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Sine Vibes with Rep. Breese Iverson · Crosstabs

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SPEAKER_03: Edrill's things doesn't look at our calendar.
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SPEAKER_00: Very important.
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SPEAKER_00: And he likes to remind me I am not.
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SPEAKER_00: Nobody knows me.
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SPEAKER_00: Nobody cares, Regan.
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SPEAKER_03: Does he know what a calendar is?
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SPEAKER_03: I guess we should start there.
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SPEAKER_03: Do you know what a calendar is?
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SPEAKER_02: I do have it.
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SPEAKER_02: I have multiple calendars.
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SPEAKER_02: The problem is,
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is keeping my calendar and all my candidates' calendars and
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then my senator's
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SPEAKER_02: calendar.
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SPEAKER_02: And then I got to look up my wife's calendar.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, boo-hoo.
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SPEAKER_00: I thought I was one of his candidates, but apparently I'm not.
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SPEAKER_02: Boo-hoo.
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SPEAKER_02: You don't have a primary opponent.
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SPEAKER_02: If you did, then you would be.
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SPEAKER_02: Right now, you're out.
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SPEAKER_00: I wind up with another one.
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SPEAKER_00: I get one every year.
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SPEAKER_00: Stop it.
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SPEAKER_02: Great.
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SPEAKER_02: We raised more money.
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SPEAKER_02: He's taking it for granted, I feel like.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_02: You had two opponents last cycle and you beat them both 90-10.
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Listen,
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I want this part deleted because I want...
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No,
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what are you talking about?
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SPEAKER_00: ...that I am properly taken care of for my tough campaign.
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SPEAKER_03: No, we're leaving this in.
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SPEAKER_03: We have a secret plan if we need to deploy it.
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SPEAKER_03: That's what it is.
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SPEAKER_01: We just,
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SPEAKER_03: we aren't going to deploy,
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SPEAKER_03: we aren't going to spend 250 grand in the primary for no reason,
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SPEAKER_03: you know?
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SPEAKER_03: Okay.
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SPEAKER_03: So here's the thing though.
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SPEAKER_03: And speaking of calendars,
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People who haven't looked at a calendar is the people who put
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together the short
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session schedule when we adopted the calendar for that or for
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the hit a ballot
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SPEAKER_03: measure.
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SPEAKER_03: Right.
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SPEAKER_03: Way back in like 08,
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SPEAKER_03: 09 or whatever,
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SPEAKER_03: when they added short session and limited long session,
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SPEAKER_03: which the top line is good.
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You used to just go unlimited session could be as long as you
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wanted it to be or as
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SPEAKER_03: short as you wanted it to be.
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SPEAKER_03: And it was never short.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: It was always it was always too long.
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SPEAKER_03: So limits was good.
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But these guys needed to look at a calendar and realize that we
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went we go from
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short session sine die to filing deadline to one week later
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voters pamphlet
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SPEAKER_03: deadlines.
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SPEAKER_03: That's the work.
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SPEAKER_03: Two days after filing is after filing a Thursday at five o'clock.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: Thursday at 5 o'clock.
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SPEAKER_03: Do not submit your voters pamphlet at 1159, people.
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SPEAKER_03: That is a mistake that has been made by many people and causes many,
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many panicking caucus leaders and consultants and campaign
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managers and candidates.
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SPEAKER_03: That's the worst schedule of all time.
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SPEAKER_03: Friday, sign and die.
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SPEAKER_03: Tuesday, filing deadline.
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SPEAKER_03: Thursday, voters pamphlet.
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SPEAKER_03: Worst week in history is that week.
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SPEAKER_03: We need to break that up just a smidge.
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Thanks for reminding me what week I'm going into,
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so I appreciate that,
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Rick.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah,
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SPEAKER_03: I wish there was somebody around that could help you with that stuff,
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SPEAKER_03: but I can't find anybody.
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SPEAKER_03: There's nobody.
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SPEAKER_02: They're all on vacation.
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SPEAKER_02: Apparently,
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SPEAKER_02: some people just leave when the session's over,
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SPEAKER_02: but not I.
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SPEAKER_02: And not Vicky,
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SPEAKER_02: because Representative Brice Iverson is joining us today.
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SPEAKER_02: Yay!
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SPEAKER_02: One of the... I've seen a lot of, like...
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SPEAKER_02: you know, after session kind of report.
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SPEAKER_02: There was a bunch of stuff.
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SPEAKER_02: that happened in short session.
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SPEAKER_02: And you look at the past of short sessions.
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We all,
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like we tackled measure 110 a couple of years ago,
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and that was like the biggest thing.
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SPEAKER_02: And then there was like a bunch of little stuff, right?
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SPEAKER_02: But no,
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SPEAKER_02: like the,
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the gross amount of big things that we tackled in this short
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session was off the
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SPEAKER_02: charts and none,
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SPEAKER_02: I don't think being bigger for rural Oregon and rural farm,
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SPEAKER_02: family farms.
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SPEAKER_02: And yeah,
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SPEAKER_02: The farm stand,
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SPEAKER_02: farm store bill 4153,
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which ultimately passed pretty easily out of the House and
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pretty easily out of the
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SPEAKER_02: Senate with a few courtesy noses,
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SPEAKER_02: I'd like to call them.
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People like to give courtesy noses,
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but I feel there was more courtesy noses.
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SPEAKER_02: Because they're so afraid of, you know, the banana people.
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So,
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you know,
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and I think that was really where those courtesy notes came
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from.
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SPEAKER_02: But I would love to hear your take on it,
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SPEAKER_02: Representative,
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and kind of like what you think really got this bill to the
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finish line and why
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SPEAKER_02: it's kind of so important for –
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Well,
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first and foremost,
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I just think it's pretty cute that you called all of it easy.
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SPEAKER_00: There was nothing easy in this.
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SPEAKER_00: It was easy for him.
