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Stop The Cap · We Talk Back

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Speaker 1: Welcome to We Talk Back Podcast, the production of iHeartRadio
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Speaker 1: and the Black Effect Network Talk.
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Speaker 2: We're just two unapologetically black women with an opinion who talks.
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Speaker 2: What's up, y'all?
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Speaker 1: It's your girl, a j Holiday, what's up Tam Bam, y'all.
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Speaker 2: It's meet tm ban. I love y'all so much. Thank
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Speaker 2: you for coming back again. It's a girl. What you
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Speaker 2: do this weekend?
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Speaker 1: Not a damn thing? Not a damn thing. Oh sorry,
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Speaker 1: from going to my one of my friend's funeral, my
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Speaker 1: friend's son's funeral. That pretty much drained me. Child. That
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Speaker 1: was Saturday, and I was no good. I probably ain't
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Speaker 1: wake up til about one o'clock Sunday. This is a rough,
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Speaker 1: a rough weekend kind of Yeah, I'm sorry.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I didn't this ship either. This weekend. It
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Speaker 2: was raining and I was just tired. So I went
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Speaker 2: to work and I did not once I got home
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Speaker 2: from work, I just did not leave again till Monday.
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Speaker 1: It was a good days. That's usually how my weekends be.
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Speaker 1: For real. If I'm in town, I'm in the house
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Speaker 1: because it ain't nothing outside. For real. I'll even be
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Speaker 1: like com mingling.
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Speaker 2: Aud here, like a commingle every now and then. But
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Speaker 2: I just rent was due, you know out.
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Speaker 1: I just I just paid my rent this morning. I
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Speaker 1: don't know why. I just I don't know. I just
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Speaker 1: intentionally wait to we got like until I guess it's
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Speaker 1: to the fourth usually, But I just I don't know.
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Speaker 1: Why Why do we Why do you delay? You got
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Speaker 1: the money today? Why delay some control? Like I did
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Speaker 1: send a maintenance request along with my rent though I
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Speaker 1: need a new washing machine, and why everybody else in
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Speaker 1: my building got h key padlocks? And I don't right,
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Speaker 1: I need some mother fucking upgrades, you hear me, I
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Speaker 1: need some motherfucking upgrades.
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Speaker 2: I'm here for you. Does getting the sins?
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Speaker 1: Who we got going on this week?
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Speaker 2: Y'all?
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Speaker 1: I really want to start with this is a brand
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Speaker 1: new headline. Of course, you know, you know our shows
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Speaker 1: are pre recorded. But today the reality TV star Sydney
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Speaker 1: Star the trans woman, which I mean, I don't I
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Speaker 1: don't think is technically trans if you haven't actually transitioned.
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Speaker 1: But reality show star Sydney Starr was arrested in Georgia
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Speaker 1: on multiple felony charges involving a minor. Okay, so apparently
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Speaker 1: she got busted. He got busted, in an MBAC suite
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Speaker 1: hotel with a child under the age of sixteen. They
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Speaker 1: have charged her with child molestation a sodomy. They have
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Speaker 1: not yet yet released any details because the victim is
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Speaker 1: a minor, but as of right now, Sydney has no
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Speaker 1: has not publicly responded to the allegations and wait and
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Speaker 1: the case remains on going. So look, yes, my.
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Speaker 2: Thing is, I don't care if you want to, I
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Speaker 2: don't care what you identify as, but please do not
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Speaker 2: identify as a child molestic because that's a problem.
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Speaker 1: Yes, And I think that's a lot of people's concern
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Speaker 1: with the LGBTQ community because they have been usurped. Right,
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Speaker 1: the old school LGBTQ ain't for none of that bullshit.
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Speaker 1: But they are trying to put these maps, these minor
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Speaker 1: attracted persons. They're trying to add that in at the
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Speaker 1: end of the Q. You see what I'm saying, Why
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Speaker 1: it becomes to be, you know, becomes so dangerous wanting
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Speaker 1: to be in female spaces, restrooms, stuff like that. We
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Speaker 1: don't know who these people are, what they're really into,
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Speaker 1: and they're hide and behind the guys of you know,
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Speaker 1: I'm just regularly we don't know.
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Speaker 2: Who nobody to fuck it is, honestly, you never know.
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Speaker 2: But just don't fucking touch the babies. That's my thing.
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Speaker 2: Lead the babies out of it. Stop, don't put your
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Speaker 2: hand on those baby, Like, what are you doing with
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Speaker 2: their child in the hotel?
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Speaker 1: Right?
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Speaker 2: M I don't know.
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Speaker 1: He's also sick too, And I'm making up a rumor.
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Speaker 1: I feel like I heard that before, Like what kind
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Speaker 1: of sick what they call it in the gay community,
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Speaker 1: the flu, Yeah, the flu very possible.
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Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot of people who live with that.
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Speaker 2: But just don't fuck with the babies. That's where I lit.
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Speaker 1: And it sounds like she got caught. He got caught
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Speaker 1: red handed, And I keep I'm saying he because I'm like,
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Speaker 1: you know, it's so weird, like when a when a
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Speaker 1: transwoman acts, or even like a gay guy acts, you know, feminine,
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Speaker 1: you automatically be like girl, you know, it just comes
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Speaker 1: and rolls off. But something happens when they commit a crime.
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Speaker 1: It's like collectively now people online in the comments calling
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Speaker 1: him a hymn as opposed to she. It's very interesting
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Speaker 1: to me. Once you commit a crime, you're no longer trans,
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Speaker 1: your whatever is exactly because I mean, technically, if he
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Speaker 1: goes to prison, he's probably going to go to a
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Speaker 1: male prison. Well, and that's where he would belong. Don't
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Speaker 1: fuck with the babies, lead the babies all everybody's leave
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Speaker 1: anybody alone. That's not a willing participant in devotion.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but still especially a reasonable child. So all right,
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Speaker 2: let me go over this. This is what I found
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Speaker 2: Ariana Grande we drew from London Musical after her rep share.
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Speaker 2: She'll be taking a break from the public Guye due
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Speaker 2: to ongoing public scrutiny. Now, I don't know if y'all
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Speaker 2: seen her, but she is very thin, and I think,
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Speaker 2: you know, it's some people like talking shit, but a
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Speaker 2: lot of people are concerned with her health. No, and
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Speaker 2: I'm sure she reads the comments and probably feels very
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Speaker 2: offended by some of the things that people say. And
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Speaker 2: it just made me think about Chad with Bozeman and
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Speaker 2: how he was sick and everybody was like, oh, saying
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Speaker 2: real mean ugly thanks to not knowing that he was
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Speaker 2: fighting for his life. So, you know, so I have
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Speaker 2: to give her some grace. I worry about her.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I worry about her. And what's the actress from
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Speaker 1: Wicked Cynthia Irrevio rival or the black woman who played
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Speaker 1: the wicked witch and Wicked who actually wasn't Wicked. But
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Speaker 1: it seems like neither one of them have been the
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Speaker 1: same since starting in that movie. And it's just the
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Speaker 1: weirdest thing.
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Speaker 2: It was some interesting energy when they were doing their
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Speaker 2: promo tour for the movie with some interesting and it's
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Speaker 2: going on.
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Speaker 1: It's almost like Cynthia was like a bodyguard for Aria
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Speaker 1: and Gande.
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Speaker 2: She was very protective of her. I thought they might
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Speaker 2: have been sisterling after I don't know, I don't know.
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Speaker 2: It was just and it might just be like a
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Speaker 2: sisterly or motherly loved her perhaps, but it was very
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Speaker 2: either boyfriend or mama bear. And I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at their hands, the hands
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Speaker 1: are all skinny, long nails, it's just it looks wicked,
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Speaker 1: just like the movie. And I remember a while ago
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Speaker 1: there was a Ario and Grande was on in the
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Speaker 1: red carpet and she was talking about how she went
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Speaker 1: to the some clinic call Happy Days or some shit
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Speaker 1: like that where they erased her memory. Brighter days, brighter days,
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Speaker 1: Okay they and I believe her right, So online they're
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Speaker 1: trying to say she was being sarcastic and trying to
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Speaker 1: be funny, But if y'all actually google this video, she
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Speaker 1: was dead ass serious, basically saying she needed to revisit
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Speaker 1: the clinic to get her memory back, and there are
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Speaker 1: places like that. You know. Nobody, nobody took Kanye West
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Speaker 1: serious when he was saying that his trainer, a Jewish
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Speaker 1: trainer who was in he was in the Canadian military,
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Speaker 1: basically drugged him and caused him to go into a
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Speaker 1: manic episode. He literally put out text messages of this
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Speaker 1: man telling him, you want to see your kids in
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Speaker 1: the future, what should I do to you next time?
