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  Speaker 2: This is the Best of Stugatz & Company live on
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  Speaker 1: Show number five today. And Israel Gutierrez is back from
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  Speaker 1: a long weekend. How was it, Izzy?
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  Speaker 3: Very relaxing, Stu. Very relaxing.
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  Speaker 4: If I'm going to start a podcast called Where Izzy,
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  Speaker 4: I have to disappear for a while.
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  Speaker 3: And so we missed you very much. I missed you
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  Speaker 3: very much.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you, man.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Taylor and Mikey, they wanted to be here for radio.
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  Speaker 1: I have told them that radio is no longer their responsibility.
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  Speaker 1: That this is a burden I have to carry after
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  Speaker 1: we do three or four shows every single day. And
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  Speaker 1: I have told the audience that I, you know, crawl
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  Speaker 1: through a river of podcasts just to get to them.
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  Speaker 1: And I would appreciate it if they would call in
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  Speaker 1: 877-99 on Fox for the entire two hours. Say hello
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  Speaker 1: to Izzy. Say hi to me. Talk about whatever the
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  Speaker 1: hell you want to talk about. I will stop whatever
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  Speaker 1: it is I'm doing to take those phone calls. But Izzy,
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  Speaker 1: we did miss you.
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  Speaker 3: They wanted to be here for the entire show today,
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  Speaker 3: and I thought that was a nice touch.
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  Speaker 4: You guys are the best, but I have a question
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  Speaker 4: for Dan Beyer. Dan, are you there?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't see him, though. His computer's not working.
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  Speaker 6: I am here, Izzy.
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  Speaker 1: Nothing's changed, by the way. I mean, you're back from
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  Speaker 1: a long weekend, but everything's the same. That's the same
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  Speaker 1: sandwich that was sitting there the last time you were here.
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  Speaker 4: Well, the smell is definitely the same. I don't know
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  Speaker 4: if I just noticed this or what, but Dan, you
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  Speaker 4: say your name at the end of the update. Is
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  Speaker 4: that just a you thing? Is that a Fox thing?
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  Speaker 4: Or is that an every update person thing? Because I
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  Speaker 4: seem to remember other update people saying their name at
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  Speaker 4: the beginning of the update.
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  Speaker 7: No, that has never happened. It's always at the end.
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  Speaker 3: Interesting.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, because we have a nugget that I've never paid
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  Speaker 4: attention to. But I guess after being away for a
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  Speaker 4: long weekend, it's just something that popped in my head.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you for that, Dan.
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  Speaker 7: It's good to see your midseason form criticizing me again.
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  Speaker 3: That's something that never changed.
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  Speaker 4: It's not a critique. I was just questioning.
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  Speaker 3: Dan Byer not happy that Izzy is back.
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  Speaker 4: I spent my entire time away stewing because I have
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  Speaker 4: never really won the Mount Rushmore Monday.
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  Speaker 3: Do you want to do a Mount Rushmore today? Try
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  Speaker 3: to redeem yourself?
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  Speaker 4: No, not if Dan's here, no.
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  Speaker 6: Why?
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  Speaker 3: Because you know you won't win?
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  Speaker 4: Of course.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, tell her.
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  Speaker 8: Do not give Stu Gatz any idea what the name
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  Speaker 8: stewing right now, because we are in podcast creation mode.
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  Speaker 8: I don't need another podcast called stewing.
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  Speaker 3: I'm thinking about it. You read my mind. All right, guys,
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  Speaker 3: my results are in.
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  Speaker 4: We didn't do a Mount Rushmore, but Izzy is in
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  Speaker 4: fourth right now. Get out of here.
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  Speaker 3: Mute him. Mikey A., how happy are you to see Izzy?
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  Speaker 1: I haven't seen his smile all day, and you're smiling now.
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  Speaker 9: Well, that's mostly because I hate you right now, but
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  Speaker 9: after five shows, it's good that we have Izzy here
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  Speaker 9: with all the trainers he goes to.
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  Speaker 8: He's going to have to do a lot of heavy lifting.
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  Speaker 1: You're going to have to do a lot of heavy
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  Speaker 1: lifting on this show today.
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  Speaker 4: I've been doing chest three days a week.
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  Speaker 10: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Izzy, the platform is yours today. So I don't know
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  Speaker 1: where you want to start and what you want to
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  Speaker 1: talk about and what takes you've been sitting on. I
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  Speaker 1: know you, you know, you went to University of Florida.
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  Speaker 1: They have a big game against Mississippi.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: But again, we will start wherever you want to start.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like asking you about every basketball transaction that's
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  Speaker 1: happened since the last time you were in here.
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  Speaker 3: But where would you like to start?
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  Speaker 4: Well, before I get to what I want to talk about,
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  Speaker 4: does anybody want to talk about that Thursday night football
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  Speaker 4: game yesterday? Is Michael Penix Jr. anything worth noting, or
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  Speaker 4: should we just move on?
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  Speaker 1: I think he's definitely worth noting. The Falcons look like
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  Speaker 1: a different team.
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  Speaker 3: They look like a good team.
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  Speaker 1: We were making the joke that there are guys who
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  Speaker 1: are starting in the NFL right now that would quit
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  Speaker 1: their current situation just to be in that situation.
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  Speaker 3: Quarterbacks. Yeah. So Penix looked good. He was good enough.
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  Speaker 1: They're talented enough on offense where if they just have
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  Speaker 1: a competent quarterback, and that's what he was last night,
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  Speaker 1: and hopefully he'll get better. But if they have that,
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  Speaker 1: then that offense is going to be very, very good.
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  Speaker 3: Don't you agree?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I've said this for a long time. Well,
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  Speaker 4: for as long as they've had these guys. But Drake London, B.
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  Speaker 4: John Robinson, those guys. are so good, as long as
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  Speaker 4: you give your quarterback a seemingly competent quarterback, any sort
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  Speaker 4: of protection, you should be able to have one of
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  Speaker 4: the better offenses in the league. That said, I didn't
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  Speaker 4: watch much of it. I think it was at 10-7,
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  Speaker 4: where my internet was busted yesterday, and I was watching
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  Speaker 4: TV off of... you know, how you use your phone
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  Speaker 4: for a hotspot or whatever, and it was just not
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  Speaker 4: that fluid, so I just decided to watch something else.
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  Speaker 4: But when I saw the final score after my Wi-Fi
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  Speaker 4: came back on, I was shocked.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: And I just don't understand Jordan Love, LeFleur, and that
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  Speaker 4: whole Packers team.
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  Speaker 3: I thought they were supposed.
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  Speaker 8: To be good.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: LeFleur is overrated.
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  Speaker 1: Jordan Love is probably overrated. I'm tired of hearing about
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  Speaker 1: them headed into every single season, and yet they do.
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  Speaker 3: That last night.
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  Speaker 1: Like, enough of LeFleur. And enough of Jordan Love. It's
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  Speaker 1: just that Packer team is not very good. And for
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  Speaker 1: LeFleur to be so confused and can't figure out as
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  Speaker 1: to what happened last night.
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  Speaker 3: That's not what you want to hear from your head
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  Speaker 3: coach after the game. Yeah, Mikey.
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  Speaker 9: I'm just saying, if the Jets could pick up a
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  Speaker 9: fourth and one, the Packers are 0-3. That's the story.
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  Speaker 10: I know.
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  Speaker 9: Bajon Robinson is the fireworks, but the story... Packers are
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  Speaker 9: really freaking bad.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I have gotten over that jet loss until
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  Speaker 1: I watched the game last night.
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  Speaker 3: Did you have the same reaction? Exactly. I was like, no,
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  Speaker 3: now this makes me feel worse.
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  Speaker 4: You guys should absolutely be 2-0. I don't understand how
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  Speaker 4: they lost that game. I flipped that game and all
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  Speaker 4: of a sudden they're in overtime and they're losing that one.
