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104 | Ric Flair vs. Terry Funk - I Quit Match - Clash Of The Champions IX, 1989 · The ExtraCooler Show

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Welcome to Washington. This is Lord trakula and welcome
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Welcome back to a brand new homework episode of the extra
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cooler show. My name is Nick otherwise known
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over at the Discord Channel, which you can find in the show
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notes, right below this before we head to my match, Matt,
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you've got some housekeeping to do.
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Oh man. Jim, I don't know if you're
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gonna like this one. So last week Jim gave us, or
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referenced an article that was his, is it going to be ugly?
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26 losses by Hulk Hogan from cleanest to screw Eunice.
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There was a what culture article by that exact name, but
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unfortunately it was just 26 pins.
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So, we were talking last week around where this Lanny poffo.
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Match landed on that list of twenty six losses,
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unfortunately, the count Apple not count.
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So, yeah, I was in the ballpark like, yeah, the answer was on
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second base. Now is often the concessions.
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Buying one of those like beer that, you know, the beer bath.
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Yeah. That's the arrows in the
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building but, you know, not not right.
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That it was a Hogan article about him losing and yeah, our
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match just wasn't on it so much Andrew.
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Andrew on the Discord again, coming up with the correction
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stating that he shared the, he shared the article months ago,
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weeks ago, whatever it was. And the top five for you
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interested in hearing the top, five screwiest Hogan losses.
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Number five was against Vampiro on Monday, Nitro 04 was Mike.
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Awesome. Number three was staying at Fall
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Brawl 1999. Now I thought the The Articles
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from 1984 to 2000. But number two on their list was
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Sting Bound for Glory in TNA night in 2011.
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And then the number one screwiest match of Hogan losing
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via pinfall is against the giant Halloween Havoc. 1995 gentlemen,
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I think we have found our Halloween episode for 2023.
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Yes. The spurious Hogan boss of all
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time. That's what he's lying off the
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building. There's a monster truck match.
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Yeah, we've we've, oh, hell yeah.
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We found it like humps. And hey, what ya said humph?
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Humph day? Finally, a Yeti sex episode?
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She beat you to it with the Jesus.
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Do you have any more housekeeping to do now?
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That's it brother. Thank you.
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I think that was enough. I'm going to take it away.
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So this week, our final homework match is my match and the guys
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gave me the following stipulations.
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Matt stipulation was that it has to involve someone, I've drawn
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Jim stipulation, was it has to include someone who had an ljn
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figure, and then Mike stipulation was, it has to have
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a vignette or an interview before the match that was easily
4:04
the hardest part of this. Because I can find a match and
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I'd be like oh God damn it. There's no vignette or interview
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before this man, because you were always mr.
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Against the vignettes against like the 10.
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Most that's why I show wanted to come up with that.
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I mean, you got the rubber toys, you get something you draw and
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then like throw that little wrinkle look through, like, 47
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matches, whatever unicycle work to like, actually go through the
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like a fast forward. Fast forward.
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Damn it? No, that's like part of the
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beauty. That's Why I think I enjoyed
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this whole stipulation piece you know coming into this this this
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guy was going to call it a trilogy but there's four idiot
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but yeah these four matches that we've covered.
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It's been a lot of fun to try to find something within the chaos
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and dive in deeper and I feel like this one delivered
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big-time. Oh yeah and as the other three
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did as well but I'm hardest when I especially like things are
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going to be like a year from the I know the yeti has to make love
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in a match, you know. So they're like, Tobar, I think
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I've made it clear that one of my favorite Parts about doing
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this. This podcast is to actually do
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real homework, every once in a while and learn something new.
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So that was kind of my goal when I picked this match and my match
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is Clash of the Champions. 9 New York knockout.
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Terry Funk verse Ric Flair the I Quit match.
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This match takes place actually like 10 days before or after The
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match that we just covered last week that she is first, Hulk
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Hogan coincidence, which is wild.
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It's from November of 1989. And man, it's a good one.
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As Matt said, just to kind of give you a little bit, this Feud
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is coming right off the heels of the iconic, Ricky Steamboat and
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Ric Flair Trilogy which actually ends with Terry Funk who's there
6:01
in the final and third match and he's present.
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He's there too. Serve as a judge as a deciding
6:08
factor if necessary and you know that ignites his Feud with Flare
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right after that. Yeah I don't have much more
6:17
backstory. So before we actually dive into
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opened put in number two. Cheers boys.
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All right, so ready. So this week, the match I have
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brought once again is from clash of Champions, 9 New York
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knockout, it is season 2 Five, Terry Funk versus Ric Flair in
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an I Quit match. This starts at 1 hour and 19
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minutes and the crazy part about this is this is broadcasted on
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TBS. It comes to from Troy New York,
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which is super unique. That's a nice way of putting it.
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Yeah. It's it's at the college to I
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think yes, yes. Yep, the RPI Fieldhouse it is an
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NWA You a event November 15. 1989 weird for them to be up in
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New York. Yes.
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Oh it's so that's definitely the most bizarre thing is that
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they're there. New York knockout.
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Yeah. But destroy New York.
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Yeah. Out of all, the places Troy, New
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York is, where you make one quick thing about Troy.
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I'll never forget when I first went to college at Buffalo,
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people were asking, you know, where you from, where you from?
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Someone said Troy is some of those, huh?
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Troy lit. I was like, oh, Guys, doomed for
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years, looks like game over app. So for those that are not up on
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your New York State Geography. Here Troy is pretty much Central
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like east-central here. It's right outside of Albany New
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York, which is the state capital.
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But you're looking at what probably 150 miles, 200 miles,
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north of Manhattan. So this is layering this in as
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New York. It's definitely.
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Yeah. It's like Marshawn.
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Lynch getting out to Buffalo, right?
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Yeah. Getting out there.
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He's like this ain't New York. Yeah, I think Troy I think has
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an IHOP maybe and that's probably bad.
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Yeah, but RPI is the is the technical institute that's out
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there and this was absolutely on the campus in the RPI field
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house. So so I have to fulfill my
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stipulations and the first One is that it starts with a Ric,
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Flair pre-recorded comments for Terry Funk basically explaining
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how he'll quit. And I don't want to sit here
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and, you know, blabber on and quote Flair, because I believe
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Matt brought it this week, right?
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We to, I shaved it down a little bit, so it's only about, you
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know, 45 seconds or so. But I feel like in the intro
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here, flare does everything that you need to sell, why this match
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is important. So let's take a listen.
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I think about this to make the other.
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Say, I quit on a nationally televised program before
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millions of people, that's humiliating that's disgraceful,
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that's the end. Think about it national
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television, I quit. Well, I look at it like this,
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I'm the world champion, but if I say I quit I've done for you.
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You've got nothing to lose. You're the pride of Texas,
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you're learning the true grapes on this sport so to like turn
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Funk, it's no man's land. It's a crash course, but the
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bottom line is whoo. The be the man, you got to beat
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the man. Whoo.
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It's so good. And that like you said, it's so
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important, but to take just a step back, this is another
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Trilogy, and I love diving in and learning a little bit about
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wrestling history and diving into this Feud.
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But we're specifically here to cover this match and not dive
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into the craziness that got us here because there is a bunch of
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crazy things that happen along the way that I read about.
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I watched a little bit. Of but I don't feel like I could
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speak fully about the whole Feud will have to watch the rest of
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it, because it was, this was all new to all of us, right?
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So, I mean, like, it's fun to go into this, with, like eyes wide
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open and just not knowing anything, really?
