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Ep. 3 : Cy Young Reliever, Card Show Strategies, Deadline Fades · Cards & Categories

• 0:17
  Welcome everybody to the third episode of Cards and Categories. This is Mike cool
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  Art here from Rasball, and I'm joined once again and as always by Jeremy
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  Breuer, also from Rasball. Jeremy, how are you doing today? I'm
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  doing just fantastic. How about yourself? I'm doing great. It's been quite
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  the crazy day of baseball as we record here on Wednesday, kind of been
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  an afternoon of ups and downs. Saw a couple of Nolan Gorman homers,
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  a couple of trade rumors and trades go down. A'med Rosario just went to
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  the Dodgers before this recording happened, And it's been reported that Otani is off
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  the block, so I kind of thought that Arnie Moreno might pull him back,
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  and now he's a actually off the block. So I guess I don't
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  think we should be too surprised by this one, because that was pretty much,
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  you know, calling the calling the season. If if they sent Otani
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  elsewhere or might be calling it a few few seasons, that fan base is
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  going to revolt if they if they did anything there. Yeah, and especially
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  from the financial applications, I just never saw it happening. Um, if
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  you do want to check out something really cool you should listen to. Effectively,
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  Wild put out a like a fake Otani trade like podcast where they had
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  a bunch of different writers played the roles of the different gms and calling Ben
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  Clements who played Perimonesian. And what they did is they liked did all these
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  recordings and voicemails to do trade offers. It's uh, it's a fun episode.
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  You should check it out. And yeah, else too, I also
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  check that out. I know. I saw an article over I think it
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  will be dot Com the other day about you know, ten proposals for Otani
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  and I read through every single one. I'm like, I would reject every
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  single one of these. Like I'm like this point, if I'm like in
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  the five top one hundred prospects, I don't think there's a deal to be
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  added. So it's just not that economics weren't there. Yeah, And I
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  mean I think lots of people are probably seeing the same people on those lists
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  for those Otani trades, which I mean can all be scrapped now. I
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  guess with the Diamondbacks and especially just any of those other runners, some people
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  are trying to put them into the reds, which would be a little far
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  fetched in Cincinnati. But here's a this is some good podcast segway right here.
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  The Baltimore Orioles were one of those people that were or one of those
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  teams that were rewarded to beginning Otani. And now that they're in first place,
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  I was thinking, what about Felix Bautista for the al Si Young?
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  I know it sounds bananas. I never thought of reliever would win another Si
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  Young? Um, I'm not is Ganya maybe the last one too? I
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  think I wouldna say, Eric Ganya. I think it was the last one
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  to pull that off. And that's that's I'm not gonna guess some of the
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  years that's been, it's been, that's been a while. Early. Yes,
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  and so Philix Bautista for Cy Young is a very interesting case. Make
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  make your case. I want to hear it. Okay, Well, the
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  first thing is you need to do is go to fangraphs, sort the al
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  pictures by war, get that leaderboard and you'll be like, WHOA like Felix
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  Bautisa, he's not even on this. What a what a waste, what
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  a joke. But with then what you need to do is flip off qualified
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  innings and if you flip off qualified innings, I just dropped it to twenty.
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  You can drop it to whatever makes Bautista qualify. He's currently at forty
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  nine innings. He then ranks ninth in the al in war as a reliever
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  right now in forty nine innings with two point five warm. Yeah, here's
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  the nine or here's the eight dudes in front of him. He's ninth,
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  and the eight dudes are who I would actually consider more of the front runners
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  right now, Kevin Gaussman, fran Bervaldez, Sonny Gray, Zach Eflin,
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  Nathan Eovaldi, Garrett Cole, George Kirby, Pablo Lopez. Then right there
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  Felix Bautista, who is at two point seven two point five two point seven
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  is Papo Lopez, and that's just behind Gaussman at three point eight leading the
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  board. But the stats for Felix Bautissa are absolutely insane as seventeen point six
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  K nine. He's got twenty eight saves, five five wins all and forty
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  nine innings along with a point nine two RA one point four five fifth.
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  I mean, why not, like if there was gonna be a season that
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  was a reliever season that won as young, this would be it. I
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  mean, the Saves are maybe a little bit low, but seventeen and a
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  half K nine and no one else is really separating themselves from the pack.
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  I mean, it's gonna just take a little slip from Framber or Kevin Gaussman,
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  and I don't see why Felix Bautisa shouldn't get it if the Orioles win
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  the East. Yeah, I think that's actually what probably comes down to is
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  think that he has to make an impact at the right time, like he
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  uh, you know the Orioles that they're getting notoriety because they are, they're
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  playing really well, got a lot of young, exciting guys coming up.
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  I think that he needs had like a signature moment of something, which is
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  completely given what everything every talks about anymore about stats and what you're trying to
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  accomplish. But you know, even just the last few days, he's just
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  gone crazy as far as you know, he's he's pitches like four last five
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  days, Uh, basically shut everybody down. I think they could have used
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  him the last night too, because I think they blew the lead when he
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  was actually trying to get some rest. But I think if he goes out
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  late in the season and really clinches a few you know, good games against
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  you know, competitive teams or you know, actually you know, clinches a
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  you know the division. Uh and like you know, strikes out the side
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  of I don't facing the yank he's and strikes out the side. I don't
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  know what the schedule. I don't look at the schedule, but I think
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  he is one of those signature moments like that's gonna be like that something that
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  could push him over the top. Does Is it gonna happen? I don't
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  think so. I just I don't think that anybody's gonna sign up with that
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  because even with Ganya, he had to he had to pull down on a
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  record of a number of saves when when he did that, which was just
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  crazy. If there's not the saves with the number of Indians secutive saves,
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  I think is what it was. Yeah, so, um, I don't
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  know who if it's not aboutis to the question is who is it? Because
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  there's it's a pretty clouded, crowded leaderboard as as you mentioned. Yeah,
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  I mean I think Gassman would beat my vote right now. But the Blue
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  Jays, if they can't get it going and like I said, the Orioles
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  winning the East is a lot of fun right now, and they're a really
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  just dynamic team. I enjoyed putting them on. I love watching the Orange
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  Black flow, and I mean, I think that might really help Bautista's case,
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  especially when you do consider I mean, I guess Kyle Gibson now that
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  I'm looking at this leaderboard is fifteenth in four on this pitching leaderboard, but
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  they're there's really nobody else. Oh now they look again, Kyle Bradish,
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  I guess is actually at twentieth. But Felix Bautista like is the Orioles pitching
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  staff. And so it's kind of crazy that like they're designed with like the
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  workhorse at the back, because I think he sets the tone the way that
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  like a number one starter would. Yeah, I tend to agree, and
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  that's actually you're you're right. It's almost crazy to see what they've done with
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  the pitching that they have not had uh in in that rotation. So I
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  mean, if if i'm if I'm picking my probably top two at this point
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  is Nathan Evaldi out of out of Texas or Shane McClanahan for the Raise.
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  I think those two are the ones that I would be looking at it.
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  But it's a tight race. I think McClanahan, you know, he got
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  hurt and so he needs to finish strong and finish healthy. Uh. Vivaldi,
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  he's he's tried tailed off a little recently, but I think if he
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  finishes strong, he's got a good shot as well. But that that's anybody's
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  race in which that's probably to Batista's best opportunity is the reals split in votes.
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  He just needs a little cohort to go after him and give him a
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  chance. So top three, I think, I think that's a good bet.
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  Is it gonna win it? It'd be fun. Let's let's see that
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  happen. Yeah. I mean, I'm guessing you'll probably get pretty good hods
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  on it. So I'm not endorsing gambling, but those that do go for
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  it. The other thing I wanted to follow up on was actually a correction
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  from last week. I have a correction to issue. I stated that the
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  tops Chrome Taco fractors were gonna be inserts as like, um, I don't
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  know the way that like a Future Stars insert or just a totally different side
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  set of Tops Chrome. I was mistaken. There are actually parallels. They
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  should have been in my rundown of the rainbow of all those colors. I
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  know, I heard some good feedback on people really enjoying hearing all those parallels
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  and the deluge just kind of washing over them. But taco fractors are in
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  that they're of five. There's been a couple of them posted on eBay.
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  I'll add a link to the show notes and to the description so that you
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  can see them. And they look absolutely stupid. Absolutely they're just prison refractors
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  with tacos like imbedded on them. Like I think I enjoy some real stupid
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  stuff and cards, Like I will go on the record that there are lots
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  of stupid cards that I really enjoy from, like just weird looking dudes with
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  crazy mustaches, weird color combinations, weird poses. But I don't think I
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  can get on board with the taco fractor, Like what a total waste.
