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- 0:00Have you ever been in an argument where it feels like no
- 0:04matter what you say, it just makes things worse?
- 0:08You try to explain and then they get more upset.
- 0:12Then you try to defend yourself, which continues the escalation,
- 0:17and suddenly you're not even arguing about the original issue
- 0:21anymore. You're stuck in a cycle.
- 0:24Today I'm going to give you one sentence.
- 0:27Just one that can begin to interrupt that cycle in real
- 0:31time, to begin to interrupt that painful pattern.
- 0:35Now, it's not going to fix everything instantly, but it
- 0:38will begin to interrupt and deescalate almost any argument
- 0:44in real time. And we'll talk about the exact
- 0:47scripts and what that looks like to be able to do that.
- 0:51But we're going to start with just one sentence today.
- 0:54Welcome to trauma free relationship.
- 0:56I'm your host, Tom Philp, and I've been helping couples for
- 1:00years breakthrough painful patterns that keep them stuck so
- 1:04they can communicate better, repair more quickly, and stay
- 1:08connected. Let's get started.
- 1:26OK, as I mentioned in the opening, if it feels like with
- 1:31so many couples that they get, they get stuck in these patterns
- 1:35and no matter what, when they sit down and try to talk about
- 1:40something, that same pattern plays out.
- 1:43And for both partners, whether 1 is more anxious or one is more
- 1:47avoidant in their their attachment style or not, it
- 1:51feels like once that train starts coming, they can't stop
- 1:55it because the cycle will play out in the same pattern and it
- 2:00ends up keeping the couple stuck.
- 2:03And so here's what most people get wrong.
- 2:06It's it's arguments don't escalate because of the content.
- 2:10They escalate because of the lack of emotional safety.
- 2:15And the engine that drives cycles is dysregulation.
- 2:20So I was sitting with a couple just the other day and they're
- 2:24they're a wonderful couple. They're a beautiful couple.
- 2:26They are, they've been married a long, long time, 2530 years.
- 2:30They're both all in. They're not on the edge of
- 2:32divorce, but man, they are exhausted with the cycle that
- 2:36plays out in their relationship. And we were recounting a
- 2:40particular episode where they got frustrated with each other.
- 2:44And when we drilled down, what happened was they got stuck in
- 2:49the feedback loop where somebody asked a question, one partner
- 2:54did, the other one responded in a way that was a little bit
- 3:00elevated, which then fed back to the other partner that will, how
- 3:05dare you ask a question. And, and that's their
- 3:07interpretation. That's not what was really said,
- 3:10but the interpretation was, well, how dare you ask a
- 3:12question or what a silly question to ask or, you know,
- 3:16that there was some great expectation behind it.
- 3:19And so then the other partner, you know, responds with a bit of
- 3:22an attitude, right? Hey, I'm just asking a question.
- 3:25The tone shifts ever so slightly, just a little more
- 3:28defensively, and then the other partner reacts to that tone.
- 3:34And so it doesn't take much imagination here to see where
- 3:37this feedback loop is created and where so many couples get
- 3:42stuck. And when that happens, emotional
- 3:44safety drops, connection drops, defenses increase, and the cycle
- 3:50starts to escalate. And so in those moments, your
- 3:54partner feels unheard, misunderstood, and an
- 4:00unemotionally and not emotionally safe right, because
- 4:03their nervous system goes into protection mode.
- 4:06And when that happens, logic stops working.
- 4:11When we are in our protection mode, whether we start to shut
- 4:15down or whether we start to get super anxious, when we start to
- 4:19get really flooded with emotion, then the natural thing is for us
- 4:25to decrease the neuronal firings in our prefrontal cortex.
- 4:32In other words, the area right behind our forehead where we are
- 4:37able to logic and reason and and have empathy and stay connected
- 4:42with somebody, it starts having less firing and an increases the
- 4:48firing in our amygdala, our emotional center, and especially
- 4:51our fight or flight center. So if we had a map, we could
- 4:55literally see the color drain from the prefrontal cortex right
- 5:01behind our forehead. You'd see the color that would
- 5:04light up, that shows neurons firing in that area.
- 5:09It starts to go dark. And then you see this area in
- 5:12the midbrain that starts to really light up and get bright.
- 5:15And so I'm hoping, hopefully I'm kind of painting a picture for
- 5:18you there because that's literally what happens under
- 5:21functional MRI machines. As you could see the blood flow
- 5:24start to dissipate out of the logic area of the brain and it
- 5:29starts to increase in the emotional centers of the brain.
- 5:33And when that happens, we misunderstand, we mis hear, we
- 5:37misinterpret what our partners saying.
