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Mac & Bone Hour 2: UNC/NC State Expectations & Panthers Questions · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: We'll be right.
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  Speaker 2: Back.
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  Speaker 3: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ. Let's do it, baby. It is
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  Speaker 3: a week zero Friday, and we got local college football
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  Speaker 3: teams in action. This isn't just like your TCU-Iowa State
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  Speaker 3: game that you just watched just because it's on and
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  Speaker 3: it's week zero and you're dying for football. We've got
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  Speaker 3: vested interest. So many of you have vested interest tomorrow,
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  Speaker 3: whether you're a Heels fan and you're trying to figure
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  Speaker 3: out what Belichick can do for an encore this year
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  Speaker 3: or starting off against TCU tomorrow at noon, or whether
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  Speaker 3: it is the conference showdown in Charlottesville. First sellout for
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  Speaker 3: Virginia in 18 years in Charlottesville. They are amped after
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  Speaker 3: last year's 11-win season. And, of course, the Pack are
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  Speaker 3: in Charlottesville. So this is a juicy week zero for us.
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  Speaker 3: They are amped and old, a lot like the Mac
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  Speaker 3: and Bone Joe. Amped and old. Yeah, they got experience, man,
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  Speaker 3: in Virginia, especially that offensive line.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, two six years and two seven years and
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  Speaker 4: a fifth year are five of the guys.
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  Speaker 3: That's a major advantage. And the tight end of the
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  Speaker 3: fifth year. That's a major advantage. To have an experienced
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  Speaker 3: offensive line like that, that's the best part of their team,
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  Speaker 3: in my opinion, for Virginia.
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  Speaker 4: Even though he's not great, they also have an experienced
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  Speaker 4: quarterback as well back there. He's not exactly new to
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  Speaker 4: the college football scene.
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  Speaker 3: No, no. But I just think he is such a
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  Speaker 3: weakness for them. I could be proven wrong. Lord knows
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  Speaker 3: State's past defense was absolute dog-do last year. But I'm
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  Speaker 3: going to guess it's going to be better this year,
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  Speaker 3: and I don't think Bo Perbule is the guy to
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  Speaker 3: exploit it. But we'll talk specifically about that game coming
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  Speaker 3: up at 745, if you're a state fan or if
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  Speaker 3: you're just a college football fan and want to hear
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  Speaker 3: us talk about that matchup. We'll talk Carolina and TCU
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  Speaker 3: specifically as the show goes on. The fit dog has already,
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  Speaker 3: already called his shot that the Tar Heels shocked.
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  Speaker 4: The world bone in Dublin tomorrow. What could go wrong?
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  Speaker 4: Nothing could go wrong. Finney's supporting his team. You should fly.
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  Speaker 4: You should go from Cherokee Resort Casino today, take a
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  Speaker 4: flight via Aer Lingus, and get there for tomorrow's game.
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  Speaker 4: You feel like an Aer Lingus guy. I think he's
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  Speaker 4: more air dingus. I think that would be the airline
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  Speaker 4: he would fly. Fitty, we had a question the other
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  Speaker 4: day when you were touting the Heels to win the game.
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  Speaker 3: Somebody said, Fitty, I'm not being a jerk. They said,
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  Speaker 3: I just want to know the honest answer. You picking
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  Speaker 3: the Tar Heels, is that like the thing you did
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  Speaker 3: last year where you picked the Panthers in every game?
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  Speaker 3: Or do you really believe the Heels will win the game?
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  Speaker 2: No, Mac, I believe there's a path to Carolina winning
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  Speaker 2: tomorrow because when we get to the week, so let's
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  Speaker 2: say Notre Dame at Clemson at Miami, I'm not picking
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  Speaker 2: Carolina to win those games. As a matter of fact,
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  Speaker 2: I expect Carolina to get blown out in those matchups. Look,
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  Speaker 2: TCU's front's really good. You got some questions at linebacker.
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  Speaker 2: They had to kick a safety off the team. They've
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  Speaker 2: got some drama in their own right. They've got to
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  Speaker 2: get a quarterback broken into a brand-new offense. It's going
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  Speaker 2: to be sloppy. It's going to be wet over there.
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  Speaker 2: There is a path. to Carolina winning this game.
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  Speaker 3: But a path is one thing. You've said they're going
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  Speaker 3: to win the game.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, they're going. There's not a path to them winning
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  Speaker 2: the games I mentioned, like the Notre Dames.
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  Speaker 3: And the Miamis.
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  Speaker 2: This is a winnable game.
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  Speaker 3: I like it, Finn. I like it, baby.
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  Speaker 4: I think there's a path for them to keep it
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  Speaker 4: much closer than a year ago based off those things.
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  Speaker 4: I think there's a path to play within the point spread,
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  Speaker 4: which last time we checked was, what, 9.5? I think
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  Speaker 4: that they will at least... you know, put some game
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  Speaker 4: pressure on TCU in some ways.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so.
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  Speaker 4: Winning, though, I don't know about that. But I think
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  Speaker 4: they will, at least score-wise, perform a lot better than
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  Speaker 4: a year ago.
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  Speaker 3: Definitely. I agree with that.
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  Speaker 2: Permission to victory dance on Monday if we win on Saturday.
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  Speaker 3: Dance away, baby. Dance away. Dance an Irish jig, Finney.
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  Speaker 3: Do a little Michael. What was that, Michael Flatley? Do
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  Speaker 3: a little river dance.
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  Speaker 2: Because y'all haven't seen the Carolina undergarments. Y'all have seen
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  Speaker 2: the Panther thong and the Panther bra? You'll be amazed
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  Speaker 2: at all the Carolina undergarments I got.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if amazed is the right word.
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  Speaker 2: Irish.
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  Speaker 3: Could you dress like a leprechaun while you dance an
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  Speaker 3: Irish jig on Monday? Just a request. Can you get
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  Speaker 3: Flounder to also dance? What a combo. What a dancing duo. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: get him in there, too. We've never seen him dance.
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  Speaker 3: Flounder got pout. All right, before we get into those
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  Speaker 3: games specifically, and if you want to text, if you're
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  Speaker 3: a state fan or a Carolina fan, you want to
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  Speaker 3: text about tomorrow's game, certainly send them in. But I
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  Speaker 3: want to take one last look, Bone, at fan expectations,
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  Speaker 3: what we think they should be, what fans, what their
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  Speaker 3: expectations are for UNC and NC State. I want to
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  Speaker 3: take one last look at this, and I want to
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  Speaker 3: hear from Carolina fans and state fans on this. What
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  Speaker 3: do you want out of this season? If you're a
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  Speaker 3: Carolina fan, if you're a State fan. Dave Dorn. It's
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  Speaker 3: a football season, Heels fans, not basketball.