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  Like I think it'd be exciting to pull one, because it's obviously it's an
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  odd five. You can sell it for some good money, but like what
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  a bummer, Like what a bummer if you pulled like the Corp and Carol
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  taco fractor when you could have been to the corp and Carol Red refractor of
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  five that would have been a color match. Like oh, okay, so
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  I don't want you to look unless you already have. There's only one that
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  has sold so far on eBay. I didn't look up Massa Taka Yoshida it
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  is rookie out of five because they're all out of five and by the way,
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  they are hideous. I fully agree with you. How much do you
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  think the the Yoshida taco fractor sold for? Okay, well, I will
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  admit that before this I did see. The one that I was looking at
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  was the William Contre's taco fractor, and I think it was like one hundred
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  and fifty bucks. I bet the Yoshida win for eight hundred. Man,
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  you need you need to take it into a job here. Eight fifty Oh
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  that was you were right on. I'm impressed, Like im whoa, I
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  was not expecting to be that close. Yeah I would. I would have
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  probably said like three hundred. So I think the card segments years tonight,
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  not mine. So you you've redeemed yourself on the taco fractors, I think
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  at this point. So yeah, um, but I'm with you. Please
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  go check the taco factors. So I'm I would gladly pull one. I'm
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  gonna sell it immediately because because I cannot and good conscience have something like that
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  in the collection. Okay, actually, now that I put eyes on this
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  Yoshida one, I might take it back. The Yoshida taco factor does look
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  cool. It has tacos on it. The purple in the background too,
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  with like the the racing like flag. Oh man, just just wait twenty
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  four tops chrome burrito vickers. I want a fall offful fractor, full fractor,
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  wabble f fractor. Yeah, you just gonna you put fractor after any
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  food. Yeh, it's it's gonna it's gonna sell. Yeah. This,
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  yeah, this would be good to trace football of what would be the coolest
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  fractor I have? So I have this thing that I love asking people of,
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  like um for going to baseball games. I've realized that you can take
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  a gallon on zip black bag of whatever you want into the ballpark as long
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  as it's food. And so this kind of caught caught fire on White Socks
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  Twitter at the beginning of the season because people were just like stuffing snack bags
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  full and taking them in and I don't know if you've ever seen like the
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  memes of on baseball Twitter, especially it happened in Baltimore. People would bring
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  in zip black bags a spaghetti and you'd see pictures of people eating zip black
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  bags of spaghetti at these baloral games. But the most unhinged thing that you
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  could take to a baseball game in a zip black gallon bag. Like I
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  think my favorites are warm clam chowder on like a day like it was today
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  in Chicago where it's like ninety three degrees with one hundred and forty percent humanity,
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  just like it's the grossest hot day, or like one of those Midwestern
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  jello salad jello salads, salads that like every family gathering has them that they're
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  like for some reason, literally next to the green leaf salad, and it's
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  like jello, whipped cream, marshmallows, some nuts, and maybe like some
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  canned fruit and extra sugar, probably too that it is a black gag.
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  The first thing that came to mind was chili, a big old bag of
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  chili, and even better if you brought in like a bag of hot dogs
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  too, and then like you're making chili dogs like in the bringa bring a
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  bag of buns, bring back of dogs, bring a bag of chili.
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  Just go through the stands. Five bucks on chili dog. It feels like
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  that could work a guaranteed great field if you ask me. Yeah, so
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  if you've got a if you've got a good one, because I'm always looking
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  for a good one. UM, you can tweet at us cards Categories while
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  Twitter still exists or x or whatever it is. UM, but we do
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  have an email address too, It's UH cards categories at gmail dot com,
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  so you can sense to us there or on the on the comments of this
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  post on rasball UM. I will also follow up. But I'd love to
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  see some good suggestions for the zip box. And we stooped low already so
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  that you can't. The suggestion box is wide open. Consider we just talked
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  about what you can bring in a gallon size bag to a White Sox game.
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  So yeah, I want to see somebody like, really, somebody's got
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  to push the limit beyond the spaghetti. Spaghetti you also was a good starter.
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  It's a good starter. It's it's it's quality. Uh, as long
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  as you brought the sport with you to eat it. Yeah, So I
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  think speaking of other odd ball things. I'm getting pretty good at this podcast.
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  Segwaging, segwaying, look at me, um, other odd things.
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  The triple play in Atlanta last night, I think we should talk about it
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  because it was the first one of that type of triple play in one hundred
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  and thirty nine years, back before al and I'll even existed. Um,
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  And I think it's especially hitting a real kind of It's just a nice spot
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  to hit with everybody's baseball hearts right now is we're all trying to do immaculate
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  grids and try to put in like dead ball era guys that played for the
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  Pirates and A's in the late eighteen hundreds into our grids like this hasn't happened
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  since then, you know. Um, yep, I'll let you describe it
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  because I know that, like it was really what you were excited about for
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  this week. Yeah, I right there with you, And I'm I'm not
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  fully got on the amculate grid yet myself, but I think I have some
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  napple joy context to bring it there, so I might gut, I might
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  get some old good some goodies, but oldies. But yeah, so this
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  triple play, um, you know, give you give you the set up
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  there. You know, we got first, I think it was first and
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  second clearly nobody out. Only way you can do a triple play, you
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  gonna have nobody out. And we got the fly ball going to to center
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  where Michael Harris is and I'm not sure if there's a misread coming off first
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  because you know, he catches it on the run and flat out run.
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  He's a fast guy. Uh, he catches it straight on the run and
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  he clearly sees an opportunity and he backpicks it first, which is a great
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  move. Um, but he doesn't straight on the run and not doesn't plan
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  it, doesn't do anything straight on the run, gets it to first,
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  and uh, we see a tag from second going over and immediately after backpicking
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  at first, the laser the third swipe tag. And I mean it was
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  instantaneous, all every piece of that play, from the throw to the to
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  the catch it first, to the throw to third and the swipe tag,
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  which it's almost like they rehearsed it and and I think you had to have
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  that for it to be accomplished. So um, I I was. I
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  was personally, you know, longtime baseball player myself. I loved the zany
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  plays the ones that like only can be created because of bone headed moves on
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  the bass paths. Like you, there's nothing this could not happen without the
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  stupidity of two guys on the bass path, somebody that going to a second
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  they shouldn't have been, and then somebody going wait because he's back picking my
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  teammate at first, I can make it in a third. None of that
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  should have ever happened. You should have been first and second with one out.
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  Yeah, So I don't know. I love the play. It was
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  exciting to watch. To your point, we probably won't see them again for
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  another hundred and thirty nine years. Yeah, I mean it's just the eight
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  three five triple play. Like it's such a weird combo, Like when you
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  even try to think about, you know, imagining what the numbers have put
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  out are on your baseball score sheet, eight three five, it's just like
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  you knew something weird happened. Yeah, I'd like to be in like the
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  head of Matt Olson, who's at first for this play, is does he
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  see us all in front and happening? Like, because he's the only guy
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  with that view, right, he's you know, Harris is only focused on
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  first, Riley's kind of watching it. I'll take place. And also this
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  guy kind of like Deek the Deek the Runner coming back and be paying attention
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  to the guy's breaking for thirdd Uh, he's gotta be sitting here going and
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  can't can I do this? Is this gonna happen? So? Uh,
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  it was? It was incredible. If you didn't see it, I know,
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  I know we'll link to it, uh and and share in the in
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  the notes for for the pod, but uh, crazy play. Make sure
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  you see it if you haven't. Yeah, And to bring us full circle
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  on the Taco Factor talk, it was you know she did that got thrown
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  out a third there, so you are not kidding you've been practicing these transitions.
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  I think the research department here on this podcast, which is solely underfunded,
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  Uh, the deserves a promotion. I agree, and UM with that,
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  I think we'll close it out for the first half here and we'll be
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  back with UM, we've got some trade show strategy talk. As we know,
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  The National is coming to Chicago this weekend up in Rosemont, so we
• 19:04
  know some people will probably be there or just be interested in what it's all
• 19:08
  about. So we're going to have a few strategies on how to work a
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  floor at a trade show. And then for the third act, we're going
• 19:15
  to have discussion on more trade deadline impacts for our fantasy teams. So this
• 19:21
  time we're going to focus a little bit more on the negative side, looking
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  need indeed. All right, welcome back, everybody. We're gonna talk a
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  little bit about the National Sports Collector Convention that's happening in Rosemont this weekend technically
• 21:06
  started today. A little bit of the details for those of you who might
• 21:11
  not fully be familiar with what it is, or also just remind you if
• 21:14
  you are a card collector and want to know what it is. It's the
• 21:17
  forty first of these that they happen every year, and it's the national and
• 21:23
  it's the biggest card conference really of the year that I'm aware of. But
• 21:27
  that might be a little bit my Midwestern bias coming through. There might be
• 21:32
  something different on the East or West coast. But it's a huge conference center
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  that they fill up with cards and vendors and you have all day to be
• 21:42
  there. It's open Wednesday through Sunday this weekend in Rosemont, and it's a
• 21:48
  thirty dollars entry if you're interested to going. There's VIP tickets as well,
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  which I think we're all sold out pretty quickly. Like I did look at
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  some of the details not going this weekend, but I did look because it's
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  just kind of in my backyard and the thirty dollars entry fees are the only
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  ones left. So people with the VIP tickets getting a little early be able
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  to get into some of those dollar boxes a little early, make deals a
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  little earlier. But I think the big thing people are also there for is
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  to do some on site grading and then there's just vendors on vendors on vendors.
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  We'll see how many taco fractors are pulled live streams from Rosemont this week.
