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Staff Picks - Popcorn (1991) · Beyond The Blood: A Horror Movie Commentary Podcast

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  Speaker 1: You are now listening to the Someone's Favorite Productions podcast network.
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  Speaker 2: When The Beyond came out on four K hmm, I
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  Speaker 2: was very excited to get it, and I threw it
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  Speaker 2: on one night and I think you were getting ready
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  Speaker 2: for bed, and it was the very beginning of the
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  Speaker 2: movie the uh you know, like the colonial attack scene
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  Speaker 2: and she's getting ready for This.
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  Speaker 3: Is how well I can remember movies I saw. I'm
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  Speaker 3: telling you, I was a child. Shouldn't have been watching it.
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  Speaker 3: I know my dad and brother were in the room.
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  Speaker 3: I recognized this movie being in the bathroom, just hearing
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  Speaker 3: certain things.
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  Speaker 2: It's the whip, the when when they're whipping him with
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  Speaker 2: the chain and ripping the skin.
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  Speaker 4: Off and she comes down snarly.
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  Speaker 2: Dude, she has been telling me about the scene that's
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  Speaker 2: been in her head and she cannot figure out the
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  Speaker 2: name of it forever, and it scared me. It turns out
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  Speaker 2: it was The Beyond.
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  Speaker 4: That Where did you? Where did you see that?
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  Speaker 3: My well, I'm telling you my three I have three
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  Speaker 3: older brothers, and the two oldest are very All three
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  Speaker 3: of them are into movies, but the two oldest ones
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  Speaker 3: are really into horror. Okay, I'm ninety nine, percent sure.
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  Speaker 3: It was my oldest brother, the one who let me
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  Speaker 3: watch popcorn, and I remember my dad being in the room,
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  Speaker 3: and I just remember being so grossed out because I
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  Speaker 3: remember the whip hitting and the skin coming off, and
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  Speaker 3: then them throwing like I described it to him as
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  Speaker 3: I remember a guy getting whipped in a basement. I
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  Speaker 3: remember it was not black and white, but it was
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  Speaker 3: like like a yellow owned color like in the film.
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  Speaker 3: I said, there was. They also threw what looked like
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  Speaker 3: I said Sand. I said, they threw something on him
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  Speaker 3: and it started melting him. Well, turns out, seeing that again,
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  Speaker 3: the reason why I got sand was because of his
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  Speaker 3: appearance after the fact when he melts so like they
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  Speaker 3: threw that on him. And then he kept watching and
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  Speaker 3: the scene in the library with the spiders happened, and
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  Speaker 3: I said, I.
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  Speaker 5: Remember this fucking scene too. I'm like, I remember this.
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  Speaker 5: I'm like I.
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  Speaker 3: I was so happy because I had been telling him
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  Speaker 3: since we met, there is a movie.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know what it is.
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  Speaker 3: I remember this distinct like scene, and I I have
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  Speaker 3: never known what it was.
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  Speaker 5: I had described it to you and you didn't put
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  Speaker 5: the other put it together.
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  Speaker 3: And then he put it on and I'm telling you,
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  Speaker 3: as soon as I heard that noise and like the
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  Speaker 3: music and the screaming, I came out and I said,
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  Speaker 3: this is it?
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  Speaker 2: Like middle of brushing her teeth, walked down. I was
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  Speaker 2: just standing like at the exit of our hallway where
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  Speaker 2: you can see the TV. And she's like, this is
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  Speaker 2: it I found.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's like Nightmare of fuel as is,
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  Speaker 4: and now you get to experience it in four k.
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  Speaker 5: It's just crazy. That was.
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  Speaker 3: That was very satisfying though for me, because when I
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  Speaker 3: was I mean, I told my dad after we figured
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  Speaker 3: it out, I said, Dad, this is what the scene was.
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  Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure you were there, and I'm pretty sure
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  Speaker 3: I shouldn't have been in the room watching this.
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  Speaker 2: I was small enough, That's what I asked. I was
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  Speaker 2: like years ago, like who, Like, I didn't find the
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  Speaker 2: Beyond at an age where I couldn't remember it. I
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  Speaker 2: found the Beyond like way, Well, it's true.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, my oldest brother is forty two.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I'm thirty one, so my oldest brother, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I'm I'm ninety nine percent sure it was him and
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  Speaker 3: my dad. My parents have always been into horror, you know,
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  Speaker 3: It's not so much my dad, my mom, and they
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  Speaker 3: were just a huge movie family. My aunts and my
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  Speaker 3: uncle is like all of us love movies so much.
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  Speaker 3: And yeah, so my dad was saying like, yeah, where
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  Speaker 3: where was I'm like, well, clearly in the room, like
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  Speaker 3: you were in the room, and just I guess only
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  Speaker 3: after that scene made me leave. But it's like, well,
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  Speaker 3: how did I see the library? So I clearly had
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  Speaker 3: those two scenes must have stood out in what I
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  Speaker 3: was when I was there watching it. Those were the
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  Speaker 3: two that stuck with me.
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  Speaker 2: But arguably those are the two nastiest scenes of the
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  Speaker 2: movie anyway. I mean, yeah, the only scene that bothers
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  Speaker 2: me more than those is the dog attack, just because
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  Speaker 2: I like animal attack stuff. It just it gets to
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  Speaker 2: me in a different way.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know, because I think for most of us
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  Speaker 4: it's like, well, I mean you see it in movies,
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  Speaker 4: and it's usually very unexpected. Yeah, it's just very visceral.
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  Speaker 4: It's uncomfortable. I mean, you know, especially with like dogs,
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  Speaker 4: you know, you're you're supposed to feel safe with them.
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  Speaker 4: So when you kind of see everything kind of you know,
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  Speaker 4: flipped upside down.
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  Speaker 2: Well, she she saw nothing to be.
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  Speaker 3: And it's usually it's usually fast like those, they're very
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  Speaker 3: fast and they're usually pretty aggressive.
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  Speaker 2: So she's also blind.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, but that's even scarier.
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  Speaker 4: I see what you did. I see what you did there.
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  Speaker 4: I mean that's yeah, that is scarier.
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  Speaker 5: That is terrifying.
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  Speaker 3: She had no idea, but I yeah, that all of
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  Speaker 3: that came rushing back when you watched it. And I
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  Speaker 3: kept coming out intermittently just seeing different scenes, and I
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  Speaker 3: was like, I watched this. I think I watched it
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  Speaker 3: in its entirety, because even the dog scene looked familiar.
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  Speaker 2: To I think. Now tonight, you have to sit down
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  Speaker 2: and watch it.
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  Speaker 4: No, no, no, we insist.
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  Speaker 3: I'm telling you that that part in the beginning, however,
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  Speaker 3: they did that with the special effects, the whip with
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  Speaker 3: the skin coming off like that, like it. It just
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  Speaker 3: looks so incredibly painful. And I'm not squeamish at all.
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  Speaker 3: I can watch a lot of different kinds of movies,
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  Speaker 3: but that was something else, and I guess being somewhat
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  Speaker 3: scarred enough that it was ingrained.
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  Speaker 5: In my brain.
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  Speaker 4: Now hold up, let me ask, is that dog scene
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  Speaker 4: worse or where evil lurks you'll see I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Talking about Yeah, but you don't see much the shock
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  Speaker 2: in when Evil Lurks is the grab you know, like
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  Speaker 2: when sorry bad Yeah, and when Evil Lurks, if I
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  Speaker 2: remember correctly, you don't actually see him kill her. He
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  Speaker 2: just grabs her, right and then they runs off with
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  Speaker 2: her or does he on attack her? I can't remember.
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  Speaker 3: I thought he grabbed and then like and might have
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  Speaker 3: I thought he grabbed them maybe shook if anything.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, Like it's fast. It's a fast scene. It's not.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really quick, but you I I think the
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  Speaker 3: reason why I like probably that in that moment is
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  Speaker 3: because it's leaving it up to you to establish what
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  Speaker 3: just happened. Yeah, And like in the Beyond, it's you're
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  Speaker 3: seeing it and it's very like scary. Is scary, but
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  Speaker 3: like seeing it happen so quickly, and it's a young child,
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  Speaker 3: Like so it's a young kid, isn't that so?
