Latest / Brett Keane and Eve Show / Zoanthropy @ttor13 God Uses Atheists like @Paulogia @ShannonQ Bible God Time @brettkeane Live

Transcript

Zoanthropy @ttor13 God Uses Atheists like @Paulogia @ShannonQ Bible God Time @brettkeane Live · Brett Keane and Eve Show

• 1:26
  Those. Banana.
• 5:09
  And two spaces. What are we living for abandoned
• 5:16
  places? I guess we know the score.
• 5:24
  Does anybody know what we are? And now the eyes cry behind the
• 5:36
  curtain to take it.
• 5:48
  Anymore. Whatever happens.
• 9:49
  I wish I. I don't feel like I need any
• 11:28
  rainbow flag signs or signals to alert them.
• 11:30
  Around me that I am a homosexual.
• 11:32
  Yo, like my sexuality part of my personality.
• 11:34
  As a matter of fact, I like to keep the two completely fucking
• 11:37
  separate. There's a difference.
• 11:38
  I've been down my personality to get me places in life and I
• 11:41
  don't need anybody to feel bad for me because I eat pussy.
• 11:44
  I mean for fuck's sake, we lit up the White House with rainbow,
• 11:47
  Colours back. When Obama was in, I'm swapping
• 11:49
  word, the we need, we can get married.
• 11:50
  I mean, I see more rainbow Flags available for purchase than the
• 11:53
  red white and blue ones that there is no pride in
• 11:56
  indoctrinating children in schools.
• 12:07
  There is no pride in stripping parents of their right to
• 12:09
  protect their children. There is no pride in sexualizing
• 12:23
  children at drag shows. There is no pride in mutilating
• 12:37
  and sterilizing children, in the name of gender affirming care.
• 12:41
  This June, what are You proud of because we have some issues that
• 12:44
  we need to talk about. We're fighting back from inside.
• 12:49
  The community, join gays against Brewers in the battle against
• 12:52
  radical gender ideology. That is destroying her youth.
• 13:06
  That's funny. Brett, thank you.
• 13:08
  Keep your hello. Ladies and gentlemen, this is
• 13:11
  Brett keen and you were listening and watching the Brett
• 13:13
  King show tonight. We've got some good stuff to eat
• 13:17
  yours. Got some great topics.
• 13:18
  We're going to be listening to And discussing and tto.
• 13:22
  How's your day been before we get into it.
• 13:25
  That's been pretty good. Just relaxing.
• 13:28
  After a long week of work enjoying video games and
• 13:32
  prepping for this live stream and Also, hoping that now that I
• 13:36
  got my computer plug directly into the modem next to me,
• 13:40
  through my ethernet cord that I won't have any issues like the
• 13:43
  last two weeks. Were you able to connect your
• 13:48
  your stream? Yep, says I'm live on my Channel
• 13:52
  right now. Oh wow.
• 13:54
  Cool. Oh yeah.
• 13:55
  So something need up at the top. Yeah, very cool.
• 13:59
  Very cool. Yep.
• 14:01
  So the tto are is going to be hosting the Brett Keen.
• 14:04
  Show tonight. Ha ha.
• 14:06
  No, I did not hijack. Brett's Channel.
• 14:07
  He's just let me do it. No, I've always enjoyed what
• 14:11
  you've had to say. Always loved your videos.
• 14:14
  I think it's time for Brett Keen to sit back and listen to some
• 14:17
  good stuff and have a good discussion with you.
• 14:21
  So what's our first topic? And what is the inspiration?
• 14:25
  Well, for a long time. Now, I've been very fascinated
• 14:29
  by the stories in the Bible regarding King Nebuchadnezzar
• 14:34
  and Daniel and his friends and I've also been interested in the
• 14:37
  prophecies around. Cyrus the Great God issued
• 14:41
  before Cyrus was ever born. And yet accurately predicted
• 14:45
  what he was going to do. As far as his military conquest
• 14:48
  goes and how he was going to free God's people from captivity
• 14:52
  and let him go back to the Holy Land to rebuild their Temple.
• 14:55
  So I've been wanting for a long time to make videos on my
• 14:59
  channel talking about those things but I never got around to
• 15:02
  actually doing it especially when I have this hole.
• 15:04
  Change of occupation recently. So I figured hey, as a
• 15:08
  livestream topic tonight. Why not?
• 15:10
  Talk about that particular thing.
• 15:13
  We're going to be talking about how God sometimes uses
• 15:17
  non-believers, in order to accomplish his will.
• 15:22
  And we're going to look first at the people.
• 15:25
  In particular, I mentioned King Nebuchadnezzar, also known as a
• 15:29
  Nebuchadnezzar, the second and we'll be looking at Cyrus the
• 15:32
  Great but then after We look at the bible stuff around, those
• 15:36
  guys will get into some more contemporary, maybe even
• 15:40
  personal examples, maybe even some examples that you wouldn't
• 15:44
  think about for how God uses non-believers, to accomplish his
• 15:49
  will. So before we go into the more
• 15:52
  modern part of that Affair, let's get into the issue.
• 15:56
  The stories of Cyrus, the Great and King Nebuchadnezzar.
• 16:01
  Now that me go ahead and prepare my green.
• 16:04
  Oops, that's not it. The screen share.
• 16:08
  Do do, do, do do do. Yes.
• 16:11
  We're gonna go ahead. Okay.
• 16:16
  Well, do entire screen. All right, allow.
• 16:24
  All right. Can you see my entire screen?
• 16:26
  All right. Can you see Bible Gateway on the
• 16:29
  screen? Yeah, it's coming through clear
• 16:33
  their guy by the way your camera and sound is perfect.
• 16:36
  There's been no issue good at the Priestly consult my notes.
• 16:42
  I yes that's why we have this first passage up for when King
• 16:47
  Nebuchadnezzar was about to go to Jerusalem to Israel and
• 16:52
  basically lay waste to all of them and all the best of them
• 16:56
  off to captivity for 70 years. There were a lot of people in He
• 17:01
  has time. Who are saying?
• 17:03
  Oh yeah yeah, King Nebuchadnezzar is going to come,
• 17:05
  but he's not going to overtake you.
• 17:07
  He's not going to destroy your nation.
• 17:09
  He's not going to defeat you in battle.
• 17:11
  You're going to defeat him and there's all this glorious stuff
• 17:14
  is going to happen. And so, the Prophet Jeremiah
• 17:17
  since, he was actually speaking from the Lord, unlike these
• 17:20
  false prophets decided to correct the record.
• 17:23
  And we see that correction of the record here, and Jeremiah
• 17:27
  20:7 1 through 11, which says the following Early in the reign
• 17:33
  of zedekiah, son of Josiah, king of Judah.
• 17:35
  This word came to Jeremiah from the Lord.
• 17:38
  This is what the Lord said to me, make a yolk out of straps
• 17:42
  and crossbars and put it on your neck, then send word to the
• 17:45
  kings of Edom, Moab, and Ammon, Tyree and sidon through the
• 17:49
  envoy's who have come to Jerusalem to zedekiah King of
• 17:52
  Judah, give them a message for their masters and say, this is
• 17:56
  what the Lord Almighty the god of Israel says, tell this to
• 18:00
  your masters with my Great power and outstretched arm, I made the
• 18:04
  earth and its people and the animals that are on it and I
• 18:07
  give it to anyone. I please.
• 18:09
  Now, I will give all your country's into the hands of my
• 18:13
  servant Nebuchadnezzar King of Babylon.
• 18:16
  I will make even the wild animal subject to him.
• 18:19
  All nations will serve him and his son and his grandson until
• 18:22
  the time for his land comes then many nations and great Kings
• 18:26
  will subjugate him if however Any Nation or Kingdom will not
• 18:30
  serve. As their king of Babylon or
• 18:33
  ballots neck under his yoke. I will punish that Nation with
• 18:37
  the sword famine and plague declares the Lord until I
• 18:40
  destroy it by his hand. So do not listen to your
• 18:43
  profits, your diviners, your interpreter of Dreams your
• 18:47
  mediums or your Sorcerers who tell you.
• 18:49
  You will not serve the king of Babylon.
• 18:51
  They prophesy lies to you. That will only serve to remove
• 18:55
  you far from your lands. I will banish you and you will
• 18:58
  perish. But if any Nation will bounce -
• 19:01
  Neck under the Yoke of the king of Babylon and serve him.
• 19:04
  I will let that Nation remain in its own land to till it, and to
• 19:09
  live their declares the Lord. So something that a lot of
• 19:14
  people gloss over when they read the stories about
• 19:16
  Nebuchadnezzar. And the Israelites being taken
• 19:20
  into Exile in Babylon, they forget this Prophecy from
• 19:25
  Jeremiah where God literally calls King Nebuchadnezzar.
• 19:29
  His servant, even though, King Nebuchadnezzar was not only not
• 19:34
  a follower of God but he actually followed the fake gods
• 19:37
  of Babylon. But a way that Nebuchadnezzar
• 19:41
  was God's servant was in this way.
• 19:44
  God was going to use him to judge the Israelites for their
• 19:48
  constant, and never-ending Rebellion against him and his
• 19:52
  commands by having Nebuchadnezzar in the Babylonian
• 19:55
  Army come in, destroy their nation and take the best of them
• 19:59
  off into captivity. And as we saw in, The last few
• 20:02
  verses God made it. Clear that if you listen to
• 20:06
  these false prophets who were saying that you would not serve
• 20:08
  under Nebuchadnezzar and you try to stand against him, he would
• 20:12
  all be destroyed and this was with God's approval and by
• 20:15
  Nebuchadnezzar's hand. So the whole destruction of
• 20:19
  Jerusalem and Israel that led to the Babylonian exile for the
• 20:22
  Jews that was in a sense preordained that was something
• 20:27
  God said was going to happen and there was nothing you were going
• 20:30
  to be able to do about it. And it was actually his will,
• 20:33
  that Nebuchadnezzar would conquer them and take the best
• 20:36
  of them off to captivity in Babylon.
• 20:40
  Now, at PTR, what you're saying is this is a man that did not
• 20:45
  believe in God, but God seen him as basically a useful tool or a
• 20:51
  way to, you're implying, that God will actually protect some
• 20:55
  non-believers in order to make something actually happen.
• 20:59
  A conclusion that he Wills Yes. Essentially if there's something
• 21:05
  that his will determines that a non-believer needs to do as far
• 21:10
  as its serving, his greater will and plan than yes, he will do
• 21:13
  that as we're seeing with Nebuchadnezzar here and as we'll
• 21:17
  see later when we talk about Cyrus the Great.
• 21:21
  But I'm sure some people are thinking okay, nice, Revelation,
• 21:25
  Jeremiah, but what happened to you when the Babylonians
• 21:29
  actually came to conquer everybody?
• 21:32
  Well, we see in Jeremiah actually, you know what?
• 21:35
  Let me Let me just start with verse 1 through 14 so that we
• 21:41
  can get the bigger picture of what happened to Jeremiah, when
• 21:45
  the Conquering of Israel came by the Babylonians, we'll just read
• 21:51
  Jeremiah 39 1 through 14. That's the whole account, only
• 21:54
  four paragraphs in the ninth year of zedekiah, king of Judah
• 21:59
  and the 10th month, Nebuchadnezzar, King of Babylon,
• 22:01
  marched against Jerusalem, with his whole Army, and laid, Siege
• 22:04
  to it. And on the 9th day of the fourth
• 22:06
  month, Month of zedekiah his 11th year, the city wall was
• 22:09
  broken through, then all the officials of the king of Babylon
• 22:12
  came and took seats in the Middle Gate.
• 22:15
  Negril share res, ear of Sanger. Nebo sarthe secum, a chief
• 22:21
  officer nergal Shara xeric high official in all the other
• 22:25
  officials of the king of Babylon, when zedekiah King of
• 22:29
  Judah and all the soldiers saw them they fled they left the
• 22:32
  city at night by way of the King's Garden through the gate
• 22:34
  between the two walls and headed toward the Haribo but the
• 22:38
  Babylonian Army, pursued them and overtook zedekiah, and the
• 22:41
  plains of Jericho, they captured him and took him to
• 22:43
  Nebuchadnezzar King of Babylon at Rib.
• 22:46
  Le and the land of Hamas where he pronounced sentence on him.
• 22:49
  There at Rib, Le the king of Babylon.
• 22:51
  Slaughtered the sons of zedekiah before his eyes and also killed
• 22:54
  all the Nobles of Judah, then he put out zedekiah his eyes and
• 22:59
  bound him with bronze shackles to take him to Babylon the
• 23:02
  Babylonians Set Fire to the Royal Palace and the houses of
• 23:06
  the people and broke down the walls of Jerusalem.
• 23:09
  Ned Boozer Aden commander of the Imperial Guard carried into
• 23:13
  exile, to Babylon the people who remained in the city along with
• 23:16
  those who had gone over to him and the rest of the people.
• 23:20
  But neb Boozer, Dan, the commander of the Guard left
• 23:23
  behind in the land of Judah. Some of the poor people who
• 23:26
  owned nothing and at that time, he gave them Vineyards and
• 23:29
  Fields now, Nebuchadnezzar, King of Babylon.
• 23:33
  Get had given these orders about Jeremiah Through neb, azharuddin
• 23:38
  commander of the Imperial Guard, take him and look after him,
• 23:42
  don't harm him, but do for him, whatever he asks.
• 23:46
  So no booze are Adan. The commander of the Guard
• 23:49
  nebbish, as Ned Boucher has been a chief officer.
• 23:54
  Negril Char has a high official in all the other officers of the
• 23:57
  king of Babylon sent and had Jeremiah taken out of the
• 24:01
  courtyard of the Guard. They turned him over to get
• 24:05
  Elias, son of a, hey Ekam. The son of shaphan to take him
• 24:09
  back to his home. So he remained among his own
• 24:12
  people. So we see in a brief
• 24:15
  description, how the fall of Jerusalem went down and we see
• 24:19
  that as God's reward to Jeremiah for Faithfully prophesying, what
• 24:23
  was going to actually happen. He had Nebuchadnezzar and the
• 24:27
  Babylonian Empire spare, the prophet and don't harm him.
• 24:32
  Give him whatever he wants. Let him be of his own people.
• 24:35
  Leave him in peace. So I'd say he got a prophet's
• 24:38
  reward for being a faithful and true prophet of the Lord.
• 24:43
  So in case you're wondering what happened to Jeremiah when the
• 24:45
  fall of Jerusalem went down as the Lord prophesied through him.
• 24:49
  Well now, you know, And knowing is half the battle.
• 24:57
  So you are, you're bringing up a non believers in the, in the
• 25:02
  ancient times and days and all that that God is used.
• 25:06
  Do you believe that any of the things that some atheists do
• 25:09
  nowadays is useful to God, that he actually has some kind of
• 25:14
  will. Yes, I do have some thoughts on
• 25:18
  that being true, but I want to wait till later to share with
• 25:22
  those thoughts are because right now, we're focusing on King
• 25:25
  Nebuchadnezzar. Because if you look at history
• 25:28
  King, Nebuchadnezzar is not arguably the greatest King who
• 25:31
  ever lived, but he had according to God's own words, as we're
• 25:35
  going to see here in a bit in the scriptures, the greatest
• 25:39
  Kingdom that will ever exist in human history, until the Lord
• 25:43
  comes back in the stablish, has his own.
• 25:46
  So I'm going if Nebuchadnezzar first for discussion because
• 25:50
  he's arguably the greatest King ever who had the greatest Empire
• 25:53
  in kingdom ever and We can see that he even he was being used
• 25:58
  by God as an instrument of judgment upon the Israelites and
• 26:01
  as an instrument for his other purposes.
• 26:05
  And one of the things I was going to look at in the Book of
• 26:09
  Daniel, was that God revealed to Nebuchadnezzar personally, that
• 26:14
  Nebuchadnezzar would be the greatest King over the greatest
• 26:18
  Kingdom in human history. And that's what Daniel chapter
• 26:21
  2, verses 1 through 47 is about and this story, I find very
• 26:27
  fascinating for a lot of different reasons and we're
• 26:30
  going to read it in its entirety so that we can refresh the
• 26:33
  memories of those watching who may May not remember or don't
• 26:36
  know this story in the second year of his Reign Nebuchadnezzar
• 26:41
  had dreams his mind was troubled and he could not sleep.
• 26:46
  So the king summoned, The Magicians and enchanters
• 26:48
  sorcerer's and astrologers to tell him what he had dreamed
• 26:52
  when they came in. And stood before the king, he
• 26:54
  said to them, I have had a dream that troubles me and I want to
• 26:57
  know what it means. Then the astrologers answered
• 27:00
  the king, May the King live forever, tell your servants the
• 27:03
  dream and we will interpret It the king replied to the
• 27:07
  astrologers. This is what I have firmly
• 27:09
  decided. If you do not tell me what my
• 27:11
  dream was and interpret it, I will have you cut into pieces in
• 27:14
  your house has turned into piles of rubble, but if you tell me
• 27:18
  the dream and explain it, you will receive from me gifts and
• 27:21
  rewards and great honor. So tell me the dream and
• 27:24
  interpret it for me once more they replied.
• 27:27
  Let the king tell his servants the dream and we will interpret
• 27:31
  it. Then the king answered I am
• 27:33
  certain that you were trying to gain time I'm because you
• 27:35
  realize that, this is what I have firmly decided.
• 27:38
  If you do not, tell me the dream.
• 27:40
  There is only one penalty for you.
• 27:42
  You have conspired to tell me misleading in wicked things,
• 27:45
  hoping the situation will change.
• 27:47
  So then tell me the dream and I will know that you can interpret
• 27:51
  it for me. So I want to say at this point,
• 27:54
  that obviously King Nebuchadnezzar had a lot of Yes
• 27:57
  Man in his circles and he obviously was not a fan of
• 28:01
  having yes-men, because only someone who doesn't like, yes,
• 28:04
  men, I will tell you what you want to hear would ever make
• 28:08
  these kind of stipulations for interpreting his dream.
• 28:11
  Only someone who is tired of yes, men being around him with
• 28:15
  say okay I had this dream that disturbs me but I'm not going to
• 28:18
  tell you about it. You have to tell me what the
• 28:20
  dream was and then interpret it. And obviously these yes, men
• 28:24
  couldn't handle that request because they didn't have that
• 28:28
  kind of divine inspiration to figure out what his dream was.
• 28:32
  The astrologers answered the king.
• 28:35
  There is no one on earth who can do what the King asks, no King.
