Latest / Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge / Three Ts and a Shannon Beador
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- 0:02Speaker 1: Two Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Camra Judge.
- 0:12Speaker 2: Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of Two Teas in
- 0:15Speaker 2: a Pod with myself, Teddy Mellencamp and Camorrid Judge.
- 0:18Speaker 3: And today we have two special oc guests.
- 0:22Speaker 2: So we're here with Shannon Best known for being a
- 0:24Speaker 2: cast member on the Real Housewives of Orange County. She
- 0:27Speaker 2: joined the cast in season nine. She's the owner and
- 0:30Speaker 2: founder of Real for Real and she has three daughters.
- 0:36Speaker 3: We all professional Teddy.
- 0:38Speaker 2: We also have Taylor Armstrong. Taylor Armstrong is known as
- 0:41Speaker 2: an original cast member of the Bravo reality series The
- 0:44Speaker 2: Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. In twenty twenty two, was
- 0:47Speaker 2: announced that she would join the Real Housewives of Orange County,
- 0:51Speaker 2: making her the first housewife to transfer franchises. She moved
- 0:55Speaker 2: to Orange County nearly ten years ago and has been
- 0:59Speaker 2: brought into the circle after be becoming fast friends with Tamra.
- 1:03Speaker 3: Okay, wait a minute, I will have to say, Taylor,
- 1:06Speaker 3: you are truly like the Vault because you were interviewing
- 1:12Speaker 3: to be on oh SE and never told me. You
- 1:17Speaker 3: know how I found out? Oh when I was interviewing, Well,
- 1:20Speaker 3: I guess they were coming.
- 1:21Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 1:21Speaker 3: If you call interviewer, they know who I am. They
- 1:23Speaker 3: accidentally sent me an email for you.
- 1:27Speaker 4: If she told you, would you have kept it secret exactly?
- 1:30Speaker 4: Maybe that's why she kept it quiet.
- 1:32Speaker 3: I don't keep secrets.
- 1:33Speaker 4: You know that, Well, I kind of no.
- 1:35Speaker 2: You wait until it's the most uncomfortable time for you
- 1:38Speaker 2: to release the secret.
- 1:39Speaker 5: Yeah, and then yeah.
- 1:40Speaker 3: It's it's yeah, it's my secret power.
- 1:44Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:45Speaker 5: Good.
- 1:45Speaker 3: I knew that, and I didn't say anything. And then finally,
- 1:48Speaker 3: after I got hired, I said to Alex and said,
- 1:52Speaker 3: you know, I got this email, and he goes, No.
- 1:54Speaker 3: Taylor is like the Vault. She does not repeat anything
- 1:58Speaker 3: that's told to her.
- 1:59Speaker 1: It's true, true, which is good for you.
- 2:02Speaker 2: My next question is for Shannon, because I don't know
- 2:06Speaker 2: if you remember, but right when me and taram Are
- 2:09Speaker 2: started the podcast, I reached out to you.
- 2:12Speaker 5: I sent you a text message.
- 2:13Speaker 3: It was a strong text from NAPA.
- 2:15Speaker 4: Yeah I remember you never responded to me.
- 2:18Speaker 3: Well, let me just tell you. She wanted us to
- 2:20Speaker 3: get back together as friends, and I'm saying no, no, no.
- 2:24Speaker 5: Before she was ever cast, before there was passion.
- 2:28Speaker 2: I always said, I like Shannon, I think you're making
- 2:30Speaker 2: a mistake.
- 2:31Speaker 5: I understand that there is.
- 2:33Speaker 3: And you had Shannon's phone umber on your phone.
- 2:35Speaker 4: I know because we had a moment at Andy Cohen's
- 2:38Speaker 4: baby shower.
- 2:38Speaker 5: Yeah, we had fun, like and I liked her.
- 2:41Speaker 2: And I said, listen, I understand I have recently been
- 2:43Speaker 2: fired myself, and the friendship's change and they are they
- 2:47Speaker 2: made you know, there's an uncomfortable level to some people
- 2:49Speaker 2: because they don't want to make you feel bad after
- 2:52Speaker 2: you're gone. And I don't know all of the specifics,
- 2:54Speaker 2: I said, but I just want you to talk to
- 2:56Speaker 2: Shannon because I do think that you guys have a
- 2:58Speaker 2: true friendship.
- 2:59Speaker 5: So I called Shanna.
- 3:01Speaker 2: She didn't answer, and then I texted and guess what,
- 3:04Speaker 2: she didn't respond.
- 3:04Speaker 3: It's because she has nine hundred unanswered text messages.
- 3:07Speaker 4: But also to just clarify, Tamor was saying a lot
- 3:12Speaker 4: of things out there in the press and my choice,
- 3:18Speaker 4: my choice was not to engage.
- 3:20Speaker 3: You engaged, So.
- 3:22Speaker 5: You did engage a bit.
- 3:23Speaker 4: I said, it's some of the stuff you're hearing is
- 3:27Speaker 4: not true. It's not true. So yeah, I'm going to
- 3:29Speaker 4: defend myself. But I didn't say much beyond that, because
- 3:32Speaker 4: I wasn't going to do that. So to respond to
- 3:36Speaker 4: you and be two against one, it wasn't what.
- 3:40Speaker 5: I was coming for you and that message.
- 3:42Speaker 4: I of course, yeah, but I was.
- 3:45Speaker 5: I was actually very I was very nice, and I
- 3:49Speaker 5: just said I missed they'all's friendship together. Please call us,
- 3:52Speaker 5: and let's.
- 3:53Speaker 3: When she called you, I ran out the door.
- 3:55Speaker 4: Well, I will say, like, what are you doing? I
- 3:57Speaker 4: will say, and I've said this, so I think I can.
- 4:00Speaker 4: I never, in my wildest dreams, thought that I would
- 4:03Speaker 4: be reunited with this one.
- 4:05Speaker 1: I really do. Really it was that bad.
- 4:07Speaker 4: I thought that.
- 4:08Speaker 3: I think, when you are so close to somebody and
- 4:11Speaker 3: then something happens you, you just the pain is so
- 4:15Speaker 3: bad that you want to block out all the good
- 4:17Speaker 3: and just think about the bad.
- 4:18Speaker 4: Right, But I didn't think that there would be even
- 4:20Speaker 4: a situation where we would be with each other again,
- 4:24Speaker 4: and to be able to be in this position right now,
- 4:28Speaker 4: I'm absolutely grateful to have my friend back. And when
- 4:31Speaker 4: we finally work through things, and by the way, there's
- 4:34Speaker 4: a lot that we had to work through, it was
- 4:37Speaker 4: like snap the fingers.
- 4:39Speaker 3: It's a sisterhood.
- 4:40Speaker 4: Two and a half years didn't even happen.
- 4:42Speaker 2: I'm just saying you could have written back and just
- 4:44Speaker 2: say I'm sorry.
- 4:46Speaker 3: Well, she's not very good at it.
- 4:47Speaker 4: I'm not a good time. I'm not What are you
- 4:49Speaker 4: like my dad's well, I'm kind of pity. How old
- 4:52Speaker 4: is your dad because I think I'm about his age.
- 4:54Speaker 5: Seventy two?
- 4:55Speaker 1: Okay, that's my mom's age.
- 4:58Speaker 5: How old are you, Shannon?
- 5:00Speaker 4: I'm fifty nine. Damn it, you look really good.
- 5:04Speaker 3: We're going to have a pig giant sixtieth.
- 5:06Speaker 2: Absolutely, I need to ask more freaking questions. I'm sorry,
- 5:11Speaker 2: I'm not done. So I saw there was a TikTok
- 5:15Speaker 2: and I saw John Jansen in it.
- 5:17Speaker 4: Yeah, this is after.
- 5:18Speaker 3: Are you talking about that la article?
- 5:20Speaker 2: There's all these things. But then I saw him now
- 5:23Speaker 2: at the gym as well with you.
- 5:25Speaker 4: I mean, we ran into each other there.
- 5:27Speaker 3: But why did you post?
- 5:28Speaker 2: But I got mad at Tamra because I said, when
- 5:30Speaker 2: they hung out that night and everyone's drinking and having fun,
- 5:33Speaker 2: did you ask Shannon if maybe you put just the
- 5:36Speaker 2: tip in?
- 5:36Speaker 5: And she said I did not ask Shannon. I said no,
- 5:38Speaker 5: and I said, well I am going.
- 5:40Speaker 4: To okay, well I will say slip. I know I
- 5:43Speaker 4: will say that I was dating someone and I asked
- 5:47Speaker 4: that person to come to the family feud. But we
- 5:50Speaker 4: ended things right before.
- 5:51Speaker 1: Why this was the Mexico guy.
- 5:53Speaker 4: The Mexico guy. I know you posted him on you
- 5:56Speaker 4: know what I said? Are you ready to be done? No?
- 5:59Speaker 4: You guys, we went out for four months. I was
- 6:01Speaker 4: ready to post that he's my official boyfriend. And then
- 6:05Speaker 4: you know, this is why this is my piece of
- 6:08Speaker 4: dating advice to people. If you think you like someone,
- 6:12Speaker 4: go away for them, go away with them for the weekend,
- 6:16Speaker 4: because that's when you know you're on the trip. And
- 6:18Speaker 4: then it's like, you know what, this isn't really working well?