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Speaker 1: And people act like Kanye Wes was the crazy person.
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Speaker 1: He's literally putting it in your face that these people
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Speaker 1: are are fucking with you know, fucking with their heads.
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Speaker 1: Mk Ultra is real. It's a real program. You can
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Speaker 1: pull up government documentation on mkulture. It's a it's a
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Speaker 1: brainwashing technique that they do. So I don't know, man,
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Speaker 1: the world is fucking crazy. Yeah, that's gonna be around here,
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Speaker 1: and I'll never be trying to sound like a I
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Speaker 1: don't even subscribe to like conspiracy theorists because the term
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Speaker 1: doesn't even make any sense, right, conspiracy and you look
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Speaker 1: at the definition of either one of those words, it
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Speaker 1: just doesn't even go together. But at some point you
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Speaker 1: gotta start questioning some of this ship, okay, and looking
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Speaker 1: deep into because everybody ain't crazy. I agree.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Prince for Ariana Grande that she you know,
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Speaker 2: hills from whatever she may or may not be going
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Speaker 2: to her.
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Speaker 1: A lot of them people sign up for exactly what
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Speaker 1: we're seeing. They signed up for it, they had an
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Speaker 1: expiration date, they wanted like, it's just things you gotta
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Speaker 1: do sometimes, right, I don't know. I mean, I side
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Speaker 1: more with how people want to live their life and
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Speaker 1: what they want to do. I'm with it. If you
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Speaker 1: like it, I love it. So anyway. Jim Jones, y'all listen,
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Speaker 1: I am a super duper dipset fan. Okay. When I
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Speaker 1: went to college, that's all. I was playing in my
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Speaker 1: ma's nine to nine with my Dolphin CD player, you remember,
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Speaker 1: I had like the Dolphin graphics with the blue blue
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Speaker 1: neon lights. Yes, I'm a big fan. But when I
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Speaker 1: tell you all that, nigga be getting on my damn nerves.
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Speaker 1: So now on, you know, Jim Jones Dave East fabulous
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Speaker 1: and may not have a podcast right, and may know
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Speaker 1: to me is the most funniest on that ship. You
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Speaker 1: talking me, I see it. I haven't really actually watched
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Speaker 1: a full episode of They Should Have You. No, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: but they made no funny as hell. But Dave East
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Speaker 1: was reading I guess it was like maybe somebody writing
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Speaker 1: this basically saying like somebody rolled in, I guess, and
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Speaker 1: Davies was reading it saying if the club scene is dead,
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Speaker 1: where women supposed to sit at in the club and
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Speaker 1: shit like that? And when did night life turn into
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Speaker 1: a boys club? Can the ladies get a seat? He
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Speaker 1: comes Jim Jones from Leftfield talk about this bottle? What
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Speaker 1: should we pay? What you say, pay nine hundred and
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Speaker 1: eight hundred dollars for a bottle? You're talking about eight
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Speaker 1: bottle of rolls? Now, y'all bitches can't come in to
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Speaker 1: set who you want? In this section he said he
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Speaker 1: was joking. He only was joking, and this is why
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Speaker 1: it's so important for men to check other men. Right.
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Speaker 1: He only said he was joking, and so the rest
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Speaker 1: of the group said that ship wasn't cool. Right, He
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Speaker 1: wasn't joking when he was first saying it because then
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Speaker 1: he later started talking about women wearing kitten heels to
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Speaker 1: the club, and Tammy just told me too, we used
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Speaker 1: to go to kitten heels is back in style.
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Speaker 2: They are in style. That's why he talking about it,
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Speaker 2: because he keeps saying them, the.
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Speaker 1: Niggas don't like kitten heels in the section. So I
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Speaker 1: don't know if y'all know you're supposed to still be
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Speaker 1: wearing six inch stripping heels in the section. Listen, if
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Speaker 1: you in a section with women your age, it's gonna
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Speaker 1: be some kitten heels in that bit because we tied
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Speaker 1: of walking the hills nigga with.
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Speaker 2: Any there is, and my thing is until you walk
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Speaker 2: them a mile in my shoes. Please don't tell me
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Speaker 2: what I can wear, sir, But it's your section. You
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Speaker 2: don't have to have a single kitten heel in there
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Speaker 2: if that's what you want, because guess what, I can
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Speaker 2: get my own set.
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Speaker 1: He wanted Mari sneakers and the Mari jeans. He just
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Speaker 1: want a bunch of niggas in the section to be
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Speaker 1: in a section by yourself, because what what are we
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Speaker 1: talking about? But yeah, it wasn't until the other men
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Speaker 1: right checked him on it. He was he was standing
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Speaker 1: by that ship that bitches. He don't want no bitches
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Speaker 1: in the section. And Mina was like, what what nigga?
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Speaker 1: Now I need women. I want all the bites in
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Speaker 1: my section. Yes, real men want women around and they
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Speaker 1: like to do things for women.
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Speaker 2: Right, drink up, there's more period champagne showers.
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Speaker 1: Fuck you talk about I feel bad for Christy Man.
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Speaker 1: Sometimes they just don't like us for real. Yeah, because
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Speaker 1: it's like some real life homo Uh what is the
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Speaker 1: word not homo eroticism, is homo sociality. And that's what
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Speaker 1: I be talking about. When niggas is gay in the mind.
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Speaker 1: They may never physically actually do a gay act, but
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Speaker 1: they really don't fuck with women like that. You know
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It would like, yeah, to have conversation
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Speaker 1: and converse and to be around men, and that shit
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Speaker 1: is fucking borderline gay.
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Speaker 2: I like got that because these niggas get on my nerves.
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Speaker 1: You like to be around women more.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I enjoyed the company of women more than men.
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Speaker 1: I okay, I do enjoy being around I kind of
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Speaker 1: like being around a mix of everybody. You know what
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Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, yes, if I'm in like doing an
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Speaker 1: intimate thing. I want to be with a man. If
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Speaker 1: I'm like out dinner, like or just maybe a trip
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Speaker 1: and stuff, I like to be with a man. But
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Speaker 1: like if we just doing like some bar shit, some
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Speaker 1: club shit, like lounge type shit, it could be like
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Speaker 1: a mixture like everybody, but just straight all women. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I like this. I just like a whole group of
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Speaker 1: people like like minded, all us chilling cuss and talking loud.
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Speaker 1: That's fun.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't even have to be exactly like minded,
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Speaker 2: because sometimes having a diverse opinion group shakes things up
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Speaker 2: a little bit and makes it more fun. Days out
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Speaker 2: of perspective, I can appreciate that my days.
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Speaker 1: Are debating as old witch.
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Speaker 2: Yiad.
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Speaker 1: We don't got a debate.
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Speaker 2: We just can have different perspective. It's always nice to
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Speaker 2: hear someone who thinks a little different than you.
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Speaker 1: You know, I don't even I be trying to even
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Speaker 1: bring up shit. I got to even like have a
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Speaker 1: different opinion on the fuck fuck you.
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Speaker 2: Okay, real man anyway, shit, Now that hod is over,
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Speaker 2: a lot of us have hovid you know, like just
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Speaker 2: that what it was called, That's what I call it.
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Speaker 1: You like it interesting? Okay, let's go with it.
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Speaker 2: We uh was going through withdrawals from like the jay
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Speaker 2: Z Hotelo hoteler my hotel hotel about weekend in New York,
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Speaker 2: and we go on talk We're talking to jay Z today, right.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're talking jay Z and if not capitalism, what's
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Speaker 1: your niggas really want?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's get into that. What's all I want?
