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Episode 48: Bec Donlan of Sweat With Bec, Personal Trainer · Hurdle with Emily Abbate

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  Speaker 1: Hey, Hey, you are listening to episode forty eight of Hurdle,
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  Speaker 1: a podcast that talks to everyone from top CEOs to
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  Speaker 1: entrepreneurs and athletes about how they got through tough times
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  Speaker 1: hurdles of sorts by leaning in to wellness. Emily a
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  Speaker 1: body here. In today's episode, I'm gonna be chatting with
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  Speaker 1: beck Donlin. She is a total boss babe, a personal
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  Speaker 1: trainer living here in New York City and part of
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  Speaker 1: the duo behind Go Basic and Edibles brand with some
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  Speaker 1: get into it a little bit. First and foremost, I
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about Beck Downlin. If you want
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  Speaker 1: to build your booty, be's your girl. She relocated to
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  Speaker 1: the US from Australia in twenty thirteen, and she really
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  Speaker 1: has built a name for herself as the designer of
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  Speaker 1: darriers for lack of a better term. She sells and
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  Speaker 1: makes her own loop resistance vans. You can buy those
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  Speaker 1: at sweat with BECKNYC dot com. And she works with
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  Speaker 1: everyone and from Victoria's Secret Models to man I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of you listening to the pod today. But
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  Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen she hit a hurdle moment of sorts.
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  Speaker 1: She was teaching an insane amount up to five group
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  Speaker 1: fitness classes forty five personal training clients a week when
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  Speaker 1: she was sidelined with back to back injuries. She broke
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  Speaker 1: her foot, she had a little knife incident in the kitchen,
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  Speaker 1: and then she also bulged a disc in her back,
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  Speaker 1: throwing her into intense pain. That's when she leaned into CBD.
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  Speaker 1: She teamed up with a friend of hers to create
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  Speaker 1: what is now called Go Basic and that's an edible's
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  Speaker 1: brand with super simple ingredients. Right now, they sell edible
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  Speaker 1: chocolates as well as protein balls, and she gives us
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  Speaker 1: a tip on this episode about what's next to come. FYI,
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  Speaker 1: it sounds super delicious and really exciting. Beck's got a
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  Speaker 1: lot of personality. She loves to promote her brand, which
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  Speaker 1: is fitness without the VS pretty much. She's not going
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  Speaker 1: to tell you not to drink. She's not going to
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  Speaker 1: tell you not to have fun. She's just going to
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  Speaker 1: tell you that you've got to work hard if you
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  Speaker 1: want to have it all. And I love that about her.
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  Speaker 1: Make sure as you're listening today, you're posting the takeaways
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  Speaker 1: at Hurdle podcast also at Hurdle Podcasts on Facebook and Twitter.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like it's been for ever since I've checked
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  Speaker 1: in with you guys, even though it's just been seven days.
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  Speaker 1: I've been traveling a lot from Spain to Paris to
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  Speaker 1: Aspen this week. If you've been keeping up and I've
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  Speaker 1: been having a really great time, I would be lying
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  Speaker 1: though if I didn't say that, I'm so amped, so
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  Speaker 1: amped to be in New York City for a ten
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  Speaker 1: day stretch right now and do the simple things like
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  Speaker 1: run and go to hot yoga at lions Den and
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  Speaker 1: catch up with my friends and sit at my weework desk.
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  Speaker 1: It sounds silly, but it's the simple things that just
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  Speaker 1: make me feel so me. As always, if you need anything,
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  Speaker 1: shoot me an email at Emily at hurdle dot us.
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  Speaker 1: A quick delay. Congrats to everyone here in the city
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  Speaker 1: that conquered the New York City Half Marathon last weekend.
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  Speaker 1: I was out there to you and for you guys,
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  Speaker 1: and you looked fabulous. Also, can't forget to shout out
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  Speaker 1: the LA Marathon runners. I was following you all on
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  Speaker 1: social yesterday and you looked great doing the damn thing.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's it. Let's get to hurdling today. I'm
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  Speaker 1: sitting here with beck Donlin. How would you describe yourself back?
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  Speaker 1: I love sometimes I feel like I go to describe
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  Speaker 1: people for them and I just you can do it
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  Speaker 1: so much better than me.
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  Speaker 2: I like saying that, but then I always laugh because
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  Speaker 2: I always get people to describe me as well, because
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, wait, there's so many different things now.
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  Speaker 3: So back in the day, I would say just a
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  Speaker 3: personal trainer.
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  Speaker 2: Now we say personal training slash like health and wellness
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  Speaker 2: multi half of it, entrepreneur kind of slash slide hustle queen.
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  Speaker 2: So I've got a lot of stuff going on, I.
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  Speaker 1: Know, but I feel like your side hustle is the
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  Speaker 1: main hustle. It is the hustle. So Avi by your voice,
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  Speaker 1: you can tell you're not from here. It's a fun
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  Speaker 1: thing about a podcast. It's the first thing that people
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  Speaker 1: want to know. So where are you from?
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  Speaker 2: Back from Melbourne, Australia. So I've been here for six years.
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  Speaker 2: Congrats Friday. I know it's great.
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  Speaker 1: Do you like it?
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  Speaker 3: I do love it. I love the New York Castle.
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  Speaker 3: I really love that aspect of it. Obviously, I miss nature,
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  Speaker 3: Like who wouldn't.
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  Speaker 2: But that's why I make sure I travel a lot,
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  Speaker 2: you know, yeah New York, so I don't become a
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  Speaker 2: crazy New Yorker if I leave every six weeks or so.
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  Speaker 2: But if I stay any longer than that, all of
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  Speaker 2: a sudden, I like get a bit short and a
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  Speaker 2: bit weird.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, Okay, I gotta go. I need to hike.
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  Speaker 3: Use something like that.
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  Speaker 1: You gotta go. I mean I can relate to that.
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  Speaker 1: Beck and I before we started chatting on the record
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  Speaker 1: today we're both talking about our insane travel schedules, also
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  Speaker 1: our mutual feeling of just liking to be able to
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  Speaker 1: do all the things we want to do by ourselves.
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  Speaker 1: I think this is an entrepreneur thing. It's like, you
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  Speaker 1: just want all this control and you don't know, you
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  Speaker 1: don't want to have to rely on anyone for anything,
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  Speaker 1: and it makes me antsy same.
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  Speaker 2: And I think what it is about that is you've
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  Speaker 2: put so much f into building your brand and too
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  Speaker 2: building everything, and you've done it all by yourself, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and then you get to the point where you need
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  Speaker 2: to grow and then you have to enlist help. But
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  Speaker 2: you're like, wait, I've done it so far, so well,
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  Speaker 2: I've pulled my whole life into it.
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  Speaker 3: Now I've got to trust someone and hope for the best.
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  Speaker 3: It's it's the worst.
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  Speaker 1: It's one of the best pieces of advice that I
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  Speaker 1: feel like I'm given time and time again. Rachel Dury
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  Speaker 1: from Daily Harvest was recently on the podcast and she
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  Speaker 1: said to me that she always hires people that are
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  Speaker 1: smarter than her, and I think that's I mean, it's
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  Speaker 1: an excellent piece of advice, but it also speaks to
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  Speaker 1: this idea that when you're trying to build something, at
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  Speaker 1: some point, sooner or later, you're going to have to
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  Speaker 1: go a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: Definitely.