- 6:22Speaker 2: What made you guys such different type of travelers? Like
- 6:24Speaker 2: for me, I knew I could travel with Tamra because
- 6:27Speaker 2: she didn't bug me about a bunch of like what
- 6:29Speaker 2: all are you packing?
- 6:30Speaker 5: What are you doing? What are you doing?
- 6:31Speaker 3: Are we going?
- 6:32Speaker 2: Yeah, like what's the exact timing? She could just kind
- 6:34Speaker 2: of go with the flow and then we just could
- 6:36Speaker 2: figure it out. But there are some people that are
- 6:38Speaker 2: like very high maintenance travelers, and I'm like, it was.
- 6:41Speaker 4: More it was more spending time with someone and realizing
- 6:44Speaker 4: that you're not on the same page.
- 6:46Speaker 3: Well, you also were spending more than just a few
- 6:48Speaker 3: hours with him.
- 6:49Speaker 4: You were like, yeah, and we dated for four months
- 6:52Speaker 4: like regularly kids like him. They yeah, they did, Yeah,
- 6:55Speaker 4: they did. But he's I needed a date and I
- 6:59Speaker 4: you know what, I Everyone's going to give me a
- 7:02Speaker 4: lot of hell for this, but I was blindsided by
- 7:06Speaker 4: what happened with John. I was so heartbroken. I can't
- 7:09Speaker 4: even tell you. But now that we're almost eight months
- 7:12Speaker 4: into it, I would much prefer to be friendly and
- 7:16Speaker 4: not be bitter because I don't have room for that negativity.
- 7:19Speaker 4: And we are friends, and that is that is what
- 7:23Speaker 4: we are as friends. So I have not been you
- 7:27Speaker 4: were friends, And to be sure, to be clear, I
- 7:32Speaker 4: have not. I have not. I have not been intimate.
- 7:35Speaker 4: I have not been intimate with anyone since, and that
- 7:39Speaker 4: means sex. But was there job with anyone since John Janssen?
- 7:43Speaker 5: I have hold on He dated the guy for four months,
- 7:45Speaker 5: he went with you to Mexico.
- 7:47Speaker 3: You didn't even touch you.
- 7:48Speaker 5: You didn't even dry ump. No, did you give him
- 7:52Speaker 5: a blowy.
- 7:53Speaker 3: No hand job, dry humping?
- 7:56Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, honestly I would break up with you too.
- 7:58Speaker 5: Nothing what we're doing?
- 8:01Speaker 1: She broke up with him because I think he wasn't
- 8:03Speaker 1: putting out, But.
- 8:04Speaker 4: No, I felt like I fell for him.
- 8:06Speaker 5: Maybe he can't get hard.
- 8:08Speaker 3: Oh that's it. That's a con that's.
- 8:10Speaker 4: That's and we're really talking about this right now.
- 8:12Speaker 2: Yes, I have a question. Did you ever wash your
- 8:25Speaker 2: hair the entire girls trip? Because it stayed perfectly quaffed
- 8:29Speaker 2: the entire time. And these are the things I wonder like,
- 8:32Speaker 2: I'm like, I saw Vicky come out and some days
- 8:35Speaker 2: her hair looked like she had put her finger in
- 8:37Speaker 2: an electrical socket.
- 8:39Speaker 4: I tried to help her, that's Vicky.
- 8:41Speaker 5: So did you watch OC before joining?
- 8:45Speaker 1: You know, I had seen some of the very first episodes,
- 8:48Speaker 1: so I kind of knew the old history, but I've
- 8:50Speaker 1: been catching up on the most recent history because I'm
- 8:53Speaker 1: getting to know the other girls, And I'm like.
- 8:55Speaker 3: You actually hang out with some of the girls that
- 8:57Speaker 3: were on in previous years, which would be Lynn Curtin
- 9:00Speaker 3: my Curtain, Tammy Knickerbocker, and Peggy Tanno's of course, Vicky
- 9:06Speaker 3: Vicky are those they? Ever? How did they take it
- 9:09Speaker 3: when you got cast on Orange County? And were they
- 9:13Speaker 3: do they? Kind of like I want to be on
- 9:15Speaker 3: can you bring me to a party.
- 9:17Speaker 1: I think a little bit.
- 9:18Speaker 4: What did you think of me now that you've seen
- 9:20Speaker 4: like old episodes? To catch up?
- 9:22Speaker 1: I was, I was trying to catch up on your
- 9:24Speaker 1: relationship because I came into it. It was different, Like.
- 9:27Speaker 3: What season did you watch? Do you know?
- 9:29Speaker 1: Like bits? And I have a friend who's obsessed, and
- 9:32Speaker 1: so he just showed me like bits and pieces of
- 9:34Speaker 1: different seasons so I could piece together everything and try
- 9:37Speaker 1: to do a quick catch up.
- 9:38Speaker 3: Okay, what'd you think of Shannon?
- 9:41Speaker 1: Well, you guys were close and then you were.
- 9:46Speaker 4: What we're getting in is did you like Do you
- 9:48Speaker 4: like me well as a viewer?
- 9:50Speaker 1: I like you now as a viewer as a kind
- 9:54Speaker 1: of team camera. So I came in smart.
- 9:59Speaker 2: I have another question for Shannon? What you trip and
- 10:04Speaker 2: fall a lot or like stumble?
- 10:09Speaker 5: Is this like and not good?
- 10:10Speaker 3: Squad?
- 10:11Speaker 2: But you're not drinking when these things are happening? Are
- 10:14Speaker 2: you like a very clumsy human being?
- 10:16Speaker 4: My balance is a bit off, but I am exercising
- 10:20Speaker 4: every single day.
- 10:21Speaker 5: You give squad?
- 10:22Speaker 4: Okay?
- 10:23Speaker 3: Wait, like are you can you give us a squad?
- 10:25Speaker 5: Give me?
- 10:25Speaker 3: Give me a squad right now?
- 10:27Speaker 4: Okay, let's okay, Okay, this is my ability.
- 10:32Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay.
- 10:34Speaker 3: Oh yeah, to have your knees over the toes and heels.
- 10:43Speaker 4: Thank you.
- 10:43Speaker 5: Well.
- 10:43Speaker 3: Do you remember when you came to Cut Fitness years
- 10:46Speaker 3: ago and you were trying to do a squad and
- 10:47Speaker 3: you had to hold onto a Yeah?
- 10:49Speaker 5: But was it Shannon last?
- 10:50Speaker 1: Okay?
- 10:51Speaker 2: So I never watched the beginning, But was it Shannon
- 10:53Speaker 2: last year or the year before? You guys were all
- 10:56Speaker 2: out and someone was annoying me maybe.
- 11:00Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 11:00Speaker 2: And then there was like a fall at the table.
- 11:02Speaker 2: Was that Vicky or was that Fanish? Yeah?
- 11:04Speaker 4: I fell over on the I remember that. But I
- 11:07Speaker 4: kept those six sombreros on.
- 11:09Speaker 2: But you know what, we never saw that if you
- 11:11Speaker 2: had an inny ear and out he's so congratulations to
- 11:13Speaker 2: you for keeping that under.
- 11:14Speaker 4: Wraps because the SPANX is typically covering it.
- 11:18Speaker 2: Oh, when you went in the koozy when Tam jumped
- 11:21Speaker 2: in and broke her foot with laser, did you have
- 11:23Speaker 2: spankx on?
- 11:23Speaker 5: Yeah?
- 11:24Speaker 1: Yes? Do you ever not have SPANX on?
- 11:27Speaker 4: You might see me and spanks doing something.
- 11:30Speaker 1: Well, maybe the reason you never had sex is because young,
- 11:34Speaker 1: So I didn't.
- 11:35Speaker 4: I don't need them. No, when I went, when I
- 11:39Speaker 4: went there, no, not no. When I don't go when okay,
- 11:43Speaker 4: and thanks for saying his name.
- 11:45Speaker 1: Sorry, But when I when I went with Plexico Man,
- 11:49Speaker 1: Mexico Man, I wouldn't No, I wouldn't do that.
- 11:52Speaker 3: Okay, you do, You're not an easy leg because that's
- 11:54Speaker 3: a lot of like, wait, she just said, there's a.
- 11:56Speaker 1: Hole in the middle. I just threw up in my mouth.
- 12:00Speaker 5: There's a hole in the middle of a spank. And
- 12:02Speaker 5: at one point I made a mistake and tried to
- 12:06Speaker 5: pee through it.
- 12:06Speaker 3: And that went, yeah, why would you wear spanks?
- 12:08Speaker 1: Why would you ever?
- 12:10Speaker 2: Because I couldn't wear underwear, was like, yeah, sometimes you
- 12:12Speaker 2: just like I didn't want to have an underwear line.
- 12:15Speaker 4: But to be clear, there were moments in my life
- 12:17Speaker 4: where I would put up to five on Shannon.
- 12:20Speaker 3: I have a question. Yes, she's not choking, Shannon, I
- 12:23Speaker 3: have a question. Yeah, Ultimate Girls Trip. Is this something
- 12:27Speaker 3: you want to do? Who would you? Who would be
- 12:29Speaker 3: your dreamcast?
- 12:30Speaker 2: Okay?
- 12:30Speaker 4: Well, first of all, lightly, I have I have coined.
