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The Late Debate | 27 November · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: General Man. Welcome the Late Bay.
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  Speaker 2: Well, thanks for joining us.
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  Speaker 3: I'm James Macpherson, with Joe Hildebrand and Liz Storer coming
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  Speaker 3: up tonight. The Trump Dance has become even more popular
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  Speaker 3: than the Macarena. We might even be able to get
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  Speaker 3: Joe Hildebrand to do it a bit later. Plus, when
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  Speaker 3: we look at the papers, Sydney residents told not to
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  Speaker 3: wash their clothes or their dishes in order to conserve power.
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  Speaker 3: I thought this was a first world country. And the
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  Speaker 3: front page of the Canberra Times tomorrow details which government
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  Speaker 3: department has increasing levels of harassment and bullying. We'll share
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  Speaker 3: that with you a bit later when we get to
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  Speaker 3: tomorrow's news.
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  Speaker 2: But first some good news.
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  Speaker 3: Should we dream for a moment that the woke mind
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  Speaker 3: virus might just be on its deathbed. According to Pew Research,
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  Speaker 3: fifty two percent of American workers have been trained in diversity,
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  Speaker 3: equity and inclusion at a cost can you believe it
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  Speaker 3: of eight billion dollars a year to industry. But DEI
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  Speaker 3: policies popularized in twenty twenty after the death of George Floyd, Well,
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  Speaker 3: they're starting to be wound back as people get sick
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  Speaker 3: to death of being pitted against each other. Walmart is
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  Speaker 3: the latest corporation to announce they are completely abandoning DEI policies,
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  Speaker 3: and this is not a tweak. This is an absolute
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  Speaker 3: overhaul of all of their policies.
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  Speaker 2: Here's what they've announced.
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  Speaker 3: They've announced that they will close down their Equity Racial Center,
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  Speaker 3: which they established in twenty twenty at a cost of
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  Speaker 3: one hundred million dollars.
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  Speaker 2: That's gone.
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  Speaker 3: They've said they're no longer going to take into account
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  Speaker 3: the racial and gender mix of suppliers when ordering contracts.
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  Speaker 3: They've said they're no longer going to monitor LGBTQ plus
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  Speaker 3: inclusion in their workplace.
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  Speaker 2: But more than that, they're going to.
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  Speaker 3: Review the sponsorship of all Pride events, so they're not
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  Speaker 3: financially supporting anything that sexualizes children, which basically means they
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  Speaker 3: won't be supporting any Pride events. And on top of that,
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  Speaker 3: they're reviewing all of their products and getting rid of
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  Speaker 3: anything that sexualizes or promotes trans and non binary products
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  Speaker 3: to children. Now bear in mind walpart Walmart employee one
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  Speaker 3: point six one point eight million Americans, So this is
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  Speaker 3: a big deal. But they're not the first company to
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  Speaker 3: do this. The Ford Motor Company Low's, Boeing, Harley Davidson
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  Speaker 3: have all announced prior to Walmart's announcement that they too
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  Speaker 3: are abandoning DEI principles.
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  Speaker 2: So, Joe and Liz, here's my question. Is this because
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  Speaker 2: of Trump?
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  Speaker 3: Or was this already happening and Trump kind of tapped
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  Speaker 3: into a groundswell that existed already and is growing stronger,
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  Speaker 3: not just in America but maybe here in Australia as well.
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  Speaker 2: Dare we dream?
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  Speaker 4: I think this was definitely already happening, as these companies
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  Speaker 4: just came to bear with what they were actually doing
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  Speaker 4: and going what are we getting out of this? It's
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  Speaker 4: certainly not floating with our base. On top of the
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  Speaker 4: companies that you've already listed, there's John Deere, tractor supply,
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  Speaker 4: Molsen cause Jack Daniels, I think they've just realized we're
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  Speaker 4: spending all these money on this DEI initiatives. It's simply
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  Speaker 4: not floating with our customer base and perhaps just the
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  Speaker 4: general question of what are we doing this anyway? Like
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  Speaker 4: John Deere is a tractor company, what interest do you
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  Speaker 4: have in DEI in preaching to people, whether it be
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  Speaker 4: your employees or your clients, your customers about this kind
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  Speaker 4: of thing. Also, what helps really get this on the
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  Speaker 4: nose is a new study by a place called Network
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  Speaker 4: Contagion Research Institute NCRII in America. They've done some study
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  Speaker 4: on these DEI practices, which are very prolific, not just
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  Speaker 4: in workplaces but in.
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  Speaker 5: Schools, in universities, very.
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  Speaker 4: Much in America and as we know here in Australia
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  Speaker 4: as well.
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  Speaker 5: So here's the guy who headed up this study. His
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  Speaker 5: name is.
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  Speaker 6: How do you know it?
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  Speaker 5: To him, Liz Finkelstein, he said.
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  Speaker 4: What we did in this study was we took a
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  Speaker 4: lot of these ideas that were found to still be
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  Speaker 4: very prominent in a lot of these DEI lectures and
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  Speaker 4: interventions and training, and we said, well, how.
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  Speaker 5: Is this going to affect people.
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  Speaker 4: What we found is that when people are exposed to
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  Speaker 4: this ideology, what happens is they become hostile, without any
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  Speaker 4: indication that anything racist actually happened. These findings from this
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  Speaker 4: research were so shocking and forceful that the author'smedia automatically
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  Speaker 4: they'd use three hundred and twenty four participants in the
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  Speaker 4: original piece of work in which they gave some people
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  Speaker 4: just to completely race neutral piece of text on corn
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  Speaker 4: of all topics to read, and then they gave other
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  Speaker 4: participants these really race baty articles by well known Kendy
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  Speaker 4: and DiAngelo, who you are really big on all things racism.
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  Speaker 4: So they got all these participants together and then they
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  Speaker 4: gave them a completely race neutral scenario in which a
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  Speaker 4: student is rejected from college, and they ask for.
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  Speaker 5: These people's responses.
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  Speaker 4: Well, the research was absolutely comprehensive. The implications of these
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  Speaker 4: findings can simply not be downplayed.
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  Speaker 5: The research clearly showed that instead of.
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  Speaker 4: Achieving equality dismantling systemic oppression, which is what all these
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  Speaker 4: dei tichboxes are supposed to be doing, they may well,
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  Speaker 4: in fact be deepening divisions and this cultural resentment between races.
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  Speaker 4: So well done to all the corporations spending eight billion
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  Speaker 4: dollars a year on this rubbish, you may well be
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  Speaker 4: undermining the very cause that you claim to be promoting. Now,
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  Speaker 4: this research was, like I say, so comprehensive, so decisive.
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  Speaker 4: The researchers couldn't believe it, and they said, okay, let's
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  Speaker 4: go again.
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  Speaker 5: Let's go again. We'll do the exact.
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  Speaker 4: Same thing, but with almost three times the amount of participants.
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  Speaker 4: So this time they got together just under a thousand people,
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  Speaker 4: much much bigger set of participants there, and they found
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  Speaker 4: exactly the same thing. They got exactly the same research
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  Speaker 4: data back.
