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The Week That Was - 16th December 2022 · 360 with Katie Woolf

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Speaker 1: This time for the week that was the last week
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Speaker 1: that was for twenty twenty two, and joining me in
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Speaker 1: the studio as the colp's Murray Claire Boothby.
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Speaker 2: Good morning to you, Good morning Katie, and to your listeners.
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Speaker 1: We have got independent keys here Puric who's jingling over there,
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Speaker 1: jingling all the way. Don't worry, we will post a
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Speaker 1: photo of her magnificent hat that she's wearing today. Everybody's
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Speaker 1: in a bit of Christmas cheer. Good morning to you,
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Speaker 1: keez here, Morning Katie, Morning bush people. And we've also
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Speaker 1: got Paul Kirby who is donning a Santa hat today
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Speaker 1: for the ALP. Good morning to you, curbs.
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Speaker 3: Good morning, yeah, good morning everyone. Very Christmas. He feel
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Speaker 3: around the place this morning.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, there really is. And Keyzy has even brought in
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Speaker 1: a special Christmas button.
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Speaker 4: Christmas, oh God.
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Speaker 1: And I think every time every time he does something new,
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Speaker 1: which is which is lots of fun. Now we will
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Speaker 1: get into into sort of the biggest stories of the
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Speaker 1: year a little bit later this hour, but I am
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Speaker 1: keen to cover off still on the issues of the week,
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Speaker 1: because unfortunately things haven't quiet and down there is still
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Speaker 1: a lot happening around the place, and I'll kick off
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Speaker 1: this morning with the fact that there were indeed a
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Speaker 1: number of car thefts earlier in the week. We know
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Speaker 1: that Strikeforce Trident and the Dog Operations Unit they worked
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Speaker 1: tirelessly to secure the arrest of fifteen people involved in
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Speaker 1: separate property offenses. So essentially we're in a situation where
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Speaker 1: Patrol Dog Drax and daily they trailed through heavy vegetation
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Speaker 1: to track six offenders who allegedly stole a Toyota high
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Speaker 1: Lux in Yarrawanga that was one of the incidents.
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Speaker 5: And then went speeding with it to town.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then there was another situation where there were
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Speaker 1: a number of vehicles stolen five I think it was
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Speaker 1: in total though nine cars stolen. Eventually the Northern Territory
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Speaker 1: Police being able to apprehend fifteen people, one hundred and
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Speaker 1: sixty charges laid.
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Speaker 5: And I did hear the lady who owned that silveral
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Speaker 5: black Toyda land Cruise that got stolen and then stolen
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Speaker 5: again from mechanic and the scumb punks put their photo
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Speaker 5: on Facebook at the front of the car and you
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Speaker 5: could see from the car from a little bit of
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Speaker 5: the number plate. I mean, it's just outrageous. Half of
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Speaker 5: them were on bail and then half of them got
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Speaker 5: bail again.
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Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 5: So they are targeting the older cars obviously because it
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Speaker 5: hasn't got as many electronics or you know, fancy stuff
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Speaker 5: like they wouldn't be able to do it to Subaru's.
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Speaker 5: But these older cars, they're not hot worrying them. They
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Speaker 5: just got the ability. Because if you've got I don't know, PEPs,
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Speaker 5: I shouldn't say that.
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Speaker 1: Well, maybe don't tell us how to tell us about
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Speaker 1: the car keasy.
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Speaker 5: But the older cars are their targets. So people who
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Speaker 5: have older cars just be vigilant.
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Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 5: It's no good saying, oh, disconnect the battery, which the
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Speaker 5: police officer did, and I think that's fine. We'd sadly
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Speaker 5: just have to be more vigilant where we leave our keys,
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Speaker 5: where we put our keys, where we park our cars,
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Speaker 5: because they're being stolen from workshops. Well this is it's
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Speaker 5: not the mechanics job to bloody keep an eye on
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Speaker 5: his car. I mean it is, but like he can't
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Speaker 5: have or she can't have their eyes there everywhere. So
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Speaker 5: they knew that car went to that workshop, and that's
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Speaker 5: just so wrong.
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Speaker 1: It is, it's wrong on so many levels and I guess,
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Speaker 1: you know, the thing is, we've spoken so much about
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Speaker 1: crime throughout this year, but even throughout the week, I
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Speaker 1: know of another person that I know had their car
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Speaker 1: stolen in Bayview. I know that there ended up being
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Speaker 1: a crime or a meeting, I think in Bayview overnight,
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Speaker 1: because there is obviously concerns that are being raised from
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Speaker 1: the community because you've literally got people who've got vision
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Speaker 1: then of young will they look like kids inside their
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Speaker 1: homes going through their stuff and then stealing their cars.
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Speaker 1: The thing that I've found really quite disturbing on a
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Speaker 1: number of instances as well is that they seem to
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Speaker 1: be armed with knives in some situations, which is bloody frightening.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I went to the Bayview crime meeting that
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Speaker 2: they held last night and it was a really good turnout,
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Speaker 2: considering the weather was pretty wet. And you know, those
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Speaker 2: people who live in Bayview, I don't think that they
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Speaker 2: usually go through this. You know, they are now experiencing
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Speaker 2: the crime crisis just like the rest of the territory,
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Speaker 2: and especially about their cars. And you're right, kids, you're like,
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Speaker 2: you know to they were talking with each other about
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Speaker 2: being really vigilant, but they were just really frustrated at
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Speaker 2: the fact that they're even having to have this meeting,
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Speaker 2: and this is the eighth meeting that has been held
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Speaker 2: across the territory in only five months. And it is
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Speaker 2: sad that there was no one from labor that could
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Speaker 2: come that we're from the government, because I think that
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Speaker 2: it would have been great to be able to hear
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Speaker 2: those stories so that they realized that what they're doing
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Speaker 2: is just not working. And you know, we know that
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Speaker 2: territorians believe that they're not being heard, that they are
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Speaker 2: out of touch, and that things need to change.
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Speaker 3: I think that the acknowledgment from our government that there's
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Speaker 3: a host of work that continues to need to be done,
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Speaker 3: that to say that we're not listening is just not
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Speaker 3: the truth. Like to you look at Alice Springs, you
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Speaker 3: look at right across the territory, there is absolutely a
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Speaker 3: host of work being done.
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Speaker 4: There still needs to be more done.
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Speaker 3: There's absolute acknowledgment that some of these rates and people
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Speaker 3: that are in town at the moment, they just don't have.
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Speaker 4: Regard for the law. That's that's the really troubling.
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Speaker 3: Part is what is the is a disincentive for people
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Speaker 3: if they don't fear the police, if they don't fear
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Speaker 3: getting caught, if they don't fear going to jail. So
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Speaker 3: we'll absolutely continue to do everything that we can. You saw,
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Speaker 3: you know, forty odd coppers going to Alice Springs recently
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Speaker 3: and still you know a number of events down there,
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Speaker 3: So it's certainly something we're aware of, Certainly something will
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Speaker 3: continue to work on. But it's just a real change
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Speaker 3: and if you go into state, if you look at
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Speaker 3: news from Indo State, it's not just here. It's just
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Speaker 3: a change in society very recent Townsville.
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Speaker 1: I do acknowledge that there's definitely in other parts of
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Speaker 1: Australia when it comes to youth crime and when it
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Speaker 1: comes to the issues that are being experienced around the place.
