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How to fly into the LAA Rally - The Flyer Show 14 August 25 · Flyer Magazine

• 0:01
  SPEAKER_04: Four, three, two, one.
• 0:04
  SPEAKER_04: Hello, and welcome to tonight's show from our brand new studio.
• 0:07
  SPEAKER_04: It's work in progress, but we're pretty excited.
• 0:09
  SPEAKER_04: Later on, we'll be talking about how to fly into the LAA rally at the end of the month.
• 0:13
  SPEAKER_03: We're having fewer accidents, but I'll be flying less.
• 0:16
  SPEAKER_05: It's goodbye, Reno.
• 0:17
  SPEAKER_05: Hello, Roswell, for the National Championship Air Races.
• 0:20
  SPEAKER_03: There's a new operator for Sutherland Airport.
• 0:22
  SPEAKER_04: And the pilot who flew into Antarctica without permission was released.
• 0:26
  SPEAKER_04: All this and more coming up tonight.
• 0:28
  SPEAKER_04: As of a huge thanks to our sponsor, Sky Demon, who once again have sponsored this video.
• 0:32
  SPEAKER_04: Thank you very much to them.
• 0:33
  SPEAKER_04: Here is this week's top tip from Rob.
• 0:39
  SPEAKER_01: Hi, I'm Rob from Sky Demon, and here's another top tip.
• 0:44
  SPEAKER_01: Sky Demon includes a few tools to help with your vertical planning.
• 0:47
  SPEAKER_01: It will always calculate the minimum safe altitude for each leg of a planned flight, and these are shown in the pilot's log.
• 0:55
  SPEAKER_01: If any of your legs breach the MSA, they are highlighted in red here and in the virtual radar too.
• 1:04
  SPEAKER_01: You can manually adjust the planned level by simply dragging it up with your finger, but you can also find a warning in the warnings tab, and touching the spanner here will change the planned altitude to the MSA.
• 1:20
  SPEAKER_01: One way to be even more proactive about safe altitudes is to turn on grid maximum elevations.
• 1:28
  SPEAKER_01: These are found within the mapping menu under terrain and surface features.
• 1:35
  SPEAKER_01: These numbers are shown in the bottom right hand corner of each grid square of the map and show the maximum elevation of either terrain or obstacle within that grid square.
• 1:46
  SPEAKER_01: Also, in this menu, we can switch on colour high terrain.
• 1:51
  SPEAKER_01: This asks for a reference altitude, and you should enter here the level at which you think you might fly.
• 1:58
  SPEAKER_01: Sky Demon will then colour the map according to the key you see here so that you can clearly see the regions which are flyable at that level and those that are not.
• 2:08
  SPEAKER_01: As you can probably imagine, this feature is very valuable when planning in mountainous regions to identify the flyable valleys at a glance.
• 2:18
  SPEAKER_01: For more information, check out our website www.skydemon.ero.
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  SPEAKER_05: Well.
• 2:29
  SPEAKER_05: Well, two things: grid maximum elevation.
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_05: Fantastic.
• 2:33
  SPEAKER_05: And spanners in Sky Demon.
• 2:36
  SPEAKER_04: Spanners that automatically adjust to the MSA.
• 2:38
  SPEAKER_04: That's a really good one, actually.
• 2:40
  SPEAKER_04: It's a good one.
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  SPEAKER_04: That's a brand new tip.
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_05: So lots of great stuff there for you.
• 2:43
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, is anyone flying this weekend?
• 2:46
  SPEAKER_05: Let's find out what the Weather Wizard has in store for us.
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  SPEAKER_02: Hi everyone, Simon Keeling here with your flying weather outlook for the weekend and weekend, which exclusively by Flyer in association with weatherschool.co.uk.
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  SPEAKER_02: Thanks again for watching.
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  SPEAKER_02: Just a quick weekend forecast for you this week onto Friday, high pressure in control, centred out towards the west of Ireland.
• 3:09
  SPEAKER_02: Week Goldfront moves down through eastern Scotland, and this is going to be bringing marginal conditions here.
• 3:15
  SPEAKER_02: Quite a bit of cloud around, and basically probably around 1,000 to 2,000 feet, tops of around 10,000 feet.
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  SPEAKER_02: Elsewhere, decent yesterday cloud around particularly in the east, but we'll break cloud for the west.
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  SPEAKER_02: And the crossing customer on the new and three can be fun and booty from three times in three five times in free eight thousand free.
• 4:44
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe even a thirty-not in the floor tonight west, and just marginal conditions for the west with some haze and those thundry outbreaks of rain coming through.
• 4:54
  SPEAKER_02: But as I say, for most of us it looks reasonable.
• 4:57
  SPEAKER_02: So certainly conditions to be watching the forecast very carefully, particularly late in the weekend and into next week.
• 5:03
  SPEAKER_02: We update every day across at weatherweb.net.
