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Why affordability should be leadership’s yardstick · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

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  It's time for Truth Be Told with Booker Scott.
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  And welcome in to another edition of The Truth Be Told.
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  I am Booker.
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  We have a lot to talk about tonight.
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  I have a lot on my list, a lot of things are going on.
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  We're going to try to get through all of them here in this hour.
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  As we start this hour, though, let's pay attention to what's happening in Washington State.
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  There has been a flood that is going on right now.
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  They have evacuated 100,000 people in Washington State to make sure that they stay safe.
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  A lot of people are without electricity, and this also goes into Canada, into British Columbia.
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  So say a prayer for those people, pay attention to what's going on there in Washington.
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  It is a terrible time of year with the holidays coming that people are having to deal with this destruction.
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  So keep an eye on what's happening in Washington.
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  Let's move on into Donald Trump's speech that he gave in Pennsylvania a couple of nights ago.
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  It was a rally, and he has not done one of these since he has been president in his second term, the 47th president of the United States.
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  I think it was a pretty good move.
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  You know, I think the Democrats have been winning the messaging war, and they keep bringing up the affordability.
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  Affordability, this and that, and Donald Trump hasn't brought down the prices.
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  He said he would.
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  He hasn't.
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  So I think it was a good idea for Donald Trump to get out in front of the people, be on television and let the American people hear what he has done and what it will do.
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  And it's important to understand the things that he has done so far are going to take a little time.
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  You have to have some patience here.
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  And I know most of us don't, especially when maybe we're living paycheck to paycheck.
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  It's hard.
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  I get that.
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  But the things that he has done are going to make a difference.
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  You have to go back to the big beautiful bill.
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  They passed it in July, and what it did was extended tax cuts that he did in his first term of presidency.
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  That was going uh all of those tax cuts were going away at the end of December this year, so they had to extend that, or everybody's taxes would have gone up.
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  But he also did no tax on tips.
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  Social Security, you can now make up to 75,000, and they give you a tax credit of six thousand.
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  They also expanded child tax credit.
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  None of these things are going to be felt yet in your bank account or in your paycheck.
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  You will fill them after you do your taxes.
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  So the W2s are going to come out at the end of January.
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  Then you will fill out your tax forms.
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  You will turn those in and you should get a bigger return.
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  So then money starts flowing in then for the economy.
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  Why is the economy like it is?
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  I think most of us know now.
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  I have uh documented it pretty well on this program.
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  When you put the trillions and trillions of dollars into the economy that the Democrats and Joe Biden did, and quite frankly, the Republicans did too.
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  They did the same thing.
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  They were right along with them.
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  We went up to seven trillion dollars in annual spending.
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  And when you add that much money, you go from about five trillion to seven trillion, yeah, the economy's gonna get messed up and it has.
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  But there are some indications that what Donald Trump has done with deregulation in oil and the tariffs, that prices have come down on some things, like gas, for instance.
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  A barrel of oil has been hovering around sixty dollars a barrel.
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  That's down from almost one hundred when Joe Biden was in uh in power.
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  Gas is two ninety-five a gallon, which is is really nice.
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  So we can celebrate those things.
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  Price of eggs, they've come down from six dollars a dozen down to about two fifty, three dollars, depending on where you are.
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  I know it's different.
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  If you're listening in California, you've said you're saying, Well, what is he talking about?
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  295 gas.
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  We don't have anywhere close to that.
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  Washington State, I mentioned them at the top of the hour.
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  They're another one that would be paying a lot more for gas.
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  It depends on where you live because you have state taxes and your state tax is really high in places like California and Washington.
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  Where I am in the state of Florida, I'm paying two seventy-five right now, which is below the national average.
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  Just depends on what your state taxes are.
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  But the point is a barrel of oil is down since Donald Trump has been in office.
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  And there are indications that, you know, with inflation being at 2.7%, 2.8%, it's much lower than the nine percent that Joe Biden got to.
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  Our cost went up for 20%.
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  So and I don't want to keep beating this horse to death here on this.
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  But I think messaging is important, and I think it is important for the Republicans to get out in front of it.
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  And you hear both Democrats and Republicans right now talking about affordability.
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  It seems like they are trying to make that what the twenty-six midterm is going to be about as we look ahead to the twenty-six midterm.
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  Believe it never stops in this country, unfortunately.
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  It's always about an election.
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  And unfortunately, we don't talk about solving problems enough.
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  We only talk about getting elected.
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  And we pick well you know, a subject, uh, abortion or illegal immigration or guns.
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  We pick a subject, a single issue, and we make that about the election.
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  And uh meanwhile, American people are hurting, credit card debt is higher than it's ever been, and Donald Trump goes on the road, and let's hear what he says about affordability.
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  And no higher priority than making America affordable again.
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  That's what we're gonna do.
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  And again, they caused the high prices, and we're bringing them down.
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  It's a simple message.
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  It is a simple message, and it's one that Donald Trump tried to drive home in his Pennsylvania rally.
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  And here's a little bit more of Donald Trump talking about the Democrats and what they did over the last four years with Joe Biden in office.
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  If you have a smart president who works out well, if you have a dummy, does it had a great economy?
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  We had the greatest economy in our country's history, but we had what's called the greatest economy.
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  This is the first term, probably ever of any country now.
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  In addition to that, we rebuilt our military.
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  We got the biggest tax cuts ever.
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  We got the biggest regulation cuts ever.
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  We had the best job numbers.
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  We had a great first term.
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  Or frankly, to be honest with you, I wouldn't be standing here because if I had a bad first term, you know, you might say, I like him.
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  He's really good.
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  But lousy first term.
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  You're not gonna vote.