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Yeah, yeah, it's 1989. NWA WCW and that blurred line in
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between the two of them is like totally foreign for for us, you
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know, at least I can speak for myself, then 1989 like, if I was
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turning on TBS and wrestling it was on sure.
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Was going to stay on the television, but I don't know
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what the hell I was watching, and there was no story lines
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attached to it and things like that.
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But it's crazy to me that this match and in general was on TBS
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to like, I think what maybe I'm just used to, you know, being
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precondition for pay-per-views and, you know, finding the as on
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on, you know, what was the network now?
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Peacock of like, just old pay-per-views and even when it
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has like Clash of Champions associated with it, you still
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think or precondition to think this feels like a Gong end.
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Blind. It felt like a yeah for me, I'm
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like, oh, this is a pay-per-view clearly.
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But yeah, there's a few TBS superstation signs hanging out
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hanging banners, hanging up but other it's a premium live event.
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I mean it is, it is and when you go back and look at some of the
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names that are on the card, it's it's wild.
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How many people are on this card?
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Matt that promo you play Del real quick to go back to Rick.
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Is that the one where he's standing in front of like what
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looks like? Yeah, you know like the thing
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that Her puts yeah, he has stick with the blood.
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All looks like blood splatters all over the wall.
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It didn't have like there's like black splatters to if it didn't
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have that yet what in the world, right?
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We are talking about how this is a stack card.
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I know the Road Warriors are there.
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Yeah, yeah. One weird inkling.
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I want to mention about that is the announcer, calls them, the
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Legion of Doom, the Road Warriors.
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Yeah. What's up with that?
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I didn't I always thought. Yeah.
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This is really where our lack of knowledge of this like is
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obvious, right, right? I always thought Legion of Doom
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has exclusively. That's what I WF and they
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agreed. We're getting away from Road
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Warriors. You also have this the Steiners
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in this on this card before and Rick is shown up, looking like
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he's got like, Adam Sandler from the wedding singers hair.
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Yeah, the things I did not expect.
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No, it's jarring to see that watching.
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Rick to talk in a promo was bizarre to.
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Go back and watch it. Definitely go back in time.
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The whole thing is worse, enjoy for yourself.
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It's about an hour and a half this whole event.
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Yes, not. So there's some interesting
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things of note but first, we'll start off with the intros, Terry
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phone comes out and mind you. This is like cowboy Heart of
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Texas Terry Funk, he's the heel, he gets a ton of booze, we've
17:02
been debating the four of us because the music that he comes
17:05
out to, we're kind of suspecting that it might The his actual you
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know, WCW NWA entrance music by the peacock.
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Yeah there's no way it's Crystal Clear but it's pretty badass.
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The the entrance if you ask me, same genre like we listen to
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what it probably 1989 is the ennio morricone, right?
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Like Mikey work rate think provided that the man was
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something I forgot - good the man with the harmonica.
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Yeah. And it's real, that's really
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good too and this is in the same vein but to us I was like oh
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this is his music. Awesome very cinematic.
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Yes yes then flare comes out. And so the first thing that you
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know I hate to sound like I really don't know what I'm
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talking about, but it was strange for me to see such a
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baby face Ric Flair right off the bat I guess because really
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our first true introduction to Ric Flair was in 92 91 when he
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came over to WWF. And obviously, I've known that
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he's bounced around from heel to face.
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But this was like Vici clean. Yes, squeaky-clean Troy, New
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York was all over me. Got pyro in the RPI, send feel
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like here of my talking to the fans.
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He goes how big man what's been giving him high fives.
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High five baby. Yeah.
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How you doing, baby? Like walking down the road to
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the ring with four girls on his arms and like sobbing Flair.
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Oh yeah. My so not gonna baby fist that
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baby face thing like the look is absurd.
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He's like, looks like such a wrestling freak.
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The hairs like Peak are yes, women like you said, everything
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is like on point here is large, but even, even talking about
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Terry funks, entrance was engaging to me as well.
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He's walking down with The Branding Iron and he's fast,
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threatening to swing it at the crowd.
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That's walking by. There is one woman that like he
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fake swings at him like you would with like a baseball bat,
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right? And she jumps out of her.
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She who's the little kid next to her?
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It's like creeps up on her arm, it was It was very, very well
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done and I really enjoyed this piece of Terry Funk.
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He was so good. I'm really glad that you've
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nicked that you picked a Terry Funk match because it's really
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not something aside from like Chainsaw, Charlie shit.
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You know, like I'm right here are familiar with no, not at
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all. So this was really cool.
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Thanks. So, how crazy is this?
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He's in his like, mid 40s during this match and he's in
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incredible shape. That was the first thing I
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noticed when the right, when the match starts, I'm like, holy
19:34
shit. Terry Funk looks great.
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And been around forever easily the best we've ever seen him
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like yesudas ripped off. But this yeah, like just felt
19:46
it. Yeah, word that I was thinking
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about, but muscular had tone, like looks like a fairly pricey
19:52
dad. Just had a grass like parties
19:56
and wearing underwear over tights.
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Yeah, you don't know like any movie where they showed old man
20:02
gets woken up here if they're wearing like those like long
20:04
johns. Like yes.
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It's like a baggie tights. It looks like yeah, my Dad
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wears, those come on dad but I got friends coming over right
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before the match starts Terry Funk gets on the microphone and
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he gives flare a chance to quit before the match even starts.
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It's it's so good man. Terry Funk.
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You see the shades of that Chainsaw Charlie?
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Like just the way he moves. Like that was our real true
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introduction to Terry Funk in. The 90s we're not going to act
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like we watched him at this point but he's wild and he's
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loose. He's all over the place.
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I absolutely love it. The way he flails his body
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throughout the the guardrail at one point flips himself over and
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like loses his balance completely and swings really
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horrible. Like I just took it back.
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Yes just like with the with the bat and I'm like oh my God him
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if he connected with that thing that kid would be out cold.
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Yeah. Another bad day of the iron.
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Yeah. Cattle prod, whatever it is, but
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he does it and he does it so well, he's like Aiming High.
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But like yeah. Oh my God, it was killed that
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kid. And flare starts this match off.
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Hot, chopping him so hard. That the chops are like
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deafening in this match. It's not like, it's not like a
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false name is Rhonda because of the chop.
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Yes, you're one of them is just like you hear it.
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It's like he blows them up. It's amazing.
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Yep. That's a small Arena to so it's
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gonna Anna. Yeah, you're gonna, you're gonna
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hear everything I like it. Excuse me.
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How Funk focuses on on flares neck, very early in this match
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and then flare kind of gives it back to him, because real Chip e
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like the a very much after he's throwing swings at the, at the
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fans in the guardrail. There he comes back into the
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ring and you know, if he knocks flare down and then immediately
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Flair takes the leg and just like starts.
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Choking yes, it's crazy. Like not like a Chokehold like
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alright we're working brother, like this was a flare jumping up
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Undertaker. Like he's setting up for a
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chokeslam. Grabbing this dude by the
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throat. And yes, shit, what are we from
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shaving? Right, let's go for.
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He always I didn't even think of that part but like flare is the
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true baby face? Yes, match.
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And that one was like, all right.
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Turn the ignition were into high gear right now.
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So So I normally especially these modern day, I quit matches
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with the microphone. I for some reason I can't stand
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them. Yeah.
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And I think it's because like so I saw the microphone in this
22:49
match with the referee holding it pretty much most of the match
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and then both guys taking turns with it.
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And I think I appreciate it this because it wasn't like the the
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thing you heard like nowadays if there's a microphone involved
23:04
everybody and their mother can hear it throughout the arena,
23:07
whereas It's like it's like a microphone in the late 80s you
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know like you can faintly hear it you know it sounds like
23:14
someone brought a karaoke microphone.