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SPEAKER_03: Easy for him.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: You know,
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it wound up being a really much larger conversation throughout
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the session than it
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SPEAKER_00: should have been,
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SPEAKER_00: given the fact that we started this bill last session.
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SPEAKER_00: And in the conversations last session,
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we didn't get the bill across the finish line because the
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agency came to the table
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SPEAKER_00: and the stakeholders came to the table and they said,
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SPEAKER_00: oh,
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SPEAKER_00: we can do this in rulemaking and we don't need to have this bill.
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SPEAKER_00: And if we just take a quick glimpse backwards,
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we realize that the agency couldn't have messed up their
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rulemaking bigger than
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they did so badly that even the governor came in and put in an
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executive order to
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SPEAKER_00: stop the rulemaking because it was so backwards from from intent.
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SPEAKER_00: And from that moment forward,
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then you had stakeholders that were having the conversation and
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talking about what
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SPEAKER_00: needed to happen.
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And I think that what we wound up with this session was
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probably one of the better
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SPEAKER_00: pieces of legislation that really had input from all sides.
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And I know there were claims that we didn't take input from all
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the stakeholders
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SPEAKER_00: and the friends of
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Family Farms suggested that we didn't take any of their
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language,
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but in fact,
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we did.
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And that is how we wound up with the dash threes in the middle
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of session.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, I thought I muted you.
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SPEAKER_02: You muted in the middle of her sentence.
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SPEAKER_00: If you expect me to go back and get that all again, yours.
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SPEAKER_00: Here's the thing.
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SPEAKER_03: Here's the thing.
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I meant to change my name at the beginning because Brian and I
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are both logged in
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SPEAKER_03: the same Zoom account.
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SPEAKER_03: So we both say Brian.
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SPEAKER_03: So he went to he went to meet Brian and he did he did mute Brian himself.
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SPEAKER_02: No, I just barely muted it.
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SPEAKER_02: So,
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SPEAKER_02: baby,
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I think Senator Gerard had it right in Ways and Means and
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called this the best bill
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SPEAKER_02: of session.
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SPEAKER_00: I adore Gerard and all of his comments on that.
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SPEAKER_00: And you are 100 percent correct.
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SPEAKER_00: He is.
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SPEAKER_00: He did call it the best bill of the session.
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SPEAKER_00: And he did agree.
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SPEAKER_00: I think it was.
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Well,
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everybody who passes a bill calls their bill the best bill of
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session.
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SPEAKER_02: So I think that's a...
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but I think this one was really important.
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And what people don't understand with what this farm stores
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bill really did was it
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SPEAKER_00: codified what we already enjoy in and on the farms,
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which is the ability to have pumpkin patches and the wooden
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shoe tulip festival and
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SPEAKER_00: some of those other big,
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SPEAKER_00: big opportunities in communities.
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SPEAKER_00: You know,
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SPEAKER_00: if we didn't pass this bill,
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the counties were going to be forced to shut some of those
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operations down.
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SPEAKER_00: And people don't realize that domino effect of what was about to happen.
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I really think that one of the things that I was so impressed
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with your bill and
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SPEAKER_02: you and Reagan working this bill is the team you built around this bill.
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SPEAKER_02: And I don't think people realize –
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what it takes to pass a bill that is even remotely
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controversial on any level in
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SPEAKER_02: the amount of teamwork that it takes to pull it together.
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SPEAKER_02: So,
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SPEAKER_02: Reagan,
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SPEAKER_02: I don't know if you have any thoughts,
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because I know you know more about farm stores than you ever
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knew before going into
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SPEAKER_02: the session.
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SPEAKER_02: I mean, you were like...
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SPEAKER_02: Section by section,
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SPEAKER_02: the amount of meetings you had with people like literally line,
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SPEAKER_02: you know,
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SPEAKER_02: four,
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SPEAKER_02: 12,
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SPEAKER_02: you know,
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SPEAKER_02: whatever was it just pretty insane,
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SPEAKER_02: your knowledge of the bill.
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SPEAKER_02: But maybe you can just touch on like,
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SPEAKER_02: who were the partners that really kind of pulled this one together?
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SPEAKER_03: Well, I think it really starts with the idea, right?
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SPEAKER_03: And if the idea,
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SPEAKER_03: anybody can have an idea,
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but if you have an idea that's grounded in what's the reality
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on the ground for
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farm stands and what are they wanting to accomplish that they
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can't do right now?
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And then what's the reality on the ground in terms of
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enforcement by the counties,
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right?
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SPEAKER_03: And how they're dealing with their neighbors, right?
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If you have a farm store,
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are they good neighbors and all that kind of stuff.
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SPEAKER_03: And that really started with
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OPOA,
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the Oregon Property Owners Association,
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and Samantha Baer and Dave Honeycutt.
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SPEAKER_03: They have a really good,
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SPEAKER_03: deep knowledge,
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SPEAKER_03: both of Oregon's land use system,
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SPEAKER_03: which is super critical.
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If you don't understand land use,
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then this bill is going to be a challenge for you.
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And I think a lot of the opposition from this bill really was
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based in not understanding the
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SPEAKER_03: the land use system.
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And I would encourage folks who say they care about the land
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use system to get in
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SPEAKER_03: and understand it.
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SPEAKER_03: Because when you do that, you realize how it's not just designed.
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SPEAKER_03: The idea and the goals are great,
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but the implementation on the ground can really be challenging
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for the things we
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SPEAKER_03: say we're trying to protect,
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SPEAKER_03: farmers and farmland and the rural way of life and all those things.
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SPEAKER_03: So
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SPEAKER_03: Get in and understand those things.
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SPEAKER_03: Sam and Dave do.
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And then adding with that,
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right,
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Jody Hack,
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who's also who's their contract lobbyist.
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And she has a lot of knowledge and relationships and history in
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the building that
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was super critical for us in terms of who to meet with and who
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to talk to about
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various issues and who we could get and how we would be able to
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persuade folks to
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SPEAKER_03: vote for this thing.