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  You voted for me because we had a great despite all of the Russia Russia Russia bullshit.
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  And he's right.
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  And by the way, that's the wrong clip.
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  That is not the clip that I was looking for, but that is Donald Trump there on the road in Pennsylvania, talking about his first term, and he wouldn't be standing here and being the 47th president if he hadn't done such a good job in his first term with the economy.
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  And that's really what it came down to in the last presidential election.
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  People were tired of illegal immigration, they were tired of Joe Biden doing stupid things like electric vehicles and not cooking on gas stoves and men breastfeeding women and DEI and the wokeness.
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  American people got tired.
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  But they're still tired because things have not become affordable, and that is the issue.
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  Let's listen to Kevin Hazlet of the Trump administration.
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  He talks about the Democrats.
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  I think this will be the right clip.
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  Exactly right.
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  I thought his speech last night was fantastic.
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  And uh he really, really enjoyed having the charts again.
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  I can tell you that that's some feedback we got from from yesterday because the pot of line is that the Democrats are out there saying things that are false and and like they're not holding up charts telling you what's going on.
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  But you know, we have a chart that showed that the typical family buying a new home, uh, saw their mortgage rate there go up uh at an annual rate by fourteen thousand dollars because of Biden's inflation and the high interest rates that followed from it.
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  Speaking of interest rates, the Fed met this week and they have lowered the overnight lending rate, a quarter of a point, 25 basis points, and hopefully that will trickle down to mortgages.
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  We get the mortgages down and the housing can increase because right now, new starts on housing, it has slowed down all across the country.
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  And that the economy is connected to so many things, not just the trades, but then you also have lumber, and you have and you remember lumber and how hard it was to get there back during COVID.
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  I don't think that's a problem anymore because building has really slowed down over the last couple of years.
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  Here's more of Kevin Hazett.
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  And so, you know, people who have to pay 14,000 a year more just to have their home.
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  Of course, they were harmed a lot by Biden, but already because we've been uh getting closer to a balanced budget and leaving uh interest rates down even before we control the Fed more, uh, that we've saved a couple thousand dollars of that fourteen thousand already.
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  So we're making great progress.
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  We made huge progress uh in the last term, and right now all of the indicators are that the three percent growth that we gave you last time is a really, really low ball estimate of what we're gonna be able to deliver because we've got the AI boom making productivity go through the roof.
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  We've got eighteen trillion in new factories being built.
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  We're actually tracking the groundbreakings.
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  We're up through about thirty of them since September.
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  And so the economy is booming, jobs are growing, and but people were absolutely harmed.
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  And so again, and the president went through every single price of everything in the in the charts, and he did a lot of it last night.
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  You know, the bottom line is the the if you were just a typical family, uh your month's groceries cost.
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  $400 when President Trump left office and it cost almost $550 when Joe Biden left office.
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  So that extra $150 a month after paying also $14,000 more a year for your mortgage.
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  It really adds up to a lot of stuff that has to be fixed.
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  And of course, that is a little bit of spin there when it they talk about uh $14,000 additional for mortgages.
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  Unless you refinanced or bought, you didn't pay a higher interest rate.
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  If you're locked in from seven, eight years ago when interest rates were almost nothing in Donald Trump's first presidency, then you're still locked in there.
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  So that really is maybe not a fair thing to say in comparison.
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  If you had bought a house when Joe Biden was president, you would have paid $14,000 more.
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  Or the price was lower on the house.
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  Everything is kind of relative when it comes to uh buying a house and mortgages.
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  I want to talk about something else right now.
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  I want to get into uh Erica Kirk being on Fox News and the death of uh Charlie Kirk was a terrible thing.
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  It was an assassination and execution.
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  And when you go through the evidence of what happened that day, you have a lone shooter that was loose for 33 hours.
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  His own father turned him in.
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  He has confessed a couple of times to authorities there.
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  There's really no doubt about it.
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  And if you remember the guy that uh that shot Charlie Kirk, he also had a boyfriend that was a trans, someone, you know, that was transitioning into a transgender female, I guess, from a guy.
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  I don't even know how all of that works, but that's what was happening there with with that guy.
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  And he executes Charlie Kirk live there on television.
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  Everybody saw that video, it was terrible.
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  There was a huge funeral memorial, and then the conspiracy theories started.
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  And I just think that they are disgusting.
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  Charlie Kirk left a bride, he left a couple of children, young, young children.
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  His son, uh what is he, a year old, very, very young child, Charlie Kirk left.
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  And uh people on social media and other places, they have these conspiracy theories going that are just absolutely nuts.
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  I try not to spend a lot of time on it at all.
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  I think I've done one other segment uh over the last three months that talked about it, and the reason why is because I just don't want to give it any any legs, because there are no legs to be had.
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  You would almost have to be the dumbest person in the world to believe that the FBI covered this up when you have all the evidence you have.
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  It is the the easiest slam dunk case in the history of murders that has ever been.
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  And yet there are people that are spreading uh just false claims is what they are.
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  And they're walking on the grave of Charlie Kirk.
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  And it's disrespectful to his family, to his wife, and there are some people that are saying that it's even turning point USA.
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  There are people inside Turning Point USA that had him killed through Israel and and there's Egypt involved and Mossad and that it is crazy.
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  It it's crazy is what it is.
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  And Erica Kirk went on Fox News, and for the first time since Charlie Kirk's death, she denounced all of that.
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  And I'm glad.
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  Just a little background here.
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  Candace Owens is really the one that's doing the most of this.
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  And I believe she's completely lost it.
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  I believe she's completely lost it.
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  She now thinks the French government is after her.
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  Of course, McCron and his wife, they have sued her because the Candace Owens spread the theory, the conspiracy theory that Bridget McCrone has a penis and was a boy.
