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Talking with Six Year-Olds About Abortion · The Wes Carroll Morning Show

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You're listening to the West Carrol Morning Show. Thursday morning, fifteenth day
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of February. I'm Wes, thanks for joining me. Side Ho Day.
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It's what they call it on the street. It's the day after Valentine's Day
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when all the candy and the flowers and everything are discount priced. It's supposedly
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for your person on the side. That's why they call it that. I
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didn't make it up. I didn't make your side Peace Day. That's the
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more a little cruiter, isn't it. I know it's really anyway, that's
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what they call it. The fifteenth day of February. I want to talk
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to you a little bit about Let's see, we had this election that just
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took place as Democrats now gained a seat in the House, the Santos seat
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special election done and Republicans lost the seat. Now they were quick to escort
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Santos out. I'm not going to defend him at all. I heard a
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number of people refer to him as a fraud. It's probably accurate. You
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know, I don't know them. I don't know the guy. Based on
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what I've heard which is what you've heard. That seems like a fair assessment,
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right, But Republicans quick to usher him out and then call for this,
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ultimately, this special election to come along. And now they have lost
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a seat, they've got even less wiggle room than they had before, which
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wasn't a lot with control of the House. What is interesting about this particular
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special election is that it's Mazi Pillop who represented Republicans. Tom's swozy even how
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to say his name, was the Democrat who won and served in Congress before
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and I guess now sworn in or whatever, So we're at this position or
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to be sworn in maybe today. What seems to be the focus of this
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particular election that led to this loss of a seat for Republicans by all indications,
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would be abortion. And this is New York's third congressional district. Now
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I understand New York. Now this particular district. Obviously, with Santos in
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there, you know there is a possibility a voting Republican there, But we
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have to, you know, put that qualifier in there that we're talking about
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New York. So maybe not a giant shock that maybe abortion could be something
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that could become a significant enough issue there. Philip was also someone who did
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not talk a lot about Trump, didn't endorse him, didn't have his support.
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There's some questions about whether that may have been the problem. It is
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interesting that Republicans did not choose to let Santos finish out the term and then
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you know, primary him out. That's kind of the interesting part of all
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of this and give time to try. But again, you're talking about a
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party that you hope they're at least trying to do the right thing, that
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they're at least trying to have that bit of integrity and get rid of someone
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who, you know, I'll throw the word out there, get people say
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as a fraud. So they did it, and now they've lost a seat.
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And what is the most interesting part of all of this. I mean,
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we've talked about this on the show. Publicans don't tend to congeal very
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well. They don't tend to stick together very well unless it's about, you
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know, a beer brand for some reason that becomes a focus, or when
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they all say we're going to all buy a chicken sandwich because someone got upset
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about Chick fil A. There tends to be a congealing that happens then right
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so, and Democrats they do that very well, I think, to the
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point of what should be their detriment. But it's not. For some reason.
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They can push as far to the left as they want to. People
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don't have to even believe it. They'll just stick together. They'll say,
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hey, this is where we're at with it. And proof of that comes
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in this abortion issue. You know, when you've got a sitting president of
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the United States who's a devout Catholic, a Christian faith that does not support
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abortion, does not allow it, very strict on birth control in general.
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But we know that there have been a number of things over the years that
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many churches. I'm not just going to pick on the Catholic Church, many
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churches have changed their position on things because you know, they don't want to
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lose congregation, they don't want to be seen as hateful, they don't want
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to push people outside of the church. They don't want to do that.
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So you know, they kind of a little more flexible with some of these
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rules that have stood, you know, for thousands of years. So I
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mean, I'm just calling it like it is, so we know that that's
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proof. I think that you don't have to necessarily believe it to politically go
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for it. I don't know. In some cases I think they do,
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which is kind of what I mean. This seems to be like it's going
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to be the issue. That's what Democrats are putting all of their eggs in
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that basket pun intended. They are going going full full on into the paint.