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  But that's a little bit of a background on it. Like I said,
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  we're not going, even though we're pretty close to it. But with
• 22:34
  that in mind, we thought we would still talk about some trade show strategies
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  and trade show tips and tricks and things that we kind of look for as
• 22:44
  Jeremy and I run our own table often at a show in Schomberg and so
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  yeah, Jeremy, Like, I know you're not going to the National,
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  but like what would you do like once the first thing you got in the
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  door? Yeah, I think I think there's for me that there's a million,
• 23:00
  if some things you can do there. I mean you have to have
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  a strategy if you're going to the National, especially if you're just going for
• 23:04
  a day or two. I mean you have to figure out are you going
• 23:08
  there for like the National? Uh specific you know collectibles like you know Panini
• 23:15
  tops, all of them have like specific giveaways or you know, conference specific
• 23:18
  cards things like that that you can get. You know, the grading companies
• 23:22
  are all there, so PSA's beck get all of them are there grading on
• 23:26
  site. There's a crazy autograph lineup. I don't know if you if you
• 23:30
  looked the autograph lineup. I mean we're we're talking. We've got Andrew Jones,
• 23:33
  we got Mike Schmidt, Johnny Bench, Jeff Bagwell, Chipper Jones,
• 23:38
  Hall of Famer, Scott Roland just inducted, is going to be there selling
• 23:45
  signing. That'd be funny. Scott rolland just show us up with his own
• 23:48
  table. Yeah, I mean, just telling himself in his time. I
• 23:52
  guess yeah, exactly, blow it up, blow out of the water.
• 23:56
  We got Harold Baines, got Pedro Martinez, Ted Simmons. I mean the
• 24:00
  list goes on. One Marschell was there. I mean the list, the
• 24:04
  good list goes on. It is an incredible h lineup for autographs if you're
• 24:08
  into that type of thing, and then it's just you know, end to
• 24:11
  end cards. I think I was saw somewhere that the requirement to be able
• 24:17
  to even host this the National Sports Card Convention, which is the largest in
• 24:21
  the world. I'm maybe going a little further than I know. It's the
• 24:25
  largest in the US by far, and I'm just guessing that for us in
• 24:29
  the United States are the only crazy ones that buy so much cardboard. But
• 24:33
  um, you know, I think there's a requirements that you had to have
• 24:34
  ten thousand square feet of continuous space to even host the National and so the
• 24:41
  number of vendors there that are just there selling U is incredible. So for
• 24:45
  me, if I'm going I'm not a big grader, but that's probably one
• 24:49
  of the first things that I would do is get a card or two great
• 24:52
  that I've been holding off on because I'm just lazy and I don't want to
• 24:55
  send it off to PSA and wait for you know, forty five days,
• 24:57
  sixty days or you know, back in them pandemic days, two years to
• 25:02
  get something graded, and then from there I am deal hunting the whole time.
• 25:08
  Now for me, it's I'm not probably going for any you know,
• 25:11
  specific big cards. I'm I'm not a I will flip my cards here and
• 25:15
  there, don't get me wrong, but I'm not a high dollar collector in
• 25:19
  it just to flip and make the dollar. I have a PC that is
• 25:25
  probably too large, and uh, it's probably going to remain that way.
• 25:29
  So I would be hunting, packing for really good deals and things to add
• 25:32
  the PC the whole time. So how about you, what would your key
• 25:37
  target be is as you walk in the door to this massive convention. Yeah,
• 25:41
  I mean I think grading would be a consideration, just like you,
• 25:45
  because I haven't done grading, just like you said, and I think the
• 25:51
  chance to do it on site without the risk of sending your precious cards the
• 25:56
  mail is really tempting. And so to be able to show up with like
• 26:00
  a bulk lot, drop it off, come back a day or two later,
• 26:03
  have a grade, it would be really clutched, So I think that's
• 26:06
  something that if I do go in the future, that would be a consideration.
• 26:11
  And honestly, I think I'm similar to you too. I'm going to
• 26:15
  be out there hunting deals and looking through dollar boxes, and that's usually my
• 26:18
  strategy when I'm at smaller shows, is looking through the lower end cards just
• 26:25
  to make five dollars off of a one dollar purchase, or you know,
• 26:30
  buy bigger bulk lots of twenty five cent cards and fifty cent cards and get
• 26:37
  discounts that way. So I'm kind of a nickel and dimer like that,
• 26:41
  and so I'm not trying to flip the huge cards or I know, when
• 26:45
  we're running our table in Schomberg, it just astounds me when you've got like
• 26:49
  these little first graders walking up to you with like fifty thousand dollars Pat Mahomes
• 26:53
  cards and asking you if you have equivalent trade values to go for for baseball.
• 27:00
  Um, so that's not quite our Would you like my nineteen ninety five
• 27:04
  King Griffy Junior inserts? I mean, I yeah, he's clearly a bigger
• 27:10
  icon all these napkin patch inserts that I'm trying to move. If you want
• 27:15
  to collectively put them together or something. Um, it's not even the game
• 27:19
  Warren, it's the player Warren ones. Right. Yeah. Event for the
• 27:25
  event was the wearing of the jersey event. Yeah, didn't say who were
• 27:30
  it at the event? Yeah, just at some random event it was.
• 27:33
  It was the Taylor Swift concert. Just some random guy was wearing the Griffy
• 27:37
  jersey and they just cut it up. Yeah. So so I'm curious both
• 27:45
  of us kind of a dollar box kind of guys. We tend to spend
• 27:48
  some time. Where where do you tend to find the best dollar boxes?
• 27:52
  Like? What what's the table set up? When you're walking up to a
• 27:53
  table and you're you're sitting there, going I'm gonna sit I'm gonna pull up
• 27:56
  a chair and I'm gonna sit down here for the next thirty minutes, because
• 28:00
  that's the only way you can do dollar boxes, right, How are you
• 28:03
  assessed the table to see if if you think there's gonna be some hidden gems
• 28:07
  there, or if you think it's gonna be all these kind of things,
• 28:08
  it's just not worth your time. Yeah. I mean, I think familiarity
• 28:14
  with the show helps a little bit. Like if you're going into a show
• 28:17
  brand new that you've never been to. It's really hit or miss, and
• 28:22
  you're gonna have to do your best of kind of doing a lap and seeing
• 28:26
  what each table has and trying to, you know, take a peek into
• 28:29
  a few dollar boxes that are out there and seeing what you can just glance
• 28:34
  at Otherwise. I think one of the big things I actually focus on is
• 28:38
  seeing people who have a mix of like all sports, but lean a little
• 28:45
  heavy maybe on basketball and football and not as much baseball. But you can
• 28:51
  tell that they're ripping like higher end product, that they're ripping chromes, they're
• 28:55
  ripping inception and things that just like have nicer patches, nicer cards, nicer
• 29:02
  parallels. Because usually I find luck in those people either not quite being fully
• 29:07
  up to date on especially because I'm focusing on modern stuff a little bit more
• 29:11
  like hot rookies and prospects, and just some of the rarer parallels too,
• 29:17
  Like I know, doing that, I find lots of like top scrobe negative
• 29:22
  refractors that like they don't seem terribly rare, but they really are. I
• 29:27
  think their case hits technically and they're really tough to pull and they dry up
• 29:33
  pretty fast and so you can find good stuff doing that. Otherwise, like
• 29:40
  you're just trying to kind of see who's got stuff that's in your wheelhouse,
• 29:44
  Like is advantage, is it's new stuff, is it autographs? Is it
• 29:48
  sick patches? Like finding people who rip similar product and sorting through their dollar
• 29:52
  boxes? What about you? Yeah, I think you know you're onto something
• 29:57
  there with the guys that are ripping high end, but maybe just off of
• 30:02
  what you're after if you're looking for really good deals. I think what I
• 30:06
  where I've found a lot of luck in the past are the guys that don't
• 30:08
  have really a terribly big booth. They have, you know, a little
• 30:12
  case there with some decent, nice cards. Not we're not talking you know,
• 30:15
  a thousand and five thousand dollars cards. We're talking you know, some
• 30:18
  nice twenty thirty fifty one hundred dollars cards, just a handful of them,
• 30:22
  and then they have a small dollar box or two. We're you're clearly just
• 30:25
  trying to get rid of the excess. And that that seems to be where
• 30:27
  I've had some really really good luck with the with with the dollar boxes is
• 30:33
  finding you know, some good deals on the on the high end stuff and
• 30:37
  but really it's you know, they're they're there to sell their few big cards,
• 30:42
  and that's that's what they're there for. And then everything else is just
• 30:45
  like if it goes great, I don't really care. Um and it's I've
• 30:51
  had a ton of success. I uh most recent show, I was at
• 30:53
  um I, and you know, I buy a lot of Cardinals, not
• 30:56
  a surprise, being a big Saint Louis fan. UM. I went up
• 31:00
  to a table and the guy couldn't have had more than you know, ten
• 31:03
  cards in his case, maybe two boxes in front of him. And first
• 31:07
  thing I see is he's got a very nice Jack Flaherty uh to ten auto
• 31:14
  in his case for ten ten bucks. I'm like, I'm a Jack Clarity
• 31:18
  fan. I can't help it. He's not gonna be on the Cardinals after
• 31:19
  the next week. But I had to pick it up, and I'm like,
• 31:22
  well, I'm well, I'm here. I'm just gonna look through the
• 31:23
  dollar box. And one of the first things I see in the dollar box
• 31:29
  is a tink Hints uh skyfoil blue first about Bowman card for fifty cents.