- 5:42And so This is why so often conversations end up going down
- 5:46rabbit holes is because they, you know, one partner feels
- 5:51defensive. And so they start to try to
- 5:54explain themself. And then maybe they, they bring
- 5:57in an example from the past. Well, now the other partners
- 6:00hearing that will this, you know, they're not in their logic
- 6:03brain. So they're not saying, oh, well,
- 6:05you're just using an example. This is perfectly fine.
- 6:07I know you're just trying to explain yourself.
- 6:09No, what they hear is, well, now you're attacking me.
- 6:12And now we're bringing in something that happened three
- 6:14years ago. Why are we talking about that?
- 6:16And you can just see this whole thing begin to devolve.
- 6:20And so, you know, emotional safety get sucked out the
- 6:24window, so to speak. Neither partner begins to feel
- 6:27heard or understood. And here's the crucial point.
- 6:31Here is the crucial, crucial point.
- 6:33At this point, neither partner starts to recognize the cycle.
- 6:39And This is why we talk so much about cycles, because it's at
- 6:43this point, or one or both partners need to say, hang on,
- 6:47hang on, we're doing our dance again, or we're caught in a
- 6:51cycle again, or hey, let's slow this down for a minute because
- 6:55we're A-Team here and I want us to be able to work through this
- 6:58together. But I also sense that we might
- 7:00be falling into our cycle again. Can we just lower the
- 7:02temperature a little bit? Any phrase at that point would
- 7:07be really helpful in order to lower the temperature because
- 7:12that's what's so important in that moment.
- 7:15So those are not the phrases that we're going to talk about
- 7:17today, but those are some of them that are really important
- 7:21and some that I would definitely add.
- 7:23So when one or both partners are in their protection, right, it's
- 7:27going to be really difficult for them to be able to logic their
- 7:31way out of an escalated nervous system.
- 7:34You just can't do it. You just can't logic your way
- 7:37out of an escalated nervous system.
- 7:40So if one or both partners are are in their protection, here's
- 7:46the phrase and the other partner has the capacity in that moment
- 7:50to see the cycle, here's the phrase that almost deescalates
- 7:55it immediately, and here it is. I can see why you feel that way.
- 8:03I can see why you feel that way. That is a powerful, powerful
- 8:09statement and that's the one I chose for the podcast today.
- 8:13There's probably plenty others, including a couple I already I
- 8:15already mentioned a few minutes ago.
- 8:17But the one phrase that really helps your partner begin to
- 8:21deescalate if they are getting escalated is I can see why you
- 8:27feel that way. Because what it does is it
- 8:30invites your partner into a conversation, not not a
- 8:35defensive stance. It doesn't feel like an attack.
- 8:39It's actually a bridge that says, OK, we're beginning to get
- 8:44escalated, but here's a bridge we can take to get de escalated.
- 8:50Here's a way to bridge to a place where we feel more heard,
- 8:54more understood and more safe to begin to open up and talk.
- 8:59I can see why you feel that way. And so there's three points I
- 9:04want to make about that. The first one is that's a form
- 9:07of validation. What you're telling your partner
- 9:11is that you actually get where they're coming from.
- 9:14Now, notice that phrase. It doesn't say.
- 9:18I can see why you look at it like that, or you make an
- 9:23excellent point. You must be right, because
- 9:26that's not validation. Validation is letting somebody
- 9:30know you get how they feel. And so being able to say, I can
- 9:36see why you feel that way. It's because you're human too.
- 9:39And at some point you've gotten frustrated and you've gotten
- 9:42upset or you felt rejected or abandoned or, and, and you can,
- 9:48you can actually empathize with that feeling.
- 9:50So what you're validating is the feeling behind what they're
- 9:53feeling, not necessarily the content.
- 9:57It doesn't have to be the content that you're validating.
- 10:01And that's really important because I think a lot of people
- 10:04feel like, well, if I say I, I, I could see it that way, then it
- 10:09means they're right and I'm wrong and I just don't think
- 10:11they're right. And that's not what you're
- 10:13saying. You're not saying that they're
- 10:15right and that you are wrong. All you're saying is, hey, I can
- 10:19understand why you feel that way.
- 10:22I can see how you feel that way. So validating is just letting
- 10:26them know that you can see it that way.
- 10:30That way they immediately start to feel more heard and, and,
- 10:37and, and it make there may be a little lag moment.
- 10:39There may be a moment where they're not quite getting calm
- 10:42yet. But if you say that and they've
- 10:45really feel that you mean it more heard, then you know, in a
- 10:51few minutes you're going to start to see their tone soften.
- 10:54Just a hair. It won't be as sharp, it won't
- 10:57be as crisp, it won't be as biting.