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This is what they want, This is what they think is going to
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decide all of the elections when it comes to November. This is where they
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think every bit of the focus has to be. We've talked at great length
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about the fact that some Republicans have stepped up and said, hey, look,
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we can come up with a compromise right now on abortion. Right now,
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we can say twelve weeks, sixteen weeks, whatever we agree on,
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shake hands and put this issue to bed. Let's get it to a point
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where it can become a national law, and let's move on. Democrats say,
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ah, we can't do that. We want freedom to do whatever we
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want to do, while also saying that people are putting themselves in jeopardy,
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they're putting their lives in jeopardy because they can't get the proper healthcare. Women
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can't get health care that they need, that they had since Roe v.
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Wade was put into place, and they've lost it, and they'd rather let
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those women suffer, I guess, than come up with this compromise while also
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saying that they don't really want anything that would last any extreme amount of time.
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They don't want third trimester abortions, they say, at least in front
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of the cameras, and then you know, in other places they say otherwise.
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I would argue that it says a lot about what they do want versus
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what they say they want when they won't sit down and discuss twenty weeks or
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sixteen weeks or twelve weeks or whatever it is. They like the fact that
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they feel like you got some states that are making it really really difficult for
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women to get an abortion. They seem to enjoy that, and they think
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that's going to be the telling point because a state like Georgia that has very
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strict abortion laws since it became a state's issue, and they think, oh,
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it's another big swing state. We're going to be able to make this
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happen. We're going to make this happen in Georgia, rather than you know,
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looking out for those women that they're talking about that, they're saying,
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ah, they're having to do some really questionable things and harming their bodies permanently,
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harming themselves and putting themselves in jeopardy. So a couple quick thoughts on
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the subject of women harming themselves permanently. I mean, maybe you see where
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this is going. But when it comes to young children being told that they
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can start altering their ultimately their DNA, right, that's what they're trying to
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do. It's not really changing their DNA, but let's change their hormones.
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Let's start cutting up their bodies. If they want to be a man,
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they want to live as a man, and they make that decision when they're
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I don't know, we'll just say six years old for the purposes of today's
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show. We'll just say what if they make that decision at six years old?
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Some people think six year olds should be able to make that decision.
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Some people got really upset when states like Florida and Georgia just say we're not
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going to let six year olds go to school and be taught about these things.
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We're not going to let six year olds sit in a classroom and be
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told that they should. You know, if they feel like, if you're
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a boy and you feel like you're a girl, you should, you know,
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start becoming a girl and we don't have to tell your parents about it,
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and you can just start going to the other bathroom or whatever you want
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to do. And you know, governors, conservative governors said, we're not
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going to do this in our states. We don't this should not be discussed.
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We don't talk about sex ed below third grade anyway. So why should
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any of this be discussed with six year olds or seven year olds or eight
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year old We'll focus still on six year olds. Why why would you want
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to discuss what happens in your private bedroom in any way as a teacher to
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a six year old student, Why would you want to do that? It
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seems absurd to many people, especially if you're trying to put him in a
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direction where maybe they're going to do some sort of body altering surgery. And
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I say six year olds intentionally because I want to talk a little bit about
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the Clinton family. Hillary Clinton was having a fundraiser for some event that she
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was part of and heard her daughter, Chelsea Clinton. Remember her, she's
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an adult now, and nobody in the family is currently serving in any particular
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office thanks to Donald Trump. So she spoke at this particular event, and
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she mentioned she talked about faith. She talked about her family having strong faith,
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her mom having strong faith. And she says that you know, she
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was raised I guess in the Methodist church, and I guess her dad raised
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a Baptist and eventually they changed up to her churches. But she said that
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when she was in she's forty three now, back when she was six years
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old, she says that her church was talking to them about abortion at Sunday
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School, and she said that's the reason that she decided at six years old
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she was going to stop going to that church. She said she didn't understand
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why they were talking about it. She says, I was raised in a
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Methodist church. I left the Baptist church before my dad did because I didn't
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know why they were talking to me about abortion when I was six and Sunday
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School. That's a true story, Okay, So she was in the Baptist
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church, I guess they were talking about it, and then eventually into the
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Methodist church. She says, my mother is very deeply a person of faith.