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  Speaker 4: I do have one more NFL note before I get
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  Speaker 4: to everything that I really want to talk about. I
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  Speaker 4: just want to plant my flag here. Everybody's down on
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  Speaker 4: Justin Herbert, right?
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  Speaker 3: That's kind of the going... you know, opinion. Taylor's kind
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  Speaker 3: of the president.
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  Speaker 8: We are leading the charge.
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  Speaker 1: I would say everyone, but Phil Sims who joined us
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  Speaker 1: on one of the five shows we did today.
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  Speaker 3: And he loves Justin Herbert.
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  Speaker 8: Is he Stugat said he wouldn't be surprised if Madison
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  Speaker 8: beer called off the engagement.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't say that.
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  Speaker 8: You didn't observations.
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  Speaker 6: They're yours.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know who to put this on, whether it's
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  Speaker 4: Mike McDaniel, whether it's just as offensive line or, I
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  Speaker 4: don't know. Just the fact that they don't have the
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  Speaker 4: right skill position players. But I'm telling you, he has
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  Speaker 4: not lost it. Some people might say he never had it,
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  Speaker 4: but he has not lost it. I still think he
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  Speaker 4: is actually very, very good. And I mean, I don't
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  Speaker 4: know who it was, but somebody went through all of
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  Speaker 4: his skill position players drops. You know, you have that
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  Speaker 4: one famous one where somebody came and defended his own
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  Speaker 4: receivers play and knocked that one down. And it was
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  Speaker 4: just there are so many things going wrong with that
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  Speaker 4: team right now, it feels like. that they're all just
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  Speaker 4: taking it out on Justin Herbert, I still have faith
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  Speaker 4: in that man.
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  Speaker 1: Phil Simms said that, you know, if you lined up
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  Speaker 1: all the quarterbacks, essentially, many teams would have Justin Herbert.
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  Speaker 3: Like they would die to have him right.
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  Speaker 1: He would be in their top five quarterbacks that they
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  Speaker 1: would want to be the quarterback of their team. But
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  Speaker 1: you have to win at some point, don't you? Like
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  Speaker 1: if you're that talented, I understand the talent. We all
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  Speaker 1: see it. We could all see it in spurts. But
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  Speaker 1: eventually you have to be a guy that's going to
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  Speaker 1: help your team win.
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  Speaker 3: Right. Yeah, I agreed.
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  Speaker 4: And I think, you know, at some point, everything has
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  Speaker 4: got to come together for him for that to happen.
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  Speaker 4: And normally you've got these great, great quarterbacks that can
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  Speaker 4: lift their teams through anything. I'm just saying it feels
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  Speaker 4: like things internally are working against Justin Herbert, at least
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  Speaker 4: so far this season.
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  Speaker 8: One of the quarterbacks you wouldn't take or you would
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  Speaker 8: take over Justin Herbert, Stu, Josh Allen, who the Chargers
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  Speaker 8: play this week. So it's not getting any easier for
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  Speaker 8: the Chargers.
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  Speaker 10: Right.
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  Speaker 1: A must win game. And you have to face Josh Allen,
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  Speaker 1: who's 2-0 and playing better. than any quarterback in the
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  Speaker 1: NFL right now.
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  Speaker 4: It's a matchup of quarterbacks with celebrity.
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  Speaker 8: Wives, right?
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  Speaker 3: Yes. But Justin Herbert's, you know, his should leave him.
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  Speaker 3: That was Taylor. I didn't say that. I'm just telling
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  Speaker 3: you what Taylor told me to say.
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  Speaker 8: And just to be clear, I think no disrespect to
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  Speaker 8: Madison Beer. Haley Steinfeld's in a league of her own
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  Speaker 8: in terms of celebrity.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 3: You did the whole no disrespect.
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  Speaker 1: No disrespect, but I'm going to disrespect you in two seconds.
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  Speaker 8: Madison Beer, probably like a B minus celebrity.
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  Speaker 3: What is she known for?
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  Speaker 2: Hmm.
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  Speaker 4: Good question. So maybe a C minus.
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  Speaker 3: Put it on the poll, Taylor. Do you know what
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  Speaker 3: Madison Beer is known for?
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  Speaker 8: Can you ask what somebody's famous for? And then there'd
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  Speaker 8: be a four second pause where nobody has an answer.
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  Speaker 4: So you're definitely right on that. Josh Salad has the
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  Speaker 4: more famous wife.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm going to stick to the NFL here because
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  Speaker 4: I'm curious.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, look at this guy. He comes back from
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  Speaker 3: a long weekend. All of a sudden he wants to
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  Speaker 3: talk a little football. We're good.
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  Speaker 4: It's been multiple weeks of football since I left. And
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  Speaker 4: one of the things that has just been kind of
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  Speaker 4: painful for me is I've actually watched these Dolphins games.
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  Speaker 4: And it's just awful. And I'm not even going to
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  Speaker 4: talk about what they're doing this year. But I'm wondering
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  Speaker 4: if Dolphins fans are nervous about the fact that they're tanking.
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  Speaker 3: For a quarterback.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, some people would say, Jim, maybe
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  Speaker 4: Jeremiah Smith, nobody's tanking for a wide receiver, so it's
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  Speaker 4: got to be a quarterback, right?
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: Because are they going to get it right? Are they
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  Speaker 4: going to get it right? Is it, Mikey, help me
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  Speaker 4: out here, is it Arch Manning above all? Because I
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  Speaker 4: don't really see that, especially after, you know, last season
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  Speaker 4: and the first part of this season.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 4: Is it, you know, Moore and Dante Moore in Oregon?
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  Speaker 4: Because I don't love him as a franchise changer anymore.
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  Speaker 3: Is it Ole Miss quarterback, Trinidad Chambliss?
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  Speaker 10: Right.
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  Speaker 4: Because he is probably the best, I don't know, total
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  Speaker 4: package dual. threat type of guy, but I see a
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  Speaker 4: lot of flaws in his game, and who knows exactly
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  Speaker 4: how he's going to translate. In fact, hang on, I'm
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  Speaker 4: going to need his name for a second. Is it Taylor,
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  Speaker 4: Camario Taylor?
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  Speaker 3: Camario Taylor.
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  Speaker 4: Camario Taylor at Mississippi State.
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  Speaker 3: Future Kane, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: But he's not draft eligible this year, so it just
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  Speaker 4: makes you wonder, like, Are the Dolphins going to tank
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  Speaker 4: and just bomb with this quarterback pick? Is it going
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  Speaker 4: to be another situation where it's just like, great, we
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  Speaker 4: were terrible for another year, and we've got nothing out
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  Speaker 4: of it? Because Arch Manning is probably where your fingers
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  Speaker 4: are crossed saying, okay, he is the guy who will
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  Speaker 4: most likely turn out just based on his last name
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  Speaker 4: and the odds of the other Mannings that have been
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  Speaker 4: in the NFL?
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  Speaker 6: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: But, man, that is certainly not a sure thing. It's
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  Speaker 4: not like tanking in the NBA for LeBron James or
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  Speaker 4: Tim Duncan. Like, this is a huge question mark.
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  Speaker 6: Agreed.
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  Speaker 9: Arch Manning is a really good quarterback. He's a really,
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  Speaker 9: really good quarterback, but he's number one status is based
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  Speaker 9: on the name on the back of his Jersey. So
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  Speaker 9: if you were to take Trinidad Chambliss and you have
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  Speaker 9: him take his Jersey off, you put Arch Manning's Jersey
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  Speaker 9: on Trinidad Chambliss is going first.
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  Speaker 4: That's what's going to happen.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't, again, I don't, I don't know
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  Speaker 4: what it is about Dante more that I don't love.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe it's just his frame. Maybe it's just the fact
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  Speaker 4: that he hasn't won the bigger games. I'm not sure.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not convinced that any Oregon quarterback really But yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it's just, it makes me very, very nervous. And I'll
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  Speaker 4: live with Arch Manning just for the excitement of it.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, hey, we got a Manning. The name, yes.