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  And that's not true either.
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  And she has been sued by them in Europe and now in Delaware as well for millions of dollars.
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  And now she's spreading this about Charlie Kirk.
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  And it's unfortunate.
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  You know, Candace Owens worked at Turning Point at one time.
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  They split ways, and then she went to uh the Daily Wire with the Ben Shapiro.
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  They had their falling out.
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  There is a pattern there with her.
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  She kind of wears out her welcome, doesn't she?
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  A year or two, one place, and she's gone.
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  If you look back at her history, she was uh uh Obama supporter.
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  She was back in two thousand sixteen.
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  She wrote for the liberal organization.
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  Uh that's what she did prior to all of a sudden becoming a conservative.
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  Is she a conservative?
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  I don't know.
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  Maybe she's a political operative.
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  I don't know.
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  But she's not good at what she does in bringing truth.
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  She's good at bringing conspiracies, and that's all she does.
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  And Erica Kirk, I guess, is pretty much had enough of it.
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  Erica Kirk was nice in saying that uh she felt for these people because they probably felt for Charlie Kirk, but she also denounced it and said there is no truth to the fact that what Candace Owens is saying about people in Turning Point turned on Charlie Kirk and had him killed.
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  And when I say that, I I'm like, that that's crazy.
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  It's crazy that I just said that.
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  That somebody is actually saying that and and believes it.
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  And by the way, Candace Owens has 10 million or more followers on all of her social media platforms.
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  She reaches a lot of people.
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  And it really gets back to something I've said since the beginning of this show, which is coming up on three years.
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  Next week will be three years here on America Out Loud Talk Radio.
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  Truth is truth.
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  There is one truth.
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  There's only one truth.
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  You can't have your truth.
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  I can't have my truth.
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  They can't have their truth.
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  There is the truth.
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  That's all there is.
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  And while some people may claim to be a citizen journalist, that also is not true.
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  Just because everybody has a phone doesn't make everybody a journalist.
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  I'm not a journalist.
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  I'm someone with an opinion.
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  I try to bring you some truth.
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  When I bring you an opinion, I bring you an opinion.
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  We need to make sure that we can discern the difference between speculation, subjective truth, and the truth.
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  And some people out there trying to be citizen journalists don't have uh the the first idea of what it takes to be a journalist.
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  They've never taken a class.
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  They don't know anything about corroborating a story.
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  They put uh just a little bit of truth.
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  Those are the best lies.
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  You put 50% of the truth, seventy-five percent of the truth.
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  It becomes a better lie.
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  There are a lot of people making a lot of money doing this right now.
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  Just pay attention to who you are paying attention to.
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  As we head into the break here, let's listen to Donald Trump and maybe the top ten funniest things Donald Trump has ever said.
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  Here they are.
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  They couldn't God bless you, Bobby.
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  I hope I didn't catch COVID just there.
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  What is it?
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  You've got tax novel.
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  He's doing a press conference there with uh Body Kitty.
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  You shouldn't.
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  Is that a dog?
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  Uh uh.
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  Saturday, I had a little low-grade fever.
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  Uh oh.
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  That was Burks, the scarf lady.
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  Remember her from COVID.
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  She said Saturday I had a little fever.
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  Donald Trump says, uh oh, he threw his hands up and walked away.
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  So I got a test late Saturday night, and I'm negative.
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  I stayed home another day just made a face, by the way.
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  She's shocked that I picked her.
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  Like in a state of shock.
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  I'm not thinking about that.
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  That's okay.
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  I know you're not thinking.
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  You never do.
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  I'm sorry.
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  No, go ahead.
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  He's talking to a mainstream media reporter.
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  Awfully good that someone with the temperament.
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  Because you'd be in jail.
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  Secretary Clinton.
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  That was one of the best that Donald Trump ever did.
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  And I think about uh family traditions and the memories that we have from when we were young, and really that was what Christmas was at that time in our life.
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  And as time goes by and we lose people in our family, you know, traditions change, and we have the opportunity to make new memories.
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  And one of those uh new traditions that I started probably about 10, 11 years ago, my 13-year-old daughter and I go out and select a live Christmas tree every year, and we're looking forward to doing that.
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  And uh, you know, Christmas to me is about the birth of Jesus Christ, the savior.
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  In Venezuela, things are heating up, and we've talked about this for a while.
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  We have very many military assets from America.
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  We moved a carrier group that got down there in October.
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  Before that, you had F-35s that were down there.
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  We've had B-52s flying over Venezuela.
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  We thought this was a regime change.
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  By the way, Machado, who won the Nobel Peace Prize, accepted that last night, so congratulations to her.
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  A lot of people thought Donald Trump could should win it, but maybe that will come next year.
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  It takes a little time for that process to go through.
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  She was ahead of him because he just took office in January of this year.
• 24:15
  But back to Venezuela.
• 24:17
  U.S.
• 24:17
  forces seized an oil tanker off the coast of Venezuela.
• 24:21
  This is what President Donald Trump said.
• 24:23
  You know, I had thought that there was something gonna be coming on the land.
• 24:27
  You know, that's what a lot of people were worried about that there were going to be land strikes in there, and I had not even thought about us taking over an oil tanker coming from Venezuela.
• 24:38
  A lot of the Venezuelan oil, which it's a rich country when it comes to oil, is going to Russia and going to China.
• 24:44
  It's going to our adversaries.
• 24:47
  Very smart here.
• 24:48
  This is a good play by them.
• 24:50
  There are sanctions on Venezuela.
• 24:52
  They have not been enforced.
• 24:54
  Well, Trump said this.
• 24:55
  We have just seized a tanker on the coast of Venezuela, a large tanker, very large, the largest one ever seized, actually.
