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Set 1: Powering Through · Stugotz and Company

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  Speaker 1: the game. You're listening to Stugats and Company.
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  Speaker 2: It is Stegts and Company, presented by FanDuel and the
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  Speaker 2: FanDuel Sports Book. Israel Gudierrez is with us today. He
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  Speaker 2: is with us on the zoom. He sounds awful. He
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  Speaker 2: does we all well, we all figured, I.
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  Speaker 1: Mean he is.
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  Speaker 2: He had the strongest immune system amongst all of us,
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  Speaker 2: and clearly he doesn't.
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  Speaker 1: And that's a shock to everybody. How are you is he?
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  Speaker 3: I'm doing well.
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  Speaker 4: This is the times where I like regret having a
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  Speaker 4: bunch of nieces and nephews or they're just like man
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  Speaker 3: Around them all the time.
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  Speaker 4: I don't build up the big strength that you know
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  Speaker 4: my sisters do, and so when I go around them
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  Speaker 4: every once in a while and they pass something along,
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  Speaker 4: it's just deadly.
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  Speaker 3: Sometimes I shouldn't say deadly.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, But is he wanted to come in, you should
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  Speaker 2: not say deadly no. Is he wanted to come in today?
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  Speaker 2: We told him he couldn't because you know, if his
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  Speaker 2: immune system can't handle it, I'm pretty certain mine can't
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  Speaker 2: handle whatever it is that he has. And so he's
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  Speaker 2: joining us on the Zoom. Mike Golick is going to
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  Speaker 2: fill in again here on Radio Today, and Michael Wilbon
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  Speaker 2: is going to join us to start the show. I
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  Speaker 2: am very excited about that. Yes, I made friends with
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  Speaker 2: Michael Wilbon while he was almost favor to fill in
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  Speaker 2: for me. Well you know what happened, is he? What happened?
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  Speaker 2: Well Goldok's a Hall of Famer filling in for you.
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  Speaker 2: What happened with Wilbon is he actually saw me as
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  Speaker 2: a father at the Final four at Northwestern, and I
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  Speaker 2: think it.
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  Speaker 1: Changed his opinion of me. And so I'm very excited. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: what I.
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  Speaker 3: Saw because I was watching the game.
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  Speaker 4: Congratulations to you, Thank you and Rachel, Thank you, mostly Rachel.
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  Speaker 1: Mostly Rachel. Yes, I didn't do anything.
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  Speaker 4: Right, but I saw wilbon interviewed during the broadcast, and
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  Speaker 4: I was like, Wow, this is going to be a moment,
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  Speaker 4: like there's the collision course happening here Stu Goatts, Mike Wilbond.
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  Speaker 4: And it turns out that you guys made nice So
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  Speaker 4: I like to hear that.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I am looking forward to it. We also have
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  Speaker 2: And this is the reason is he wanted to come on. A.
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  Speaker 2: He was tired of not talking about basketball.
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  Speaker 3: This is his time.
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  Speaker 1: He loves this shit.
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  Speaker 2: And B there was a press conference a Q and
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  Speaker 2: A given yesterday in a particular radio show that that
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  Speaker 2: upset is real goody aras, And so we want to
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  Speaker 2: have a little Q and A to counter the Q
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  Speaker 2: and A.
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  Speaker 3: How about that? I mean, all right, I'll take that.
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  Speaker 5: Much like Izzy, I'm sick of this Oklahoma City thunder team.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm sick of talking about the prior show
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  Speaker 1: I was on.
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  Speaker 2: I gotta be honest with you, Jesus Christ Almighty, I
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  Speaker 2: too am sick of Oklahoma City.
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  Speaker 1: Is he what a weird series, man?