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SPEAKER_03: And then also the Associated Oregon Counties,
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SPEAKER_03: or I think they're Association of Oregon Counties.
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SPEAKER_03: I think I keep getting that wrong.
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SPEAKER_03: And so I apologize to them.
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And Brandon Persinger,
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who also has worked for legislators and has also worked for the
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caucus.
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SPEAKER_03: And so he had a really deep background that was there.
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And then Ryan Crabill with our main contact with Farm Bureau
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and having Farm Bureau
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SPEAKER_03: on board was super important.
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SPEAKER_03: They were not supportive of
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of the previous bill and we were able to work with them and
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they were willing to
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work with us and so everybody kind of gave and and took a
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little and that i think
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is what it takes and that's really what this is at the end of
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the day to win
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elections to pass bills it's a coalition building um effort and
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we built a great
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SPEAKER_03: coalition together with representative breeze iverson
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SPEAKER_03: leading and with great support also from the agencies.
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And I think that goes undersold a little bit without support of
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the agencies.
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SPEAKER_03: And I said this throughout the whole process.
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SPEAKER_03: I was like,
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SPEAKER_03: wow,
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is this what it's like when the governor's office is with you
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instead of against
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SPEAKER_01: you?
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SPEAKER_03: It's night and day difference in terms of being able to work with that.
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SPEAKER_03: So when agencies don't want to do stuff
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SPEAKER_03: They have all kinds of tricks they can pull out of their hat.
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SPEAKER_03: And as Republicans,
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we're used to experiencing those big fiscals and all this stuff
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that is sort of
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SPEAKER_03: sometimes can be real,
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but sometimes those are a little bit not as real as they want
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you to believe.
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SPEAKER_03: And we were able to work directly with the agencies.
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SPEAKER_03: We gathered their feedback early.
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SPEAKER_03: That's super important.
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SPEAKER_03: So really thankful for DLCD,
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SPEAKER_03: Department of Ag,
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Jeff Huntington and Bob Livingston and all those folks working
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for the governor.
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SPEAKER_03: And of course,
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SPEAKER_03: the governor herself,
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SPEAKER_03: without her being bought in on the concept,
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SPEAKER_03: we don't get that help and a collaboration with the agencies.
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So all in all,
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a really good team,
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a team that was willing to meet and did meet
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SPEAKER_03: multiple times with the opposition.
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And I would say the biggest mistake that they made was not
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taking us seriously.
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SPEAKER_03: I don't think they took us seriously early on in the process.
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SPEAKER_03: And because they didn't,
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SPEAKER_03: I think they missed out on opportunities to provide,
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SPEAKER_03: you know,
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SPEAKER_03: feedback,
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SPEAKER_03: more feedback.
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And so when they come to the game very late and short sessions,
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a very compressed timeline.
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SPEAKER_03: So when you bring a big gut and stuff amendment to,
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to the work session and you were anywhere near the public
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hearings with your
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SPEAKER_03: feedback,
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SPEAKER_03: I think that's where,
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SPEAKER_03: you know,
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stuff starts to get dropped and they had opportunities and did
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deliver some
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SPEAKER_03: feedback,
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SPEAKER_03: which we incorporated.
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And I think that feedback ultimately really did actually make
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the bill better.
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SPEAKER_03: So I would say,
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SPEAKER_03: This was one where the process was really, really good.
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SPEAKER_03: Don't be afraid of the legislative process.
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SPEAKER_03: Use it.
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SPEAKER_03: Take advantage of it.
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SPEAKER_03: And at the end of the day, you can really get a good outcome.
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SPEAKER_03: And I think 4153A,
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SPEAKER_03: technically,
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SPEAKER_03: because we did amend it one time,
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the farm store bill really is a great product because of all of
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that work and
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SPEAKER_03: collaboration and opposition.
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SPEAKER_03: I think all of that stuff made it better.
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SPEAKER_00: I agree.
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SPEAKER_00: It's a great bill.
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SPEAKER_00: I think we learned a couple of things during this,
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SPEAKER_00: during the,
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SPEAKER_00: the carry of this building while it was going through the session.
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SPEAKER_00: And one of the things that we've talked about in the past,
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SPEAKER_00: and this is process piece versus just the credibility of the,
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SPEAKER_00: of the language of the bill.
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SPEAKER_00: But the,
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SPEAKER_00: the process piece that we learned is,
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SPEAKER_00: you know,
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SPEAKER_00: when we got on the house floor and the Senate floor,
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SPEAKER_00: and we started listening to the back and forth,
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SPEAKER_00: which by the way,
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I think the Senate might've had the longest carry of this bill
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with like an hour
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SPEAKER_00: and a half or something.
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SPEAKER_00: The, the reality is, is that the,
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SPEAKER_00: You know,
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the people that opposed the bill would get up and say thousands
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of people came out
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SPEAKER_00: in protest for the bill or in opposition of the bill.
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But when you look back at the process,
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those folks showed up at the beginning of the bill.
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And that opposition wasn't necessarily for the the what you
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just referenced,
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SPEAKER_00: Reagan,
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SPEAKER_00: which is the engrossed version of the bill,
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SPEAKER_00: which is.
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SPEAKER_00: where we adopted a DASH amendment.
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And that DASH amendment did have some good substantive changes
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in it that made the bill better.
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SPEAKER_00: So it's,
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SPEAKER_00: you know,
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SPEAKER_00: some of its process in this,
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in the legislature and really paying attention to what is the
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piece that's at play
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at the moment and making sure that we're talking to the right
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piece of legislation.
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SPEAKER_00: Further, I'm just going to send some kudos across the aisle.
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I was pleasantly surprised by the engagement from some of my
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Democrat colleagues in
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SPEAKER_00: this bill and what they acknowledged when,
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SPEAKER_00: you know,
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SPEAKER_00: when we go into pieces of legislation that look real partisan.
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SPEAKER_00: It's you just hit the rhetoric on either side.