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  Speaker 1: Oh!
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  Speaker 3: Dave Dorn has not been bashful about, especially at ACC
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  Speaker 3: Media Days, about the 10-win goal. And the fact that
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  Speaker 3: he thinks it can be their first 10-win season. He
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  Speaker 3: has not been bashful about it. he's a little frisky
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  Speaker 3: do state fans go there to 10 wins or is
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  Speaker 3: that just a little too lofty that's one of the
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  Speaker 3: questions we got to talk about what is tampa tammy
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  Speaker 3: doing out.
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  Speaker 4: There uh she thinks that you're asking for expectations of
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  Speaker 4: the panther season she put up to sweep the bucks
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  Speaker 4: that's my expectation tampa tammy she put up losing season
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  Speaker 4: our studio audience needs to follow along here we're talking
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  Speaker 4: about unc and nc state damn right security get tampa
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  Speaker 4: tammy out of here Get that. Get her out of here.
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  Speaker 4: Go chase Zoki down the hallway.
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  Speaker 3: He likes it. Oh, she badgered Zoki the other day,
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  Speaker 3: and she damn near broke the board, man. Oh, we
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  Speaker 3: got a paragraph now. All right. Anyway, she writes things
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  Speaker 3: on her phone for us to read. This is so weird.
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  Speaker 4: She said she expects a winning season for Clemson.
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  Speaker 3: There you go. She is a Clemson fan, too. So
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  Speaker 3: just a little background on Tammy. She's my worst nightmare, honestly.
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  Speaker 3: So for Carolina, so for State, the question is, can
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  Speaker 3: you go 10 wins? Can you go to where Dave
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  Speaker 3: Doran has talked up? Those possibilities with a veteran in C.J. Bailey,
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  Speaker 3: with a schedule that creates opportunity. If you're a Carolina fan,
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  Speaker 3: what are expectations? Someone, who was it yesterday, West Durham,
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  Speaker 3: I think, that said if Carolina with that schedule makes
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  Speaker 3: a bowl game, it's a great season. I would go
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  Speaker 3: as far to say it's a damn near amazing season. Like,
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  Speaker 3: if Bill Belichick, with all these 40 freshmen that he
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  Speaker 3: brought in, Bone, 60 new players on the roster, that
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  Speaker 3: difficult schedule, the 13 toughest in the country per Phil Steele,
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  Speaker 3: if they won six games, damn near should be a parade.
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  Speaker 4: You know what I mean? That'd be unbelievable. Yeah, because
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  Speaker 4: it's hard to really, on paper, find them getting that many. However,
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  Speaker 4: what if they won five? but they finished the year
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  Speaker 4: by beating State. Would that satisfy the Heels fans? They
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  Speaker 4: didn't get to a bowl game, but they had more
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  Speaker 4: wins than they beat State along the way. Would that
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  Speaker 4: suffice for them? If it wasn't a bowl game, would
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  Speaker 4: they beat State at the end? I would argue that
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  Speaker 4: would be a heck of a season. For their circumstance?
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  Speaker 4: Would they rather go to a bowl game or beat State, basically,
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  Speaker 4: is what I'm asking. I'll answer that for you.
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  Speaker 3: I'd rather....
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  Speaker 2: I'd rather beat NC State.
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  Speaker 3: And not go to a bowl?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, because, like, man, we look at it. The
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  Speaker 2: most important thing about the bowl games in the modern
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  Speaker 2: world is the extra practices, how much further that gets
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  Speaker 2: you ready for next year. But I would trade those
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  Speaker 2: 12 to 15 extra practices to finally beat State. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know if I could stomach another loss to them.
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  Speaker 2: We talked about it on the podcast. There are some
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  Speaker 2: things I'm willing to do if it guarantees a win
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  Speaker 2: over NC State. And that might include sacrificing Momo.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if I can do this again. This
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  Speaker 3: is a first. This is a first. What did this
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  Speaker 3: man just do? He sacrificed his grandmother.
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  Speaker 4: Do you know what show you're on when you say
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  Speaker 4: stuff on this show?
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  Speaker 3: What the heck?
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  Speaker 4: That we're going to get blamed for cursing Momo.
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  Speaker 3: What are you going to do?
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  Speaker 5: Throw her in front of a cat's bus? I don't
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  Speaker 5: understand how you sacrifice a loved one. What the heck
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  Speaker 5: is going on? I don't know what I would do.
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  Speaker 5: She's 73 and I've seen my inheritance.
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  Speaker 3: What the hell? You're not making it any better. What
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  Speaker 3: the hell would you do for a playoff win? Oh
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  Speaker 3: my God.
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  Speaker 4: You don't want to know that one. It is notable.
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  Speaker 4: We say, oh, it's a hard schedule. Halloween on for
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  Speaker 4: the Heels is Miami, then it's at UConn, but Louisville,
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  Speaker 4: Virginia State. So they have Miami, Louisville, Virginia State for
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  Speaker 4: their last five. So not only do they have the
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  Speaker 4: TCU game tomorrow, Clemson, Notre Dame early on, they've got
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  Speaker 4: Pittsburgh and Duke in the middle on the road, which,
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  Speaker 4: by the way, is not going to be easy for them.
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  Speaker 4: And then they finish with The four or five I mentioned,
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  Speaker 4: it's tough in the beginning, it's tough in the middle,
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  Speaker 4: and it's tough at the end. There's really not a
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  Speaker 4: break here for them outside of maybe like East Tennessee State.
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  Speaker 4: And they had such an easy schedule last year by comparison,
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  Speaker 4: and they just couldn't take advantage of it because they
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  Speaker 4: were such a bleep show unprepared.
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  Speaker 3: To start the season.
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  Speaker 4: Because after East Tennessee State, at Clemson, Notre Dame, at Pittsburgh,
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  Speaker 4: at Duke, three or four on the road, at Clemson,
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  Speaker 4: at Pittsburgh, at Duke.
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  Speaker 3: How many of those are they winning? It's brutal. It's possible.