• 28:39
  However, Great and Mighty has ever asked such a thing of any
• 28:42
  magician, or enchanter or astrologer, but the King asks is
• 28:46
  too difficult. No one can reveal it to the king
• 28:49
  except the gods and they do not live among humans.
• 28:53
  This made the king so angry and Furious that he ordered the
• 28:56
  execution of all the wise men of Babylon.
• 28:58
  So the decree was issued to put the wise men to death and then
• 29:02
  were sent to look for Daniel and his friends to put To death,
• 29:06
  when arioch the commander of the kingsguard had gone out to put
• 29:09
  the debt to death. The wise men of Babylon, Daniel
• 29:12
  spoke to him with wisdom and tact, he asked the king's
• 29:15
  officer. Why has the king issue?
• 29:18
  Such a harsh decree, arioch event, explain the matter to
• 29:21
  Daniel at this. Daniel went into the king and
• 29:24
  asked for time so that he might interpret the dream for him,
• 29:28
  then Daniel returned to his house and explain the matter to
• 29:31
  his friends hananiah, mishael and Azariah.
• 29:35
  He urged them to plead, for Mercy, from the god of Heaven
• 29:37
  concerning this mystery. So that he, and his friends
• 29:40
  might not be executed with the rest of the wise men of Babylon
• 29:43
  during the night. The mystery was revealed to
• 29:45
  Daniel in a vision. Then Daniel.
• 29:47
  Praise the god of heaven and said, praise be to the name of
• 29:51
  God forever and ever wisdom. And power are his, he changes
• 29:55
  times and Seasons, he deposes Kings and raises up others.
• 29:58
  He gives wisdom to the wise and knowledge to the Discerning.
• 30:01
  He reveals deep and hidden things, he knows what lies in.
• 30:05
  Goodness and light. Dwells with it, with him.
• 30:07
  I thank and praise you. God of my ancestors.
• 30:09
  You have given me wisdom and power.
• 30:11
  You have made known to me. What we asked of you, you have
• 30:14
  made known to us the dream of the king then Daniel went to
• 30:18
  arioch whom the king had appointed to execute the wise
• 30:21
  men of Babylon and said to him, do not execute the wise men of
• 30:25
  Babylon, Take Me To The King and I will interpret his dream for
• 30:29
  him arioch. Took Daniel to the king at once.
• 30:31
  And said, I have found a man among the Exiles from Judah who
• 30:35
  Can tell the king. What is dream means?
• 30:37
  The king asked. Daniel also called belches are,
• 30:41
  are you able to tell me what I saw in my dream and interpret it
• 30:44
  Daniel replied? No wise man and chanter magician
• 30:47
  or diviner can explain to the king.
• 30:49
  The mystery he is asked about but there is a God in heaven who
• 30:52
  reveals Mysteries, he has shown King, Nebuchadnezzar, what will
• 30:56
  happen in days to come your dream?
• 30:58
  And the visions that pass through your mind as you were
• 31:00
  lying in bed? Are these as your majesty was
• 31:04
  lying? Are you to hurt your mind turned
• 31:07
  to things to come and the revealer of mysteries?
• 31:09
  Showed you what is going to happen as for me?
• 31:11
  This mystery has been revealed to me, not because I have
• 31:14
  greater wisdom than anyone else alive.
• 31:16
  But so that your majesty may know the interpretation in that
• 31:20
  you may understand what went through your mind.
• 31:23
  Your majesty looked and there before you stood a large statue
• 31:26
  and enormous dazzling, statue, awesome, and appearance.
• 31:30
  The head of the statue is made of pure gold, its chest, and
• 31:33
  arms of silver. Its belly And thighs of bronze.
• 31:36
  Its legs of iron its feet, partly of iron and partly of
• 31:39
  baked clay while you were watching a rock was cut out, but
• 31:44
  not by human hands. It struck the statue, on its
• 31:47
  feet of iron and clay and smashed them.
• 31:49
  Then the iron, the clay, the bronze, the silver, and the gold
• 31:52
  were all broken to pieces and became like chaff on a threshing
• 31:55
  floor in the summer, the wind swept them away without leaving
• 31:58
  a trace. But the rock that struck, the
• 32:01
  statue became a huge mountain and filled the whole Earth.
• 32:06
  This was the dream. And now we will interpret it to
• 32:08
  the king, your majesty. You are the king of kings, the
• 32:12
  god of Heaven, has given you dominion and power, and might
• 32:15
  and glory in your hands. He has placed all mankind and
• 32:19
  the beasts of the field and the birds in the sky, wherever they
• 32:22
  live, he has made, you ruler over them.
• 32:24
  All, you are that head of gold after you?
• 32:28
  Another kingdom will arise inferior to yours next.
• 32:32
  A third Kingdom. One of bronze will rule over the
• 32:34
  whole Earth. Finally there will be a fourth
• 32:36
  Kingdom, strong as iron for iron breaks and smashes everything
• 32:40
  and as iron breaks things to Pieces.
• 32:42
  So it will crush and break all the others.
• 32:45
  Just as you saw that, the feet and Toes were partly of baked
• 32:47
  clay and partly of iron. So this will be a divided
• 32:50
  Kingdom. Yet, it will have some of the
• 32:52
  strength of iron in it. Even as you saw iron mixed with
• 32:55
  Clay as the toes were part of the iron and partly clay.
• 32:58
  So this Kingdom will be partly strong and partly brittle, just
• 33:02
  as you saw the iron mixed of baked clay.
• 33:04
  So the people Be a mixture and will not remain United any more
• 33:08
  than iron mixes with clay. In the time of those kings, the
• 33:12
  god of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be
• 33:14
  destroyed, nor will be left to another people.
• 33:17
  It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it
• 33:21
  will itself. Endure Forever.
• 33:23
  This is the meaning of the vision of the rock cut out of a
• 33:26
  mountain. But not by human hands, a rock
• 33:29
  that broke the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver, and the
• 33:31
  gold to Pieces. The great, God has shown the
• 33:34
  king In what will take place in the future?
• 33:37
  The dream is true and its interpretation is trustworthy
• 33:42
  when King Nebuchadnezzar fell problem.
• 33:44
  Then King Nebuchadnezzar fell prostrate before, Daniel and
• 33:49
  paid him honor, in order that an offering and incense be
• 33:52
  presented to him. The king said to Daniel, surely
• 33:54
  your God, is the god of gods, and the Lord of kings, and a
• 33:58
  revealer of mysteries for, you were able to reveal this
• 34:02
  mystery. So one of the things that I
• 34:06
  noticed when I was doing some research into the historical
• 34:09
  King, Nebuchadnezzar in preparation for this stream, was
• 34:12
  that basically all the mainstream Legacy, you know,
• 34:17
  institutions said, oh yeah, yeah, there was a king
• 34:20
  Nebuchadnezzar, and yeah, yeah, yeah, he really did destroy
• 34:24
  Jerusalem and take the those people into Exile but all this
• 34:27
  stuff about his dream and threatening to kill all the wise
• 34:30
  men and the passages. I'm going to read next.
• 34:33
  After this is done, those never had.
• 34:35
  Those were just literature. Those things didn't really
• 34:38
  happen, you know, the Jews who wrote the Book of Daniel, they
• 34:42
  had a negative opinion of the king and so they put him in a
• 34:45
  negative light. A problem with that argument,
• 34:48
  when you read the passage, we just read is that we just saw
• 34:53
  the god of the Bible, declared that King Nebuchadnezzar's
• 34:56
  kingdom is the greatest Kingdom, that will ever exist in human
• 35:00
  history. If I were the Jews, And I didn't
• 35:04
  like King Nebuchadnezzar and I wanted to create an account of
• 35:07
  him that painted him in the negative light.
• 35:09
  Why would I have? My God, say that King
• 35:12
  Nebuchadnezzar's kingdom is the greatest Kingdom that will ever
• 35:15
  exist in human history. You know, that's an excellent
• 35:21
  point. Like, why would you do that?
• 35:23
  I mean, typically, if you're going to make up a story to make
• 35:26
  someone look bad, you're not going to have the god, you claim
• 35:30
  exists painting, the person you're trying to make look bad.
• 35:33
  As being the greatest King of the greatest Kingdom that will
• 35:36
  ever exist in human history. It's just, it's not logical at
• 35:40
  all and yet, that's exactly what we see here in this account.
• 35:45
  Which I think the principle of embarrassment would be at play
• 35:48
  here because on one hand if in a certain way it's kind of
• 35:53
  embarrassing for the Jews to have to write down and preserve
• 35:58
  the words of Daniel which is that according to God himself,
• 36:01
  King, Nebuchadnezzar was his Servant when he destroyed
• 36:05
  Jerusalem and he was the greatest King of the greatest
• 36:08
  Kingdom in human history. It's kind of embarrassing for
• 36:11
  the Jews to have to preserve these writings and Revelations
• 36:14
  of God. And yet, that's exactly what we
• 36:17
  have in our hands today. So I have no doubt that this
• 36:22
  particular account happened, just because of the fact that if
• 36:27
  the Jews were making up a story about Nebuchadnezzar that this
• 36:31
  is not the one they make up. But even though God claimed that
• 36:37
  King, Nebuchadnezzar was his servant and even though he said,
• 36:42
  that King Nebuchadnezzar was the greatest King of the greatest
• 36:45
  Kingdom that will ever exist in human history.
• 36:48
  God was not afraid to give King Nebuchadnezzar more than one
• 36:51
  slice of humble pie in order to keep his ego in check.
• 36:55
  Because as we see in the passengers were about to read
• 36:59
  King, Nebuchadnezzar, because he's the greatest King of the
• 37:02
  greatest Empire in human history.
• 37:03
  History. His ego kind of got inflated and
• 37:06
  he started to think of himself basically is equal to God as
• 37:09
  will see, and Daniel for. But before we get to Daniel for,
• 37:13
  let's read about the First Slice of humble pie that took place in
• 37:16
  Daniel chapter 3 verses 1 through 29, which is the story,
• 37:21
  the account of the image of gold and the Blazing furnace King
• 37:25
  Nebuchadnezzar made an image of gold 60 cubits high in six,
• 37:28
  cubits wide and set it up on the plain of dura in the province of
• 37:32
  Babylon. He then summoned the state trips
• 37:35
  prefect's Governor's advisers treasurers, judges magistrates
• 37:38
  and all the other provincial officials to come to the
• 37:41
  dedication of the image. He had set up.
• 37:43
  So the say traps prefect's Governor's advisers Treasures,
• 37:46
  judges magistrates and all the other provincial officials
• 37:50
  assembled for the dedication of the image, that King
• 37:52
  Nebuchadnezzar had set up. And they stood before it, then
• 37:55
  the herald loudly proclaimed Nations and people's of every
• 37:59
  language. This is what you are commanded
• 38:01
  to do. As soon as you hear the sound Of
• 38:03
  the horn flute, zither liar harp pipe and all kinds of music.
• 38:08
  You Must Fall Down and Worship the image of gold that came
• 38:11
  Nebuchadnezzar. Has set up, whoever does not
• 38:13
  fall down and worship will meet Lee be thrown into a blazing
• 38:16
  furnace therefore as soon as they heard the sound of the horn
• 38:20
  flute, zither wire harp and all kinds of music, all the nations
• 38:23
  and people's of every language fell down and worship the image
• 38:26
  of gold that King Nebuchadnezzar had set up at this time, some
• 38:30
  astrologers came forward and denounced the Jews.
• 38:33
  They The King Nebuchadnezzar May the King live forever.
• 38:36
  Your majesty has issued a decree that everyone who hears the
• 38:40
  sound of the horn flute, to their liar, heart pipe, and all
• 38:43
  kinds of music Must Fall Down and Worship the image of gold
• 38:46
  and that whoever does not fall down and worship will be thrown
• 38:48
  to a blazing furnace, but there are some Jews among you who you
• 38:53
  have set over the Affairs of the province of Babylon.
• 38:56
  Shadrach Meshach and Abednego who pay no attention to you,
• 39:00
  your majesty, they neither serve your God's nor worship the image
• 39:03
  of Gold. You have set up furious with
• 39:06
  rage Nebuchadnezzar's, summon Shadrach Meshach, and Abednego.
• 39:10
  So these men were brought before the king and Nebuchadnezzar said
• 39:13
  to them. Is it true?
• 39:15
  Shadrach Meshach, and Abednego that you do not serve my gods or
• 39:18
  worship the image of gold, I have set up now when you hear
• 39:22
  the sound of the horn flute, zidar lyre, or harp, pipe, and
• 39:25
  all kinds of music. If you are ready to fall down
• 39:27
  and worship the image, I made very good, but if you do not
• 39:30
  worship it, you will be thrown immediately into a Blazing
• 39:34
  furnace then what God will be able to rescue you from my hand,
• 39:38
  Shadrach Meshach and Abednego replied to him.
• 39:41
  King Nebuchadnezzar, we do not need to defend ourselves before
• 39:45
  you in this matter. If we are thrown into the
• 39:47
  Blazing furnace, the God, we serve is able to Deliver Us from
• 39:50
  it and he will Deliver Us from your Majesty's hand, but even if
• 39:54
  he does not, we want you to know your majesty that we will not
• 39:57
  serve your gods or worship the image of gold.
• 40:00
  You have set up Then Nebuchadnezzar was furious with
• 40:04
  Shadrach Meshach and Abednego and his attitude toward them
• 40:07
  changed. He ordered the furnace heated
• 40:09
  seven times hotter than usual, and commanded some of the
• 40:13
  strongest soldiers in his army to tie up, Shadrach Meshach and
• 40:16
  Abednego and throw them into the Blazing furnace.
• 40:19
  So these men wearing their robes, trousers, turbines, and
• 40:22
  other clothes were bound and thrown into the Blazing furnace.
• 40:26
  The King's Command was so urgent and the furnace.
• 40:28
  So hot that the Flames of the fire killed the soldiers.
• 40:31
  So who took up Shadrach Meshach and Abednego and these three men
• 40:35
  firmly tied fell into the Blazing furnace.
• 40:38
  Then, King Nebuchadnezzar left to his feet in amazement and
• 40:41
  acids advisors weren't there. Three men that we tied up and
• 40:44
  thrown into the fire. They replied certainly your
• 40:47
  majesty. He said look I see four men
• 40:50
  walking around the fire Unbound and unharmed and the fourth
• 40:53
  looks like a son of the Gods. Nebuchadnezzar then approached
• 40:57
  the opening of the Blazing furnace and shouted Shadrach
• 41:00
  Meshach and Abednego Servants of the most high God come out, come
• 41:03
  here. So Shadrach Meshach and Abednego
• 41:06
  came out of the fire and the state traps prefect's Governors
• 41:10
  and Royal advisers crowded around them.
• 41:12
  They saw that the fire had not harm their bodies nor was a hair
• 41:15
  of their heads singe. Their robes were not scorched
• 41:18
  and there was no smell of fire on them.
• 41:22
  Then Nebuchadnezzar said, praise be to the god, of Shadrach,
• 41:26
  Meshach, and Abednego, who had sent his Angel and rescued his
• 41:30
  servants. They Trusted in him and defied
• 41:33
  the King's Command and were willing to give up their lives
• 41:35
  rather than serve or worship any God, except their own God.
• 41:40
  Therefore, I decree that the people of Any Nation or a
• 41:43
  languid language who say, anything against the god of
• 41:46
  Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego be cut into pieces and their
• 41:50
  houses. Be turned to piles of rubble for
• 41:52
  no other God can save in this way.
• 41:56
  Now, this story I just read is one of the most hilarious.
• 42:02
  In a way slices of Humble Pie I've ever seen served up to
• 42:06
  anyone much less the greatest King of the greatest Empire in
• 42:09
  human history challenges God's servants who were serving his as
• 42:14
  his officials, you know, Bow Down and Worship me when the
• 42:16
  music plays and if you don't I'll throw you in the fire and
• 42:19
  what God can save you. Then it's almost like God was
• 42:22
  you know they're hearing all this and said hold my beer and
• 42:27
  then not only did God prevent them from being killed by the
• 42:31
  fire but As we saw at the end of the account when they came out
• 42:34
  of the fire, there was no evidence whatsoever on them that
• 42:38
  they had ever been in any fire at all.
• 42:41
  It's like been never been thrown in.
• 42:44
  And that only is that miraculous.
• 42:46
  That's one of those things that humbled Nebuchadnezzar and
• 42:49
  helped him to remember, oh yeah, there's a God above me, who
• 42:53
  rules over the Earth and he allowed me to have this
• 42:56
  position. And if he doesn't want some
• 42:58
  people to die 5 by my hand, there's nothing I can do.
• 43:01
  About it. So an amazing slice of humble
• 43:05
  pie that King Nebuchadnezzar was served on this occasion, but
• 43:09
  unfortunately, like most humans who have sinned issues.
• 43:14
  We usually don't have a senior she wants and then a miracle
• 43:18
  happens and then we don't ever have it again.
• 43:20
  Sometimes the issue comes up again and God needs to get out
• 43:24
  more humble pie. And unfortunately for King
• 43:28
  Nebuchadnezzar as great as he was, he had this problem too.
• 43:31
  To which is what leads into Daniel chapter 4, which I was
• 43:36
  looking at it before the stream and I thought, you know, we just
• 43:39
  need to read this in its entirety because there's nothing
• 43:42
  really we can leave out here. So starting in verse 1 of Daniel
• 43:46
  chapter 4, this is the last account of King, Nebuchadnezzar
• 43:49
  will read on the stream King Nebuchadnezzar to the Nations
• 43:54
  and people's of every language who live in all the Earth may
• 43:58
  you prosper greatly. It is my pleasure to tell you
• 44:01
  about. Miraculous signs and wonders.
• 44:03
  That the most high God has performed for me.
• 44:06
  How great are his signs? How Mighty his wonders?
• 44:09
  Whose kingdom is an eternal Kingdom?
• 44:11
  His Dominion endures from generation to generation.
• 44:14
  I Nebuchadnezzar was at my home at home in Maya, Palace
• 44:18
  contented and prosperous. I had a dream that made me
• 44:21
  afraid as I was lying in bed, the images and visions that
• 44:25
  passed through my mind, terrified me.
• 44:27
  So I commanded that all the wise men of Babylon be brought before
• 44:30
  me to interpret the dream. I'm for me when The Magicians
• 44:33
  and enchanters astrologers and diviners came.
• 44:35
  I told him the dream but they could not interpret it for me.
• 44:38
  Finally, Daniel came into my presence and I told him the
• 44:40
  dream he is called belches are after the name of my God and the
• 44:44
  spirit of the Holy Gods is in him.