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Speaker 1: We'll be very back. I want to talk about the
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Speaker 1: controversy where jay Z and Target deals, Like we kind
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Speaker 1: of mentioned it a couple of weeks ago when when
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Speaker 1: you were talking about being at the concert and the ship. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and you know the unspoken uh responsibility, right, our millionaires
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Speaker 1: and billionaires supposedly have to the black community just because
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Speaker 1: you know, black people, we we just at the bottom
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Speaker 1: of the totem pole, right, and until we do uh
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Speaker 1: collectively have like a mind shift, uh complete Yes this
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Speaker 1: this we're going to be. Yeah. I don't accept that
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Speaker 1: particular positioning. I don't accept it at all. And you
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Speaker 1: know what we're looking at is capitalism, right, I think
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Speaker 1: it was Mandy what's about her new podcast name Many
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Speaker 1: from Decisions Decisions? She has another podcast, and I forgot
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Speaker 1: the guests that are on but they were talking about
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Speaker 1: the jay Z controversy, and you know, I guess they
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Speaker 1: weren't purchasing JAZ tickets and shit like that. I know
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Speaker 1: you went to the concert an employee, a partner of
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Speaker 1: rock Nation, but I just want to know, you know,
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Speaker 1: if not capitalism, then what you know what I'm saying,
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Speaker 1: because all different types of economies, whether you're talking about socialism, communism,
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Speaker 1: you know you're thinking about the Russians and the Germans,
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Speaker 1: Yeah that's where we're at for real, okay, or socialism,
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Speaker 1: they all have their pros and cons. For me, I
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Speaker 1: won't say I'm a capitalist per se, but I like
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Speaker 1: the free markets and I like to have the same
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Speaker 1: opportunity as everyone else to make money, to create something
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Speaker 1: spectacular and have people buy into my idea and be
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Speaker 1: able to fucking feed my family. I think it's because
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Speaker 1: we're at the bottom of this system why people hate
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Speaker 1: it so much. But if the roles were reverse, if
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Speaker 1: we were the ones in power and we were the
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Speaker 1: ones creating all the things, because really, if you think
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Speaker 1: about it, we are the ones that have always created
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Speaker 1: all the things. But then but then we don't know
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Speaker 1: the science of business, right, and we end up losing
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Speaker 1: ideas to these billionaires, because just because somebody is rich,
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Speaker 1: that doesn't make them smart.
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Speaker 2: I don't feel like it's fair to say that we
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Speaker 2: don't know the science of business, because it's been proven
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Speaker 2: that there were black community that were thriving absolutely with
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Speaker 2: hospitals and schools, and they.
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Speaker 1: Were I'm talking about us now. Yeah, but we've lost
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Speaker 1: a lot of.
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Speaker 2: Things because they every time we build it, they come
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Speaker 2: they destroy it.
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Speaker 1: So you know, and I think now they may not
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Speaker 1: destroy it in that sense, they just give you an
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Speaker 1: offer you can't refuse.
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Speaker 2: Right because they want in a barrel. And when we
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Speaker 2: do come together and unify and find a way to
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Speaker 2: destroy it, so then we're all trying to just save ourselves.
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Speaker 1: I don't think that no one has ever been able
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Speaker 1: to do anything to the Black community without assistance from
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Speaker 1: somebody within the black community, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: So we sometimes we gotta we gotta look, I mean, shit, we.
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Speaker 2: Can go Black Wall Street. Do you think it was
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Speaker 2: a black person helping them burn down the communities they
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Speaker 2: were dropping?
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Speaker 1: Not not not in that was more direct disrespect, right,
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Speaker 1: But we know all our great some of our great
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Speaker 1: leaders been infiltrated or positioned, you know, somewhere somebody was positioned,
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Speaker 1: a judas was positioned somewhere to infiltrate. Those things happened, right,
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Speaker 1: So we're not solid amongst each other. That's why somebody
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Speaker 1: can always come in and do something to us. And
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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm thinking back even further before the people
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Speaker 1: showed up on the shores, everybody looking like us, and
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Speaker 1: then these pale faces showed up, and our ancestors was
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Speaker 1: probably like, oh, we ain't fucking with y'all. So they
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Speaker 1: went to Europe and they came back with our cousins
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Speaker 1: from Germany that looked like us, and we invited them
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Speaker 1: in because that's just the people we are, and we
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Speaker 1: got infiltrated. We lost the war several times. Right, But
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Speaker 1: that's neither hand nor Dan. But the controversy with jay
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Speaker 1: Z again this is stop the cap Do we really
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Speaker 1: hate the system or we just hate our position in
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Speaker 1: the system. I mean, since everybody hates capitalism, I want
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Speaker 1: to talk about what's the alternatives to capitalism. So let's
20:57
Speaker 1: start with the definition first of what capitalists and is
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Speaker 1: individuals owned businesses supposedly allegedly right, competition drives business people
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Speaker 1: can become very wealthy. You can also become very poor.
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Speaker 1: You might you start a business and it doesn't do
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Speaker 1: it as successful as you would like it to. And
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Speaker 1: then I mean that is you have the opportunity to
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Speaker 1: grow something. Yeah, market forces largely determined prices, right, so
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Speaker 1: supply demand, the people want the thing, we can give it. Yes,
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Speaker 1: perfect example, Pinky, what's the burger place that she had,
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Speaker 1: Floody Vegan. Yeah, So like she's all in the news
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Speaker 1: right now because her to the naked eye and to
21:45
Speaker 1: people who don't know business and in the broadest term
21:49
Speaker 1: possible records. I'm not trying to say people just stupid
21:51
Speaker 1: and don't know things, but her filing bankruptcy. Business businesses
21:56
Speaker 1: do that ship all the time, so they don't have
21:58
Speaker 1: to pay that corporation do Actually, we had a whole
22:01
Speaker 1: big bailout of banks and mortgage companies and all that shit.
22:05
Speaker 1: This is one one black woman, a small business. With
22:07
Speaker 1: the way other black people are trying to tear her
22:10
Speaker 1: down as if she wasn't successful she was.
22:13
Speaker 2: What about Uncle Nears the ship that's going on with them?
22:18
Speaker 1: You know, I started following that sum To me, it's
22:21
Speaker 1: a blend of bad business decisions, greed, yes, and then
22:29
Speaker 1: now you're trying to get the community to also then
22:31
Speaker 1: buy in to this thing also, So I need to
22:35
Speaker 1: see I need to see your portfolio, I need to
22:36
Speaker 1: see your financial statements. I need to see your fucking
22:39
Speaker 1: bottom line because you got a million dollar loans hair
22:42
Speaker 1: all type of shit going on.
22:43
Speaker 2: But from what I understand, the couple you know that
22:48
Speaker 2: actually started Uncle Nerss basically got fucked over by their
22:52
Speaker 2: financial advisor.
22:54
Speaker 1: Yeah, and who the financial advisor usually is attorney attorney
23:01
Speaker 1: usually what Ganye West said, why we on own none
23:03
Speaker 1: of y'all shit, But they will bamboozle you out of
23:06
Speaker 1: your business if you're not careful. And I think that
23:09
Speaker 1: that's another problem. Right, It's just so many things.
23:13
Speaker 2: It's so many things, and it just feels like we're
23:16
Speaker 2: always behind enemy lines.
23:19
Speaker 1: But even when dealing with each other, I can say,
23:22
Speaker 1: doing business sometimes with black people is very challenging, right,
23:27
Speaker 1: you know, getting people to do things on time is
23:31
Speaker 1: like one of my you know what I'm saying. And
23:33
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's because maybe we have a
23:34
Speaker 1: higher expectation from black people, because I mean, other people
23:39
Speaker 1: be doing on the same bullshit sometimes, but sometimes the
23:41
Speaker 1: professionalism is just not there with certain things. And it's
23:45
Speaker 1: almost like black people make you feel like they're doing
23:47
Speaker 1: you a fucking favor. I'm paying you even with this podcast,
23:51
Speaker 1: like finding people to show up on time, Like I
23:54
Speaker 1: think we've had some really great, great, luckily right photographers,
23:58
Speaker 1: but like to do all the other things, it's hard.
24:01
Speaker 1: It's hard to find good help, paid help at that.