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  Speaker 4: But I'll be absolutely terrified if he goes on to have,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know, a three-loss season, gets hit a bunch
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  Speaker 4: like he did last week against an inferior opponent, and
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  Speaker 4: then comes into the league with all these expectations.
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  Speaker 3: Man, I just don't know.
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  Speaker 8: Izzy, you mentioned a bunch of quarterbacks that the Dolphins
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  Speaker 8: could target in the draft. One quarterback you didn't mention.
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  Speaker 8: What if I told you if you wanted a quarterback
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  Speaker 8: on the Miami Dolphins, you might not even have to
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  Speaker 8: leave the 305 because right in Hard Rock Stadium, the
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  Speaker 8: Miami Hurricanes, Darian Mensah has gone from Tulane to Duke
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  Speaker 8: to Miami, and every year he looks like a better
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  Speaker 8: and better quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think to Izzy's point, you have no
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  Speaker 1: idea if it's going to translate to the NFL, and
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  Speaker 1: this is the year the Dolphins have decided to tank,
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  Speaker 1: and they're doing it the right way.
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  Speaker 3: They're not even trying to win games. It doesn't feel like.
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  Speaker 3: And so they might have one win. They might have two.
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  Speaker 3: They might have no wins.
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  Speaker 12: Who knows?
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  Speaker 3: But Izzy doesn't feel like.
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  Speaker 1: There's a quarterback that's such a surefire thing that this
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  Speaker 1: is the right season to tank, you know?
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  Speaker 4: Izzy, you.
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  Speaker 9: you watch all these dolphins games so let me ask
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  Speaker 9: you the question is malik willis the problem like are
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  Speaker 9: you going to get a quarterback and all of a
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  Speaker 9: sudden you're like oh we're good now or is that
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  Speaker 9: just a really bad team with a quarterback who we
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  Speaker 9: have no idea how good he can be because that team.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like malik is doing exactly what they signed
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  Speaker 1: them for losing football games he's the mvp I don't.
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  Speaker 4: Love Malik Willis.
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  Speaker 3: Like, he's OK.
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  Speaker 4: He doesn't make great decisions. He's not like extremely athletic or,
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  Speaker 4: you know, great out of the pocket. I think he
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  Speaker 4: probably thinks he's better because sometimes he makes some choices
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  Speaker 4: to roll out where I'm just like, no, no, this
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  Speaker 4: play is over. What are you doing? But Darian Mensah
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  Speaker 4: was on my list. And that's just one of those
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  Speaker 4: where is the hometown team really going to do that? Like,
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  Speaker 4: are they going to this whole, you know, restructuring of
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  Speaker 4: the of the front office, of the coaching staff?
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  Speaker 3: And, you know, being terrible.
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  Speaker 4: For a full year just to fall in love with
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  Speaker 4: the local guy where the rest of the country is
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  Speaker 4: going to be like, ha, these idiots.
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  Speaker 3: Izzy, earlier I.
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  Speaker 8: Was trying to make the point that the Dolphins might
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  Speaker 8: be getting the Cam Cameron season where. If Jeff Halfley
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  Speaker 8: goes 0-17, Stu Gatz was making the argument that Jeff
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  Speaker 8: Halfley's trying to go 0-17. Coach of the year, if
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  Speaker 8: he does it, yes. No head coach is trying to
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  Speaker 8: go 0-17. And I get that this is a rebuild
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  Speaker 8: project for the Miami Dolphins, but I don't know how
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  Speaker 8: you can convince a fan base you have the right
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  Speaker 8: coach if he can't even stumble into a win and
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  Speaker 8: he goes 0-17.
• 13:54
  Speaker 4: I don't think I got to tell you guys this.
• 13:55
  Speaker 4: I was still here when practices were starting, but... This
• 14:00
  Speaker 4: is when I recognize that I don't know if I
• 14:02
  Speaker 4: like the head coach either, because literally the first day
• 14:06
  Speaker 4: of practice and I don't know which starter it was
• 14:08
  Speaker 4: because the person who told me this wouldn't tell me
• 14:10
  Speaker 4: which starter it was.
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 14:11
  Speaker 4: But there was a projected starter on the team that
• 14:13
  Speaker 4: got hurt the first day of practice. Nothing long term,
• 14:16
  Speaker 4: nothing serious, but got hurt the first day of practice
• 14:18
  Speaker 4: while they were practicing practice.
• 14:21
  Speaker 3: Field goal blocks.
• 14:23
  Speaker 4: What are you doing on the first day of practice
• 14:25
  Speaker 4: using your projected starters to attempt to block field goals,
• 14:30
  Speaker 4: which happens how often? I mean, I know it happened
• 14:31
  Speaker 4: last night, I think, but how often?
• 14:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's ridiculous. What you're trying to do is go 0-17.
• 14:35
  Speaker 4: Apparently, you're trying to get your whole starting lineup injured.
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: All right, listeners, listen to me.
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: I don't want to yell at you. I am telling you,
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: we have done three shows, four shows already, okay? God
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: bless football, college football, Woods to Gods and Bear. I
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: think with Stugatz and Hawk, Stugatz and company, Mikey A
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: and I had an argument. He doesn't believe that we
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: get phone calls. He doesn't think we can get phone
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: calls because we're not on Sirius XM. And I still
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: believe in AM radio. And so I want phone calls
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: for the next two hours.
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: That's all I want to do.
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: I want to talk to Izzy, and we want to
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: talk to you. 877-99 on Fox, and I don't care
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: what it is you want to talk about.
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: 877-99 on Fox.
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: That is 877-99 on Fox.
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of Stu Gatz and
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: Company live weekdays at 3 p.m. Eastern, 12 p.m. Pacific
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: 877-99 on Fox. Israel Gutierrez is back. He's made us
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: all happy. I could sit there and watch you and
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: Taylor do my radio show for the rest of time.
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: We'll get to the calls here in just a second.
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: But Izzy, while you were away on your long weekend here,
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: Taylor fell apart. A couple of different times, as did I,
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: by the way, because we missed you that much, as
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: did Mikey.
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: We all missed you.
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: But Taylor, you want to set these up? Because I
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: went into the room before and I said, hey, were
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: there any flubs you can remember that Taylor made? Not me,
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: just Taylor. since the last time Izzy was here, and
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: there were two that stood out to Taylor.
• 16:10
  Speaker 8: Yeah, so Izzy, we did a celebrity guest picker parlay,
• 16:15
  Speaker 8: plus 277, and Steve Spurrier was our celebrity guest picker parlay.
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: It hit.
• 16:21
  Speaker 8: And it hit. It hit, courtesy of our friends over
• 16:24
  Speaker 8: at FanDuel. And as I was talking about it, I
• 16:28
  Speaker 8: was trying to say the old ball coach, Steve Spurrier,
• 16:32
  Speaker 8: And this is what came out instead. To get the
• 16:34
  Speaker 8: all boat. Hold the phone.
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: You had Steve Sperrier on?
• 16:43
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: Well, no, he did a, you know, celebrity parlay for us.
• 16:47
  Speaker 8: He just made four picks for us.
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: Also, I was going to say, because if he was on,
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: even if you did get the old ball coach out,
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: he would say, no, no, it's the head ball coach.
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: It's not the old ball coach, which is what people
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: turn to after a while, but it's the head ball coach.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: He doesn't like to be called old. How would he
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: respond to this, though?
• 17:05
  Speaker 8: To get the old bull. The old bull.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: It sounded like you were going to say the old
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: bull or the old bulk.
• 17:14
  Speaker 8: That was me hearing it halfway through, Izzy, and going...
• 17:18
  Speaker 8: Halfway through, you could hear in my head the wheels
• 17:22
  Speaker 8: turning saying, this is not going well.
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: One more time.
• 17:27
  Speaker 8: To get the all bowl. The all bowl. The all
• 17:29
  Speaker 8: bowl team.
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: All right, the second one, I believe it was Express Pros.
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: Is that right, Taylor?
• 17:37
  Speaker 9: No.
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: That's a tough one, man.
