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The Definition Of Insanity | Episode 18 · The Augarius Williams Show

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Speaker 1: So just sit back and enjoy yourselves before we dive
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Speaker 1: into it. However, I think that it would be important
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Speaker 1: for me to address the elephant in the room. So
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Speaker 1: this is episode 18 of the Agarius Williams Show. I'm
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Speaker 1: recording this episode on October 24th. The last time an
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Speaker 1: episode of this podcast dropped in your podcast feed, you
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Speaker 1: got to go all the way back to August 6th.
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Speaker 1: There has been so many things that have happened since
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Speaker 1: the last time I taught politics with you guys. The
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Speaker 1: last time we taught politics, it was still summer. Now
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Speaker 1: here we are in late October, and we're in the fall.
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Speaker 1: The last time I talked to you guys, the midterms
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Speaker 1: seemed like they were miles and miles away. Now as
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Speaker 1: I talk to you, we're 10 days away from the
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Speaker 1: midterm elections. The last time I talked to you guys,
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Speaker 1: Caroline Leavitt was still the White House press secretary. Now
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Speaker 1: that I talked to you guys here in late October,
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Speaker 1: there is still no White House press secretary because Katie Zachariah,
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Speaker 1: who was selected to replace Caroline Leavitt, turned out to
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Speaker 1: be an absolute disaster. I don't care how many Republicans
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Speaker 1: try to blame the Democrats for doing a smear job
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Speaker 1: to get her out of that job. She just wasn't
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Speaker 1: ready for the responsibilities that came with being the White
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Speaker 1: House press secretary. Last time I talked to you guys,
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Speaker 1: the war in Iran was still going on strong. And
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Speaker 1: as I talked to you guys here in late October,
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Speaker 1: the Iran war is still going strong. Last time I
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Speaker 1: talked to you guys, gas prices were high. As I
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Speaker 1: talked to you now, they're still high. So as some
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Speaker 1: things have changed, some things have stayed the same. The
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Speaker 1: reason why I decided to take a hiatus. And I've
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Speaker 1: said this in the past. This is my general reason
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Speaker 1: for why I step away from this podcast. The political
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Speaker 1: scene that we live in here in the United States
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Speaker 1: is so toxic. To where if you immerse yourself too
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Speaker 1: much in it. It would quite literally drive you crazy.
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Speaker 1: Because it seems like we live in a world where
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Speaker 1: now nothing is as clear as it seems. Everybody claims
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Speaker 1: that they're telling you the truth when in all actuality,
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Speaker 1: they're telling you the truth that shapes their narrative. That's
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Speaker 1: why when you hear Fox News claim that they're fair
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Speaker 1: and balanced, they're fair and balanced when it comes to
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Speaker 1: telling you stories that favor the right. When CNN tells
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Speaker 1: you that they're trusted, they're the number one trusted news source.
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Speaker 1: They're trusted for people who want to hear the news
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Speaker 1: in a more left leaning perspective. The same with MS Now.
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Speaker 1: The same with News Nation, the same with all of
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Speaker 1: these outlets, Newsmax, One America News, Right Side Broadcasting, over
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Speaker 1: on the right. They always claim that they're telling you
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Speaker 1: what needs to be told, that they're telling you the
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Speaker 1: unfiltered truth, whether you want to hear it or not.
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Speaker 1: The same with a lot of these podcasters on the
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Speaker 1: left and the right. They claim that they're giving you
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Speaker 1: the truth straight, no chaser. They're only giving you the
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Speaker 1: truth that fits a particular narrative. Then you get to
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Speaker 1: someone like me and I don't claim to be the
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Speaker 1: savior of truth. Because I do find myself from time
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Speaker 1: to time getting things wrong. But I have absolutely no
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Speaker 1: problem using my platform to say that I was wrong
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Speaker 1: about something. You get these other sources and they'll never
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Speaker 1: admit that they're wrong. So I just needed to pull
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Speaker 1: myself back. from the political landscape to get myself ready
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Speaker 1: for what's about to happen. Because as I previously mentioned,
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Speaker 1: we're 10 days away from the midterm elections. And there
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Speaker 1: is a pretty strong belief that the Democrats are going
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Speaker 1: to claim control of the House. And you have some
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Speaker 1: who are even going as far as to say they're
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Speaker 1: going to claim control of the Senate. which by extension
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Speaker 1: would make Donald Trump in the last two years of
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Speaker 1: his second term a lame duck president. And we know
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Speaker 1: that when you become a lame duck president, you basically.
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Speaker 1: Forfeit some of the power of your office because you'll
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Speaker 1: never be able to get anything legislatively achieved because your
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Speaker 1: party does not control either chamber of Congress. So we're
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Speaker 1: going to get into that conversation a little bit more
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Speaker 1: here today. We're also going to get into what happened
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Speaker 1: earlier this week here in my home state of Mississippi.
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Speaker 1: The body cam footage of the shooting of one year
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Speaker 1: old Cohen Wiley was first leaked and then finally released
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Speaker 1: by the Mississippi Department of Justice, the Mississippi Attorney General's office,
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Speaker 1: however you want to slice it. I have some pretty
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Speaker 1: strong thoughts about that. And I'm here to tell you
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Speaker 1: right now. What I'm going to say about that may
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Speaker 1: not be popular. But I've never found myself wanting to
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Speaker 1: be popular. Because in the days and times that we
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Speaker 1: live in, I would much rather tell the truth the
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Speaker 1: way that I see it than to curry favor from
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Speaker 1: people who will never like me, regardless of what it
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Speaker 1: is that I say. So there's a lot that we're
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Speaker 1: going to touch on today. Once again, thank you guys
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Speaker 1: so much for listening. Once again, sit back and enjoy yourself.
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Speaker 1: Here we go about to dive into episode 18 of
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Speaker 1: the Agarius Williams show, an episode that I aptly titled
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Speaker 1: the definition of insanity. Why did I give this episode
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Speaker 1: this particular title? When we think about the word insanity,
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Speaker 1: what is the truest definition of insanity? Doing the same
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Speaker 1: thing over and over again and expecting a different result.
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Speaker 1: That's insanity in a nutshell. If you're someone wanting to
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Speaker 1: do something in life, achieve a dream, but every single
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Speaker 1: day you find yourself sitting on the couch, rotting your
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Speaker 1: life away, and hoping that by some sort of miracle
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Speaker 1: the dream can finally be accomplished, that's insanity. Because you're
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Speaker 1: not doing anything to make the dream come true. You're
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Speaker 1: just sitting around hoping that that okay, maybe if I
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Speaker 1: catch the right break, the dream will come true. If
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Speaker 1: you're not doing anything to help the dream come along,
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Speaker 1: then it's not going to come along because it requires
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Speaker 1: some action on your end to make it happen. How
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Speaker 1: does that pertain to the situation that we find ourselves
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Speaker 1: in currently? Doing the same thing over and over again
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Speaker 1: and hoping for a different result perfectly encapsulates what's happening
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Speaker 1: now when it comes to the buildup to the midterm election.
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Speaker 1: And you have people out here that are doing everything
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Speaker 1: in their power to make sure they get to the polls,
8:51
Speaker 1: make sure friends and family gets to the polls, make
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Speaker 1: sure coworkers get to the polls, making sure that anybody
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Speaker 1: that they can get in contact with can get to
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Speaker 1: the polls.
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Speaker 2: It's the same thing being.
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Speaker 1: Done over and over and over again, You're just expecting
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Speaker 1: the result to be different. Now, don't get me wrong.
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Speaker 1: You're listening to someone who at a point in his
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Speaker 1: life was a big, big fan of the political system
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Speaker 1: before I knew better. I mean, you could talk to
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Speaker 1: anybody that's ever known me in my life. There was
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Speaker 1: a point in my life and I've brought this up
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Speaker 1: in previous episodes. There was a point in my life
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Speaker 1: where I wanted to be president of the United States.
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Speaker 1: That was the only dream that I ever had when
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Speaker 1: I was younger. I wanted to be president. But as
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Speaker 1: I got older and started to really understand the political
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Speaker 1: system for myself, I realized that that was not something
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Speaker 1: that I wanted to do. Because when you're raised with
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Speaker 1: a good moral compass and you understand how dirty and
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Speaker 1: how slimy the political system is, you don't want to
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Speaker 1: become yet another toxic byproduct of our political establishment. And
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Speaker 1: so I decided, you know what, maybe being president isn't
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Speaker 1: something that I can see myself doing going forward.
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Speaker 2: So that was a dream that I scrapped. And I said,
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Speaker 2: you know what?
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Speaker 1: Maybe instead of being on the inside of the political system,
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Speaker 1: how about I use this voice that was given to
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Speaker 1: me by God to sit behind this microphone and to talk.
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Speaker 2: About the political system? Good, bad, or indifferent.
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Speaker 1: Hence the reason why this podcast came into existence. I
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Speaker 1: am not trying to sit here and say to not vote.