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It is a deeply authentic and real for my mother and it guides so
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much of her moral compass but also her life's work. I recognize that they
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were men expressions of fate that I don't agree with and feel are quite antithetical
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to how I read the Bible. I find it really challenging when people who
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are self professed liberals kind of look askance into my family's history. Optimism is
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a moral choice. And when I think about all of the statistics that are
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painful of what women are confronting today in our country, and what even more
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women can fronted pre row and how many women died and how many more women
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were maimed because of unsafe abortion practices, we just can't go back to that.
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That's unconscionable to me. And also, I'm sure that this will unleash
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another wave of hating my direction. But as a deeply religious person, it's
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also Unchristian to me. Right, there's a lot to break down there.
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But I really only got into this because I want to go back to her
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age six years old. She says that as a six year old, she
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recognized that this was not okay to talk about at church, an issue that,
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by the way, should be talked about. I'm not necessarily saying with
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a six year old, but it's an issue that is much more appropriate to
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discuss at church than it is at school. There's a number of issues where
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you just think, this is not okay conversation for anyone at six years old,
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Right, how'd you think? There's just some things that if you're going
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to talk to a six year old about, you should be their parent.
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This is one of those issues. Abortion would be something that's much more appropriate
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I think for the parents to talk to her about, not necessarily in a
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Sunday school class, but Sunday school is not school school. And I also
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think that if we're going to talk with kids about making permanent changes to their
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bodies. And I like that she referenced here the women that were main because
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of unsafe abortion practices. Are we someday going to look back at unsafe other
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practices that caused women to have their or young girls I guess, to have
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their bodies maimed in some cases, regretting it in some cases, going we
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can go back, right, No, No, it's too late for that.
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You've already had things removed, You've already had things taken away, you
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have had things added or removed you have made a change that cannot be unchanged.
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Sorry, it's too late, too late. So I just think it's
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interesting. I mean, we know that this is going to be a big
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issue for this election. Is this going to ultimately decide who controls Congress?
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Is this ultimately going to decide you know, who holds the House, who
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holds the Senate? Is this going to determine the White House. I don't
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know. I don't know how this is all going to play out. It's
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definitely a bigger issue than maybe some conservatives realize. And it's also I mean,
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is it can it be the only issue and have Democrats win? If
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this special election was an education maybe? But what I can tell you from
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all of this that we've discussed today is at six years old, is still
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West Carol Morning Show right after the break. Okay, so Valentine's Day has
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come and gone. The National Retail Federation estimate Valentine's Day spending at about twenty
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five point eight billion dollars. That's an average of one hundred and eighty five
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dollars and eighty one cents per person. Seems a little high. As I've
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stressed many times, my wife and I don't really. I mean, we
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went to lunch yesterday. That's what we did. We went to lunch,
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and that was about it. I made her a little card, she made
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me a little card. That's it. That's what we did. We spent
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very very little, unless you count what we spent on lunch. They say
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about fifty three percent of consumers celebrated Valentine's Day yesterday, and it varies by
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generation what they did. Millennials giving gifts, primarily boomers, decorating their homes,
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gen z going out for drinks. About twenty nine percent of those not
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celebrating still did something to mark the occasion, treating themselves to something, doing
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a get together night out with single friends or family members. Dare I say
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gallantines, I don't know, whatever that is, and buying something for themselves
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that are is a bit of an anti Valentine's Day gift. An estimated six
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million people got engaged yesterday. It's the second most popular day after Christmas to
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pop the question. So there you go, And apparently one of the hot
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items, and I'm using the word hot very loosely, very loosely, one
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of you know, you might have thought, oh, I should get my
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of the big items this year, because apparently granny panties are in in twenty
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we're living in, and sometimes it's like it just finds a way to just
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take it up one more notch, just one more level of weirdness, as
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I guess. On social media, people are talking about granny panties and apparently
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say I don't know. I don't even know what do you buy granny panties?
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I don't even know how that works. That'll do it for this Thursday
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