- 10:59It's it'll, it'll just be softened just a hair.
- 11:03So you have to stick with it. I could see why you feel that
- 11:06way. If if they respond with a, a
- 11:10sharp tone, just stick with it. OK?
- 11:14Don't respond to the sharp tone. I get it.
- 11:17I understand. I can see why you would be
- 11:19upset. Another way to phrase it.
- 11:22That makes sense why you'd feel hurt.
- 11:24Another way to phrase it. I get why that landed that way
- 11:28for you. Another way you can phrase it.
- 11:32I felt that way before. I can see why that would be
- 11:35hurtful, right? Any of those kinds of validating
- 11:39statements is going to help your partner begin to deescalate now.
- 11:44This is assuming that both partners aren't escalated
- 11:49because it's very possible in that moment that the other
- 11:54partner is also escalated and they're not on a place where
- 11:57they can say, I see why you feel that way.
- 12:00So this is one of those situations where this phrase has
- 12:05to be able to be used by one partner.
- 12:07That's not escalated yet, which is why, why it's important to
- 12:11catch it early. It's really important to catch
- 12:14these things early. So part of what you're doing
- 12:18when you say, I can see why you feel that way is you are
- 12:22validating the feeling for your partner.
- 12:25I'm sure we've all had this similar experience where
- 12:29somebody's upset or angry or mad and you've seen, you've seen
- 12:35them start to get, you know, pretty animated or whatever.
- 12:38And, and, and their voice raises and, and they're getting very
- 12:42expressive in their tone and sharp with, with their tone.
- 12:46And if somebody tells them you need to calm down, does that go
- 12:50over well? Absolutely not.
- 12:53Absolutely not. They usually get even more
- 12:56upset. Why?
- 12:57Because it's the opposite of I can see why you feel that way.
- 13:01You need to calm down sends the message.
- 13:03The subtext of that communication is you don't have
- 13:07any right to be upset. You're overreacting.
- 13:10Just stop it, right? It makes somebody feel less
- 13:14heard, less understood. So usually if we use that phrase
- 13:18on them, you need to calm down, they get even more upset.
- 13:22So when you are engaging with somebody, and this is true of
- 13:26whether it's your partner engaging somebody at work,
- 13:29whether it's a colleague or whether it's a parent or sibling
- 13:33or a friend, anybody in your life, this is one of those tools
- 13:37to have in your back pocket that can help deescalate things.
- 13:41I could see why you feel that way and you can even add some
- 13:45specifics onto it. I could see why you feel that
- 13:48way because that's a really difficult project with such a
- 13:51short timeline. Of course you're frustrated.
- 13:54You should have been giving them more heads up.
- 13:56I can see why you feel that way, brother or sister, because mom
- 14:01can be so difficult to deal with sometimes, right?
- 14:05So you can even add a little bit of the context onto it, which
- 14:08even just enriches that statement even more because it's
- 14:12not just so broad. Oh, it will be helpful, but it
- 14:17also will really allow you to, you know, put specifics on to
- 14:24it, which can be helpful to the person as well.
- 14:26So the first point is that it's, it's this is a validation, which
- 14:30validation usually de escalates people, not, not escalates them.
- 14:37The second thing you can do is name the impact, not your
- 14:42intent. Hey, I could see why you would
- 14:45feel that way. Perhaps I said it with a certain
- 14:48tone, but that's not the way I meant it.
- 14:50But I, I totally get that, that that came across in in sort of a
- 14:57difficult way. An excellent example of this is
- 15:00a personal example. So my wife and I were trying to
- 15:03talk to through some stuff the other night and, and I was
- 15:07really tired. I just had a, had a long day
- 15:10really be didn't have much, you know, capacity to, to handle
- 15:14complex thought that evening. And, but she was, she was
- 15:17helping me with some things and she had some questions about it.
- 15:20And I think because I was so tired, I came across as more
- 15:24impatient. And so, you know, we, we, we
- 15:28kind of had a moment, if you will, where we're like, hey,
- 15:32what, what's going on here? What's happening?
- 15:34Because we both started kind of getting a little bit defensive
- 15:36and using some tones and we had to stop and we had to slow it
- 15:40down and we had to acknowledge, hey, you know, I'm, I'm, you're
- 15:44helping me here. I recognize that if I'm coming
- 15:46across as impatient, it's not because I'm upset with you.
- 15:50I'm just really tired and, and I just, I'm, I'm trying to muster
- 15:54whatever energy I have in order to be able to address these
- 15:58questions. And so, you know, we had to kind
- 16:01of find our way into, oh, OK, how can we validate what's
- 16:05happening here for each other so that we become de escalated.
