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Bradders Grappers - Epi 34 : SUPER Futureshock · Bradders Grappers

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Hello and welcome to episode 30. Whatever.
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I joined as always with my unofficial official Co host in
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Miles Smith. Good evening.
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As you can tell, we are a lively bunch today and also joining us
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from rambling about wrestling the better half of the duo, if
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you want to put that down. And yes, Jack, I, I did say
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that. Oh, I'm lucky, Jack.
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Come at me, bro. We are joined by Sam.
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Good evening. It's.
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Great to be here wrestling. This episode we are looking back
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at what happened at Future Shot. Was it super Future shot?
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Super future shock. Because I didn't make a note of
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what the show name was called. So we have a few matches and a
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lot of talking points, so we will get straight into the show
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because a couple of us are tired and we work with children as
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someone once famously said. So match one, we start off with
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the Adrenaline title match which was Tony Wright defending his
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championship against Teddy Ray in a first ever meeting between
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the two. So I will give you the notes 1st
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and then we will get the reactions.
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So originally the two shake hands to start the actual match.
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However Teddy Ray does not want to let go of Tony's hand so he's
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almost in a hand trap. If you like.
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Both men then show off their map based skills.
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Ray rolls up Tony and then gets in his face before he then has
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the better of the next portion of the contest with a little
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gentle flex as he tends to do to the crowd.
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Wright soon returns favour, folding Ray up like a pretzel,
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and mocks his opponent by flexing himself.
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Our Teddy Ray right then stands over his opponents almost as if
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you can do it, I can do the same.
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We get a very good technical match from that point, our way
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of continuous pin reversals from both resulting in ref Laura
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counting at least 8 separate pinfall attempts.
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This is a very back and forth contest, with neither man
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dominating this match whatsoever.
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Teddy Ray begins to stray the line a little bit with left ref
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Laura getting very strict and Ray being a very apologetic and
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almost Father Jack White almost going.
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I'm so sorry. Yes there might be one or two
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Father Ted references. Right then gets a couple of near
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falls right then sorry. Ray then slaps right with a
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couple of flurry slaps. Tony responds.
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Ray dodges and attempts A61 rat as I'm calling it.
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We then get the bite spot from Teddy.
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Ray finally hits 61 rat, attempts a top rope crossbody
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which is reversed by Tony Wright.
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We then see him hitting Sweet Chin Music but he's in no
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position to make the pinfall. A Teddy then throws a punch and
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sees Tony clutching Ray's arm does his own little bright spot,
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much to the joy of the crowd. Then we see Teddy Ray running at
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Tony who hits the claim to fame for the 123.
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Didn't get all of it, it has to be fair, but wins in a time of
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14 minutes and 15 seconds. Who would like to come into
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this? I will go Miles, because he's
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had his hand raised for quite a while.
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I was going to mention that it was originally supposed to be an
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open challenge, which I'd rather have been an open challenge but
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future shop management want to Dist minish the open challenge
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and just go with a Teddy Ray match so.
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I mean, at this point I'm almost sick of open challenges.
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I've seen far too many open challenges to last a lifetime.
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We've Joey Hayes doing them last year so to actually have an
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actual match announced I will happily take.
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I don't mind the odds. Open challenge.
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This was a very different 1 though.
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Ignore me while I have a video on the background of Teddy
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versus Tony. OK, I was wondering what on
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earth that noise was. Yeah, it made a bit of sense for
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Tony to kind of like have a open challenge because everyone
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seemed to have a match on this card that we that's normally on
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the show with a couple that were kind of like away from the show.
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And in fairness, it was it seemed like it was probably got
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to be a Northwest strong opponent just due to who was
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left. But Sam, what was your take on
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this before we get Miles is follow up?
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I feel like I really enjoyed this match.
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It was, it was very technical, like a lot of Tony's matches.
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And what what I like is that Tony's like at some point it
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looks like two people just cartwheeling over and over
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because they're just, there was a lot of roles and a lot of
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reversing out of holds and everything.
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So I think this match had one of the best choreo of the night.
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You know, it flowed real world. There wasn't like many dull
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spots. My biggest problem with the
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match is that it went on first because I feel like, you know it
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set the bar a bit too high. The for the rest of the match
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is. Yes.
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All I had to say. Yes, that's all we have to say
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I. Just heard a little buzz and
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then kind of like nothing I thought I'll be waiting on.
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I'll jump in. Well you was due to talk miles
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so. Yeah, I'll jump in now.
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Anyway, overall it was a really, really good opener.
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Probably the match of the show in my opinion.
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Great technical wrestling, a lot of chain wrestling, quite a few
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pin of attempts, Really, really fast pace.
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What you expect for an Adrenaline title match Teddy Ray
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brought is a game. On a couple of occasions it
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looked like Ray had totally beaten.
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Considering it was a first time match up, it felt like they've
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wrestled each other before. I I think I have seen him
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wrestle kind of like more in like the performance Centre from
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my clips in the past. On your point, Sam, about having
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this as an opener, I would say as I think a few places now of
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if you're not going to be the main event, you want to be the
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first match on. So I can understand why they put
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this on. And personally I don't really
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have a problem with it because it you want to set the tone of
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how your show is going to go and the way the last few have been
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at Future Shock, they have all been pretty much like banger
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matches on the last couple of months or so, so.
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A couple months it's all been Tony because I think Tony has
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opened the last couple shows if I'm not mistaken.
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I will double check that I. Know he opened with Gorgon at
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Test of the papers I believe. At the union, he's open up.
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Attitude error 2 point O against Proctor in the reverse count
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match. He also opened there.
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So Tony has, you know, in 2026 been opening the majority of
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each Sharks events? I will, I will say the the match
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he had with Doctor Proctor was a last November.
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So if we're looking off this year, he he defended the
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adrenaline title at the Fairfield, but that was judge by
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that, that was not the first match, no.
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That was. No, it was the IT was the
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penultimate match. The first match was Pele,
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Proctor, Dukes and Vespa. Oh yeah.
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He wasn't at Lotto funder. Brexit convention doesn't count
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I realise. A future shock show to me.
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Strike first was Lily and Melissa, then he faced Gorgon at
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Test of the Faithful Part 1 and he's done the same again.
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So the only thing I will say on the last show he was booked
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elsewhere and had to pretty much dash off.
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So on that one made a bit of sense.
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This one I think is just to kind of like get the crowd going and
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moving and I think you will with with Tony on any show, Miles.
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Oh, have I still got my hand up? I forgot I still had it up.
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I don't know where to go now. It's.
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Been nearly a year, hasn't it Tony?
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His title difference? Yeah, it's been nearly a year 9.
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Months, hasn't it? He won it on 17th of August, so
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still got fair he's still got another four months yeah 241
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days currently the cage match says so hey, let's see how far
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his rain goes. We move to a match #2 which I
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think we'll get a few comments on on this one.
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Well, we'll, we'll touch on the match and then we'll the fallout
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after. So it was a four way scramble
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with the Canadian legend Peter Sidor, Josh Eazy, Aziz from the
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McCarthy Performance Centre and Dr Proctor.
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That was your four. However, we then had a image
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flash up on the screen at the Stockport Guild Hall saying new
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foe has entered this match and it was John, which drew a
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massive pop from the Stockport audience.
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So again, we'll come to John at the end.
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However, we started off with John entering the ring shaking
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or tried to shake hands with everyone in the match.
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Aziz did not want any part of John near him.
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We either have John going up to Seedor and saying can I share
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the honour of the ring with you before we start the match which
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got the crowd going and then saw Peter close lining.