24:05
Speaker 2: Even when you're paying, it's still hard.
24:07
Speaker 1: Yeah. So okay, So that's a capitalism the definition of
24:11
Speaker 1: socialism because I mean I think that maybe the last
24:14
Speaker 1: couple of elections it really was capitalism versus socialism. You
24:17
Speaker 1: had Bertie Sanders versus whoever else, and to me, he
24:20
Speaker 1: was more so for socialism. Everybody get a house, a car,
24:24
Speaker 1: a job, and twenty dollars. I don't want that. So
24:27
Speaker 1: the definition is private businesses usually exists, but government plays
24:31
Speaker 1: a larger role.
24:32
Speaker 2: Is there any way we could like blend the two.
24:35
Speaker 2: Is it not possible to like have a way that
24:38
Speaker 2: because everybody does deserve a house, Like it shouldn't be
24:41
Speaker 2: like because all right, right now in the United States,
24:44
Speaker 2: the wealth gap is just growing and growing. People are
24:47
Speaker 2: getting richer, any people are getting poor, and then now
24:50
Speaker 2: as they're playing monopoly with the housing market, they're buying
24:53
Speaker 2: up all the houses, all the land, and it's making
24:55
Speaker 2: it impossible for this.
24:56
Speaker 1: It's really like Monopoly. Yeah, do we have an episode
24:59
Speaker 1: or that Monopoly game? No, I feel like we did.
25:03
Speaker 2: We don't have so many now.
25:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, that shit was based on like the monopoly gaff
25:06
Speaker 1: but got the woman who created it and then who
25:08
Speaker 1: was purchased by. But it is based on capitalism for sure.
25:14
Speaker 2: And now you know, the average American can't buy a.
25:16
Speaker 1: Home absolutely like where the area I live in in Charleston,
25:19
Speaker 1: West actually, like the average house right now is five
25:22
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars, So imagine the twenty percent down payment
25:26
Speaker 1: on that night of Granted you can still get like
25:27
Speaker 1: a first time homeowner's little deal or whatever, but it's
25:31
Speaker 1: still much harder than just twenty twenty five, twenty twenty
25:34
Speaker 1: four two.
25:35
Speaker 2: At nineteen eighty, when your mama was buying.
25:38
Speaker 1: House fifty thousand. Yeah, my mama house is fifty thousand
25:41
Speaker 1: dollars and now today is worth five hundred and something thousand.
25:45
Speaker 1: So home ownership is definitely the way to financial freedom,
25:51
Speaker 1: and I think that is why they are trying to
25:53
Speaker 1: take away. They do not want us owning anything.
25:57
Speaker 2: They want us to continuously pay. And that just brings
26:00
Speaker 2: me to my you know, the conversation about techno feudalism,
26:05
Speaker 2: and like Charlamayn had me down a rabbit hole, like
26:08
Speaker 2: deep in a rabbit hole about like how you're Elon
26:12
Speaker 2: Musk and you're Jeff Bezos and people of that nature.
26:16
Speaker 2: They really running shit.
26:18
Speaker 1: But we even though they don't just what could we do?
26:22
Speaker 1: Don't buy into it. We always have. How how do
26:24
Speaker 1: you not you don't have to purchase a tesla? I
26:27
Speaker 1: remember in elementary school. Now granted, in elementary they said
26:31
Speaker 1: that we would have electric cars by the time we
26:33
Speaker 1: got old enough to drive. They replaced it with a
26:35
Speaker 1: fucking hummer and then we were paying how much for
26:38
Speaker 1: gas and stuff like that. Now I'm not saying that
26:41
Speaker 1: electric cars shouldn't exist, but they were trying to pass
26:43
Speaker 1: a mandate to where it's only electric cars. Imagine how
26:46
Speaker 1: much more power that would give Elon Musk. The government
26:49
Speaker 1: pushed against that right, so we that doesn't even make sense.
26:52
Speaker 1: When you have a zombie apocalypse. My car can only
26:55
Speaker 1: go four hundred miles, I gotta stop and plug it
26:56
Speaker 1: up the fuck. No, I need a gas car.
26:59
Speaker 2: I don't want to like driving the iPhone to me.
27:03
Speaker 2: I just don't.
27:04
Speaker 1: And that movie leave the world behind. How all the
27:07
Speaker 1: teslas started driving themselves and piling up on the interstates
27:09
Speaker 1: so people couldn't get out of their towns. I believe
27:12
Speaker 1: that could happen. So no, I don't want know all
27:15
Speaker 1: electric car. But we bought into these ideas.
27:17
Speaker 2: But just like Elon Muss, it's all these platforms that
27:22
Speaker 2: you're like using them, and like jay Z, let's take
27:27
Speaker 2: it back to jay Z. He like if he wanted
27:30
Speaker 2: to advance, sell his where he gonna sell it?
27:33
Speaker 1: Exactly. Ain't no black mama, pops. We don't have a
27:36
Speaker 1: black Target. There's not a black Walmart.
27:38
Speaker 2: There's nowhere to do it.
27:39
Speaker 1: And I've said this before about the the the boycott
27:43
Speaker 1: of Target, same thing with the NFL with Colin Kaepernick.
27:46
Speaker 1: There are other black football players, there are black people
27:49
Speaker 1: that work at Target. Black black people are still employed
27:52
Speaker 1: by Target. The reason why people started boycotting Target is
27:55
Speaker 1: because the DEI stuff, which if you actually go look
27:58
Speaker 1: into what DEI was, it wasn't benefit in your black ass,
28:02
Speaker 1: so exactly, and gay so now you we we without
28:07
Speaker 1: knowing about these things. Where boycotting when this this thing right?
28:12
Speaker 1: How can we exist in this system without these things?
28:17
Speaker 1: During COVID, the only stories that was open was Walmart.
28:19
Speaker 1: They closing all the botmom pops you can't open, but
28:22
Speaker 1: all the big corporations got to stay open. And if
28:24
Speaker 1: you go look at these people financial statements, just go
28:26
Speaker 1: to Yahoo, y'allho money, They're all yeah, Y'ALLHO finds. They're
28:31
Speaker 1: all owned by the same top three companies, JP, Morgan, Shades, Vanguard,
28:36
Speaker 1: and black Rock. So even if you don't shot up
28:38
Speaker 1: at one, you're still supporting, Yeah, the big the machine,
28:44
Speaker 1: you still supporting. And it's all run by these big oligarchies,
28:48
Speaker 1: like these big ass fucking families. There's no way around
28:51
Speaker 1: it unless you want to overthrow the whole system. But
28:53
Speaker 1: I just don't think today's humans are capable of governing themselves,
28:59
Speaker 1: because that's we would have to be.
29:01
Speaker 2: In order to do that, we would have to all
29:04
Speaker 2: of us would have to sacrifice in a way that
29:06
Speaker 2: might not we might not even be able to survive,
29:09
Speaker 2: you know, literally. So it's just like, well, I.
29:11
Speaker 1: Mean, I could I have went without and I think
29:14
Speaker 1: that you know, COVID. A lot of people they it
29:18
Speaker 1: was a shock to them. They were afraid to lose
29:20
Speaker 1: their jobs. So you allow man. You put your trust
29:23
Speaker 1: in man and got the shot and all that shit
29:25
Speaker 1: instead of trusting in God.
29:26
Speaker 2: If you did you go without because you kept with
29:29
Speaker 2: on the whole time.
29:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I stalk up on weve. You know how
29:32
Speaker 1: many closures I got at home now? And bitch, every
29:35
Speaker 1: time I get my closures from China and my hair
29:38
Speaker 1: from India, but I'd be buying shit and bulk just
29:41
Speaker 1: in case because now in the terriffs now everybody's went
29:43
Speaker 1: up on prices. But bitch, I got about twenty wigs
29:46
Speaker 1: worth of closures right now, and I can reuse my button.
29:50
Speaker 2: But what were your sacrifice? Because you never look bad?