• 25:04
  And doesn't that sound like Trump?
• 25:06
  And they also released a video, and I don't know if you've seen the video of it, but it is pretty impressive what our military did flying over the tanker with a helicopter.
• 25:15
  Our military came down ropes with guns, and they went on the tanker and they took it over.
• 25:21
  And this uh crude oil tanker, it is used to transport sanctioned oil from Venezuela and Iran.
• 25:28
  That's what the they do to get around the sanctions.
• 25:31
  Well, Caracas, that country, they swiftly denounced the action, calling it an act of international piracy.
• 25:39
  And earlier in the day, President Maduro declared that Venezuela would never become an oil colony.
• 25:46
  The Trump administration accuses Venezuela of funneling narcotics into the U.S.
• 25:50
  and has intensified the efforts to isolate Maduro.
• 25:55
  Venezuela, home to the some of the world's largest proven oil reserves, has in turn accused Washington of seeking to steal that oil.
• 26:05
  The Brent crude prices, which I mentioned oil, barrels of oil earlier in this hour, they went up a little bit on Wednesday.
• 26:12
  I'm sure they will come back down.
• 26:14
  U.S.
• 26:15
  Attorney General Pam Bondy, who leads the U.S.
• 26:18
  Department of Justice, said the Federal Bureau of Investigation, Department of Defense, Department of Homeland Security, and the U.S.
• 26:24
  Coast Guard coordinated the seizure.
• 26:27
  She said, quote, this was on X, by the way.
• 26:30
  For multiple years, the oil tanker has been sanctioned by the United States due to its involvement in an illicit oil shipping network supporting foreign terrorist organizations.
• 26:42
  And I think that's pretty good news.
• 26:44
  That's one way to if you're gonna put sanctions on, you better be able to enforce it somehow.
• 26:49
  And this is one way that those sanctions can be enforced.
• 26:51
  If they're going around it using these shadow tankers that maybe don't necessarily belong to Venezuela, and they're trying to go around your sanctions using other countries, this is one way to do it.
• 27:03
  You just take the oil, and then that's going to cripple uh Venezuela and Maduro even more.
• 27:10
  But this whole Venezuela thing with the narco boats is kind of taking on a life of its own when it comes to the Secretary of War Pete Hagseth, and even to a degree about Donald Trump.
• 27:21
  You have people like Rand Paul talking about the War Powers Act, and you have Democrats in the Senate and the House.
• 27:28
  They are talking about it too, especially when it comes to that September 2nd uh killing of the first narco boat.
• 27:36
  And Admiral Holsey, who was in charge of that part of the world for the Navy for the United States, he had about a 40-year career.
• 27:44
  He was pushed out at the end of August in 2025.
• 27:49
  September 2nd was that first attack on a narco boat.
• 27:52
  So if you connect those, and this is a little speculation on my part.
• 27:56
  I try to tell you the truth, but I also tell you some speculation and opinion.
• 27:59
  This would be some of that speculation.
• 28:02
  Holsey, Admiral Holsey was pushed out at the end of August.
• 28:06
  September 2nd began the bombing and the killing of the narco boats down near Venezuela.
• 28:13
  In that first one, if you remember, they didn't kill everyone on the initial strike, and they came back, and about an hour, hour and a half later, they killed two what they are calling survivors.
• 28:24
  Now, Pete Hexeth and Admiral Bradley, Admiral Bradley.
• 28:29
  He went into a classified setting with members of the House and the Senate, and he told them that he made the decision.
• 28:35
  It wasn't Pete Hagseth that made that decision.
• 28:37
  It was him, and there were Jag lawyers there that there was a bunch of people there that made the decision because the two people that they are calling survivors were actually trying to save the narcotics that they blew up on that boat.
• 28:52
  So they went back and they struck them again and they killed those two people.
• 28:56
  And that has blown up politically.
• 28:58
  And I think there's more to this story than maybe what people are talking about.
• 29:02
  But here is Senator Chuck Schumer talking about this and the opportunity to try to get some information from Secretary of War Pete Hagh.
• 29:10
  Now finally, this afternoon.
• 29:13
  Secretaries Hegseth and Rubio and top officials will brief the gang of eight.
• 29:18
  He's talking about Wednesday afternoon.
• 29:20
  I plan to confront Secretary Heg on exactly what the hell is going on in the Caribbean.
• 29:28
  I plan to demand Secretary Heggs, give the total unedited videos of what happened in the September second boat strikes.
• 29:43
  Trump originally agreed to do this, but now they're afraid.
• 29:46
  What's hexeth hiding?
• 29:48
  And second, I will demand of Rubio and Hegseth what the hell is going on in the Caribbean.
• 29:54
  And in Venezuela.
• 29:55
  Didn't he say that already?
• 30:00
  Trump has already talked about Venezuela waters and even going and going attacking Venezuela on the United States.
• 30:10
  He's lost it.
• 30:10
  How far do they intend to go?
• 30:12
  It's all political rhetoric is what it is, but why is it?
• 30:16
  I always like to ask that question.
• 30:18
  Why is it this has become such a big deal over these narco boats?
• 30:23
  They are bringing fentanyl and cocaine into this country, cocaine laced with fentanyl.
• 30:28
  It's killing 70,000 Americans a year.
• 30:31
  Donald Trump has said that the cartel there in Venezuela is a terrorist organization.
• 30:38
  Maduro is the leader of that.
• 30:41
  The de facto leader.
• 30:42
  He allows it in Venezuela.
• 30:44
  Donald Trump is trying to stop it.
• 30:46
  He's doing what everybody else has said.
• 30:48
  I played for you Monday night, Joe Biden saying the same words.