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Speaker 1: But what I'm simply asking is that if you are
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Speaker 1: someone that's going to go and vote, just ask yourself
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Speaker 1: this question. If voting really worked, why would we continue
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Speaker 1: to have so many problems?
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Speaker 2: In this country. If voting worked.
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Speaker 1: The same things that you hear people complain about from
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Speaker 1: election cycle to election cycle to election cycle. Would not
11:33
Speaker 1: be things that they would complain about because those things
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Speaker 1: would be fixed. And as it currently stands right now.
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Speaker 1: The Democrats are in a great position. To claim the
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Speaker 1: House of Representatives. Some have even gone as far as
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Speaker 1: to say they're in a great position to claim the
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Speaker 1: Senate as well.
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Speaker 2: Now, we know.
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Speaker 1: Why they're in that position. Because the Republican Party has
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Speaker 1: done such a great job of disillusioning voters to the
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Speaker 1: point where they look at the current political system and
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Speaker 1: they say it wouldn't hurt to give Democrats the majority.
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Speaker 1: Because at least then you'd have some checks and balances
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Speaker 1: on Trump's power in the executive branch. But the only reason.
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Speaker 1: Why Democrats want that power. They don't want that power
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Speaker 1: to lower cost. They don't want that power to. Help
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Speaker 1: bring down gas prices to help bring down home prices,
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Speaker 1: grocery prices. They don't want that power. to do anything
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Speaker 1: except for finish what they started the first time around.
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Speaker 1: Continue to use taxpayer money to investigate Donald Trump time
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Speaker 1: and time and time again.
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Speaker 2: That's the sole reason why they want that power.
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Speaker 1: Now, if they get around to lowering costs and things
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Speaker 1: of that nature, they'll take that too. But their main
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Speaker 1: priority is to make sure That they finish the job.
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Speaker 1: Of investigating Donald Trump. Now don't get me wrong. Has
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump done some nefarious things. Since occupying the office
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Speaker 1: of the presidency.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely. That can't be. Looked over.
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Speaker 1: But when you think about these politicians. And how some
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Speaker 1: of them. Come into their respective offices. And they don't
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Speaker 1: have a lot of money. The next thing you know,
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Speaker 1: by the time they retire or by the time they
13:46
Speaker 1: lose reelection or something of that sort, they walk out
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Speaker 1: and they're multimillionaires. And you start thinking to yourself, well,
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Speaker 1: how did they get that kind of money? Especially when
13:56
Speaker 1: you know the salaries of these politicians. All of them
14:03
Speaker 1: use their office for nefarious means. But it's just because
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Speaker 1: they have such a hatred of Donald Trump that they're
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Speaker 1: willing to go after him for doing the same things
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Speaker 1: that most of them do. They use the same tax
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Speaker 1: loopholes that he uses. They invest in stocks and they
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Speaker 1: commit insider trading the same way he does. They take
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Speaker 1: lobbyist money to help swing their opinions on things. Like
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Speaker 1: he does. But yet because they have such a. Disdain
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Speaker 1: hatred for him. They want to make him out. To
14:54
Speaker 1: be the sacrificial lamb. For all of those things. That
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Speaker 1: they're doing as well.
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Speaker 2: I find it.
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Speaker 1: So funny. When you see people being interviewed. And they're
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Speaker 1: being asked, what's the main thing that's driving you to
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Speaker 1: vote in the midterms? And they'll always say, well, we
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Speaker 1: need lower cost. We need the war in Iran to
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Speaker 1: be over. We need this. We need that.
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Speaker 2: And yada, yada, yada. Do you really think.
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Speaker 1: That the Democrats are going to get in there and
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Speaker 1: do anything with any of those problems to make life better?
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Speaker 1: Joe Biden was president for four years. And things did
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Speaker 1: not get cheaper. But see, the excuse that Democrats love
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Speaker 1: to throw out. Is that, well, oh, Joe Biden was
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Speaker 1: in there trying to clean up the mess that Donald.
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Speaker 2: Trump left behind.
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Speaker 1: The excuse that Republicans use to justify what Donald Trump
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Speaker 1: has been doing is, oh, he got to get in
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Speaker 1: there and clean up Biden's mess.
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Speaker 2: It's going to take a while.
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Speaker 1: But when he was campaigning for the office, he made
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Speaker 1: it seem like he could get things back down with
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Speaker 1: a stroke of a pen. If you think about the
16:25
Speaker 1: things that he's been able to do legislatively. They've not
16:29
Speaker 1: come through Congress. They've come through executive order. And we
16:34
Speaker 1: all know that any time an executive order is signed,
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Speaker 1: the next president, if he or she is of the
16:40
Speaker 1: opposite party, they can rescind those executive orders. And it's
16:45
Speaker 1: almost like they were never on the books. When Donald
16:49
Speaker 1: Trump became president in 2016. The excuse Republicans used was.
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Speaker 1: Oh he has to get in there and clean up
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Speaker 1: Obama's mess. When Obama became president. He has to get
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Speaker 1: in there and clean up George W. Bush's mess. And
17:02
Speaker 1: so on and so forth. You see how it rolls downhill.
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Speaker 1: Every midterm cycle.
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Speaker 2: When the.
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Speaker 1: President is of the opposite party you vote in the
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Speaker 1: other party because you've become dissatisfied with the direction of
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Speaker 1: the country under the president and his part we saw
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Speaker 1: that play out in 2014 with obama we saw it
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Speaker 1: play out in 2018 with trump and in all likelihood
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Speaker 1: we're going to see it play out again here in
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Speaker 1: 2026 but all i ask is while you're standing in
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Speaker 1: line on November 3rd, waiting to cast your vote. What
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Speaker 1: good is it going to do to continue to find
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Speaker 1: yourself participating in this game of insanity? Doing the same
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Speaker 1: thing over and over again, expecting a different result. I'll
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Speaker 1: use my home state for an example. Here in Mississippi,
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Speaker 1: There is a Senate race that's begun to get national attention.
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Speaker 1: You have the current incumbent, Cindy Hyde-Smith, going up against
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Speaker 1: Scott Colon, the Democratic nominee, and Ty Pickens, the independent candidate.
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Speaker 1: Both parties are bringing out the big guns. Former Vice
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Speaker 1: President Kamala Harris was here this week in Columbus campaigning
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Speaker 1: for Colon. Obama put out a television ad telling Mississippians
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Speaker 1: that we need to send Scott Colon to the Senate.
18:47
Speaker 1: Benny Thompson is talking about why Scott Colon needs to
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Speaker 1: be in the Senate. And on Monday, Donald Trump is
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Speaker 1: going to be in Corinth campaigning for Cindy Hyde-Smith. It
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Speaker 1: has been a long time since Mississippi has sent a
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Speaker 1: Democrat to the Senate listen I don't know anything well
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Speaker 1: let me not say that because it wouldn't necessarily be
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Speaker 1: the truth of what I know about Scott Colon and
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Speaker 1: what we all know here in the state about Sidney
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Speaker 1: Hyatt Smith and what we know about Todd Pickens this
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Speaker 1: isn't his first rodeo running for office You have a
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Speaker 1: lot of Mississippians saying that we need to send Scott
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Speaker 1: Colon to the Senate. I look at it and I say.
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Speaker 1: what would be the difference between him and Cindy Highsmith?
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Speaker 1: All these politicians that are trying to get into higher
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Speaker 1: office for the first time, of course they go in
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Speaker 1: there all wide-eyed and promising that they won't be bald
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Speaker 1: and yada, yada, yada. But once they get in there
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Speaker 1: a little while and they start to the process of
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Speaker 1: being bought by these lobbyists and things, you see how
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Speaker 1: quickly they change their tune. Oh, he's promising the lower cost.
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Speaker 1: He's promising to protect rural hospitals.
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Speaker 2: Talk is cheap.
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Speaker 1: Just ask anybody who voted for Donald Trump in 2024
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Speaker 1: whether or not talk is cheap, and they'll be able
20:35
Speaker 1: to give you an answer to that question. Donald Trump
20:39
Speaker 1: told them that the Russia-Ukraine war would be over in
20:41
Speaker 1: a day. It's still going on. He told you that
20:44
Speaker 1: he would get you in no new wars. Ask the
20:48
Speaker 1: military how that's going. He promised transparency on those Epstein files.
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Speaker 2: Where are they at?
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Speaker 1: And yet you still have people buying into this notion. Oh, well,
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Speaker 1: you know, I'm still going to go and vote. Because
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Speaker 1: it's time for a change.
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Speaker 2: We need.
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Speaker 1: Once again I'll use Mississippi. We need Scott Colom in
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Speaker 1: the Senate. Scott Colom will go to Washington D.C.
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Speaker 2: If he's elected.
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Speaker 1: And become the same thing that people claim they despise
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Speaker 1: in Cindy High Smith. She votes with Trump. Almost 100
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Speaker 1: percent of the time. Well, what the hell do you think? Oh,
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Speaker 1: not Todd Pickens. What the hell do you think Scott
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Speaker 1: Colombs going to do? He's going to vote with the
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Speaker 1: Democrats nearly 100 percent of the time. She just kisses
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Speaker 1: Trump's ass. What do you think Scott Colombs is going
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Speaker 1: to do? Don't kiss the Democrats ass. That's how it works.