• 5:07
  SPEAKER_02: And the first forecast you'll see on there is effectively this forecast updated every day.
• 5:12
  SPEAKER_02: Don't forget to book your place at Aviation Weather School for my next Aviation Weather School Part 1 course presented entirely live by me on the Tuesday evenings of the 2nd and the 9th of September between 6:30pm and 9pm.
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  SPEAKER_02: We've got a couple of places remaining on the course, so if you want to book your place there, uh do get in there and uh book your place as soon as you possibly can.
• 5:34
  SPEAKER_02: I'll show you how you can uh better predict the weather yourself.
• 5:38
  SPEAKER_02: You can spot Weather Windows five days in advance, and we'll get you understanding flying weather at last, and we'll take the mystery out of it.
• 5:46
  SPEAKER_02: And it's just a fun course to do.
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay, I'll leave you with that for now.
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  SPEAKER_02: Have a great, have a safe flying weekend.
• 5:52
  SPEAKER_02: Thanks again for watching.
• 5:53
  SPEAKER_02: Keep the sun shining, and bye for now.
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  SPEAKER_04: I think on that basis, I definitely plan to go flying.
• 5:58
  SPEAKER_04: I think there's definitely some flying to be done there.
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  SPEAKER_04: So here are our top tips for flying into the LAA ready.
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  SPEAKER_04: Clearly, it's one of the main events of the year.
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  SPEAKER_04: So with perhaps upwards of 500 aircraft, who knows, could be 700 aircraft flying in, you've got to keep your eyes peeled, and there are special procedures.
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  SPEAKER_04: So go to the LAA website and look at the special procedures, read them, become super familiar with them.
• 6:17
  SPEAKER_04: You do have to put yourself a slot which is via Eventbrite, gonna cost you£11.50.
• 6:22
  SPEAKER_04: You can cancel three days ahead and get a refund if you like, depending on the weather.
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  SPEAKER_04: So let's take a look at it on the map.
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  SPEAKER_04: So at the moment, this is set to an arrival for a runway 2.8, and it's this one's from the south.
• 6:34
  SPEAKER_04: So the the southern initial entry point, if you like, into the procedure is Market Harbor, um, and the northern entry point into the procedure is Melton Mowbray disused airfield up there.
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  SPEAKER_04: Both of those route towards the arrival area.
• 6:48
  SPEAKER_04: I actually went into Sky Demon and set a specific user waypoint, which I've called arrival area one.
• 6:54
  SPEAKER_04: Not that confusing as you can see.
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  SPEAKER_04: Umce you get to arrival area one, you turn left till you get to the final approach fix for 2.8, which takes you uh into the sort of corner of the ATZ, and at which point you can descend below 1500 feet QFE.
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  SPEAKER_04: They don't want you below 1500 feet QFE until you're in the ATZ.
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  SPEAKER_04: There's actually a radio call.
• 7:16
  SPEAKER_04: Let me just get some more information up.
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  SPEAKER_04: So when you're at five minutes from arrival area one, make a call on Leicester Radio, which is frequency 122 decimal one three zero, just with your call sign, inbound, current position, and altitude.
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  SPEAKER_04: You won't get a reply.
• 7:30
  SPEAKER_04: And the airfield data will be transmitted regularly on that frequency one two one three zero.
• 7:36
  SPEAKER_04: So if you listen in, you're going to figure out which runway they're on and what's happening.
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  SPEAKER_04: Join the arrival area at 1500 feet on the Leicester QFE.
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  SPEAKER_04: Um, and Leicester, if you're interested, is at which you will be, is at 469 feet above sea level.
• 7:51
  SPEAKER_04: Um if you're arriving from the south, Market Harbor, as I said, from the north, it's Melton Mowbray.
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  SPEAKER_04: So once you get to the arrivals area, you route towards runway 2.8 to the final approach fix.
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  SPEAKER_04: Again, I've created a waypoint in Sky Demon, super easy to do.
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  SPEAKER_04: Watch one of the tips if you need to know how to do that.
• 8:08
  SPEAKER_04: That's runway 2.8 final approach fix, which is basically going to put you on final for 2-8.
• 8:12
  SPEAKER_04: Now there are two runways.
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  SPEAKER_04: There's the hard runway and there's the grass runway.
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  SPEAKER_04: There's no threshold markings on the grass runway, and the parallel approaches are not permitted.
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  SPEAKER_04: So you can't have both runways at any one time.
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  SPEAKER_04: You've got to take your choice and land on one of them.
• 8:25
  SPEAKER_04: So when you're on the way in, um, you'll make a call when you're established on final.
• 8:30
  SPEAKER_04: So again, call sign, final, two eight, hard or grass, as is your wish.
• 8:34
  SPEAKER_04: And in reply, you'll probably only get the surface wind.
