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Start Up, Start Over, or Just Start With Katie Jordan · The Confident Entrepreneur With Jennifer Ann Johnson

• 0:37
  Jennifer Johnson: Too many of us get stuck in victim mentality, blaming circumstances or other people or bad luck as to where we're at in life.
• 0:46
  Jennifer Johnson: But here's the truth.
• 0:48
  Jennifer Johnson: Staying in that mindset keeps us powerless and prevents us from creating the changes that we desperately want to see.
• 0:57
  Jennifer Johnson: Sometimes we need to start something, start up, start something new, start over after a setback, or just start moving in any direction.
• 1:07
  Jennifer Johnson: The key is to take ownership and action instead of waiting for someone else to fix our problems.
• 1:13
  Jennifer Johnson: Today I have the pleasure of speaking with Katie Jordan.
• 1:16
  Jennifer Johnson: She helps divorced women find freedom and fulfillment after the shock has worn off.
• 1:21
  Jennifer Johnson: We're going to explore her book, which is titled Start Up, Start Over or Just Start, and the Butterfly Tribe that she created to help people break free from the victim mentality and take control of their lives.
• 1:35
  Jennifer Johnson: Welcome, Katie.
• 1:37
  Katie Jordan: Thank you.
• 1:38
  Katie Jordan: I am so excited to be here today.
• 1:41
  Katie Jordan: Lots of exciting things happening.
• 1:44
  Jennifer Johnson: Absolutely.
• 1:45
  Jennifer Johnson: And there's this is just so great to talk about because so many times people do get stuck in the, oh, well, this happened and this happened.
• 1:55
  Jennifer Johnson: And the more they tell that story, the more they believe it, the more it feeds on itself.
• 2:00
  Jennifer Johnson: And then it becomes this giant monster and this giant reason why I can't do anything.
• 2:06
  Jennifer Johnson: Because I am a victim.
• 2:08
  Jennifer Johnson: Yes.
• 2:10
  Jennifer Johnson: We have all seen it.
• 2:11
  Jennifer Johnson: We've all had somebody in our lives or met someone or had some dose of reality with that.
• 2:17
  Jennifer Johnson: First of all, I want to know.
• 2:19
  Jennifer Johnson: I love this the name of your book.
• 2:21
  Jennifer Johnson: I want to know what inspired you to write your book.
• 2:25
  Jennifer Johnson: It's called again Startup, Start Over, or Just Start.
• 2:29
  Jennifer Johnson: What inspired you to write that book?
• 2:32
  Katie Jordan: So this book is really a compilation, and it started out.
• 2:40
  Katie Jordan: So there's 13 women in the book, and it's about their journey in entrepreneurship.
• 2:46
  Katie Jordan: But my journey in entrepreneurship started when I was probably 11 years old.
• 2:54
  Katie Jordan: I was that kid that came from a family where if you wanted it, you had to work for it and buy it yourself, right?
• 3:01
  Katie Jordan: So I sold everything from wrapping paper to i babysit to buy that cheerleading uniform in high school, you know, all of those things, but not realizing where that would take me until later in life.
• 3:19
  Katie Jordan: So fast forward to 2017, I was seven months pregnant with my daughter, and my grandmother passed away.
• 3:33
  Katie Jordan: Okay.
• 3:34
  Katie Jordan: She it's one of those situations that she was this amazing woman.
• 3:41
  Katie Jordan: She worked at the nursing home.
• 3:43
  Katie Jordan: I remember in the kitchen, and I remember her baking cookies and stuff like that.
• 3:47
  Katie Jordan: So we would always go see her there, but she had dementia.
• 3:51
  Katie Jordan: So the grandma that I knew and remembered was gone mentally before her physical body was.
• 4:02
  Katie Jordan: So that's a whole interesting thing in itself because you're saying goodbye twice.
• 4:07
  Katie Jordan: Then you just fast forward another year.
• 4:13
  Katie Jordan: And in May of 2018, I actually in April, I lost my father.