29:53
Speaker 1: They like, But I do my own maintenance. You know
29:57
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I don't. I don't depend on like
29:58
Speaker 1: nail shops and all that shit, like I never. I
30:01
Speaker 1: do live a real like a minimallest sort of life
30:05
Speaker 1: are real. And when I'm talking about just like steady income,
30:09
Speaker 1: that's a sacrifice. Like people who are afraid to not
30:11
Speaker 1: have steady income, so they sacrifice their lives essentially for
30:15
Speaker 1: it because we don't know what this thing that they
30:17
Speaker 1: did to us a few years ago.
30:20
Speaker 2: Two sets of little eyes looking up at you every day,
30:23
Speaker 2: requiring you to God.
30:25
Speaker 1: You know, this is why I'd be saying, I get quiet.
30:27
Speaker 1: I've been more like, aside from this podcast, I be
30:30
Speaker 1: quiet a lot because you can't hear God when it's
30:33
Speaker 1: a lot of noise, so you gotta be quiet and listen.
30:37
Speaker 1: And I think that that stop putting your faith in man.
30:40
Speaker 1: Like we are so upset collectively at jay Z for
30:46
Speaker 1: having me either, I said collectively, right, so you know
30:49
Speaker 1: that's not everybody, but the collective is feeling some type
30:53
Speaker 1: of way about jay Z. But to me, it's an inspiration,
30:56
Speaker 1: right because the more resources I get that means I
30:59
Speaker 1: have helped people with nothing. I mean, I don't got shit,
31:02
Speaker 1: and I'm giving person somebody piece of the shit that
31:04
Speaker 1: I don't got. So imagine if I did have access
31:07
Speaker 1: to the resources to help my community. Now, I think
31:09
Speaker 1: what black people always want to see is somebody out loud.
31:13
Speaker 1: You know, everything on the internet, and jay Z is
31:15
Speaker 1: pretty private him and Beyonce, but he does a lot. Yep,
31:18
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, right, so now they are they
31:22
Speaker 1: He's like the face of capitalism for black people, right.
31:25
Speaker 1: But again that everybody has an opportunity to be a
31:28
Speaker 1: jay z. We bought into the idea of jay Z.
31:31
Speaker 1: We put him up there for whatever reason. Black people,
31:34
Speaker 1: they want to humble you and bring you back to
31:37
Speaker 1: the level at some point, like why why you know,
31:41
Speaker 1: make another billionaire another everybody should be. I always use
31:45
Speaker 1: Chlama because he's the best example, and I think he
31:47
Speaker 1: might be a billionaire at some point in our lifetime
31:50
Speaker 1: for real. But I know he employs a lot of
31:52
Speaker 1: black people. I know it's specifically black women, right because
31:57
Speaker 1: if you want a good nation, you got you gotta
32:00
Speaker 1: lift the women for sure. So that is more so
32:03
Speaker 1: how I judge a person. What are you doing with this.
32:08
Speaker 2: Running your mouth on the internet?
32:10
Speaker 1: Right? Yeah, because just like I saw a little Duval
32:13
Speaker 1: and we know low Duval does a lot of a
32:15
Speaker 1: lot in the community, and he probably publicized a lot
32:17
Speaker 1: of it, like it's Duval Day. A major economy generator
32:21
Speaker 1: for Jacksonville. Okay, he does that annually and the shit
32:25
Speaker 1: is lit. He has a bunch of vendors out there, people,
32:28
Speaker 1: you know, people spending money buying shit like he's generating
32:32
Speaker 1: a lot of money for the economy every year and
32:37
Speaker 1: he publicizes it. But then people still acting like you're
32:40
Speaker 1: not doing enough. But what are you doing every day
32:42
Speaker 1: regular person at home who works, What are you doing?
32:45
Speaker 1: Because you can still do something too, right, That's what.
32:47
Speaker 2: I'm saying besides talking shit.
32:49
Speaker 1: Yeah, because all y'all doing is hating on the millionaires.
32:52
Speaker 1: And I like to listen to Reverend Ike, and Reverend
32:55
Speaker 1: Ike said, if you curse the rich, you'll never be one.
33:00
Speaker 1: So everybody's aspiring to acquire these resources. Why are you
33:04
Speaker 1: hating when somebody actually does what extra do you think
33:09
Speaker 1: he should do?
33:10
Speaker 2: But I agree with you, but I do feel like
33:12
Speaker 2: people were because people were trying to come together to
33:17
Speaker 2: protect black rights. That was what they thought they were doing,
33:20
Speaker 2: you know, he thought, you know, because you know, if
33:24
Speaker 2: you look at it, we wasn't even benefiting necessarily from
33:27
Speaker 2: the DM.
33:28
Speaker 1: When did the boycotts start? And when did it finished?
33:30
Speaker 1: Is it ongoing right now? I just left Target. I
33:33
Speaker 1: went and got me some satin spray from my makeup.
33:35
Speaker 2: Listen, that's the thing. We are not organized or unified
33:39
Speaker 2: because no who fucking.
33:41
Speaker 1: Else they lost a lot of money though Target, Target
33:43
Speaker 1: was her They did.
33:43
Speaker 2: Take an L. They took a huge L.
33:46
Speaker 1: And there are black people can still work there. No
33:50
Speaker 1: black person stopped working at Target.
33:52
Speaker 2: Because they're supposed to do.
33:53
Speaker 1: You know, if de EI was a real thing and
33:56
Speaker 1: was actually affecting, why are the black people still working
33:58
Speaker 1: at Target? They like based on that, Yeah, they would
34:02
Speaker 1: not have been even getting hired.
34:04
Speaker 2: But what I'm thinking is it is it like corporate
34:08
Speaker 2: level yes, positions, Yes they're talking about yes, not necessarily
34:12
Speaker 2: the cashier and.
34:12
Speaker 1: Then yes, so yes, now that is where and I
34:17
Speaker 1: can attest to that shit, you know what I'm saying. Like,
34:19
Speaker 1: just last week we had the whole episode about Workday,
34:23
Speaker 1: or not a whole episode, but and sins. We talked
34:27
Speaker 1: about Workday and how it was systematically throwing out applications
34:32
Speaker 1: based on race, age, sex and all that shit. Right,
34:36
Speaker 1: if you put in there we need twenty white people
34:38
Speaker 1: and know black like, you could actually program the thing
34:42
Speaker 1: to do that. So, yes, there are those things exist,
34:46
Speaker 1: those things that those those mechanisms just getting easier to
34:49
Speaker 1: discriminate secretly, covertly. But this shit ain't new, you know
34:54
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, It's not new and that is why
34:56
Speaker 1: we need to create even more. We cannot playing about
35:00
Speaker 1: jay Z having his thirtieth year album, thirty year album, right,
35:03
Speaker 1: thirty year and target when we don't have a target
35:07
Speaker 1: like place.
35:08
Speaker 2: In it to sell it.
35:10
Speaker 1: Was he supposed to open the store for you niggas
35:12
Speaker 1: to be happy like I just be wanting to know,
35:14
Speaker 1: like we didn't get through the definitions of socialism socialism
35:21
Speaker 1: private businesses usually exists, but government plays a larger role
35:24
Speaker 1: and provides broader public services. Competition exists, but is balanced
35:29
Speaker 1: with stronger social programs. Wealth differences are generally reduced through
35:34
Speaker 1: taxes and public benefits. Markets often operate alongside government regulation,
35:40
Speaker 1: so socialism sounds like a look a combination kind of communism.
35:45
Speaker 1: Major industries and resources are collectively or state owned. Production
35:51
Speaker 1: is directed correct excuse me, Production is directed collectively or
35:56
Speaker 1: the state rather than excuse me, or by the state,
35:59
Speaker 1: rather than through market competition. The goal is to greatly
36:03
Speaker 1: reduce or eliminate large wealth differences. The government or central
36:08
Speaker 1: planners often determine production and pricing. The problem with that
36:13
Speaker 1: is that you still always end up on all of
36:15
Speaker 1: these the cons for all of these that one percent
36:18
Speaker 1: at the top. Who's actually controlling shit US as corporations? Right,
36:22
Speaker 1: Socialism might be socialism and communism as families. Oftentimes, I
36:26
Speaker 1: feel like the whole world ran by a couple of families.