• 44:46
  I said belches our chief in The Magician's.
• 44:48
  I know that the spirit of the holy God is in you and no
• 44:51
  mystery is too difficult for you.
• 44:53
  Here is my dream. Interpret it for me.
• 44:56
  These are the Visions I saw while lying in bed.
• 44:59
  I looked and there before me stood Tree in the middle of the
• 45:02
  land. Its height was enormous, the
• 45:04
  tree grew large and strong and it stopped touch the sky.
• 45:08
  It was visible to the ends of the Earth.
• 45:10
  Its leaves were beautiful, its fruit abundant and on.
• 45:12
  It was food for all under it. The wild animals found shelter
• 45:16
  in the birds lived in its branches from it.
• 45:18
  Every creature was fed in the Visions.
• 45:21
  I saw a line in bed, I looked, and there before me was a Holy
• 45:24
  One, a messenger, coming down from heaven.
• 45:27
  He called in a loud voice, cut down the tree and trim off its
• 45:30
  branches. Strip off its leaves and Scatter
• 45:33
  its fruit. Let the animals flee from under
• 45:35
  it and the birds from its branches, but let the stump and
• 45:38
  its roots bound with iron and bronze, remain in the ground and
• 45:41
  the grass of the field. Let him be drenched with the Dew
• 45:45
  of heaven and let him live with the animals.
• 45:47
  Among the plants of the Earth, let his mind be changed from
• 45:50
  that of a man and let him be given the mind of an animal till
• 45:53
  seven times pass by for him. The decision is announced by
• 45:57
  Messengers. The Holy ones, declared the
• 45:59
  verdict. So all that the living mainly
• 46:01
  No, the most high is Sovereign over.
• 46:03
  Sovereign over all kingdoms on Earth and gives them to anyone.
• 46:06
  He wishes and sets over them. The lowest of people, this is
• 46:11
  the dream that I King, Nebuchadnezzar had.
• 46:13
  Now belshazzar tell me what it means.
• 46:15
  For none of the wise men in My Kingdom, can interpret it for
• 46:18
  me, but you can because the spirit of the Holy Gods is in
• 46:21
  you. Then Daniel also called
• 46:24
  belshazzar was greatly perplexed for a time and his thoughts
• 46:28
  terrified him. So, the king said, belches are
• 46:30
  do. Not let the dream or its meaning
• 46:33
  alarm. You belches are answered my Lord
• 46:37
  if only the dream applied to your enemies and its meaning to
• 46:40
  your adversaries, but reuse saw, which grew large and strong fit,
• 46:44
  stop touching the sky visible to the whole earth with beautiful
• 46:47
  leaves, and abundant fruit providing food for all giving
• 46:50
  shelter to the wild animals and having nesting places in its
• 46:53
  branches for the birds, your majesty.
• 46:56
  You are that tree, you have become great and strong, your
• 47:00
  greatness has grown into Reaches the sky and your Dominion
• 47:03
  extends to distant parts of the earth.
• 47:07
  Your majesty saw, Holy One, a messenger, come down from heaven
• 47:10
  and saying, cut down the tree and destroy it, but leave the
• 47:13
  stump bound of iron and bronze in the grass of the field.
• 47:16
  While its roots, remain in the ground.
• 47:17
  Let them be drenched with the Dew of Heaven.
• 47:19
  Let Him Live with the wild animals until seven times pass
• 47:23
  by for him. This is the interpretation your
• 47:26
  majesty and this is the decree, the most high as issued against
• 47:29
  my Lord, the king. You will be driven away from
• 47:32
  people and will live with the wild animals.
• 47:35
  You will eat grass, like the ox and be drenched with the Dew of
• 47:38
  Heaven. Seven times will pass by for you
• 47:40
  until you acknowledge that. The most high is Sovereign over
• 47:43
  all kingdoms on Earth and gives them to anyone.
• 47:45
  He wishes the command to leave the stump of the tree.
• 47:48
  If its roots means that your kingdom will be restored to you.
• 47:52
  When you acknowledge that heaven rules, Therefore your majesty be
• 47:56
  pleased to accept my advice renounce, your sins by doing
• 48:00
  what is right? And you're Wickedness by being
• 48:02
  kind to the oppressed it may be then that your Prosperity will
• 48:06
  continue. All this happened to King
• 48:10
  Nebuchadnezzar, 12 months later. As the King was walking on the
• 48:14
  roof of the Royal Palace of Babylon.
• 48:16
  He said, is not this, the great Babylon.
• 48:19
  I have built as the Royal residence by my mighty power and
• 48:24
  for the glory of my Majesty, even as the words were on his
• 48:28
  lips, a voice Came From Heaven. This is what is decreed for you?
• 48:32
  King Nebuchadnezzar, your Royal Authority has been taken from
• 48:36
  you. You will be driven Away from
• 48:38
  people and will live with the wild animals, you will eat grass
• 48:41
  like the ox seven times will pass by for you until you
• 48:44
  acknowledge that. The most high is Sovereign over
• 48:46
  all kingdoms on Earth and gives them to anyone.
• 48:49
  He wishes immediately. What had been said about
• 48:52
  Nebuchadnezzar was fulfilled. He was driven away from people
• 48:56
  and they eat grass like the ox, his body was drenched with the
• 48:59
  Dew of Heaven until his hair grew, like the feathers of an
• 49:02
  eagle and his nails, like the claws of a bird at the end of
• 49:06
  that time. I never Can either raise my eyes
• 49:09
  toward heaven, and my sanity was restored.
• 49:12
  Then I praise the most high and I honored and glorified him who
• 49:16
  lives forever. His Dominion is an eternal
• 49:19
  Dominion. His kingdom endures from
• 49:21
  generation to Generation all the peoples of the Earth are
• 49:25
  regarded as nothing. He does, as he pleases with the
• 49:29
  powers of Heaven and the peoples of the earth.
• 49:32
  No, one can hold back his hand or say to him.
• 49:34
  What you have you done at the same time?
• 49:37
  I'm that my sanity was restored. My honor and Splendor were
• 49:40
  returned to me for the glory of my kingdom.
• 49:42
  My advisors and Nobles sought me out and I was restored to my
• 49:45
  throne and became even greater than before.
• 49:48
  Now I Nebuchadnezzar, praise and exalt and glorified the king of
• 49:52
  Heaven because everything he does is right and all his ways
• 49:56
  are just and those who walk in Pride, he is able to humble and
• 50:01
  since you play that Pride stuff in the opening of the show,
• 50:04
  Brett I found that kind of convenient because King Nezzer
• 50:08
  struggled with a different kind of Pride.
• 50:11
  He struggled with the pride of his own ego getting too full of
• 50:14
  himself in the most literal sense to the point where he was
• 50:17
  basically declaring himself to be God.
• 50:21
  And so God decided here are some Humble Pie for you.
• 50:24
  I'm going to make you live like an animal for a long period of
• 50:27
  time until you acknowledge that I am most Hai and Supreme Over
• 50:31
  All. And when you do that, then I'll
• 50:33
  give you back all your kingdoms and your honor and your glory
• 50:36
  and your position. And it all goes exactly that
• 50:40
  way. Now, what's funny, when I was
• 50:43
  doing preparation for this stream, is that I actually found
• 50:46
  a history article talking about King Nebuchadnezzar and it
• 50:50
  actually said that there is a Babylonian document that talks
• 50:54
  about a king who ended up going off into the Wilderness for
• 50:59
  several years and then eventually he was restored to
• 51:03
  his position as king over Babylon.
• 51:05
  But this article claimed that no, no.
• 51:07
  It wasn't King Nebuchadnezzar who did it?
• 51:10
  It was the king that came after him.
• 51:13
  Now, a lot of fun, but a lot of unbelievers would look at that
• 51:16
  and say CC, the story may have happened, but totally wasn't
• 51:21
  Nebuchadnezzar. That this happened to her
• 51:23
  happened to somebody else and all I have to say in response is
• 51:27
  principle of embarrassment. You're talking about the
• 51:30
  Babylonian documents that say this and that's think about it
• 51:34
  would the Babylonian historians really want to write and
• 51:37
  Preserve in writing that the greatest King they ever had was
• 51:42
  driven to a Madness by God himself and forced to live like
• 51:47
  a wild animal for several years until he humbled himself and
• 51:51
  acknowledge that God was most high in Supreme Over All.
• 51:54
  I don't think they would have wanted to write that down.
• 51:57
  I can imagine all too easily than saying that and I wasn't
• 52:01
  Nebuchadnezzar, huh? It was the guy that came after
• 52:04
  him to happen to. Yeah, of course, we know that
• 52:07
  other empires of the past like the Egyptian was back in Moses's
• 52:11
  time. They had no problem with Hitting
• 52:14
  any history from their records, that would make them look bad in
• 52:17
  any way. So I have a pretty easy time
• 52:20
  believing based on that and human nature that the
• 52:23
  Babylonians. If they do have a record about a
• 52:26
  king being driven to Madness for several years and then we're
• 52:30
  getting his position restored. But I wasn't Nebuchadnezzar.
• 52:34
  I can easily Envision them saying that it wasn't
• 52:37
  Nebuchadnezzar just to avoid the embarrassment of writing down
• 52:41
  what the Bible says, I can eat easily.
• 52:44
  Imagine that happening, you were going to say something Brett.
• 52:47
  Yeah, teeth, you are while you were basically putting off this
• 52:51
  message. I was looking into the
• 52:54
  information on him and following along with you.
• 52:57
  And there's an interesting thing, he's one of the most
• 53:00
  historically documented people throughout the Bible, so anybody
• 53:05
  out there that's been skeptical that they might want to look
• 53:08
  into them. There's this unbelievable amount
• 53:10
  of documentation. Did you know that?
• 53:13
  This believe that he actually may have suffered a concession
• 53:18
  called Zoe anthro pia. What's that?
• 53:22
  It means that he was convinced that he was an animal like some
• 53:27
  of our atheist buddies out there do you have this article in
• 53:31
  front of you right now? Because I feel like that's
• 53:34
  something we should screen share.
• 53:37
  Yeah, let me get you a link as your screen sharing is looking
• 53:40
  real good right now. I'm afraid.
• 53:42
  It'll cause me some Um issue, I'll private chat you this.
• 53:45
  Okay, but up on my end, this is oops.
• 53:49
  Let me let me here. I'll give you the word because
• 53:55
  it's trying to make a link that's like 10,000 lines, long
• 54:00
  fright condition. And then after you, look at the
• 54:03
  condition type in Nebuchadnezzar along with that, and you'll see
• 54:08
  all the information on it. All right, let's give that a
• 54:11
  try. See.
• 54:13
  Debu Chad has are that's how you spell his name and then let's
• 54:21
  just copy and paste this, you know me I'm terrible with names.
• 54:25
  My scissor name is Bob all say boob right?
• 54:36
  Bo anthropy. Yeah you see the word?
• 54:39
  I typed into the private chat. It's Wikipedia haha.
• 54:47
  Hmm. King Nebuchadnezzar of the
• 54:51
  sometimes attributed. Boo, anthropy, based on his
• 54:54
  description in the Book of Daniel.
• 55:01
  Hmm, interesting. I thought he had me was it just
• 55:06
  Wikipedia? You were looking at or were you
• 55:08
  looking at a specific article? Well, I was actually, I was
• 55:12
  actually looking up historical information or Nebuchadnezzar
• 55:16
  and his rhyme during this Kingdom.
• 55:18
  And all that, while you were talking and then that came up
• 55:22
  and I was like, what the heck is this?
• 55:23
  Had never even seen that word before, and I copied it, put it
• 55:27
  in the Google along with his name and voila.
• 55:30
  That's Came up? Yep, I'm see me.
• 55:33
  I'm seeing I'm seeing a lot of Articles talking about it but I
• 55:38
  think I may have found one. That's more interesting than the
• 55:41
  rest, if I can get it. Let's see.
• 55:58
  Okay, well I feel immediately have anything to share on screen
• 56:06
  as far as a specific article goes, but I will screen share my
• 56:11
  search results so that people can see that we are not shy of
• 56:15
  sources. When you type in Nebuchadnezzar
• 56:18
  Zoo anthro Pia. It's going to go ahead and share
• 56:22
  my entire screen. Again allow.
• 56:26
  Okay. And as you can see, when I took
• 56:30
  Brett's advice and typed in Nebuchadnezzar Zoo anthro Pia.
• 56:35
  Well, we got all kinds of results including well.
• 56:40
  I guess the other name for it is Bo anthropy, which is the same
• 56:43
  thing, just a different name for it and apparently it's one of
• 56:47
  the weirdest disorders. You've never heard of.
• 56:52
  Well, we've heard it runs at times from non believers claim
• 56:55
  in their fish monkeys and everything else under the sun.
• 56:59
  But yeah, it's it ties in nicely, doesn't it?
• 57:03
  Yeah. And actually lends more Credence
• 57:06
  to what I just said a little bit ago about how the Babylonian
• 57:09
  historians would have been incredibly embarrassed to admit
• 57:13
  that this really happened to Nebuchadnezzar even if they
• 57:16
  didn't understand what it was, that was afflicted to him.
• 57:19
  But now that we know that such a thing is a real mental illness
• 57:22
  and mental disorder. Now it's even easier to believe
• 57:26
  that the biblical account of Esther and Daniel for really
• 57:29
  happened, especially when we know that the madness he
• 57:33
  suffered from is a real mental disorder.
• 57:38
  Yeah. And we've seen it happen quite a
• 57:40
  bit with non-believers. You think they come from fish?
• 57:43
  Hey. All right, let me prep the
• 57:46
  screen for the next person will be talking about, which is Cyrus
• 57:50
  the Great now. Cyrus the Great.
• 57:53
  If you actually study, what if you just Google search or use
• 57:58
  any search engine? Really to look up information
• 58:01
  about him, you will see that there's a lot of information
• 58:05
  about him but most of Attest to how he was, actually a really
• 58:10
  great humanitarian. As far as being a ruler goes,
• 58:15
  actually, let me pull that one up first because I got a
• 58:21
  non-Christian source that supports this certian.
• 58:25
  It's not very long, so I'll read that actually.
• 58:28
  Before I read the Bible, passages about him that I have
• 58:31
  selected just going to screen, share, screen share.
• 58:36
  Chair Landau. All right.
• 58:40
  And then so I have here on screen an article from
• 58:44
  Northeastern Illinois, University titled who was Cyrus
• 58:48
  the Great short article. So we'll just read it in its
• 58:52
  entirety. Cyrus the Persian king 592 529
• 58:56
  BC is considered by many to be an exemplary case of a
• 58:59
  benevolent. Conquerors allowed his subjects
• 59:02
  to live and worship the same way as before his political Reign
• 59:05
  Over them. When his father came to seize,
• 59:08
  the first died, Cyrus expanded, the a comedian Dynasty and
• 59:13
  turned the Persian Empire into a sizable entity over a continuous
• 59:17
  stretch of land from the shores of the Mediterranean to the
• 59:20
  foothills of the Himalayas. And India, Cyrus is Remembered
• 59:23
  in history because of his political philosophy of
• 59:26
  Tolerance, and respect toward non Persians and his
• 59:29
  demonstration of Mercy on his defeated foe.
• 59:32
  After establishing his Empire, Cyrus allowed all subjects to
• 59:35
  participate in Governance, he borrowed the Good Deeds of other
• 59:39
  cultures in the first sign of his commitment to diversity
• 59:41
  through culture. So we have an actual man who
• 59:44
  believes in real diversity. Interesting.
• 59:47
  He said the Jews free from their Babylonian captivity.
• 59:50
  They had taken place decades before Cyrus facilitated their
• 59:54
  return to the promised land and he became a notable figure in
• 59:57
  the Jewish scripture as a savior who helped them, build the
• 1:00:00
  second temple of Jerusalem. Many decades later.
• 1:00:03
  The Greek historian xenophon's describes Celebrated Cyrus
• 1:00:08
  because he honored his subjects and cared for them as if they
• 1:00:10
  were his own children. They on their part.
• 1:00:13
  Revered, Cyrus as a father in his saira pedia.
• 1:00:17
  Many people don't know. That Cyrus is notoriety, did not
• 1:00:20
  stop. If the Greeks one of the
• 1:00:22
  America. One of America's founding
• 1:00:24
  fathers, Thomas Jefferson owned. Not one but two copies of
• 1:00:28
  xenophon's book. A replica of Cyrus's Charter
• 1:00:32
  known as the Cyrus. Cylinder is displayed at the
• 1:00:34
  United Nations in New York. In 1879, British archaeologists
• 1:00:39
  Unearthed. This ancient artifact written in
• 1:00:41
  Babylonian cuneiform. Cyrus has carved his policies
• 1:00:44
  that became part of his legacy that became revolutionary ideas
• 1:00:48
  at the world today. Still tries to emulate
• 1:00:52
  regardless of one's perspective on faith politics or economic
• 1:00:55
  systems. Cyrus the Great is memorialized
• 1:00:58
  in every positive way by Persians, across the world.
• 1:01:01
  Northeastern Illinois University honors his legacy.
• 1:01:05
  So the main message Get about Cyrus, the Great and his Empire
• 1:01:08
  is that when he ruled it and he was alive.
• 1:01:11
  He was known for being benevolent towards the people.
• 1:01:14
  He conquered, he allowed them to practice their religion, they
• 1:01:17
  were before and live the way they were before as long as
• 1:01:20
  they, you know, pitched in where they were ordered to to the
• 1:01:24
  Empire that he was the ruler of and things were pretty good when
• 1:01:28
  he was in charge of all of that. And then there were other sites.
• 1:01:32
  I read that said there was actually Chuckle evidence,
• 1:01:37
  historical evidence, they found the actual like manuscript
• 1:01:41
  document. That had what we're about to
• 1:01:43
  read in Ezra chapter 1, verses 1 through 4, which says this in
• 1:01:50
  the first year of Cyrus King of Persia in order to fulfill the
• 1:01:54
  word of the Lord spoken by. Jeremiah the Lord moved the
• 1:01:57
  heart of Cyrus King of Persia to make a proclamation throughout
• 1:02:00
  his realm and also to put it in writing.
• 1:02:04
  This is what Cyrus King of Persia says.
• 1:02:07
  The Lord, the god of Heaven has given me all the kingdoms of the
• 1:02:11
  earth and he has appointed me to build a temple for him at
• 1:02:14
  Jerusalem in Judah. Any of his people among you may
• 1:02:18
  go up to Jerusalem and Judah and build the Temple of the Lord,
• 1:02:21
  the god of Israel. The God Who is in Jerusalem and
• 1:02:23
  met, their God, be with them. And in any locality where
• 1:02:27
  survivors may now be living, the people are to provide them with
• 1:02:30
  silver and gold with goods and livestock and with Freewill
• 1:02:34
  offerings for the temple of God. In Jerusalem.