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  Speaker 2: Because it's the rare it's the rare series that has
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  Speaker 2: arrived at a seventh game. But the series hasn't been
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  Speaker 2: right at all. The last four games have been blowouts
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  Speaker 2: and so not a great series. But we all get
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  Speaker 2: what we want, especially Nick fans. We get the best
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  Speaker 2: two words in sports, Game seven, Game seven followed by
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  Speaker 2: Game two, and we also get rest. And so we're
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  Speaker 2: just waiting around as Nick fans, to see who we're
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  Speaker 2: gonna face it at this point, I don't want anything
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  Speaker 2: to do with Wendy. I don't want that alien at
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  Speaker 2: Madison Square Garden. He'll take that place over and make
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  Speaker 2: it his.
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  Speaker 1: I don't.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it's funny because I text you, guys toward
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  Speaker 4: the end of Game one of this series, which is
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  Speaker 4: the best game of the series. You're right by far,
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  Speaker 4: and I said the Spurs didn't sound like the most
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  Speaker 4: profound statement at the time because it felt like everybody
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  Speaker 4: in the country was saying this, But I said, finally, oh,
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  Speaker 4: the Spurs are going to win the championship, because it
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  Speaker 4: felt like they could still get more of what they
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  Speaker 4: wanted against Oklahoma City than Oklahoma City can against San Antonio.
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  Speaker 4: Now that has basically flip flopped from game to game
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  Speaker 4: where it looks like sometimes it looks like, wow, the
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  Speaker 4: Spurs really do. Like Game six, the Spurs really had more.
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  Speaker 4: It felt like they could go to and if some
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  Speaker 4: of that was Wemby because he was hitting threes and
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  Speaker 4: then doing the whole hey, let me just throw it
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  Speaker 4: off the backboard to myself.
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  Speaker 3: Game again.
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  Speaker 4: It just felt like they could take away more from
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  Speaker 4: the Thunder than vice versa. But you go to those
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  Speaker 4: games in Oklahoma City, Taylor, and it feels like that's
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  Speaker 4: when the Thunder can get what they want. And it's
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  Speaker 4: more of what you were saying earlier in the series
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  Speaker 4: is Hey, they have more experience, they have more ways
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  Speaker 4: to get the wins. I still believe in the Thunder.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, Izzy, this series had all the hype. Game one
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  Speaker 5: surpassed the hype, and then to Stu's point, it has
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  Speaker 5: felt almost unwatchable to a certain extent with the play
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  Speaker 5: style that this Thunder team has, and it feels like
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  Speaker 5: this is gonna be a bad look for the league.
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  Speaker 5: Where Game seven will most likely be determined based on
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  Speaker 5: how the refs call the game. Where you have Game
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  Speaker 5: five at Oklahoma City, SGA shoots seventeen free throws before
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  Speaker 5: they even get to the fourth quarter. The Thunder win
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  Speaker 5: by thirteen. Game six in San Antonio, so he's six
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  Speaker 5: of eighteen from the field, and he shoots just three
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  Speaker 5: free throws. They lose by twenty seven. It seems like
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  Speaker 5: whoever is calling this game and the impact the refs
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  Speaker 5: have is kind of kind of gonna determine who wins
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  Speaker 5: the series?
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  Speaker 2: Is he It's so funny because when Oklahoma is playing
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  Speaker 2: at home, it seems like they have the deeper team
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  Speaker 2: and the deeper bench, and when San Antonio is playing
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  Speaker 2: at home, it seems like they have the deeper team
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  Speaker 2: and they have the deeper bench. And I will say
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  Speaker 2: this about Oklahoma City. If they're gonna play that poorly
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  Speaker 2: on the road, it's San Antonio. Imagine what the Mecca
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  Speaker 2: is gonna do to that team?
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  Speaker 4: All right, Yes, but I think it has a lot
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  Speaker 4: to do with Wemby and not as much to do
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  Speaker 4: with the place that they're playing. But I'm just wondering,
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  Speaker 4: do you guys think that it is more Oklahoma City
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  Speaker 4: not doing what they normally do or is it the
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  Speaker 4: Spurs and Wemby actually affecting them? Right, because you know,
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  Speaker 4: you talk about the free throws and everything else, And look,
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  Speaker 4: am I.
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  Speaker 1: Allowed to feel bad for the referees.
