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Fridaze! Vol. 26 - w/Charles(Eyes and Ears podcast) · The Occult Rejects

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Speaker 1: You see something's going to happen.
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Speaker 2: What what's gonna happen?
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Speaker 3: What you.
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Speaker 2: Howady?
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Speaker 3: Folks?
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Speaker 2: Your host JJ vance here, host of Operation g c D,
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Speaker 2: and perhaps more notably not the Vice President. Welcome back,
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Speaker 2: folks of the interwebs for another Fridays along with my
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Speaker 2: co hosts Nick host of The Cult Rejects. Nick Hey, doing, sir?
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Speaker 3: What up? What's going on? Happy Fridays? Little to you?
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Speaker 2: Just enjoying my normal UH you know, tear terror PTSD
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Speaker 2: events surrounding Buffalo Jered Visa, my former stalker and current
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Speaker 2: trans apocalypse multi state homicidal maniac Joe.
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Speaker 3: That is crazy? What'm still with? JJ? You ended ever
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Speaker 3: gonna get into it now? With it? Like even with
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Speaker 3: some of the stories I had with motherfuckers I met
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Speaker 3: in prison, I was like, Yo, you really should do
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Speaker 3: a show just on the weird sick foks we've come
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Speaker 3: across Personally.
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Speaker 2: I totally agree. And that's kind of that's kind of
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Speaker 2: where I'm starting. I like that idea because that's kind
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Speaker 2: of where I'm at with my UH with my new
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Speaker 2: Patreon series, where starting off is the UH Sundays with
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Speaker 2: Operation GCD Sundays doing kind of what you're describing these
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Speaker 2: weird you know, you've you've obviously we've shared a lot
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Speaker 2: of stories offline and sales and high weirdness yourself, and
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Speaker 2: you know, it seems to be it seems to be
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Speaker 2: a trend in my life that you know, I've I've
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Speaker 2: learned to live with and make a joke out of it.
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Speaker 3: It's like maybe you had to go through that ship
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Speaker 3: to get to where, like we are the type of
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Speaker 3: person anyway today, exposure experiency things.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't disagree with that because you know, serving
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Speaker 2: twenty years in the military and the Air Force, and
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Speaker 2: tonight's guest is also an Air Force veteran, but serving
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Speaker 2: twenty years in the military, especially the five or six amun
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Speaker 2: related years I spent in combat, you know what I mean,
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Speaker 2: I learned. I learned a couple of things that you know,
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Speaker 2: you got. First of all, you got to keep a
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Speaker 2: sense of humor in some dark times. And those folks
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Speaker 2: that keep a sense of humor in dark times, there's
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Speaker 2: a reason why they have that sense of humor, you
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Speaker 2: know what I mean. It's it's been a collective issue
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Speaker 2: for you know what I mean, to maintain that. That's
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Speaker 2: what I'm saying it's so much like myself and you yourself.
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Speaker 2: You know, you have to kind of roll with the
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Speaker 2: punches and make a joke out of as what I'm
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Speaker 2: getting that.
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Speaker 3: I mean, you kind of actually had like opposite ends
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Speaker 3: of the polarity. You worked for the government and I
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Speaker 3: was an inmate to the government.
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Speaker 2: You know, and yet we were somehow both prisoners.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, joh, I guess yeah, I wasn't even looking at
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Speaker 3: it like that, but oh, I was in and you
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Speaker 3: were out, you know, so we even have both, I
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Speaker 3: mean to look at it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I connected with one of my dudes from I
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Speaker 2: grew up with in high school years, you know, a
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Speaker 2: couple of probably you know, eight ten years ago. We
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Speaker 2: had reconnected after about fifteen or so years, and he
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Speaker 2: had done a little bit of time at one point
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Speaker 2: in time, and we were comparing our experience as his,
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Speaker 2: and you know, like eighteen months or something like that
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Speaker 2: or whatever in a you know, state situation, not quite
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Speaker 2: like yours, but you know, we were comparing the you know,
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Speaker 2: just the general sense of being and you know, those environments,
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Speaker 2: especially in a deployed environment versus that. So and it's
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Speaker 2: it's not that dissimilar it's not that this simmer. But
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Speaker 2: I got Operation of gc D Sundays coming up eight
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Speaker 2: pm this Sunday's Uh, I'm a Patreon linkscreming the show
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Speaker 2: show notes here tonight, and I got the Curse of
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Speaker 2: Robert the Doll and Lord of Mercy. That thing keeps
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Speaker 2: cursing me. But then of course the following Sunday Buffalo
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Speaker 2: Jared the Legend of Buffalo Jared Visa. So on these
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Speaker 2: on these notes should be some good tales. And again
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Speaker 2: I like to make some some Gallows style dark humor
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Speaker 2: of these circumstances. Otherwise, I don't know how you live
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Speaker 2: with it, you know what I mean? You got to
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Speaker 2: make a joke out of it. In my opinion, Yeah,
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Speaker 2: I have to say.
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Speaker 3: I could tell you starting to enjoy making memes recently,
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Speaker 3: or you you're starting to enjoy this AI stuff over
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Speaker 3: here with these images you sart to get good at it.
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Speaker 2: Uh, yes, sir, I appreciate that. I'm gonna real kick
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Speaker 2: of mumppetizing folks. I've number of times.
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Speaker 3: It's it's hilarious.
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Speaker 2: So anything before we welcome our guests, or anything that
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Speaker 2: you got plugging here tonight with a cult rejects, you've
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Speaker 2: been working on a couple of projects, or any shows
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Speaker 2: you got popping off here?
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Speaker 3: I do have. This weekend, we do have ed Cassis
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Speaker 3: and the Tridacle finally dropping.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I really enjoyed that.
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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, yeah, that was interesting. Then we have Soul lookman. Also, uh,
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Speaker 3: next week we do have what do we got? We
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Speaker 3: got Jama show dropping that we did with uh Aj
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Speaker 3: from Ball Don't Lie Show, and TJ was on from
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Speaker 3: Contemporary Problems and uh yeah we got and oh Laurel
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Speaker 3: Canyon with Julian Colby' dropping next week too. That's actually
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Speaker 3: an old one. We did that a while ago. I
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Speaker 3: forgot to drop it. And then when I noticed that
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Speaker 3: was like the rotation was so far ahead. I was like,
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Speaker 3: damn it, this shit's dropping like three months after the
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Speaker 3: fact now. But yep, yeah I got that coming out.
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Speaker 2: And yeah I was listening to what you were saying.
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Speaker 2: And then someone asked me what g c D meant
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Speaker 2: and I wrote, just GCD again like a real dumb dumb.
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Speaker 2: Now they had cash Is Tried Actors when that was interesting,
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Speaker 2: some thought provoking materials. Whether or not you agree with
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Speaker 2: this conclusions or not, but yeah, Julie and I had
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Speaker 2: an epic conversation R night on O. J. Simpson did
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Speaker 2: not do it the great. I say that facetiously.
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Speaker 1: We were just.
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Speaker 2: Having a conversation. She was bringing up her points because
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Speaker 2: you know, she was born after the event, right after
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Speaker 2: the murders, so you know, she had an interesting perspective,
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Speaker 2: unlike me. I remember watching the Bronco Chase standing in
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Speaker 2: the mall. B Yeah, dude, I remember they paused my
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Speaker 2: Spanish class sophomore year to watch the Verdict, Miss Wolf
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Speaker 2: for Spanish class sophomore year to watch the verdicts. So
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Speaker 2: these were these were bigger events then then Paul eleven.
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Speaker 2: You know, more people tuned into the Verdict than a
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Speaker 2: Paul eleven lunch. So it's interesting. So, without further ado,
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Speaker 2: our guest Stephen Charles Greeting, Sir, host of Iznier's podcast
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Speaker 2: and co host of the AM Wake Up.
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Speaker 1: Yes, appreciate it, Thanks for having me man, good to
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Speaker 1: be here. Hello to the chat. What's going on?
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Speaker 2: Guys, appreciate you joining us, As I was saying, fellow
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Speaker 2: Air Force veteran, like much like myself, you did some
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Speaker 2: you did some time, and.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, what everybody here put some time in for
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Speaker 1: the government in one form or another.
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Speaker 2: All right, sure, so what will you introduce some of
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Speaker 2: your podcasts and kind of what got you here hosting
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Speaker 2: this podcast here?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, definitely so as you said, oh yeah, no, no, no,
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Speaker 1: as you said, yeah, I do uh am Wake Ups
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Speaker 1: Mondays with Steve Poiking in. We just kind of talked
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Speaker 1: about whatever the new who's et cetera. Anarchy base The
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Speaker 1: and Wake Up Crew was very anarchy based. We get
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Speaker 1: into just you know, self sufficient people doing for self,
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Speaker 1: self remedies, self help, things like that. But I talk
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Speaker 1: about the news, all that good stuff. Eyes and Ears
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Speaker 1: my own show, I just talk about whatever I had
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Speaker 1: you on for one of my episodes, which was awesome
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Speaker 1: yourself in Heidi jaj about a lot of interesting topics
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Speaker 1: that were new to me. So, you know, I'm sure
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Speaker 1: you can open my eyes up to some new things today,
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Speaker 1: some interesting topics for sure.
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Speaker 2: Is that is that kind of how you got into
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Speaker 2: this one, to have discussions and share your ideas and
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Speaker 2: kind of find some new ones.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, That's what I'm hearing exactly. Yeah. Basically, just I
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Speaker 1: guess just looking for truth. It's like, you know, after
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Speaker 1: getting out of the military. Like you said, just COVID
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Speaker 1: was an eye opener for a lot of things. COVID
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Speaker 1: just kind of set the stage for for like, really
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Speaker 1: woke me up to people and their actions, you know
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, going through my own stuff there as well,
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Speaker 1: losing a job, et cetera. Just kind of seeing how
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Speaker 1: the system and really operates and really works. Always had
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Speaker 1: that light and feeling in me, but this really kind
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Speaker 1: of pushed me over the edge for real. So I
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Speaker 1: just wanted to connect with people in any kind of way.
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Speaker 1: And I think life and nature and God, you know whatever,
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Speaker 1: the all and knowledge just brought us together. So yeah,
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Speaker 1: I think you're kind of will to seek knowledge kind
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Speaker 1: of brought me where I'm at. So yeah, made my show. Figure,
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Speaker 1: I started talking, and the right people heard, and here
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Speaker 1: I am.
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Speaker 2: That's awesome. No, that's awesome. I think that's I can't
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Speaker 2: really disagree with her. I can't really say that my
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Speaker 2: story is much different as far as trying to seek
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Speaker 2: some knowledge and truth and matters in this lenity tumorld
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Speaker 2: we live in, and uh, you know, share some ideas
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Speaker 2: because you know, you start blowing up, you start you know,
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Speaker 2: saulting the ear drums of your friends and family some
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Speaker 2: of these ideas, and they're like, what is wrong with you?
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Speaker 1: You know what I mean exactly a large part.
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Speaker 2: Of my experience, And you obviously probably had some friends
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Speaker 2: as well in your military years that you maintained and
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Speaker 2: they were like, probably not and day different from where
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Speaker 2: you're at today than where you're at then.
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Speaker 1: Right, was that like two different lives for sure?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I kind of feel that same way myself
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Speaker 2: and I retired. Shit, it's been over seven years, well
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Speaker 2: just over six years now, February twenty nineteen, so yeah,
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Speaker 2: I have. I mean, I maintained friendships with a number
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Speaker 2: of those folks over the years, and what number of
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Speaker 2: my fellow garbage can do is tole like to call them.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, it's you know, a large part. It is
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Speaker 2: a night and day difference. And I think that's kind
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Speaker 2: of what I hear from, not just you, from a
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Speaker 2: lot of folks. And I just feel like that's kind
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Speaker 2: of the nature of our kind of post memeral twenty
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Speaker 2: twenty five as I call it. You know, we're in
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Speaker 2: this weird kind of what is fact and what is fiction,
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Speaker 2: and folks realities are far different from one another. I
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Speaker 2: feel like. I know, Nick and I have discussed these
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Speaker 2: polarizing matters offline a number of times.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the different narratives. It's it's like everyone's living
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Speaker 1: in a different time. Like you said, technology is a
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Speaker 1: huge part of that. You know, no wild framer of
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Speaker 1: how people think.
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Speaker 3: I think it's a magical weapon used amongst you know,
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Speaker 3: that's what makes it happen. Yeah, that's the whole thing,
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Speaker 3: if you that's like even things I'll say from like
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Speaker 3: when you were a kid, you know, I mean me
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Speaker 3: and JJ can like probably say this like it would
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Speaker 3: be harder to be I'm just gonna use this as
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Speaker 3: an example of social justice warria back in the day,
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Speaker 3: because you didn't have so many visions being handed to
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Speaker 3: you to things to pick on to run with, because
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Speaker 3: you didn't have to tight You only saw what was
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Speaker 3: going on in your town maybe you know a little
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Speaker 3: bit whatever, not in another country across the world. You know,
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Speaker 3: Now we're bombarded with all these things to identify with
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Speaker 3: and to take on as ourselves. It's just it's gotten
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Speaker 3: fucking crazy. And I think.
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Speaker 2: I agree, dude, I kind of related it like this,
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Speaker 2: like with this technology and everyone's on their phones and
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Speaker 2: getting all this information and inundated with it. It's I
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Speaker 2: related to an incident I remember from my high school years.
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Speaker 2: There was a fellow that, you know, my high school
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Speaker 2: for whatever, they took all the special needs folks from
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Speaker 2: the whatever that they closed down the special needs school whatever.
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Speaker 2: You know, the folks who the whole spectrum of issues,
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Speaker 2: you know, from autism to everything else, and suddenly they
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Speaker 2: were integrated in all the courses and classes at regular classes.
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Speaker 2: That's kind of strange. But one of one of these
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Speaker 2: dudes is pretty violent, you know what I mean, Like
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Speaker 2: he'd be you know, I think he was kind of
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Speaker 2: on the autism spectrum, and they had an assistant, but
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Speaker 2: they would always leave them when attended at times if
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Speaker 2: you will, you know, no disrespect to the situation, but
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Speaker 2: obviously he needed some assistance, you know, and folks would
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Speaker 2: just get in his ear. Dude when that when that
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Speaker 2: is the when his person went in there there, you know,
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Speaker 2: the rowdy folks in high school or just you know, deckheads,
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Speaker 2: they get dude's ear and just start whispering in his ear,
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Speaker 2: and he would just start assaulting folks. So I relate that,
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Speaker 2: I relate that to how technology works today. They're always
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Speaker 2: whispering shitting folks here, and like this autist also severely
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Speaker 2: autistic that you know, getting yet I mean he would
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Speaker 2: just he would beat the chef folks and knew it
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Speaker 2: would get violent, you know what I mean, But it
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Speaker 2: would only happen after folks stimulated these responses from the
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Speaker 2: man by you know, whatever they're saying to him in
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Speaker 2: his ear like go get them, go get them, you know.
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Speaker 2: And I kind of feel like that's the way technology
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Speaker 2: is today and why we're on such different narratives is
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Speaker 2: because of the fact that like it's literally the scrying
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Speaker 2: devices are in folks haying is looking at every day
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Speaker 2: like oh you know, like you know, whispering in their
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Speaker 2: in their ear face holes, Like you got to be
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Speaker 2: concerned about this. You gotta be frightened about this. You
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Speaker 2: gotta be scared about this, et cetera. And it gets
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Speaker 2: folks spun up and believing in different narratives. And I mean,
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Speaker 2: I don't know about you, Charles, you know, in your
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Speaker 2: area of the America, do you find yourself in circumstances
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Speaker 2: having conversations with folks in public and feel like you're
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Speaker 2: talking to an alien?
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Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, bro, I don't. I rarely talk to people
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Speaker 1: like that, and I'm a friendly person, like I love
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Speaker 1: talking to people.
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Speaker 2: But it's sure, I love talking to folks. And I
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Speaker 2: realized I look like an alien, but you know, I
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Speaker 2: still talk to folks and they sound like an alien
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Speaker 2: to me.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I don't know. I think people there's still
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Speaker 1: interesting people out there. And as time goes on, you know,
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Speaker 1: it's like people are I think willing to talk. But yeah,
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Speaker 1: there's a there's a select number of people I'm truly
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Speaker 1: open with that we're on the same wave, you know
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Besides that, it's not really it's not
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Speaker 1: really like that. It's a simple hello, goodbye, and that's
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Speaker 1: about it, you.
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Speaker 2: Know, right, yeah, pleasantries, right, you know, there's not really
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Speaker 2: any socialization it. Then what leads next is the deterioration
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Speaker 2: of anyone having community events. The socialization largely twenty twenty
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Speaker 2: helped shut any remaining aspects of that down in our
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Speaker 2: social social technology era, right technocratic era. But you know,
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Speaker 2: I think one thing that you know, relative to some
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Speaker 2: of your interest in life being a big being a
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Speaker 2: big Fish fan the band Fish, right, one thing you know, yes,
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Speaker 2: from you know, born from the streets of Church Street
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Speaker 2: and Brington Vermont University of Vermont campus there right right
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Speaker 2: off just off a Church Street there. But Church Street's
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Speaker 2: the main thoroughfare. It's a cobblestone way about four blocks
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Speaker 2: that you know, it's reduced to pedestrian traffic, so it's
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Speaker 2: all used to It used to be all shops, restaurants,
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Speaker 2: live music like you would see out on Bourbon Street
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Speaker 2: with the set of jazz, you got yourself, some some
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Speaker 2: folk rock kind of stuff. That Again, it's it's the
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Speaker 2: culture that spawned Fish right. This is where they This
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Speaker 2: is where they played all their early acts right in
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Speaker 2: the early shows. They're on Church Street. Yeah, and if
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Speaker 2: you go there today, it's a post apocalyptic nightmare full
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Speaker 2: of ship and needles. All the businesses have shut down,
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Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
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Speaker 1: Maga like Mega Baby.
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Speaker 2: There's there's gonna be no more fit. What I'm getting at,
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Speaker 2: there will not be another Fish band spawned from the
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Speaker 2: elements and culture of Church Street. And I again, that's
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Speaker 2: a place I love. It's a my bootleg home Vermont
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Speaker 2: and Church Street specifically there. Nonetheless, like you know, if
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Speaker 2: you delete the culture, who's the next Fish band?
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Speaker 1: Charles exactly. It's a bunch of AI. It's gonna be
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Speaker 1: a AI band, you know, like a meta band. You
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Speaker 1: have to wear your goggles and then you can be
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Speaker 1: in a life concert from your room.
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Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 1: That's kind of the That's where I feel like it's going.
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Speaker 2: Bro, Like, sadly, I think you're right. I think you're right.
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Speaker 1: Like COVID really showed how these bands are, like with
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Speaker 1: the whole protocol and the mass and this and then
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Speaker 1: that and this and the that, and like everybody went
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Speaker 1: along with that. Sadly, fish too, like all the.
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Speaker 3: I didn't know all that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh really, wow, you got to show past all
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Speaker 1: that stuff. Like I think I did one show during
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Speaker 1: that Madison Square twenty twenty one or twenty two twenty two.
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Speaker 1: I did MSG four twenty and yeah, it was like
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Speaker 1: one hundred percent vax pass. You had to show a vaxpass,
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Speaker 1: and I'm sure less than ninety percent of the people.
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Speaker 1: I don't even know the numbers, but I don't think, Hey,
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Speaker 1: what up, what's going on there? Bro? I don't even
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Speaker 1: know how many people were truly vaccinated or going according
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Speaker 1: to the standard. I wasn't surely not, you know, but
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Speaker 1: I still got in there. So how effective was all
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Speaker 1: that nonsense? It wasn't. It's just a powerful to destroyed culture,
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Speaker 1: destroy morale, destroy society, destroy law. All that stuff was unlawful.
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Speaker 1: But hey, people didn't ask questions. People just went along
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Speaker 1: with the presumptions, which is what God is to where
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Speaker 1: we're at, which is why people are jobs. White people
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Speaker 1: got so much, like you know, destroyed. Hey, what up?
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Speaker 2: Man?
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Speaker 1: How you doing? And is it cool? Yeah?
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Speaker 2: I think I think the uh, the stage was set
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Speaker 2: for the events to transpire or to shatter what was
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Speaker 2: the relationships with remaining in society, And that's where we
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Speaker 2: find ourselves today and these polarising opposite timeline of events.
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Speaker 2: When you just go up in public and folks who
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Speaker 2: are just they have way different worldviews.
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Speaker 1: Right, yeah, exactly. Man, it's crazy.
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Speaker 2: It's kind of scary, right. It feels like a Philip K.
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Speaker 2: Dick post apocalyptic nightmare.
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Speaker 1: Where where is this going? Do you think as far
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Speaker 1: as culture, like we see okay, think about you and
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Speaker 1: your childhood, think about culture then now, I don't know,
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Speaker 1: if you have kids, children whatever, think about that now,
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Speaker 1: like them and their future? You know, like, how are
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Speaker 1: things looking like the controllers? What are they trying to
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Speaker 1: create with this because there's nature. You always have to
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Speaker 1: deal with nature, because nature doesn't bend for anyone. Nature's true.
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Speaker 1: And then there's man made whatever in certain nonsense here,
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Speaker 1: How did the two work? You know?
17:07
Speaker 2: Now, I get it, dude, that's I've had those same thoughts.
17:10
Speaker 2: So like my son, he's he's almost eighteen now, he's
17:13
Speaker 2: uh he operates son of as a forty five year
17:16
Speaker 2: old though, so he's older than me if you ask him,
17:19
Speaker 2: uh so he I often I mean a large part
17:22
Speaker 2: of one of the reasons that motivated me to even
17:24
Speaker 2: want to talk about things that I talk about is
17:27
Speaker 2: because I do fear for the world that he and
17:29
Speaker 2: his offspring grow up in.
17:32
Speaker 1: Yeah.