• 31:37
  That Bowman tink Hins was worth more than the Flaherty and he's just like I
• 31:42
  don't, I don't just throws it in with it, and so you know
• 31:45
  it's it. You have to kind of know what the motivation is the seller
• 31:49
  if you're looking for some of those those cards and those deals. So uh,
• 31:53
  to your point, if you know the know the show, you got
• 31:57
  a good shot. Um. But I think rules thing you're going if you
• 32:01
  find those guys that are just looking to move things, you're los gonna be
• 32:05
  deals. Yeah, I agree, And like I think that's the biggest thing
• 32:09
  at the National Chief You're going to keep that in mind, is that it's
• 32:13
  just going to be so much volume that like there's also going to be I
• 32:17
  think if I were going, like, there's gonna be tables that just probably
• 32:22
  don't have as much action, and especially if you're getting there on one those
• 32:24
  later days like Saturday or in Sunday, And like I think to my experience,
• 32:30
  like running my table, when it gets kind of towards the end of
• 32:32
  the show, you do start getting a little slap happy with deals in terms
• 32:37
  of wanting to turn stuff around. It just kind of make some money,
• 32:40
  especially because I know those tables that the National are not cheap. I've talked
• 32:45
  to some people who are at our Schomberg Show that are getting tables there and
• 32:50
  they had to be like prepping and making sure they had all the right cards
• 32:53
  and all the gratings back that they wanted to put out, because it's a
• 32:59
  lot riskier endeavor when you're putting that much into a table. So if you're
• 33:01
  getting there on one of those last days, like that's also the time to
• 33:07
  go through people's stuff and just see what sorts of deals who can cut,
• 33:10
  because I would bet that most stuff would probably you know, fifty to maybe
• 33:17
  even more percent off, like fifty sixty percent off possibly, and like people
• 33:22
  are trying to just make sure that they break some sort of profit margin off
• 33:27
  at the table. Yeah. I think at that point, you're trying to
• 33:30
  make a good stack and you know, ask for a good price because they're
• 33:34
  going to give it to you. I mean almost everything at the card shows
• 33:37
  are negotiable. I mean even the fifty cent cards are negotiable. You asked
• 33:42
  me if you can have fifty cent card for sure? Like it's it's all,
• 33:45
  it's all negotiable, you know. The one thing that I do I
• 33:49
  think we need to talk about is what you avoid at the card shows what
• 33:52
  kind of things you have avoid, especially with the National happening starting today.
• 33:58
  There's another small card events happening today as well, the release of Tops Chrome,
• 34:04
  and so I think the worst thing you can possibly buy at the National
• 34:08
  would be anything twenty twenty three Tops Chrome because those prices are gonna be insane.
• 34:16
  They are never gonna be higher than they are right now. It doesn't
• 34:19
  matter who the guy is. Unless you have the next Mike Trout, that
• 34:22
  card will never be more expensive than it is today. So I just word
• 34:29
  of word of warning, because I've been there before, I've made the mistake
• 34:31
  before. I'm like, I've got to have this card and just like wait
• 34:35
  like ten days, and those things are gonna come down significantly. I saw
• 34:40
  a break earlier today that went it was like a twenty five box break or
• 34:45
  case break. Jordan Walker went for thirty five hundred dollars in that break,
• 34:52
  yes, And I was sitting there going, well, maybe I'll pick up
• 34:55
  a Jordan Walker or something like that. And once I got past like three
• 35:00
  hundred dollars, I'm like, Okay, well maybe I'll wait. So the
• 35:04
  prices will they will be coming down if you're gonna get a if you're need
• 35:07
  a box to rip, that's perfectly fine. I don't think there's anything wrong
• 35:10
  with that. Just make sure within a range. I think, you know,
• 35:14
  three hundred and fifty something like that. Maybe three seventy five is pretty
• 35:16
  fair for like a Chrome Jumbo. But unless you're getting you know, singles
• 35:22
  of like base guards in the dollar boxes. I would not buy a single
• 35:28
  insert autograph anything like that unless it's like a one of one that you'll never
• 35:34
  see again, and even that probably probably come back a little bit later in
• 35:37
  the day. Yeah, at least get their contact info exactly so when they
• 35:43
  don't move it. For ten thousand dollars for a Yoshida taco fractor, you
• 35:47
  have a chance to come back for it later. Oh man, ten times
• 35:51
  the price. I mean, one's off the market. So hey, it's
• 35:55
  only it's only going up from here. It's only four left. Yeah,
• 36:00
  I mean, you're luk, who's laughing? Now? What happens when that
• 36:02
  dude hits that Jordan Walker taco factor? I know about things, but you
• 36:10
  better hope you hit the Walker taco fractor. Yeah. I mean, hey,
• 36:15
  we're talking to twenty five case break, so there's like five hundred and
• 36:20
  forty autos in this break, but still I think you're averaging maybe two or
• 36:24
  three autos a player at that point. And I don't see, I mean,
• 36:29
  unless you're hitting a low numbered auto or really low number parallel, see
• 36:32
  how how you're breaking anywhere near even on something like that. And if you're
• 36:37
  buying at a break for that guy, you're probably also not flipping them.
• 36:39
  So you invested h and as if you're doing for fun, you have those
• 36:45
  funds perfectly fine. But I probably went a little bit. Yeah, I
• 36:49
  mean, especially you would have to think that. I mean, Walker has
• 36:52
  signed so much already, Like all you did during COVID was sit there and
• 36:55
  signed cards, you know, So like, I mean, it'll be interesting
• 37:00
  to kind of see where the future of all these new releases go with all
• 37:05
  these autos, because it's not quite like the way it was when autos first
• 37:08
  started coming out back in our day, where they were pretty short run still
• 37:13
  and yeah, it was actually hard to get something like auto actually meant something.
• 37:15
  Now it's just like, man, I need another Jordan Yamamoto auto.
• 37:21
  Here's worse my two dollars to pick up that thing up. So oh yeah,
• 37:25
  I was gonna stay on top of that too, like the with the
• 37:29
  autos, Like think about like how many of them were just like lost to
• 37:34
  time, because like I think back in the day, card collecting was a
• 37:37
  little bit more of like just yeah, more children. I think we're into
• 37:43
  it. Maybe it's just viewing it through my own lens a little selfishly,
• 37:46
  but like there were so many that were probably just banged up and didn't quite
• 37:51
  make it through. But like I feel like there's lots of people nowadays that
• 37:55
  are treating card collecting is like such a serious business and like really dedicated to
• 38:01
  it that the condition of them is probably nicer. But that also like makes
• 38:07
  every single one of them less rare, So it'll be kind of strange to
• 38:13
  I mean, hopefully we do this pod for twenty twenty five years and we
• 38:15
  can mark going back to episode three and uh seeing how this all turns out,
• 38:22
  you know. Yeah, I mean I know back from from cards I
• 38:24
  have back in the day, Like I have a I think it's a Bob
• 38:29
  Gibson in the collection that I've I've held onto because it's got a mustache drawn
• 38:34
  on it and from some kid that have at it and before I picked it
• 38:36
  up, And so I've had to hold onto that thing just because it's got
• 38:38
  the Bob Gibson mustache. And who doesn't want a card with Bob Gibson with
• 38:43
  a drawn on mustache from a five yield um. So those less as nostalgia
• 38:47
  at this point, yeah, one of one. The only the other thing
• 38:52
  I wanted to ask you is your opinion. So to your point, you
• 38:55
  and I've have run tables before, and we've we've been you knows before both
• 39:01
  sides of the house. If you're if you're going just solely as a buyer,
• 39:07
  should you bring things to trade and sell? What's what's your approach with
• 39:10
  that? What's your philosophy? I always bring a little bit just because especially
• 39:16
  there's always like a little bit of stuff that I'm trying to trade and people
• 39:22
  I think would be interested. Usually like when I'm doing that on a floor,
• 39:25
  it's stuff I know will interest people and you can use it almost like
• 39:30
  as cash, and so like Otani rookies, a Kuni rookies, Sodo rookies,
• 39:37
  like stuff that people know the value of pretty quick and you can move
• 39:43
  for five, ten, twenty fifty dollars, you know, where you can
• 39:46
  almost like denominate them like their dollar bills or like equivalents of like those dollar
• 39:52
  bills. So I will take a few of those, but usually not a
• 39:55
  lot, just because I'm usually in more of an acquisition mode. And it's
• 40:01
  also like it's just tough, like lots of those people that are running tables
• 40:07
  are only buying very specific things for their PC or very high end things or
• 40:13
  things that just like you just it's a total roll of the dice. So
• 40:17
  like, unless you know somebody who's looking for something that you've met at a
• 40:22
  previous show, I usually don't take too much just because it's also like it's
• 40:27
  gonna weigh you down. And I mean people who go to shows are all
• 40:31
  real nice, but like you've got to think a little bit of like the
• 40:34
  factor of like what you have on you and like what could sneak out of
• 40:38
  your backpack pretty easily. So I don't take too much. Yeah, I
• 40:43
  think you're You're right on. For me, it seems like the best is
• 40:46
  I mean whatever you can hold in like your hand that was maybe like those
• 40:51
  two dozen cards something like that, you know, top loaded, and you're
• 40:54
  talking cards that are in at ten to fifteen to fifty dollar range, like
• 40:58
  to your point, something that is worth enough if somebody's interested in but not
• 41:00
  so much that they feel like they're taking a big risk. And I think
• 41:04
  that's enough that you can go to tables say hey, you're looking at some
• 41:06
  things, and as you're looking, just like there's enough stuff to you to
• 41:07
  buy, just say hey, are you trading or buying yourself? And if
• 41:14
  they say yes, handing the stack that just fits in their hands they can
• 41:16
  easily look at while you keep looking like. You gotta make it so easy
• 41:21
  for somebody to do, and but you gotta make it also worth their while.