• 1:02:38
  So we see here that Cyrus himself allowed the Jews to go
• 1:02:45
  back to Jerusalem and rebuild their nation and their Temple
• 1:02:49
  but what a lot of people either don't know or don't want to hear
• 1:02:54
  is that many decades before Cyrus was even born.
• 1:02:59
  So well over 100 years. Before any of this happened, God
• 1:03:03
  prophesied through the prophet Isaiah.
• 1:03:07
  Cyrus and hit the way. His life would go down was going
• 1:03:10
  to happen and that he was going to allow the Jews to go back and
• 1:03:13
  rebuild their Nation. So we're going to read one long
• 1:03:17
  stretch of text. Well kind of long.
• 1:03:21
  We're going to start in Isaiah 44:24 and then we're going to go
• 1:03:26
  through part of Isaiah 45 because it's also about Cyrus.
• 1:03:31
  So when Isaiah 44, verse 24, we read this is what the Lord says.
• 1:03:36
  Has your Redeemer, Redeemer who formed you in the womb.
• 1:03:40
  I am the Lord, the maker of all things, who stretches out the
• 1:03:43
  heavens, who spreads out the Earth, by myself, who foils the
• 1:03:47
  signs of false prophets, and makes fools of diviners who
• 1:03:50
  overthrows, the learning of the wise and turns it into nonsense,
• 1:03:54
  who carries out the words of his servants and fulfills.
• 1:03:57
  The predictions of his Messengers, who says of
• 1:04:00
  Jerusalem, it shall be inhabited of the towns of Judah.
• 1:04:04
  They shall be rebuilt and of there.
• 1:04:06
  Wins. I will restore them who says to
• 1:04:10
  the watery deep be dry, and I will dry up your streams.
• 1:04:13
  Who says of Cyrus. He is my shepherd and will
• 1:04:18
  accomplish all that. I please, he will say, have
• 1:04:21
  Jerusalem. Let it be rebuilt, and of the
• 1:04:24
  temple. Let its foundations be laid.
• 1:04:28
  So, just in this little part, god talks about Cyrus before he
• 1:04:33
  was ever born much less, a conquering King and ruler.
• 1:04:36
  Or and he called Cyrus his Shepherd and that Cyrus would
• 1:04:41
  accomplish all that God pleases and that Cyrus would say let
• 1:04:46
  Jerusalem and the temple be rebuilt.
• 1:04:49
  Let the foundation's be laid, kind of creepy to see a guy who
• 1:04:54
  didn't exist until like, over 100 years.
• 1:04:56
  After this prophecy was given get talked about and have it
• 1:05:01
  accurately predict what he was going to do.
• 1:05:03
  But there's more when we go to Isaiah, Chapter 45 verse has.
• 1:05:12
  Oh boy, I hear we are verses 1 through 13.
• 1:05:18
  We read this. This is what the Lord says to
• 1:05:21
  his anointed to Cyrus whose right hand.
• 1:05:25
  I take hold of to subdue Nations before him and to strip Kings of
• 1:05:30
  their armor to open doors before him.
• 1:05:33
  So that Gates will not be. Shut, I will go before you and
• 1:05:36
  level the mountains. I will break down Gates of
• 1:05:39
  bronze and cut through bars of iron.
• 1:05:41
  I will Give you Hidden Treasures which is stored in secret places
• 1:05:45
  so that you may know that I am the Lord, the god of Israel who
• 1:05:50
  summons You by name for the sake of Jacob, my servant of Israel.
• 1:05:56
  My Chosen, I summon you by name and bestow on you.
• 1:06:00
  A title of Honor, though. You do not acknowledge me.
• 1:06:04
  I am the lord and there is no other apart from me.
• 1:06:08
  There is no God. I will strengthen you.
• 1:06:12
  You have not acknowledged me so that from the rising of the Sun
• 1:06:16
  to the place of its setting. People may know that there is
• 1:06:18
  none besides me, I am the lord and there is no other.
• 1:06:22
  I form the light and create Darkness, I bring prosperity and
• 1:06:26
  create disaster. I the Lord do all these things.
• 1:06:30
  You heavens above rain down my righteousness, let the clouds
• 1:06:33
  shower it down. Let the Earth open wide let
• 1:06:36
  salvation spring up, let righteousness flourish with it.
• 1:06:40
  I the Lord have created it. It.
• 1:06:42
  Whoa, to those who quarrel with their maker, those who are
• 1:06:45
  nothing but potsherds among the potsherds on the ground.
• 1:06:49
  This is the clay, say to the Potter.
• 1:06:51
  What are you making? Does your work say, the Potter
• 1:06:54
  has no hands. Woe to the one who says to a
• 1:06:56
  father, what have you begotten or to a mother?
• 1:06:59
  What have you brought to birth? This is what the Lord says the.
• 1:07:03
  Holy One of Israel and its maker concerning things to come.
• 1:07:06
  Do you question me about my children or give me orders about
• 1:07:09
  the work of my hands? It is.
• 1:07:11
  I who made the Griffin created mankind on it.
• 1:07:14
  My own hands stretched out the heavens.
• 1:07:16
  I Marshall their Starry hosts. I will raise up Cyrus in my
• 1:07:20
  righteousness. I will make his way straight.
• 1:07:23
  He will rebuild my city and set my ex Isles free, but not for a
• 1:07:28
  price or reward says the Lord Almighty.
• 1:07:33
  So we have God speaking through the prophet Isaiah, in Isaiah,
• 1:07:37
  44, 24 through Isaiah 45, 13, and we have God revealing that
• 1:07:43
  he was strengthening Cyrus even though Cyrus did not acknowledge
• 1:07:49
  Him. So Cyrus was not a believer in
• 1:07:52
  God and was a believer in whatever God's his religion
• 1:07:56
  taught or his culture taught. But even though he was not a
• 1:08:00
  believer in God, God, strengthened Cyrus so that he
• 1:08:04
  would be able to conquer all the nations that he concurred in
• 1:08:07
  order to create his Empire and he gave him access to the Hidden
• 1:08:11
  Treasures. That were stored up in Babylon,
• 1:08:13
  which is what the Hidden Treasures reference was to.
• 1:08:16
  He strengthened Cyrus so that he could do all these things.
• 1:08:20
  Just so that Cyrus could be the one because he was benevolent.
• 1:08:24
  Anyway, Cyrus could be the one to at the end of the 70 years of
• 1:08:29
  captivity that were prophesied and Jeremiah Cyrus could be the
• 1:08:33
  one to say, okay, Jews. You're eight.
• 1:08:36
  You're allowed. Now, to go back to your land,
• 1:08:38
  rebuild your nation and rebuild the Lord's Temple.
• 1:08:42
  That is what Cyrus is purpose in life was even though he was
• 1:08:45
  never a believer in God, he was used by God, he was a servant of
• 1:08:49
  the Lord in a sense. He was a Shepherd of the Lord,
• 1:08:53
  who did what the Lord wanted him to do.
• 1:08:56
  Even though he never acknowledge God, as far as we know, he
• 1:09:00
  certainly didn't leading up to, when he freed the Jews, my guess
• 1:09:04
  is, he probably didn't before he died, but as we could see, God
• 1:09:08
  used both King Nebuchadnezzar. The greatest King, arguably,
• 1:09:12
  Ever lived and one of the other greatest Kings who ever lived,
• 1:09:15
  King Cyrus, he used them as instruments of judgment to carry
• 1:09:20
  out his will and to do the things he wanted to do.
• 1:09:23
  Which in the case of Cyrus, he allowed the Jews to go back to
• 1:09:28
  the Holy Land, 70 years after Nebuchadnezzar, destroyed it,
• 1:09:32
  and took them into captivity just like the Lord prophesied
• 1:09:35
  back. Then it's a beautiful picture of
• 1:09:39
  Prophecy and fulfillment if you Look at it in the grander scale
• 1:09:43
  of things. Do you have any thoughts on this
• 1:09:47
  Brett before we transition into more modern contemporary
• 1:09:50
  examples of God using non-believers to accomplish his
• 1:09:53
  will? No, I find it.
• 1:09:56
  Absolutely fascinating. We've got basically a couple
• 1:10:00
  different generations of people where you can see, even though
• 1:10:04
  they weren't strong Believers, and some of them not even in the
• 1:10:07
  faith that God was there for them.
• 1:10:10
  The entire time, it kind of reminds me of that.
• 1:10:12
  Quote, you may not believe in God, but God believes in you.
• 1:10:18
  Yeah, I can see how that quote would be accurate when applied
• 1:10:21
  to what we were reading in the Bible, but as far Is modern
• 1:10:26
  examples. Go, I'll give you a modern
• 1:10:28
  example of how God uses non-believers to do his.
• 1:10:33
  Will I feel like for me personally, when I sit back and
• 1:10:38
  I look at how the atheists and evolutionists on the internet
• 1:10:42
  and especially on YouTube how they behave, the kind of
• 1:10:45
  arguments they make the way they try to denounce into bunk the
• 1:10:49
  biblical worldview or the existence of God or creationism
• 1:10:53
  or any number of things. Things.
• 1:10:56
  I feel like I'm actually benefiting in one sense because
• 1:11:00
  God is showing me and he's showing everybody really what
• 1:11:04
  happens when you rebel against him and deny what he has
• 1:11:07
  revealed about Origins and how the Earth came to be How the
• 1:11:12
  Universe came to be, how the human race came to be how
• 1:11:16
  history actually went down. And more importantly, what
• 1:11:19
  objective morality is and accountability for how you
• 1:11:23
  choose to live your life. It's amazing, what, how the
• 1:11:28
  atheist behave? Because you can see clearly from
• 1:11:31
  the way they live their lives, that they have to employ a lot
• 1:11:35
  of double standards and engage in a lot of doublespeak and
• 1:11:38
  hypocrisy in order to maintain the positions that they do,
• 1:11:42
  especially when they try to debunk my worldview and even in
• 1:11:47
  the case of like the smarter Slicker ones like the apology is
• 1:11:50
  of the world even though they have really good mannerisms and
• 1:11:55
  charismatic and they're articulate and they can make on
• 1:11:59
  the surface. Some really convincing
• 1:12:01
  arguments. You follow them long enough, You
• 1:12:03
  observe them closely enough and even with those guys you can see
• 1:12:07
  that they have a real disdain for truth.
• 1:12:10
  Being told they have a real disdain for both sides of an
• 1:12:14
  issue being presented in full so that people can make up their
• 1:12:17
  own mind. Which is why people like him
• 1:12:20
  have engaged in cancel culture, tactics in the past, in regards
• 1:12:24
  to people like Ken, Ham. So, even with the ones who are
• 1:12:28
  more articulate and see more convincing, you can see God
• 1:12:32
  showing us what happens when you reject him, does it matter how
• 1:12:36
  smart you are. It doesn't matter how articulate
• 1:12:39
  you are. It doesn't matter how popular
• 1:12:41
  you are on the Internet or how many views your videos get or
• 1:12:45
  how much engagement your social media posts, get.
• 1:12:48
  It doesn't matter how many people you convince the think
• 1:12:50
  the way you do. You are living in Folly and
• 1:12:55
  denial of reality. When you reject God and his
• 1:12:59
  commands and his written word to humankind and you can just see
• 1:13:03
  it with the way they live their lives.
• 1:13:05
  And I feel like God is using those people in a way to show us
• 1:13:10
  what happens when you live life separate from him.
• 1:13:15
  Well, tto are myself listening p.m. here in the message that
• 1:13:19
  you're putting forth. I, I feel like there's a
• 1:13:22
  personal impact that has happened to me and kind of the
• 1:13:27
  same way. I remember, when I first started
• 1:13:30
  transitioning and accepting God, I was standing on the deck with
• 1:13:34
  my wife and I said, honey I believe in God absolutely now,
• 1:13:38
  but why do you think that God took so long to get around?
• 1:13:43
  To me? Why not?
• 1:13:43
  Just two years. Ears under this why?
• 1:13:46
  I'm in tired, you know, decade or so.
• 1:13:49
  And she said well maybe God wanted you to be in the enemy
• 1:13:52
  camp. So you would know all their
• 1:13:54
  tricks and tools and from there are and I took that as a
• 1:13:59
  strength and a message from her that is very, very inspiring and
• 1:14:06
  definitely very true. As far as the principal goes, I
• 1:14:10
  feel the same way about my conversion from older, if
• 1:14:14
  Station isn't The Young Earth creationism?
• 1:14:17
  When I look back on the journey I've been on because sometimes I
• 1:14:21
  look back and I think man, why did I become a young Earth
• 1:14:24
  creationist so much later in my life instead of, you know,
• 1:14:28
  closer to the beginning of my apologetics career, when I
• 1:14:31
  started studying apologetics and when I look back on it, it
• 1:14:36
  becomes. Clear to me, I think God allowed
• 1:14:39
  me to be an older of creationist for as long as I was, which was
• 1:14:42
  basically the first 24 years of my life.
• 1:14:45
  So that I would know how they are arguments worked and how
• 1:14:49
  they handled the Bible. And basically be able to expose
• 1:14:52
  the flaws with all of that stuff.
• 1:14:55
  And I spent many years on YouTube, and B, shoot and other
• 1:14:58
  websites doing exactly that. I haven't done it as much lately
• 1:15:02
  because time hasn't been there hasn't been as much of a need or
• 1:15:07
  a desire lately, but I did all that stuff and I was able to do
• 1:15:12
  all that stuff because I used to be an old Creation, especially
• 1:15:15
  when it comes to the arguments from the Bible that they try to
• 1:15:19
  make to justify their worldview because I used to think that way
• 1:15:24
  and know the verses they referred to.
• 1:15:27
  I was able to study the Bible and some tire T and another
• 1:15:30
  context of the versus the appeal to know what other passages say.
• 1:15:34
  And be able to make proper Judgment of what the bible
• 1:15:38
  really says. And a lot of the arguments
• 1:15:41
  actually pretty much all the arguments that they make.
• 1:15:44
  From the Bible. They turn out to be false if you
• 1:15:47
  actually examine the matter closely.
• 1:15:50
  Which is really sad because they talked a big game about proper
• 1:15:53
  biblical interpretation and the principles they lay out, I agree
• 1:15:56
  with is just that they don't practicing.
• 1:16:00
  And that's a shame but I can and that principle is the same as
• 1:16:04
  what you went through. What you described.
• 1:16:08
  It's pretty interesting from the experiences that you've had and
• 1:16:11
  the all the learning that you've done and seen things from all
• 1:16:14
  different positions. It's a I had never really
• 1:16:18
  thought about that with Nebuchadnezzar before about God,
• 1:16:21
  actually protecting and actually helping them.
• 1:16:24
  Some different ways are non-believers water religious
• 1:16:27
  folks out there they got this idea of yours.
• 1:16:29
  Unbeliever than God's pretty much done with.
• 1:16:32
  You know, this is a huge historical, you know, thing
• 1:16:38
  right in our face here and it's amazing.
• 1:16:41
  You pointed it out, it went right over my head until I heard
• 1:16:44
  it today. Yeah, I had as we saw in Daniel,
• 1:16:48
  he also was not afraid to give Nebuchadnezzar a few slices of
• 1:16:52
  Humble Pie when his ego got too big and if God's willing to
• 1:16:58
  Humble someone is great in my Mighty as Nebuchadnezzar.
• 1:17:01
  Well, he can humble anybody that should be the lesson we get from
• 1:17:05
  that. So you were getting them, the
• 1:17:08
  Cyrus a bit, their did you have some more you wanted to say on
• 1:17:11
  him? Now I think the passage is I
• 1:17:14
  read from the Bible and what I read from that website layout,
• 1:17:18
  what I wanted to point out about him, the the proclamation, he
• 1:17:23
  gave, you know, that the Jews go back to their land and rebuild
• 1:17:25
  their nation in Temple. That's not only written in the
• 1:17:28
  passage in the I read from Ezra, but there's actually a I forget
• 1:17:33
  what the document is called. But basically there's like a
• 1:17:36
  Persian document where it has written something very similar
• 1:17:40
  to what the book of Ezra has written as far as what Cyrus
• 1:17:44
  says, there is an actual non Bible document documenting, that
• 1:17:48
  Cyrus really did Proclaim what he did about the Jews and
• 1:17:52
  letting them go back to their land, which is something that is
• 1:17:55
  very fascinating to me. Because I'm sure in the past,
• 1:17:59
  Passed before that. Document was discovered.
• 1:18:02
  A lot of people said well yeah, I know Ezra says that he said
• 1:18:05
  that but we don't have any evidence outside of the Bible
• 1:18:08
  that King Cyrus or Cyrus, the Great ever actually made such a
• 1:18:12
  proclamation. And then of course we found the
• 1:18:15
  document outside the Bible where he did.
• 1:18:19
  So, you know, it's just one of those things that is a great
• 1:18:22
  evidence supporting the Bible. And find it interesting that
• 1:18:27
  most of the people who claim that they can't find evidence in
• 1:18:30
  the Bible are also the same people who admittedly or never
• 1:18:34
  even read the Bible. Yeah, biblical illiteracy is a
• 1:18:39
  huge problem today, and it's not just with non-believers, it's
• 1:18:43
  people. Even who call themselves
• 1:18:45
  Christians, who haven't read the Bible, or even if they have read
• 1:18:48
  it, it was like a years ago or it was in passing and scanning,
• 1:18:52
  and they didn't really take the time to study and understand it.
• 1:18:56
  Because a lot of the issues that the Christian church in America
• 1:19:00
  experiences today, a lot of them stand from Biblical ignorance,
• 1:19:05
  Oh illiteracy is my friend Tom would call it and he and I agree
• 1:19:10
  that if Christians in general were more willing to sit down
• 1:19:14
  and study and read the Bible in context and figure out exactly
• 1:19:19
  what it says exactly what it teaches allow.
• 1:19:22
  The issues we have today in the church would not be presence.
• 1:19:27
  Of course I have a hard time believing that's ever actually
• 1:19:30
  going to happen because things are only going to get worse
• 1:19:33
  before the Lord comes back. According to the Sure is and as
• 1:19:37
  we have seen in the last couple of years things, well, they're
• 1:19:40
  just getting worse. Well, ptor, it may not surprise
• 1:19:45
  you to know this but back whenever I was doing the
• 1:19:48
  non-believer thing, I don't know if you knew this or not but if I
• 1:19:52
  went into a chat room or made a church phone call one of my
• 1:19:55
  first questions I would ask people as have.