• 4:23
  Katie Jordan: And you know, you're like, okay, I can deal with this.
• 4:30
  Katie Jordan: We're gonna make it through that.
• 4:32
  Katie Jordan: I will never forget the morning that it happened.
• 4:35
  Katie Jordan: He had been sick, but he was doing really well.
• 4:38
  Katie Jordan: So, you know, you just kind of, I don't want to say almost take for granted, but you kind of do.
• 4:44
  Katie Jordan: That was the last phone call I expected one morning while I was at work.
• 4:52
  Katie Jordan: And I will never forget, you know, it's it's one of those moments you never forget where you're at, what you are doing.
• 4:59
  Katie Jordan: It was first thing in my day, and my sister, my oldest sister, called, and she was with my mom at that time, and you know, she was like, Hey, dad has passed.
• 5:16
  Katie Jordan: Okay, there's some more heartache to add to the pile, right?
• 5:21
  Katie Jordan: Yeah, then you fast forward about seven months from there, that same sister that called me began having seizures.
• 5:34
  Jennifer Johnson: Oh my goodness.
• 5:36
  Katie Jordan: She was diagnosed with brain cancer.
• 5:39
  Jennifer Johnson: Wow.
• 5:40
  Katie Jordan: And we lost her in 2020.
• 5:45
  Katie Jordan: And it's amazing how it's been five years and it's still like really kind of raw.
• 5:54
  Katie Jordan: Right.
• 5:55
  Katie Jordan: Um, and then I'm like, okay, surely that's gotta be my fair share of grief.
• 6:03
  Katie Jordan: Right.
• 6:04
  Katie Jordan: Right.
• 6:05
  Katie Jordan: Fast forward to a year later.
• 6:09
  Katie Jordan: We do a lot of fast forwarding here, right?
• 6:11
  Katie Jordan: When you're in it, it seems like an eternity, right?
• 6:16
  Katie Jordan: 2021.
• 6:18
  Katie Jordan: We decide to separate and sell our house.
• 6:27
  Jennifer Johnson: Yeah.
• 6:27
  Katie Jordan: Our daughter had just turned four.
• 6:30
  Katie Jordan: I was like, okay, I think I've had more than my fair share of stuff.
• 6:39
  Katie Jordan: I will never forget one of those first pickups when she's in the car seat getting buckled in.
• 6:50
  Katie Jordan: And we say, we always said see you later.
• 6:53
  Katie Jordan: We didn't ever want to say goodbye.
• 6:55
  Jennifer Johnson: Right.
• 6:56
  Katie Jordan: Um, and I just remember the pit in my stomach.
• 7:01
  Katie Jordan: And I'm like, how am I going to go on?
• 7:07
  Katie Jordan: What is you know?
• 7:13
  Katie Jordan: And at that point I knew that I had two choices.
• 7:16
  Katie Jordan: I could stay in that pit of despair and the woe-me, or I could get up and do something about it.
• 7:26
  Katie Jordan: And that's when I really decided, okay, does this suck a thousand times?
• 7:36
  Katie Jordan: But I am not going to stay here and play that victim.
• 7:45
  Katie Jordan: You know, um at that point, that's when I really kind of decided that, and as I went through this divorce journey on the back of all this other f grief of physically losing people, I was like, you know what?
• 8:05
  Katie Jordan: If I felt alone through certain things in this, there are other women out there going through similar things.
• 8:15
  Katie Jordan: And you should never have to go or feel like you're going through those things alone.
• 8:22
  Jennifer Johnson: Right.
• 8:23
  Katie Jordan: And that is where Butterfly Trag Blueprint was born out of.
• 8:29
  Katie Jordan: The butterfly portion is not the fun portion because it's that cocoon, the breakdown, the tears in the middle of the night, the oh my gosh, all I want to do is call him and share with him what happened at work today, or all of these things.
• 8:51
  Jennifer Johnson: Right.
• 8:52
  Katie Jordan: You know, but that caterpillar doesn't stay there.