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  Speaker 5: I think it's.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely incredible as well that this research has been suppressed.
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  Speaker 5: The New York Times refused to.
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  Speaker 4: Touch it, despite the fact that they had over twenty
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  Speaker 4: times previously publicized the ncri's findings on other research that
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  Speaker 4: they'd done, and Bloomberg just turned around and said, not
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  Speaker 4: on your life.
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  Speaker 5: The editor was like, I'm not touching this.
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  Speaker 4: We're all about DEI, So god forbid we let people
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  Speaker 4: know that in fact, research shows this stuff ain't even working.
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  Speaker 4: Not only is it not working, it's undermining the very
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  Speaker 4: causes we think.
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  Speaker 5: That we're achieving. It's just incredible, Joe.
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  Speaker 4: Nobody wants to admit familiar it is incredible.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, I suppose what the report's right to get
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  Speaker 6: out is that if you are if you are told
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  Speaker 6: that racism is absolutely everywhere and that you've got to
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  Speaker 6: be hypervigilant and look for it everywhere because it is
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  Speaker 6: everywhere and you just haven't been seeing it before, then
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  Speaker 6: obviously you're going to see it everywhere. And the problem
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  Speaker 6: with seeing it everywhere is then you miss it when
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  Speaker 6: it actually matters, and when it's so. This is the
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  Speaker 6: whole problem with anything to do with identity politics or
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  Speaker 6: race based politics. It doesn't address the disadvantage that someone
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  Speaker 6: may or may not be suffering because of their race.
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  Speaker 6: It just means that you see racism everywhere, and you
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  Speaker 6: are more likely to see all this racism and in
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  Speaker 6: it experience all this racism if you are alive to
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  Speaker 6: awake to or if you will woke to the racism,
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  Speaker 6: which means that it is usually the most overprivileged, tertiary educated, affluent,
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  Speaker 6: well educated people and I use that in air quotes,
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  Speaker 6: who feel the most racially oppressed even though they are
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  Speaker 6: in fact the most privileged of their race.
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  Speaker 1: Typically so.
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  Speaker 6: So that is why it is completely perverse and backward,
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  Speaker 6: and it's why I think we should always see things
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  Speaker 6: in terms of disadvantage instead of seeing things in terms
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  Speaker 6: I've raised them and saying, all right, who is worse off?
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  Speaker 6: Who is really sorry? Now, there's no question that, for example,
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  Speaker 6: there are Indigenous communities in Australia that are terribly disadvantaged
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  Speaker 6: and have horrible outcomes in terms of violence, substances, health,
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  Speaker 6: educational outcomes, job opportunities, all that sort of stuff. But
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  Speaker 6: you focus on those disadvantages and you fix them rather
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  Speaker 6: than saying, okay, well, because this terrible disadvantage is happening
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  Speaker 6: in will Kenya, we better make sure that we're not
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  Speaker 6: racist to you know, you know, affluent indigenous people who
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  Speaker 6: just happen to be indigenous but living in you know,
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  Speaker 6: say in a city Willara or Glebe or Newtown or
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  Speaker 6: North Kirk. And so the whole problem with seeing things
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  Speaker 6: through the lens of race, through the lens of color,
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  Speaker 6: is it actually ignores disadvantage. And that is why it
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  Speaker 6: is so attractive to the new Left, if you like,
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  Speaker 6: so the West East and West Coast elites, because they
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  Speaker 6: can claim disadvantage, they can claim oppression that say, I've
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  Speaker 6: been you know, hi, I'm from MSNB, say and I'm
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  Speaker 6: discriminated against because despite the fact i own three hundred
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  Speaker 6: thousand dollars a year, I'm black. Where instead of ignoring
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  Speaker 6: the fact that there are heads of disadvantaged people who
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  Speaker 6: are not getting a look in because rich, privileged elites
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  Speaker 6: are soaking up all the oppression for themselves because they're
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  Speaker 6: the ones who are alive.
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  Speaker 1: To it and can see it everywhere. It's a sickness.
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  Speaker 3: The other problem with DEI is it teaches people about
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  Speaker 3: race to the point of obsession. So then you get
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  Speaker 3: people who are obsessed with race. Well, what do you
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  Speaker 3: call someone who's obsessed with race?
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  Speaker 2: A racer? And so I wrote a column for the Australian.
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  Speaker 3: Newspaper because, as you guys know, I've got twin boys
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  Speaker 3: who were born in Ethiopius. They're black, and I wrote
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  Speaker 3: a column for The Australian saying that the biggest thing
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  Speaker 3: I'm trying to protect my kids from is not from racism,
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  Speaker 3: it's from imagining racism is everywhere. So the whole diversity,
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  Speaker 3: equity and inclusion stuff is terrible for my kids because
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  Speaker 3: what it does is it would teach my black children
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  Speaker 3: to be hyper sensitive about race, and then it would
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  Speaker 3: teach everyone around them to be walking on eggshells because
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  Speaker 3: you know, don't look at them sideways, because they'll interpret
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  Speaker 3: that as you're looking at them sideways because they're African,
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  Speaker 3: and it actually brings a division. So my kids are
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  Speaker 3: hyper aware. In this scenario of a fence, you don't
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  Speaker 3: want to offend them, so you keep your distance. They
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  Speaker 3: interpret that as well, you're keeping your distance. Obviously, because
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  Speaker 3: I'm black. So the whole thing snowballs, and it just
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  Speaker 3: creates more and more division when the intention was supposed
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  Speaker 3: to be to bring people together. So the best way
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  Speaker 3: to end racism is just to stop talking about race.
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  Speaker 1: That's right.
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  Speaker 6: Martin Luther King said it judge a man by the
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  Speaker 6: content of his character, not the color of his skin.
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  Speaker 6: It is pretty effing simple. And all the great crimes
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  Speaker 6: that have been commit when people didn't do that, when
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  Speaker 6: they said, because you are this race, because you are
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  Speaker 6: a different color, that is what makes you different, and
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  Speaker 6: we have to treat you different.
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  Speaker 1: I've got to turn you flying the same principle.
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  Speaker 3: Lot of times in our apartment building, my boys will
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  Speaker 3: comment on the fact that the older people when they
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  Speaker 3: get in the elevator with them, they look at them
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  Speaker 3: a little bit like, and I said, well, you're six
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  Speaker 3: foot two and you're black, and you're athletic, and there
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  Speaker 3: are older people, so they might I said, what happens then,
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  Speaker 3: and they said, well, we smile and say hello, and
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  Speaker 3: I said we'll end. And they said, well, the older
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  Speaker 3: people instantly melt and they love us. And I said, exactly,
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  Speaker 3: because they're getting to know you.
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  Speaker 2: And that's the point.
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  Speaker 3: You don't get to know someone based on their melanin
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  Speaker 3: or their sexuality or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: You get to know them as a human being.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, I've got a few people based on their sexuality.
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  Speaker 5: God Joe every time. Every time, it.
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  Speaker 4: Was Morgan Freeman who said, if you want to end racism,
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  Speaker 4: just stop talking about it, stop talking about race. I
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  Speaker 4: think you hit the nail on the head to the
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  Speaker 4: UK now where MP's in the House of Commons are
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  Speaker 4: about to decide regarding a bill on Friday which will
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  Speaker 4: decide the future of assisted suicide.
