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Inside RNC: The Rise of 1v1 Rugby & Big Hits (ft. Ash) · Talking Shed

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  Yo, welcome back to Talking Shit podcast.
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  Am I right? The burger sign from the Valley
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  Charge now Kings again. Cheaper than your man's Trisha
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  sip. Taker And am I right, Bro?
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  Much. You watch the host from the
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  coast? What?
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  He's sharper than your auntie? Cider Champagne puppy.
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  Junior And am I right? Thank you for having me in.
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  Brothers. Thank you for thank you for
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  jumping on bro. Thank you for jumping on well,
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  we just found out. I'll fear that the Bros are much
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  national from the same area, but we're pretty much cousins.
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  Live across the road from each other?
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  Yeah. Hear that voice?
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  Small world bro. Hook younger just shows bro.
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  All the greats come from the hook younger.
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  I was telling him I swear 50% of the Maldives are me.
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  They'll be like, oh. You're from there.
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  I'm from there too. So I don't know what's happened
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  where we're all just like, fuck a Papa back to the same place.
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  It's crazy. Like he literally guessed the
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  street my parents live on. I was like, that's crazy.
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  I know man bro how's how you feeling anyway?
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  Good, bro. Good.
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  Yeah. To be here.
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  Yeah. Thank you, boys, for hosting me
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  and setting it up in the kitchen for me.
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  Yeah. Scrambled eggs.
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  Scrambled eggs. Just size undefeated.
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  The scrambled eggs. Fucking shit.
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  Cafe Brothers. Jump on the cafe, jump on the
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  podcast. You get food as I like when you
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  turn up coffee as well. Full stomach.
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  It's actually not a bad idea for a cafe to be honest.
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  We don't think about it. Shit cafe.
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  Yeah, well, you can do the mochas as well.
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  Yeah, true that. True that, bro.
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  So you just went back home recently as well, Yeah.
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  Because I was back there, took my my daughter back home to see
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  my father back up on Muku. That was awesome, bro.
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  For her to meet my family for the first time and for mum, my
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  grandparents that brought me up to be my daughter, bro is very
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  special, bro. Something that I can't really
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  explain. It's just yeah, you can't.
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  That's that's one thing that I'll never forget when they meet
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  my daughter. Met my daughter for the first
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  time. Honestly I can't imagine.
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  Bro what? What having a first child would
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  be like first and foremost that that that's bro Congratulations
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  to obviously you and your your partner as well.
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  Bro. I'm on baby.
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  How old is baby now She'll. Be 6 months I'm not Wednesday
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  coming the following Wednesday. So wow growing fast bro.
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  Six months already. It's crazy.
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  Man, time flies, eh? Yeah.
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  Thus bro. Oh well, we're not anywhere near
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  that eh bro? Kids and we live in the same
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  house. Can't have a kid and a kid,
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  that's the problem. Me.
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  Our partners give us a hard time all the time.
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  Eh? You 2 are both kids.
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  Yeah. Adult kids.
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  How are we going to have a kid of our own?
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  Yeah, Yeah. That's all good dynamic, right?
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  But it's the best dynamic. There it would be hard bro as
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  well, like because we obviously live overseas away from our
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  family as well, if you had kids and then they're away from, like
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  you said, the grandparents and that kind of thing.
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  So how, how to get back and see them because we're always
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  worrying about like getting back and seeing family and that kind
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  of thing. And like just, I don't know,
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  maybe it's the Maori side as well, like where you like want
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  them to know where they're from as well.
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  So do you do you feel like that you would you kind of get you
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  don't want them to lose that part, grow up and they're like,
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  hey mate, how's it going? Like yeah mate talking like
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  Aussie. Definitely not.
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  So I'm glad I I sound horny on the mic here because that's what
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  she's gonna hear. And the funny too, bro.
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  But now the biggest thing for me, bro, is never, never forget
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  where you're from. Yeah, you have home's always
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  home, bro. I'll always be home for me.
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  And taking her back and being on Elfinore around my final bro was
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  surreal. She actually got to be on the
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  mud eye too, bro. So that experience in itself,
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  obviously, you boys would know. It's a cultural experience in
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  itself. So just being there, bro, like
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  I, I yeah, there's no words for it, bro.
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  It's just special. I'm glad she's done it now.
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  And my final news, met her. And like you said, bro, we live
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  over here, but home's always home.
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  What what are you guys reckon about?
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  Because I recent recently went back to and we when my auntie
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  passed away and bro, I don't know, I'm a little bit off
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  staying on the mod eyes now. Hey, I'll stay.
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  I reckon next time I go, bro, I'll I'll stay there until you
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  have to sleep because bro, I I don't get any sleep because
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  everyone snores so much, bro. It's rough fate, but honestly
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  the loudest snoring of I was like, bro, this is actual like
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  memory unlocked when you just like it's like a Symphony of of
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  of snoring, bro, And then I have my dad joining in.
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  I'm like, you guys are too loud. Bro that's that's when you
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  realise bro, they're having the mainest sleep safe.
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  Right, that's all. Pisses your back is your life.
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  Yeah, bro, you're literally having the meanest deep sleep
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  and I can't sleep 'cause of you. Right, Definitely 'cause
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  definitely. Did you say the?
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  Yeah. Right now, we stayed on the
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  model for a couple of months, 'cause they're cycling hit.
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  Yeah, yeah, I'll see it all back home.
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  So we stayed on there for a couple of nights and like you
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  just saying, symphonies of dudes.
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  Were you one of the instruments? In there or actually the
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  trombone, yeah. Nah, Nah.
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  My Symphony comes from the other side.