17:33
Speaker 2: I mean, we've watched the liberty, our own liberties just
17:37
Speaker 2: you know, be eroded in my lifetime here, and you know,
17:43
Speaker 2: just from the from even from the you know, just
17:45
Speaker 2: from early childhood. I you know, I can recall even
17:47
Speaker 2: especially the nineties and the Joe Biden backed sponsored bill
17:52
Speaker 2: that was the early Patriot Act. I mean I vividly
17:54
Speaker 2: recall that I think it was, you know, nineteen ninety five there,
17:59
Speaker 2: right right after the uh, the OKC situation, right in
18:02
Speaker 2: the Wacost situation, the Ruby Ridge situation. So you know,
18:05
Speaker 2: you know, there's a lot to be said, I think
18:07
Speaker 2: in directing. You know, these events that direct us in
18:10
Speaker 2: these in these in these new uh you know, tyrannical,
18:13
Speaker 2: you know laws and you know, you know, infringement on liberties.
18:16
Speaker 2: But nonetheless, it's kind it's continent at a rapid pace since
18:19
Speaker 2: the nineteen eighties. If you asked me, I mean to
18:21
Speaker 2: where we're at today. So I think I think looking
18:25
Speaker 2: back at my childhood, like I spent I mean, dude,
18:27
Speaker 2: like I don't see you know, I was never inside,
18:30
Speaker 2: I went allowed inside. I didn't really watch TV, you
18:32
Speaker 2: know what I mean. Like, so you know, it's that's
18:36
Speaker 2: a I mean, my son very much had. He had
18:40
Speaker 2: a lot of similar rules, you know, limited screen times
18:42
Speaker 2: and stuff like that as well. But talk to doing
18:44
Speaker 2: this day and age. Nonetheless, you know, it's it's certainly
18:47
Speaker 2: different culture either way, right, regardless of who's what parents
18:49
Speaker 2: are imposing these things, overall, the culture is different. It's
18:53
Speaker 2: gonna continue to get I mean, yeah, it seems that
18:57
Speaker 2: way right. It doesn't seem like anything's gonna be changing anytimes.
18:59
Speaker 1: Saying no, I don't think so it's just a different time,
19:03
Speaker 1: different day. Like I think people still have that inherent truth.
19:07
Speaker 1: It's like we still have natural things pushing us. But
19:10
Speaker 1: as far as like culture and trends and how things go,
19:13
Speaker 1: it's like there's so many polarities and so many different
19:16
Speaker 1: like types, you know what I'm saying. There's so many
19:19
Speaker 1: different like categories somebody could be. And it's like, what
19:22
Speaker 1: is culture nowadays? Besides you a little pocket? And that's that, you.
19:27
Speaker 2: Know, right, And if you think about it, you go
19:30
Speaker 2: to different towns across America, everything's the same because everyone
19:33
Speaker 2: is connected the same through the same shit and the
19:35
Speaker 2: same stuff or the same social media stuff and everything
19:39
Speaker 2: else like that, they're reading the same news articles. There's
19:42
Speaker 2: no there's not really any difference. Like I travel a lot,
19:44
Speaker 2: there's really not any difference, you know. I remember we
19:47
Speaker 2: got everything. It used to be different, used to be vascinating.
19:50
Speaker 2: I mean before the I would say before the year
19:53
Speaker 2: two thousand and five, I driven coast to coast in
19:55
Speaker 2: America at least four times, so you know, and I
19:57
Speaker 2: could tell you right now things are vastly different than
19:59
Speaker 2: what you you're doing that just ten years ago, you know,
20:02
Speaker 2: just with then it's ten year spans different. Wow, everything
20:05
Speaker 2: just you know, I think starts being the same, you know.
20:09
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's exactly dude. It's like that, that that
20:12
Speaker 1: monotonous feeling, that static type of situation, you know what
20:17
Speaker 1: I'm saying, making everything centralized, centralizing power, making everything look
20:21
Speaker 1: the same no matter where you're at, everything's the same everywhere.
20:24
Speaker 2: You know, it's crazy and it's a crazy purpose.
20:30
Speaker 1: Yeah. Being outdoors definitely is the thing, and I appreciate that. Yeah,
20:34
Speaker 1: being outside is like the thing, you know, just like yeah,
20:37
Speaker 1: growing up, I don't remember being inside like that. I
20:40
Speaker 1: played video games inside, but that was like so that
20:43
Speaker 1: was like the thing with friends, Like that was an
20:45
Speaker 1: event and then was being outside.
20:48
Speaker 3: You know, right right, Yeah it was an event.
20:52
Speaker 1: Yeah.
20:53
Speaker 2: Yeah, Now even in New York City. Yeah, it was
20:58
Speaker 2: even in Long Island. I mean in an area that's
21:00
Speaker 2: close to New York City. I mean, it was still
21:02
Speaker 2: pretty eighty suburbs. I mean it was kind of green pains,
21:04
Speaker 2: like right, as far as the depiction of the suburbs
21:06
Speaker 2: of Long Island, that was a fairly accurate description.
21:09
Speaker 3: Yeah, like everybody on the block, all the kids knew
21:10
Speaker 3: each other, you know, there was like there was things
21:13
Speaker 3: like in the area that we just yeah, there was
21:15
Speaker 3: a lot of shit we did and we rode bikes together.
21:17
Speaker 3: There was ramps at the end of the road. There
21:19
Speaker 3: was like woods, so we had this track so we
21:21
Speaker 3: all rode our bikes on it. We skateboarded. Yeah, it
21:25
Speaker 3: was just like the whole area was just like it's
21:27
Speaker 3: not the same anymore, you know, like you you were
21:30
Speaker 3: like not wanting to come home really, you know what
21:32
Speaker 3: I'm so.
21:33
Speaker 2: Yeah, right right, it would be dark outside, like shit,
21:37
Speaker 2: I gotta get back there, fucking And when I say
21:41
Speaker 2: when I says like, I mean like right well, I
21:46
Speaker 2: mean yeah, and you know the cat with the eighties,
21:50
Speaker 2: we all got we all got scared with it. You
21:51
Speaker 2: don't want to get in the woods. See bad stuff
21:53
Speaker 2: happened to see in the woods with Friday the thirteenth
21:55
Speaker 2: and stuff like that, and teenage sex is bad, teenage
21:57
Speaker 2: sex you die, you know, and all these horror films
21:59
Speaker 2: right that, these are the ideas that were imposed on
22:02
Speaker 2: America and especially the Reagan administration. But when I said
22:05
Speaker 2: Growing Pains on Land, I mean like it had the
22:07
Speaker 2: appearance of very nice places, but much like the TV
22:13
Speaker 2: show Growing pains and some dark shit going on behind
22:15
Speaker 2: the scenes, I know, like that dark shit's now coming
22:18
Speaker 2: to the surface.
22:19
Speaker 3: Right, No, I definitely even agree with that. It's it's
22:23
Speaker 3: interesting like looking back as a kid, certain things that
22:26
Speaker 3: you didn't notice that like when you remember now you're like, wow,
22:30
Speaker 3: like my boy back then, wasn't it in a good situation?
22:34
Speaker 3: I didn't notice, like like memories.
22:36
Speaker 1: I write that.
22:38
Speaker 3: It's not to explain, but yeah, yeah, just weird ship
22:41
Speaker 3: that you look back and you're like, wow, like evil
22:43
Speaker 3: existed that I just didn't know as an adult.
22:46
Speaker 1: Yeah, adult mind just going back to your childhood days
22:49
Speaker 1: and saying, yeah, yeah, living this situation, this was this
22:54
Speaker 1: was sketchy.
22:55
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, Now I know why a certain way
22:58
Speaker 3: at times because probably a fucked up house and I
23:01
Speaker 3: didn't know for sure.
23:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's a very salient characteristic, yeah, for
23:06
Speaker 2: sure of what we're talking here. But also I think
23:08
Speaker 2: it just seems today though, shit is just on the
23:10
Speaker 2: surface more right. Maybe it's just me, you know, I
23:13
Speaker 2: mean just you know, folks don't want touson let their
23:15
Speaker 2: kids get play out until dark time because it's it's
23:18
Speaker 2: too dark for them to consider these things, right, right.
23:22
Speaker 2: I remember when my son went to the first one
23:24
Speaker 2: to kindergarten for homeschool them. Oh go ahead, Charles, what
23:27
Speaker 2: was that?
23:28
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, just there's danger. It's like everything's a
23:31
Speaker 1: danger mindset versus like, hey, just let the kids play now.
23:33
Speaker 1: Looks like you got to control control exactly. Put them
23:37
Speaker 1: on the iPad. It's just easier. Let them learn on
23:39
Speaker 1: the iPad.
23:40
Speaker 3: You know.
23:43
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy, man.
23:44
Speaker 2: For sure. I was a pall before I homeschooled my son,
23:47
Speaker 2: you know, in his younger years there. He went to
23:50
Speaker 2: kindergarten in public school, and I was appalled that they
23:52
Speaker 2: were trying to get me to sign up for to
23:54
Speaker 2: low jack my child. I was like, what is wrong
23:56
Speaker 2: with you people?
23:58
Speaker 1: Wow?
23:58
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? If you're gonna scare the
23:59
Speaker 2: sh shit. I have every parent that comes in here
24:01
Speaker 2: that they need to put a tracking device on their
24:03
Speaker 2: child's backpack or person. I'm like, this is this is
24:06
Speaker 2: this is looney Tunes. What world are you advocating here?
24:09
Speaker 1: There's nothing you know.
24:11
Speaker 2: I remember even have a discussion because yeah, and I
24:13
Speaker 2: went a little tar. I tarred it out on them.
24:15
Speaker 2: I was like, you know what, the crime statistics don't
24:16
Speaker 2: support anything in which you're inferring here. You know, this
24:19
Speaker 2: is all a terror campaign. You know. I again, I
24:21
Speaker 2: you know, probably shared a little bit too much of
24:23
Speaker 2: my opinion. But again, the idea that the children are
24:26
Speaker 2: randomly kidnapped, you need a load jack children. There's nothing
24:28
Speaker 2: to support that statistically was you know, crime crime statistics
24:31
Speaker 2: was you know, these things occur by folks, they know,
24:33
Speaker 2: not random people, and you know these are the but
24:36
Speaker 2: this is the culture I think that's being instilled on
24:38
Speaker 2: folks through these techno these advancements and technology. Look, we
24:42
Speaker 2: advance the technology, we can now loajack your child. Not
24:46
Speaker 2: to mention they're lojacks already with a phone, right, But
24:48
Speaker 2: I'm just saying this was this was slaving before phone time, right.
24:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you've got a phone, you're already and like
24:55
Speaker 1: you know, like exactly, you could put a track around
24:56
Speaker 1: the kid, or you could just you know, find my phone,
24:59
Speaker 1: we your iPhone and there it is.
25:02
Speaker 2: It's crazy, right, you know, I'm not saying that there's
25:07
Speaker 2: not obviously random kidnappings and stuff and networks of stuff
25:09
Speaker 2: that have done this over the years. You know, networks
25:12
Speaker 2: of folks that you know kidnapped, you know, random children,
25:15
Speaker 2: that's obviously occur, but the vast majority of circumstances that
25:18
Speaker 2: is not the case. You know what I mean. It
25:20
Speaker 2: doesn't support forcing a public school system to start instituting
25:23
Speaker 2: lowjacking your children.
25:26
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And somebody in the comments Polaris twenty three
25:30
Speaker 1: saying the black mirrors are not for children, They're not
25:33
Speaker 1: for anybody. Really, them things that they're not agree to
25:36
Speaker 1: be used in the way like it's it's all algorithm based.
25:40
Speaker 1: And you're correct, it's not for kids. It's not for anybody.
25:42
Speaker 1: But here there I've seen children like two years old,
25:47
Speaker 1: like navigating through them things like just foo foo foom,
25:50
Speaker 1: like it's nuts, it's nuts. Meanwhile, we know there's nih studies.
25:55
Speaker 1: We know there's like patents on the books that talk
25:58
Speaker 1: about like you know, the new role in central nervous
26:01
Speaker 1: system like disruptors in these like screens in the the
26:07
Speaker 1: blue lights in the lights, like that's a thing. Like meanwhile,
26:11
Speaker 1: kids using every time, Yeah exactly, yeah.
26:17
Speaker 2: I mean, and just the I again, the influx of
26:20
Speaker 2: information you're dealing with. At what point in time is
26:22
Speaker 2: this just not We're not cut out for these things
26:24
Speaker 2: as humans, you know what I mean? Like you don't
26:27
Speaker 2: need constant updates from all your I'm not a social
26:30
Speaker 2: media person there, Charles, So you know, no disrespect to
26:32
Speaker 2: folks you are. I mean, I maintain we communicate through twixter,
26:36
Speaker 2: But I do these things from a podcast, you know
26:37
Speaker 2: what I mean. I don't do personal social media. I'm
26:40
Speaker 2: not posting a photo of my burgers saying look with
26:42
Speaker 2: this delicious burger, despite the fact I love burgers, That's
26:46
Speaker 2: never something that's gonna happen in my life, you know
26:47
Speaker 2: what I mean. But so, but we do live in
26:49
Speaker 2: a culture where folks are doing that. They're getting updates,
26:51
Speaker 2: they're getting aedifications, they get dope I meane hits based
26:54
Speaker 2: upon these things where this is this becomes the reality.
26:56
Speaker 2: When you say folks are gonna put on goggles and
26:58
Speaker 2: go to a concert, I mean we're not that far off.
27:01
Speaker 1: No, No, not at all. Yeah, No, that that's kind
27:05
Speaker 1: of where it's at. Goggles to do work, remote work,
27:08
Speaker 1: goggles to kind of see things. Travel. You don't need
27:12
Speaker 1: to actually go somewhere and experience the culture, eat the
27:16
Speaker 1: food made by the people there, with the ingredients there,
27:19
Speaker 1: get the full feel of what it is. No, don't
27:21
Speaker 1: do that just kind of put these goggles on, cook
27:24
Speaker 1: a little you know thing in your house, and there
27:27
Speaker 1: you go. That's culture enjoy scary for sure.
27:34
Speaker 2: So you cover a lot of these topics We've already
27:37
Speaker 2: been discussing on the Eyes and Ears podcast, and I
27:39
Speaker 2: definitely appreciated the invite with Heidi there and enjoyed that conversation.
27:43
Speaker 2: I definitely high recommend folks check that one out. Hearty
27:46
Speaker 2: Love the Unfiltered Rise and Fellow a cult reject and
27:50
Speaker 2: myself we joined Charles for a conversation of a roundtable
27:53
Speaker 2: discussion on these kind of topics of lifting the veil.
27:56
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, that's right. Yeah, just because everything and I
27:59
Speaker 1: did it show last time. We're talking about cartoons, like
28:02
Speaker 1: everything being a cartoon, Like there's veils everywhere, like like
28:06
Speaker 1: we live in it. Like like I said earlier, presumptions,
28:08
Speaker 1: there's so many presumptions made, and like we think one thing,
28:12
Speaker 1: but in reality, the world is totally it runs on
28:14
Speaker 1: its own course and we're following somebody else's course. So
28:18
Speaker 1: it's like who are we following? And I feel like
28:21
Speaker 1: it's sorcerers and magicians. It's old bloodlines, old families, people
28:27
Speaker 1: that have information and people privated things that we're not,
28:32
Speaker 1: and they're controlling the scenes and the script of how
28:35
Speaker 1: things work.
28:38
Speaker 2: It sounds like you're talking about some old school magic stuff.
28:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, i'mang all that occult magic. I mean this is
28:45
Speaker 1: the cult rejects.
28:46
Speaker 2: Right, well, you've come to the right place or yes, yes.
28:53
Speaker 1: All that. Yeah, so that's what it is. It's like,
28:55
Speaker 1: it's all I don't know, I feel like that's what
28:57
Speaker 1: it is. It's like there's politics, which is a surface.
28:59
Speaker 1: There's like administrative things, which is a surface.
29:03
Speaker 3: But then there's religions claim they're just a religion just
29:06
Speaker 3: to say that they are, okay, yeah, like you know,
29:09
Speaker 3: I even think some Jews are just they're cabalists. Yeah,
29:12
Speaker 3: and some Catholic people are just more into maybe the
29:15
Speaker 3: Catholic Catholic occultism. Just wanted to sorry interrupt, Yeah.
29:22
Speaker 1: I think no, no, not totally. Man. I think every
29:25
Speaker 1: sect has like degrees, everything has a polarity. There's like
29:28
Speaker 1: polarity toever you have your extremes in all things. So
29:31
Speaker 1: it's like there's Black Jews, there's Ethiopian Jews who are
29:35
Speaker 1: just like, hey, I'm I'm just you know, I read
29:37
Speaker 1: the Torah and that's it. And then you got people
29:39
Speaker 1: who are like Habad Lubovich. But but it's like you
29:43
Speaker 1: have different degrees of things. You know what I'm saying.
29:45
Speaker 1: It is what it is, you know. But it's like,
29:48
Speaker 1: how we got to discern things? I feel like that's
29:50
Speaker 1: number one where things start using that discernment, being able
29:53
Speaker 1: to see beyond the veil, being able to kind of
29:56
Speaker 1: go a step further to realize that. Wait a second, Okay,
30:00
Speaker 1: So so Donald Trump is the president, He's the father
30:05
Speaker 1: of of the the mRNA. He is like the warp speed.
30:10
Speaker 1: He does all these things. Israel Iran Like okay, so
30:14
Speaker 1: there's that. How does that affect me in my daily life?
30:18
Speaker 1: Why is that? There's so much noise behind that, But
30:21
Speaker 1: it's like, what does that do my daily life? What
30:23
Speaker 1: actually affects me is nature, the son, you know, me
30:27
Speaker 1: and my children, my family, the well being of my people.
30:30
Speaker 1: That's what affects me. When I turn the TV on,
30:32
Speaker 1: that stress level goes up. When I turn it down.
30:35
Speaker 1: It's like, wow, life is truly life without all the nonsense.
30:41
Speaker 1: But there's so much nonsense keeping us away from just nature,
30:44
Speaker 1: from a real living. There's so much And this is
30:47
Speaker 1: where I think that the magic comes in because this
30:50
Speaker 1: is what they're trying to Now go ahead, bro, please
30:55
Speaker 1: please anything if you all have anything to add, please.
30:59
Speaker 2: Now you're no god on a retro. I was just
31:01
Speaker 2: you're spot on, Charles. I was gonna say that's exactly
31:03
Speaker 2: wrong when you were when you were saying, that's exactly
31:04
Speaker 2: I was thinking. Because it is the magic. It is
31:06
Speaker 2: the signal to use a military term you may or
31:09
Speaker 2: may not be familiar with. I know you you didn't
31:11
Speaker 2: necessarily use a lot of radio comms there in your
31:13
Speaker 2: your field of the air force. But the signal to
31:16
Speaker 2: noise ratio, right like, you know, the ability to actually
31:19
Speaker 2: find out what is relevant versus all this other nonsense
31:21
Speaker 2: and distraction. I think it is that noise, that nonsense
31:24
Speaker 2: of distraction, that is the magic.
31:26
Speaker 1: Show yes, exactly, and through that noise it shapes you
31:30
Speaker 1: and it changes you. It's like vibrations. If the thing
31:33
Speaker 1: vibrates you and hits you at a certain level, and
31:35
Speaker 1: if you vibrate with it, well mission accomplished. They they've disrupted,
31:39
Speaker 1: you know, versus them vibrating at you and you being
31:42
Speaker 1: able to block it and stand firm in your own
31:44
Speaker 1: vibration vibrating higher than them. That's what they don't want.
31:49
Speaker 1: That's why they spray the sky. That's why we have
31:51
Speaker 1: the Weather Modification Act. Folks, go look it up. It's
31:54
Speaker 1: on the books. It's it's like USC, like I forgot
31:57
Speaker 1: the fifteen maybe, but it's like actual, well, it's it's law.
32:01
Speaker 1: They spring, you don't hide it.
32:03
Speaker 3: It's I did an episode on this is old, like
32:07
Speaker 3: probably two years ago, me and Teresa. I think we
32:09
Speaker 3: did an episode on weather patent weather manipulation patents. I
32:14
Speaker 3: mean there's tons of them just then. That shows proof
32:16
Speaker 3: that they're being done, if they're patented, and it's even
32:20
Speaker 3: explaining to you how it's being done and shit like that.
32:23
Speaker 3: It's like obviously it's fucking real. Like it's sound conspiracy.
32:27
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and it's you.
32:28
Speaker 2: Know, and I remember the first time I heard about
32:30
Speaker 2: these things.
32:33
Speaker 1: No, no, please go ahead, go ahead, god yeah, folks. Fifteen USC.
32:36
Speaker 1: Commerce and Trade is where you will find Noah and
32:39
Speaker 1: all this stuff dealing with the weather modification specifically Chapter
32:43
Speaker 1: nine to a Weather Modification Activities or attempts reportings are required.
32:49
Speaker 1: You can there's a site where you can pull up
32:52
Speaker 1: the companies that do this, and those are the ones
32:54
Speaker 1: that have to record. Some don't have to record, so
32:58
Speaker 1: it is public record people. It is happening. It is
33:01
Speaker 1: a thing, and there is a fact behind it. They're
33:03
Speaker 1: trying to disrupt us, like they're trying to disrupt nature.
33:07
Speaker 1: Not just us, we are part of nature. They're trying
33:09
Speaker 1: to disrupt nature. You know.
33:11
Speaker 3: I swear I could be completely wrong, but this is
33:16
Speaker 3: why I think a lot of like what you were
33:17
Speaker 3: saying with the noise JJ, just my opinion, I could
33:20
Speaker 3: be completely wrong. When they were going on about that
33:23
Speaker 3: Chinese spy balloon, my opinion from when I covered manipulation patterns,
33:30
Speaker 3: I saw the same thing drawn in one of the patents.