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Then from that point that we went pretty much into the
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contest where we have easy throwing seed or over the top
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rope. This leads to Doctor Proctor
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diving through the ring ropes hitting John as seed or pretty
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much put him in front of him. Like I was going to say human
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centipede, human shield. Don't ask, don't, don't even
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ask. We then have Josh looking to
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follow suit but he's cut off by Aziz who nails him with a
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clothesline. He then mocks the stop up crowd
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by going easy easy. We then have a springboard
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crossbody by Easy to Aziz. Sidor then comes into the ring
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where Josh attempts a cutter but Sidor does a great job to avoid
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taking the actual move and does a handstand.
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This then sees the Canadian hero hitting a full Nelson slam.
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The Doctor is in as Procter hits Sidor and puts him on the back
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foot hitting a, what are we calling it the the defibrillator
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clear. I don't think there's an actual
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move name for it. I don't think he's got a move
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name for it, Yeah. We'll call it the defibrillator.
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Pete does a great job of absolutely selling this move as
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he springs back like he's on a bungee cord into the turnbuckle.
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So which I think I keep saying it constantly in the video,
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saying how good it was. We then have Aziz and Sedor
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joining forces, it looks like as they take the rest of the field
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out. The two share an embrace.
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But Aziz has no time for him. Effectively turns on Sedor
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Stokes. Aziz has a purple patch in the
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contest. Sido then runs the ropes.
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So you had John Neely in the ring and pretty much was on
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Dream St. Sido runs the ropes as violently
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as one can, at least three or four times, and then just
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playfully slaps John, who crumbles to a heap.
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John then knocks the Canadian down for a couple of
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clotheslines before Sedor then catches him, hits him with an on
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prettier. Then we get a 2 count and we
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stutter towards a three count. Sedor wins, but we've got a
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little asterisk next to that and wins.
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Wins in a time of 8 minutes and 40 seconds there or thereabouts.
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Johnny rolls out of the ring and he's helped by future shock
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staff because no one particularly knows what's going
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on at this point. So we don't know if John had
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suffered an injury and they kind of cut the match short or I I
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don't think we'll fully know what's happened unless you
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you're in the back. So the streak is over and is no
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longer 0 and 16. He is now 1 and 16.
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Or is he? Because in the last couple of
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days, Future Shock have put a video out of Sador basically
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leaping around, almost doing somersaults while John's just,
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like, nursing his neck. And while he's playing Céline
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Dion, a referee comes into the room and informs our Canadian
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hero that the result is null and void.
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So Sador asks how I was, was it null and void?
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And the explanation is that the ring bell had gone before John
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had entered contest of which it was a four way and John was not
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the illegal participant in this contest.
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And on that point, discuss. All I'm going to say is a bunch
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of crap. John was in the match.
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Why did John get a Titan throne? Why is John come to the ring in
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ring gear? Why is he wrestling the over 4
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wrestlers in the match? It's a scramble match.
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John was in the match. Sidor won.
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I don't even care if Sidor's healed.
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Sidor got screwed. We are going to turn Sidor face
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by the end of this year. I guarantee you Peter Sidor is
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the people's hero. That might be one of the best
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promos I've seen this year, actually.
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And we've had it here, or as it is now become publicly
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acknowledged by a lot of people, the Stockport screw job.
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It was the Stockport screw job. So I've seen a few people
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actually post the the Stockport screwjob.
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Even the Z's position knowledge the term.
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I I would like to take credit for that because I I had posted
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it and but no one had actually seen me post out at the time,
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but I think everyone was on the same wavelength.
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Well, I saw your post and I said it because of yours.
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Yeah, I think everyone had the same idea.
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So it's got to be Canada referees.
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Yeah, it's it's a choice. But I what I will do is I will
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see where this goes. I will give them benefit of the
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doubt. It's on cage match so it's a
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legit win for Peter. I don't care what future shop
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management say. Cameron future shock strikes
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again. Yours, Cameron.
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Future shock your mark. It was.
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It was weird, though, this match it felt like there was a lot
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more to tell, like, because afterwards Aziz posted out like,
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you know, a video, like a fan edit of a him and essay, and
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they didn't really interact as much apart from that moment.
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You know, when Aziz with chanting easy, easy, easy.
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So it feels like because in the multi man matches, they like to
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set up future things, you know, like that's how the nay J and
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horde few started. That's how Pele, you know, got
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into a lot of Thunder. They like setting up future
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storylines that feel like that was one, especially because
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we've had easy, you know, team up with enemies of the McCarthy
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PC, and I feel like they didn't get to properly tell that.
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Another thing I want to point out, don't they just like
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putting Proctor in matches where he's not part of the storyline?
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Because it happened in the four way, a couple with Pele and it
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happened in that NAJ match where props is there.
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And it's like in between when he's just coming out of
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storylines because he's just finished Slambulance in the PC
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and now he's just been put in a random scramble match.
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It loves a scramble Match that lad.
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That's how you can look good. I am wondering if they're going
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to do something with John and Sidor moving forward possibly
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because I think possibly they may go that way.
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Again, it depends whether how the match, if that was how it
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was supposed to finish or if it was just a mistiming which can
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happen. But we, we were discussing on
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Monday about the the crowd a couple of times, got took out of
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the show a couple of times and this was one of them.
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But this was more confusion compared to 1 match we'll speak
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about later on. But yeah, it's there's a lot,
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there's a lot we still kind of like don't know what fully
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happened. Maybe this was the plan all
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along and it's just not gone to plan again.
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We'll as I say, I based on the last couple of months, I am
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happy to see if they can move this somehow because there has
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been one or two occasions A mishap has happened and they
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have retrieved it. So I I will give them the
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benefit, Squire. The only thing I can think of
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that they can do to resolve this is when Jensen Vesper comes back
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from France is they set up A tag team match with Jensen and Peter
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versus not John and then have Jensen and Peter pick up the win
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by like a DQ or something so they get a sort of tag team
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victory for Jensen and said. I have made this come.
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I actually said it to him at Salford on Friday.
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I'd love said or to win like the tag belts, but it'd be a case of
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he never ever pins anyone. It'd go to pin but it'd never
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win. So she did look at me kind of a
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bit weird. Just got how would I win the tag
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belts if I don't win and I had to explain.
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Oh, OK, that makes sense. That could be cool.
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Like, I can just imagine, like, you know how Oberman in his
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programme after winning the trophy tournament, being like, I
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need to find a friend. I could go after the tag belts.
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Yeah, Sidora and Obermann and Obermann get like gets the job
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done and Sidor just lumps on for the credit.
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I mean, it, it just feel like that the video of that person,
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that's the was it the goalie video where he saves all the
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penalties but doesn't particularly try and just
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constantly gets hit. It just be like Sidor being
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beaten up and then Olbermann had just come in at the last minute
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and just kind of do one move and win.
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Just puts the door on top. Be like we it'd be be a bit like
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weekend Weekend at Bernie's, but future shot.
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God, there's a reference. Well, they've referenced Weekend
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at Bernie's before. It was the Copper match.
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Remember they put a glasses on Brian.
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To be fair, I just love referencing old films and see if
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anyone actually gets the reference.
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We then come to the officially that is your interval.
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Unofficially we have one more match to go which was the
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unsanctioned match between Troy Ryan and the Monster Kong with
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Declan McCarthy, your future shock men's champion.
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He was doing well. I was going to say colour
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commentary. He was doing commentary at least
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with Isaiah Quinn as Lucy was pretty much told move out the
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way. So the notes I have.
