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Hour Two | Saints Win in Baltimore! Shough & Olave Shine · Off The Bench

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  Speaker 1: Off the Bench with Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, here we go.
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  Speaker 1: Where the plays get broken down and science gets denied.
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  Speaker 2: Dude, they said I gotta come off the bench.
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  Speaker 1: Hour two of Off the Bench, live from the Raising
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  Speaker 3: The river's all wet.
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  Speaker 4: All right, welcome back in. Hour number two of OTB.
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  Speaker 4: We will certainly find our way back to some LSU discussion.
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  Speaker 4: Spent the first hour on LSU. Let's go to the
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  Speaker 4: New Orleans Saints now, where the Saints win 24-17 on
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  Speaker 4: the road against the Baltimore Ravens. The Baltimore Ravens were
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  Speaker 4: an 8.5 point favorite in this game. It opened up
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  Speaker 4: at 7.5. It actually grew to 8.5. 15 to nothing.
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  Speaker 4: The Saints outscored the Ravens 15 to nothing in the
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  Speaker 4: fourth quarter. Another great come from behind victory this time.
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  Speaker 4: Last time you come from three touchdowns down on the road,
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  Speaker 4: you fall just short there. Saints are like one play
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  Speaker 4: away from being 2-0 and being in complete control of
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  Speaker 4: the NFC South. But I still like exactly where they're
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  Speaker 4: at in the South after watching the South play out
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  Speaker 4: over the first two weeks of the year. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: this is a game in which the Baltimore Ravens at
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  Speaker 4: one point, you know, ESPN does the win probability. They
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  Speaker 4: had a 91% chance to win this game in the
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  Speaker 4: third quarter. The Ravens did. And the Saints come and
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  Speaker 4: they completely take over the game. And Tyler Shuck was
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  Speaker 4: really good yet again. 27 of 34, 252, 7.4 yards
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  Speaker 4: per attempt. One touchdown, no interceptions. Did take three sacks,
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  Speaker 4: but all three of those sacks were, you know, ones
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  Speaker 4: he couldn't really avoid. It was a little bit of
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  Speaker 4: a lookout situation. Quarterback rating of 107.4. He outplayed Lamar Jackson,
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  Speaker 4: and he continues to be the guy that is your future.
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  Speaker 4: He elevates those around him so well. And I was
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  Speaker 4: trying to put that out there yesterday. Like, I don't
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  Speaker 4: care what his stats are.
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  Speaker 5: Like, I really don't.
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  Speaker 4: Now, he had a good day. I mean, he was
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  Speaker 4: very efficient. Completion percentage was awesome. But he just elevates
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  Speaker 4: those around him. like the tight ends play better when
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  Speaker 4: he's in there, the receivers play better when he's in there.
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  Speaker 4: Like he is just somebody that has that rare skill
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  Speaker 4: and you can't define it. You wish you could bottle
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  Speaker 4: it up, but he's got that. Um, I thought Chris
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  Speaker 4: Alave yet again was awesome. I thought Jawan, Jawan Johnson
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  Speaker 4: might be the player that elevates his play the most
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  Speaker 4: with Tyler Shuck.
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  Speaker 5: He was good yet again.
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  Speaker 4: Uh, Devon Bailey had a couple of really big catches.
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  Speaker 5: Um, The 29-yarder that he had was a big, big play.
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  Speaker 2: In this game.
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  Speaker 4: You hit, if I'm not mistaken, I think it was
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  Speaker 4: eight receivers. Eight different receivers. I'll have to go back
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  Speaker 4: and look at it. I think it was eight different
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  Speaker 4: receivers that he hit in this game. And look, some
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  Speaker 4: of them were one catches. Some of them were two catches.
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  Speaker 4: Like AK had five for seven yards. It wasn't a
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  Speaker 4: lot there, but I'm saying he was spreading the football
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  Speaker 4: out to multiple people. And the defense deserves a lot
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  Speaker 4: of credit as well for shutting down the Baltimore Ravens.
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  Speaker 4: That's a really good offense. And I know they were
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  Speaker 4: missing Zay Flowers, but they still had Derrick Henry. They
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  Speaker 4: still had Lamar Jackson. They had some players that were
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  Speaker 4: on the injury list that ended up playing on that offense.
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  Speaker 4: And in the second half, you gave up three points
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  Speaker 4: to the Baltimore Ravens at home.
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  Speaker 5: You got after Lamar Jackson. You had three sacks in
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  Speaker 5: the game.
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  Speaker 4: I know that's not setting records, but against that guy–
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  Speaker 4: You get him on the ground three times, you feel
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  Speaker 4: pretty good about the day that you had. So just
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  Speaker 4: an ultimate team effort by the New Orleans Saints to
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  Speaker 4: go on the road, win 24-17 when you were more
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  Speaker 4: than a touchdown.
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  Speaker 5: Dog, and you got a dog at quarterback in Tyler Shuck.
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  Speaker 2: It's funny, like the last two weeks, so the first
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  Speaker 2: two weeks of the NFL season, we've been talking about
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  Speaker 2: how the Saints had the second or third highest line
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  Speaker 2: against them going into the game. We talked all offseason,
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  Speaker 2: especially during training camp, getting closer to the season about, man,
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  Speaker 2: those first two, if we just get past those first
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  Speaker 2: two weeks, then your schedule's a little bit more set
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  Speaker 2: up for you. Who would have thought before the season started,
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  Speaker 2: we hadn't really seen Tyler Shook play at all. We
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  Speaker 2: really didn't know what was going on. There was a
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  Speaker 2: lot of injuries happening in training camp, and we were like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: are we snake-bitten again here for the Saints? Well, you
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  Speaker 2: go and you are a 62-yard field goal away from
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  Speaker 2: beating Detroit in Detroit.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And then you go to Baltimore and you win that game. Like,
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  Speaker 2: those are, like, the Saints have outplayed, outperformed any expectation
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  Speaker 2: that was set on them for these two games. You
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  Speaker 2: go one-on-one. You split them. Like, and you were damn
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  Speaker 2: close to going 2-0. Yeah. Now, you're at home. You
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  Speaker 2: host the Raiders. Who? Okay.