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  Speaker 2: Well the Beyond it's the build up of something because
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  Speaker 2: when when when she begins kind of noticing the spirits
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  Speaker 2: around her popping up around her, you know something's going
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  Speaker 2: to happen. And then now the dog is kind of
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  Speaker 2: starting to get so it's it's like building up something
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  Speaker 2: when Evil Lurks. When that scene started, I was like,
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  Speaker 2: something's gonna happen with a dog. I don't know what
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  Speaker 2: it is, but something's going happen.
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  Speaker 4: Did you see it in theaters?
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  Speaker 2: No, we all shut her like after it came out.
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  Speaker 4: Oh my god, I remember seeing that in theaters and
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  Speaker 4: I was so uncomfortable. I was saying, just like, the
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  Speaker 4: anxiety was ramping up as this you know, scenes building,
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  Speaker 4: it's building. I was like, dude, I don't have a
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  Speaker 4: good feeling about this. You know they're alluding to it.
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  Speaker 4: You know something's gonna happen with the dog, and it
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  Speaker 4: just goes like off the rails, just like the rest
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  Speaker 4: of that movie. But I agree, those those type of
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  Speaker 4: scenes make me very uncomfortable.
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  Speaker 2: Well listen, man, I'm telling you right now, my favorite
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  Speaker 2: movie of the year is Primate. So animal is top
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  Speaker 2: of mine, top of mine.
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  Speaker 4: I think Chris is on high alert.
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  Speaker 5: Dude.
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  Speaker 2: Primary is so fucking good. I mean, man in a suit,
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  Speaker 2: monkey running around, kind of mixed with CGI and one
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  Speaker 2: of the best John Carpenter Ripoff scores I've ever heard. Like,
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  Speaker 2: if you get a chance to buy that vinyl, I
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  Speaker 2: would get I haven't Boddy yet, but I would get it.
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  Speaker 2: The score is really good. For Primate, and I also
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  Speaker 2: saw it for free because the theater that I was
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  Speaker 2: in when I saw it was like thirty degrees in
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  Speaker 2: the theater. Didn't tell anybody that that's the one theater
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  Speaker 2: that no heat.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, I mean for okay, since you've seen that movie,
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  Speaker 4: was it? I don't know. I have a tough time
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  Speaker 4: with like animal like Kujo Kujo is a prime example.
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  Speaker 4: Kujo is I feel so bad for the dog and
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  Speaker 4: what's going on? And is it like that or is
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  Speaker 4: Oh no.
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  Speaker 5: It's conceptually it's the same thing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he gets he gets raised, so he hasn't.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so he has no choice. So it is conceptually
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  Speaker 3: the same thing as Kujo. It's just more intense, I'm
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  Speaker 3: sure throughout the movie because.
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  Speaker 2: It's but Kujo Kujo really leans into like the terror
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  Speaker 2: yeah of you know, and like you feel bad for him. Primate,
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  Speaker 2: it spends so little time with the with the ape before,
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  Speaker 2: so like you can kind of like you see him
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  Speaker 2: for a few minutes before it happens. But then when
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  Speaker 2: he gets bit, the movie doesn't treat it like you
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  Speaker 2: should feel bad for him. It just it becomes like
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  Speaker 2: Friday the thirteenth, Like he's like a Jason.
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  Speaker 4: For hes Okay, gotcha, And it never.
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  Speaker 2: Leans on like the empathy part of it, because the
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  Speaker 2: whole movie is just like from that moment on, he's
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  Speaker 2: just causing carnage.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, see me, I would feel bad and I
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  Speaker 3: hope you would kill all of them.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and I can't do I can't do it.
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  Speaker 5: I'm fine with him killing all of them as long
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  Speaker 5: as they don't hurt him.
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  Speaker 2: I hate animal stuff, and I none of the stuff
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  Speaker 2: in Primate made me feel like how I feel when
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  Speaker 2: I watch Kujo or other animal attack movies.
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  Speaker 4: Kujo, I have to be in like the right mind
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  Speaker 4: frame to watch it because I just you know, especially
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  Speaker 4: being a dog lover, I get it. I know that
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  Speaker 4: that's like the whole you know, the premise behind the movie.
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  Speaker 4: But I still always have a tough time with it.
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  Speaker 4: You see him become more and more deranged and rabid looking,
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  Speaker 4: and you know, well.
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  Speaker 3: I think also Kujo is hard because it's a it's
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  Speaker 3: a household pet, like it's someone in someone's animal, So like,
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  Speaker 3: how would you feel if that was your animal? So
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  Speaker 3: you do you have some level of you know, being
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  Speaker 3: uncomfortable because it's upsetting, you know, to think that could
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  Speaker 3: happen to your animal. It's not not out of the
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  Speaker 3: realm of possibility, you know, for something like that to
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  Speaker 3: happen to your own animal. But with the with Primate,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I feel like when you're getting into those
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  Speaker 3: exotic animals, there's kind of yeah, you're a way towards
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  Speaker 3: that because you know, it's a rarity for someone to
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  Speaker 3: have one of those, whatever purpose it.
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  Speaker 5: Is for, you know.
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  Speaker 2: But the you saw Nope, right, Jordan, Yeah, you feel
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  Speaker 2: worse for the ape and Nope in the very little
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  Speaker 2: bit that he's in it than you do for the ape.
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  Speaker 4: The entire time in Primate, that whole subplot was really uncomfortable.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I mean Primate never approaches it like that realistic,
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  Speaker 2: Like Nope to me was like very everything with the
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  Speaker 2: monkey or everything with the ape was very bothersome, like
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  Speaker 2: I like got deep in and I never felt that
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  Speaker 2: during Primate.
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  Speaker 4: Well, it reminds me of that. The incident that happened
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  Speaker 4: was it I don't know if it was like in
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  Speaker 4: the two thousands where that woman got attacked by the
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  Speaker 4: chimp and yeah, and.
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  Speaker 2: That's what Nope reminds me of. It doesn't remind me
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  Speaker 2: of anything Okay, Well because well because nope, nope. Alludes
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  Speaker 2: back to that with the woman in the crowd. That's
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  Speaker 2: where when he when he calls in the when he's
• 13:34
  Speaker 2: trying to back in the UFO to show the crowd,
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  Speaker 2: and there's a woman in a crowd with kind of
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  Speaker 2: like the veil over her face that blows and you
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  Speaker 2: can see all the scars.
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  Speaker 4: It's messed up.
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  Speaker 2: Did you, Steve, did you see popcorn a lot of
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  Speaker 2: times like in your local like video?
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  Speaker 4: Where did you not like that?
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  Speaker 2: No?
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  Speaker 4: You know, I remember seeing it maybe in passing, but
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  Speaker 4: it wasn't something that I was actively seeking out like that.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, because the poster is incredible. This what's so interesting
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  Speaker 2: about nineteen ninety one is that you still have a
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  Speaker 2: lot of that bleed from the eighties kind of like
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  Speaker 2: you know, there's still like eighties influence happening, even though
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  Speaker 2: horror is pretty much dying and dead. But the poster
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  Speaker 2: for popcorn is ridiculous.
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  Speaker 4: It's iconic.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's incredible, Like I would get that tattooed on them.
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  Speaker 3: I'm still trying to figure out a tattoo to get
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  Speaker 3: for it, But I get tattoos that Unless you've seen
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  Speaker 3: the movie. Unless you're a fan of the movie, you're
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  Speaker 3: not gonna know what it is.
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  Speaker 4: Fair.
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  Speaker 3: So popcorn has always been at the top of the list,
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  Speaker 3: and I still can't figure it, figure it out. I
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  Speaker 3: wanted to do something from the movies within the movie,
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  Speaker 3: but because you had said that, you said that, and
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  Speaker 3: I now I'm like, I don't want the movie cover,
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  Speaker 3: I want the I want something that's or No, I thought.
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  Speaker 5: Of the.