• 17:39
  Speaker 8: No, it was the Weeble.
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, Weeble.
• 17:43
  Speaker 8: Get your financial portfolio game ready is what I was
• 17:46
  Speaker 8: supposed to say. Izzy was also a day that we
• 17:49
  Speaker 8: were supposed to have Sal Licata, and Sal was having
• 17:52
  Speaker 8: technical issues.
• 17:53
  Speaker 10: Yes.
• 17:53
  Speaker 8: So then I had to talk more in the episode.
• 17:55
  Speaker 10: Right.
• 17:56
  Speaker 8: And as I got to the read, again, I'm just
• 17:58
  Speaker 8: running on E here, and this is the Weeble read.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: It's time to.
• 18:03
  Speaker 8: Get your point... It's time to get your... Get.
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: Your punt.
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: I'm always there for you.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: He is so tired. I'm so tired. He can't speak.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: I can't speak. And I'm just laughing at him.
• 18:19
  Speaker 8: It's time to get your punt. It's time to get your....
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: I was thinking about getting a pint of beer.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: It is tough.
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: It is like you really have to have the lips
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: ready for get your portfolio game ready. It's just, you
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: can't just be lazy with the mouth at that point.
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: Right, but how about the old ball coach? The old ball.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: Should just roll right out of the tongue, no?
• 18:42
  Speaker 8: To get the old ball. It hurts.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: It's like I'm being punched.
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry to do that to you, Taylor. I will
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: never leave you again. That's false.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: That's false. Please don't.
• 18:58
  Speaker 6: Oh, gosh.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: Taylor, I'm sorry I did that to you. You're tired.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: I'm tired. Mikey A is tired. Mikey is questioning whether
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: or not.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: You're not sorry at all. All right. So let's move
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: on here. Israel, how is softball going with Taylor?
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: You should know that my career batting average remains at
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: triple zeros.
• 19:20
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: But that's because I haven't played softball since. What I've
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: only realized recently, because I don't know, I guess Anthony
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: doesn't share as much information with me as he should.
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: is how many of my folks are on this team. Like,
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: he's got this new team, and instead of me, he
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: brought in a bunch of all-stars.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: Yes, he brought your friends in who are good.
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: Guys who are in our football league still. Taylor no
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: longer in that league. And yeah, they're doing great. And apparently,
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: I think Taylor's line to me was, when Ian and
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: myself are the two worst hitters on a softball team
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: you got a great team and i'm just like wow
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: i'm so glad everybody misses me over there is if
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: it makes.
• 19:55
  Speaker 8: You feel better we have your jersey hanging up in the.
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: No you don't no you don't because that would make
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: me feel way worse you were lying i'm so proud
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: of you.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: Because they'll never know he's never going back to that
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: diamond again no.
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: And not only that i think you guys have actual
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: like softball uniform or at least jerseys now right.
• 20:13
  Speaker 8: Yeah we've upgraded major and we've also done a pool
• 20:16
  Speaker 8: that we have a group chat where they were like
• 20:18
  Speaker 8: everybody if you want to put in ten dollars and
• 20:20
  Speaker 8: whoever has the highest on base percentage at the end
• 20:23
  Speaker 8: of the season we'll get the money in the pool
• 20:26
  Speaker 8: me and ian looked at each other and go we
• 20:27
  Speaker 8: can't hit so we're definitely not entering.
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: This pool Is there a minimum at bats there? Because
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: I can come in as a free agent one week
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: and just take a walk and then just quit for
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: the rest of the game. And my on-base percentage is
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: a thousand.
• 20:40
  Speaker 8: This is probably like getting into like the rookie of
• 20:42
  Speaker 8: the year or the MVP conversation where it's like, you
• 20:45
  Speaker 8: need a minimum 80 games to qualify.
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: No, but Izzy needs one. He needs one at bat
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: and the perfect season for you. I kind of do
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: want to come in and just get a hit.
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: Like just come in for one game and just be like, Hey,
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: Do they have DH?
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: Let me catch whatever. Let me get one hit.
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: That's just so I can say that I've gotten a
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: hit in my career.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: Just a hit because you're 0 for your lifetime. How
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: many games do you think that would take? Just the one, Mikey.
• 21:05
  Speaker 6: Shut up.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: He's 0 for a lifetime, and yet he thinks he
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: would come back in one game.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: Suddenly he's Babe Ruth.
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: I would actually prepare as opposed to just showing up
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: completely cold. Let's go out to Connor, who's in Syracuse today.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: Connor, go ahead. You're on Fox Sports Radio.
• 21:20
  Speaker 6: All right, guys. I really like your show.
• 21:23
  Speaker 8: It's really good.
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: Thank you. Appreciate it.
• 21:27
  Speaker 10: There was a call earlier that said that Patrick Mahomes
• 21:30
  Speaker 10: is better than Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson, but Patrick
• 21:33
  Speaker 10: Mahomes also has had a better defense, a better coaching staff,
• 21:37
  Speaker 10: and a better front office than Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson.
• 21:40
  Speaker 6: Have ever had.
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: I mean, Lamar Jackson had John Horbaugh. I mean, which,
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: you know, to his credit, that was probably a detriment
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: to him. Look, I think Patrick Mahomes is... gets overrated
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: because when he was at his best he was absolutely
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: spectacular but has not been especially good since about 2022
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: right we've all just been granting him top of the
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: league status he has all the ability in the world
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: i would you know in terms of football iq i
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: don't know if there's a better uh player in the
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: league but he has not been great great like top
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: of the league great since about 2022 so yeah i
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: think would i rather have josh allen or patrick mahomes
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: this year i probably fast forward to the end of
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: the year and i'll tell you the answer to that
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: which is cheating But I do think that, you know,
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: appeared out.
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Mikey.
• 22:31
  Speaker 9: Forgive me if I'm wrong here, but Baltimore Ravens and
• 22:33
  Speaker 9: defense kind of go hand in hand. I believe they
• 22:36
  Speaker 9: had the top scoring defense in 23, the third top
• 22:40
  Speaker 9: scoring defense in 22, the second top scoring defense in 2020.
• 22:45
  Speaker 9: When did Lamar Jackson not have a defense?
• 22:48
  Speaker 10: Right.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: Fair.
• 22:49
  Speaker 8: But to that caller's point, I do think a lot
• 22:51
  Speaker 8: of being a quarterback in the NFL is situational. Like
• 22:54
  Speaker 8: If Josh Allen had the benefit of having Andy Reid,
• 22:57
  Speaker 8: Tyreek Hill, and Travis Kelsey, now Dalton Kincaid is turning
• 23:01
  Speaker 8: into something, maybe Travis Kelsey light. But if you gave
• 23:05
  Speaker 8: Josh Allen those weapons, that's why it's unfair to compare
• 23:08
  Speaker 8: quarterback situations sometimes because it's apples to oranges.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: You could also say those last two Super Bowl victories
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: for Mahomes.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: I mean, the defense was really.
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: It was spags.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: It was that credit pie.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, the defense helped them win two additional titles.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's a big deal. I think that's what
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: the callers say. I mean, these other quarterbacks don't have
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: some of the things that Patrick Mahomes has had early
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: on in his career.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: That's fair, right?
• 23:30
  Speaker 6: It is.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: And, you know, again, he still won without Tyree kill,
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: but he still had all those other advantages.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: He had the defense.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 23:37
  Speaker 8: And also, don't forget the time that he had the
• 23:39
  Speaker 8: field advantage to that first one against The Eagles, Ed
• 23:42
  Speaker 8: Mangum screwed everybody.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: Yes. Patrick Mahomes is back, right?
• 23:46
  Speaker 7: Is he?
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: I mean, he's back. It seems like it.
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: I mean, he's going to have another great week against
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: the Dolphins this week. And so probably that conversation will
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: continue until he decides to have a stinker.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: Taylor, put it on the poll. If Jeff Halfley and
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: the Dolphins go 0-17, should he win coach of the year?
• 24:01
  Speaker 8: Or get fired.