• 8:56
  Katie Jordan: They go through the process, right?
• 8:59
  Katie Jordan: So you go through that process and you come out with these amazing wings.
• 9:08
  Jennifer Johnson: That is your butterfly.
• 9:10
  Katie Jordan: Yeah.
• 9:11
  Katie Jordan: And then the tribe portion of it is surrounding yourself with people who will be supportive.
• 9:20
  Jennifer Johnson: Did that the did the tribe happen first, or was it the book?
• 9:24
  Jennifer Johnson: The tribe happened first.
• 9:26
  Jennifer Johnson: Okay.
• 9:28
  Katie Jordan: I because I never really thought I would be an author.
• 9:33
  Jennifer Johnson: Sure.
• 9:34
  Katie Jordan: Nobody ever does.
• 9:35
  Katie Jordan: I've heard you in one of the other podcasts too.
• 9:39
  Katie Jordan: Um, and that is, you know, that's it's an amazing thing.
• 9:45
  Katie Jordan: You're like, you know what?
• 9:46
  Katie Jordan: And especially when you do get to surround yourself with amazing women.
• 9:50
  Katie Jordan: So I was so embarrassed and ashamed because in my family, my parents had been married 40 plus years.
• 10:01
  Katie Jordan: Like, you know, people didn't get right divorced.
• 10:06
  Katie Jordan: I did not even tell my family that we had sold the house until like three months later.
• 10:17
  Jennifer Johnson: Wow.
• 10:18
  Katie Jordan: Because I knew I wanted to be in a more emotionally stable place.
• 10:25
  Katie Jordan: I for some crazy reason thought I had to carry a lot of this stuff on my own.
• 10:30
  Katie Jordan: And I was in a coaching group at the time of some amazing women from Canada and the US.
• 10:39
  Katie Jordan: And yeah, they hadn't been divorced.
• 10:42
  Katie Jordan: We'd never met in person, but they were such an amazing support and my tribe.
• 10:51
  Jennifer Johnson: There you go.
• 10:51
  Jennifer Johnson: There's your butterfly tribe.
• 10:53
  Katie Jordan: Yep.
• 10:54
  Katie Jordan: And then, you know, the blueprint is that working through different steps to propel yourself forward, you know, whether it's just getting out of bed every day and making one little step with forward momentum.
• 11:13
  Jennifer Johnson: So how do you actually help?
• 11:15
  Jennifer Johnson: Because you coach people and help people through this, I know, and you also speak on this topic, but how do you shift people from this happened to me thinking to what am I gonna do about it?
• 11:28
  Jennifer Johnson: The actual taking action step.
• 11:30
  Jennifer Johnson: How do you coach them through that?
• 11:33
  Katie Jordan: Well, a lot of that, and you know, just like in business, it starts with an awareness.
• 11:37
  Katie Jordan: Okay, I know that I am here, but I don't want to stay here.
• 11:44
  Katie Jordan: So for me, that started with, and this is what I've helped women through too, that mindset shift instead of saying, Oh, poor me, I don't have anything to give.
• 12:04
  Katie Jordan: How of us, what is my life gonna look like moving forward?
• 12:08
  Katie Jordan: I can't have the things that I wanted to have or that I thought I would have.
• 12:14
  Katie Jordan: And taking and changing those into a positive interpretation, and that's where I incorporate the I am statements, and it helps to reset your mind.
• 12:27
  Katie Jordan: So I started with simple things like I am bold, I am beautiful, I am confident, because sometimes you don't feel those when you're saying it.
• 12:38
  Katie Jordan: Right, right, but you continue to say those, right?
• 12:43
  Katie Jordan: And then you're like, Yeah, I am.
• 12:46
  Katie Jordan: Why do I have to walk into a room?
• 12:51
  Katie Jordan: Yeah, why do I have to walk into a room and shrink?
• 12:55
  Katie Jordan: No, I can walk in and hold my head high and be like, you know what?
• 13:03
  Katie Jordan: This moment in my life sucked.