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  Yeah, I'll leave that for the other side.
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  Yeah, good trip, bro. That's awesome, man.
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  And obviously, you know, got you in today, bro.
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  If for those that don't know, Ash, how do we tonight are here?
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  He is jumping into the run it Nation, the run Nation
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  competition that's come up, coming up starting next week,
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  oh, next week or the week after actually.
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  The 9th of May, so not next week and the weekend after.
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  Yeah, so obviously it's a it's a big event, the bro qualified for
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  it, but what what actually like we'll get straight into that.
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  Actually, what made you even think about getting into?
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  I guess that that type of event, yeah.
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  And what is it like describe because I actually still don't
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  really know it. Yeah, yeah.
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  So for the people watching, you've probably seen some of
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  that run it straight or run it. One of them were over in Dubai
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  and I think they've run some backyard stuff over here in
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  Australia. But this run nation is a bit
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  more professional. So like getting into the nuts
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  and bolts of it, obviously when you hear that word or hear that
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  phrase, run it or run it straight.
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  Like it's basically running it straight into someone else and
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  you meet in the middle. But what they've got planned for
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  this one or what they've set up for this one is a bit more
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  safety precautions. Like with the COM one I've done
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  a couple of weeks ago or about a month or so now, there's a lot
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  of testing that you actually had to pass to actually qualify.
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  So you couldn't just turn up on the day in jam they actually
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  take you for procedures and protocols to actually make sure
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  your bodies fit. For so previously, would it just
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  be like, yo, we're gonna have a run it straight, challenge
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  everyone who wants to come come down and then they'll just pay
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  you up when you get there? Yeah.
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  Yeah. And I didn't even think back in
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  the day when they had all those competitions.
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  I don't know, I could be corrected by this, but it's it's
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  weight category. So you're only going to go off
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  against your weight category. Yeah, I'm glad because some of
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  those boys are the combine, bro. I think one of the Bros was was
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  tipping the scales at 170. So yeah.
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  See, you just can't move that, eh?
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  You can't move that bro. No matter how hard you try, bro,
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  it's it's always going to be yeah, yeah, that is that battle.
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  So how did you get get him? Well, how are you keen to get?
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  Him so one of the very Z he's one of the coaches that actually
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  helps with RNC playable from back in New Zealand at Lenoir.
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  And he actually reached out to me now and I lived in Brisbane
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  and he goes cuz just reaching out.
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  I know you're in Brisbane. We're coming up there for a
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  combine and just wondering if you know anyone that would be
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  keen to jam this run nation and in my head is a joke.
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  I just said, oh, you're keen like yeah, keen.
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  And then I sort of thought about it second thoughts.
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  I thought maybe not, but he took it and he goes, are you keen?
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  I can let them know I'll give them your number and give you a
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  ring in that. And so the organizer rang me and
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  I said, Oh, this is my background, you know, I'll be
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  keen to sort of jump on board and, and see how I go and said
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  that was my foot in. And then from there, like I
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  said, I went to their combine and with the, the setup that
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  they had there was very professional.
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  Like I said, the procedures in place for you to make sure your
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  body's actually ready for contact.
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  They'd hand like neck tests, shoulder mobility tests, they've
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  done the acceleration test and done some simulation in terms of
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  the contact. So yeah, that was, there's a lot
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  going on. It was something that I've never
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  been a part of, but I'm glad I've done.
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  And obviously now I'm jamming in that iron C3, which I'm looking
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  forward to. The family knows a little bit
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  about it. Missus wasn't really keen on it
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  when she seen some videos. I just know for myself, knowing
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  that it's a weighted category and I'm in the category of wire
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  and weight, that's probably the biggest positive thing for me
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  and my partner because she's seen all these boys.
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  Yeah, yeah. Timing.
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  And they obviously, you know, I'm not bigger than me.
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  And like I said, one of the Bros was tipping the scales at 170.
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  So yeah, there's no chance of me going up against that guy.
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  But to know that it's weighted category, I think that makes my
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  Obviously I'm confident anyway, but I'm more confident now I'm
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  going up against someone the same source.
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  So is it RNC 3 because it's the third event?
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  Yes, So it goes up like that. OK, OK.
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  So and where were the first and second ones held?
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  Before, I think it was in Sydney bro, off the top of my head I
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  know the second one definitely was.
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  Yeah. The first one I'm not sure.
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  So there's a few of these around different brands.
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  Yeah, well, there's, I actually don't know to be honest.
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  I've only obviously been introduced to Run Nation and I
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  know there's a run it and I run it straight from from memory,
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  but I'm not associated with those.
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  Ones so is like is which one which?
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  Which one is the OGI? Think Run it Straight was the
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  very first one that started right and I've seen some videos
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  of those ones and it's literally in a park come.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just jumping up against this
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  guy. Start at the 50m line.
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  You start at the. 50 delay. I don't think it's that.
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  Far, yeah, definitely seen. That far with the.
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  Content that paints the picture. Paints the picture.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that, that stuff is scary
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  when there's no procedures and protocols and, and for myself,
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  bro, like I haven't played in a little while, bro.
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  So that combine in general was just a good sort of, sort of
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  highlight for me. Or not highlight, but to see
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  where I'm at. Yeah, where my body's at after
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  being out for so long. So.
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  Well, I didn't even realize you were doing this bro.
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  You just rocked up to mahi after the first one or whatever.
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  And I, I think I've seen a highlight.
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  And if if anyone that hasn't seen it, it's the bit, it's the,
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  the one that's seen being seen the most.
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  And that's when you just put on this massive hit, obviously at
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  the combine. And he just rocked up, bro.