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  Speaker 2: My thing last year was, okay, right, I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: recognize what I'm not good at, which is many things, okay,
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  Speaker 2: believe it or not, and then work out the tasks
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  Speaker 2: that I procrastinate the most on, or things that take
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  Speaker 2: me the longest, or just like a mental block on,
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  Speaker 2: and then get someone to do those tasks and fill
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  Speaker 2: those voids. And that's how I started, and that actually
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  Speaker 2: really helped because it made such a difference because instantly,
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  Speaker 2: now I'm not thinking twice about things, I'm not wasting
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  Speaker 2: time and that's okay.
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  Speaker 1: All right, So personal trainer, were you always super in
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  Speaker 1: to help and fitness.
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  Speaker 3: No, not at all.
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  Speaker 1: So give me a little backstory. Get let's get to know.
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  Speaker 2: Back This is a big story. No, no, no, I like
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  Speaker 2: to talk, so you're lucky. So I never liked sport
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  Speaker 2: growing up. I was not into health and wellness at all.
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  Speaker 2: I liked being healthy. I really loved food facts, I
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  Speaker 2: loved doing all that type of stuff. But going to
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  Speaker 2: the like playing sport and like doing physical fitness things
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  Speaker 2: for me was really intimidating. I was like the fashion
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  Speaker 2: artsy girl at school. Okay, I was a floater. I
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  Speaker 2: like had many friends. I was like kind of just
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  Speaker 2: friends with everybody generally, but I wasn't like in a click.
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  Speaker 2: I wasn't in like the sporting crew everything like that.
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  Speaker 2: So for me, sport had a bit of a stigma. Like,
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  Speaker 2: for example, like I played tennis. My parents put me
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  Speaker 2: in tennis lessons for two years and I don't think
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  Speaker 2: I ever played a game because I'm like, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: it's too much pressure.
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  Speaker 3: I can't handle it. And then I remember.
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  Speaker 2: When I was in year nine so like fourteen, and
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  Speaker 2: had to pick a sport for school, and I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: oh my god, what am.
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  Speaker 3: I going to do?
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  Speaker 2: And so I picked field hockey because the outfits were
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  Speaker 2: really cute. And then I remember it was like the
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  Speaker 2: first day and the coach was like, okay, Beg, you
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  Speaker 2: can like carry the equipment was and that was like
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  Speaker 2: my last tone because I told him to like get
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  Speaker 2: fucked and threw it all across the spot and then
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  Speaker 2: I walked away. So that was my schooling sporting experience.
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  Speaker 2: It's about the extent of it. And then when I
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  Speaker 2: hit like eighteen nineteen, I'm like, I love the gym.
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  Speaker 2: The gym's amazing because it was just against me. It's
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  Speaker 2: no pressure, it's not like that, because in my head
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  Speaker 2: it was like that big like Broie douchebaggy vibe.
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  Speaker 3: Of like playing a sport.
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  Speaker 1: Bex podcast is officially explicit. Sorry, no, it's fine. I'm
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  Speaker 1: cool with it being explicit. It doesn't bother me.
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  Speaker 3: It's showing passion. I think.
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  Speaker 1: The more expletives you throw into the world.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly when I was nineteen, I really got into the
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  Speaker 2: gym because it was just me.
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  Speaker 3: It was my own time.
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  Speaker 2: It was a really good mental release and I absolutely
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  Speaker 2: loved it. So I loved going to the gym. I
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  Speaker 2: love nutrition facts. I loved all that stuff. And then
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  Speaker 2: I was working in fashion, and then I went to hospitality,
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  Speaker 2: so I was definitely not in fitness. And then I
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  Speaker 2: kind of had this like well moment where I'm like, wait,
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  Speaker 2: I'm so obsessed with nutrition facts, I'm so obsessed with
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  Speaker 2: people's allergies and how they do this and like random
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  Speaker 2: things like that that I'm like, wait, I think I
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  Speaker 2: finally understand that whole like what are you passionate about things?
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  Speaker 2: Because I'd never had that before. I'd never had that
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  Speaker 2: with any role or career I'd chosen. And then I
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  Speaker 2: also realized that every single one of my friends in hospitality,
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  Speaker 2: everyone in pr everyone like the socialites and this and that,
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  Speaker 2: because I was like working with like we had crazy lives.
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  Speaker 3: It was very much a party based life.
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  Speaker 2: But everyone would not want to go near the gym
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  Speaker 2: or do anything because they'd just be like, ew, chicken
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  Speaker 2: and broccoli and ill fake tans because that's all they
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  Speaker 2: associated it with. So there was nothing really for the
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  Speaker 2: party goer, for the socialite, for the person that wants
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  Speaker 2: to do both and wants to have a bit of fun.
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  Speaker 2: But it doesn't have to be this complete, like all encompassing,
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  Speaker 2: like you don't have to commit to the meal plan
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  Speaker 2: every single dage.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you can do both.
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  Speaker 2: My idea it was it's better that people do something
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  Speaker 2: and actually it makes that attainable for that group of people,
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  Speaker 2: then not at all. And so that's how I started
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  Speaker 2: sport with Beck.
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  Speaker 1: That's so interesting to me that at nineteen you really
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  Speaker 1: felt this strong calling, because I think some people, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I'm thirty now, and I think beyond thirty, especially even
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  Speaker 1: people still struggle with finding something that they feel so
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  Speaker 1: passionate about. And this idea that what you do for
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  Speaker 1: a living can be something you enjoy.
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  Speaker 2: And that's exactly it. And so I think it took
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  Speaker 2: me a while. So I still worked in hospitality until
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  Speaker 2: I was like twenty six. And at this point you're
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  Speaker 2: still in Australia.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, still in Australia.
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  Speaker 2: And so it was twenty six and yeah, then it
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  Speaker 2: was like when I was turning twenty six, I was like, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: now I'm just going to start this because there's nothing around.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to make fitness cool and I was like,
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to make it attainable. And it was really fun.
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  Speaker 2: And that's why my whole brand is very sassy fitness.
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  Speaker 2: It's like health and wellness with sas you know, and
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  Speaker 2: it's very cheeky, it's very may everything's branded very much
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  Speaker 2: made you. I mean, I say it like it is,
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  Speaker 2: as you're going to find out over the next however long.
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  Speaker 3: But it's been fun.
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  Speaker 1: I love that you said cheeky because you're kind of
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  Speaker 1: known as a booty builder. Abound me that probably right?
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  Speaker 1: Did you? Always were? You always like a legs kind.
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  Speaker 3: Of gal I love.
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  Speaker 2: I think most girls like doing legs because it's like
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  Speaker 2: that you get that rush, you know, and like it's
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  Speaker 2: so I love strength training.
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  Speaker 3: I always did back in the day. That's how I started.
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  Speaker 3: I was a strength coach.
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  Speaker 2: I got obsessed with the bands because I could not
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  Speaker 2: activate my glutes. My quads would take over like crazy.
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  Speaker 2: So I was lifting really heavy. I had super chunky quads.
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  Speaker 3: My butt was barely activating all the time.
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  Speaker 2: And so then that's and I was getting injured from
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  Speaker 2: running because I was not activating my glutes. So I
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  Speaker 2: started doing the bands before i'd run because I hurt
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  Speaker 2: my knee like everyone that runs basically, and so I
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  Speaker 2: hurt my knees started getting really into the bands that way,
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  Speaker 2: and then I was like, then all my clients were
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  Speaker 2: starting to use the bands, and then I realized, wait,
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  Speaker 2: I'm like using these bands, like I'm like going through
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  Speaker 2: my Amazon account is through the roof every single week
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  Speaker 2: I'm order, I've got bands on order because they just
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  Speaker 2: keep on snapping. Nothing's strong enough. Also, like I'm only
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  Speaker 2: using the heavy resists and that's still not even strong enough.