33:34
Speaker 3: I was like, that looked exactly like a weather manipulation balloon.
33:37
Speaker 3: Believe it or not, that I've seen a patent.
33:38
Speaker 2: Wouldn't be surprised. Would not be surprised, you know, because
33:41
Speaker 2: they would do the NASA uses a lot of heliums.
33:44
Speaker 3: So and around that time, we had all these chemical skills.
33:47
Speaker 3: All you got to do is just blow the fucking wind.
33:49
Speaker 2: Now, well, we we had that huge train disaster in Ohio.
33:54
Speaker 2: These palaces, you know, well, and that was preceded by
33:59
Speaker 2: a Netflix was based upon a book that was from
34:01
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty five. There's a lot of weird shit that
34:03
Speaker 2: go on with that storyline. But what what what was
34:06
Speaker 2: the first thought you heard when you you know, you're
34:07
Speaker 2: an Air Force veteran, so you think when you hear
34:10
Speaker 2: you know, geo engineering or you know, camtrails, whatever you
34:13
Speaker 2: want to call it. You know you you probably heard
34:16
Speaker 2: it after your career, I'm assuming turtles or did you
34:18
Speaker 2: hear you know, before during Like what were your thoughts
34:20
Speaker 2: the first time you heard of that term? And when
34:22
Speaker 2: did you hear?
34:23
Speaker 1: So this was this was before? Like I feel like
34:25
Speaker 1: I've always been privy to these things, but just never
34:29
Speaker 1: really fully you know, out there like living my life
34:32
Speaker 1: like that. But a geoengineering man, I think, yeah, uh,
34:37
Speaker 1: pre military for sure, but like seeing it all the time.
34:41
Speaker 1: Maybe when I was post military is when I really
34:44
Speaker 1: started seeing that, you know, when all this star that
34:48
Speaker 1: the spring is really a thing, and then you just
34:51
Speaker 1: see it all the time. Tick tack toe in the sky.
34:57
Speaker 2: Speaking of the signal of the noise ratio that that
34:59
Speaker 2: east Paler al Stein book was white noise in the
35:02
Speaker 2: movie was white noise rangely ratio? What year. Was this
35:07
Speaker 2: that you you started finding that these concepts of weather
35:12
Speaker 2: modification and chemtrails made in fact have validity to them. Man, uh,
35:19
Speaker 2: when did that occur? In like what cause that occur?
35:22
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
35:23
Speaker 1: The whole COVID thing really pushed me to like start
35:26
Speaker 1: like reading into everything. It's almost like I always said
35:30
Speaker 1: my doubts, but post COVID is when I was like, Okay,
35:33
Speaker 1: I got to like read these documents myself, Like I
35:35
Speaker 1: got to like actually download the PDF and read what
35:39
Speaker 1: the Health Human Services are saying because I'm getting like
35:42
Speaker 1: I'm getting different messages from So basically when I was
35:45
Speaker 1: in the military bro writing memorandums, reading fies, That's where
35:49
Speaker 1: I got that from. I guess reading the rules because
35:52
Speaker 1: in the military your job is based on rules, it's
35:55
Speaker 1: not based on what you want to do. You can
35:57
Speaker 1: pick up a manual and literally read your whole job,
36:00
Speaker 1: your coworker's job, your boss's job, the officer's job. You
36:04
Speaker 1: can read everything. So that's kind of where I got
36:07
Speaker 1: that feel from. It's like, if it's governmental, it's got
36:10
Speaker 1: rules and regulations, it's got definitions of things, because things
36:15
Speaker 1: have to have definitions. Things mean things people. Things mean
36:19
Speaker 1: things like interstate commerce it means something. Motor vehicles operate
36:24
Speaker 1: in interstate commerce. That means something. But if you don't
36:28
Speaker 1: know that, well it is what it is. So the
36:31
Speaker 1: more reading I did, the more like you know, jumping
36:33
Speaker 1: into things, the more I started like, it's like, wait,
36:36
Speaker 1: wait a second. So they're spraying in the sky, they're
36:38
Speaker 1: admitting it. What companies are doing this? Who's doing it?
36:43
Speaker 1: Asking questions?
36:44
Speaker 3: Who?
36:44
Speaker 1: Why is the government around this? Wait a second, there's
36:47
Speaker 1: an act for this. The government is literally regulating that.
36:51
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I got it. I see okay, So why
36:54
Speaker 1: would they do that? Why would they do that?
36:57
Speaker 2: Right? Maybe the emp Well, obviously I have some similar
37:03
Speaker 2: kind of coming to understanding of these concepts. And you know,
37:06
Speaker 2: towards the end of my career in the Air Force,
37:08
Speaker 2: I spent the last few years in the reserves there
37:11
Speaker 2: and uh, you know, and I knew a lot of
37:13
Speaker 2: pilots over the years. You know, basically every once you
37:16
Speaker 2: get to like a certain level, even at a base level.
37:18
Speaker 2: I mean, everyone in charge of a base is a pilot, right,
37:20
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? So you have to know
37:22
Speaker 2: a lot of pilots in your leadership and boss and
37:24
Speaker 2: stuff like that over the years, and you know, you
37:28
Speaker 2: know asked some questions of some of those folks. You know,
37:30
Speaker 2: they're like, like, what the hell are you talking about,
37:33
Speaker 2: you know, spraying shit in the skies. I mean, well,
37:36
Speaker 2: if someone's doing I just said, if someone's doing it,
37:38
Speaker 2: then how does the Air Force not know about it?
37:41
Speaker 2: Was what I was was my question, right, you know,
37:43
Speaker 2: just from a real basic level. But I mean, you
37:46
Speaker 2: know that was probably like twenty sixteen or so. You know,
37:50
Speaker 2: we even in the years since then, there's been a
37:52
Speaker 2: lot of you know, official admittance of these kind of
37:55
Speaker 2: projects from John Brennan, see when he was a CIA
37:57
Speaker 2: director talking at the Council on Foreign really about about
38:01
Speaker 2: these programs. And if you think about it, when you're
38:03
Speaker 2: talking about it's an act. Well, there's an act to
38:06
Speaker 2: ensure that we never know about these things. Because freedom
38:09
Speaker 2: of speech was eradicated in America in June of nineteen
38:13
Speaker 2: forty seven via the National Security Act of nineteen forty seven.
38:17
Speaker 2: Free speech cannot exist in this national security culture where
38:21
Speaker 2: things like geoengineering programs or homicidal death cults American folks
38:25
Speaker 2: across America, not specifically the Zizzy and Silicon Valley based
38:30
Speaker 2: vegan rationalist AI focused homicidal trans death cult. But you
38:37
Speaker 2: know those things of that nature, you know, they get
38:39
Speaker 2: stamp National security right untelling. No one talks about it,
38:42
Speaker 2: no one knows anything that's going on with it.
38:45
Speaker 1: Is that the official cult name JJ.
38:50
Speaker 2: Well, they're technically the Zizians, but I you know, much
38:52
Speaker 2: like everything else, I got a muppetize thing, so you
38:54
Speaker 2: call them.
38:55
Speaker 4: The zif Lords. They were had they come up with that.
39:02
Speaker 2: I think Heather came up with it, the Chat.
39:07
Speaker 1: Of Darkness.
39:08
Speaker 3: Yeah, she seems.
39:09
Speaker 2: I love the nickname and I roll with it because
39:12
Speaker 2: it's spot on, because it uh, I will credit Heather
39:15
Speaker 2: for you know again the Princess of Darkness there, Lucy
39:17
Speaker 2: morning Star for for coming up with that. But yeah,
39:19
Speaker 2: they were LARPing as uh, this is this is how
39:23
Speaker 2: I I like to talk about ancient alien cargo cults
39:26
Speaker 2: on my largely un operation GCD, as we discussed on
39:29
Speaker 2: my visit to your show there, Charles, and it always,
39:33
Speaker 2: uh you know, impresses me the the amount of cultural
39:35
Speaker 2: impact these these storylines.
39:36
Speaker 1: Of hack Star Wars.
39:38
Speaker 2: You know, it took place in a galaxy long ago,
39:41
Speaker 2: far far away longng ago. You know ancient aliens, right,
39:44
Speaker 2: you know these Zizzy and folks were LARPing as uh
39:47
Speaker 2: as Jedi you know Dark Jedies or whatever sith Lord Jedies.
39:51
Speaker 2: You know literally literally they had the capes and they're
39:53
Speaker 2: wearing Guy Fawkes masks, they had Ar fifteen's, they had
39:57
Speaker 2: walkie talkies and they're running around a campground scared, and
40:00
Speaker 2: the ship out of young children and I'm like, all right,
40:02
Speaker 2: well this has gone too far.
40:04
Speaker 1: Wow, a bunch of weird stuff, man.
40:08
Speaker 2: Like why we live in strange times?
40:11
Speaker 3: Really weird?
40:13
Speaker 1: So weird man.
40:14
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're definitely a weird group. You know.
40:17
Speaker 1: The thing.
40:19
Speaker 3: The old all of them though, will tie back to
40:22
Speaker 3: like either AI and NASA ship. It was so it
40:24
Speaker 3: was really weird with that too. They were all tied
40:27
Speaker 3: back to like things that even like Peter till or
40:31
Speaker 3: Sam Bank and Free were involved with. It's a little interesting.
40:36
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm sure you're off.
40:38
Speaker 2: For everybody.
40:39
Speaker 1: Trump putting Alex KRP and Pallenteer right in charge of
40:42
Speaker 1: like uh basically mining info and databasing people, It's like,
40:47
Speaker 1: tell me something, I don't know. It's like we know
40:49
Speaker 1: this is coming. The train has already left a long
40:52
Speaker 1: time ago. We know what's coming, but it's like these
40:54
Speaker 1: they don't care. It's just rolling out.
40:57
Speaker 3: You know. You know whose company helped to spread most
41:00
Speaker 3: of the COVID vaccines across the country. He was Peter Till.
41:05
Speaker 3: Trump gave him that job with one of his companies. Like,
41:08
Speaker 3: come on, man, the guy gave us the vaccine and
41:11
Speaker 3: then fucking forced it into everybody's lums too. Yeah, picked up, okay,
41:16
Speaker 3: and he's got Peter Tell paying off JD Vance. Now
41:19
Speaker 3: he gave Hulk, He gave Trump forty million the first time,
41:22
Speaker 3: gave JD Vans ten million. Another thing, just real.
41:26
Speaker 2: Quick, Claire, JD. Just to be clear, JD Vance not
41:29
Speaker 2: jj vance.
41:30
Speaker 1: Not.
41:33
Speaker 3: Charles. Do you remember do you remember.
41:35
Speaker 2: I received no money, Peter, no money when.
41:38
Speaker 3: Whole Cogan got busted with that sex tape. Do you
41:41
Speaker 3: remember that, Charles a long time ago, when Hull Colgan
41:43
Speaker 3: got busted like some second boy.
41:45
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was Peter Till. Peter Teal gave him the
41:50
Speaker 5: money to go. Yeah, because they outed him as gay
41:53
Speaker 5: and he was. But now if you remember who was
41:57
Speaker 5: ripping their shirt off and then endorsing Trump this last election, Peter.
42:04
Speaker 5: He's another peed Teal puppy. So many people were endorsing
42:08
Speaker 5: Trump that peed Teal is associated with. Quite obviously what's
42:11
Speaker 5: going on.
42:12
Speaker 1: It's that, as Steve Porkin says, it's the Pewter Teal
42:16
Speaker 1: is or what's his name, jd Vance is Peter Teel's
42:20
Speaker 1: golf glove. Just nice, easy, just you know, a little
42:24
Speaker 1: puppet glove. Just stick your hand in there and do
42:26
Speaker 1: what you do. You know, it's crazy. You do know
42:31
Speaker 1: that Elon Musk is out of the administration, right, so
42:34
Speaker 1: he's not there anymore. And you do know that five
42:37
Speaker 1: hundred and ninety million dollars got cut from Maderna for
42:41
Speaker 1: for doing the H five N one, So you know,
42:45
Speaker 1: good things are happening. But it's not like Elon Musk
42:48
Speaker 1: already started all this foolery. And it's not like that
42:51
Speaker 1: money is going to get reallocated somewhere else. By the way,
42:54
Speaker 1: where is that money going?
42:57
Speaker 3: Remember our first it was talks of us getting paid.
43:00
Speaker 3: Happened to that, right right?
43:02
Speaker 2: I don't think he's gone anywhere. I mean that whole
43:04
Speaker 2: So Peter Teal and Elon Musk are part of the
43:07
Speaker 2: pay what's known as a PayPal. I'm Offia, so I
43:09
Speaker 2: think they're still very much all part of the same network.
43:11
Speaker 2: And Teal had been funding jd Vance's venture capitalists from
43:15
Speaker 2: for at least ten to see eight years proceeding his
43:19
Speaker 2: time as a US center. No, not eight years, four
43:22
Speaker 2: years per I think from Sirica twenty twelve to Sirica
43:25
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen he was no that does the center right
43:28
Speaker 2: either does it twenty well called six years twenty fourteen
43:31
Speaker 2: to twenty twenty he was financing the venture capitalist you know,
43:35
Speaker 2: businesses of jd Vance and Silicon Valley. So an ongoing
43:39
Speaker 2: enterprise of these. What I would infer is likely CIA
43:43
Speaker 2: seed money through Teal back in the late nineties to
43:46
Speaker 2: begin with, right through like inq tel kind of related activities, right.
43:50
Speaker 2: I don't think it was specifically inqtel, but I don't
43:51
Speaker 2: remember the Thals and you know investment fund back then
43:54
Speaker 2: it was an early investment in pay and PayPal. So
43:57
Speaker 2: that's how him and him and Musk got connected. But
43:59
Speaker 2: there is something to be said though with Theal's hatred
44:02
Speaker 2: for the First Amendment, you know what I mean? Like again,
44:04
Speaker 2: as Nick was pointing out, he had this war on
44:07
Speaker 2: Goker right, So he finances whole Cogan and I'm pretty
44:10
Speaker 2: sure they both were ripping their shirts off for Trump
44:12
Speaker 2: and you know, for the election here this past year,
44:14
Speaker 2: both THEOL and Hogan. But you know, he finances this
44:18
Speaker 2: whole allsuit to shut down entire periodical, right, and against
44:21
Speaker 2: not that far the timeline of which he does is
44:24
Speaker 2: not that far off from when Nick Bryant publishes the
44:26
Speaker 2: Epstein Black Book through the same periodical. So I don't
44:29
Speaker 2: think it's beyond question to find task for those two
44:33
Speaker 2: incidents connected at all, deals not in the Black Book.
44:37
Speaker 2: But I'm just saying, you know, it's it is odd.
44:40
Speaker 3: It is interesting though, if you look at Epstein and
44:43
Speaker 3: Sam Bakemon Free, they were both in some way, if
44:46
Speaker 3: you look at it, almost competitors against Teal.
44:51
Speaker 2: Yeah.
44:51
Speaker 3: Ay, I for sure, you know it just it just
44:54
Speaker 3: both just you know, just happens to work.
44:59
Speaker 2: Yeah, you were telling me about that before one day, Nick. Yeah,
45:01
Speaker 2: that's a good point you bring up, because yeah, they
45:03
Speaker 2: you know, these are some of the top financiers of
45:05
Speaker 2: AI projects, theel banking, Freed, Epstein and and they you know,
45:11
Speaker 2: more so, Freed and Epstein were more on the same
45:13
Speaker 2: side versus theel kind of deal. But it's odd that,
45:16
Speaker 2: you know, Deal's folks, you know, seemingly taken out competition,
45:19
Speaker 2: and you know, old bank and Free connects to a
45:21
Speaker 2: lot of things, from p Daddy to a small rural
45:23
Speaker 2: bank in Idaho that may or may not be connected
45:25
Speaker 2: with murders up there in Moscow and money laundering, with
45:30
Speaker 2: selling in money laundering. You know, Banking Fried is connected
45:33
Speaker 2: to a lot of things. And he's also he worked
45:35
Speaker 2: at a Wall Street firm with one of the primary
45:38
Speaker 2: Zizie and cult you know members, where Banking Freed had
45:43
Speaker 2: the largest single day loss in that firm's history. This
45:47
Speaker 2: is not a big firm, so they definitely knew each other.
45:49
Speaker 2: They definitely knew each other. This was the Buckhole. What
45:52
Speaker 2: was the name of the German one the Germans Days? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
45:58
Speaker 2: that was the one. So are you familiar with this
46:02
Speaker 2: group at all? Charles Zizians.
46:05
Speaker 1: I've heard of them, I think if I've heard you
46:06
Speaker 1: mentioned this man and just briefly, but nothing, nothing that deep.
46:12
Speaker 2: I have to thank Nick for really put me onto
46:14
Speaker 2: the subject. I was familiar with the show The Monks, but.
46:17
Speaker 1: Is this the group? There's a lady in Pennsylvania that
46:19
Speaker 1: killed her parents.
46:21
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, yeah, yeah.
46:22
Speaker 1: Okay, cool cool cool, yeah yeah yeah. I think we
46:24
Speaker 1: talked about this on the show briefly. Yeah. I yeah,
46:27
Speaker 1: that the lady killed her parents and she's part of
46:28
Speaker 1: this group that's like AI based and they're like AI heavy, yes, yes,
46:34
Speaker 1: and like yeah this is yeah, okay tracking, we're back,
46:38
Speaker 1: We're there.
46:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can give you the full rundown. He's the one,
46:43
Speaker 2: he's the one who put me on the subject. But
46:44
Speaker 2: it's it's been very intriguing and it connects directly back
46:47
Speaker 2: to wait for the process.
46:51
Speaker 1: Oh so okay, So Nick, what is what's the origin?
46:56
Speaker 1: I guess if you can give me the key players
46:58
Speaker 1: and how did this begin? And what's the because that
47:01
Speaker 1: that that's what matters. Anything. Everything else is like revolving,
47:04
Speaker 1: but the root of it is always the same. What
47:06
Speaker 1: is the root of this?
47:08
Speaker 3: I think most of them they met up in what
47:10
Speaker 3: is that CFR type thing. There was some sort of
47:12
Speaker 3: like kind of like one thing. This is where I
47:14
Speaker 3: got out of it because a lot of a lot
47:16
Speaker 3: of them are all from were in that whole thing.
47:19
Speaker 3: They're part of like some sort of like stuff with
47:21
Speaker 3: regulating AI in a sense as well. Even though they
47:24
Speaker 3: were pro AI, they still thought it needed to be regulated,
47:28
Speaker 3: and a lot of them met each other there and
47:30
Speaker 3: then other people kind of like got involved. But in
47:34
Speaker 3: my opinion, I think it was a lot of that
47:37
Speaker 3: to do with it, because like even though the zizy
47:39
Speaker 3: and person I forgot that, I already forgot their name,
47:42
Speaker 3: the head person. Yeah, it was like, yeah, it was
47:46
Speaker 3: real big into AI, but then it was into like
47:48
Speaker 3: you know, ship with the brain and there's like a
47:50
Speaker 3: good and a bad and a bad good.
47:56
Speaker 1: Each other.
47:57
Speaker 3: Yeah, taking LSD and then when they got caught, they
47:59
Speaker 3: also got hole with like other equipment tool that just
48:02
Speaker 3: doesn't make sense, Like they're up.
48:05
Speaker 1: That's the thing. That's something for sure.
48:06
Speaker 2: Yeah, So they they merked a dude in San Francisco
48:10
Speaker 2: Bay area and they marked that the one members parents
48:14
Speaker 2: in Pennsylvania, and then they marked a word patrol agent Vermont.
48:18
Speaker 2: They have an entire compound of Vermont. Everywhere they go.
48:20
Speaker 2: They have guns, they have they have walkie talkies, they
48:23
Speaker 2: have medical equipment. They're doing fucking Indian burns. Now they're
48:27
Speaker 2: doing what's the name of that, hemispherical tests or whatever. Yeah,
48:33
Speaker 2: with the brain yeah, the brain, but it's like direct
48:36
Speaker 2: out as a MKL for S type ship.
48:38
Speaker 1: How many thinks you're talking about the.
48:43
Speaker 3: They also had something like, uh, what does that think
48:45
Speaker 3: that you use a sonogram? I think they got caught
48:47
Speaker 3: with one of those.
48:48
Speaker 1: These niggas are astral projecting. They're breaking through. Huh.
48:53
Speaker 3: I might have been in a cult aspect to it.
48:55
Speaker 2: I have no dude, they're all very intelligent. Yeah, I
49:01
Speaker 2: think there is. I think there is for sure.
49:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, bro.
49:06
Speaker 2: Well financed somehow. They travel right, some other travel internationally
49:10
Speaker 2: to they're getting across borders and stuff Indic Canada and whatnot.
49:14
Speaker 2: And they all have a lot of them have clearances,
49:18
Speaker 2: high high security clearan.
49:21
Speaker 1: Ding ding ding.
49:23
Speaker 3: Some of those people could be like doing shit like flatliners.
49:26
Speaker 3: That would be the same thing. That would be like,
49:28
Speaker 3: you know, forcing a magical experience without the meditation. You
49:31
Speaker 3: just knock yourself out and bring you back.
49:33
Speaker 2: Yeah, you've mentioned, but you have no idea what these fed.
49:36
Speaker 2: You kind of described that, you've kind of that. Can
49:40
Speaker 2: you kind of describe how that is a magical experience?
