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07/26/2023 580 Live with Dave Allen - Rob Cornelius, Dana Ferrell, Mike Pushkin · The Dave Allen Show

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in the show, Dana Farrell. That'll get Dana Ferrell is going to join
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this guy that I'm bringing in first as the always entertaining because he is he
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always entertaining. Rob Cornelius, how are you man? I appreciate Dave good
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to be back a couple months. We're gving a good time. You're driving
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all around stake, you're going away gas. That's that's about seventeen hundred bucks.
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I mean someone's getting at ten ninety nine. But it's worth it.
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Well, you know, it's um, it's it's fun life, this life
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that I lead. You're having a glass and Marriott is like one of my
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hometowns when I'm not in West Virginia, so you're welcome at all times.
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I think we've spent a lot of restaurants and well, you know, I'm
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a big fan of the Galley. I'm old enough to call it the adventure
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Galley. That's what it was the time nineties. And also the boathouse that's
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good that works in over and harmor Scenic Virginia's three neighborhood yeah, so it's
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a beautiful you ever had a chance to go up to Marryatta? All right,
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so what have you been up to last time? Well, let me
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last time I had yawn if I remember quickly, you had been at war
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at least a part partly with a few members of the Republican Party in West
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Virginia. Well, I mean that four year process. Supreme Court finally swept
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that dealt with that dismissed the bad guys. I guess I was back in
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April we last talked on air, and we've won that. Now we're just
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going through the legal match nations and making sure they follow the original court order
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from Judge Tabbott here in Charleston, which here before they have not, and
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pursuing other legal possibilities. Beyond that, there's a lot of bad things that
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happened. A lot of civil rights are violated for a lot of voters in
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Wood County and around the state, and some folks need to be correct in
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their actions. So we will work in that right now with our council with
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basically getting everything back to where it was and making sure the state Republican Party
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behaves lawfully, which has been an issue for the last four plus years,
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they just ignore state code. So for people that weren't listening to that,
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what exactly was the A lot oflmost spent a lot of time to all on
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this, but what exactly was the story here? Long story short. I'm
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too aggressive and too conservative for the state Republican Party, or at least I
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was four years ago. I called the leader said party a few things that
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were mean but true. She then proceeded to yes and proceed to throw me,
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try to throw me off the state committee in violation state law. She
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tried to cancel an election, and the Secretary of State went along with that,
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and they did, and I was removed essentially for my free speech against
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her and the governor and various others. And nowhere in law could you do
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that? Courts agreed. Four years later, here we are, So we
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figured that out. We knew we were right, we knew the First Amendments
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still exists in America, and I'm pretty good at the first Amendment. So
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boom, we win. And so where is it now? Is? I
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mean, you won, but we won? But no, they have they
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have not obeyed the court order. They're obviously going to owe my counsel his
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bill for this case. They kept appealing and appealing and we don't wait to
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Supreme Court and lost. So that's gonna be pretty substantial and more important,
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they need to go back and do the things a court ordered them to do,
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which is obviously they reinstated me sort of, but also they need to
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make changes in their by laws to not break state law. Essentially, long
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story short, because they had bad attorneys and bad legal advice, the state
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Party of West Virginia publican party said we don't have to follow a state law,
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it doesn't apply to us. We can do whatever we want. That
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was clearly wrong, and now we're going to have the results of that.
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For me, you know, it's just getting back. I still do political
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consulting, I still work on campaigns, I still work in pr all the
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stuff I used to and all the stuff I've done. And you know,
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I've considered running for things we talked about the last time i's here. We'll
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keep considering on that note, but I'm going to continue be very political and
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be very very involved in our state's races. On that note, Yeah,
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heard rumors that you may be looking at the state wide office. Do you
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care to talk about that? You know the best state wide office that's open
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that has the most enforcement, the most ability to do good in state government.
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I think the state auditors race, and that's moved around obviously. JB
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was in for governor until a couple days ago and now is in for attorney
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general, which ironically you can be a non attorney and run for attorney general.
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I think someone should do that. This is like a comedy thing.
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But the auditors office is has the ability to investigate almost anything the state government,
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and that is really really appealing to me as someone who likes to absolutely
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break faces and bust corrupt politicians period, whether you're stealing money, whether you're
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sleeping with your girlfriend and work on tax prays. We're having to pay for
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it. There's a lot of bad syth that goes down in the state.
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And with the billions of dollars have come flying in and COVID money, Brideband,
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all these things, people are going to steal again. And JB has
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done a good job opening things up with a check book and that office public
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Integrity, making sure that people who are bad get in trouble and go to
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jail. But if I were at it or we would set the record for
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public officials we put in jail gladly. Very few people and again we're talking
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Rob Cornelius. Rob. Very few people have had an issue with the way
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that Jab mccusky has. He's a long time friend. My mom baby sat
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his dad in the fifties and Clarksburg, like I've known these people forever.
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He Wendy used to work with us on campaigns twenty years ago. His wife.