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Speaker 1: But I think when it comes to the level of
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Speaker 1: antisocial behavior as well that we're experiencing here and public
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Speaker 1: drunkenness and then the on flow of that public drunkenness,
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Speaker 1: I don't think that you see it when you walk
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Speaker 1: around Cans in the same way. I grew up in
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Speaker 1: Townsville and Cans and I know that things have changed
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Speaker 1: in recent years, but there isn't that same level of
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Speaker 1: absolute anti social behavior around the place.
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Speaker 2: Are actually genuinely fearing for their lives from this antisocial behavior.
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Speaker 2: I mean years and years ago, I remember going to
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Speaker 2: Casarina Square and feeling like, oh, you know, someone's asked
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Speaker 2: me for something, I've said no and then they walk away.
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Speaker 2: Now when you say no, they beat you up like
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Speaker 2: they absolutely aw your car, steal it anyway exactly, and
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Speaker 2: they don't care who it is. It could be a child,
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Speaker 2: it could be a senior person. It's just not a caman.
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Speaker 2: Businesses are getting smashed up at the cost of crime.
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Speaker 2: So are our local councils, our car owners and some
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Speaker 2: of the taxpayers. I mean, when's it going to stop?
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Speaker 1: We can you just take you to as well. On Monday,
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Speaker 1: we did have a situation where the police were calling
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Speaker 1: for witnesses following an alleged indecent assault that had occurred
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Speaker 1: in Perap So that happened just after five o'clock in
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Speaker 1: the morning and a woman was walking along the Stewart
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Speaker 1: Highway when she was approached by an unknown man. The
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Speaker 1: woman briefly engaged with the man before continuing to walk
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Speaker 1: towards the parap Road, where the man then grabbed the
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Speaker 1: woman from behind. Now struggles then occurred. Before the pair
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Speaker 1: fell to the ground, the man indecently assaulted the woman. Luckily,
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Speaker 1: nearby witnesses intervened and the offender fled towards Parat Road.
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Speaker 1: As far as I understand that the police are still
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Speaker 1: searching for that person. One three, one, triple four is
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Speaker 1: the number if you've got any information. But I think
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Speaker 1: you know we've got to. We do have a situation
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Speaker 1: at the moment in the territory where there's no doubt
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Speaker 1: we've got the element of youth crime.
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Speaker 5: There's two parts to a k there's I think anyway,
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Speaker 5: probably many parts, but there's two clear major parts. There's
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Speaker 5: the car theft by young people and using it for
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Speaker 5: their own vicarious entertainment and recklessness and damage and theft,
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Speaker 5: et cetera. And we know that there's a lot of
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Speaker 5: these young, youngish and not so youngest people are coming
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Speaker 5: in from what I to do these kind of crimes
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Speaker 5: and then taking the vehicles out there. Then you've got
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Speaker 5: the component of what you're saying is the social upheaval,
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Speaker 5: the drunken behavior in the city that perhaps you know, bludging.
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Speaker 1: Of people and then attacking them.
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Speaker 5: So they're all crimes, but this car business and this
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Speaker 5: stealing and ramming and doing reckless things on the road
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Speaker 5: is one part, and then it's the other part, and
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Speaker 5: then there's subsets. But I think there's a fundament, there's
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Speaker 5: a fundamental thing in common, and that is lawlessness. And
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Speaker 5: they have no fear, as you said, Paul, no fear
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Speaker 5: of the law or police officers, and they just keep
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Speaker 5: going through a turnstile because of the bail laws. Which
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Speaker 5: I agree with the opposition on is the bail laws
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Speaker 5: need to be changed.
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Speaker 2: You're evolving door of bolving door, that's right, and there's
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Speaker 2: no clear there's no clear and immediate consequences, and that's
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Speaker 2: what's needed to happen, because, like you said, any consequence
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Speaker 2: of any crime, even a first time offender, if there's
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Speaker 2: a clear consequence, even if it is something like painting
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Speaker 2: some graffitio or something, or cleaning up some rubbish, whatever
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Speaker 2: it is, work on something. At the moment, there is
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Speaker 2: literally nothing that happens.
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Speaker 3: You've had Chancy Pate in here very recently talking about
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Speaker 3: some of the changes that are being made, some of
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Speaker 3: the programs that are continuing to be worked on. What
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Speaker 3: we do know is if you lock these young kids
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Speaker 3: up with hardened criminals right from the get go. It
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Speaker 3: has a really negative effect on their entire life. So
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Speaker 3: it is a tough problem. It's stuff that will continue
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Speaker 3: to work through.
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Speaker 2: I didn't even mentioned looking up. I said a consequence
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Speaker 2: being something of a description.
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Speaker 1: Though from U Curbs because obviously you the CBD is
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Speaker 1: part of your electorate. Even throughout the week, we saw
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Speaker 1: a situation where at John John's, you know, just really
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Speaker 1: unnecessary behavior where you know, somebody has jumped across their
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Speaker 1: little fence that they've got there. They've got beautiful Christmas
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Speaker 1: decorations up. These kids are then stabbing.
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Speaker 2: The Christmas and then hiding them back in their path, and.
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Speaker 1: You just go, like, to me, that is an absolute
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Speaker 1: demonstration of unnecessary behavior, unnecessary, unwarranted behavior, but then an
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Speaker 1: absolute lack of care that they're going to get in trouble.
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Speaker 4: And we'll get caught.
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Speaker 3: Obviously a really poignant picture into what must be going
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Speaker 3: on at home. If they've got absolutely no respect for
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Speaker 3: anybody else's belongings, then that starts at home. And there's
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Speaker 3: a mountain of work that you have to do to
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Speaker 3: try and turn those sort of behaviors around. But yeah,
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Speaker 3: people know, you know, from from twenty sixteen, we're putting
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Speaker 3: on extra coppers with extra security around the city, with
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Speaker 3: extra lighting and different patrols, reinvesting in Laroche and Nation
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Speaker 3: and patrols like that.
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Speaker 4: Like the city did get better for for a.
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Speaker 3: Long long time, and now we know there's a lot
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Speaker 3: of people that are in town that are living rough
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Speaker 3: at the moment, and that does create some.
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Speaker 4: Issues as well. It is cycling cyclic.
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Speaker 3: Like there is a large range of stuff going on
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Speaker 3: at the moment. It's just stuff that will continue.
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Speaker 4: To do the hard yard.
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Speaker 2: Joleng just don't feel they don't feel the hope though
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Speaker 2: that I mean the talk that we hear from the
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Speaker 2: government is only one thing. We don't see any action
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Speaker 2: and that's not the case.
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Speaker 4: Marine.
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Speaker 3: You know that there's more coppers on the beat now
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Speaker 3: than there ever has been, the more we've invested like
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Speaker 3: a third more into the police budget.
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Speaker 4: So to say that there is nothing being done is.
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Speaker 1: Now absolutely generously sketching them.
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Speaker 5: Police are usually they're they're preventative, of course, and that's
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Speaker 5: where we need them on the beat, preventatives. So people
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Speaker 5: got ship cops here but not do this. But most
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Speaker 5: of the time the police are picking up after the crime.
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Speaker 2: Well, and we go back to the bail laws. You know,
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Speaker 2: if they were there, then maybe this wouldn't be I
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Speaker 2: think that.