• 13:05
  Katie Jordan: But look at this new thing that I'm starting to create.
• 13:10
  Katie Jordan: So those two things are a part of my daily routine.
• 13:15
  Jennifer Johnson: So the interesting part of this is it sounds like like the butterfly tribe.
• 13:20
  Jennifer Johnson: That's a community.
• 13:22
  Jennifer Johnson: Yes.
• 13:23
  Jennifer Johnson: And how about how community can help foster that in someone, that confidence and help build that up?
• 13:32
  Katie Jordan: Well, that one's always fun because it is so important for us to surround ourselves with people who are not willing to stay in the yuck as well.
• 13:50
  Katie Jordan: You know, they may only be two steps ahead of you, but they're giving you that safe place to say, you know what, I can't do this today by myself.
• 14:02
  Katie Jordan: But we can do it together.
• 14:06
  Jennifer Johnson: And that I'm glad you said that because I was kind of going into my next portion of like question was about what role surrounding yourself with the right people, what what what effect that has on you going through a transition or going through a rough patch?
• 14:23
  Jennifer Johnson: It's pretty important.
• 14:25
  Katie Jordan: It gives you hope.
• 14:27
  Katie Jordan: You know, like, okay, I can do this.
• 14:33
  Katie Jordan: Right.
• 14:33
  Katie Jordan: Um, I think the other portion of it that is so important too is you also could start to see yourself out of where you're at, like steps forward and where you want to go.
• 14:50
  Jennifer Johnson: Do you think any of the lessons that you've learned through this whole process apply to the business aspect?
• 14:58
  Jennifer Johnson: Because you have a business where you're working with people and you're speaking and you're doing all the things.
• 15:04
  Jennifer Johnson: Has any of this applied to business setbacks?
• 15:08
  Jennifer Johnson: Can you use the same tools?
• 15:12
  Katie Jordan: Of course, of course.
• 15:15
  Katie Jordan: Um it's, you know, I laugh when I look back at the things that I have done, you know, because you're like, oh, well, this sounds good.
• 15:25
  Katie Jordan: I might try this.
• 15:27
  Jennifer Johnson: Oh my gosh, I didn't even think about it.
• 15:31
  Katie Jordan: That's why it's funny when I do think about it, right?
• 15:33
  Katie Jordan: Because I'm like, I've been the Mary Kay lady, I've been the Pamford Chef lady, I've been the right, I'm the Katie the Bling lady.
• 15:43
  Katie Jordan: Because I was jewelry, and um there's so many because I think one of the biggest lessons, right, that goes hand in hand from the business side and the personal side is that resilience.
• 16:02
  Katie Jordan: Because, and I've gone through this, there are days in your business you don't want to go live, you don't want to do the things that you know you need to do to propel yourself forward, but you still have to do them.
• 16:21
  Jennifer Johnson: You do the hard stuff, yeah.
• 16:24
  Katie Jordan: But when you help and you see somebody else have that aha moment, it's like that's what it's about.
• 16:33
  Katie Jordan: Or for me, my daughter turns to me and says, Mom, that's pretty amazing.
• 16:39
  Katie Jordan: Or she's like, Why don't you practice?
• 16:42
  Katie Jordan: She's eight.
• 16:43
  Katie Jordan: She's like, Why don't you practice speaking in front of me?
• 16:46
  Katie Jordan: And I was like, Oh, okay, we can change that.
• 16:49
  Katie Jordan: The hardest critic of them all, right?
• 16:51
  Katie Jordan: I well, she's, you know, kids see us in such a different light than we see ourselves.
• 16:59
  Katie Jordan: And when I was working on I am statements, one day I just turned to her and I was like, Hey, what would you add to this?
• 17:09
  Katie Jordan: And you talk about those aha moments, you're like, whoa, you know, yeah.
• 17:18
  Jennifer Johnson: Right.
• 17:19
  Katie Jordan: She was like, she was the one that started the I am bold or I am beautiful and I'm bold.