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  Speaker 3: Oh what is it called? They say, like the shock,
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  Speaker 3: the shot clock? Yeah, the heart, you know, shoo clock
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  Speaker 3: or something. Yeah, and it was it's the heart that
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  Speaker 3: they it goes off every time one of the movies
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  Speaker 3: is going to start.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, So yeah, I thought about that.
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  Speaker 2: I would. I mean, There's been a couple of poster
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  Speaker 2: arts that I've seen, but this main one. For anybody
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  Speaker 2: who's never seen it, just look up the poster for popcorn.
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  Speaker 2: It's a it's a skull in what would be like
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  Speaker 2: a traditional kind of like what would they called like
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  Speaker 2: the theater. They would like show people to their seats
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  Speaker 2: and stuff like that in traditional theaters.
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  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, it's called it definitely has more of like
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  Speaker 4: the old school field to it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it does that. But he's holding a it. Actually
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  Speaker 2: it's kind of now that I'm kind of staring at it,
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  Speaker 2: it's actually kind of confusing. It looks like he's kind
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: of holding her head that's like on a stick almost,
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  Speaker 2: but the top of the head is missing, so you
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  Speaker 2: could put popcorn in it and like a popcorn bucket.
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  Speaker 2: But it's just the color, the look. I wish we
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  Speaker 2: would go back to animated Oh please, drawn posters like this.
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  Speaker 4: Because I think there's so much more timeless. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: especially with like any of the you know, iconic horror
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  Speaker 4: films that we go back to time and time again.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, look at them. You know, there's a lot
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  Speaker 4: more like love and thought that's put into them. A
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  Speaker 4: lot of the stuff that we have now all has
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  Speaker 4: you know, four or five floating heads, you know, kind
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  Speaker 4: of all and you know, on the poster together and
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  Speaker 4: then you know the title of the movie.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's why I like the Scream seven marketing
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  Speaker 2: so far, because they haven't done that yet. They've done
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  Speaker 2: the face like Nev Campbell's face on on kind of
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  Speaker 2: on the new cover that's kind of the theatrical one
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  Speaker 2: sheet that eventually came out. It's just her face. They've
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  Speaker 2: kind of done it updated, which I like they've done
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  Speaker 2: the Texas chainsaw masker one, which I was actually kind
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  Speaker 2: of offended by, but the more I looked at it,
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  Speaker 2: I got used to it, even though I don't know
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  Speaker 2: how they thought, like, oh, scream and textat chainsawm asking,
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  Speaker 2: these are very similar. We can mess these in a poster.
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  Speaker 4: What I love about the most recent one that came
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  Speaker 4: out within the last week is that it feels like
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  Speaker 4: a straight up callback to the original poster.
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  Speaker 2: It does. Yeah, the woman nev on the front with
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  Speaker 2: the tiers.
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  Speaker 4: That I mean, you look at the other ones. I
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  Speaker 4: think this blows any of those other options out of
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  Speaker 4: the water by, you know, quite a bit.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I'm excited to see what Scream seven does.
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  Speaker 2: I am. But the reason I wanted to bring up
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  Speaker 2: the poster and the scream and stuff is because on
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: there's some writings out there for popcorn that are really
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  Speaker 2: interesting because of the kind of meta element of like
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: the movie within a movie. So for people who've never
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: seen popcorn, essentially what you have is a master of
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  Speaker 2: this guise, deranged killer that begins killing off a whole
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: bunch of college students who organized a horror movie marathon
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  Speaker 2: kind of reminiscent of the William Castle kind of fifties
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  Speaker 2: kind of gag horror films like the Gimmick. Yeah, the
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  Speaker 2: feature to Gimmicks. So they decide to they're part of
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  Speaker 2: a film class and they need to raise money.
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: They need to raise money for their film class club,
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: and they do that. They well, Toby pitches an all
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: night horrorthon to raise money for their club, and they
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: have access to a local movie theater that has since
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: closed that they reopen redo and get set up to
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: have this all night horror on that features the three
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: movies that include Gimmick, and obviously, everything starts to unravel
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: throughout the night, focusing around the main character, Maggie.
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: And I like, I love this movie.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: I don't know, like just to say I love this movie.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: I've always loved this movie so much. I know it's
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: kind of like a it's a hidden gem. I think
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: it's a.
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: Hidden gem totally.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: I love it for all that it is, the simplicity
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: of it. It's just a straight it's kind of it
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: really is a straightforward just like you know, yeah guy
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: and like on the loose killing people throughout the night.
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: Nothing crazy about it.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: You don't really get into much depth until the end,
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: you know, you don't really know.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: Much because they find they find the film reel for
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: a movie called Possessor, which was unfinished, and there was
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: this big connection to Maggie's family with Possessor, and as
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: the night unfolds and the series of events are unfolding,
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: it's connected to this lost film that was found at
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: the theater.
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: The movie's very atmospheric. That's like the one thing I noticed.
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: It's very cozy kind of you know, once they're you know,
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: actually in the theater. I mean, it's all for the
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: most part take taking place within that one isolated setting. Yeah,
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: and there's something about it where it's just I don't
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: feel like you get that as much with horror films
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: like that, which it was kind of nice to, you know, refreshing,
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: I guess, is what I'm getting at.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: Well, it's an interesting time. Nineteen ninety one is an
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: interesting time to call back to these kind of fifties
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: movies because you have three The Marathon becaus of three films,
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: and one of them is Mosquito, which is a giant
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: mosquito terrorizing town, government.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: Testing, affected by government testing, and it blows up in size,
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: and then it starts attacking the town, the little town.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: Yep, yep. And then you have the Attack of the
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: Amazing Electrified Man, which is like the incredible melting Man
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: I think of that's.
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: Prisoner on death row who gets the chair.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: And then you have the stench, which is sad, which, yeah,
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: you don't get to watch it. Yeah, you don't get to.
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: My one pet peeve. You don't get to watch it,
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: and you'll get.
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: To know you get short changed.
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what happens.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: And each of these are accompanied by a gag. So Mosquito.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: There's a giant mosquito that they send flying over the
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: audience at a pivotal moment of the movie. Attack of
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: the Amazing Electrified Man they have like shocking bits on
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: the chairs to kind of give people a little jolt
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: at certain times of the movie. And then the stench.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: They have a gas that they release into the theater.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: So it's three D. It's the mosquitoes and three D.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: The Attack of the Amazing Electrified Man is shocko scope
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: and the stenches aromorama so cool. I wish they did
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: that now. I wish even just privately owned theaters did
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: something like that you know, as a just I don't know,
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: like a once a year or something, just did something
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: like that because yeah, because it's fun, and you know,
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: I think it's it's just a light way to you know,
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: show horror movies and like very What I like too
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: is that these movies clearly are not good, Like they're
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: not good, but it's but like I could see people
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: like us going to something like this and enjoying ourselves
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: because it's it's supposed to make light of these movies
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: that came out and you know, just having fun and
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: also playing into the movie. Why I think it's so
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: great is because it is localized to the movie theater.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: There's really only a few scenes where they're outside the theater,
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: and they're very brief. But we all have anyone who's
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: a movie lover. Lover has a sense of comfort being
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: absolutely are like and being with your peers, being with
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: people who love movies and experiencing something like that. So
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: being in a movie theater and all those people are
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: watching this movie and don't know what's happening in the
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: background or behind this, you know, behind the closed doors.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: They don't know that anything's going on. How terrifying is
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: it to think that you could sit through a movie
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: theater like a movie and then you get to the
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: end of it and you find out like, oh, all
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: these people were actively dying while you were there.
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: So I think it's people to play off of that.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: It's kind of like Scream too, but kind of damn it.
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: I was just gonna say that.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: It feels like Stream two kind of bit off when
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: the crowd plays into yeah, the death of because they
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: don't know, Yeah, what's her?