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  Speaker 6: All right.
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  Speaker 2: Credit where credit's due. 2-0 Las Vegas Raiders. Who would
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  Speaker 2: have thought? But then you host the Falcons, who are
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  Speaker 2: just bad, bad.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Bad, bad. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I told you coming back, their training camp practice was
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  Speaker 4: the worst of the ones that we saw.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And that's playing out so far early in the season.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, they're the worst team in the NFL right now,
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  Speaker 2: for sure. I think that's a pretty easy argument to
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  Speaker 2: make right now. I mean, you would have said the Browns.
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  Speaker 2: They've got too much talent to be that bad.
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 5: But look, it all goes back if you're quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: They've got too much talent, but you're talking about like
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  Speaker 2: three people.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, but it's like those three people, yeah.
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  Speaker 7: They're so bad.
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  Speaker 2: Those three people are really, really good. So now your
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  Speaker 2: schedule's a little bit more friendly, and you went through
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  Speaker 2: the week one and two gauntlet, and you did really
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  Speaker 2: damn well. Look, Tyler Shuck. Hats off to you. If
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  Speaker 2: there was any question about him, which I don't really
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  Speaker 2: think there was, but I can tell you if there's
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  Speaker 2: any question nationally, nobody was talking about him.
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  Speaker 5: Going into this season. Nationally, there was.
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  Speaker 4: I remember somebody before the season, they put out something
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  Speaker 4: like teams looking that will be in the quarterback market
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  Speaker 4: in the next draft, and they put.
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  Speaker 5: The Saints on the list. I'm like, are you ignorant?
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  Speaker 2: I think it was Thamel.
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  Speaker 5: No, it wasn't. No way. It could be our guy.
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  Speaker 7: Oh, we got to ask him about it next time
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  Speaker 7: he comes on.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe he was talking about backup.
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  Speaker 5: Had to be.
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  Speaker 2: Had to be. He wasn't talking about our guy. He's
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  Speaker 2: too smart for that. He doesn't buck.
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  Speaker 7: He's got some pretty good backups, too, though.
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  Speaker 4: Because let me, like, I know all the conversation. We'll
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  Speaker 4: see Jackson Dart tonight. And if he has a big
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  Speaker 4: game tonight against the Rams, like, I'll give him his
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  Speaker 4: full credit because he did it against the Cowboys.
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  Speaker 2: He was very efficient.
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  Speaker 4: But, like, okay, so we always joke, like, Flynn and
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  Speaker 4: I were heavy into the card game. Jackson Dart's prices, astronomical.
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  Speaker 4: Tyler Shuck, not even close. Not even remotely close. Shuck
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  Speaker 4: is somebody that, for whatever reason nationally, like people talked
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  Speaker 4: about Shador Sanders more than they talked about Tyler Shuck.
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  Speaker 4: There was somebody who, somebody said something about, I think
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  Speaker 4: it was Jarvis Landry said something about Shador Sanders over
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  Speaker 4: Tyler Shuck.
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, guys, what do we like? No, hold, let
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  Speaker 5: me back up. We didn't miss it.
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  Speaker 4: What are you missing when it comes to Tyler Shuck's game?
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  Speaker 4: And look, even when we were reluctant to like take
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  Speaker 4: Spencer Rattler off the field last year, Because Spencer was
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  Speaker 4: delivering the football.
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  Speaker 5: He was doing things. The plays weren't being made.
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  Speaker 4: And for whatever reason, something happens like this sometimes where
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  Speaker 4: you make a change, a guy comes in, and again,
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  Speaker 4: it's one of his biggest skills, elevates everybody around him.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know what it is. I've seen it happen before.
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  Speaker 4: You can't explain it, but that's what happened. And he
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  Speaker 4: got a chance to watch for eight games or whatever
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  Speaker 4: it was, and he got a chance to see– And
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  Speaker 4: I talked to Tyler Shug off the record about that.
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  Speaker 5: He's like, man, that was big for me. He goes,
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  Speaker 5: do I want to win the job?
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 4: But looking back on it, he's like, there's things that
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  Speaker 4: I saw, I learned, and when I got onto the field,
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  Speaker 4: I felt like I had played, even though I hadn't.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think there's any quarterback in the NFL
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  Speaker 2: that is successful that had to sit early on that
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  Speaker 2: ever has been interviewed and said, man, I wish I
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't have sat. I wish I would have played immediately.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think that's ever happened. I don't think Patrick
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  Speaker 2: Mahomes ever said that. He sat for quite a while.
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  Speaker 2: So there's nothing but good things that can come. And
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  Speaker 2: you're right. He's got the it factor from the aspect
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  Speaker 2: of everybody seems to play. I saw him make a
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  Speaker 2: monster play. I didn't get to watch a lot. I
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  Speaker 2: had to watch little Hammy play soccer yesterday. That won.
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  Speaker 2: Every Sunday won. Don't get to watch much Saints. But
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  Speaker 2: I saw Juwan make a monster play. I break four tackles,
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  Speaker 2: whatever it was, get up the field, and it's just
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  Speaker 2: everybody elevates around him. Hand in the air, I'll admit,
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  Speaker 2: I bought a pretty expensive Tyler Shuck card. Okay? I
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  Speaker 2: bought a pretty good one. Had a comma in it.