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  Speaker 4: Because I think this is an impossible series to referee
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  Speaker 4: when you've got Victor Wembinyama who they're being. You know,
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  Speaker 4: this is probably the first series or the first time
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  Speaker 4: we've seen a team go super let's just go physical
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  Speaker 4: in air quotes with Victor Wenbinyama and him have to
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  Speaker 4: really deal with it, and the referees not really knowing
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  Speaker 4: what they're looking at. And then you've got you know,
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  Speaker 4: the Flopperonis over there in the thunder and you don't
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  Speaker 4: know what's a foul and what's not a foul. I
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  Speaker 4: feel sorry for them a little bit, but I do
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  Speaker 4: feel like the Spurs can take the thunder out of
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  Speaker 4: what they're doing more regularly.
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  Speaker 3: It doesn't matter where they are.
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  Speaker 2: I think the big question is who is the referee
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  Speaker 2: for Game seven? Is it Scott Foster? Because that guy
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  Speaker 2: loves to control the game and he will call a
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  Speaker 2: ton of fouls a SGA will get We'll find himself
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  Speaker 2: on the foul line a lot, and if he does,
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  Speaker 2: they're gonna win because consistently over the last two years,
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  Speaker 2: when he gets the foul line a lot, that team
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  Speaker 2: wins most of their games. And so I think that
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  Speaker 2: really depends on who the referee is. I'm not certain
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  Speaker 2: who the ref is. Hopefully for Oklahoma City, they'll get
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  Speaker 2: the referee they that they had in Game five, They'll
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  Speaker 2: get that same games Brothers, Yes.
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  Speaker 4: Tony Brothers definitely looks like if you just took some
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  Speaker 4: still frames together, it looks like he's in the pocket
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  Speaker 4: of the thunder.
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  Speaker 3: But I do think that the main thing in the
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  Speaker 3: game that the Spurs win.
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  Speaker 4: It feels like they really take advantage of the fast break,
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  Speaker 4: and that's a lot easier to.
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  Speaker 3: Do at home.
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  Speaker 4: You know, yesterday they were running hard, and if they
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  Speaker 4: can still somehow do that and effectively in Oklahoma City,
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  Speaker 4: then obviously they still have a shot. I think the
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  Speaker 4: more difficult part to recreate, to replicate from San Antonio
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  Speaker 4: to Oklahoma City is the non Wemby minutes, Right, those
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  Speaker 4: were great in Game six? Yes, can you replicate that
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  Speaker 4: in a Game seven on the road against the champs,
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  Speaker 4: maybe getting a little bit of a friendly whistle and
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  Speaker 4: you know, obviously playing as if their life depended on it.
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  Speaker 5: Is You mentioned the non Wemby minutes, and this stat
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  Speaker 5: kind of compares and contrasts SGA and Wemby's impact this series,
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  Speaker 5: because I think everybody can kind of agree that SGA
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  Speaker 5: has been pretty underwhelming the series in terms of being
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  Speaker 5: just a back to back MVP. The Spurs are plus
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  Speaker 5: fifty five with Wemby on the court this series, they're
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  Speaker 5: minus thirty eight without him. Is the Thunder are minus
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  Speaker 5: twenty eight with sgaight on the court through six games,
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  Speaker 5: and they're plus eleven without SGA.
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  Speaker 3: Overrated and No, it just speaks to a few things.
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  Speaker 4: It speaks to the rotation being altered, right because they
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  Speaker 4: have Jaalen Williams in and out, They had aj Mitchell
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  Speaker 4: in and out, you know, and even somebody like Isaiah
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  Speaker 4: Joe is somebody that he could use as a every
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  Speaker 4: once in a while, doesn't have to use him necessarily,
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  Speaker 4: but he's been using them lately. And so I think
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  Speaker 4: when you have the team that's required to be together, right,
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  Speaker 4: five guys on a string at all times on both
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  Speaker 4: sides of the ball, frankly, but five guys on a
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  Speaker 4: string at all times, when you alter it, even in
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  Speaker 4: the slightest, you're going to get, you know, imperfect resolutions, right,
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  Speaker 4: imperfect solutions. And with SGA on offense, it's almost as
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  Speaker 4: if he needs to isolate more. It's almost as if
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  Speaker 4: he needs to just get everybody out the way and
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  Speaker 4: say look. For a couple of reasons, One, it's a
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  Speaker 4: lot easier for those referees to make those calls when
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  Speaker 4: all eyes are on the isolation, right, You're not looking
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  Speaker 4: over there, looking over there off the ball to see
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  Speaker 4: if it's isolation. Everybody's got their eyes on the ball.