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So we begin this match before the bell as Troy Ryan runs into
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the ring and Spears Kong. The two start this contest out
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on the outside. Kong is sent into the ring post
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and then we see Troy Ryan grabbing some weaponry, picking
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up a trash can twice. He nails Kong in the head with
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it, who does not flinch one bit. Orion is then shocked in half
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with a very stiff chop his clothesline to be hard wooden
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floor. Kong then brings his own
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weaponry into this match as he grabs a chain from under the
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ring. The match returns to the squared
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circle where Troy is choked them on to that trash can.
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Kong then sets a chair up in the corner, which effectively means
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he who sets anything up. You can pretty much bet who's
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going to take it. Congo then hits a beautiful fall
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away slam. Congo then whips Troy's back
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with the chain three times. Troy then wears the chain on his
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hands. I mean this thing have having
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taken chain off, his opponent begins to wear his rival down.
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Kong goes for another choke slam but that gets reversed into a
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cross face with the chain that Ryan has putting it across his
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mouth almost making him eat it all being like a bit on a horse.
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Just as it looks like the big man is fading, Kong gets a
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second wind, thumps the mat, and powers his way out, hitting a
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kind of like a white noise move. Deb McCarthy then leaves the
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commentary table, gets in the ring staring at both Troy and
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Kong puts the old Future Shock title down on the map between
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them, almost as if to say you can both fight for scraps.
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We then get a tug of war between the two.
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Kong prevails, proving that he is perhaps the stronger of two.
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However, having gained control of the belt, he tries to clock
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Troy in the head, but Ryan dodges.
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This results in Kong then ploughing into the chair as Ryan
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dodges out of the way. Ryan picks up the title belt,
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hits his foe with the belt before going on to hit the fall
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of Troy for the one, the two and the three in a time of roughly 9
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minutes and 32 seconds. After the match, it sees debt
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McCarthy, looking stone faced as ever, picks up the other title
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belt, which has the MCPC pretty much written on the title on a
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bit of kind of like wrist tape. He then throws a McCarthy
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Performance Centre shirt to Troy, tapping his forehead as if
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to say just think about it son, just think about it puts the
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belt on Kong shoulders and both Deck and Kong leave with Troy.
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Ryan wondering what on earth that was about and I suppose
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gives him some food for thought. Does he join the McCarthy
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Performance Centre or does he continue to be a phone in their
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side? I will go some on this one.
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Yeah, this match it was. If you just want to see two
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people beat the crap out of each other, you got what you came
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for. And bucket loads.
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I wish we would have been able to see it.
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But I like I like the detail now that the pictures have come out
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that Troy's wrist tape for this match had Kong written on his
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first. So I wish like, I love the
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opening spot where he just rushes in.
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That merely goes for him. But I would love if we could
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have gotten, you know, to see that at some point there wasn't
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any point where like these, there wasn't like a slowing down
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point. Apart from the submission hold,
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everything else, both men were moving for most of the action.
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It is interesting, you know, the ending, because originally I
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thought, oh, if Kong loses, you know, Deck's gonna, you know, do
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his, like, punishment. Pain is a lesson.
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But the McCarthy PC people keep losing, but there's no
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punishments. It just reminds me of Mr. Burns
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from The Simpsons, where he constantly says that he'll like,
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you know, Pierce the dagger through the heart, and then he
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never does. I will say two things, one
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quickly on the the wrist tape he had Kong on one and if anyone
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else noticed he had AD on the other side which would have been
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Anderson Daniels, which I did manage to catch a glimpse of
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that. So nice to see he still has his
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tag partner in his for in relation to kind of McCarthy
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performance. Centre losing officially does
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not go against him on the record because it's unsanctioned.
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So yes, still undefeated. Still undefeated.
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But I think what this was pretty much a case of was deck
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thinking, let's see how you go against our hired gun.
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If you can pretty much beat the crap out of Kong and you put in
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a good performance, then I might actually really want to have you
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on our team. And I think that's pretty much
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what this was. It was almost like a a trial, if
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you like from from Deck's side of we could do with Someone Like
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You actually on there. Not I mean, you've got Congo
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already, which is scary. But if you have someone with a
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bit more experience and knows how to win gold, it's not a bad
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shout. Having someone like Ryan on your
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team. I'll say that for you.
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I could see Condon Troy just absolutely folding Harvard Juice
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in half. It's an interesting possibility,
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so I guess. It is wild how on this show both
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McCarthy Performance Centre members lost, but technically
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both don't count. One wasn't sanctioned and one
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was later ruled. There's no contest.
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Meaning that's like, you know, stripped from the record.
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Well, I always think in like triple threat four way matches,
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if you're not the one getting pinned, you don't particularly
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lose the match. You're just there.
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I mean, technically you do count as a loss because you weren't
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the person that won the match. But at the same time, you
37:41
didn't. You weren't the one being
37:44
pinned. It's like half a loss.
37:46
It's half loss .5 of a loss, yeah.
37:49
It's it's .5 of a loss. Miles, what's your view on this
37:59
contest because I don't think I've asked you yet.
38:02
I thought it was a good little brown.
38:04
Nice to see Troy in a more violent match.
38:08
Getting to see the dangerous side of Troy, using weapons,
38:12
getting physical with the big man.
38:15
Kong really enjoyed the chain spots of art that looks thick.
38:21
The the one spot I'll pick up from the match because Troy put
38:27
it on his socials. That clothesline he took on the
38:30
outside, what a bump. You could hear it like the
38:37
thought of that floor. Troy's back landed on that
38:42
floor. It was just like an earthquake.
38:46
It it was a case of Lindsay that was that was sat with and she
38:51
went I want to talk that bomb, not on that, not on that wooden
38:54
floor. President, crack the floor.
38:59
Yes, that much humanity hitting that wooden floor.
39:04
It wouldn't be the first thing Troy broke.
39:09
But it's the one thing that I find interesting with shows at
39:15
times is when I am with Lindsay, who has trained at times is when
39:22
she will mention something to me.
39:25
And it's always interesting to kind of find the like the
39:29
wrestling of a train, a trainee view on things compared to
39:36
someone that just pretty much just talked about it instead of
39:40
actually doing anything, mainly because I'm too old and I'm
39:47
already wrecked as it is. We then actually came to the
39:53
interval try Ryan did the photos and then we came back with this
40:05
is one that's going to get some comments as well.
40:09
Solomon versus Naje notes as the bell rings, Solomon rushes at
40:21
Naje, both hit some early offence and is actually a very
40:28
quick opening few minutes between the two.
40:32
Naje using his speed, Solomon using his raw power.
40:38
We then get a second or a couple of seconds at least of Gorgon
40:45
coming on the screen. We here we'll talk about that in
40:50
a couple of minutes. We then have a masked man coming
40:55
out in a horde mask and it was not Sam because we actually saw
41:00
him sat next to Miles, so we knew it wasn't him.
41:05
Probably one of three people that actually owns a Horde mask
41:11
again over the miles and a little kid.
41:17
So this masked man comes out with a steel chair, gives it to
41:21
Solomon to try and use. Solomon does not want to use the
41:27
chair at all. He's almost felt like he's
41:30
trying to change his ways in recent times, so he kicks the
41:35
chair away a second time. Gorgon's video comes on,
41:42
distracting an AJ as Solomon knocks him off the top rope.
41:48
Solomon again gets told to use the seal chair, picks it up,
41:54
froze it over the top rope and just shakes his head.
41:58
Me, I'm not using it. Solomon then goes hit a razor's.
42:03
Edge. But he can't do it.
42:06
Najee drops, then hits a dropkick through the bottom row,
42:11
very similar to how Tom McCall does it.