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  Speaker 2: But when I bought it.
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  Speaker 7: Was it Saturday night?
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  Speaker 8: No, no, no.
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  Speaker 2: This was in the off season. Okay. Got it graded, too.
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  Speaker 2: Not a big deal. Did it come back to 10?
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  Speaker 2: You'll see when it hits the open market.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I won't be a buyer.
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  Speaker 9: You'll find it on the old electronics bay.
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  Speaker 2: To the point. Electronics bay. It's going to be. The
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  Speaker 2: same Jackson Dart card was purchased for like five times
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  Speaker 2: the value of the Tyler Shuck card. And Shador Sanders
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  Speaker 2: cards were going for a little bit more than Tyler Shuck.
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  Speaker 2: What are what?
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  Speaker 1: What?
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  Speaker 2: What world is this? I mean, I get it. Shador's
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  Speaker 2: a big time pro bowler.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, have you seen this? Yeah, he is.
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  Speaker 9: The Pro Bowl, Shador doesn't.
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  Speaker 2: He will this season. But like the, so, and I
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  Speaker 2: get there's a small market, large market.
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  Speaker 5: Cleveland isn't exactly a metropolis.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, what?
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  Speaker 5: The New York part, yeah. Colorado and Cleveland.
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  Speaker 2: You talking about the mistake by the lake?
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  Speaker 6: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: You talking about the Cleve?
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  Speaker 5: You've been to Cleveland. You know what I'm talking about.
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  Speaker 9: Ew, I don't like that.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: I don't love the cleave.
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  Speaker 7: You know whose play Tyler Shug is really elevating? Or
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  Speaker 7: maybe we just didn't see a lot of him before
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  Speaker 7: is Devon Vele.
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  Speaker 5: He was injured, but yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I think Vele, for sure, it's a good call. Because
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  Speaker 4: he's making some really good contested catches. But I will
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  Speaker 4: say the biggest jump is Jawan Johnson.
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  Speaker 7: Probably because they went to college together.
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  Speaker 5: It's a great point.
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  Speaker 7: They played together at Louisville.
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  Speaker 5: Oregon.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, Oregon.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 10: People wanted him out of the lineup before Tyler Schell
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  Speaker 10: became the starter.
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  Speaker 2: People were like, truly, you don't have a tight end.
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  Speaker 7: I hated Juwan Johnson in his TikTok.
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  Speaker 4: I was so mad at him when he dropped that
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  Speaker 4: one pass that Spencer Rowe threw in the end zone.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 2: Because instead of catching it, he kept slapping it.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: He was like, no, Spencer, no.
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  Speaker 6: No.
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  Speaker 2: We don't get out of here, Paul. I want Tyler.
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  Speaker 7: Did we just figure it out?
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  Speaker 5: Oh, maybe I was.
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  Speaker 3: Jawan was sabotaging Spencer to get his boy Tyler in.
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  Speaker 5: That's what it was. He knew.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe he knew the whole time.
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  Speaker 9: They might have beef, too.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe. Yeah, that's true. A lot of beef out there.
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  Speaker 3: Get out of here.
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  Speaker 2: Get out of here, Paul. A lot of hate in
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  Speaker 2: the off-season season.
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  Speaker 10: Towards Chris Alave, and I want any Saints fan right
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  Speaker 10: now to find me 10 receivers in the NFL that
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  Speaker 10: are better and playing better currently than Chris Alave because
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  Speaker 10: there's not any.
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  Speaker 5: I don't remember who it was here.
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  Speaker 4: I don't remember, so I don't want to say any names,
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  Speaker 4: but somebody was talking about Chris Alave and kind of
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  Speaker 4: what he was and.
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  Speaker 2: What he could be.
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  Speaker 7: I wasn't on the Alave pay him six-rank wide receiver
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  Speaker 7: money train until Ross convinced me.
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  Speaker 5: The deal was his injuries. In injuries, he couldn't help.
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  Speaker 4: Concussions, and blood clots. That's what makes you a little
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  Speaker 4: bit nervous. And, look, he elevated his game past the
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  Speaker 4: point where I thought he could. He is no doubt.
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  Speaker 5: A number one receiver. There's no question about it.
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  Speaker 4: He runs every route with authority, and he's competitive in
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  Speaker 4: every route. And what I mean by that is it
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  Speaker 4: doesn't matter what the route is, what the route calls for,
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  Speaker 4: he's competitive. If it is a whip route, he's whipping
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  Speaker 4: the thing. If it is a hitch route, he's hitching
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  Speaker 4: it like it hadn't been hitched before. Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: He hitching that thing.
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  Speaker 4: And there's so many receivers, and Matt can speak on
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  Speaker 4: this way better than I can. There's some receivers that
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  Speaker 4: are number one receivers that they only want the post.
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  Speaker 5: They only want the corner.
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  Speaker 4: They only want the 18-yard dig route. They only want
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  Speaker 4: the go route. That man is competitive in a drag route.
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  Speaker 4: It doesn't matter what you ask him to do. He's
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  Speaker 4: going to run it like a number one receiver should.
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  Speaker 2: And look, I think a lot of the– You know,
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  Speaker 2: hand in the air as far as probably not giving
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  Speaker 2: him the flowers he deserved in the offseason. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: we did a– First time he's had a good– We
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  Speaker 2: did a whole– We did a tier list on number
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  Speaker 2: one receivers.
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  Speaker 7: And I was like, no.
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  Speaker 2: Here on the show. And we're like, yeah. I can't
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  Speaker 2: remember what tier we put him, but as far as
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  Speaker 2: like– I think B.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it was B.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah. B.