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  Speaker 3: It's zero. If they win four games with this schedule,
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  Speaker 3: they're a better team than last year. But the thing is,
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  Speaker 3: is that enough for Tar Heel fans? To me, Bone,
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  Speaker 3: if you're a Tar Heel fan, you need one of
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  Speaker 3: two things. You need... It to be so bad that
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  Speaker 3: there is no doubt. And the administration says, here's your
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  Speaker 3: $ 10 million. We owe you the guaranteed money. You're out
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  Speaker 3: of here. Like, I think I don't have a problem
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  Speaker 3: with a Torrio fan if they root for that. Literally
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  Speaker 3: that bad bone that the experiment ends. Or you've got
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  Speaker 3: to see enough progress under the hoodie that you feel like, okay, whatever.
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  Speaker 3: I think he's doing some work here. And the question
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  Speaker 3: is how many wins. It's also how it looks. Another
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  Speaker 3: question is how many freshmen across the course of the season, Bone,
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  Speaker 3: start showing something? Because if they say they want to
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  Speaker 3: build this thing with the young freshmen... and build it long-term,
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  Speaker 3: that's a big part of judging this team. Now, the
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  Speaker 3: problem is, Bone, freshmen can look good and they can
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  Speaker 3: go to the portal. So that's the problem with trying
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  Speaker 3: to build it long-term. But I don't know, man. They
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  Speaker 3: either got to show progress or stink so bad that
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  Speaker 3: UNC cuts bait.
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  Speaker 4: It's way risky to say you're going to build by
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  Speaker 4: freshmen because you might be building someone else's freshmen up,
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  Speaker 4: as you said. So that's very difficult. Meg, I have
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  Speaker 4: an observation here because– The text line is just astound.
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  Speaker 4: They're astounded by Fitty sacrificing Mama for a state. Can
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  Speaker 4: we also remember, Mac, that. We have heard before that
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  Speaker 4: it's not a rivalry between State and the back, or
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  Speaker 4: State and Carolina.
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  Speaker 3: That's true.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, no, in football, most definitely it's a rivalry.
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  Speaker 4: Sacrificing your grandmother now makes it a rivalry here.
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  Speaker 3: That reaches rivalry status. State has beaten Carolina five times.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just trying to give context to why Fiddy is
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  Speaker 3: sacrificing poor Maumau. Oh, my God. In fairness, she's kind
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  Speaker 3: of old. You ain't helping, Earl. This text just says,
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  Speaker 3: Finney just wants full access to the pool 24-7. Oh,
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  Speaker 3: my God.
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  Speaker 4: Someone said, how are you going to stay in the
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  Speaker 4: will by sacrificing her to the football guy?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Tim says he's out of Maumau's will. Yeah, if
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  Speaker 3: someone get this word along to Maumau, please.
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  Speaker 2: Also, well, usually, guys, I'm willing to sacrifice, like, potential
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  Speaker 2: or possible relationships. But I can't do that anymore. I
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  Speaker 2: had a date on Tuesday. Secured the second date last night.
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  Speaker 3: She has already passed Mama for you?
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  Speaker 4: A woman that gives Finney a second date passes his
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  Speaker 4: beloved grandmother. This just opens you up to complete, utter...
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  Speaker 4: humor and jokes by the state fans that you're willing
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  Speaker 4: to sacrifice mama. You're so desperate for a win.
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  Speaker 3: That's true. I thought you would play it cool like
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  Speaker 3: you're not bothered by it. You know, hey, basketball's coming, state.
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  Speaker 3: I thought you'd play it cool. 9-8-0 says throw mama
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  Speaker 3: from the train. Part two. It's the sequel. Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 2: It's not as bad as, I mean, Brandon Walker said
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  Speaker 2: that he would sacrifice his mother. to have Mississippi State
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  Speaker 2: win a national championship.
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  Speaker 3: Are you bottling yourself after Brandon? He is one of
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  Speaker 3: the idols in the industry. That explains a lot right there.
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  Speaker 3: That's a championship. That's not beating NC State football, for
• 13:01
  Speaker 3: God's sakes. You know, this could get us an awful
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  Speaker 3: announcing today, honestly. We should be an awful announcing every day.
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  Speaker 4: Radio producer will sacrifice grandma for college football.
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  Speaker 3: This should 100% be on there. All right, anyway, 704-570-962.
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  Speaker 3: If they knew about it, it would be on there.
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  Speaker 3: Someone get that along to Awful Announcing. Someone tell Maumau
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  Speaker 3: and Awful Announcing, we've got to talk about state expectations, too.
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  Speaker 3: State fans, you're right, are very amused. This dude says,
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  Speaker 3: we got Finney down bad. I'm just dying laughing. Another
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  Speaker 3: texter says, I'm a state fan. Even I want to
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  Speaker 3: spare poor Maumau. Oh, my goodness. So, NC State fan expectations.
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  Speaker 3: Jump in here if you're a State fan. Let us
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  Speaker 3: know what you're thinking. 704 number says, Mac, I can't
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  Speaker 3: help but laugh. If you're buying Dave Doran's, I'm finally
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  Speaker 3: going to win 10 games in year 78. You are
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  Speaker 3: gullible as hell. I'm just setting the stage for the topic, Bone.
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  Speaker 3: I personally... have said eight or nine wins for the
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  Speaker 3: pack is what I would predict. And usually you say
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  Speaker 3: that and you're, you're probably dead on. It's because that's
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  Speaker 3: the range where the majority of their seasons end in.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not going to go to 10 wins bone. I'm
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  Speaker 3: not going to say it's impossible with the schedule that
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  Speaker 3: they have and with CJ Bailey back, but we, you know,
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  Speaker 3: there's a lot we need to see defensively, the new weapons.
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  Speaker 3: I think CJ Bailey will make the new weapons in
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  Speaker 3: the passing game better than They lost their top five
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  Speaker 3: pass catchers, but I think guys like Keenan Jackson and
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  Speaker 3: Snow and Dozier, I think that Bailey will make those
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  Speaker 3: guys better. I love Duke Scott, but it's just, I
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  Speaker 3: can't be the one to, we've never seen it before.
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  Speaker 3: We've seen Dave Dorn have a ton of eight or
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  Speaker 3: nine win seasons. I can't go out there and say 10, though. Like,
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  Speaker 3: they've got to prove it to me, you know?
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  Speaker 4: Also, if they beat Virginia, you know, momentum-wise, don't go
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  Speaker 4: lose at Vanderbilt then along the way in a couple weeks, right? Like,
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  Speaker 4: carry that over. With State, you never know. There could
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  Speaker 4: be a high. There could be a low. There could
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  Speaker 4: be a low. There could be a high. You never know.