• 17:26
  Jennifer Johnson: So that is cool.
• 17:29
  Jennifer Johnson: When somebody is feeling overwhelmed by the situation that they're in or circumstances, how would you suggest that they decide whether they start up something new or they start over, or they just take the first step?
• 17:47
  Katie Jordan: Hmm.
• 17:48
  Katie Jordan: It's funny that you say this because I feel like this situation kind of happened to me yesterday.
• 17:56
  Katie Jordan: Um, I just felt overwhelmed by a lot of things.
• 18:02
  Katie Jordan: And I was like, you know what?
• 18:03
  Katie Jordan: I just need to step back.
• 18:06
  Katie Jordan: And I think that is part of it, is we have to step back.
• 18:11
  Katie Jordan: And, you know, now all the big rages, all the self-care and everything like that, but self-care also comes from self-trust, and I feel like it has taken me a while to trust myself to make decisions on my own now that are I never would have done before, you know.
• 18:38
  Jennifer Johnson: Big ones, the big decisions.
• 18:41
  Katie Jordan: Yeah.
• 18:42
  Katie Jordan: Um, you know, it is when you're ready to go all in on something and you know this is gonna have an impact in other people's lives, it can be scary.
• 18:55
  Katie Jordan: But what we have to do is we have to take it in small pieces.
• 19:00
  Katie Jordan: So stepping back and saying, okay, I'm not there right now, but these steps that I'm gonna take will get me there.
• 21:38
  Katie Jordan: I know what that feels like, helping people, you know?
• 21:44
  Jennifer Johnson: You just mentioned fear.
• 21:46
  Jennifer Johnson: What part of how does fear play a part in all of this?
• 21:55
  Jennifer Johnson: Because I'm sure it does, I'm sure, but wow, how do you see that in how it's shown up in your life or with the people that you're coaching and working with?
• 22:08
  Katie Jordan: If we let it, fear can be it can paralyze us, right?
• 22:15
  Katie Jordan: We can't move.
• 22:17
  Katie Jordan: And it goes back to like what I was saying about the fear of this part's funny because um the fear of what will other people think?
• 22:31
  Katie Jordan: The fear of, oh my gosh, now I'm doing this by myself.
• 22:38
  Katie Jordan: You know, I had always had this amazing parenting, and I still do, I guess I should reword that co-parenting relationship now with my daughter's father.
• 22:53
  Katie Jordan: And I'm like, but I don't have that now.
• 22:56
  Katie Jordan: When she is with me on Wednesday to Saturdays, she is with me.
• 23:01
  Katie Jordan: It's not like I can say, hey, I'm running to the store.
• 23:06
  Katie Jordan: She can't stay by herself, right?
• 23:09
  Katie Jordan: You know, that fear in the beginning, because there's so many things that come with you, come with it, you know, the financial side.
• 23:17
  Katie Jordan: Am I gonna be able to do this on my own?
• 23:20
  Katie Jordan: Can I, yeah.
• 23:23
  Jennifer Johnson: A lot of realizations.
• 23:25
  Jennifer Johnson: For sure.
• 23:27
  Jennifer Johnson: But then we become fearful if we let them because it's sometimes you look at you know, past things too, and that plays a part into how you're looking forward to the future.
• 23:39
  Jennifer Johnson: Oh my gosh, well, that happened to me in the past, it's gonna happen again.
• 23:44
  Katie Jordan: Um, I think for me, part of that was it goes back to the awareness, knowing that I'm afraid of these things.
• 23:56
  Katie Jordan: And this is I've done a lot of like different releasing things, and I I will never forget in my first apartment, I wrote down all these things, you know.
• 24:09
  Katie Jordan: I had to like break this bond because it's hard when you're letting go of what you thought would be.
• 24:20
  Katie Jordan: So I'm writing all of this stuff down, and I wrote fears in there too.
• 24:25
  Katie Jordan: I am not suggesting to light this paper on fire on your patio in your apartment.
• 24:30
  Katie Jordan: Please don't save your house and burn it down, people.