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  Speaker 2: So then that's how I.
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  Speaker 3: Got into the band.
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  Speaker 1: So obviously you sell bands on your website. What's your
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  Speaker 1: website again, that's sweat with beeck dot com. Okay, so
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  Speaker 1: you sell bands on your website. But these are the
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  Speaker 1: same kinds of bands, maybe not as strong as your
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  Speaker 1: bands that you could go buy on Amazon and different
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  Speaker 1: types of resistance.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, you definitely can.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: The reason why I made mine was because we're the
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  Speaker 2: ones I was buying off Amazon. No matter how many
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  Speaker 2: brands I would try, would last about two weeks if
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  Speaker 2: you use.
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  Speaker 3: Them every day.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, mine, because the latext we use is if you
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  Speaker 2: use them every day, they should last two to three
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  Speaker 2: months instead, which wow, so much better and it's just
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  Speaker 2: more savvy for me.
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  Speaker 3: I was so sick of buying them.
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  Speaker 1: For someone who's never used bands before. What are like
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  Speaker 1: some exercises that someone would associate doing with them.
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  Speaker 2: So they're the little mini bands. They're about like what
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  Speaker 2: eight inches long, and they like loop around your ankles.
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  Speaker 2: It'd be like putting them around your ankles and doing
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  Speaker 2: like crab walks, so side steps all the way up,
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  Speaker 2: all the way back, putting them around in knees while
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  Speaker 2: you squat.
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  Speaker 3: You can also use them with weights in the gym.
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  Speaker 2: But my whole thing is to do like a lot
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  Speaker 2: of like travel fitness, so you can work out wherever
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  Speaker 2: you go.
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  Speaker 1: Got it? Got it? Okay, So you're in Australia, you're
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  Speaker 1: doing personal training, you're really into strength coaching.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry, I'm jumping everywhere right now. That's okay, really
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  Speaker 2: strength coaching. I came on a vacation to America and
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  Speaker 2: with my girlfriends when I was twenty five, and I
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  Speaker 2: was like, oh my god, I love it here. I
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  Speaker 2: need to live here. This is the greatest place in
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  Speaker 2: the world. And so I remember getting in the car
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  Speaker 2: on the way to the airport going back. I've been
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  Speaker 2: spent three months in all of America. I didn't go
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  Speaker 2: to New York though, and so we did like San
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  Speaker 2: France through like all of California, like Hamas, Miami, like
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  Speaker 2: weluded and everything, and I member my friend driving with
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  Speaker 2: the airport and I was in tears, and he's like,
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  Speaker 2: what the hell is wrong with you? And I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: I'm so sad to leave. I've never felt more at
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  Speaker 2: home in my life. I need to live here. And
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  Speaker 2: he's like, well, why don't you apply for the Green
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  Speaker 2: Car Lottery. And I'm like, what the hell is that.
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  Speaker 2: That sounds like it's fake, and he's like, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: it's real. You just pay fifty dollars online you apply
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  Speaker 2: for the g Card lottery and like they draw it
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  Speaker 2: every year and I'm like that sounds ridiculous, but yep,
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  Speaker 2: I'll do it. And so then I applied for the
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  Speaker 2: Green Card Lottery. As soon as I got home. I
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  Speaker 2: was so obsessed with the thought of winning. And this
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  Speaker 2: is where I got really into manifesting things. I think,
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  Speaker 2: to the point where every night, in the middle of
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  Speaker 2: the night, I would wake up like dreaming that I'd
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  Speaker 2: won the Green Card Lottery or like, oh my god,
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: check your email quick like. But this went on for
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: like eight months, and then they announced the winners. I
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: actually won, which was kind of crazy. And so then
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: that's how I moved to the States.
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: It's crazy to me that that exists. And then it's
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: so hard for people from other places to get to
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: the States.
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: It's actually, even as a normal AUSTRAI, it is so
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: hard to move to the States unless you're sponsored or
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: anything like that.
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: In for personal training, it's.
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: Almost impossible to move to the States. Right, So the
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: green card, really it was like a game changer for me.
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: It was great.
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: And so when you moved, did you come street to
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: New York? I did, so.
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: It was actually in a relationship at the time, and
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: the compromise was, well, if I'm changing countries for you
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: instead of moving to La like you want, Beck, let's
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: move to New York and we'll compromise that way. And
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: I did not want to move to New York at all.
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: I was so bitter about it. But I'm like, it's okay,
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: I'm in the country. It's all that matters. It's all
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: that matters. Really, Like I love LA like I love
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: that vibe usually, and then we moved here and I
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: absolutely loved it and he hated it.
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: So yeah, and you're still here, and you're still here. Okay,
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: So you came to New York and you loved it. Yeah, absolutely,
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: And you knew when you came here that you wanted
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: to do personal training, you wanted to keep that vibe going.
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: Yes, So that's this is where I like officially, So
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: before I left, I was probably.
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: Working five jobs.
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: I was doing like everything from like door bitching to
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: bartending to like literally I'm sorry, what.
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: Was the first one?
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: Door bitching?
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: What is that? What is that?
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: Maybe that's an Australian term hostess. It's a selector.
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: So I'm the person out the front of the club
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: that tells you who can come in and who cannot.
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: Was one of the hardest door girls in Melbourne, which
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: is very funny.
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: For like a couple of years, it's just hilarious.
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, because I'm really tough, guys.
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: So I was working so many jobs.
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: So then when I got to New York, I'm like, okay,
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: obviously I don't really know anybody, so I'm going to
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: barton straight away because it's easy, like it's it's some
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: form of cash flow.
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: And then I got a job at Equinox in the
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: printing house.
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: Okay, and how long were you working at Equinox Fire.
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: Maybe like twelve months? Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, I was
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: really happy to leave that place.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: I'm not good at working for other people, and I
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: think that's what really really.
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: Stuck a fire up. Shall we say, it really made
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: me realize I.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: Having my own business in Australia moving here, I'm like,
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: I need to work for myself. I'm so I thrive
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: by myself. I'm so competitive with myself.
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: I love it.
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: I don't like if I'm told to do a task
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: and I can't see the reason why I just won't
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: do it.
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: I've really got problems like that.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: And so for me working at Economics, maybe it was
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: really good to meet people and like actually have some
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: form of like running into.
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: People, because otherwise I wouldn't.
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: But yeah, that really made me realize, Okay, this is
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: it I've really got to do start sort.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: I would imagine that, Yes, it was a good place
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: to meet people and also a really great place to
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: get a sense of what it's like to work in
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: fitness in a city like New York.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah it was, and it's but it also down to
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: like but I would notice instead of what it's like
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: to work in New York Fitness because it's very similar,
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: but it was more so funny of like the hierarchy.
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: Of working in a gym.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: Again, I'm like wow, and then like things like just
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: like the micromanagement and you're like, oh my god, like
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: and I like because if you had your own business
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: and you go into it's like an institution like that,
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: I guess then you realize you're like, wait, there is
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: just like it's just the time wasting is just insane,
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: Like it's just a different thing.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: So leaving a gym like that and then going on
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: in your own has got to feel a little bit intimidating.