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  And he was just like, Oh, I'm doing the RNC.
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  And I was like, I was like, since when, Since the weekend,
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  the holy cow. So it's pretty cool to, to, you
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  know, that, that, that it's opening up different doors as
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  well, which is pretty cool. You know, it's, it's, this is
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  the thing that I don't really understand.
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  It's, it's people comparing it or saying that it's a dumb
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  sport. Why do people do?
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  But yet these are the same people that are following UFC
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  boxing, You know, it really is, you know, the same thing.
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  That's exactly right, just a different.
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  Sport. Different, different sport.
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  Yeah, and the OG really was our backyards.
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  So I. Was about to say that.
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  Do you guys remember growing up and you do run it straight?
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  Ever? Did you guys ever do that?
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  Yeah, Barry Heaps. Yeah, that's right.
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  Bull rush. Yeah.
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  Calling out your cousin that you didn't like.
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  Yeah. Just find no arms.
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  That's effectively what this has turned into.
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  Do you have to use arms in this? No, no.
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  So it's full, It's no Rep, no wrapping tackle like you would
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  do in league. Yeah, full on shoulder contact.
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  I went for a session the other day to sort of highlight some
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  points that we sort of got to keep around.
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  There's there's those processes put in place for the safety of
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  the tackle and the runner. So what will is it like?
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  Cuz you don't want to hit them too low either, right?
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  So there's a, there's a. Hit zone.
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  Yeah, hit zone. So your collarbone and the
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  bottom of your chest. So what happens if you get Chin?
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  You're out. Well, technically that's sort of
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  it. Depends.
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  It depends if he's all right. If you've seen some of the
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  highlights where some of them have gone that way.
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  Oh yeah, they've been trying. To mitigate that from 1:00 to
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  2:00 and now 3, they're slowly learning how they can sort of
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  mitigate some of that stuff. So yeah, that doesn't happen
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  again. But we went through some
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  simulation the other day and I think with the target zone, and
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  if you're tackling, if you're tackled before, you know where
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  the zone is, and if you're gonna go too high, you sort of know
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  straight away you're probably gonna go too high too.
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  So yeah. Is there consequences for the
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  say, you know, the tackler? Cause most of the in most
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  scenarios I've seen, you know, through the highlights, it's
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  it's been the tackler, you know, shoulder to the head.
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  Yeah. So is there a consequence for
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  the tackler and that like, you know, for example, they lose
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  their pay package or you could? Be out of the out of the comp.
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  Yeah. So I think that comes down to
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  the judges and how they see that like, right, depending on the
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  attacker, we went through this the other day.
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  Depending on the attacker, if they drop their body too low,
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  that's sort of. On them, yeah yeah, yeah cuz.
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  They're dropping it to a height where that the defender's not
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  expecting. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  So they try and teach you not to drop too low, obviously.
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  But like you were saying with the contact from the defender,
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  yeah, that's it's sort of whatever happens on the on the
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  night or when the event hits. But yeah, like you're saying,
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  the judges will see that and probably take points off your
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  yeah, disqualify you because of it.
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  So. Yeah, yeah, 'cause I see some
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  fellas, bro, that have, have done it and, you know, they,
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  they run a real good hard line, you know, and then it's not
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  necessarily on their main. And so, yeah, you know, in
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  hindsight, I look back at it and I'm just like, surely these are,
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  you know, obviously a consequence for the, for the
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  tackler, you know, because of that reason.
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  So, you know, I mean, at the end of the day that you all know
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  what you're getting into anyway, you know, you all know what
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  you're getting into anyway. So, yeah.
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  But for those that haven't seen the highlights package or
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  whatever, you've got to jump on Run Nation RNC and then check it
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  out. But I thought I'd play your clip
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  kind of, you know, the, the, the promo package or you know, kind
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  of what they did. They asked you a few questions
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  and stuff like that. But here is Ash in his element.
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  Ash, how do we tonight? My ethnicity is Molly from New
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  Zealand. I grew up in West Oakland.
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  I currently live in Manly West in Brisbane.
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  That inspired me bro was just a lot of hype around those videos
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  and stuff like that and I was just always curious and I seen
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  RNC coming up to Brisbane and was actually a good mate on Y
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  and Z1 of the coaches down in Sydney.
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  They hit me up and put my foot in there and then fortunate
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  enough to make the cut and jamming in RNC.
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  Hey get the food gun in there, turn it on me, jump out to it
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  all came out to thick and then moldy.
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  That means to die like a hammerhead shark, not like an
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  octopus. And the problem goes is when you
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  catch octopus and bring it onto the boat, die straight away.
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  But when you catch a hammerhead shark that fights towards last
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  breath. So that's sort of something that
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  I go by in my day-to-day life. Why I think I wouldn't, to be
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  honest, I've never backed down from the challenge.
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  I think I'm definitely built for the sport.
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  You know, that video speaks for itself.
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  But like I said, I can't, I can't let that video go viral
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  and not show up at the show. So I'm just keen to bang and you
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  know, I'm not going to back down at the end of the thing.
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  That's. Cold baby.
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  That's pretty heartsy, bro. That is heartsy, man.
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  When they do all those program packages, do they?
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  I mean, how does that all work, you know?
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  That's just sort of set up a day and obviously ask those
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  questions. There's a lot more than that.
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  There'll probably be more program packages, all those kind
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  of videos coming up as it gets a bit closer to the event.
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  But yeah, it's just sort of being yourself, as you've seen
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  in there, like, yeah, sort of representing my culture, I mean,
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  representing my family with the problem that I've got on my arm.
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  It's sort of something that I live live by day-to-day.