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: The rare coach of the year that gets fired. How
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: about that?
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: Two extremes with Halfway.
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: Let's go to Ron, who's in California today. Ron, go ahead.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: You're on Fox Sports Radio.
• 24:17
  Speaker 6: Ron?
• 24:20
  Speaker 12: Can you hear me?
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: Yes, we can hear you, Ron.
• 24:22
  Speaker 12: Hello?
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 24:25
  Speaker 12: Yeah, man, I just want to say happy Friday. NFL
• 24:28
  Speaker 12: is back, baby. But I want to talk about my ratings.
• 24:33
  Speaker 6: All right.
• 24:34
  Speaker 12: I do like the fact that we're 2-0, and, you know,
• 24:37
  Speaker 12: I'm happy with what I'm seeing on the field, you know,
• 24:40
  Speaker 12: watching Jim T. March up the field and Kirk Cousins
• 24:43
  Speaker 12: putting in work. But, you know, we still got a
• 24:45
  Speaker 12: long road ahead of us, you know, because after the Saints, hey,
• 24:48
  Speaker 12: it's showtime. You know, we got the Chiefs. You know,
• 24:51
  Speaker 12: we have the Patriots, the Bills, and then L.A. Jets
• 24:54
  Speaker 12: I'm pretty confident about. But right after that, we go
• 24:56
  Speaker 12: right back to working hard against San Francisco. So, you know,
• 25:01
  Speaker 12: I like what I see. But, hey, we still got
• 25:03
  Speaker 12: some work to do.
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: Still got some improvement.
• 25:05
  Speaker 12: You know, it's still early in the season. I like
• 25:07
  Speaker 12: what QBX is doing as a smart coach, you know,
• 25:10
  Speaker 12: for our offense.
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: For you, are you underwater? I'm a truck.
• 25:17
  Speaker 12: Driver, so I'm in my truck.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: Okay, respect. Respect to you. I'm sorry. I apologize to you,
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: and keep up the fine work, sir. My apologies.
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: I will say this about the Raiders. I think it
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: is great to see, you know, Kirk Cousins doing his thing.
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: It's kind of like the, so far, probably the, I
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: don't know, the most fun success story so far of
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: the early NFL season. I do really want to see
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: Fernando Mendoza, though.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: I don't know if you've seen him.
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: Have you seen that his latest thing is he's given
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: financial advice?
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: Like, we need more Fernando Mendozas.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: In the world.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: I love him, but you're not going to see him
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: as long as they're in playoff contention. You're not going
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: to see him. By the way, that caller just assumed
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: they're going to beat the Saints this weekend.
• 25:58
  Speaker 8: Stugatz, that's exactly what I was going to say. Because
• 26:01
  Speaker 8: he went right to the Chiefs and the Patriots. Mikey, Raiders,
• 26:05
  Speaker 8: Saints this weekend? I think this is a something has
• 26:08
  Speaker 8: to give game because the Raiders are coming in hot
• 26:10
  Speaker 8: and we got Tyler shuck on the other side.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: It's also a who's who. I mean, I called it.
• 26:15
  Speaker 8: We're going to find out who's the fraud game.
• 26:17
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: But he just blew right past the saints as if
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: it's a victory for the Raiders.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: You're not going to see Mendoza.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: I don't think as long as they're in contention and
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: Kirk cousins is playing well, and he.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: Was very good last week.
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: It was okay.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: In week one, He was very good last week. I
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: don't think you're going to see Mendoza.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: That's fine with me.
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: We didn't see Patrick Mahomes his first season either. But, yeah,
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: going back to the Saints, is Olave going to make
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: the Guardian helmet cool? because that guy's having a heck
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: of a start to this year, and it still looks crazy.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: It still looks crazy to me.
• 26:52
  Speaker 8: I'm trying to think what the situation would have to be,
• 26:54
  Speaker 8: but I'm with Mikey on this one. Like, I get it.
• 26:57
  Speaker 8: The Guardian cap is, if it makes even a little
• 27:00
  Speaker 8: bit safer, I'm all for people wearing the Guardian cap.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: I don't think we get it, and I don't think
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: you get it. It makes you safer by a lot.
• 27:07
  Speaker 8: By a lot. Let me see the numbers by a lot.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: The data?
• 27:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 27:11
  Speaker 8: All of a sudden you're coming up with medical claims
• 27:13
  Speaker 8: over here with all your research and your data.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying no one would dare look that ridiculous
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: on a football field if it didn't make them a
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: lot safer.
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: Speaking of injuries.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: I know you guys talked about it. Caleb Williamson, remind
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: me what your guys' response was to his reaction to
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: his injury.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: We'd rather have Jackson Dort.
• 27:37
  Speaker 8: I think our official show stance, Izzy, was we agree
• 27:41
  Speaker 8: that he got hurt, but you cannot take the cart
• 27:45
  Speaker 8: ride for a grade one hamstring strain.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: Okay. All right.
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: So the part with him getting hurt, first of all,
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: the main reason I thought it was an Achilles injury
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: is because he looked back, right, as.
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: He's making the cut, right?
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: And so that's famously everybody thinks that they get kicked
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: when they have an Achilles injury.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: So I was like, oh, no.
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: That's an Achilles. He must've looked back to see who
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: hit him. And it wasn't that.
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: And he wasn't touched, right?
• 28:10
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: Cause he wasn't touched. Now he was clearly to me anyway,
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: just ridiculously frustrated. Like at that moment, no matter what
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: the injury is, he knew he was going to miss time.
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: And for somebody who has all of these stakes, I mean,
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: probably MVP stakes, like career type of stakes, like bringing,
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: you know, the Chicago bears back into the elite of
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: the league. Like that's so frustrating. Like I held like a, whatever,
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: I don't know, who howls? I howled like.
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: Something who howls the other day.
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: When we got rained out from a flag football game
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: because I want to play as long as I can.
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: This guy got hurt and realized, oh no, this is
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: going to suck for me. Whether I'm out two weeks,
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: five weeks, whatever, this sucks. Oh, can everybody else hear
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: me yelling?
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: My bad.
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: You guys should have not been so quiet. But the
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: cart thing cracks me up. Because, Stu, when you play golf,
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: you walk in or you're in the cart?
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: In the cart.
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: Exactly.
• 29:02
  Speaker 11: Walking.
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: Everybody here would take a cart ride. to their car
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: in this parking lot if it got offered to them.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: 100%.
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: Because why the heck not? And on top of it,
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: if you've got a hamstring injury, you probably just don't
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: want to be walking. Now, if people want to criticize
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: him for it looked like he was crying, the towel
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: was covering his face, whatever. What do you want him
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: to do? Point to his hamstring and be like, it's okay.
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: It's just this.
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: I'm okay. Like, whatever. Everybody's taking a cart. if they
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: wanted to. Jackson Dart not taking one was idiotic.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: It was idiotic. You got a knee injury. Get on
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: the cart. Take a ride to the locker room.
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but he's a gamer.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: I mean, please. doesn't play in games.
• 29:43
  Speaker 9: Izzy, he gave the fist pump like when guys have
• 29:47
  Speaker 9: to immobilize their neck because we're worried about them being paralyzed.
• 29:51
  Speaker 9: And he was like, and they give the thumbs up
• 29:53
  Speaker 9: just to let you know, hey, I can still feel
• 29:55
  Speaker 9: my limbs.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: And he was like, I'm going to be.
• 29:58
  Speaker 8: Dude, he got the same.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: Injury I get mowing the lawn.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, but Mikey, we need Izzy's opinion and
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: reasonable thoughts around here.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: Otherwise, it's the three of us saying we'd rather have
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: Jackson Dort.
• 30:10
  Speaker 9: Mikey, nobody is happier Izzy is here than me living
• 30:14
  Speaker 9: in a world of Taylor and Stugatzes, okay?
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: Nobody is happier.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: But at the same time, That was ridiculous.