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: It was terrifying, it really was.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: I had one of those moments where I'm like, Okay,
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: well I'm going to give it six months.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: Okay, because I really was it was a lot. So
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, I'm going to give it six months.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: This maybe fitness is not my thing, Maybe this is
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: my time to leave fitness. Maybe because I was just
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: I was not like hating on it, but I was
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: like really wanted to start sweat with back, but I'm like, okay,
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: I'm going to give it six months. If I mess
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: up or if i feel like I'm not getting aywhere,
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: then you know what, maybe like maybe management's more my thing.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe I'll like do that. And so
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: then I was like, Okay, I'm going to go like
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: balls to the wall for the next six months, and
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: I'm giving it my absolute everything, because I'm someone that
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: I can't have a what if with anything in my life.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, I have to tick that box. I can't
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: like it just it kills me. So I'm like, Okay,
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: I'm getting it literally everything. If it doesn't work, I
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: can say I've absolutely tried my best, but I need
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: to give it that six months.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: So then tell me a little bit about what those
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: six months looked like for you.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: Those six months were a lot of me tearing my
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: hair out, a lot of me being like I got this,
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: but I don't got this.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of guess work.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: I've never had help with anything like that, so it's
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: all just doing it by myself and just hoping for
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: the best.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: I'm like a hustler.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: It was like basically I was brought up that way,
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: like that was how we were brought up. So I
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: was bartending while I was personal training, while I was
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: doing everything else, and I was just like, this is
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: going to work.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: It just has to work, right, Wow, So early mornings
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: and leet mates, oh, everything. Yeah, and where were you
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: training clients at this point?
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: I was training clients in Tribeca, like at a private
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: fit to studio, and then I was also training out
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: of people's apartments, so I would got a lot of
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: my clients were through referrals because everyone was obviously I'm
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: good at what I do, come on.
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: But so I have a lot of really good referrals,
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: which is great.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: So I was going to people's apartments around Tribeca West
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: Village and things like that.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: And at the time, were you sticking with a lot
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: of this resistance band tape training that you had started with?
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: No, So it's funny.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: I actually I was doing it, but I hadn't made
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: my beooty bands at this point. Okay, so it was
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: around this time I decided to create the booty bands.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: At this point, I was doing a lot of like
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: old school strength training, a lot of hit and things
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: like that.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: So, yeah, what.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: An overwhelming idea to think I want to make some
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: bands that are my own And how do you even
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: think about who to reach out to you to do that, like,
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: did you work with someone to do the branding? I mean,
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: at this point we're sweat with back like a true
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: thing yet, So so.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: With Beck was a true thing.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: I've always had my website that's been up for like
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: eight nine years now, so okay, and it's always been
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: very fun and sassy. I've always had my Instagram because
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: that was like my little side project for me. And
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: everyone's like, there's no point putting effort into Instagram, Beck,
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: It's a waste of time, and I'm like, okay, cool.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: I was like, I like it. So I've always had
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: that just sticking along.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: The branding and everything that's completely me. I love copywriting.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: It's like a real like I absolutely love it.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: I love back in the day when I attempted to
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: go to college, I did payr for like a year,
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: and I loved that. I've always loved that realm, you know.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: I love branding. I love all that, like creating an
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: experience like that's always been my jam. It's just so
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: much fun for me.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: So this was a really good way to have that
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: creative outlet. Because I was always an art student.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: I was always doing like random things like that, so
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: it was kind of nice to actually be able to
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: incorporate that into my fitness job in So.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: That was good.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay, so then who do you even reach out to?
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: You to say, hey, you want to help me make
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: some bands?
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: You literally reach out to every single person on Google
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: you can find for probably like I don't know, two years,
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: and you're like literally just like cold, like.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: Every single person possible.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: So yeah, but it worked out, So that's good.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: I mean I can only imagine, like how do you
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: even vet someone to know.
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: That's exactly it?
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: The amount of samples and then like the amount of
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: samples of like okay, we've finally got the thickness. Cool,
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: Now who can print on this?
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: Wait, you can't print on this? Oh the letters are
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: going to fall off after.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: Like two weeks of use, and so like the road
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: testing of trying to find a printer that can print
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: and it stays while it's because they're stretched so much
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: without the cracking and without all that stuff.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: That was just like it's a lot, a lot.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: But for me, it was like it was a project
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: and I'm like I don't care. I'm just going to
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: start off making a hundred I don't know any money,
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: but it's going to be worth it. And so I
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: made like such a small run of one hundred, but
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: I'm like okay, and then as soon as I've sell those,
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: I'll have enough money for the next lot, and then
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: I can buy more and then that's how that begain.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: All right, So fast forward about four and a half
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: years or so. Your body starts to talk to you
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: a little bit.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so let's.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: Talk about that.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: So I the Evans were really successful.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: Things were great. I started teaching classes. I'd never been
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: a group fitness person. I'd always been that typical trainer
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: where I'm like, I'm a personal trainer, ew group fitness
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: because that's basically how you brought up as a trainer,
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: which is really funny.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: Or it's like a strength coach. So I started doing
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: group fitness. I loved it.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: It was so good, and it's also a way to
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: like teach people how to use my band, and like,
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: obviously then people are going to buy more bands, so
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: that makes sense. So it was perfect for all the
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: branding side of things. So I was doing five classes
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: a week and then I was also teaching forty five
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: personal training sessions a lease, right, class was trying to
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: like do everything else and then like have a life.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: I definitely didn't have a life, you know then or
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: occasionally like have a crazy blowout and they'd be like, great,
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: now I feel like shit. So it's like there like
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: that one extreme to the other all the time. So
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: I was definitely running myself down. But it was definitely
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: the fittest I've ever been. I was like, oh my god,
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: I feel superhuman. I was in a really good place.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: I was so happy with how like, like how I
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: looked wasn't even an issue ever, because I'm like, oh,
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: I'm just I'm fit all the time.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: This is amazing me. And I never, like never to
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: worry about it.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: Like it was just a really good headspace because I
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: think being in fitness particularly, that's something that comes up
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: all the time of how you're looking and whether you're
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: booking shoots or whatever. And then I started getting injured
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: like a lot. So I was doing about like two hours.
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: Exercise a day. So the classes were great, that was fine.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: It was more so that in my own personal training,
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: I was doing less strength and I was doing more hit.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it just started to affect me.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: So it started off with a broken foot, which was
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: happened I think November to what two years ago, twenty seventeen, seventeen, and.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: That was yeah, that was just like, oh God, I
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: would jump in my class.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: I have to do this, I have to do that.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: So I do like a moon boot first eight weeks,
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: which killed me. And then on the day, but I
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: was so committed to the moon boot, which was not
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: a cute look at all.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: Can I let you know?
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: It was terrible and it wasn't like an obvious moon boot.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: It was like the marine boot that almost could be
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: a weird orthopedic shoe, so no one even knew that
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: you had one, so it was.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: It was awful.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: But I was so committed to the marine boot because
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I can't make this worse.
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: I need to get better.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: And this is the first time I witnessed like injury
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: to that level where I'm.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: Like, oh wait, this is now affecting my work. I
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: can't do things.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: So then on the day I got my marine boot off,
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: I bulged a disc in my back because the marine
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: boot had made my hips uneven so badly. So as
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: soon as I tried to do something I like it
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: was just like walking.
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: I like bulged a disc in my.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Back and then that started a bit of a spiral
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: of injuries. And then I'm also really lucky sometimes, shall
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: we say. And so I was cooking. It was just
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: two weeks after the back. It's so stupid. I was
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: cooking and I had a knife and coconut because I'm
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: an idiot, and the knife slipped and went through my finger.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: Geez.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: So I like had that moment where like the knife
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: is through one end of the thing. I know, check
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: out that scar.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: It's like that's a real star.