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: Will Smith's Jada Pinkutt.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And people dress up in the movie. There's a
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: lot of fun. There's a really fun costume that somebody
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: comes as where they kind of they're like a mad
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: scientist and they have a second head sprouting off of
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: and rows up.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: He's got the mechanism on his arm that makes him
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: throw up. Yeah.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so they had a lot of fun with it.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: Clearly a little bit of history on the movie. There's
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: kind of some it's kind of some interesting drama surrounding this.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: The movie was originally written and directed by Alan Ormsby
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: and they started production and not only was Jill I
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: don't know if her name is Scolan or Sholin Schulin
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: Shulin Schulin. She was actually replaced or no, she took
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: over two weeks in and they actually had to refilm
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: a bunch of scenes with her. They originally had a
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: different actress in the lead that for some reason was
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: let go or left the movie, so then they brought
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: in Jill Shulin to reshoot all that stuff. But this
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: also happened when Alan Ormsby was fired from the movie
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: for being quote unquote too detailed oriented with the films
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: within a film, so he was fired and replaced by
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: Mark Harrier, who's known for playing Billy in the Porky's movies,
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: who came into direct So there's kind of split responsibilities here.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: Alan Ormsby is credited with directing the movies within the
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: movie and then Mark is kind of credited with directing
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: the rest of the modern day stuff. So there's a
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: little bit of shit with this movie.
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: Well was it Amy O'Neil who got replaced?
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: I believe so I think that was the name. Yeah,
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: I think they shot two weeks interesting with her, and
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: on the Synapse Blu Ray, there's a great making of
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: about this movie that's like an hour and some change
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: along and they talk about that pretty much like right away,
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: how they had to go back and reshoot all these
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: scenes with Maggie to replace that actress. I don't know
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: were you. Are you able to find a reason why
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: she left?
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: I'm looking into it right now. But of note, she
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: was in Honey I Shrunk the Kids, So take that
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: for what it's worth.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: Who was she and whom O'Neil?
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah she was Amy, says Lynskynsky daughter.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah she's okay, okay yet, sure, okay.
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: Chris, how could you forget.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: My favorite Stuart Gordon film? So yeah, a lot of
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: shit revolving around this movie, but it exists and it
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: came out perfectly fine. It's really kind of a weird movie,
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: I think for nineteen ninety one because it feels so
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: eighties mm hmm, you know, and it's what a weird
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: place in nineteen ninety one. You have kind of the
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: death of most of your franchise Slashers, but we're coming,
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: like we're like right on the heels of New Nightmare
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: and then obviously Wes Craven changing again five years later
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: to do Scream, kind of reamping the genre up a
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: little bit.
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: With super Meta for sure.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this movie has a meta touched to it, and
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: I believe that right up. I read said that this
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: movie could have inspired, you know, kind of kind of
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: was like a stepping stone for Craven to do New Nightmare,
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: which really opened up the door for him to do Scream.
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: M hmm.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: But Scream ends up with all the credit for kind
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: of doing all the meta stuff. Anyway, I think.
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: It came out at the perfect time, to be honest,
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: because you have to think of all the franchises that
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: came out before it. I feel like this is a
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: love letter to a slash do the Slasher to be honest,
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: like I think it it does. It plays like it
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: plays a big part after all of those franchises came out,
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: and you know everyone loves them so much.
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: This is an original thought, you know on that.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: And I, I mean, we watched it not too long ago,
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: and I said to him, you know, this scene really
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: reminds me of Italian horror. It's the scene after Blood,
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: the one who gets who's in control of the shock
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: scene easing the wheelchair when she runs away from who
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: she thinks is Lanyard Gates, the cult leader that you know,
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: we think might be the killer. She's running down the
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: hall and it's just it's all fog around her and
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: she's just running in the camera slows and it's cutting too.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: It's all very grainy, and it cuts to clips from
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: Possessor and the Flames and like him holding a child's hand,
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: and it's very you know, even the colors. It's like
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: a blue hall. Yes, and I said, this is very
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: Italian forward. This is very much it feels very Italian.
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: And then you know, the makeup in it, all of
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: it feels like it's pulling from inspiration from prior movies
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: that came before it. So I think it came out
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: at the perfect time, and I don't know, I like
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: it a lot.
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it serves as kind of like a bridge between
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: the eighties and nineties, I think, like, you know, because
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: I feel like around that time horror was really trying
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: to find its footing again. You know, you had movies
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: like this, and then you know Candy Man, and you
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: know a number of other films like eventually New Nightmare
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: and then Scream kind of really in you know, Player,
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: which really turned the direction for where horror was going.
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I could definitely see this as being like
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: a very bridge horror film, you know for what we
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: were getting.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: Well, this did not do well at the box office
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: at all. It was reported that the production budget was
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: about nine million dollars and ultimately only grossed four point
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: six million the box office. For some reason, it was
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: released on February first, so list it's not January. Yeah,
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: they're like, this is good enough not to release in January,
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: so we'll put it out right after January. But yeah,
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: since you know, it's developed this crazy cult following since then,
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: I think opening weekend was the majority of its budget.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: It did two point five million dollars on opening weekend.
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: It was ahead of its time.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: I said that when he's look at movies now and
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: they just didn't do well at the time, and then
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: now they have a cult following or you know all
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: that stuff. I just said, you know what, it just
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: might not have been the right time. Yeah, like you know,
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: for the rest of the world, Like for some people
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: like me. If I was around at that time, I
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: think I would have loved this. I think it came
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: out at the right time time. I think it's great
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: for like everything going on in horror and movies in general,
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: and just the.
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: Love of horror.
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you know, also a lot of people.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: I mean, this is like a rabbit hole, but like
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: going into how horror was received by the public anyway, Like,
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: you know, it still was not.
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: Widely.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: You know, this is when horror started becoming like, uh,
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: what's the word, Like there almost became like this prestigious
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: level to horror because this is the time. So I'm
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: trying to think nineteen ninety one, this is Silence of
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: the Lambs. This is the year that Silence of the
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: Lambs comes.
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: Out, and a much different movie, a much different movie.
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: But it also that's very crazy comparison.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: Well no, I'm not comparing it too, but I'm saying
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: that this is when the kind of general movie public
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: didn't know what to do with horror and they started
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: labeling it thriller in order to give it accolade. This
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: is when horror movies felt a little bit more prestigious
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: because that's what it had to be. There was a
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: little bit more I don't want to say the word elevated,
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: but they kind of kept changing it to thriller and
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: that was the excuse to be able to give it
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: accolade and kind of put it up with drama. And
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: things like that. So this was a really interesting time
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: for horror. But I also think popcorn is incredibly funny
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: as well.
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: Like it's dark, dark comedy.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's got this very tongue in cheek humor to it,
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: which almost kind of reminds me of like, you know,
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: the like the Keystone Cops from Halloween five, you know
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: what I mean. But you have Mark who's constantly getting
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: hurt everything that he does. He gets chased by the dog,
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: he falls down the stairs, he gets punched in the face.
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: Why like even so, I mean doesn't matter for me,
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: just that I mean Toby who ends up being to me, Yeah,
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: Toby who ends up being the you know, the main
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: the killer in this. I love his moment when he
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: gets locked out of the theater and he comes into
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: the he comes into the what's it called the He
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: goes and sees.
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, no, he's uh with the Uh.
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: He goes and sees Maggie and Mark, and he thinks
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: it was a joke, like they locked him out of
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: the theater when he says, I phone a trash man
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: and I.
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: Twisted my ankle.
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: So like the Killer, even something didn't go to plan
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: and he he got locked out of the theater and
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: had to get back in, and you know.
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: That was unexpected.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: And then when Bud dies, when he puts the recording
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: on the the shock you know control panel, and it's
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: the recording saying what color sequenced the colors will play
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: when the machine is turning on, so it'll electrocute him.
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: And he's like, well, what's that green?
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: Blue?
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: I forget?
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: Like it's showing like a killer as more realistic, Like
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: he approach like he's not gonna know, he doesn't care
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: and just saying, oh, I forget alright, like you know,
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: and so I I like that they added little bits
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: of humor.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: Also the crowd. There's a dude, there's a lot of
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: really great like crowd comments when they show them watching
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: the movie, and it's like, I think one of them
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: is when they released the stench and the one guy
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: goes one guy goes like ew that stinks. Like there's
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: all these random callouts from the crowded random parts of
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: the movie, or like is it doing amazing electrified men?