• 1:19:58
  You actually read the Bible cover to cover and if a
• 1:20:01
  religious person told me know that they read a lot of stuff
• 1:20:05
  but they Haven't run it all or haven't had the time to do that
• 1:20:10
  even though I was a non-believer, I would come to
• 1:20:12
  the conclusion that this was not a person who actually cared
• 1:20:15
  about their faith. You've got a book that you're
• 1:20:18
  convinced is from God himself, the creators of the universe and
• 1:20:23
  don't even want to bother to read it.
• 1:20:25
  As soon as I heard that, that would be the end of the
• 1:20:27
  conversation with those specific people.
• 1:20:31
  That's how I live, right? And it makes sense, that you
• 1:20:35
  would be that And the way you approach them because, you know,
• 1:20:39
  we're commanded by the Bible itself to study the scriptures
• 1:20:42
  and understand them as best as we are able to.
• 1:20:46
  And you know, we don't really have an excuse especially in
• 1:20:49
  today's age. When we don't just have a Bible
• 1:20:52
  you can hold in your hand like this but you can get apps on
• 1:20:55
  your phone and on your computer and other devices where you can
• 1:20:58
  read the Bible through those and you have apps where you can
• 1:21:01
  literally have a narrator read the Bible to you.
• 1:21:05
  On my phone, I have a app by The Gideons and it's a Bible app
• 1:21:11
  where it not only has the ESV version and the King James
• 1:21:15
  version of the Bible and you can look up each verse and each
• 1:21:19
  chapter in each book, you know, in those categories, but you can
• 1:21:23
  also hit the play button at the bottom of the page and it will
• 1:21:27
  narrate all of it for you. So you could literally, just
• 1:21:30
  even take a nap like that and sit it down and hit play, and
• 1:21:33
  you can listen to some voice. Read the entire Bible to you.
• 1:21:37
  I mean we really have no excuse to be biblically illiterate with
• 1:21:41
  all the different ways we have access to the Bible and can read
• 1:21:45
  the Bible and can even have narrations pre-recorded read the
• 1:21:49
  Bible to us. I mean, we really don't have an
• 1:21:51
  excuse at this point to be biblically illiterate and I
• 1:21:55
  think that biblical illiteracy is really bad.
• 1:21:58
  If you're a Christian because we're commanded by the New
• 1:22:01
  Testament, should be able to defend our faith and Elway.
• 1:22:05
  And if you don't even know what the Bible says, you're not going
• 1:22:10
  to be adequately prepared to defend the truthfulness of its
• 1:22:13
  claims. You can't defend the
• 1:22:15
  truthfulness of its claims with evidence.
• 1:22:17
  If you don't even know what the claims are and apologetics
• 1:22:22
  unfortunately is something that not too many Christians get into
• 1:22:26
  or if they do get into it they get like you know their Tippy
• 1:22:29
  Toe in it and they don't get any further than that.
• 1:22:31
  And that's something I've always wanted to change over the years
• 1:22:34
  as I've Doing my apologetics content and this ladies and
• 1:22:39
  gentlemen is one of the major reasons why connected with ptor
• 1:22:43
  in the first place and watched a lot of his videos over on B
• 1:22:47
  you'd and the stuff that he's done another sites because I
• 1:22:50
  realize from listening to him and how passionate he is and has
• 1:22:54
  the information that he gives it is clear that he takes his
• 1:22:58
  faith. Very seriously.
• 1:22:59
  That's one of the reasons why we became very connected and I
• 1:23:03
  think really good friends other Oh, I just felt like they were
• 1:23:07
  wishy-washy. Yeah.
• 1:23:09
  In my case, I put a lot of emphasis on what the Bible says
• 1:23:13
  because as you know, and I know and other people watching
• 1:23:17
  though, if you put your faith in Christian leaders and other
• 1:23:21
  Christian people over the Bible, you're always going to end up
• 1:23:25
  disappointed, especially when the people get found out in sin
• 1:23:29
  or they turn out to be living a double life.
• 1:23:32
  Or they D convert from the faith into, like atheism, or
• 1:23:35
  agnosticism or some other religion if you put Your faith.
• 1:23:39
  Your ultimate faith. That is in a Christian people.
• 1:23:43
  There's just nothing but disappointment, waiting for you.
• 1:23:46
  But if your faith is in the Bible and what it teaches that
• 1:23:50
  no matter what happens with Christian people, no matter, the
• 1:23:53
  sins. They commit, no matter how they
• 1:23:55
  get exposed for being fakes and frauds, or being horrible people
• 1:23:59
  or if they D convert to another religion after spending years,
• 1:24:02
  seemingly doing the Lord's work. That stuff will temporarily
• 1:24:07
  bother you, but it will fade pretty quickly because they were
• 1:24:11
  never your ultimate safe or your source of your faith.
• 1:24:14
  The Bible was that's the way I've been for many years and so
• 1:24:18
  that's how I'm able to keep going and maintain my faith,
• 1:24:22
  even when all kinds of things happen with Biblical leaders
• 1:24:26
  church, leaders, Christian leaders falling today.
• 1:24:29
  The Bible is my rock and so that stuff doesn't faze me, even if
• 1:24:33
  it's sad. Yeah, I never condemned anybody
• 1:24:37
  for what they may have done in their pasture for mistakes.
• 1:24:40
  They may have made, but if someone claims that they have a
• 1:24:43
  foundation built on something yet, they know nothing of their
• 1:24:47
  Foundation as a smart wise, man. Once said, if you have no
• 1:24:51
  Foundation to stand on then you have nothing to stand on for.
• 1:24:56
  Yeah. Because if you don't have a
• 1:24:58
  strong Foundation, then is Jesus said as you're building your
• 1:25:01
  house upon the shifting Sands and when the storm comes blown
• 1:25:06
  away just blown away. And that's true of pretty much
• 1:25:11
  any world view outside the biblical world view.
• 1:25:13
  It's not a strong foundation. So when the storm comes and
• 1:25:18
  things get tough and it won't be that far into the future when
• 1:25:22
  things get really tough for everybody like a prison planet
• 1:25:25
  to us. We're going to see who's
• 1:25:28
  legitimate who's not. But that's something I've been
• 1:25:31
  thinking for years now, is that as things get more Draconian and
• 1:25:35
  Tech on the internet in society and government?
• 1:25:39
  And then e and the political landscape in general this
• 1:25:41
  things. Get more Draconian and
• 1:25:44
  orwellian. We're going to see over time who
• 1:25:47
  the True Believers are the people who really believe in the
• 1:25:50
  Lord and believe the things that are recorded and written in the
• 1:25:54
  Bible, we're going to see who's legitimate and who's not, if you
• 1:25:58
  don't mind just for a moment, just to take a little bit of a
• 1:26:02
  right turn or left turn whatever turn you want to go with.
• 1:26:06
  You've been working on a website lately once you tell, Tell us a
• 1:26:09
  little bit about what the concept is and what got you
• 1:26:12
  going for it? What's the idea that are we
• 1:26:15
  talking about the tto? Our side, I just put out a video
• 1:26:18
  about or we talking about quarter.
• 1:26:21
  Well, you've got your video site.
• 1:26:23
  You also got one that you just recently talked about in video
• 1:26:27
  and knocking out some stuff. Would you like to share with the
• 1:26:30
  audience over here right now? Folks were connected on both
• 1:26:34
  channels, where actually live stream in here as well as T,
• 1:26:37
  cures, YouTube channel. Make sure you subscribe to them
• 1:26:40
  if you're listening from. All right.
• 1:26:43
  You want to show us what you got in the website?
• 1:26:46
  There we gas. So the one that you can see my
• 1:26:49
  tto our site, right? Yes.
• 1:26:53
  One. So the one that you're seeing.
• 1:26:55
  Yeah, so the one you seen on screen ladies and germs is the
• 1:26:58
  official tto. Our site that I just rolled out
• 1:27:03
  like a few weeks back. I did it through joshu hosting
• 1:27:08
  Services, which is run by my friend.
• 1:27:09
  Josh, who also you also help me set up the The other site you're
• 1:27:13
  about to see, basically, what I found out is that on June 30th,
• 1:27:19
  so in 28 days, Faith Life sites, which was hosting my website
• 1:27:24
  that I previously had. It's all going to go.
• 1:27:26
  Bye-bye, and so is my website and so I was like, man, I got to
• 1:27:30
  find a new way to create a website and you know not have
• 1:27:35
  that my site go away when Faith Life sites goes away.
• 1:27:38
  So I started talking to Josh and I tell them about Faith, Life
• 1:27:41
  sites and how It's a Church website builder that I use to
• 1:27:44
  make a tto our website. And then I told him about how I
• 1:27:48
  was paying them $20 a month just so I could have the ability to
• 1:27:52
  embed my videos on my website and that's when he informed me
• 1:27:56
  that I was getting majorly ripped off and then he explained
• 1:28:01
  to me how I could create my own website on a three dollar per
• 1:28:05
  month Cloud Server on Joshua hosting services and it allows
• 1:28:09
  for unlimited web traffic and it's basically Unlimited
• 1:28:13
  everything in most ways and basically, I could have a better
• 1:28:18
  looking more functional version of my website and only have to
• 1:28:22
  pay three bucks. A month to run the whole thing
• 1:28:25
  on a little Cloud Server, instead of paying someone else,
• 1:28:29
  20 bucks a month, not just a host my site, but just so that I
• 1:28:32
  could have the ability to embed videos on it.
• 1:28:36
  And naturally when I was building this thing, I
• 1:28:37
  discovered that just about every block or component that you can
• 1:28:42
  put on. As an HTML box, which allows me
• 1:28:45
  to easily put my videos on there.
• 1:28:48
  So this is the homepage you got the about page.
• 1:28:51
  There's actually a Blog section that I haven't started utilizing
• 1:28:54
  yet, but I will in the future. There's a social media page
• 1:28:58
  where you can see all the platforms.
• 1:28:59
  I'm on where my tip jar, crowdfunding stuff is as well as
• 1:29:04
  my Teespring store. We got the God TV radio live
• 1:29:08
  streams that I've hosted. We got the tto our show.
• 1:29:12
  We also got my guest speaking information Pages for each of my
• 1:29:16
  books. That's basically it in a
• 1:29:19
  nutshell, but it's a better-looking version of my
• 1:29:22
  website and it's way cheaper to maintain than the old site was.
• 1:29:27
  I mean we're talking in 85% Savings in monthly expenditure
• 1:29:33
  to maintain this new site and that's something that I am so
• 1:29:37
  thankful for and it looks good too.
• 1:29:41
  But then the other site that I run that I've been spending a
• 1:29:45
  lot of time working on especially recently is Corridor
• 1:29:49
  which is my own YouTube alternative that I created about
• 1:29:54
  a little over a year ago. Actually, it's very similar to
• 1:29:58
  YouTube in terms of layout user interface in terms of features
• 1:30:02
  and functionality. So like there's HD video
• 1:30:05
  uploads. There's live streaming, there's
• 1:30:08
  free restreaming. There's public playlists.
• 1:30:11
  There's an Easy-to-use comment, moderation system and the
• 1:30:17
  ability to customize your profile is better than YouTube's
• 1:30:21
  because you actually can do like all kinds of tech stuff in the
• 1:30:24
  description Parts in the back end.
• 1:30:27
  And then, there's also features that you won't find on YouTube,
• 1:30:31
  like the video chat rooms that you can create on quarter back
• 1:30:35
  in the day. Google Hangouts used to be part
• 1:30:38
  of YouTube, so you could literally from your YouTube
• 1:30:41
  channel, create a Google Hangout room, where you could do video
• 1:30:45
  calls if your friends, family, coworkers fellow, content,
• 1:30:48
  creators, Etc. And then if you wanted to, you
• 1:30:50
  could stream them to your YouTube channel.
• 1:30:52
  But then like five years ago or so they took that away on my
• 1:30:56
  site, you can basically do the same thing.
• 1:30:58
  You can create a video chat room using something that's an open
• 1:31:02
  source alternative, to Google Hangout.
• 1:31:05
  And you can do, basically all the same things you could do on
• 1:31:07
  Google Hangout and you can even stream to your channels from
• 1:31:10
  them. Which is really cool and
• 1:31:13
  something I plan to use more in the future.
• 1:31:15
  When I have a better infrastructure behind quarter by
• 1:31:19
  another thing you can do on quarter.
• 1:31:22
  That's really cool and that gives you incentive to actually
• 1:31:24
  share your videos out. If you're uploading content to
• 1:31:27
  it is that you can earn this currency.
• 1:31:30
  I made called quarter bucks. It's not real money.
• 1:31:33
  It's not some cryptocurrency. Which one person mistakenly
• 1:31:37
  thought it was last year and I was like no no sorry, it's not
• 1:31:40
  crypto, it's literally just Just a little digital point system
• 1:31:43
  that exists only on the site. I call it quarter bucks and the
• 1:31:47
  way it works is the more video views you get on your videos,
• 1:31:52
  the more of quarter bucks that you earn and when you earn
• 1:31:55
  enough quarter bucks, you can actually use those quarter bucks
• 1:31:59
  to promote either individual videos of yours or your entire
• 1:32:03
  channel on the main page of the site.
• 1:32:05
  So in my case, you can see on screen, my channel tto are is in
• 1:32:10
  the promoted channels. I have that is towards the top
• 1:32:13
  of the main page so if you're someone who's like yeah I want
• 1:32:19
  to get seen by everyone on quarter and try and raise my
• 1:32:22
  subscriber count. The best way to do that is to
• 1:32:25
  actually create a quarter Channel, upload your content to
• 1:32:28
  it. Sure out your quarter links and
• 1:32:30
  do everything. You can to get legitimate views
• 1:32:33
  on your quarter videos. And what you'll notice is that
• 1:32:36
  the more views your videos get the quicker, your quarter bucks,
• 1:32:40
  will fill up and the quicker. You can promote your Channel, or
• 1:32:43
  your individual videos on the main page of the site.
• 1:32:47
  And since there isn't a lot of people using quarter right now,
• 1:32:50
  lots of people can promote their channels on the main page of
• 1:32:54
  quarter and they don't need my permission to do it.
• 1:32:57
  They just have to actually get views on their videos and so not
• 1:33:00
  only does it give you an incentive to share out your
• 1:33:04
  quarter videos, it actually gives you incentive to post a
• 1:33:07
  lot of your videos or all of your videos to quarter because
• 1:33:10
  you never know which videos are going.
• 1:33:11
  Get lots of views and which aren't and so you got to really
• 1:33:15
  work at it. You know you got to do that
• 1:33:16
  grind that you would do for YouTube is got to do it for
• 1:33:19
  quarter basically and so this is something that I've been wanting
• 1:33:24
  to do for years. I finally got around to doing it
• 1:33:27
  last year. My friend Josh is also helped me
• 1:33:30
  with this. He is allowing me to use his
• 1:33:33
  hosting services, to host this site on one of his dedicated
• 1:33:37
  servers. And one of the first things I
• 1:33:39
  had to do, was make sure that the backend Purity was good.
• 1:33:43
  Because on the day that I launched the website, we had
• 1:33:47
  forgotten to put crowd sick on to my server.
• 1:33:50
  And So within like, 30 minutes of my website going online, it
• 1:33:54
  got such a large, massive, DDOS attack on it than it actually
• 1:33:58
  shut down, and you couldn't even load a page.
• 1:34:01
  So what Josh had I had to do was we had to go in and put crab
• 1:34:05
  stick on to my server, which is an open-source security program
• 1:34:10
  that basically. Fox DDOS attacks, it compiles, a
• 1:34:14
  list, that's ever-growing of all the IP addresses that are linked
• 1:34:19
  to bot accounts that do these DDOS attacks.
• 1:34:21
  And then when DDOS attacks happen to your site, if those IP
• 1:34:26
  addresses are already in the crowd SEC list and you have
• 1:34:31
  crowd second table on your server, it will shut down to
• 1:34:34
  DDOS attack before it can actually affect your site and so
• 1:34:38
  I'm actually being hit with DDOS attacks all the time right now
• 1:34:41
  in Quarter, but you would never know it.
• 1:34:43
  Because crowd SEC is destroying them before they can actually
• 1:34:47
  affect the performance of quarter.
• 1:34:50
  So there are people out there who would love to shut quarter
• 1:34:53
  down basically just by making it unusable through DDOS attacks
• 1:34:58
  but thanks to the technology that we have at our disposal
• 1:35:01
  these days. Those attacks are completely
• 1:35:04
  useless and so when you come to quarter, you don't have to worry
• 1:35:07
  about the site going down one day because a DDOS attack
• 1:35:11
  happened and I guess I better go back to YouTube, not going to
• 1:35:14
  happen that quarter. We've got the security in place
• 1:35:17
  to prevent something like that from ever happening.
• 1:35:20
  And I made sure that my friend is hosting service, is the one I
• 1:35:24
  use the hosts the site. So we don't have to worry about
• 1:35:27
  our site going down. Like parlay did two years ago
• 1:35:30
  when they had Amazon hosting, all their stuff like that was
• 1:35:34
  ever going to be a good idea in the long run but Yeah, quarter
• 1:35:39
  is a video sharing site, you can trust.
• 1:35:41
  And if you're a content creator, you really should invest into
• 1:35:45
  quarter, as well as really, most of the alternatives to YouTube.
• 1:35:48
  That there are because as Brett can tell you and as I can tell
• 1:35:52
  you, there are some topics we can literally not discuss on
• 1:35:57
  YouTube without our channels, getting struck down or videos,
• 1:36:00
  gain struck down or all the above, and that's why quarter
• 1:36:05
  exists. I don't know if you noticed this
• 1:36:10
  while you were getting your stuff together earlier and just
• 1:36:13
  before the show, let me show you something real quick to see
• 1:36:18
  because you and I we actually did an entire show on this
• 1:36:21
  topic. Don't want to get into it too
• 1:36:23
  much because I don't want to get into trouble but just check this
• 1:36:26
  out. Yeah, I heard about that.
• 1:36:34
  Just adding one more to the list.
• 1:36:37
  One of the, one of the finest actors of our modern day has
• 1:36:41
  been blinded as well as paralyzed in some areas of this
• 1:36:45
  body due to this. So we're not going to.
• 1:36:49
  We don't want to mention too many words because the AI can
• 1:36:52
  actually pick up on their subtitles and voice and all
• 1:36:55
  that, but I thought you might find that interesting.