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Speaker 1: We've got to enter twenty twenty three. Like honestly, I
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Speaker 1: know the government have said that this is a priority,
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Speaker 1: but I think entering twenty twenty three, we've got to
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Speaker 1: acknowledge that the issues that we've got around crime at
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Speaker 1: the moment are holding us back, and they are holding
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Speaker 1: us back. When you've got the licen of Fitch, that's
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Speaker 1: exactly right. When you've been the life of Sentinel who've
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Speaker 1: purchased Casuarina Square saying that they are spending an enormous
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Speaker 1: amount of money they're holding next week, they've got, you know,
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Speaker 1: the opportunity for staff that work at the shopping center
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Speaker 1: to be able to gather at a gathering point to
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Speaker 1: get to their cars supervised so that they feel safe.
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Speaker 1: That's an issue, absolutely.
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Speaker 3: But let's keep in mind as well, Sentinel are the
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Speaker 3: group that have invested almost half a billion dollars very
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Speaker 3: recently into the Northern Territory. So understand what you're saying
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Speaker 3: that it is distressing and will.
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Speaker 4: Absolutely contend it to work.
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Speaker 3: Said, but they are engasing up to half a billion dollars,
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Speaker 3: so to say that it's stopping the territory from moving ahead,
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Speaker 3: we will continue to do that hard work and there's
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Speaker 3: a mountain of work that's going into that Casuarina area.
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Speaker 1: I didn't say it's stopping us. I said it's holding
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Speaker 1: us back. And I do maintain that I reckon it's
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Speaker 1: holding us back because I do think that once you
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Speaker 1: get here and you go, oh goodness, met like Sentinel
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Speaker 1: have done, and they're saying this is the worst antisocial
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Speaker 1: and crime that we've got across any of the shopping
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Speaker 1: centers that we've got around the nation, that's not something
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Speaker 1: for us to be proud of.
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Speaker 2: And when casuin a Square is spending two and a
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Speaker 2: half million dollar dollars of a year on security to
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Speaker 2: try and alleviate these young offenders, which just keeps escalating.
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Speaker 2: The labour's answer to that was to raise the age
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Speaker 2: of criminal responsibility because the youth offenders don't know what
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Speaker 2: they're doing, and yet these same people like they hide.
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Speaker 1: Machetes, they do know what they're doing.
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Speaker 2: They do know they're hiding machetes and then they're using
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Speaker 2: that to attack people my goodness.
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Speaker 5: I get it that they're you know, people humans between
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Speaker 5: you know, sort of I don't know, you know, one
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Speaker 5: to five, you know, yeah, not much consequences. But you
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Speaker 5: can't tell me a kid that's eleven or twelve. Okay,
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Speaker 5: they might be a faz d kid. They might have
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Speaker 5: poor education or no education, might have health issues. I
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Speaker 5: get all that, but you can't tell me in that
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Speaker 5: little pea brain they have some understanding of stealing a
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Speaker 5: car and holding a life at a service station is
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Speaker 5: not right.
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Speaker 1: I do think I certainly acknowledge the points that you know,
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Speaker 1: that Kirby was making earlier, that you have been talking about, absolutely,
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Speaker 1: but also that we are talking about, you know, a
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Speaker 1: situation where, like you'd said, Kurbs, you know, if there
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Speaker 1: are children who are slashing those Christmas decorations, what's going
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Speaker 1: on at home and why are they you know, lashing
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Speaker 1: out in that way and behaving in that way. But
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Speaker 1: we've also got laws, and we've also got different rules
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Speaker 1: that everybody need to needs to follow as a society.
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Speaker 1: And at the moment it does feel like there's that
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Speaker 1: breaking down of you know, of those rules in a.
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Speaker 2: Society over time with this labor government, have been watered
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Speaker 2: down and if they're not focusing on the problem at
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Speaker 2: home to try and resolve it, and our situation is
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Speaker 2: now worse because we genuinely have people who are fearing
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Speaker 2: for their lives and they are genuinely packing up and leaving.
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Speaker 4: If that was true, why are jails overcrowded?
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Speaker 1: Because people are.
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Speaker 3: Breaking the law and being sent and because so you
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Speaker 3: acknowledge that people are getting pulled up, that people that
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Speaker 3: do the wrong thing are being found. The talk about
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Speaker 3: recently of fifteen people and how long the police will
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Speaker 3: track these people down and there will be consequences for that, But.
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Speaker 1: Yes, I'm keen to know then. So from the government's perspective,
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Speaker 1: if you guys feel as though, all right, the jails
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Speaker 1: are full, and they are full, there is no doubt
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Speaker 1: about that the police are doing their jobs and capturing
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Speaker 1: people that are breaking the laws, and that we've got
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Speaker 1: to change our approach. What Look, what is the answer
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Speaker 1: right now then to curb the issues that we're seeing
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Speaker 1: because our crime stats are on the rise. Unfortunately they're
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Speaker 1: not getting better based on those year on year stats.
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Speaker 2: From what we get from we'll talk about the consequences
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Speaker 2: being clear and immediate from the outset, even for first
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Speaker 2: time offenders, and that's not locking them up, that is
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Speaker 2: them going into work programs. I mean, this government promised
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Speaker 2: before the last election that they were going to do that.
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Speaker 2: They have not done that. The programs they have are limited,
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Speaker 2: they are voluntary. Kids don't have to go through that
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Speaker 2: they don't want to and that's just not okay.
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Speaker 3: There absolutely are programs and will continue to work on
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Speaker 3: making sure that there are more programs to put kids
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Speaker 3: into because yes, we can't lock them up with hard
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Speaker 3: and criminals.
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Speaker 4: They do need to understand and do need.
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Speaker 1: To learn nail, but do you reckon That's the key
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Speaker 1: then from next year as well, I mean, is that
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Speaker 1: the focus from the government that there does need to
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Speaker 1: be an expansion of those programs and that there does
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Speaker 1: really need to be a focus on, you know, having
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Speaker 1: an impact here.
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Speaker 3: What I can guarantee is every week that Cabinet meets,
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Speaker 3: it's a discussion that we have about what are we
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Speaker 3: doing about how we looking at people that are trespassing,
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Speaker 3: how are we looking at people that are doing the
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Speaker 3: wrong things, how are we looking at young kids, how
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Speaker 3: are we looking at programs that they get into.
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Speaker 4: We've got workers shortages at the moment.
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Speaker 3: How we looking at getting these kids into programs, how
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Speaker 3: we looking at giving them the best opportunities to get
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Speaker 3: a job and to change their lives. So it is
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Speaker 3: the biggest problem that we look at. It is the
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Speaker 3: biggest problem that we look at, and we're discussing it
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Speaker 3: every week with police, with all of those wrap around services.
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Speaker 3: You've seen those Social order response teams that we've put
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Speaker 3: into place to try and help address with that. So
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Speaker 3: that all of territory, families and all of the police
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Speaker 3: are all working on these problems as a combined issue.
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Speaker 4: It's a mountain of work to do. We'll continue to
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Speaker 4: do it.