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  SPEAKER_04: You won't get anything else.
• 8:38
  SPEAKER_04: Land if you're on 2.8 and if you can't safely vacate by the intersection, then do so and follow the marshals.
• 8:45
  SPEAKER_04: But don't forget, if you're gonna do that, there could well be someone behind you who's landed on the grass after you who's doing the same thing.
• 8:51
  SPEAKER_04: Oh yeah.
• 8:51
  SPEAKER_04: So keep a good eye out for that.
• 8:53
  SPEAKER_04: Um, basically the the watchword for the whole thing is keep a good eye out all the time, uh in the air, on the ground, whatever.
• 9:01
  SPEAKER_04: If you're gonna, I'm just gonna change this map.
• 9:06
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, my little simulator's heading off to the left.
• 9:08
  SPEAKER_04: It'll probably uh come back on track, airplane.
• 9:11
  SPEAKER_03: So you've created waypoints for the other runway as well.
• 9:15
  SPEAKER_04: So there you go.
• 9:15
  SPEAKER_04: Uh if you if you look at this win now, uh we've listened to the radio, uh Leicester Radio, and we've decided they've they've told us that we're on one zero.
• 9:23
  SPEAKER_04: So we're again always routing via arrival area one from the south Market Harbor, from the north Milton Mowbray disused.
• 9:30
  SPEAKER_04: Although this time we're not going to the final approach fix for two eight, because that would make you definitely unpopular.
• 9:34
  SPEAKER_04: We're gonna route to a point just on the um Leicester ATZ.
• 9:39
  SPEAKER_04: It effectively takes you on a downwind into runway one zero.
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_04: At that point, you're gonna turn left base to the uh runway one zero final approach fix and make your call, and then you're gonna land on one zero.
• 9:51
  SPEAKER_04: Again, harden grass, again.
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  SPEAKER_04: 1-0 you're gonna want to roll to the end.
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_04: There's no um no point in jumping off at the intersection, uh, apart from the fact that it's tough, it's gonna put you in the wrong position and delay everybody else.
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_04: So roll to the end, uh, vacate the runway, beware that there's no one coming up behind you on the grass, and follow the marshalers to parking.
• 10:12
  SPEAKER_04: And that's basically it.
• 10:13
  SPEAKER_04: So there's two calls to make, lots of looking out to do, um, and it should all go smoothly.
• 10:19
  SPEAKER_04: If it doesn't and the runway's occupied, and you're on two eight, then cool, going around, join the right hand circuit, uh, right hand downwind and join in.
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_04: If it's busy, you may need to route back to arrival area one to rejoin the stream if you like.
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_04: And again, if you're on runway 10 and you need to go around, then go around and join the left hand circuit and then come around for another another go.
• 10:42
  SPEAKER_04: And again, if it's really busy, you may need to go to arrival area one and join the stream again from there.
• 10:47
  SPEAKER_04: So it's all pretty simple.
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_04: There are some departure instructions, but you can get a brief on the ground and you can just read those.
• 10:53
  SPEAKER_04: They're fairly straightforward.
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_04: Um, but that's it.
• 10:55
  SPEAKER_04: It's pretty pretty straightforward compared to some of the stuff we've had in the past.
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_05: And it does.
• 11:00
  SPEAKER_05: People that with big events, flying into big events sometimes, people get really stressed out about it and they think it's gonna be chaos.
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  SPEAKER_05: Last year the Leicester rally ran brilliantly.
• 11:11
  SPEAKER_05: Leicester did a fantastic job, the marshallers, and with the the the instructions, I think they've everyone really got it.
• 11:18
  SPEAKER_05: And uh, like you say, if you're prepared, go along and just fly sensibly, fly to the points, uh, and then once you're on the ground, follow the instructions.
• 11:27
  SPEAKER_05: You can fly into the rally and have a great time.
• 11:30
  SPEAKER_04: So look forward to seeing you on the ground there.
• 11:31
  SPEAKER_04: Stay safe, keep a good look out, and we'll see you there.
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_03: In 2024, we have a reasonable year as far as accidents are concerned.
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_03: The CEA safety reviews just come out, and in that it identifies the fact that we had a total of 158 accidents and serious incidents, well below the 10-year average of 202 a year.
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_03: The vast majority of those accidents, 83%, involved no injuries at all.
• 11:56
  SPEAKER_03: Fatal accidents are also down, with eight accidents causing nine deaths compared to a long-term average of 14.
• 12:03
  SPEAKER_03: So it's all heading in the right way, except for one statistic.
• 12:06
  SPEAKER_04: The hours flown is decreasing, and that's a trend that's continuing.
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and apparently in 2024, there were about 10,600 UK registered GA aircraft, which reported close to 600,000 hours.
• 12:19
  SPEAKER_03: That's quite a healthy amount, but it is a gradual drift down over the years.