42:16
We then have Najee hitting a Buff Blockbuster off Bret's
42:20
rope, followed by a Rough Rider by Najeez, Full Nelson slam by
42:29
Solomon and a Razor's Edge. We then get another clip of
42:37
Gorgon with this going on another six or seven times with
42:44
him basically just going Solomon, Solomon.
42:47
Solomon ends up with Solomon picking up the chair and
42:54
whacking an AJ back to get disqualified in a time of 11
43:00
minutes and 19 seconds. I will give my take, however I
43:07
will let the two lads discuss this so I will go with you
43:13
Miles. I'll jump on this.
43:15
So overall it was like a fairly decent match between the two,
43:23
but the the booking of what was going on with GOG and just made
43:28
no sense. The crowd were not behind that
43:32
at all. We just did not know what was
43:35
going on. And you've seen Solomon and Naje
43:38
mid match like they looked confused.
43:42
After like the third time we just looked confused.
43:46
We did not know what to do with the GOG and interference.
43:53
It just did not seem to fit with a match.
43:56
And the the masked toward member as well.
43:59
The I'm going to say new masked toward member.
44:03
It just seems like they're always getting new people for
44:06
the horde. Like literally every show,
44:09
there's always a new guy in a Horde mask showing up out of
44:12
nowhere. And I'm just like, you've done
44:16
it a bit too many Times Now where you get some new person in
44:21
a horde mask. And I think we figured out who
44:25
it might be potential. I said Aaron Shaw because of the
44:31
tattoo, but it's like I don't care.
44:35
I just don't care for it. It's it was a good match room by
44:42
Paul Bucking in my opinion. Sam.
44:48
I echo Miles's sentiments there, Grant.
44:54
Granted, I watched the match through a a Ward mask, so I'd so
45:01
while you were recapping it, I was like, oh, I didn't realise
45:05
that AJ ever hit a drop kick in this match.
45:10
And then, yeah, I feel like the idea is solid, but I feel like
45:22
it should have been done, like, once to say the match plays out
45:28
as normally at the whole member, you know, trying to interfere.
45:31
Like, NAJ goes to the top rope looking for the finish, and then
45:35
it happens and AJ is looking right at, you know, the screen.
45:40
I feel like it happens once like that.
45:43
And then Solomon capitalises. I feel like that's all you
45:46
needed to get the point across that Gorgon is still messing
45:52
with Naj's heads. And it's like this feud has been
45:58
going on for half a year already.
46:02
And I don't actually think these, like, correct me if I'm
46:07
wrong, but I don't think they've had an actual one-on-one match.
46:11
Yeah, there's always been some shenanigans or it's been A tag
46:16
match or he's faced like different members of the board.
46:20
And the last thing to comment on what Miles said, Gorgon has
46:25
already made an Instagram story saying that the next show, which
46:30
the whole gimmick is like the new comers versus the old
46:34
guards. He on his story he just posted a
46:39
new horde member like Dr applicants want.
46:45
It's like more Horde members. The tag team of Hayley calling
46:52
and Seraph is already called new horde.
46:55
Horde version 3 and there's actually four people with horde
47:00
masks because a second kid bought one at the end of this
47:05
show so there's two kids, me and miles there's there's 4 horde
47:11
masks that exist now in the. Ground.
47:15
So it could be you or Miles that's joining the Horde then?
47:19
I've not got a horde mask, What I mean I'll buy one if you want
47:23
me to. Yeah, everyone by whole mass.
47:26
We all stand up during like Gorgon's entrance and just
47:30
pretend to be in the Horde. I don't want to be in the horde.
47:36
I want to be like the hordes, lawyer their legal team, just
47:42
I'd. Rather be Declan McCarthy's
47:43
manager than be in the horde. Do you like the full Soul
47:47
Goodman routine? But we're defending Gorgon.
47:53
My take on it after the the show I said it was the worst match of
48:02
the card. However, having watched it back,
48:09
it wasn't as bad as it seemed on the day.
48:14
Yes. And I say that isn't.
48:17
Much. I say that because all I
48:22
remember mostly was the constant video flickering of Gorgon where
48:30
what should have happened was do it the first couple of minutes
48:37
to get in an AJ and then do it say middle of the match and then
48:44
do it at the end of the match. So about 3 times I actually
48:52
wrote how many times we saw that video play and it's pushing 10
49:04
and probably about three of three of them was a case.
49:12
It was probably a case of the last three being Gorgon just
49:15
going Solomon. The last one was a good 10
49:19
seconds of him just going Solomon Solomon Solomon Solomon.
49:24
Even that other video just paused and it once stopped
49:28
freezing. It kept playing, playing.
49:31
Like when you buy a cameo off of a celebrity that that only cares
49:37
like 30%. Like that was the Inflexion
49:41
Gordon was given. It wasn't like, you know,
49:43
angrily. We're just saying it the most
49:45
neutral way possible. But it's it's a thing of it's
49:52
like you said, in theory it sounds good.
49:59
In theory, communism works. However, the execution of this
50:08
possible plan was awful. They did not need to keep
50:15
playing every. You know how bad it was when the
50:19
crowd were constantly going? What is this?
50:22
What's it all about why they keep playing this thing?
50:26
I think there was two men. You didn't have to play it about
50:29
7 * I. Think it was the completely like
50:34
wrong venue to do it in because both because I think both
50:39
Fairfield and the Union, I know the union has it, but I'm not
50:43
sure. I think Fairfield might they
50:46
have like, you know, head Des and like if the whole idea was
50:51
like Gorgon is manipulating the lights, you know, he's making
50:56
them shine bright. It's like Naj can't see when
50:58
he's diving, you know, and he's I'm like if there was some other
51:03
videos, like if there was like it would randomly play Gorgon's
51:08
titantron. You know, if we randomly play
51:10
the clip on a botcher mania, Naj falling down the stairs atomic,
51:15
you know, if they just put like if you just did different things
51:20
with it and expanded on the basic idea, I think that could
51:26
have really worked. I feel like if you had this
51:28
match in the Union where you could, you know, have the lights
51:33
mess up, if you could have like playing, you know?
51:38
I mean. Noise like the map, like the
51:42
matches idea on a fundamental level works, I just think it
51:47
would have completely wrong venue to do it in because you
51:50
can't do anything in the Guild hall.
51:51
They have done this, they have done the lights thing at the
51:55
Guild hall, but it doesn't lead itself that well to it.
52:02
Again, the union would be the best place to kind of mess with
52:06
the lights and everything, but it was I think what it did the
52:12
constant video, I think it hurt the match a lot.
52:17
If you take away that whole video thing, they already had a
52:21
story in place of the masked man saying to Gorgon, sorry, saying
52:27
to Solomon, use this chair, use this chair.
52:31
We want you're part of the horde.
52:33
You do what we tell you to do and him saying I'm not doing it.
52:37
If they then played that last video of Gorgon saying Solomon
52:44
Solomon, then fair enough. That works because it's his
52:52
master basically saying I'm telling you to do this.
52:56
But it was just the overkill of that video being played.
53:03
Take all if you had two or three times with him going to AJ,
53:08
because by the time we got to the third time, both men had
53:12
effectively given up looking at the screen because it was almost
53:17
like right, we're we're fed up with this now, as with the
53:20
crowd. No one when it came on the
53:22
video, no one now was looking at the screen because they were fed
53:25
up of getting like about half a second and then just switching
53:31
back to the ring. So it was it was just a case of
53:37
poor, just poorness, which again on on the second look about the
53:44
matches, fine, but just how they did things around it just really
53:52
hurt that much. Especially coming back from the
53:55
interval, I think that's what killed the second-half is doing
54:02
that after a break. It just all the things from the
54:05
unsanctioned match which got the crowd back into it after the
54:11
scramble botch, you know, they just come like like a lead
54:15
balloon. Because it was it was almost the
54:19
crowd went down a bit after that scramble match because again,
54:24
confusion. Then you had the unsanctioned
54:28
match and it picked the crowd right up again.