- 16:10But being able to name the impact without and separate that
- 16:15from your intent is really also important.
- 16:19And in some ways, it does that. So if you say, I can see why you
- 16:23feel that way, Part of what you're saying is I understand
- 16:27the impact my words have on you just now.
- 16:30So that's point #2 is you're also letting them know that,
- 16:33hey, you're talking to me and something just happened between
- 16:37US and I can understand the impact.
- 16:40Now. You might clarify the intent in
- 16:42that moment. You might not.
- 16:45It just depends. But either way, what you're
- 16:48doing is you're teasing that apart.
- 16:49There's a difference between an impact and the intent.
- 16:54When our boys were really small and, and they're three years
- 16:58apart and they would play together, inevitably the older
- 17:02child would end up hurting our younger child.
- 17:05And of course, the younger child then would get hurt and they
- 17:07would come screaming to mom or dad, you know, oh, my brother
- 17:10hurt me and blah, blah, blah. And then, you know, we would
- 17:13calm that person down, you know, that child down.
- 17:16And then we would go back to the older child and as soon as we
- 17:19even said 2 words to him, he would get defensive.
- 17:22I didn't mean to. And we always had to talk him
- 17:26down. And we would say, look son, we
- 17:29know you didn't mean to. You guys were playing, you were
- 17:32roughhousing. We know this is what you do.
- 17:34I understand that you did not mean to hurt him at all.
- 17:38And we're not saying that you meant to hurt him, but the
- 17:41impact was that you did hurt him.
- 17:44And the behavior was that you did, even though it was an
- 17:46accident. Can you just apologize for the
- 17:49behavior? And then he would calm down and
- 17:52he's so sorry. And you know, and they would,
- 17:54you know, 2 minutes later, they would go right back doing the
- 17:56same thing that got him hurt in the 1st place.
- 17:58But what we had to do is help him tease apart.
- 18:01Hey, we know the intent was not to hurt him.
- 18:05You're older, you're bigger. We know that you're not trying
- 18:07to hurt your brother, but you did hurt your brother, and so
- 18:11you need to say sorry because the impact was that it did hurt
- 18:15him. So when we use that phrase, I
- 18:18understand how you feel. Part of the subtext is we're
- 18:22saying that I recognize something I've said or did might
- 18:25have hurt your feelings in this moment.
- 18:27And that's really important to be able to recognize that and,
- 18:32and, and, and talk about that as well.
- 18:36OK, point #3 this statement invites repair without trying to
- 18:43focus on winning. Notice I see how you feel.
- 18:46This way is not about me over you or me under you.
- 18:52It's not about you. Better listen to me because my
- 18:54point is more valid than yours. It's not about whose perception
- 18:58of reality is going to win out, but rather is It is a moment and
- 19:03a step towards repair because what you're doing is you're
- 19:07softening and saying, I get where you're coming from.
- 19:11And so that is a great step towards repair.
- 19:15You can also add on something like, I don't want us to fight
- 19:19like this, or hey, can we reset and figure this out together or
- 19:24I'm on your team even if we're upset or hey, I we're in our
- 19:29cycle again, can we stop and slow this down so we can work on
- 19:33this together? I really want to be able to hear
- 19:35what you have to say. So any of those additional
- 19:39phrases you could add on to that.
- 19:42I understand how you feel because this is a step towards
- 19:47repair and reconnection because in that moment we've had a tiny
- 19:51rupture. No matter how you know big the
- 19:54escalation might get between the two of you.
- 19:57If either of you've been triggered and are in your
- 20:00protection, we've got the makings of a rupture.
- 20:03Here we are in a rupture. The emotional bond is sort of
- 20:09broken for the moment. I don't mean permanently, but it
- 20:13in that moment the emotional tie has been severed a little bit.
- 20:17And it needs to be reestablished and repaired.
- 20:21And so by saying I understand how you feel or I understand why
- 20:27you would feel like that or feel that way is a step towards
- 20:33repair. And so you can always say, you
- 20:36know, I understand why you feel like that.
- 20:39I don't want us to fight like this, or I can understand why
- 20:41you feel that way. Can we reset and figure this out
- 20:45together? Right.
- 20:46Even adding a little bit of repair language on to it is
- 20:50going to get your partner to deescalate.
- 20:53And so the other thing I like about this phrase is that it
- 20:58really, it really helps deescalate your partner.