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That's a good family. He did a good job. If he wants
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to move up and out, good for him. But he's done a great
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job that office. And frankly, that's I think a lot of folks had
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consternation about this, thinking he might he might be coming back to it because
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he did such a good job. Hired some people around states, around the
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state that said that they I mean, with all due respect to Jab,
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they wanted him to stay as auditor because they thought he did a good job.
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It's the same thing, by oddly enough, about Patrick Morrissey, Attorney
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General. I heard the same thing about Macwarner Secretary. I agreed. People
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don't have a real beef with those guys and Kent lean hard don't forget about
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them. It's funny in West Virginia, you can win an office and stay
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in it ostensibly forever. Now you do a lot of your business in Ohio.
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I live on the Ohio border. In Ohio, it's different. Everybody's
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term limit, which everybody says they want, we want term limits for everybody.
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But what happens is then the same six people just rotate through their state
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office. If they have a little meeting, they say, well, I'll
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be sec state the next eight years. And so literally in Ohio it's so
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rarely chained as you so rarely break up that board structure, and that the
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state House and Senate worked the same way eight years and either got to go
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up with the state Senate or got to take a break because you can come
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back later in your life. But it's very, very regimented, and there's
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a very strong state party instead of adults that tell you you're going here this
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time, you're going here this time, you're disappearing for four years. So
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you kind of dropped that there a little bit that may be considering a run
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for state auditor. Yeah, and and my issue is, you know,
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I'm I filed an open committee to run for whatever I've done it the last
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three cycles just to have it available to you in case, in case it
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happens. Rally is like you have a day job, and I'm not going
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to make any decisions that affect this until essentially the end of the year.
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I have I announced sports in another state, and I've done it for twenty
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years, and I'm not going to do anything that jeopardizes that or changes that
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until at least the end of my football season. And my employer knows that,
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and I think everyone everyone knows that. But I'm gonna be in involved
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in Western politics the next four months, next four years as I've been,
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and that means I'm gonna keep pressing on things. I mean, there's things
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we're working on investigating right now. You know, I've got I've got a
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vote buying thing I'm working on in Logan County. A bunch of guys you
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probably know Dave work on that for quite a while. I know it sounds
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shockings Republicans this time, but there there are things going on. I've always
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got my my hand in the past someplace, and uh, we're gonna,
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you know, break some people in public I think just for sport, okay,
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and problem Corneli uses with us, So I do know that I think
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Caleb Hannah Delia Caleb Hannah had announced that he's going to run for I've known
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Caleb for a long time, and I've also heard the name Mary Nelson being
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run out there. I've heard the name that means that's certainly a guy from
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Charleston who can run. Look the deal with with these these down ticket offices
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is this, unless you are individually famous or individually wealthy and can just cut
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the check for it, everybody starts at effectively zero. And I think that's
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what Frankly, Jabie mccusky and and well and others are learning this second.
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Even if you've been in office six, eight, ten years or whatever,
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unless you've had a reason something big has happened to be in the front page
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where you had a real competitive campaign, we you spend a million and more
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dollars, nobody has any idea who you are. So geography is critical for
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Caleb. The hard part is he's from I think one of the smallest counties
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in the state of rural area that doesn't bring votes. The ideal candidate for
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any office right now is generic Republican from eastern Hanhandle that brings you the biggest
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packet of primary votes next year. So that's a dangerous person in any race.
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Being from Webster Nicholas is hard. Being from Word is hard. No
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one's ever going to look like the statewide from Calhoun County. Again, there's
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a lot of things like that. So geography is super critical because either people
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will know you from your media market and it's one of the big media markets,
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or you're buried and then you've got to buy your way on. You've
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got to find that million bucks. Yeah, and that's what we're finding right
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now. I mean with with jab and some of these other people that are
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running for governor. It all comes down to dollars and saying here is a
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hard truth for people. I know, all these people in state government that
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I talk to, campaigns I run and deal with all the time. You
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guys think everybody knows you, you go to the right church. You think
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you're in rotary. Everyone knows you because your dad is a baseball umpire fore
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hundred years no no one has any of you who you are, and they
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don't care. If you're below the governor or US Senate level. You are
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lucky for your name. Idea is twenty percent and that applies to all politicians
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good luck. I mean, imagine how much KNT Carper's name idea has dropped
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for that lady not to know who he was. I see that's a joke.
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I slipt that in I got it. I'm asking myself. Should I
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laugh at that? I'm asking? All right? So let's talk about I
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want to switch gear away from you for a moment. Well, no,
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actually I don't. I want to go back one second, all right,
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I want you get me all confused. I don't want to go back.
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I'm like Danny, I'm just gonna throw it through things to the walls to
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which you want to go after. Do you think that the past battles that
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you've had with the State Republican Party could hurt you in a state wide race
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should you decide to run state No, No one. No one cares State
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Hollican Party. You can tell by how much money they raise that no one
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cares. It's an irrelevant organization. They don't pick candidates, they don't pick
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winners, they don't pick the irrelevant. You're saying, the State Republican Party
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is irrelevant. The State Holican Committee, okay, is irrelevant. Okay.