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  Speaker 5: In the UK. It's the first of its kind.
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  Speaker 4: These guys have racked their brains for weeks now as
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  Speaker 4: to where they stand on.
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  Speaker 5: This morally fraught issue.
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  Speaker 4: But imagine you're just tubing around London, as pretty much
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  Speaker 4: everyone does, especially you come across what has now been
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  Speaker 4: dubbed as the Westminster death Tunnel. These have been hung
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  Speaker 4: throughout the walls of the Westminster Tube station. My dyinglish
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  Speaker 4: is my family won't see me suffer and I won't
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  Speaker 4: have to. These ads were put up by dying in Sorry,
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  Speaker 4: dignity in.
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  Speaker 5: Dying, because of course, unless.
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  Speaker 4: You're offering yourself, where's the dignity if you're just leaving
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  Speaker 4: it up to mother nature. I mean, seriously, I do
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  Speaker 4: not understand the brains behind such marketing ploys.
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  Speaker 5: The big question is who funds these people.
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  Speaker 4: I couldn't find that out, and I'd love to know
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  Speaker 4: if anybody else can, because this would have cost an
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  Speaker 4: absolute motza.
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  Speaker 5: It's a really.
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  Speaker 4: Strange marketing ploy right because right now this is before
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  Speaker 4: the House of Commons, So the only real people that
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  Speaker 4: you should be targeting if your pro assisted suicide are
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  Speaker 4: the people.
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  Speaker 5: In the chamber. Why would you be advertising.
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  Speaker 4: This, this pro death culture in a society which already
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  Speaker 4: has a serious suicide issue. This is true sadly across
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  Speaker 4: the West.
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  Speaker 5: Why on earth would you be promoting this?
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  Speaker 4: And I was very heartened to see today that people
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  Speaker 4: from the Samaritans have come along and slapped their little
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  Speaker 4: signs on top of these huge billboards. The Samaritans are
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  Speaker 4: a charity which supports people suffering emotion or distress, struggling
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  Speaker 4: to cope, or are at risk of suicide. So they
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  Speaker 4: wanted to make their presence known and be like, hold up,
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  Speaker 4: while you're encouraging people to off themselves, we want to
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  Speaker 4: encourage people to stay alive. As long as possible, and
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  Speaker 4: if they are struggling, give us a call.
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  Speaker 5: We are there for them. Now.
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  Speaker 4: I can understand people who are very pro this issue,
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  Speaker 4: wanting to write submissions or contacting their local MP.
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  Speaker 5: But this isn't that.
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  Speaker 4: It's literally promoting amongst society, this pro death culture, and.
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  Speaker 3: Of all the places to promote it in the Tube,
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  Speaker 3: which is a well known place where people go to
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  Speaker 3: end their lives. There's been sixty eight suicides and or
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  Speaker 3: suicide attempts in the London Tube in the past twelve months.
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  Speaker 3: So can you imagine having a sign there promoting volunteer
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  Speaker 3: suicide or assistant suicide where they call it these diet days,
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  Speaker 3: where you've got people actually contemplating ending their lives.
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  Speaker 2: On top of that, the Transport.
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  Speaker 3: For London organization which approves ads in the Tube, say
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  Speaker 3: they will not approve ads or images or messages which
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  Speaker 3: relate to matters of public controversy or sensitivity.
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  Speaker 2: And yet they've approved this.
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  Speaker 3: But it gets even more outrageous because you're not allowed
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  Speaker 3: to advertise fast food in the Tube because it's unhealthy.
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  Speaker 3: There was a comedian ed Gamble I share how ridiculous
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: this is. A comedian ed gamble. Just a little more
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  Speaker 3: than a year ago, he was advertising a stand up
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  Speaker 3: comedy show he was doing and in the advertisement for
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: his stand up comedy show, he's holding a hot dog. Well,
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  Speaker 3: that advertisement was not approved because you can't advertise hot
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  Speaker 3: dogs in the tube. It's not healthy. There was an
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  Speaker 3: ad for a weight loss and it asked women, are
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: you beach body ready? And Sadik Khan, the Mayor of London,
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  Speaker 3: said nobody should feel pressurized while they travel on the
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  Speaker 3: tube into unrealistic expectations surrounding their bodies. So you can
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  Speaker 3: advertise assisted suicide in the tube, but you can't advertise
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  Speaker 3: with Big.
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  Speaker 2: Mac and coke.
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  Speaker 6: There's a big difference there, James, and you know it.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, you can advertise euthanasia and that's a legitimate politically.
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  Speaker 6: You can advertise euth in asia in the tube, but
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  Speaker 6: your advertised fast food. I mean, let's be serious, fast
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  Speaker 6: food could kill you.
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  Speaker 3: That's exactly the irony, Joe, you pointed it out.
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  Speaker 1: Although I have to say, but why are they turning.
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  Speaker 2: A blind eye to this?
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  Speaker 3: Why does Saidik Kahan get all up at you about
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  Speaker 3: fast food?
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  Speaker 2: We all know, but it's just will tell me why.
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  Speaker 6: We all know what, because because people don't find things
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  Speaker 6: controversial if they agree with them. And so if you've
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  Speaker 6: got an electorate, a constituency like London, which tends to
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  Speaker 6: be apart from.
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  Speaker 1: The glorious years of Boris.
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  Speaker 6: Johnson, that tends to be like in a city, in
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  Speaker 6: urban constituencies right around the world in the West anyway,
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  Speaker 6: they're very progressive and they you know, can't like I'm
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  Speaker 6: sure you know, if he was living in Australia, all
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  Speaker 6: his friends would have voted for the Voice, if he
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  Speaker 6: was living in the US, or none of his friends
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  Speaker 6: would have voted for Donald Trump, and so he'd be thinking, oh, well,
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  Speaker 6: this is nothing controversy about this. This is what ninety
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  Speaker 6: percent of people think. But that is why again, that
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  Speaker 6: is why they put these things out there instead of
• 17:07
  Speaker 6: targeting MPs directly, because if you have just people bombarding
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  Speaker 6: MPs inboxes with stuff that spam, but if you are
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  Speaker 6: getting people like us to talk about it, but more
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  Speaker 6: importantly getting people in London to talk about it, and
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  Speaker 6: they are then talking to their MPs. So when their
• 17:18
  Speaker 6: MPs go and talk to their constituents this sort of
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  Speaker 6: thing is brought up, they think, oh, this isn't just
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  Speaker 6: a letter writing campaign. This is a real issue in
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  Speaker 6: the community. In the community, and so they take it
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  Speaker 6: more seriously. But I have to say the first thing
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  Speaker 6: I thought when I saw this and I said my
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  Speaker 6: dying wishes this was someone just sent me a message
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  Speaker 6: on Instagram. Paul said, I have two dying wishes. One
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  Speaker 6: is I want my remains to be spread around Disneyland,
• 17:42
  Speaker 6: and two is I don't want to be cremated.