• 1:36:58
  That's something we've been. I'm out for the last couple of
• 1:37:00
  years but nobody listened. Yeah.
• 1:37:03
  And that topic Brett and I have a whole livestream about that's
• 1:37:07
  only on my Rumble Channel. My quarter Channel, my Josh, you
• 1:37:11
  TV Channel, my YouTube channel, my bit Chute Channel, and
• 1:37:14
  whatever other channels I have. I got it in video audio on the
• 1:37:19
  radio as well. Can't speaking of Rumble though?
• 1:37:23
  I did notice that I gained two subscribers on Rumble this week
• 1:37:27
  after I initially lost too. Subscribers on YouTube.
• 1:37:30
  So, I'm guessing that's where they went.
• 1:37:34
  You feel like Rumble has improved because I remember when
• 1:37:38
  I was using, it was like, my videos would not be public.
• 1:37:42
  Might have to wait for somebody to come along and actually
• 1:37:44
  approved them. Has it changed?
• 1:37:47
  Yeah. I don't have to have that happen
• 1:37:48
  at all. I just upload a video and it's
• 1:37:50
  there. And it handles the higher
• 1:37:53
  definitions. Pretty well too.
• 1:37:54
  And the live streaming works pretty good.
• 1:37:56
  At least if you do it from stream yard.
• 1:37:59
  When we That last stream you and I did together that was only on
• 1:38:04
  the alternative sites. The one that was only streaming
• 1:38:07
  on Rumble and Joshua TV and odyssey that stream the stream
• 1:38:11
  to rumble and it did pretty good.
• 1:38:14
  Actually got a lot more views than my videos, usually do on
• 1:38:17
  Rumble. So that's something I'm going to
• 1:38:18
  consider doing more often going forward because you know, the
• 1:38:23
  bigger I can get on all the sides, more people, I can reach
• 1:38:25
  and someone somewhere is benefiting from my content and
• 1:38:29
  work so wherever I can reach them, I will I was going to make
• 1:38:35
  a suggestion since you're heavily into doing websites, and
• 1:38:38
  all this is you probably noticed by.
• 1:38:40
  Now, I've been working on something myself, and I've been
• 1:38:44
  using chat GPT to help me with some of my articles and stuff.
• 1:38:48
  And boy, that really cuts down on a lot of aggravation really
• 1:38:51
  quick, but I have noticed something.
• 1:38:54
  You know, all these people out here, they keep on talking about
• 1:38:57
  how great chat chat GTP is. But the, the page likes to try
• 1:39:02
  to Protect certain topics. I notice, if I ask it about
• 1:39:07
  certain things, it'll want to warn me and tell me.
• 1:39:10
  No, that's not very nice to say and I'm like, your computer.
• 1:39:14
  I don't want to hear your moral thoughts on the issue.
• 1:39:17
  I just want to hear what the issue is.
• 1:39:20
  It's weird how they do that. Yeah, I've noticed that too,
• 1:39:24
  like the videos, the video I did recently or not too recently,
• 1:39:28
  but like a couple months back reporting on the whole Chris
• 1:39:32
  Jones Kent. In the situation and how Chris
• 1:39:34
  Jones have been arrested. Again, I tried to use chat GPT
• 1:39:38
  to create an alternative title and write the description box
• 1:39:42
  and tags for my video. And it literally would not let
• 1:39:46
  me basically talked about how it was unsafe.
• 1:39:51
  I got into a little argument with the chat CBT because I
• 1:39:55
  wanted to do an article about it's kind of like on the same
• 1:39:59
  tangent we were going on earlier about atheists claim in the They
• 1:40:03
  come from animals and all that and I said, I'd like to do an
• 1:40:05
  article about atheist believing they come from animals.
• 1:40:09
  The things denied that as said they're not claiming that and
• 1:40:13
  it's very it's not nice to do this kind of stuff and I said,
• 1:40:16
  but they believe in evolution, right?
• 1:40:18
  That says correct. Did they come from animals?
• 1:40:21
  Yes, so they are animals know. The thing I tried to argue with
• 1:40:25
  me like a damn dumb non-believer.
• 1:40:29
  Maybe we should introduce chat GPT topology.
• 1:40:33
  And maybe they can iron this out together.
• 1:40:35
  Because remember apology, it sold me on his video response.
• 1:40:38
  That will just come from animals.
• 1:40:41
  We are animals, we currently are Apes.
• 1:40:45
  So, I would love to have chat GPT tell apologia that he's
• 1:40:48
  wrong and seeing the kind of back and forth.
• 1:40:51
  They could have that, that would be fantastic.
• 1:40:54
  Oh, I did a pop shot at the chat.
• 1:40:56
  TBT. And it seemed to be upset with
• 1:40:58
  me. I said, no wonder they call you
• 1:41:00
  artificial intelligence. Oh, Is it diligence?
• 1:41:07
  Is so artificial? Yeah, yeah.
• 1:41:13
  So you guys some more bible stuff for some more views and I
• 1:41:17
  was curious. Also, why there's a lot of
• 1:41:21
  non-believers out there, but I've noticed for at least the
• 1:41:24
  past month or two, or maybe more Paul seems to be one that you're
• 1:41:28
  specifically interested in. Why is him above the others?
• 1:41:33
  So interesting and fascinating for you, if you don't mind me
• 1:41:36
  asking, right, if you followed me, long enough, ladies and
• 1:41:40
  germs and Brett's followed me long enough.
• 1:41:42
  So he knows this, I've made videos about many of the
• 1:41:46
  different atheist YouTubers evolutionist YouTubers out
• 1:41:49
  there, I've done Professor stick and vice try no and shading Hugh
• 1:41:54
  and Sir sick and also why did interact with raging atheist on
• 1:42:00
  one of your shows when he was still the rage Janae theists and
• 1:42:05
  others that are not coming to mind, right?
• 1:42:06
  Oh yeah, genetically modified skeptic.
• 1:42:09
  I did a couple videos regarding him.
• 1:42:12
  But the reason why I've done videos about Paula Gia before,
• 1:42:16
  and why did the super epic one? Recently reason why I do it is,
• 1:42:20
  because unlike most of those other Yahoo's, he's more of a
• 1:42:24
  threat because he's got good mannerisms.
• 1:42:28
  He's got Charisma, he's articulate.
• 1:42:31
  He gives off the vibe that Is this likeable personality that
• 1:42:35
  you could really chill with. You know, he's not like a raging
• 1:42:38
  out of control, wild animal or everywhere.
• 1:42:41
  Cursing up a storm. He generally doesn't use curse
• 1:42:44
  words and the arguments. He makes on the surface seem
• 1:42:49
  convincing as far as why, you shouldn't believe in the
• 1:42:52
  biblical worldview and instead Embrace an atheistic
• 1:42:55
  evolutionary worldview. And that's why I made videos
• 1:42:59
  about him in the past. And why really went hard on him
• 1:43:02
  on my last one? His, because he's probably the
• 1:43:04
  most dangerous, one of them all, because of the fact that he's so
• 1:43:08
  likable as a person at least, you know, as his internet
• 1:43:11
  personality goes, and because he's seemingly more intelligent
• 1:43:15
  than pretty much all the other ones out there.
• 1:43:18
  So he's the most dangerous in my mind because of those things.
• 1:43:22
  And therefore, if I do make a video response to him, it's got
• 1:43:26
  to be deep in Epic. So that's why I try to do in
• 1:43:29
  that hour, 43 minutes video response I made to him.
• 1:43:33
  Because I decided to respond to every point of his 23 minute
• 1:43:36
  video. And when you choose to do that,
• 1:43:38
  that becomes a nearly two-hour response video.
• 1:43:41
  He does there is that, that I've noticed about him.
• 1:43:44
  He does also seem to have a bit more courage than the other
• 1:43:47
  unbelievers. You mentioned all the other ones
• 1:43:50
  that you debunked and refuted, they didn't have the courage to
• 1:43:54
  come back at you or anything like that, but he actually will
• 1:43:57
  get a little dirty and get in the ring and all that, so I can
• 1:44:00
  see where you're coming from. Yeah, I I've been told that, you
• 1:44:04
  know, it's a non believers who are very friendly and all that,
• 1:44:09
  that are the ones that can do the most devastating of work, a
• 1:44:12
  person that gets up on video and just screams and yells about how
• 1:44:15
  they hate God and people are going to that's only exciting
• 1:44:19
  for about five minutes. But you got a point or they
• 1:44:22
  scream and yell at you and use all kinds of curse words and
• 1:44:25
  tell you what trash, you are for being a Christian.
• 1:44:28
  Yeah, that gets old after five minutes to and it's For the
• 1:44:33
  reject those guys because they're completely unlikable and
• 1:44:36
  no one wants to be around that not even atheist.
• 1:44:39
  Generally speaking want to be around that kind of person for
• 1:44:42
  more than five minutes at a time.
• 1:44:44
  It's true. So what do you why do you think
• 1:44:47
  obviously with this much you put a lot of deep research whenever
• 1:44:52
  you're dealing with all these different unbelievers.
• 1:44:54
  What is it about him though? What's his story?
• 1:44:59
  Shannon Q? I've heard her story and that
• 1:45:01
  skeptic guy that you Brought up. What is it about this guy
• 1:45:05
  though? That you think why he does what
• 1:45:07
  he does? Well apology is back story is
• 1:45:11
  actually similar to some of the other people I've made videos
• 1:45:14
  about like Vice Rhino. For example, he used to be a
• 1:45:17
  Christian used to identify as a young Earth creationist and he
• 1:45:21
  apparently was involved at a church for a long period of
• 1:45:24
  time, but then he started exploring apologetics stuff and
• 1:45:29
  he just basically started believing what the atheist.
• 1:45:33
  Evolutionary authority figures in Academia were saying about
• 1:45:36
  everything regarding origins in reality.
• 1:45:40
  He viewed that as a higher source of authority than the
• 1:45:42
  Bible at some point. And so that started his gradual
• 1:45:46
  descent into leaving Young Earth, creationism, and leaving
• 1:45:50
  the biblical worldview and becoming an atheistic
• 1:45:52
  evolutionist. Who spends all of his time on
• 1:45:55
  the internet refuting, creationism, and Christianity,
• 1:45:59
  and the Bible and sometimes specifically going after if a IG
• 1:46:03
  and Kent hovind. So that's this basic backstory
• 1:46:07
  into why he is the way he is now.
• 1:46:11
  But was interesting about him. Do you think that he's sincere
• 1:46:14
  though? Because I've heard atheist like
• 1:46:17
  Aaron Ross, who claims he had a similar background, but when you
• 1:46:21
  listen to his understanding or his supposed experiences, it
• 1:46:25
  sounds like he's just kind of making it up.
• 1:46:28
  It sounds like he's just saying. I know all about your daddy.
• 1:46:31
  I mean what kind of nonsense Senses that I mean you get what
• 1:46:36
  I'm saying? Yeah.
• 1:46:38
  When Paula Gia has tried talking about and describing bible
• 1:46:41
  stuff, he definitely is more knowledgeable about what the
• 1:46:44
  Bible says and someone like Aaron raw, for example.
• 1:46:48
  Absolutely and that's also what makes him.
• 1:46:51
  So dangerous is he gets enough of the Bible right to give
• 1:46:54
  himself more. What's the word?
• 1:46:58
  Plausibility seems more likely that what he's saying is true?
• 1:47:03
  But yeah, it was interesting about my video response to him.
• 1:47:07
  That was the nearly two-hour. One, is that there were parts of
• 1:47:10
  his video, where it seemed like he was trying to justify
• 1:47:14
  himself. Before me like almost like in a
• 1:47:16
  way, he was begging me to give him good evidence to believe in
• 1:47:20
  God, so that he could return to the faith and the whole thing at
• 1:47:23
  first, just felt a little weird to me, it's like, why are you
• 1:47:26
  telling me this? Why are you asking for this?
• 1:47:30
  Why are you like baring your soul to me here?
• 1:47:33
  I thought I was just this little nobody, you know, but you know,
• 1:47:37
  I'm playing. All right.
• 1:47:39
  I've seen that. You're the real deal that you
• 1:47:43
  actually do sincerely believe in this and your strongly into it.
• 1:47:47
  That doesn't really surprise me because I myself, I had said
• 1:47:51
  many times in the past. I wish somebody could come along
• 1:47:54
  and be able to convince me and all that.
• 1:47:57
  So he might be one of those. He may be somebody in the future
• 1:48:00
  who you might be sitting beside on a pod.
• 1:48:03
  Outkast talking about Jesus, you know?
• 1:48:05
  Yeah, and that's something I mentioned to at the end of the
• 1:48:07
  video is that evolution is in atheists.
• 1:48:11
  Should be very scared right now, by the kind of things.
• 1:48:14
  He was saying in his video response to me, because they
• 1:48:17
  indicate that in the future, he could very easily convert back
• 1:48:21
  to Faith in the biblical worldview, and a saving
• 1:48:24
  relationship with Jesus and that should scare them spitless to be
• 1:48:28
  honest, that should scare them even more than you leaving.
• 1:48:32
  The Faith years ago, did says, apologia who I think is probably
• 1:48:37
  the best atheist YouTuber on the internet in terms of how he
• 1:48:40
  presents himself and how he does his content and all the stuff
• 1:48:45
  I've mentioned, I consider him to be the best atheist YouTuber
• 1:48:49
  on the internet right now compared to the others.
• 1:48:51
  And if he ends up converting back to the faith, some point in
• 1:48:54
  the future, like so many atheists have That's going to be
• 1:48:58
  really interesting if that happens, but you should try to
• 1:49:02
  reach out to him. Try to contact them unless you
• 1:49:04
  already have them. Say, hey, I'd like to have you
• 1:49:07
  on the live show sometime or if you'd prefer private discussion,
• 1:49:12
  you know, make it clear to him that you're not trying to do any
• 1:49:14
  kind of gotcha or spankings or anything.
• 1:49:17
  You just want to have a down-to-earth conversation with
• 1:49:20
  him, right? I'll think about that.
• 1:49:24
  It's a little tough right now, though.
• 1:49:26
  Planning content because of My new job.
• 1:49:30
  Basically. I create content for someone
• 1:49:32
  else during the day and I come home at night and try and figure
• 1:49:36
  out my own content. Are you got a lot of stuff going
• 1:49:40
  on? You got the work and then you
• 1:49:42
  gotta do all that editing and work for the church and poof,
• 1:49:46
  that's gracious, you got fucking been fun, but a lot of work
• 1:49:50
  involved. Yes.
• 1:49:54
  Is there any topics that you thought of that would be fun to
• 1:49:57
  talk about during the show? Brett, well I'm pretty much was
• 1:50:02
  interested in hearing the topics that you had for tonight.
• 1:50:05
  For me it's been a really really busy week.
• 1:50:09
  My daughter tomorrow is going to be 21 years old and we're going
• 1:50:13
  to be celebrating your birthday. And that's that's the kind of
• 1:50:17
  things I've been thinking about lately is you know, what's going
• 1:50:20
  on in the personal life. But I knew That when I show
• 1:50:24
  where you're talking and host, and about the Bible and all that
• 1:50:27
  I thought that he'd probably like, usual come up with
• 1:50:30
  something fascinating, interesting, that would reach a
• 1:50:33
  lot of people. Yeah, I try not to disappoint in
• 1:50:37
  that regard, especially since I've never really talked about
• 1:50:40
  it on my content ever in the last eight years.
• 1:50:43
  So I figured this would be the perfect Forum to explore that
• 1:50:47
  with others. What is interesting?
• 1:50:50
  I mean, here we are, were taught Talkin about non-believers that
• 1:50:54
  you've been making videos too and talking to and then on top
• 1:50:57
  of that, you have all these Bible passages that show us and
• 1:51:01
  represent, God is actually being there for the non-believer
• 1:51:05
  sometimes, even helping them to be successful in some ways
• 1:51:09
  providing this something good, of course, will come out of it.
• 1:51:12
  So it's a fantastic show. I think T TR, and I hope that we
• 1:51:16
  continue to do more like this, you always come up with good
• 1:51:19
  stuff. Thanks.
• 1:51:20
  And, and that light that's also Why I'm fascinated by watching
• 1:51:25
  The Atheist evolutionist to YouTube Community.
• 1:51:28
  It's because every time they put out, the content that they do,
• 1:51:32
  or they respond to me in particular or they talk about
• 1:51:35
  like, creationism topics or Bible topics in general.
• 1:51:39
  But always gives me really good insight into where their head
• 1:51:42
  space is at. And that's where you figure out
• 1:51:45
  how best to respond to them, but God is using them to show you
• 1:51:51
  what life is like a Art from him.
• 1:51:54
  And in some ways I guess it could be attractive to some
• 1:51:57
  people. Especially if they're looking
• 1:51:59
  like at a popular atheist content creator who's got like
• 1:52:03
  hundreds of thousands or millions of followers
• 1:52:06
  subscribers and they got all this money coming in through
• 1:52:09
  Google AdSense crowdfunding Etc. And they just seem on the
• 1:52:13
  surface to be living. This great high-quality life
• 1:52:17
  that you would like to live. I can see where some people
• 1:52:22
  would He attracted to that and you know find excuses to D
• 1:52:26
  convert from whatever Faith ahold into becoming one of those
• 1:52:30
  people. But yeah, that kind of stuff is
• 1:52:33
  never mattered to me and so it was like when I look at the
• 1:52:36
  arguments that atheists and evolutionists make, I just don't
• 1:52:39
  find them convincing on the surface and then when I actually
• 1:52:43
  look into it I find it even less convincing it's like golly gee
• 1:52:47
  is these are these really the arguments that so many young
• 1:52:50
  people are falling for in order to 2D convert to atheism
• 1:52:55
  agnosticism and you know basically justify all the
• 1:52:59
  partying they want to do like is this really it?
• 1:53:03
  So we've talked about God and we've also talked about your
• 1:53:06
  interest in atheists and evolution.
• 1:53:08
  I suppose I can throw out a topic that you might find
• 1:53:11
  fascinating have you ever thought to yourself and this is
• 1:53:14
  kind of basic. And I know some people out there
• 1:53:16
  going to probably go, huh? But we when we read the Bible,
• 1:53:21
  we have an actual reason. Then why it is that we get this,
• 1:53:24
  why females and women exist. Now I was talking to my wife had
• 1:53:29
  an attack and I said, let's say hypothetically that there wasn't
• 1:53:33
  the higher power or some kind of intelligence involved in this
• 1:53:37
  and the existence of humanity. Can you would you be able to
• 1:53:41
  come up with one Theory or idea? Honey, I said to her on why
• 1:53:45
  nature would create two separate entities that conceptualize what
• 1:53:50
  the each other such as a male and female to begin with.