- 21:06And, and again, it's important if you use this phrase once and
- 21:10you don't see an immediate result, remember, there's a lag
- 21:14time in the system. The system doesn't respond
- 21:18immediately. If you in, in other words, let
- 21:21me phrase it this way. You know, if if your diet is a
- 21:25Diet Coke and and candy bars every day and you decide, OK,
- 21:30I'm going to start dieting come Monday and then Monday you eat a
- 21:34bunch of fruits and a salad, are you going to see a weight loss
- 21:37on Monday? No, of course not.
- 21:40Does that mean you go back to eating candy bars and Diet Coke?
- 21:43No, you've got to stick with it. And so this is, this is part of
- 21:47it too. You've got to stick with the
- 21:49phrase you've got to stick with. And I said you can add those
- 21:53other phrases we've talked about too.
- 21:55So I understand why you feel that way.
- 21:58I didn't tend to hurt you, but I can see how it felt like that or
- 22:03I understand why you feel that way.
- 22:04This wasn't my goal, but I understand why it landed the way
- 22:08it did. Or the other night with my wife.
- 22:10Hey, I understand if it seems like I'm really impatient with
- 22:13you. I'm really not.
- 22:14I'm not upset, I'm not mad, I'm just really tired.
- 22:18But I can see why it comes across as me being impatient.
- 22:22I'm sorry about that. That's not my intent.
- 22:24So, so, and, and by the way, here I, I, I don't get it
- 22:27perfect every time. So I'm not trying to set myself
- 22:30up as somehow, you know, that I, that I, I go home and I just
- 22:34automatically transfer. Nope.
- 22:35I'm human too. And my wife and I fall into
- 22:37cycle sometimes as well. And, and we get short with each
- 22:40other and we get a little bit upset.
- 22:43And this happens in all relationships.
- 22:47So I, I use myself as an example because I'm just like you and I
- 22:50can fall into these traps as well.
- 22:53So but being able to use that phrase is being able to do three
- 22:57things. One, it validates the person and
- 23:01how they're feeling. I can see why do you feel that
- 23:03way. Two, you're separating out the
- 23:07impact from the intent. I didn't mean that, but I can
- 23:11see how it came across that way. And three, it automatically
- 23:15starts to invite repair. I care about us more than I care
- 23:20about being right. I'm sorry.
- 23:22I can see how you feel that way. Can we slow this down and, and,
- 23:27and reset? Because I didn't mean for it to
- 23:30come across like that or I could see you're upset.
- 23:33I'm not sure what's happening here, but I'd really like for us
- 23:37to work together on it. Or can we slow this down?
- 23:40Because I can see you're upset. And I'm not sure what I did or
- 23:43said that upset you, but I really want to know.
- 23:46I want to learn. Any of those phrases can be
- 23:50really important to be able to use in order to deescalate the
- 23:57argument and deescalate your partner.
- 24:00So this is often why we talk so much about emotion regulation,
- 24:05because if one partner starts to get dysregulated before the
- 24:09other one, then it's in part, I don't know if I should say the
- 24:14responsibility, but it at least the other partner has more
- 24:18capacity to be able to use these phrases.
- 24:21And so if you see that your partner can get dysregulated
- 24:25sometimes and they start to get upset and you're like, man, I
- 24:29never know what's right to do here.
- 24:30I never seem to be able to get it right for them.
- 24:32I never be able to seem to to reach them in these moments.
- 24:35This trains comes and I know that if it continues, eventually
- 24:40I'm going to get upset and I'm going to say things I don't mean
- 24:42and man, I hate this. Then start trying to use this
- 24:46phrase early on, especially in that uh oh moment.
- 24:52Your body will tell you when that moment comes.
- 24:56You'll feel it in your body. When you see a look or you hear
- 25:00a tone on your, in your partner's voice or see it on
- 25:03your partner's face, your body will go, uh oh.
- 25:06And you'll know. And when that happens, start
- 25:09thinking, OK, how can I validate what they're feeling?
- 25:13Because this will help stop that train coming.
- 25:16This will help slow things down so your partner feels more heard
- 25:20and understood. I can see why you feel that way.
- 25:24And then you can add any of these other statements on to it
- 25:28to be able to help with that. And, and just it, it'll, it'll
- 25:32sort of drop the tension in the relationship in part because it
- 25:37helps validate what they're feeling.
- 25:40It helps own the impact and separate the impact from the
- 25:44intent. And finally, it it's a step
- 25:47towards repair instead of just going off the rails and our
- 25:51cycle playing out. And we're not going to talk for
- 25:54the next three days. Instead, that phrase begins to
- 25:58work towards repair and reconnection.
- 26:04All right. Thanks so much for listening.
- 26:06I hope you found this valuable. Please keep reaching out.
- 26:10Let me know what you'd like to hear more of.
- 26:13Until then, we'll talk to you next time.