• 30:53
  Even Chuck Schumer in 1986, he agreed with the maritime law that said this is a very dangerous thing.
• 31:01
  These boats bringing uh uh cocaine and drugs into America, and it has to be stopped.
• 31:06
  Chuck Schumer said that.
• 31:08
  He voted for that in 1986, and now you hear him say this.
• 31:12
  Let's go to Senator Kennedy and get some thoughts on him on the narco boats.
• 31:17
  Venezuelan boat strikes.
• 31:18
  Uh huh.
• 31:19
  Could the White House put some of this speculation to rest if they were to just release the entire video of the strike that killed those two survivors?
• 31:26
  Yeah, I'm fine if they release released the video.
• 31:29
  I haven't seen them.
• 31:30
  I haven't seen any of them except on social media.
• 31:33
  You think they should just release this.
• 31:34
  I'm fine with it.
• 31:35
  Yeah, I'd like to see them myself.
• 31:37
  Now will they do that or not?
• 31:39
  I don't know.
• 31:39
  What are the national security implications?
• 31:42
  I don't know.
• 31:43
  But they supposedly have been coming around doing picking select group of senators to show them the video and and um, but I haven't seen them yet.
• 31:55
  I mean, I honestly um if if I were keen for a day, I'm not don't aspire to be, but I'd ask Senator or uh Secretary now, Rubio to just call a press conference and let him explain to the American people the uh the legal basis for doing this, uh what national security shows about this without divulging uh classified information.
• 32:22
  I'd bring along uh Secretary Hedgehog as well.
• 32:26
  And just answer questions and tell people don't have any more questions.
• 32:30
  So both sides of the political aisle in the Senate are asking that this video be released, and they want to see it and they want to get to the bottom of it.
• 32:38
  But let's connect these dots here.
• 32:40
  That's what I want to do here, because I believe what is happening is the Democrats are setting up impeachment 3.0 for Donald Trump should they win the House in 2026 in the midterms.
• 32:52
  And it looks like right now, according to betting odds that they will.
• 32:57
  It's about 80% that uh the Democrats will take over the power in 2026.
• 33:02
  That's according to polymarket.
• 33:04
  Polymarkets where you can go bet on anything, and you can bet on that.
• 33:08
  Right now it's 80% that the Democrats would win the midterm.
• 33:12
  And if they do, and I've talked about this a lot.
• 33:14
  I don't want to beat a dead horse here again, but there will be impeachment after impeachment.
• 33:20
  Whether Donald Trump gets removed or not, I highly doubt it, but you never know.
• 33:24
  You just never know.
• 33:26
  So let's connect these dots for you.
• 33:29
  You have the seditious six that come out and they talk about illegal orders from the president.
• 33:36
  They tell the military, do not follow the illegal orders.
• 33:40
  You have you're bound by the Constitution, they said, not by what the President Trump will tell you to do.
• 33:46
  Those illegal orders.
• 33:48
  What are illegal orders?
• 33:49
  Now go back prior to that to Admiral Holsey.
• 33:53
  What was being said in August between Admiral Holsey and Pete Heggseth about what they were going to do in Venezuela?
• 34:01
  There was a brush up between the two.
• 34:04
  Holsey, he suddenly retired at the end of August.
• 34:09
  September 2nd was that first bombing of a narco boat.
• 34:14
  Then you have the Seditious Six saying you don't follow illegal orders.
• 34:19
  You follow the Constitution.
• 34:21
  And if you start putting these things together, to me in my mind, as I look back at the impeachment, the first impeachment, you had a military guy, Alexander Vendman.
• 34:33
  Remember him?
• 34:34
  Yeah, he was one that testified in the impeachment.
• 34:37
  Now you have Holsey, Admiral Holsey, and they're setting up this illegal order for a reason.
• 34:45
  And I think it's important that we understand where this may go.
• 34:50
  Because this may be what they use for impeachment.
• 34:54
  We'll just have to wait and see how this goes.
• 34:56
  Donald Trump, he says, I think it's over.
• 34:59
  Here he is saying that.
• 35:00
  Mr.
• 35:00
  President, has Secretary Hudson told you why he hasn't released the video of the Senate strike.
• 35:05
  No, I haven't told.
• 35:06
  I thought that issue was dead.
• 35:08
  That you suppress you bring it.
• 35:09
  I mean, you must be.
• 35:11
  You must be seeing it.
• 35:12
  Lawmakers are still talking about it on the hell.
• 35:14
  Are you seeing it?
• 35:15
  I am saying it.
• 35:15
  Don't you?
• 35:16
  I'm shocked to find out.
• 35:17
  The lawmakers aren't still talking about it on the hell.
• 35:19
  Well, I'll tell you, I don't know about lawmakers.
• 35:21
  Which lawmakers you're talking about.
• 35:25
  I mean the people actually it's lawmakers on both sides of the political aisle, and this issue is not dead.
• 35:31
  Most Americans get their news from mainstream media, not just CNN.
• 35:36
  But everybody is reporting on what is happening in Venezuela right now.
• 35:40
  So I don't know if Donald Trump has a grasp on this or if he's just being flippant for a reason with the CNN reporter trying to make a point that this is not an issue.
• 35:52
  And it's also very similar to what they impeached him for the first time, which was the one perfect call.
• 35:59
  Remember, Trump kept saying it was a perfect call, and it was, if you remember back, he was only asking people in Ukraine, hey, check this out because you have this barisma thing.
• 36:08
  You had Joe Biden go over, and he suggested that uh a prosecutor be fired.
• 36:14
  If not, they weren't going to get a billion dollars, and the prosecutor was fired.
• 36:17
  That's what happened.
• 36:18
  That is reality, that is truth.