- 12:34Speaker 4: I haven't asked. I have coined myself on vacation, Shannon,
- 12:38Speaker 4: because I am quite fine on vacation typically don't go
- 12:40Speaker 4: to bed. And I was asked to go last minute
- 12:45Speaker 4: on Thailand. But I think I had like a week
- 12:48Speaker 4: to prepare and didn't work out. It didn't work out.
- 12:51Speaker 4: So I would love to be on Ultimate Girl's Trap. Teddy,
- 12:55Speaker 4: you haven't been on yet?
- 12:58Speaker 5: I know. Do you think it should be our?
- 13:00Speaker 4: Super fun? I think?
- 13:01Speaker 5: Do you think Tama would get jealous? So if we
- 13:03Speaker 5: became besties?
- 13:04Speaker 4: Yes? Oh my god?
- 13:06Speaker 2: No no, yes, if we had like a real connection
- 13:10Speaker 2: and I was like, sorry, Tama, I got to call
- 13:12Speaker 2: you back.
- 13:12Speaker 5: I'm on with Shannon.
- 13:13Speaker 3: Well can you you would you be able to call
- 13:15Speaker 3: Vicky and tell her that there's a new trace in Vegas?
- 13:18Speaker 4: Oh my god? Stop?
- 13:19Speaker 5: Oh?
- 13:20Speaker 4: But I think it would be fun to be on
- 13:22Speaker 4: with Margaret and Dolores. I haven't been on. Oh, I
- 13:24Speaker 4: would love to do that, and Sonya.
- 13:27Speaker 5: I want somebody from Miami.
- 13:29Speaker 3: But like I love Larsa.
- 13:31Speaker 4: I think that Chara would be super fun. We just
- 13:34Speaker 4: time with her. Oh, I love love Charay and Marlot
- 13:39Speaker 4: was really sweet too.
- 13:40Speaker 2: I liked Marlow too, But I'm scared what if I, like,
- 13:42Speaker 2: did something to piss her off. I feel like she
- 13:44Speaker 2: could maybe make me cry.
- 13:46Speaker 3: You don't cry, Who are you fooling?
- 13:48Speaker 4: You're tough.
- 13:49Speaker 3: Teddy doesn't cry.
- 13:50Speaker 5: I cried when I was on the show We Will.
- 13:55Speaker 4: We all do?
- 13:55Speaker 5: Made your crime be that's so embarrassing, So okay, let's change.
- 13:59Speaker 3: Things around Taylor.
- 14:01Speaker 1: Yes, ma'am.
- 14:02Speaker 3: What is your relationship like with Lisa vander Pump.
- 14:06Speaker 1: I haven't talked to her in years?
- 14:07Speaker 3: That's Teddy's best friend.
- 14:09Speaker 5: Really tight?
- 14:10Speaker 1: You are you and the LVP?
- 14:13Speaker 3: So you haven't talked to her in years?
- 14:14Speaker 1: Not in years? I mean if I saw her, we'd
- 14:16Speaker 1: be cordial.
- 14:17Speaker 3: But what was your experience filming with her?
- 14:20Speaker 1: My experience filming with her is lisas smart as a fox,
- 14:23Speaker 1: and she's always knows three questions before she's really trying
- 14:27Speaker 1: to get.
- 14:27Speaker 2: Do you think when Camille said the things that she
- 14:30Speaker 2: said to you, do you think that Lisa Vanner Pump
- 14:33Speaker 2: put her up to it?
- 14:34Speaker 1: I think she, yes, camis Camil's not that smart, come
- 14:38Speaker 1: up with it clearly always, so it's calculated.
- 14:40Speaker 5: Oh, I think she listen.
- 14:43Speaker 2: Camille's lovely, but Camille will do anything to get the
- 14:47Speaker 2: paycheck last minute. Because I saw Camille recently, I filmed
- 14:51Speaker 2: one time I saw her and I realized that the
- 14:54Speaker 2: camera wasn't following her, so I was like, I'm not going.
- 14:55Speaker 5: To down shit. I gotta get over to some other people.
- 15:02Speaker 2: But I looked at her and there was this moment
- 15:04Speaker 2: and I just went, ah, hell Camille, and we like
- 15:07Speaker 2: laughed and like gave each other a hug. But there
- 15:09Speaker 2: was like that moment of just I really feel like
- 15:12Speaker 2: she does what she feels like she has to do
- 15:15Speaker 2: to be on the show at any particular time, which
- 15:18Speaker 2: is why I always had a problem with her. Like, listen,
- 15:20Speaker 2: if you truly think I'm an asshole, if you truly
- 15:22Speaker 2: think that I was mean to your kid, if you
- 15:24Speaker 2: truly think I'm this person, be that way to me
- 15:27Speaker 2: all the time. Don't just be that way to me
- 15:31Speaker 2: on camera.
- 15:32Speaker 1: But I will disagree with you that one thing you
- 15:33Speaker 1: said she does it all at the last minute for
- 15:35Speaker 1: the paycheck. She was on h with no paycheck forever. Well,
- 15:39Speaker 1: that was doing that fine fame, fine fame exactly. Let
- 15:42Speaker 1: me she doesn't need a paycheck.
- 15:43Speaker 3: Who was your favorite person to work with on Beverly Hills, You.
- 15:46Speaker 1: Know, God bless her but Kim Richards because she just
- 15:49Speaker 1: stressed me out so much. And there her relationship with Kyle,
- 15:53Speaker 1: you know, it's long and complicated and it's too much
- 15:56Speaker 1: for the cameras to even understand. But she was hard
- 15:59Speaker 1: for me to film with. I never knew what she
- 16:00Speaker 1: was going to do. It was always erratic.
- 16:02Speaker 2: Can you explain to me the cat meme? I don't
- 16:04Speaker 2: understand it. I don't get it. I didn't watch them,
- 16:07Speaker 2: and the cat meme took over for the entire COVID.
- 16:09Speaker 2: Every fucking meme was there. But one years later, I
- 16:13Speaker 2: don't get it, explained.
- 16:15Speaker 1: I don't get it either. The first time I saw it,
- 16:16Speaker 1: I sent it to Kyle and she was like, I
- 16:18Speaker 1: don't get it, and I read her back. I was like,
- 16:19Speaker 1: she's like, I don't get I don't get it either,
- 16:20Speaker 1: and then it just kept happening. People are so creative
- 16:23Speaker 1: and maybe have a little too much time on their hands,
- 16:24Speaker 1: but I think it's hysterical. And here's the best part.
- 16:27Speaker 1: So Smudge the cat.
- 16:29Speaker 3: The cat has a cat.
- 16:31Speaker 1: It's his name Smudge Lord, because what cat was it.
- 16:34Speaker 1: It's a random house cat. But he had nothing to
- 16:37Speaker 1: do with real house one nothing.
- 16:38Speaker 3: No, the cat wasn't there.
- 16:40Speaker 1: The cat was not there.
- 16:42Speaker 5: The cat Foo the dog.
- 16:44Speaker 1: It's a famous The cat has one point six million
- 16:47Speaker 1: Instagram follow and he has an agent and a publicist
- 16:50Speaker 1: because of you. I think before me, I think the
- 16:53Speaker 1: cat's more famous than sweaters.
- 16:55Speaker 5: Nobody bought it from me though, just.
- 16:57Speaker 1: And there's Christmas sweaters of me and the cat. There's
- 16:59Speaker 1: Halloween costumes of the cat and me. I have no idea.
- 17:01Speaker 1: It's totally crazy.
- 17:02Speaker 3: Did you put the cat on the map or no?
- 17:04Speaker 1: I think the cat put me?
- 17:06Speaker 2: But hold on, was that mean whatever it's specifying at
- 17:11Speaker 2: that point in time, was that before or after you
- 17:13Speaker 2: got in the suitcase?
- 17:15Speaker 1: That was? It was so funny that you say that
- 17:21Speaker 1: because I said to my mom, I go, I might
- 17:22Speaker 1: have some weird moments this season, just so you know,
- 17:24Speaker 1: and she goes, well, it'll never be as bad as
- 17:26Speaker 1: you in a suitcase, honey, so don't.
- 17:27Speaker 4: Worry the cat.
- 17:30Speaker 1: I remember that the cat was after the suitcase. But
- 17:35Speaker 1: the cat, I don't know. It's been frigging crazy. So
- 17:38Speaker 1: smudge lord, he's the king.
- 17:40Speaker 3: Oh my god, Shannon. I got to ask you, out
- 17:42Speaker 3: of all the trips that you have had on Orange County,
- 17:45Speaker 3: what was your favorite and why?
- 17:47Speaker 4: Okay, I'm going to say that the best trip was
- 17:51Speaker 4: number one, Ireland. Yes, except with the buss the bus
- 17:56Speaker 4: from hell No. I was yelling, so that kind of
- 17:59Speaker 4: but it didn't still wreck that bond. But the other trip,
- 18:02Speaker 4: very close second was to.
- 18:03Speaker 5: He can we talk about Stahiti who was on the
- 18:06Speaker 5: cast st.
- 18:07Speaker 3: Oh, that was fun. What year was that?
- 18:09Speaker 4: It was my second It was my second year of
- 18:12Speaker 4: season ten s T season ten, and so I didn't
- 18:15Speaker 4: realize that sometimes on cast strips that you split up.