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: Somebody gets up and starts running up and down there.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: There's there's little I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: they just told people like all these people are you know,
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: they're just extras and just come in and watch the
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: movies or do whatever. And one says like fry the sucker.
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: And then the other on in Mosquito that cracks me
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: up is when she it's in the beginning, when she's
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: looking at the sheep, dead sheep and it has the
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: giant puncture wound in the back of its neck and
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: you hear a guy and it sounds like the upper
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: level go are you sure that's the neck? And it's
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: a stupid little comment that are made throughout the movie
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: that are great.
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a lot. Well, it's I think there's a
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: lot of rewatchability with this movie, you know, stuff you
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: might not pick up on first watch. I think that
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: that's what makes it a movie like this so timeless.
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: And I don't know, I think we were talking about
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: this earlier. It does feel very much like a very
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: you know, hidden gem that you know, over time has
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: gotten its audience.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, of course. And there's a I love the
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: makeup effects of this movie. It was something. Yeah, it
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: was something that I that I told you the first
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: time you had showed it to me, because when obviously
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: spoiler alert. I think people already got that mom when
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: you're listening to a podcast about a movie, you should
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: have seen the movie. But when Toby is revealed to
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: be the killer.
• 36:03
  Speaker 6: And he's wearing the face and the flaps of the
• 36:07
  Speaker 6: face are hanging off at the side, and it's kind
• 36:10
  Speaker 6: of like one of the iconic images from the movie
• 36:12
  Speaker 6: where the skin flaps are kind of hanging on, and
• 36:14
  Speaker 6: there's a moment where he.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: Like shakes his face and they slap like a dog's
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: ears would when they shake, And I was sitting there
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: with you, asking like, where is the seam? Where's the seam?
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: Like where is the transition from his burnt face to
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: the fake face? And it was incredible.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: It's clear because it's layered, so like when you look
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: at him straight on, and even from a profile, you
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: see the actual burn makeup from like probably like here back, yeah,
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: and all around, and then you see the layer of
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: what's supposed to be like the mask or you know
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: that he's wearing that just sits around here the perimeter
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: of his face, and then you have his natural face
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: right in the center. So it's actually three different things
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: that they're capturing, and you know it's and even when
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: they go into Tina's face, mister Davis's face, you know,
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: it's all very quick, like the transitions are like they
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: make it feel like it's very fast. So the only
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: thing I don't like with the makeup personally is the
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: scene with Tina up in the back part of the
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: stage and he he has Davis's face and Tina kisses
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: Davis and it's as if, like all of a sudden,
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: the makeup melted, yeah, connected to her and she it
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: gets pulled off. And that's probably my one thing with
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: this movie is that I so desperately wished that they
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: had not revealed his natural face in that scene, because
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: you see it. He's wearing the stupid curly haired wig
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: that's sitting right.
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: On oh yep.
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: And you know he's got the turtleneck on, which already
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: I'm like, no, you can't wear the turtle neck. You
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: can't hard pass a hard pass, and so and the
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: like the wig is not part now sitting right so like,
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: and he's got a really it's cool, Like his makeup
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: is fantastic, but in that moment I wish it was
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: kind of like a Jaws thing where they didn't show
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: the natural makeup until the end where he rips off.
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: That's yeah, yeah.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: They shot it up like it's like it just a
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: little too soon. They give it away a little too
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: You have a crazy scream.
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: He screamed. He yells in.
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: That moment at Tina, and they do this weird like
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: I know, I've heard this sound from another movie. It
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: sounds like a monster. It doesn't sound like a human yelling.
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: It sounds like a monster, like you know, just sound
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: bit that they used in that moment. So I think
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: that's the one part where like if they had not
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: shown that, I think if they left that alone, then
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: the movie would probably, in my opinion, be perfect. Given
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: all the craziness and you know, the things that people
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: laugh at.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: Well, it's one of those things where you can kind
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: of point to a lot of these movies I think,
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: and say like underhands of a more experienced horror director,
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: you would definitely have some improvements in those bits, rather
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: than somebody like Mark Harrier, who's sort of like I think,
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: I can't really figure out, but it was sort of
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: like a fly by higher, you know what I mean,
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: who had never really directed anything before this and hasn't
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: directed anything since outside of some short films, this masterpiece,
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: complete masterpiece. The movie was completely shot in Jamaica, in Kingston.
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: That thought was interesting.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this was a real theater in Kingston, Jamaica where
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: they shot this at Dreamland.
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, in the Dreamland Theater.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: And hence the band, the incredible band that manages to
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: play a full set without electricity in the middle of
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: the movie when the theater loses the electricity.
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: I didn't question you'll question.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: It because it's so well done and the band kills
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: it the entire time.
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: That's it.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they don't speak about the band.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: They're great though, and they play the same song for
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: like nineteen minutes. It feels like, was it Cocomainia dayco
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: Mania Day?
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: I'm here for it.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: That's their that's their theme. So let's get into some
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: of the categories that I kind of figured out here
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: and kind of picked up. And I'm going to dive
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: right into the coolest one. I think. Obviously this is
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: kind of like me jumping on the best but best kill.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: What do you guys think is the best kill from
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: this movie? I'm gonna go with I'm gonna jump on first.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: I'll do the uh, the the death of Toby at
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: the end of the movie with the flying mosquito swinging
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: around the stage.
• 40:52
  Speaker 5: He's electrocute.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: It's funny because he gets electrocuted and he's impaled by
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: the mosquito, which is like two of the deaths that
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: he inflicks on.
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: He used to kill a professor earlier in the movie.
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the mosquito is mister Davis. And then Bud with
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: the electricity. You know, he shocks him.
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: Well, Budd was pretty early.
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a crazy one.
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: Poor guy. He couldn't go anywhere. He didn't have a choice.
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: Well, no, he he You have to think all that
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: electricity goes gone. He gets flung across the room, like
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: he's not attached to the wheelchair anymore.
• 41:26
  Speaker 5: He was anchored, so he gets flung.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: They show the empty wheelchair right after he dies, and
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: I'm like, he's gone, he evaporated, He's no more.
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: On What about you?
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: What's your favorite?
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: I think? And it's only because it's so dumb.
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: This is I love it so much because it's so stupid.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: Is Leon's death in the bathroom, because that's you have
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: to think of, like there it does play like that
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: would to me and I don't know if I'm misinterpreting this,
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: but I think that the death that relates to the
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: third movie, The Stench. He throws the pellet in the
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: toilet and locks him in there, and the pellet starts
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: this smoke starts coming up and it knocks him out
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: and then it explodes because it reacts with the light.
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: Above him, and all you see.
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: Is the light above the toilet stall, the bathroom stall,
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: and it just goes poof, and it's just it's craziness.
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: Like I love that scene because it's to me, a
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: filler death. It feels like he just had to do it.
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: He's trying. He even says like, I still have some
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: time to kill plays on, you know, he has time
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: till midnight to kill someone else. And he just decides
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: to dress up as Leon in the bathroom peas on
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: it and then Yeah, grabs Leon, throws him in the
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: in the stall, throws the pellet in that you see, smokes,
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: and then he dies.
• 42:56
  Speaker 5: Well that's really it.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: That's the best shot is when he goes to the stall.
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: He goes of the uh what do you call it,
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: right next to him, and they look at each other
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: and he's wearing his face and his costume and both
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: look at each other and then yeah, he peels on him,
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: laughs and.
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: Then just kills him in a stall by knocking him out,
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: and then I mean, and it's also when when it
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: comes to death, it's the one I think that.
• 43:24
  Speaker 5: Is so not like there's no fight in it does doesn't.
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: No, it's a terrible way to go out.
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and he just dies on the toilet like he
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: I don't even and no one even knows truly what happened.
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: Like you see the light explode and you just assume,
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: I don't know, did he blow up on the toilet?
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: Like what was the balant?
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: What?
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: Like a terrible way to go out.
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah, So I think.