• 36:20
  And then Donald Trump got impeached for uh saying you may want to take a look at this.
• 36:26
  This doesn't look good to me.
• 36:28
  It looks like you have some corruption, and then you have military Alexander Venman and a whistleblower.
• 36:35
  And that's how things happened in Donald Trump's first presidency.
• 36:39
  It was a complete lie.
• 36:40
  There was no reason for him to be impeached on that.
• 36:44
  There's no reason for him to be impeached on Venezuela either that I know of.
• 36:50
  But look at what they are doing.
• 36:53
  It looks to me like the same playbook that they used before.
• 36:58
  Holsey disagreement with Hagseth in August.
• 37:01
  He leaves the end of August after a 40-year career.
• 37:05
  He was the admiral over the area of Venezuela.
• 37:08
  He doesn't want to do what Pete Hagseth and the Trump administration is doing, which is blowing up narco boats.
• 37:15
  And because of that, he leaves after a 40-year career.
• 37:21
  Did he perceive that as an illegal order?
• 37:24
  And if he did, is that why we got the seditious six?
• 37:28
  And if that is why we got the seditious six, is this going to lead to an impeachment?
• 37:34
  If the Democrats they gain power again in 2026.
• 37:38
  And that's why Republicans have to go vote.
• 37:41
  If you don't go vote in big numbers and keep power, and if the gerrymandering doesn't work, then the Democrats, they are going to have power in 2026.
• 37:52
  And you will see Donald Trump be impeached.
• 37:56
  Is this going to be the reason?
• 37:58
  We'll keep watching.
• 37:59
  By the way, important uh decision made by the judge of the grand jury in New York on the Epstein case.
• 38:06
  He has agreed to allow that grand jury testimony to be unsealed.
• 38:12
  So that means both New York and Florida have agreed to unseal grand jury testimony, which is very odd.
• 38:19
  So by December 19th, we're gonna have all the Epstein information, and finally we can put that one to bed.
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  Tonight at nine o'clock, it is after dark with Robin Andrew before that, the national security hour.
• 41:07
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• 41:13
  I'm Booker Scott with Matt Christensen.
• 41:16
  And let's start here in this segment with Antifa because finally somebody is cleaning up some areas of this country where Antifa has taken over, isn't that right, Matt?
• 41:27
  Well, it was a very odd scene in Portland over the weekend.
• 41:31
  And if you followed what's happened outside of this ICE facility in Portland, uh it has been absolute insanity since June.
• 41:38
  It has been uh not just your typical criminality of evandalizing the facility and uh assaults on journalists who are there documenting what's happening.
• 41:48
  But this is the first time that I've seen um what they're calling weaponized noise making.
• 41:54
  These are like uh megaphone.
• 41:56
  I don't I don't know what they do to modify these megaphones and make them so loud.
• 42:02
  Yeah, they they're so loud that they're causing neighbors in the in in the neighboring apartment building to come out and just tear into them and yell at them.
• 42:09
  And there was actually a lawsuit against the city in Portland for refusal or failure to do to enforce their their noise ordinance.
• 42:18
  But all of this months-long uh conflicts going out going on outside of the ice facility in Portland, Portland police largely standing by, allowing what had become an encampment to continue.
• 42:30
  And it was it was an actual camp where people were sleeping, living, like a homeless camp with an activist purpose is what was going on there.
• 42:39
  And finally, on Saturday, Portland uh city of Portland sends in Portland police all kinds of video out there from uh Nick Sortor and uh Nick Shirley and some other reporters on the scene.
• 42:50
  Portland police outright saying we we know we haven't really enforced the law against you guys.
• 42:56
  That is to say, like this in campman is not necessarily legal.
• 42:59
  Uh, your blocking of the streets has not been legal.
• 43:02
  Your public uh consumption of alcohol is against city ordinance, but now that's over, and we're gonna start enforcing that.
• 43:10
  And so they swept the camp.
• 43:13
  They it was it was Antifa move out day on Saturday night.
• 43:17
  Looked like a bunch of them leaving the college dorm at the end of the semester, and it's all cleaned up now.
• 43:22
  And the mayor of Portland uh issued a statement saying, well, we made the decision to get this cleaned up because it had become dangerous down there.
• 43:32
  Implicitly blaming some of these conservative journalists for you know provoking conflict or something.
• 43:37
  Well, we saw Nick Sorder get arrested there.
• 43:40
  Yeah, that was uh a few a few weeks ago.
• 43:43
  That's right.
• 43:43
  Yeah.
• 43:43
  And so that that's why it doesn't, of course.
• 43:46
  I'm I'm not gonna believe much of what Portland City leadership says ever.
• 43:50
  But to me, it doesn't make any sense their explanation that this had recently become uh violent or criminal.
• 43:58
  It's been violent and criminal the entire time.
• 44:01
  So you wonder why are they doing this now?
• 44:04
  That was my question.
• 44:04
  You have any idea because I've seen these Antifa people, they're actually directing traffic.
• 44:11
  You know, they boot the police out of the way and they're directing traffic, telling you can't come in, you can't come in.
• 44:16
  And so why do you really think they are doing this now?
• 44:20
  I think it has a lot to do with the movement in the uh the federal court case on Trump's attempt to deploy the National Guard department.
• 44:27
  He's been trying to do this since the start of September.
• 44:29
  It's been tied up to District Court judge tied up his original attempt to deploy the Oregon National Guard, then the attempt to get around that by deploying the California National Guard.
• 44:39
  The movement is there is we were awaiting a decision from the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals that came out on Tuesday night, and it wasn't exactly clear where that was going to go.
• 44:52
  I think they were trying to get out ahead of that decision and some movement from the Ninth Circuit.