• 12:23
  SPEAKER_04: I think the worry with that is a lot of it will be driven by the commercial training and the PPL training that are putting a lot of hours onto airframes as opposed to some of the private flying where hours are being reduced.
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_03: It's not clear to me if that includes all types of GA flying.
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, are is anything does it just include stuff with a transponder?
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_03: Is it does it include micro lights or flip or flights from private strips?
• 12:45
  SPEAKER_04: I think the data's collect- I mean, there are different places to collect the data.
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_04: There's things like ARCs and stuff like that where you can collect the data.
• 12:51
  SPEAKER_04: There's also a lot of the time you're reporting hours flown when when you're when you do your medical.
• 12:56
  SPEAKER_04: But on the other hand, there's a hell of a lot of people with PMDs now.
• 12:59
  SPEAKER_04: Plus, of course, it doesn't really take into account group aircraft.
• 13:02
  SPEAKER_04: So one aircraft that does a hundred hours a year could be a hundred hours a year split between five group members or split between twenty group members.
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 13:11
  SPEAKER_04: And I guess one of those might be doing the lion's share of the hours.
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_04: Absolutely.
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_04: But I mean as as a big overall measure is that the fact is the hours are slowly decreasing, and that's something that for the health of general aviation in the long term, we need to re-increase.
• 13:25
  SPEAKER_03: How do you think we go about that?
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_04: I think the trouble is when you try and figure out which levers to pull, you've you at the moment you've got a hell of a lot of stuff against you.
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_04: You've got the complexity of regulation.
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_04: We often talk to people who say, I just can't keep up with what's going on.
• 13:37
  SPEAKER_04: And we're doing our best to try and kind of inform people, but there's just this tsunami of stuff coming along all the time that you need to stay ahead of.
• 13:43
  SPEAKER_04: Plus the costs.
• 13:45
  SPEAKER_04: Things are not getting cheaper.
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_04: It's try and buy some paths for some aircraft if you need the maintenance.
• 13:49
  SPEAKER_04: It is really expensive at times.
• 13:51
  SPEAKER_05: And I guess people I I know people who have stopped flying because of the cost of living.
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_05: You know, you have to make some decisions, and actually living is a fairly critical cost.
• 14:01
  SPEAKER_05: Going flying, more of a luxury.
• 14:03
  SPEAKER_04: So Yeah, and as the pilot population ages, you have things like the Civil Aviation Authority who've bought in this suggestion about people over a certain age.
• 14:11
  SPEAKER_04: They run some they run some kind of like mathematical system, Cubisk and things cool, where they decide what the likelihood of you of having a coronary event in the next ten years.
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_04: Which and it wasn't designed for that, to be honest.
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_04: This is quite a bit of a bit of a scandal, uh in my t in my eyes at least.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_04: And it's people are going, okay, well, your your AME says you need to go do a stress ECG, and that could cost you anywhere from 500 quid to a couple of thousand pounds.
• 14:33
  SPEAKER_04: If you've got to do that every year or every two years, you're not really I know people who've given up flying because of the city.
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_04: Because of that.
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 14:40
  SPEAKER_03: You're right about it being a bit of a scandal because the CA usually consults over everything.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_03: They're so concerned about transparency.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_03: Although generally they go ahead and do what they wanted to do anyway.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_03: But in this case, this little bit thing about uh anyone going for a class two with a Q risk score, say ten, um, that's just been sidled in.
• 14:59
  SPEAKER_03: That's somebody in the chief medical officer's department has decided we're going to make that a thing.
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_03: Maybe we should get the chief medical officer on here.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_03: We should.
• 15:09
  SPEAKER_03: And just open it up to to Reed's questions.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_04: I can I can see the corporate waffle coming back from the questions that we ask.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_03: But if we're here in front of him, we can cut through the waffle.
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_05: Uh so next, uh, it's goodbye uh Reno.
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_05: Uh hello, Roswell.
• 15:26
  SPEAKER_05: The National Championship air races in September are uh moving to Roswell, New Mexico.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_05: It's causing a bit of a causing a bit of a stir really because a lot of people are saying, Roswell, it's in the middle of nowhere.
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_05: There's no hotels, um not much ground support, whereas Reno was in the middle of hotel hotel city.
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_05: In the middle of a failing town.
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_04: Failing city.
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_04: It felt like you were staying in a hotel in 1983.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so the organizers recently I saw something online.
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_05: The organizers of the air races are saying, fly in every day, which is a bit of a thing of going, and they're saying, stay s stay in the surrounding area and fly in every day, which is a bit of a bit of a way of going, there's no accommodation here.
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_05: Um so uh that's all very exciting.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_05: But uh you wonder how that's gonna pan out.
• 16:15
  SPEAKER_05: There's a lot of talk of a run on RV rental.
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_05: So um yeah, it could could work out.