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Speaker 1: Because the minute you step out of line, you become
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Speaker 1: just like John Fetterman in Pennsylvania. You already got people
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Speaker 1: lining up ready to run against him in 28.
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Speaker 2: Now, of course.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to get some people that's going to look
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Speaker 1: at me sideways. Because as a black man. There is
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Speaker 1: this belief. That I should be supporting Scott Cologne. Instead
22:31
Speaker 1: of talking about him, you should be supporting him.
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Speaker 2: Why? Didn't we already go through this before?
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Speaker 1: In 2008, how many people voted for Barack Obama just
22:44
Speaker 1: because he was black? How many people voted for him
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Speaker 1: in 2012 just because he was black? The last time
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Speaker 1: Cindy Hyde Smith ran for the Senate, how many people
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Speaker 1: voted for Mike Espy just because he was black? And
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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to sit here and sound like I'm
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Speaker 1: a Cindy High Smith simp. Because I can't stand her either.
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Speaker 1: Cindy High Smith has done a horrific job as a senator.
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Speaker 1: Because she's just as bought as paid for as Roger
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Speaker 1: Wicker is. But yet, you got these people out here
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Speaker 1: thinking that, well, if we get her out, and send
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Speaker 1: Scott Colombe in, things will get better. That's wishful thinking.
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Speaker 1: There's a reason why Washington, D.C. is called the swamp.
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Speaker 1: Because you go in one way, and you come out
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Speaker 1: another way. It's almost like when you go to a
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Speaker 1: barbershop to get a haircut, you go in one way,
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Speaker 1: look in one way, then you come out looking a
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Speaker 1: completely different way. Except at least there are some good
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Speaker 1: things about coming out of a barbershop with a haircut
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Speaker 1: and not coming out of Washington, D.C. as a tainted politician.
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Speaker 1: When you look around this country. And you just see
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Speaker 1: some of the most polarizing races going on right now.
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Speaker 1: The Georgia's governor's race between Keisha Lance Bottoms, who used
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Speaker 1: to be the mayor of Atlanta, and Rick Jackson. That's
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Speaker 1: in toss-up territory. In Florida, their governor's race between Byron
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Speaker 1: Donalds and David Jolly. You got the governor's race out
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Speaker 1: in California, Xavier Beccara against Steve Hilton. You got the
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Speaker 1: Senate race in Michigan, Mike Rogers against Abdul Asayed. The
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Speaker 1: Senate race in Iowa, which some political forecasters think could
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Speaker 1: swing the Democrats' way. And of course, I could not
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Speaker 1: forget to mention the hotly contested Senate race in Texas
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Speaker 1: between Ken Paxton and James Tallarico. This whole midterm cycle
25:26
Speaker 1: is nothing but a referendum on Donald Trump's first two
25:32
Speaker 1: years of his second term. And you have people that
25:37
Speaker 1: have become dismayed by everything that's happened. The war to run,
25:44
Speaker 1: gas prices, home prices, grocery prices, tuition, all these things,
25:49
Speaker 1: health care. Seeing him and his family enrich themselves while
25:55
Speaker 1: everyone else continues to live paycheck to paycheck for the
25:58
Speaker 1: most part. And yet so many people think if I
26:10
Speaker 1: go in there and I vote for the other party,
26:12
Speaker 1: things are going.
26:13
Speaker 2: To get better.
26:19
Speaker 1: I used to be that person. I used to be
26:23
Speaker 1: the person that couldn't wait to go cast the vote.
26:28
Speaker 1: I tell you, when I turned 18, I couldn't wait
26:32
Speaker 1: to go to the courthouse to get registered to vote.
26:36
Speaker 1: Because I understood what our ancestors and the people that
26:42
Speaker 1: came before us, I understood what it was that they
26:45
Speaker 1: died for. The right to give us the right to vote.
26:50
Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to take anything away from what
26:52
Speaker 1: they did. Because it took a lot of courage to
26:57
Speaker 1: defy what people wanted to be traditional. Black people and
27:03
Speaker 1: other minorities not being able to vote. And they say,
27:07
Speaker 1: you know, we're not going to go for that. We're
27:09
Speaker 1: going to get our right to vote. I understand the
27:13
Speaker 1: enormous sacrifice that they made. But every time I hear
27:17
Speaker 1: someone talk about you need to go vote because somebody
27:20
Speaker 1: died to get you that right, that's true.
27:23
Speaker 2: But back then, when they were.
27:27
Speaker 1: Going out and protesting and going to jail and dying
27:32
Speaker 1: to get the right to vote, voting meant something then.
27:36
Speaker 1: Because back then you really could change the fortunes of
27:39
Speaker 1: your situation if you went and cast a vote. But
27:45
Speaker 1: these politicians now and political corruption has always existed.
27:49
Speaker 2: Let's not act like it hasn't.
27:50
Speaker 1: But it has gotten so rampant now till it makes
27:53
Speaker 1: people sit on the sideline and think to themselves, well,
27:56
Speaker 1: what would my vote really change? Is not to denigrate
28:02
Speaker 1: those who came before us that fought to get us
28:06
Speaker 1: the right to vote.
28:07
Speaker 2: It's nothing against them. It's more of looking at the current.
28:13
Speaker 1: System and saying, I do not want to take part
28:16
Speaker 1: in a system that doesn't care about me one way
28:19
Speaker 1: or the other.
28:23
Speaker 2: The Democrats, they act like they care about affordability.
28:27
Speaker 1: They don't. The Republicans act like they care about affordability.
28:32
Speaker 2: They don't.
28:37
Speaker 1: The Democrats act like if they get power, they're going
28:40
Speaker 1: to go in there and force Donald Trump to end
28:42
Speaker 1: the war with Iran.
28:44
Speaker 2: They're not because you have.
28:46
Speaker 1: Some Democratic politicians who are on the AIPAC dime, just
28:50
Speaker 1: like most Republicans are. So they really would be losing
28:55
Speaker 1: out if that were war to end. They'll tell you
29:05
Speaker 1: whatever they have to tell you to get you in
29:07
Speaker 1: there to vote. And then they'll forget all about you.
29:10
Speaker 1: And then when it's time to run for reelection, then
29:13
Speaker 1: they'll try to scurry to hurry up and get little
29:15
Speaker 1: things done. So that way they'll make it seem like
29:18
Speaker 1: they didn't forget about you. I always hearken back to
29:24
Speaker 1: Malcolm X's ballot or the bullet speech. And in that speech,
29:27
Speaker 1: he talked about this very thing, but in a different context.
29:32
Speaker 1: He talked about how black voters. put the Democrats in
29:37
Speaker 1: control of the White House and in Congress. They get
29:40
Speaker 1: all the other legislation passed. And then when it's time
29:43
Speaker 1: for him to come up for reelection, then they bring
29:45
Speaker 1: up your concerns.
29:51
Speaker 2: They had time to address all of these problems that
29:54
Speaker 2: they claim are so prescient. But did absolutely nothing.
29:59
Speaker 1: And these are the same Democrats that had no problem
30:02
Speaker 1: sending billions upon billions of dollars to Ukraine to help
30:06
Speaker 1: Volodymyr Zelensky in his war against Russia. These are the
30:11
Speaker 1: same Democrats that had no problem. Spending all this money. On.
30:21
Speaker 1: You can just point out whatever it is and just
30:24
Speaker 1: say if that money had been spent here instead of there,
30:27
Speaker 1: we may not be in this situation. The Inflation Reduction Act,
30:32
Speaker 1: did it really curb inflation?
30:35
Speaker 2: It didn't.
30:36
Speaker 1: If anything, it helped to hyperextend inflation to the point
30:40
Speaker 1: where it is now. You can't even go in a
30:43
Speaker 1: grocery store now without grimacing. And yet they act like
30:51
Speaker 1: they're the party that can get everything back on kilter.
30:57
Speaker 1: When they're the ones that play it a hand in
30:58
Speaker 1: getting it off kilter. And then you got the president.
31:06
Speaker 1: Who's going around the country rallying the base. Telling anybody
31:12
Speaker 1: that will listen that if you vote the Republicans back
31:15
Speaker 1: in and if they keep both majorities in Congress, that
31:20
Speaker 1: he'll give every adult American citizen five thousand dollars. And
31:26
Speaker 1: you got people at those rallies just cheering for. Yes,
31:29
Speaker 1: I love my president. He cares about me. He'll give
31:32
Speaker 1: me five thousand dollars if we keep the Republicans in
31:34
Speaker 1: the majority.
31:35
Speaker 2: Hey, think about this for a second.