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  And especially on the footy field, I was never the biggest
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  on the field. So, you know, I sort of had to
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  put my body in front of some big boys and if I ended up second
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  best, I ended up second best. But I'm just putting my my best
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  foot forward at the end of the day.
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  Yeah, me, me. So one thing I noticed in there
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  was that you said that you're from West.
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  Obviously I know you obviously played a bit of footy back home
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  as well. You wanna name some of those
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  teams as well? Yeah, yeah.
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  So I grew up in West Oakland with the Custom Boys High
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  School. Kelly.
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  Yeah, Kelly Black. Yeah.
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  So I grew up out West. A few teams that I played for
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  over there. I played at Glenora Beers and my
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  younger days junior grades and then progressed over to point
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  shift. We went to point shift from 2010
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  to 2013. That's pretty crazy.
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  You should talk about that because we was the same before.
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  That was a legendary team, though.
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  Yeah, so 2010 was sort of when I ventured over there and the
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  highlight for that was my pop sort of seen some of the XNRL
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  players or X greats from, you know, from the Kiwis and that
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  going back to their home club, which was guys like Stacey
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  Jones, Owen Goodenville, why don't you call who wants to be
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  from so the likes of those boys to get around them at a young
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  age. I was only 18 at the time too,
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  bro. So to go to a club that's got
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  that much. Damn, did they all go back?
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  Yeah, but went back, we were playing in the same team.
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  Oh, Colton Armour was another one.
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  True. And there's a few other boys
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  that came in and out just to sort of be there and get around
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  the boys. Just trying to think.
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  There's a couple others, but those were the sort of the main
• 16:06
  ones that were there for the whole year, so I was.
• 16:08
  With the goal to get them back to the to fox a Yeah.
• 16:11
  Well, that was the goal. They were in feelings, which is
• 16:12
  the third of back. Oh wow.
• 16:14
  Yeah, to start with in 2010 and we actually played Otar in the
• 16:17
  final and managed to win, win that.
• 16:20
  In the following year, we went to the Shaman, managed to
• 16:23
  progress from there. I can't remember exactly who we
• 16:25
  played in the final there. So you've been both those teams,
• 16:28
  yeah. Gangster.
• 16:29
  Both of those teams so. And then you got to the fox.
• 16:31
  Yeah, went to Fox in 2012 and we made it all the way to the final
• 16:36
  series and then there's a bit of a controversy that went on in
• 16:40
  that year. So in our last round game and we
• 16:43
  sort of had already made the finals cut and we weren't really
• 16:46
  keen to risk any injuries. So we rested pretty much a whole
• 16:50
  starting 17 or I think a couple of boys put their hand up.
• 16:53
  They didn't want to rest. But yeah, Holistically is
• 16:55
  basically a third division team that we put up against.
• 16:58
  I think it was Marist in that last game and they pumped us by,
• 17:01
  I don't know, 50-60 might even be more points and that meant
• 17:05
  that Papa quota weren't able to progress because of the points
• 17:09
  differential. So.
• 17:10
  I think that's all good day, but you're just risking.
• 17:12
  But we've won enough games. We can risk players and come in
• 17:15
  fresh to the final. But that's Sookie's bro
• 17:18
  Sookie's. I'm probably gonna get some
• 17:21
  slack from some of those boys. It's in the past, they leave it
• 17:24
  in the past. But yeah, that year was a bit of
• 17:27
  a yeah, Humpty Dumpty year. It was a bit of a sour into the
• 17:31
  season because like these boys said, we had done our work.
• 17:33
  We had got there for years and they won enough games and and
• 17:36
  done the job and then yeah. The for the last two years it
• 17:38
  like years have been building for ages, but.
• 17:42
  We obviously recruited really well for that year too.
• 17:44
  So yeah, we had some some decent players coming.
• 17:47
  But yeah, at the end of the year, 2012 was a bit of a sour
• 17:50
  taste. So when did 20-30 with a mindset
• 17:52
  of obviously taking it out or going a bit further and we
• 17:55
  managed to, yeah, when FOX in the 2013 year against Mount
• 17:58
  Albert Trust Stadium and that game in particular, bro, I was
• 18:02
  actually supposed to play reserve grade.
• 18:04
  I wasn't actually supposed to play that game, but one of our
• 18:07
  wingers got injured and fortunate enough that last
• 18:09
  training I went from playing reserve grade to Fox and my
• 18:13
  brother, my younger brother actually took my place in the
• 18:15
  reserve grade team. So that was pretty cool to to
• 18:18
  see my brother and they took it out the night before the fox.
• 18:21
  One, he would have been young as well.
• 18:22
  Yeah, he would have been maybe 16-17 at the.
• 18:24
  Time so. And he ended up playing 13,
• 18:27
  which was a position he had never played before.
• 18:29
  So in the middle of grand mean. Yeah, yeah, as a youngster,
• 18:32
  that's. Corey, Corey A Corey.
• 18:33
  Huddle with a nada Yeah, to the pro.
• 18:36
  But yeah, that year we we went Bang Bang reserve Grant and fox
• 18:40
  and yeah, fortunate enough to beat man now.
• 18:42
  But in that final there was a gangster final too.
• 18:44
  Like I remember the hype around it for me as a obviously I'd
• 18:48
  been there for so long and to to to play in the fox final was
• 18:52
  obviously a dream of mine. And then to win it with the boys
• 18:54
  that were there. Some of the of the Bros here,
• 18:56
  there were a couple of them Wax Maui to be the Latu 1, Ashford,
• 19:02
  Artem McCarthy, Toxie, like those boys were the boys that
• 19:06
  sort of set the set the our stage for for that year and the
• 19:09
  years before. So it was cool.