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  Speaker 4: I think that the path is there for that, but
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  Speaker 4: I just feel safe for predicting them at the 8
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  Speaker 4: or 9 win range because– That's what we've known for
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  Speaker 4: so long. Something usually happens there where they can't get
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  Speaker 4: to that 10 wins. By the way, they want a
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  Speaker 4: statement from Finney's family, from other family members on what
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  Speaker 4: he just did there.
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  Speaker 5: Seriously.
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  Speaker 4: Can we get a comment from them all, please? What
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  Speaker 4: would Papa Finney say if he heard that?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, he wouldn't be surprised. I one time uttered after
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  Speaker 2: we lost to Duke in basketball, bone of the year,
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  Speaker 2: y'all blocked. Was it Marcus Pages shot or Joel Berry
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  Speaker 2: shot the buzzer? that I would rather die than lose
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  Speaker 2: to Duke again in basketball.
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  Speaker 3: He kicked me out of the house.
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  Speaker 2: So he wouldn't be surprised I'm willing to sacrifice my mom.
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  Speaker 4: You realize on this show you have to be careful
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  Speaker 4: about things that you say on this show. There's powers
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  Speaker 4: that be here that really– I don't want to get blamed, Mac,
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  Speaker 4: for Mama's demise here on this radio show.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, look what Mega Moe did. It's on us on
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  Speaker 3: this show. Oh, there's one person involved. Nick points out
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  Speaker 3: that Mama is the one person willing to put a
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  Speaker 3: roof over Finney's head right now. That's not true.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: Big Payne golfing me his garage as Maumau kicks me out.
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: There's two people that would take me in.
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: Okay, there you go. I'm glad you got back up. Matt,
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: here's what's concerning, too. Are you going to watch the
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: game with Maumau in the house? Because this could be
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: a true crime episode if all of a sudden Maumau
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: goes missing and you're watching the UNC State game in
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: your house.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: I've got the man cave set up, so no. It'll
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: be on the grounds of Maumau's property. But not with.
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: Maumau, cut that cable. Call in and cancel Phinney's cable, man.
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: Internet out. That's what I need. Get rid of the internet.
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: That's right. Don't let him watch that game tomorrow. 704
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: number says, Mac, I think that's a safe move. The
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: problem is, as a state fan, eight or nine wins
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: is a good, solid season. It's just, we're over it. Yeah,
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: I don't blame you for feeling like, oh, okay, great.
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: We won eight or nine games again. You want more.
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: And that's the complaint the fan base has with Dorn. Like,
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: we know that you can pilot a really good, solid program, right?
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: I think they're second in wins, I think, over like
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: the last six years in the ACC, right? Like, it's
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: a good, solid program. But where is that special season, right?
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: Where are wins against ranked teams? There's not near enough
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: of those. It's a horrible record against ranked teams, right?
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: Where's a trip to Charlotte where fans can celebrate? We're
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: in the ACC title game. So I don't know. I mean,
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't blame state fans if you say if it's
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: not and if you don't do any of those sort
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: of things. I just kind of shrugged my shoulders or
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: slow clap it. You know, I understand that. Fitty celebrity
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: text here. Maumau was overrated anyway. Sincerely, the ghost of
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: Dolly Parton. Can you believe Fitty has done Dolly, Dirty
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: and Maumau this week? My God. He's not good with
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: the olds.
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: By the way, Maumau's not even really, I mean, you know,
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: for the name Maumau, she's not that old.
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: Like, 70, 73?
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: No, she got started young.
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: That's not that old for a Maumau. She's not like
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: 80 or 90 here. She's got a long way to go.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: No.
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: You basically cut her off by about 15 years. Actually, Bone,
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: according to, if Finney gets his hope, she has literally
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: like three months.
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: God dang, seriously. That's unbelievable. Unbelievable. Last time he caused
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: a stir. was when he said he didn't wear a seatbelt.
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: And that day, God was like, I'll teach you a lesson, son.
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: Now he's going after Maumau. Now I'm going to be
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: worried all day. Unbelievable.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: Maumau, you ought to become a Pac-Fan. That's what you
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: ought to do. 919 says, NC State, we, NC State,
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: will beat someone we should... We should lose, too, and
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: we'll lose to someone we should beat. Yeah, that's the thing, too.
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: That's been the problem, Bone. Are they consistent enough to
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: win 10 games to where they don't trip up a
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: couple of times against teams that they shouldn't? You know, like... Listen,
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: as doable as the schedule is, if they lost, if
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: you're a state fan and they are 1-3 with losses
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: at Virginia and at Vanderbilt, would any state fan be floored?
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: No.
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: Like, I think you've got to win one of those games.
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: I think you have to, to be able to do
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: anywhere near what we think you could do.
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: With the way they go, Mac, they could lose to Virginia,
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: lose to Vanderbilt, and beat Louisville on the way and
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: gain hope for the fans.
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: That's true, too. They could get one back along the way.
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: But there's still a lot of unknowns, as there are
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: with all these teams. State's defense, man, they have dropped
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: from the standard. They have given up, last year, 27
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: points a game. The year before that, 30 points a game.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: That is so far below the standard of the old
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: tony gibson defenses they got to get back closer to
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: the standard defensively um this texture says uh as a
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: carolina fan um i'm with fitty if we go 1
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: and 11 but we beat state i'm happy Oh, there
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: you go. Actually, that may work out. The more I
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: think about that, you probably would get Belichick fired, which
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: would probably make a lot of Carolina fans happy, but
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: you would beat NC State. I could actually see the
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: logic of that one. It kind of makes sense. And
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: that text or bone did not sacrifice any family members.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: in order to get that win over NC State.
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: Someone says, Finney trying to put someone six feet under
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: is the first time he's approached six feet.
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: How about this? Finney's trying to put someone five, six under.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: Fort Millionaire says, careful State fans, just look at Chapel
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: Hill and see how bad you can be if you
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: fire a solid coach. See, that's a good point, too.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: That's the rub, right? Like, what Dave Dorn is doing
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: is solid. It's fairly consistent. The program doesn't get in
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: trouble for anything. He runs it the right way. But
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: you want more. That's the be careful what you ask
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: for type of situation. As long as John Pryor doesn't
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: become a booster at NC State, though, I think they're
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: safe from a hire that bad.
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: Talk about a guy that's no longer in the act.
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: He's gone, right? He caused all this chaos. No longer
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: on the board. So you let him run that whole show,
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: and then you run him off the board. There's going
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: to be a documentary at some point in time called
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: Prior Mistakes. It'll be all about the lead-up of how
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: Belichick landed in college football. 704, I need to know
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: once and for all, is Fitty a concocted character for
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: the radio, or is some human being actually this low?