31:39
Speaker 1: Y'all were the same ones complaining about inflation when Biden
31:43
Speaker 1: was president. If Donald Trump gave every single adult American
31:47
Speaker 1: citizen five thousand dollars, what do you think that's going
31:50
Speaker 1: to do to inflation? It doesn't take someone with an
31:54
Speaker 1: economics degree from a top notch university to understand why
31:58
Speaker 1: that would be detrimental to the economy that's.
32:01
Speaker 2: Already teetering on the edge.
32:05
Speaker 1: When you have an economy like the one we have,
32:09
Speaker 1: you just can't go out and randomly hand out money.
32:13
Speaker 1: Because if you think inflation is high now, wait until
32:16
Speaker 1: you pour all that money into people's pockets.
32:20
Speaker 2: It'll really drive up inflation.
32:25
Speaker 1: Now, this is the same president that promised a tariff dividend,
32:30
Speaker 1: a doge dividend. The only people that got a dividend
32:34
Speaker 1: from this administration were active duty military personnel. That one
32:39
Speaker 1: thousand seven hundred and seventy six dollar military dividend that
32:43
Speaker 1: he gave out. And only thing he did was move
32:47
Speaker 1: some money around in the. pentagon budget to get that
32:51
Speaker 1: done so it wasn't necessarily like a dividend it was
32:53
Speaker 1: just money that was already allocated to the pentagon he.
32:56
Speaker 2: Just moved it.
33:01
Speaker 1: And you got people thinking see this is a guy
33:04
Speaker 1: who really cares about the everyday americans no he doesn't.
33:09
Speaker 2: He's already shown you that.
33:12
Speaker 1: Donald trump does not give a damn about the suffering
33:15
Speaker 1: of everyday americans and the democrats don't either They just
33:21
Speaker 1: make you believe that they care. Or if I go
33:26
Speaker 1: roll up my sleeves and go to a town hall
33:30
Speaker 1: in a high school gym and have people thinking that
33:33
Speaker 1: I'm really listening, they may give me their vote.
33:35
Speaker 2: That's wishful thinking.
33:40
Speaker 1: Or if I go walk around on somebody's farm and
33:42
Speaker 1: hear them talk to me about diesel prices and how
33:46
Speaker 1: much it costs for fertilizer, they may actually give me
33:48
Speaker 1: their vote.
33:49
Speaker 2: And I'm listening with half an ear. It's reckless. Very,
33:59
Speaker 2: very reckless.
34:07
Speaker 1: I mean, you have people that will line up to
34:10
Speaker 1: go to these rallies to hear these people talk and
34:14
Speaker 1: deliver on absolutely nothing. Think of all the thousands of
34:19
Speaker 1: people that you see lined up outside of buildings when
34:22
Speaker 1: Donald Trump comes to their town. And they stand out
34:25
Speaker 1: there in the heat. They stand out there in the rain.
34:28
Speaker 1: They stand out there in the cold. Just to get
34:31
Speaker 1: in to hear him spew the same BS over and over.
34:35
Speaker 2: And over and over again. Like you really would. I
34:42
Speaker 2: don't understand.
34:46
Speaker 1: How so many MAGA Republicans can go to those rallies,
34:51
Speaker 1: hear him talk about the same stuff, and then when
34:56
Speaker 1: he's done, the YMCA music comes on, he does his
35:00
Speaker 1: little Trump dance, and then he walks off stage, really
35:03
Speaker 1: making you think that he cares about your situation. It's
35:11
Speaker 1: almost like a has-been artist trying to revive their career,
35:16
Speaker 1: coming to your town and playing the songs that used
35:20
Speaker 1: to be good at one point in time that aren't
35:23
Speaker 1: good now, but you have some people in the crowd
35:27
Speaker 1: that just love the nostalgia of it and they'll keep
35:29
Speaker 1: on propping the person up. Every single speech you listen
35:38
Speaker 1: to is always the same substantive information. And most of
35:45
Speaker 1: the time, he doesn't necessarily even really talk much about
35:51
Speaker 1: the person that he's in the state to campaign for.
35:56
Speaker 1: When he goes to South Carolina, you'll forget that he's
35:59
Speaker 1: there campaigning for Darlene Graham. When he's in Texas, you'll
36:04
Speaker 1: forget that he's even campaigning for Ken Paxton. Now, he's
36:09
Speaker 1: made it a point to note that when he's in
36:11
Speaker 1: Ohio campaigning for John Husted, oh, he'll let you know
36:14
Speaker 1: he's there for him. But as you guys heard the
36:17
Speaker 1: other day when he was talking about Husted, talking about
36:20
Speaker 1: he looked him up and down, he looked at his ass,
36:23
Speaker 1: he looked at his shoulders. Think about that. Let's just
36:27
Speaker 1: say for the sake of argument. If Obama was campaigning
36:32
Speaker 1: in Michigan for Abdul Afzal, And he said the exact
36:36
Speaker 1: same things about Assad that Trump has said about Houston.
36:41
Speaker 1: What would Barack Obama be called? Barack Obama would be
36:45
Speaker 1: called gay. But Trump says the same things about Houston.
36:52
Speaker 1: And the crowd, they laugh.
36:54
Speaker 2: This is why we love Trump. He's so funny.
36:59
Speaker 1: Saying stuff like that about another man that would be
37:01
Speaker 1: considered gay if it was said by somebody else.
37:07
Speaker 2: But he says it. Oh, it's a joke. You guys
37:10
Speaker 2: have no sense of humor. He was just joking about
37:12
Speaker 2: John Husted and how he's built. Why is that the focus?
37:19
Speaker 1: Aren't you supposed to be talking about Husted and what
37:21
Speaker 1: he's done for Ohio and if he gets another six
37:24
Speaker 1: years in the Senate, what he can do? And when
37:30
Speaker 1: he's campaigning for Pax and he talks about how Pax
37:33
Speaker 1: and how he dresses and how he's not really the
37:36
Speaker 1: life of the party and so on.
37:37
Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, do you want him to win or not?
37:42
Speaker 2: You say all these.
37:43
Speaker 1: Disparaging things about Paxton. And then when Cornyn doesn't want
37:47
Speaker 1: to come out and support him, then you would blame
37:51
Speaker 1: him and Karl Rove if Paxton lose to Tallarico, which
37:55
Speaker 1: is looking more and more as the days go by
37:57
Speaker 1: as a probability of happening. When you think about these
38:07
Speaker 1: rallies and the way that they're being described, you hear
38:13
Speaker 1: a lot of MAGA Republicans talk about, this is Donald
38:16
Speaker 1: Trump going out there, putting feet to the pavement, making
38:21
Speaker 1: sure that all the Republican candidates win. That's not what
38:24
Speaker 1: this is. If he was so sure that Republicans would
38:31
Speaker 1: win the midterms, he wouldn't need to be jetting around
38:34
Speaker 1: the country. Because his accomplishments would do the talking. This
38:42
Speaker 1: is a man that understands that the American people have
38:46
Speaker 1: grown disillusioned with his leadership. And so he has to
38:51
Speaker 1: go around the country and remind people why it is
38:54
Speaker 1: of the utmost importance to vote Republican. We know we
38:59
Speaker 1: let you down in the first two years, but give
39:02
Speaker 1: us two more and we guarantee you we won't let
39:04
Speaker 1: you down this time. And you actually have some people
39:09
Speaker 1: that actually think that is going to be different next time.
39:15
Speaker 1: It's almost like when you're in a relationship and your
39:19
Speaker 1: significant other cheats on you and they promise that if
39:22
Speaker 1: you give them another chance, they won't do it anymore.
39:24
Speaker 2: Then they turn around and they cheat on you again.
39:29
Speaker 2: That's what's happening.
39:30
Speaker 1: With this political system give us another chance we won't
39:33
Speaker 1: do you wrong this time we promise democrats the same
39:39
Speaker 1: way give us another chance we won't f this up Well,
39:44
Speaker 1: how can you say that when we know that there
39:47
Speaker 1: is going to be, if they get control of either chamber, hell,
39:51
Speaker 1: if they get control of both chambers, there is going
39:54
Speaker 1: to be a massive power struggle that's going to take place.
39:59
Speaker 1: Because you're going to have the traditional wing of the
40:01
Speaker 1: Democratic Party fighting the more socialist wing of that party.
40:05
Speaker 1: And they may not want Hakeem Jeffries to be the speaker.
40:09
Speaker 1: They may not want Chuck Schumer to be the majority leader.
40:13
Speaker 1: They may want to go in different directions. Hell, you
40:20
Speaker 1: may get, if the Democrats get control of the Senate,
40:23
Speaker 1: they may want to put Bernie Sanders up there as
40:25
Speaker 1: majority leader. You just never know with these people. But
40:35
Speaker 1: all I'm saying is that when you take a look
40:38
Speaker 1: around and you look at your situation, Both parties have
40:44
Speaker 1: had an opportunity here in the last six years to
40:49
Speaker 1: show you what they can do. Do you feel confident
40:54
Speaker 1: that either party can deliver when both of them have
40:56
Speaker 1: already been in power? So I talked about earlier in
41:06
Speaker 1: the show. The possibility of Donald Trump becoming a lame
41:10
Speaker 1: duck president if Democrats get both chambers. The natural question
41:16
Speaker 1: to follow up that statement would be what Donald Trump
41:21
Speaker 1: would focus on in the final two years of his term.