• 24:33
  Jennifer Johnson: No.
• 24:33
  Jennifer Johnson: Safely, this should only be done by professionals.
• 24:38
  Jennifer Johnson: Yes.
• 24:40
  Katie Jordan: So, but that was such a great way to release and let go.
• 24:45
  Katie Jordan: And you know, there are days, and a lot of days in the beginning, it is just baby steps.
• 24:54
  Katie Jordan: Absolutely, and we all need that person in our life that is going to support us, but.
• 25:02
  Katie Jordan: Also give us the tough love in a way that we understand.
• 25:06
  Jennifer Johnson: Right.
• 25:06
  Jennifer Johnson: So how do you keep that momentum going forward so that you don't fall back on the old beliefs or the old patterns, the old blame game?
• 25:16
  Jennifer Johnson: How do you keep it moving forward?
• 25:19
  Katie Jordan: I had this experience just a few days ago.
• 25:23
  Katie Jordan: I got a text message.
• 25:26
  Katie Jordan: It said something in old me would have been fired up and you know wanting to respond really quick and be like, and I was just like, hmm, no.
• 25:40
  Katie Jordan: That does okay.
• 25:43
  Katie Jordan: Thank you for that information.
• 25:44
  Katie Jordan: And I don't need to respond.
• 25:47
  Jennifer Johnson: Yeah.
• 25:49
  Katie Jordan: So this is where it's really important for surrounding yourself with those people that are where you want to be.
• 25:58
  Katie Jordan: Because they're gonna give you that love and support.
• 26:04
  Katie Jordan: And sometimes, let's be honest, we don't always have all the energy to do all the things, right?
• 26:10
  Katie Jordan: And trusting and listening to yourself.
• 26:14
  Jennifer Johnson: And that is very true.
• 26:18
  Jennifer Johnson: So as we wrap up, what would you tell somebody who's listening today who recognizes that they've been playing the victim, but they don't know how they're gonna break free from the pattern, or perhaps they know of somebody who is playing the victim.
• 26:35
  Jennifer Johnson: What would your advice be to them for that other person if it's not them?
• 26:42
  Katie Jordan: Well, part of that is they have to want to not be the victim anymore.
• 26:50
  Katie Jordan: Because it's just like when you see somebody in a bad relationship, right?
• 26:55
  Katie Jordan: And you can see all the red flags, and we're the ones on the outside, right?
• 26:59
  Katie Jordan: And you're like, don't do it, don't do it.
• 27:03
  Katie Jordan: But when you're in it, you don't always see that, right?
• 27:08
  Katie Jordan: Right.
• 27:09
  Katie Jordan: So it is like getting to that spot, right?
• 27:17
  Katie Jordan: You're like, okay, I am maybe three years post my divorce, but why am I still having these feelings or these thoughts?
• 27:29
  Katie Jordan: And when you stop letting someone else take up the space or the control in your life, you're like, oh, I have some more room.
• 27:38
  Jennifer Johnson: Yes.
• 27:40
  Katie Jordan: I can start to discover the things that I like.
• 27:43
  Katie Jordan: One of my favorite things, and this is the funniest thing ever, because when I was little, we had to take baths all the time.
• 27:52
  Katie Jordan: As an adult, I hated baths.
• 27:56
  Katie Jordan: I don't even know why, but I think maybe it's because I had to take baths as a child, right?
• 28:02
  Katie Jordan: One of the things I discovered within probably that first year is I love a good bubble bath.
• 28:14
  Katie Jordan: You know, isn't that funny when you're like, I used to not like this?
• 28:21
  Katie Jordan: Or you know what?
• 28:22
  Katie Jordan: You can now buy the food you want to eat.
• 28:26
  Katie Jordan: It's a circumstance, you're you're in control of it now, and that's where we have to believe in ourselves and take that control to, you know what?
• 28:39
  Katie Jordan: What do I want my life to look like now?
• 28:41
  Katie Jordan: And allow yourself to dream.