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: But, Mikey, what would you have wanted him to do? Like,
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: do you want him to give, like, a half thumb
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: and just be like, oh, it's not that. He wants
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: him to walk off.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: Walk off.
• 30:30
  Speaker 11: No.
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: Walk off. You want him to walk off. And that's
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: going to make you feel better about what? If you're
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: a Chicago Bears fan, if he's walking off, it's going
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: to make you feel better about what?
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: His toughness.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: I mean.
• 30:42
  Speaker 9: There isn't a player in the NFL either on his
• 30:45
  Speaker 9: team or against him that isn't looking at him side-eye like, dude,
• 30:49
  Speaker 9: you took a cart.
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: For a hamstring.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but then you see Tyson Bajan and you're like, man,
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: please come back.
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: I mean, we need you.
• 30:58
  Speaker 8: Tyson Bajan also hurt.
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: Special Bajan.
• 31:00
  Speaker 8: It's supposed to be Case Keenum this week now.
• 31:02
  Speaker 6: What? Yeah.
• 31:04
  Speaker 8: Izzy, you sound like a Bears fan right now because
• 31:06
  Speaker 8: Bears fans are very defensive this week about Caleb Williams.
• 31:10
  Speaker 8: And Big Cat, a friend of the show from part
• 31:13
  Speaker 8: of my take, Stu, he offered a take that I
• 31:15
  Speaker 8: don't think I've heard anybody say.
• 31:17
  Speaker 6: All right.
• 31:17
  Speaker 8: He said, what if Caleb Williams is just Wolverine with
• 31:20
  Speaker 8: healing ability where that injury was that bad, but Caleb
• 31:23
  Speaker 8: Williams is so superhuman that he's already healed up.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: So the reaction in the moment was the correct reaction
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: because he actually was feeling that bad.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: But by the time he was being carted off the field,
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: it had healed.
• 31:34
  Speaker 8: It had healed already.
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: Do you think it was Caleb Williams requesting a cart
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: or do you think the team sent a cart and
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: he's like, OK, whatever?
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: I think the team set the course.
• 31:42
  Speaker 8: Exactly.
• 31:43
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: I don't care.
• 31:45
  Speaker 8: I don't care. He got on it. He did the
• 31:47
  Speaker 8: thumbs up.
• 31:48
  Speaker 9: I can still feel my limbs on a grade one
• 31:50
  Speaker 9: hamstring strain.
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sure the Giants fans are loving Jackson Dart today,
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: even though he's not going to play for the rest
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: of the season because he walked.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: Get out of here.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: 877-99 on Fox. That's how you know you've made it
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: in your city, though, right? When everyone is, all the
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: Bears fans are defending Caleb Williams. That was not the
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: case a year ago even, right?
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: Which is why he was so upset when he got hurt. Like,
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: he had so much momentum going his way outside of
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: that Minnesota Vikings game.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: That was a tough one. Well, he was about to score, though,
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: and he knew it.
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: But it was like he's got so much momentum going
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: for him, and then it just gets stopped suddenly, and
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: he knew it immediately, and he was like, oh, this sucks.
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, golf court.
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• 32:49
  Speaker 3: Izzy, everyone's so happy to have you back. We have
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: a full board of calls. How about that?
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but none of them want to talk about me.
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: They want to talk about others.
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: Should we take them or should we allow you to
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: talk about the things that you want to talk about?
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: Let's take one call and take the temperature of the
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: call room right now.
• 33:05
  Speaker 6: 877-99 on Fox.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: That is 877-99 on Fox. We'll get to Dan Byer
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: and the sports update. In just a second, I think
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: Dan Beyer had a question for us. Yes, in the
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: first segment as well.
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: That's all right.
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: I had more to say.
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: Get in line. Let's go to.
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: I love the beef.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: That you have with Dan Beyer simply because you've never
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: won a Mount Rushmore Monday. You're still holding on to it.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: Welcome back from a long weekend. Let's go to Chad,
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: who's in Pennsylvania today.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: Chad, go ahead. You're on Fox Sports Radio.
• 33:39
  Speaker 6: Chad.
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: Great start.
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: Great start.
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: Well, let's see. Hold on, Mikey. Me and Mikey are
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: playing a game.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: We are battling. All right, let's start again. Let's go
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: to Chad in Pennsylvania today.
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: Chad, go ahead. You're on Fox Sports Radio.
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah, first of all, I was going to say I
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: love the show, you guys. I'm glad to have you
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: out here. But, yeah, you guys got to remember, AM
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: radio is still dominating. There's all parts of the rural country.
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: We got no satellite in between the mountains. That's what
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: I'm talking about. And then, also, I wondered what you
• 34:14
  Speaker 5: guys thought the chances of Aaron Rodgers surviving this year
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: with this offensive line play from the Pittsburgh Steelers. I'm
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: watching the guy get killed against the Patriots.
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 34:23
  Speaker 10: All right.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: Thank you. Thank you, Chad. Izzy, you want to comment
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: on that? The chances of Aaron Rodgers surviving this season.
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: I mean, I haven't been paying that close of attention
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: to his offensive line play. I'm more paying attention to
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: what he has to say afterward. And, When he says
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: it starts with me and then starts to blame the
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: entire coaching staff is bleeping hilarious. The guy's going to
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: walk out the door never taking blame for anything that
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: goes wrong. What I've realized from Aaron is just like
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: it's not that he doesn't have anything anymore, but he
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: doesn't have it. And he's like the whole offense is
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: predicated on these short passes and behind the line of
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: scrimmage passes. It feels like even with McCarthy and it's just.
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: It doesn't feel like anything that can sustain any sort
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: of success. And so, you know, unless that defense carries
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: them for stretches, he's going to probably be a below
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: average quarterback in his final year. And no, I don't
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: think he'll survive if his offensive line keeps playing this poorly.
• 35:18
  Speaker 8: Izzy, there was a play in the Patriots game. where
• 35:20
  Speaker 8: Aaron Rodgers got absolutely folded like a lawn chair. And
• 35:26
  Speaker 8: I'm watching that game. And it's sad watching Aaron Rodgers
• 35:29
  Speaker 8: out there because when you're watching him, you're thinking about
• 35:31
  Speaker 8: the guy that was an MVP in this league. If
• 35:34
  Speaker 8: I'm Aaron Rodgers, I'm packing up my locker and I'm leaving.
• 35:36
  Speaker 8: And I'm saying, it's been good, Pittsburgh. We don't need
• 35:39
  Speaker 8: to finish this out.
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Mikey.
• 35:42
  Speaker 9: For the record, he never said anything like that when
• 35:44
  Speaker 9: Mike Tomlin was in charge. He never said anything about
• 35:48
  Speaker 9: the coaching staff. Maybe Mike McCarthy doesn't quite have the
• 35:53
  Speaker 9: respect he thinks he has with Aaron.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought up Tomlin. Izzy, if Mike Tomlin
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: calls the Green Bay Packers today, what do you do?
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: If I'm Green Bay, I'm answering that phone call. I'm
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: spending about an hour on the phone with Mr.
• 36:08
  Speaker 6: Mike. Mr.
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: Personality.
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: Mike Tomlin all of a sudden. And yeah, I think
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: he's got a better track record than LeFleur.
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: 877-99 on Fox. Go ahead, Taylor.
• 36:16
  Speaker 8: Yeah, so Stu, I put this out on social media.
• 36:19
  Speaker 8: You're the Green Bay Packers. Mike Tomlin calls. What do
• 36:21
  Speaker 8: you do? I almost put it out on social media
• 36:23
  Speaker 8: just saying it and not really expecting much of a response.
• 36:27
  Speaker 8: Then I get back to my phone and I see
• 36:29
  Speaker 8: over 500 notifications. And it's just a bunch of people
• 36:33
  Speaker 8: just responding what the Packers would do if all of
• 36:37
  Speaker 8: a sudden they got a caller ID in Mike Tomlin.
• 36:39
  Speaker 8: And a majority of them are saying Mike Tomlin's happy.