36:29
Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of research out there that
36:32
Speaker 1: suggests that. So we there's the idea that there's these
36:35
Speaker 1: different types of economies, these different type of governments, and
36:40
Speaker 1: really it's all the same shit. So there's a false
36:44
Speaker 1: sense of freedom exactly. So I just want to comfortably
36:49
Speaker 1: get fucked.
36:51
Speaker 2: You know, I agree and disagree in ways. But you know,
36:57
Speaker 2: I was living in the UK, where their healthcare is free.
37:02
Speaker 2: I'm like, wow, America deserves free healthcare. I was. I
37:05
Speaker 2: was like, this is excellent.
37:06
Speaker 1: Get I was like a good, Like they just gave
37:13
Speaker 1: me like right, like it's enough calories?
37:15
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, cereal every morning. That's every like, because I
37:18
Speaker 2: was in the hospital for two weeks and it was
37:21
Speaker 2: just like whatever not not Rice Criss be treated. It's
37:24
Speaker 2: just like whatever the fuck that is with some watermilk
37:27
Speaker 2: on it. I was like, oh this shit feel free.
37:30
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Like if tomorrow, right, you woke
37:35
Speaker 1: up and everybody in America made exactly one hundred thousand
37:38
Speaker 1: dollars a year they didn't earn it. Does everybody get
37:42
Speaker 1: the same money? Even if you were a fucking doctor?
37:46
Speaker 1: How would you feel about that? Because that is what
37:50
Speaker 1: socialism is essentially house car job twenty dollars.
37:57
Speaker 2: I don't hate it and I don't love it at
37:59
Speaker 2: the same time because the reason why, I just feel
38:03
Speaker 2: like they hate us. I don't even know if they
38:05
Speaker 2: really hate us. They just need a bottom, you know.
38:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, because that's how capitalism, that's the problem.
38:11
Speaker 2: Where they lie. Where do they fall in this hierarchy
38:14
Speaker 2: of things? And if they put us at the bottom,
38:16
Speaker 2: they can make sure they can figure out where they fall.
38:18
Speaker 2: So I do understand. I like it in a way
38:21
Speaker 2: that how do you determine at the bottom? If we're
38:24
Speaker 2: all equal, you know, then you can't put us at
38:27
Speaker 2: the bottom, if we're the same. So I can respect
38:29
Speaker 2: that sentiment, But then there's nowhere to grow. How do
38:34
Speaker 2: you grow?
38:40
Speaker 1: Are we being I'm talking about today? Right, we understand
38:44
Speaker 1: what happened in the past, But today are we being
38:48
Speaker 1: put at the bottom? Are we choosing to be at
38:50
Speaker 1: the bottom? Through our through our daily the things that
38:55
Speaker 1: you know, we we find important? Right, just through our
39:01
Speaker 1: daily living.
39:03
Speaker 2: I don't think we are choosing it. I don't think
39:05
Speaker 2: we're choosing it. I think all these systems are set
39:08
Speaker 2: up for us to be at the bottom. They're even
39:11
Speaker 2: preparing the future for this. They're taking books out of schools,
39:16
Speaker 2: they're taking things that represent us. They taking the heroes,
39:20
Speaker 2: the black heroes, out of the archives, just completely erasing
39:24
Speaker 2: these people from the stories so we don't know about them,
39:27
Speaker 2: so we can forget our greatness because they want us
39:30
Speaker 2: to be at the bottom.
39:31
Speaker 1: And it's always been our responsibility right as a people,
39:34
Speaker 1: as a culture, to make sure that all people know
39:37
Speaker 1: what time it is. I have multiple flask drives with
39:40
Speaker 1: thousands of books on them. During COVID. If you go
39:43
Speaker 1: to it's like I forgot to nate the websites and
39:46
Speaker 1: any of the websites where you can go download book PDFs.
39:50
Speaker 1: If you go to them now, they all got a
39:51
Speaker 1: government fucking label on it, Like you can't there's the
39:56
Speaker 1: websites are no longer accessible. But I spent COVID now
40:00
Speaker 1: unloading shit. You remember the lady who was recording the
40:02
Speaker 1: news and shit like that. You gotta think ahead because
40:05
Speaker 1: these people have always been trying to do shit to
40:08
Speaker 1: fucking trip us up. My kid's gonna know what time
40:10
Speaker 1: it is, my kid, right right?
40:13
Speaker 2: But your kid? But what about all the kids?
40:15
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. We be focusing on the wrong
40:17
Speaker 1: shit spending, like all the entertainment, like if everybody had
40:21
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say if everybody had my mind because
40:23
Speaker 1: I sound crazy to a lot of people who just
40:26
Speaker 1: but this is what's necessary, you see what I'm saying,
40:29
Speaker 1: And this is why I want to have this platform
40:31
Speaker 1: to put them plant those thoughts, because that you need
40:34
Speaker 1: more people talking like that. You need more people to
40:37
Speaker 1: make people think a little bit differently.
40:39
Speaker 2: There's this a documentary that came out I think it's
40:41
Speaker 2: yes out already, and it's called The Librarian, and it's
40:45
Speaker 2: about they locking up the librarians for trying to keep
40:49
Speaker 2: the books in the library. Can you imagine that in
40:52
Speaker 2: the United States? Dates locking up the suite librarian. I
40:58
Speaker 2: see that lady, the old black lady.
41:00
Speaker 1: What's it called the Librarian? It's a documentary.
41:02
Speaker 2: It's a documentary right now because they want the books,
41:05
Speaker 2: because they want the fucking books and the libraries I'm
41:07
Speaker 2: not taking off the shelf, and.
41:09
Speaker 1: They locking these bitches up.
41:11
Speaker 2: Yeah, because man, it's crazy.
41:14
Speaker 1: Anytime I go to like I like to go to
41:18
Speaker 1: like it's State sales and stuff like that, and I'm
41:20
Speaker 1: always looking for old ass books. I got an old
41:22
Speaker 1: ass book on motherfucking on the Holocaust like books oftentimes
41:29
Speaker 1: the truth, these old ass books, the truth be in
41:31
Speaker 1: there right now with AI people. Depending on chat Ebt,
41:35
Speaker 1: they get to put whatever narrative they want to, let
41:37
Speaker 1: people take it as as gable. Yes, and it's just not.
41:41
Speaker 1: It's still a man behind that bullshit.
41:43
Speaker 2: I just want to make sure that I'm I'm quoting
41:45
Speaker 2: that right because what the librarian what it's called. Yeah,
41:48
Speaker 2: because I don't want to be telling y'all something. Y'all
41:50
Speaker 2: go looking it up.
41:53
Speaker 1: He was talking about.
41:55
Speaker 2: It's called.
41:57
Speaker 1: Oh, but when you were saying the librarians, when you
42:00
Speaker 1: were talking about us being at the bottom. For capitalism
42:03
Speaker 1: to work, there has to be consumers. And the truth
42:05
Speaker 1: is black people are the number one consumers black women
42:08
Speaker 1: women's period, but black women in particular are the number
42:12
Speaker 1: one consumers in America. Yes, in this capitalistic society, black
42:17
Speaker 1: people consume the most Black women consume even more. Right,
42:22
Speaker 1: we have to change our spending habits and what we
42:24
Speaker 1: spend money on that that has nothing to do with
42:27
Speaker 1: anybody else. Even if they market this stuff does we
42:30
Speaker 1: don't have to purchase it. We don't have to engage,
42:33
Speaker 1: but we do because we like things. We like stuff.
42:36
Speaker 1: We like shiny shit because that's just always that's where
42:38
Speaker 1: we come from. Yeah, so they know how to fuck
42:42
Speaker 1: with us. They know how to market to us and
42:45
Speaker 1: any if you're interested. Tavistock Institute. It's a whole built
42:51
Speaker 1: item people, a whole program on how to market to
42:55
Speaker 1: the Negro, not just us, but yeah, how to market
42:58
Speaker 1: to us. We like flash she shiit. We like ship,
43:01
Speaker 1: we like big ship, like they know how to get it.
43:04
Speaker 2: Makes me think about the clone Tyrone.
43:07
Speaker 1: Yes, I can't believe they even allowed they clone Tyrone
43:11
Speaker 1: on TV. And I couldn't not when I saw the
43:14
Speaker 1: preview for that ship, I'm like, oh, I can't wait.