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Speaker 1: Look, we are going to have to take a bit
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Speaker 1: of a break. You are listening to mix one oh
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Speaker 1: four nine's three sixty. It is the week that was've
16:39
Speaker 1: been at Merry Christmas cheer at the end there if
16:41
Speaker 1: you've just joined us, we've got the ALP's Paul Kirby,
16:44
Speaker 1: Independent Keziapuric and the colp's Marie Claire Boothby. Now we
16:48
Speaker 1: know that well. After a month long negotiation period, the
16:52
Speaker 1: Darwin Festival has rejected an offer of funding from a
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Speaker 1: philanthropists if the board agreed to dump its contest did
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Speaker 1: fossil fuel sponsorships following years of lobbying from artists and
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Speaker 1: traditional owners. Now, while Santos has already walked away amid
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Speaker 1: continued criticism of the role in the festival, the board
17:12
Speaker 1: has doubled down on its remaining fossil fuel sponsorships. Is
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Speaker 1: how it's being reported. So in a letter obviously to
17:20
Speaker 1: the Darwin Festival, the philanthropists have urged the board to
17:24
Speaker 1: reconsider their position, saying we're disappointed that your initial response
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Speaker 1: to our offer is to reject a collaborative approach to
17:31
Speaker 1: ensuring the sustainable future direction of the darw And Festival.
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Speaker 1: But look the way I see it is it may
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Speaker 1: indeed be some funding, but there's a lot of strings attached.
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Speaker 1: And you're talking about an independent board trying to run
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Speaker 1: that festival. I used to be on the board.
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Speaker 4: I know how hard it is and how close to
17:50
Speaker 4: the bone they.
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Speaker 5: It's what they've done, and good on in Ce. Tell
17:54
Speaker 5: them bloody Grinny left him. Mob to this or back
17:56
Speaker 5: down south. You don't need them and we.
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Speaker 1: Don't want them. Tell us a really clearly.
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Speaker 5: The Darwin Festival Board doesn't want them either because there
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Speaker 5: was way too many strings attached. And that woman was
18:06
Speaker 5: on TV the other night. She looks like she needs
18:08
Speaker 5: a good feed of meat.
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Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 1: The thing is it's hot. It is body hard work
18:13
Speaker 1: to run that, you know, to run that festival and
18:15
Speaker 1: the management of that festival, and you know the crew
18:19
Speaker 1: there do a phenomenal job.
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Speaker 5: They really they held them to ransom and that is
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Speaker 5: no way to form a collaborative partnership. She needs to
18:27
Speaker 5: get a dictionary, that woman and look up the definition
18:29
Speaker 5: of collaborative, because that is not the way to do
18:32
Speaker 5: it is to say you will do this, you will do.
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Speaker 1: This, and you will do this, then we might give
18:36
Speaker 1: you money.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely too many strings attached, and they do they do
18:39
Speaker 3: a mountain of work. You know, from twenty sixteen when
18:42
Speaker 3: we came in, that was almost in receivership.
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Speaker 4: The festival has grown and grown and grown.
18:47
Speaker 3: Over recent years direction and it's from those people from
18:52
Speaker 3: private enterprise in conjunction with major events doing that hard
18:55
Speaker 3: work to get it up and running.
18:57
Speaker 4: And it is disappointing.
18:58
Speaker 3: What I went to an APS like the Petroleum Industry
19:01
Speaker 3: conference a few years ago, and they will absolutely admit
19:04
Speaker 3: that gas is a transition industry. In ten years time,
19:07
Speaker 3: we'll be having different discussions around renewables and all of
19:11
Speaker 3: those things. Maybe we can get Twiggy to invest in the.
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Speaker 1: Maybe into the Hancock. Yes, yes, yeah, yeah, see.
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Speaker 4: She does mining. So is that a loud or as well?
19:22
Speaker 1: You see, this is the thing if it's had the
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Speaker 1: hard rock mining.
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Speaker 5: Okay, what if a sexy gold miner came along and said,
19:28
Speaker 5: we want to invest in the Darance Festival because our
19:30
Speaker 5: values aligne et cetera, et cetera.
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Speaker 1: Was that going to be acceptable?
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Speaker 2: Well?
19:33
Speaker 1: And this this is the whole point, isn't it that
19:36
Speaker 1: it's you know that there were so many strings attached.
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Speaker 5: What about a quarry industry, like I don't know, We've
19:43
Speaker 5: got lots of major extractive operators up here, you know,
19:46
Speaker 5: gold boys like the Baby, you know, the Ostrigen, successful,
19:50
Speaker 5: great company, you know, so where does where does this
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Speaker 5: greeny mob draw the line?
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Speaker 1: But also you know, like you touched on their curves
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Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen and festival was almost at the point
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Speaker 1: where it wasn't going to be able to continue on.
20:04
Speaker 1: So now it's at the point where it's had the
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Speaker 1: most successful year it's ever had. That's exactly right. And
20:11
Speaker 1: so now all of a sudden, somebody wants to you
20:14
Speaker 1: to be involved and to yeah, and you go that
20:16
Speaker 1: I just don't think that's right. When so much hard
20:19
Speaker 1: work has gone in over the years, over such an
20:22
Speaker 1: incredibly long period of time, and had no.
20:25
Speaker 2: Fault of their own. They have literally been put into
20:27
Speaker 2: a lose situation, and of course it's all because of
20:30
Speaker 2: the collateral damage of these activists. It's terrible.
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Speaker 1: Well, and I will read you the statement that the
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Speaker 1: board sent out. They said, the Board recognizes that it
20:37
Speaker 1: is due to the support of sponsors that Darwin Festival
20:40
Speaker 1: is able to stage a world class festival, and would
20:43
Speaker 1: like to express their appreciation to Original Power for coming
20:46
Speaker 1: to them with the offer of sponsorship. There were some
20:49
Speaker 1: non negotiable terms and conditions set out in the offer
20:52
Speaker 1: that could have had wider implications to the independence and
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Speaker 1: operations of the festival, and attempts by the Board to
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Speaker 1: enter into negotiations around these terms were declined. After careful consideration,
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Speaker 1: the Board have made the decision to decline the sponsorship
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Speaker 1: offer put forward by Original Power. The festival's future is
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Speaker 1: secure and we look forward to sharing our twenty twenty
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Speaker 1: three program in the new year, and it sounds like.
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Speaker 2: That the board do are a great job and that
21:18
Speaker 2: I'm sure they have it under control, which is great,
21:20
Speaker 2: but it is still a risk. I mean, if you
21:22
Speaker 2: look at Victoria, what happened there with the netballers and
21:25
Speaker 2: how that sponsorship was pulled, and I believe the Victorian
21:28
Speaker 2: government are now coughing up that money. So it's taxpayers
21:31
Speaker 2: and we just don't want to be in that situation
21:32
Speaker 2: here at Darlot. It is a success. We need it
21:34
Speaker 2: to continue to be a success, and it can come
21:36
Speaker 2: from private industry.
21:37
Speaker 5: And that's where private industry. If you know, people go
21:40
Speaker 5: to that festival wall shapes and sizes and walks of life,
21:44
Speaker 5: but maybe they have to come to the party.
21:46
Speaker 1: But that's up to the board to approach. Gooper Companish.
21:48
Speaker 5: But every major event that runs on sponsorship, like the
21:53
Speaker 5: Dawn Show, like Fred's Pass Show, you know, they've always
21:55
Speaker 5: had a certain amount of risk element to them. You know,
21:57
Speaker 5: if we went into a financial slump, the financial crisis
22:00
Speaker 5: some years ago, companies just pull back on those kind
22:04
Speaker 5: of expenses because it's not really core business. So you know,
22:07
Speaker 5: sponsorship is a tough gig to secure and to retain
22:11
Speaker 5: because you and that's why the WOD collaborative is so important.
22:14
Speaker 5: You actually form a partnership with the sponsor, and there's
22:17
Speaker 5: got to be returns to them, whether it be sort
22:18
Speaker 5: of philanthropic return or whether they get exposure for that
22:21
Speaker 5: social license.