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: No, he's.
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: A soulless real man. He's a non-seatbelt-wearing, Dolly Parton-hating, mama-sacrificing man.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: That sounded like a country song, didn't it, Mac?
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: He's a seatbelt-wearing, Dolly Parton-hating, soulless man. Mama was sacrificed
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: to the gods.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God. Reply? Oh, God. That's funny. That's funny.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: Real Josh Allen says Dorn is the Herb Sendak of
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: college football. Herb Sendak went to five straight tournaments. So
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: I guess, is he saying good or bad? Because eventually,
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: after firing Sendak, eventually after a while, it was like, oh,
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: what did we do here? It got worse.
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: It got worse. It was like firing Bobby Lutz at Charlotte. So, yeah, definitely.
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: When we come back, we got Panthers questions. Should we
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: really be ticked? The starters aren't playing tonight. Who could
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: be a surprise to make the Panthers roster? Who could
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: be a surprise cut? What positions to target also after
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: the cutdown? It's Mack, it's Bone, and Fitty. Sports Radio,
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: 92.7 WFNZ. Grandma got run over by a wolf pack.
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: Walking home from our house Christmas Eve.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: Oh, that is DVR Dave. The dulcet tones of DVR
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: Dave there. No laughing either. He does not find this
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: to be a laughing matter. It's not a serious song. Oh,
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: my God. Although I guess in this case, a fitty
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: saying he would sacrifice his maumau for a Carolina football
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: win over State after five straight losses. I guess in
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: this case, Bone, it would be grandma getting run over
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: by Ramsey's.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: Wouldn't it be? Ramsey's would come running at her with
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: a big old thing, swing it, and just take her out, man. Oh,
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: poor Momo.
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: Mack Ramsey's got a sack of toys, but it's not
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: quite like Santa Claus' sack of toys. Oh, no. Mack, Tara.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: Has weighed in, right? Okay, okay.
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: She said she hopes that the new girl is not
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: listening for the first time here, and the first thing
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: she heard was the guy that took her on a
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: date killing off his grandmother for a football win.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: I know, that's a very good point. I didn't think
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: about that.
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: Would that not be the funniest thing ever, Maggie, if
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: he loses date, too, because of what he said on
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: the air?
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God, yes. We would die laughing. Oh, my God.
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: This texter says, even for Phitty, that's an evil comment.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: Even on the Finney scale bone, that's bad. Oh, man. Anyway,
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: we've got to focus here on the Panthers. We're playing
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: a game tonight. By the way, Wolfpack Virginia preview conversation
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: coming up at 745. We've got multiple Panthers questions to
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: throw out there to the Panther fans, and we will
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: continue to read your texts. about Fitty's latest comment that
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: we just cannot believe. I do want to hear now, though,
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: from Dave Canales. Let's set the stage, Bone, for Panther
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: question number one on this Football Friday of, do you
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: have a problem? Because some of you have been texting
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: us saying yes. Do you have a problem? Does Canales
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: deserve criticism for not playing the starters tonight after the
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: offensive struggles on Wednesday? Listen to Canales when he was
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: asked the question after that hideous offensive practice, are you
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: playing the starters?
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we will not play the starters. D'Amico and I
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: talked about that last night, decided the amount of work
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: we were going to get them. This practice really got
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: the starters a ton of reps. They took about 75%
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: of the snaps with the twos and threes kind of
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: getting a little bit of work just to make sure
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: their body's moving and they're in the rhythm of it.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: But those guys will finish it out for us and
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: a great opportunity for them to compete and show us
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: what they got.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: So there you go. Not surprising, Bone. Canales has never
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: played the starters in the last preseason game, but the
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: offense has one touchdown in five preseason drives. It was
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: some bad and some good against Jacksonville in the joint practice.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: And then it was horrible for the first team. Talk
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: about first team now, offense. It was horrible on Wednesday.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: You said last hour that you are.
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: You do kind of think he's worthy of getting criticism.
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: I'm torn between logic and what makes sense. And yeah,
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: there's a lot that he says there that does between
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: logic and fandom. Because the fandom part of me wants
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: to feel something better than we saw in the joint
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: session for the next couple weeks. Whether or not they're
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: playing against high-level players for Houston or not, the last
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: vision I want to see of them is the first-team
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: offense celebrating something. having some success. Yes, I understand what
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: he's saying, but the fan part of me thinks I
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: wanted something to lean on for this long stretch here
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: until Chicago to feel better about whether or not it
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: matters fully or not. I just want to optically see
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: something better than we ended on the other day.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: I don't– I just– and I get that. I get
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: with fans, like, I got two weeks. I need to
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: get my mojo back. I need to get vibes back.
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: Because there's now a long time between the last time
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: we see them and the– there used to be a
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: shorter gap because of the other games. Now we have
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: an extended break here where it's going to be a
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: lot of– basically, it's going to be a lot of negativity,
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: I think, until Chicago.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: And you just want to avoid that. Selfishly, you want
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: to avoid the negativity. I get that.
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: I just– I don't like to live in a negative
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: world where we're killing off our grandmothers. I just look
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: at it like this, Bone. What does it prove if
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: Bryce Young and the starters go out there and score
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: a touchdown for the second straight week against some teams'
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: twos on defense?
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: What does that really, in reality, prove? Yeah, it'll give
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: us maybe a little mojo pick-me-up, but is it worth
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: the risk of you got to this final game, those
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: guys got tons of snaps the other day, Yeah, it
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: was ugly, but you've gotten this final preseason game. You
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: usually don't play starters. Like, is it worth the risk
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: of a starter getting hurt tonight? I just don't think
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: the reward bone is worth the risk. That's where I'm
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: at on this.
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: And that's probably why he's making the logical correct choice.
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: But there's that part of me that also says, man,
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: I would just like to see some offensive success here
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: any way, shape, or form before we put this whole
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: camp on ice here.
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: Absolutely. And I get that. I do. Listen, I've got
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: to be honest, Bone. The college football has me so
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: cranked up. I cannot wait for tomorrow. I can't wait
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: to see what the pack, what Carolina has. This Panther
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: game tonight, This thing's a slog. This is a mental
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: slog trying to get myself ready for this one. And
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: I don't want to, like, I don't want, you know,
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: I want to always appreciate football. But it's like, the
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: fact that we have an extra preseason game is really
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: in my head right now. It's like, preseason should be
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: over after three. Like, I love being in the Hall
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: of Fame game, but could they have not, like, then
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: taken away our last preseason game?