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: That's my favorite because it's it's very just thrown in there,
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: not really him just saying I have time to kill
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: another person and so I'm just gonna go ahead and
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: do it because I don't care, and kills Leon very quickly.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: What about you, Steve, what was your favorite?
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: I'd have to say Buds by Buds because it's just it's, yeah,
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: it's just so over the top, and I mean I
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: really feel like he gets like the worst of it.
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: It's like he can move you know, he's confined to
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: the wheelchair.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: He's also so close like he oh yeah, that's it.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: And it's really tense how it just he's so so
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: close to getting it, you know. I mean you think
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: he's gonna you know, he's not going to, but you
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: have hope that he will.
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: Oh my god, I felt for him.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: And then he evaporates. He's gone. He turns into uh,
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: he turns into uh uh mister Manhattan, flows up, disappears
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: into particles.
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: Who knows where we'll see him next?
• 44:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: Right, yeah, Steve, what was your favorite of the three
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: movies within a movie?
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: Oh? Man, I think the one that kind of stuck
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: out to me was I think it's The Attack of
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: the Amazing Electrified Man. It just has such a classic
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: feel to it. I mean, they're all they're all cool
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: to watch, you know, but I would have to say
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: that one just because it felt like a callback to,
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: you know, older horror movies.
• 45:19
  Speaker 5: What about you the same?
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: I love Vernon, I love it who And I think
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: it's interesting that they had, you know, they had two
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: directors for this movie because I like the three you know,
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: made up movies. I like them, especially Possessor I When
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: I showed him this. I'm like, we have this joke
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: of whenever we watch something and it's kind of off
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: the beaten path and it's kind of weird. I'm like, oh,
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: I think I have that, Like I think you have
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: that in the collection, Like it's just something that he has.
• 45:54
  Speaker 5: And Possessor is really.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: Is that.
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: He pulls the when he pulls his scalp apart and says,
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: come into my head, sees the weird gross like scalp
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: and I I really like that. I like the attack
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: the amazing electrified man. But in terms of like you know,
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: if you're looking at just the main three, but overall,
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: I like Possessor. You don't see it. I feel like
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: you only see it in bits and pieces.
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: You get like glimpses of it.
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: But I like Possessor because it feels like an actual,
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: like independent horror movie that someone just decided to make
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: about a cult leader that is, you know, just his own.
• 46:39
  Speaker 5: It looks like.
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: That's what I was gonna say, Oh, yeah, that's great. Yeah,
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: that's a great example.
• 46:47
  Speaker 5: So I like Possessor. I think that's good.
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: Mine is Mosquito because there's a great moment when they're
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: driving in the car and the mosquito punctures the roof
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: and sucks the guy dry, and you actually his body
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: like suck in, which is a great gag. But then
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: also my favorite part is at the end when they
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: just decide they have to drop the atom bomb. We
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: kind of drop the A bomb and they just drop
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: an atom bomb and kill the mosquito.
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: It's like, so you do what you gotta do.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: Everything and everything in those you know, fifties, uh, you know,
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: sci fi movies felt so inconsequential, you know what I mean.
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: It's like, oh, drop the A bomb, no big deal,
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: you know. Meanwhile, kids in schools are being told, yeah,
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: just hide under your desk in a real nuclear bomb attack.
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: And that's what they did.
• 47:36
  Speaker 5: They said, hit the desk, hit the.
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: Oh man, if only they knew what was gonna come,
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: If only they they knew what that was gonna bring.
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: What about do you guys have any funny moments throughout
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: the movie? Because for me, it's the big guy who
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: just decides to take marks. So Mark shows up with
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: a different date obviously, like him and Maggie are kind
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: of an ex thing. So he shows up with Joy
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: to the theater and he's sitting next to her, and
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: he gets up to go find Maggie, I think, and
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: a random guy in the crowd who is like, the
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: best way I can describe him is like Bulk from
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: Power Rangers.
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: Like he looks more like a wrestler. Like he's just
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: a huge guy.
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: He gets up and sits next to her just randomly
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: and then tries to like put his arm around her.
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: And then when Mark confronts him, she comes back knocks
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: him out.
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's why I like Cheryl, because Cheryl knocks
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: knock the guy out a problem. He's just an idiot.
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: He's a big idiot. And he just comes in, you know,
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: and just you know when he's like.
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: I've never hit a chick in my life.
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: He somehow still has, you know, morals and stuff like that.
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: He's like, I've never hit a chick in my life.
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: And she's like, that's all I need to know, and
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: just knocks him out face.
• 49:00
  Speaker 5: It just knocks him out.
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: It's so good he didn't see it coming.
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: Let's see. So I'm gonna go for character you'd want
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: on your side in a horror movie. I want Mark.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: I want I want Mark there with me, my man.
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, I gotta protect him. I feel like I
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: gotta kind of wrap him in some bubble wrap. But
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: because he falls down the stairs, he gets punched in
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: the face, he gets locked.
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: Out, he's injury prone.
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: When they get locked out, he gets chased by the
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: door woman, he falls off the the fence or whatever.
• 49:35
  Speaker 5: He gets messed up throughout the entire thing.
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: It's a great running gag too. It's like very subtle
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: that he just is always getting hurt everywhere they go.
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: Falling down the stairs, though, I think is my favorite.
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: It's just such a dump.
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: Steps on his hand, which he goes to help him
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: when he falls down the steps all years, don't step
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: on my hand. Then he yells handy and you just
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: hear this crunch. So I don't know, I don't know who.
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: I don't know who i'd want on my side out.
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: I mean, I would want Cheryl just because she seems
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: the toughest. But you don't get a lot of Cheryl,
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: yeah in the in that like you get Cheryl and
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: you get Joni, I feel like the least and same
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: with Leon. Those three are kind of the ones who
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: don't know what's happening, and even like at the very end,
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: like Joni doesn't realize that. She thinks it's Leon behind her,
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: but it is Toby who was about to kill her.
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: So I don't I don't really know. I like Mark,
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: but I feel like I might stand strong on my own.
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: All those people might end up dying.
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: It's like, it's a shame that Toby turns out to
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: be the killer because he's like my favorite character to reveal. Yeah,
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: I like Toby, like he's a really good funny like that.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: It's a shame, man, because that actor died very young.
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: He was very young, Yeah, shortly after this movie. But yeah,
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: like probably him or Mark the Professor whatever. I don't
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: care about care about mister Davis.
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: I do like his moment where when they first are
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: getting the movie theater set up and.
• 51:13
  Speaker 5: Is it doctor Mino's.
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: I can never suppli.
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he he comes in and he's trying to run
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: the place, and mister Davis calls Toby over and he goes,
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: who's this guy? Like it's so good, just who's this guy?
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: What's funny about the whole Landyard Gates Possessor thing is
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: my face and it's it always makes me laugh when
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: we when we watched the movie. Is how all of
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: a sudden, out of nowhere, mister Davis knows everything about
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: this film.
• 51:46
  Speaker 5: Well, he's the teacher, he's the professor.
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: No, I know.
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: But they find it, they're like, oh, what's this and
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: then they play it and he's like, oh, yeah, he
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: gives this whole backstory on Landyer Gates.
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: And well, they said they looked into it. They looked
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: into it, and it was.
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: Well from the time that she passed out till she
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: woke up.
• 52:01
  Speaker 5: Well, so can't question.
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: Little things like this. We ran the library.
• 52:08
  Speaker 5: Because he said, no, he bought into his wrap.
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: He did.
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: He said, I bought into his wrap for a little bit,
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: and then he stopped because then it got a little weird.
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: They started, you know, it started getting into the drugs
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: and all that other stuff. But he said he did
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: follow his rep for a little bit. But yeah, I think, uh,
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: I I do. I think I'm I might stand strong
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: on my own because all the all the people are
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: pretty pretty interesting.
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: I think, you know. Well, one thing we didn't bring
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: up is the fact that Dee Wallace is in this movie.
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah's mother, And my favorite part is when he's trying
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: to reenact the uh the ending of possessor that got
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: ruined the last time due to the fire, and he
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: has her a cast in a full body.
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: Cat it's so weird.