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  Speaker 2: That's not bad, but probably not. I think right now
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  Speaker 2: we'd probably put him A.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Not S, but A. Not S, but A.
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  Speaker 9: How many receivers right now are playing better than Chris Olave?
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  Speaker 2: Playing better than him. Five, maybe. Five, yeah. I mean, JSN, awesome.
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  Speaker 2: Good Lord. Jordan Jefferson. Yeah, Jefferson's been good.
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  Speaker 9: Jamar would better.
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  Speaker 5: This week than last. I'm going to say that Alave's
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  Speaker 5: played top five.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: You can have whatever name you want to, and you
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  Speaker 5: can insert it.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: But he's played as a top five receiver.
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  Speaker 2: Statistically, yeah.
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  Speaker 5: He's second in the NFL right now.
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  Speaker 4: Receiving yards he's doing great he's only second to jsn.
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  Speaker 2: And tyler shuck is number one in passing yards in
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  Speaker 2: the nfl with.
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  Speaker 10: 662 five incompletions like when targeting a lave through two
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  Speaker 10: weeks five incompletions like i saw coming in the chat
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  Speaker 10: earlier i'm so tired of hearing this because it's a
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  Speaker 10: talking point that one person brought up and he just
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  Speaker 10: kept going like in the chat he goes devon vele
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  Speaker 10: is our number one he makes contested catches when a.
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  Speaker 9: Lave doesn't first off Somebody said that today.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 10: In the chat a couple minutes ago said, first off,
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  Speaker 10: he made multiple contested catches week one, set up the
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  Speaker 10: 42 yarder to lead the comeback last week, scored your
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  Speaker 10: first touchdown to tie it this week.
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  Speaker 9: What big plays is Chris?
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  Speaker 2: I love it.
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  Speaker 9: Not making, and he's routing people up. So he's open
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  Speaker 9: all the damn time.
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  Speaker 5: He's very smooth in his route. So he's your number
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  Speaker 5: one receiver. Look, Bailey's awesome. Bailey's there for that.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Bailey's there for contested catches his size. Like that's, that's
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  Speaker 4: what he's there for. That's going to be his skillset. Like,
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  Speaker 4: We were watching the reverse scissors from the end zone
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  Speaker 4: copy that they scored on in the red zone. It
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  Speaker 4: was an incredible throw by Tyler Shuck. But when you
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  Speaker 4: run something like that, there's a smoothness and a timing
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  Speaker 4: of finding that window. And what Chris Alave does really well,
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  Speaker 4: and when I say he's competitive in every route, every
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  Speaker 4: route doesn't call for you to put it in third
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: and try as hard as you can and run as
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: fast as you can. No, no. There's routes where you
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: have to be smooth and you have to understand coverage
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: and you have to know which speed to run your route.
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: So you find yourself into that window. That's being competitive.
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: Being non-competitive is just running. Like it's drawn on the
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: piece of paper, full speed. That's non-competitive. Go back and
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: watch the, we'll pull it up today.
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: There's a difference between being a good route runner and
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: a good football player. Yes. And he's a very good
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: football player. And again, like that route right there, you
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: talk about the timing and the kind of, and I
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: spoke on this in hour one about LSU and the
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: timing of the footwork does not matching up. The footwork's
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: not matching up with the routes. Well, like, play like
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: that the reverse scissors that we talked about like it
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: could be one run at a different speed against single
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: high and you get too high and it's run at
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: a different speed but everybody's on the same page and
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: that's a lot of times that's the difference between an
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: offense that has been together for a little while receivers
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: and quarterbacks that have been together but also just a
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: high football IQ and being smooth with.
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: It let's do this let's step away when we come
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: back I'll see if I can find that I'm sure
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: somebody's cut that up already online we'll show exactly what
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: we're talking about we'll continue talking A little NFL, talk
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: a little Saints, what they have coming up next and
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: what it is going to look like for them to
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: actually play a home game after starting on the road
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: in Detroit, in Baltimore. I'm sure the Superdome is going
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: to be turned up to an 11. We'll do that
• 17:12
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  Speaker 1: Off the Bench with Hester and Flynn. Presented by Bayou Automotive.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: No, you don't gotta pretend. Baby, now I'm in.
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  Speaker 9: Don't you just wanna wake.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: Up dark as a lake?
• 19:09
  Speaker 6: Spilling like a bonfire, lost in the haze. You're too
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  Speaker 6: sweet for me. You're too sweet for me.
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  Speaker 3: I take my whiskey in. My coffee's black and my
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: bed is green.
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  Speaker 6: You're too sweet for me.
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: All right, welcome back in.
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: OTB here live from the Raising Gain Studio. Monday shows
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  Speaker 2: Vroom, vroom.
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: We're going to pull up that Chris Olave play here
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: coming up in a second. But just, again, what a
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: statement victory it was for the New Orleans Saints to
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: not only beat a good team, but to go on
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: the road. And beat a good team. And yet again,
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: be down and find a way to come back in
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: the game. Now, they want to get that fixed, obviously.
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: You don't want to get down to the Lions and
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: the Ravens. And we saw them get down to the Lions,
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: and they fell just short. Made a great comeback. And
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: you want to figure out how to start games fast.
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: And you've got to get better at that. Like, the
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: Saints haven't led in the first quarter since Moby Dick
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: was a minnow. They're about to set an NFL record, actually.
• 20:34
  Speaker 6: Mm-hmm.
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: So you want to start fast. You got to get
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: that figured out. But you love the fight. You love
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: the way that they don't blink. I've played in that
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: stadium that they just went on the road. It's not
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: an easy one to go to. It's not a good
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: franchise to do that to. I don't care who's playing.