54:32
And then how the went about with this match and it just fell off
54:36
another Cliff and it, it really did hurt.
54:39
The following match we'll talk about now, which was the well,
54:44
your penultimate match of the night was for the future Shock
54:49
Women's Championship, Lily Winter going up against the
54:54
champion Holly Barlow and the notes are as follows.
55:02
Winter tries to end things once the bell rings with a running
55:06
boot, but does not particularly go to plan.
55:11
Holly goes to do her lay down and kind of like pretty spot,
55:17
but Lily is having absolutely none of this.
55:21
She having none of Holly's shit in this.
55:25
Holland dies through the ropes to knock Lily flying.
55:32
Holly then looks to set up the Barlow Stunner but sees her
55:38
attempt thwarted when Winter hits a forearm smash and
55:44
catapults Holly's throat into the ring rope.
55:49
We see a very vicious Lily Winter in this contest.
55:55
The fans who we have chatted about off air with one shouting
56:05
for one Boeing Holly and the other being a Mad Holly fan
56:11
where we had one shouting you've got this hole and the other one
56:14
shouting no you haven't. To which it was quite humorous
56:20
the first couple of times but we'll we'll kind of leave that
56:25
there. Winter then counters yet another
56:30
Barlow stunner attempt. She catches the champion and
56:35
hits a fall away slam. Barlow fires back but Winter
56:41
sees into the future and does a Martinez from United on Monday
56:46
night, pulling of the hair back of Barlow.
56:53
Barlow then reverses. AI think she goes to do a back
56:58
suplex and reverses in mid-day at mid air even to land on the
57:03
challenger. Holly attempts again for a
57:07
Barlow stunner but sees Lily's counter into a back suplex.
57:14
We have the champion then fires back soon lands a beautiful code
57:20
breaker which draws a near fall. Lily hits a kind of jawbreaker
57:27
slash stunner as Holly's on the top row and Lily is on the ring
57:33
apron and kind of just falls to a backside on the ringgit and
57:36
pulling her head down. Winter then hits a running
57:41
powerbomb when she gets back in and draws a very long 2 counts.
57:48
Holly tries again to hit the Barlow stunner and cannot do it.
57:54
Lily reverses a move and at the count of 2 has the ropes
58:00
tantalisingly in front of her and grabs it where if she hadn't
58:05
grabbed it we would probably now be sat here with a new champion
58:10
as the referee. Carter Winter then goes to the
58:14
turnbuckle pad again, rips it off, tries to act all innocent
58:21
despite the fact we can clearly see it's in a hand, tries to
58:25
cover it up telling Liam I haven't got it, I haven't got it
58:30
and then dumps it to the outside.
58:35
We then have Holly hitting a Death Valley Driver followed by
58:42
a elbow drop, both of which draw 2 counts.
58:49
Lily avoids another Barlow stunner attempt, hits the
58:53
frostbite for 2A. Winter comes rushing in at Holly
58:59
who sidesteps and Lily hits the exposed ring turnbuckle and
59:06
finally sees Holly hitting the Barlow stunner for probably the
59:10
sixth or seventh attempt in this contest and makes a 6th
59:15
successful title defence of her title in a time of 8 minutes and
59:22
16 seconds. Sam, I come to you first and
59:29
then Miles. This match, it's, it's hard to
59:37
say because I think the main problem that I've had with
59:42
Holly's title reign is that it's repetitive a lot because this
59:50
is, I believe, the third one-on-one match between Lily
59:58
and Holly and then. They also had a match with Lucy
1:00:02
Skye in a triple threat, so I believe that's half of Holly's
1:00:10
defences because I think the first match is when Holly won
1:00:13
the title off of Lily. So out of the matches, Holly's
1:00:18
hands with the title, the majority of them have been
1:00:22
against Lily Wint in some fashion, and this was definitely
1:00:28
the weakest. I do think, you know, the
1:00:32
crowds, you know, state did have something to tie into that
1:00:37
because everyone just wanted to see, you know, some Oh my God,
1:00:48
wrestling. And then to have a match that we
1:00:51
have been seeing constantly for nearly a whole year that, you
1:00:57
know, sort of sunk the ship for this show into the water.
1:01:03
I feel like I have in my notes here, I rated all of the matches
1:01:10
out of 10. This by far got the lowest one
1:01:15
for me. They're the only one to drop
1:01:19
into below 5 out of 10 because when they were trying to recall
1:01:26
what happens, the only spot I can remember is the turnbuckle
1:01:29
spot. And we had just seen pretty much
1:01:35
nearly near enough the same spot in the unsanctioned match with
1:01:38
Kong in the chair. But it's like they set up, then
1:01:41
they go through it after they run directly at their opponent.
1:01:47
So yeah, I and both of them, they can do a much better match.
1:01:55
I know it's a different episode that you're going to do, but the
1:01:59
next night they proved that they can have a much better back and
1:02:03
forth at catch. So I know it's not on, you know
1:02:11
them as chemistry because they do have chemistry.
1:02:14
It's just not the night. Miles.
1:02:20
Yeah, I'll agree. I thought it was decent match,
1:02:24
but it's like it's what we've seen before between these two
1:02:28
winners singles match I it's all the same moves.
1:02:33
The Lily was coming up with a few different moves in this
1:02:36
match. I did enjoy like the sort of
1:02:39
like the assisted DDT, sort of like neckbreaker on the top, but
1:02:45
over the night it was like how many times can you try hit your
1:02:50
finishing move in one match and then reverse it And the
1:02:55
turnbuckle spot having a face when with like a heel move, like
1:03:05
accidentally, sort of like I wouldn't have had that as the
1:03:11
ending like a face winning with like a exposed turnbuckle just
1:03:16
didn't seem to fit right with Holly's character in future
1:03:21
shock. It just doesn't seem like that
1:03:25
should have been the ending because Holly's the clear baby
1:03:27
face so having the heel lose, so like a heel spot just probably
1:03:37
not the right ending. I would have had Lily go over in
1:03:40
this match and become champion. So looking at the title defences
1:03:50
for Holly, since winning the title back in June, she faced
1:03:59
Lily Winter at the Fairfield Social Club when they were Mario
1:04:05
and Luigi. So almost a call back to to
1:04:08
that. Her second title defence was
1:04:13
against Lucy Sky, third was against Harley Hudson at the
1:04:20
Fairfield at attitude error 2.0. Then we had the match against
1:04:29
Lilly Winter and Lucy Sky, so almost the same. 2.
1:04:36
Saxo at the Guildhall back in February and then you had Winter
1:04:44
for the third time on Sunday. It does.
1:04:55
It does feel a case at the moment of it's going back to how
1:05:01
it was last year and a couple of months ago where it seems to be
1:05:08
the same people either challenging or there's not much
1:05:18
of a variety in terms of like female talent challenging.
1:05:25
It seems to be the same ones where I'll have to double check
1:05:30
this. Just looking for Lily Winters
1:05:35
kind of reversal. Oh, sorry.