- 18:18Speaker 5: And we were all.
- 18:18Speaker 4: Supposed to go to the champagne place and picking tamers
- 18:21Speaker 4: show up at my door and they say we're not going,
- 18:24Speaker 4: and there they start filling my glass with street vodka
- 18:27Speaker 4: and we literally literally Vicky drove the golf cart and
- 18:32Speaker 4: into the restaurant and we asked for fireballs, which.
- 18:36Speaker 5: Was they had with lemon wood.
- 18:39Speaker 4: They had no idea what fireball was, and we just
- 18:41Speaker 4: kept doing shots and.
- 18:43Speaker 3: But they kept bringing as drinks. Think you it was fireballs.
- 18:45Speaker 3: So we kept doing.
- 18:47Speaker 4: Ten ten and we were ended up in the pool
- 18:50Speaker 4: and then the other three came back like, oh were
- 18:54Speaker 4: the other three?
- 18:54Speaker 5: What are you doing?
- 18:55Speaker 4: It was Heather, Lizzie and Megan.
- 18:58Speaker 3: And Megan they were somewhere else.
- 19:00Speaker 2: There was the housewife that was a housewife that nobody
- 19:02Speaker 2: ever saw Danielle.
- 19:06Speaker 5: She came on for a full season as a housewive.
- 19:08Speaker 5: But then my first.
- 19:09Speaker 4: Season was Danielle. She's the one that needed to shut
- 19:12Speaker 4: the fuck up oil with me.
- 19:13Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, Shannon, get in saucy. Yeah, she didn't work
- 19:19Speaker 3: out and she didn't make it as a housewife.
- 19:21Speaker 4: Don't mess with me.
- 19:33Speaker 3: But you know what was really fun after we were
- 19:36Speaker 3: in was It Ireland? Was it Ireland? The last night
- 19:39Speaker 3: we all got to party with the with the crew
- 19:42Speaker 3: and you know, all the camera operators and the audio
- 19:45Speaker 3: and all that. We had so much we never went
- 19:47Speaker 3: to bed. So hence four o'clock in the morning, we
- 19:51Speaker 3: are getting ready to get on the airplane and all
- 19:54Speaker 3: hell breaks loose and there's no cameras.
- 19:56Speaker 4: Oh so people were like filming in the hallways with iPhones.
- 19:59Speaker 1: It was, oh, I know that, So I have a
- 20:01Speaker 1: moment and I'll never forget it. The day that Camille
- 20:04Speaker 1: outed my abuse was standing straight across me with his
- 20:07Speaker 1: little monitor and the minute she said it, I'm staring
- 20:10Speaker 1: at him with a blank stare, and he was the
- 20:12Speaker 1: only person I could look at. I couldn't even look
- 20:13Speaker 1: I was in such shock. But it was just him
- 20:15Speaker 1: the whole time, and I just will never forget his
- 20:17Speaker 1: face in that moment.
- 20:18Speaker 5: Did you have any idea that it was coming?
- 20:21Speaker 1: No idea. I never thought anything. I would say it
- 20:23Speaker 1: out loud.
- 20:24Speaker 3: I don't know if you're aware of this, and I
- 20:26Speaker 3: don't want to bring this down, but the nine to
- 20:29Speaker 3: one to one phone call that you made is all
- 20:33Speaker 3: over Twitter. It is all over TikTok and you hear
- 20:37Speaker 3: there's a guy speaking to the cops. It was maybe
- 20:41Speaker 3: Russell's business partner or somebody.
- 20:43Speaker 1: No, it's the guy who came to protect me. He
- 20:45Speaker 1: was a world championship kickboxing Okay, him with me and.
- 20:48Speaker 3: You were there and Kennedy was with you as well.
- 20:50Speaker 3: It is I just, for the first time ever listened
- 20:53Speaker 3: to it the other day and it you are hysterically.
- 20:56Speaker 1: Did you know that I knew it was public right
- 20:58Speaker 1: after it happened for some reason all public.
- 21:00Speaker 3: Does Kennedy have any memory of this? And how is
- 21:04Speaker 3: she now? Kennedy?
- 21:06Speaker 1: I had her neuropsychologically evaluated after everything happened, and they
- 21:10Speaker 1: they did days and days of testing with her, and
- 21:13Speaker 1: they assured me that she was great psychologically. Was she
- 21:16Speaker 1: she was when he killed himself. She was five still. Yes,
- 21:21Speaker 1: So a blessing that came out of all the testing
- 21:25Speaker 1: was they identified that she had shades of dyslexia. They said,
- 21:29Speaker 1: psychologically she's great, but in doing all this testing, we
- 21:32Speaker 1: think you should keep an eye on her for dyslexia.
- 21:34Speaker 1: So as much as it was a blessing because we
- 21:38Speaker 1: got ahead of her dyslexia so early because.
- 21:39Speaker 3: Of it day, does she talk about him or is
- 21:42Speaker 3: there any memory or anything?
- 21:44Speaker 1: You know? Doctor Sophie, who was my psychiatrist, he and
- 21:47Speaker 1: I kind of worked together to think about how to
- 21:49Speaker 1: message things to her when it all first happened, and
- 21:52Speaker 1: I just told her, like, your daddy was sick in
- 21:54Speaker 1: the head, you know. And I didn't tell her obviously
- 21:57Speaker 1: what happened. And then she was riding in her cars
- 22:00Speaker 1: on the way to school after it all happened, and
- 22:03Speaker 1: thank goodness, she was behind me because doctor Sophie said
- 22:05Speaker 1: to remind her of him, And so I said, oh,
- 22:08Speaker 1: do you miss daddy? And she's like in oh, And
- 22:10Speaker 1: I said, okay, well some times I miss Daddy and
- 22:12Speaker 1: I remember like we went to Hawaii and I was
- 22:14Speaker 1: trying to give her some memories memories, yeah, And she
- 22:17Speaker 1: was like no in oh, And then a little bit
- 22:20Speaker 1: later she goes, Mommy, why would you miss a boy
- 22:23Speaker 1: that screamed at you all the.
- 22:24Speaker 2: Time remembers And just for the people that are listening
- 22:28Speaker 2: that have been in any part of like an abusive relationship,
- 22:32Speaker 2: at what point did and you can tell me you
- 22:35Speaker 2: don't want to answer, but like, at what point did
- 22:37Speaker 2: you know?
- 22:38Speaker 5: Like this isn't all right?
- 22:40Speaker 1: I knew very early on. And you know, it's a lot.
- 22:43Speaker 1: I do a lot of public speaking. I love speaking
- 22:44Speaker 1: at universities because I get to talk to freshman about
- 22:48Speaker 1: relationship inequality, red flags, all that kind of stuff, date rape,
- 22:51Speaker 1: things like that. Because I saw it from the very beginning.
- 22:53Speaker 1: I ran past all the red flags.
- 22:56Speaker 2: Do you think it was because like I was talking
- 22:59Speaker 2: to my family O night and I was just talking
- 23:01Speaker 2: to him, my dad. Actually, I was like, you know,
- 23:03Speaker 2: the one thing I've always craved in my life is
- 23:05Speaker 2: the ability to have unconditional love. And I just don't
- 23:09Speaker 2: know that I've ever one hundred per se percent felt
- 23:11Speaker 2: it like I always felt like there was condition it
- 23:15Speaker 2: was conditional.
- 23:16Speaker 1: Yeah, And do.
- 23:19Speaker 2: You think is there a part of you that thinks
- 23:21Speaker 2: that I can change this person or is it what
- 23:26Speaker 2: I'm just asking, like, how how does somebody avoid it
- 23:29Speaker 2: when they're getting.
- 23:30Speaker 1: To that place? Absolutely well. I grew up without a father,
- 23:33Speaker 1: and I tried to put boys in my life my
- 23:35Speaker 1: whole life, to try to give me validation. And I
- 23:38Speaker 1: had low self esteem, and so I would take like
- 23:40Speaker 1: any port in a storm, just anyone that would give
- 23:42Speaker 1: me attention, because that's really what I needed. And instead
- 23:46Speaker 1: of like working through it, that's how I put a
- 23:48Speaker 1: band aid on all of that. And so with with him,
- 23:52Speaker 1: like he would do things and then he would have
- 23:54Speaker 1: this night and shining armor thing, which is very common
- 23:56Speaker 1: in the beginning of relationships with control more like this.
- 24:00Speaker 1: So I had a textile company and he was like,
- 24:02Speaker 1: you shouldn't work like I want to take care of you.
- 24:05Speaker 1: So then the financial control, you know, So I shut
- 24:07Speaker 1: my company down, and then you should have a baby,
- 24:09Speaker 1: you should be a mom. So now I've got that
- 24:12Speaker 1: with them, you know, And it's little by little. You know,
- 24:13Speaker 1: somebody doesn't ask you on a date and punch you
- 24:15Speaker 1: in the face. It's a slow burn, so you know it. God, Yeah,
- 24:18Speaker 1: So you know, I mean I watched some episodes that
- 24:21Speaker 1: I was pretty taken aback with some of the things
- 24:23Speaker 1: that you were dealing with, and it was reminding me
- 24:25Speaker 1: and giving me chills in my life. Okay, I'm sorry.