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: They always are ready to go in that stadium. That's
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: a good football team that you just went on the
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: road and beat. And now you get a chance to
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: come home in your own stadium. And a team that's 2-0,
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: but a game in which you're going to be favored
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: for the first time probably.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: All year long.
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: In your first two games, you've been more than a
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: touchdown dog.
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: You lost one in overtime, and you won the other one.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was watching the game, and I was like,
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: oh man, Derrick Henry's about to have another one. Another
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: one of these two, three touchdown games. He scored, what,
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: it was the first possession of the game? I was like,
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: oh gosh, it's going to be.
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: A long one.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: Tyler Shuck better have a day, and he did. And
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: they ended up shutting him down, and not letting him
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: break loose much after that. So, What a great win, man.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: It was fantastic. And, again, you make it through the gauntlet.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: The Saints do. You make it out 1-1. And, again,
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: a 62-yard field goal away from being 2-0 on the
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: road versus two very good future playoff teams.
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: You are a three-point favorite right now at home against
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: the Raiders there.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: Three-point? Three-point favorite.
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: Hammer.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: Against the Raiders.
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: All right, here's the play.
• 21:56
  Speaker 6: Only three?
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: Here's a play that we were talking about with Chris
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: Alave in the red zone, and it's a great throw
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: by Tyler Shuck. But just to show you what we're
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: talking about. All right, so Alave is in motion on
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: this play, and it's the one, if you're listening to
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: us on radio, that it was in the red area.
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: I think it was on the 19-yard line, and it
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: was just a reverse scissor.
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: So you have a corner route. Underneath that is a
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: post route.
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: But watch what we're talking about when we say Chris
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: Alave runs the speed, the route, Like he's supposed to
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: and not just running as fast as he can.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: He's jogging right now. Then he just.
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: Finds his way into the coverage. Look, he's not running
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: full speed. He never really runs full speed. That's not
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: what the route calls for. The route calls for you
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: to allow the corner route to do what it's supposed
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: to do, which it did. And as soon as you
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: got the DB's shoulders turn, which the corner route did.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: Watch here.
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: Turn. Too late. He never ran full speed. He never accelerated.
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: He didn't have to.
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: He knew exactly what the route called for. Tyler Shuck
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: threw it really before he even broke out. As soon
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: as the shoulders get turned there, you got him. That's
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: what a top receiver looks like. Understanding how to run
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: that route into that coverage. It's a quarterback that is
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: on the same page with his number one receiver, and it's.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: A thing of beauty. A lot of teams do this
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: in the red zone. This is quarters covers. I'll call
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: it red seven, red four, whatever it is. A lot
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: of people play it in the red zone because it
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: is a good run defeater, and you can double some guys,
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: and you don't have to really worry about it in
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: the red zone getting beat over the top. This is
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: a reverse scissor. This is a beautiful way to attack
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: red zone quarters because it's understanding the safeties. Check this out. Oh,
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: I brought the pointer. As soon as number two, he
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: becomes number two. As soon as he releases vertical... The
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: safety looks him up. Now, if number two goes to
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: the flat or goes across, he starts doubling number one.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: But as soon as he goes vertical, he's got him. Now,
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: normal scissors action is a post first, corner second, right? Well,
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: they go corner first, post underneath. So what that does,
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: and especially doing it from a motion and an off position,
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: Olave is off the line of scrimmage when he runs
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: his post. Um, number two releases vertical. So because of
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: the rules, because the saints are in film study and
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: game plan, and they understand they're probably going to get
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: quarters in this, this down a distance in this area
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: of the field. As soon as number one, who's running
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: the corner releases first, the safety's got them. Yeah. Now,
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: if they ran normal, traditional post corner, they would end
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: up passing it off because the corner is number two. Yeah.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: So now that he's number one, the safety's got them.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: And it's a beautiful way to be quarters. in the
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: red zone like that, bring in– and, like, if this was, like,
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: Tampa 2 or something, you'd have a Mike Linebacker to
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: worry about deep like that. It'd be a different type
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: of throw. But this is as easy to get as
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: this pitch and catch. And, again, like you said, they
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: understand the concept. They understand the route. They've talked about it.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: They have high football IQ. Hey, how about good footwork
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: from a quarterback? Live around time. Touchdown, good guys.
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: There was– Multiple times, so not just one.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: This is great game plan in offensive coaching. This is
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: offensive 101 coaching tape. You understand what they're going to do.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: You know their tendencies. And then guess what? Backside, they
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: had answers versus other coverages. Now, this is still going
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: to be a decent route against if you get another
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: type of coverage, but you have other answers.
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: There was multiple times in this game, too, where Tyler
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: Shuck stood tall in the pocket, stepped up, knew he
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: was going to take a hit and still deliver the football.
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: kind of blend both of our conversations we've had today,
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: that's something Sam Levitt is.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: Going to have to do.
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: There was one pass where he tried to kind of
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: jump out of the way, had both feet out of
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: the air, and tried to deliver to an open receiver.
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: That's just never going to happen. But if you understand,
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: I'm going to take a shot. It's going to hurt.
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: I'm going to take a shot. But if I do,
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: I can deliver the football well. on time, where it's
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: supposed to go, and it's going to be a completion.
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: And look, we know Sam's not afraid of contact. He
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: runs the ball and.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: Puts his shoulder down all the time.