• 44:57
  The Ninth Circuit has now decided that they're going to review the district court decision, one of which, or that the pro it was it actually wasn't a district court decision, it was a Ninth Circuit uh three-judge panel decision that would have allowed the National Guard deployment to go forward.
• 45:13
  They're now going to review that decision with an 11-judge panel.
• 45:17
  But my thinking on why this is happening now, I think that state of Oregon, City of Portland, they want to beat Trump in court.
• 45:26
  And one of the key arguments about why this National Guard deployment is necessary is the circumstances on the ground.
• 45:33
  That is to say, if if enforcement of the law is not possible through the usual means, that is a justification potentially for the president to federalize and deploy the National Guard.
• 45:44
  If, however, the circumstances on the ground are totally normal, that's a key Trump argument that is taken off the table.
• 45:51
  Yeah.
• 45:51
  It doesn't make a lot of sense to me, though, in that, okay, you beat Trump in court by doing what he wanted you to do.
• 45:59
  Right.
• 45:59
  So is that a win?
• 46:01
  I the strategy is not totally clear to me, but I'm convinced that the decision to remove the camp has something to do with the movement in the court case about the National Guard.
• 46:12
  That's a good point.
• 46:12
  Uh, the president of the United States, regardless of who that is, they have a right to use National Guard to protect federal buildings and or ICE federal agents, they can do that.
• 46:24
  And it shouldn't take a court to come in and say you can do that if that's all Trump is going to do in this case, which I think that's all he is.
• 46:31
  I mean, every time he sent somebody in or the National Guard in, it's been two or three hundred people.
• 46:36
  It's not thousands of troops, as the Democrats would say.
• 46:39
  I don't know if you saw this.
• 46:40
  I covered it on the program last night, but Cash Patel announced the arrest of nine people from the protest back in June over the ICE agents.
• 46:49
  So that was good news.
• 46:50
  This is good news out of Portland as well.
• 46:53
  Let's move into Arctic Frost real quick.
• 46:56
  What do you make of this?
• 46:57
  I see that the you know, the house wants this investigated and uh they're all upset.
• 47:04
  I, you know, I keep asking the question: why now are you upset?
• 47:07
  Why weren't you upset over the last four or five years when all of us were being spied on by the Federal Bureau of Investigation and our bank accounts being spied on?
• 47:17
  Now suddenly it's you.
• 47:18
  And I saw that there were 197 subpoenas issued for about 430 Republicans, Republican organizations, even turning point USA was one of those.
• 47:30
  And every one of those subpoenas was signed by none other than Judge Bosberg.
• 47:37
  And now really, yeah, I saw Byron Donald's calling for his impeachment.
• 47:42
  It's time for him to go.
• 47:43
  And you know, what are you making of all of this?
• 47:46
  Do you think this is actually going to go anywhere?
• 47:48
  Or do you can you see or say that uh, you know, Jack Frost in investigating this would want to know all of the truth and get to it, or did he just weaponize it like he has done everything else?
• 48:01
  Yeah, I haven't followed this one extremely closely, so you might have to catch me up on some of the details.
• 48:05
  But of course, uh I I've followed the weaponization of the Justice Department under Joe Biden throughout his entire tenure, and that's why I get such a kick out of the warnings of a weaponized justice department now.
• 48:15
  Imagine what would happen if our legal system were turned, were turned against uh people for political reasons.
• 48:21
  Wow, what a what a crazy country that would be.
• 48:25
  But but I'm looking at some of the the news coverage right now.
• 48:28
  So, okay, the the fundamentals of this uh scandal here, it's that the the Biden's FBI had subpoenaed 197 Republican and General.
• 48:37
  430.
• 48:38
  Yeah, correct.
• 48:39
  430 with 197 subpoenas.
• 48:42
  Yeah, correct.
• 48:42
  Okay.
• 48:43
  And do we know what their aims were, or they were just trying to obtain records from these people and these groups for what reason?
• 48:50
  Do we have clear?
• 48:51
  I would think it had to do with January 6th.
• 48:54
  That's about the time frame that this was taking place.
• 48:57
  So they were investigating them in what they were doing around January 6th, the quote, insurrection, unquote, when that happened.
• 49:05
  That's where this goes back to.
• 49:07
  Yeah, we know Jack Smith did a bunch of this uh pursuant to his uh his his former case against uh Joe Biden.
• 49:14
  So this would this would make sense.
• 49:16
  And you think about the implications of January 6th and uh the political tool that that became.
• 49:22
  But this is one angle of all of that, uh, you know, depending if you if you believe that January 6th had a lot of opportunism about it, whether it was designed that way or not.
• 49:34
  One one angle I haven't thought a lot about is just the potential openings for spying on your political opposition generally.
• 49:41
  I mean, it's possible this thing was so much broader than just damaging uh the outgoing president to try to ruin his at that point assumed run in the future that we saw in 2024.
• 49:53
  But man, I mean, this whole thing could have been and perhaps was the pretext to just go after political opposition.
• 50:00
  Much more generally than Donald Trump.
• 50:02
  And I I think it's January 6th, skeptical and critical as anybody, but the depth of this, I just not considered I I didn't, I didn't think it was necessarily that broad in aim if it was really about going after political opposition far beyond just Donald Trump.
• 50:18
  Well, now if you go all the way back to 2016 and the Hillary Clinton Donald Trump election and the Russian hoax and 51 Intel officers saying that it wasn't uh Hunter's laptop before the Biden Trump uh election, it they've been doing this for eight or nine years now.
• 50:36
  And you had uh a clapper, Brennan, Comey, Obama, Biden, all involved in that, even the unmasking of General Flynn, if you remember that.