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: I just this may well backfire on proponents of euthanasia
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: because advertising it publicly like this before, as you said,
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: it seemed, and to do it in the tube where
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: people do tend to go to take their lives is
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: just unbelievable. Let's stay overseas, but go to France for
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: a moment you might remember. Back in twenty twenty, a
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: thirteen year old Muslim girl accused her classroom teacher of Islamophobia.
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: She said that during class he held up pictures of
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: a Charlie Hebdo magazine that showed images of Mohammed, but
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: prior to doing that, he sent all of the Muslim
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: children out of the class. Now she complained to her
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: father and mother about Islamophobia. They went online and started
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: the campaign against the teacher, which resulted in the Muslim
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: community getting very upset. Eventually, an eighteen year old Chechen
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: migrant got a knife, tracked down the teacher with help
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: from some of the students, and publicly beheaded him.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: Now this was a few years ago.
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: Eight people have been charged with being accessories to this murder,
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: and they're now on trial.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: But here's what happened just this week.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: The thirteen year old girl who made the accusation, she's
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: now seventeen. She's admitted in court she made the whole
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: thing up. She lied about it because she had been
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: suspended from school for two days and was scared her
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: parents would be upset with her, so rather than tell
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: them she'd been suspended, she told them the teacher was
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: Islamophobic and had kicked all the Muslim kids out of
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: the classroom. She made a public apology in the courtroom
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: this week, saying, I would like to apologize to the
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: family of slain teacher Samuel Patti, who, as I said,
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: was publicly decapitated.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: She said, I'd destroyed your lives. I am sorry.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: She's been given eight months of probation for slander, but
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: this is just an unbelievably sad story, but beyond sad,
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: it highlights the danger we now have in Western countries
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: where you've got unchecked immigration, where you've got these different
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: cultures living in ghettos, where you've got the accusation of
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: Islamophobia that can result in some people starting to become violent.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: And this is not an isolated incident. Think about Batley
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: Grammar in the UK, where a teacher was accused of
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: showing Charlie Hebdo magazine images of Mohammed. He was doing
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: it for a six ethics class, and immediately there were
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: demonstrations for days outside the school. The school publicly apologized,
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: the apology was read by police. Can you believe it
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: to demonstrate us to try and shew them away? There
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: were death threats against the teacher. He's been in hiding
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: with his wife and four children for the past three
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: years and is still in hiding to this day. And
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: I found about another three, just really quickly, another three examples,
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: so we don't have time to go into but you've
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: got school teachers who are petrified now of talking about Islam,
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: of talking about basic ethics as to whether or not
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: you can show an image because of what happened to
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: this teacher in France and to adssault to the wound.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: The whole thing wasn't even true.
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: She wasn't even in that classroom of the teacher she
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: accused of being Islamophobia.
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: Here we have these Western countries that have allowed radicals.
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: Obviously we're not talking about the vast majority of Muslims,
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: we're talking about radical Islamists into their countries because on
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: an application form you can't tell the difference between a
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: garden variety someone who follows the Muslim faith, and someone
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: who is capable of literally taking someone's head off their
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: body simply over an accusation of Islamophobia.
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: I remember years and years ago a.
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: Priest in France was in the middle of mass and
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: these two blokes ran in Islamists and beheaded him in
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: front of the entire Catholic Mass that he was conducting
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: at the time. And look, there is no punishment severe enough.
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: But this means that these Western countries, especially the UK
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: and France, have seen far more of this than God
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: God willing, we will ever see in Australia. But these
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: instances of utter brutality. Charlie hebdo itself is another perfect example,
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: these journals gave their lives simply for mocking the prophet Muhammad,
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: and people now feel.
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: Like they're held hostage in their own country.
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: Should point out it's not just in Western countries where
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: you've got unchecked immigration, and as you said, it's not
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: all Muslims. There's a small group of radicals, but even
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: in countries like Pakistan where you can make accusations of
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: blasphemy against people you don't like or against people of
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: another faith. And that's why Western nations need to be
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: very careful with de facto blasphemy laws and need to
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: make it very clear we don't tolerate this in the West,
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: because if you start to have de facto blasphemy laws,
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: you are providing.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: Encouragement to some people to think.
• 23:00
  Speaker 6: Of that is exactly right. And that's what I was
• 23:03
  Speaker 6: going to say. I don't I don't think this is
• 23:04
  Speaker 6: an immigration problem so much as a cultural problem. And
• 23:08
  Speaker 6: we see ice is killed I killed far more people
• 23:14
  Speaker 6: in Syria than it did in France. The Isis ideology
• 23:18
  Speaker 6: is slaughtering far more people in the Arab world than
• 23:20
  Speaker 6: it is in the Western world, and has and that
• 23:22
  Speaker 6: was when a lot of these things took place, saying
• 23:25
  Speaker 6: with al Qaeda, same with other extremists, they killed more
• 23:27
  Speaker 6: in Nigeria than they are here. So it's not the
• 23:30
  Speaker 6: problem is that these people exist at all, not necessarily
• 23:32
  Speaker 6: where they exist, they shouldn't exist. They shouldn't think the
• 23:35
  Speaker 6: things that they think, and that is a product of
• 23:37
  Speaker 6: a diseased mind.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Where the West.
• 23:40
  Speaker 6: Again fails, or where supposed sort of smart people who
• 23:44
  Speaker 6: are meant to be in charge fail, is when they
• 23:46
  Speaker 6: give these acts a fig leaf of legitimacy. So again
• 23:50
  Speaker 6: we're just talking about it before. If you are conditioned
• 23:52
  Speaker 6: to think that Islamophobia is everywhere, or encourage people to
• 23:56
  Speaker 6: see Islamophobia everywhere, then that is exactly what they are
• 24:00
  Speaker 6: to do, and that then makes what you do next
• 24:02
  Speaker 6: as a result of that more legitimate than it otherwise
• 24:05
  Speaker 6: would be. And it's exactly the same as we've seen
• 24:07
  Speaker 6: with the outrage and debate and protest over Israel and Palestine.
• 24:11
  Speaker 6: People say, oh no, we're not anti jew we're just
• 24:14
  Speaker 6: anti Zionist. Oh no, we don't hate Jewish people, we
• 24:16
  Speaker 6: just hate the State of Israel or Israeli project. Then
• 24:20
  Speaker 6: wouldn't you know it, You've got people torching cars or
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: drawing swastikas on synagogues or doing whatever you've got potential
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: hate crimes against Jewish properties. I'm sure it will only
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: be a matter of time before Jews are physically well.
• 24:31
  Speaker 6: In fact, some Jewish people have been physically assaulted already.
• 24:34
  Speaker 6: So again, and then all these people are doing these things.
• 24:37
  Speaker 6: But it's okay because I was told by the left,
• 24:41
  Speaker 6: by the cultural elites, that I was perfectly justified in
• 24:43
  Speaker 6: my outrage and my fury because genocide, because apartheid. Because
• 24:48
  Speaker 6: so again, if you fuel the if you legitimize this
• 24:52
  Speaker 6: extremism and create a sort of political ideological, sort of
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: infrastructure around it that makes it look normal, except makes
• 25:00
  Speaker 6: it look sympathetic and okay, then that is exactly what
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: these people are going to do. Islamophobia this person.