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: But sometimes, and Matt, again, another thing that you can
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: speak to way better than anybody here, you have to understand,
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: I am going to take a shot. But if I
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: set my feet and use my legs and deliver the
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: football instead of trying to not avoid contact, but try
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: to avoid the defender by jumping up and trying to
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: throw the football with, Neither feet, not one of them
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: on the ground, it's going to be a tough.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: Throw for anybody. Just remember, when you're competing and you've
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: got adrenaline flowing, it doesn't hurt that bad. That's true.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: It hurts. That's true, too. Pain is temporary, but glory
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: lasts forever.
• 26:51
  Speaker 7: And it's weakness leaving the body, so just let it happen.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Is that Gene Hackman?
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: Weakness leaving the body. What doesn't kill you makes you?
• 26:57
  Speaker 7: Stronger.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: Shout out Kelly Clarkson. That's Kelly Clarkson. That is true.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, just get it, you know?
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: It's true.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: It really does. I mean, it does hurt.
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: Not in the moment, though.
• 27:07
  Speaker 7: Only for a second.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: Sometimes. Sometimes. If you get hit clean, it doesn't hurt
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: as bad. Yeah.
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: You get those weird shots, then it hurts. Helmet to
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: the thigh is usually the only one.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: And guess what? If they spear you, you get 15 yards.
• 27:22
  Speaker 7: If you're going to use that pointer, it needs to
• 27:24
  Speaker 7: be a little bigger. It's tiny. I can't really see.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: What you're pointing. I'm going to tell you, though. Right
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: here on the one shot, Matt.
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: It's the lighting.
• 27:30
  Speaker 6: Real funny.
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: It's the T-Bob size pointer.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: I think my pointer's okay.
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: You want to hear my.
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: It's so funny when something happens to the team that
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: you're rooting for. When DB went low on Trey Dez
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: and hit him in the knee, I started thinking, as
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: an offensive player, because this is how offensive guys think,
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: I was like, you know what? If I blocked a
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: defender there at that portion of the field, I'd get
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: 15 yards.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: But they can You can tackle low. In fairness, that
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: DB might have been tackling at his normal height.
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: I'm not even saying, like, get rid of that because
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: it's football.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: It's a violent sport.
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: But I'm like, don't get mad if, like, if we
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: run stretch or a boss play and I'm up on
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: the strong safety in the alley and I cut him.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: You can't cut anymore? Not that far.
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: Not outside the box, no.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: We've gotten so soft as a country.
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: Oh, I would not have a career. On boss plays?
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: I'm helping the tight end, helping the tight end, then
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: I'm cutting late.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: You're so tiny and impossibly wide. I mean, of course
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: you were going to cut.
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: I'm not staying up with you. What am I, dumb-dumb?
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: All right, we'll take a break.
• 28:43
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  Speaker 2: the world. And maybe even outer space. To the moon?
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  Speaker 2: To the Mars. Any Starbase updates?
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• 31:50
  Speaker 2: Is it ready to go? Is it fully made yet?
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  Speaker 7: I don't think so.
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: No?
• 31:56
  Speaker 7: But I think that might take a while.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: They didn't cut the ribbon yet? Not yet.
• 32:01
  Speaker 9: It's like it's been a week.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, man. What are we doing?
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  Speaker 7: I thought Elon was supposed to be like super smart
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  Speaker 7: or something.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: Sweet-ass media came out a couple weeks ago. But there's
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  Speaker 2: talking about, yeah, talking about all smart guys and gals.
• 32:25
  Speaker 7: I can't imagine somebody my age building something that's going
• 32:27
  Speaker 7: to go to space. I don't have my life together
• 32:31
  Speaker 7: at all.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: I know y'all got problems with the coastline around here.
• 32:36
  Speaker 7: Let's use up more of it.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: I'm 28. I think it'll be fine.
• 32:39
  Speaker 7: I'm 28.
• 32:39
  Speaker 9: I should worry about it more than you anyway.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: We're good. We should invest.
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: All right. Real quick.
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: Something that, look, we got to do with the breakdown
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: of the game. Tay-Tay, you're going to give us a
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: little LSU injury update. There were some guys that went down.
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: Some better news than I think that we thought. Certainly
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: some bad news when it comes to the injury update
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: for LSU as they get ready for Texas A &
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: M this weekend.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll do the good news first.
• 33:10
  Speaker 9: Get a little positivity going.
• 33:12
  Speaker 10: Trades Green's mother actually confirmed on Facebook yesterday that Trades
• 33:16
  Speaker 10: did not tear anything. Looks like an MCL sprain, something
• 33:21
  Speaker 10: along those lines. She said sprains, bruises, no surgery needed, though.
• 33:24
  Speaker 10: So Trades Green, hopefully, maybe out, what, three to four weeks,
• 33:29
  Speaker 10: should be back after that. The not-so-good news, both Deshaun
• 33:32
  Speaker 10: Spears and Phillip Wright will miss the remainder of the season.
• 33:35
  Speaker 9: Deshaun Spears did tear his knee. over the weekend.
• 33:39
  Speaker 10: And then Phillip Wright, he actually missed the game. He
• 33:41
  Speaker 10: was ruled out really when that infamous injury report came
• 33:45
  Speaker 10: out on Wednesday, he was already ruled out. He suffered
• 33:47
  Speaker 10: a leg injury against Louisiana tech. He is out for
• 33:50
  Speaker 10: the year as well. So no Phillip Wright and Spears
• 33:52
  Speaker 10: for the remainder of the season.
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: Spears is going to hurt. He's a really good football player.
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: LSU did some different things. It wasn't every play, but
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: they moved to Marcus Cooley to the nickel position. And he,
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: you know, You move a different safety in there. Jace
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: came in. He played some safety. Probably your best, I think,
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: path moving forward is to keep Tamarcus there, star, nickel,
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: whatever you want to call it.