• 41:23
  They might go through and they're like, oh, there's one card in
• 41:25
  here that they really like or really fits their collection or something like that,
• 41:29
  and they're like, hey, you know forty dollars card here, I really
• 41:32
  like this one. Make sure you find forty dollars fifty dollars sticker price or
• 41:37
  something like that right just giving to you, and then just say, hey,
• 41:38
  he's even trade. Well, at the end of the day, I
• 41:42
  wasn't holding on to that card and I was gonna buy fifty dollars with your
• 41:45
  cards. And so it's a it's a clean sweep to your point. It's
• 41:47
  basically like it's cash so I think you do want to bring some you know,
• 41:52
  but don't don't overdo it. Don't bring I saw a guy the other
• 41:55
  day they had like an almost a monster box with them just walking around and
• 41:59
  like, it doesn't it's a little too much. Nobody's gonna take the time
• 42:01
  to look through that. So, yeah, that's a little intense. All
• 42:05
  right. Well, I think that's that's that's it for me for you know,
• 42:07
  uh, not making us the national myself this weekend, but hopefully in
• 42:10
  a show here in the next month or so, and deploy some of the
• 42:15
  strategies. Uh, there's there's no no uh no right strategy. There's just
• 42:20
  making sure you know what you want and what you're going after. Uh,
• 42:22
  and make sure you don't take too much because there's always something to buy for
• 42:25
  for everybody. And if it's a card that you you don't want to sell,
• 42:29
  don't take it because everybody will want to buy that card and it's gonna
• 42:34
  be hard to say no. So if make sure you leave your your key
• 42:37
  rookies behind or your you know, your family heirlooms, don't be bringing those
• 42:42
  outs. Yeah, I agree, it's never gonna work in that kind of
• 42:45
  moment um. Okay, Yeah, I mean I know that you just went
• 42:50
  over Tops Crumb coming out came out literally today as we're talking, on July
• 42:54
  twenty six. Any other releases coming up that we should notify people about.
• 42:59
  Yeah, we've got just about a week from from today, We've got twenty
• 43:02
  twenty three. Uh, Tops Alan and Ginter coming out. Alan Gunter is
• 43:07
  always an interesting set. Um. You know, the standard set always a
• 43:12
  kind of a clean looking set, but always has the very interesting non sports
• 43:19
  um inserts um. You know there was what the really popular crypto card a
• 43:23
  number of years ago. There's just really interesting ones. Um. I personally
• 43:30
  know my son actually really enjoys that set because he'll collect all the random buildings
• 43:34
  and things like that, because he's just like, oh, this is interesting.
• 43:37
  Um. And you know, you get random cards like animals and things.
• 43:40
  So I've never been one into those, but I think there's a lot
• 43:43
  of people that actually thought find that just entertaining. U. But that thinks
• 43:46
  it's a pretty pretty reasonably priced set and just it's interesting. It's not it's
• 43:52
  not your high end, it's not anything that's gonna you know, break you're
• 43:54
  gonna write home about. Well, I think it's always a fun set.
• 43:59
  So I mean, what are your thoughts on Alan Ginter? Yeah, I
• 44:01
  agree. I think I always pick up a blaster or two of it a
• 44:05
  year just because it is, like it's a goofy rip and like it's fun
• 44:08
  to like see all the weird inserts, and I like the little minis and
• 44:14
  so yeah, it's always interesting. But yeah, I think that's good to
• 44:17
  put on people's radars. We'll have to maybe we can think about for next
• 44:22
  week putting together like a little Alan and Ginter overview the way we did tops
• 44:24
  Chrome. I'm sure there's not quite as many parallels, but we can find
• 44:29
  some goofy cards and really kind of dive into a few things for people.
• 44:32
  Oh yeah, I'm sure there'll be some fun stuff to talk about Alan Ginter.
• 44:36
  So yeah, I think that's a good thing to throw on the docket.
• 44:37
  Nice, awesome. Well, okay, we will wrap up the baseball
• 44:42
  card segment here and we'll roll into the fantasy baseball coming up after this break
• 44:45
  stick with us, and we'll talk about some other trade deadline impacts that might
• 44:51
  have a negative value. All right, Welcome back everybody to the third act
• 45:14
  here of Cards and Categories, where we get into the fantasy baseball and so
• 45:17
  last week we talked about players who might have boosts in their fantasy value going
• 45:22
  forward from the trade deadline, either being thrust into bigger roles as young players
• 45:30
  or maybe even finding new roles. So let's look at the other side of
• 45:32
  the coin this week. Brew. I know that like the trade deadline is
• 45:37
  filling up all the talks we covered early in the first act, that Otani's
• 45:43
  not on the block anymore, but still plenty of other dudes are, and
• 45:45
  we'll see when they start moving. The deadline is still August first. They
• 45:50
  haven't moved it since we talked last week, and so yeah, I think
• 45:55
  with Otani being pulled off the market, we might start seeing some more actually
• 46:00
  this weekend, and so we'll see if some of these guys might get moved.
• 46:04
  But let's try to think of some guys who we should get out of
• 46:07
  the way now, try to either drop or move on the trade block before
• 46:13
  their value dips. I think i'll lead off here, so I was the
• 46:17
  one that kind of generate the topic, so I'll go with the first guy.
• 46:22
  The first one that I was really looking at is Jack Flaherty from the
• 46:24
  Cardinals. As our streak of talking about Cardinals players keeps going strong, mostly
• 46:30
  because I'm worried that whatever team picks him up is just going to throw him
• 46:36
  into a bullpen relief option. That obviously, he hasn't been the steadiest starter
• 46:40
  this year for you if you drafted him as over his hundred in four innings
• 46:45
  so far this year, he's got an eight seven K nine with an ugly
• 46:50
  four four walk per nine, and that has led him to a four thirty
• 46:53
  nine e ARRA overall seven wins with the futured Cardinals team. And so I
• 47:00
  think somebody's going to be looking at this profile and say, you know what,
• 47:05
  Jack's already walking too many guys. Let's try to move him into a
• 47:07
  bullpen where you can contain that a little bit. Maybe let that fastball play
• 47:12
  up a little bit, add a couple of ticks to it, lean into
• 47:15
  the slider a little bit more. He's throwing the slider twenty five percent of
• 47:19
  the time, which is actually a little bit down. The biggest uptick in
• 47:22
  usage that he has this year from his traditional mix of pitches has been the
• 47:29
  curveball bumping up a little bit. I think there's if you go to his
• 47:31
  Fangrafs page, it says he's got a new cutter this year, but I
• 47:35
  think it's probably blended into his old four seam rate and he's throwing his chain
• 47:39
  up a lot more. So. I think they can find a way to
• 47:43
  get away from his fastball that has been trending down philosophy wise. You know,
• 47:47
  came into the league sitting ninety four ish. It's down to the mid
• 47:52
  ninety two level right now. So Jack Flaherty, I think there is going
• 47:55
  to be a team as he's a free agent, goes out to the Ardinals
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  and says, hey, give him to me. Here's a rookie, ye
• 48:04
  prospected pitcher, and I'm gonna throw Jack into the bullpen. Yeah. I
• 48:09
  don't think you're You're wrong. I think with a lot of starters are gonna
• 48:15
  fall in this this camp, and now that Otani talks died down, I
• 48:19
  think the starter market's gonna start to pick up. It is probably the first
• 48:21
  thing that is we're really gonna get hot. Um, well, even before
• 48:23
  the reliever market. If he asked me, But um, I think that
• 48:28
  Flaherty he's got so much upside that somebody's gonna take him on. But there,
• 48:32
  But he is one of those guys I don't know how he would handle
• 48:37
  mentally, Hey, roll out of the bullpen. He is a sink or
• 48:39
  swim like I could. I could go either way with a guy like that.
• 48:44
  Um yeah, but I think he could be lightning out of the bullpen.