41:27
Speaker 1: I think we would see Donald Trump become more of
41:29
Speaker 1: a president that's focused on foreign policy. Really working hard
41:35
Speaker 1: to get Russia, Ukraine solved, to get the situation in
41:39
Speaker 1: Iran over with, preventing China from inevitably invading Taiwan. I
41:45
Speaker 1: still think that's going to happen. I don't I don't
41:47
Speaker 1: necessarily care what he or Xi Jinping says. I still
41:50
Speaker 1: think that's going to happen. My prediction is that I
41:52
Speaker 1: think is going to happen before this decade is over.
41:55
Speaker 1: I could be wrong, but I don't think I am.
42:00
Speaker 1: And maybe that's just the narcissist in me. But if
42:04
Speaker 1: you're China, you're not doing the things that you've been
42:06
Speaker 1: doing around Taiwan in the South China Sea for no reason.
42:13
Speaker 1: There's a reason why they do the things that they do.
42:19
Speaker 1: So that's going to be the focus of Donald Trump's
42:21
Speaker 1: final two years if the Republicans cannot hang on to
42:25
Speaker 1: the majority. Foreign policy is going to be his focal point.
42:31
Speaker 1: Because there's not really anything domestically that he's going to
42:34
Speaker 1: be able to do with a Congress controlled by the
42:36
Speaker 1: Democrats because they'll block it. And we know that if
42:42
Speaker 1: they get control, they're going to try to impeach him.
42:44
Speaker 1: They're going to try to impeach Pete Hexeth. They're going
42:47
Speaker 1: to try to, which I honestly, hell, at this point,
42:50
Speaker 1: they can go ahead and impeach Pete Hexeth. I'll actually
42:53
Speaker 1: be in favor of that one. Try to get RFK Jr.
42:59
Speaker 1: They'll try to get the whole damn cabinet if they can.
43:01
Speaker 1: They'll try to subpoena Pam Bondi. Somebody needs to subpoena
43:08
Speaker 1: Kimberly Guilfoyle after what she's been doing over there in Greece.
43:12
Speaker 1: I should have to resign from that post it's funny
43:16
Speaker 1: this is an administration that's all about corruption and then
43:19
Speaker 1: when somebody like her corruption comes to the forefront it's
43:24
Speaker 1: a bridge too far and speaking of a bridge too
43:34
Speaker 1: far there has been a lot of talk surrounding this
43:41
Speaker 1: ad That's been going around in Ohio. In that governor's race.
43:48
Speaker 1: Vivek Ramaswamy. Is running against Amy Acton. To see who
43:52
Speaker 1: is going to succeed. Mike DeWine. If I remember correctly.
43:56
Speaker 1: He's the current governor. Up there in Ohio. So.
44:00
Speaker 2: This particular ad. Features the estranged mother.
44:06
Speaker 1: Of Amy Acton. Claiming that her daughter is nothing but
44:10
Speaker 1: a liar.
44:12
Speaker 2: And.
44:13
Speaker 1: If she can't help herself, how can she help you
44:15
Speaker 1: in Ohio? Now, the back story to that, if you
44:18
Speaker 1: haven't heard it, is that Amy Acton was taken from
44:24
Speaker 1: her mother. And her father got primary custody of her
44:29
Speaker 1: at 12 years old because her stepfather was sexually abusing her.
44:36
Speaker 1: And her brother, if I remember that correct. So if
44:41
Speaker 1: you're someone with any moral fiber in your body, you
44:47
Speaker 1: would look at that ad and you would say, well,
44:50
Speaker 1: how can you talk about your daughter when you defended
44:53
Speaker 1: your husband who was sexually abusing your daughter? You wouldn't
44:58
Speaker 1: take your daughter's side. So you decided to stand there
45:02
Speaker 1: with your husband and say essentially that your daughter was lying.
45:06
Speaker 1: There's a reason why the state took your daughter from
45:09
Speaker 1: you and gave primary custody to her father. If there's
45:14
Speaker 1: one thing in this life that I can't stand, I
45:19
Speaker 1: can't stand an unfit parent. You bring these children into
45:26
Speaker 1: the world and yet you do everything in your power
45:31
Speaker 1: to endanger them to the point where the state has
45:35
Speaker 1: to come in. And take him away. So there's been
45:42
Speaker 1: a lot of backlash. Behind this ad. And of course
45:48
Speaker 1: Vivek Ramaswamy came out and basically. To paraphrase what he said.
45:53
Speaker 2: Is like so.
45:54
Speaker 1: To complain about. And of course J.D. Vance had to
45:59
Speaker 1: come to the rescue. And he basically said the same thing. Hey,
46:04
Speaker 1: so I mean, it is what it is.
46:07
Speaker 2: She's a liar.
46:09
Speaker 1: You can't trust her to lead Ohio. And then, of course,
46:13
Speaker 1: you have to get Donald Trump involved. And he basically
46:15
Speaker 1: said the ad was fair game. And he, of course,
46:19
Speaker 1: like the narcissist that he is. He had to put
46:23
Speaker 1: himself in there and say, well, look how badly they've
46:25
Speaker 1: treated me.
46:29
Speaker 2: Any chance.
46:31
Speaker 1: Vivek Ramaswamy had to become governor of Ohio.
46:36
Speaker 2: Has slipped away. Now, it's bad enough that you have.
46:44
Speaker 1: Racist Republicans in Ohio that weren't going to vote for
46:48
Speaker 1: Ramaswamy anyway because he was an Indian. Now you've given
46:53
Speaker 1: even more people even more fuel to say we can't
46:55
Speaker 1: get behind you either. Because sometimes in politics you have
47:00
Speaker 1: to understand that it's not all about winning an election.
47:04
Speaker 1: It's about protecting your own integrity and preserving your own
47:09
Speaker 1: moral compass. And he chose not to do either of
47:17
Speaker 1: those things. So essentially, he's handed Amy Acton this election
47:25
Speaker 1: on a silver platter. It's just her job here in
47:28
Speaker 1: the final 10 days not to fumble it. Any political
47:38
Speaker 1: aspirations that he had beyond being governor of Ohio, they've
47:43
Speaker 1: taken a hit. Because we know what Vivek wanted to do.
47:48
Speaker 1: He wanted to go and become the governor of Ohio,
47:51
Speaker 1: do a good job there, so somewhere down the line
47:54
Speaker 1: he could set himself up for another run at the presidency.
47:57
Speaker 1: That was the goal. Because there's just something about Ohio
48:02
Speaker 1: when it comes to creating presidents that they're good at.
48:11
Speaker 1: But you've had many people saying they could not get
48:14
Speaker 1: behind Vivek Ramaswamy, not because they disagree with his policies,
48:19
Speaker 1: but they just disagree.
48:20
Speaker 2: With him being an Indian.
48:24
Speaker 1: The same way that you probably have some Floridians who
48:27
Speaker 1: can't get behind Byron Donalds because he's black.
48:35
Speaker 2: It is what it is.
48:36
Speaker 1: I call balls and strikes on this show. And there
48:46
Speaker 1: are certain paths that you don't cross. And this was
48:51
Speaker 1: one of those where I felt like and most people
48:54
Speaker 1: feel like you shouldn't have crossed. There are ways to
48:58
Speaker 1: get your point across about your opponent without going this low.
49:05
Speaker 1: And for some reason, he just didn't understand that. Do
49:10
Speaker 1: you want to be governor of Ohio that bad that
49:13
Speaker 1: you're willing to sink that low? And yet, you're going
49:25
Speaker 1: to have some people that are going to say, we
49:26
Speaker 1: just need to overlook that. It's not important. We can't
49:32
Speaker 1: let socialists get into these offices. Speaking of not letting
49:39
Speaker 1: socialists get into these offices. Going back to that $ 5, 000 thing.
49:46
Speaker 1: Every adult American would get $ 5, 000 if the Republicans held
49:50
Speaker 1: on to the majorities. What does that sound like? Now,
49:54
Speaker 1: I already told you they would drive up inflation. All
49:57
Speaker 1: that money just flowing around. That drives up inflation. But
50:02
Speaker 1: what is that called? Well, the government just readily hands
50:05
Speaker 1: you money. If I'm not mistaken, isn't that socialism? Isn't
50:12
Speaker 1: the crux of socialism the government taking care of basically
50:17
Speaker 1: every one of your needs? Donald Trump and the Republicans
50:23
Speaker 1: claim they're so against socialism, but they wouldn't mind that $ 5, 000.
50:36
Speaker 2: You see the hypocrisy in this mess.
50:40
Speaker 1: I hope that in this episode today, I've laid out
50:44
Speaker 1: all this hypocrisy. Because there are tons of it. If
50:59
Speaker 1: that's not socialism, I don't know what is. Just like
51:05
Speaker 1: with the protests that are going on in France right now.