1:05:38
If you look at I'm looking now at Lily Winter, her title
1:05:42
defences were against Helen, Charlotte Campbell, Lucy Sky,
1:05:48
Violet Night, Lana Austin, Lizzie Evo, Eve Bateman and then
1:05:55
lost the title to Holly. So effectively different
1:06:01
challenges all the way till or even winning the title of Ali
1:06:10
Hudson. So effectively she had eight
1:06:12
different matches, whereas Holly's reign has been the same
1:06:18
ones against Lucy or it's been Lily again.
1:06:24
It could depend on availability. If people can kind of like make
1:06:32
it to the northwest. I don't know.
1:06:38
It's it just feels like the going back again in the old ways
1:06:43
of the don't have many different female challenges, which is
1:06:49
disappointing and feels very much of why I was so angry.
1:06:53
Like the Haze title reign where there was no nothing at all,
1:07:00
just no ever like storylines and to be fact, I don't think we've
1:07:07
actually had a storyline with Holly as champion unless I'm.
1:07:14
No, unless I don't recall anything.
1:07:18
Because every offer the adrenaline title, you had
1:07:21
Olbermann what you always had and like right was chasing or
1:07:27
you'd have like little kind of things that went off the men's.
1:07:39
I'm going to I've said this before, up until McCarthy
1:07:43
winning who I think he's done a brilliant job since winning it,
1:07:49
the last decent kind of champion you had was probably Blazer in
1:08:00
terms of what the men's champion.
1:08:02
That was 2023, wasn't it? Probably up to 20.
1:08:09
Would it be the end of 2020? 4 Because you had Oberman who
1:08:18
had won the tournament and was going to face Blazer, so you had
1:08:22
a bit of a storyline at least. Then you had Egan, who put his
1:08:26
career on the line to face Blazer, so you have a bit of a
1:08:31
storyline. Then you had Riley, who won the
1:08:35
title at the the Anniversary show, I believe.
1:08:41
And then Riley won the title and what should have effectively
1:08:49
been like the rocket on his back and propel Riley up there
1:08:54
because he was one of the best kind of like heels.
1:08:58
Future Shot had no idea what's going on there and.
1:09:07
Connor Patrick Riley. The last we heard of him was
1:09:10
when was in when he hired the meat waggon.
1:09:14
Yeah, using fake money. And then he just disappeared.
1:09:19
Disappeared. Where's he getting booked now?
1:09:23
Salford's used him a lot, so he's one of their, he's not the
1:09:28
big heel, but he's he's one of their main kind of like heels at
1:09:32
the moment. But again, the men's title
1:09:39
suffered a lot and now it's finally getting back on track
1:09:43
with Deck, who's doing different things.
1:09:47
And it's actually interesting and it makes you think, right, I
1:09:53
can't wait till the next show because I want to know how this
1:09:56
is going to go. I do like how with Declan is
1:10:02
he's gone about it in a different way where isn't isn't
1:10:07
stories about the title like that in the best way possible.
1:10:12
The titles in after port in the stories, because it's mainly
1:10:17
about him looking for respect in a way, because like in just the
1:10:25
four months he's had it, he's had storylines with Slam
1:10:32
Proctor. McGinn, Ryan Lally going into
1:10:37
it, yeah. That they've they had this story
1:10:40
there about that which is mad that the only storyline Holly
1:10:45
has had apart from the one promo with Lucy Sky where the name
1:10:53
dropped to the nickname the crowd they've come up from
1:10:57
Holly's the only storyline since when the title has been with
1:11:01
Declan McCarthy and feuding about should future shock be
1:11:06
silly or serious. Well, the last I'm trying to
1:11:13
think of the last big women's storyline was probably Holly
1:11:20
going for the number one contendership when she beat
1:11:23
Lizzie Evo. That's probably the main
1:11:27
storyline I can think of from A from the women's.
1:11:31
Perspective. Yeah.
1:11:33
Holly returning like. Before that in.
1:11:38
Early in early 2025, yeah. So I think it's been like a
1:11:43
whole year without a proper women's storyline.
1:11:46
Which is because it was the only, as I say, storyline I can
1:11:50
think of was Holly wanting to challenge for women's title.
1:11:56
And then Lily said you'll have to prove yourself against the
1:11:59
challenger, which was Lizzie ever, which saw her become the
1:12:03
number one contender. So that's a vague kind of
1:12:09
storyline. And then before that was Holly
1:12:12
and Lana when Holly returned and kind of wanted to gain revenge
1:12:21
over Lana, who kind of took her out originally if you wanted to
1:12:29
go off technically like a story. And then before that was Leah
1:12:33
Raven and Lana Austin, which saw their culmination of their two
1:12:38
out free falls match, which is a couple of years ago.
1:12:43
So. It does sort of clear, like with
1:12:45
the women's division, that they're almost spinning plates
1:12:49
because I have, I've said this idea to Miles.
1:12:53
I believe their current vision is to have Lana and Holly
1:13:00
anniversary, so it does feel like the spin plates.
1:13:04
I mean it can't. My belief in it is kind of
1:13:09
wavered a little today actually because they did drop a Lily
1:13:14
Winter promo. Problem is I couldn't hear some
1:13:18
of it because. It wasn't the best Lily.
1:13:21
Turns away from the mic it. Wasn't easy.
1:13:27
It wasn't even that. It was the fact that it's in a
1:13:29
big massive room and if you're shouting in the big massive
1:13:34
room, it's going to reverberate and you can't understand.
1:13:40
So it might have been better to not done it in a big room.
1:13:43
Well, did it next to a curtain so that the curtain absorbs the
1:13:48
volume because like fabric it like you know.
1:13:51
Traps. The audio waves, like the
1:13:54
vibrations, but so yeah, I do feel like that's their current
1:14:01
vision because if there aren't spinning plates at the moment,
1:14:05
it's just weeds. How you'd give a storyline to
1:14:08
each division and not the women? 'S because I'll end with this.
1:14:20
It's It wasn't I, it was a. It was a fair match, I thought.
1:14:26
I thought it was Lily's best showing in in future shop, not
1:14:32
as a champion. It made her look vicious, but
1:14:37
the problem is now she's had three chances and not one.
1:14:45
And you can't keep putting Lily in picture, and also you can't
1:14:52
just put Lucy in again because it's got to be the same thing.
1:14:58
It's almost like you have to bring someone else in.
1:15:04
But there's at the moment there's no real credible
1:15:09
challenges. So I mean this one name I can
1:15:14
think of which I've already mentioned, but whether they
1:15:18
return we don't know. And we now come to our main
1:15:27
events of the show, which was FTM finely tuned machines in Tom
1:15:36
McCall and Critchie taking on the Champions, the 05 in Dec
1:15:43
Henry and Harvey Dukes, the notes of which I have
1:15:49
unfortunately written plenty. So the former champions come out
1:15:57
to technically home field advantage, and I say home field
1:16:03
advantage because they are right by the River Mersey as that
1:16:10
flows through support. If you didn't know, however, the
1:16:14
crowd are right behind Mario and Luigi, which is Dukes and Henry
1:16:20
dressed as the two Nintendo characters.
1:16:25
Say that we might get sued. We get into the match and we see
1:16:30
Critchie dragging out Dukes. Henry then dives at Critchie.
1:16:37
Tom McCall does his usual kind of diving through the ropes,
1:16:42
feet first, knocking Henry. Let me see Harvey Dukes leaping
1:16:49
over the top rope like a salmon out water taking out FTM.
1:16:57
I'll come to this point at the end actually.
1:17:02
We then have the Champions having the early advantage.