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Yeah it's like from the Middle School video shop.
23:21
Whatever you had like rude. But like originally I thought to
23:24
myself like oh no, there's a microphone involved with this
23:27
and we're gonna have to deal with the ref chasing him around,
23:29
but they do such a good job. At each, taking turns with the
23:33
microphone like using Funk uses, the microphone quite a bit
23:37
during During this match, he holds it up to flare multiple
23:41
times asking him if he quits and you know it's really well done
23:44
Funk trips over the wire at one point.
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Oh definitely does. Yeah, so there's two.
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There's two microphones to one is wired and then one is
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Wireless. Yes, I was like all right.
23:54
Cool, a 1989. Here we go, baby.
23:57
So I don't like the one wrapped the, the one raft.
24:00
The only raft that like hold it with two hands though.
24:02
Yeah. Why don't you sing two hands.
24:06
It's a good call. I noticed it but it didn't
24:09
subconsciously click that it was weird, but now looking back, I'm
24:12
like oh shit, that is really weird.
24:14
We forgot to mention on commentary is Jim Ross and
24:17
Gordon solie I am Gordon solie I'm here to cover the yeti.
24:22
Making love to his opponent. So many sounds like I yeah
24:28
pretty much these these to give it such an old-school feeling
24:33
like yes. Oh man it like it.
24:36
Instantly Gordon solie In particular, like instantly goes
24:39
and makes it feel like it's a smoky dark dank wrestling Arena
24:44
wrastlin from, you know, like the 70s and 80s and ultimately,
24:47
we're right at the cusp of getting out of that and, you
24:49
know, getting things to bigger and brighter.
24:51
But man, solely, just delivers and young.
24:55
Ross is awesome. I yeah, he's so good.
24:58
He's like really is and has a different vibe.
25:01
Yes. He's got like, he's young, you
25:03
know. Yeah, more energy.
25:05
Yeah. He's he's not falling into like
25:07
his Nazi is a stick. But like, you know, he's right
25:10
his lines that this point he's established.
25:12
But back then, he's like doing his thing and just going for it,
25:15
right? And I don't know it.
25:16
He really elevates the match even though I totally agree to.
25:20
So, we also haven't really painted a picture, like Matt,
25:23
you kind of touched on it with, like these shows.
25:27
But it doesn't feel like overly produced like WWF does at this
25:32
time in late 80s, early 90s. It's still got that like it's in
25:36
a field house. And it's still kind of dark and
25:39
the guardrails and the camera angles and the Coors Light
25:44
padding on this outside turnbuckle.
25:47
I love that detail. Oh it's so good.
25:49
I'm a college campus. Yeah so they I listen to I sent
25:54
you guys the link to it Ric Flair's podcast he does a watch
25:59
along to this match and first of all, the first thing I thought
26:02
is the Wonder Ric Flair's podcast didn't last very long
26:05
because it sucks but He did have some interesting.
26:09
He did have some interesting notes.
26:11
He doesn't talk a lot. He's just like, no laughing.
26:13
Yeah. Right strutting around the room
26:16
with his fucking head gear on them.
26:18
So yeah. He's on his side Ric Flair drip,
26:21
that's 100% 100%. So the things of note though
26:25
that I found that were interesting from his his episode
26:29
with this. They reference.
26:33
How Funk was like the wrestler of the 70s and flare was a
26:36
wrestler of the 80s and appropriately.
26:39
Jim Ross was the announcer of the 80s and Gordon.
26:42
Sully was what they could somebody now, that's the 70s,
26:45
awesome point. I love that he also of note
26:49
which I didn't realize until I re-watched it Conrad.
26:54
Who I also can't stand points out how flare you know, Terry
26:59
Funk. One of his big moves is the
27:01
Piledriver and he does it to flare on the outside of the ring
27:04
and the way flare tries to protect himself.
27:07
He puts both of his hands on flares like ankle on funks
27:12
ankles as he goes up for a pile driver.
27:15
And he said it was to kind of protect himself because he
27:19
nobody ever felt safe, taking a pile driver from anybody,
27:22
really? And that was his own thing, that
27:25
he kind of came up with to protect his head, which if you
27:28
watch it, it's a week. Piledriver here.
27:31
He takes two of them because at this point, you know, they were
27:34
really playing up flares. Broken neck.
27:36
Yes. Oh So him going after and taking
27:40
to pile drivers, were really driving home.
27:42
How brutal this was and how aggressive Funk was towards
27:47
flare and taking him out. Swinging neckbreaker to in
27:50
there. Yeah.
27:51
Yeah but you know just going back there were a few really
27:55
like golden nuggets here. Coming from the announce team
27:58
from from my standpoint at least.
28:00
Yeah, there were a couple that Jr.
28:03
Hits. He was talking about it getting
28:05
really physical on the outside. They're Up against the guard
28:08
rail. And they are taking it to the
28:11
streets here. I've never seen anything quite
28:13
this. Physical.
28:14
I thought was really, really amazing.
28:16
Gordon. Solie comes in strong with five
28:18
letters. Two words, I quit.
28:21
And I was just like, this is, like, painting the picture.
28:24
It's really like got a old-school, like radio Vibe, you
28:27
know, you're watching television.
28:29
It was, it added so much to this match.
28:32
I really, really loved it. And JR, says, after the pile
28:36
driver that there's I Is under the floor because of the ice
28:39
hockey. It's like double.
28:41
Yes. I like it dangerous.
28:43
You know what? That is two words broadcast
28:46
journalism right there. So re also so, you know, we
28:52
talked about having stipulations for this match and I fulfilled
28:56
Mike stipulation with having the flare interview.
29:00
I've drawn Ric Flair. A number of times never drawn
29:03
Terry Funk which actually, right?
29:04
Well, as I was waiting for you guys, I started kind of doodling
29:07
Tears in your wheelhouse. I feel like I know you could
29:10
have a good one. I feel like, how come I have not
29:12
drawn this man. Then the best part in the best
29:16
part though. In the front row of the crowd,
29:19
there is a sign and I didn't even write down what the sign
29:23
says, but it's got the ljn Terry Funk taped to the bottom of this
29:30
and this, that incredible. So the sign has like, you know,
29:35
I heart New York is the Lingo, it's been that way forever.
29:38
And it's got the heart with NY on the inside and it says, NY
29:43
has a flair for Funk and then it's got the ljn on the poster
29:48
board and I'd be happy once. But once you, once you see it,
29:54
and once you see where the guy is, when they're like, battling
29:57
on the outside of the ring, you'll see it again, you're
29:59
destined to pick this match, I know.
30:01
Yeah, it was perfect, and I think Terry Funk actually has
30:04
The Branding Iron. Yes.
30:06
With the figure on the Poster, which is like even more
30:09
impressive. Make you did not have that LG n
30:12
though, right? No, I did not.
30:13
Okay. No I did not.
30:15
That was the hardest part about this because originally, I've
30:17
been, I've been pushing for Hulk Hogan versus Terry Funk from
30:22
from the 80s on Saturday, night's main event.
30:24
And when you said, you found the genius Hogan, I was like, well,
30:27
I can't do Saturday night's main event and also and mashes your
30:30
Flair Undertaker. That is that is I will maybe I
30:33
went I want to do it anymore after watching this one though.
30:37
This is there's like some really raw moments in.
30:40
This match, there's one at one point Flair goes from like let's
30:44
say the one side of the outside of the ring and like leaps over.
30:49
What would be the WWF stairs and jumps onto funks back and they
30:55
land on top of the guardrail? It's like it looks like an
30:58
actual fight like he's pissed that Terry Fong for something
31:01
comes. It doesn't know where.