- 24:29Speaker 5: It got physical too.
- 24:30Speaker 1: No, but watching it, I know the verbal abuses.
- 24:33Speaker 3: I was going to ask you because just recently, I
- 24:37Speaker 3: don't know if it suppressed memories or what. I will
- 24:39Speaker 3: walk through my house and I will go leave me
- 24:42Speaker 3: the fuck alone, Leave me the fuck alone. In my head,
- 24:44Speaker 3: I'll say that, and I'm like, why am I saying that?
- 24:47Speaker 3: Why am I saying that? Is that like suppressed memories
- 24:50Speaker 3: of what I went through when you know, when I
- 24:54Speaker 3: was being told what to do and how to do
- 24:56Speaker 3: it and what to say and all the things, And
- 24:58Speaker 3: it's just so bizarre to me, Like I'm like, why
- 25:00Speaker 3: do you see a therapist? One of these things keep
- 25:02Speaker 3: popping in my head.
- 25:03Speaker 1: That scene with you trying on dresses to go to
- 25:05Speaker 1: the party when everything is either too short, too long,
- 25:08Speaker 1: too backless, to this color that color.
- 25:10Speaker 3: Well, I was judged for everything I did know.
- 25:11Speaker 1: I was reliving that exact moment with you because you
- 25:14Speaker 1: cannot make it abus or happy.
- 25:15Speaker 2: No, well, Shannon, you I was just saying I was
- 25:18Speaker 2: looking at Shannon's face. I said, as I'm sitting here
- 25:21Speaker 2: having this conversation, the fact that there's four of us here,
- 25:24Speaker 2: and all four of us, in one way or another,
- 25:26Speaker 2: have had some form of this happening. Imagine how many
- 25:31Speaker 2: women out there feel like they're alone?
- 25:34Speaker 3: Yeah, and I had Yeah, which they both.
- 25:39Speaker 5: Said that was worse.
- 25:40Speaker 4: Wait, No, it is because you just you feel like
- 25:42Speaker 4: you're just a piece of piece of shit. You just
- 25:45Speaker 4: like you can't do anything right.
- 25:48Speaker 3: Yeah, but do you feel like that has carried on
- 25:50Speaker 3: after you have been divorced and you have dated, in
- 25:53Speaker 3: the relationships you've been in, have you carried that with you?
- 25:57Speaker 2: No?
- 25:57Speaker 4: I won't tolerate it, And how do I just got
- 26:00Speaker 4: to a point, and I did go to therapy for
- 26:01Speaker 4: a long time, but I'm not how to tolerate that.
- 26:04Speaker 4: I deal with that, you know, I don't know, and
- 26:06Speaker 4: it scares me. And I think all the time that
- 26:09Speaker 4: they're gonna at some point now I'm gonna get tarry.
- 26:12Speaker 4: At some point they're gonna come to me and say,
- 26:14Speaker 4: why didn't you protect us, Why did you stay for
- 26:17Speaker 4: so long? Why did you put us in front of.
- 26:20Speaker 3: All this chaos?
- 26:21Speaker 5: And you you asked you a question though.
- 26:23Speaker 3: Yeah, why did you?
- 26:25Speaker 4: Because I was it for the kids? Yeah, I thought
- 26:28Speaker 4: that I'm keeping my family together. And I would say, Shannon,
- 26:31Speaker 4: you've got a pretty nice life. You don't really get
- 26:33Speaker 4: along with him. Put a smile on your face and
- 26:35Speaker 4: be grateful. Yeah, that's what I would say to myself.
- 26:38Speaker 5: Are and are your parents still married?
- 26:40Speaker 2: No?
- 26:40Speaker 5: Are yours?
- 26:42Speaker 1: Or my stepparents, my step father and my mother.
- 26:45Speaker 3: No, my parents are divorced.
- 26:47Speaker 5: All of us come from diororce.
- 26:48Speaker 3: Yeah. Now, you had said recently that Sophie is in
- 26:53Speaker 3: a relationship and you've never seen her so happy, and
- 26:57Speaker 3: it's all about like they possibly might get married and
- 26:59Speaker 3: all these saying do you know what she do? You
- 27:01Speaker 3: feel like she's drawn to him because it's stability.
- 27:03Speaker 4: No, she said, Mom. Now, I know what it's like
- 27:07Speaker 4: to be treated right by someone, and I just pray
- 27:10Speaker 4: that my twins meet someone like Sophie's boyfriend because he's
- 27:15Speaker 4: such a kind soul and I'm so grateful that.
- 27:17Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes me happy. That's yeah, okay.
- 27:21Speaker 5: Wow, Yeah, Hello, I know these are sad conversed.
- 27:24Speaker 3: I know these are sad, but these are conversations that
- 27:26Speaker 3: help other people out there, and other women, I'm sure
- 27:28Speaker 3: reach out to every one of you to talk to
- 27:30Speaker 3: you about their experience and abuse, cheating, whatever it may be.
- 27:35Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been on the show nine seasons and people
- 27:39Speaker 4: still reach out about the offic Yeah, it happened the
- 27:42Speaker 4: day after my first day of Well.
- 27:44Speaker 3: Let's switch it up a little.
- 27:45Speaker 2: But I do want to ask another relationship question, because Okay,
- 27:49Speaker 2: so you you met your husband prior to being on it,
- 27:53Speaker 2: like you were after Beverly Hills, but before being on
- 27:56Speaker 2: OC how do you guys know when you're meeting somebody
- 27:59Speaker 2: if they are good guys or they're opportunists and they want.
- 28:03Speaker 3: To Oh, that's a good question.
- 28:04Speaker 1: I never thought it would be with another man my
- 28:06Speaker 1: entire life, especially because as my life was unraveling, there
- 28:09Speaker 1: were so many secrets that I didn't know about, and
- 28:11Speaker 1: I felt like a deer in the headlights. I thought,
- 28:13Speaker 1: I'm going to drive my Mercedes down the street and
- 28:15Speaker 1: the side panels are going to fall off, And really
- 28:16Speaker 1: I've been drawing a Kia the whole time. Not there's
- 28:18Speaker 1: anything wrong with the keya. I'm just saying there were
- 28:20Speaker 1: so many lies like piling up on top of his death,
- 28:23Speaker 1: and so I was like I'm done. I'm never gonna
- 28:25Speaker 1: be able to meet anyone because my whole life is
- 28:27Speaker 1: out there. But John and I had known each other before,
- 28:29Speaker 1: and he was he was he helped me with my
- 28:32Speaker 1: he was your lawyer, yeah, And so he helped me
- 28:34Speaker 1: for two years, and we hated each other because every
- 28:36Speaker 1: time he called me it was bad news, you know,
- 28:38Speaker 1: like another wheel fallen off the bus. So it was
- 28:41Speaker 1: two years of us just being friends. But he was
- 28:42Speaker 1: the only person I could trust.
- 28:44Speaker 5: And do you still feel the same.
- 28:45Speaker 2: I mean, obviously like highs and lows of every marriage,
- 28:48Speaker 2: but like, what would you say the best thing about
- 28:51Speaker 2: him is for you?
- 28:53Speaker 1: When he asked me to marry him, I said, I
- 28:55Speaker 1: will marry you, but you cannot change me because I
- 28:57Speaker 1: changed everything about myself and my first marriage and I
- 29:00Speaker 1: will not change. So you have to love me exactly
- 29:02Speaker 1: the way I am. And I'm a Gemini, so a
- 29:04Speaker 1: to me.
- 29:05Speaker 5: Oh my god, at least a virgo. Sorry Sam, No, no,
- 29:11Speaker 5: I know.
- 29:11Speaker 3: And I was like that with Eddie as well, because
- 29:13Speaker 3: Simon has so much control of everything I said and
- 29:15Speaker 3: did and war and where I went, where I couldn't go,
- 29:17Speaker 3: and where I could go. That with Eddie. I, you know,
- 29:21Speaker 3: I didn't want him to change me, but yet the
- 29:25Speaker 3: fucked up part of my brain was, why is he
- 29:26Speaker 3: not trying to change me? Does he not love me?
- 29:29Speaker 1: Like worships the ground you walk on?
- 29:31Speaker 3: That's why? Yeah, But I'm like, what, why is he
- 29:34Speaker 3: not telling me? No?
- 29:34Speaker 5: No, no, because Puss either No, it's not like you.
- 29:38Speaker 5: He's a supporter. Yeah, like he's the supporter of you.
- 29:40Speaker 2: He loves you, you're you know, he's your biggest Yeah,
- 29:43Speaker 2: he will I think you're in the wrong hearing.
- 29:46Speaker 1: Yeah, I think important day.
- 29:48Speaker 3: And he will say to me, do you really think
- 29:50Speaker 3: you should be doing that? And I'll be like, you're right, Okay,
- 29:53Speaker 3: you're right.
- 29:53Speaker 1: It's a good sounding board.
- 29:54Speaker 2: And Shannon, because now that you're in the dating world again,
- 29:57Speaker 2: how do you I don't know.
- 30:00Speaker 4: It's interesting because the people that I find myself attracted to,
- 30:05Speaker 4: including John, like, they don't even they had never seen
- 30:08Speaker 4: the show.
- 30:09Speaker 2: So then once they see, once they're on the show,
- 30:11Speaker 2: do you think they get addicted to the fame? The
- 30:14Speaker 2: fame after you know, somebody else knows.