1:17:07
Richie. Richard Critchie is going
1:17:09
absolutely mental at this point, shouting at the crowd, giving
1:17:15
him both barrels. We then around the five minute
1:17:21
mark see AI can't say it's an injury as such, but it is
1:17:29
something that's clearly noticeable and we were watching
1:17:35
it just before we started recording where it saw Tom
1:17:40
throwing Henry into the ring ropes.
1:17:45
Bounces off the ropes, Critchie drops down and Henry has no room
1:17:52
to hop over. Ends up being tripped and as he
1:17:58
falls, Tom I think is trying to kick him in the ribs.
1:18:04
However, Henry's already going down and gets a very sore one to
1:18:14
the shin. Did someone put their hand up?
1:18:23
Something came on the screen, looked like a hand, so I wasn't
1:18:26
too sure. So at this point it sees Tom
1:18:30
grabbing his shin ankle, to which we didn't know at the time
1:18:37
which part it was. It was just his leg.
1:18:40
He's clearly in a lot of pain and bit of distress.
1:18:47
McCall is an absolute warrior in this match, it has to be said.
1:18:53
He battles on for the rest of this match, but they are clearly
1:18:59
working around Tom. It feels Critch is the more
1:19:04
mobile of the two. They do really well to kind of
1:19:10
work. Very short tags FTM trying to
1:19:14
mask the problem deck. Henry then gets tagged in and
1:19:19
sees him hitting a beautiful springboard back elbow on FTM.
1:19:27
Then a spinning DDT by Henry is followed up by a frog splash by
1:19:33
Harvey Dukes which draws A2 count FTM then go for their
1:19:38
tandem move which I cannot remember what it is called.
1:19:44
I want to say it's a Liverpool reference and I cannot remember
1:19:50
what it's called. But anyway Henry dodges out the
1:19:55
way, hits a stunner. Henry then goes to a moon salt
1:20:00
to the outside and is successful.
1:20:04
We then have the kind of. Rolling cannonball off the top
1:20:09
rope and off the shoulders of Dukes down onto McCall for a 2
1:20:19
count. FTM go to do their finisher
1:20:23
again. Dukes ducks and Tom takes out
1:20:27
Reese for a ref. Pump and shenanigans follows as
1:20:33
Critchie goes to get the tag titles, gives Tom one of the
1:20:39
belts as he goes to hit Harvey, misses.
1:20:44
Critchie then gets the belt and has Tom McCall crawling behind
1:20:50
Dekendry in low blowing him. Critchie then uses the belt on
1:20:55
him. They hit their double team
1:20:58
finisher. They then drag Reese into
1:21:02
position. Position gets a 2 count and has
1:21:07
the entire room explode because everyone thought that would be
1:21:10
it. A double super kick from the 05
1:21:17
ends with an assisted spinning stunner for the 123A successful
1:21:26
title defence for the 05 in a time of roughly 18 minutes and
1:21:33
20 seconds. Who would like to come into this
1:21:39
first? I'll go.
1:21:43
Even though we've seen this match a couple Times Now in
1:21:45
Future Shock, I feel like this was probably the strongest match
1:21:49
they've had between each of us. Hopefully it's the last time
1:21:53
they do it because I think they've had like 5 matches now,
1:21:57
Four matches now because he had the 10 minute challenge.
1:22:00
They've had two title defences against them and I think they've
1:22:04
had like another match so it might be the 4th time they've
1:22:07
faced each other. I will say because I haven't
1:22:12
wrote it down after the match, it saw Tom McCall picking or
1:22:18
taking the tag title belts off Krichie draping them over the
1:22:24
shoulders of the O 5 and ended up with FTM going their separate
1:22:31
ways to the back as Critchie was not happy with Tom's effectively
1:22:40
showing sportsmanship. If you like.
1:22:42
He went through the curtain, Tom went through the side entrance.
1:22:50
So I'm interested now whether they are looking to.
1:22:54
Split. FTM up at future shock or if
1:22:59
they're going to just say this was like a one time thing.
1:23:05
But to your point, they can't keep having these two facing
1:23:13
each other. Yeah, they can't.
1:23:15
They do, they do need to find like other tag teams to which
1:23:22
there are a few tag teams in future shock, which we have kind
1:23:28
of wrote down. So there, there are a few.
1:23:31
It's not like a barrel scraping. But I, I did make the, I think
1:23:40
we both did beforehand talk about of all the matches on the
1:23:48
card that we were particularly looking forward to, purely on
1:23:55
repetitiveness, this was the one match that we kind of went into,
1:24:01
went into it thinking, oh, not again.
1:24:04
We've we've seen this too many Times Now.
1:24:08
However, this is by far the best match they have had together.
1:24:16
Yeah. They worked really well even
1:24:19
with Tom's injury, I thought. Yeah.
1:24:21
They did a great job. It's because to pick up and I
1:24:26
don't know if he's if he's posted anything to say he's OK
1:24:30
or if anything's been mentioned, but I can't stress how much he
1:24:39
was in distress in this match. The referee went up to him and
1:24:44
said are you OK? I.
1:24:48
Think he said he wasn't that good but he could still go,
1:24:53
which effectively seems to be the wrestling mind of as long as
1:24:59
you're still able to draw breath, you can carry on.
1:25:05
And he powered on in this contest and the amount of abuse
1:25:10
that one leg took when it might have been a better option to try
1:25:16
and use like the other leg for moves.
1:25:20
It always seemed to be the injured one and then right at
1:25:24
the end, leaping off the top row to avoid the O fives and coming
1:25:29
down on that leg. Well, it's not the the brightest
1:25:33
of moves, it has to be said. But I've I've got to give
1:25:39
massive, massive credit to Tom and effectively everyone in this
1:25:44
match to that worked around it because even with the injury,
1:25:50
they did a superb job. And if anything, that might have
1:25:55
been a blessing in disguise, if that's a weird thing to say, but
1:26:00
it could have been. Yeah, Samuel.
1:26:06
Yeah so I really liked this match.
1:26:11
You know as you've said even with the injury I do think it's
1:26:14
their best. I did while you was going over
1:26:19
you know your thoughts. I did look on cage match in any
1:26:23
competitions the O 5 and FTM have met 9 times but only 5 have
1:26:31
been straight tag matches. The other four have been multi
1:26:35
man, either four way matches or general teams facing each other.
1:26:42
So yeah, I do think it is time. And Tom McCall, he hasn't said
1:26:47
the post but three hours ago on Instagram it was announced at
1:26:55
the Irish Cent, the Liverpool Irish centre.
1:26:58
This Saturday he will be fighting Dec Henry in a singles
1:27:02
match at crack. Is that how you pronounce it?
1:27:07
Down. Crackdown.
1:27:09
Yeah, the Irish, the Irish version of saying crap father
1:27:14
crack so. It seems like he will be fine
1:27:18
because I doubt who he would have announced he'd be wrestling
1:27:22
this Saturday if he wasn't. So I believe it was just a full
1:27:27
muscle, but that would. That's good.
1:27:30
Yeah. It's kind of funny that they're
1:27:32
meeting on singles after just facing each other, especially
1:27:37
because I think it was Deck Henry it.
1:27:41
Was it was Henry that ran into poor Tom?
1:27:46
Yeah. So once on the.
1:27:50
Topic of like, you know, other teams.
1:27:53
I'd just like to remind people mind the glaze have still not
1:27:57
got their their number one beating the O 5.
1:28:03
They beat the current champions and still haven't got their
1:28:06
title match. I don't think they're coming
1:28:08
back. I think it was a one-on-one.
1:28:10
I'm still adamant they should do some tag tournament because they
1:28:15
have enough teams. Like they've got the Hordes,
1:28:18
Slambulence, the Tevlins, Congen, Aziz Jensen and Sedor
1:28:25
Jensen's door. The Zuba weights could come
1:28:28
back. Gem one.