• 19:11
  And killed her for the rest of the next 10 years.
• 19:14
  Yeah. No one could beat them.
• 19:14
  Yeah. Yeah, they beat.
• 19:16
  They beat us each. That's the reason we couldn't
• 19:19
  get our final. We've been on the other end of
• 19:22
  that. Yeah.
• 19:24
  Yeah. And it wasn't until, you know,
• 19:25
  like Maui and all, then came, came, came back to their home
• 19:28
  clubs, you know, Yeah. To help us out because, yeah, we
• 19:30
  need it today. Yeah.
• 19:32
  That's unreal. Yeah bro.
• 19:33
  So I went four years at Point Chef, 33 grand finals and three.
• 19:37
  Championships. As a young fall of like 18/19/20
• 19:40
  at the time, wow, 21 when I finished up there, which was a
• 19:44
  massive journey. I look back at that time and and
• 19:46
  I had to grow up pretty fast. Grow up pretty fast.
• 19:49
  I was one of the youngest in the team and and developed pretty
• 19:52
  well. Was actually fortunate enough at
• 19:54
  the end of 2010 and we won the feeling to be drafted all to be
• 19:59
  asked to come in and do a train and trial with the Warriors 20s
• 20:02
  at the time. Yeah, yeah.
• 20:03
  So that was a cool environment, but just unfortunate for me.
• 20:06
  I fractured my ankle going into that pre season so I couldn't
• 20:09
  really train, but it was cool to be in that environment and to
• 20:13
  meet some of the the youngsters that are still killing it now.
• 20:16
  And and yeah, just to see that professional environment in that
• 20:19
  way. But holistically, bro, that
• 20:21
  journey back home was awesome. But yeah, that was sort of me.
• 20:24
  West Auckland. Kelly Block.
• 20:26
  Leonora Beers, Point shift, sort of my main clubs that I played
• 20:30
  for back. When you're at Kelston, bro,
• 20:31
  like obviously, because that's a very strong rugby, rugby league
• 20:34
  school, you know, and it's one of the only schools that I know
• 20:37
  of that that is so dominant in both codes.
• 20:39
  Yeah. Whereas like most, most schools
• 20:41
  back in New Zealand, you know, when it gets to high school,
• 20:43
  it's one or the other private schools are very, you know, in
• 20:47
  majority cases are playing rugby, you know, and that that
• 20:49
  takes over. And then obviously, you know,
• 20:52
  it's more like your public schools, like your Saint Paul's,
• 20:54
  your Kelly Block. These are a few scores,
• 20:57
  obviously, but that go down the rugby league route.
• 20:59
  But like I was saying, Kelston is the only real one that plays
• 21:03
  both codes and does it well in both scenarios.
• 21:07
  So I want you to go back to those days.
• 21:09
  If you can remember how many of the Bros back then, if you can
• 21:13
  name any, you know, that, that, that we're on the cuff or we're
• 21:16
  in the systems or, you know, maybe have made it or should
• 21:19
  have made it. Yeah, back then.
• 21:21
  There was like there's quite a few in my day, my time bro.
• 21:24
  So I was at custom from was O5 to O9 and in that time like
• 21:30
  obviously like you said, boys were saying it's it is
• 21:32
  predominantly a rugby based school.
• 21:33
  First team was sort of the goal for every boy going into that
• 21:36
  school in terms of a sporting background and I surely I was
• 21:40
  one of those boys. So growing up my pop wanted me
• 21:43
  to play rugby. So I was always rugby bro.
• 21:45
  I never really got to play league properly until I was 16.
• 21:48
  So that was my goal or that was his goal for me.
• 21:50
  But then that being my goal as well.
• 21:52
  But then I ended up finding Leonora Bears when I was 16 and
• 21:56
  was playing with boys that oh man, these some of these boys
• 21:59
  killed it back in these days. But their names might not ring a
• 22:02
  bell for you brothers, but maybe the boys or people that are
• 22:05
  listening to this. But James, Tupo, Kane, Hammond,
• 22:08
  Simon Gibson, we're probably 3 of the biggest players that I
• 22:11
  played with back in the day personally in my team.
• 22:13
  And then there was just trying to think Licky, Licky's younger
• 22:16
  brother. Yeah, because he was Sui Tong.
• 22:20
  He was gangster. But then the little one played
• 22:23
  20s as well. He was a middle way.
• 22:25
  I remember he was gangster as well.
• 22:27
  Can't. Remember the Bros name.
• 22:28
  But yet guys like that I played with and you see so much, seen
• 22:32
  so much potential at the younger age thinking and they all played
• 22:35
  20s. I'm pretty sure all progressed
• 22:36
  to obviously their 20s level to progress further.
• 22:40
  I think I'm not sure what the Bros are up to these days.
• 22:42
  But yeah, gun players back in the day, like I watch we've got
• 22:45
  actually got a highlight reel on YouTube from our own 19 in our
• 22:50
  20s when we played Mount Albert and just seeing some of those
• 22:53
  boys that I just rattled off there.
• 22:54
  They they they made that team. They killed it for that year to
• 22:58
  obviously take out the championship.
• 22:59
  But those are some names that sort of ring, ring, ring for
• 23:03
  league, but then also rugby, bro.
• 23:04
  They got actually the reason why we went back to league brothers.
• 23:08
  One of the Bros, Peter Arke, shout out to Peter Arke.