• 28:45
  Jennifer Johnson: Right.
• 28:47
  Katie Jordan: Because I think as women in general, we get so caught up in this.
• 28:53
  Katie Jordan: Society says, oh, you gotta be this way or you gotta be that, and you gotta do things a certain way, right?
• 29:00
  Katie Jordan: Right.
• 29:01
  Katie Jordan: I don't know.
• 29:02
  Katie Jordan: I'm done with society because I'm ready to take my power back and do it how I want to.
• 29:07
  Katie Jordan: You know?
• 29:08
  Jennifer Johnson: That's that's a wonderful message, right?
• 29:11
  Jennifer Johnson: It's a wonderful message, very much so.
• 29:14
  Jennifer Johnson: We're moving into the final four, which is I do this with every guest.
• 29:20
  Jennifer Johnson: It's four final questions, and so excited to hear what your answers are to this.
• 29:26
  Jennifer Johnson: What is your favorite book that you've read and what has made it stick with you?
• 29:31
  Katie Jordan: Okay, so I may have brought some props.
• 29:34
  Katie Jordan: So if you're listening, I'm sorry, you will have to go watch the video.
• 29:42
  Jennifer Johnson: You can listen or watch the video, yes.
• 29:44
  Katie Jordan: Yeah, you'll still get it, but there are two, and one I'm not even done with yet, but I think it's the transformation that this woman has given me out being in her community, and this is gonna make you smile.
• 30:03
  Katie Jordan: So the first one is be sing by Jen.
• 30:08
  Katie Jordan: I knew it was gonna make you um tickle you.
• 30:12
  Katie Jordan: I don't even know.
• 30:14
  Katie Jordan: So she really has been some of the basis for going into speaking and giving me that confidence, and like you guys have said in past podcasts, this is the coffee date, right?
• 30:34
  Katie Jordan: So there is that one that is more of like me personal growth in business side and that, but then there's this one, and this is the mom side because this has been transformational, and it's called the good inside, and it is an amazing book about parenting because if you think about it, our children are born and have no tools with how to cope with the emotions or what they are, how you're supposed to respond, and not in ways that will hurt others, right?
• 31:21
  Katie Jordan: Right, so there have been days that I've opened this book up, and my daughter and I have read some of these things together.
• 31:28
  Katie Jordan: So it's for both of you, yes, and Dr.
• 31:33
  Katie Jordan: Becky has just been an amazing asset in my parenting journey.
• 31:38
  Katie Jordan: Um, so I would say those are two of my favorite books.
• 31:42
  Jennifer Johnson: I know the one, I don't know the other, but I will have to definitely check that out.
• 31:45
  Jennifer Johnson: That is wonderful.
• 31:47
  Jennifer Johnson: Do you have a favorite quote or piece of advice that you find yourself coming back to time and time again?
• 31:56
  Katie Jordan: It it's really, you know, we're all stronger than we think.
• 32:02
  Katie Jordan: We just have to allow ourselves to be that.
• 32:08
  Jennifer Johnson: It's very true.
• 32:09
  Jennifer Johnson: It's true in many things.
• 32:11
  Katie Jordan: Right?
• 32:11
  Katie Jordan: Because when you're in the middle of something, yeah, I don't know.
• 32:15
  Katie Jordan: When I was going through, you know, losing grandma, losing my dad, losing my sister, losing my marriage, like in the middle of it, you know, I wrote my sister's eulogy.
• 32:29
  Katie Jordan: And it's very interesting, like we talked through about when other people say things like, I never could have done that.
• 32:42
  Katie Jordan: Yeah.
• 32:43
  Katie Jordan: And I'm thinking I wouldn't have had it any other way, you know?
• 32:48
  Katie Jordan: What a way to honor her, you know.
• 32:51
  Jennifer Johnson: That's how I would see it.
• 32:52
  Jennifer Johnson: But others would be like what you said.
• 32:55
  Jennifer Johnson: Exactly.