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Republican voters are the most important thing. That organization doesn't move money, doesn't
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move votes. It's basically a social club, so it's not really relevant to
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most campaigns. Okay, all right, switching gears sound. Does Joe Mansion
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run against Jim Justice for sent it? In your opinion? Does he run
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for president? Or does he run to the houses into retirement? He does
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a third party, stretch out the clock as long as you can think for
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president most likely, or just disappears into the sunset and you know, or
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you're gonna have a talk show if he wants. I mean, he can
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have yeah, and he could do it, but that wouldn't interest him.
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He is such a busy guy. Again, I don't I'm not a personally
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a big big fan or big friend of his, but I respect how busy
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he looks his work ethic or at least optically. He looks like he's always
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busy. He looks like a guy carrying six cell phones back when everybody barely
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had one. That's the thing about it. He looks super busy. Like
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him or not, he looks competent and busy, so he can do that.
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He's gonna stretch out the process long as he wants. He doesn't want
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to end his career on a loss. And I think he's smart enough to
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know. Look, here's the numbers, Dave, and not everyone's a big
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election er like we are. He only beat more and Seed by three and
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twenty eight. Yea, he didn't break fifty percent. And since then the
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West Virginia electorate has flipped eighteen percent eighteen four points. Deed are, it
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is impossible. You cannot win as a d here statewide money agnostic. Give
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him twenty million fifty million. What's the difference. That's where you are.
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That's the situation he's in. He can read it. He has a alts
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around him. We were better with numbers than I am. He doesn't.
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That's not a surprise. Who wins for governor? In your opinion? Is
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it too early to tell Patrick Morrissey going away? No one else has shown
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a sign of life. No one else has shown the fundraising. His report
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was nearly flawless, and it was big. If you're gonna be a guy
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who's a cup to check candidate like Chris Miller, don't, I don't see
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it. You have to catch a guy who's now run one two. He's
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been running since twenty twelve and running successfully and while his negatives were raised by
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Mansion Blanketship and I worked with Blanketship in eighteen. Patrick, in a race
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with more than two people in it is an easy winner, all right.
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Last question, Justice v Mooney. Mooney can win. It doesn't look like
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it right now, but he can win you think style, Yeah, because
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he's more conservative. Justice has never had someone actually run to his right and
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run hard. And the ingredients deduced have been there, but prior folks against
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him have not opted to use those things to hit him, you know,
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the one that just came out of the wall this week with Democrats are pushing
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him. But it's frankly something I've been studying since twenty fifteen. Jim Justice
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employs hundreds of foreigners on visas. The Greenbrier speak you know, Spanish,
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Mexican, whatever, that's an issue. De's are gonna play it, the
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arts are gonna play it. Americans in West Virginia who screamed wall are going
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to love that. And that's coming and it's beautiful there, our son.
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How close with this rob There are some high ranking Republicans who shall remain nameless,
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that have told me they are going to do whatever they can to make
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sure Jim Justice is not senator. And these are Republicans we're talking about.
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Well, I've been saying that since twenty fifteen, since I asked him where
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the capital of Israel was the day announced for day announced for governor. He's
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a bad dude, Rob Cornelius. I appreciate it, man. There's always
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a pleasure, dude. Happy to help you fill the time here. It's
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a good time. You're having a good show. Call me when you're in
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off the exit thirty nine in Tay's Valley, Tex says the Cornelius case demonstrates
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what savvy voters know. Every Republican allegation is a confession. The GOP alleges
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the Marxist left wants to cancel you. In the meantime, the West Virginia
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Geopia apparatus literally canceled Cornelius. According to a text or Texas says, I
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like this Cornelius guy. We need a blank buster in office. I appreciate
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that. Can't say what they said, but you can pretty much guess text
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of the women in the state will come out in droves to vote this election.
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You attack their rights, they will attack back. Williams will win big
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for governor. Don't know who texts that, but I don't know if you're
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allowed to gamble on the air. But now there's no way Steve Williams becomes
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governor. No way. With all due respect to Steve Williams. Next Republican
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is the next governor will be a Republican. And I wish Steve the best.
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Is like a Knight nuck guy. But that's just where we are right
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now. Dana Farrell is with us right now. Della good, Dana Fair,
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How are you, sir? A good morning, I'm good. You
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got a lot to find. Hello. When you follow Rob Cornelius, you
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know that's what I hear. You're kind of a laid back kind of a
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guy. So and then we'll wrap it back up and push me. But
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you've got a lot of important things to talk about. I want to talk
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about this proposed water park resort for the area. Now, last time you
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were on the show, you talked about it. You're a little bit of
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egg in details, understandably, So what can you share this time around about
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this? Okay, Well, first thing I want to emphasize is that it
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is still alive. It's still very much in the works. We are.
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In fact, I just talked to the developers in Fort Worth, Texas last
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night. They are still very much the intent to be able to develop here
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in the Charleston metro area with a major resort. This is an eighty million
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dollars first phase, a total one hundred and fifty million dollars total build out.
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They would have already been in here their original plans when they flew in
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here in March to visit do the site, visit and look at the area
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and visit with the local leaders. They wanted to be back here in May
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and break ground, cut ribbon. But we've run in some problems with the
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access road. And exactly are we talking about are you allowed to say yet?