49:43
Speaker 3: I just think from my from my own experience after
49:46
Speaker 3: fucking with magic and having magical experiences. When I saw
49:48
Speaker 3: the movie Flatliners, I was like, that's basically just a
49:50
Speaker 3: cheat code. Instead of like going into a deep meditation
49:52
Speaker 3: and clicking out, you're gonna knock yourself out and you're
49:55
Speaker 3: gonna have somebody to revive you after a certain amount
49:57
Speaker 3: of time. So to me, it's the same. I think
49:59
Speaker 3: it's basically the same concept. It's just a little bit
50:01
Speaker 3: more crazy, I think the other way. And just like
50:04
Speaker 3: you know, with these people getting cold with all these
50:05
Speaker 3: medical equipment, I mean, how the fuck do you know
50:07
Speaker 3: they weren't walking around that way? I mean, I do
50:09
Speaker 3: believe that shit's real, and the movie was probably based
50:12
Speaker 3: off of like legit shit too.
50:15
Speaker 1: You know, this one makes me think. It makes me
50:16
Speaker 1: think of the movie Martyrs. If you'll ever seen Martyrs,
50:20
Speaker 1: it's like pushing somebody to the limit of like but
50:24
Speaker 1: still keeping them alive. It's like you basically torture somebody
50:27
Speaker 1: like to the point of death, but they're not dead,
50:30
Speaker 1: to the point where they kind of see Heaven, like
50:32
Speaker 1: Saint Stephen before he died, you know, like they were
50:35
Speaker 1: stone in him, but like heaven opened up and he
50:37
Speaker 1: saw Jesus and God and all this. There's a movie.
50:40
Speaker 1: That's the one, and that's the feeling. It's like the end.
50:43
Speaker 1: I don't want to spoil it if anyone's gonna watch it,
50:44
Speaker 1: but basically that it's there's such a cult aspect to it.
50:48
Speaker 1: It's like pushing somebody physically for a spiritual reward almost.
50:52
Speaker 1: It's like a physical as above. So below there's a physical,
50:56
Speaker 1: there's a spiritual, there's a physical, there's an a cult,
50:59
Speaker 1: there's a hit.
51:00
Speaker 3: You know, I agree with that very much for sure.
51:05
Speaker 3: I mean, that's even very much like shamanistic practices. You're
51:08
Speaker 3: pushing the people to like the break of death or
51:10
Speaker 3: like feeling like expence nd.
51:14
Speaker 2: Right, right, So these are just kind of a different
51:16
Speaker 2: names for the same kind of experiences in circumstances, some
51:20
Speaker 2: some more forced than others, right, some more.
51:24
Speaker 3: That's what I think MK ultra basically is, is doing
51:26
Speaker 3: this to people that they don't even agree. Yeah, you
51:30
Speaker 3: have no idea, are crazy?
51:32
Speaker 1: And it wasn't just acid. It's like we think it's like, oh,
51:35
Speaker 1: these cool, groovy psychedelics, baby, but then you have stories
51:39
Speaker 1: like Nick Olsen who jumped out of a window because
51:41
Speaker 1: he got dosed in the forties by CIA and they
51:44
Speaker 1: were Frank Colston, I should say. And then the dude
51:47
Speaker 1: just like he didn't know. He thought he was like,
51:49
Speaker 1: you know, getting set up, and story goes maybe he
51:52
Speaker 1: was getting set up and dude jumped out a window.
51:54
Speaker 1: There were so many other drugs being you, stuff like SDPE,
51:58
Speaker 1: all these drugs that you were high for days, different methods. Meanwhile,
52:02
Speaker 1: the Russians, what were they doing While Americans were doing
52:05
Speaker 1: the MKA altr The Russians were going the mental route,
52:09
Speaker 1: astro projection studies like out of body experience, near death experiences.
52:14
Speaker 1: They were going in that route, the astro route. All
52:17
Speaker 1: this stuff has something in it, DMT trips. Why are
52:20
Speaker 1: all the Terrence McKenna, Joe Rogan, They pushed DMT in
52:23
Speaker 1: such a way like what need to know? You see
52:26
Speaker 1: like Comedy Central little like when I took DMT, I
52:30
Speaker 1: saw elves and it was like crazy man, And it's like,
52:34
Speaker 1: you do know people take ayauasca as a spiritual like
52:37
Speaker 1: awakening tool. Do you know this is like a natural
52:40
Speaker 1: thing that's that's from like something greater than us and
52:44
Speaker 1: you cheapen it to Yeah, bro, I got this vapen
52:47
Speaker 1: of d MT and I'm just hitting d It's like,
52:49
Speaker 1: you serious.
52:50
Speaker 3: I think you know that.
52:52
Speaker 2: That's a real thing.
52:53
Speaker 3: It's an issue. I think that's from Stanford and Essalon.
52:55
Speaker 1: Basically, that's a great life, that's right there.
53:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not advertising this lush rooms. Oh go ahead,
53:07
Speaker 2: I was gonna change. I'm not advertising this real quick.
53:11
Speaker 2: But you can today go to in Washington, d C.
53:13
Speaker 2: The District of Columbia. You can go and purchase a
53:17
Speaker 2: d M T vaight pan be walking down the sidewalk
53:19
Speaker 2: and just blast off into a different universe we're driving
53:21
Speaker 2: for that matter, where the folks next to you can
53:23
Speaker 2: be doing these things. That's the scary thought. Wow, okay, right,
53:30
Speaker 2: it's scared. It's a how is that legal?
53:34
Speaker 1: Dude?
53:34
Speaker 2: No one needs that. No one needs to just recreationally
53:36
Speaker 2: jump off into a different universe. Bro.
53:39
Speaker 1: The thing is, though, I don't even think the vakes.
53:41
Speaker 1: You don't golf like that. I don't even I don't
53:43
Speaker 1: get the point of the vapes. It's almost like, if
53:45
Speaker 1: I'm going to do D M T, I need like
53:47
Speaker 1: a full experience and I need a trip. I don't
53:50
Speaker 1: need a little like op. It's like, what's I don't whatever,
53:55
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, am I getting getting old.
53:59
Speaker 3: No, I remember, remember we use that shit as when
54:02
Speaker 3: we were younger, there was like there was supposed to
54:03
Speaker 3: be an experience that was going along with it. It
54:06
Speaker 3: was just like, oh, you know, I'm not doing anything
54:07
Speaker 3: right now, I'll just take some asks well street, Oh
54:10
Speaker 3: for me, you know, there was always like something with
54:13
Speaker 3: it as well.
54:15
Speaker 2: I was more of a I was more of a
54:16
Speaker 2: natural flipper than a candy flipper myself.
54:20
Speaker 1: Candy flipping is my goodness.
54:22
Speaker 2: I remember that, and I mean I've done both, but
54:27
Speaker 2: on a note of natural flipping, which would be mushrooms
54:30
Speaker 2: instead of asked. And let's let's take a quick time
54:33
Speaker 2: travel back to nineteen fifty seven when they published this
54:36
Speaker 2: Life magazine article. No one knew that, you know, the
54:39
Speaker 2: loose families, mister Skull and Bones who owned this magazine
54:42
Speaker 2: right is perpetrating these psychedelic ideas.
54:44
Speaker 1: They were.
54:45
Speaker 2: They perpetrated the LSD and they perpetrated the mushrooms through
54:48
Speaker 2: Life magazine here, so and no one knew this fella
54:51
Speaker 2: right here is telling everybody, hey, you should do these mushrooms.
54:53
Speaker 2: It's a fucking good time. I mean, don't get me wrong,
54:55
Speaker 2: I've had a lot of good times on mushrooms. So
54:56
Speaker 2: I'm a little bit on the fence on these subjects,
54:58
Speaker 2: but I don't think they're I think the they haven't
55:00
Speaker 2: used where they're being framed improperly and perpetrate on us
55:03
Speaker 2: on the population as such. Do you think there are
55:07
Speaker 2: benefits there?
55:07
Speaker 3: Are there?
55:08
Speaker 2: Are you agree with you on Allen Charles? Do you
55:11
Speaker 2: find some use in utility to yea yeah, no, no.
55:15
Speaker 1: Bro, yeah, I don't mean to cut you off the No,
55:17
Speaker 1: you're one thousand.
55:18
Speaker 2: Percent right, No, go ahead, I think my connection's bad,
55:20
Speaker 2: so go ahead.
55:21
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we got a weird like No, I think
55:23
Speaker 1: you're one thousand percent right, dude. This makes me think
55:25
Speaker 1: of Maria Sabina going back to Mexico. She did this,
55:29
Speaker 1: that's yeah, So this isn't this is it? This is it?
55:33
Speaker 2: So it's like the yeah, the story of that, right.
55:37
Speaker 1: Okay, perfect? So there it is great, great story, great minds.
55:40
Speaker 1: Thinking like it's almost like why is this being pushed
55:43
Speaker 1: like this? Like why you know this stuff existed before
55:48
Speaker 1: all these like alchemic rituals have been a thing since
55:52
Speaker 1: days past that it's nothing new. Taking in Theeagians, you know,
55:56
Speaker 1: breaking into the new world. The Hero's journey. This is
56:00
Speaker 1: nothing new, But why is it being promoted the way
56:03
Speaker 1: it is? Why is it being pushed in such a direction.
56:06
Speaker 1: I think it's ultimately that control, bro, because these are
56:09
Speaker 1: the same tools that can feed you if used according
56:13
Speaker 1: to nature. Yes, they can free you. They can make
56:15
Speaker 1: you think clearly, you can ease up and see things
56:18
Speaker 1: for what they are if used properly. But when you don't,
56:22
Speaker 1: it's getting exactly it's weapon exactly, that's right, Brent, mister Brent,
56:27
Speaker 1: is getting weaponized. You're weaponizing culture. You're weaponizing drugs, for sure.
56:31
Speaker 1: Well I'm not drugs. You're weaponizing nature medicine.
56:37
Speaker 2: Oh no, for sure. And well I hear if you
56:39
Speaker 2: think about this too, that Charles knowing, We're like this
56:43
Speaker 2: is the benefit I guess we do have today with
56:44
Speaker 2: this influx of information and being inundata, we do have
56:47
Speaker 2: the availability of information, and much like these mushrooms, we
56:50
Speaker 2: can use that to our advantage where we can use
56:52
Speaker 2: it improperly. The way it's packaged and sold to us
56:54
Speaker 2: is the way I look at it, right, So, like
56:56
Speaker 2: I said, I'm I'm I don't I'm not a you know,
57:00
Speaker 2: don't I don't hate technology? Like, I hate answer machines.
57:02
Speaker 2: I've never used answer machines. You leave me a voicemail,
57:05
Speaker 2: Go fuck yourself. I'm never coming. Just just because the
57:08
Speaker 2: technologies invented, you can't force me to use it. But
57:11
Speaker 2: I will selectively choose sex technologies and what's to use
57:13
Speaker 2: to my advantage, and I'll use things like these and
57:15
Speaker 2: theogens and mushrooms. But what I'm saying is, due to
57:18
Speaker 2: the information we have to day, we now know that
57:20
Speaker 2: this fella here was the vice president of public relations
57:24
Speaker 2: or propaganda for JP Morgan Chase. He was the head
57:28
Speaker 2: of the Council on Foreign Relations. But yet he's the
57:31
Speaker 2: guy who went on Life magazine on a journey to
57:33
Speaker 2: Mexico to go meet that Maria Sabing, a lady you're
57:36
Speaker 2: talking about. Tell everybody you gotta do mushrooms. And notice
57:40
Speaker 2: the how they kind of, uh, you know, pull some
57:42
Speaker 2: more magic shit onto here and talk about teenage allowances. Right,
57:47
Speaker 2: So they're like complying that this is for teenagers, right,
57:51
Speaker 2: Great adventures in the discovery of mushrooms that cause strange
57:54
Speaker 2: visions space teenage allowances. It's a separate article about whether
57:59
Speaker 2: or not teenager needs allowances, But Nonetheless, it's the implications
58:03
Speaker 2: that I think that it's there is what I'm saying.
58:06
Speaker 2: So what you see, I'm saying, no one knew that
58:08
Speaker 2: in nineteen fifty seven, this was a dude who ran
58:11
Speaker 2: pop propaganda for the biggest bank, who was the head
58:14
Speaker 2: of the Council on Foreign Relations, you know what I mean.
58:16
Speaker 2: But we look back now and see that that was
58:18
Speaker 2: the case. He was working for a skullin bonesman who
58:21
Speaker 2: owned Life magazine, and we see where these ideas come from.
58:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, it's the same old story, bro, the same
58:29
Speaker 1: old story. You control the lovers of power, Okay, scull
58:32
Speaker 1: and Bones, Like you just said, for example, you strategically
58:36
Speaker 1: put your members in keep places and they perpetuate the agenda. Yeah,
58:42
Speaker 1: and that's what it is. You perpetuate the agenda bite
58:44
Speaker 1: through control. You put people in church, you put people
58:47
Speaker 1: in the synagogue, in the mosque, you put people in schools,
58:51
Speaker 1: in legal court houses, okay, you put people in police stations.
58:55
Speaker 1: A lot of police are freemasons, that's the thing. A
58:58
Speaker 1: lot of lawyers are freemasons, that's the thing. And people
59:00
Speaker 1: in the military have like oaths to different orders and such.
59:04
Speaker 1: The Knights of Malta things like that, like these are
59:08
Speaker 1: all things like these people are among us, you know,
59:11
Speaker 1: they have they have duties, they have like oats to
59:15
Speaker 1: uphold this normal life is like secondary to what they have.
59:20
Speaker 1: They have a mission and who gives them their mission?
59:23
Speaker 1: Like you said, the CFR, the Rockefellers, the same usual people.
59:27
Speaker 1: But who gives them their mission? Where does that come from?
59:31
Speaker 1: If you ask me, you go back to the enoch Genesis.
59:35
Speaker 1: It's that kind of thing, the fall of man, the
59:39
Speaker 1: transfer of information from up above somewhere else two people,
59:44
Speaker 1: you know, Atlantis, if you will, all that, it's all
59:47
Speaker 1: that same thing. Man.
59:50
Speaker 2: Yeah, Now, I think you're in some great points there.
59:54
Speaker 2: And I think you know as much to say about
59:55
Speaker 2: the skull and Bones being kind of sterized and conspiracy culture,
1:00:00
Speaker 2: there is a lot to be said about that. And
1:00:01
Speaker 2: I think, like you just described to the folks, like
1:00:05
Speaker 2: they serve a purpose within this network or system that
1:00:08
Speaker 2: we call our modern society in the Western world, and
1:00:12
Speaker 2: these calling bonesmen, I think they're up at the top
1:00:14
Speaker 2: as far as district managers go, if you will, and
1:00:17
Speaker 2: the ones imposing certain values within culture and making certain decisions,
1:00:21
Speaker 2: and it's across the spectrum. It really is so. And
1:00:25
Speaker 2: to emphasize that example, are you Famier with the fella
1:00:27
Speaker 2: named Stephen Mnuchin. Yes, former Treasury secretary for the Trump
1:00:34
Speaker 2: first administration. You're producer of a production company on Warner
1:00:39
Speaker 2: Brothers Law and responsible for almost every hit you can
1:00:43
Speaker 2: think of from Syka nineteen ninety six to twenty fifteen
1:00:47
Speaker 2: that came out of Warner Brothers. Yes, ye was a
1:00:50
Speaker 2: Brett Ratner Stephen Manuchin production damn. And he's a Skoll
1:00:56
Speaker 2: and bonesman. So you seem at the top of Finance
1:00:58
Speaker 2: and Wall Street. Steven Hollywood, it's the top of the
1:01:01
Speaker 2: production of these films for a decade and a half.
1:01:03
Speaker 2: Right again, Rush Hour? You everyone seen Rush Hour with
1:01:06
Speaker 2: Jackie Chan and Chris TuS. I mean that's Steven Brett
1:01:10
Speaker 2: Ratner production. Cha, it's I agree that maybe still plays today.
1:01:18
Speaker 2: I think that's a good series. I'm not saying they
1:01:20
Speaker 2: made bad films, don't get me wrong.
1:01:22
Speaker 1: I mean I got a question for y'all. Why does
1:01:25
Speaker 1: the Asian shooter? Why does the Asian bad guy always
1:01:29
Speaker 1: have blonde hair or some kind of colored hair. It's
1:01:33
Speaker 1: always like blond hair, Asian dude, that's the bad guy.
1:01:38
Speaker 2: Give me an example. What we talking about? The guy
1:01:40
Speaker 2: from the.
1:01:41
Speaker 1: Fresh Hour, the first Yeah, the first one. The dude
1:01:45
Speaker 1: have blonde hair.
1:01:46
Speaker 2: He was evil, Yeah he was, wasn't he He was?
1:01:50
Speaker 2: He was in a couple of movies around that time,
1:01:52
Speaker 2: wasn't he.
1:01:53
Speaker 1: Yeah, Stephen Minuc he's just evil as is. He's just
1:01:59
Speaker 1: one of those bangers.
1:02:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, he looks. He looks creepy, doesn't he look at him?
1:02:04
Speaker 1: He looks.
1:02:05
Speaker 2: I'm not even Charles, I'm not gonna lie to you.
1:02:07
Speaker 2: I don't think I got a muppetize him. He already
1:02:09
Speaker 2: looks like am It looks like character, just doesn't he
1:02:17
Speaker 2: He doesn't come on? He look at him. I mean,
1:02:19
Speaker 2: he looks silly. You know, he's he's clearly batting, you know,
1:02:23
Speaker 2: he's clearly you know, you know, bat out of the
1:02:25
Speaker 2: park there with his wife. If he didn't have that money.
1:02:28
Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying. Is he he attracted, you know,
1:02:31
Speaker 2: you intracting that wife he's got. He famously posed with her,
1:02:36
Speaker 2: they went to they went to they went to Fort
1:02:37
Speaker 2: Knox and posed with some gold bars. If you recall,
1:02:40
Speaker 2: early on in the Trump administration, him and his wife dead.
1:02:43
Speaker 1: Damn what else do Yale University scholar.
1:02:51
Speaker 2: I mean it's weird goes on and this guy is
1:02:53
Speaker 2: definitely involved in it, right in this world.
1:02:55
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they all are man just like our current
1:02:59
Speaker 1: letting Lutnix another of all of them. They're all part
1:03:02
Speaker 1: of the scheme. And then we got Bongino's, we got
1:03:05
Speaker 1: the cash, just stooges giving it real. Right, these people
1:03:10
Speaker 1: are all puppets, man, just different degrees. Like you said,
1:03:13
Speaker 1: Masons are like certain level of management. And then you
1:03:16
Speaker 1: got guys like Menuchin other level of management, skullm bonesman
1:03:20
Speaker 1: on the level of bush. Okay, We've had presidents come
1:03:24
Speaker 1: from skull and bones judges, Supreme Court judges come from
1:03:28
Speaker 1: skull and bones. Okay, federal level officials, it is what
1:03:32
Speaker 1: it is, that's how they do it.
1:03:33
Speaker 2: We've had a president and.
1:03:38
Speaker 1: Oh go ahead, no, no, please, please go ahead, go ahead.
1:03:42
Speaker 2: I'm cutting I apologism cutting in out of here. Yeah.
1:03:44
Speaker 2: We Well, we had one guy who was the only
1:03:47
Speaker 2: president of the United States and chief of Supreme Court. Right,
1:03:49
Speaker 2: and he's the grandson of the founder, right of the
1:03:52
Speaker 2: sculling bones. Right, fons are halfs grandson, William Howard Naft.
1:03:56
Speaker 2: That's right, would you believe we have some more taft
1:04:01
Speaker 2: folks at the heart of the grunge rock counterculture.
1:04:04
Speaker 1: Boy, dude, how about David Crosby being related to the founders.
1:04:10
Speaker 1: It's like all these people are connected, Bro, I'm pretty
1:04:14
Speaker 1: sure it was. Uh who was he connected to? He
1:04:15
Speaker 1: was connected to one of the presidents? Ah, a lot
1:04:20
Speaker 1: of them.
1:04:21
Speaker 2: He's a Van Cortland.
1:04:23
Speaker 1: What, yes, Yeah, he's one of those. Yeah, he's a
1:04:26
Speaker 1: colonial Like he goes back to the colonists. Like they're
1:04:28
Speaker 1: all tight end, bro, either government or like all those
1:04:33
Speaker 1: old families. It's crazy. But tell me about the grunge connection. Well,
1:04:36
Speaker 1: what's please?
1:04:38
Speaker 2: Well, no, you're your spot. No you do. You're You're
1:04:40
Speaker 2: way closer than you even imagine there, Charles. So what
1:04:43
Speaker 2: you're saying is Crosby's from the original families of New
1:04:45
Speaker 2: Amsterdam now New York.
1:04:48
Speaker 1: Okay, lot.
1:04:51
Speaker 2: I covered these topics a lot on Operation GCD with
1:04:53
Speaker 2: the Society of the Cincinnati, the secret society that started America. Now,
1:04:58
Speaker 2: I don't have a membership car for David Crosby, but
1:05:01
Speaker 2: I have strong suspicions he was a member based upon
1:05:04
Speaker 2: his family's free there and again, these these families are
1:05:07
Speaker 2: pointing out now I'm doing that's a new series I'm
1:05:10
Speaker 2: working on also, the occult genealogy of America. So all
1:05:15
Speaker 2: these major occult figures or even figures like the Lordle
1:05:18
Speaker 2: Canyon scene, right, who brought us these new countercultures like
1:05:20
Speaker 2: David Crosby and how they all seem to come back
1:05:23
Speaker 2: to the same place. Right, But that goes for the
1:05:25
Speaker 2: ground scene as well. So we're talking about New York
1:05:27
Speaker 2: and Crosby's heritage there and what was once New Amsterdam, Right,
1:05:31
Speaker 2: So when it was New Amsterdam, would you believe that
1:05:35
Speaker 2: this so we're talking like circa sixteen to fifty, we'll
1:05:38
Speaker 2: call it. Would you believe that Kurt Cobaine's ancestor Cobaine,
1:05:43
Speaker 2: Eddie Vetter's ancestor Vetter, and Chris Cornell's ancestor Cornell all
1:05:48
Speaker 2: knew each other in New York City then New Amsterdam
1:05:52
Speaker 2: in and around sixteen.