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: A lot of people would say, this all goes back
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: to Selman Rushian. Was it the eighties when he had
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: a fart white issued against him. Instead of standing up
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: midnight right at a free speech and instead of saying
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: this is not on in the UK, politicians cowed to Islamists.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: Selman Rushbi went into hiding, and the lesson was learned.
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: You can make these accusations work. Facto blasphemy laws and
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: it works, and then you've got people who are willing
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: to enforce them.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: So it's a major problem.
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: One hundred percent Vigilante justice feels like, well, you guys
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: approve of this right wrong. Back to Australia now we're
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: speaking of a clash of the cultures. Senator Payment has
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: taken Senator Pauline Hansen to task.
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: This morning.
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: Senator Pauline Hanson simply got up in the chamber and said, hey, look,
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: no one is allowed to serve in this place as
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: a senator or MP in Federal Parliament if they have
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: duel citizenship. This is very clear in Section forty four.
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: You simply can't do it. But she said, Senator Payman,
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: we seem to have made some sort of acquiescence here
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: because while Senator Payment has claimed to try to do
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: a due diligence to relinquish her Afghani citizenship, she's not
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: been successful. So we do indeed have a dual citizen
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: in our Senate.
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: Is this okay? Shouldn't we have an inquiry into this? Now?
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: The inquiry didn't.
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: Get up, but Payman was absolutely inceensed at this perfectly
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: logical question by Senator Pauline Hansen. You would not believe
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: Payman's reaction.
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: Here's some of it.
• 26:49
  Speaker 7: All that Senator Hansen does in this place is spread hatred,
• 26:55
  Speaker 7: spread division, because that's what that's what you're made to
• 26:59
  Speaker 7: do here. And it's outrageous, it is it. It's beyond comprehension.
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: She then goes on to quote old quotes from Senator
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: Pauline Hanson, saying how can you not consider these racism?
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: And gosh, doesn't she work herself into a ladder?
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: If that is not racist?
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: What is it?
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: Oh, it's not racist?
• 27:27
  Speaker 7: Or somebody bring the dictionary because Senator Hanson does not
• 27:31
  Speaker 7: know the definition of racism.
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: The fact that you would say.
• 27:38
  Speaker 7: Just weeks ago to Senator for rookie piss off back
• 27:42
  Speaker 7: to Pakistan, You're not just vindictive, mean nasty, you bring
• 27:48
  Speaker 7: disgrace to the human race, no dignity whatsoever as a.
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: Senator, picking off, no dignity as a senator. The irony
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: seems to be completely lost on payment there.
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: What do you call this shrill tantrum?
• 28:06
  Speaker 6: It's not lost on Ralph Babbitt, though, the said of
• 28:08
  Speaker 6: the sitting behind her, He's expression, I just talk about
• 28:13
  Speaker 6: just chewing up the scenery. This guy steals the show.
• 28:16
  Speaker 6: It is amazing and he does it all without saying
• 28:19
  Speaker 6: a word.
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: You would, if you haven't been paying attention to send
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: it to Ralph Babett sitting in the background.
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: Here, here's one last clip. Pay attention to his facial expressions.
• 28:31
  Speaker 7: But you know what, Santa Hanson, how do you live
• 28:35
  Speaker 7: with yourself, Santa Hanson, with so much violent hatred? How
• 28:39
  Speaker 7: do you live through your days spreading hatred?
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: How do you go to sleep?
• 28:46
  Speaker 7: How do you look your neighbors in the eye, knowing
• 28:48
  Speaker 7: that you come to this place and spreading the vile hatred,
• 28:55
  Speaker 7: the vile she's holding up yup business of the day
• 29:02
  Speaker 7: because she is obsessed with me.
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: Wow, well done.
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: Wow, Okay, that wasn't embarrassing for you at all, Senator Payman.
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: I mean, these kinds of outcries are just so embarrassing
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: to watch. This rade went on for over five minutes,
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: and then she finishes it by accusing Senator Pauline Hanson
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: of being obsessed with her. You don't think you're a
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: bit obsessed, Senator payment It's a perfectly logical inquiry that
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: Hanson put up. I mean, we'd all love to know
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: what you are doing in our Senate with a dual citizenship.
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: Nobody else gets that privilege.
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: In fact, between twenty seventeen and twenty and eighteen, fifteen
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: members of Parliament were stood down, some by their own
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: admission and.
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: Others by the High Court because they.
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: Were found to have duel citizenship. You don't get to
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: do it. And Hanson, even after this to rage, believe
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: it or not, she's not back down, says I'm still
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: going to be looking into this because it's not lawful,
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: which is perfectly fair.
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: And then of.
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: Course we had Senator Thorpe throwing Payper.
• 30:18
  Speaker 6: Well, this is why I'm disappointed with Fatima Payment. I mean,
• 30:21
  Speaker 6: she's just not taking it to the next level. She's
• 30:24
  Speaker 6: already got a senatorial colleague who's pretty much in her
• 30:27
  Speaker 6: exact same position, got elected with one party and then decided,
• 30:30
  Speaker 6: I f you. I'm just going to sit by myself
• 30:32
  Speaker 6: because you know reasons. And Senator Thorpe's going around, she's
• 30:36
  Speaker 6: you know, she's barnstorming the King, she's tearing up Pauline
• 30:41
  Speaker 6: Hanson's notes, she's flipping the bird, and Fatima Payment thinks
• 30:45
  Speaker 6: she can just get up and say a few crosswords,
• 30:47
  Speaker 6: and that's going to make the six o'clock news.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: Try harder, Senator, try harder. That's all.
• 30:52
  Speaker 6: But yeah, there is so with the secrety forty four stuff.
• 30:55
  Speaker 6: There is if you have taken The reason why everyone
• 30:58
  Speaker 6: else got caught out is because they hadn't taken and
• 31:00
  Speaker 6: reasonable steps to get rid of the articitisztenship. So she
• 31:03
  Speaker 6: does have a defense where she can say, look, the
• 31:05
  Speaker 6: Taliban's in charge of Afghanistan. I can't Actually, I've tried
• 31:08
  Speaker 6: to get rid of it. I've sent them a.
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: Letter, has taken those and he's asking for.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: Chris Bowen was sitting with the Teleiban just last week
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: at the that was.
• 31:21
  Speaker 6: To tackle climate change perfectly.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: He could have asked, it's not like the Taliban contactable.
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: They're going to un events these days.
• 31:28
  Speaker 6: After a hard day depriving women of the right to
• 31:31
  Speaker 6: vote and girls of an education. This is I'd like
• 31:34
  Speaker 6: to sit back and relax with the air conditioner onlike
• 31:36
  Speaker 6: anyone else.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: That's why we need net zero.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: This issue with payment and her response is everything we've
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: been talking about tonight, where pulling hands and raises a
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: simple constitutional issue. How can you have dual citizenship? And
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: still be sitting here. Should we not be asking questions
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: and payment screens racism? And that's the problems and the
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: earlier top xamp and goes on really too much DEI
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: in our federal Senate.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I agree.