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: It's also the timing of it where tomorrow for us here,
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: We have two huge college games. By comparison, yeah. And
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: it's like we're ready to get to the games that matter.
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: It's right there. We're reaching out. It's there.
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: But we have to get through one game where we
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: know by the time this thing's... Look, these guys have
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: always been difficult to not slog through.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: Those Pittsburgh.
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: panthers pittsburgh panders those pittsburgh and carolina panthers game four
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: preseason games they were brutal those are the only games
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: where i would say mac would go on the panthers
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: run at night because remember they'd be playing opposite the
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: thursday night week one college football game i remember there
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: was a state in south carolina had one.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: It's like how do i care about this thing you
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: bring up a good point And I hate that the
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: only home game is this one with no starters. Like,
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: I would have loved last week's game to be the
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: home game in the preseason, so I hate it for
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: y'all as fans. You bring up a good point, though.
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: This game last week, yeah, let's do it. right no
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: starters whatever let's do it let's let's focus on the
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: guys that are battling for jobs but like this game
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: this week when we know we got real football tomorrow
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: it does feel different people are confused because they said.
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: Why uh why is the paycheck brights getting sandwiched by
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: hunter and anderson is not worth it those guys are
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: not playing no houston's not playing that's what we're saying
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: we know who they're playing against i would rather than
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: have some almost guaranteed success If it was Hunter and Anderson, no,
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: I'm not. The way they did the other day, I
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: don't want any part of that tonight if they were
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: out there.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: Absolutely. 704 number, why the heck is Dave Kanellis making
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: his decisions based on what the opposing coach says? I mean,
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: obviously he's got the right to say, okay, D'Amico, you're
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: not playing your starters, I'm playing... They kind of mapped
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: out the week. Hey, how much work do you need
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: your starters to get Wednesday to not play them Friday?
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: They both didn't want to play them tonight. Another texter says,
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: Justin Herbert apparently is not above playing last night, so
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: why is Bryce Young? I mean, every team does it differently.
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Yeah. Every team does it differently.
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: I just don't want anybody getting hurt tonight. Let's put
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: the starters in bubble wrap. I mean, I know it
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: sucks because we feel like, Bone, they have not– Proved
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: anything good. I understand.
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: He threw three passes last night. Yeah, it was only
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: three passes. Matt, what did old Chick Hearn used to say?
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: As the preseason goes here, the Jell-O's jiggling, the eggs
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: are getting... What did he used to say to wrap.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: Up the games?
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah. Something about the refrigerator. Put it in the refrigerator.
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: Something was jiggling there. Something's in the fridge. Yeah, that's
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: what this preseason is right now. Our Jell-O's jiggling, I think,
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: right now.
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: Let's see here. WorkCapris, that's a heck of a text name, says,
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: preseason or not, it's the first game of the bank.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: So I hate to say I'm a greedy fan, but
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: I'd like to see Bryce throw the first ball to
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: start the home season. Tommy says the fact that Canales
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: thinks his guys are good and don't need other more
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: work is laughable. Again, you've got to balance it out.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: I think he wants to get them to work where
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: Bryce Young can't get hit in a practice. I don't
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: think he wants to put Bryce out there because again,
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: what does it do? Like, like everybody's saying they need
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: more work. What do you think? They're going to take
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: off two weeks and not practice. Like what's the, what,
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: what is the game tonight? That's so great that it's
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: worth risking Bryce Young's health. Yeah, that's the counterpoint that
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: I can't fight on that. Also, I said, yeah, you're
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: going against backups. Well, guess who's going to play extra
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: hard tonight, Mac? Guys trying to make the team. Guys
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: trying to earn their spot.
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: You talk about Anderson and Hunter would probably not want to...
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: crush someone in the pre to be honest they would
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: probably not the guys that are trying to fight for
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: their spot and they would sacrifice a loved one back
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: to make a football.
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: Team you got a bunch of fittings you got a
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: bunch of tommy tryhards right yeah you got tommy tryhard
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: out there tonight Like, do you want Tommy Tryhard to
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: your point going after Bryce and stuff like that?
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: Here's what I'm looking for, Mac. The preseason's in the fridge.
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: The door's closed. The lights are out. The eggs are cooling.
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: The butter's getting hard. And the jello's jiggling.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: There you go. That is the Chick Hearns special when
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: the Lakers would win a game. Mac, here's the thing.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: I get why you don't play your starters. I understand it.
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: Can you imagine the reaction? And Bone brought this up yesterday.
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: I made a promo about this. If this offense starts
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: slow against Chicago... and let's say it's like 24-7 in
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: the middle of the third quarter, and Bryce looks at
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: it the way Bryce has looked in the openers, then
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: at some point, man, the criticism is only going to
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: continue to build. Yeah, you do open yourself up. There's
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: no doubt you open yourself up to criticism over this
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: if you start slow yet again.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: We're in year three of Dave Canales and this operation.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: We need to see progress. I understand it's a 17-game season,
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: and you don't make or break what you do in September.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: But can you afford to always get off to these
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: slow starts and come back to win the division every year?
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: But really, when you think about it, does anybody really
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: think that they will play better offensively just because they
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: scored a touchdown against Houston's backups? Like, just point blank. Like,
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: just logically think through that right now. Do I know?
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: But so much to me of this is like an
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: optic of how bad they looked against Buffalo. It took
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: them to the second drive against the Jacksonville Twos to
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: pick up an actual first down. And then we just
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: did the reaction yesterday.
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: What if they play them and they don't score? And
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: it's worse.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: Then we're really freaking out. I think the tone would
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: be different, Mac, honestly, if we would have been able
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: to come back yesterday. And told you, hey, our Panther
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: offense beat that Texas defense. And that's not the case.
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: I don't think he can worry about tone and optics.
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: He's got a team to coach. You know what I mean?
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: Salesman says, I just don't understand the overall nonchalant towards
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: preseason that Canales has. It's not like we're some juggernaut
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: on the verge of a Super Bowl. We've been cheeks
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: for a decade. There you go, salesman checking in. Probably
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: from a bathroom stall somewhere, salesman. Good morning, salesman. What
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: do you think? How about this Panther question, too, Bone?
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: Do you have a name as either a surprise cut
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: or a surprise roster inclusion? Does somebody come to mind?
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: Or have we talked about all these names to where
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: there's really not anything that's going.
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: To surprise people? I don't know if there's any surprises.
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: The Albert Reese one early on would be a surprise.