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: It's a loss.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: I mean, Spears is a good player that can do
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: a lot of different things. He can rush off the edge.
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: I mean, we've seen him do that. Really good in
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: run support. I'm not going to sit here and tell
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: you that it's all good.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: It's a loss.
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: Anytime you lose a starter like that, it's a loss
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: because now you've got to have the Rubik's Cube out
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: and you've got to try to turn it and twist
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: it to see which formula is going to work to
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: be able to solve it.
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: So it's going to be one that we have to
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: see how they attack it.
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: In this game, again, like I said, the way that
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: they did it was they kind of moved a couple
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: of different pieces around. And so it might not be
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: just one look. It might be depending on the situation.
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: It might be depending on a lot of different things.
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: But from what I saw, Jace Thomas went to free safety.
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: Demarcus Cooley went to the star position.
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: And that's how they kind of attacked it.
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: I'm trying to think right now, as I'm looking at it,
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: I'm trying to think what LSU is going to do.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: At tight end.
• 35:28
  Speaker 7: Don't have a lot of depth.
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: Zach Grace is more of like an H-back. Like, he
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: looks like somebody that can play some fullback, play some
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: tight end.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: Wait, what did you call an H-back again? What's an
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: H-back to you?
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: An F.
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: Well, no, I mean, like an F's like more of
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: like a fullback. But, I mean, in a lot of
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: offenses I played in, like the H-back was going to
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: be an F.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that was a serious question for my
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: side because I never had an H-back. I know I
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: made fun of you one time for the different positions.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: That was a real question. I don't know what people
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: consider an H-back.
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: Like a hybrid, like tied-in, full-back. Not a Y tied-in,
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: not a straight yackle, but also not.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: A trade-in screen.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: You have Malachi Thomas. And you consider a Y like
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: a blocker?
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 36:23
  Speaker 10: You have Malachi Thomas. Are you brought over from Pitt? However,
• 36:26
  Speaker 10: he called 13 passes a year ago for Pitt. I mean,
• 36:28
  Speaker 10: that's kind of your most experienced guy after Trey does green.
• 36:33
  Speaker 10: Roman Mothershed, probably an option, number 82. He's 6'5, and
• 36:38
  Speaker 10: he was a receiver in the spring, but they moved
• 36:39
  Speaker 10: him to tight end in the fall to try to
• 36:42
  Speaker 10: potentially get him on the field because you have a
• 36:44
  Speaker 10: lot of mouths to feed over there, receivers. So maybe
• 36:47
  Speaker 10: Mothershed's an option.
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: He came in the game at the very end. He
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: was the crosser that the ball should have gone to him.
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: We're still trying to figure out if he was throwing
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: the shallow or the deep cross on the last play
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: of the game.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: I think the, of course, what we've seen, we've seen
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: Trey does be the go-to guy on when you need it.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: Third and whatever you need. He's been that guy. But
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: more so, like, he has popped to me in the
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: running game. Like, his blocking has been so improved this season.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: And there was a lot said about that in the offseason. Like,
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: how is he going to handle this? Well, I mean,
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: he showed you early and often. in that Clemson game.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: And since then, how much he has improved and what
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: a willing blocker he's been. So, and that makes a
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: difference on his ability to get open over the middle
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: is because his willingness to block. So they'd never really
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: know what he's going to do. Like pre-snap, the defense
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: isn't going to know if trade has his block in,
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: or is he going to going out on the route?
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: And that helps him. That's what good tight ends do.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: That helps him get open.
• 37:50
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: It helps him make blocks. Now, now you kind of
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: got to, Mix and match a little bit. You might
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: have one guy coming in there that you know there's
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: a real good chance he's blocking. Another guy coming in there,
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: you know there's probably a real good chance he's running
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: a pass route. That's what we're going to miss the most.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: And people say, how's Trey Does getting over so much? Well,
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: I got it. He's great. He's 6'7, and he's athletic.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: Trey Does is not the greatest route runner in the world.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: He's just athletic, gets to his spots, and he can
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: do a lot of different things. So you can't just
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: tee off on him. You can't key him. because of
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: his willingness for one, his willingness to block, and two,
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: of course, the body size and just like the gifts
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: that God gave to him. So now you do. It's
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: going to be a challenge, but, you know, it's a
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: challenge for the coaches, but, you know, they're pretty good.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: Coaches are pretty good, pretty good on offense. They're going
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: to figure it out. I'm not worried about it. It's
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: just trying to figure out how it'll be interesting to
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: see in that first half versus Texas A & M
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: this week how they are planning to go about losing him.
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, tight end is a big portion of this offense.
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: I mean, all jokes aside, like Daquan Wright, what he
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: was to Ole Miss last year. Big time, prime time
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: player for them.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: We could use him. You could. Taylor made that joke
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: in the chat this weekend.
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: Tradez, obviously, like there's a lot of the offense that
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: kind of goes through that position.
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: And again, like Grace is a fullback slash tight end
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: type body type.
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: I think it's going to take somebody different. And so,
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: how they utilize that position in this game. Because it's
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: going to be 11 personnel, I would assume.
• 39:23
  Speaker 5: They're not going to go to 10 personnel. It's going
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: to be 11 personnel.
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: It's what they're going to be, how they handle that,
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: and how they draw it up. There's going to have
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: to be some heavy lifting by the coaching staff to
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: try to figure out that production piece that you're missing.
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: And it depends.
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: I don't know the grade sprain of the MCL that
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: Tredez has either. Like a grade one, if it's mild,
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: it's usually one to three weeks. If it's a grade two,
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: if you had like any kind of partial tear, it
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: would be four to six weeks. And then obviously if
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: you had a complete tear, we're talking about something completely different.