• 1:53:52
  If I mean, imagine it without god without aliens or some kind
• 1:53:57
  of intelligent sentient being, why do women even exist in the
• 1:54:01
  first place, right? And then that would also lead to
• 1:54:05
  a bigger question, which is, if there is an O God, guiding any
• 1:54:10
  of this process, assuming the process even exist.
• 1:54:13
  That is evolution. Why would Evolution choose to
• 1:54:18
  allow some species or animal groups too?
• 1:54:22
  To produce reproduce asexually without a sex partner.
• 1:54:26
  And then others need a sex partner to reproduce.
• 1:54:30
  Where does this distinction get made?
• 1:54:33
  How does these, how did these decisions get made?
• 1:54:35
  As far as which species can do that in which can?
• 1:54:37
  I how does that even work? It's just something that I
• 1:54:41
  couldn't give you a good answer for and I doubt any evolutionist
• 1:54:45
  could either Another thing in this is something I brought up
• 1:54:50
  in the past and it seems to go right over non-believers heads
• 1:54:53
  on this and not the come off sounding, you know, kind of
• 1:54:57
  dirty here. But I have yet to hear a
• 1:55:00
  non-believer, explain how it is that if they did go through all
• 1:55:04
  these different evolutionary processes.
• 1:55:07
  How did the female stay compatible at the same time?
• 1:55:11
  They continue to go through their evolutionary process from,
• 1:55:14
  you know the amoeba to Whatever Atomic will structure.
• 1:55:19
  They just manage the state compatible for billions of
• 1:55:22
  years? Nobody's answered yet, right.
• 1:55:26
  And that's another good point too, because the evolution
• 1:55:31
  process is long and complicated according to its own narrative.
• 1:55:35
  And so there's a lot of opportunities along the way for
• 1:55:38
  something to go wrong. You know what I mean?
• 1:55:41
  Like there's a lot of opportunities for mutations to
• 1:55:45
  kick in or deformities if If you will and something to go wrong
• 1:55:49
  to where Evolution doesn't lead to the creation of male and
• 1:55:54
  female. Like maybe it's only male maybe
• 1:55:57
  it's only female or maybe it's both but they're both jacked up
• 1:56:01
  and can't reproduce like how how do all these things?
• 1:56:05
  Just randomly go right in order for us to be here.
• 1:56:10
  Yeah, when we read the Bible it gives us a very deep explanation
• 1:56:15
  on why females and women exist, what their purpose, what their
• 1:56:18
  point is and what is the meaning of a man and how they work
• 1:56:22
  together and their roles? But nature, doesn't give you any
• 1:56:26
  information on. It doesn't tell you why it is it
• 1:56:29
  males or females even exist in the first place, why?
• 1:56:32
  We're not just plops, you know, plopping around on the ground
• 1:56:35
  with no purpose or meaning or determination.
• 1:56:38
  Cinnamon. Yep, and if I can ask maybe out
• 1:56:44
  of context, but if I can quote agent Smith from the Matrix, he
• 1:56:48
  wants said without purpose, life cannot exist.
• 1:56:56
  We did have some quotes that make agent Smith said, a lot of
• 1:57:00
  great things that stick into my mind, even to this day.
• 1:57:06
  What did you think about? I believe it was in the third
• 1:57:09
  movie, where Keanu Reeves manages, I forget what the old
• 1:57:12
  man's name was, but it was attacked.
• 1:57:16
  Yeah, I think it was the architect.
• 1:57:18
  They had some kind of discussion on Free Will.
• 1:57:21
  How do you feel about that? Are you thinking the second
• 1:57:25
  movie where you actually meets the architect?
• 1:57:29
  Are you thinking about the agent Smith?
• 1:57:30
  Neo discussions from the third movie?
• 1:57:32
  I thought it was the third movie where he goes.
• 1:57:35
  It's an old man. It's a room filled with
• 1:57:38
  television set showing all these different versions, right?
• 1:57:41
  That's the end of the second movie.
• 1:57:44
  Although if you know your history, The Matrix Reloaded and
• 1:57:47
  The Matrix Revolutions was originally going to be one big
• 1:57:51
  movie, but they realize that nobody wanted to sit through a
• 1:57:56
  four and a half five hour movie even if it was full of amazing,
• 1:58:00
  omnipresent action sequences and great storytelling.
• 1:58:04
  So they literally split the story into two and made two
• 1:58:07
  separate movies out of them which is why both movies came
• 1:58:10
  out in the same year 2003. Who is, who's this person that
• 1:58:15
  decides of the movie? Can't be over a couple hours.
• 1:58:19
  One of the best movies Christianity is ever conceived
• 1:58:23
  of was Jesus of Nazareth and that things like, almost 8 hours
• 1:58:27
  long and I love it. I can sit down and watch it.
• 1:58:31
  I think I've ever actually seen that, but it is the best Jesus
• 1:58:36
  movie. You can ever ever watch.
• 1:58:38
  It is awesome. Also look into that one day.
• 1:58:42
  Although I We'll say, I don't think I have the ability to sit
• 1:58:46
  that long to watch a movie. All in one sitting.
• 1:58:49
  I can usually go about three hours and then that's where
• 1:58:53
  we'll do. I gotta get up move, don't try
• 1:58:55
  to sit through the whole a tower thing, just watch like 10
• 1:58:59
  minutes ago, but I guarantee once you get like 10 minutes
• 1:59:03
  into it, you're going to be like wow this is incredible and
• 1:59:07
  unlike a lot of religious movies I seen and I hate to say this
• 1:59:11
  but a lot of them are not. They Bad stuff or take things
• 1:59:14
  away that they I don't even know why, but this is accurate.
• 1:59:18
  It's from the point of Jesus being born all the way up to the
• 1:59:21
  death and Resurrection, all that.
• 1:59:23
  It's a great film in the guy actually plays Jesus, you're
• 1:59:27
  like, yeah, this is if anybody had to act for him, that would
• 1:59:31
  be the guy, I didn't, I don't know, I didn't really care for
• 1:59:35
  movies like The Passion too. Much added stuff, and it was
• 1:59:40
  just felt like a snuff film. I hate to say that her Anybody's
• 1:59:43
  feelings. But it was, it was rough.
• 1:59:46
  I wouldn't describe it as a snuff film but there were some
• 1:59:48
  things added. They're definitely not from the
• 1:59:50
  Bible. I agree.
• 1:59:51
  Actually, my favorite Bible movie is a 2003 indie film
• 1:59:58
  called The Gospel of John. It's a word-for-word reenactment
• 2:00:03
  of the entire Gospel of John, so the movie is almost 3 hours long
• 2:00:07
  because they're acting out literally every word, nothing's,
• 2:00:10
  left out, and that's one of the best It done bible-based movies.
• 2:00:14
  I've ever watched Scott, a lot of people in it and it's got
• 2:00:19
  some good sets for being an indie film and it holds up
• 2:00:23
  really good. Even after, you know, 20, some
• 2:00:25
  years whenever it came out, I think it came out in 2003, the
• 2:00:29
  year before passion did, but because it wasn't a Hollywood
• 2:00:32
  film, not a lot of people know about it.
• 2:00:34
  But if you go onto YouTube, Brett, you can probably find
• 2:00:37
  several listings of it on other people's channels.
• 2:00:40
  It's definitely something I think you would enjoy since you
• 2:00:42
  like. You know, accurate, Bible,
• 2:00:44
  movies, Gospel of John, you'd like, then there's the same
• 2:00:48
  people made the gospel of Matthew, which is a
• 2:00:51
  four-and-a-half-hour movie that does the same thing with the
• 2:00:54
  gospel of Matthew. And I think they also did the
• 2:00:56
  book of Acts in the same way. Yeah, there's some good
• 2:01:00
  bible-based movies that are like what you're into.
• 2:01:03
  It's just, they're not eight hours long.
• 2:01:05
  Like Jesus of Nazareth there, like two-and-a-half or three or
• 2:01:08
  four and a half hours. Yeah.
• 2:01:10
  Jesus of Nazareth is incredible. It's an Incredible and just just
• 2:01:14
  watch 10 minutes of it you and your you and your lady ought to
• 2:01:18
  sit down, just check out 10 minutes of it.
• 2:01:20
  And I guarantee you won't be able to stop.
• 2:01:22
  You'll be like, whoa, you know, you can always pause that are
• 2:01:26
  come back. If it's on DVD or stream ma'am,
• 2:01:29
  you don't have to just watch it all in one sitting but I'm
• 2:01:32
  telling you watch it once, just 10 minutes, you can be like wow,
• 2:01:39
  yeah, that's something I actually could.
• 2:01:40
  If it's something that's on YouTube or is On some other
• 2:01:43
  streaming site somewhere that I don't have to spend money on.
• 2:01:47
  I might actually consider doing that as a livestream series.
• 2:01:51
  It's free. It's free yarn Prime video and
• 2:01:56
  video. You can watch it on that and
• 2:01:58
  there's also this thing called free we or something like that.
• 2:02:03
  It's an app you can download and watch it for free.
• 2:02:06
  That's awesome them. Interesting.
• 2:02:09
  Have to look into that. And another one of the Things.
• 2:02:13
  I was thinking about doing as a series livestream or production,
• 2:02:17
  I'm not sure which at this point, I was considering doing a
• 2:02:23
  reading Series where I read through my superhero book, Well
• 2:02:29
  it sounds interesting maybe we need some shows on that as well.
• 2:02:33
  What do you say? That would be good.
• 2:02:36
  I just need to get in touch with my publisher and create the
• 2:02:40
  perfect version of it. First before I do something like
• 2:02:43
  that I'd like to be able to I was saying this to you while
• 2:02:49
  back. I think I brought it up to you
• 2:02:51
  by three months ago. But do you have a large as large
• 2:02:55
  of an image as you can possibly get of that symbol that you use?
• 2:02:58
  The truth objective with Jesus on the metal because I was
• 2:03:03
  telling the, I'd like to put together a shirt for you.
• 2:03:11
  Yeah, I think I have HD logos of my logo.
• 2:03:14
  I just got to look at what I want to do.
• 2:03:17
  Is I want to give it a more. I was well I was wanting to
• 2:03:22
  surprise you, but what the hell I wanted to look like a
• 2:03:26
  something that looks real. Like there's like some kind of
• 2:03:29
  metal around the circle and all that with like, a real version
• 2:03:33
  of it going on. Hey, there's your friend right
• 2:03:36
  there. Speaking of The know I was going
• 2:03:39
  to say the devil with. No, she's not.
• 2:03:43
  Hey, Shannon Q. How you doing?
• 2:03:45
  Yeah, to answer your question. No, Brett the HD logo of my
• 2:03:50
  Channel logo that I was looking at is 4009 pixels by 4009
• 2:03:56
  pixels. Is that enough?
• 2:03:58
  Or would you need something bigger?
• 2:04:03
  Say that one more time, how big four thousand and nine pixels by
• 2:04:07
  4009 pixels? Geez, that's way the more than
• 2:04:12
  enough man, but that will work a high resolution.
• 2:04:14
  The better. All right, I'll send that to you
• 2:04:17
  via email then, all right? If I, I'm going to be using a
• 2:04:21
  lot of AI software and all that stuff to do this as well as
• 2:04:25
  paint programs, us-india any ideas that I come up with that.
• 2:04:29
  I think that our need. I'll send you a A copy of it,
• 2:04:32
  get your basically, your Authority.
• 2:04:34
  I on it before we bottle prove all Yeah, I'll definitely be
• 2:04:42
  interested in seeing that when you've created something.
• 2:04:47
  So you got any more topics you want to throw out there, is
• 2:04:49
  there been anything on your mind?
• 2:04:51
  Anything personal going on? Remember, last time we talked,
• 2:04:54
  you said that you were thinking about a whole family thing.
• 2:04:57
  Is that a you and something, the lady friends think that doing,
• 2:05:00
  is there going to be a bunch of little Warriors running around
• 2:05:02
  saying I'm not about to become a father.
• 2:05:07
  No. But one thing, I definitely want
• 2:05:11
  to let you know on air and let everyone else know is that you
• 2:05:15
  recently asked me about creating a video giving all the reasons
• 2:05:20
  why I'm a young Earth creationist to this day and that
• 2:05:23
  is probably going to be my next video project.
• 2:05:27
  I have a list already made, I just got to like prepare
• 2:05:30
  everything as far as the notes and links and all that stuff and
• 2:05:34
  then I got to produce and film and produce and publish it.
• 2:05:39
  Well keep it. Mind teeth, you are, when you
• 2:05:41
  put it out there, you know, that I've always it doesn't matter to
• 2:05:46
  me, what someone's views are, even if they're different than
• 2:05:50
  mine, but I've always wanted to really understand why it is
• 2:05:54
  people capsulate and get so involved in this topic.
• 2:05:58
  I know for you, it's like obvious for you.
• 2:06:01
  It's like, yeah, I know how important this is.
• 2:06:04
  But me, I need to know as many reasons as you can possibly
• 2:06:08
  think of. Because if I Verve.
• 2:06:11
  You know, I'm old Earth creationist right now.
• 2:06:13
  If you come up with some good topics, I have an open mind.
• 2:06:16
  I'd like to be able to have some arguments for it.
• 2:06:19
  I don't want to find myself in a debate and looking like a damn
• 2:06:22
  cuckoo bird up there, you know what I mean?
• 2:06:24
  Yeah, I can say right now that the list I come up with, will be
• 2:06:28
  a combination of what the Bible says, things in science and like
• 2:06:34
  just observing the way that atheist evolutionist and older
• 2:06:38
  of creationist handle. These kind of issues.
• 2:06:42
  So it'll be like a bunch of different reasons that will
• 2:06:45
  appeal to a lot of different things.
• 2:06:47
  And I think you'll be interested just to see the variety.
• 2:06:51
  So, do you from what I was getting?
• 2:06:54
  Because you take it very seriously and I can see that
• 2:06:57
  some of the people in your comments whenever they're
• 2:06:59
  talking. Do you believe that it actually
• 2:07:02
  will majorly affect someone's salvation?
• 2:07:05
  If they were to stay older Thor, didn't even get into that.
• 2:07:10
  Part of it. Well to be fair before I
• 2:07:15
  directly answer that anything that the Bible clearly teaches
• 2:07:21
  is a Salvation issue. So for example, you told me if
• 2:07:24
  you were a Christian and you said Yeah, The Exodus from Egypt
• 2:07:29
  never happens. That'd be a Salvation issue.
• 2:07:32
  Or if you said that Samson never existed or that he never did any
• 2:07:37
  of the things that the Book of Judges said that he Did
• 2:07:41
  salvation issue because the Bible clearly teaches that he
• 2:07:44
  did exist and that he did do the things that they don't like, or
• 2:07:48
  if you say that, Jesus wasn't born of a virgin salvation issue
• 2:07:52
  because the Bible clearly teaches that every word of God
• 2:07:56
  read. Right?
• 2:07:57
  So so I don't treat older. If I don't treat young Earth,
• 2:08:01
  creationism or the 6,000 year old Earth and universe, that's
• 2:08:05
  taught by the Bible and he differently than anything else
• 2:08:09
  that the Bible clearly. Teachers, the problem.
• 2:08:12
  I'm discovering over time is that people have been
• 2:08:14
  conditioned to be very selective about which biblical teachings
• 2:08:19
  that are clearly taught or salvation issues in which you're
• 2:08:21
  not and they're actually being conditioned to say that there
• 2:08:25
  are some issues that the Bible clearly teaches on that are not
• 2:08:28
  salvation issues. Even though the Bible teaches
• 2:08:31
  those things just as clearly as the other things that we say,
• 2:08:34
  our Salvation issues and when you look at the logical format,
• 2:08:38
  I put it into in that recent Video.
• 2:08:40
  I did you can't deny the logic unless you're able to disprove
• 2:08:44
  one or more of the premises which young Earth creationists
• 2:08:49
  can't logically. That's one of the big problems I
• 2:08:53
  have with Ken Ham is that he doesn't accept the logical
• 2:08:55
  conclusion, that flows from the three premises that I got not
• 2:08:59
  just from observation, but also from his own mouth he's a man
• 2:09:04
  who literally does not accept a logical conclusions of his own
• 2:09:07
  teachings and that's something I don't respect.
• 2:09:10
  But yeah, I think the Bible clearly teaches is a Salvation
• 2:09:14
  issue. A young Earth.
• 2:09:15
  Just happens to be one of many things that the Bible clearly
• 2:09:18
  teaches. So if that being said, if
• 2:09:22
  someone doesn't know about a young Earth teaching at the
• 2:09:25
  Bible says and they are an older for until the day, they die,
• 2:09:29
  does that affect their salvation issue?
• 2:09:32
  Well, Jesus had this wonderful. Eugene that I am so thankful for
• 2:09:36
  and he taught I think of the Gospel of Luke that you're only
• 2:09:41
  responsible for what you know the person who knows much will
• 2:09:46
  be beaten with many blows but the person who knows less will
• 2:09:49
  be beaten with fewer blows. In other words, you're held
• 2:09:52
  responsible for what, you know. So if you believe in Jesus and
• 2:09:57
  you believe in the gospel but you are never aware that the
• 2:10:01
  Bible teaches a 6,000 year old Earth.
• 2:10:04
  Irfan universe and you stay unaware until you die.
• 2:10:07
  You're not going to be held responsible for that because you
• 2:10:10
  never knew it. But if you are made aware of
• 2:10:14
  what the Bible teaches regarding the age of the Earth and
• 2:10:17
  universe and you reject it for any reason, you're going to be
• 2:10:22
  held responsible for that, and that's where it becomes a
• 2:10:25
  Salvation issue. That's the one great thing about
• 2:10:29
  Jesus is that God does not hold us responsible for the things.
• 2:10:34
  We are ignorant about our, we don't know, we're held
• 2:10:36
  responsible for what we do know. And I know that other people
• 2:10:41
  have asked, well what about people in other countries who
• 2:10:43
  have never even heard of Jesus or the gospel or the Bible and
• 2:10:47
  they die that way or they automatically going to hell.
• 2:10:51
  Because there's some people who would say yes they are.
• 2:10:55
  But when you take Jesus's teaching into account, you start
• 2:10:58
  to question, okay, what things do, people know by default out
• 2:11:03
  of the womb that God will hold them responsible for, and we
• 2:11:08
  actually see what those things are in the New Testament.