• 16:21
  SPEAKER_05: But it's gonna be so it's uh they're promising all the normal things, unlimited, T6 racing, uh Formula One, sport class, though I have heard rumors that there's gonna be no sport class and no unlimited.
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, that's no sport class is confirmed, in fact.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, right.
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_05: Well that's really I think that's really bad news because I think the sport class.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_04: It was yeah, it was the new unlimited.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, there was only a few there was a smaller number of good old boys who had huge stacks of cash that they were burning their way through for the um, yeah.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_05: I you you and I went to Reno in twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen, I think.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_05: And it was it f it sadly felt a bit like unlimited were dying even then, it did.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_05: Um and I guess that's just because the budgets were gone, just the egos remained.
• 17:05
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_05: I think that's the case.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_05: So um I think a tough mountain to climb for the Championship Air Race is this year.
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_03: Or a desert to cross.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_04: It's like the other thing, when we when we went, I the the early days when there were the qualifying heats and all that stuff going on, there wasn't a massive atmosphere.
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_04: The bleachers were pretty much empty and they were people came for the end bit.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_04: So really, I'm not sure how many people are going to want to fly in every day while that's going on.
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_04: You might fly in once and go, hmm, that was an expensive hot dog.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_04: Um and and then put it off to the end.
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, uh there was a rumour that because it's organized by the Reno Air Racing Association.
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_04: Obviously, you can't call it the Reno Air Racing Association.
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_04: So it was a rumour that Ra Ra was in Roswell just so you didn't have to change the logo because it was rah-rah.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_03: But that's probably not true, but do you know I think it's also because the Sport Class Association, even America Associations for Everything, but the Sport Class Association has kind of gone off and done its own thing to some extent.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_03: It's broadened the eligibility of what aircraft can take part in, take part in it.
• 18:07
  SPEAKER_03: And crucially, it's gone off and I guess because they weren't sure that Reno Air Races were going to move successfully, they've gone off and done their own thing.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_03: And they've got a big event in a place called Les Cruces.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, Las Cruces in Mexico.
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_03: Anyway, Las Cruces.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_05: But uh yeah, so 10th to the 14th of September for uh the new National Championship 10th to the 14th, I've got.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_05: Sorry, sorry.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_04: 10th to the 14th.
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_05: It's confirmed.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_05: You heard it here.
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_05: That's it.
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_05: For uh for the new national championship air races.
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_05: Um yeah, how how it will go, I don't know.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_05: But um I'd say, to be honest, the um the sport class guys, that's probably where air racing, the high the high adrenaline air racing, I think, is going in the US.
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, well, next story is about Solent Airport, where there is a new operator uh taking over from next April.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_03: Um it's a new company, it's it's taking over the uh the the uh operation, and it's uh called EGHF Limited, which is Solent's uh course I've got our co code.
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_03: Um is led by uh Matt Wilkins, who currently runs uh uh Old Buckingham.
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_03: Old Buckenham, that's the one.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_03: He runs Old Buckingham and he's also chairman of the General Aviation Awareness Council.
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_03: Busy chat, gets around, does a lot of things.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_03: We don't know much more than that at the moment, other than that he's taking over, or rather EGHF Limited is taking over, because uh regional and city airports, which is part of the Rigby Group, um they're they're giving up the uh the operational lease or uh technical, whatever you call it.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_03: And um partly that's down to the fact that they are the Rigby Group has sold out part of its company to a big investment group.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, ICG, I think it's ICG, yeah.
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_03: Bournemouth, Exeter, and Norwich Airports are part of that deal.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_03: Uh I guess uh Solent Airport doesn't really come into the same kind of category.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_04: I guess some people at ICG looked at it and went, okay, Bournemouth good, Norwich Good, ExeterGird, why are we running Solent?
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, but we don't even own it, just a yeah, and probably deciding not to do it.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_04: So anyway, let us know what you think about uh about Solent's change and what happens.
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_04: Excuse me.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_04: Sorry, my friend goes silent.
• 20:22
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• 20:24
  SPEAKER_04: I don't know what the message is, but I've made it go away.
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_03: Antarctica.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_04: Antarctica.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_04: So uh if you've been following the story, there's a young, and I mean young, I think 17 or 18 or something, maybe at the moment, Ethan Guau, an influencer known as, who's obviously a pretty hot pilot.
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_04: So he's PPL, CPL, IR, and he's been flying his 182 around the world in order to raise money for a cancer charity.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_04: Um anyway, he was in Punta Arenas in uh South Chile, which is where a lot of the Antarctic expeditions depart from.
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_04: He filed a flight plan to go somewhere else, Ushware, I think it was, but not to go to Antarctica, and then decided to fly to Antarctica.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_04: Antarctica is one of those places where basically you can't get permission to fly to, it's just not open for private aviation.