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Speaker 3: If people want to in the Northern Territory, they need
22:25
Speaker 3: to invest in the community and things like that.
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Speaker 5: They're the ones that support the industry and business.
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Speaker 2: And they're going to be here anyway. I mean, Santas
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Speaker 2: to a truckload of work here in the territory.
22:34
Speaker 1: So you come back, Santos.
22:35
Speaker 2: But they should, they should invest and they are trying
22:39
Speaker 2: and then this happens.
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Speaker 1: Well, just on that, I do just want to say
22:41
Speaker 1: that we know that the National Gas you know, there
22:45
Speaker 1: was the agreement throughout federal Parliament through the week, and
22:47
Speaker 1: Santos has slammed the Albanzy government and accused it of
22:51
Speaker 1: running a Soviet style nationalization policy after Labor pushed through
22:56
Speaker 1: the controversial set of intervention measures designed to cut prices.
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Speaker 1: So they're obviously concerned. The energy producer which owns that
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Speaker 1: stake in Queensience GLNG Gas Project export Projects, said that
23:07
Speaker 1: the heavy handed approach by the Prime Minister had put
23:10
Speaker 1: Australia on par with authoritarian regimes. Now I don't know
23:15
Speaker 1: whether that's the case or not. I don't know enough
23:17
Speaker 1: about it. But what I wonder is whether it's going
23:19
Speaker 1: to have any impact in terms of the Beaterloo project
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Speaker 1: here in the Northern Territory with the legislation.
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Speaker 5: I do think it should be Katie because Beaterloo is
23:27
Speaker 5: the production and the supply of gas two.
23:31
Speaker 2: I think it just gres to that uncertainty though around.
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Speaker 3: Can I just when we put the regulations in place
23:37
Speaker 3: for that onshore gas industry to start, we had the
23:40
Speaker 3: heads of Santos and other big businesses.
23:42
Speaker 4: They are businesses.
23:43
Speaker 3: They don't like extra costs, they don't like extra regulations.
23:47
Speaker 4: But you know what, they're still here.
23:49
Speaker 3: They've told us that we have the toughest regulations that
23:52
Speaker 3: they have to work through anywhere in the world. And
23:54
Speaker 3: they're still here.
23:56
Speaker 4: And so it makes it safer.
23:57
Speaker 3: It makes it better for the consumers in the long
24:00
Speaker 3: run than it makes it better for territories.
24:02
Speaker 4: But they will still stay here and do business.
24:03
Speaker 1: I agree with Paul, but on that point.
24:05
Speaker 5: But this the National Sea, sorry, the Eastern Seaboard, and
24:10
Speaker 5: their current energy. CHRISTI crisis supply, I think is a
24:14
Speaker 5: separate issue to the supply of gas from the bable.
24:18
Speaker 5: I mean there's enough, as I think I said in
24:20
Speaker 5: Parliament in a speech, there's five hundred approximately trillion cubic feet.
24:24
Speaker 5: And for people listening to put it in perspective, black
24:26
Speaker 5: tip gas is one trillion cubic feet. So there's just
24:29
Speaker 5: so much, and that's what they know at the moment.
24:32
Speaker 5: There's nothing to suggest there isn't more gas in another
24:35
Speaker 5: geological formation nearby. But I don't know much about what
24:39
Speaker 5: Albanizi government's done, and.
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Speaker 1: I will check it out.
24:42
Speaker 5: But as I think Paul mentioned, what companies want, whether
24:45
Speaker 5: it be a patrolling all gas mining company or any
24:47
Speaker 5: business for that mine is they want dead set certainty
24:50
Speaker 5: and they don't want restraints of trade. I know when
24:53
Speaker 5: Western Australia bought in the gas reservation policy where the
24:56
Speaker 5: companies have to reserve a certain amount of gas for
24:59
Speaker 5: emergency christ problems in the in the West, there was
25:01
Speaker 5: huge resistance.
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Speaker 1: Now good on the WO.
25:03
Speaker 5: Government for pushing through and they came to an arrangement
25:06
Speaker 5: with the companies. We don't have that up here, but
25:08
Speaker 5: some governments would like to have that it's too laid
25:11
Speaker 5: up here, but it sounds like it's a bit like that.
25:13
Speaker 5: What Albanize is doing is they're putting restraints upon the
25:15
Speaker 5: companies and how they must operate, which is which is
25:19
Speaker 5: not right, it's not I don't believe.
25:21
Speaker 2: Really need people to have their lights on. I mean,
25:23
Speaker 2: that's the end of the day.
25:23
Speaker 1: There needs to be Peter's down there. Yeah, well, look
25:27
Speaker 1: we will take a bit of a break. You are
25:28
Speaker 1: listening to Mix one O four nine's three sixty eight
25:31
Speaker 1: is the week that was in the studio with us
25:33
Speaker 1: this morning, Paul Kirby, Keesier Purick and Marie Claire Boothby.
25:36
Speaker 1: And we do know this. Last week we spoke about
25:39
Speaker 1: the ship left facility and some of the concerns after
25:43
Speaker 1: Cloff Group had gone into into administration. But the situation
25:48
Speaker 1: is here now that obviously the c orp have referred
25:53
Speaker 1: or they want to refer the ship lift project to
25:55
Speaker 1: the Public Accounts Committee following those concerns that value for
25:59
Speaker 1: territorians will not be realized if growing costs and the
26:02
Speaker 1: demise of one of those league contractors well as a
26:05
Speaker 1: result of that. So I know that the Shadow Minister
26:08
Speaker 1: for Infrastructure Planning and Logistics. Jared Maylee had written to
26:11
Speaker 1: the committee's chair, jol Bowden, to refer the project for
26:15
Speaker 1: inquiry as the shiplift ballooned from one hundred million dollars
26:19
Speaker 1: a one hundred million dollar project to more than half
26:21
Speaker 1: a billion dollars in just six years. So I don't
26:25
Speaker 1: know at this point in time whether it's going to
26:27
Speaker 1: go to the Public Accounts Committee or exactly what the
26:30
Speaker 1: situation is going to be. But I've got a message
26:32
Speaker 1: from Jerry Wood. How am mister Woods. I love it
26:35
Speaker 1: when Jerry gets in contact. Jerry see planning those trees.
26:38
Speaker 1: Jerry said, if talking about the Public Accounts Committee not
26:41
Speaker 1: being able to look at the shiplift, it is because
26:44
Speaker 1: the committee must get approval from the Assembly and of
26:46
Speaker 1: course the government runs the show. The Public Accounts Committee
26:49
Speaker 1: should be able to look at it at what it
26:51
Speaker 1: wants and have an independent chair as it was when
26:55
Speaker 1: we had the Committee of Territory Cooperation under Labor government.
27:00
Speaker 1: Now that would mean open and transparent government. So why
27:03
Speaker 1: doesn't this government do that or does it have something
27:06
Speaker 1: to hide?
27:08
Speaker 4: Jerry wants us to bring him back and make him
27:10
Speaker 4: the king maker because.
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Speaker 5: They're not open and transparent. It's simple, Jerry.
27:14
Speaker 3: There's absolutely Look, every project that is going on around
27:17
Speaker 3: the nation at the moment has gone up exponentially post COVID.
27:21
Speaker 3: Everybody knows supply chains are really tough. What's happened to
27:23
Speaker 3: Cloth is a separate set of circumstances. My intel is
27:26
Speaker 3: that it's through their involvement in the Snowy River project
27:31
Speaker 3: and there's been a massive expenditure and wa.