• 36:43
  Speaker 8: Stop mentioning his name for jobs. And then the other
• 36:46
  Speaker 8: half was saying, if you're the Packers, pick up that
• 36:49
  Speaker 8: and make sure Tomlin's on your sideline on Sunday.
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: They don't have caller ID in Green Bay yet.
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: It's on the way.
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: 50-50, Taylor.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: That's what sports radio is all about. I mean, that's
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: why it's a good question. All right, Dan, stay right
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: there for a second. I am told that you have
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: a question for us. I'm told that Taylor has a
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: question for us. Everyone has questions for.
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: Us, is he? Let's start with Dan Beyer. Dan, what
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: do you have for us?
• 37:11
  Speaker 7: To a point that Mikey made earlier about Arch Manning.
• 37:15
  Speaker 7: When you guys look at Arch Manning, you say if
• 37:17
  Speaker 7: his name was on a different jersey or if it
• 37:19
  Speaker 7: wasn't his name, things would be different. Do you look
• 37:22
  Speaker 7: at it as Arch is the next Peyton or that
• 37:25
  Speaker 7: Arch is not going to fail because he's a Manning?
• 37:28
  Speaker 7: Because I think that there are two different discussions in
• 37:31
  Speaker 7: how you look at Arch Manning. And I was just
• 37:33
  Speaker 7: curious when Mikey brought up the point of how you
• 37:36
  Speaker 7: guys look at it. Is it because Arch could be
• 37:38
  Speaker 7: the home run of Peyton or because you know he's
• 37:41
  Speaker 7: not going to just ultimately fail and wash out like
• 37:43
  Speaker 7: a Josh Rosen?
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: No, I look at it as they have the physical capabilities, right?
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: They're almost raised as quarterbacks, but when you get to
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: a certain point, you have to not just be that
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: level of great, not just be all in, but it
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: has to be it has to dominate your thinking. It
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: has to be the one thing that you care about,
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: the first, second, and third thing that you care about.
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: And while Arch has the physical tools, that's not the
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: only thing that's required to be a great NFL quarterback.
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: You have to be, like I said, just 100% committed
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: and your brain has.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: To be nothing but football in there. And I just
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: don't know if that's who he is.
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: I don't know that. I don't know if it's just
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: because his personality seems to show through a little bit
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: or because it's just a new age and you just
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: never really know. You're not going to go 100%. on
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: quarterbacks in the same family. If he was an Eli Manning,
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: like a fringe Hall of Famer, I'll take that.
• 38:34
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: To say he's going to be the next Peyton Manning
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: is ridiculous. We shouldn't say that about anyone. We shouldn't
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: put that expectation on anyone. I think he can be
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: a good quarterback. I don't know if he's going to
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: be an all time great quarterback, which is what his uncle,
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: not his dad, his uncle was.
• 38:50
  Speaker 6: In Peyton Manning.
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: Did I say dad?
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: No, but I think people just, they just assume that
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: Arch Manning, that Peyton is his dad. He's not. And
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: I don't think Arch Manning is going to be the
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: next Peyton Manning. Why? Because he's a once in a
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: lifetime quarterback, Peyton Manning. And so I feel like that's
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: too lofty of an expectation. What do you have Taylor?
• 39:06
  Speaker 8: But the hope is that you are drafting the next
• 39:08
  Speaker 8: Peyton Manning with just athleticism because that that's the, the
• 39:13
  Speaker 8: promise with arch where that, that touchdown he had in
• 39:16
  Speaker 8: the bowl game last year against Michigan, where he's streaking
• 39:19
  Speaker 8: through the field where you're like, Oh my God, we
• 39:21
  Speaker 8: didn't know a Manning can move like that. And then
• 39:23
  Speaker 8: you kind of forget that Cooper Manning was the athlete
• 39:25
  Speaker 8: in the family.
• 39:26
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: Arch can scoot. What do you got Mikey?
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: It's a fantastic question.
• 39:30
  Speaker 9: After Dan asked it, I was trying to figure out
• 39:32
  Speaker 9: what is it that I think. And I just cannot
• 39:35
  Speaker 9: see a floor so low with somebody named Manning where
• 39:38
  Speaker 9: you'd be like, oh, that guy was a bust. He
• 39:40
  Speaker 9: might not live up to Eli or Peyton, but I
• 39:44
  Speaker 9: just can't see that. a kid like that, a Manning
• 39:48
  Speaker 9: come in and, and be just an absolute failure.
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: Look, I do think you're right.
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: The floor is, is higher than probably any of the
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: other quarterbacks that I mentioned just because of everything you
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: just said. But again, there's a huge difference between middle
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: of the league quarterback and elite quarterback. One will get
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: you through a season. The other ones will actually make
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: you win. And if you're going through this mud and,
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: of being god-awful just for one year, really, but for
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: a long period of time for the Dolphins, You need
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: that payoff.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: If Eli doesn't make two throws in the postseason, two
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: of the best throws we've ever seen in the postseason, his.
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: Career is kind of a bust, right?
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: I mean— I wouldn't call it a bust, but it
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: certainly wouldn't be— yeah, it wouldn't live anywhere near what we're
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: talking about right now. We wouldn't be talking about the Mannings.
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: We'd be talking about a Manning.
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: I offended Mikey A. What happened there? You're shaking your head.
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: What happened? I mean, he made two throws. That's it.
• 40:41
  Speaker 9: That's what makes him a fringe as a— as he
• 40:45
  Speaker 9: put it, a fringe Hall of Famer, but that's not
• 40:46
  Speaker 9: what made him a good quarterback.
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: He was a good quarterback.
• 40:49
  Speaker 9: He just, those throws made him in consideration for the
• 40:53
  Speaker 9: Hall of Fame.
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: Whose career would you rather have, Eli's or Peyton's?
• 40:56
  Speaker 8: That's not even close.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: Why?
• 40:58
  Speaker 6: That's not even.
• 40:58
  Speaker 9: They both have two Super Bowls.
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: No, you know what? Yeah, but Eli, he beat the
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: Patriots in both those Super Bowls. He beat Tom Brady
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: in both of those Super Bowls.
• 41:06
  Speaker 9: So did Peyton.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: I know, but Peyton Manning, Mikey, Peyton Manning had nothing
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: to do with that second Super Bowl.
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: Nothing.
• 41:13
  Speaker 8: The only argument I think you can make for Eli
• 41:16
  Speaker 8: Manning is the fact that he did it in New York,
• 41:18
  Speaker 8: and if you do it in New York, you're just
• 41:20
  Speaker 8: going to be more beloved in your market. Like, I
• 41:22
  Speaker 8: know Peyton Manning... is huge in Indianapolis. Eli Manning could walk, like,
• 41:27
  Speaker 8: who cares if you could walk anywhere in Indianapolis and
• 41:29
  Speaker 8: get a table? Eli Manning could walk anywhere in New
• 41:34
  Speaker 8: York City and get a table.
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: After Jalen Brunson.
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: It's a fair point, and it's how we should be
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: doing this. Yes, after Jalen Brunson. 877-99 on Fox. Taylor,
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: did you have a question for us? Yes, I did, actually.
• 41:47
  Speaker 6: Okay, go ahead.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: What do you have?
• 41:48
  Speaker 8: So I was thinking about this when I was watching
• 41:51
  Speaker 8: a report earlier, Jaden Daniels and Jackson Dart, where they're
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  Speaker 8: getting second opinions on if they need surgeries or not.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: How do you guys feel about second opinions? Because it
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  Speaker 8: just feels like the second opinion is you just want
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  Speaker 8: the doctor to tell you what you want to hear.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: No, I'm a big fan of second opinions. Of course
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  Speaker 3: you are.
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  Speaker 4: Man, I do not trust every doctor. Do not trust
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  Speaker 4: every doctor I see. As somebody who's been to several dermatologists,
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  Speaker 4: they're guessing. They're guessing on most things. And yeah, I'm
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  Speaker 4: okay with going to another doctor, somebody who might be
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  Speaker 4: I don't know. It just might be more advanced on
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  Speaker 4: certain areas. But with a dislocated elbow?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: With something like that, you kind of can look at
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  Speaker 4: it if you're a regular doctor and be like, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: you got to fix that thing.