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And what I experienced out of this particular bill was the
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engagement from from the
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Democrats that understood what it was we were talking about and
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how the the people
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that were opposing it just came up with the same comments again
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and again and
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SPEAKER_00: again.
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And they weren't real in that land use conversation,
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which you kind of spoke to,
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Reagan.
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SPEAKER_00: Land use in Oregon is really complicated.
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Senate Bill 100 from 1973 set a space that we've been trying to
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weave our way
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SPEAKER_00: through ever since.
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To go back and really understand what they put in play in 73
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and how the layers
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SPEAKER_00: affect us today,
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SPEAKER_00: that's why we're here.
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SPEAKER_00: It's why we had to have this build-ish session.
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SPEAKER_00: It's why ag diversifies because we have to with society,
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SPEAKER_00: with whatever the market's demanding,
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we have to diversify our operations to meet what the society
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wants from us today.
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SPEAKER_00: But the land use laws don't diversify with us.
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SPEAKER_00: And when that happens,
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it really it puts some weird kinks in the system and it causes
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Oregon agriculture
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SPEAKER_00: to be behind other states.
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SPEAKER_00: And this bill brought us forward just a little bit.
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SPEAKER_00: And I'm super excited about that.
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SPEAKER_02: That was good.
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SPEAKER_02: And I think you're right about the Democrats side of it,
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because this bill you really had to weave to make it not become
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a partisan bill.
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SPEAKER_02: Bill, you know, this one for the left, this one for the right.
15:10
SPEAKER_02: And it's really you have to kind of manage that process.
15:13
SPEAKER_02: And that's really hard to do, especially in a short session.
15:17
sometimes easier to do in a short session because there's not
15:20
enough time for the
15:21
SPEAKER_02: opposition to just basically try to kill your bill.
15:24
SPEAKER_02: So once it's going on the tracks,
15:26
but you've got to keep it going because there's a few bills
15:29
that fell off the
15:30
SPEAKER_02: tracks that people were like,
15:31
SPEAKER_02: hey,
15:31
SPEAKER_02: what happened to that bill?
15:32
SPEAKER_02: And you're like, gone.
15:33
Well,
15:34
I think the difference is – The state tax,
15:36
what happened to that one?
15:37
SPEAKER_02: Just kind of disappeared.
15:39
SPEAKER_00: But I think the difference is that this bill has been –
15:43
it was perfect for short session because the conversation
15:46
started so long ago.
15:47
It wasn't like we took a brand new,
15:50
really big,
15:50
complex conversation and shoved it into 35 days.
15:53
SPEAKER_00: This has been going on for a year and a half.
15:56
SPEAKER_00: We've been at the table.
15:57
SPEAKER_00: So,
15:58
SPEAKER_00: but to your point,
15:59
I think short session was the right place to get it through
16:01
because if a bill goes
16:03
SPEAKER_00: too long in any one session,
16:06
SPEAKER_00: it just,
16:06
it loses some momentum and it's hard to pick it back up and get
16:09
it moving again.
16:09
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
16:10
Hence the reason we should just not have six month sessions,
16:13
in my opinion.
16:15
SPEAKER_02: Hey,
16:15
SPEAKER_02: Reagan and I,
16:16
we've been on board the train of 200 day sessions or two 90 day
16:21
sessions for a
16:21
SPEAKER_02: while.
16:22
So I think it'd be great to have a little bit more time,
16:26
but not too much time.
16:27
SPEAKER_00: Yeah,
16:28
I think it would be it would be a definite shift in our budget
16:31
conversations
16:32
SPEAKER_00: because there's,
16:33
SPEAKER_00: you know,
16:33
the long sessions are really intended to go after and dig into
16:37
the agency budget.
16:38
SPEAKER_00: So we'd have to really look at that and figure that piece out.
16:41
SPEAKER_00: But hole in two shorter sessions would make way more sense for Oregon.
16:48
SPEAKER_02: Well, good job on the farm bill, farm stand bill.
16:51
SPEAKER_02: You know,
16:53
SPEAKER_02: I've been critical of Farm Bureau in the past on the podcast,
16:58
but I got to say Ryan really came to play on this one and he
17:03
should take a lot of
17:04
kudos and the Farm Bureau for stepping up probably in the face
17:07
of even their own
17:08
SPEAKER_02: their own board,
17:09
some of their own board members that are kind of not for
17:15
allowing farmers to make
17:17
SPEAKER_02: more money,
17:17
SPEAKER_02: which is still always very,
17:20
SPEAKER_02: this doesn't make any sense to me.
17:21
SPEAKER_00: They really are diversified in that board.
17:24
SPEAKER_02: Yeah,
17:24
SPEAKER_02: it's a but,
17:25
SPEAKER_02: you know,
17:26
SPEAKER_02: you have to realize that,
17:27
SPEAKER_02: you know,
17:28
SPEAKER_02: at the end of the day,
17:28
SPEAKER_02: our job,
17:29
even like remember when we were doing the whole hemp stuff with
17:31
Farm Bureau,
17:32
SPEAKER_02: they were there's a lot of challenges around that.
17:35
And it was really because it has to come down to can a farmer
17:39
grow something or
17:40
SPEAKER_02: sell something that helps them stay in business?
17:42
At the end of the day,
17:43
if you really break down,
17:44
why does a Farm Bureau even exist?
17:47
SPEAKER_02: you have to go to that core reason of why you're, you're an association.
17:51
And I think,
17:52
I think,
17:52
you know,
17:53
even the,
17:54
the ranchers association,
17:55
right.
17:56
The cattle ranchers had to have that kind of come to Jesus
17:59
discussion with the wolf
18:01
SPEAKER_02: funding to say,
18:01
SPEAKER_02: cause they're,
18:03
SPEAKER_00: they're,
18:03
SPEAKER_02: they're kind of against more taxes,
18:06
SPEAKER_02: but you have to have,
18:09
dedicated funding for their wolf,
18:11
you know,
18:11
project or it's just going to die.