1:05:53
Speaker 1: To fifty were they playing guitar together?
1:05:56
Speaker 2: You mean to tell me, well, these guys are doing politics.
1:06:00
Speaker 2: Was a mayor and the sheriff. The other guy was
1:06:02
Speaker 2: a you know, some sort of some sort of district
1:06:04
Speaker 2: manager of some sort. So you need to tell me
1:06:07
Speaker 2: nearly three you know, three hundred plus years later, three
1:06:11
Speaker 2: thirty years later, thirty five years later, these folks, descendants
1:06:15
Speaker 2: direct descendants of these same surnames are going to be
1:06:18
Speaker 2: the largest, biggest rock stars in this new thing called
1:06:21
Speaker 2: Seattle Grange.
1:06:22
Speaker 1: Come on, Yeah, yeah, a little too coincidental. It's a
1:06:26
Speaker 1: little too aligned for me.
1:06:28
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is a that's interesting.
1:06:32
Speaker 2: It's pretty wild, right, it's really crazy, fucked up.
1:06:38
Speaker 1: That's really fucked up. I the more you get into,
1:06:42
Speaker 1: the more I'm just like, what is actually like authentic
1:06:45
Speaker 1: as far as art, what is actually like, Wow, this
1:06:48
Speaker 1: this man or woman actually is just who they say
1:06:51
Speaker 1: they are, not somebody connected to I don't know, a
1:06:55
Speaker 1: demonic entity.
1:06:59
Speaker 2: Right right now, I think you're it's a good question.
1:07:07
Speaker 2: That's crazy or what's not connected to what's connected to
1:07:11
Speaker 2: an intelligence project? Right? How they largely financed the the
1:07:15
Speaker 2: sixties art world and Andy Warhol and Jackson Pollock before
1:07:19
Speaker 2: that and to quote unquote fight communism, right you know?
1:07:23
Speaker 2: And uh, you know, so it's a good question. You
1:07:26
Speaker 2: asked their Charles and I would say, if I you know,
1:07:28
Speaker 2: you can't even look uh you know at a hero
1:07:31
Speaker 2: like uh Steven Sagoll, for example, and say like, this
1:07:35
Speaker 2: is not a manufactured situation. So what I'm saying is
1:07:38
Speaker 2: not all manufactured situations, you know, come off the same
1:07:42
Speaker 2: way as what I'm describing there before, but some of them,
1:07:45
Speaker 2: you know, they come off really terrible, but they're still manufactured.
1:07:48
Speaker 2: So apparently, h even this guy is part of a
1:07:51
Speaker 2: I guess what essentially would be a siop in a sense. Right,
1:07:53
Speaker 2: So apparently if you all familiar with the backstory of
1:07:56
Speaker 2: the legendary Steven Sagoll, Right, there was a Hollywood agent
1:07:59
Speaker 2: that was like, can make anybody a store made a
1:08:01
Speaker 2: bet with another Hollywood agent and they're like all right,
1:08:03
Speaker 2: and they're like, hey, this dick head teaches this martial
1:08:05
Speaker 2: arts class, Let's make him a star. And we got
1:08:10
Speaker 2: Steven sigh as a result of that. So even that's
1:08:15
Speaker 2: even that's manufactured, right.
1:08:18
Speaker 1: What isn't? Man, Well, what's not manufactured? Like, there's so
1:08:21
Speaker 1: many like things put before us that are just so off. Yeah,
1:08:26
Speaker 1: what's what exactly what the fuck is up with that wig?
1:08:30
Speaker 1: What's up with that hair? He had nappy hair almost
1:08:33
Speaker 1: he looked like a nappy headed hole a little bit
1:08:35
Speaker 1: due he is.
1:08:40
Speaker 2: It's funny, he is such a weird dude. He is
1:08:43
Speaker 2: an absolute weird dude.
1:08:45
Speaker 1: He got the v going on.
1:08:48
Speaker 2: Dude's way, that's natural, you know what I mean, he'll
1:08:50
Speaker 2: pop on some different wigs, dude, Like he's wearing the weirdest,
1:08:53
Speaker 2: you know, the outfits he wears, the water wild you know.
1:08:57
Speaker 1: Wow.
1:09:01
Speaker 2: Oh, dude, I was kind of thinking that too with
1:09:03
Speaker 2: that point he right, that pointed nature. That's but again,
1:09:05
Speaker 2: that's clearly a wig. I mean, it's it's preposterous, right.
1:09:09
Speaker 1: Do you think it's a wig? You don't think?
1:09:12
Speaker 2: There's no way that's real, dude, There's no way that
1:09:15
Speaker 2: I will show you. Dude, he was losing his hair
1:09:17
Speaker 2: back in the early nineties. Dude, there's no way that's real.
1:09:21
Speaker 2: No way it looks like that, right, yeah, look.
1:09:26
Speaker 1: At that, Look at that, but look at that, Look
1:09:28
Speaker 1: at his face. What happened? Okay, So there was Jean
1:09:31
Speaker 1: Claude Van Daim, there was Steven Sigal, there was Jackie Chan.
1:09:38
Speaker 2: I mean, what happened Chuck Norris, Dude, Chuck Norris is
1:09:43
Speaker 2: a legend. Chuck Norris to ye Air Force, Air Force
1:09:46
Speaker 2: Security Forces veteran Chuck Norris. Yeah, yeah, wow, not nearly
1:09:53
Speaker 2: as skilled as this man, no facetious. Are you familiar?
1:10:01
Speaker 2: Are you, Charles? Have you ever gotten into much of
1:10:03
Speaker 2: the Iran contrary business?
1:10:07
Speaker 1: No, not too much. I like the early like Mohammed
1:10:10
Speaker 1: Mosadic time of around, like back when around was just
1:10:13
Speaker 1: its tone thing and the people just really wanted a
1:10:17
Speaker 1: but cia and you know, Great Britain said b And
1:10:21
Speaker 1: then you know, but tell me about the nine years yeah, yes, yeah,
1:10:27
Speaker 1: the fifty yes, yes, the early.
1:10:32
Speaker 2: No, tell yeah, tell us about that, because that that
1:10:35
Speaker 2: cia Q was integral to what would later, you know,
1:10:38
Speaker 2: be the motivating natures of what we you know, at
1:10:41
Speaker 2: least the elements of the federal government here in America
1:10:44
Speaker 2: would describe as we need to do this to fight
1:10:47
Speaker 2: those people. But they're the ones who installed those.
1:10:49
Speaker 1: People, right exactly, yeah, and exactly these started the iatola, right, yes,
1:10:56
Speaker 1: and this is nineteen fifty three, like they said, fifties
1:10:59
Speaker 1: around like yeah, mom, and Mosk elected leader of the people.
1:11:03
Speaker 1: People liked him. He wanted to basically bring back the oil.
1:11:07
Speaker 1: The oil was being used by Great Britain, by everybody.
1:11:10
Speaker 1: The oil was being horrid out. It was like Africa,
1:11:12
Speaker 1: just like any African nation under colonial control, your resources
1:11:16
Speaker 1: are getting hold out by the French, the Belgians, the
1:11:18
Speaker 1: English whatever. In this case it was the English British
1:11:22
Speaker 1: Petroleum taken in all that oil. Mosadec was like, hey,
1:11:26
Speaker 1: this is our oil. We're not gaining anything from any
1:11:28
Speaker 1: of these deals. How about this we clean back our
1:11:31
Speaker 1: oil and they could buy from us, so we could
1:11:33
Speaker 1: do like actual deals where we profit and other people
1:11:36
Speaker 1: get business like you know, like normal trade. How about
1:11:39
Speaker 1: we do that? And that was no go for the CIA.
1:11:45
Speaker 1: That's yeah, they don't like that. They don't like that. Yep,
1:11:52
Speaker 1: nationalizing oil exactly, and that was a no go.
1:11:58
Speaker 2: That I a Q right with the uh the iotol
1:12:03
Speaker 2: right with this extremist kind of fella, right.
1:12:05
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, there's BP. Yeah, it was exactly
1:12:08
Speaker 1: Anglo Persian oil company at the time. But yeah, BP
1:12:11
Speaker 1: British Petroleum. Yeah, they got most of that right out,
1:12:15
Speaker 1: and then they put the puppet right in in this place.
1:12:19
Speaker 1: What a shame.
1:12:20
Speaker 2: He was involved in New York Society Family chapter the Roosevelts.
1:12:25
Speaker 1: Wow, Cincinnati folks, right, Cincinnatis folks, Cincinnati.
1:12:32
Speaker 2: The Roosevelt's, ah, for sure, Yeah, the New York chapter
1:12:36
Speaker 2: specifically those those those Dutch families are a Dutch family.
1:12:40
Speaker 2: So we had the nineteen fifty three Iranian que Tata, right, Yeah,
1:12:45
Speaker 2: that's the one deckats Houston.
1:12:48
Speaker 1: That's the one. They got him out. Yeah, and it's
1:12:52
Speaker 1: all of course fake supporters. Ajax. That's what it was,
1:12:55
Speaker 1: Operation Ajax. That's the one. That's the one. And then
1:12:59
Speaker 1: and then the see this time and time, folks like
1:13:01
Speaker 1: this isn't new exactly like you said, Gadafi Like my
1:13:05
Speaker 1: time in the Siri Leone, I traveled over to sierri
1:13:07
Speaker 1: Leone a few years ago and saw a mosque and
1:13:12
Speaker 1: like a road and just infrastructure like projects started by Gaddafi,
1:13:16
Speaker 1: and people there were asking me like you know, like hey,
1:13:19
Speaker 1: like why do you like Americans? Why do you guys
1:13:21
Speaker 1: hate Gadafi so much? And you know, my answer was like, well,
1:13:25
Speaker 1: he's a terrorist. And I was a teenager at the time.
1:13:28
Speaker 1: I'm like, I guess he's like a terrorist. He kills people,
1:13:31
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. And it's like he kills people,
1:13:33
Speaker 1: like he's over here building things like look at this mosque,
1:13:36
Speaker 1: like he built this. Do you see the marble? Do
1:13:39
Speaker 1: you see how it's like do you see this?
1:13:40
Speaker 2: He did this?
1:13:41
Speaker 1: Water? He's given us water, like he's trying to build
1:13:44
Speaker 1: an infrastructure, Like, why would you guys, like you know,
1:13:47
Speaker 1: take him out like that he's a terrorist.
1:13:50
Speaker 2: Well he was a nationalist, right, he was a nationalist exactly.
1:13:54
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a Hitler type. And we don't want that.
1:13:56
Speaker 1: We don't want people that say, hey, this is our
1:13:58
Speaker 1: nation and some what's his name in Venezuela, Chavez, you
1:14:03
Speaker 1: just pick a name. They have them. And some guys
1:14:05
Speaker 1: are bad, and some guys are put up to be
1:14:08
Speaker 1: a certain way. But the ones that are actually true,
1:14:11
Speaker 1: like Patrice la Mumba in Congo in Africa, they get
1:14:15
Speaker 1: rid of those guys, get rid of him. The loud
1:14:18
Speaker 1: mounts who like stand up, Oh yeah, people get rid
1:14:21
Speaker 1: of them.
1:14:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, boy, that's the that's the playbook, right.
1:14:25
Speaker 2: You see I in this right here it says I
1:14:28
Speaker 2: am sex right, And you can look at the list
1:14:30
Speaker 2: of names here. I see at least three members of
1:14:32
Speaker 2: the Society, the Cincinnati, including Winston Churchill, and I often
1:14:35
Speaker 2: argue there's an anti liberty faction of the society and
1:14:38
Speaker 2: it is imposed through I six the CIA, and one
1:14:41
Speaker 2: of their puppets is the Processed Church of the Final Judgment,
1:14:43
Speaker 2: which includes more society families, specifically from New York. Go figure,
1:14:48
Speaker 2: but we see these things, right. What you're describing is
1:14:52
Speaker 2: we this outfit is installing these folks Godolfi, who's Saddami
1:14:56
Speaker 2: saying Hugo Chavez.
1:14:57
Speaker 1: Right.
1:14:57
Speaker 2: The list goes on, right, and then we're like, hey,
1:15:01
Speaker 2: this guy sucks. We need to fight them. And usually
1:15:03
Speaker 2: it's because the person they installed just says, hey, look,
1:15:05
Speaker 2: I'm not going to sell you our nation's resources for
1:15:10
Speaker 2: a penny, so you all and go fuck yourself. And
1:15:13
Speaker 2: here in America, I wish we could adapt that attitude.
1:15:15
Speaker 2: For example, the French corporation Nestley has had a long
1:15:19
Speaker 2: term contract purchasing large, large volumes of water in spring
1:15:23
Speaker 2: water from the state of California, owned by the people,
1:15:27
Speaker 2: the taxpayers of the state of California, but purchased at
1:15:30
Speaker 2: nicols on the tens of thousands of dollars, and they
1:15:33
Speaker 2: do so during what they impose on folks in the
1:15:35
Speaker 2: state of California as a drought. So we've been selling
1:15:38
Speaker 2: out these nations resources for a long time here in America.
1:15:43
Speaker 2: I think that's what it boils down to, right with
1:15:44
Speaker 2: these other leaders and Iran. But it then it then
1:15:47
Speaker 2: perpetrates the reason why they can go to war with
1:15:50
Speaker 2: these folks, right and then make more money.
1:15:51
Speaker 3: Right.
1:15:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it goes man. We came, we saw he died. Yeah,
1:16:00
Speaker 1: pretty much. Good old Hillary Clinton quote yeah.
1:16:07
Speaker 2: I rank oh well yeah, yeah. She was involved in
1:16:10
Speaker 2: the whole Godolphie thing, right. Yeah, she said that, didn't
1:16:12
Speaker 2: she about Godelphie? Yeah, and her the Olsen Twins from
1:16:16
Speaker 2: Full House. Her brother in law, uh, the former French
1:16:19
Speaker 2: president got brought up on charges for that same business.
1:16:22
Speaker 2: Hillary Clinton did not.
1:16:24
Speaker 1: Damn, Yeah, of course not. She's you know Jesz's song
1:16:29
Speaker 1: Dirt off your Shoulders, that's her. She just keeps them
1:16:32
Speaker 1: shoulders clean. She's good.
1:16:37
Speaker 2: Isn't that a weird sentenced? Charles, the star of Full House,
1:16:40
Speaker 2: one of the Olsen Twins brother in law was involved
1:16:43
Speaker 2: in the assassination of my mare Godolphine with Hillary Clinton.
1:16:46
Speaker 2: That's a that's a convert that's a sentence. In the nineties,
1:16:49
Speaker 2: I would have told you that sounds bat shit crazy, Charles.
1:16:51
Speaker 1: That's exactly exactly two thousand.
1:16:57
Speaker 4: But here we are today, Like what, bro, you let's
1:17:02
Speaker 4: quite the fire?
1:17:03
Speaker 1: Bro? Yeah you're crazy?
1:17:06
Speaker 2: Right?
1:17:07
Speaker 1: Wow? No, not now it is bro, that's you.
1:17:12
Speaker 2: You know, like, did you ever hear about Iran contra
1:17:15
Speaker 2: at all? Was this the subject you recall hearing about
1:17:16
Speaker 2: in America at all growing up? Or you know, probably
1:17:19
Speaker 2: maybe maybe the conspiracy culture did the well.
1:17:23
Speaker 1: First off, see I saw that propaganda movie with Ben Affleck.
1:17:26
Speaker 1: Of course I saw the efforts the lead our Argo.
1:17:33
Speaker 2: That was the name of the operation Operation.
1:17:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's the Argo. Yeah, so I saw I
1:17:38
Speaker 1: saw the propaganda film to kind of get the taste.
1:17:40
Speaker 1: But yeah, getting people like last minute, getting people out,
1:17:44
Speaker 1: just the whole uprising, aotola coming in, like the whole
1:17:48
Speaker 1: thing being a fraud, something being off about it. What
1:17:51
Speaker 1: can what what can you educate me on that? Please?
1:17:56
Speaker 2: Now you're bringing up some highlights of the initial longstead
1:17:58
Speaker 2: of these this town fool reset it spins off into
1:18:00
Speaker 2: this worldwide drug and gun trafficking situation largely operated m
1:18:05
Speaker 2: I six and the c I as we saw before
1:18:06
Speaker 2: with the coup there and I ran and you know
1:18:08
Speaker 2: this is when they go save some folks, they the
1:18:11
Speaker 2: uh you know, the October surprise. It convince them not
1:18:14
Speaker 2: to release them until after the election of Reagan from Carter.
1:18:17
Speaker 2: Then you know there's some probably some ability to do that.
1:18:20
Speaker 2: You know, Steal Team six is born out of this event.
1:18:23
Speaker 2: You know, Operation Equal Equal Call I think was the
1:18:26
Speaker 2: name of the operation. Ross Perrot would famously hire a
1:18:30
Speaker 2: bunch of other mercenaries here in America and then fly
1:18:32
Speaker 2: over there himself to save his own people. What he
1:18:35
Speaker 2: was doing over there, I don't know, but this was
1:18:38
Speaker 2: this would spin off and further, you know, these activities
1:18:40
Speaker 2: would continue to evolve, and by the eighties they're dealing
1:18:43
Speaker 2: coke across America to quote unquote fight communism across the world, right,
1:18:49
Speaker 2: which I think is that's just again a convenient thing
1:18:51
Speaker 2: to say when you've created these these environments in the
1:18:54
Speaker 2: first place, with these quote unquote desk boat leaders. Ye
1:18:57
Speaker 2: all they install, right, so what I'm saying, it's all
1:19:00
Speaker 2: part of the same machine. But they were just sold
1:19:02
Speaker 2: as this idea, we got to fight these assholes. But
1:19:04
Speaker 2: now you guys put these assholes in power, and you're
1:19:06
Speaker 2: the one pissing them off, and you're the one doing
1:19:08
Speaker 2: all this to get to do hood rash hit and
1:19:10
Speaker 2: deal drugs and guns. And that's what boils down to
1:19:12
Speaker 2: and continues on through hearings in the early nineteen nineties,
1:19:16
Speaker 2: and you know, I remember a little bit then, and
1:19:17
Speaker 2: I you know, I got into conspiracy culture of the
1:19:19
Speaker 2: mid nineties, and you know, I remember reading about these
1:19:21
Speaker 2: kind of things, but you know, you know, I thought
1:19:24
Speaker 2: it was something that largely had gone away. And you know,
1:19:27
Speaker 2: over time it's like these things still definitely plague garnation.
1:19:29
Speaker 2: Nothing really gets resolved, no one really gets held accountable,
1:19:32
Speaker 2: do they these danks?
1:19:33
Speaker 1: Right? Meanwhile, Burrus Seals is flying you know, pure cocaena
1:19:39
Speaker 1: from South America to every States or the CIA, and
1:19:42
Speaker 1: then we're and then the CIA is pushing that over
1:19:45
Speaker 1: to the head muckety muck of the streets. And then
1:19:48
Speaker 1: that guy, being an informant being, of course a puppet
1:19:52
Speaker 1: of the government, is running all these things in the streets.
1:19:55
Speaker 1: You like, the point of contact. You're the the face,
1:19:58
Speaker 1: You're the liaison between the government and the actual boots
1:20:02
Speaker 1: on the ground, so to speak. It's all operations. The
1:20:05
Speaker 1: boots on the ground is actual people living in the streets.
1:20:08
Speaker 1: Let's say New York City, California. You go back to
1:20:11
Speaker 1: the eighties, Okay, yeah, it's a hell of a drug.
1:20:15
Speaker 1: You go back to the eighties with crack like Where
1:20:18
Speaker 1: were these people getting coke from? Yeah? Who gave them
1:20:21
Speaker 1: the ingredients to make crack? Do you think these niggas
1:20:23
Speaker 1: came up with us on their own?
1:20:26
Speaker 2: No, that didn't, Freeway Rick Ral says it himself, They didn't.
1:20:29
Speaker 2: He said, he'd tell He tells everybody today now out
1:20:31
Speaker 2: of prison. It was a CIA. It was these operations.
1:20:33
Speaker 2: It was the Mediine coke, the Pablo Escobar coke, right,
1:20:37
Speaker 2: and the same stuff that cocaine Bob Evans was dealing
1:20:40
Speaker 2: in Hollywood and Serra nineteen eighty three with Roy raidin
1:20:43
Speaker 2: which solicited that man's murder, saying, that's a processed church
1:20:46
Speaker 2: related son, the same activity, you know, MultiMate evil on
1:20:49
Speaker 2: his own, that's what you're saying. And what I'm trying
1:20:52
Speaker 2: to get at is these things affect every aspect of
1:20:55
Speaker 2: our society, from Hollywood to the hood, right with the
1:20:59
Speaker 2: crack epidemic, right, you know what I mean? In effect,
1:21:02
Speaker 2: And it's all the same. But it's we look at
1:21:04
Speaker 2: him almost as separate conversations. It's all the same thing.
1:21:07
Speaker 1: It's all the same thing. It's just a different department
1:21:10
Speaker 1: of the same thing. You've got the d O D, right,
1:21:13
Speaker 1: the d D as the Air Force, has got the Navy,
1:21:15
Speaker 1: he's got the army. It's all the thing. And even
1:21:18
Speaker 1: in the army, you've got the medics, you've got flight line,
1:21:21
Speaker 1: you've got security forces, you've got the people who do
1:21:24
Speaker 1: you know, You've got different sectors, but it's all the
1:21:27
Speaker 1: same thing. It's all the same mission.
1:21:29
Speaker 2: You know. That's a good way to look at it.
1:21:32
Speaker 2: That's a good way to look at Nick. What do
1:21:34
Speaker 2: you remember from the nineties. You were probably old enough
1:21:36
Speaker 2: in the nineties, Remember I ran contrary hereies when they
1:21:38
Speaker 2: were going on, right, or.
1:21:40
Speaker 3: I remember the money, no idea, what the hell is about?