• 23:11
  He actually reached out to me since I'm sort of getting
• 23:13
  recognized in this RNC platform where he was a second five
• 23:16
  centre yeah playing rugby at the time and I was so my year 11
• 23:21
  year second to last, I'm sorry, year 12 year second to last year
• 23:24
  of school. I was sort of the starting
• 23:25
  second five centre. He was coming through the grades
• 23:28
  obviously 16, seventeens. Then it came to my last year in
• 23:31
  09 and they sort of had to pick between us, bro and I was on the
• 23:36
  bench for the first five games and then those first five games
• 23:38
  Peter was starting. Obviously first five games I
• 23:41
  only got 5 minutes. So.
• 23:43
  I was sitting on the sideline first, yeah, first five games.
• 23:45
  And the only 5 minutes I got was in that fifth game and I went on
• 23:49
  to the field sort of obviously down and out, not having having
• 23:53
  not played many minutes. And I got the ball, got through,
• 23:58
  got through my centre winger and I passed it off and we scored
• 24:00
  off the back of that. And I just remember that was
• 24:03
  sort of my, I don't know, time to, I sort of realized in that
• 24:09
  moment I'm like leagues, my game.
• 24:10
  Like I don't think rugby, I don't think I'm gonna progress
• 24:13
  further in rugby. Yeah, yeah.
• 24:14
  And I literally walked off the field, took my jersey off, took
• 24:16
  my shorts off truck, my socks on the ground and walked to the
• 24:19
  kids and told my pop, I'm not going back to play rugby again.
• 24:22
  And he was sort of like, I understand where you're coming
• 24:25
  from because you only played 5 minutes and I'm fortunate enough
• 24:28
  that 09, I don't know if you boys have seen, but our boys got
• 24:31
  into a bit of a punch. Yeah, but I've seen.
• 24:33
  It boys. I'm sorry.
• 24:35
  Grandma. Boys.
• 24:36
  Yeah. Conrad Barrel.
• 24:37
  Was in that team yeah. So I'm I'm sort of laughing on
• 24:40
  the side playing league and and these boys are sort of that's.
• 24:44
  That's probably the biggest fight of all time.
• 24:46
  Yeah bro, it was been. Floating around to this thing.
• 24:48
  Yeah, I haven't seen it. Haven't you?
• 24:50
  I've never. Seen it pull that up.
• 24:52
  Let's watch it. Pull that up.
• 24:54
  Is that on YouTube? Yeah, Gee, watch it.
• 24:55
  Actually watch it. It's bad to me.
• 24:57
  So what do I put? It it's like Conrad oral.
• 24:59
  There's some more other. There would have been, I think
• 25:02
  Papa Lee might have been on that team, but he would have been
• 25:04
  younger. Yeah, there's there's.
• 25:05
  There's more than that though bro there's 5.
• 25:08
  It's a main fight, yeah. Yeah, that's yeah.
• 25:13
  How many views? Only 44,000.
• 25:16
  There'll be multiple videos. Going crazy?
• 25:23
  This is the fun way, no? No, no, I don't think so.
• 25:26
  They're getting this upset In the normal game, it's.
• 25:31
  Funny way to Whoopi that fires the punch.
• 25:33
  He's one of my good mates. I was.
• 25:35
  Oh yeah, my. Good mates at the time, yeah.
• 25:37
  Loose dude. Oh, not really.
• 25:38
  I don't know what got into on the day.
• 25:41
  Yeah, you're. Crazy.
• 25:43
  Big boys a for school boys some. Units.
• 25:46
  Guys, wait, you're saying Connie Herrera's in this?
• 25:48
  And eggs. Looking boys, yeah, you'll see
• 25:51
  him will come up on the screen as it progresses.
• 25:56
  It's funny, one of my good mates, tolerability, he's in
• 25:58
  this team. Yeah.
• 26:00
  And he said he was, wasn't on the field at the time, but he
• 26:02
  felt like, yeah, it was just a brain snap from a few of our
• 26:05
  boys, which is unfortunate, but I'm laughing.
• 26:07
  Playing league like yeah, used for countries all all for
• 26:10
  championships. Yeah, because you went to
• 26:16
  Glenora when you're supposed to be staying here.
• 26:21
  Yeah. Yeah, these boys are gay.
• 26:24
  Oh my. God, but it's, it's nothing's
• 26:26
  wrong. Like everything's going right.
• 26:28
  Yeah, it's it's just a hard game at the moment.
• 26:30
  Yeah. Oh, that's right, they pull
• 26:33
  over. Yeah, too.
• 26:35
  Was that to win the game? I'm not sure though that must
• 26:38
  have been. Both.
• 26:38
  Yeah, yeah. That's 23.
• 26:41
  I got them both. Oh, so oh so.
• 26:45
  No way so. Wait, so they scored?
• 26:49
  Oh no, they didn't score, right? They didn't score.
• 26:50
  They just got scored on. And that's not all of it too.
• 26:56
  It sort of sparked this from. Well, this coming in.
• 26:59
  Come back there. I got you.
• 27:00
  Uncle Connie. He's not really doing anything,
• 27:03
  no. Sparks up again later on too.
• 27:09
  Yeah, it's simmers out and then one of our boys toes up against
• 27:13
  one of those boys. Gee, he just pulled them out and
• 27:18
  started, Yeah. For the Sparks up again, this
• 27:29
  guy, Mike Mano. Mike Mano.
• 27:31
  Sorry. Oh yeah, Oh yeah, that's bad,
• 27:43
  bro. Back when the Scots cuts was the
• 27:45
  thing, the pushovers, that was. That was disgusting.
• 27:59
  Yeah, bro, I have never seen that.
• 28:01
  Yeah, mean fight. That is crazy, but.
• 28:04
  Yeah, mean fight. We need more of him.