18:13
SPEAKER_02: So, I mean, granted, we'd rather just shoot wolves.
18:15
SPEAKER_02: Don't get me wrong.
18:16
SPEAKER_02: But I think I think it goes back.
18:18
SPEAKER_00: You have to diversify with the times.
18:20
And,
18:21
you know,
18:21
I've always been an advocate that Oregon was built out of ag.
18:25
SPEAKER_00: The foundation of the roots of Oregon,
18:27
SPEAKER_00: they're very firmly set and have grown out of agriculture.
18:31
We are one of the most diverse states for the different sectors
18:36
of ag that we produce.
18:37
And I think what you're talking about with Farm Bureau is it's
18:41
an example of that
18:42
SPEAKER_00: because they have the
18:44
They have the big farmers that have larger plots of land that
18:49
are diverse in what
18:50
SPEAKER_00: they might grow.
18:50
SPEAKER_00: But then we've also got the smaller farmers that,
18:53
SPEAKER_00: you know,
18:54
SPEAKER_00: they're still working their 20 acres to 80 acres.
18:57
SPEAKER_00: And you know what?
18:58
SPEAKER_00: Sometimes you can make that work.
18:59
SPEAKER_00: And if you've got Christmas trees on that, you don't need as much land.
19:03
SPEAKER_00: But as we've experienced,
19:04
SPEAKER_00: honey,
19:04
SPEAKER_00: if we've got cows,
19:05
we need lots of land and cows that can move really fast with
19:09
really wide mouths to
19:11
SPEAKER_00: find the forage.
19:13
The difference is real and we can't have statutes and county
19:20
ordinances that are so
19:22
SPEAKER_00: cookie cutter that people can't diversify underneath of that.
19:25
That's the biggest consideration for Oregon A.
19:28
We've got to have diversification.
19:30
SPEAKER_03: That's the thing about this short session that I really appreciated.
19:33
And I feel like,
19:33
Brian,
19:33
that's why we got a lot of that stuff done that you were
19:36
talking about.
19:37
SPEAKER_03: All these kind of,
19:38
SPEAKER_03: not the biggest issues,
19:39
but all these medium-sized problems that have gone two or three
19:43
sessions and
19:43
SPEAKER_03: haven't been solved is we finally got to a place...
19:47
SPEAKER_03: And I think for different legislators, it was for different reasons.
19:51
SPEAKER_03: But at the end of the day,
19:51
SPEAKER_03: we got to a place where everyone's like,
19:53
SPEAKER_03: OK,
19:54
SPEAKER_03: yes,
19:54
we all have this idea in our minds of what's the ideal Oregon
19:57
that we picture that
19:59
SPEAKER_03: we want.
19:59
SPEAKER_03: But at the end of the day,
20:01
SPEAKER_03: when you're writing a bill and when you're voting,
20:03
SPEAKER_03: you have to look at what's reality on the ground.
20:05
SPEAKER_03: What do things look like today?
20:07
SPEAKER_03: And let's deal with reality.
20:09
SPEAKER_03: All the way from wolf funding to rec liability to all that stuff.
20:11
SPEAKER_03: People were like, the reality is this stuff is broken.
20:14
SPEAKER_03: And yes,
20:16
SPEAKER_03: I heard all the Republicans,
20:17
SPEAKER_03: you know,
20:18
and a lot of them voted no just because of the funding
20:23
disparity between rural and
20:24
SPEAKER_03: urban.
20:25
SPEAKER_03: But at the end of the day, there also had to be wolf funding.
20:27
And there were a lot of Republicans that weren't going to stand
20:30
in the way of
20:31
SPEAKER_03: getting that wolf funding done,
20:32
SPEAKER_03: even if the avenue wasn't ideal.
20:34
Same thing with Democrats on rec liability where they're like,
20:37
well,
20:37
it would be great.
20:38
If we could allow the trial lawyers to sue anybody,
20:41
anytime,
20:42
anywhere for anything.
20:43
SPEAKER_03: But we can't do that because then a lot of folks can't operate.
20:48
SPEAKER_03: So what's the best that we can do to try to solve this problem?
20:51
SPEAKER_03: And that's what they did.
20:53
SPEAKER_03: And so you have this space.
20:54
SPEAKER_00: It's not just to operate,
20:54
SPEAKER_00: Reagan,
20:55
SPEAKER_00: but it's also,
20:55
SPEAKER_00: I mean,
20:56
think about Oregonians that like Oregon because they like to be
20:59
outside and they
21:00
SPEAKER_00: like to go do things.
21:01
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
21:03
SPEAKER_00: wreck liability issue.
21:04
SPEAKER_00: I mean,
21:04
SPEAKER_00: it doesn't just keep the operators from operating,
21:07
but it keeps people from getting out on the ground and enjoying
21:10
the ground,
21:11
SPEAKER_00: the hiking,
21:12
SPEAKER_00: the camping,
21:12
SPEAKER_00: all the things.
21:13
SPEAKER_00: Because once the first lawsuit goes out, all those campgrounds shut down.
21:18
SPEAKER_00: All the ability to get out and go for a hike shuts down.
21:21
And I just don't think people really understood what that
21:24
overarching and domino
21:25
SPEAKER_00: effect was going to be for Oregon.
21:27
SPEAKER_02: And then we start losing our dominance as a tourism state.
21:31
SPEAKER_02: And,
21:31
SPEAKER_02: you know,
21:32
then our wolf funding goes to zero and our cows are gone
21:34
because the wolves just
21:35
SPEAKER_02: come and eat our cows.
21:36
SPEAKER_02: What a cycle.
21:39
SPEAKER_02: No, it was a good – all in all, I think you're right.
21:42
SPEAKER_02: Actually,
21:42
there was a lot of medium-sized legislation that the stuff that
21:46
kind of had a good
21:47
SPEAKER_02: group of people working on it,
21:50
SPEAKER_02: that stuff all kind of just went through.