1:28:29
There's the story with if they lose another match, you know, So
1:28:34
I do think at some point there should be A tag tournament.
1:28:41
Another tag team I would throw into the the mix that has a
1:28:45
actual winning record is Lee Dawson and Romy Kundrick.
1:28:54
And you've got across the North as well.
1:28:56
Yeah, or you have Northwest Strong technically Gymnasium
1:29:05
alpha, which I do not think we will see for a long, long time.
1:29:11
I'm just looking else you've also got oh, Nae John, Nae John.
1:29:19
Not John. Yeah, Yeah.
1:29:24
The models, if they can put their differences to one side.
1:29:28
Can they coexist? Yeah, be be an interesting way
1:29:34
to go like. After this show we are going to
1:29:39
see a fresh rivalry for the 05. I do believe we'll probably be
1:29:45
Northwest strong because they're like the biggest feels apart
1:29:49
from the MacArthur PC. Meals.
1:29:54
I enjoyed really annoying Richie in this match with the first
1:30:00
shunt of the match the fine we tuned Muppets Critch he was.
1:30:04
I really enjoyed Annoying Critchie and then Count in
1:30:07
Everton, even though I suppose Liverpool.
1:30:10
I was going to. Really really funny just getting
1:30:12
into Critch. He's out and just annoying him
1:30:15
to pay back for all the times he's annoyed me just being
1:30:20
critchy. It was the case of.
1:30:24
It was the most run. I completely forgot where I was
1:30:29
because the amount of times we had Everton chants, I thought
1:30:33
Oberman had piped in like Everton chants into like the
1:30:37
Guild Hall. It's like I know that Everton's
1:30:41
ground is now the the new quiz question of which football
1:30:46
ground is nearest the Mersey and instead of Stockport it's now
1:30:50
Everton. I know the River Mersey's nearby
1:30:53
to the Guild Hall and maybe that's why Everton chance was
1:30:58
starting up. But there was one particular
1:31:03
moment in that match which was I'd made reference to of when
1:31:11
McCall suffers his kind of like knock to his leg.
1:31:18
You have the injury and then McCall clutching his leg in
1:31:23
absolute agony, pain etched on his face and a kid on the end of
1:31:28
the row is quite loudly on my video clip shouting up the
1:31:34
Toffees. I mean, it's not the most
1:31:41
appropriate time to actually come out with an Everton chant
1:31:45
when someone's injured. Now saying that Lindsay did
1:31:49
enjoy having so many Everton chants because she isn't
1:31:55
Evertonian. So she, she, it's one of the
1:32:00
rare songs I think she's actually joined in with a chant.
1:32:05
But yeah, that was it was very bizarre to hear so many Everton
1:32:10
chants. I just did it because it was
1:32:13
funny. I don't even like Everton, It's
1:32:15
just funny just to annoy Crunchy.
1:32:19
I mean, I've been to a fair few Liverpool shows now and I've
1:32:22
never heard Everton chance even even no one's badmouth like
1:32:29
Olbermann if he's come out in an Everton top.
1:32:34
I think I've heard from. I think I've heard far more
1:32:37
Everton references at Future Shop than like on a Liverpool
1:32:44
show to which there was one title defence that I seem to
1:32:50
recall Oberman having. And I think it was at the time
1:32:55
when Everton was above United in the table and they'd announced
1:33:01
Oberman from Liverpool. And I think it was Greenwood
1:33:05
that was doing the announcing at the time.
1:33:07
And he stopped him and then he asked him to re kind of like
1:33:12
reintroduce him. And he said from Everton.
1:33:17
And I just just put his thumb up with a big massive smile looking
1:33:22
up at like where all the wrestlers were.
1:33:26
And it didn't draw a Boo when it was Liverpool, it was a Boo.
1:33:32
And what was Everton just like? OK.
1:33:37
The enemy of my enemies, My friends.
1:33:43
Just just so weird. But, well, that's what happens
1:33:48
at Future Shock. Yeah, you get.
1:33:52
You never know what to expect on a future shock show, which is
1:33:56
kind of one of the reasons we go.
1:33:58
Yeah. Has anyone got any other
1:34:04
thoughts while I try find the the next future shock show?
1:34:10
I enjoyed the post match stuff between Krichi and Tom.
1:34:12
I feel like they need they need to split FTM up now.
1:34:18
In future shock and yeah. It's been a while, they've been
1:34:23
talking for a while in Future Shock, but feel like if we split
1:34:26
them together and that gives them the opportunity to bring
1:34:29
the third member of FTM in Liam Carr and sort of have Tritchy
1:34:34
and Liam as heel and then Thomas face.
1:34:38
And then you can sort of like add a few different matches to
1:34:41
that. You could start off with like a
1:34:43
handicap match, you could have Tritchy and Liam versus Tom in
1:34:46
it like a handicap match, and then have Critchie and William
1:34:51
go over Tom and then maybe going to like A tag match where Tom
1:34:56
finds a new friend in Future Shock, sort of.
1:34:58
He goes looking for a new tag team partner and then have him
1:35:02
tag with Josh easy because Josh is another fellow Scouser.
1:35:05
Josh is facing Future Shock, so then you can have Tom and Josh
1:35:09
against Critchie and Liam, which will make for some pretty
1:35:13
interesting matches I feel like because there is a lot of Scouse
1:35:17
wrestlers in Future Shock, so it's an opportunity to bring in
1:35:21
Liam Carr I think. And if you don't know Liam Carr,
1:35:25
he would fit nicely into Future Shock.
1:35:29
I've just looked because you said they've been tagging for a
1:35:31
while. December 2023 has been how long
1:35:36
FDM been tagging in Future Shock?
1:35:38
Future Shock was their first promotion, according to Cage
1:35:41
Match, that housed FTM, so it's. Probably false, probably done
1:35:50
shows before future shot, but. Apparently it was against the
1:35:54
models on Part 2 of the Trophy tournament that year.
1:36:01
Yes, so they've tagged for a couple of years in future shot
1:36:04
now so. Has anyone got anything they
1:36:09
would like to plug? Looking at you, Sam.
1:36:13
Yeah, please go and check out rambling about wrestling.
1:36:17
Because of people's support I got access to the Instagram and
1:36:21
friends accounts so let's keep pushing it.
1:36:25
One day I might be able to post on the TikTok if Jack will let
1:36:32
me and make sure my videos get used because he still holds it
1:36:37
above me that I haven't got in a video more successful than his
1:36:40
Jersey Cup predictions. So thank you for supporting and
1:36:45
thank you for having me here. You know, it's really fun to,
1:36:48
you know, talk wrestling. I love it.
1:36:51
Always a joy to have yourself, just not Ben.
1:36:57
So. Oh, have you got anything,
1:36:59
Miles? I know you're going to say no,
1:37:01
but I'll ask anyway. No idea it's been it's been a
1:37:09
long podcast. It hasn't been that long, but.
1:37:13
It feels like it's been a long podcast.
1:37:15
Yes, it has. Just make sure if you've never
1:37:20
been to a Future Shop show before, just check them out.
1:37:23
You might. You might become a new Future
1:37:25
Shop faithful. Yeah, for me it's brothers
1:37:30
grappas. You'll put all the socials down
1:37:35
underneath. It's going to be much more
1:37:39
easier to do, pretty much because I can never remember
1:37:42
what my handles are because I am that old.
1:37:47
But for now at least, thank you very much for watching or
1:37:53
listening, and we bid you good night.