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: It's very real. And so I was sitting there and
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: I like had to pull the knife out, and I'm like,
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: oh my god, this is awful. But then I'm also
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: I remember grabbing my phone.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: Like like looking at my dog and he's like what
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: are you doing and I'm like I don't know. And
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: then I remember grabbing my phone and I'm being like
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: I have no one to call.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: I am so alone.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Oh my god.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: I was like, So it was that real moment.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: You're just like, holy shit, what the hell is Like
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: my body's falling apart.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: I don't need anybody to call and be like take
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: me to emergency. I have no idea what to do.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: I'm Astralian and I've never been injured before in America.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: I don't have health insurance becase I'm an idiot, so
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: I'm just like, ah, sorry, that was just like a time.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: So it's just one thing after another. So there I was.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: I can't lift in a thing, I can't walk, I
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: can't jump, I can't run, so I can't even do
• 26:13
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• 26:14
  Speaker 3: I like literally can'tjoinn a thing.
• 26:15
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  Speaker 1: Let's get back to it. First of all, holy crap,
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: I have like chills down my spine thinking about like
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: this idea of pulling a knife out of my own finger. Awful. Also,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, there's so many different things to come in
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: on that entire story. First and foremost, the idea of
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: feeling alone living in New York. I think a lot
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: of people actually experience that constantly. And obviously you came
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: here from very far away, but it is like the
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  Speaker 1: and it goes back to this idea of like wanting
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: to be able to take care of yourself. I also
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: think that sometimes you don't realize how scary it is
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: to live alone until something goes wrong. Yeah, you guys,
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: it's like the freedom, the freedom of living around, the
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: freedom of living around. I didn't talk today. I'm so overwhelmed.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: But it's like, I don't need anybody. I'm fine, I'm
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: a bus babe, I'm good. And it's like, no, no,
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: sometimes you know what we Disneyed.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: People, Yeah, you really need someone to help you go
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: to the hospital. So yeah, I can totally relate to
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: this idea of not wanting anybody's help ever, even when
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: you're until you really realize that you need it. Also,
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: this idea that your body is your money maker is
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: so scary, and you telling me that you don't have
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: health insurance makes me even more scared. That was just
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: do you have now? Okay? I think we actually talked
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: about this when you're shopping. Can I tell you when
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: I months ago was looking for my own health insurance.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: I was posting about it on Instagram. And so many
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: people that are in the fitness space and entrepreneurs who
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: need to be on something like Obamacare find their own
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: health insurance as that part like without a marketplace of
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: being in a place of employment, it's so overwhelming, and
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: it's also so expensive, which is the reason why I'm
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: sure maybe at the time you didn't even have health
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: insurance begin.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: With no, because it's just it is so expensive. Yeahasy,
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: and it's like and also like, I think I don't
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: understand that. I still barely understand the systems here of
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: like your cutoff dates and everything. Yeah, so two years
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: in a row, I've missed the cutoff date and then
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: they're like, oh, well, too bad now, and I'm like, wait,
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: that was it. I didn't realize because I was like
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: either traveling with work or so over committed and not
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: thinking that that was that important.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: And so yeah, so you learning lessons, I guess.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: And then you have to pay for everything out of
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: pocket and overwhelming I know. So Okay, so you are
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: coming back from injury, multiple injuries. So you're coming back
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: from multiple injuries. You're now slightly in debt because you
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: had to pay out of pocket for a lot of
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: things that you really needed.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so that was interesting, But that was fine because
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: I'm like, do you know what, it doesn't matter.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: I've got this. I've got this. I've always been like
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: really good with my money. A big saver and then.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: So I think we're in like January February, and now
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: I meet Jill, my business partner now business partner.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: We were walking out dogs together. She owns Magic Mixed
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: US three.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: And I was telling you how I've always made this
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: CBD chocolate and I really want to launch a CBD
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: chocolate and I think it's going to be a game changer.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: And you were making you were making CBD chocolate at
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: home always. Okay, can we talk to the Hurdle listener
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: a little bit about CBD?
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: Okay, So CBD is it's from cannabis, so it's a
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: non psychoactive part of cannabis.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: So you've got cannabis. It's THHC and CBD.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: So this is the oil it's been extracted, so it's
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: not going to get your heighth it's just going to
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: chill you out. So it's really good for anti anxiety inflammation,
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: which is what I was using it for pain relief.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: And kind of what I realized when I was taking
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: it every day, which was crazy to me because I
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: was taking it for pain, that all of a sudden
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: I had this air of mental clarity and I was
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: not expecting that at all. So I was taking like
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: like for me, and everyone's dosage is very different as well,
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: because we've all got different tolerances. So for me, i
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: was having like thirty five milligrams in the morning, thirty
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: five at night. And what was funny is I've like always.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: I'm not like, I'm like, I'm chill. I'm Australian. I
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: don't get anxiety. What are you talking about.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: I'm so chill. I've just got a lot on. I'm
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: just really busy. I've just got a lot on. I've
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: just got like twenty things to do today. And then
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden, my mind's like panic talking because
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: it's not necessarily anxiety. I'm not going to have a
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: panic attack. I'm just do list anxiety as far as
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: like I can't mess up.
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: I've just got to get everything done.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: So that is what used to get me really like
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: kind of hyped up in this level. I'm like, I
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: just need help focusing. Maybe I've got ADHD, I don't know.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: And so having CBD every day was crazy because after
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: a week of it, I'm like, wait, I'm thinking so
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: much clearer. I've all of a sudden can process my
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: thoughts so much better. And I wasn't expecting that at all,
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: and so now I'm like, wait, everyone needs to have this,
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: like everyone in their lives.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: So that's why I'm pushing CBD.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: Basically, when you first started taking CBD, how did you
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: even know what it was? Where to find out? How
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: do people figure out what's in their CVD? Because it's
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: not very regulated, it's not very regulated.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: It's very daunting.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: For me.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: I started looking into it because I was either it's
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: either like I had to get off percoset.
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: I could not take a pocost every day.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Right, Like that is not like the way of life.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: I'm like this, I'm like, yeah, I feel great, but
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: I don't know about this. This is not good for me.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't want to have that many meds
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: all the time. So that's why I started getting into
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: the cannabis field. And it's been crazy, it's been good.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Okay, So when you were making it, and I have
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: so many questions about CBD, So when you were making
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: it on your own at home, how did you even
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: know how much to use? Are you making larger batches?
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: It's trial and error. So for me, I've always made
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: my chocolate.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: I've always made my protein bowls and things like that,
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: but it was just trying you start off small.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: So with CBDA, every single person has a different tolerance,
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: you know. So for some people, five milligrams could completely
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: be like, oh my god, I had the best sleep
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: of my life and I slept for twelve hours. Right,
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: that might be your tolerance. Afaron digest things differently, it's
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: so different. So for people that are new to the
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: CBD realm, what I would say is start very small.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: You can always have more, do you know what I mean?