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: We're talking about months that you would be off there.
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: It's not the ACL, it's the MCL. So my best
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: guess is three weeks. We don't know that. Let's see
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: what that timetable looks like. He's not playing this week.
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: That we can promise you. Like when you have an
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: MCL sprain, you can be the toughest guy in the world.
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: You can't go out there and you can't do it.
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: Could it be three weeks? I think that's the best
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: case scenario for LSU. And that would put Trey Dez
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: out the Texas A & M game, the McNeese game,
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: and the at Kentucky game. It would bring him back
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: against Mississippi State on the 17th of October.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: It seems like a lot of the games that we
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: were hoping would kind of be some feel-good wins on
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: the schedule. Oh, Kentucky, Mississippi State. There's some– Teams playing
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: a little bit over their skis right now. At least
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: we thought they were going to be. So it is
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: going to be a tough schedule, and we need everybody
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: all hands on deck. But, look, I mean, it's one game. Like,
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: one game against a really good Ole Miss team. So
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: I'm confident. I know that this team is going to
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: continue to get better. I think Lane said it after
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: the game. Like, we're through week three, and it feels
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: like it's been a long season already. So, like, we
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: got past the one, like, game that had the bullseye
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: on it, right? We're past that. Now settle in, take
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: a deep breath, realize there's a lot of season. You
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: can still accomplish any goal that you have. Now you've
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: got to get better. Of course, you've got to improve.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: You've got to make some different plays. But there is
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: a good foundation on this team. And, again, we've gone
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: through three games under the Lane Kiffin era. Like, they're
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: going to get better. Sam Leavitt, you've got to get
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: a little bit better. You can make the crazy plays.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: We got it. Now you've just got to make the
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: basic plays. So there's a lot to improve in figuring
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: out how to replace– trade is and how long you're
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: going to have to do that is going to be
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: a big going to play a big factor.
• 41:49
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• 43:10
  Speaker 1: Off the Bench with Hester and Flynn, presented by Bayou Automotive.
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: All right, welcome back in OTB. Here live from the
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: Razor Cane Studio. Your next opponent for the LSU Tigers
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: is number 23, Texas.
• 43:30
  Speaker 5: A & M, coming to town right now.
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: ESPN matchup predictor gives LSU a 62.8% chance to win
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: this game. The line in this game, it opened up
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: early at 3, like earlier in the year.
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: It's now up to 9.5 for LSU.
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: Minus 9.5 for LSU right now, and that's at minus 118.
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: That's what happens when you lose to Kentucky.
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: Kentucky beat A & M 31-21 over the weekend in
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: College Station.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: Some of the stats of that game.
• 44:06
  Speaker 5: Well, Kentucky, by the way, they're kind of big boys.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: It is.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: Texas A & M up front.
• 44:10
  Speaker 5: I didn't watch that game.
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: Which was, you know, the thing that was surprising. Now,
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: A & M made a run. A & M made
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: a run in the fourth quarter to make it close.
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: Kentucky outscored A & M 21 to nothing in the
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: third quarter. So, Kenny Minchey was 14 of 18, 252 yards,
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: 14 yards per attempt, two touchdowns, no interceptions. Kentucky had
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: a day running the football, too. They committed to it.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: 156 yards on 36 carries.
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: For Texas A & M, they threw 49 passes. Marcel Reed,
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: 26 of 49. 236, 4.8 yards per attempt, one touchdown,
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: two interceptions. Texas A & M did have success running
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: the football with Reed. He had 10 carries for 80 yards,
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: had a 40-yard run. They had 35 carries for 187 yards.
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: But Marcel Reed was not.
• 45:04
  Speaker 9: It doesn't matter. If he goes off against LSU, I'm
• 45:07
  Speaker 9: going to lose my mind.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. He's going to have a.
• 45:09
  Speaker 7: The best game of his entire life.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: My entire existence.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: Oh, man.
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: Something about LSU.
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: Kentucky didn't have a sack on defense either, so it's
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: not like they got after him that way. Right.
• 45:20
  Speaker 7: Did Joe Sloan suddenly just.
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: What a.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: Glow-up, huh? Mm-hmm.
• 45:24
  Speaker 7: He just had to go to Kentucky, I guess.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: I did see them run a couple wide receiver screens.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: I did, too.
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: I saw many inside zones.
• 45:32
  Speaker 5: Many inside zones. Look, congrats to Kentucky for putting a
• 45:35
  Speaker 5: hell of a game plan together, though.
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: And, again, they were the first... the physical bunch. Like,
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: they were the aggressor in this matchup for a large
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: majority of it. Now, A & M did fight back
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: in the fourth quarter. It looked like they were leaning
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: on Kentucky a little bit, but it was already too
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: late at that point. It's going to be an interesting
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: game to see how both teams come out after a loss.
• 45:55
  Speaker 5: One at home to Kentucky, one on the road to
• 45:56
  Speaker 5: Ole Miss.
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: It does go to show you that.
• 45:58
  Speaker 5: A lot on the line Saturday in Tiger Stadium. That
• 46:01
  Speaker 5: with the.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: With that probability, with the game line shifting and LSU
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: only dropping three spots, it is showing you that nationally
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: people are respecting the loss a little bit and giving
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: a lot of respect to Ole Miss and what LSU did,
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: you know, losing that much, but having a chance to
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: at least tie the game at the end. That is
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: a sign of respect from the national level is what
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: LSU is getting. So they're still remembering the good things
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: that were done by LSU in the first two weeks.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: So remember that as LSU fans this week. Don't get
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: too sad just yet.
• 46:33
  Speaker 7: A lot of season left.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: A lot of season left. A lot of football to
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: be played.
• 46:36
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