21:53
SPEAKER_02: And the stuff that was controversial just kind of fell off.
21:56
SPEAKER_02: And really,
21:57
SPEAKER_02: I think at the end of the day,
21:58
SPEAKER_02: the only thing that probably was political is just the gas tax.
22:02
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
22:02
SPEAKER_00: I think you call them medium sized issues.
22:05
SPEAKER_00: And Reagan, I appreciate that.
22:06
But the reality is,
22:08
is they're medium sized issues because,
22:10
again,
22:10
none of them were brand new.
22:11
SPEAKER_00: We've been working on them for one or two legislative cycles.
22:15
SPEAKER_00: And probably if we're real about the way that process works,
22:19
SPEAKER_00: once you introduce something and I and I was
22:22
SPEAKER_00: You guys will be proud of me.
22:23
I was listening to your podcast the other day and I was
22:26
listening to Rep Evans go
22:27
SPEAKER_00: on about his legislation and how he starts,
22:30
SPEAKER_00: you know,
22:30
SPEAKER_00: 500 bills so that he can.
22:33
test the temperature of the conversation basically to figure
22:37
out which subject is
22:38
SPEAKER_00: going to move forward.
22:39
SPEAKER_00: But it kind of brings me back to what we're talking about right now,
22:42
SPEAKER_00: which is you get these,
22:43
SPEAKER_00: quote,
22:44
SPEAKER_00: medium-sized pieces of legislation.
22:46
SPEAKER_00: And it's not that it's a medium-sized issue.
22:49
SPEAKER_00: It's a big issue.
22:50
SPEAKER_00: But it feels medium-sized because we started it two sessions ago.
22:54
And we've been ferreting out all of the extreme sides and we've
22:59
got it boiled down
23:00
SPEAKER_00: to a core piece of legislation that makes sense for Oregon.
23:03
SPEAKER_00: And that's when I think Oregonians win.
23:05
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's true.
23:06
SPEAKER_01: Well, Reagan and I, I think we single-handedly helped pass Rep.
23:09
SPEAKER_01: Evans that bill, I think, because of the pot.
23:12
SPEAKER_01: Many people are saying.
23:13
SPEAKER_01: Many people are saying.
23:14
It wasn't scheduled before the episode,
23:17
and then after the episode,
23:18
it was scheduled.
23:19
SPEAKER_03: I mean, I'm kind of with Reagan on this one.
23:23
SPEAKER_03: I feel like.
23:23
SPEAKER_00: You make me laugh.
23:25
SPEAKER_03: We say causation.
23:26
SPEAKER_03: Other people say correlation.
23:27
SPEAKER_03: No one's to know.
23:29
SPEAKER_03: No one's to know.
23:33
SPEAKER_00: You guys take it and own it.
23:34
SPEAKER_02: Take the big one.
23:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we will take it and own it because we don't take much or get much.
23:41
SPEAKER_02: So we'll take what we can.
23:42
I think that's also why farm stores felt huge is because it's
23:46
just hard to pass a bill.
23:48
and you were talking about working with democrats um that's a
23:51
requirement actually
23:52
you're required to get democratic votes and usually it has to
23:55
be it can't just be a
23:56
handful you can't have all the republicans and a handful of
23:59
democrats usually there
24:00
has to be some level of critical mass of democrats either
24:04
supporting your bill or
24:07
uh who under their breath are resigned to the fact that it does
24:09
need to pass even
24:10
if they hate it very much and you know if there was a balance
24:12
to be struck on each
24:14
SPEAKER_03: of these issues with that um
24:16
So I think we'll talk more about kind of these issues and sort
24:19
of unpack short
24:20
SPEAKER_03: session as we go along.
24:21
We're going to have Sam and Dave on to really get into the
24:24
details on farm stores.
24:25
SPEAKER_03: We're going to I think we I've I've gotten text.
24:28
SPEAKER_03: I don't know if you have about rec liability and that stuff.
24:31
SPEAKER_03: So we might be able to unpack that.
24:33
SPEAKER_03: At some point.
24:35
SPEAKER_03: I don't know what you guys did in the Senate.
24:36
SPEAKER_03: I'm not sure.
24:37
SPEAKER_03: The House was really working on a lot of stuff and accomplishing a lot.
24:41
SPEAKER_03: The Senate was taking forever to do stuff, Brian.
24:44
SPEAKER_03: So you guys are a little slow.
24:46
SPEAKER_03: I don't know if you guys got as much done as we got done.
24:49
SPEAKER_03: We were done waiting for the House to open their doors.
24:51
SPEAKER_02: Oh, brother.
24:52
SPEAKER_02: You waited an hour.
24:53
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
24:55
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it was pretty interesting how it ended.
24:58
SPEAKER_02: I was actually happy that it ended at 4.30 on a Friday.
25:00
Like,
25:01
I don't know how many times we're there until freaking 10 or 11
25:04
o'clock at night.
25:05
SPEAKER_02: Your long session was 11.45.
25:07
SPEAKER_02: I mean, that was insane waiting for paperwork.
25:09
SPEAKER_02: So it was like it ended slow and then it ended all of a sudden.
25:13
SPEAKER_02: It was very,
25:14
SPEAKER_02: very interesting day on Friday,
25:16
but the best part of the end of the session was and I was just
25:21
the old school side
25:22
SPEAKER_00: of me.
25:22
I was so excited when both chamber doors open and it wasn't
25:27
waving across the
25:28
SPEAKER_00: rotunda at each other,
25:30
SPEAKER_00: but just like in the old days.
25:32
SPEAKER_00: And quote, old days was only six short years ago.
25:34
But that capital has been closed down for so long between COVID
25:37
and remodel.
25:39
This was the first time in at least five years that as both
25:43
Senate chamber and the
25:45
SPEAKER_00: House chamber sine died,
25:47
the doors opened and the members came down the steps and met
25:51
down at the rotunda,
25:52
SPEAKER_00: shook hands,
25:53
SPEAKER_00: hugged,
25:53
SPEAKER_00: were excited about the things we got done.