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: So it's like kind of like I would start on
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: a five milligram dose. That's why our chocolates are five
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: milligrams because it's kind of a gateway CBD item for
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: people that are new to the space.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Okay, so let's talk a little bit about your chocolates.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: You're making them in your kitchen, and when do you
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: realize that what you're making to help treat your own
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: inflammation and your own pain could be something that could
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: be beneficial to other people.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: I had this real life bulb moment of the CBD
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: factor when I was just realized how much it was
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: helping me. And then when I met Jill, when we
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: were walking out dogs, We're talking about it, and I'm like,
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: I just I would love to make these peop Would
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: you want to do it together? We can use your facility. Let'
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: us do it as a little colab and see what happens.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: And so that's how that started.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: I think it's is it interesting for you because it
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: can be maybe unnecessarily controversial one.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: Hundred percent, and I think it's kind of crazy.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: But the fact that like, I give my mum CBD
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: and my grandmother CBD and they're like, and I've come
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: from a pretty like straight laced family when it comes
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: to things like that, and they're quite open to it.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: I think it's sad that it's quite controversial. It really
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: is because it is such a game changer. My mum
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: has really terrible restless legs, like to the point where
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: they drive her crazy, and so they put her on
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: Parkinson's medication for restless legs and.
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: It's still not working.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: But once you go on this medication, you can't really
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: go off it because it's like it messes with you
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: so badly. So she's been on this for like five
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: years and then so last year I gave her a
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: CBD and I'm like, no, let's get you on CBD,
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: but like crazy high doses. You can't get CBD in Australia.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: You can barely get it. It's crazy and it's the
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: first time that now all of a sudden, her restless
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: legs are better and like that in itself, it's like
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: that's crazy people that have seizures or like what's it called,
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: like prone to epilepsy and things like that, Like that's
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: that completely.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: Stops that, do you know what I mean?
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: So there's so many good benefits that medication can't do
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: epilepsy medication here you lose half your hair, Like that's
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: not that's not an answer, like so instead like it's
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: it's it should not be looked upon the way it is.
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: I sent people. I don't think.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: Okay, so you're making cbed chocolate with your girlfriend, Yeah,
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: as a little experiment. And what's this company called the Time?
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: It does a company have an name, just a side
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: shot name.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: It's like it's a colab So it sweat with Becktime's
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: Magic Mix, which is the biggest mouthful ever. So but
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: it was really fun to once again get creative with
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: the branding and have fun with that. Like the packaging
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: and everything like that. Our packaging is beautiful and I'm
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: so proud of it. But it's been really fun that
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: the creative side was so fun. And so I think
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: when I'm doing all this, I'm realizing, wait, because obviously
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: I started doing this and I'm like, this has to work,
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: because I realized I needed another hustle that wasn't reliant
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: on my body. Yeah, so I couldn't even post a
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: booty band video on my Instagram anymore because I could
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: not do them because I was I literally couldn't do anything, okay,
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: and so yeah, so that's why we started talking about that.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: Then I think a month later, my back got worse
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: and I hern he added two discs and then one
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: of them was a sequestered fragment, so it broke off
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: into like five pieces into my spinal cord, meaning like
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: my nerve pain was like through the roof. So I
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: wanted to basically like saw my leg off, like and
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: my roommate over like one night, it's like coming out,
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: it's like three am, and she's.
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: Like, what are you doing?
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: And I'm like lying on my back on the like
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: with my feet up on the couch, being like trying
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: to find any position possible that I can fall asleep
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: in because I'm I'm literally going crazy. I think got
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: to like three weeks of like twenty minutes sleep at night,
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: Like I was a mess.
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: It was in so much pain.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: And after seeing like I was just basically ubering to
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: chiropractice and doctors, amazing.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: Chiropractor actually Matthew Devoux, anybody he needs one, He's the best.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: And then after much back and forth, the only answer
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: was going to be surgery.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: And again, being someone that was so dependent on your
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: body beyond you know, the everyday task also for your livelihood,
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: that must have been a really big mental struggle.
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it definitely was.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: But what was funny about it, which maybe because I
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: discovered cebitting around the same time. Like like everyone like
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: I'm generally emotional, Like I'm not completely heartless.
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: It's okay, but I'm.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: Saying through this like back in the past, like a
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: year earlier, if you told me that I couldn't work
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: out for twenty four hours, I'd kind of get really
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: hantsy and almost like have a bit of a panic
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: attack because I love working out, like I fucking love it.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: You I need that release for me it's a stress reliever,
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: it's everything. So to actually be told that you can't
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: work out now for three months and I didn't actually
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: get upset. I got more upset on a vacation for
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: not working out for twenty forty eight hours than I
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: did in the entire time through my spinal surgery, which
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: for me blows my mind because I'm a full on psycho.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: Every ex boyfriend I ever had a life, yeah, you've
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: got a problem with working out. I'm just so addicted
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: to that feeling. So to go from that to not
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: being able to work out was crazy. But actually how
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: I coped with it mentally was also kind of crazy.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: It was a real self awakening, like, oh wait, I'm
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: a lot stronger than I think I am. But also
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: I think when, as we would say, when shit really
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: hits the fan and you have no choice, you kind
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: of body goes into that mode of like damage control
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: and you're like, this is what I can do.
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: That's fine. I'm just going to make the best of it,
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean?
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I totally hear you. I totally also share
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: that mentality that when I can't work out, I kind
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: of go into panic mode. I think it's really impressive
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: that you did what you could with what you had,
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: instead of letting that kind of anxiety trigger some bad
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: habits or just i mean, put you emotionally in a
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: bad place. I really genuinely want to say that I
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: would have handled it the same way, but I can't
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: for sure you go through something like that.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: Honestly, if you'd asked me, I would never say I
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: would have handled it like that at all. Yeah, but
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: even down to like the weight gain side of things,
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: let's get really real, Okay, I can't work.
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: Out my whole body is my whole job? Is my body?
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: You mean? And what you look like and this and that,
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: and yes, we're all about being body positive.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: At the same time, I'm paid a lot of money
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: if I look a certain way, do you know what
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: I mean? So then all of a sudden, I've gained
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: twenty pounds. There's nothing I can do about it. But
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: that in itself was weird. I was laughing with my
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: girlfriend saying it was almost like I was like being pregnant.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: You have no control.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: So as soon as you have no control, it's like, well,
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: I can't work out, I can't do anything about it. Yes,
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: I've gained weight, but it's fully not my fault and
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: it's like, there's nothing I can do about it. It
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: puts a really different spin on it in your head
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: and you're okay with it. And so now coming out
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: of all this, like my friends will say, I'm in
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: the best head space they've ever known me as like that,
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: I will say, and I laugh about it that like
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: spinal surgery is the best thing that ever happened to me.
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: It really was, because I'm so much more chill.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: I'm like like, yeah, I'm still overweight, Like I'm still
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: like fifteen pounds heavy.
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: I don't know what I was. I don't care. It's fine.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm happy with who I am like, and it
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: just makes such a difference to how you're mentally hold
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: out to look kind everything, And it's like, do you know,
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: at the end of the day, it doesn't actually matter, right,
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean? I know, I'm like working
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: my ass off and I'm trying my absolute best. I'm
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: like I've got fifty side hustles because that's who I am.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: I will always be that person. And it's been great. Yeah.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And you mentioned before the power of affirmation. So
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: are there other are there any other types of mental
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: exercises or anything that you do on a regular basis
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: to kind of keep that inner voice in check.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: I think affirmations are so key. I think it's really
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: even Like I remember, I'd wake up in the morning.
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: Be like I just don't want to go to work.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: I'd like, like, you know, this is the mental thing
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: of like.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: Oh, it's just gonna suck typical.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: I remember one day being like, today is gonna be
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: fucking amazing, and I was like, I was like so
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: deadpan faced, but I'm like, no, say it, just fucking say.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: And so it is that thing of like that con
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: know it sounds crazy, It's that constant repetition to yourself.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: So now it's like and I have a joke with
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: like my roommate and everything that it's like, Today's going
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: to be amazing, no matter what, even no matter how
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: salty and shitty I am on the inside or hungover
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: or whatever the hell it may be, or I know
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: today's gonna be a nightmare, and I'm basically not going
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: to sit down for eighteen hours straight. It's to wake
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: up and just be like, today is going to be amazing.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: Because if you even just tell yourself that from the
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: get go. It makes such a difference because you can't,
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: no matter what type of shitty mood you're in, you
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: can't say today's going to be amazing in about and
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: like it not crack you up because it's funny because
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: you don't feel that at all.