• 53:00
  Speaker 5: In the position she's supposed to be in with so
• 53:03
  Speaker 5: he has proposed like.
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: This, and it's so it's so ridiculous her coming out
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: and being in a full casted like suit thing.
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, well she she has like the weirdest role
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: in the movie because she you obviously see her at
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: the at Maggie's house, which yeah, she's Dane, yeah, and
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: then yeah, and then there's this scene where she goes
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: to the theater with a gun and she's standing out
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: and it's actually kind of I think my favorite visual
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: moment of the movie. She's standing out front and the
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: the letters from the Marquee beg yeah at her, and
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: then she goes into the theater and you get that
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: great silhouette shot of supposed ly Lanyard who you think
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: is Lanyard Gates, and then she disappears until she's in
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: a guest.
• 53:50
  Speaker 5: I I like that.
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: I actually like that she doesn't really have a huge
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: role in it. I like that it's the kids. I
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: like that it's mainly the kids, and even like all
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: the adults get killed off pretty much initially because mister
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: Davis would be the only other person who you know,
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: is the adult in the situation, and they're completely taken
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: out of the picture and it's just all the kids
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: really there defend for themselves. They don't call the police,
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: like police aren't in this movie. No other kind of
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: authority figure is around. It's yeah, just the band, which
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: the band. Actually, that's who I want.
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: That's who I.
• 54:26
  Speaker 6: Want to because.
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: I know the band would take care of business when
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: it's NATed, So that's my answers.
• 54:33
  Speaker 5: I want the band.
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: Steve, what's a scene that you would you would show
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: a first time viewer A plopcorn? Oh sure, I was
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: just in the band.
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think like some of the callbacks to
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: Possessor I think would really work because I think that
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: that really accentuates just how creepy some of them memories
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: she's like trying to recall.
• 55:02
  Speaker 5: Are.
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: I think that probably like if you were to like
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: you know, piece together a little like tidbits from that
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: or maybe some of like the the kill sequences within
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: the theater. That's that's really tough.
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: I don't know what that noise? Well, sorry, yeah, that
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: I would show the Lander Gates see when they find
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: the real and they play the they play the film.
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: That's the creepiest part of the movie, is the Possessor.
• 55:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it is creepy.
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah was it looking to my mind and then rips
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: into my head? Look into my head and then rips
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: his head open.
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: The scalp just comes apart and you just see the skull.
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: But also the it's it's really once again, it's a
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: very fast movie because there's moments where he's sitting and
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: his head, you know, it looks like his head, his
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: severed head is on the plate. Ye, but then it
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: cuts and it zooms in real fast, and it's just
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: the skull, like his dad, just skull there and it's
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: all really quick. Once again, feels very Italian, and I
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: that's what I was saying earlier, is that I really
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: like those movies. So I wonder how different Popcorn would
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: look if the original director had stayed on and done it,
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: because just going off of what he did for those
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: three movies and Possessor Mosquito is very cheesy, but like
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: the Attack of the Amazing Electrified Man Is, I think
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: is pretty good. Like I I probably would watch I
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: watch all three. I would watch all three nowadays, but
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: that one I feel like I would really gravitate towards
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah so and him being detail oriented in those three movies.
• 56:47
  Speaker 5: To me, it doesn't feel bad.
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: I can I can see from a production standpoint why
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: it could be a problem. But I think what he
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: did in those in those movies, they're not even movies.
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: They're just like, yeah, they're like clips, they're like, you know,
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: really brief, you know whatever, couple minute things. And I
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: wonder how different Popcorn would look if he had stayed
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: on and done the entire thing. Would it have a
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: darker feel than what we saw, which has a lot
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: more lightness to it, you know, as you go, yeah,
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: to break it up, like to break up the killings
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: and all that stuff. Like, Yeah, I wonder because what
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: would you think if he made just just say, he
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: made Possessor, What if that was like a full on movie?
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: Would you watch it?
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: Of course?
• 57:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, of course because it looks so good?
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like it really does. I think I think Mark
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: Harrier brought in some of that Porky's kind of humor,
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, that very cheesy eighties kind
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: of you know, silly humor of Mark constantly getting heard
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: and just some of the characters feel like they're out
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: of Porky's in a way, you know what I mean.
• 57:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's because I was like, why you guys were
• 58:02
  Speaker 4: talking about that. I was looking into Alan Ormsby, who
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: I believe was supposed to be the original director, and
• 58:08
  Speaker 4: he had actually worked with Bob Clark.
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Bob Clark was like a secret producer on.
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: This, which I think is it's just so fascinating because
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: they've worked together on Have you guys seen Death Dream
• 58:19
  Speaker 4: or Dead of Night? I have?
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: I have. Alan Ormsby also directed Deranged from seventy four. Oh,
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: that's right, which Kate just came out on. I think
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: Vinegar Syndrome put that out right a couple of years ago.
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: Let me see, I believe they put out Deranged. I'm
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: picturing the cover.
• 58:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah that sounds about right now. But yeah, I mean,
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: I think it's so fascinating because you know Death Dream.
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: I mean, if you use that maybe as like a
• 58:41
  Speaker 4: reference point, I mean that that movie goes to some
• 58:44
  Speaker 4: pretty dark places.
• 58:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: I think he was a writer on Death Dream.
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: I think, yeah, he did the screenplay.
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was on it yeah, Yeah, Bob Clark
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: had his hands in a lot of stuff kind of
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: outside of After Black Christmas, he had he had his
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: hands in a lot of stuff kind of just interesting.
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: Loosely, I think if you just if those movies as
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: much as they gave, they potentially gave him crap for
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: being too detail oriented in those I think if they
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: were anything less, then you wouldn't have the connection that
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: you do to the movie because I think it's focused
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: around those three I mean four movies and you know,
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: the gimmicks and everything and how the crowd responds to them.
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: I think if you just did bare minimum just because
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: you know, you the focal point is the rest of
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: the movie, Lanyard to be like Maggie, that's the focal
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: point of the movie. And I understand that, and you know,
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: you don't want a lot of time on extra stuff,
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: but those were an important part of the movie. That's
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: the whole premise. They are there to raise money for
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: their their class, like for their Yeah. So it's like
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: if if you're not going to put any effort into it,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: then you're not going to be connected to this movie.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: It's there's not really a point, you know, So I
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: think what he did was great, and I can see why,
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: you know, they went with someone else, but I think
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: it ended up ultimately working in favor to have both
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: of those minds, you know, be a part of this
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: project and have the one do really great work with the.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 5: Movies, you know, the.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: Movies in the background and making them memorable, and then
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: the other director making the rest of the movie what
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: it is and adding that humor and you know, even
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: you know, the makeup, all that, like, just making it
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: a really good horror movie all around. So I would
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: show them I would probably do the same thing and
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: show possessor. I would probably show the scene with de
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: Wallace from her the start of the of her on
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: the phone with him at the house, you know, to
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: her being kidnapped, through the through the the.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 5: Movie theater screen.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I would probably show that scene from you know,
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: I would show that from start to finish, just Dee
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 3: Wallace's encounter with him, because it it I think gives
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 3: you a good idea of ooh, this is this is
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: actually gonna be pretty cool and you really don't know
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: what it is. So I think that would be the
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: best scene to show.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, And just to kind of pivot out
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: as a as a final verdict. We kind of talked
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: about this before we started recording. But do you guys
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: see this as a hidden gem or just kind of
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: like fun trash? I don't. I definitely don't see this
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: as fun trash. I think this is a hidden gem
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: that actually, over the last couple of years, maybe the
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: last year, so, I've seen a lot more of our
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: community kind of rallying around popcorn.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 4: Do you guys think it's because, you know, getting like
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 4: a boutique released through say someone like Synapse really kind
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 4: of helped gain a new audience. As time has gone on.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: Well when did this come out? This was so Synaps
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: released this in twenty seventeen, and this has been the
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: only blu ray I think. I know they did a
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: steel book eventually too, but I don't know.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 4: I don't know when I feel like it's overdue for
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 4: a four K.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Well, I'm sure there's some rights issues and
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: you know, yeah, I'm sure somebody will get it figured out.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: I'm sure Synaps will eventually put out a four K
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: or something else.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 4: I just think we're manifesting it.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: I think I don't if Synaps didn't put it out.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: I really don't think it would have been what it
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: is now. I don't think many people would have still
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: known about it. So that makes me happy that someone,
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: you know, decided they love this movie and it would
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: be great to put it out and show it to
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: the world or reintroduce it to people that you know
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: might have known about it. But you know, so, I
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: definitely think it would have been hidden, definitely hidden from
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: the world. I mean, the guys who I spoke about
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: before we started recording that T shirt company, when I
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: said to them, are you going to do any more
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: popcorn merchandise? They were shocked that I even knew what
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: it was and that, unfortunately they weren't going to be
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: able to do more because of rights issues.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 5: But I was I just the fact alone that they
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 5: were shocked that I knew what it was. I'm like, yeah, no,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 5: I do, Like.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: I know what it is, but I I a lot
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: of the people that I come across, if I say popcorn,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: they have no idea what it is.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 5: I mean, It's happened multiple.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: Times where I'm like, well, you're missing out on something
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 3: real special. Yeah, And you know, and also it's hard
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: to get like popcorn when you don't have releases like
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 3: before synaps, Like, how you gonna watch it unless like
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: somehow it was yeah VHS or if it just so
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: happened that it was on streaming, you know, then you
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: could watch it that way. But other than that, I mean,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: it's importance of importance of physical media. If it's not
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: out there for everyone to see, then it's just gonna
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: get forgotten.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: So how did you watch it, Steve? Do you own it?