25:55
SPEAKER_00: That was so rewarding to my soul.
25:58
SPEAKER_00: It was fabulous.
25:59
SPEAKER_03: I think the open capital actually made this a better session,
26:02
SPEAKER_03: having all that space,
26:04
SPEAKER_03: getting that,
26:04
SPEAKER_03: that brought it back.
26:05
SPEAKER_03: Cause you know,
26:05
SPEAKER_03: before,
26:06
SPEAKER_03: like you said,
26:06
SPEAKER_03: there was all this junk in the middle and,
26:09
SPEAKER_03: you know,
26:10
SPEAKER_03: we kind of opened the doors and we'd wave and then snipe at each other.
26:12
SPEAKER_03: You know, that's, that was the session.
26:14
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
26:14
In 25 and 23,
26:15
a lot of that was just inner chamber and cross-party fighting.
26:19
SPEAKER_03: And I think that having all those spaces,
26:22
SPEAKER_03: having the lounge reopen for legislators to go in and be like,
26:25
SPEAKER_03: hey,
26:25
SPEAKER_03: have you heard about my bill?
26:26
SPEAKER_03: It's actually in your committee.
26:28
SPEAKER_03: Or, hey, this is coming to you.
26:29
SPEAKER_03: Would you take a look at it?
26:30
SPEAKER_03: Those conversations, there was space for all that stuff to breathe.
26:34
SPEAKER_03: There was time and opportunity for people to just get together.
26:39
SPEAKER_03: And that space was what I think led to what I felt like
26:43
SPEAKER_03: And what I was telling people was the very last day of session had,
26:46
SPEAKER_03: you know,
26:46
SPEAKER_03: a very good what they call vibes,
26:48
SPEAKER_03: what the kids call vibes.
26:49
SPEAKER_03: Right.
26:50
SPEAKER_03: There was just good vibes.
26:51
SPEAKER_03: And that,
26:51
SPEAKER_03: I think,
26:52
propelled a lot of stuff that could have been big battles right
26:55
there on the final
26:56
SPEAKER_03: day.
26:56
And we've had short sessions that have ended and long sessions
26:59
that have ended on bad notes.
27:01
SPEAKER_03: And this one ended on, I think, for most people, very positive notes.
27:05
SPEAKER_03: And I think that that helped.
27:08
not just farm stores,
27:09
but a lot of stuff just really push over the finish line.
27:12
SPEAKER_03: And if it were in a negative environment,
27:15
SPEAKER_03: it might have been much closer or some of that stuff could have died.
27:19
SPEAKER_03: And I think that that's something you can't control.
27:21
SPEAKER_03: You don't know what your last day of session is like,
27:23
which is why everyone tries to avoid having their stuff stuck
27:26
to the last day.
27:27
SPEAKER_02: I agree.
27:29
SPEAKER_02: Well, we should let the representative go so she can go do some work.
27:33
SPEAKER_00: No, I'm taking too much of your life.
27:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
27:35
jeez rude uh thank you guys for letting me come and pontificate
27:41
on farm stores i'm
27:42
excited to go to the pumpkin patch this coming fall i hope you
27:45
guys will enjoy the
27:45
tulip festival and all the fun things that get to continue
27:49
because of that bill we
27:51
SPEAKER_02: will thank you hey reagan before we go i think we're gonna
27:58
I want to kind of just touch on what I sent you this morning on
28:02
the DHM polling.
28:04
And I because I think there's some interesting stuff on on
28:08
where the state may be
28:09
SPEAKER_02: moving with with what we care about,
28:12
SPEAKER_02: because I think this will be as we get into campaigns.
28:15
SPEAKER_02: And of course, this is Monday, March 9th.
28:17
SPEAKER_02: So we're we'll wait to do our primary preview.
28:23
SPEAKER_02: the big primary preview show.
28:25
SPEAKER_02: We'll wait to do that until after filing deadline.
28:27
SPEAKER_02: Cause I would imagine there's going to be, you know, things changing.
28:30
SPEAKER_02: Um,
28:31
SPEAKER_02: but I thought for,
28:33
SPEAKER_02: unless you had anything else,
28:34
SPEAKER_02: I was just going to touch on this,
28:35
SPEAKER_02: uh,
28:37
SPEAKER_02: deal with DHM,
28:38
SPEAKER_02: good friend of the pod,
28:39
SPEAKER_02: obviously.
28:40
SPEAKER_01: So,
28:41
SPEAKER_01: um,
28:42
SPEAKER_02: they do a blog and I was really,
28:43
they did a year ago where they said that what's your number one
28:47
issue is like 43%
28:51
SPEAKER_02: and 21% compared to 21% today.
28:55
SPEAKER_02: So that's really cut in half.
28:57
SPEAKER_02: And I think –
28:58
SPEAKER_02: And then housing affordability was up there and drugs and mental health.
29:03
Everything was like drugs and housing affordability and
29:07
homelessness like a year ago in 25.
29:09
SPEAKER_02: So now homelessness is still there.
29:13
But what's really moved up is housing affordability has gone
29:18
off the cliff.
29:20
And what's really moved up is poor leadership,
29:24
taxes and tariffs,
29:25
and Democrats –
29:27
SPEAKER_02: And Tina Koteck.
29:29
I really found it very interesting that leadership and
29:33
everything is really in
29:35
SPEAKER_02: liberal,
29:35
SPEAKER_02: like liberalism has kind of moved up.
29:38
So I'm not sure if Donald Trump will unravel all of this for us
29:45
with the Irish war
29:46
SPEAKER_02: and everything going on.
29:48
But it really feels like the lack of leadership in the state
29:53
and just the poor attention to –
29:57
details and making things happen is really kind of starting to
30:00
bubble up into people's minds.
30:02
SPEAKER_02: Like they're kind of just getting pissed at the status quo.
30:05
That's what I kind of take away from where the issues are
30:09
moving in my mind.