51:10
Speaker 1: France has pretty much handed their citizens everything. Silver platter.
51:14
Speaker 2: And yet they're still protesting. You only have a, what
51:21
Speaker 2: is it.
51:21
Speaker 1: A 30-hour work week, health care, vacation time, child care.
51:28
Speaker 1: You pretty much get a pretty comfortable life in France.
51:32
Speaker 1: And they're still not happy. Speaking of still not being happy,
51:44
Speaker 1: I want to get to this. Even though I'm not
51:47
Speaker 1: necessarily a big fan of either one of these people,
51:50
Speaker 1: I just need to get to this because I feel
51:51
Speaker 1: like it's important to talk about in the terms of
51:55
Speaker 1: this political system. So there is currently a beef going
52:01
Speaker 1: on between Stephen A.
52:03
Speaker 2: Smith and D.L. Hugo.
52:07
Speaker 1: Recently, Stephen A. Smith went to a dinner at the
52:11
Speaker 1: White House. With Donald Trump, Kid Rock, and Bill Maher. Now,
52:16
Speaker 1: to let Stephen A. Smith tell it, all the concerns
52:19
Speaker 1: that he's had about Donald Trump, he voiced them at
52:22
Speaker 1: the dinner. And he said that Donald Trump received the
52:27
Speaker 1: criticisms well. That hasn't sat right with a lot of people,
52:33
Speaker 1: including the aforementioned D.L.
52:35
Speaker 2: Hughley.
52:43
Speaker 1: Here's the problem that I have with people like D.L.
52:45
Speaker 2: Hughley. I know that what I'm about.
52:49
Speaker 1: To say is going to be controversial, especially in the
52:51
Speaker 1: black community, but it is what it is. I, for one,
52:56
Speaker 1: have never thought D.L.
52:57
Speaker 2: Hughley was that funny. Number two. People like D.L.
53:04
Speaker 1: Hughley is the problem with the black community. The black
53:11
Speaker 1: community has sold its soul to the Democratic Party. And
53:17
Speaker 1: has not really gotten anything in return of tangible interest. See,
53:24
Speaker 1: the Democrats don't even have to campaign for the black
53:27
Speaker 1: vote anymore because they know that it's damn near a
53:30
Speaker 1: shoo-in that they'll get it. Because they know that the
53:34
Speaker 1: only thing they have to do is get people like D.L. Hughley,
53:37
Speaker 1: Charlemagne Tha God, among others, to go out there and
53:40
Speaker 1: toe the line for the Democratic Party and it gets
53:42
Speaker 1: people on the boat, essentially.
53:53
Speaker 2: The problem, the real problem that D.L.
53:58
Speaker 1: Hughley has with Stephen A. Smith is that Stephen A.
54:02
Speaker 1: Smith is not 110% bought in. To the Democratic Party.
54:13
Speaker 1: That's his problem. God forbid. If you're black. And you
54:26
Speaker 1: start having. What I like to call. Democratic withdrawal syndrome.
54:31
Speaker 1: I mean you get annihilated by your own community. And
54:40
Speaker 1: there's this natural belief in the black community that if
54:45
Speaker 1: you're not a Democrat, then you must be a Republican.
54:48
Speaker 2: You must support what Trump's doing. That's not the point.
54:53
Speaker 2: It's not the point.
54:56
Speaker 1: You can be black and not a Democrat. It's called
55:06
Speaker 1: being an independent observer of what you see politically. But
55:18
Speaker 1: yet you have so many of these people in the
55:20
Speaker 1: black community that would die fighting for the Democratic Party.
55:30
Speaker 1: Above all else. And it's always the same talking points. Well,
55:37
Speaker 1: the first black president was a Democrat. Who didn't really
55:42
Speaker 1: do much for the black community when he was president.
55:50
Speaker 1: I mean, there is a certain reverence that black people
55:57
Speaker 1: have when it comes to Obama. It's like he can
56:01
Speaker 1: do no wrong. But yet his administration, when it came
56:08
Speaker 1: to the needs of the black community, left a lot
56:10
Speaker 1: to be desired. And I'm not a Stephen A. Smith
56:22
Speaker 1: fan by any stretch. I think Stephen A. Smith, you know,
56:27
Speaker 1: he is beholden to ESPN. They say jump. He asked
56:31
Speaker 1: how high. The thing is with him is that he
56:37
Speaker 1: claims to be an independent, but he said now he
56:39
Speaker 1: says that he's socially liberal, but fiscally conservative. Which in
56:45
Speaker 1: his own thinking would warrant him to get the title
56:49
Speaker 1: of being an independent. That's the way he wants to
56:57
Speaker 1: see it, and that's the way he wants to see it.
56:59
Speaker 1: I disagree with it, but it is what it is.
57:05
Speaker 1: Last thing that I want to talk about before we
57:07
Speaker 1: wrap this show up for today. Earlier this week, here
57:14
Speaker 1: in the state of Mississippi, the Attorney General's office released,
57:22
Speaker 1: or it was leaked first, then it was released, The
57:25
Speaker 1: body cam footage from the San Antonio Police Department of
57:28
Speaker 1: the shooting of one-year-old Cohen Wiley. Now, for those of
57:35
Speaker 1: you that need a refresher as to what happened here,
57:38
Speaker 1: back in June, Cohen Wiley, his mother, and another woman
57:47
Speaker 1: were in the Walmart in San Antonio, Mississippi. The police
57:53
Speaker 1: were at the Walmart on a unrelated call. While they
58:00
Speaker 1: were in the office, the police, while they were in
58:02
Speaker 1: the office, someone told them that there were two women
58:07
Speaker 1: and a baby with diapers in their hands running out.
58:10
Speaker 2: Of the store.
58:13
Speaker 1: Now, the security footage from the Walmart shows Cohen Wiley's
58:18
Speaker 1: mother and the other female running towards the car. It
58:22
Speaker 1: also shows the police running behind them, telling them to stop, stop, stop, stop.
58:28
Speaker 1: They get in the car. They back out of the
58:31
Speaker 1: parking space. And the car makes his way towards the police.
58:38
Speaker 1: There was one officer with the San Antonio Police Department
58:43
Speaker 1: that when the car made his way to them and
58:46
Speaker 1: somewhat past them, he fired his gun. I think he
58:49
Speaker 1: fired three shots. One of those shots injured the driver.
58:56
Speaker 1: One of those shots killed Cohen Wiley. At the time
59:04
Speaker 1: that it happened, we didn't really know the details of
59:09
Speaker 1: the situation. because the body cam and surveillance footage had
59:12
Speaker 1: not been released. And the community up in Senatobia was
59:17
Speaker 1: a powder keg waiting to explode. Ben Crump immediately got
59:23
Speaker 1: on that case and immediately started calling for justice for
59:27
Speaker 1: Cohen Wiley. Later that summer, he also came back to
59:32
Speaker 1: Mississippi calling for justice for Nolan Webb. So we've waited
59:40
Speaker 1: essentially four months for this footage.
59:44
Speaker 2: To become available.
59:46
Speaker 1: And this week, we finally got a chance to see
59:49
Speaker 1: what transpired that particular day. Let me just say at
59:56
Speaker 1: the outset, Coen Wiley, his death, it was a very
1:00:09
Speaker 1: tragic thing. He was one year old. Didn't ask to
1:00:14
Speaker 1: be here. Pretty sure had a great life that he
1:00:18
Speaker 1: could have lived. But what gets lost in translation when
1:00:24
Speaker 1: you think about this Coen Wiley situation? is that he
1:00:31
Speaker 1: would still be with us today if the mother and
1:00:37
Speaker 1: the other woman didn't go into that Walmart and.
1:00:41
Speaker 2: Steal those diapers.
1:00:46
Speaker 1: It seems like every time you hear Ben Crump talk
1:00:49
Speaker 1: about this case, that fact is just never brought to
1:00:52
Speaker 1: the forefront.
1:00:56
Speaker 2: Cohen Wiley could still be here.
1:01:00
Speaker 1: If they did not resort to the actions that they
1:01:03
Speaker 1: did to obtain what they walked.
1:01:05
Speaker 2: Out of that Walmart with.
1:01:10
Speaker 1: Secondly, if you're the police department, there were other ways
1:01:18
Speaker 1: that you could have addressed that situation without resorting to
1:01:24
Speaker 1: shooting into the vehicle. You could have easily gotten a
1:01:29
Speaker 1: tag number. And you could have easily made the arrest
1:01:32
Speaker 1: at a later date. But of course, the prevailing narrative
1:01:39
Speaker 1: and why the attorney general's office decided to declare the
1:01:42
Speaker 1: shooting a quote unquote justifiable homicide was because the officers
1:01:47
Speaker 1: at the scene felt that their lives were in danger
1:01:49
Speaker 1: because the driver of the car was driving the car
1:01:52
Speaker 1: directly towards them. I'm not sitting here making any of
1:02:05
Speaker 1: this up. If you go and watch the body cam
1:02:07
Speaker 1: footage for yourself.