43:17
Speaker 1: It's so much disclosure and they cloned Tyrone. That people
43:20
Speaker 1: just straight up I think a lot of people they
43:23
Speaker 1: think it's fiction. Whole summer we was fighting about chicken
43:29
Speaker 1: sandwiches at Popeyes. That is a real thing that was
43:31
Speaker 1: happening in order to change our vibration. You gotta change
43:35
Speaker 1: the music.
43:36
Speaker 2: People was coming with their own bread because they had
43:38
Speaker 2: ran out. They was coming to the store with a
43:40
Speaker 2: bag of bread, like.
43:41
Speaker 1: Just give me the just give me the chicken.
43:43
Speaker 2: Break. I was like, this is.
43:44
Speaker 1: Inan what'sn't that chicken?
43:47
Speaker 2: The picture with viral?
43:48
Speaker 1: She was working break.
43:51
Speaker 2: I was like, what the fuck is happening?
43:54
Speaker 1: And you know, I be and that's why I be
43:56
Speaker 1: quiet and listen to God, and I'm thankful for my diet.
43:58
Speaker 1: And I have to go through that chicken. I don't
44:02
Speaker 1: know what the fucking don't give a god damn with
44:04
Speaker 1: that chick.
44:06
Speaker 2: I didn't get in no fight that deep.
44:09
Speaker 1: Was it that spectacular?
44:09
Speaker 2: What it takes you like a chicken sandwich?
44:11
Speaker 1: You know, imagine niggas was lined up like it had
44:15
Speaker 1: to be something. It may not be all of them,
44:17
Speaker 1: just like the COVID shot. It may not have been
44:19
Speaker 1: like something in all of them. Some of them could
44:21
Speaker 1: have been a placebo. But there was some ship in
44:24
Speaker 1: that chicken that made niggas fight in line for it
44:27
Speaker 1: and and lines out to the street for it. And
44:30
Speaker 1: nobody thought that is heavily like social engineering. They told
44:34
Speaker 1: you to go get that chicken and if they can
44:35
Speaker 1: do that, they could do anything to us. Put it
44:39
Speaker 1: in a chicken sandwich advertisements.
44:43
Speaker 2: You can mention some ship and then all of a
44:46
Speaker 2: sudden you just keep seeing the deep seeing.
44:49
Speaker 1: Because when we when you download any app, they're asking
44:52
Speaker 1: you for controls, right, they want to control to you.
44:54
Speaker 1: They want controls for your mic, the camera location. You
44:57
Speaker 1: don't have to enable those things, but we just be
44:58
Speaker 1: clicking acknowledged and go on bitch. I literally this is
45:02
Speaker 1: what I used chat GPT for. I will copy and
45:04
Speaker 1: paste out whole shit and act shatgypt to pull out
45:08
Speaker 1: the most important details of it. If you don't want
45:12
Speaker 1: to read the whole thing, that's a good way to
45:15
Speaker 1: use shat GPT to make sure you're not signed up
45:17
Speaker 1: for bullshit. I seen an episode on episode I saw
45:20
Speaker 1: a post on Instagram one day where this guy he
45:23
Speaker 1: got into a car accident and it was some weird shit.
45:27
Speaker 1: It was a car accident, he got into some shit
45:29
Speaker 1: in the store slip and fall. It was something weird
45:32
Speaker 1: and it wasn't a Netflix disclaimer or some TV disclaimer
45:36
Speaker 1: where he opted out of That's like, imagine that some
45:41
Speaker 1: shit that came up on your TV is now affecting
45:43
Speaker 1: a lawsuit by some shit that don't have nothing to
45:45
Speaker 1: do with TV because you don't know what the fuck
45:47
Speaker 1: you're signing or what you're clicking on.
45:49
Speaker 2: That's like that episode of Black Mirror Joan is awful,
45:54
Speaker 2: and it was like you click to like watch this
45:57
Speaker 2: platform like Netflix. It was essentially and basically, by agreeing
46:03
Speaker 2: to the user agreement, you agree to be filmed and
46:06
Speaker 2: they could use your life for the story.
46:08
Speaker 1: That is what they've done with AI. They have been
46:10
Speaker 1: using our voices, our likeness, all this shit like Nnigali's
46:15
Speaker 1: AI artists. I suggest, highly suggest black people to not
46:19
Speaker 1: don't don't send me no AI artists. I got friends
46:21
Speaker 1: who we swap music all the time. Bitch, if I
46:24
Speaker 1: go on, if I go on Apple Music and your music.
46:28
Speaker 1: This song just came out in twenty twenty six. There's
46:30
Speaker 1: no other songs by this artist, and there are no album.
46:33
Speaker 1: I know it's an AI artist.
46:35
Speaker 2: You go to news. What about a new artist.
46:37
Speaker 1: People, There's no such thing as a first song going viral.
46:42
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. The song went viral on TikTok
46:44
Speaker 1: while I'm even being scented, right, and then I go
46:47
Speaker 1: on Apple Music, and this person has no other content,
46:50
Speaker 1: and you go onto Instagram and just look like fake
46:53
Speaker 1: ass people. They are manufacturing soul, so now they're even
46:58
Speaker 1: trying to write us out of our own shit. They
47:01
Speaker 1: don't need us to even be the artists anymore. If
47:04
Speaker 1: I can create, I can recreate what souls.
47:10
Speaker 2: It's getting scary.
47:10
Speaker 1: Outside stay inside. I mean, I'm never scared of this shit.
47:15
Speaker 1: It is just it's just more so like I just
47:18
Speaker 1: like to be aware of stuff. I don't like let
47:19
Speaker 1: it put me in like a cuckoon, Like I'm not
47:22
Speaker 1: going outdoors anymore. It's just I'm not a conspiracy theorist.
47:25
Speaker 1: And now I just like to be aware so I
47:27
Speaker 1: can make the right consciousness. I can make informed decisions.
47:31
Speaker 1: That's what I like to be aware of. I don't
47:35
Speaker 1: know what the fuck's got to do with the jay
47:36
Speaker 1: Z shit. I just feel like I just I want
47:38
Speaker 1: black people to do absolutely nothing. But I just want
47:41
Speaker 1: black people to do like well right, And I just
47:45
Speaker 1: want a black millionaire or black billionaire to be the norm.
47:48
Speaker 1: Now me personally, I don't know too many people that
47:51
Speaker 1: can actually get to that level of that financial without
47:55
Speaker 1: having shitted on a lot of people in the path.
47:58
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, are stepped on a few people.
48:00
Speaker 2: I feel like most people who do make it that far,
48:04
Speaker 2: not all, but most had to leave a lot.
48:08
Speaker 1: Of ruin behind. Yeah, I think the only I mean
48:13
Speaker 1: for me, I don't.
48:13
Speaker 2: Even think anybody necessarily needs to be a billionaire.
48:17
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just to me, it is why do you
48:19
Speaker 1: need that much money if you're not putting in it.
48:22
Speaker 1: That's why people have this expectation from billionaires, like, we've
48:27
Speaker 1: got you to this level, right, what are you now
48:31
Speaker 1: going to do for us? What are you doing? What
48:32
Speaker 1: are you putting back in the community. Did he revamp
48:35
Speaker 1: Marci projects?
48:36
Speaker 2: Well, some billionaires would would argue that they did that
48:40
Speaker 2: shit themselves, that they were not helped.
48:43
Speaker 1: No, it's impossible. The concert. Imagine if nobody showed up
48:47
Speaker 1: at this concert that he, you know, spent millions to plan,
48:50
Speaker 1: and nobody bought a ticket. Yeah, right, So they depend
48:53
Speaker 1: on the consumer right to consume their idea so that
48:58
Speaker 1: they can even you know, come this thing. And to me,
49:01
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say I'm a capitalist. I might be
49:03
Speaker 1: a little blend of all. I do feel like there
49:05
Speaker 1: has to be social programs to help people who because
49:08
Speaker 1: everybody don't have to wherewithal You know what, everybody is
49:12
Speaker 1: not a CEO, everybody's not a business owner. You have
49:15
Speaker 1: to have workers, right, You have to have people that
49:17
Speaker 1: do the low bottom tier type jobs also, right. But
49:21
Speaker 1: at least we live in a in an economy where
49:24
Speaker 1: if you tomorrow wake up and say I want to
49:27
Speaker 1: do fucking better, you got the opportunity to do so.