- 30:18Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know. I wish I knew
- 30:21Speaker 4: the answer.
- 30:22Speaker 2: Like you'd seem like he cared at the beginning and
- 30:25Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, all.
- 30:26Speaker 3: Of a sudden, he's running for public But at.
- 30:29Speaker 5: The very beginning, did you think he cared?
- 30:31Speaker 4: Oh, John Steve, Oh, I didn't know.
- 30:35Speaker 3: I mean it was hard because he really when we
- 30:37Speaker 3: filmed with didn't he stayed away? But then all of
- 30:41Speaker 3: a sudden he was Instagram famous And what.
- 30:44Speaker 5: About the cancer guy?
- 30:46Speaker 4: He was obsessed. He was obsessed being famous as absolutely,
- 30:50Speaker 4: But yeah, you know it is. It is an issue,
- 30:52Speaker 4: like and I don't so far so good with me
- 30:55Speaker 4: being single. But you know, I don't know that I
- 30:58Speaker 4: could go into dating app.
- 31:00Speaker 3: Have you tried? No, No, we're going to lunch. What
- 31:06Speaker 3: we have to get you on one of those fancy
- 31:07Speaker 3: ones that you have to be accepted, right Yeah?
- 31:10Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, Ry, maybe you can date Perry.
- 31:14Speaker 1: He's very prevalent.
- 31:16Speaker 5: What I am?
- 31:18Speaker 4: I am fifty nine years old, and you know, sometimes
- 31:21Speaker 4: it takes you're not just to get to know someone.
- 31:23Speaker 4: I would prefer to be introduced to someone by a
- 31:26Speaker 4: friend because then it can pick up the phone goes
- 31:28Speaker 4: see I always like this.
- 31:29Speaker 3: Well it's not how the last one happened.
- 31:31Speaker 5: Little I'm sorry, I'm.
- 31:34Speaker 2: So I'm sorry, I'm stuck on the four months and
- 31:37Speaker 2: you didn't have sex, Like what's your rule?
- 31:39Speaker 5: Like you wait a year?
- 31:40Speaker 4: No, it wasn't you know. I okay, No it wasn't
- 31:44Speaker 4: It wasn't me. It wasn't me waiting. I think that
- 31:47Speaker 4: there was a lot of feelings between the two of us,
- 31:49Speaker 4: and we knew that if it got to that point.
- 31:51Speaker 4: And by the way, I haven't slept with that many people.
- 31:54Speaker 4: To me, sex is the ultimate connection because it's that
- 31:57Speaker 4: one thing that you have more than that person with you,
- 32:00Speaker 4: the one thing you have with that person that nobody
- 32:02Speaker 4: else can do. Nobody else can have sex with that
- 32:05Speaker 4: person because I'm a monogamous. So sex to me is
- 32:09Speaker 4: a huge deal.
- 32:10Speaker 5: Like put out to me.
- 32:11Speaker 4: So he couldn't get more. He felt that he felt this.
- 32:16Speaker 4: How old is he felt the same age? He was
- 32:19Speaker 4: my age. He's very tin and Taylor met him. Taylor
- 32:23Speaker 4: met him.
- 32:23Speaker 1: I did you like him? Yeah, I mean I feel
- 32:26Speaker 1: like he was quiet, but then around you, it's kind
- 32:28Speaker 1: of like a forced.
- 32:31Speaker 4: But this is my hot mess sister saying that.
- 32:37Speaker 5: I mean, it's true, like I feel like all of us.
- 32:40Speaker 2: You know, you have your men and there's going to
- 32:42Speaker 2: be moments where they're going to have their louder side,
- 32:45Speaker 2: but like we're kind of all loud mouth know at all?
- 32:48Speaker 4: That's yeah, But I was I gave him. I gave
- 32:51Speaker 4: him his attention.
- 32:52Speaker 5: I thought you just were going to say I didn't.
- 32:55Speaker 5: I gave him.
- 32:57Speaker 3: It's a very sexual person. I did four months not
- 33:00Speaker 3: having sex with a guy.
- 33:01Speaker 4: It was shocking.
- 33:02Speaker 5: And then okay, I need to know the night of
- 33:07Speaker 5: will of fortune.
- 33:09Speaker 4: It's called family.
- 33:10Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Pat say Jack, you're confusing. Man.
- 33:19Speaker 5: They don't call me Teddy Walters for nothing. Let me
- 33:22Speaker 5: pull up my notes. Did you hook up with John?
- 33:26Speaker 4: You know what he did? Stay over like where it's
- 33:29Speaker 4: a comfort.
- 33:29Speaker 5: I don't appreciate you dodging the answer.
- 33:33Speaker 3: Yes if you bang them no?
- 33:36Speaker 5: No, yes or no?
- 33:37Speaker 4: We you know what we are. We we have conversations.
- 33:41Speaker 4: We're at with your vagina getting back together, but you
- 33:46Speaker 4: have a song. But ever getting back together?
- 33:50Speaker 3: By the way, I will, I will have to tell
- 33:52Speaker 3: you this. When Shannon found out, you know that Mexico man,
- 33:57Speaker 3: the Mexico man was not going to go to family feud,
- 34:00Speaker 3: wanted a date. She She called me and said, how
- 34:03Speaker 3: do you feel if I brought John, and I said,
- 34:05Speaker 3: I don't care. I don't have a John with John.
- 34:08Speaker 3: I'm not judgmental in the sense that John's always been
- 34:11Speaker 3: nice to me and to Eddie, and Eddie likes him.
- 34:14Speaker 3: So I'm like, yeah, bring him, I don't care. And
- 34:17Speaker 3: so she's like, are you sure? Is it going to
- 34:18Speaker 3: be weird to go?
- 34:19Speaker 5: No?
- 34:20Speaker 3: So she brought him and the first day that we
- 34:22Speaker 3: were there, we were there a day early, we were
- 34:25Speaker 3: doing some tiktoks and we looked at John and said,
- 34:27Speaker 3: get out of the TikTok. You cannot be on the TikTok.
- 34:29Speaker 3: We don't want anybody you guys do.
- 34:31Speaker 5: A shitty job of it because I saw him there.
- 34:33Speaker 4: Yeah, well he was leaning against the pole.
- 34:36Speaker 3: Where's Waldo like? And he was in it? So she said,
- 34:40Speaker 3: who cares?
- 34:41Speaker 2: Okay, sorry, I'm asks this question and Tamer gets mad
- 34:44Speaker 2: every time I ask him.
- 34:45Speaker 3: Oh God, So you.
- 34:46Speaker 2: Have to pick from the current guys that people are
- 34:49Speaker 2: in relationships with on the Real Housewives of Orange County
- 34:55Speaker 2: who you would want to have sex with?
- 34:57Speaker 5: So who are options right now?
- 34:59Speaker 1: Shane Travis, Terry to Brow Okay, I'm definitely marrying Terry
- 35:04Speaker 1: to Brow.
- 35:05Speaker 4: No, it's it's not Mary shag Kill, it's just shag No.
- 35:10Speaker 5: I didn't do marry. I didn't do all the things
- 35:13Speaker 5: just to have such, but not after four and a
- 35:15Speaker 5: half Shannon likes.
- 35:17Speaker 4: To do Yeah, just I don't know.
- 35:20Speaker 1: Well, I mean, Eddie's the hottest, but you because that
- 35:27Speaker 1: would be very terry to.
- 35:29Speaker 4: Brow, super funny.
- 35:32Speaker 1: Terry is really funny and you can always get champagne after.
- 35:35Speaker 3: Yeah, So you're gonna and maybe maybe even a Cardier bracelet.
- 35:38Speaker 3: So you're gonna bang Terry to Brow.
- 35:42Speaker 1: And you're if I'm in a bank terry, then we
- 35:43Speaker 1: could do a threeesome. Oh there you go, there we go.
- 35:47Speaker 1: Have you guys ever done a three soome? No?
- 35:48Speaker 4: And I never will?
- 35:50Speaker 1: You know, I have.
- 36:01Speaker 3: What are your thoughts on what's going on with Tom
- 36:06Speaker 3: Sannibal and downerpup rules?
- 36:09Speaker 1: I just get bits and pieces and I don't know
- 36:11Speaker 1: those people. I know the old VP rules.
- 36:13Speaker 3: She knows them, she's out with that.
- 36:15Speaker 4: I know most of them.
- 36:17Speaker 2: Do you think that from coming from somebody who you
- 36:22Speaker 2: were married to?
- 36:23Speaker 5: A am I allowed to say serial cheater?
- 36:26Speaker 4: One cheated that?
- 36:28Speaker 1: You know that?
- 36:29Speaker 4: I know one that you know?
- 36:30Speaker 5: Okay?
- 36:30Speaker 2: All right, so one cheater. Do you think that it
- 36:35Speaker 2: was premeditated? And do you think somebody that cheats does
- 36:41Speaker 2: it because they're just so selfish or they just don't
- 36:43Speaker 2: care about how the other person feels.
- 36:46Speaker 4: Okay, this is kind of I can analogize it to
- 36:49Speaker 4: my relationship. I think that after nine years they were
- 36:53Speaker 4: in a relationship where both weren't the happiest and one
- 36:57Speaker 4: of the people decided to go outside the marriage or
- 37:00Speaker 4: the relationship. And that's what I don't agree on. I
- 37:03Speaker 4: get it that relationships can fizzle out, but you don't cheat,
- 37:06Speaker 4: you leave and.