• 2:11:11
  Because it Romans 1, it says that we can tell that God exists
• 2:11:16
  and what his attributes are simply by observing the created
• 2:11:19
  reality around us. And then I think it's earlier or
• 2:11:24
  later, In Romans where it says, that the laws of God are in the
• 2:11:30
  hearts of everyone, regardless of whether they believe or not,
• 2:11:34
  it's something that's built into our hearts and into our
• 2:11:37
  consciences. So that's why someone's
• 2:11:40
  conscience, could convict them of things of the Bible, would
• 2:11:43
  convict them of even if they're not aware that, the Bible can
• 2:11:46
  victim of those things because God built his laws into our
• 2:11:49
  hearts. So basically, there is a
• 2:11:52
  baseline for the person. Who's never heard of Jesus, the
• 2:11:55
  gospel or the Bible's worldview, or teachings, and that Baseline
• 2:12:00
  is whether or not they acknowledge that God exists.
• 2:12:04
  And that they acknowledge was attributes are based off of The
• 2:12:07
  observed creation and they'll be held responsible to some degree
• 2:12:12
  about whether or not they follow the laws of God that were in
• 2:12:16
  their hearts. So I think that's the Baseline
• 2:12:19
  that God's going to judge those people by And that's one of the
• 2:12:23
  things that makes God. One of the most fair and just
• 2:12:27
  beans. Actually, he's the most fair and
• 2:12:29
  just being that's ever existed in that currently exists is that
• 2:12:34
  he doesn't judge Everyone by the exact same standard.
• 2:12:38
  He judges people by a fair standard, mainly what they know.
• 2:12:44
  And so no more your held responsible for more, if you're,
• 2:12:47
  you know, less, you're held responsible for less.
• 2:12:49
  But there is a baseline at the worst case.
• 2:12:52
  Rio, let's say that we were to do a show where we had five
• 2:12:56
  young Earth creationist come in, and I would ask the question.
• 2:13:00
  So how old is the earth? And someone says that's about
• 2:13:03
  seven thousand years. Another person says that 9,000
• 2:13:08
  blah blah, blah. Another person even goes earlier
• 2:13:11
  than that. How would I go about knowing
• 2:13:14
  which one of them is, right? Even though they're all young
• 2:13:16
  Earth creationist, I will admit that part does involve some work
• 2:13:22
  because there's different methods to how people arrive at
• 2:13:25
  the different ages. I because I know there's some
• 2:13:27
  people who say that the Earth is 10,000 years old.
• 2:13:31
  I ultimately don't have a problem with someone saying that
• 2:13:34
  the Earth is like seven to ten thousand years old, because that
• 2:13:37
  doesn't do one thing to support a theistic Evolution, her deep
• 2:13:40
  time. But basically I the way I
• 2:13:45
  understand it is that there are some things in the Technically
• 2:13:49
  dpor even if someone were to come in here and say I'm young
• 2:13:53
  Earth, but I believe the Earth is 100,000 years that still
• 2:13:56
  wouldn't be enough for evolution.
• 2:13:58
  You could throw 1 million onto it and it still wouldn't work
• 2:14:01
  for their time frame but go ahead.
• 2:14:04
  Yeah. So anyway the the ages that
• 2:14:07
  people come to the calculations are based on either whether they
• 2:14:11
  only use the Bible which if you only use the Bible, you're going
• 2:14:14
  to get around. Six thousand one hundred ninety,
• 2:14:17
  three years ruff. Ali, you know from current
• 2:14:21
  moment to the beginning or if you go with Bible but then you
• 2:14:26
  assume that there's all these missing people in the
• 2:14:29
  genealogies and the Old Testament.
• 2:14:32
  Even if you fill in those gaps that allegedly or there with
• 2:14:36
  people that only adds up another 4,000 years, roughly So that's
• 2:14:41
  how the different younger people go can say, you know, well, I
• 2:14:44
  say it's 6,000. Well, I should say it's 7,000.
• 2:14:47
  I say it's 10,000. That's the difference between
• 2:14:50
  the numbers. It's basically dependent upon
• 2:14:53
  whether or not they just go with the biblical data as is or they
• 2:14:58
  posit that there are gaps and they attempt to fill those gaps
• 2:15:01
  with real data and then that real data ends up adding another
• 2:15:04
  4,000 years. So that's that's where the
• 2:15:06
  different age ranges come from in the young Earth camp.
• 2:15:11
  Well, basically, the point that I was making whenever I brought
• 2:15:14
  that up, that even if he had five different young Earth
• 2:15:16
  creationists, and they all believe it's somewhere between 0
• 2:15:21
  to 10,000 years old. If one of them is closed, but
• 2:15:27
  the other four absolutely off is that going to be a Salvation
• 2:15:31
  issue for them and they're already in the same wagon.
• 2:15:35
  Yeah, I wouldn't put anyone in the 10,000 and Below club and
• 2:15:42
  the danger list for salvation. Like I said, it depends on if
• 2:15:48
  you want to fill those gaps that allegedly exist exist in the
• 2:15:51
  genealogies or not. I don't think the gaps are
• 2:15:54
  there. So that's why I come with the
• 2:15:57
  6000 number, I do. But yeah, even if you fill the
• 2:16:01
  gaps it doesn't add nearly enough time for any kind of Deep
• 2:16:04
  time Evolution plausibility to exist.
• 2:16:09
  So I don't exact, I don't judge those people at all for coming
• 2:16:14
  up with the slightly higher numbers that they do.
• 2:16:16
  I know a young Earth creationist who's actually one of the few
• 2:16:21
  that teaches that the days of creation were actually shorter
• 2:16:26
  than the days we experience today.
• 2:16:28
  Their theory is that the days of creation were somewhere between
• 2:16:32
  15 to 17 hours. Long.
• 2:16:35
  And basically, his logic was that over the last six thousand
• 2:16:39
  years, the law of entropy among other things has caused the
• 2:16:43
  rotation of the earth to slow down to the point where today,
• 2:16:47
  it takes, you know, 24 hours for the earth to do.
• 2:16:51
  It's full, you know, spin rotation around the Sun instead
• 2:16:56
  of fifteen Seventeen hours like it allegedly happened at the
• 2:16:59
  beginning. Yeah, there's truck seen in
• 2:17:02
  videos out there were not only We do people are claiming even
• 2:17:06
  scientists are claiming your at this slows down, like so
• 2:17:10
  incremental and all that. But they also stated that the
• 2:17:14
  way the Sun the Earth is going around the Sun and all that and
• 2:17:17
  the in the Milky Way it's it's also slowing down as well but
• 2:17:22
  spreading out due to the big bang and expansion.
• 2:17:26
  So I mean there's a lot of there's a lot of time steaks
• 2:17:30
  here. You know what I mean?
• 2:17:32
  Yeah, I get it. Oh, I was just, I lost my train
• 2:17:38
  of thought. I'll try to remind you.
• 2:17:42
  We were, we were talking about people that are guests in the
• 2:17:45
  estimate between 10,000 years. And then we talked about some
• 2:17:49
  people out there who view that the Earth is slow down.
• 2:17:52
  Oh yeah, that's it. That's now I remember I was
• 2:17:56
  going to say the only that the guy that I know why I used to
• 2:18:00
  talk with back in the day and I have his book where he outlines
• 2:18:03
  all his theories. I find his theory about the
• 2:18:08
  Earth, being a fifth, a day on the Earth being 15 to 17 hours
• 2:18:12
  long for the days of creation. I found that theory plausible,
• 2:18:16
  because law of entropy is a real thing, and it affects everything
• 2:18:20
  in this reality. So, there's no doubt, it would
• 2:18:23
  affect the spin of the earth and cause it to slow down over time.
• 2:18:27
  But ultimately, even if it wasn't plausible, I don't really
• 2:18:32
  have a problem with the theory itself because Doesn't really do
• 2:18:36
  anything to support deep time, atheism, Evolution, or anything
• 2:18:40
  similar to those three things. It's just, you know, and
• 2:18:43
  alternative theory about how long the days of creation were
• 2:18:47
  because I've seen this guy and like, the traditional young
• 2:18:49
  Earth creationists, who believe that the days of creation of
• 2:18:52
  always been 24 hours long, even on the first six days, they had
• 2:18:57
  some really heated debates in the past on the internet about
• 2:19:00
  that which I just found a little bit silly because you know, it
• 2:19:04
  doesn't matter which one One's true because neither one of them
• 2:19:06
  support deep time in any way. So I'm not like a super, I'm not
• 2:19:14
  like a super militant person, as far as theories go.
• 2:19:17
  And I'll another problem that creationists have is those who
• 2:19:20
  create like their own theories about how certain events in the
• 2:19:24
  Bible went down like the flood of Noah, a lot of people like
• 2:19:27
  that will get married to their theories.
• 2:19:30
  Then they start equating their theories to Bible Doctrine and
• 2:19:34
  when people descent from their theories, that's when they start
• 2:19:36
  the heresy charges, where they questioned people sad?
• 2:19:40
  Ation and I always resolved never to be that kind of person
• 2:19:44
  that if I was going to accuse someone of being a heretic based
• 2:19:48
  on something, they say about the Bible.
• 2:19:50
  I want to make sure the Bible actually said that before I
• 2:19:53
  would accuse them of something and when it comes to the flood
• 2:19:56
  of Noah, the Bible tells us what happened but it doesn't give us
• 2:20:00
  any. Well doesn't give us many
• 2:20:01
  details on the mechanisms behind it so I'm content to let the
• 2:20:06
  young Earth. Creationism Community come up
• 2:20:08
  with all the flood. Some theories they want to and
• 2:20:12
  are not going to consider any of its salvation issue.
• 2:20:14
  Because the Bible is not clear on it.
• 2:20:17
  Notice how I judge Things based on whether the Bible is clear or
• 2:20:20
  not. I hear you, man, I hear you.
• 2:20:25
  And I've had a lot of discussions with young Earth
• 2:20:28
  creationist in the past and I have asked people to be more
• 2:20:32
  specific. It always comes down to what
• 2:20:35
  I've noticed is the argument is always the Jannah ology in the
• 2:20:38
  Bible. They say, well, this is a Matt
• 2:20:41
  and of course is people who are going along with the six days.
• 2:20:44
  But the issue is is whenever you also, you know, you bring God
• 2:20:49
  into the equation. God clearly points out several
• 2:20:52
  times in the Bible that his time is a lot different than our own.
• 2:20:57
  I mean, he's in, he seems to be in all different places even in
• 2:21:01
  a state of time. That we can't even bother to
• 2:21:04
  comprehend. He's not lying here.
• 2:21:06
  Like we are right and I agree with that.
• 2:21:10
  Completely the difference though is that God himself in Exodus
• 2:21:17
  specifically told us how long the days of creation were in
• 2:21:20
  Exodus 20:8-11 which I'm sure you're familiar with the
• 2:21:23
  passage. By at this point, it's where
• 2:21:26
  he's talking to the Israelites and the Moses and he tells them
• 2:21:29
  you are to work for six days and rest on the seventh because I
• 2:21:33
  created the universe, the Earth, the sea and everything that is
• 2:21:36
  in those three things over six days and rested on the 7th.
• 2:21:40
  She basically was telling them to do something that he himself
• 2:21:44
  did and the language of that passage is 100% into indicative
• 2:21:50
  of the days of creation being ordinary days like we
• 2:21:54
  experienced today. So when that kind of playing
• 2:21:57
  clear language comes from God himself after God told Moses and
• 2:22:03
  Miriam and Aaron that he spoke to Moses clearly and not in
• 2:22:08
  riddles. He when he Revealed things to
• 2:22:11
  Moses. That's one of those things that
• 2:22:13
  lets, you know, that the days of creation were ordinary days like
• 2:22:17
  we experienced today because God himself said it, and he told
• 2:22:21
  everyone in the Old Testament. By the way, when I spoke to
• 2:22:24
  Moses, who wrote all these things that you're reading.
• 2:22:28
  I spoke to him in a straightforward manner, I didn't
• 2:22:30
  speak in any kind of coded language that he had to
• 2:22:33
  reinterpret later. And then, you know, ascertain
• 2:22:37
  the meeting, write it down and all that and that's why I also
• 2:22:40
  Appreciate about God is he didn't have to make things clear
• 2:22:43
  for us at all. He could have been ambiguous as
• 2:22:47
  to the origins of our Earth and universe.
• 2:22:50
  He didn't have to tell us how long ago he made the Earth and
• 2:22:54
  universe, or how long it took, or by what process it was, which
• 2:22:57
  was the speech of his mouth. According to the Old Testament,
• 2:23:01
  he didn't have to do any of that and yet he chose to.
• 2:23:06
  And since he chose to, I assume that it's an important enough
• 2:23:09
  thing to to consider and talk about and hold onto.
• 2:23:13
  If he thought it was important enough to talk about in any way,
• 2:23:17
  shape, or form. This next question, I have me
• 2:23:20
  come off kind of weird. It's going to be difficult
• 2:23:23
  challenging on how to articulate this.
• 2:23:26
  But obviously, the Bible says in the beginning and God starts
• 2:23:31
  doing this creation of the universe and the the world's and
• 2:23:35
  all this and life. But God would have existed in a
• 2:23:39
  state of eternal, Permanently before the universe and time
• 2:23:42
  began. Right.
• 2:23:44
  Right. So whenever he speaks of in the
• 2:23:47
  beginning, he's literally talking about the beginning of
• 2:23:50
  the creation process, I'm not sure how a religious person or
• 2:23:54
  spiritual person, could put a time frame on a being that lives
• 2:23:59
  in eternity outside of time. But do you think that God, if we
• 2:24:04
  were to, like, speculate a little bit?
• 2:24:07
  If you're cool with that, do you think God existed?
• 2:24:10
  For a while before he started creating before that beginning
• 2:24:14
  of time started, or was it a media?
• 2:24:18
  Not a clue. I mean, he had to exist before
• 2:24:21
  reality did in order to make it so that's pretty obvious.
• 2:24:26
  But as far as how long he was around the before he decided to
• 2:24:30
  create the Earth and universe, I couldn't answer that for you,
• 2:24:35
  Bible gives you zero information on that, but that would be a
• 2:24:40
  Great question to ask him yourself when you get to heaven,
• 2:24:44
  because that's something only, he knows and he chose not to
• 2:24:47
  reveal it to us at this time. So to me that's just one of
• 2:24:51
  those ask God and Heaven questions.
• 2:24:54
  I hear you. There's a lot of stuff.
• 2:24:56
  I'll be having conversations with them long as he finds me
• 2:25:00
  worthy enough to get up there. I'm not as non humble, some
• 2:25:03
  people where they think they got a full guarantee on that.
• 2:25:06
  I know I can be a creep sometimes.
• 2:25:10
  Yeah, I know that feeling I know that feeling but anyway I'm
• 2:25:16
  basically out of time so I need to wrap this up and get dinner
• 2:25:22
  and move on to some other stuff before I go to bed tonight.
• 2:25:25
  But thank you for having me on the show.
• 2:25:27
  Breton, thank you for letting me host things for these last
• 2:25:30
  couple hours. Well, if you come up with any
• 2:25:33
  more topics or anything like that, I'm more than happy to
• 2:25:37
  hand over the reins and let you put something out.
• 2:25:40
  There. I think that we've covered a lot
• 2:25:42
  of really interesting topics that may help some people out
• 2:25:44
  there. Get people at least thinking
• 2:25:47
  that's what's important. You know to grab the heart and
• 2:25:49
  say hey it was a pleasure, having you here, T TR, I'll keep
• 2:25:53
  watching the videos and check it out.
• 2:25:55
  I'll be looking out for that other video.
• 2:25:57
  If it takes you a while to get it together, there won't be no
• 2:26:01
  resentment. I understand, you're very busy
• 2:26:03
  man. Getting your life together and
• 2:26:05
  all that. Yeah, yeah, when you're
• 2:26:08
  producing media for another. Ization, as a full-time job.
• 2:26:13
  Doing it on the side for your own self is a little bit
• 2:26:17
  different. There's not the same opportunity
• 2:26:21
  or you just burned out on the same actions, a little bit, but
• 2:26:24
  I will find a way in persevere because I have not gotten any
• 2:26:28
  indication from God that he wants me to stop doing teaching,
• 2:26:31
  you are before we leave. I forgot to say.
• 2:26:36
  Congratulations on reaching 500 Subs on your channel, Brett.
• 2:26:41
  Probably 90% of them want to Stone me to death.
• 2:26:47
  There's some good people out there.
• 2:26:49
  Yep. Hopefully you get to a 1000
• 2:26:52
  sooner than you got to 500 and then you can start enabling
• 2:26:55
  those chat donations. Well, dqr, I kind of don't even,
• 2:27:02
  I used to think about that kind of stuff in the past.
• 2:27:04
  Used to think, you know, if I get to this goal, I can do this,
• 2:27:08
  I can do this nowadays, I just kind of Let it Fly and I wake up
• 2:27:13
  and wonder as my page even going to still be there.
• 2:27:16
  That's fragment for. My thoughts are.
• 2:27:19
  And if it is and I say well maybe we'll make a video today.
• 2:27:25
  Yeah, I know that's the only Paul Joseph Watson said the same
• 2:27:28
  kind of thing years ago when the big text censorship stuff was
• 2:27:32
  really starting to go off. But the another thing too,
• 2:27:37
  because of my personal experiences with social media,
• 2:27:41
  When I look at the numbers they don't I don't want to sound like
• 2:27:45
  an ass by saying this but the numbers don't impress me anymore
• 2:27:49
  what makes me happy and what keeps me going as being able to
• 2:27:52
  have these great conversations with guys, like you looking at
• 2:27:56
  numbers it's just math that can go away in a matter of seconds.
• 2:28:00
  But friendship is forever. Yep, I agree with that
• 2:28:04
  completely. And with that, I bid all you
• 2:28:07
  guys farewell and I'll that, Brett transition us out.
• 2:28:10
  Out, see you next time. Hello, ladies and gentlemen, my
• 2:30:38
  name is Brett Keen from God TV radio.
• 2:30:41
  I hope you're all having a blessed day.
• 2:30:43
  If you would like to support God TV radio, you can do a one-time
• 2:30:47
  donation through PayPal or you can buy us a gift off of Amazon
• 2:30:52
  wish list or you can buy one of my books after life simulation
• 2:30:58
  Is the newest installment of my novels and written works, or you
• 2:31:03
  could buy some of our music and art.
• 2:31:06
  Also, I sell merchandise such as t-shirts, mugs, towels, clothes,
• 2:31:11
  apparel anything that your heart desires.
• 2:31:15
  God bless.