• 21:04
  SPEAKER_04: Um and so he flew there, landed, and that didn't go down that well.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_04: So he was arrested, he was put in, I don't know if he was put in prison, but he he was being held in Antarctica.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_04: And we heard yesterday charges have been dropped and he's been released.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_04: He's got to pay something like thirty thousand dollars to a a cancer charity.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_04: Yep.
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_04: I'm not sure how he's gonna get his 182 back, because they won't want to leave that in Antarctica.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_04: Uh he's been told not to return to Chile for is it three years or something?
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_04: Um so also so a lot of people frowning in Spanish.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_05: Well, it's and flying, like you say, uh Antarctica is a protected area.
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_05: Permission to go there is very rarely granted, and for good reason, because it takes a lot of effort to support the people who are there.
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_05: So pretty reckless of him to decide to do that.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_05: And also, he file you know, f to file a flight plan and then go, I'll change it on the hoof.
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_05: Pretty dumbass, really.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_05: So He's just nineteen.
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_03: At nineteen, I was pretty stupid.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_04: I was pretty stupid at nineteen as well.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_04: Were you, or were you very sensible?
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_04: No, I was incredibly sensible.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_04: Sensible and very dull.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_04: You're learning lots of airplane facts.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_04: So anyway, so uh hopefully, well, I'm sure if we if we check out his Instagram uh post, we'll see what he has to say about it.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_05: And I guess maybe there's a 182 that will be eBay salvage.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_05: Come and collect it.
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_05: Buy a collect.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_05: No, buy a collect.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_04: You can have the entire airplane for 50 pence.
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_05: Yes.
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_05: Unfortunately, recovering it will cost you half a million dollars.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_04: Because at the moment, everything that goes to Antarctica gets shipped back from Antarctica.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_05: And I'm guessing there's probably no Avgas there?
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_05: I do well good question.
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_05: I'd be very surprised.
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_05: I'd be very surprised.
• 22:46
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• 24:24
  SPEAKER_05: Uh so the big question, obviously, of the week is what caught your eye?
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_03: Ah, but it's me going first this week, and my memory was jogged by Facebook of all things.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_03: We apparently 10 years ago this week, I was flying a STEMI S6 and S10, the two motor gliders, um, from Poe.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_03: Uh and we were flying all over the Pyrenees.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and we even flew into San Sebastian Sebastian, which Tapas City.
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_03: Tapas City.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_03: It's absolutely fabulous, San Sebastian, really worth flying in.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_03: The airfield is really easy to go into.
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_03: It's a proper airport, but the GAs worked very welcome there, very easy.
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_03: And San Sebastian, I'll go back there like a shot.
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_03: But also the Pyrenees.
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_03: It was in July, so summer, obviously.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_03: And uh there was still a bit of snow on certain peaks, but obviously most of it was was green by now.
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_03: Uh it's just fabulous, the Pyrenees.
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_03: I used to live there, so I didn't know it very well.
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_03: And but it's so it's so uncommercial compared to say the Alps.
• 25:23
  SPEAKER_03: Um do you pine for that time?
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_03: I do.
• 25:27
  SPEAKER_03: I do pine for those those years in France.
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I think you got you I think you actually managed to somehow swing yourself two STEM tests, two STEM weeks, didn't you?
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I I drew all the hard all the difficult uh jobs, and I had to go to Venice, uh to uh the Lido uh airfield, uh where we flew the STEM A S10 and also the S-12, which is the new one then.
• 25:47
  SPEAKER_03: Um and we flew it out of Venice.
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_03: I could tell you, doing a circuit of Venice Lido airfield, and you're flying with Venice over on your your your starboard side, it's just fabulous.
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know how we can still do that.
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_05: But there was I remember there was a really um because it was an article in the Mag and there was a really great shot of Venice in the of the motor gliders, and I think there might have been a cruise ship in the harbour and and and just yeah, it does yeah, that was it was, and we flew from from Venice.
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_03: We've obviously it's a motor glider, so you go where you're going looking for some lift, and it's just up the coast into the Italian Dolomite uh mountains.
• 26:25
  SPEAKER_03: Um again, flying around the mountains.
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_03: The S12 is the most sophisticated and the newest one of the STEME range.
• 26:31
  SPEAKER_03: In fact, it's the only one that STEMA produced now.
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, yeah.
• 26:34
  SPEAKER_05: Um I wonder I wonder how many they've sold, because it's not exactly something you see around a lot, is it?
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_04: Well, I think that they're positioned at the at the higher end of the higher of the high end, aren't they?
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_04: They go, here's this high end niche, we're gonna occupy a little niche on top of it.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_04: They are fantastic airplanes with amazing performance.
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 26:52
  SPEAKER_04: But they they they are not bargain baseman.
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_05: So Ed, what caught your eye?
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_05: Uh well, um kind of off the bat off the back of the uh Goodyear blimp video, which is raging away at the moment, uh, you should watch it if you haven't seen it.