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: Props to Senator Ralph Babett who made that very enjoyable.
• 32:07
  Speaker 6: Best supporting actor Best Supporting Actor in emotion fature by
• 32:11
  Speaker 6: one thousand.
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, But not all the politicians in this country are bad.
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: And Joe, I know you've got your favorite, so tell
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: us about one point.
• 32:18
  Speaker 6: Thank you, I think, Thank god, right this, Thank you
• 32:21
  Speaker 6: very much, James. This is a little segment I'm going
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: to call spin one oh one.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: Right. This is how when you dealt with a crisis.
• 32:28
  Speaker 6: When you've got you know, the local news corp tabloid
• 32:31
  Speaker 6: up your wazoo, you know, searching for the rent. It's
• 32:34
  Speaker 6: got a screaming headline saying.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: How dare you?
• 32:36
  Speaker 6: How could you? This is how you handle it.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 32:40
  Speaker 6: This is the Adelaide Advertiser this week and it had
• 32:43
  Speaker 6: a great yarn, fantastic yarn where the Melanowskis government in
• 32:46
  Speaker 6: South Australia. Peter Malinowskus, you may know him for being
• 32:49
  Speaker 6: the second most handsome premier on the Australian main line.
• 32:52
  Speaker 6: They had an article that found that he was hiring
• 32:55
  Speaker 6: a spin doctor on a salary of over four hundred
• 32:59
  Speaker 6: thousand dollars. And this is and this is just obviously
• 33:03
  Speaker 6: absolutely ridiculous.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: Right and.
• 33:06
  Speaker 6: They've screened it on the front page of going jumped
• 33:08
  Speaker 6: up and down about it.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: Great yarn full props.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: Say Bill Shorten's speech, right, didn't think it was ridiculous?
• 33:13
  Speaker 6: No, that's right, and I don't think it's ridiculous either.
• 33:15
  Speaker 6: By the way, if anyone, if anyone wants to hire me,
• 33:18
  Speaker 6: I'll do it for three ninety nine.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: So just think of the savings.
• 33:22
  Speaker 6: But again, now, when these sort of scandals typically hit
• 33:27
  Speaker 6: politicians or political leaders, what.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: Do you hear?
• 33:29
  Speaker 6: Oh no, no, that's not true. What about the opposition
• 33:31
  Speaker 6: they do it too? Oh no, you know that's a lie.
• 33:34
  Speaker 6: Either the media has got it wrong again or no, actually,
• 33:36
  Speaker 6: it's completely within the rules, et.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: Cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
• 33:39
  Speaker 6: What does Penn and Melanawskus do students of politics listen
• 33:43
  Speaker 6: and take note?
• 33:45
  Speaker 8: What's donne I think me is the prospect this person
• 33:48
  Speaker 8: could get paid over four hundred grand a year. Turns
• 33:50
  Speaker 8: out there was never the case. There was an advertising band,
• 33:55
  Speaker 8: a band for wages or salary put in the ad
• 33:59
  Speaker 8: online that went from two in a thirty thousand to
• 34:01
  Speaker 8: four hundred and twenty nine. I spoke to the sea
• 34:04
  Speaker 8: of DPC last night that ad is being he's decided
• 34:07
  Speaker 8: to withdraw that ad.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: There you go.
• 34:10
  Speaker 6: So the opposition actually came out and said, quote unquote,
• 34:14
  Speaker 6: this doesn't pass the pub test, and Melanauskas came back
• 34:17
  Speaker 6: in response and said, this doesn't.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: Pass the pub test. You're absolutely right. We're killing the ad,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: We're killing the position.
• 34:23
  Speaker 6: They're not going to get that much.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: That's it.
• 34:24
  Speaker 6: Thank you very much for bringing it to my attention.
• 34:26
  Speaker 6: That is how you kill off a scandal. And it
• 34:29
  Speaker 6: is just beautiful to see at least someone in politics
• 34:32
  Speaker 6: who knows how.
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: To do it and has any for the rest of labor.
• 34:37
  Speaker 6: Him and Chris Mins. Just watch what they do. They
• 34:39
  Speaker 6: are world class best of all.
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: They can hold it a shop together.
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: Trying best on that though when they say it doesn't
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: pass the pub test, right, why are we spending.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: Two hundred three hundred four hundred k on spin doctors?
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: They could just walk down to the local pub, run
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: the policy or whatever.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: That gets sad. Do you drink for those they can
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: have their.
• 35:00
  Speaker 6: I don't know if you've bought a schooner in the
• 35:01
  Speaker 6: last couple of months, mate, four hundred grand will probably
• 35:05
  Speaker 6: get you about three rounds, So.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: Things go up.
• 35:08
  Speaker 6: By way of contrast, this is how not to handle
• 35:12
  Speaker 6: a crisis when you're faced by a massive controversy is
• 35:14
  Speaker 6: blowing up in your face and it is backfiring terribly,
• 35:17
  Speaker 6: and it's all over the enginet and everyone's just having
• 35:20
  Speaker 6: a go at you. This is what not to do. Jaguar,
• 35:23
  Speaker 6: of course, very famously put out and ad recently in
• 35:27
  Speaker 6: which there were no cars. It was an egg for
• 35:31
  Speaker 6: Jaguars without any jaguars. Instead, there were various people, and
• 35:36
  Speaker 6: this did seem to cover every race, gender, sexuality and everything.
• 35:42
  Speaker 6: Have a look, it's just I mean this to me,
• 35:45
  Speaker 6: screams E Series V twelve. I just don't even know
• 35:50
  Speaker 6: what it was.
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: Basically a pile of androgynous looking people you can't quite
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: tell whose male or female, wearing a pile of ridiculous outfits.
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: They sit down, stand up. It starts by them coming
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  Speaker 4: out of a lift. Nothing about it makes sense and
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: certainly nothing.
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: Hearts back to Jaguar.
• 36:09
  Speaker 6: Just like B, trans B, gender fluid, B, non binary,
• 36:13
  Speaker 6: shag whoever you want as often as you want, good
• 36:15
  Speaker 6: on your I'm married. I wish I could too, but
• 36:17
  Speaker 6: that's all over for me. I'm just saying I've got
• 36:20
  Speaker 6: my lovely wife at home and got huge.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: Accordingly, then how did the Jaguar boss handle all the flat.
• 36:27
  Speaker 6: I'm glad you asked, mister Bicpherson.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: I thought we should ask ahead of jar.
• 36:32
  Speaker 6: I was just you know, I like to talk about
• 36:34
  Speaker 6: problems at home, you know, in separate beds. But we're
• 36:37
  Speaker 6: still very emotionally. We've agreed that, you know, we're not
• 36:41
  Speaker 6: ready to start seeing other people. But anyway, so the
• 36:44
  Speaker 6: head of Jaguar land Rover has actually come out and
• 36:48
  Speaker 6: this is these ads are getting absolutely buried, right you
• 36:52
  Speaker 6: want to you want to talk about the ratio?
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: These are numbers.