1:02:10
Speaker 2: Calling right, right and wrong, wrong. I mean, she was
1:02:13
Speaker 2: driving the car in their direction.
1:02:15
Speaker 1: As somebody could easily surmise, well, they could have gotten
1:02:18
Speaker 1: out of the way and avoid getting hit.
1:02:20
Speaker 2: That's true, too. But this whole thing goes back.
1:02:27
Speaker 1: To the original point that you don't hear Ben Crump
1:02:31
Speaker 1: bring up. that you don't hear any of these other
1:02:35
Speaker 1: activists bring up. All of this could have easily been
1:02:39
Speaker 1: avoided had they not gone into that Walmart and stole
1:02:43
Speaker 1: those diapers. And what adds insult to injury when you
1:02:53
Speaker 1: think about Cohen Wiley losing his life is that his
1:02:59
Speaker 1: mother the day of his funeral, posted pictures on social
1:03:07
Speaker 1: media of her just flashing money. So that brings up
1:03:12
Speaker 1: the question, if you can flash money at his funeral,
1:03:15
Speaker 1: why couldn't you take some of that money to go
1:03:17
Speaker 1: buy the diapers that you stole out of Walmart that
1:03:20
Speaker 1: got your son killed? That's the question. You had all
1:03:36
Speaker 1: the time in the world to flash that money. But
1:03:38
Speaker 1: you couldn't take any of that money to go buy
1:03:45
Speaker 1: what it was that you and the friend was running
1:03:48
Speaker 1: out of the Walmart with. Now, I don't know about
1:03:53
Speaker 1: you guys. Maybe there are some of you that can
1:03:57
Speaker 1: relate to what it is I'm about to say. But
1:04:02
Speaker 1: there has never been a day in my life where
1:04:04
Speaker 1: I've thought about going into a store and stealing.
1:04:09
Speaker 2: Because I don't know.
1:04:09
Speaker 1: I don't know if when you got those parents, especially
1:04:13
Speaker 1: a mother, that'll put the fear in God in you.
1:04:16
Speaker 1: If you go in there and do something, you best
1:04:18
Speaker 1: believe that what the police will do to you would
1:04:21
Speaker 1: be nothing compared to what she'll do to you. Because
1:04:28
Speaker 1: some of us got those parents that would tell the police, hey,
1:04:31
Speaker 1: you might have to take me to jail, too, because
1:04:32
Speaker 1: after I get finished with him, I might catch a charge.
1:04:46
Speaker 1: It didn't have to be that way. And yet you
1:04:54
Speaker 1: hear Ben Crump, justice for Cohen Wiley, justice for Cohen Wiley.
1:05:00
Speaker 1: As I stated at the very beginning, it was a
1:05:03
Speaker 1: very sad situation where.
1:05:06
Speaker 2: He lost his life. But it's always been funny to me.
1:05:14
Speaker 1: That we're quick to scream justice for somebody who's black
1:05:18
Speaker 1: when they're killed by white police officers, white people in general.
1:05:23
Speaker 1: But when are we going to start calling for that
1:05:25
Speaker 1: same justice in our own communities when we kill each other?
1:05:31
Speaker 1: Why does our lives only matter when they're taken by whites?
1:05:35
Speaker 1: Why can't black lives matter when they're taken by other
1:05:37
Speaker 1: black people? To bring my point home.
1:05:44
Speaker 2: This week.
1:05:46
Speaker 1: In the city that I live in. There was a
1:05:49
Speaker 1: shooting at an apartment complex. And I didn't hear anybody
1:05:56
Speaker 1: screaming justice for the people who lost their lives there.
1:06:01
Speaker 1: You're not going to see Ben Crump flying here demanding
1:06:06
Speaker 1: justice with the family of those who lost their lives
1:06:08
Speaker 1: because it doesn't fit a narrative. At least not his narrative.
1:06:19
Speaker 1: Our lives should matter no matter who is the perpetrator
1:06:23
Speaker 1: of the violence. If it's black on black crime, black
1:06:28
Speaker 1: lives should still matter. Black lives taken by white lives,
1:06:31
Speaker 1: black lives should matter.
1:06:35
Speaker 2: We're all created.
1:06:40
Speaker 1: And for those of you that aren't religious, you just
1:06:43
Speaker 1: skip ahead. We're all created in the image of God.
1:06:48
Speaker 1: We're all God's children. So all of our lives should matter, right?
1:06:57
Speaker 2: He made us. He knew us before we knew ourselves.
1:07:07
Speaker 1: And yet we get down here on earth and we
1:07:09
Speaker 1: act like our lives don't matter.
1:07:13
Speaker 2: Which is why we.
1:07:14
Speaker 1: Don't have such a hard time going to kill each other.
1:07:26
Speaker 1: We live in a sick society. And that's nothing new.
1:07:31
Speaker 1: It feels like we've been in a sick society for
1:07:33
Speaker 1: a long time here now. And for some reason, it
1:07:37
Speaker 1: doesn't seem like it's getting better. And that's because the
1:07:42
Speaker 1: regard that we have for each other's lives continues to
1:07:46
Speaker 1: go down the tube. Life has to be more sacred
1:07:57
Speaker 1: than we're treating it. We're not doing a good job
1:08:02
Speaker 1: with that. So for me, once again, I hate that
1:08:14
Speaker 1: Cohen Wiley lost his life because it was a senseless
1:08:18
Speaker 1: act that Senatobia police did not have to do, right?
1:08:25
Speaker 1: That being said, everything in life has a Cause and effect.
1:08:33
Speaker 1: The cause of Cohen Wiley's death. Was his mother and
1:08:38
Speaker 1: the friend going into the Wal-Mart still in the diapers.
1:08:42
Speaker 1: The effect of that was Senatobia police doing what they
1:08:45
Speaker 1: felt they had to do. To protect their lives and
1:08:49
Speaker 1: to protect the lives of others at the Walmart that
1:08:52
Speaker 1: particular day so you tell me when you see the
1:09:07
Speaker 1: family and they're grieving over his death I would be
1:09:14
Speaker 1: too I would be grieving If I was a family
1:09:19
Speaker 1: member of Cole and Wiley. But in a lot of ways.
1:09:24
Speaker 1: I would still be upset with the mother. Because y'all
1:09:27
Speaker 1: put him in that situation. That got him killed. All
1:09:37
Speaker 1: I can say in closing. Is that we just. We
1:09:44
Speaker 1: have to want better for each other.
1:09:47
Speaker 2: You know. We just got to pray. It's all we
1:09:52
Speaker 2: can do. Politics isn't going to change this at one bit.
1:10:05
Speaker 1: We have to be willing to have those tough conversations
1:10:08
Speaker 1: that need to be had in order to get us
1:10:11
Speaker 1: to a place where we can move forward. And if
1:10:15
Speaker 1: we're unwilling to have those conversations, then I think it's
1:10:18
Speaker 1: only fair to ask.
1:10:20
Speaker 2: What is it that we're holding on to? What is
1:10:23
Speaker 2: it that we're trying to salvage?
1:10:29
Speaker 1: Because if we can't have an honest conversation about something
1:10:34
Speaker 1: like what happened to Cohen Wiley without people calling you
1:10:36
Speaker 1: a sellout because.
1:10:37
Speaker 2: Your opinion doesn't fit the black narrative, then what are
1:10:40
Speaker 2: we doing?
1:10:48
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't tell you how many people have
1:10:51
Speaker 1: been called sellout, how many people have been called coon,
1:10:54
Speaker 1: how many people have been called a sambo just because
1:10:57
Speaker 1: they don't share the opinion of Ben Crump, who respectfully
1:11:04
Speaker 1: doesn't give a damn about Cohen Wiley. He doesn't give
1:11:07
Speaker 1: a damn about Nolan Wells. He doesn't give a damn
1:11:09
Speaker 1: about any of these victims that he represents. Because you
1:11:14
Speaker 1: got people like Cohen, not Cohen, when you got people
1:11:16
Speaker 1: like Ben Sharp, Ben Crump, Al Sharpton, these people that
1:11:24
Speaker 1: come into the community to feed off our frustration. The
1:11:27
Speaker 1: only thing they're doing is looking at it as an
1:11:28
Speaker 1: opportunity to get more cash. The extortion of the black
1:11:33
Speaker 1: community is even more dangerous when it's our own people
1:11:37
Speaker 1: that's doing the extortion. Now, it's easy for him to
1:11:49
Speaker 1: get up there in his thousand dollar suit, flying down
1:11:53
Speaker 1: here on his private jet. Screaming justice for Cohen Wiley,
1:11:57
Speaker 1: justice for Nolan Wells. And when it's all said and done,
1:12:01
Speaker 1: when the dust clears, he'll get back on his private
1:12:04
Speaker 1: jet and he'll go jet around the country looking for
1:12:07
Speaker 1: his next fight to go fighting. He could care less
1:12:14
Speaker 1: about these victims. Because all he sees is the dollar signs.