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Well, I can be I think that's not too much of a secret
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now any basement. On social media, even the developers posted things about this,
21:08
and it's at the seventy seven seventy nine interstate splitters a large parcel there,
21:12
about three hundred acres that sits right along between Westmoreland and as you circle
21:17
back up north around seventy seven, and you access at a couple of different
21:22
ways, but one of the main ways I think they're looking as come in
21:23
off a new house Branch road off of Pennsylvania Avenue. That's about eight tenths
21:27
of a mile. It is already asphalt through there, but it's it's just
21:33
not wide enough for you know, if you're looking at more traffic and large
21:37
vehicles and motor homes. Fifth will RVs and that kind of thing coming in
21:41
out of the RV resort. So you know, the requests that just get
21:45
upgraded. So you know, we've been back and forth with the state about
21:48
what that's going to cost, how that's going to take place. The developers
21:52
would like, obviously that to have a surts that that road is going to
21:55
be upgraded to snuff before they make a major commitment on the site. And
22:00
of course the state is like, well, you know, we don't want
22:03
to you know, at the end of being provedent with taxpayer money, but
22:07
they want to make sure that the developer is on board for sure before they
22:11
make an investment in the road. So that's been but you know, we've
22:15
set up a process by which most sides will be protected on this, I
22:22
think, and we're getting there so well, the plans are sitting down with
22:26
the Governor's office this coming week, this next week and be able to go
22:30
through that and hopefully push that across the finish line. What exactly are we
22:32
going to see at this part, this proposed part Okay, great, great
22:34
question. And phase one and that's something they think within twelve months from the
22:40
time they get you know, the ink the deal and sign the agreement on
22:42
the property on the site with the owner, is that phase one be one
22:47
hundred and seventy five RV sites. And these are deluxe RV states. This
22:52
isn't just you know, uh, state park kind of thing. These are
22:55
upscale with the cement pads and patios and h our pits and those kinds of
23:00
things. And one hundred and seventy five of those fifty cabins deluxe water attractions.
23:06
When we say that, you know there's a lot of water. There's
23:07
no water on the site, but they'll create the lakes, ponds, waterfalls
23:12
and in fact, the name of the resort would be Aspen Falls. Is
23:15
what is what has been talented up there, Aspen Falls right it down,
23:19
Ryan, that's the first time we've heard the Aspen Falls and Google. You
23:23
know, they looked at the trees and with native trees in West Virginia and
23:26
the aspen tree is native to West Virginia, and uh, they wanted to
23:30
be able to use the landscape in the topography there to their advantage and would
23:33
create some man made waterfalls throughout the properties. And uh that creates a lot
23:38
of water effects as are attractive when you're looking at tourism and UM, so
23:41
there'd be fifty cabins along with that in that first phase, like I said,
23:45
there will be um indoor outdoor water attractions on that with the pool area
23:52
a lazy river kind of thing. So the uh that would be complimentary to
23:57
promoting the RV resort and average and things attracting people there. And then also
24:03
a mountain coaster. You're familiar probably with those in Pigeon Forwards and forth.
24:06
There's none of those in the state of West Virginia, none of them really
24:07
in the mid Atlantic. You have to go to Manassas, Virginia or Pigeon
24:11
Forwards for the closest one of those. So they felt like that, you
24:15
know, this is something that would draw people from a four hour radius,
24:18
which you know, if you look at that demographics on that, that's about
24:22
a twenty one twenty two million people population base to pull from here in the
24:26
Charleston metro area. Talking with Dela Gadina Farell about this, aspen Falls Falls
24:32
is going to be the name of it. I like it Aspen Falls,
24:33
all right, So let's go and phase two of that. Let's just phase
24:37
one. That's the same eighty million dollars first five Phase two. And the
24:41
reason they want to do that because the RV resort is the quickest they can
24:44
have up and running and creating cash flow and revenue stream. But then it
24:48
would go one quickly to a larger development part of it and is the hotel
24:52
uh Indoor Great Wolf Lodge type of I'm not saying it's going to be that
24:56
brain, but it'll be similar to the Great Wolf lodge type of indoor water
24:59
park along with an outdoor water park side of it that would be open to
25:03
the general public to here local people be able to have access to that as
25:07
well as to people in sight. Uh, they're looking at building an observation
25:11
tower because this property, the higher points of it overlook Yeager International Runway or
25:15
airport, and so visitors can come there and be able to dine and be
25:19
able to look right down on the runway. And as they say, you
25:23
know, air Force one comes and does its touchdown takeoffs here, you can
25:26
say and watch that while you're having lunch or dinner or whatever there. And
25:30
so that's something you know, they say in business, onything better than being
25:33
better is being different, and this would be different from anything else out in
25:37
the country in terms of the U RV and overnight tourism business. All right,
25:44
big question, where's the money coming from? Okay, great, great
25:47
question? Is going to come from Texas in California. That's the great part
25:49
of it. I'll talk about a private thing, right, that's a private
25:52
company of this is not this is not excuse me like to propose capital sports
25:56
complex and I'm not trying to throw shade on that because I'm a big supporter
25:59
of that. But it's not like that. And this is this is private
26:03
developers. It's not tax money or anything like that. These are private developers.