27:34
Speaker 5: In the pilbra It's and it's pulled them down.
27:37
Speaker 3: Like there's other interconnectors they're building in South Australia in
27:40
Speaker 3: the electrical industry. Like the really sad story is hundreds
27:44
Speaker 3: of people have just found out before before Christmas that
27:47
Speaker 3: their jobs are done. That's really really sad to be honest, Like,
27:51
Speaker 3: you know, we'll do what we have to do to
27:52
Speaker 3: get that project up and running and to make sure
27:54
Speaker 3: it gets off the ground, but it is really really
27:57
Speaker 3: tough for those families.
27:59
Speaker 1: I think it's a big project.
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Speaker 5: And we've talked about this before, Katie, and and I'm
28:04
Speaker 5: not an optimist that Cluff can come back from the
28:07
Speaker 5: receivership or administration, but time will tell. But I think,
28:10
Speaker 5: as we said before, the joint partner BMR or BMD,
28:14
Speaker 5: whichever it is. They may well be in discussions right now,
28:17
Speaker 5: but ultimately the client, which is the empty government, this
28:21
Speaker 5: is my view, they will probably have to come up
28:23
Speaker 5: with more money because it's the client's project and these
28:25
Speaker 5: people have been contracted to supply the project. So if
28:29
Speaker 5: one of the partners has gone down for whatever reason,
28:32
Speaker 5: then there'll be discussions as to how do we keep
28:34
Speaker 5: this project going forward. But I do believe that the client,
28:36
Speaker 5: being anti government, will have to come up with more money.
28:38
Speaker 2: Katie, I want to be clear the COLP actually support
28:40
Speaker 2: a ship lifts project. I mean this is a major
28:42
Speaker 2: project and we haven't seen any major projects get off
28:44
Speaker 2: the ground, so we absolutely support it. What is concerning,
28:47
Speaker 2: of course, is the budget blowout, like we've gone from
28:48
Speaker 2: one hundred million dollars to nearly half a billion. But
28:51
Speaker 2: even more concerning is the fact that Natasha Files has
28:54
Speaker 2: literally ruled out the watchdog, which is the public accounts
28:57
Speaker 2: can be that Jerry wood A leads to from looking
29:00
Speaker 2: at it all together, and that was within hours of
29:02
Speaker 2: Joel Bowden receiving that letter. To be able to the
29:07
Speaker 2: Assembly is call it's twenty five members of Parliament. So
29:09
Speaker 2: the fact that she just says straight out nope, we're
29:11
Speaker 2: not going to look at it. It disregards every kind
29:13
Speaker 2: of parliamentary process and democracy that we have. I mean,
29:16
Speaker 2: there's a reason we have these scrutiny committees, and I
29:19
Speaker 2: mean we see we've seen them in the last two years,
29:21
Speaker 2: a road that's scrutiny, with cancelations of scrutiny committees and
29:26
Speaker 2: less questions for opposition questions, not accepting center motions time
29:30
Speaker 2: after time, knocking back select committees. They just what is
29:32
Speaker 2: it that they're hiding? And it's really clear to territoriess
29:35
Speaker 2: they are hiding something. I mean, we get questioned on
29:37
Speaker 2: this stuff all of the time. We go into Parliament
29:40
Speaker 2: representing Territorians who talk to us about what they want
29:42
Speaker 2: us to talk to the government about, and the government
29:44
Speaker 2: just says nothing to see here, We're not going to
29:46
Speaker 2: talk about it.
29:47
Speaker 1: I mean, do you think that it's fair for it
29:49
Speaker 1: to actually be looked into. There's no harm in the
29:51
Speaker 1: Public Accounts Committee having a look into this ship lived
29:54
Speaker 1: to making sure that it is value for Territorians dollars,
29:57
Speaker 1: because let's be honest, it's taxpayers money.
30:00
Speaker 3: There will be a mountain of work that has to
30:01
Speaker 3: go into making sure that that project can get back
30:04
Speaker 3: off the ground. Now, absolutely no doubt about that, and
30:06
Speaker 3: it is really tough. As I mentioned post COVID every
30:09
Speaker 3: big project that you do. Now the costs have gone through.
30:12
Speaker 3: If every flood that happens on the East Coast means
30:14
Speaker 3: that supply of equipment, machinery, staff, having workers, it's all
30:20
Speaker 3: going to be a problem into the future.
30:22
Speaker 1: That's the worry I suppose, so too is that if
30:25
Speaker 1: the cost is at half a billion dollars or five
30:27
Speaker 1: hundred hours, Yeah, now what's going to happen as those
30:30
Speaker 1: costs do blow out because presumably once you actually start,
30:35
Speaker 1: that's when you will see the further blowout.
30:37
Speaker 3: Well with people like probably almost a blessing in disguise
30:41
Speaker 3: that it's happened before the project started. If they were
30:44
Speaker 3: a third of the way into the project and something
30:46
Speaker 3: that has happened, it would be really, really difficult to
30:48
Speaker 3: work through. So it'll absolutely get off the ground. It'll
30:51
Speaker 3: absolutely be the best value for money that it can be,
30:54
Speaker 3: and that's why it was put together to be the
30:56
Speaker 3: size project that it is to attract vessels from all around.
31:00
Speaker 3: On the top end of Australia to make sure that
31:01
Speaker 3: it's got the best chance of surviving long term into
31:04
Speaker 3: the future.
31:05
Speaker 1: Cans Is it going to beat it?
31:06
Speaker 2: Are they?
31:06
Speaker 1: Because they?
31:09
Speaker 5: What what definitely will happen is it will cause delays,
31:12
Speaker 5: There's no doubt about it. How many delays and how
31:14
Speaker 5: long don't know. It depends on discussions between government and
31:17
Speaker 5: the business partners. But there will be delays and that
31:20
Speaker 5: can be a problem because our window of opportunities may
31:23
Speaker 5: well close because Ken's comes on board or are business looking.
31:27
Speaker 1: To have their ships?
31:28
Speaker 5: Would you call it cleaned and flushed out? Will go
31:30
Speaker 5: to Perth. Perth has a fabulous facility.
31:32
Speaker 4: But when you.
31:33
Speaker 3: Look at the size of the defense investment into the
31:36
Speaker 3: Darwin region that isn't going away in any short space
31:39
Speaker 3: of time. There will be massive opportunities for for shiplifting.
31:44
Speaker 2: Just because the government says that, though it doesn't mean
31:46
Speaker 2: territories are buying it. I mean we've seen this time.
31:48
Speaker 4: And time because we say that defense are investing.
31:50
Speaker 3: You don't believe the federal government defense are investing.
31:56
Speaker 5: But we need defense Navy investment for a ship lift,
31:59
Speaker 5: not not tank tanks aren't going into this ship lift
32:01
Speaker 5: and araplanes aren't going to this shiplift. We need the
32:03
Speaker 5: Navy increased investment.
32:05
Speaker 2: And a project of this side. It should be investigated,
32:09
Speaker 2: it should be looked at to make sure that it's
32:11
Speaker 2: not just the government saying it's going to be okay.
32:13
Speaker 2: We need businesses to have confidence about what's happening as well,
32:16
Speaker 2: and we're just not seeing that. I mean we've seen
32:18
Speaker 2: projects fall over time and time again. I mean look
32:20
Speaker 2: at the Sea Dragon and the prown fund that's still
32:21
Speaker 2: not happening. What's happening without not sure. There's a bunch
32:24
Speaker 2: of things we've got to road to nowhere, didn't they exactly?