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  Speaker 4: That's when SGA gets those foul calls. But also it
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  Speaker 4: just eliminates a lot of the Hey, if Jared McCain
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  Speaker 4: decides to take five straight shots and goes one for five,
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  Speaker 4: all of a sudden, it's a ten oh run. We
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  Speaker 4: need to knock that stuff out of here. I know,
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  Speaker 4: I two time MVP can get my shot whenever I
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  Speaker 4: want it, even against Wemby. He's shown in this series.
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  Speaker 4: So it feels like you almost need more of the
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  Speaker 4: usage of SGA.
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  Speaker 5: STU, I'm dancing around what I actually want to say
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  Speaker 5: right now, Yeah, go SGA. It is a pathetic play
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  Speaker 5: style for a back to back MVP.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you.
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  Speaker 5: And I'm at the point right now where I'm watching
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  Speaker 5: SGA and I had the realization yesterday SGA is James
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  Speaker 5: Harden with better pr YEP.
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  Speaker 1: I want them, I do. I desperately want.
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  Speaker 2: I'm telling you right now, the Knicks win that series
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  Speaker 2: at five, they do, Isaiah Joe is average Joe. In fact,
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  Speaker 2: they should change that term average Joe to Isaiah Joe.
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  Speaker 1: Put it on the pole teller.
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  Speaker 4: Who's who's defending SGA for the Knicks? Is it Michail Bridges?
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  Speaker 4: Probably is it Ojan Andobi?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Mitchell Robinson is healthy. He's not the guy.
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  Speaker 1: But by the way, put this on the pole. Is
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  Speaker 1: there a guy who doesn't?
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  Speaker 2: Is there a guy in the NBA who has who
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  Speaker 2: who can play better without the use of his fingers?
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  Speaker 1: That Mitchell Robinson?
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  Speaker 2: Because like he is fine, he broke his pinky, He
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  Speaker 2: is going to be back. He doesn't need his hands.
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  Speaker 2: He just sets screens, you know. So, uh who is
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  Speaker 2: going to guard SGA? It's probably gonna be I would
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  Speaker 2: think Og or probably McHale Bridges.
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  Speaker 5: I feel like in the early season matchups, is he
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  Speaker 5: They've matched uh Okc's front court Hartenstein and Chet with
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  Speaker 5: Kat and Og, so I would assume that leaves Bridges.
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  Speaker 2: Let me rephrase the pole question that came out clumsily.
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  Speaker 2: Does Mitchell Robinson need his hands playing basketball?
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  Speaker 3: He is such a confusing basketball player.
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  Speaker 4: I've seen clips of him taking and making threes and
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  Speaker 4: pickup games, and yet he can't shoot a free throw
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  Speaker 4: that goes an inch higher than the actual rim. It's
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  Speaker 4: the flattest shot I've ever seen.
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  Speaker 3: I don't understand it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, but I love him. I mean, scrappy guy,
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  Speaker 1: he'st that's the little things. Yes, you need guys like that.
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  Speaker 5: There was no way when that injury update comes out
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  Speaker 5: that Mitchell Robinson broke his pinky and would need surgery,
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  Speaker 5: and at first it was his status was unclear. Now
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  Speaker 5: they've upgraded to he fully expects to play Game one.