• 36:55
  Speaker 6: They've got quantum physicists, they've got mathematicians from Harvard University,
• 37:00
  Speaker 6: from m I T trying to figure out just how high.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: The ratio is.
• 37:03
  Speaker 6: Anyway, so the head of Jaguar land Rover, his name
• 37:07
  Speaker 6: is Rawd and Glover, which is about it needs an
• 37:10
  Speaker 6: extra hyphen has doubled down, and Hey has said, if
• 37:14
  Speaker 6: we play in the same way that everybody else does,
• 37:17
  Speaker 6: we'll just get drowned out. So we shouldn't turn up
• 37:21
  Speaker 6: like an auto brand. We need to re establish our
• 37:25
  Speaker 6: brand and at a completely different price point, so we
• 37:28
  Speaker 6: need to act differently. We wanted to move away from
• 37:33
  Speaker 6: traditional automotive stereotypes. So now it's not just straight white
• 37:39
  Speaker 6: males that are stereotypes, it's straight white automobiles.
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean they're moving away from stereotypes. They moved
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: away from automobiles altogether.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: But it was worse than that.
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: He accused people of criticizing the ad of quote vile, hatred,
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: and intolerance, a blaze of intolerance to called it. So
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: not only did he offend Jaguar owners, but then Jaguar
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: owners who dared to say, gee, we don't like your ad.
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: That he went further and accused them of being hateful,
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: vile and in toller.
• 38:07
  Speaker 6: Accuse your customers, accuse your customers of being biggots.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Always always come back.
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: Isn't that the same?
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: No, they should smash stereotypes.
• 38:15
  Speaker 6: Why should cars have to have things that we associate
• 38:17
  Speaker 6: with them traditionally, like wheels.
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: On that note, we're going to go to a break
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: when we come back. But look at what's making news tomorrow,
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: including Sydney residents told not to wash their clothes, all
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: their dishes because it's.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: Not enough electricity. Welcome back.
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: Let's check out tomorrow's papers, Joe, You've got the Australian
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: and apparently we're.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: In the middle of a severe heatwave.
• 38:39
  Speaker 6: Yes, Chris Bowen, Yes, well you wouldn't know this, but
• 38:42
  Speaker 6: apparently it was a little bit hot in Sydney today
• 38:45
  Speaker 6: it's a little bit. Yes, in Penrith it is, I
• 38:47
  Speaker 6: believe on fire. It is seriously so hot, especially Western
• 38:50
  Speaker 6: Sydney that copped it in the neck. And this brings
• 38:53
  Speaker 6: us to the question of what we do when it's
• 38:56
  Speaker 6: really hot. Well, the answer, according to Gumman author it is,
• 39:00
  Speaker 6: is not the dishes. The answers. Do not put on
• 39:03
  Speaker 6: the dishruptioner, don't put on your washing machine, don't put
• 39:05
  Speaker 6: on anything energy intensive like you know, air conditioning. Now
• 39:09
  Speaker 6: you're allowed to put on air conditioning, but they say
• 39:11
  Speaker 6: held off doing other appliances. And this, of course has
• 39:14
  Speaker 6: raised a few eyebrows because we are a first world country.
• 39:18
  Speaker 6: Mildly hot major problems is.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: The big pig splash and the OS.
• 39:22
  Speaker 6: Tomorrow, climate Change Minister Chris Bowen will declare renewables are
• 39:26
  Speaker 6: the only solution to the nation's energy wos and put
• 39:28
  Speaker 6: the blame for volatility in the electricity grid on coal
• 39:32
  Speaker 6: fired power stations. After New South Wales residents we're told
• 39:35
  Speaker 6: to avoid using dishwashers, washing machines and pull filter pumps
• 39:38
  Speaker 6: quite important on a hot day what I thought to
• 39:40
  Speaker 6: prevent blackouts, so this is not hugely uncommon on super
• 39:46
  Speaker 6: hot days. We had the former climate change Minister for
• 39:51
  Speaker 6: the coalition, Matt Keane, who I know is a favorite
• 39:54
  Speaker 6: of liberals and conservatives across the nation, but he said
• 39:59
  Speaker 6: the same thing and absolutely copped it. And then strangely
• 40:01
  Speaker 6: the Energy Minister, Penny Sharp went said the same thing,
• 40:04
  Speaker 6: and then Chris Mins said the same thing, but in
• 40:06
  Speaker 6: a much more calm and sensible and handsome fashion. But
• 40:09
  Speaker 6: it has raised questions as to why we do not
• 40:12
  Speaker 6: have enough reliable, secure based load power for people to
• 40:16
  Speaker 6: be able to run their appliances on hot days. And
• 40:19
  Speaker 6: Chris Bowen has come out and said, well, actually this
• 40:21
  Speaker 6: is because two I think it's two coal five power
• 40:24
  Speaker 6: stations were offline because of faults or maintenance. So it's
• 40:28
  Speaker 6: all coal's fault for not working. And of course other
• 40:31
  Speaker 6: people are saying no, it's all renewable's fault because the
• 40:34
  Speaker 6: reason the three to eight pm window is the the
• 40:37
  Speaker 6: boat and zone for using those heavy energy appliances is
• 40:41
  Speaker 6: because that is when solar power starts to die down.
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: I've got to say, I think the headline in the
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: Australian is absolutely right.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: It was mildly hot. It wasn't a severe weak wave.
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: Sure it might have been the nine at Penrith, but
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: at most of Sydney it was around thirty degrees.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: Most of Sydney pretty harm summer.
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: And on top of that for Chris Bow and then
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: to blame coal fired power stations for having maintenance when
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: the governments provide absolutely zero incentive. In fact, they've provided
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: disincentive to keep coal fired power stations well maintained. I
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: mean for him to blame a heat wave and the coal,
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: and especially when and Simon Benson points it out brilliantly
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: in a column on the front page as well, that
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: you know, coal is the cause of climate change and
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: if only we had a bit more coal then now
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: electricity would have been fine today you can't have.
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: I mean we have already have had the blackouts in
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: the CBD yesterday and certain parts of Western Sydney as well.
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: They didn't have power for hours and hours and they
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: were told, oh, it's a really hot day. And then
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: the Osgrid themselves said, actually, this has nothing to do
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: with the fact that.
• 41:51
  Speaker 5: It's a hot day.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: Now the clown show just continues. Right.
• 41:57
  Speaker 6: Well, look, you might think that Chris Bowen's claims are ridiculous,
• 42:00
  Speaker 6: us James I would just say hold my beer, because
• 42:04
  Speaker 6: John Sector has some claims his own. In particular, it
• 42:07
  Speaker 6: is a PTSD compo claim. John Secca, the infamous former
• 42:12
  Speaker 6: head of the Victorian Division of the CFMEU and all
• 42:18
  Speaker 6: round great guy, he has launched since he's been ousted,
• 42:27
  Speaker 6: and you just would not believe this. He has launched
• 42:30
  Speaker 6: a claim for post traumatic stress disorder. He's seeking, i
• 42:34
  Speaker 6: think a four hundred thousand dollars compensation claim for the workers'
• 42:39
  Speaker 6: comp claim, alleging he's suffering post traumatic stress disorder from
• 42:43
  Speaker 6: a deterioration in his mental health while running the Militant
• 42:48
  Speaker 6: Construction Union.