- 37:07Speaker 5: Then and that's what I was married before.
- 37:09Speaker 2: And I told my ex husband, I said, listen, I
- 37:12Speaker 2: love you, You're my best friend. But there's something where
- 37:14Speaker 2: whenever I have a couple of drinks, I want Matt damon,
- 37:17Speaker 2: I don't want to have sex with you.
- 37:19Speaker 5: And I'm so sorry.
- 37:20Speaker 2: I don't know why this is happening, but like, this
- 37:23Speaker 2: has got to be a problem.
- 37:25Speaker 4: Yeah, but if you are, you did it right.
- 37:27Speaker 5: And so then we go.
- 37:29Speaker 2: But it was really hard, and my heart was still
- 37:31Speaker 2: broken for years because he was my comfort, he was
- 37:34Speaker 2: all of these things, and we had to end our
- 37:36Speaker 2: relationship for it.
- 37:37Speaker 3: But were you married.
- 37:38Speaker 1: I can totally understand that.
- 37:40Speaker 2: We were together for like five years. We were married
- 37:43Speaker 2: a year, But my dad told me the day I
- 37:45Speaker 2: walked down the aisle.
- 37:46Speaker 5: He looked at me and goes, you don't have to
- 37:48Speaker 5: do this.
- 37:48Speaker 3: Where is he now?
- 37:49Speaker 2: He's in San Francisco and he's great. Huh, he's married,
- 37:53Speaker 2: she's great. We still continue to be best friends until
- 37:59Speaker 2: he got engaged again.
- 38:00Speaker 1: It right, yeah, because it's.
- 38:03Speaker 4: John John and to be this just is just to
- 38:06Speaker 4: show you that the friendship that John and I have
- 38:08Speaker 4: We've had that discussion today. We are friends, but we
- 38:12Speaker 4: realized that as soon as one of us gets into
- 38:14Speaker 4: a serious relationship, that friendship is going to have to
- 38:17Speaker 4: die down.
- 38:17Speaker 2: But I'm here to tell you I didn't like that
- 38:19Speaker 2: he was at that What's Up place? You guys?
- 38:22Speaker 4: Quiet woman?
- 38:23Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't like that.
- 38:24Speaker 4: And he started dating that girl, the girl that was
- 38:26Speaker 4: the girl he dated for a while, but there was
- 38:28Speaker 4: no spark and they're not together anymore.
- 38:31Speaker 2: But either way, I didn't like that he picked that location.
- 38:33Speaker 2: There's plenty of understand that.
- 38:36Speaker 4: We had a conversation about it.
- 38:38Speaker 5: Do you apologize or he was like, Oh, it's just
- 38:40Speaker 5: my favorite place.
- 38:41Speaker 4: He grew up. He grew up in Newpark. So he said,
- 38:45Speaker 4: I've been going there since I'm twenty one, and my
- 38:49Speaker 4: my answer was, yeah, I've been going there a lot
- 38:51Speaker 4: less years than your place. You need to piss you
- 38:56Speaker 4: through the plane's place.
- 38:59Speaker 5: That's your as to him. Likes to say that's your
- 39:02Speaker 5: iconic moment.
- 39:03Speaker 4: But so I said, if it's important enough for you
- 39:07Speaker 4: to claim that territory, then it might come with consequences.
- 39:11Speaker 4: And it did.
- 39:12Speaker 1: When it comes to the cheating thing with my girlfriends
- 39:14Speaker 1: who've been cheated on, I feel like the guys always
- 39:16Speaker 1: cheat down.
- 39:17Speaker 5: Oh always, because that's gonna make.
- 39:19Speaker 1: Make them feel better about themselves. Like when Kelsey cheated
- 39:22Speaker 1: on Camille and then like the girl's picture came out,
- 39:25Speaker 1: I was like, what you left Camille hot body for
- 39:28Speaker 1: that situation? That was weird, But I feel like it's common.
- 39:32Speaker 1: Do you feel like David cheated down?
- 39:34Speaker 3: Yes?
- 39:35Speaker 4: Okay, oh the cheat one absolutely.
- 39:41Speaker 5: Silent.
- 39:42Speaker 2: But guys times I have to go on too her
- 39:45Speaker 2: instagram like a freaking loser.
- 39:47Speaker 4: Oh no, no, that's the current wife. That's a different person.
- 39:50Speaker 5: I get really excited every time they file.
- 39:53Speaker 4: That's the that's the wife, that's the w that's the
- 40:00Speaker 4: way God.
- 40:02Speaker 3: That's different from David's divorce attorney is my divorce attorney.
- 40:08Speaker 1: Yeah, he's the happiest.
- 40:10Speaker 3: You don't want to fuck with, not want to with
- 40:14Speaker 3: the Monarchs best. If you guys need a divorce in
- 40:18Speaker 3: your Orange County, Danny and Michael Monarch are your guys.
- 40:23Speaker 3: I'm telling you.
- 40:24Speaker 4: I said this on the Reunion a second season. David's
- 40:28Speaker 4: a fair got football seats at USC like literally eight
- 40:33Speaker 4: rows in front of us, so we would see them.
- 40:36Speaker 4: They would literally walk up the staircase with the girl
- 40:38Speaker 4: he was with, the with the husband, like they never
- 40:40Speaker 4: got divorced, and I would say, look at her and
- 40:43Speaker 4: look at me, what are you thinking?
- 40:45Speaker 2: But what I have noticed for very like women, affluent women,
- 40:51Speaker 2: they want to always give the illusion that marriages are perfect,
- 40:54Speaker 2: that everything's great.
- 40:55Speaker 3: So we and they're all banging each other, let's be honest.
- 40:58Speaker 5: Well not just that, but like just ship, Like why
- 41:00Speaker 5: why is women?
- 41:01Speaker 2: Can we not say, like, listen, there's really good fucking weeks,
- 41:04Speaker 2: and there's great weeks.
- 41:05Speaker 3: And there's bad.
- 41:06Speaker 5: There's some weeks where I really love it and I
- 41:08Speaker 5: would do anything for it.
- 41:09Speaker 2: In another reason, I'm like, who are you, I want
- 41:11Speaker 2: to kick your throat and the that's me nuts.
- 41:15Speaker 1: It's everyone, everyone who's honest.
- 41:18Speaker 3: One last question you guys. So Brabo has announced that
- 41:21Speaker 3: Braba Khan is in Las Vegas this year.
- 41:27Speaker 5: What are you?
- 41:27Speaker 3: And you both went to Brava Khan last year last November?
- 41:31Speaker 3: What was there any weird moments of Brava con anybody
- 41:34Speaker 3: treat you bad? Anybody that you.
- 41:39Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, the most bizarre thing that happened. I was
- 41:40Speaker 1: in your room and we were sharing glam. Yeah, and
- 41:43Speaker 1: this this woman walks in and just plops down in
- 41:47Speaker 1: the makeup chair and now it was my turn Genshaw,
- 41:50Speaker 1: and I didn't know who she was, and I'm like,
- 41:51Speaker 1: who's the pitch in the makeup chair that's not staying
- 41:54Speaker 1: in our room with us? And everybody's like, oh, that's
- 41:56Speaker 1: Genshaw from Salt Lake. And so one of the little
- 41:58Speaker 1: friends in the room filled me out on the whole story,
- 42:00Speaker 1: right because I'm a little behind, and I'm like, what
- 42:04Speaker 1: the fuck. I don't even think she's supposed to be here,
- 42:06Speaker 1: Like she was kind of banned from Bravocon.
- 42:08Speaker 2: Remember she got she escorted out right at the party
- 42:11Speaker 2: after the and then she had an entourage, and so
- 42:14Speaker 2: my room was next door to yours.
- 42:15Speaker 1: And the next thing I know, she's in my room
- 42:17Speaker 1: and she's plotting out how she's going to sleep in
- 42:19Speaker 1: my room because she was like, wait, you know she's
- 42:21Speaker 1: like a hotel room. No, she had no hotel room.
- 42:24Speaker 1: She had like three guys with her, and so.
- 42:27Speaker 3: The jewelist and the security guard yes, wait, and they
- 42:32Speaker 3: all four wanted to yes.
- 42:33Speaker 1: So they're like, one of us can sleep on the bank.
- 42:35Speaker 5: And she only has three women, right.
- 42:38Speaker 1: And Jen's like, I can sleep in your bed with you.
- 42:40Speaker 1: And I'm like, I don't know you. I have no
- 42:42Speaker 1: idea who you are. Why are you in my room?
- 42:44Speaker 4: Right?
- 42:44Speaker 1: It was so bizarre. And so then I was changing
- 42:47Speaker 1: into a jumpsuit to wear over to Bravocon and I
- 42:50Speaker 1: was getting with her kissed because she wouldn't get the
- 42:52Speaker 1: hell out of my room with all of her friends,
- 42:54Speaker 1: and I just happened to say, this jumpsuit looks a
- 42:56Speaker 1: lot cute around me than the one you're about to
- 42:58Speaker 1: be wearing.
- 42:59Speaker 5: Oh oh, by the way, we just.