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  Speaker 5: There was no way Mitchell Robinson was missing this series
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  Speaker 5: because nobody has epitomized the Knicks journey from a joke
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  Speaker 5: to a contender more than Mitchell Robinson, because he's one
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  Speaker 5: of the only guys that's been there the entire time
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  Speaker 5: where he gets a second contract with the Knicks, and
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  Speaker 5: he was like the first player to get a second
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  Speaker 5: contract with the Knicks that they drafted since like Charlie
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  Speaker 5: Ward in the nineties.
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  Speaker 4: Yep, he's been even bother than finding out which pinky
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  Speaker 4: it was, because I was like.
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  Speaker 1: No, don't chop it off. Chop it off.
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  Speaker 2: He would tell that listen, nothing is going to keep
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  Speaker 2: him from playing in the NBA Finals. And Taylor is right.
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  Speaker 2: If Mitchell needed to, he would just say, hey, take
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  Speaker 2: it off. I'm good without it. I'm probably better without it.
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  Speaker 1: You never know, he.
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  Speaker 3: Would Ronnie Lot that thing for sure.
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  Speaker 5: I mean he's shooting thirty percent with the pinky. Yeah, Like,
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  Speaker 5: what's what's the worst that happens if we chopped the
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  Speaker 5: pinky off, he shoots twenty percent.
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  Speaker 2: Right, or maybe he shoots forty percent, and you know
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  Speaker 2: it was the pinky slack all the time.
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  Speaker 5: It's like Rookie of the Year when Henry Rowan Gardner
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  Speaker 5: breaks his arm and all of a sudden comes back.
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  Speaker 3: What you guys haven't talked to you guys about this obviously?
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  Speaker 4: What you guys think of Wemby sending the code red
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  Speaker 4: ordering a code red when he said, have you seen
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  Speaker 4: the I don't know if this is real or not,
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  Speaker 4: because I don't know what's real. But did you see
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  Speaker 4: the other image of the other angle where he said
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  Speaker 4: hard foul in their ears apparently? And I was like,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know what to think about that.
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  Speaker 1: I love them, Yeah, do so.
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  Speaker 5: He whispered hard foul to plumbly and the next play
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  Speaker 5: plumbly absolutely levels Jared mccannon. It was kind of a
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  Speaker 5: bus might.
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  Speaker 3: Be on both of them.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, well they all committed hard fouls. I'm poor
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  Speaker 4: Jared McCain.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, they're soldiers. They did their job, they took their orders,
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  Speaker 2: they did their job. I mean Wemby told them to
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: do it. And by the way, if you're gonna whisper
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: put this on the pull. When you whisper hard foul
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: into an NBA player's year, does it need to be
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: a plumb lee?
• 15:18
  Speaker 4: Well, I'm wondering does it is this like a Ray
• 15:20
  Speaker 4: Rice situation? Like when you actually see it, is it
• 15:23
  Speaker 4: worse than not seeing it?
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: Like hey? Or is it lamer because he just said
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: hard foul and you.
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: Really wanted to, like in your mind, you wanted like
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: a big speech that you better like that.
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: Otherwise it's just hard foul with the French accent.
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: Listen, Wemby saved the All Star Game and he is
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: now saving the NBA.
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: People are glued to Wemby and he is bringing.
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: Hard foul playoff basketball back, and I applaud him for it.
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: I really do.
• 15:46
  Speaker 5: Is he The one thing that I do respect from
• 15:48
  Speaker 5: the Spurs this series is it seems like if if
• 15:52
  Speaker 5: they're going to get fouls called against them, they're at
• 15:55
  Speaker 5: least making the Thunder earn the foul calls. Where I
• 15:59
  Speaker 5: thought that Jared McCain one to be fair to the
• 16:01
  Speaker 5: Thunder was pretty bushy because Jared McCain is not guilty
• 16:06
  Speaker 5: of any of the flopping alligations like SGA is. But
• 16:10
  Speaker 5: like if Sga is going to go to the basket
• 16:12
  Speaker 5: and get fouled, it feels like the Spurs are at
• 16:14
  Speaker 5: least making him earn it.