31:03
Yeah, he does it twice during the match of flare just out of
31:07
nowhere jumps. Hang on funks back.
31:09
It's it's really a cool visual to and both of these guys are
31:12
always known for their selling but man I you can appreciate it
31:17
like crazy watching this match and for me, like, funks sell job
31:23
of everything is like outshines Ric Flair.
31:27
And that's that's pretty rare because Ric Flair is known for
31:31
his cells. Funk is like a raw way of doing
31:35
it. I feel.
31:35
Yes. Agreed, it looks.
31:37
Real almost believable. Yeah both guys look really tough
31:43
in this match. It's around like the 15-minute
31:46
Mark its twenty minute match, its around the 15-minute Mark
31:48
where flare starts working the leg finally on Funk.
31:53
And I don't know, man. This looks like what you would
31:58
imagine. I quit matches and I referenced
32:00
this with, I don't remember which one I reference this
32:05
recently talking about blood in a match.
32:07
He was like on the no Liam episode with the Johnny Gargano,
32:11
and the flare mentioned, how Troy New York, they were not
32:16
allowed to bleed, and that's why there's no blood.
32:18
He goes, he, he was asked about the blood and he said, oh, I
32:22
would have been bleeding like a stuck pig.
32:24
But we're not, we weren't allowed to enjoy New York, so I
32:27
thought that was pretty interesting.
32:29
My dad added a half, a can in the cooler honestly.
32:32
Yeah, I agree. So the match goes about, 20
32:36
minutes long. Long.
32:37
And these guys look exhausted. Did anybody notice some of these
32:42
signs in the crowd where, like people look like they have
32:44
stitched on like woo? And I quit like, it looks like
32:48
their grandmother sewed. These signs.
32:50
There's the yeah. One looks like a flag.
32:52
It looks like a frat boy. Like, you know.
32:55
Yeah. You've always got the Fret.
32:56
The fraternity flag. Like flying outside the frat
32:59
house. It looked like he took the flag
33:00
down and just sewed. I quit onto a red flag and he's
33:04
holding it up at the guardrail. So it was, it was Different.
33:08
It was is, I mean, it is a Polytechnic University.
33:11
Yeah. Learning that their whole neck
33:16
like an engineer and they can sell their well, they only
33:19
technical. They can also be security team
33:22
because at one point Jr, is like, the crowd, is getting
33:25
closer to the ring and standing. I'm glad we've got security
33:28
here. And then if you like look, you
33:29
pan over to the security guard, it's like a 19, 20 year-old kid
33:33
that's us in a yellow t-shirt. That's probably a part of the
33:37
hockey. Team that the reference with the
33:39
ice being underneath the floor, and they're watching the match
33:41
more than they're watching the crowd, totally.
33:44
All right, I'm gonna whip these guys are gonna do Jr there.
33:47
There's one part towards the end before the figure, for where
33:51
flare does attempts like a suplex on Funk on to the outside
33:58
apron and, which is like a move, that's overdone right now.
34:01
And it's like every wrestler, does it and, and it's ugly but
34:05
it he barely hit. And it's sloppy.
34:08
It's very the you can see how exhausted they are.
34:11
Yeah. And, but they are, is trying to
34:13
call it. Yeah.
34:14
That's actually a brilliant. Making it huge and he's like,
34:18
yeah, stumbles across, I mean, in the moment, if they pulled it
34:21
off, it would have been, you know, amazing and it was still
34:25
really cold. Like I said, 20 minutes into
34:26
this absolute brawl. Like this was just a yeah, we're
34:30
all. So here we are.
34:32
One of the benefits is benefits. I don't depends how you look at
34:35
it. There's zero rest holds in this.
34:37
Match on if you like, think about it, not one and it's not
34:40
until like the very end where we finally see Flair who goes and
34:45
attempts and locks on the figure four and it's the first time in
34:49
the match that he does it and it just shows how you know,
34:53
important it is holding out that it's not like he's attempting
34:55
it, the entire match trying to get him to quit, he gets it on
34:59
and Terry Funk sells it man. The Mike is in his face at one
35:04
point, he takes the referee and pulls him the referee Over the
35:08
top of them while the figure for is applied and then eventually
35:12
quits and the match is over, its man.
35:16
It was really good God, my leg, it's breaking.
35:18
Yeah, it's breaking. I can't do a good Terry Funk.
35:22
They, you know, you glossed over the fact that like 16 minutes
35:27
into the match or whatever it was flare really starts working
35:31
on the way. Yes.
35:32
And you know it's an all-out brawl which is right up Terry
35:35
Funk, Sally, flares. Has given it back to him the
35:39
entire time and then technically flare just turns it on and he
35:43
starts attacking the knee and really telling that story of
35:47
setting up the figure-four and finally, he locks it in and the
35:51
crowd absolutely erupts. Like, go back and listen to the
35:55
pot, that just him locking in the figure for get gets, it's,
36:00
it's amazing. And then, you think they're out.
36:02
Really. Either know, we talked about the
36:04
numbers wise, though, it's like I don't even know, like NXT kind
36:08
of like yes. Right.
36:10
Yeah. Like the probably a good
36:11
comparison 2000 P2000 would have been what?
36:14
I say. Three Max.
36:15
And it's not empty seats up top. Yeah, it looks like a, like you
36:18
said before, it looks like a lot of like college Frat, Boys, like
36:22
they're going together like the way they're celebrating flares
36:25
Victory. Going out there going with flair
36:27
to the IHOP later that's here. Am I before we give a Kansan
36:34
cooler you know, post-match as Miss Terry, Funk, grabs, the
36:38
microphone. And despite the protests of his
36:41
manager, Gary Hart, we haven't even talked about.
36:44
Yeah, I was with him. He shakes flares hand.
36:47
Like he said, he would, and declares them one, hell of a
36:50
man. And right after that, Gary
36:52
Hart's, clocks him knocks him out, cold and just pandemonium.
36:57
Erupts, heart turns on Funk, then the j8x, corporation rushes
37:03
to the ring beating down flare. So to go go back to that, you've
37:08
got the great muda who's out there.
37:10
He's beaten down on flare, then, Lex Luger comes down, helps the
37:15
great mood out. It's, it's wild.
37:19
What's happening in the ring after this.
37:22
It's amazing. There's already tired.
37:25
He had a good time and now you're yes at me like oh my God.
37:29
So here's here's where I noticed those yellow shirt like security
37:33
guards at one point. Did you know, did you pick up on
37:35
this? Because Lex Luger.
37:37
So in the top left hand corner, Luger goes to grab, a chair and
37:42
the security guard like fights them off.
37:45
Like that. He hopes will not.
37:46
Let him grab the chair. Like this kid is like, you're
37:49
not grabbing that chair. I know what you're going to.
37:51
Do with it. But anyway, the Yanks it away
37:53
from either wind it a few times just to see our PI gave went
37:57
rogue or something. Yeah, Sting comes down now.
38:01
Sting comes out to hopefully rescue and no to no avail Luger
38:07
Luger. Then proceeds to go back and he
38:10
destroys this trophy that that flare was given your rule of
38:15
Lex, Luger, more than right now. And he just starts the trophy
38:18
looks like, oh, Lex Luger test. So I know this You this makes
38:23
you want to go dive into Lex, Luger and Chad from the top down
38:27
ever. And no, he says he goes.
38:29
I know you guys Chad said this to us back in the fall.
38:32
How I know you guys trash or Lex Luger, but gotta go back and
38:36
watch Luger and pillman's Feud. All right, he says it's worth
38:39
it. So I don't know.