• 48:47
  And if so, I think a team has taken him on not looking
• 48:51
  to resign a potential for next year, is going to run the arm out
• 48:54
  and they're gonna do whatever they need to with them. So I think you're
• 48:57
  right, there's uh, there's quite a bit opportunity to do there for for
• 49:00
  downside. Unfortunately, Yeah, who is the first guy they die? You
• 49:06
  kind of had that you thought might lose some value in some retrade or rethinking
• 49:13
  of how we're going to value him going forward. Yeah, so I'm gonna
• 49:15
  have to, you know, well all our starter talk here go with Michael
• 49:19
  Lorenzen from the Detroit Tigers. M Lorenzen's is he's an interesting one. He's
• 49:23
  actually about fifty percent now in YAHOO League's just looking at you know, a
• 49:28
  quick roster check, and you know he's actually having a really good year.
• 49:34
  What worries to me about Lorenzen is U two things one. He has already
• 49:38
  thrown the second most endings of his career this year, and he has improved.
• 49:45
  It looks like he's traded out his cutter curveball for a lot more sliders
• 49:50
  things like that. But he also has the best walker his career by far,
• 49:53
  And so I don't know that it's all that's sustainable. I'm sure the
• 49:58
  pressure in Detroit's not that not that much. And I think any team trading
• 50:02
  for him is looking for him to fill the very back of the rotation,
• 50:07
  and that's it's probably somebody that's got an injury that they're waiting for somebody to
• 50:13
  come back like he he looks like the kind of guy you bring him for
• 50:15
  an insurance, but not that you're gonna rely on just because there's enough red
• 50:20
  flags that he's gonna fill innings and he's has his good ARRA. But you
• 50:24
  know, if you actually look under the covers, his you know, his
• 50:28
  uh x FIP is you know four point three, even though his his era
• 50:35
  is you know a little bit three and a half. Um. His his
• 50:39
  x CRA if you you you go with x CRA is the worst. It's
• 50:43
  spending five years, Like I think, what's gonna happen is he's gonna get
• 50:45
  traded and there's gonna be hype like because he's, you know, people been
• 50:49
  picking up because he's actually had some solid starts and they're gonna trade. He's
• 50:52
  like, oh, you know, they're gonna throw the Yankees out. The
• 50:54
  Yankees traded for lorenz And and so he's gonna all this hype around him.
• 50:59
  Think I think his value is going to go way past the actual you know
• 51:05
  ability. And it's not like he's striking out a lot of guys or anything
• 51:08
  like that. He doesn't even strike out seven or nine, so there's not
• 51:10
  like a lot of extra value there for him. And so I think Lorenzen
• 51:15
  is going to be one of those guys that if you picked him up for
• 51:19
  a hot streak or something like that, or somebody else's it gets really excited.
• 51:22
  When he does get traded, his value might go up for like one
• 51:25
  start, and then when he bombs that first start or they announced that he's
• 51:31
  the fifth starter until somebody's coming back from the eye l right, then I
• 51:36
  think his value is gonna go right back down. So Lorenzos one got a
• 51:39
  lot of red flags for me. Nothing against the guy, but if we're
• 51:43
  talking to a players. I had to pick one, Sauce. I couldn't
• 51:45
  take a hot Timey since he's off the market, So we're gonna go with
• 51:49
  Michael Lorenzon. Yeah, and I think that's a good one. His groundball
• 51:53
  rate is also at a career low since his rookie year at forty two point
• 51:59
  six. Right now, that's bad news, Sparris once you take that out
• 52:01
  of Detroit. Um, he's kind of really great home park and plays about
• 52:06
  a really terrible Central Division lineup. So you gotta be funny thing. It's
• 52:10
  funny when he's wished everything out for a slider and set his ground ball rate
• 52:15
  has has dropped. Yeah, meth not adding up something here. So unless
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  he's getting traded to you know, some huge ballpark like Oakland, I mean,
• 52:23
  why would Oakland take him? Right the all the all the ballparks that
• 52:28
  are really great for for pictures, there's not a lot of buyers there.
• 52:31
  Yeah, what's what's the next guy you got us? Keeping with the pictures
• 52:37
  here? Um, I think the next one I've got is Alec Manoah.
• 52:40
  So I don't think he's gonna get traded, but I think he's gonna lose
• 52:45
  his spot in the rotation again. I mean, the value has been pretty
• 52:50
  bottomed down on him anyway, obviously going back down to the Complex and having
• 52:55
  to rework all of his pitches, and there was a start that he got
• 53:00
  blown up by the Complex League team that he was facing off against. And
• 53:05
  it's been a disastrous season for alec Manoa, and it's possible that some people
• 53:10
  bought back in after that. Speaking of the Tigers, he had that really
• 53:15
  brilliant start against the Tigers coming off of the fourth July weekend when he went
• 53:21
  six sitting strong, had eight k's and knowing gave up one earned run for
• 53:23
  the win. But since then, after the All Star break, he's had
• 53:28
  two duds already again in his eight and third innings against Seattle and against San
• 53:32
  Diego, he has nine walks, including in the outing against San Diego he
• 53:38
  had no strikeouts, five walks, and so things are looking bad again.
• 53:44
  I think he's going to lose a spot. I think he's going to be
• 53:45
  sent back down to the miners. If there's anybody in your league that still
• 53:50
  has that memory of that Detroit Tigers outing that he had, you've got to
• 53:55
  try to move him now. Otherwise I'm just you've got a straight cut him,
• 54:00
  Like I don't think he's gonna be worth anything because he's either gonna probably
• 54:04
  be moved into the bullpen if the Blue Jays make a move, or sent
• 54:07
  back down to the miners, and even I would think in dynasties right now,
• 54:10
  like I think I would just cut him, like I don't, Like
• 54:15
  it's really terrible, and you probably spent up on him real big because where
• 54:21
  his value was earlier in the season, like he was the top twenty twenty
• 54:25
  five pitcher and being drafted like it. And so if he's tanked to where
• 54:30
  he's at now, like you've got to consider maybe just totally cutting bait and
• 54:35
  dynasty and like throwing him back into the scrap heap and maybe picking up somebody
• 54:39
  who's starting to shoot through the miners. Yeah, I think for him and
• 54:45
  the problem with him, as you know, for some guys that have really
• 54:49
  great stuff that just strike out twelve guys per Nie or things like that,
• 54:52
  like at least they can carry you somewhere else, like even when they're here
• 54:55
  a whip or falling apart, or maybe they don't do a tory of strikeouts,
• 55:00
  but they rarely walk anybody, so they maintain your whip even if they
• 55:04
  kill your ear a something like that. He's not doing any of that,
• 55:07
  right, He's across the board. Is not helpful. So I'm right there
• 55:10
  with you. I think, Um, he's eat almost either way, he's
• 55:15
  probably getting sent back, sent back down, and there's just not any value
• 55:19
  to be had there. The only only spot you have him is in a
• 55:21
  dynasty league. If you got him for like bare bones at the back of
• 55:23
  the draft or dollar player to pay what your format is. That's the only
• 55:27
  way you're holding on to Alcmanu at this point. Yeah, I agree,
• 55:30
  You've got one more picture to round us out for these starters. Yeah,
• 55:34
  one more picture, and I'm going back to the well in Detroit because clearly
• 55:37
  they need to trade everybody. Um, EDWARDO. Rodriguez. Um, And
• 55:42
  I think this is a you know, some people might be like, really,
• 55:45
  Rodriguez, what, what's what's the problem there? Well, you know,
• 55:49
  EDWARDO. Rodriguez, he's just he's running an eara under three already this
• 55:53
  year. Um. And so he's he's been solid. He's over nine case
• 56:00
  per nine. He's barely walking more than two guys per nine. So everything
• 56:05
  looks great right on the surface, but you know, word of Rodriguez is
• 56:09
  a streaky, streaky pitcher. He had a series of starts earlier this season
• 56:15
  where he had I think within six starts he gave up two runs in the
• 56:20
  total, and then since that time frame, UM, I think the like
• 56:24
  since mid day, his ears is almost five. Like he's so hot and
• 56:30
  cold, and I think when he if he gets moved, I think you're
• 56:34
  just running the risk that he's going to go really really cold, because he
• 56:38
  seems to be one of those guys that he just runs with whatever's happening,
• 56:42
  the hype or whatnot. And I think he's the guy that the kind of
• 56:45
  guy that the pressure gets to. You know, he always seemed to struggle
• 56:47
  on the big stage in Boston at like the most critical points, he struggles.
• 56:52
  So there's not like a whole lot of deep analysis here on you know,
• 56:55
  his uh, his slider usage or anything like that. I just think
• 56:59
  that he's it's just dreaky guy that's some that he's gonna get picked up and
• 57:02
  he's just not gonna be able to handle the heat of the Pennant race wherever
• 57:06
  he goes. Um, I think there is the volatility that scares me.
• 57:10
  And I think, right now, because his numbers look so good even though
• 57:14
  he's not been good for the last month and a half, almost two months,
• 57:16
  that somebody, somebody's gonna give you something good for him. And you
• 57:21
  can probably teut that he's gonna go to a Pennant race and he's gonna get
• 57:23
  more wins, you know, something like that. I think you have some
• 57:27
  selling value there. I'm running. I'm run for the hills with EDWARDO.