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 4: Uh? No? So, I actually I previously remember seeing it
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 4: like way back when on VHS, and then I think
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 4: the most recent time that I watched it was like DVD.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 4: This time I had to I hate to stream it
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 4: this time around. Okay, but yeah, this is one that
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 4: I definitely need to add to my collection. Unfortunately, the
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 4: VHS is kind of expensive, and I feel like now
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 4: at this point, since I haven't bought the DVD or
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 4: Blu Ray, that I should probably just hold out till
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 4: before k you know, yeah, it gets a nice, nice box.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: Buy that five dollars screener copy. It's on eBay.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 4: You know what yourself? You inspired me?
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: Well, I remember previously one of the guys that, uh
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: you knew Tyler?
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 5: Was it? Tyler?
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: When I had brought up popcorn or you had mentioned
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: it someone did and he wanted to watch it that
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: I was willing to give him. Wasn't it my copy
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: so he could watch it? And then I bought another.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 5: One or something.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 3: It's like I was willing to give up mine so
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 3: he could watch it and have it because I love
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: I love this movie so much and I want people
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 3: to see it. I think I have a very strong
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: connection to it, especially watching it as a kid. And
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: you know, my brother being so kind and probably also
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 3: just not caring, not caring. I say, he was very kind.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: He probably was just like, yeah, go watch it. Yeah,
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 3: and you know, just watch movies, you know, just watch stuff.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: So I think, you know, if the more we can
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: share these movies, the better of the world will be.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 3: Because like, you make light of the band, but come on, now,
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: I know, but I'm saying that that's like one of
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: the reasons why it's so amazing is because you have
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 3: these little things. I'm like, if the band wasn't in there,
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: I'd be sad it wouldn't.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: Be the same movie.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 5: So yeah, I think it's important.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: Well, I think that's the idea of these staff pick episodes.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: Is that we don't have to. We can just kind
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: of pick movies that we love. We're not doing extensive
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: amounts of research. You know. This is just more much
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: more us just being able to have a conversation and
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: kind of talk about these movies in a way that's
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: not as like we're preparing for Event Horizon, which is
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: our main episode this month, and that is like I've
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: done so much research on it, and I kind of
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: feel a little bit like you almost get a little
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: bit like burned out on the movie diving into it
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: that heavy, and I do feel like it's not always there.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: And there's so many movies that we've talked about that
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: maybe aren't to the point where we need to dive
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: into a commentary for sure. We can just kind of
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: chat about them. Get somebody on to chat about him.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 3: Well, Steve, I don't know if he told you, but
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: I said this idea because I said, I can't do
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: when I talk about movies, I really can't do structure.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 5: I said.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 3: I just and I'm already nervous as is. I'm like,
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 3: I just want to go on and I just want
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: to have a conversation about this movie that I really love.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 3: And enjoy, and I don't want it to be structured
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: at all, just a free flowing conversation of us discussing
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: this movie and what we liked about it, and you know,
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 3: because that's what movie conversations are.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: Oh for sure.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah it's not.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 3: It's you know, if you go and meet someone, you're
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: not going to be diving into such specifics because odds
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 3: are the other person might not They're not probably going
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 3: to know everything behind the scenes.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 5: They're not going to know all that.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 3: So just to have a regular conversation about a movie
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 3: that you know is enjoyed by all the viewers is
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: easier for someone like me, who doesn't do this on
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: the daily and you know, is a nervous rag.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 4: So no, it's it's I mean, I think, like like
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 4: Chris was saying, I think like the fun of this
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 4: is just being able to kind of just hang out
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 4: and talk about like the things we really love about,
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 4: you know, each movie that we're covering. But I like that,
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 4: you know, we don't have to go super in depth,
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 4: you know, conversation wise on it with you know, all
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 4: the special features and audio commentaries. This is just kind
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 4: of a hangout and to kind of shoot the ship.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly. So I think if it's any consolation,
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: I think you did amazing for your first podcast here.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 4: I was impressed.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you did amazing.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: I had there were multiple of times I had to
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 3: resist the urge to have any outbursts. Anyone who's on listening,
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 3: I have horrible outbursts of movie lines and I will
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: do it with no context and you, I don't care
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 3: if you don't understand.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 5: I just need to get it out. That's I just
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 5: need to get it out, because I will just sit
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 5: on it entirely.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: So yeah, it's like you just got it. You're like
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: the Polka Dot man from Suicide Squab fills up and
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: you gotta get it out. I have to.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 5: I'll just just all explode. So I did a good
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 5: job with not saying anything.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: No, no, either way, I think you did amazing to
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: thank you for doing this. If you're listening to this.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: We are only a couple of days away from dropping
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: something new that we're doing, which is kind of a
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: bonus episode for the month of February. We actually have
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: on Jake from sublk Obsessed and Dave Lee, who is
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: a producer for Umbrella Entertainment and they're coming on the
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: show to talk about all things about the upcoming Monsters
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: and Curiosity set from Umbrella and some of the controversies
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: that people have been kind of screaming about with that set,
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: about the bonus features. We're gonna be talking about all
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: of that in depth, talking about kind of the creation
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: of a set like this, kind of the effort that
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: goes behind it and all. And a huge thank you
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: to Davee for doing this all the way from Australia
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: recording that, and then a little bit later this month
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: we have our Event Horizon episode coming, so lots of
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: stuff to look forward to in February. Steve, you want
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: to let people know, you know, as always where they
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: can find you.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 4: You guys can find me at after Hours Video Ours
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 4: is abbreviated. I'm on social media all over the place,
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 4: just hanging out and watching movies.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: Good Man, good Man, and as always, I am at
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: Bearded film guy over on Instagram. You can follow me
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: there and then as well you can I post plenty
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: about my wife, who is not as social on social
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  Speaker 2: media as I am. She's not as present as I
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  Speaker 2: put myself out there. So if you want to see
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  Speaker 2: what we've been watching. That's the best place to find
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  Speaker 2: both of us. So for now, our first episode of
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  Speaker 2: staff Picks is in the books. It was a pleasure
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  Speaker 2: hanging out with you guys in the video store aisle.
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  Speaker 2: I think they're about the close. I don't know what's
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  Speaker 2: going on. The lights are off, and uh, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know where any of the employees are, so I think
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  Speaker 2: we should get you got to check out how to
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  Speaker 2: check ourselves out.
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  Speaker 4: It's a subtle sign for us to get the hell
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  Speaker 4: out of here.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see you guys next time I Beyond the Blood.
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