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  Speaker 3: Everyone's fired up to talk here. Go ahead.
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  Speaker 8: So, Izzy, what happens if the first doctor tells you A,
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  Speaker 8: the second doctor tells you B, do you then need
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  Speaker 8: a third opinion?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you got to go Rochambeau two out of three.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Well, what's the answer you're looking for, though?
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  Speaker 1: If the second doctor gives you the answer you want,
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  Speaker 1: then you believe him, right?
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  Speaker 3: Or her. What do you have, Mikey?
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  Speaker 9: I was going to ask what Taylor asked. Like, at
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  Speaker 9: what point have you heard enough opinions? Do you have
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  Speaker 9: to get, like, a best of five, a best of seven? Like,
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  Speaker 9: what is it?
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  Speaker 1: I got to tell you, I want to go to
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  Speaker 1: one doctor, and whatever that doctor— I want to trust
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  Speaker 1: my doctor enough that if he tells me I need surgery,
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  Speaker 1: I need surgery.
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  Speaker 3: I don't like second opinions. I hate that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I mean, look, and this kind of takes
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  Speaker 4: me to this Caleb Williams conversation, which I'll get to later, but, like, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: for these players— It's not just as simple as, oh yeah,
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  Speaker 4: you need to get that elbow fixed. Like I want
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: to know to what extreme can I push it so
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  Speaker 4: that I can play football. Because it's all they care
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  Speaker 4: about right now. And, you know, it seems like a
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  Speaker 4: long season. It's 17 weeks, 18 weeks, whatever. If you
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: can somehow survive, if you can tell me, hey, as
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: a player, hey, try not to fall on your left
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  Speaker 4: side while catching yourself.
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  Speaker 3: Cool.
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  Speaker 4: I'll do that.
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  Speaker 3: Just keep me on the field somehow. Yes. 877-99 on Fox.
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  Speaker 3: Look at this, Mikey. Full board of calls.
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  Speaker 6: AM radio.
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  Speaker 3: It is alive and well. Let's go to Steve in
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  Speaker 3: South Dakota today. Steve, go ahead. You're on Fox Sports Radio.
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  Speaker 6: Hey, guys, long-time listener, and I like your show, especially
• 44:08
  Speaker 6: when you said Peyton Manning had nothing to do with
• 44:11
  Speaker 6: winning that second Super Bowl. He didn't.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they won it for him.
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  Speaker 6: He didn't, man. He's a loser. Anyway, I want to
• 44:18
  Speaker 6: talk about Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson. How great are they?
• 44:23
  Speaker 6: How many championships have they won? Can we quit comparing
• 44:26
  Speaker 6: them with the greatest? What would you rather have, a
• 44:30
  Speaker 6: league MVP or a Super Bowl MVP?
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  Speaker 3: Super Bowl MVP every time. What do you think, Izzy?
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  Speaker 4: I would like to have a quarterback that gives me
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: a chance every year. And then the thing with those
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: two guys is, with Josh Allen in particular, is it's
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: almost like he's above criticism, which bothers me. It's like
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: the guy's still going to make mistakes. He's still going
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: to throw some interceptions. He's still going to probably do
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: too much or try to do too much with his legs.
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  Speaker 4: And everybody, when he does lose, will look to any
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: other reason. Oh, he doesn't have those receivers. Oh, the
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: offensive coordinator. Oh, it's the head coach.
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  Speaker 10: Oh.
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  Speaker 4: And it's just like, all right, it's okay to blame
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  Speaker 4: him because, again— He hasn't won you anything, really. Lamar
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: Jackson seems to get criticized whenever he loses and, you know,
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: when he trusts his legs too much or when he
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: overthrows somebody. But nobody's going to remember necessarily Mark Andrews
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: dropping an obvious touchdown or two-point conversion, I can't remember,
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: in the end zone.
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: It was a touchdown.
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: Just make the criticisms fair is all I'm saying. But
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: I'm with you. I'd love to have a championship, and
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: it doesn't matter if I have a middle-of-the-pack quarterback.
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: But for a.
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  Speaker 4: Long-term fan, like I think Buffalo Bills fans are clearly
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: just ridiculously happy to have this guy because they assume
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: he's going to win them at least one. And we'll
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: have that conversation. If he never wins one, we'll have
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: that conversation when his career's over.
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: It was kind of like the Dolphins with Dan Marino.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Mikey.
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  Speaker 9: What does Stan want? Because he's talking about Josh Allen
• 45:53
  Speaker 9: and Lamar being losers, and then he's talking about Peyton
• 45:56
  Speaker 9: Manning with his two Super Bowls being a loser.
• 45:59
  Speaker 8: What does he want?
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: Well, this is why you don't get any calls, and
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: it's why I do, okay?
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  Speaker 2: I would love to have a conversation.
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  Speaker 9: Like, I have a feeling, like, he's one of those that, like,
• 46:09
  Speaker 9: Bart Starr is the only guy that's ever been a
• 46:11
  Speaker 9: good quarterback in his life.
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  Speaker 3: Let's go north of the border. Who's the caller there, Taylor?
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  Speaker 3: I can't see my board right now.
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  Speaker 11: Colin.
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  Speaker 3: Let's go to Colin. Colin, go ahead. North of the border.
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  Speaker 11: Hey, thanks for taking my call.
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  Speaker 3: Yep.
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  Speaker 11: I've been a Packers fan since 1989, and I don't
• 46:29
  Speaker 11: even know if I want to talk about them today
• 46:30
  Speaker 11: or not.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 46:32
  Speaker 11: Because that was obviously a pretty bad game last night.
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  Speaker 11: I will say, though, that if I was the Packers
• 46:38
  Speaker 11: front office and Mike Tomlin called– I would either A,
• 46:42
  Speaker 11: think Mike Tomlin is just pranking us and just hang up,
• 46:48
  Speaker 11: or I would think it's a Bears fan, one of
• 46:50
  Speaker 11: my epic Bears fans, calling just trying to prank us too.
• 46:53
  Speaker 11: So yeah, either way, we're not taking that call.
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: I would take that call right in front of LeFleur.
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: You know those old movies where you have to keep
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: the person on the line long enough so you can make.
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: The recording, right?
• 47:05
  Speaker 8: So you can trace them.
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you can trace the call. I would be like, hey,
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: get the contract ready. Keep him on the line. We
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: got to get the contract ready right now. Let's go
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: to George, who's in Virginia today. George, go ahead. You're
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: on Fox Sports Radio.
• 47:20
  Speaker 6: What's going on, guys?
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: How y'all doing this afternoon? Good, man. How are you, sir?
• 47:24
  Speaker 6: Doing good.
• 47:25
  Speaker 5: Been a Bills fan since 1969.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
• 47:29
  Speaker 5: So I've lived it, been it, done it. I'm patiently
• 47:33
  Speaker 5: waiting as well as I can. They will get the
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: defense fixed because every year their defense.
• 47:41
  Speaker 6: Always gets ragged on.
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: And as throughout the last year, their defense got stronger
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: and stronger as the year went.
• 47:49
  Speaker 5: Is this my year? Wow.
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: Is it? Oh, is that the question?
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Man, I wish I knew that. It's a great call,
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: by the way. Rack him. Anyway, go ahead.
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  Speaker 10: Is it?
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  Speaker 4: Is it his year? I wish I knew that for
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: sure because I would win a lot of money.
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: I think midseason is probably when you start to really
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: figure out who's who. Like, are the Bengals really a
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: Super Bowl contender? Are the Chiefs really back with, you know,
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes? I feel like they're going to be up there.
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: They're going to be.
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: Well, he has a defense now, is he?
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: Is it their year?
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: It seems like he's in a great place. It seems
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: like they're comfortable with the new coach and everything else,
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: but it's hard to tell.