1:12:19
Speaker 1: You know, when you're at the casino and you're on
1:12:21
Speaker 1: the slot machine and it's about to spin you out
1:12:24
Speaker 1: a win and then you see everything lining up, all
1:12:27
Speaker 1: three of the things on the machine all come out
1:12:30
Speaker 1: to be the same thing. Every time he sees something
1:12:32
Speaker 1: like what happened to Cole and Wiley, every time he
1:12:34
Speaker 1: sees something that happened to Nolan Wells, it's like a
1:12:37
Speaker 1: light bulb of.
1:12:38
Speaker 2: Money just appeared.
1:12:50
Speaker 1: If getting justice for black people is his aim, if
1:12:57
Speaker 1: it's Al Sharpton's aim, if it's the aim of Black
1:12:59
Speaker 1: Lives Matter, then where are these people in the communities
1:13:04
Speaker 1: when black people kill black people? Where are they at
1:13:09
Speaker 1: when all the violence take place black on black in Chicago?
1:13:13
Speaker 1: Where are they at when all the black on black
1:13:14
Speaker 1: violence happens in Atlanta? Where are they at when all
1:13:17
Speaker 1: the black on black violence happens in Jackson? Where are
1:13:19
Speaker 1: they at when all the black on black violence happens
1:13:21
Speaker 1: in all of these communities of color? Baltimore, Newark, New Jersey.
1:13:26
Speaker 1: Where are they at then? They're nowhere to be found
1:13:29
Speaker 1: because it doesn't fit the narrative. Nolan Wells down on
1:13:39
Speaker 1: Horn Island. Oh, Ben Crump was ready for that one.
1:13:45
Speaker 1: Because it fits the narrative. Nolan Wells with his white
1:13:50
Speaker 1: friends on a boat. They all come back safe and
1:13:54
Speaker 1: sound and he doesn't. The same white friends that Nolan
1:14:01
Speaker 1: Wells had before he was killed. Or before he died.
1:14:07
Speaker 1: Or now the same white friends that most people are
1:14:10
Speaker 1: suspicious of thinking that they had a hand to play
1:14:13
Speaker 1: in his death. You know, Christine Wansley, his mother, she
1:14:23
Speaker 1: had no problem with Nolan Wells having white friends. But
1:14:27
Speaker 1: he comes up dead, then all of a sudden his
1:14:29
Speaker 1: white friends become an issue. Now, I don't like to
1:14:35
Speaker 1: tell anybody how to grieve. Because people do grieve differently.
1:14:43
Speaker 1: You know, the five stages of grief. But let's just
1:14:48
Speaker 1: think about this for a second. There was a video
1:14:52
Speaker 1: that was out not too long ago where Christine Wansley,
1:14:55
Speaker 1: she was at a dinner or something at a house
1:14:59
Speaker 1: where they were doing something in honor of what would
1:15:02
Speaker 1: have been Nolan Wells' birthday. And for somebody who claims
1:15:06
Speaker 1: to be a grieving mother, for somebody who wants justice
1:15:09
Speaker 1: and accountability for her son, she sure as hell seemed
1:15:12
Speaker 1: to have a good time twerking in the damn video. Now,
1:15:15
Speaker 1: what mother do you know who lost their child only
1:15:18
Speaker 1: a few months ago would have been doing something like that?
1:15:22
Speaker 1: Some mothers, you wouldn't even be able to get them
1:15:24
Speaker 1: out the house to go to work, let alone to
1:15:26
Speaker 1: be twerking on social media. Because I know if it
1:15:38
Speaker 1: were my mom, God rest her soul, and if something
1:15:42
Speaker 1: happened to me or one of my brothers, oh, you
1:15:45
Speaker 1: best believe that she would still be distraught.
1:15:48
Speaker 2: You couldn't get her to do anything.
1:15:51
Speaker 1: Because the pain would run too deep for her to
1:15:53
Speaker 1: want to do anything. We have to do better. But
1:16:09
Speaker 1: the sad reality is I don't know if we can.
1:16:13
Speaker 1: Because it seems like we're too far gone. We claim
1:16:22
Speaker 1: we love each other. And black love, you know, black excellence.
1:16:26
Speaker 1: You know, we should be there for each other, man.
1:16:28
Speaker 2: We all we got.
1:16:29
Speaker 1: We sure as hell don't act like it. And we
1:16:34
Speaker 1: always say the same stuff over and over and over again.
1:16:39
Speaker 1: We need to stick together as black people. We need
1:16:41
Speaker 1: to do all this. What good are we doing? And
1:16:47
Speaker 1: we've been saying this, this stuff. Oh, we need to
1:16:49
Speaker 1: stick together, man. We need to beat up our own.
1:16:52
Speaker 1: We sure as hell don't do that. We sure as
1:16:57
Speaker 1: hell don't do that. Let's beat up for each other, man.
1:17:04
Speaker 1: Let's stop all this hate. Let's stop all this jealousy,
1:17:06
Speaker 1: this envy. That's all it seems like we are. Jealous, envious, hatefulness.
1:17:23
Speaker 1: Seems like for most of us, all we care about
1:17:25
Speaker 1: is just the evil, mighty green dollar. Greed is one
1:17:32
Speaker 1: of the seven deadliest sins. And it's always us as
1:17:41
Speaker 1: black people. We're quick to go and get the religious tattoos.
1:17:46
Speaker 1: We'll go get the scriptures tattered on us. We'll go
1:17:48
Speaker 1: get the I'm pretty sure you guys have seen it.
1:17:51
Speaker 1: The tattoos where you got the three crosses and Jesus
1:17:54
Speaker 1: in the middle, the two thieves that he was crucified
1:17:56
Speaker 1: along with on the side. We're quick to go get
1:17:58
Speaker 1: those tattoos to show how much we love God. But
1:18:02
Speaker 1: yet we're willing to go out here and do everything
1:18:04
Speaker 1: that goes against those tattoos we've got on our bodies.
1:18:12
Speaker 1: And I don't claim to be the most religious person
1:18:14
Speaker 1: in the world. Like I told you, this podcast is
1:18:17
Speaker 1: usually called Balls and Strikes. especially John 3.16 for God
1:18:31
Speaker 1: so loved the world that he gave his only begotten
1:18:33
Speaker 1: son that for whomever believeth in him shall not perish
1:18:36
Speaker 1: but have everlasting life.
1:18:37
Speaker 2: You see that tattoo a lot.
1:18:43
Speaker 1: And then you see you know though I walk through
1:18:46
Speaker 1: the valley of the shadow of death I shall feel
1:18:48
Speaker 1: no evil for you are with me you see that
1:18:49
Speaker 1: tattoo a lot.
1:18:59
Speaker 2: But yet, we do everything.
1:19:01
Speaker 1: That is not pleasing in the sight of the Lord.
1:19:11
Speaker 1: This is why you won't see me fond over these
1:19:15
Speaker 1: black celebrities. You got some people, they would quite literally
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Speaker 1: get into a heated argument with you over a celebrity,
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Speaker 1: a person who really don't give a damn about you
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Speaker 1: one way or the other. They don't know you. They
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Speaker 1: don't know you exist. They don't care about you. You're
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Speaker 1: not on their level. So why should they give a
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Speaker 1: damn about your existence? You got some people, they're willing
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Speaker 1: to do everything that it takes to just want to
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Speaker 1: be in the presence of these out-of-touch assholes who don't
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Speaker 1: care about them. So-and-so, he's got money, but he still
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Speaker 1: seems like he's down.
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Speaker 2: There, really.
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Speaker 1: There is a thing in this life called a facade.
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Speaker 1: And some people, they're pretty good about putting on an
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Speaker 1: act to give you the impression that they are what
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Speaker 1: they think that you would want them to be.
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Speaker 2: Now, don't get me wrong.
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Speaker 1: You can have people that gets money and obtain some
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Speaker 1: level of wealth in life that are still the same
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Speaker 1: people as they were when they didn't have that. But
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Speaker 1: more times than not, that's not the case. I mean,
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Speaker 1: why do you have to go and be that kind
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Speaker 1: of person? You got to let the whole damn world
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Speaker 1: know that you got something. And those same people that
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Speaker 1: you look your nose down on your way up will
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Speaker 1: be the same people that you'll see on your way down.
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Speaker 1: You can never get too high, but you got to
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Speaker 1: come down. And all that you've amassed in life, you're
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Speaker 1: not going to take with you when you die. And
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Speaker 1: there is a scripture in the Bible that talks about that.
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Speaker 2: We got to do better. We must.
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Speaker 1: But I'm afraid that we're so far gone that it'll
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Speaker 1: never happen. And with that being said, ladies and gentlemen,
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Speaker 1: that'll wrap up today's edition of the Aguirre's Williams show.
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Speaker 1: I want to thank you guys once again, as always,
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Speaker 1: for listening, however and wherever you choose to listen. Until
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Speaker 1: next time, you guys continue to enjoy your day.
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Speaker 2: Stay safe. Take care. God bless. We're out.
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Speaker 1: Peace.