1:21:44
Speaker 3: I just remember seeing Ali Nor.
1:21:46
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's right, dude, right and that So what
1:21:49
Speaker 2: do you think of that? Was that kind of like
1:21:51
Speaker 2: they kind of try to I think that was a production,
1:21:52
Speaker 2: right to convince everybody with They put Oliver North out there. Look,
1:21:55
Speaker 2: we're holding this guy accountable, and you know, et cetera,
1:21:58
Speaker 2: et cetera. You know, meanwhile, we have a Trump's first administration.
1:22:02
Speaker 2: Barr is an undercover ci age and identified in Mena,
1:22:05
Speaker 2: Arkansas drug operations during that same time frame, right known
1:22:08
Speaker 2: as I believe Bill Johnson, not Bill Barr. That was
1:22:11
Speaker 2: his undercover name, so he was identity. There are a
1:22:13
Speaker 2: lot of ship that went down and I ran contract
1:22:14
Speaker 2: that like it's never got resolved, but we were packaged
1:22:17
Speaker 2: this this narrative right on all these hearings, right, I
1:22:20
Speaker 2: remember the Oliver North hearings.
1:22:21
Speaker 3: There's you know where were those hearings?
1:22:23
Speaker 2: Help they was Senate? Yeah, that was that was in
1:22:28
Speaker 2: the same I remember that Hawaii Senator.
1:22:32
Speaker 3: If I would just it was the just going by
1:22:37
Speaker 3: today's day and age, because I have thought about this
1:22:39
Speaker 3: what you're getting at was it was? Is that even
1:22:41
Speaker 3: a production? And I think about now, it's like whenever
1:22:43
Speaker 3: they bring somebody to question, it doesn't make a fucking difference.
1:22:47
Speaker 2: Regardless, Yes, sir, and look who ran it.
1:22:52
Speaker 3: Mister n wrought somebody get questioned, Look up and see
1:23:01
Speaker 3: if anybody's actually.
1:23:05
Speaker 2: And nobody does. And that ran contra stuff started with
1:23:07
Speaker 2: John Kerry right, the skull and bonesman back to them
1:23:11
Speaker 2: right on that note, on that, i'd like to share
1:23:16
Speaker 2: it quick wow, right, No, it doesn't go anywhere. We're
1:23:19
Speaker 2: giving these productions and convinced to go somewhere, right, So
1:23:22
Speaker 2: on that quick note, I have a quick video i'd
1:23:23
Speaker 2: like to share with you all.
1:23:25
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Also.
1:23:35
Speaker 2: You'll remember this.
1:23:36
Speaker 1: This famous video.
1:23:40
Speaker 4: Also remember you remember.
1:23:42
Speaker 1: Of stolen robs and cause and Bushy.
1:23:44
Speaker 2: Were you gonna say any secrets?
1:23:48
Speaker 1: That's right, I mean that question.
1:23:53
Speaker 2: Don't taste me, bro, don't taste me?
1:24:07
Speaker 1: Wow? Hell, nobody helping you.
1:24:21
Speaker 2: Know, and help me?
1:24:23
Speaker 1: Whoa?
1:24:25
Speaker 2: You know you quite struggle right who.
1:24:34
Speaker 1: With the camera lan filling all that, no ship dune
1:24:38
Speaker 1: and this.
1:24:39
Speaker 2: Is no one's doing any They're all just stunned and.
1:24:49
Speaker 1: Staring at you. That's said, that's crazy here.
1:24:56
Speaker 2: It's talk about conditionally, right, yeah, bude. Even John Carrey's
1:25:02
Speaker 2: like let him go, let him ask the question. Yeah, now,
1:25:11
Speaker 2: well that's where the don'ts me, bro, don't say comes from, right,
1:25:15
Speaker 2: And yeah you can hear you hear John Kerry in
1:25:19
Speaker 2: the background saying just let him go, let him ask
1:25:21
Speaker 2: the question. So like even this going.
1:25:22
Speaker 1: Back, why did they get after him for asking though?
1:25:26
Speaker 1: Like what was the queue to do that? Because John
1:25:29
Speaker 1: Kerry didn't care?
1:25:30
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah right, I know. Right, it's almost like some
1:25:34
Speaker 2: handler carried right, one of Cary's Handler's maybe.
1:25:36
Speaker 3: Second somebody, right, Yeah, the whole thing was set up.
1:25:42
Speaker 2: That's always a possibility as well. Although I don't think, uh,
1:25:49
Speaker 2: what is it.
1:25:50
Speaker 3: You don't have to worry about ces because there's already
1:25:52
Speaker 3: a plot in the storyline already.
1:25:54
Speaker 2: Sure. Sure, I just think that it's certainly possible that.
1:26:03
Speaker 3: We're so focused on skull on bones, But isn't the
1:26:05
Speaker 3: society of Cincinnata is really the common thing beside all presidents.
1:26:10
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think there's there's obviously some sort of
1:26:13
Speaker 2: crossover to some regard, especially with those organizations. And I
1:26:17
Speaker 2: think one of them is more higher, older than the
1:26:20
Speaker 2: other of you will, so I think again, like I
1:26:23
Speaker 2: look at these skull and bonesman folks, is more like
1:26:25
Speaker 2: the district managers of the system, if you will, right,
1:26:29
Speaker 2: you know how Paul Giamatti, you know, the actor Paul Giamatti, Yeah,
1:26:34
Speaker 2: all familiar with them. He was the son of Bartlo Giamatti,
1:26:37
Speaker 2: the guy that banned Pete Rose from baseball may he
1:26:40
Speaker 2: burn in hell? Not Pete Rose, but Bartlow Gimmotty, his son,
1:26:45
Speaker 2: Paul Giamatti's skullm Banzman. He if you recall him in
1:26:49
Speaker 2: the film Truman Show, right, he's he's the guy behind
1:26:54
Speaker 2: the board, the soundboard and you know, the production board.
1:26:58
Speaker 1: Right.
1:26:58
Speaker 2: I feel like that's kind of a metaphor for what
1:27:00
Speaker 2: his people do in this world.
1:27:02
Speaker 1: Wow, the God character God controller, well ed Harris was God.
1:27:10
Speaker 2: He was like God, God's right hand.
1:27:12
Speaker 1: Right, that's right, that's right. That this is more controller,
1:27:14
Speaker 1: that's right. Yeah, yeah, like the controller type, right.
1:27:19
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean they're like yeah, so like the society.
1:27:22
Speaker 2: Now I'm not saying the society Cincinnati God. I'm saying,
1:27:24
Speaker 2: in this metaphor of the Truman Show, this said Harris
1:27:27
Speaker 2: character is more like the God character. And I think
1:27:29
Speaker 2: that's the functionary of a higher order that's reporting down
1:27:32
Speaker 2: to the Gamati character on managing the world, right, And
1:27:36
Speaker 2: I think that's kind of a metaphor of the sculem bones.
1:27:38
Speaker 2: People of Giamati take orders from other people, and I
1:27:40
Speaker 2: think some of those other people are in this country
1:27:43
Speaker 2: here obviously, the society of Cincinnati.
1:27:46
Speaker 1: Right.
1:27:47
Speaker 2: Wow, I'm not calling them God. I'm just saying in
1:27:51
Speaker 2: a metaphor, right.
1:27:53
Speaker 1: Exactly, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:27:56
Speaker 2: They call him the control room director. Was this was
1:27:58
Speaker 2: his was his character's name didn't even have a name,
1:28:01
Speaker 2: right in the Truman Show. Do you know Congressman Matt
1:28:08
Speaker 2: Gates or former Congressman Gates almost attorney general or whatever.
1:28:12
Speaker 1: The dude that looks like Joker Jack Nicholson Joker.
1:28:16
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that creepy song of the bitch folks. His
1:28:21
Speaker 2: folks in the Truman show House. They live there. That's
1:28:23
Speaker 2: that's where they live. I think he grew up there.
1:28:26
Speaker 1: Oh god, of course they did, of course, why not?
1:28:33
Speaker 2: Right?
1:28:35
Speaker 1: Yeah, these connections to me, it's a it's a bit
1:28:38
Speaker 1: much where it's look at him, yeah, bro, he looks
1:28:40
Speaker 1: like the Joker. Dude, Jack Nicholson, Joker, Oh big time.
1:28:46
Speaker 1: That face is so tight. He got like you girls,
1:28:52
Speaker 1: He got off real. He just he did a stage, right,
1:28:57
Speaker 1: he just slid right off with it.
1:29:00
Speaker 2: Dude, if you remember. Okay, so i'm guys you brought
1:29:02
Speaker 2: that up. You're talking about the little the incidents where
1:29:04
Speaker 2: he allegedly adopted his girlfriend's younger Cuban brother or something
1:29:07
Speaker 2: like that. Yeah, you know, some weird stuff, right. So
1:29:16
Speaker 2: there was if you paid attention to Florida politics at
1:29:18
Speaker 2: that time, going around, what was going on. They were
1:29:20
Speaker 2: all attacked, seemingly, they were all attacking each other. Suddenly
1:29:22
Speaker 2: someone leaked a photo of Ron DeSantis as a young
1:29:25
Speaker 2: lawyer at a Florida State University sorority party or something
1:29:28
Speaker 2: like that with a bunch of soporty girls looking like,
1:29:30
Speaker 2: you know, half half clothed. Did that matter? So I'm
1:29:32
Speaker 2: not I'm not saying again, you know, the sexual proclidies
1:29:35
Speaker 2: of whatever. You know, there were adults whatever, nonetheless, But
1:29:38
Speaker 2: I'm just saying there's a lot of photos being leaked
1:29:40
Speaker 2: in a political mud slinging fashion at the same time
1:29:43
Speaker 2: he was going under ship. Then you had the Santists stuff,
1:29:45
Speaker 2: and that wasn't long after Andrew Gillum uh, the DeSantis'
1:29:49
Speaker 2: gubernatorial cane did it for the Democratic Party, got busted
1:29:53
Speaker 2: down there in Miami waking up next to a male
1:29:55
Speaker 2: hooker after they've done a bunch of metha and apparently
1:29:57
Speaker 2: they're branging it out all night and with odeed. Oh.
1:30:02
Speaker 2: If you're saying like it seemed to some of what
1:30:03
Speaker 2: I'm saying is somebody somebody tipped off law enforcement that
1:30:06
Speaker 2: the gubernatorial can banging ounce some mail hooker in Miami
1:30:09
Speaker 2: hotel doing a bunch of myth. I'm saying there's a
1:30:12
Speaker 2: lot of political mud getting slung in every direction around
1:30:14
Speaker 2: those same times.
1:30:16
Speaker 1: Right, Wow, damn y'all. Yeah, it makes sense if it's
1:30:24
Speaker 1: if it's yeah if it's a political season, especially because
1:30:27
Speaker 1: these people get dirty. They get dirty, and that's just
1:30:30
Speaker 1: a surface behind the scenes. These niggas are schemy, they're evil.
1:30:34
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, big time, y'all. Y'all remember the the
1:30:44
Speaker 2: Florida governor candidate, the gubernatorial candidate against DeSantis, Andrew Gillum.
1:30:49
Speaker 2: He almost won, yes he Uh this is from February
1:30:58
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one. Second worker tells GQ he and politician
1:31:02
Speaker 2: Andrew Gillham did drugs in a Miami Beach hotel. So
1:31:06
Speaker 2: someone tips off the media, law enforcement, everybody, but also
1:31:09
Speaker 2: someone called nine one one who was not president in
1:31:11
Speaker 2: that hotel room. It was a third party from elsewhere.
1:31:14
Speaker 2: Allegedly it was the hooker's boyfriend and Gilliman. This mail
1:31:18
Speaker 2: hooker had a prostitute down there Miami Beach, had apparently overdosed.
1:31:22
Speaker 2: He'd flown down there from uh, what's the capital, Tallahassee
1:31:26
Speaker 2: or in Gainesville? Which one is it? Gainesville? Tallahassee? There
1:31:30
Speaker 2: we go, which that's Florida State, right, Okay, yep, yeah, Tallassee.
1:31:33
Speaker 2: So he flies that's where he lives, right as a
1:31:36
Speaker 2: state senator or whatever, running for governor or whatever. He's
1:31:39
Speaker 2: down in Miami Beach apparently to attend a wedding. But
1:31:42
Speaker 2: you know then you know, suddenly the next day he's dead,
1:31:45
Speaker 2: you know, nearly dead on a hotel room for of
1:31:47
Speaker 2: deeding from meth with this male hooker. And again, like
1:31:49
Speaker 2: it was a it got swept away pretty quickly. But
1:31:51
Speaker 2: I mean there's a lot of weird chickening thrown back
1:31:54
Speaker 2: and forth. Someone tipped somebody off to that situation, you
1:31:56
Speaker 2: know what I mean. So before it was the turn
1:32:00
Speaker 2: dat od the ode determination don't think occurred till they
1:32:04
Speaker 2: got there, but you know, there was tons of cameras
1:32:06
Speaker 2: on deck, so I feel like there were some tips,
1:32:08
Speaker 2: some tips going on.
1:32:10
Speaker 1: M hmm, wow, Gaine, I was getting Florida.
1:32:19
Speaker 2: I was getting Florida and Florida State mixed up. So
1:32:21
Speaker 2: Florida State's the one intel a sum University of Florida
1:32:24
Speaker 2: is in Gainesville, and that's that incident occurred. That don't
1:32:27
Speaker 2: taste me bro incident occurred in Gainesville, I believe.
1:32:30
Speaker 1: Right, Wow, don't tease me, bro for real, don't say cute.
1:32:36
Speaker 2: It spawn an entire meme, right dude. That was one
1:32:38
Speaker 2: like the person that I remember don't taste me bro.
1:32:41
Speaker 3: Yeah shit.
1:32:45
Speaker 2: So I generally think when we look at things like
1:32:47
Speaker 2: that Care Committee, and you know what, these elements of
1:32:50
Speaker 2: this Iran nonsense. As you pointed out, Charles starred in
1:32:53
Speaker 2: the fifties, but it was still plaguing us even today,
1:32:55
Speaker 2: let alone the nineteen late eighties and early nineties when
1:32:58
Speaker 2: all this stuff kicked off with these hearings and all
1:33:01
Speaker 2: this drug trafficking and gun trafficking, et cetera. But you know,
1:33:04
Speaker 2: I really do think there's something to be said that
1:33:06
Speaker 2: these things are packaged and sold to the American public
1:33:09
Speaker 2: as if it was like a production, right, and it
1:33:12
Speaker 2: is a production in a sense, like you know what
1:33:14
Speaker 2: I mean? Does that make sense?
1:33:15
Speaker 3: Yeah?
1:33:16
Speaker 1: Yeah, It's it's like, you know, in the military, there's exercises, right,
1:33:20
Speaker 1: like a bass where the whole base is aware of
1:33:23
Speaker 1: what's going on. Everyone's got rolls, there's a whole thing,
1:33:26
Speaker 1: there's characters literally everything set up. So same thing with this.
1:33:30
Speaker 1: It's like they give you a certain narrative. You have
1:33:32
Speaker 1: John Kerry, Okay, John Kerry, who's on board with this.
1:33:37
Speaker 1: It's like you got to have your key players to
1:33:39
Speaker 1: make sure the thing goes as planned. And there always
1:33:42
Speaker 1: is a plan. We just get the theatrics of it.
1:33:46
Speaker 1: But they already have the beginning and the end. They
1:33:48
Speaker 1: got the whole thing mapped out, and they're just following plans.
1:33:51
Speaker 1: And we're watching, oh you know.
1:33:54
Speaker 2: Now and like and like Nick was samyforelay I was saying,
1:33:56
Speaker 2: like I felt like this thing was covered, you know,
1:33:58
Speaker 2: everything was good to go. And I I remember reading
1:34:00
Speaker 2: about this stuff in the late eighties, early nineties, and
1:34:03
Speaker 2: you know, this is the Settle deal with they bust everybody, right,
1:34:05
Speaker 2: they had hearings right. But again, I think so not
1:34:08
Speaker 2: only is it the production, Like I think there's some
1:34:10
Speaker 2: sort of magical spell in which the way they fort
1:34:12
Speaker 2: and they package the production together to sell it to
1:34:15
Speaker 2: folks right that it doesn't cause folks to me like,
1:34:17
Speaker 2: well this seems like bullshit. Because I watch it now,
1:34:19
Speaker 2: I'm like, come on, man, this seems like bullshit.
1:34:22
Speaker 3: It's no different than the Nuremberg trials.
1:34:23
Speaker 2: I'm sure that's another good example there you go.
1:34:27
Speaker 3: That's the thing that I find interesting is like, how
1:34:29
Speaker 3: did our country, who didn't even adhere to those laws themselves,
1:34:32
Speaker 3: press charges of another country for not I don't get that.
1:34:35
Speaker 2: Was that even exactly, and what do they get, Like
1:34:38
Speaker 2: twelve Nazis they hung about what a hot Baker's dozen
1:34:41
Speaker 2: or so out of the whate hundred thousands some odd
1:34:44
Speaker 2: registered Nazis, right, and not to mention the ones that
1:34:47
Speaker 2: got us pensions in retirement, right, the.
1:34:50
Speaker 1: Ones who became government contractors and employees and agents, et cetera.
1:34:57
Speaker 2: For sure, that's no. But that's a good example because
1:35:01
Speaker 2: that was sold to what folks thought, like, oh, well,
1:35:04
Speaker 2: we got them, we got the Nazis, we did the
1:35:05
Speaker 2: Nuremberg I mean I remember that in history class growing up, like, yeah,
1:35:08
Speaker 2: we had the Turnberg trials, you know, we got them.
1:35:13
Speaker 3: Yeah, And like I wasn't you look at the facts.
1:35:16
Speaker 2: Of them that they don't the facts don't really check
1:35:18
Speaker 2: out here, Bud, you got you got a Baker's dozen
1:35:20
Speaker 2: these guys.
1:35:23
Speaker 1: Yeah, somebody's gotta go.
1:35:24
Speaker 3: When when me and French mk Ultra, he actually showed
1:35:28
Speaker 3: that like, yeah, I keep I keep lagging over here. Yeah,
1:35:32
Speaker 3: this country doesn't literally doesn't. When I said doesn't in here,
1:35:35
Speaker 3: like they don't acknowledge those laws. Actually they had never
1:35:37
Speaker 3: adopted them, pressed those charges.
1:35:42
Speaker 1: Right, So it's all shammy. It's all shammy.
1:35:45
Speaker 2: Man right, Like, yeah, yeah, so it's bullshit from the start, thing,
1:35:49
Speaker 2: is what you're saying.
1:35:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, it's like a put up trial. It's it's
1:35:54
Speaker 1: the whole thing was set up to. You know, people
1:35:56
Speaker 1: gotta go. We gotta like set It's basically like we
1:35:59
Speaker 1: got to put an end to this thing and start
1:36:02
Speaker 1: the new world order for real. It's like a it's
1:36:06
Speaker 1: like the story bad Guys lost, the good guys won,
1:36:10
Speaker 1: the bad guys were brought to justice and Q the
1:36:14
Speaker 1: nineteen fifties, Q, C, I E and Q all of.
1:36:18
Speaker 2: That, QUE, the happy movement that's going to change the
1:36:23
Speaker 2: entire fabric of our society, The.
1:36:26
Speaker 1: Beat Nicks, Q LSD Q, every the Q, all the
1:36:30
Speaker 1: all that what octopus murders.
1:36:38
Speaker 3: Yeah.
1:36:38
Speaker 2: So as a result of all these activities we're discussing,
1:36:41
Speaker 2: you know, these things don't get resolved. No, it's not accountable,
1:36:44
Speaker 2: and it does reach every aspect of our society. And
1:36:47
Speaker 2: we see headlines like this in recent years. But based
1:36:50
Speaker 2: upon the Danny Castilero Promise software, which was a component
1:36:54
Speaker 2: of that I Ran Contra business. The promise software which
1:36:57
Speaker 2: included folks like Glenn Maxwell's day, he included folks like
1:37:03
Speaker 2: he's another promised software salesman for the CIA. There was
1:37:06
Speaker 2: a number of them, but notably Maxwell's father, right, so
1:37:11
Speaker 2: and again, so that's more I six kind of Israeli
1:37:13
Speaker 2: stuff too going on with him. But uh, we see
1:37:16
Speaker 2: headlines like this murder mystery, octopus murder, filmmakers trying hard
1:37:20
Speaker 2: to untangle case, but saying conspiracy is so complicated because
1:37:24
Speaker 2: it does. It touches everything right and so much so
1:37:27
Speaker 2: going back to Steven Sagole, there's a fellow that's connected
1:37:30
Speaker 2: to this who was apparently a hitman of some regard,
1:37:32
Speaker 2: who was in the film Under Siege and was apparently
1:37:35
Speaker 2: a friend with them with Stevens, none other than Steven Sagol.
1:37:44
Speaker 2: How weird is that.
1:37:46
Speaker 1: Circle back to Stevens and.
1:37:52
Speaker 3: Into Russian ship.
1:37:53
Speaker 2: Dude, he's the number one dude in Russia. He's their
1:37:57
Speaker 2: number one movie star, you know in Russia.
1:38:00
Speaker 3: Well, who also fooled everybody and said we have hitler
1:38:03
Speaker 3: as well and they didn't.
1:38:06
Speaker 1: Look at home dude, right wow?
1:38:14
Speaker 2: Yeah, So this, this this dude who's in under Siege
1:38:16
Speaker 2: is like a like a spooky dude amongst this network
1:38:19
Speaker 2: for many years. Getting back to allegedly to JFK. But
1:38:24
Speaker 2: you know, fast forward to the nineties and he's uh,
1:38:26
Speaker 2: you know, like I said, doing things like appearing in
1:38:29
Speaker 2: the film Under Siege.
1:38:32
Speaker 1: Yeah, where he's riding in the train.