38:41
We should do that. I'm all-in.
38:43
Like, after washing these things, like I said, I think,
38:47
you know, it's fresh eyes. We always talk about it and it,
38:51
Based on this yet, had imagined this event.
38:55
It's legit watching something for the first time and it's
38:58
legit doing homework, like learning about like wrestling
39:02
history. Yeah.
39:04
And this is because because this is a 5 Star match.
39:07
Like. According to Dave Meltzer, a
39:09
five star maps. That will tell us what I didn't
39:11
look. Yeah, yeah, Yep.
39:14
This is a five-star, so, Matt, you look like you want to add
39:18
something sorry. Oh I was just going to say that
39:20
a sealed retro helped us out and gave us a little bit of
39:23
background on the wrestling Observer.
39:26
And what they were saying about it, and yes, Meltzer gave it
39:29
five stars and just the intro to the review was if there was ever
39:35
a match, that should be in every pro wrestling tutorial.
39:39
It's this one. It was simply perfect, both
39:41
Flair and Funk, demonstrated exactly why they are so revered
39:45
in pro wrestling. They're Formance was a clinic on
39:48
how to be a pro wrestler and then it continues on with just a
39:52
master class in Psychology intensity and match structure
39:55
that everyone who dares to call themselves a wrestling fan
39:58
should watch. This is pivotal memorable and
40:00
epic match on many top 10 list for a reason.
40:04
Take a guess at where this landed on the WWE Network. 100
40:08
best matches before you die. Was it even on there?
40:11
It was. Yep, this is not a trick
40:13
question this time. It's not, it's not in like the
40:18
top 20. It was.
40:20
Yeah, I was gonna say. Yeah, I'm gonna go 69, oh, I
40:25
Gotta Give 171 number 2012. Wow.
40:29
Over 20. Yeah, I don't remember it's easy
40:31
to attract anyway. I guess because all the
40:33
steamboat, all the steamboat ones were higher.
40:36
Yes. But you know for me diving into
40:39
cans in the cooler. If I, if you if you're okay yeah
40:42
give this 14 and a half and I think you said it before like
40:46
Maybe in passing Jim, you said, if there was blood, it may have
40:51
pushed it up even higher. And this instance, it may have
40:55
been able to get you up even higher.
40:57
It's the 4.75 5.0 category. This one was just a breath of
41:04
fresh air, it was so cool to go back and watch.
41:08
And the reason why I give it four and a half is that this
41:12
match was truly ahead of its time?
41:15
Like this is 1989. Nine.
41:17
And if you were to take this match today, drop it on Dynamite
41:21
tonight, it would be right in line with what is go.
41:25
Yeah. Oh 100% the Finish.
41:28
Yeah, you can argue the Finish wouldn't be the same and
41:30
present-day wrestling but regardless these to put on an
41:33
absolute Banger in, everything that in 2023 would deliver you,
41:38
it just without flips, and shit like that.
41:41
So four and a half for me, and it's really what?
41:46
30 40. Years ahead of its time.
41:47
Yeah it even has Cowboy shit. Would you give up Jim?
41:57
Are we alone? I'm gonna go with, I'm going
42:00
with my original thing before I got all the bills that's in the
42:05
mother of all the sunshine and rainbows and all the fuzzy.
42:07
The fuzzy good feelings? Yeah, go ahead.
42:09
Yeah, I'm gonna give it a, four point two five, I've owned it.
42:13
I bumped it, it was a four for me and then all the the action
42:19
at the end, all the warm and fuzzies function of the trophy
42:22
and then there's that help that spot where I think it's who's
42:27
flaring Stinger laying on the ground like holding hands.
42:29
Yes, they're dying on the Titanic that's just gonna say
42:32
some 1q Q, the Titanic music, but, you know at but I feel like
42:37
that's why I hate to feel real 5 grade after recording this
42:40
episode, especially not even, I didn't need all the stats and
42:43
stuff you guys provided at the end like how it's a one of the
42:45
greatest of all time but it makes me want to watch more WC B
42:49
WC W especially from this era and that's the best compliment I
42:52
could give it. I like I immediately went down
42:54
the rabbit hole after this And plus especially because we watch
42:57
some real like dog shit WCW. We watch like the really geeky
43:01
stuff ever. So like this where it's like you
43:04
said, Matt, it could be on AW today.
43:07
It's like, wow, this is amazing and it's Timeless.
43:10
So, love it. Mike.
43:12
What do you got? Yeah, I gave it a 4 and a half.
43:16
That's what I got. In mind.
43:17
A little note pad. Hit it done shots.
43:19
Jim. Yeah.
43:20
Damn still. The crowd was lit.
43:25
There's great psychology, there was a great work, great work
43:30
great, stepping back into the work rate.
43:31
Yeah, you know, I couldn't give it a full five at five cans, you
43:39
know, just wasn't quite there for me.
43:43
Maybe because we didn't like, yeah, just were WWF.
43:47
I think that's ultimately it. Yeah, you know what, I think it
43:50
was. So in my notes, I have a 4.5 as
43:53
well and I couldn't go five. Is I didn't I think if I had
43:57
investment into the storyline, right?
44:00
Then I would have been able to bump it up to a five but being
44:03
that I just watch this as a match and a single match.
44:07
That's why ultimately went with the four and a half that's your
44:10
opening it up to like I think you're leaving it open for like
44:13
it could you could like come back to and be like oh no way
44:16
this is a five-star this. Yeah let me agree or absorb the
44:19
rest of everything that was going right.
44:22
I think that's the you know that's watching these one-offs.
44:25
Soooo or as a one-off really is a detriment to the, to the
44:29
rating. You're totally really.
44:30
Like, I don't know why I do wonder that earlier, but like
44:34
not being invested in the back story and not having the same
44:37
the, you know, warm and fuzzies that we had, when we were
44:40
talking Gargano and Champa with, with no, Liam was no lady.
44:44
Mm. Pardon me.
44:45
So when we're talking about the ones that we haven't really seen
44:49
before. Yeah.
44:51
Well we're talking about like, yeah, it matches that we've seen
44:54
you ever like rain Hume, which isn't fair that, right?
44:57
We weren't following the feud. So you know, you're not fully
45:00
invested and that's ultimately why, but still it one hell of a
45:05
match. Like, you know, we always have
45:07
to make sure that like we did this with with what RVD and
45:12
Cena, you know, our rating and pointing out the negatives.
45:16
We can't like, let that downplay how much we enjoyed this and
45:19
sure. Yes.
45:20
And to be honest, how much I enjoyed, all four of our matches
45:23
for totally different reasons. Reasons like all four of them
45:27
like I don't know. This is this whole thing again.
45:29
Yeah, this was a lot of fun. Like, I hope it translated to
45:31
anybody. That's listening what we tried
45:34
to accomplish here was all four of us, bringing a totally
45:36
different match with throwing stipulations at one another.
45:40
It was the kind of the alike, original concept of the show,
45:43
right? We just yes.
45:45
Yeah, they were like that. We'll just we'll like yeah
45:47
homework, yeah, yeah, I think I think that's Jim's way of
45:53
calling you out Nick. You know, as we get set for the
45:58
next 12 months or planned out of?
46:01
Yeah, we're we're going signs. You guys quite a bit of
46:04
homework? Yo, yes, perfect.
46:06
This is my favorite kind of homework in the world.
46:08
Like hey can I save new quick last thing on class Champions
46:14
though, like it made me want to watch more Clash of Champions to
46:16
the point I did. But I like after doing the
46:18
homework, I was really late. I'm like, I should be watching
46:21
wrestling, but I am, and I turn on episode later down the road
46:24
and it has an Oz appearance. And I was like, this is amazing.