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_05: Absolutely.
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_05: Um, is uh the fact that I found out that Goodyear made some other aeroplanes.
• 27:11
  SPEAKER_05: Uh in particular, um something called the Grumman Duck.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_05: Sorry, the Grumman, it's very easy to do Grumman.
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_05: Uh the Goodyear Duck and the Goodyear Drake.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_05: Uh and I found out about this because I saw a post from the Military Aviation Preservation Society uh on Facebook, uh, and they have the last surviving Drake, and they've just had a donation of three Grumman uh three Grumman ducks.
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_05: Three Goodyear ducks.
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_05: Uh and you might be wondering, what the hell are these?
• 27:38
  SPEAKER_05: Have you heard of any of them?
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_05: Exactly, yeah.
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_05: Well they kind of look like if you've seen uh lake amphibians or um like the colonial skimmer or things like that, they look a bit like that, and there was clearly a vein of uh seaplane design in the 40s and 50s where a lot of things looked the same.
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_05: Uh but the Goodyear duck, yeah, got it right this time, uh, was three seats, um it was uh sh high wing, uh in a motor mounted on the top, uh, and Goodyear made uh I think they made around about 20 of these.
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_05: Um not very popular.
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_05: Uh and then they followed it.
• 28:13
  SPEAKER_05: Uh that was in in 46, uh no, in uh in 44 I think they started that.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_05: And then in uh I think later in f in the 40s, certainly 1950, they made this aeroplane called the Drake, which was bigger, four seats, bigger engine.
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_05: Uh and that looks, for all intents and purposes, a bit like um uh a lake amphibian or a lake renegade.
• 28:34
  SPEAKER_05: Um but I just think it looks it looks fantastic.
• 28:37
  SPEAKER_04: I mean I guess the dock didn't really work because the timing was a bit off really.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_04: It's like there's a war going on.
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_04: They go, Would you like to buy a three-seat personal amphibian?
• 28:44
  SPEAKER_04: You know what?
• 28:45
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, we'll just wait for this war thing to pass.
• 28:48
  SPEAKER_05: Uh but yeah, I I knew that I Goodyear made uh and we've talked about it in the past, the inflato plane, because obviously they had experience in rubberized fabrics, uh, and they made this aeroplane you could deliver to the battlefield and inflate.
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, but yeah, uh inflate and fly away.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_05: Had a bit of a had some issues because it tended sometimes to change shape during flight, which would be quite exciting.
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_05: Um but I think uh I I'm really sad that Goodyear didn't didn't have success, because these are fantastic looking amphibians.
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_05: I'm amazed that Well I I'm not amazed I'd never heard of it, but I'm amazed that all of a sudden someone went, Oh, do you want three of them?
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_05: Well, apparently um so someone approached the museum and said, um uh our family, it's I'd like a family member had three uh they were in use as chicken coops.
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, if you want to go and see these fantastic Goodyear amphibians, you go to uh the Maps Museum in Ohio and they've got a they have the only remaining Goodyear Drake which is restored and on display, and they're hoping to restore one of their ducks to perfection as well.
• 29:48
  SPEAKER_04: So hopefully it would be great if they restored one to flying ducks, wouldn't it?
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_05: I don't th I don't think that's gonna happen, sadly.
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_05: But that that would be one of those things that you would take to Oshkosh and people would be like, uh Yeah, exactly.
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_04: Well maybe you never know.
• 30:01
  SPEAKER_03: Tell me it was powered by a giant rubber band.
• 30:04
  SPEAKER_05: That would be that would be great.
• 30:06
  SPEAKER_04: I never realized at the beginning when you started, I never knew that Goodyear did bath toys.
• 30:10
  SPEAKER_04: I know.
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 30:12
  SPEAKER_04: So what did you find here?
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_04: Well I was going down a bit of a rabbit hole with looking at some Slingsby stuff for some for some other reason.
• 30:21
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 30:21
  SPEAKER_04: Um and then discovered that there was this thing called a Bain's bat.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_04: I think in 1941 or something.
• 30:28
  SPEAKER_04: So clearly a war was on, didn't really apply to Goodyear because they were busy making their amphibians.
• 30:33
  SPEAKER_04: Um but this Bain's bat, they kind of how do we get tanks to the battlefield more effectively?
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_04: So let's find a tank and stick a set of wings on it, tow it in, let it glide down, take the wings off, we've got a tank.
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_04: So this thing's kind of got like swept wings, a hundred-foot wingspan.
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_04: Clearly, I guess you've got to lift a fair chunk of tank.
• 30:52
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 30:53
  SPEAKER_04: No, it's a tailoress design, so you've got tails, if you like, at the end of it, a bit like a delta, but not really a delta.
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_04: Um and they they Slingsby actually built a third scale model and sent it off to the wind tunnels, where apparently it did pretty well.