26:06
And let me say that the Capital Sports Complex, they are very aware
26:08
of that and the two kind of working together. They like that. They
26:14
like the idea. So anybody who says, well, you know, uh,
26:15
you know, is this a good investment on a capital sports complex,
26:18
then yes it is because this is what's attracting people like this comment and spend
26:22
their private capital in West Virginia. Uh. Same with the Shawnee Sports Complex.
26:26
They actually went down and visited the sports complex when they're in here in
26:30
March. They've been out to the cross Lands Casino that you know that those
26:33
are things, the uh, the Halfield mcquoitraill. They actually traveled down to
26:37
the new mc gorge National Park and the bridge. They've been there seeing those
26:41
things on the ground. So they understand that these are attractions. They're going
26:45
to pull people to their you know, their resort investment, but their money.
26:52
What they'll do is once they get this up and get the agreement in
26:55
plays, they'll take them thirty to ninety days. They'll go out and solicit
26:57
capital from investors. And in the RV industry is a fifty billion and growing
27:03
in the United States, and so a lot of people are looking places to
27:07
safely put their money with the market all over the places it is. So
27:11
you're looking at a minimum fifteen percent return on your investment in our V industry,
27:15
and that doesn't count some of the incentives the State Tourists and Department is
27:17
going to give them as well, so they won't have me a problem pulling
27:19
Texas and California money into this. And then once it's open, we're looking
27:22
at a forty million dollars up to a forty million dollars annual economic impact to
27:27
the region. And that's money coming in from I said that four. Our
27:30
radius includes Columbus, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Michigan, Pennsylvania. So that's out
27:37
of state money coming being pumped into the local West Virginia economy. All right,
27:42
indeed, all right, so are we out of phases? I mean,
27:45
because you had one? Because I want to move on to sub dout
27:48
segetia. I will say this, you know that. And one other thing
27:49
in that phase two is they want to look at building condominiums up other three
27:55
hundred acres. About a hundred acres of it sits inside of Charleston city limits,
27:57
so everyone on that side they look at maybe putting up condominiums where people
28:02
could actually buy or release and then they would have access to the amenities.
28:03
So that's kind of nice too that they would have there. The other party
28:07
is, you know that they feel like if they can be successful with the
28:11
initial Charleston leyout and they want to put in three or four of these in
28:15
West Virginia. They feel like there's the opportunities here to do that. So
28:17
they're looking at southern West Virginia, more central West Virginia, and some other
28:21
areas. I would think out in the Panhandle would probably the east from Panhanda
28:22
would probably be a no brainer for that as well. We're talking with Dalla
28:26
Good Dana Farrell. You'll keep us updated on that project, I'm sure.
28:29
Now I want to get to this, uh and it has to do because
28:30
you're a sports guy I want to talk about and also you're an educator,
28:33
so I want to talk about this high school what I've referred to as the
28:37
high school transfer portal. Students now student athletes, I suppose, can transfer
28:41
from school to school pretty much as they wish for the purpose of sports without
28:45
sitting out any amount of time. Right, Is that correct? You're sure
28:49
that's what changed. You brought me on the air here and said, you
28:52
know, he's usually pretty easy going guy, but you know, issues like
28:56
this, it really kind of bothers me. You know that that we've headed
29:00
down this direction. As one area coach, I think coach Jamiel Master said,
29:03
you know why, why is the state legislature getting involved in this?
29:07
You know, this is something that coaches, administrators and s s a c.
29:11
Should be looking at and running in. You know, why do we
29:14
have our fingers into this mess? And you know we're seeing already this has
29:18
just been a mitigated disaster in terms of kids moving around. And let me
29:22
say this one of the things I look at, you know, I think
29:26
Central Capital said one time, this state is a state of small towns.
29:30
We're just you know, let's go back to Jason all Dean's there's do that
29:33
at a small town where you know, we're small towns across the state of
29:37
West Virginia, and every small town has its local high school and that's the
29:42
cornerstone of that community, and that those schools identify it the community, community
29:48
to advice with the high school, and so they become a part of integrated.
29:51
Friday Night is more than just a game. It's about a community involvement,
29:53
everybody's social gathering event. And you want your home kids that grew up
29:59
in your church and grew up and you seem in a supermarkets. If we'll
30:02
be able to play with your home team, not playing across the county or
30:06
in another county or somewhere just for their own self benefit in a society where
30:10
it's all about me, it's all about self, you know. We want
30:14
to stress it's about your team, it's about your community and putting others first.
30:18
Let me play Devil's advocate here for a moment. I may have brought
30:19
this up to you in the past. It's kind of an indcidotal type story
30:22
here, but I have a good friend who was a former high school coach
30:25
in an area outside Knaw Valley. I want to preface that he's no longer
30:27
in the coaching game, but he told me once years ago. He and
30:30
I were talking about this fifteen twenty years ago. This is when he was
30:33
still coaching hero We brought up the subject of the high school transfers and whatnot.