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: Make the team guy who we've not considered. Is there
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: a path for him? Can I give you one that's
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: not mine? But CBSSports.com did a list of possible surprise
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: cuts around the league to monitor. And on the Panthers side,
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: they included Darren Waller on their list. They had like
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: 10 or 12 on there from around the league with
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: Darren Waller.
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: As a cut. Yeah, as a cut candidate. That would
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: definitely— I think they're keeping him. I think they're keeping him
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: at the expense of Sanders.
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: It would not be a surprise if they published him
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: for maybe the first month or so or did something
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: of that nature, practice squad. I think they still want
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: him ultimately to be a part of this, so I
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: don't think they're going to outright waive Darren Waller. I mean,
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: we couldn't talk to a guy back on Wednesday's radio
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: program when they released him two days later.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: We don't have that type of power. If we curse
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: him and or A.J. Dillon, I'm going to feel bad.
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: I think Waller's making it. I think he's just too different.
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: He's too different than what we have. And if they're
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: trying to trade Sanders, I think we have our answer.
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: But I don't know if that report's true. That came
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: out of Wisconsin. I don't know if that's true. Packers
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: signed John U. Smith yesterday.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: Oh, so they're not doing the Sanders thing. But were
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: we really trying to trade Sanders, or is that publication...
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: Packer report full of crap. That's a good question. I
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: would be surprised, Bone, if what Mike Kay says happens.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: Mike Kay had him keeping only eight offensive linemen. I
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: think he was the one that said that. I'd be
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: very surprised if they don't keep nine offensive linemen. Because
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: he had Brady Christensen essentially as the backup tackle. I'm
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: not sure you can leave it like that. I'm not
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: saying Stone, Forsythe, or Albert Reese are all pros, Anthony
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: Munoz or something, but I don't think you can just
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: Brady Christensen come off the Achilles. I don't think you
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: can do it. So I would throw that out there.
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: Some people are saying Trevin Wallace. I don't think he's
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: going to get– they still need linebacker depth pieces there,
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: even if they brought in– someone else. We could talk
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: about his spot within the rotation. I don't think they're
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: at a spot now to outright just release him or Jarvis.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: If they were so disillusioned with him, yeah, I was
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: thinking about that one.
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, him and Jarvis have been great, but
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: they still actually, they have to have bodies at that spot.
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: You would think they'd still be your best backups. They're cheap.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: They don't cost a lot of money. What is that
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: dude's name in Dallas? I was reading like the CBS article, Bone,
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: about linebacker, or about guys you could trade for. It
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: might be available in trade. Is it Leah Fowle? Is
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: that how you say the name of the kid in Dallas?
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: I know the name, but I don't know how to
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: exactly say it. Started the last two years. They tried
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: to move him to edge. Then they brought in Von Miller,
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: and CBS articles said maybe now he goes to someone
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: that wants him to play his traditional position, which is linebacker.
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: Does Cowboy Fitty not know? Cowboy Fitty? Leah Fowle? Is
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: that it? Who are you talking to?
• 38:03
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: Even if he did no bone, he would not answer
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: this question because he doesn't want to take any more
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: heat today.
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: You know, he wants to act like, I don't know
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: anything about the Cowboys. I'm Panther Fiddy. I mean, it's
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: not like he didn't bring the heat on himself here
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: or anything, did he?
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: No, no. All right.
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: Do we do a Fiddy update here real quick? Do
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: we get that in here?
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: Fiddy update. He is not.
• 38:23
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  Speaker 2: One final time, 704-334-9934. nine, nine, three, four. We had
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: a four games last night in the preseason. The Buffalo
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: bills beat the Pittsburgh Steelers, 28, 27, the Cleveland Browns.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: They beat the Patriots 37 to 13, the 49ers. They
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: beat the Raiders 18 to 12 Fernando Mendoza through another interception.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: And then in the nightcap, the chargers, they lost at
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: home to the Rams 22-18. Rookie quarterback Ty Simpson threw
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: another touchdown for L.A.
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: All right, we come back here on the Mac and
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: Bone Show. After weeks of hype, will State get it
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: done versus the Hoos? Or will they give us some
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: more wolfpack? I almost said the word bleep on Sports
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: Radio 92.7.
• 40:14
  Speaker 6: The interesting thing to me, like the two strengths of
• 40:16
  Speaker 6: this team to me, don't go against each other. You
• 40:18
  Speaker 6: have CJ Bailey, who is the guy and a certified playmaker.
• 40:22
  Speaker 6: And then you have this offensive line for Virginia that
• 40:25
  Speaker 6: I think right now, preseason on paper is the best
• 40:28
  Speaker 6: offensive line in the conference. So who is going to
• 40:32
  Speaker 6: show up better? Who is going to be able to
• 40:34
  Speaker 6: make plays and Is it that big, nasty offensive line
• 40:38
  Speaker 6: up front that's just mowing guys down, getting chunky runs,
• 40:41
  Speaker 6: methodically going up and down the field? Or is it
• 40:44
  Speaker 6: the splash and the firepower within NC State there with C.J. Bailey?
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: That is Eric McLean on his podcast, him and Kelly Gramlich,
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: talking about the strength of state, C.J.
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: Bailey.
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: Third year, started quarterback, same place, and man, he is
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: getting better and apparently tore it up at the Manning
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: Pass Academy. Had a great offseason. And then you got
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: Virginia with all these old veteran offensive linemen that are
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: going to want to grind it out on the ground.
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: So it's going to be a good clash of styles.
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: I love the fact that that we start with this game.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: I actually like this game, even though I'm rooting for
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: the Pack and it's a disadvantage. I like the game
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: being on campus in Charlottesville more than Brazil. Oh, absolutely.
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: You know what I mean?
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: Like, and you've got a sellout crowd in Charlottesville. I
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: don't know, Bone. You know I've been hyping up State
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: all offseason. But we've gotten multiple texts today that have said,
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: from State fans. Basically, I'll paraphrase. State ain't winning this
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: game because... There are expectations for them. How many times, Bone, me, others.
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: Definitely me, hyping up State during the summer, and they
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: immediately let you down. So there is part of me
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: that fears this tomorrow, if the hell they're playing this game.
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: But I also think I'm going to ride with C.J.
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: Bailey over Bo Pribula. I think it's going to come
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: down to the best player on the field winning this,
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: making winning plays. And the best player on the field
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: to me is C.J. Bailey, especially if Virginia's linebacker Cam
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: Robinson can't play.
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: Well, obviously that's a huge deal for the Hoos. They
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: have a lot of guys out, but Cam Robinson, one
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: of the best players in the country, he's out. We
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: saw last year back when he did not play at
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: the end of the season at Duke in the second
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: game in the championship game. the impact that he has.
