:03Speaker 1: take months to fully heal. Even then, it left behind
- 19:08Speaker 1: permanent scarring that remained visible for the rest of his life.
- 19:13Speaker 1: The following day, the two men reported the incident to
- 19:16Speaker 1: the local police. The officers who interviewed them took the
- 19:20Speaker 1: matter seriously enough to visit the site for themselves. There,
- 19:25Speaker 1: within the snow-covered clearing, investigators discovered a series of impressions
- 19:29Speaker 1: consistent with the landing supports described by the witnesses. For
- 19:34Speaker 1: the police, the marks did not prove the existence of
- 19:37Speaker 1: extraterrestrial visitors. They did, however, demonstrate that something had occurred.
- 19:44Speaker 1: And perhaps more significantly, they appeared to lend further credibility
- 19:48Speaker 1: to the encounter reported only two days earlier by the
- 19:51Speaker 1: two women travelling through the forests of Kaminki. The various
- 19:59Speaker 1: reports describing unusual aerial objects and their apparent occupants in
- 20:03Speaker 1: the Canula region were confined to a remarkably short period
- 20:06Speaker 1: during the early 1970s. Yet, whilst the encounters themselves were brief,
- 20:13Speaker 1: they remain intriguing for a number of reasons. Perhaps the
- 20:18Speaker 1: most striking is the extent to which they appear to
- 20:20Speaker 1: mirror reports emerging from other parts of the world during
- 20:23Speaker 1: the same period. Throughout the 1960s and 1970s, witnesses across Europe,
- 20:30Speaker 1: North America and the Soviet Union described encounters involving strange
- 20:34Speaker 1: aerial craft and humanoid figures whose appearance often shared a
- 20:38Speaker 1: number of surprising similarities. Many of these reports originated in
- 20:43Speaker 1: isolated rural locations, and involved individuals who had no apparent
- 20:48Speaker 1: connection to one another. In several cases, witnesses described entities
- 20:53Speaker 1: of unusually small stature, clad in tight-fitting suits and concealed
- 20:57Speaker 1: behind helmets or featureless visors. Others reported unusual physiological effects
- 21:04Speaker 1: following their encounters, including burns, temporary paralysis, ringing in the ears,
- 21:10Speaker 1: feelings of intense pressure, and overwhelming sensations of fear. Whether
- 21:16Speaker 1: these similarities represent coincidence, cultural influence, or evidence of some
- 21:21Speaker 1: underlying phenomenon remains the subject of considerable debate. Amongst the
- 21:27Speaker 1: better known examples is the experience of former police officer
- 21:31Speaker 1: Herbert Shermer in Nebraska during 1967. Whilst investigating reports of
- 21:37Speaker 1: a strange light, Shermer claimed to have encountered a landed
- 21:40Speaker 1: craft and several humanoid occupants before later discovering a series
- 21:45Speaker 1: of unusual physical symptoms and apparent gaps in his memory. Likewise,
- 21:51Speaker 1: in 1973, A witness in Fulkville, Alabama reported encountering a
- 21:56Speaker 1: strange metallic humanoid figure along a rural road. Described as
- 22:01Speaker 1: small in stature and clad in what appeared to be
- 22:04Speaker 1: a reflective suit, the entity was said to move in
- 22:07Speaker 1: an unusual manner, leaping and bounding away at remarkable speed
- 22:11Speaker 1: when approached. The incident, often referred to as the Alabama
- 22:16Speaker 1: Metal Man, remains one of the more unusual humanoid encounters
- 22:20Speaker 1: reported in the United States during that period. Finland's proximity
- 22:25Speaker 1: to Russia provides another interesting point of comparison. The former
- 22:30Speaker 1: Soviet Union generated a substantial number of UFO reports throughout
- 22:34Speaker 1: the 20th century. Perhaps the most famous is the alleged
- 22:38Speaker 1: landing that reportedly took place in the city of Vronjez
- 22:42Speaker 1: in 1989, where witnesses claim to have observed a craft
- 22:45Speaker 1: descend into a public park before several unusual occupants emerged
- 22:50Speaker 1: and interacted with those nearby. Skeptics have naturally argued that
- 22:56Speaker 1: such stories are the product of misunderstanding, exaggeration or folklore
- 23:01Speaker 1: adapting itself to a technological age. Certainly, extraordinary claims demand
- 23:06Speaker 1: extraordinary evidence. Yet, what makes cases such as Kinniller difficult
- 23:12Speaker 1: to dismiss outright is that they often contain details that
- 23:15Speaker 1: are unexpectedly difficult to explain. In the Finnish incidents, there
- 23:20Speaker 1: were multiple witnesses, reported physical injuries, and observations made independently
- 23:26Speaker 1: of one another. More significantly, the encounters occurred years before
- 23:31Speaker 1: the internet made the rapid sharing of such stories possible.
- 23:35Speaker 1: The witnesses involved were ordinary people, a pair of women
- 23:39Speaker 1: travelling home along a rural road, two lumberjacks finishing a
- 23:42Speaker 1: day's work in the forest. None appeared to have been
- 23:46Speaker 1: seeking publicity. none appear to have benefited from their claims,
- 23:51Speaker 1: and yet all four emerge with remarkably similar descriptions of
- 23:54Speaker 1: both the craft and its apparent occupant. Whether those similarities
- 24:00Speaker 1: point towards an extraordinary reality or merely an extraordinary coincidence
- 24:05Speaker 1: is a question that remains unanswered. What is certain is
- 24:09Speaker 1: that more than half a century later, the Kinnula encounters
- 24:13Speaker 1: continue to occupy a curious place within UFO history, a
- 24:18Speaker 1: small cluster of reports from a remote corner of Finland, which,
- 24:22Speaker 1: despite the passing years, remain every bit as strange as
- 24:27Speaker 1: the day they were first recorded. so so This is
- 25:29Speaker 1: the first time I've ever seen a bird in a cage.
- 26:11Speaker 1: you