30:11
And I think also a lot of people are just getting used to
30:13
seeing shit on the
30:14
SPEAKER_02: streets in Portland.
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SPEAKER_02: That's the other thing with the homeless stuff.
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SPEAKER_02: I would say.
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And so the question is,
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what do you think is the most important problem facing Oregon
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today?
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SPEAKER_03: So that is how it's phrased.
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SPEAKER_03: And in 2025, it was 43% homelessness and 16% housing affordability.
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SPEAKER_03: Those two just dominated.
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And then he has highlighted here now in 2026,
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housing affordability has dropped to 8 percent.
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SPEAKER_03: So 50 percent drop in that being people's top issue.
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SPEAKER_03: And I don't know.
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SPEAKER_03: I don't think that's because we just went out there and solved it.
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SPEAKER_03: I don't think housing is affordable.
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SPEAKER_03: I think it's just other stuff has now kind of taken its place.
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SPEAKER_03: Right.
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SPEAKER_03: Homelessness is also dropped by half.
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SPEAKER_03: And like you said, poor leadership slash government management.
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SPEAKER_03: Right.
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SPEAKER_03: Right.
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SPEAKER_03: Or I think we might be at four years now, right?
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SPEAKER_03: And Democrats are going to say,
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SPEAKER_03: wow,
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SPEAKER_03: look at these Republicans and this federal government they're running.
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SPEAKER_03: And it's chaotic and out of control and all that stuff, right?
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SPEAKER_03: Then you have an interesting one, which is taxes and tariffs.
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SPEAKER_03: And again, Democrats are going to focus on tariffs.
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SPEAKER_03: Republicans are going to focus on taxes, right?
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SPEAKER_03: And so you have this...
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yin and yang here um most people i would guess don't see all
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these issues the same
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way and that's the thing with polling when you look at this
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stuff everyone goes oh
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everyone agrees we need lower taxes right i was like well taxes
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slash tariffs is
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probably about half republicans half democrats and they care
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about different stuff
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so you can't just assume that everyone agrees with you when you
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look at these and i
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think a lot of people who um maybe either haven't spent a lot
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of time in politics
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SPEAKER_03: or
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SPEAKER_03: have a simple view or easy seat.
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SPEAKER_03: They think all these things are people agree with them.
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SPEAKER_03: Well, you have to kind of parse down into the cross tabs.
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So anyway,
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we'll want to look at the cross tabs here and have John on to
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talk more about this.
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SPEAKER_03: And then that 12% Democrats, Tina Kotech, two liberals.
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SPEAKER_03: So you have 12% who...
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SPEAKER_03: are definitely on our side and are probably already with us.
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And I'm glad that they're paying attention and bringing those
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issues to the forefront.
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SPEAKER_03: But then it is, can we capitalize?
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SPEAKER_03: And then 10% cost of living.
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SPEAKER_03: And again, Republicans are going to focus on cost of government.
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Democrats are going to focus on the harm they say Republicans
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have done to the economy.
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SPEAKER_03: So it'll be really
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SPEAKER_03: interesting to see how these play out.
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SPEAKER_03: This issue set doesn't look too bad for us though, Brian.
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SPEAKER_03: I would say if these are the top issues,
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I would be okay and ready to campaign and put taxes and
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government mismanagement
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SPEAKER_03: and Democrats and homelessness at the top of the list.
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SPEAKER_03: I think those work for us here in Oregon.
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They don't necessarily work if you go to the federal level as
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well for Republicans,
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SPEAKER_03: but state level,
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SPEAKER_03: I like this issue set.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm with you.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm liking where we have to keep
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SPEAKER_02: Usually international affairs don't usually flow into state politics,
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so we don't necessarily have to worry about wars and stuff
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unless it escalates,
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SPEAKER_02: right?
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I mean that could be a big problem for us,
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but I think we're probably good there.
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But I see that the escalation of that issue of caring about
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leadership and
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SPEAKER_02: liberalism now and just –
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I think what we missed the boat on – and we can talk more about
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this later when we
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SPEAKER_02: talk about campaigning.
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But I think one of the issues that we really missed the boat on
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was the immigration issue.
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I think most Republic – or most Oregonians are on our side in
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regards to getting
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SPEAKER_02: illegal aliens out of our country,
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especially the criminals and especially the ones that are
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basically just here in
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SPEAKER_02: America taking a free ride.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: you know, getting free health care and free lunch and free everything.
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SPEAKER_02: And they're not really contributing to society.
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And I think that we're kind of missing that issue as a really
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strong wedge issue
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SPEAKER_02: between us and Democrats.
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SPEAKER_02: And maybe maybe we'll see that change.
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SPEAKER_02: But more to come as we talk about campaign stuff.
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SPEAKER_02: That's for sure.
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SPEAKER_03: It's going to be a fun campaign season,
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SPEAKER_03: Brian,
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SPEAKER_03: and looking forward to breaking down the candidates.
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SPEAKER_03: And originally I was going to go to filing day,
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but turns out that we have an appointment for a certain
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dog-related operation on
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SPEAKER_03: Tuesday.
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SPEAKER_03: And so I am not going to be – I won't be there,
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SPEAKER_03: but I'll be with you in spirit,
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and we will certainly break down any filing day surprises and
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other related news as
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SPEAKER_03: we go forward.
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SPEAKER_03: That should be fun.
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SPEAKER_03: All right.
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SPEAKER_03: We'll talk soon.
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SPEAKER_02: See ya.
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SPEAKER_00: We're dancing back and forth on the Senate floor.
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SPEAKER_00: Moving bills through.
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SPEAKER_00: Trading words to find the perfect beat.
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SPEAKER_00: Committee hearings all day long.
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SPEAKER_00: Till we finally sing the same song.
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SPEAKER_00: Amendments flying high.
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SPEAKER_00: Watch them pass on by.
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SPEAKER_00: Gotta give and try.
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SPEAKER_00: Make this bill fly.