• 50:46
  That took place in January of 2017, right before Trump came into office.
• 50:51
  All of this, I believe, is tied together.
• 50:54
  The problem is what crime was committed.
• 50:57
  That's what I can't understand.
• 50:58
  And I try to manage people's expectations that you know, they everybody's going to get mo.
• 51:03
  Well, nobody's going to get Mo.
• 51:05
  You know, that's just not going to happen.
• 51:07
  There is no plan, and I don't know what crimes have committed, which takes me into a conversation about the autopen because that's picking up.
• 51:15
  We see that a House judiciary has sent it for referral, and maybe the House Oversight, actually, with James Comer.
• 51:22
  Is that going anywhere?
• 51:25
  Uh so to clarify, I'm not aware of a of a ref of any kind of criminal referral coming out of that.
• 51:31
  Well, it was a referral to the DOJ to look into it.
• 51:34
  Not a criminal referral.
• 51:35
  If I said criminal referral, that's not right.
• 51:37
  Okay, maybe I misunderstood what you meant.
• 51:39
  But um, but yeah.
• 51:40
  Um so yeah, the the Oversight Committee has investigated uh Biden's use of the autopen.
• 51:46
  They have determined that because he was in mental decline throughout his presidency, and we can't we don't have contemporaneous written evidence of his consent to these pardons, that they should be presumed void, which you might have some questions about that, but that's that's their position.
• 52:04
  Um and they've they've sent uh a letter to Pam Bondi saying please investigate this.
• 52:09
  And you know, theoretically, there might be some additional records at the Justice Department that maybe Congress hasn't seen yet or or something that maybe Pam Bondi could assist in that way.
• 52:19
  But this is a very uh it's very interesting uh situation because you have fundamental constitutional questions, that is to say, if House Republicans are right, and Joe Biden didn't have knowledge of the people he was pardoning, and he he told the New York Times in July he did, but you know, do we believe him?
• 52:40
  That's up to you.
• 52:41
  You have the legal question there of like it is the presidential pardon power as broad and almost unrestricted as it is, is that delegatable to others?
• 52:52
  But you have the subsequent question of if it was wrongly done, uh how do you go about challenging that?
• 53:00
  And the only way I can think of doing that, because you can't just if you're Pam Bondi, you can't just bring a lawsuit to a court and say we don't think these are valid.
• 53:10
  I I don't know how that would play out.
• 53:12
  The only way I could see this happening is they would have to to charge an attempt to prosecute one of the pardoned people.
• 53:20
  So when you Hunter Biden is not one of the autopenned guys, that one was actually signed by Joe Biden.
• 53:26
  If you want to test this, you'd have to go after Fauci, Millie, Adam Schiff, the January 6th committee.
• 53:34
  To me, uh the most interesting way to go about it would be to bring a charge against Fauci.
• 53:39
  I've said the same thing, Matt, for a while.
• 53:41
  Yeah, that's the only way you can do it.
• 53:43
  And then when you look at the auto pen, I can't find a law for exactly how the auto pen is supposed to be done.
• 53:50
  And I would love to see the Republicans right now make a law.
• 53:54
  You know, there needs to be a law.
• 53:55
  Here's the protocol.
• 53:57
  It has to be done this way.
• 53:58
  And if it's not done this way, it's not a signature of the president because there's there's nothing there.
• 54:03
  Even that would have a lot of legal questions because whatever Congress says by statute, does that how does that apply to what is otherwise a constitutional provision?
• 54:14
  Like can can Congress even set the rules of pardoning?
• 54:17
  Probably not, uh, unless it's by constitutional amendment.
• 54:21
  Well, and but for the use of electronic signature is what I'm talking about specifically.
• 54:27
  More broadly than just pardon.
• 54:28
  Yeah, yeah, for everything on an electronic signature.
• 54:31
  Here is the law.
• 54:32
  You have to do it this way.
• 54:33
  Five people have to see that the president agrees with this and wants this done, and he said, put my signature on it.
• 54:40
  There needs to be something like that because there's nothing now, which I think because of that, they're gonna run into problems and people's expectations are going to be much greater than they probably should be with this.
• 54:51
  Yeah, I was talking about this on my stream last night because like you, I'm not trying to sell a bunch of false hope, like, oh man, they're gonna bring the charge against Fauci and they're gonna get him and the Biden autopen pardons are gonna be undone, and it's gonna be this double whammy that's amazing.
• 55:05
  I don't think any of that's going to happen.
• 55:08
  But I do to me, you you can file this with the Comey prosecution, the Letitia James prosecution, neither of which I think are likely to be successful, but I still think they're necessary.
• 55:21
  I would like to see the DOJ make a move in an attempt to prosecute one of these pardoned guys, just to test it.
• 55:29
  I I think I think ultimately the courts, I think even the Supreme Court would say, you know what, that's a very broad constitutional power.
• 55:35
  We're not touching it, they play it safe.
• 55:37
  Yeah, it's got to be tested somehow.
• 55:39
  Yeah, I mean, uh what are your thoughts on that?
• 55:41
  Would you like to see them try it or is it?
• 55:43
  Absolutely.
• 55:43
  Yeah, no, I think I I said the same thing.
• 55:46
  I believe I said it with Matt Palumbo one night, probably two or three months ago.
• 55:50
  That's the only way to get this to the Supreme Court is to actually go through the process and then have them say, No, I've been pardoned, I'm appealing this, you can't prosecute me.
• 56:00
  And then it ends up in the Supreme Court, then we can get an answer on this.
• 56:04
  And I really believe that's what the Donald Trump administration, the Department of Justice is going to have to do when it comes to the pardons.
• 56:11
  They are going to have to prosecute somebody.
• 56:13
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