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, and they should.
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: I know, Stefan Castle maybe needs to chill a little bit,
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: especially in like isolation situations where again all sets of
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: eyes are on you. You know, maybe just relax and
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: not foul him as often as you do. But yeah,
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: I'm with you there, man. It's it's tough. It's a
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: tough team to like, it's a tough team to watch,
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: and when everybody's doing it, it's just it's hard.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: Like lou Dort, do you know how thick that dude is?
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: And like he's sitting there flopping around too.
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: It's just frustrating.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: Taylor is because he has so much time on his
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: hands and we're just waiting around to see who we're
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: gonna play in the NBA Finals.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: He's unhinged. He has added a person.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: To his list of people that he wants off the bandwagon?
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: What is this list list of people that you can't stand?
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: So not the list of the bandwagon? This is my
• 17:02
  Speaker 5: list of haters?
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, good?
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: Where they're my shit list? Basically, good and I have
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: a new addition today, Kevin O'Connor.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: Hmm, okay, really Kevin O'Connor.
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: Kevin O'Connor was the only media member out of one
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: hundred media members with a vote. Yeah, that did not
• 17:20
  Speaker 5: vote Jalen Brunson to an All NBA team. Not his
• 17:23
  Speaker 5: first team, not his second team, not his third team.
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: Wow, how does one do that? What were the choices
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: ahead of him?
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: So, I'm glad you asked.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: You know the choice is so, he said.
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: No, You're gonna be surprised, I think by some of
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: these names. He said he was sorry to Knicks fans
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: that he didn't vote, and his reasoning afterwards was so asinine.
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: He said, if the voting was after the playoffs, he'd
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: probably be on his first team. But you look at
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: Jalen Brunton. He was a top ten scorer in the league.
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: He was eleventh and assists per game. You could see
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: the impact that Jalen Brunson has on this team to
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: get the Knicks to a three seed in the East.
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: He said his last third team spot was down to
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: Jalen Johnson, Denny Odvida, and Tyrese Maxi And this was
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: exact quote is he I think Brunson was on the
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: bubble for the third team spot. For me, it was
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: about verse Tyrese Maxie versus Jalen Johnson versus Denny Advida.
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: At the time, I favored Avida as a two way
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: guy had a big year in Portland. Jalen Johnson an
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: offensive full crumb with the Atlanta Hawks, very versatile for
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: that team. And then it was really for me, it
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: was a matter of Maxie versus Brunson. I favored Maxie
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: slightly because I thought Brunson he carries a heavier load offensively,
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: but Maxi had a much better defensive regular season.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: He should lose his vote, thank you.
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a tough one, Avdia, Avdya, I've messed that
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: one up a few times as well.
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: That's amazing.
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: So it basically came down to Maxi versus Brunson for
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: him and the.
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: First two spots. The first two teams were taken up by.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: Huh, good question.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: Yes, he doesn't have that information. He only has him
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: on his shit list.
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: Hey guy, So the first team, I mean, there's no
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: real position, right, So it's SGA, it's uh Luca. Right,
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: So let's just say those are two obvious choices ahead
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: of it.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: Well, hold on, if you did it after the postseason, though,
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: and I think you should do it after the postseason,
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: he would probably take SGA off.
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: I mean, right, I mean, that's that's a whole different conversation.
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: We can't just change the set, change the rules and
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: Mike Brown Coach of.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: The Year over But hold on, hold on, yes, and
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: just stop for a second.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: Is he don't you think they should factor in the
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: postseason when doing these awards?
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: I do. I mean, what the biggest of the.
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: New award, like, if you want to do playoffs MVP,
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: which I do believe the the NHL has a version
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: of that, right instead of just a finals MVP or
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: just a conference finals MVP, if you want to do
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: an entire playoffs MVP, I'm all about that. I feel
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: like the NBA is already sort of stuck in its
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: ways because rather than do a full playoffs MVP, they
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: just decided to go MVP. And now they have two
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: of those, and so you know, they're basically eliminating the
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: first and second rounds from any sort of awards assignment.