• 42:51
  Speaker 9: At least we like at least they focused on deterioration
• 42:57
  Speaker 9: of other people's physical health rather the mental health had
• 43:01
  Speaker 9: has said to be a side effect of that.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: For PTSD, I thought, oh, gee, did he have to
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: deal with the union? He was running it, that's right.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: How dare you call me a union thug? Word's hurt
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: you know?
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: Feelings to the front bag of the Canberra Times.
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: Now, bullying still haunts Home Affairs staff at Home Affairs
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: have again scored the department worst for bullying and harassment,
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: with new data showing the rate of poor behavior has
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: worse set I.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: Thought to.
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: Say that, like last year, more than half of the
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: perceived bullying went unreported, so at least Home Affairs can say, well,
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: hang on a minute, we thought we were.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: Half that bad.
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: The rest of them just took it on the nose
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: and didn't tell us.
• 43:46
  Speaker 5: But have come out in these.
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: Surveys and for second place in the bullying and harassment.
• 43:51
  Speaker 5: Stakes there's a three way.
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: Tie Ladies and Gentlemen by the Department of Agriculture, the
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade and Department of Veterans Affairs.
• 44:02
  Speaker 5: They have the next highest rate of perceived bullying at
• 44:05
  Speaker 5: twelve percent.
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: Of their employees can I just say, unlucky for the
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: Home Affairs Department to be on the front page of
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: the Canberra Times for bullying where Senator Payment she pursued
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: bump them off the front page and taken number one spot.
• 44:18
  Speaker 6: Let's go to the town I say, just as a
• 44:21
  Speaker 6: public service James and I feel like Australians now just
• 44:24
  Speaker 6: two words class action John Setka and the Canberra bureaucrats.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: Wow, get together, lawyer up.
• 44:31
  Speaker 6: Quite unlikely to take on the Federal Public Service and
• 44:35
  Speaker 6: the CFMU.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: At the same time for their pts.
• 44:39
  Speaker 6: For the PTSD, it just makes sense.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: Nothing would surprise.
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: Let's go to the front page of the Townsville bulletin
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: Mayor's costs to hamm up ratepayers.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: The headline says take us for a ride.
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: Ratepayers will be slogged them extra seventy two thousand dollars
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: as ousted Mayor Troy Thompson, who pretty much features on
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: the front page of the Council.
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: I don't know what they're going to put on their
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: front page.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: As a man is a media's best friend, he's putting his.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: Feet up for twelve months.
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: It can be revealed now for those who aren't familiar
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: Troy Thompson was elected mayor and then after being elected
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: there were claims that he misled voters about his military
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: business and university qualifications.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: There's currently a Crime and.
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: Corruption Commission inquiry into those claims. The state government could
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: have just sacked him. Instead, they've decided to suspend him
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: for twelve months while and investigate. How can investigation take
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: twelve months to work out whether or not he like.
• 45:37
  Speaker 5: He lied about a lot of things.
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: Well, it's allegations, But meanwhile Townsville ratepayers are paying for
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: him to sit and do nothing while this investment, and
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: they're paying.
• 45:45
  Speaker 5: For the investigation.
• 45:48
  Speaker 6: Maybe he's lying about how much money he's getting to
• 45:50
  Speaker 6: do nothing. Let's go to the Gold Coast bulletin now
• 45:53
  Speaker 6: and this is again, this is a story that's kept
• 45:57
  Speaker 6: the nation with baited breath. The state messed up in
• 46:01
  Speaker 6: Molly Magpie saga. Queensland's Department of Environment admits it quote
• 46:05
  Speaker 6: made an error unquote after a bombshell court judgment set
• 46:09
  Speaker 6: aside a special license granted to the Gold Coast Cares
• 46:13
  Speaker 6: of Molly. The Magpie is the latest twist in the
• 46:17
  Speaker 6: Saga of Molly, made famous on social media for its
• 46:20
  Speaker 6: relationship with a dog named Peggy. Call me o fact,
• 46:25
  Speaker 6: I don't believe in cross species relationships.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: That saga continues to unfold.
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: We're going to go to a break. When we come back.
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: The Trump dance taking the world by storm. We might
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: even get Liz and Joe to do a little bit
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: of Trump dancing.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: That's in a moment, all right.
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: Well, who would have guessed that Donald Trump would be
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: responsible for a dance craze list that's gone all around
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: the world.
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: That Donald Trump dance has become an absolute phenomenon, especially
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: now that athletes around the world have taken to performing
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: this after they've done something really cool on.
• 46:56
  Speaker 5: The field or on the court. So one day taken
• 47:00
  Speaker 5: to social media.
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: To help out those who may not be so good
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: at the moves, to give them a step by step
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: play by play for one one on how to pull
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: this off at home. Sure, I love it, I absolutely
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: love it. That kid's got the moves. What he didn't do, though,
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: is put his head down. Trump always puts his head down.
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: If you want to do the authentic og, it's not
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: staring at the camera doing the thing.
• 47:45
  Speaker 5: You've got to put your head down and do it
• 47:48
  Speaker 5: like this.
• 47:48
  Speaker 6: Everybody see, okay, I just want to click that up.
• 47:51
  Speaker 6: You've got to put your head down and do it
• 47:53
  Speaker 6: like this.
• 47:57
  Speaker 5: This is not an R and B song, all right?
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: Sorry, So of the.
• 48:01
  Speaker 6: Three times context, context is important, people, Context is important.
• 48:06
  Speaker 6: There's nothing to do, nothing else, just encourageable. No, I'm
• 48:09
  Speaker 6: terribly sorry. I'm going to clean up my act. No more,
• 48:12
  Speaker 6: no more, double on tundras. This next story is about
• 48:14
  Speaker 6: a woman who was surprised by a giant snake, and
• 48:17
  Speaker 6: they thought I'd be the perfect person to introduce it. Yes,
• 48:21
  Speaker 6: an Australian woman got the fight of her life. When
• 48:23
  Speaker 6: you open a garage door an enormous carpet python, just
• 48:26
  Speaker 6: wait for it, wait for it, wait for it.
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: I would have thought someone was pranking me. How don't
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: you literally fly out at you like, hey, how's it going?
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: It looks like I reckon.
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: She knew there was a snake there, but she just
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: didn't expect them to swing out like that. When we
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: lived in towns Well, we got a snake coiled up
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: in our roller door as well, so I kept going up, down, up, down,
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: up down, trying to get it caught in the gears
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: to kill it. But survived and so can.
• 48:53
  Speaker 6: We mash up James going up down, up down, up
• 48:56
  Speaker 6: down with this store going you.
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: Just that's enough.
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: That's a wrap from us, ladies in gentlemen. I hope
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: the kids are in bed. We apologize for Joe Hildebrand
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: and his explicit content.
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: Hey, thanks for your company tonight. That's all we've got
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: time for. We'll be back tomorrow night. But stick around
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: because coming up in just a moment is to read
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: a Penney show.
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: Good night