1:38:36
Speaker 2: Or that's not it is right, that's understage too. Underseaege
1:38:41
Speaker 2: one was the cinematic masterpiece that brought together Tommy Lee
1:38:44
Speaker 2: Jones and Gary Busey is the antagonist against Steven Seagull,
1:38:48
Speaker 2: never again in Hollywood. In Hollywood sent him a history
1:38:50
Speaker 2: over the future. Will you find such a such a
1:38:52
Speaker 2: dynamic trio? No, it's a goal versus Tommy Lee Jones
1:38:56
Speaker 2: and Bucy Beaucy post motorcycle accident. It's the best beauty
1:39:00
Speaker 2: see crazy Beausy. Yeah so, and and under Siege. If
1:39:07
Speaker 2: you recall in the first one, they sit like when
1:39:10
Speaker 2: Busy and Tommy Lee Jones, who are Busey's a naval officer, right,
1:39:15
Speaker 2: you know, it's number two on that ship, the operations officer,
1:39:18
Speaker 2: and Tommy Lee Jones plays a a CIA spook wetwork
1:39:23
Speaker 2: guy who they decide they're going to try to kill,
1:39:25
Speaker 2: and you know he's like, fuck you guys, I'm coming
1:39:26
Speaker 2: after you now, right, So you know that you know
1:39:29
Speaker 2: at the time, I'm like, oh, this kind of seems outlandish,
1:39:31
Speaker 2: But now looking back, I'm like, that sounds like an
1:39:33
Speaker 2: accurate plot. Right, Yeah, So you see in the war
1:39:39
Speaker 2: Room at one point in that movie. I'll bring up
1:39:41
Speaker 2: a picture. You see in the war Room all the
1:39:43
Speaker 2: you know, the National Security Council, right, speaking of these
1:39:46
Speaker 2: matters of national security, sitting around the table, the National
1:39:49
Speaker 2: Security Council is Robert bith Nichols, a fucking assassin within
1:39:53
Speaker 2: the Spooky Network apparently, and connected to the promise off
1:39:56
Speaker 2: for octopus stuff with Danny Castilero and seemingly friends with
1:40:01
Speaker 2: Steven Sego.
1:40:03
Speaker 1: Nothing big there, It's all right, it's all good. That's
1:40:07
Speaker 1: all good. Speaking of Tommy Lee Jones, how about recently,
1:40:12
Speaker 1: I was thinking about Men in Black, especially that first one,
1:40:16
Speaker 1: and how that movie is just so telling on so
1:40:18
Speaker 1: many different levels. And you know, just what do y'all
1:40:22
Speaker 1: think about Men in Black? If you've seen Will.
1:40:24
Speaker 2: Smith, it's a great one, is it. I Mean, this
1:40:27
Speaker 2: movie is so condploy, even even number three when they
1:40:30
Speaker 2: bring Josh Brolin to play the young Tommy Lee Jones.
1:40:32
Speaker 2: I'm a oh big Blan fan myself. You know the games? Now,
1:40:37
Speaker 2: what do I like it. What do you What are
1:40:39
Speaker 2: your thoughts there, Charles? I mean, I'm happy to share mine,
1:40:41
Speaker 2: but what are your thoughts?
1:40:43
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I think it's one of those films
1:40:45
Speaker 1: that kind of like The Matrix, one of these movies
1:40:47
Speaker 1: that like it's plain day in your face, telling you,
1:40:50
Speaker 1: like what's kind of going on. It's like the alien thing.
1:40:53
Speaker 1: It's like, oh yeah, they're among us. They kind of
1:40:56
Speaker 1: live here. There's like an alien airport where the niggas
1:40:58
Speaker 1: just kind of live life like you do, except as aliens.
1:41:01
Speaker 1: Like the scene where Tommy Jones is, you know, he
1:41:04
Speaker 1: stopped the dude on the road and the guy's like
1:41:06
Speaker 1: freaking out because his wife's giving birth. But it's like
1:41:09
Speaker 1: an alien squid baby. Like it's they're just like among us.
1:41:15
Speaker 1: It's almost like it's normal. You look at the news
1:41:17
Speaker 1: that inquire, Yeah it's crazy news, but it's actually real.
1:41:21
Speaker 1: It's actually like real news. Like all this stuff is real,
1:41:25
Speaker 1: you know, like all the little symbols and like the
1:41:29
Speaker 1: World's Fair, the all these things. It's it's interesting, man,
1:41:32
Speaker 1: just it's telling you what's going on. You know.
1:41:37
Speaker 2: No, I mean I I leave it open that there
1:41:39
Speaker 2: are these kind of secret agencies that have perpetrated this
1:41:42
Speaker 2: entire circus on us to make us have a false
1:41:45
Speaker 2: belief in reality, because again, we've already identified for the
1:41:48
Speaker 2: last ninety plus minutes a lot of false poliefs and
1:41:51
Speaker 2: reality that we already have. So you know, I'm open
1:41:53
Speaker 2: to these things of that nature for sure. I'm also
1:41:56
Speaker 2: open to folks like Will Smith, who's a scientologist wanting
1:41:59
Speaker 2: to convince everybody that we live in an ancient alien
1:42:01
Speaker 2: cargo could planet. Right, So you know, I'll leave it
1:42:04
Speaker 2: up for these ideas. But no, I like your heads
1:42:06
Speaker 2: out there, Charles, because again it's imaginative and probably a
1:42:09
Speaker 2: lot less dark than the others.
1:42:11
Speaker 1: Right, but maybe scientologist is he really Yeah.
1:42:16
Speaker 2: Well you've seen his children, right, there's offspring Willow and
1:42:19
Speaker 2: uh whatever.
1:42:21
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they're kind of they're out there, right, They're
1:42:25
Speaker 1: out there.
1:42:26
Speaker 2: So you can thank the uh the education system of
1:42:29
Speaker 2: Scientology for that. So they were educated at a Scientology
1:42:33
Speaker 2: charter school that was a franchise that was issued to
1:42:36
Speaker 2: it their parents, Will and Jada Pinkett Smith, and last
1:42:39
Speaker 2: I checked, you don't get that franchise for that charter
1:42:42
Speaker 2: school unless you remember.
1:42:44
Speaker 1: Wow, incredible, very interesting. So that's why Willow is all
1:42:50
Speaker 1: goofying and weird. Oh man, and that's why Jaden I
1:42:54
Speaker 1: saw an X today. He's wearing like a dress, like
1:42:59
Speaker 1: he's only person wearing a dress. It's like, oh, I
1:43:02
Speaker 1: you go girl.
1:43:04
Speaker 2: I believe he's the the on contract model for some
1:43:07
Speaker 2: female designer line.
1:43:12
Speaker 1: Damn, bro, how much is it? How much? Like? What's
1:43:14
Speaker 1: the worth of that lifestyle? Man? I'd rather be my
1:43:19
Speaker 1: boring old self living in my house talking to two
1:43:22
Speaker 1: guys on my computer than having millions on millions wearing
1:43:28
Speaker 1: a girl's dress wear carrying a bag being from the
1:43:34
Speaker 1: will Smith co founded and funded the New Village Leadership Academy,
1:43:37
Speaker 1: a private school in Kylabaster's, California, which you scientology, study technology.
1:43:44
Speaker 1: The school was open from eight to thirteen and also
1:43:47
Speaker 1: incorporated Montessori, Gardner, and Bruner educational methodologies. While Smith selected
1:43:54
Speaker 1: the management and funded the school, his wife, Jada Pinkett Smith,
1:43:59
Speaker 1: was also involved in its operation, and VLA ultimately closed
1:44:03
Speaker 1: on June twenty eighth, twenty thirteen.
1:44:06
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, thank you, sir. I appreciate that. Charles, Yeah, so,
1:44:09
Speaker 2: I think that was the years they went to the
1:44:10
Speaker 2: high school.
1:44:11
Speaker 1: Basically I believe, yes, yeah, that little stretch there, wow,
1:44:16
Speaker 1: five year stretch. Yeah, damn man, Okay, well there it is.
1:44:22
Speaker 1: No and then and then you look at these people's
1:44:24
Speaker 1: relationships with their kids each other, it's like, whatever this is,
1:44:27
Speaker 1: I don't it don't seem right, it don't seem normal,
1:44:30
Speaker 1: it don't seem natural. I'll pass.
1:44:39
Speaker 3: Not for me.
1:44:40
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're back, so well yeah, yeah, it's crazy, dude,
1:44:44
Speaker 1: how that is?
1:44:45
Speaker 2: But right, right, So, and on this note of Steven
1:44:49
Speaker 2: Seagal's buddy Robert Booth Nichols, who's apparently this deep state
1:44:52
Speaker 2: kind of network assassin fell, probably not that much different
1:44:55
Speaker 2: from the storyline you get about Charles Harrelson and Charles Harrelson,
1:44:59
Speaker 2: which is Woody Harrelson and Matthew McConaughey's father. Did you
1:45:02
Speaker 2: know that, Charles, Did you know that Woody Harrelson and
1:45:05
Speaker 2: Matthew McConaughey have the same father.
1:45:07
Speaker 1: Half brothers. I didn't know that.
1:45:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that father, you know that father alleged himself
1:45:12
Speaker 2: to be a jfk Assassen and who knows boss was
1:45:15
Speaker 2: suppose but right Michael Anthony Hoffin's book, Yeah, how you're
1:45:21
Speaker 2: talking about with the King Kilt.
1:45:23
Speaker 1: I think Hoffmann I remember listening to something where he
1:45:26
Speaker 1: said he talked he spoke with Harrelson's dad. No, he
1:45:29
Speaker 1: spoke with Woody Harrelson about his father, saying something like, yeah,
1:45:33
Speaker 1: like your father was you know, like Jeffka Assassin, right,
1:45:36
Speaker 1: Like what's that about? And he said something like Harrelson
1:45:39
Speaker 1: broke down crying like yeah, like my dad was. Yeah,
1:45:42
Speaker 1: there's that.
1:45:44
Speaker 2: Well, he's definitely of the same ilk of Robert bith Nichols,
1:45:47
Speaker 2: Steven Seagull's buddy who was in under siege, and he's
1:45:50
Speaker 2: of that same kind of network. Right, whether or not
1:45:52
Speaker 2: he was at the JFK scene, he's definitely of that
1:45:53
Speaker 2: same kind of network as booth As was as well.
1:45:55
Speaker 2: And that's uh. Harrelson went to prison for murdering this fellaw.
1:46:00
Speaker 2: He was the only sitting federal judge murdered since I
1:46:03
Speaker 2: think eighteen fifty and it was a judge John Wood
1:46:07
Speaker 2: in San Antonio, Texas, May twenty ninth, nineteen seventy nine.
1:46:10
Speaker 1: So this is baby daddy.
1:46:13
Speaker 2: Yeah, So you know Woody and Matthew McConaughey, they're both
1:46:16
Speaker 2: you know, adults by that point in time. But yeah,
1:46:19
Speaker 2: their their father prin him with Life along Assassin. Wow.
1:46:24
Speaker 1: Wow, and his sons are big Hollywood superstars, so you know,
1:46:30
Speaker 1: no biggie.
1:46:32
Speaker 2: Right, That's what I'm saying. Dude. How weird is that?
1:46:34
Speaker 2: Then they both star and True Detective?
1:46:36
Speaker 1: Right? Come on, man, I had the story.
1:46:40
Speaker 3: I think I was more surprised, like I could believe
1:46:43
Speaker 3: that they that they're related. It's just like you guys
1:46:45
Speaker 3: had no fucking clue until now. Exactly.
1:46:48
Speaker 2: I don't you guys. They're McConaughey's mother even says she's
1:46:52
Speaker 2: known the entire time. That's what I'm saying. I don't
1:46:55
Speaker 2: buy any of this shit, you know, exactly.
1:46:57
Speaker 1: Yeah.
1:46:58
Speaker 2: And McConaughey's older brother looks like exactly like Woody Harrelson.
1:47:01
Speaker 2: Rooster McConaughey looks more like Woody than he does Matthew mcconnaey.
1:47:07
Speaker 2: It's quite a name, right, Rooster.
1:47:09
Speaker 1: Where's Rooster?
1:47:13
Speaker 2: So we see these things that still play against these
1:47:15
Speaker 2: I ran Concrace scandals. I mean, I know this was
1:47:16
Speaker 2: highlighted in the Netflix documentary on Castilero and the Octopus
1:47:21
Speaker 2: and Promise, But this is Robert Booth Nichols. You know
1:47:23
Speaker 2: he's faked his death a couple of times. Right, And
1:47:26
Speaker 2: apparently he may or may not be dead now, but
1:47:28
Speaker 2: previously that he at least faked his death a couple
1:47:30
Speaker 2: of times. And who does that remind you of Nick
1:47:34
Speaker 2: ziff Lord himself?
1:47:35
Speaker 1: Right?
1:47:37
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that was another thing Charles out if you
1:47:40
Speaker 3: a bunch of them of all faked death to try
1:47:42
Speaker 3: to and this is that it's the whole fuck story
1:47:43
Speaker 3: with those people.
1:47:44
Speaker 1: Wow.
1:47:45
Speaker 2: Right.
1:47:46
Speaker 3: And it's like he even start getting confused, like who's
1:47:48
Speaker 3: who because it's you know, they're claiming like they're this
1:47:52
Speaker 3: one day, that the other day.
1:47:53
Speaker 1: Yeah.
1:47:54
Speaker 2: And there's one two from that from the same private
1:47:57
Speaker 2: school that Bill Gates went to in Seattle and in
1:48:00
Speaker 2: the in the Taft fella who was involved I believe
1:48:02
Speaker 2: the taft fella was involved in the grun Stein also
1:48:04
Speaker 2: went to that same private school. Dudley Taft. He was
1:48:07
Speaker 2: he was not a major figure, but he was a
1:48:08
Speaker 2: figure in the grun scene. He Uh, those two that
1:48:12
Speaker 2: went there, man, they those Zizians, they look like the
1:48:15
Speaker 2: same person. Dude. Remember we couldn't figure out the difference
1:48:17
Speaker 2: between those two.
1:48:19
Speaker 3: Well, yes, there was ones that I said, go like
1:48:22
Speaker 3: nothing nothing. These two almost looked like they could be
1:48:23
Speaker 3: the same person.
1:48:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's intentional, right.
1:48:31
Speaker 3: Probably it was very confusing.
1:48:33
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so we're not talking We're not talking about
1:48:39
Speaker 2: you know, dumb folks. You know, these are AI folks,
1:48:41
Speaker 2: the Zizion transpocalypse, Silicon Valley based AI focused rationalist, vegan
1:48:48
Speaker 2: homicidal death cult. These folks are smart, well financed, they
1:48:52
Speaker 2: have you know, they're from wealthy backgrounds. Again, one of
1:48:56
Speaker 2: them attended the same private school in Seattle as Bill
1:48:58
Speaker 2: Gates and Bill Gates for example, his father was the
1:49:03
Speaker 2: had a planned parenthood his mother's father's, so his maternal
1:49:07
Speaker 2: grandfather was the head of the Federal Reserve in Seattle.
1:49:09
Speaker 2: I believe at one point, you know, these are the
1:49:12
Speaker 2: people that run make decisions, and these are the people
1:49:15
Speaker 2: that aren't connected, I think, to the society of the
1:49:16
Speaker 2: Cincinnati may have allegiances with factions of that anti liberty regard,
1:49:20
Speaker 2: if you ask me, But nonetheless, there are powerful agents
1:49:23
Speaker 2: that don't necessarily fall necessarily within that same structure, but
1:49:27
Speaker 2: clearly impact our world. Right, I mean Bill Gates, I mean,
1:49:29
Speaker 2: get the fuck out of here. That dude's everywhere.
1:49:32
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a destroyer, right, top level destroyer with family
1:49:38
Speaker 1: connections of destroyers with just a trail of destruction behind them,
1:49:43
Speaker 1: whether eugenics or whether like global control through the technocracy,
1:49:48
Speaker 1: like early technocracy, you know IBM days all that, it's
1:49:52
Speaker 1: all just like linked up and it's all just.
1:49:57
Speaker 2: Weird. IBM just gives Bill Gates the software. He just
1:50:01
Speaker 2: happens to have this huge computer lab at the University
1:50:03
Speaker 2: of Washington where his mother works at in which to
1:50:05
Speaker 2: access all these computers at the time when no one
1:50:07
Speaker 2: else has access to it, and suddenly has this baseline
1:50:10
Speaker 2: software in which to build an operating system that IBM
1:50:13
Speaker 2: just graciously awarded him, you know, a belief free of charge.
1:50:17
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there it is coincidental, bro.
1:50:22
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally normal. Nothing to see here. So I think,
1:50:26
Speaker 2: you know, I really like these ideas that things are
1:50:28
Speaker 2: things are written in film, right, But we can start
1:50:31
Speaker 2: bringing this thing to a close here. I appreciate both
1:50:33
Speaker 2: your gents times of seating, but I think one topic
1:50:35
Speaker 2: at least that pass it around for everyone to have
1:50:38
Speaker 2: a closing statements and a topic that's imposed on their
1:50:41
Speaker 2: brain holds this evening. But one topic that's always is
1:50:44
Speaker 2: this the nature of ideas being perpetrated in society largely
1:50:49
Speaker 2: through film, right and stuff like that. Right, and the
1:50:52
Speaker 2: idea that there's something Nick and I cover a lot
1:50:55
Speaker 2: on Operation GC the Live we're doing a monthly occult
1:50:59
Speaker 2: and I said, Terry film review on different films, and
1:51:02
Speaker 2: you know, I think there's a lot to be said
1:51:03
Speaker 2: about some of these ideas, but negative and positive that
1:51:06
Speaker 2: get the push through the works of fiction. And it's
1:51:09
Speaker 2: not just films. It used to go on through books.
1:51:11
Speaker 2: And you know, the CIA is the OSS, and the
1:51:14
Speaker 2: CIA are founded by literary literature graduates from Yalen, Harvard
1:51:18
Speaker 2: and whatnot. So these aren't people these you know, these
1:51:22
Speaker 2: are the people that write these kind of stories, right,
1:51:24
Speaker 2: you know. So on that note, and on that note
1:51:26
Speaker 2: of Bill Gates, are you are you fellas familiar with
1:51:30
Speaker 2: the film the comedy masterpiece from I believe nineteen ninety
1:51:34
Speaker 2: eight Dead Man on Campus.
1:51:39
Speaker 3: And let's see it. I remember when it came out,
1:51:41
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
1:51:42
Speaker 2: This movie. I think it was MTV Film's first production
1:51:45
Speaker 2: and it was I mean probably accidentally, but it was
1:51:48
Speaker 2: fucking hilarious. And you know, one of the things in
1:51:51
Speaker 2: here that they wrote in here, the pretense is if
1:51:55
Speaker 2: they're both of them are failing out of school. They're
1:51:57
Speaker 2: college roommates they hate each other, are filling out of school.
1:52:00
Speaker 2: Zach from Saved by the Bell and the fellow from
1:52:03
Speaker 2: the Werewolf movie Werewolf in Paris. Uh, they're uh, they're
1:52:09
Speaker 2: found out of college. And you know, they find out
1:52:11
Speaker 2: if their roommate commit suicide that they get they get
1:52:15
Speaker 2: straight a's for the rest of the year and they
1:52:16
Speaker 2: won't get kicked out. So they keep trying to recruit
1:52:18
Speaker 2: suicidal roommates of varying natures and capacities on campus and
1:52:21
Speaker 2: various failed you know, plots and missions in which to
1:52:25
Speaker 2: accomplish this goal. They at one point recruit and this
1:52:28
Speaker 2: kind of schizo dude, right who says Bill Gates. So
1:52:32
Speaker 2: they like infiltrate a suicide hotline to meet this guy,
1:52:34
Speaker 2: you know whatever, and you know, infiltrate that worked their
1:52:36
Speaker 2: way into his life. He thinks Bill Gates had copied
1:52:40
Speaker 2: his brain when he fell asleep in an airport and
1:52:41
Speaker 2: now he's trying to take care of the world and
1:52:43
Speaker 2: get the rest of the dude's brain or something like that.
1:52:45
Speaker 2: But he starts making all of these statements about how
1:52:47
Speaker 2: Bill Gates runs the world, and he's this evil man,
1:52:49
Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera, and he it's kind of it
1:52:51
Speaker 2: kind of becomes this joke throughout the film because you'll
1:52:53
Speaker 2: see the guy pop up a couple of scenes later
1:52:55
Speaker 2: screaming about shit, you know, and I'm like, man, looking back,
1:52:58
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, whoever wrote that film, you know, put
1:53:00
Speaker 2: that stuff in there. They knew a lot about Bill
1:53:02
Speaker 2: Gates in nineteen ninety seven, ninety eight when no one
1:53:04
Speaker 2: else did.
1:53:07
Speaker 1: Wow, you know, Yeah, if a film, cinema, movies, it's
1:53:10
Speaker 1: all just it's some symbolism and what is a cult
1:53:13
Speaker 1: but hidden okay, And these people speak through symbols, They
1:53:18
Speaker 1: speak through images, pictures, old signs. Okay. They're all bound
1:53:25
Speaker 1: by these images because it speaks on a psychological level.
1:53:29
Speaker 1: It's not just a thing of oh, look I see
1:53:31
Speaker 1: a picture of a bird, so this must be a
1:53:33
Speaker 1: bird house. It's what does that bird represent? A bird
1:53:37
Speaker 1: represents the spirit freedom, blah blah blah blah blah. Whatever
1:53:40
Speaker 1: you associate with it, and it becomes a symbolid thing
1:53:43
Speaker 1: that speaks volumes literally, So that's where you have stuff
1:53:47
Speaker 1: like like this movie, I mentioned the matrix before. You
1:53:49
Speaker 1: can apply that to taxes you can apply that to
1:53:52
Speaker 1: your government, you can apply that to oppression whatever. But
1:53:55
Speaker 1: the point is there, Okay, all the more. Yeah, you
1:53:59
Speaker 1: go look back to the future, like I know, people
1:54:01
Speaker 1: really like go deep into that movie and that.