30:37
And he said there are some kids that he coached that the only way
30:44
delegate that they were going to be able to make it the college was through
30:45
sports. Maybe they don't have a good enough grades, or the parents can't
30:48
afford to send them, or maybe parents make too much money for them to
30:52
get financial aid. Whatever. The kid has college level skills on the field
30:56
and on the court, but maybe playing for a medio her team, you
31:00
know, they're not surrounded by enough to get them the attention that they deserve.
31:06
His point was, why shouldn't a student be allowed to transfer to another
31:11
school that gives him or her an opportunity to be able to put themselves on
31:17
display. Maybe it's a down year for South Charleston High and they transferred to
31:21
GW. I'm just using that as an example. What I mean that was
31:25
his argument was this, the only way this kid's going to get to go
31:26
to college is if he's on a better team. Your thoughts, Well,
31:30
I spent thirty years teaching and coaching in public schools, and I can tell
31:34
you that, especially in today's environment with all the club and travel teams and
31:38
stuff forth, if that child, if that student that wants to be noticed
31:45
by college recruiter or whatever, they're more than ample ways for them. And
31:48
in fairness, this was fifteen or twenty years ago that we were talking about.
31:51
It's a different world with YouTube and things of that nature. Now,
31:53
is good point these You know, most of the recruiting doesn't happen at the
31:57
high school venue us and stuff, where those college coaches are coming out and
32:01
watching these club tournaments and them, and if it's football, then they go
32:06
to camps and those those camps basically served as combines. And I'll go back
32:10
even twenty thirty. I'll go back our high school time. Kurt Warner came
32:15
out of Single A Pine and went to Penn States. So, uh,
32:20
case debunked right there. Okay, all right, so quickly, how do
32:22
we fix this? You're in the legislator. How do we fix it?
32:25
Well? Uh, you know, what would you like to see happen?
32:28
Well, this came about the history of this. You know, I don't
32:30
think that the majority of delegates that I served with wanted this to happen to
32:34
start with. But it was an amendment that was stuck on to a popular
32:37
Hope scholarship eligibility bill on the last day of session, and because it was
32:43
stuck in there, the entire unpopular part of a bill was stuck into a
32:45
popular one. In order for us to strip that back out of there one
32:49
the last day a would have killed the main part of the bill. So
32:51
a lot of delegates were apprehension would be able to do that, and so
32:54
they just went ahead and voted this through. I don't think, realizing the
32:58
implications that we're going to cause downstream. Uh and the same you noticed that
33:01
the governor did not sign this. He wouldn't veto it, but he wouldn't
33:05
but there again because of the Hope pass out. But he just let it
33:07
go. So he knew and understood the problems was going to create, even
33:10
for his own schoold Creambrier East. But you know what we'll be able to
33:15
do, I think is look at us offer a bill of this coming session
33:20
to reverse that part of it, the Hope scholarship part of his fine.
33:22
But this would go back and take out that. You know, we had
33:25
killed that part of that bill two years straight. It was very unpopular in
33:29
the House. And like I said, the Senator that you know, kudos
33:32
to him, he made a good political move. And he got it across
33:37
the finish line. But I don't think that's going to stand all right now.
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Pushkins here, stated Democratic Party chair and delegate. How are you, mak
37:09
I'm doing great. It's good to see it. I had lots to get
37:12
to with you this morning. Man. Let's get to interims coming up?
37:16
All right, So you got candidates for upcoming elections. I want to get
37:21
to all that a little bit later. On National Story, Hunter Biden doing
37:23
court today to plead do a misdemeanor on tax evasion, also for not documented
37:28
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speculation that he Trump appointed judge. Though Mike will hear the case, Mary
37:36
L. Noriega's her name, may not accept the plea, which could lead
37:40
to jail time for Hunter Biden. I know, yeah here talking we start
37:44
with that, and you ahead and peeled a band aid off. And nobody's
37:46
above the law, and he's pleading guilty, and I should be treated like
37:50
anybody else in a quarter of law. Now, can we talk about the
37:53
interims and let's talk about state politics? Have at it. I'm gonna open
37:57
up to you man, all right, thank you. Yeah. The interims
38:00
scheduled for the believe first week of August. It's like seventh, eighth,
38:02
and ninth. In the Democrats in the House, the caucus that I'm a
38:07
member of, we issued a letter last week calling for a special session.
38:15
And uh, you know, while we're hearing talk of a special session dealing
38:19
with you know this almost I mean, you know, while we're in interims,
38:22
we're gonna be coming up on the anniversary of the governor calling for a
38:25
state of emergency in our correctional facilities. If it's it is a state of
38:30
emergency, it is a crisis, and that means you don't wait around for
38:34
a year until you address it. It needs to be addressed. So we
38:37
are calling for a special session to address that issue, as well as several
38:40
other issues. Also, our crisis in our institutions of higher learning. Uh,
38:46
you know, we've heard the report for not just a w view,
38:49
but but the universities and Alderson brought us in us a school that's been there
38:53
for over one hundred years and uh, you know, might have to close
38:58
its doors. We want to address that crisis, and of course, probably
39:01
the most important, in my opinion, the most important crisis right now facing
39:06
this state. Eight thousand children children in foster care. An issue that's largely
39:09
been ignored by the governor. It's a byproduct, of course, of the
39:15
of the drug epidemic that has just ravaged this state. The governor has largely
39:20
ignored that issue. We have an Office of Drug Control Policy in this state.