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_04: And the only problem was there were no really suitable tanks that anyone could come up with for them to build a full-scale model, and it kind of just got by the way.
• 31:13
  SPEAKER_05: I'm guessing no one got the memo to make a lightweight tank.
• 31:17
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, could you imagine that?
• 31:18
  SPEAKER_04: The good news is you're in a tank.
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_04: The bad news is it's had to be really light.
• 31:22
  SPEAKER_05: It's made from yeah, it looks like metal guys, but actually it's tinfoil.
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_04: So I thought that was, you know.
• 31:29
  SPEAKER_04: People did some funky stuff during the war.
• 31:31
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 31:31
  SPEAKER_05: And well, two things.
• 31:33
  SPEAKER_05: The bat I think the Baines bat um actually so they that carried on flying as a glider and survived until I think 1958.
• 31:40
  SPEAKER_05: It was round the back of a hangar at Lasham when it was last seen.
• 31:44
  SPEAKER_05: The little one-third scale demonstrator survived a long, long time.
• 31:48
  SPEAKER_05: With no tank.
• 31:49
  SPEAKER_05: Um and the other thing is actually we did make a lightweight tank.
• 31:53
  SPEAKER_05: Uh but lightweight it was, I think, 19,000 pounds.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_05: Um and we used it.
• 32:00
  SPEAKER_05: Uh certainly the UK had a lightweight tank.
• 32:02
  SPEAKER_05: We deployed in 1944 for the Normandy invasion, and apparently it was utterly useless.
• 32:09
  SPEAKER_05: But by deploying it, um we'd scared the Germans.
• 32:12
  SPEAKER_05: Uh so these lightweight tanks deployed, and they were like, please don't shoot at us, and the Germans were, Oh my god, they brought tanks.
• 32:17
  SPEAKER_05: And um they the Germans They went away.
• 32:19
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, the Russians did something.
• 32:20
  SPEAKER_05: The Russians Russians were quite active with putting tanks in aeroplanes.
• 32:24
  SPEAKER_05: Um and when we were talking about this earlier, I think I read that um uh they had uh ended up with a uh fairly substantial tank that they threw out of the back of an Illusion 76, I think it was, uh, which had retro rockets and parachutes, and they pushed it out with people in it.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_04: So it hit the ground running, as they said.
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_04: That's where that phrase comes from.
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_04: Oh dear.
• 32:45
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so they caught uh if if anything caught your uh caught your eye this week, let us know in the comments.
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_03: So that just leaves uh the weekend events, and it's another busy weekend.
• 32:54
  SPEAKER_03: Uh Friday to Sunday, uh there's the old timer flying, it's a big flying in Belgium.
• 32:59
  SPEAKER_03: Saturday sounds like a really lovely event.
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_03: The De Havilland Day flying at Compton Abbas.
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_03: Uh also on Saturday, Grumman flying at Carlisle.
• 33:07
  SPEAKER_03: Also on Saturday, flying at Open Day at Heedon Marcela Airfield, that's near Redford.
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_03: Up at Breeton, there's the George for George Day flying.
• 33:15
  SPEAKER_03: So that'd be the G for George.
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_03: The G for George, that's right, you're right.
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_03: G for George at uh Breton.
• 33:21
  SPEAKER_03: Um Saturday and Sunday, there's a Dean Thought charity flying in memory of Clara Loomis.
• 33:26
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• 33:29
  SPEAKER_03: Sunday, it's uh the Lundy Sunday rearranged from earlier this month.
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_03: And let's not forget, it's also Popham's 50th this Sunday.
• 33:37
  SPEAKER_05: Fantastic.
• 33:38
  SPEAKER_04: I'm looking forward to that event.
• 33:39
  SPEAKER_04: I don't know why, but I I'm I was surprised when I found out Poppham was so young.
• 33:44
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, I wasn't around well, I was around in theory, but I wasn't aware of the beginning of Popham 50 years ago.
• 33:49
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 33:49
  SPEAKER_04: But I'd kind of I don't know, in my in my head it was just something that's been there since the Wright brothers.
• 33:54
  SPEAKER_05: And I think they're hoping to have the the aeroplane that made the first landing there.
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_05: Piper Cub, Golf Alpha X-ray, Golf Papper.
• 34:02
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, they just go on forever.
• 34:03
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 34:04
  SPEAKER_04: As is witnessed by your video ed.
• 34:05
  SPEAKER_05: As yes.
• 34:06
  SPEAKER_05: Uh watch it if you haven't seen the uh Cub weight loss video.
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_05: Uh but yeah.
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_05: So um Popum 50th and also Pop'em by the last of the Popham summer barbecues next Thursday.
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_05: 21st.
• 34:17
  SPEAKER_05: 21st.
• 34:18
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I'm planning to go to that.
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I think a whole bunch of people are.
• 34:21
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