1:54:04
Speaker 2: You ain't kidding the.
1:54:09
Speaker 3: Rejects did.
1:54:10
Speaker 2: Yeah, we we just did. I've been getting lots of
1:54:12
Speaker 2: feedback with folks going even deeper. That's great stuff. Now,
1:54:15
Speaker 2: that's a very deepen. That's a great example.
1:54:18
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's all around us, man, exactly, it's it's there,
1:54:21
Speaker 1: it's around us.
1:54:22
Speaker 2: I like the way you Charles.
1:54:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, these people are well equipped. They've been doing this
1:54:26
Speaker 1: free for centuries. These are old orders families. It's like
1:54:31
Speaker 1: it's a tight business. If we think like this isn't
1:54:34
Speaker 1: a control thing, we're we're way behind the curve.
1:54:39
Speaker 2: You know right now. No, like how you say it applies,
1:54:42
Speaker 2: these same concepts apply across the spectrum of our you know,
1:54:45
Speaker 2: our universe here right.
1:54:47
Speaker 3: I want to ask if I know, maybe you're wrapping
1:54:50
Speaker 3: it up, but I do want to ask, child, take
1:54:52
Speaker 3: your time. Do you think there might be actually a
1:54:56
Speaker 3: choreographed effort like that amongst the conspiracy community?
1:55:00
Speaker 1: Oh?
1:55:03
Speaker 3: Is that the one only place that we're safe.
1:55:06
Speaker 1: Right, oh boy, in the conspiracy world. No, the only
1:55:10
Speaker 1: place we're safe is in here and here. That's what
1:55:13
Speaker 1: we're safe because this is the one thing that's truly there.
1:55:16
Speaker 1: I mean, you have all media, right, Dan Bongino and Rumble,
1:55:20
Speaker 1: he's all media. Stephen Crowder, he's all media. It's like, really,
1:55:25
Speaker 1: these people are all met Okay. So when people start
1:55:29
Speaker 1: waking up or they start getting a taste for truth,
1:55:32
Speaker 1: because babies drink milk, they don't eat meat. You have
1:55:35
Speaker 1: to level up to meat. So when you start with milk,
1:55:37
Speaker 1: they'll give you. Oh, here's Joe Rogan to talk about
1:55:40
Speaker 1: you know, DMT. Here's Joe Rogan to talk about waking up. Oh,
1:55:44
Speaker 1: here's Neil Degrass Tyson, a freemason, to help you understand
1:55:49
Speaker 1: your worldview and you that's that's the thing. So there's
1:55:54
Speaker 1: no safety in any of these things. The safety is
1:55:57
Speaker 1: in discernment. And when you discern you start seeing what's
1:56:00
Speaker 1: real and what isn't. But the land minds are everywhere, man,
1:56:03
Speaker 1: it's everywhere. It's a battle for you. You. Your mind
1:56:07
Speaker 1: is the thing. When they have your mind, they become
1:56:10
Speaker 1: your god. When you have your mind, they don't have
1:56:15
Speaker 1: your mind. Whatever has your mind has your mind. So
1:56:18
Speaker 1: you need to have your mind. Your family needs to God, whatever,
1:56:22
Speaker 1: your creator. We all have a creator. Your creator needs
1:56:25
Speaker 1: to have your mind. The good, love, positivity, the things
1:56:29
Speaker 1: that help us grow, not the things that they give us,
1:56:31
Speaker 1: which is hate. It's always hate, it's anger, jealousy, emotions,
1:56:37
Speaker 1: nothing but emotions. There's no logic because they don't want
1:56:40
Speaker 1: you thinking logically.
1:56:41
Speaker 3: You know.
1:56:43
Speaker 2: That's that's true. That's true. That's a good And it's
1:56:45
Speaker 2: kind of back to that signal to noise ratio, right,
1:56:48
Speaker 2: you got all this noise, that signal you can't really
1:56:50
Speaker 2: think logically, sift through the nonsense.
1:56:52
Speaker 3: You know what, Let's say just for whatever, if we
1:56:56
Speaker 3: can all agree that maybe for the most part QAnon
1:56:59
Speaker 3: might have and bullshit, let's just say it.
1:57:01
Speaker 2: Is you mean you don't trust the plan, sir? Are
1:57:03
Speaker 2: you telling me there's no plan?
1:57:05
Speaker 3: If that stuff is not real? Do you know what
1:57:07
Speaker 3: kind of alternate reality that people believe in it?
1:57:11
Speaker 2: That's that's a great example. That's a great example, going.
1:57:13
Speaker 3: On different fucking world that exists.
1:57:15
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, it's a great example.
1:57:18
Speaker 1: That's so true. That's the speaking of narrative, and like bubbles.
1:57:22
Speaker 1: That that's a whole different bubble. Dude, that's a whole
1:57:25
Speaker 1: different thing, right. Think about the Zizians. They live in
1:57:27
Speaker 1: their own bubble.
1:57:29
Speaker 3: You ain't kidding, Like that's even a smaller one for real,
1:57:33
Speaker 3: small but powerful.
1:57:34
Speaker 1: But how crazy is that?
1:57:35
Speaker 3: Though?
1:57:36
Speaker 2: You know, I wouldn't be surprised if some of them
1:57:37
Speaker 2: trust the plane.
1:57:38
Speaker 3: But you know, I mean trust, this is trust, This.
1:57:43
Speaker 2: Is now I I I will wrap this up here
1:57:47
Speaker 2: and by all means takes take your all time to
1:57:49
Speaker 2: any closing summary statements in our conversation. I think you
1:57:52
Speaker 2: want to plug, but I appreciate both your all gents, conversation,
1:57:55
Speaker 2: your time, and Charles, I think, I hopefully, I think
1:57:58
Speaker 2: we My attempt was that like a kind of a
1:58:01
Speaker 2: you know, a tour of the topics you you've covered
1:58:03
Speaker 2: thus far within your Eyes and Ears podcast, and uh,
1:58:06
Speaker 2: I've caught a couple of your AM wake up shows there,
1:58:09
Speaker 2: so not exactly from as familiar with the the you know,
1:58:12
Speaker 2: the topics of conversation as far as the routine topics go,
1:58:15
Speaker 2: but I hope hopefully we touched a lot on the
1:58:17
Speaker 2: stuff you talk about there. And I think I think
1:58:19
Speaker 2: I feel like uh much like when I you know,
1:58:21
Speaker 2: you're you have an interesting perspective on a lot of things,
1:58:24
Speaker 2: and I certainly appreciate some some you know again, that's
1:58:27
Speaker 2: why I like having a podcast and discussing things. And
1:58:29
Speaker 2: I think that's a little bit with Nick and I
1:58:31
Speaker 2: were aiming here on Fridays is just kind of you know,
1:58:33
Speaker 2: not really having a plan or a tenuary necessarily on
1:58:36
Speaker 2: these detours of folks shows and their interest but you know,
1:58:39
Speaker 2: exchanging these ideas of these varying perspectives that we don't
1:58:42
Speaker 2: necessarily get.
1:58:43
Speaker 1: Very very important. It's it's kind of like a like
1:58:46
Speaker 1: going back to fish, this is like a fish show.
1:58:48
Speaker 1: Like a lot of my shows, It's not okay, planned,
1:58:50
Speaker 1: It's like I might have a general idea, but it's
1:58:52
Speaker 1: like what makes the show was the discussions. It's like
1:58:56
Speaker 1: we start with one thing, but by the end, it's
1:58:58
Speaker 1: like the natural flow of thing takes us in all
1:59:00
Speaker 1: different directions and that's where it's That's how you kind
1:59:03
Speaker 1: of get to know somebody. You ask questions, you get
1:59:06
Speaker 1: their opinions, you kind of bounce off of each other,
1:59:08
Speaker 1: and then the story builds itself. So you might come,
1:59:11
Speaker 1: you know, to the table with four stories and then
1:59:14
Speaker 1: that turns to like twenty different things because of how
1:59:16
Speaker 1: everything floats. So I love that. I think that's awesome.
1:59:20
Speaker 2: That's a great way to put it. We're a jam band,
1:59:21
Speaker 2: that's a great way to put it.
1:59:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I've been jaj. I appreciate you all having
1:59:28
Speaker 1: me over man exactly. It was cool having you in
1:59:30
Speaker 1: Heidi on Nick nice meeting on the show Man. I
1:59:33
Speaker 1: think what y'all do is great. I think these discussions
1:59:35
Speaker 1: are awesome. Anything occult, anything esoteric, count me in.
1:59:39
Speaker 3: I love it. And uh yeah, I love this.
1:59:42
Speaker 1: Now this is awesome.
1:59:43
Speaker 2: Well, we'll definitely have to link up again in the
1:59:45
Speaker 2: future for some more shows. Here, Charles, I definitely enjoy
1:59:47
Speaker 2: your outlook, and I would be remiss if I didn't
1:59:49
Speaker 2: ask you to share some of your military experience, because
1:59:51
Speaker 2: again I salute you as a fellow US Air Force
1:59:54
Speaker 2: veterans specifically but generally as a military veterroom.
1:59:57
Speaker 1: You know, so appreciate.
1:59:58
Speaker 2: But do we appreciate your time and again your insight.
2:00:01
Speaker 2: But what have you? Uh you served I believe six
2:00:04
Speaker 2: years you said in the medical Amen.
2:00:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I did thirteen to twenty one, So eight
2:00:11
Speaker 1: years I did, eight years I was medical on the
2:00:14
Speaker 1: medical field. Very eye opening for what it was. Uh,
2:00:19
Speaker 1: just stationed in a small clinic down south, and then
2:00:21
Speaker 1: I move over to and then I moved to the Capitol.
2:00:23
Speaker 1: So just kind of going from a small operation to
2:00:26
Speaker 1: like the district operation. So that was that was my thing.
2:00:29
Speaker 1: But yeah, always always trying to just use my eyes
2:00:32
Speaker 1: and ears, you know, and always like using rationality no
2:00:35
Speaker 1: matter what it is. And like I said, reading a
2:00:38
Speaker 1: five's was the thing. Reading Air Force regulations a force
2:00:42
Speaker 1: like that was the thing. Right, So it's kind of
2:00:44
Speaker 1: like among the rules.
2:00:45
Speaker 2: I don't miss that term Charles A Fish.
2:00:49
Speaker 1: If I dashed five five f no no, no, no, no,
2:00:52
Speaker 1: no no no. None of those those days are behind
2:00:55
Speaker 1: me for sure. But yeah, bro, that's where it was.
2:00:57
Speaker 1: Eight years air Force medical me. Yeah, and that's awesome. Station.
2:01:03
Speaker 1: This was awesome a lot of fun. These guys definitely
2:01:05
Speaker 1: brought it for sure.
2:01:09
Speaker 3: Chat Yeah, chat's were great.
2:01:10
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, chat's been great now for sure. I appreciate
2:01:12
Speaker 2: the chat. Where were your assignments, Uh, it was South.
2:01:17
Speaker 1: I was in North Carolina for for a good majority and.
2:01:21
Speaker 2: Then overtymore Johnson.
2:01:23
Speaker 1: Seymour Johnson, North Carolina. What a right Seymour Johnson. Have
2:01:30
Speaker 1: you ever seen Seymour Johnson?
2:01:32
Speaker 2: Right, sounds like something Bart Simpson would say to the
2:01:36
Speaker 2: most tavern right on The Simpsons Exactly. Yeah, that's great stuff.
2:01:43
Speaker 2: And I'm sure you had some eye opening experiences in
2:01:45
Speaker 2: your your time there.
2:01:46
Speaker 1: I'm sure, yeah, man, a lot of eye opening, a
2:01:50
Speaker 1: lot of uh learned a lot about myself through the time,
2:01:52
Speaker 1: that's for sure. Fish loves the Yeah, yeah.
2:01:58
Speaker 2: That's great stuff. And folks and find Yeah, what's that?
2:02:01
Speaker 2: Go ahead?
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Speaker 1: We got some fans in the crowd. Okay, very cool?
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Speaker 2: Like it right?
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Speaker 3: Right?
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Speaker 2: Oh, I would think so grateful dogs first show was
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Speaker 2: in April of ninety three. It sounds like they're a
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Speaker 2: Fish fan.
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Speaker 1: Oh damn.
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Speaker 3: I saw them, I think once at a Further festival
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Speaker 3: in Pennsylvania, a long oh Further festival.
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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm one of those in the nineties weird festival.
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Speaker 3: Wow.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, that was a great actually too, County Crows,
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Speaker 2: I like the Counting Crows.
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Speaker 3: Heleyle he was there. I was like, what the wild?
2:02:36
Speaker 2: Yeah was this was this Further Fast ninety.
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Speaker 1: Five Further fest. Yeah, that's what it sounds like. That's
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Speaker 1: what I said.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, for the fest in Pennsylvania.
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Speaker 2: Heard was it ninety five? It sounds like the ninety
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Speaker 2: five lineup, but think I was, Yeah, it could be.
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Speaker 2: I think I think I was at that line Crow Crows.
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Speaker 1: Were there just different bands all that.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Mickey Heart and Planned Drumas.
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Speaker 2: It was the first time I ever heard of there
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Speaker 2: you go get wrapped rental.
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Speaker 3: Heat in a few months and I smoked right before
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Speaker 3: his band came on, and I was like, Yo, what
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Speaker 3: the fuck is this? I never heard? It was just
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Speaker 3: like I was stuck in my cham. I don't know.
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Speaker 3: I don't even think that was. It was like on
2:03:10
Speaker 3: the grass or whatever. But I was just like, Yo,
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Speaker 3: this ship is fucking intense.
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Speaker 2: So it sounds like it was ninety six. Thank you
2:03:17
Speaker 2: Lucy Rose. Yes, so that was that was the lineup there.
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Speaker 2: I remember seeing the Counting Crows, dude. I they came
2:03:21
Speaker 2: back later to Cincinnati the next year by themselves. I
2:03:24
Speaker 2: remember seeing them again.
2:03:26
Speaker 3: Wow, it's fucking crazy.
2:03:28
Speaker 2: So no, I saw the lineup at Cincinnati when they came. Yeah,
2:03:37
Speaker 2: but I saw that same that same lineup though. That
2:03:39
Speaker 2: was a good year.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of fans in the crowd. Very cool.
2:03:43
Speaker 1: I like this ship and wake up is the opposite
2:03:47
Speaker 1: of this. There's a lot of haters towards the jam bands,
2:03:51
Speaker 1: but yeah, I like this, I like I like this.
2:03:53
Speaker 3: I fuck with this.
2:03:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I'll yeah, I'm not. I never got
2:03:56
Speaker 2: big into Fish so much, but I do like the
2:03:58
Speaker 2: jam bands. I'd say I skied Fish and went right
2:04:00
Speaker 2: to O A R mm hmm. It was a huge
2:04:04
Speaker 2: Still I am a huge fan. Yeah, yeah, I got.
2:04:09
Speaker 2: I was stationed in d C for six years, so
2:04:10
Speaker 2: I got to see them a lot there because they're
2:04:12
Speaker 2: They're from Rockville, Maryland, and they went to school in
2:04:15
Speaker 2: Ohio state, so I kind of, you know, I got
2:04:17
Speaker 2: a lot of O A R in my life from
2:04:18
Speaker 2: Ohio to d C.
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Speaker 1: I lived in Rockville. That's where I was when I
2:04:22
Speaker 1: was over in the Capitol. Shout the Civic Center over
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Speaker 1: in Rockville. I love that place.
2:04:29
Speaker 3: Yo. Did you ever here a Hot Tuna?
2:04:32
Speaker 1: Yeah?
2:04:32
Speaker 2: Oh man, I remember that band like Stony Brook.
2:04:35
Speaker 3: A few times.
2:04:36
Speaker 1: That's drama, like old Jefferson Airplane, And I was.
2:04:42
Speaker 2: Like, holy ship, that's stuff right there. I haven't heard
2:04:45
Speaker 2: that name in a while.
2:04:46
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know.
2:04:48
Speaker 2: Well, if folks looking for your podcast there and then
2:04:53
Speaker 2: wake up stuff there, Charles, I make sure it's in
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Speaker 2: the show notes. Is there any other plugs before we
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Speaker 2: passed over to Nick here for some plus yes.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, quick, yes, Monday mornings ten am Eastern, seven am Western.
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Speaker 1: You can Pacific, I should say, I'm on Rumble with
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Speaker 1: Steve Poykin and am wake up. I'm trying so. And
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Speaker 1: then besides that, there's my show of course, eyes and Ears.
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Speaker 1: You can find me on Rumble as well. You can
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Speaker 1: follow me eyes and Ears on X Twitter, whatever you
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Speaker 1: want to call it. My handle is under my name,
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Speaker 1: so yeah, follow me there, check me out. That's that's
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Speaker 1: the thing, Rumble and wake Up, Rumble, eyes and Ears
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Speaker 1: and X eyes and Ears.
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Speaker 2: Nice. Well, I think you got a lot of folks,
2:05:33
Speaker 2: some new subscribers here to night, Charles. I'm glad to.
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Speaker 1: Say follow me, follow follow me on next and all that.
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Speaker 4: All right?
2:05:40
Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate that, sir, and I appreciate your sharing
2:05:42
Speaker 2: some of your service time. There were stories of that,
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Speaker 2: and Nick is always sir. I appreciate you co fridays
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Speaker 2: with me. You got any closing statements on tonight's activities
2:05:51
Speaker 2: and perhaps some future activities for occult Rejects.
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Speaker 3: I'll say future activities. Yeah, we do have again. I
2:05:59
Speaker 3: think I mentioned we have Little Kenny with Julian Kobe
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Speaker 3: coming out next week, a showing Jamatri that weekend, that
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Speaker 3: we also got Virginia Guffrey and right A Leisha. Yeah
2:06:09
Speaker 3: that's interesting. Yeah, yeah, I thought that is good. I
2:06:13
Speaker 3: am working on Jacob bo Im still. I'm almost done
2:06:15
Speaker 3: with that. That'll be a solo show that I'll be
2:06:17
Speaker 3: dropping a few weeks eventually too. But uh yeah, I
2:06:20
Speaker 3: had a good time. Thank you. It was great to
2:06:22
Speaker 3: meet you, Charles. I had heard good things about you
2:06:24
Speaker 3: from JJ and Heidi, so awesome like that personally meet you.
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Speaker 3: So yeah, man, it was a good time, good chat.
2:06:30
Speaker 3: I think we you know again, I just thought it
2:06:33
Speaker 3: was a good discussion. I think we all kind of
2:06:34
Speaker 3: like saw the things, saw everything from the same perspective,
2:06:38
Speaker 3: same time pretty well. Yeah, so uh yeah, check out
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Speaker 3: major podcasts and uh if you can, I'm just trying
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Speaker 3: you have any weird and paranormal stories, please send them
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Speaker 3: over to Headley Heller's Giant podcast. I think at Jamie,
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Speaker 3: I could be wrong. I should probably know if I'm
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Speaker 3: gonna promote it. But yeah, if you got any crazy stories,
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Speaker 3: hit up Headless let him know, write them some stuff,
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Speaker 3: or see if you can come on the show for
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Speaker 3: his his headless mailbag.
2:07:13
Speaker 2: Thank you, No, I appreciate it, Nick, Thank you sir again.
2:07:17
Speaker 2: I think we've had a wonderful conversation here. Appreciate your
2:07:19
Speaker 2: gents time and and conversation and insight.
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Speaker 1: For sure.
2:07:23
Speaker 2: I certainly enjoy these roundtable discussions and uh sharing these
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Speaker 2: one final thought on these movies. By sharing a clip
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Speaker 2: from the film dead Man on campus, I will h
2:08:31
Speaker 2: These are my final thoughts on Bill Gates and some
2:08:34
Speaker 2: of our discussions evening here, gents, nice, we need some sound,
2:08:41
Speaker 2: so go away, let me.
2:08:42
Speaker 3: In before they see me. For who sees you? I
2:08:46
Speaker 3: think I'll be followed.
2:08:48
Speaker 1: People aren't being followed.
2:08:52
Speaker 3: Oh god, come on, what's going on? Are you in
2:08:55
Speaker 3: some kind of trouble?
2:08:56
Speaker 4: Listen, Kurt Cobain didn't kill himself.
2:08:59
Speaker 1: You understand he's not dead.
2:09:00
Speaker 4: He invents foster a living near Mount Saint Helen's.
2:09:03
Speaker 1: You're kidding, why?
2:09:05
Speaker 4: It's not their idea.
2:09:06
Speaker 1: They're being blackmailed into it.
2:09:08
Speaker 4: But the man responsible, so rich, so powerful, he'll stop
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Speaker 4: at nothing. To make sure this information stays suppressed.
2:09:15
Speaker 3: What's his name?
2:09:16
Speaker 1: I can't tell you that.
2:09:19
Speaker 4: Bill Gates, Bill Gates.
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Speaker 2: Those guys were ahead of their times in nineteen ninety eight,
2:09:26
Speaker 2: is all I'm saying. I'm about Kirk Coban, Vince Fossrom
2:09:29
Speaker 2: just saying Bill Gates being this arch overlord. Right, So
2:09:33
Speaker 2: I thought that was funny. No, I appreciate metro Gent's time,
2:09:36
Speaker 2: and again, any last and final statements before we call
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Speaker 2: her in.
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Speaker 1: In luck to everybody, stay positive, enjoy life, be good.
2:09:46
Speaker 2: So there you go. That's a good, good, good way
2:09:48
Speaker 2: to end at their Charles. I appreciate sir, and folks
2:09:50
Speaker 2: of the interwebs, appreciate your time, and we'll see you
2:09:53
Speaker 2: next time.