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: He didn't play against State in the first game, had
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: a different injury, and State hung 35 on that. That
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: defense was really good last year. Without him, State hung 35.
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: It was one of the most entertaining football games of
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: the early part of last season. It kind of got
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: forgotten a little bit, but week three, 35-31 the final.
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: Chandler Morris had a chance at the end to win
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: the game. He didn't.
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: But, again, college football changes so much, Mac. Chandler Morris
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: was 30 for 43, 257. He's not in this game.
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: Jabari Taylor ran for 150. He's not in this game.
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: On the other side, Hollywood Smothers ran for two touchdowns, 140.
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: So a lot of the big components of that game.
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: Are not in there.
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: But to your point, the one that remains is C.J.
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: Bailey from last season. That's a big one.
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: And for Virginia, it's that offensive line. Virginia's got a
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: lot of experience. They brought in a lot of experience transfers, too.
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: But they're not all on the same page just yet, right?
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: So there's that going on. But State brought in a
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: ton of transfers in their own right. I mean, also missing,
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: all State's top receiving weapons from last year, gone. For Virginia,
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: their top four leading receivers, gone. So there's so much new.
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: That's kind of why I lean on C.J. Bailey, Bone.
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: I mean, but if they were to lose, I just
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: think the game goes down the wire. I think similar
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: to last year, maybe less points. but similar to last year.
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: But hell, if this thing got into the 30s, I
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: don't know if it would. I just don't expect Bo
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: Pribula to be near as good as Chandler Morris. I
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: think Chandler Morris is underrated. I think people, for some reason,
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: are sleeping on how good he was last year or
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: forget how good he was last year. Bo Pribula bone
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: in SEC play last year, four touchdowns and eight picks.
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: First three games of the season in the non-conference, seven
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: touchdowns and one pick. Once he got into conference games
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: and played legitimate opponents. Now, I'm not saying State's defense, Bo,
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: especially after last year, is some sort of vaunted SEC defense. But, like,
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: I just, I'm very skeptical, whereas with Bailey, yeah, they
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: lost all their weapons, but he can hand it off
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: to Duke Scott, who had 196 yards and over 100
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: yards in his two starts last year. And I also
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: think Bailey will make those receivers better. The Keenan Jacksons,
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: the Victor Snows, the Dozers. I think he'll make those
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: guys better. Is Papiola going to make his new receivers better?
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: And one of them's out tomorrow, Flores. I'm leaning state
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: here like you are. Really?
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: In a close game similar to last year. Not maybe
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: as many points. Right now, 72% of the money line
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: is on Virginia straight up. The spread is 56% towards
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: NC State. That spread's dropped down from 5 to 4.
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: 5.5 to 4. 60% is on the under right now.
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: I was thinking maybe the over, but early season can
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: kind of go lower than you think.
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: I think State wins a A game that.
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: Will come across as much cleaner than the first game
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: because of the elements and the international stuff going on there.
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: I think State Virginia is a very entertaining game.
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: I think C.J.
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: Bailey is ultimately the biggest difference and figures out a
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: way at the end to pull this game out.
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: So this is a change for you, right? Because I
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: feel like in the offseason, you've been saying Virginia is
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: going to beat them. Or were you saying that just
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: to piss off Wolfpack Mac?
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: No, what I said the whole time was it's interesting
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: that Virginia was favored by as much as they were.
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: I thought you had been saying that Virginia's going to
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: win this game, like through the summer.
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: No, I had been saying let's not overlook the fact
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: that NC State's an underdog, but as we get closer
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: to this game right now, my gut feel tells me,
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: and the Cam Robinson thing is a big deal, too.
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: You can't overlook that either. If he doesn't play in
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: this game, for a team that relies so heavily on him,
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: if he's not in there... That's a major wall. So
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: I think it's going to be a fun game. But
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: I think State wins this thing.
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: I like it. Wolfpack, Boney. Come on, Boney. Why? Finger it, Boney.
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: Finger it. Wolfpack, finger it, baby. Wolfpack, fingers. I won't
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: do that. I love it, Boney.
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: Why can't we just have... Why can't we just pick games?
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: Why can't you just not be a bag one time?
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I just have fun doing that whole
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: thing where you're a fan. Plus... Plus, I want you.
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: I want you with Pac-Mac, baby. That's all. That's all.
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: Let me read some of these. After what you just
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: said there, give me Virginia minus four. Joey from Huntersville
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: says C.J. Bailey's going to be a huge bust. He
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: had 25 touchdowns, six picks last year. I know he
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: lost a bunch of receivers, but does anybody think third-year
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: quarterback in the same system all of a sudden goes
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: out there and stinks? Like he got better from his
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: first starting year to his second year. Joey from Huntersville,
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: that is Tar Heel saltiness, sir. That's what that is.
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: You bring a guy back for a third year in college,
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: that's having like a 40-year-old Steve DeBerg in the NFL
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: back in the day. This guy's been around forever now
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: at this point, right?
• 47:44
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: T.J.
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: Bailey, Steve DeBerg, you heard it here first.
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: I mean, he can recite the offense in his sleep.
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: That's got to be good for something in this era
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: where Pribula's to a new system. So many people are
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: in new systems. 704 number says, Mac, I'm a diehard
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: Wolfpack fan, and hearing you tout us brings back nightmares.
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: You never tout a Pack team that ends up being
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: any good. There's that. There is that, too, Bo.
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: But yet, if you picked against them, they'd say, there
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: goes Tar Heel Mack, not waking the pack. You really
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: can't win that one, can you? I can't ever win,
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: and I don't often win.
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: I do not. I'll just say this. I think, because
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: this dude says, Mack, do you realize how crappy State's
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: pass rush and pass defense was last year? Oh, my God.
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: It was horrendous. I mean, couldn't get to the quarterback.
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: Secondary got torn apart. They did bring in King Mack.
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: The transfer from Penn State, they did bring in Evans
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: to transfer from Georgia to add to the secondary. They
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: got a bunch of dudes back in that secondary as well.
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: Nelson and Royal and some of those dudes. Vic, I
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: think they're going to be better. Plus, here's the thing, Bone.
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: Is Bo Prabula really going to test whether their past
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: defense is dramatically improved? I don't really think so, you know?
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: When we come back, Chris Childers, college football media member,
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: Sirius XM, Mad Dog Sports Radio. He gives us a
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: preview of the season and games tomorrow and talks about
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  Speaker 4: his recent conversation with Lane Kiffin on Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.