46:28
And then, and then it has an appearance, get this.
46:31
You go. And now welcome the star of The
46:35
Wonder Years, so it's gonna be like, Fred Savage, right?
46:38
Look obviously, no, it's not. It's his brother Wang brother.
46:44
Mike is this for real? One of the biggest douche bags
46:49
while time that characters easily?
46:50
So I was like, why is Wayne? I'm like this case scenario.
46:54
He's like you I Am The Wonder Years.
46:57
Right? Like he's not be so yeah like
46:59
Alf but he has an interview with Paulie dangerously, right?
47:03
I'm like this is amazing and Paulie Paulie is just trolling
47:06
him the entire time. He asked him a question and he
47:08
pulls the microphone back. So I guess one Worden and
47:11
eventually snaps Wayne from The Wonder Years and he like starts
47:15
yelling at Pauley, put any turns around and Polly dangerously,
47:19
smashes him over the head with this, the cell phone, and it
47:22
breaks on. What about how did I I stumble
47:25
upon this stuff. This is just my way of saying,
47:28
thanks, Nick for like using me to this sending down a rabbit
47:33
hole and I think we should cover this that card.
47:35
I mean Oz and Wayne from The Wonder Years.
47:37
Well, Steve, you love it. Sorry.
47:40
That that story was too long dude.
47:43
No it's amazing. Matt, I'm going to hand it right
47:46
over you because we've got some extra credit in store with a big
47:50
weekend ahead of us. Let's go.
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Let's go with a somber, very somber, honorable mention this
49:00
week. First and foremost, we lost
49:02
Superstar Billy Graham. This past week.
49:04
So it was announced during the middle of dynamite really that
49:09
Billy Graham had passed away. And this man is like really,
49:13
really important to really what a true Superstar is to this.
49:17
This you know, stage of WWE was like Hogan before Hogan.
49:21
Yeah. Sent and Hogan is gone on record
49:23
saying that he ripped part of his look and be in this Jack,
49:27
dude, with the handlebar mustache and the blond and the
49:30
tie-dye and all that, you know, Hogan really attributes a lot of
49:34
it to do Superstar Billy Graham. So you know, he wasn't without
49:39
controversy especially after he left WWE or WWF and but he was
49:44
one of those champions from the 70s that were super super
49:47
important. So rest in peace to Billy Graham
49:50
and on top of that, This is actually the anniversary of the
49:54
24th anniversary of the passing of Owen Hart.
49:57
So, May 23rd 1999. We lost Owen Hart, so a truly
50:02
somber. Honorable mention this week and
50:05
sorry to bring us down and we'll continue with that.
50:09
It's Story. Number three, it was a really
50:11
rough week for injuries on the aw side.
50:14
Jamie hater is apparently still, not cleared to to wrestle headed
50:19
into a pay-per-view weekend. We had live Morgan and Dakota
50:23
Kai injured in the same match both, which seemed to be, at
50:26
least Dakota Kai's a significant injury.
50:30
It's rumored that. It's a ACL tear.
50:33
I Leave and then moving on to the New Japan side, Mercedes
50:39
Monet was injured in her finals. Match of the New Japan Pro
50:44
Wrestling strong women's titles title match.
50:47
That's a mouthful losing against now, the first-ever champion,
50:51
Willow Nightingale. Apparently it was called in the
50:54
ring. The audible was called and
50:56
Mercedes was supposed to wait. Walk away with the title even
50:59
Meltzer said that this title was created for Mercedes.
51:04
He's and here we are with Willow Nightingale home.
51:06
Let's hope that she can, you know, not be just a transitional
51:10
oopsie kind of champion here and really build this up and and
51:13
take it to where it needed to be while Mercedes heels up from
51:17
what is sounding like a broken ankle?
51:19
So I rough one here, don't worry nattie's, still healthy, who
51:24
will get there? How about some good?
51:26
How about some good news, man or for?
51:28
So that's a bumper sticker. Don't worry, naughty still
51:31
healthy. All right, number two was the
51:36
announcement from mr. Tony Kahn, last week, which was
51:41
the announcement of a ew Collision, which will debut a
51:45
two-hour show on TNT, when's on Saturday evening, June, 17th
51:52
8:00, but this announcement was not without drama.
51:56
And here we are. CM Punk was apparently pulled
51:59
from all of the announcements in the 11th Hour.
52:04
It was expected that this this announcement for Collision would
52:08
not only be an announcement, an announcement of announcement of
52:12
an announcement because there are some good news that guy
52:17
behind the guy behind the guy, the guy behind the guy behind
52:20
the guy has another announcement on the announcement on the
52:22
announcement, but CM Punk was apparently pulled from all of
52:26
the announcements in the 11th Hour, causing a lot of
52:28
speculation of what's going on, where the problems are.
52:32
And we'll see him Punk actually, Intern return to a ew man.
52:39
They've even gone as far as to not announce where the first
52:43
episode of collision will be held and it was widely known
52:48
that it was going to be in Chicago.
52:50
And now they're all these rumors of them calling audible because
52:53
CM Punk won't be there, and it's going to be a de lis place in
52:56
Jacksonville, so that's Tony cons announcement.
52:59
This week is where episode 1 of collision will take place.
53:02
I think it's a conspiracy. A theory.
53:04
That's why they floated that a release date for the video game
53:07
here. Like, who look over here though?
53:08
Yeah, yeah. So why these announcements over
53:11
here tinfoil hat. You and you and Tom from
53:15
turnbuckle Tavern can hang out and then build your own tinfoil
53:19
hat good. Alright finally please some good
53:26
news. There's good news.
53:30
Now, let's go into Memorial Day. Weekend is turned into one of
53:34
the biggest wrestling weekends of the entire year, we have
53:39
Friday night, starting with impact Under Siege.
53:42
I know we've probably never talked about impact except for
53:45
the show that the three of us went to and Poughkeepsie months
53:49
and months probably about a year ago at this point.
53:51
Yeah. But they are kicking it off on
53:53
Friday night. And then Saturday afternoon, we
53:56
have WWE Night of Champions 1:00.
53:58
Afternoon night in Saudi Arabia. After afternoon it's morning in
54:04
California will be a good time and then NXT Battleground is on
54:09
Sunday going head-to-head with aew double or nothing which
54:12
happens on Sunday evening as well.
54:15
There's way too much for all of us to break down.
54:17
So Nick, why don't you hit me with the match that you were
54:21
most? Looking forward to for the
54:22
weekend. This one, they've created a lot
54:27
of intrigue here. And for me, it's Rollins and
54:30
styles. Because I want to see how
54:33
they're going to either screw Rollins or if they're gonna go
54:35
with Rollins. I don't know.
54:37
It's it to me. It's interesting.
54:39
Forget the all this like transitional Champion crybaby
54:42
stuff. Like, who cares?
54:44
Like, don't you want to see a main title on on a show?
54:47
Like I do, I don't know to me that that match especially like
54:52
AJ's getting older to like, I'm excited.
54:56
That's the one I'm looking forward to it because I also
54:58
That's the one. I'm the most interested in the
55:00
outcome of out of the entire weekend.
55:04
Yeah, it's listed for me as the one I'm most looking forward to.
55:08
I think the work rate of this will be off the charts good.
55:12
I think that there are like, man, it's so hard to break down
55:15
whether or not this is going to be Rollins or Styles.
55:20
And the reason I say that is they've like made it, they
55:23
painted this picture on Smackdown where Styles has story
55:27
lines that are going to You after this match and Rollins?