• 57:31
  Rodriguez. Yeah. No, I think I agree across the board. And
• 57:37
  it's again like the situation, it's going to be really tough for him to
• 57:40
  upgrade from his home park and find somewhere that's a softer landing spot. So
• 57:46
  I think if let's switch over to batters. Now, let's think of some
• 57:51
  batteries that we can go through. And I think I've got one right away
• 57:53
  that just kind of like Edward overviews. I'm not going to get into really
• 57:58
  like his stats and his bad ball data and stuff, because it's pretty straightforward.
• 58:02
  C J. Kron. If he gets moved out of the Colorado Rockies,
• 58:06
  I think wherever he ends up one, he's probably not gonna have a
• 58:10
  starting full time role like he might end up in a short sight patoon.
• 58:14
  But two, he's not playing in Colorado, so it's never gonna be an
• 58:21
  upgrade, so you might as well try to move him now that if somebody's
• 58:24
  maybe not thinking about that or doesn't really kind of put two and two together.
• 58:30
  CJ. Cron is a free agron after this year, so they should
• 58:34
  be moving him. And I mean, I know I rag on this every
• 58:37
  week in in the waiver Wires, and so does c A and all of
• 58:43
  his blurb stomp articles. But you never know what the Rockies are going to
• 58:46
  do, and it's possible they don't trade him. But I have a feeling
• 58:52
  with their trade of Pierre Johnson that happened like they might actually move some of
• 58:55
  these pieces, unlike last year when they just sat on Daniel Bard and let
• 58:59
  him beyond the roster. I think with the you know, the bashing of
• 59:02
  the Rockies in the way that they handle all things personnel, I think the
• 59:07
  true true telling sign here is do they have the up and coming first basement
• 59:13
  um that they want to block? And I don't think they do, so
• 59:15
  he's gone. H The only reason they keep him is because they want to
• 59:17
  block the up and coming first basement for the next three years. I think
• 59:20
  that's how it. Ryan McMahon and Brnnan Rodgers and basically any other h player
• 59:23
  that has been up and coming through that system has just been put through the
• 59:27
  ringer for for the years to come up. So I don't see anybody in
• 59:30
  the way or to block. I guess that's the opposite. So, yeah,
• 59:35
  CJ. Crown's gone, and you're right, there's no deep analysis needed.
• 59:37
  He's leaving Colorado some story story, story clothes. Yeah, how about
• 59:44
  you. What's what's about that you're thinking of? Yeah, I'm gonna go
• 59:47
  out on a limb here. Um. Even more than Edward Rodriguez, a
• 59:51
  guy with good numbers is Jonathan India for the Cincinnati Reds. You know,
• 59:55
  I think the problem with India right now is they've got so many young guys
• 1:00:00
  coming up that are taking playing time, and they are a team that probably
• 1:00:04
  could use a little bit of pitching. Um, he's gonna get more expensive
• 1:00:07
  before other guys out there, So I would not be surprised to see the
• 1:00:10
  Reds move Jonathan India. I'm sure Reds fans do not like to hear that.
• 1:00:14
  And I mean he's he's I'm not gonna say, got a colts falling
• 1:00:17
  there, but he is a very popular player there in Cincinnati, but he
• 1:00:22
  just might not have a spot long term. Um with with all the young
• 1:00:24
  guys coming up and all the talent there, Spencer Steers really taking taking a
• 1:00:30
  good spot in starting lineup. You've got Ellie, got cs, You've got
• 1:00:34
  McClaine, You've got all these guys that are really contributing, they just don't
• 1:00:38
  really need them. And the problem with that is if if Jonathan India is
• 1:00:43
  getting sold like he's a volume staffs guy, He's not unbelievable at any one
• 1:00:50
  thing. He just scores a lot of runs. He's got a lot of
• 1:00:52
  RBIs, he's got a few homers, he's got a few steals, he's
• 1:00:54
  got an okay average, Like a lot of his value comes from hitting the
• 1:00:59
  fact that he's hit the top of the lineup and he's getting a lot of
• 1:01:00
  volume. So wherever he goes, he's not going to a contender. If
• 1:01:06
  the Reds are selling him. If they're if they're using him to get a
• 1:01:08
  nice piece, he's likely going to somewhere, you know, a bottom ten
• 1:01:13
  offense from a top ten offense, and so I think that's just going to
• 1:01:15
  naturally hurt his his overall production. Nothing against the guy. I think he's
• 1:01:20
  actually a really great ball player. I think he's very solid, and in
• 1:01:23
  the situation he's in right now, it's he's probably a buy, right if
• 1:01:28
  he still stays on the Reds. I think the problem is, I don't.
• 1:01:30
  I think there's a good chance that he moves and that value really really
• 1:01:34
  goes down for a you know, rebuilding team. I'm not I don't know
• 1:01:37
  what team that is, but you know, he goes to Kansas City Royals
• 1:01:42
  for and that value is just not going to be what it what it was
• 1:01:46
  in that little bandbox in Cincinnati, Yeah, or Detroit for some of those
• 1:01:51
  Detroit pictures. So yeah, we're I'm calling him now Eduardo Rodriguez for Jonathan
• 1:01:55
  India and I'm dropping both of them. Yeah, And I mean, I
• 1:02:00
  think the other thing with India two is, I mean, Here's Parks don't
• 1:02:06
  come much better than Cincinnati really all in cours. And with that, like
• 1:02:08
  with Rockies players like you run into the Cours effect that at least with Reds
• 1:02:14
  players like you get all that Cincinnati production and there isn't quite as bad of
• 1:02:17
  like a road drop off. But I think that really kind of also hints
• 1:02:22
  at the theme of another hitter that I've got that also would be leaving a
• 1:02:29
  pretty cushy home ballpark, and that's Adam Duval. M Duval has been on
• 1:02:34
  the block as of late as the Red Sox have moved out Keik Hernandez,
• 1:02:37
  and I think the Red Sox are going to try to do a weird kind
• 1:02:42
  of threading the needle thing that Aj Preller has done in the past, where
• 1:02:45
  they move some of the extraneous pieces and try to find a little bit pitching
• 1:02:51
  and see if they can patch it all together when Chris Sale comes back and
• 1:02:54
  make a run at the wild card spot because they're a pretty solid team.
• 1:02:59
  Obviously they'd win both Central divisions, and so I think again, not not
• 1:03:04
  too much like real deep analysis on Adam Duval's stats and like what he's doing.
• 1:03:09
  I mean, he's got a one twenty one w RC plus on a
• 1:03:13
  year and that's even with the broken wrist in the middle of the year.
• 1:03:15
  So he's been pretty solid and has been hitting for power. But if when
• 1:03:21
  he leaves Boston, Boston is I looked at this, I think it was
• 1:03:27
  like last month, and one of my Wayer wire pieces is that right now
• 1:03:30
  through twenty twenty three, Finnway Park is like the number two hitter park behind
• 1:03:35
  Cooers right now by park factors. I think part of it, honestly is
• 1:03:38
  that as kind of global warming kicks in and Boston gets warmer and warmer,
• 1:03:44
  like that combined with the rabbit ball like just makes the alleys play like perfectly
• 1:03:51
  where you can drive it into those alleys deep and also pop easy home rounds
• 1:03:55
  over the Monster and over the around the pesky pole and stuff. So leaving
• 1:04:00
  Boston is a huge, huge hit to Duvall's values because he can't popping stuff
• 1:04:05
  over the Green Monster anymore. So, UM, if you have Adam Duvall
• 1:04:10
  and you've been actually, I mean, I was so like hell bent on
• 1:04:15
  knocking to just just statistics. I haven't even like looked up his like recent
• 1:04:18
  splits or anything. But let's see how he's been doing in the month of
• 1:04:21
  July since he's kind of been back from that injury, and he's down to
• 1:04:25
  an eighty four w RC plus since he returned. Um, if there's still
• 1:04:29
  anybody that is looking at the overall stat line year league. Um, you
• 1:04:33
  might be able to move Duvall and get out from unerneath him, or you
• 1:04:38
  might want to be starting to think about a contingency plan for your outfield.
• 1:04:43
  Yeah, I think you're you're right on there and I'm gonna I'm gona hit
• 1:04:45
  you my last guy, which I think to your point is, uh,
• 1:04:48
  we're we're playings off well, very very similar to Adam Duval. Looking across
• 1:04:54
  the board, I think you said d Vaal had one twenty one w RC
• 1:04:56
  plus my guy's got a one twenty nine older than Adam Duval. M Duvall
• 1:05:03
  on. Yeah, who's roster to twenty one percent? My guy sixteen percent.
• 1:05:06
  We're talking Tommy Fam of the New York METS. Um. I think
• 1:05:11
  the comparisons in there, uh, they're not by similar hitters by any means.
• 1:05:15
  Uh. You know, FAM's got the speed, uh power combo.