49:29
Speaker 1: It's not a government regulating how much money you can
49:33
Speaker 1: make and capping your shit. And it's just a few
49:35
Speaker 1: families that own the companies. That's you know that I'm saying.
49:39
Speaker 2: Now, see here, there are all systems in place to
49:43
Speaker 2: keep you there's like shit that's hidden in play building.
49:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta see the things, right, But I still
49:50
Speaker 1: feel like just the way the way Black people's soul
49:53
Speaker 1: and energy is like we just have always been able
49:55
Speaker 1: to maneuver through the fucking bullshit, Like we always find
49:59
Speaker 1: a way to slip. You're like, kill us exactly, Like,
50:03
Speaker 1: so why are we even worrying about what they're doing.
50:05
Speaker 1: We be up chilling and it's a whole machine trying
50:08
Speaker 1: to fuck niggas up, and we still be thriving regardless
50:11
Speaker 1: of what we're gonna overcome every time, every time, right,
50:15
Speaker 1: And this is why they're coming out with more creative ways,
50:17
Speaker 1: Like what the fuck? What's the bug ship? That's not
50:19
Speaker 1: not a new parasite? I got right now with the
50:23
Speaker 1: whole foods.
50:24
Speaker 2: You know, I had a salad over the whole time
50:31
Speaker 2: we've been here.
50:31
Speaker 1: You know, Niggas is on the Niggas is on the
50:34
Speaker 1: South soop bitter tick and uh no berries. Yes, and
50:41
Speaker 1: now that y'all, y'all fucking with the whole foods because
50:45
Speaker 1: we're not fucking with this food no more, because we
50:47
Speaker 1: know what it is when it ain't. America always been
50:50
Speaker 1: a project, though everything here is not like a lot
50:53
Speaker 1: of things. That's a lot in America and our products
50:55
Speaker 1: and our food, it's not a lot in other countries.
50:57
Speaker 1: I don't know what type economy that's called.
50:59
Speaker 2: Would like a new meat?
51:01
Speaker 1: Shut up? Wouldn't be meat?
51:06
Speaker 2: Why wouldn't it? It would aliens brought some new meat?
51:10
Speaker 1: What what the new meat be? An alien? It would
51:13
Speaker 1: be you have some of that alien.
51:16
Speaker 2: Zebra and deer mix together. I just want something different.
51:21
Speaker 1: We are herbivores. That's why we got these flat ass teeth.
51:24
Speaker 1: We ain't even supposed to.
51:25
Speaker 2: Be tearing the meat and ship on the corners barely.
51:29
Speaker 1: You think you gotta you don't got no fang my
51:31
Speaker 1: dentists and he drolled in one of mine down and
51:34
Speaker 1: yours flat to your fangs flat dogs, got a lot
51:38
Speaker 1: of sharp teeth, not just the fangs. So we're supposed
51:41
Speaker 1: to be eating mostly fucking.
51:43
Speaker 2: Vegetable fruits and vegetables and making this ship up.
51:47
Speaker 1: I mean that's a I mean, it's not a bad
51:48
Speaker 1: I need to shut more.
51:52
Speaker 2: What's your last last? Because we going off on the
51:55
Speaker 2: tagent and talking about my.
51:58
Speaker 1: Last last is don't be a hater? Stop the cap. Okay,
52:03
Speaker 1: we all have pull your bootstraps up now. I don't
52:07
Speaker 1: fully believe in that shit because we know the we
52:09
Speaker 1: know the things, the mechanisms, the machines exist to trip
52:12
Speaker 1: us up. That's not our focus, though. We focusing on
52:15
Speaker 1: the focus. Focus on your focus. Mind your motherfucking business.
52:20
Speaker 1: How about that, mind your business, minding business that pays
52:23
Speaker 1: you and you know hone in on that tunnel vision,
52:26
Speaker 1: were taking care of your family and I think everything
52:28
Speaker 1: else the fall in place.
52:30
Speaker 2: Am I tripping a little bit?
52:38
Speaker 1: Mind your motherfucking business?
52:39
Speaker 2: Like literally, because I agree with mind your business, but
52:43
Speaker 2: I also feel like we're all each other's businesses. Black people,
52:45
Speaker 2: we got to take care of each other.
52:46
Speaker 1: We're not a monolith though that's the problem, not in
52:48
Speaker 1: that way.
52:49
Speaker 2: But I mean, just love your brother, you know, stop
52:53
Speaker 2: treating your like when we see someone like you'll be
52:58
Speaker 2: seeing a nigga getting beat up and they'll just recorded.
53:00
Speaker 2: Everybody just recorded instead of helping be your brother's keeper
53:05
Speaker 2: in a way.
53:07
Speaker 1: No, yeah, I don't mind my business. I don't me neither.
53:11
Speaker 1: I told you how my neighbor was getting her ass
53:13
Speaker 1: beat and I knocked on that door like the police.
53:15
Speaker 1: Did I tell you about that? Oh, let me tell
53:17
Speaker 1: you about that ship right quick. And my neighbor, she
53:19
Speaker 1: happened to realize I do a podcast and live across
53:21
Speaker 1: the across away from her. She might this bitch works
53:24
Speaker 1: in the office. First of all, she just started working
53:26
Speaker 1: in when I went to Costa Rica for my birthday,
53:28
Speaker 1: I came back and somebody was then living across from me.
53:31
Speaker 1: This apartment was empty for a whole year. Girl, I'm watching, uh,
53:36
Speaker 1: I think I was watching from in my living room
53:38
Speaker 1: and I'm in the thumping moving around. I put my
53:41
Speaker 1: air to the because the walls are kind of thin.
53:43
Speaker 1: I put my ear stop leave me alone, like she's
53:46
Speaker 1: saying this shit. So I immediate, immediately go get my
53:48
Speaker 1: pistol because in my mind, y'all gonna shoot through the
53:51
Speaker 1: wall if something or that. I just need to be prepared.
53:53
Speaker 1: So then I go stand by my I opened my
53:56
Speaker 1: door and I stand at the door. So then I
53:57
Speaker 1: hear her then say, you're you know I'm pregnant. You're
54:02
Speaker 1: not happy I'm pregnant. Girl. When I heard that ship boom,
54:08
Speaker 1: I said, cut that ship out right now, I'm calling
54:10
Speaker 1: the police. Y'all can't live next to me. You. I
54:13
Speaker 1: cannot deal with hearing a woman getting her ass for
54:16
Speaker 1: I'm a fucker and die about this damn neighbor. That's
54:20
Speaker 1: I need her to move. No, I need her to
54:22
Speaker 1: move if you are a type of woman who get
54:24
Speaker 1: they ass because I can't listen to you get beat
54:26
Speaker 1: up next door. No, I agree with that, but I'm
54:29
Speaker 1: not gonna die about the neighbor. Right, I'm beating kill
54:32
Speaker 1: somebody about the neighbor like that, bitch. You can't be
54:36
Speaker 1: next door to me getting beat up, so I be
54:38
Speaker 1: seeing your nigga like he ain't at work, You at
54:40
Speaker 1: fucking work all day long, like he ain't doing enough
54:42
Speaker 1: for me. Y'all can't live next door to me, right,
54:46
Speaker 1: I'm in. I'm telling the neighbor business.
54:53
Speaker 2: Right, bitch, But be your brother's keeper. That was my
54:56
Speaker 2: last I'm not everybody's keeping to other. You know, we
54:59
Speaker 2: got each other more and support each other more. And
55:03
Speaker 2: you know, even jay Z, we gotta support.
55:05
Speaker 1: Him, yes so, because if you I mean, there's gonna
55:08
Speaker 1: be other jay Z's Rpefully, that's what we want.
55:11
Speaker 2: We want all of us to be jay Z.
55:13
Speaker 1: Is that not what we want? Yeah?
55:15
Speaker 2: We do all right?
55:17
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, anyway, if you guys enjoyed this episode, y'all,
55:20
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55:23
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55:25
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