- 43:06Speaker 4: Kay, is that an indication of what a great addition
- 43:09Speaker 4: you are this season? In real housewise?
- 43:12Speaker 1: I think what she needs to do with her new
- 43:13Speaker 1: outfit is belt it?
- 43:15Speaker 2: I don't think they have belts, and I don't think
- 43:17Speaker 2: you can belt because then you mbody.
- 43:21Speaker 1: She did have accessories on them in the yard.
- 43:24Speaker 2: She had sunglasses, sharings, yeah, and good and some good
- 43:30Speaker 2: hair too.
- 43:31Speaker 1: I think she kept her exceps. Well, why I thought
- 43:32Speaker 1: Teresa had to take her extensions out when she went
- 43:34Speaker 1: and I have really pretty hair.
- 43:36Speaker 2: Shannon, who is your best and worst experience of Bravo con?
- 43:40Speaker 4: I will say that the people that I was most
- 43:42Speaker 4: excited to meet was anyone from any of the below
- 43:44Speaker 4: Deck franchises. Really, as I am all, you watched one
- 43:49Speaker 4: and you were hooked? My friend, I love.
- 43:52Speaker 3: What do you want to go on below deck? Because
- 43:53Speaker 3: I have you have to pay just my fife. I
- 43:57Speaker 3: talked to casting.
- 43:58Speaker 4: I grew up on boats.
- 44:00Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I have seen you on some boats. Okay,
- 44:04Speaker 5: who is your favor? But then who was your least
- 44:06Speaker 5: favorite person? You have to pick both.
- 44:09Speaker 1: Well, I could say my favorite was seeing the Beverly
- 44:11Speaker 1: Hills cast because I hadn't seen them until long.
- 44:13Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I was so drunk.
- 44:14Speaker 3: I remember I was coming or going.
- 44:16Speaker 2: Well, I remember being in the room and Taylor's getting glammed,
- 44:20Speaker 2: and Vicky came in and she refused to speak any
- 44:23Speaker 2: words to me.
- 44:25Speaker 5: In your bed, I.
- 44:26Speaker 1: Remember you laying on the bed. You had a pink
- 44:28Speaker 1: suit on it.
- 44:28Speaker 2: Yeah, And I was like waiting to get touched up.
- 44:31Speaker 2: And Vicky came in and we're like can we put
- 44:33Speaker 2: music on? And she goes, can you turn this down?
- 44:36Speaker 2: It's annoying, and.
- 44:37Speaker 5: When I was like, yes, I'd much rather awkward silence. Silence.
- 44:41Speaker 3: Remember when she left, She's like, bye Tamra, Bye Tommy.
- 44:44Speaker 3: And she didn't say anything to you.
- 44:46Speaker 5: By the way, did you notice that our interview was Ramona.
- 44:49Speaker 5: She would not acknowledge me as a human being.
- 44:52Speaker 3: She know your name, Well, fine.
- 44:55Speaker 4: It's happened to me.
- 44:55Speaker 2: But.
- 44:58Speaker 1: What do you mean?
- 44:59Speaker 5: Like what did she think?
- 45:00Speaker 3: She thought she was Gina.
- 45:01Speaker 4: She would just ga no, She's like, do you have kids?
- 45:04Speaker 4: I would say, how's Avery? Do you have kids?
- 45:06Speaker 1: Gina from OSTI?
- 45:07Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's Romona. She's been like that.
- 45:09Speaker 4: She finally apologized and said I'm sorry that she's always.
- 45:13Speaker 5: Trying to say. But I would be like, so, Romona,
- 45:16Speaker 5: how are your kids?
- 45:17Speaker 2: Like I'm just giving a vague thing, and she'd be
- 45:19Speaker 2: like camera let me tell you.
- 45:21Speaker 5: And I was like, I just fucking asked you the question.
- 45:26Speaker 2: And then I go, finally halfway through, because she wouldn't
- 45:29Speaker 2: even make eye contact with me through zoom, I go, I.
- 45:32Speaker 5: Have a question, and this is something from an ego way.
- 45:34Speaker 5: I just was really curious. I go, do you know
- 45:36Speaker 5: my name?
- 45:38Speaker 2: And she was like yeah, uh, Teddy, medal Line, Medelene
- 45:47Speaker 2: come and I was like uh.
- 45:50Speaker 3: And I even asked her, I go, do you know
- 45:51Speaker 3: her dad? Because that's like a very well known nurname, right,
- 45:54Speaker 3: and she's like, yeah, Sean Middleton. I'm like, no, I've never.
- 46:03Speaker 5: Had it's our first guest that you asked the blame question.
- 46:05Speaker 2: I'm like, why did you say all the Legacy people
- 46:07Speaker 2: were losers and now you're allegedly cast as one. And
- 46:10Speaker 2: she's like, well, I didn't mean it that way. I'm like, well,
- 46:12Speaker 2: then what way did you mean it?
- 46:14Speaker 3: Like, I'm not on it. That's romon Is, that is Romota.
- 46:17Speaker 3: That's why she's good TV. Yeah, and that's why they
- 46:20Speaker 3: need her.
- 46:21Speaker 1: And he did say her blood type is blanc, So
- 46:23Speaker 1: maybe we should just kind of keep that.
- 46:25Speaker 2: If you could pick any other franchise to be on,
- 46:28Speaker 2: which one would it be?
- 46:30Speaker 1: I know the answer for you, Tamra, because you like
- 46:32Speaker 1: to stir that pot.
- 46:33Speaker 4: New Jersey, Jersey, New York hands tand New York.
- 46:37Speaker 2: Even the new one now with the old if there was.
- 46:40Speaker 3: And then just put them out of the equation.
- 46:41Speaker 4: Who would you be Atlanta?
- 46:44Speaker 3: Oh, let's go Atlanta and Atlanta they would eat you up.
- 46:50Speaker 4: You know what they did us. You know what you're not.
- 46:53Speaker 4: You don't have a lot of confidence in me.
- 46:54Speaker 3: I don't because I need I like, I have no
- 46:58Speaker 3: fear and I know that season.
- 47:01Speaker 5: They don't drink enough in Atlanta.
- 47:03Speaker 3: Ye I need season nine, Shannon even nine.
- 47:07Speaker 1: What would you say, Well, what's the biggest party city? Miami?
- 47:11Speaker 2: Miami's where I'd want to be. I feel like I
- 47:13Speaker 2: would do mine. I would thrive the most, and.
- 47:16Speaker 3: I would need to get a DBL or whatever they're called.
- 47:19Speaker 2: Well, the next time you guys see me, and my
- 47:21Speaker 2: tits are bigger than my ass is bigger than my tits,
- 47:24Speaker 2: you're gonna be Maybe it's no.
- 47:27Speaker 3: Brazilian butt left.
- 47:29Speaker 2: Oh, like they suck stuff from everywhere and then they
- 47:32Speaker 2: put it in your butt.
- 47:34Speaker 5: No, you do not need one. You have a big
- 47:36Speaker 5: enough cameltal.
- 47:37Speaker 1: I mean I can get in the front.
- 47:39Speaker 3: You're gonna be you have a bigger butt than it's
- 47:41Speaker 3: gonna make your camel.
- 47:42Speaker 5: Toal even more. It's gonna be.
- 47:46Speaker 3: We are going out to lunch.
- 47:49Speaker 4: Oh and it continues. What time is it like?
- 47:52Speaker 3: We're going to meet a few more We're going to
- 47:54Speaker 3: meet a few more housewives. That's right.
- 47:55Speaker 1: We're gonna have some special guests.
- 47:56Speaker 3: Yes we are.
- 47:58Speaker 2: I'm on forty six and it's asleep and you can
- 48:01Speaker 2: you can sleep in the uber.
- 48:03Speaker 5: I can sleep when I'm dead. All right, you guys
- 48:06Speaker 5: for tuning in.
- 48:06Speaker 4: Please, thank for having me.
- 48:10Speaker 2: We have a very special episode coming with Tamra's mom
- 48:14Speaker 2: and sially my mom. I haven't even asked her yet
- 48:17Speaker 2: because I'm so embarrassed about all the things she could
- 48:20Speaker 2: potentially say about me, because I like to really pretend that,
- 48:23Speaker 2: like I have my sha.
- 48:25Speaker 3: I told my mom balls the wall, Mom, say whatever
- 48:27Speaker 3: you want.
- 48:27Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure Sandy's got that member.
- 48:29Speaker 3: Sandy's got it, Sandy has no fear.
- 48:32Speaker 1: Maybe you guys could have my mom on and you
- 48:34Speaker 1: could ease her into the season.
- 48:39Speaker 3: Thank you, guys, Thank you subscribe, listen, give us reviews,
- 48:44Speaker 3: Tell us, how great or how horrible we are.
- 48:46Speaker 5: Do all the things.
- 48:47Speaker 2: Just make sure that you put five stars and you
- 48:49Speaker 2: leave her review. Don't be lazy, just like actually write
- 48:52Speaker 2: something out, even if it's like Teddy is so amazing
- 48:55Speaker 2: and doesn't know the English language and Tarra doesn't know
- 48:59Speaker 2: how to say inner rusting.
- 49:01Speaker 4: Or champions championing, championing. Alright, bye bye, thank you
- 49:12Speaker 2: M hm