• 32:57
  Jennifer Johnson: So what is one habit or practice that has genuinely changed your life andor your business?
• 33:10
  Katie Jordan: I don't know.
• 33:11
  Katie Jordan: And I thought I was ready, right?
• 33:15
  Katie Jordan: Um, I really think part of it is in parent in my parenting, right?
• 33:28
  Katie Jordan: And that is not reacting in the moment.
• 33:33
  Katie Jordan: Taking a step back and saying, okay, what is she trying to tell me with this?
• 33:42
  Katie Jordan: And you guys, I'm so amazingly blessed because my daughter is so emotionally intelligent.
• 33:50
  Katie Jordan: Like now she can tell me most of the time, like, mom, I was not happy, and that was because of you know, X, Y, and Z or whatever.
• 34:03
  Katie Jordan: And I was just like, okay.
• 34:05
  Katie Jordan: Wow.
• 34:06
  Katie Jordan: You know, yeah, she's very wise beyond her years.
• 34:13
  Jennifer Johnson: Wow.
• 34:14
  Jennifer Johnson: That emotional intelligence is a huge piece to a lot of things.
• 34:19
  Jennifer Johnson: That is that is certain.
• 34:22
  Jennifer Johnson: If you could have dinner with anyone, who would it be and why?
• 34:29
  Katie Jordan: I this is has been for a while.
• 34:33
  Katie Jordan: Okay, so it's so funny how it just seems not even coincidental, but I would have dinner with pink.
• 34:43
  Jennifer Johnson: Oh, that's random.
• 34:45
  Jennifer Johnson: I love that.
• 34:45
  Jennifer Johnson: I love pink.
• 34:47
  Katie Jordan: I mean, not just I well, and I thought, oh my gosh, this is fun for not only the podcast, but just in general.
• 34:56
  Jennifer Johnson: I've never had anyone ever mention her.
• 34:58
  Jennifer Johnson: That is why.
• 35:00
  Katie Jordan: And the reason for this is she is such an amazing role model, role model for so many people across all different walks of life.
• 35:15
  Katie Jordan: And she, oh, I'm getting chills.
• 35:18
  Katie Jordan: She empowers people to embrace who they truly are and live authentically.
• 35:26
  Katie Jordan: And I'm just like, I would just like to hang out with her, you know.
• 35:35
  Katie Jordan: I watched the I watched her documentary and just the way she treats her crew and bringing her family along on tour, and it's just amazing because then her kids don't know anything but kindness.
• 35:51
  Katie Jordan: And I think we all could use a little more kindness.
• 35:57
  Katie Jordan: Yeah.
• 35:58
  Jennifer Johnson: I think pink was a good choice.
• 36:00
  Jennifer Johnson: I do.
• 36:02
  Jennifer Johnson: Thank you so much, Katie, for joining me on my podcast today.
• 36:07
  Jennifer Johnson: Lots of great little nuggets for our listeners.
• 36:10
  Jennifer Johnson: If our audience wants to get a hold of your book or reach out to you, how can they do so?
• 36:17
  Katie Jordan: So the book, Startup Start Over Just Start, is on Amazon.
• 36:22
  Katie Jordan: Um, I still have some copies too.
• 36:26
  Katie Jordan: You know how that is when you it's like you always have this little stash.
• 36:30
  Katie Jordan: Um and to get in contact with me on oh my gosh, you know how that when you just sometimes forget words.
• 36:42
  Katie Jordan: That's what happened.
• 36:43
  Katie Jordan: Instagram is at butterfly tribe blueprint.
• 36:46
  Katie Jordan: Um Facebook is just Katie Kune Jordan, and that is where the community of Butterfly Tribe Blueprint lives.
• 36:57
  Katie Jordan: Is it's uh um it is a Facebook group where women are at and come and help each other and support each other as well.
• 37:07
  Jennifer Johnson: Fabulous.
• 37:08
  Jennifer Johnson: Thank you again so much, Katie, and thank you to all of my guests.
• 37:12
  Jennifer Johnson: Thank you.