39:24
However, it has been vacant. There's no director. He hasn't appointed
39:28
a director. He has left the director of office of the Office of Drug
39:30
Control policy has left that position vacant for now nearly eight months. So you
39:36
can't tell me that's a priority of the governor. And yet we're now over
39:38
a week, almost two weeks from the deadline past the deadline that the governor
39:43
had to appoint directors to the West Virginia First Foundation Board that will determine how
39:49
the drug abatement money is spending, the drug drug settlement money is spent.
39:52
He hasn't appointed anybody to that yet. He has five appointees to make,
39:57
hasn't made a single one yet. He's now almost two weeks as the deadline.
40:00
But let me get back to the issue I was talking about, which
40:01
is foster care, which is a byproduct of this drug problem that the governor
40:05
is failing to address. We have over eight thousand children in the state's custody
40:09
because of this issue, and we've heard reports. Just last week there was
40:15
a report to a three hundred instances, over three hundred children running away from
40:20
the foster care system. Their their situation is so bad they would either sleep
40:24
on the street or sleep in the woods. Then you go to a group
40:29
home or or the placement that they were in, or the reports We've also
40:34
heard that the state has been dropping off some of the foster children in hotels
40:40
throughout the state. Uh, you know, defend for themselves largely unsupervised.
40:45
I think that's just something that would make any parent of a teenager in this
40:50
state just shutter to think that that. You know, if they think about
40:53
their kids just being left alone to fend for themselves in a hotel. This
40:57
isn't how we would treat our kids. You know what these are are kids.
41:00
They're in state custody, and this is a crisis and we need to
41:02
address it. We need to address it yesterday. I'm gonna guess that when
41:07
you hear the governor and you hear folks like Dave Hardy might talk about the
41:12
excess money we have lyne around that, you're you're not impressed. Now,
41:15
you know who's really not impressed. That correctional officer that has to put in
41:17
a twelve hour work day and then drive home fifty to one hundred miles each
41:22
day. They're not too impressed with that surplus. You know, the college
41:27
student who not sure if they can stay in West Virginia to finish their course
41:30
of study because their course of study might be on the chopping block at their
41:34
university or college. I'll tell you it's definitely not impressed. It's some kid
41:37
that got dropped off this morning at the motel six. Are Are you hopeful
41:40
that anything will get done? Are you optimistic as far as the special session
41:45
of the interims Goo, Do you think anything will get done? You know,
41:47
unfortunately in state government, and especially over the last ten years of Republican
41:53
rule, when it's all said and done, a lot more gets said than
41:57
gets done, unfortunately. But we need to get some things done. We
42:00
owe it to those kids that are being abandoned. We owe it to our
42:05
our correctional officers and support staff who's being treated like correctional officers who just not
42:09
paid like correctional officers. We owe it to our our college students. We
42:13
owe it to the future of this state to actually do something about it the
42:15
state. Look, the state needs a governor right now, and we don't
42:22
have one. We have a governor who's more more focused on getting an office
42:25
in Washington, DC than he is on showing up at his office down the
42:29
road here in Charleston. The state deserves to have a governor and a functional
42:32
state government. We don't have it right now, tim minutes away from Tan
42:36
Texas. Hey, Delia Pushkin, here's a quarter call someone who cares.
42:40
If you can find me a pay phone. He actually I saw one the
42:45
other day. They still cost a quarter. I thought didn't use it.
42:46
I have a cell phone, although some places I traveled in this state and
42:50
cell phones are as you well know, uh, not much of a factor.
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put an end to this nonsense or transfer without penalty for athletic youth. Long
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overdue, thanks Dave, Texas, says Dave. The governor is calling for
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something. The delegate is calling for something. Well, I'm calling for something.
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I just don't know what it is, but I'm calling for it.
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So is the Texture Textra says, an average of four overdose deaths every day
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here in West Virginia doesn't even take into account the thousands of other addicts and
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alcoholics needing help each day, let alone the homeless and mentally ill. What
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a rocket ride. Yeah, we are in crisis mode. It has been
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and it's nothing new, and it's not getting better. And yeah, the
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fact that you know, we have an Office of Drug Control Policy that was
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created by the legislature, and we have had some good directors of that office,
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but right now that seat is vacant. There is no director, and
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it's not that there's any more extra funding or extra staff going in to help
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the folks who are doing a good job trying to hold things together over there
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without without an appointed director. But we're now coming up on eight months eight
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months without a director. So it's clearly not a priority for this governor.