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: But it's fine. I mean, it's kind of getting yourself
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: into that headspace before you even start.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: I'm also a like chronic manifesto, like I really am.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: I almost feel like it's a superpower at the moment,
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: So I will channel it to you, guys, don't worry
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: about I could use it. I got you, I got you.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: But I'm all about like creative visualization, so like really
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: talk about things in my head like they are happening
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: and it's past tense and it's already happened, and just
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: like focusing on it like it's happening and it's going
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: to be amazing.
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: Why wouldn't it if there's no other option?
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: Can you give me an example, I feel like there's
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: a spoiler alert ahead or something.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: No oh, like things like it happened, but like things
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: like the chocolate or like the visa for example, Like
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: I was crazy with that and my whole family, and
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: everyone thought I was fully nuts, and I'm like, even
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: when I want it, they're like it's fake. I'm like, no, no,
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: it's real. But even down to like working with certain brands,
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: you know, and I'm like.
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: This is a goal. This is such a goal. This
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: is such a goal.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: And like like when I when I first did my
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: personal training set, I'm like, oh my god, if I
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: could one day work it somewhere like such and such,
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: that would be the dream.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: And I got the job. Then I was like, say,
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: when I moved here, I'm like, oh, I just want
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: to like Equinox. I've got to work at Equinox. I've
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: got a job at printing house.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: Things like really setting goals for myself on my inside.
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: I don't tell anybody these things.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: Now, I like saying it out loud because I'm like,
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: it's kind of funny to like, because then when it
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: does happen, I'll be like, hey, remember when I said that,
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: And I was like, yeah, I got it.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: And also saying it out loud helps you stay all sometimes.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: Definitely, And that's why I think I've also learned to
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: not keep anything, as you know, very much an oversharer
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: I can't keep anything to myself about myself, do you know.
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: What I mean?
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: And that's fine, and I just I think it's healthy,
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: Like I don't think some people are way too secretive
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: with like projects they're working on or what they're doing.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: And I think, particularly being an entrepreneur as you know
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: as well, I think the best way to succeed in
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: this field is to share. And the more you share,
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: Like I could be talking about something I'm working on
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: and you might be like, wait, I've got a friend
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: of a friend that can help you, and you don't
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: realize how many doors that opens so many people, Like
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: I'm working on something, but I don't want to tell
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: you yet, just in case you copy. And it's what
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: really like a week child, Like there's enough space for everyone.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: There really is, So it's kind of to work collaboratively
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: and build people up rather than like we're not against
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: each other.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. When I sat down with Christy, God, so
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: this is so long ago now, but Kirsty was telling
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: me along the same lines of just like there's no
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: better feeling than being somebody else as cheerleader and showing
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: up for the people that you care about. And if
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: you feel if you feel some kind of way about
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: somebody else's success, then usually that actually just says something
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: about you. And maybe you're insecure about what you're doing
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: or that you're not working hard enough, and you just
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: have to show up and be happy.
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: And that's the thing, and I think it's it's things
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: should always be collaborative, so it should never be a
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: competition at all.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: And I just it kills me because I speak on
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: so many panels like doing, like seeing so many different
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: things and talking about being an entrepreneur all the time,
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: and the amount of people that still can't get that headspace.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: It's just it's so sad, it is it is. Okay,
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: So now where does the chocolate company sit? Because you
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: were focusing on that a little bit while you were
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: coming back from this injury. What was okay wait pause,
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm so excited, storyteller.
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: I've got so many things.
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: No, it's cool, it's cool. Okay. So at this point,
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: what happens to your bod after this surgery? Like what's
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: the recovery time?
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: Like, yes, I have surgery.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: It was a lot, so I couldn't do anything at
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: all for about two months or so, and then I
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: was allowed to use the standmaster, which was like finally
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: some things like it's.
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: A big deal. Yeah, and then yeah, I recovered very well.
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: I really did.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: But essentially I don't have a disc L four L five,
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: so I didn't get a spinal fusion. I just got
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: the particles like taken out. So instead that means that
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: I can't do anything. So I can, but I can't
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: like I can't really do hit training. Again, I can't
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: really run because when I run, I'll feel a bit
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: of a tweak in my back. So I still have
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: two herniated discs. Now I've just trained. I now train differently.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: I trained smarter. I'm also thirty two. There's no reason
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: for me to do two hours of exercise a day,
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: like there really isn't. My body is not equipped for that.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: But I am not necessarily born an athlete, do you
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: know what I mean? Yeah, so that does not come
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: natural to me. So I think for my body particularly,
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: I can't do that. And that's okay, do you mean,
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: like it's not who cares?
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: It's fine?
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: What happened to those forty five clients? You had a week?
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: We chat occasionally, so I've given them. I've like kind
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: of dispassed them to trainers that I recommended. I've kept
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: about like it's maybe like eight sessions a week. I
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: still do those, and then I'll do like guest sessions
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: with certain people and things like that.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: Right, but it was hard, and you're still teaching group classes.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm back teaching group fitness finally, which is great.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: I've cut that down a lot as well, so I'm
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: only doing twice a week now instead of five times
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: a week, and then I'll do a lot of events.
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: And then how do you feel?
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: I feel pretty great, to be honest, I just know
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: I need to be careful. Do you know what I mean? Yeah,
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: Like it's just things happen, do you know what I mean?
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: Like, and I think I've just got I'm more able
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: to read my body than I was before. But like,
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: for example, right now, I have a broken rib because
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: I was coughing, Like are you kidding me?
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: I'm like, what the hell?
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: But it's just like but it's kind of like okay.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: Usually I'd be like, oh, it's fine, I'll just like
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: work out past it, but now I might no, just
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: just listen, I just don't, you know what I mean?
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: So I'm just as you are broken red know.
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: I don't even know.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: That's so sad.
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: No, it's it's kind of funny. It's almost comical at
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: this point. That's great.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: I'm just slowly falling apart. Oh my god, you gotta
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: be careful back no good. And then where is the
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: chocolate sit now? Because you've done so much with that,
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: I've seen it everywhere.
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so the chocolates.
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: Now we've launched our business officially, it's go basic. So
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: the whole thing is the only thing basic about us
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: is our ingredients. Let's go basic, b extra. So I've asked.
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: All the time, name your day on a plate, what's
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: your ideal day? What should I eat? What should I eat?
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: And it's kind of like annoys me a little bit,
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: like I get it, but it is a bit frustrating
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: sometimes because essentially, like no fad diet is gonna work,
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: like there's no there's no miracle this is. And so
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: the whole thing was go back to basics. Don't eat
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: things out of a packet, Like I'm a widow. I
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: know I am, but like I've never ordered in seamless
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: in my life, you know, I mean, And now I'm
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: so stubborn.
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: I will never order in seals. Yeah, and it's kind
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: of like cook at.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: Home actually, like go back to real food, and so
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: that's how we started. We got the name Go Basic
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: because it's bringing everything back to basics. All there are
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: things are real ingredients. There's noble shit involved at all.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: It's things you can snacks, you can travel with because
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: we travel so much as you do as well, and
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: when we get to an airport or anything like that,
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: there's no options, you know, and so there's no healthy
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: snacking options for you when you're on the go, and
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: if you're always on the go, it's just annoying.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I hear that. Okay, so you have regular
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: chocolates that come in a little package. You have what
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: are you what kind of stuff do you have?