• 28:07
  Holy, okay, you're very wow. That went crazy when that
• 28:11
  happened. Yeah, it's funny, bro, that I
• 28:13
  think it happened on a Saturday, but it might have been before or
• 28:16
  after I was playing for Glenroy, Yeah.
• 28:18
  And I got back to my phone and everyone was had messaged me.
• 28:21
  Have you seen the fight? You've seen the phone?
• 28:22
  I'm like what? What fight?
• 28:23
  Because I was thinking they were talking about fighting now.
• 28:24
  Yeah, yeah. No, I only seen no fights and I
• 28:27
  was literally there for 30 minutes watching it.
• 28:29
  Yeah, yeah. What are?
• 28:30
  The boys up to like. Wow.
• 28:33
  Yeah, brainstorming. I was going to go back to the
• 28:35
  point ship thing because you played with Stacey Jones, I'm
• 28:37
  Goodenville, that kind of thing. What were the what were they
• 28:41
  like playing like? Do they?
• 28:43
  I just want to know if they were like smoking cigarettes in the
• 28:46
  changing rooms or like they were like drinking kids or coming up
• 28:49
  hungover because I know back in the day it was different.
• 28:53
  It was different. Those those boys were built
• 28:55
  different. Like what was it like with them
• 28:57
  in the changing? Rooms.
• 28:58
  The cigarettes were nowhere to be seen by the crates.
• 29:01
  Crates on crates on crates by Lion Reds.
• 29:03
  Yeah, We'll go back to our changing sets after a game.
• 29:06
  There'll be a couple of cases of a couple of boxes that we call
• 29:09
  it back home. Yeah, yeah.
• 29:10
  Lion Red, Steinies and whatever. Yeah.
• 29:12
  And then we'll go down to the the club rooms, bro, and they'll
• 29:14
  have like two or three crates for us.
• 29:16
  Obviously, when Stacy was there, probably like four or five every
• 29:21
  time there was empty break, just beers on beers on beers.
• 29:23
  And that's why, I mean, I had to grow up pretty fast.
• 29:25
  I was 1819. Yeah.
• 29:27
  Of these boys just charging through these crates.
• 29:30
  Yeah, but. The liver could grow up real
• 29:32
  fast. Sort of set the set the tone for
• 29:36
  the boys. That was the community though.
• 29:37
  Like we used to go back from the games, have a main fee, get on
• 29:40
  the, get on the charge, yeah, hard same thing next week.
• 29:43
  And it was just building that. And then obviously it's sort of
• 29:46
  highlights why we sort of made it.
• 29:48
  The way we team chemistry and that kind.
• 29:49
  Of thing, what were they like when they came into?
• 29:51
  Obviously because you know, they've been at the top, they've
• 29:53
  played Kiwis, you know what I mean?
• 29:54
  Like, you know, if they were Australian, they probably would
• 29:56
  have played State of Origin realistically.
• 29:57
  Like, you know, So what was it like when they came back to to
• 30:00
  point and just being? Like, were they pumping people?
• 30:03
  Well everyone was looking like looking for them bro on the
• 30:05
  field, so we actually played hibiscus.
• 30:07
  Coast I remember that. I watched that game.
• 30:09
  True. I remember that game.
• 30:10
  I was a fullback in that game. True to.
• 30:12
  Wear headgear. Yeah.
• 30:13
  And I just remember being a fullback at the back of Stacey
• 30:15
  Jones and just seeing like back row was just shooting for our
• 30:19
  mate. Yeah, but he obviously had a bit
• 30:21
  of a hit on him because he didn't obviously get shot too
• 30:23
  much. But I just remember playing
• 30:25
  against teams and they're just always looking out for those
• 30:27
  players. Yeah, once he be firm heat ball
• 30:29
  bro. He was.
• 30:31
  Anyway, there's a. Shit the multi beef and play.
• 30:33
  Yeah, bro, he was one of the hardest players I've ever
• 30:35
  played, bro, Hey. Just pumping, like smoking.
• 30:38
  Smoking people like and like there was a we got into a couple
• 30:41
  of punch UPS and like. You just walked in.
• 30:43
  And they just did stops and. Stops.
• 30:45
  Yeah, they knew it. The.
• 30:46
  Other way but yeah, like they're just the just the obviously
• 30:49
  experience and the they were just normal people though bro.
• 30:52
  They didn't really have that status about them in the club.
• 30:55
  Bro they weren't like arrogant or anything, no.
• 30:56
  No, yeah, Stacey Jones in particular, bro.
• 30:58
  Like he was the first one. Obviously I was was young, 18 at
• 31:01
  the time. He was the first one was and
• 31:03
  asked me what do you drink? We got back to the club.
• 31:04
  Yeah, it wasn't like I'm sort of this.
• 31:07
  I'm too good for you. Yeah.
• 31:08
  Yeah, he was a real people person and we actually built a
• 31:11
  really good relationship and to the stay broke.
• 31:13
  We still keep in touch, which is awesome and yeah like going back
• 31:17
  to that asking the question about them and their background
• 31:19
  and. But drinking was a massive
• 31:20
  thing. You've probably seen Angsters
• 31:22
  Poku's a bit yeah yeah, the pedicabs Nah, that's just them
• 31:27
  right. Like it was awesome.
• 31:28
  Like we used to do activities with them that you just see it
• 31:31
  for what it is now. But back then, like as a, like I
• 31:34
  said, a youngster, it's just like, how am I even in the same
• 31:36
  room same as these people? And they like it was that
• 31:40
  experience in itself. But it's yeah, it's crazy.
• 31:43
  I still, I don't even realize I've played with them.