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And I said when when we created the West Virginia First Foundation, which is
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supposed to be an independent board to disseminate the money that's going to be coming
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in to our localities for these drug these drugs settlements, each of the regions
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they followed the articles of incorporation and they've elected directors to this board. The
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governor, if you read the articles of incorporation, he had the same deadline,
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and he was supposed to actually, the way I read it, he
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was supposed to make his appointments first because that could have influenced who who the
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regions could have picked or not picked if they obviously, if the governor put
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somebody on, they wouldn't put that person on. But the governor hasn't made
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his selection yet. I've not even heard rumors of who the governor is going
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to put on yet. And it was clear in the articles of incorporation they
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had a certain amount of time to make these appointments, and the governor's appointments
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were actually referred to as initial appointments. My definition at words first, that
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would come first. He didn't make the appointments. It's clearly not a priority.
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He is more focused on running for office than serving in office. Five
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because what you don't know can hurt you. Texas Pushkin loves to complain that
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elaborate on problems that have persisted since before Republican control. The difference now is
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he wants to throw money at the problems like all Dems do. It didn't
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work to previous eighty four years, and it won't now. These problems have
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gotten way worse over the past several years, and as they've gotten way worse
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under the under the administration of James C. Justice because we have an absentee
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governor. And when you have a governor that doesn't show up for work,
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governor that makes appointments where he doesn't even know who he's appointing, and no
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offense to secretarists or saya. I think he's a good person. I know
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him. He's a nice security Chamland Security. But when the governor made that
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appointment, he clearly didn't know who he was. Did you watch the videos?
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I did not know, but watch it. He doesn't know who he's
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appointing, and it's very clear I guess we're going to appoint He can't pronounce
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his name. You think he would have learned how to say the man's name
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before he made the appointment. It's embarrassing, but that's what happens when you
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know for a governor that doesn't show it for work. But I'm not just
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complaining, I'm talking. I mean, these are real issues. I want
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you to put yourself in the shoes as some kid parents have had. Their
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issues are so bad they can't take care of this child anymore, and then
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they get taken away by the state because there's nobody else to take care of
49:21
them. And they can't find a placement for him anywhere because we're not making
49:23
it easy enough for foster and kinship families to open up their homes to these
49:28
children. We're not working with them well enough to actually to create more placements
49:32
for these children, and instead the state cares so little about them that they
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drop them off at a motel. So I think it's an important issue,
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and I think it's something that needs to be on the front burner. It
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needs to be addressed in a special session right now, three minutes away from
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ten. I know you're more concerned, Mike, with things relating to the
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Democratic Party, and I'll get to that momentarily. But of course, Monday,
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State Auditor J. B. Mccuski dropped out of the race for governor,
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opting instead to run for Attorney General. Hill face off against Mike's toward
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and Ryan Well, a couple of state senators, And I know it's early.
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We have a bunch of Republicans that have thrown their hats in the proverbial
50:06
ring for various seats from governor, US Senate, House, so on and
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so forth, Secretary of State and others. Hearing rumors that Honeyja mayor Steve
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Williams may run for governor, looks like he will on the Democratic side,
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What are we going to start to see more Democrats in the mix? I
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know it's early, it is early, and it used to be Labor Day
50:23
was the time. But yeah, why don't we start to see some announcements
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of some Democrats later we get in the summer into the fall. We are
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having lots of conversations with great potential candidates who want to serve the state of
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West Virginia for all the right reasons, because they want to help make it
50:38
a better state. They want to make it a place where you know,
50:42
people want to live, work and raise a family. We're having those conversations,
50:45
and as as soon as we get commitments and websites set up and things
50:50
ready to go, you'll be hearing them in due time, you know,
50:52
the filing periods not until January. We got here well before that, you'll
50:55
be hearing some announcements. You talked about my friend, Auditor mccuski, who
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is I like, he's a good guy. But you know, when I
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heard that, you had Dana Farrell on her delicate Farrell talking about the transfer
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portal. For a second, I thought you're talking about the transfer portal where
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you can just switch from the governor's race for the attorney general's race. Is
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that the transfer port It's a different about Texas. Pushkin is always great at
51:19
pointing out the problems, but never offers any solutions to the problems. He
51:22
just wants to rail about his obsession with a governor. You can't force the
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citizens to take in children or work jobs they don't want to no matter the
51:30
pain. You can actually talk to the foster families and the kinship families like
51:34
like we do on our side regularly have meetings with the groups to advocate for
51:38
the foster families and who are foster families and see what it would take to
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make it easier for them to take in more kids or make it easier for
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to have new foster families. We do have solutions. I'd talk about changing
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the pay scale for our correctional officers and staff so we're able to retain the
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veterans in there, and also addressing the overcrowded the overcrowding in our in our
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jails. And we have solutions, but first we have to have that special
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session to bring it up. I have to have a healthy debate on it.
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All right, Mike, I appreciate it. State Democratic Party Chair and
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delicate Mike Pushkin five and brought to part by your hometown baseball team, the
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Charleston Dirty Birds. All right, we gotta go. My producer was Ryan
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Nicholson. Thank you so much, Mike, always a pleasure to talk to
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you. And Rob Cornelius and Delicate Dana Farrell as well. Somebody asked me,
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I can't find the text about the name of the water park propost Aspen
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Falls is going to be the name of it if it happens. All right,
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I gotta go. See you tomorrow. Un till then, have fun
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