55:32
It gets this four-part story on Monday Night Raw of like dating
55:36
back to his documentary from when he returned from his knee
55:40
injury and showing clips of when he's a kid.
55:43
And like it's building up this massive story of how he's gonna.
55:48
This is our opportunity to change the business and to move
55:51
the business forward and it it was out of this hole.
55:57
Drip God character To in this one-on-one interview, with, with
56:01
Corey Graves, like it's all really strange to me, but it all
56:06
feels like, it's got to be Rollins.
56:08
I don't love nowhere to predict it.
56:10
He had, I don't know where to predict it either, but I'm man,
56:13
I wish I could forward to it. I wish I could find the exact
56:16
quote, and I apologize for not coming prepared, but he said
56:20
something along the lines of how Roman Reigns can be Hulk Hogan
56:24
and John Cena. But Roman Reigns can never be a
56:27
Shawn Michaels or Or Eddie Guerrero or Bret Hart and that's
56:31
what he can do. So I thought that was
56:34
interesting. Yeah, that's really a life that
56:37
I'd loved the fact that like he, he tied it too and I'm talking
56:42
to Rollins. And in this one-on-one, sit-down
56:44
with Corey Graves that happened multi-part on on Monday night.
56:49
He comes out and he says, Rollin comes out and he says that he
56:54
loves Roman Reigns but he does not like Roman greens and he was
56:58
going and you know really chipping away at this Title
57:01
reign that he has and shows that he doesn't respect him and you
57:05
know, doesn't respect the Title reign that he has.
57:08
And like that's what all of this is about was him going out and
57:12
proving himself and changing the business for the better.
57:15
And I can't like help. But think that's where we're
57:18
headed. Yeah, but I don't see a JB.
57:22
Oh yeah, I don't know. Mike, what are you looking most
57:26
forward to this weekend? Well, I had that for the WWE
57:29
side for if we're going to talk aw, I put Blackpool combat Club
57:35
versus the elite. This this match for me like
57:39
Anarchy in the arena. Yeah, this is the match of the
57:42
weekend status for me like this. I think is the best one, right?
57:46
Shows the other one, and it's appropriate that it's going up
57:49
again. And really when we spoke about
57:51
Terry, Funk Ric Flair in homework, This week show stealer
57:55
there's this amazing Anarchy and the arena match that will follow
58:00
the storyline that's built in with these guys having mocks and
58:05
Danielson and really what's going on with Omega on that
58:09
side? Like, you know, that anarchy and
58:11
the arena is going to deliver some craziness like think of
58:16
last time when Eddie Kingston is walking out like a like a
58:20
murderer like a from a horror flick, and He's at got the gas
58:25
can in his hand covered in blood and it's just incredible.
58:28
So I'm fully anticipating that that will be ultimately where we
58:33
come out of with this. And that will be my match of the
58:36
weekend. Mike, you just said you had
58:38
something different. What's your match of the
58:39
weekend? My match of the weekend if we're
58:44
talking. Aw, I put Cole vs.
58:47
Jericho. That's what I had okay, I could
58:50
see that being on par with, with the Anarchy in the arena Jericho
58:55
do right? Like Jericho has to?
58:57
Yeah, they do. It could, they could definitely
58:59
deliver. I don't doubt it.
59:01
I don't doubt it. This match on Dinah - week with
59:05
Jericho Andrade strong fighting all over the arena was awesome
59:09
them going outside. Adam Cole, getting involved
59:12
outside leaving him, literally in the dirt.
59:15
Like they're, they're building this up and I am here for it.
59:19
I think it's going to be tremendous, Nick.
59:23
What did you have as your, your match of the weekend?
59:27
That was one of them and then the other was Jade karg.
59:30
No, I'm kidding. This one's like it's hard for me
59:35
because it's between the two that you guys just mentioned and
59:40
then I'm Kind of looking forward to Gunther and Ali like they're
59:45
very different styles and it's kind of like I talked about
59:48
this. Yeah I talk about this every
59:50
time there's a WWE pay-per-view, there's always like sometimes
59:55
there's no build, there's nothing to get super excited
59:57
about, but like you end up watching and you're like, oh
1:00:00
wow, that was pretty good. I don't know.
1:00:02
I'm hoping it delivers something.
1:00:04
I don't have super high expectations for but it's
1:00:07
something that could surprise and that's going to be an
1:00:10
employee. Yeah, like huge flying move and
1:00:15
got their. Yeah.
1:00:16
And I don't think about it there.
1:00:17
And think about a match that weekend.
1:00:18
It's either like a top-billed match or it's like an adolescent
1:00:21
field like, you know, a show stealer right, right.
1:00:26
So going off script here we haven't talked Cody Rhodes or
1:00:30
Brock Lesnar at all. Well, I know, I will be watching
1:00:35
that on most likely Monday morning with my son, because
1:00:39
solutely look more words. I do too.
1:00:42
Cody got obliterated on Monday and now he's walking in as this
1:00:46
Superman baby face with a broken arm going up against Elites had
1:00:50
a heart-to-heart with him. Yeah and I think that are we
1:00:54
setting up for Triple H to get involved in this story line in
1:00:58
some capacity. Like, is there a way like going
1:01:01
off a Raw Triple Pat's Cody Rhodes on the knee.
1:01:05
Like all right, big guy, you're going to get what you want and
1:01:08
then kind of like grabs him by the neck of like kind of doing
1:01:11
the same thing like a like a dad is sending his son off to get
1:01:14
his ass kicked because he knows it's what's best for them.
1:01:17
Like is this like, I don't know. Like, is there a way that Triple
1:01:21
H gets involved, I'm really super intrigued by this.
1:01:25
I'm super intrigued by what happens with the bloodline and
1:01:29
tag titles and where that all ends up.
1:01:31
All of these things have Have finishes that I can't
1:01:35
necessarily predict and that's what makes it fun.
1:01:38
Hell yeah so my last question let's go to aw for a moment
1:01:42
there's the four pillars fatal four way that it's going on.
1:01:47
Mjf Sammy jungleboy and Darby Alan.
1:01:51
That's the one I'm most looking forward to by the way any of the
1:01:53
three. Have a chance at taking the
1:01:57
title away. No, no.
1:01:59
That's that's fine. That's yeah.
1:02:02
Dad that I think could really be like also another match of the
1:02:05
week Contender, but I guarantee you they make you do other guys
1:02:08
make you believe in the mattress know that they it might happen
1:02:12
going in and, you know, you know, it from looking from our
1:02:15
Vantage Point. You're like no, there's no
1:02:16
chance but when you're watching it at, but he's going to kick
1:02:20
ass. So here's my question, I'm going
1:02:21
to go off script now. Okay, does this match?
1:02:25
To you guys feel like a main event type match because to me I
1:02:30
can't wrap my head around the four of these guys being main
1:02:34
eventers. It's just not, maybe, I'm just
1:02:37
trained with the WWF mindset, and it's my own fault, but I
1:02:41
don't see and maybe because I can't stand Darby Allen and his
1:02:45
like, who I'm gonna do fly off the top rope backwards and try
1:02:49
and kill myself. Like I don't know that Styles
1:02:52
never been something I'm into, I don't, I don't hate.
1:02:55
Everybody does remind me of someone we like bold with in the
1:02:58
late 90s, there's the bowling alley, I don't know.
1:03:03
But like seriously, dude this does this four-way scream Main
1:03:07
Event used like cuz not exactly no, in a words find at least
1:03:13
like come on. That wo you would we get in like
1:03:16
you know Rollins and yeah, I know you guys love this.