32:26
Speaker 2: So we just there's no harm in it being looked at.
32:29
Speaker 2: It's a good thing for Territorians. They want that certainty.
32:31
Speaker 2: And the fact that Tasha Files has said no straight
32:33
Speaker 2: up without even thinking about it, is it goes to
32:36
Speaker 2: her transparency and accountability.
32:37
Speaker 5: Maybe she doesn't want the Parliament to sit at all.
32:39
Speaker 5: Maybe we should get rid of the parliament somewhat. Would
32:42
Speaker 5: have loved that someone wants to get rid of the
32:44
Speaker 5: American Constitution.
32:45
Speaker 2: Well never never yet questioned again, that's exactly what they
32:48
Speaker 2: would like.
32:48
Speaker 3: Well, you guys, ask yourselves questions in question time. Don't
32:51
Speaker 3: you slage us about who can ask who questions? Because
32:57
Speaker 3: when have you ever heard me decent questions from that position?
33:04
Speaker 1: We are going to take a very short break and
33:06
Speaker 1: when we come back, keen to get everybody's take. God,
33:09
Speaker 1: what have been the biggest stories, the biggest issues, maybe
33:11
Speaker 1: the biggest wins as well throughout twenty twenty two. It
33:14
Speaker 1: is the final week that was for twenty twenty two,
33:17
Speaker 1: and what a massive year it's been if you have
33:20
Speaker 1: just joined us. Of course, I've got Mariy Claire Booth,
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Speaker 1: big keasy Appearican Paul Kirby in the studio this morning,
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Speaker 1: and really there's been some big highs, some big lows,
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Speaker 1: lots of big expectations I think for twenty twenty three.
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Speaker 1: But I guess going through you know, what were the
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Speaker 1: biggest issues of the year, what were the biggest wins
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Speaker 1: of the year, and what your hopes are for next year?
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Speaker 1: I know, for me, I'd say that definitely the issue
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Speaker 1: that we've received the most interaction from listeners about on
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Speaker 1: a daily basis on this show has been the concerns
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Speaker 1: that we've had with crime and anti social behavior, and
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Speaker 1: you know that's been tough. It's been tough for a
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Speaker 1: lot of different businesses, and I really do hope that
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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three we do see some you know,
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Speaker 1: some light at the end of the tunnel and things
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Speaker 1: starting to get a bit better. But I've got to say,
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Speaker 1: for me, the biggest highlight for me every year and
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Speaker 1: every day really is the you know, is hearing from
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Speaker 1: genuine everyday Territorians, whether that's with their good stories, whether
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Speaker 1: it's with their sad stories. You know, they make me laugh,
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Speaker 1: they make me cry.
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Speaker 3: I think the resilience of territories, particularly when it's as
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Speaker 3: hot as it is now. The lead up to Christmas
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Speaker 3: in the territory is a won full time. It's a
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Speaker 3: great time to wish everyone Merry Christmas, but to look
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Speaker 3: back over like some of the events that we do
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Speaker 3: in the territory, from Alice Springs with PARTSMA and the
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Speaker 3: Melbourne Footy Club going there, to having two games now
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Speaker 3: in the Top End with Gold Coaster, to having some
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Speaker 3: amazing AFL players come and to play in the territory.
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Speaker 3: Every time we have those really big events that the
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Speaker 3: Salties we were just talking about how big an input
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Speaker 3: they have had to have the NBL come and play
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Speaker 3: here for the first time. That was fantastic. But it
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Speaker 3: really is the best place in the world to live.
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Speaker 3: We know it's a tough place at times sport up here.
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Speaker 5: I mean, we know we get a lot of the
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Speaker 5: teams from down south who are going somewhere fromn international
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Speaker 5: competition and they come up here as a as a
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Speaker 5: training ground to get used to heat whatever the heat
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Speaker 5: may be or wherever they're going. And I think in
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Speaker 5: the last little while we have the Olympians.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, at one point was that this year last year.
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Speaker 5: And the athletics check out at Marara has been brought
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Speaker 5: up to standard finally so we can have not only
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Speaker 5: our meats but national meets and potentially international meets.
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Speaker 1: So that's that's that's positive.
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Speaker 5: So I think I mean that Marara Complex generally, I
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Speaker 5: think it was set up usually by the COLP. That
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Speaker 5: is a fabulous complex. You know, there's no.
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Speaker 1: Direct and of course I think probably you know the
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Speaker 1: fact that.
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Speaker 5: COVID is sort of still around, but you know, we've
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Speaker 5: just learned to live with it a little bit better
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Speaker 5: and we're still very conscious of it. I mean, I've
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Speaker 5: got it coming back from overseas. Its the most dreadful illness.
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Speaker 5: But I think that we've still got to be conscious
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Speaker 5: of our space and try and keep COVID at a minimum.
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Speaker 5: And I think the health professionals and all the advice
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Speaker 5: that people give out, that's got to be a bonus.
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Speaker 5: I mean, I think that, as we all know, the
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Speaker 5: territory fared a lot better. My two nieces are up
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Speaker 5: for Christmas or ones come back to live here, and
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Speaker 5: they were looking at us. I think it was election
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Speaker 5: night too, whenever it was elections, and she was down
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Speaker 5: south watching it on TV and we were all hugging
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Speaker 5: each other and she was in longdown going what's going
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Speaker 5: on territory? So we definitely have not fared as badly
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Speaker 5: as the other place. And I think, you know, there's
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Speaker 5: lots of positives around here. We've had a crooked year
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Speaker 5: for lots of reasons. But I think, as Paul said,
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Speaker 5: you know, we're a resilient bunch and we've just got to.
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Speaker 4: Get opportunities in the Northern Territory.
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Speaker 1: Lif I've always been there, They've always been there.
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Speaker 3: You know, you've got kids that are growing up here,
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Speaker 3: and the opportunities that kids get here and the chances
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Speaker 3: that people get in their career and that you know,
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Speaker 3: we're going through some some tough EBA negotiation has got
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Speaker 3: one across the board with the teachers, with.
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Speaker 4: The teachers the other day. We continue to do that.
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Speaker 4: Do you come here for opportunity?
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Speaker 5: Talk about briefully the teachers have been offered whatever they've
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Speaker 5: been three plus plus where you can't go underneath that
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Speaker 5: for any other EBA you've actually got to match that
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Speaker 5: or go high police corrections.
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Speaker 1: You can't lower.
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Speaker 3: It's a two percent pay deal that they've been able
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Speaker 3: to find another percent within their bargaining wat.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt about it. What do you reckon a bit?
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Speaker 2: What's been Can I just add in there because I
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Speaker 2: didn't get to bud in then, on the back of
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Speaker 2: what Keiser and Paul said, like, I think, yeah, the
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Speaker 2: territory is a great place to live and of course
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Speaker 2: we do love living here. And I mean they see
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Speaker 2: your p opposition will continue to be out listening to territorians.