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: But no, I don't think the regular season or the
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: postseason should be included in the regular season, all right,
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: so do we have the fun I do think that
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: there's other questions there, like Donovan Mitchell was the second
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: team Donvian Mitchell or Jalen Brunston. I mean, this is
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: without examining the numbers at all. It feels like Jalen
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: Brunson had a better year and did more for his
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: team than Donovan Mitchell. So it feels like if you're
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: just isolating the Tyres MAXI versus Jalen Brunson, you're kind
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: of not really including everybody into the conversation.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Can you give me the entire second team there?
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: Because as we know, basketball is positionless now, and so
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: I'm just wondering who else made that team?
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: Kevin Durant, Kawhi Leonard, Donovan Mitchell, Jalen Brown, and Jalen Brunson.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: I mean easy one.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Take Durant's off, put Brunton in, right, I mean, seriously,
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: Brnston's already it.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: Brunton's on.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, I understand that, But I'm talking for
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: me and O'Connor's standpoint, like whatever, Yeah, I mean a
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: couple of O'Connor's cutting it up. How about that I'm
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: just saying, from his standpoint, he needs if he voted
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: for Durant, he should be a shit himself over Jalen Brunson.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: That's where That's what I'm saying. Do we know if
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: he voted for Durant? Do we have any idea?
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: Now I'm looking for his list.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: He's just on our ship list, all right, we pore back.
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: To be I mean, Kevin Durant is permanently on your
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: shit list because Kevin Durant hell of a year and
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: deserve to be right up there with the second teamers.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: Y Well, guess who's gonna be watching Jalen Brunson playing
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: the NBA Finals?
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: Kevin Durant, Vin Durant about that?
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: I mean, he played seventy eight games this season.
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: Kenny, did I know they wish to talk about everybody resting?
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: He played seventy eight, average twenty six and at thirty seven,
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: thirty six years old.
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: Pretty impressive.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: I think the Rockets wish he played less. I mean,
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: I am so mean to Kevin Durant. I love you, Ken,
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: I do, but Taylor is this.
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: I don't not having him, not having Jalen Brunson on
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: any of the three all NBA teams, whilst Jalen Brunson
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: still made the second team. Is that something where you
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: really like, is that deserving of a shit list position?
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: Or is it just like I need all the glory
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: for my guy.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: Maybe Ian's vote or whatever his name is gets him
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: to the first team, though perhaps you know, maybe.
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not even about that. And it's like, come on,
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: be a respected NBA journalists, You're a respected NBA journalist.
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: How am I supposed to take your basketball opinion series
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: when you watch Jalen Brunton and say he wasn't one
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: of the fifteen best players in the NBA this season.
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's hard to say. It's practically impossible
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: to say. I was a little bit surprised with the
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: Jalen Johnson part of the All thirteam because it felt
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: like that was a maybe not second half of the season,
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: but let's say second two thirds of the season type
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: of performance from him, and I thought maybe that.
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: Was somebody you could leave off.
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: But hey, you know, I mean to each and ow
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: and I think Jalen got what he deserves at that
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: second team spot. And you know, if he could be
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: on your shit list, I'm sure he can come off
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: of it.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: Right, Is Kevin O'Connor an NBA expert? Because I'm just
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: I'm thinking, like I'm going through the rollodecks of people
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: I want to hear from ian NBA news breaks, and
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you Kevin O'Connor is dead.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Last, Like.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: Rankings, is that bad?
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Is that mean? I mean, I just I don't how
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: does he have a vote? I mean.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: Have him on and then just think opposite of.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Whatever he says.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: Yes, we love Kevin O'Connor. He's very credible. He's one
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: of the best NBA guys going. Taylor, get him on
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: the show next week.
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: Okay, So he also said he he says he had
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: I mean he made a mistake.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: At least that's a yes.
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: I found his second team finally, right, it's Jalen Brown,
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: Jalen during Kawhi, Leonard Donovan, Mitchell, Jamal Murray.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: So we didn't vote from Jamal Murray is the oof?