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: So we've got our edibles, so it's the CBD chocolate.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: So right now we've got our regular flavor and then
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: we just launched Rows and then we've got two new
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: flavors coming out in the month, which is exciting. And
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: then we also have protein balls nice so they're yeah,
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: they're like.
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: Raw, vegan, gluten free, paleo volcanic.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: All those millennials.
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: And then we're actually about to launch our range of spreadables,
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: which would be awesome.
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: So wow, I know.
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: So it's gonna be jars of like spreadable edibles and
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: then spreadable cookie dough, and like, I really feel like
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: this might this might be a game changer.
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: I'm like putting it out there now, guys.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: You can witness this right now.
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: But it's it's like crack. I don't know how I've
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: done it. I'm really wow.
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: And these are all things that you're kind of crafting
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: from the get go in your kitchen and messing around
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: with them.
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: Wow, and then forcing Jill to taste it and be
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: like what about this? What about this? Let's do this.
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: It's impressive that you've never ordered seamless? Is that a vert?
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: Is that true?
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: That's true?
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: True?
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: No, I know.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: And so now that I've now it's like that thing
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: of like telling people to make me accountable.
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: I will never ort to see what do you do?
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: You just not eat if it's like really late and
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: you're tired and there's nothing around.
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: No I cook, No matter what, I will cook. So
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: I'm I'm a bit of a I think it's because
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: my New York life is not real. Okay, our lives
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: aren't in New York are ridiculous. It's a very not
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: normal things, you know what I mean. So cooking is
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: something for me that grounds me. It's a stress reliever,
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: but it also makes me feel normal.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: You.
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: Yes, I'm traveling half the month all the time, and
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: I'm always around, I'm running around like crazy and whatever.
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, I find out
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: I can come home, I can cook, I feel normal.
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: It's great. I still love anyhow, don't get me wrong.
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: Like I'll lay it out like two or three times
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: a week, but at the most part, I always cook,
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: and I do like my weekly grocery shop.
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a thing. It's a process, and I just
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: need to stick with it.
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: For someone who wants to be really healthy but feels
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: like they have no time to prep anything, what would
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: be like a couple of go to suggestions you would
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: offer them if they're coming home at like eat thirty,
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: they're zonked and they just need to make something okay.
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: So honestly, I like, I have a couple of Instagram
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: highlights about this because and I do it with the
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: timer as well, Like I can do dinner in six minutes, okay,
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: and everyone can do dinner in six minutes. So it's
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: it's like basically, pick three vegetables, okay, you chop them
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: up your pan, frying them in coconut oil.
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: Then you're picking.
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: Maybe two spices, one spice, doesn't even matter, covering it
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: that sort, hanging them until they're like kind of brown.
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: Then you're putting them aside, like so in a bowl.
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: I love a bowl. I'm a big fan of a bowl.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: Guys, by the way, you're from Australia.
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: We love that.
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: So then it's so great. So veggies are done, they're
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: sitting to the side. Then it's like two handfuls of
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: spinach in a bowl, throw the veggies on top. Then
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: if I'm being really lazy, I'll like crack two eggs, great,
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: cook them.
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: That's it done.
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: Then it's like half an avocado sour kraut, and like
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: that you're done.
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: Wow, and it's actually delicious. But I like doing like
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: little stories on Instagram to show.
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: People how quick it is because with all my cooking
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: and all my recipes, nothing no matter what, even when
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: if people have for dinner, we'll take more than twenty minutes.
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: It can't because cooking just can't take up that much time.
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: Too.
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: So then tell me, aside from cooking, how else do
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: you release stress as someone that's constantly on the go.
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: I think it would be Yeah, cooking obviously. Yes, Instagram's
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: a bit of an outlet for me. Sometimes it's just
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: kind of weird because it's just nice, like that creative element.
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: I like it.
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: And then working out. I still love working out, ye,
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: but if I get out of New York. For me,
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: it's like anything outdoors. I love the outdoors, so hiking.
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: If I could hike every day, I'd be the happiest
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: girl in the world.
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: I love it so much.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah. How's that on your back?
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: Amazing?
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, really good for my back.
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: So I think that's why I'm now loving all these
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: like non impact things.
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: That's great, all right, So we're starting to wind down here.
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: A question I love to ask people. If you look
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: back right now on your last six years in New York,
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: as you've been building your brand, what would you say
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: has been one of the best pieces of advice that
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: someone has offered you.
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: Oh that's such tough fun.
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: Look, I think I was brought up with the mentality
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: of like and this is literally words for my mother,
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: like like literally like fuck, what everyone else thinks, as
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: long as you're happy, healthy and you're not harming yourself,
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: we don't care.
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: Like and you're like, as long as you're doing you're absolute.
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: Whatever you do when you as you're growing up, or
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: like when you know, when what I want to do
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: when I grow up, whatever it is, It's like, if
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: you want to be a garbage collector, you just be
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: the best fucking garbage collector you can. And so it's like,
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: whatever you do, make sure you're the best at it,
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: and just keep working at it until you're.
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: The best at it.
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: But I've that has been like ingrained in me my
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: entire life. I've always just I've just I have to
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: do things. I won't release a product or do anything
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: if I know it's not going to be the best
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: on the market or it's not a contender for the
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: best on the market, because why half as say anything.
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: So I think that because it's been mentality I've been
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: grown up with, has really stuck with me. Especially being
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: in New York and being away from everyone and being
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: in a city that hustles all the time. I think
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: that's something that's really been major.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: How often do you go back home?
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: I try to go back once a year, but recently
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: it's been more than that, So once or twice a year.
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and now I'm assuming you have a little
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: bit more of a community than you ed still here.
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's for me, like this is more home than Australia.
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: I love Australia, it will always be home, but New
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: York is so home for me.
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: I love it. It's great.
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: You have an opportunity right now to offer the back
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: who is suffering through three simultaneous injuries pretty much a
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: piece of it. Base looking back on that hurtle moment, Now,
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: what do you tell her?
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: Uh, it's going to get so much worse.
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: So you're really upset about a broken foot, right, Well,
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: I was like because when I hurt my foot, I
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: had that many like oh my god, this is awful.
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: And I was more upset about my foot being broken
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: than my spinal surgery because I had no idea that
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: the spinal surgery was coming to right, So I think
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: I would have told myself to just chill, it's gonna
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: be fine.
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: Because like, this's the best way to take it.
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: And so I think maybe the pre injuries to the
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: surgery really made me deal with the surgery so much
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: better because I did not deal with those as well
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: as I did the surgery.
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: Right, Oh my god, I am. You're a little ball
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: of injuries and you're broken rib and you're broken but
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: actually fine.
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: But it's funny my whole life.
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: Never I've never had an injury, so I think it's
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: I guess I just heard it all in like the
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: space of a year, which is fine.
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: Catching up. Well, you're a bad ass back. Thanks so
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: much for coming in and hanging out with me.
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: Let's do this all the time.
• 55:00
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• 55:10
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• 55:18
  Speaker 1: Where do they find you? Where do they find go Basic?
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: Give me the deats?
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: So many things?
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: So my Instagram Sweat with Back, My website is sweet
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: with pick dot com, Sweat with Back everything, and gred
• 55:30
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