• 1:05:19
  Duval's got the power, power strikeout combo. Um. But I think that
• 1:05:25
  Fam is in a kind of a similar spot where he's got he's got a
• 1:05:29
  role right now, but he's this contracts up after the year. Um,
• 1:05:33
  he's thirty five years old. He's not a future building piece. And so
• 1:05:38
  he is that perfect fourth outfielder for a contending team. Um, because he
• 1:05:44
  can plug, he can he can spare guys. He's gonna be great off
• 1:05:46
  the bench if he needs some penship, finish, running speed, penship power,
• 1:05:50
  somebody to come in there like he's got. He's a great acquisition for
• 1:05:55
  a team that's contending. Really just looking to round out the roster and really
• 1:05:59
  go deep in the playoffs. That hurts his fantasy value a ton. And
• 1:06:04
  he has, you know, had a little helium as of late, just
• 1:06:06
  because he I mean I think he's already is he close to ten ten on
• 1:06:12
  the season. Yeah, he's got nine home runs, eleven steals, and
• 1:06:15
  so anytime it's like, oh, if you project that out, we're roughly
• 1:06:19
  halfway through season, I know where more like sixty sixty five percent through,
• 1:06:21
  But he could be on a twenty twenty pace, like you can easily misread
• 1:06:27
  how where he's going and on the big stage in New York. So,
• 1:06:30
  um, I think Tommy fan again, this isn't deep analysis. I think,
• 1:06:33
  uh, this, this, this whole section has not been deep analysis.
• 1:06:35
  It's just I think fam gets moved and I think he's looking in the
• 1:06:39
  fourth outfield role. And if anybody's willing to give you a you know,
• 1:06:44
  a quarter or on the dollar value, take it m and and move on.
• 1:06:48
  You'll find a replacement pretty easily. Yeah, definitely. And so I
• 1:06:53
  mean we haven't hit relievers yet. Relievers are going to be the biggest thing
• 1:06:57
  that move at this deadline. Um. Obviously, as we talked earlier,
• 1:07:00
  Offen Bizzario moved today, Jorge Lopez and Dylan Floral were swapped today, Chris
• 1:07:04
  Johnson moved yesterday, And there's just going to be I mean usually there's like
• 1:07:10
  a couple of trades every year of relievers that I look back on MLB trade
• 1:07:15
  rumors and I'm like, I didn't even like see that one come across my
• 1:07:18
  my like radar. So we've got a list we'll kind of do a rapid
• 1:07:24
  fire of like the guys that like we're just mash and sell on and we're
• 1:07:28
  trying to move on from because closers on bad teams end up being sixth and
• 1:07:32
  seventh inning relievers on good teams. First one that I want to actually like,
• 1:07:39
  I think we would have actually had the most to say about him because
• 1:07:42
  he would have actually had a chance to close it. I think in a
• 1:07:45
  couple of situations, is Jordan Hicks again getting back to the Cardinals, but
• 1:07:49
  they the Cardinals announced today that they were trying to negotiate with Jordan Hicks on
• 1:07:55
  a long term deal, so I'm not sure, but like what that is
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  going to do for the Cardinals long term, it's a little bit of like
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  early reminiscent of the Daniel Bard situation I just reference, and so we'll see
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  how that works out for the Cardinals. But Jordan Hicks might end up keeping
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  that closer role, so we'll kind of set him aside. So the first
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  one I wanted to cover was the Marlins bullpen getting back to that Jorge Lopez
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  trade. I don't know if they're done. Aj Puck has been real rough
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  as of late. He's gotten the dreaded vote of competence from Skip Shoemaker,
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  and it looks like Tanner Scott might be lining up for some of those saves.
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  Jorge Lopez probably will, but I'm not sure any three of them end
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  up as the closer by this time, kind of late next week after the
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  deadline for the Marlins that I think there's probably going to be another guy or
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  two that comes in and they made even I mean, who knows, they
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  might do something drastic like moving Eurie to the bullpen or something real crazy just
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  to try to compete. But um, yeah, if you've got any of
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  those dudes, I would start trying to shuffle around and prepare for your lack
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  of saves going forward. Yeah, I think you're right, And I think
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  of any guy if I if I'm willing to hold onto one of those guys,
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  it's probably Tayner Scott. He's looked pretty much lights out, but I
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  think he's also probably one of the most likely to move because of Because of
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  that, I think the name of the game with relievers. And this is
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  where we got back to the Jordan Hicks. I'm baffled that the cardinal are
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  trying to extend the guy right now because he's been all over the place for
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  the last few years and he like has two good months he's like, well,
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  clearly the closure of the future, and like in the reliever space,
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  like the time to sell is when they're when they are hot, unless they
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  are you know, that centerpiece of the organization they've they've got, you know,
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  that long term play on them. Like even some of those guys like
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  thinking, well, Craig krem Kimberl when he kind of fell off the map.
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  You know, like the relievers are, they're so uh you know here
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  and there that you got to sell them. So you know, I'm another
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  I'm gonna call it another bullpen here for us that similar to the Marlins,
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  the Diamondbacks, Uh, Diamondbacks do look like they're going to be buyers.
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  Um, I'm not quite sure. They keep sending some mixed signals of how
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  aggressive they're going to be. But you know that that bullpton is a little
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  bit all over the place. Um, you know, you got Andrew Chaffin,
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  who was the closer, Then you got mccow that was the closer.
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  Now maybe Ginkl is the closer. I'm not I'm not sure who's the closer
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  in most days. I think Nkle's kind of got the inside shot right now.
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  But if if you're looking to if they're looking to to compete for the
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  playoffs, they're probably bringing somebody in. I think that's actually a really interesting
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  slanting spot for somebody like Jordan Hicks. They could land there and then have
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  that goal and have that role. Sorry, and so I think you gotta
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  sell the vast majority of the d Back's bullpen, just like you're talking about
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  the Marlins bullpen. There's there's just not going to be the guys there long
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  term because they need some stability there at the back of the back of the
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  game. Yeah, and then I'll just ragle off real quick. There's a
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  fun of closers that are closing for losing teams that are gonna end up on
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  one of those roles, like I was saying, like in the sixth seventh
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  inning for a bullpen of a good team. So we've got four of them.
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  Trevor Bay of the Oakland Athletics, Kendall Graveman of the White Sox,
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  Scott Barlow of the Royals, and Alex Lang of the Tigers. All those
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  guys are sitting in closers positions right now getting saves for you, and they
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  won't be this time next week. So find a contingency plan. Either work
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  on trying to see where you can find some extra saves, or move out
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  from underneath these guys while you can. So Yeah, I think that really
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  there was a very very large overview of a bunch of different values that I
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  think could go up and down with this trade. Deadline, So I'm really
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  looking forward to it. I think it's going to be a bananas deadline with
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  all the teams in the race. So it'll be interesting for us to talk
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  next week after some of the dust is ship settled, or at least the
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  dust that we see that it's settled that hasn't zoomed to pass us on amable
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  trade dreamers. Yeah, I think you're right. I think it'll be interesting
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  to look back next week to see how much of this came true, uh,
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  and how and who moved that we did not expect to move, and
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  you know, really increase or decrease or value um, you know, to
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  your point, I think there's going to be a lot of movement. I
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  think there's so many teams that are are that think they're in it. Whether
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  they're in it or not, they think they're in it. And I think
• 1:12:25
  that's actually part of the excitement now with the expanded playoffs, is that there's
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  a little bit more teams that think that they can that they can play and
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  they can make a chance and then get a run deep at the end of
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  in October. So I think it'll be interesting to see what the trade deadline
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  brings. I think it's a built in topic for next week for us to
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  kind of do a quick debrief there and see if any of our predictions come
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  true, um or if there's something somebody has up the sleeve that we just
• 1:12:49
  did not see coming. So with a Tani off the market, I think
• 1:12:54
  the big question mark has been answered, but there's still going to be some
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  some pretty good movement here over the next few days. And I think this
• 1:13:00
  this weekend it really really starts to ramp up. Yeah, and I agree
• 1:13:04
  that, like, I think this two side coin is going to add a
• 1:13:08
  third side next week as we like can analyze what the values will be after
• 1:13:13
  the trade deadline, and we can just keep juicing the trade deadline for content
• 1:13:15
  as long as we can. Well, I'm just very proud that we were
• 1:13:20
  able to talk about a three sided coin bringing spaghetti to a White Sox game,
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  and amongst all of our topics a day, including talk of rectors.
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  So I think we have done a good job circling wagons on any topic that
• 1:13:33
  we possibly could have today. So we'll be back next week and I think
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  it'll be a great, great episode then as well. Yeah, and Jeremy,
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  can you remind people where to find you on socials and then we'll ride
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  out. Yep, find me out on Twitter or x at Jay Brewer one
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  seven. You can also find me on ras ball on the weekends doing the
• 1:13:54
  hitter profiles top one hundred lists for our hitters as well. So reach out
• 1:13:58
  to me any time. I'm glad to engage and have a chat about actually
• 1:14:03
  argument of where I'm at with the top one hundred hitters. I think that's
• 1:14:06
  a pastime of a few raz ball readers. I want to just make sure
• 1:14:10
  that they get the jab in for whatever I got wrong, which every week
• 1:14:14
  is wrong right and there's no there's no right answers for this. That's that's
• 1:14:16
  the beauty of the business exactly. And uh yeah, I'm Michael Art.
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  You can also find me at rasball doing waper wires on Saturdays. You can
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  find me on x slash Twitter while it's still floating around at in Cool seven.
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  And yeah, we'll be back next week. Thanks everybody.