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean just off off the dome. Jamal Murray
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: is the oof there.
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: I mean not because he was left off of the
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: second team or whatever, but just off the top my head,
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: just Jalen had a better season.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: Do you think if he asked all the other four
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: guys on the second team, hey, we're going to trade
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: Jalen Duran for Jalen Brunson, they'd be okay with it.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: The other part about that is, by the way, because
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: if you're again, if you're including Jamal Murray into the conversation,
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: throw him into the tyres MAXI, Jalen Brunson, Jamal Murray trio.
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: I'm still picking Jalen Brunson first of those three.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: And he had Jamal Murray on his second team.
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: So I don't know if that's giving more a nod
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: to the Western Conference because it's more difficult. I don't
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: think that's necessarily fair. But you know, voting is hard, man.
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: I used to vote on a lot of things, and
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: I used to get shitited from everybody when I was
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: Never was I more nervous than when I was an
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: AP college football voter. And I'd wake up on Mondays
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: and be like, please tell them I didn't forget Somebody,
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: please tell me there isn't, like, you know, a Mississippi
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: State that I was supposed to put in there, and
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: they're all just gonna flood my emails.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: It's just it's hard. It's not the easiest thing in
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: the world. Give them some slack.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: Do you do you have a story if someone texting
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: you were calling you because they're upset that you forgot
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: about them.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, it's really old.
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: It's I don't even remember the details, but I just
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: remember every other week in the A People just somebody
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: was either criticizing mine or telling me I completely let
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: somebody off. And I'm a joke of a reporter, and
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: it's just like, man, it's just.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: The A people, Taylor.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: That's so mean of you? Is the air working at
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: the radio station?
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: Isy, you picked a good day to be sick because
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: the power is out. I had to climb to not
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: one and two flight of stairs with a backpack on
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: my shoulders. I am still. I mean, listen, I'm still
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: trying to catch my breath. Bad shape right down. The
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: elevators aren't working. Someone is stuck at an elevator. I mean,
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: I am nervous. I am nervous about the entire day,
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: mostly about walking back down those stairs when the eater.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: How about that?
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: So the elevator that time stands still is now actually stuck.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: Yes, it's just standing still.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, So easy.
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: I realized something was awry where I got off on
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: seventy five and all the lights were off, all the
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: traffic lights, and it felt like a lawless society because
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: that's a pretty busy intersection and nobody knew when to
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: go and when to not go. So I was just
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: like inching my way up. And as I'm getting there,
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, that was weird that that light was out.
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: The next lights out, the next lights out, the next
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: lights out, and I'm like, okay, let me just get
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: into the studio right now. And I walk in and
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: there's alarms blaring and the lights are just completely out.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: Man, I mean, I hope I'm not seriously sick, but
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: I'm glad I'm sick here. But Taylor also spoiler alert.
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: In South Florida, if there's ever lights out, it doesn't
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: matter what the intersection is, nobody's going to know what
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: to do. Nobody's gonna know what to do, even if
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: it's the lightest intersection in all of South Florida.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: Even when they were, people barely know what to do.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: Tailor in that situation, I'm about to cough. Yeah, no,
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: I could hear it. Go ahead. That's usually me. It's
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: easy this time. I'm super happy about that.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: Normally, in those situations lights aren't working, you just pin it, right,
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: that's what you do, Just keep going until someone stops you.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: Right, I mean no, I.
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: Was doing the I was doing the exact Oh I
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: was crawling.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Well you're safer. Yeah, I was crawling.
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: The guy behind me is going like seventy five miles
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: per hour, flooring it into like the back of my car,
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: and I'm like, I'm going very slow. I'm looking at
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: the guy to my right and being like I'm giving
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: him the thumbs up, like am I allowed to go now?
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: He's like he's giving me the emphatic no, and I'm like, okay,
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: I'll wait here.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: I guess little teamwork there. Huh did he give you
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: the de Kende Matumbo finger?
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: He gave me another finger.