1:03:18
Mash Rollins AJ Styles with someone like I don't care.
1:03:21
If feels like it's like Orton and Cena again, it's like the
1:03:25
same old. WWE shit.
1:03:26
That's my opinion. So I'd rather see this I think.
1:03:29
But so, yeah, I think that's, that's been my gripe with the
1:03:35
big title scene and aw, since the Jumpman, like, it started
1:03:40
with Kenny and an Omega, excuse me, Kenny and mocks really like,
1:03:44
where I know Jericho was the the first Champion, but really, it
1:03:48
jumped off and kicked off with the Kenny and mocks.
1:03:51
That was the main story. The a story on everything.
1:03:54
And then, after that, it all kind of Like fizzled out and
1:03:56
it's never been the priority for the booking.
1:04:00
And this, it feels the same exact way.
1:04:03
I think that. There is II.
1:04:07
Just can't find a way that I put the title on anybody, but mjf
1:04:11
coming out of this and it's a nice little bitch.
1:04:13
So Emily. Yeah, Fair, it's a nice match to
1:04:18
get your four pillars in there and I don't ya same way about
1:04:21
Darby that you do I enjoy what kind of jungle was selling out
1:04:25
wimbley. Jungle boy is the one card that
1:04:28
like a jungle boy is gonna he's gonna prove you wrong one thing,
1:04:33
whether you want to or not. But he's the distant fourth out
1:04:38
of these. Yes, I agree Nyan but like
1:04:42
there's no way that this goes on last it just, it won't it to me.
1:04:46
It's Anarchy in the arena that needs to go on last.
1:04:48
That needs to be how you end the night, like the Moxley, and
1:04:52
Kenny, and now hangman coming back and that's, that's the
1:04:55
story, right? That's, that's the a story.
1:04:58
So, that's right. So, but, but that's you go home.
1:05:00
But that's a problem that WWE had in the past and I'm sure
1:05:03
everybody's had this Us at some point.
1:05:05
We're just not thinking of it. But if your Champion can't close
1:05:09
a show, man, that's a problem, but it's not the champion like
1:05:13
mjf can close the show. Yes, no, I agree.
1:05:16
I agree. I was in New Jersey when he was
1:05:18
it. Yes, I can never remember which
1:05:20
friggin pay-per-view was in November, but I went to that
1:05:23
one. No, I'm not saying he can't, I'm
1:05:25
just saying that Feud that he's involved in as a main event Feud
1:05:29
is, it's not an appropriate Championship Feud but it's, yes,
1:05:33
I fully agree. With you, I fully agree with you
1:05:36
and it, but they get all can't be like top-level bangers.
1:05:41
They'll like, you need the kind of in between but it's like
1:05:44
about, it's not about the match, not being good because the
1:05:47
Magister, whatever. I mean, like markets the, it's
1:05:51
it to me. It's just these three guys
1:05:53
aren't being Avengers. Yeah.
1:05:55
And people don't believe that they are.
1:05:57
You want? Is this your main event there?
1:05:59
It's still real to me. Like, got it, sticks.
1:06:02
His tongue out like that. Like So so my last question and
1:06:07
then we can go home. Do we see?
1:06:10
Do we see sear going anywhere, man.
1:06:14
All I got is Tom baby. Do we see CM Punk show his
1:06:19
squirrelly little face on Sunday night?
1:06:21
Who the hell cares. Like, why do we care about this
1:06:25
guy still? Jesus Christ.
1:06:26
Who cares? So sick of it.
1:06:28
I care about him as much as I care about Bray Wyatt.
1:06:31
Like, come on. Both least your bronies.
1:06:35
What painting these egomaniacs and here's a QR code on Raw?
1:06:39
Yeah, I saw and nobody could actually bring it up because the
1:06:44
WWE logo in the bottom, right of the screen was documented that
1:06:47
on purpose you think so? Yeah and I sent this out the guy
1:06:51
who did a braised costume design was backstage with everybody so
1:06:56
I don't know. Yeah, we can I talk about the
1:06:59
biggest letdown you skipped over my my question.
1:07:02
I wanted the biggest letdown Because there's a few giving me
1:07:06
shit for going through the honorable mention is such a
1:07:09
downer then we're going to the number 3 and number two give me
1:07:12
some good news. So I figured I'd cut that one
1:07:14
out but yeah I have you for the shit you can finish it for -
1:07:18
haters ball right now. Let's do it.
1:07:20
Hey no we don't need to do it just Maddie is shouldn't be hard
1:07:26
I just wanted another excuse to dump on thati but you know if
1:07:30
you Nice. I think she's great.
1:07:36
Yeah. Go to Israel or is it
1:07:40
great-granddaughter? I don't see.
1:07:45
Can we go home? Please, I have that about my
1:07:47
couldn't care less about, but here's what should happen that
1:07:51
should match. Should be a straight-up squash
1:07:53
if it's anything. But a squash.
1:07:55
Yes, agreed Rhea. Should just destroy her.
1:07:59
If it's if it's like even an even match and it's pointless.
1:08:05
Yeah. That in Canaan, totally just
1:08:08
split their shows to two nights or start them at 4:00 because I
1:08:13
don't want to stay up till 2:00 in the morning.
1:08:16
Watching wrestling. Shit aren't you excited by Ethan
1:08:21
page in the guns? Going up against no CRT?
1:08:23
Okay, so that's the problem with these aw cards.
1:08:26
Like you look at this and there's like three matches on
1:08:28
there that are completely unnecessary for the card.
1:08:31
Makes you a hand. Well they do have a free for all
1:08:33
type thing, don't they? I And I can't keep up anymore
1:08:36
guys, I'm getting lost. They definitely do because Kaz
1:08:40
will be on the pre-show, which I thought was pretty cool.
1:08:43
The free-for-all whatever it is and you all know how big of a
1:08:45
Cavs fan. I am.
1:08:46
So I thought that was awesome. We can dive more into this next
1:08:52
week. Absolutely.
1:08:53
We're going to do a review show, right?
1:08:55
Eye, which we rarely do. We're going to remind you this
1:08:57
weekend of wrestling so can I get that in?
1:09:00
Or do you have anything else you want to touch on?
1:09:02
So if I'm going to plug my own shit real quick, I'll be showing
1:09:04
up on the turn. Buckle Tavern.
1:09:06
Feed this week. I will be doing their debate
1:09:08
show for. I think the fourth time, which
1:09:10
will be really cool. So we're that will release
1:09:13
Sunday evening on YouTube, Monday, through your podcast
1:09:17
platforms. And I'm going to do my best to
1:09:19
try to jump on their atw wrap-up show tomorrow night, Wednesday
1:09:23
evening. So probably tonight when you're
1:09:26
when you're first hearing that, so that'll be fun too.
1:09:27
So I'll join our buddy, Tom over there.
1:09:30
Fill in for Mike Bell Caster. Who's headed out to Vegas for
1:09:33
the pay-per-view and I got in my shit.
1:09:36
So Nick take us home. Alright, so next week we're
1:09:39
going to be reviewing both of these pay-per-views what we
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liked what we didn't like, and so on.
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And then after that, we are kicking off the following week.
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Kicking off our summer of 1998, in wrestling.
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We're going to be diving into ECW WCW.
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WWF, man, we're going all-in. And I am pumped.
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We're starting off with King of the Ring 1998, so if you want to
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get ahead of things, go reward. Watch it and maybe you can throw
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some stuff out there that we may have missed along the way 98 was
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a great year. I can't wait.
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signing off. I'm about to make love to the
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yeti. Nobody eats Beefaroni on a boat
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man. That's a problem, right?
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So I wasn't cooler credit.