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Speaker 2: I mean we saw, you know, the Parliament exposed Labor
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Speaker 2: recently for their anti freedom of speech and anti faith
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Speaker 2: based schools legislation which they passed, and of course that
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Speaker 2: was completely out of touch with what territorians were looking
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Speaker 2: for and we saw that through rallies at them that
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Speaker 2: a lot of the faith based organizations we're having. We
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Speaker 2: also persistently stood up for our police and our community
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Speaker 2: by trying five different times to create an inquiry into
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Speaker 2: the policing and what's been happening with crime and police,
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Speaker 2: and it did get knocked back every time. But you know,
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Speaker 2: our promise to territories is luck we have been done
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Speaker 2: doing for a number of years. We will continue to
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Speaker 2: listen to them. We will continue to take the fight
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Speaker 2: to the labor government to ensure that they are heard,
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Speaker 2: no matter how hard the labor government make it for us.
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Speaker 5: The big issues for the year are the best issues.
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Speaker 1: Well, what do you reckon? Well, I reckon we had
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Speaker 1: a pretty good dry season. We did have a good
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Speaker 1: change chief ministers. Now we changed chief minutes a week
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Speaker 1: of different things.
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Speaker 2: Wins. Actually it was a win and now it's a
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Speaker 2: loss because we have even did you say that about mind, Natasha?
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Speaker 1: I know you like Natasha Katie. The interesting thing is legislation.
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Speaker 5: See that Michael Gunner still has Instagram post charity chief.
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Speaker 1: Now what's going on? There's anymore the chief of his
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Speaker 1: own household. Maybe maybe you met Christy Christie, she's the chief.
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Speaker 1: Well look, it's it has certainly been a massive year,
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Speaker 1: you know, no matter how you look at it. But
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Speaker 1: what I think the really important point is that we
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Speaker 1: do have such a resilient bunch of Territorians. And one
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Speaker 1: thing that I've loved absolutely and the thing that I
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Speaker 1: always love is that when somebody goes through a tough time,
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Speaker 1: what we see immediately on the phone lines in this
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Speaker 1: studio is other Territorians stepping up and going, hey, I'm.
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Speaker 2: Prepared to help.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, giving out gifts or like people who that lady,
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Speaker 5: who's your girl?
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Speaker 1: Got it with the rock? Yesay to the young girl.
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Speaker 5: Yeah you're right. Territories say, yep, I'll help them.
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Speaker 3: He doesn't matter what industry or if it's just members
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Speaker 3: of the public, like people diging behind each other in
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Speaker 3: the Northern Territory like nowhere else. I recon just the
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Speaker 3: storms in our springs recently and people just walk in
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Speaker 3: the streets with James AU's clearing.
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Speaker 4: Trees and it's an amazing place. We live in the
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Speaker 4: best place.
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Speaker 1: What are your hopes for twenty twenty three? Before I
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Speaker 1: let you all go fearing better? Territory and mb all side.
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Speaker 2: I want our community to feel safer, Katie. I mean
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Speaker 2: we talk about it all the time. There's not scared.
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Speaker 2: There's a lot of changes that can happen. I mean
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Speaker 2: we've seen it with our children and our seniors and
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Speaker 2: we just want them to feel safe.
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Speaker 5: I would like the white ants to stop eating my
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Speaker 5: trees at home.
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Speaker 1: What about for the wider community? For the wider community, okay.
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Speaker 5: I would actually like the government to take on a
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Speaker 5: CeNSE of motion one time and let's be scared once,
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Speaker 5: just once.
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Speaker 2: I think we tried. I think we tried seven.
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Speaker 1: Chris Burns was the leader of Government Business.
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Speaker 5: He would get up and say, yeap will take the
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Speaker 5: censure and then they got up and had their say,
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Speaker 5: and this opposition had their say, and maybe Jerry Woold.
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Speaker 1: Had his say. So don't be scaredy cats.
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Speaker 5: Take on the centre, you know, set up select committees,
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Speaker 5: select committees and committees of the parliament. They're not a
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Speaker 5: government committee, you know. And the recommendation is good or bad.
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Speaker 5: You don't have to excess open and transparency and then
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Speaker 5: don't understand the parliamentary process is better.
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Speaker 1: So that's Mike, we.
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Speaker 3: Need to understand you at least we have pasted hundreds
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Speaker 3: of pieces of legislation to many opposition months and months
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Speaker 3: and months to even try and get.
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Speaker 4: A billboard in. We understand the process.
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Speaker 1: If you were in opposition, you had to I'm offended
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Speaker 1: by that. I'm going to take exactly to that Department
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Speaker 1: of hurt feelings. I'm Another hope that I've got for
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three is that instead of our Polly's getting
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Speaker 1: offended by each other and by different things that are
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Speaker 1: being raised, is for you all to you know, to
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Speaker 1: understand that they are issues that everyday Territorians care about.
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Speaker 1: While you may not like them, or while you may
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Speaker 1: not like the different issues that are being raised, you know,
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Speaker 1: you've got to make sure that you listen to them
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Speaker 1: because they're genuine concerns of the community.
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Speaker 2: That's lovely. Do you have another win? Actually, okay, make
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Speaker 2: it quick. And this is in particular my electorate. So
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Speaker 2: the Bakewell Primary School car park and these guys on this.
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Speaker 2: You don't know that I talk about this every sittings
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Speaker 2: that I possibly can. We have finally finally been able
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Speaker 2: to get at the government, both nty and federal to
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Speaker 2: co contribute to have it upgraded. So we're going to
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Speaker 2: have more car parks and a kissing drop zone, which
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Speaker 2: is much better. That is something that I've been fighting
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Speaker 2: for for a long time and the community have been
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Speaker 2: really getting behind me to make that happen.
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Speaker 5: So finally, has anyone text in to say they're not
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Speaker 5: my mother?
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Speaker 1: Yes, they have. Let me just double check that for you.
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Speaker 1: So I believe I've got one here that says I'm
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Speaker 1: just trying to find it now. I found it before.
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Speaker 1: I believe that it said, Hi, Katie, are straight talking
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Speaker 1: Keysier for chief Ministers? Still not She is Maryanne from Virginia.
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Speaker 1: Thanks Maryanne. There you come in for it. We tipple
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Speaker 1: later next week. Oh goodness.
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Speaker 5: May all right.
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Speaker 1: On that note, we are going to have to wrap up.
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Speaker 1: I have a cragging Christmas. Christmas babies. Oh yes, a
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Speaker 1: Merry Christmas to all the christ and happy Birthday Christmas
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Speaker 1: Chris Young's wife. You only young, Briana Gallagher? Oh is
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Speaker 1: it Christmas baby? And of course my mother no, weel
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Speaker 1: Oh that's lovely. We get sets of presents.
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Speaker 5: My mother has birthday presents and stuff in the morning
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Speaker 5: for breakfast, and then we do Christmas later.
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Speaker 1: That's the way it should be.
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Speaker 2: You've got to.
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Speaker 1: Get double presents if your birthday is Christmas Day. Thank
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Speaker 1: you all so very much for your time this morning,
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Speaker 1: but all throughout the year as well. We appreciate the
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Speaker 1: fact that we've always got the government, the opposition, and
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Speaker 1: indeed the independence on the show, not only for the
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Speaker 1: week that was, but for our listeners to hear from
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Speaker 1: each and every day. So thank you all so very much.
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Speaker 1: Merry Christmas, Merry Christmas.
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Speaker 4: Everyone. Travel safe if you are going anywhere. We know
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Speaker 4: that the.
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Speaker 3: Flights are expensive and the airports are all so so
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Speaker 3: be early to your flights and travel safe.
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Speaker 4: Everyone. Look forward to seeing everyone in the new year.
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Speaker 1: Oh there we go. Merry Christmas.