• 31:45
  That's why I. Think about it a little while
• 31:46
  ago now. Being a wall.
• 31:47
  Being a wall. Do you kind of, can you remember
• 31:50
  anything back then when you were just like they might have given
• 31:52
  you any type of advice, you know, because you were 1819 and
• 31:57
  you're probably chasing the dream then?
• 31:58
  Did they ever say to you, you know, like you know anything
• 32:02
  with your game style or your mindset or preparation or?
• 32:06
  I think obviously the the culture part of of sports in
• 32:08
  general, but and the drinking part of it was probably the
• 32:11
  biggest thing that. They stuffed me up.
• 32:15
  I was gonna make. It that was what they and it
• 32:18
  was, I don't think it was for us to get charged in that concept.
• 32:20
  It was more that to get to know them, to socialize with them and
• 32:24
  get to know them as people. But I actually, yeah, back in
• 32:27
  the day, Stacey was one of the big reasons why I sort of not
• 32:30
  necessarily cracked it, but sort of had that level of belief
• 32:33
  because he believed in me, which was awesome.
• 32:36
  Yeah. Playing out the back of him, bro
• 32:37
  was yeah. He would only ever give me the
• 32:39
  ball if it was on. He would give me the ball if
• 32:41
  someone had shot up and obviously tried to shoot up on
• 32:44
  me. But yeah, it's crazy.
• 32:46
  I start thinking about these things now and we're what, years
• 32:50
  and years later? Yeah, but he's still thinking
• 32:52
  about those days. And when I tell people I played
• 32:55
  with Stacey Jones and Alan Goodenbill wants to be for one
• 32:58
  of those players, I still don't believe it, you know?
• 33:01
  Yeah, because it's been so. I almost can't believe it.
• 33:03
  That's crazy that they. That's crazy, man.
• 33:05
  That's yeah, very. I don't know.
• 33:07
  It was like I was playing with Nobby.
• 33:09
  Well, yeah, he was like my childhood, like my my childhood,
• 33:12
  like best player. But when I'm watching him play
• 33:13
  in the 20s and we played with him at North Co and yeah, same
• 33:16
  thing, bro. That dude is he's crack up.
• 33:21
  He's one of the funniest dudes of of mid-day.
• 33:23
  People still, people still, bro, like, talk about like, I went
• 33:26
  back and played Kotai Tanga, like, you know, in the last
• 33:28
  Maldives. What is it?
• 33:30
  Yeah, yeah. And anyway, you're playing with
• 33:33
  these young fellas now who? They're 1819 and we're 10 years
• 33:39
  older than these young kids now that are coming through and
• 33:41
  they're in the system and they're playing against Nobby in
• 33:44
  the bro, I can't believe I'm playing against Nobby.
• 33:45
  And I'm like, for us, that's kind of normal, you know,
• 33:47
  because we, we've played with so many of these players now.
• 33:50
  And but for these young kids, I can only imagine, bro, that's
• 33:53
  the mindset, you know, like, you know, that's like, well, then
• 33:55
  that's they're like, that's the idol, bro.
• 33:57
  That's the, you know, that's who they look up to.
• 33:59
  And he's still bro, he's still killing it too, you know.
• 34:01
  But there are plenty of players in the game at the moment, you
• 34:03
  know, and even over here in Osborough, like I played in the
• 34:06
  Northern NSW last year, man, this heaps of XNRL Cup players,
• 34:10
  bro, you know, still going around and giving back to the
• 34:12
  game in that sense, you know, And so and it and it brings
• 34:15
  people to the games too. It gives people to go and see,
• 34:17
  bro, I want to go see, you know, my auto, you know, I'm still
• 34:20
  jamming and stuff and they're still going at it.
• 34:21
  So yeah. Well, it's interesting that
• 34:24
  you're saying you're a little fullback running out the back of
• 34:27
  Stacey Jones and now you're running straight.
• 34:29
  Yeah, bro. Yeah.
• 34:31
  It's a change around, bro, Yeah. I'm from being a fullback,
• 34:35
  running away from players. Now, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 34:38
  So surreal bro. Yeah, I think the with the run
• 34:41
  nation in that, you know, coming up, I know you like I took
• 34:45
  something away from there is that you know you're obviously
• 34:47
  coming to win. Yeah, 100% bro.
• 34:49
  Who who are you? Like how do they do the match
• 34:51
  ups and stuff like is it just, you know, pick the pick the name
• 34:55
  out the hat type of thing or yeah.
• 34:56
  Or was it just like that? It's just based on who we think
• 34:59
  you're, it's going to create the biggest match up or.
• 35:01
  Not the whole build up to it bro.
• 35:02
  So obviously I've done the combined and like I said, it's
• 35:05
  weighted sort of category. So you sort of have to find
• 35:08
  someone that fits your weight category and there weren't too
• 35:11
  many that were around my weight category that had done the
• 35:14
  combine. I mean, and so when Trey rang me
• 35:17
  and was talking to me about, you know, obviously being successful
• 35:19
  and we get doing our match ups now and we're really looking
• 35:23
  forward to this one because I got a big name for you.
• 35:25
  And as soon as you said that, I was like, well, it's got to be
• 35:28
  either Addison or Trey. Trey, sorry.
• 35:30
  And then sure enough, it was Dre and in my head, he was actually
• 35:33
  at the combine at the end there. And in my head, I was like, you
• 35:35
  know, I want to go up against the best, but also I want to
• 35:39
  make sure that I earned it. And I think throughout that
• 35:41
  combined, I actually finished in the top 2 in terms of weight to
• 35:45
  sort of strength category, which was awesome.
• 35:47
  Wow. Something I wasn't really
• 35:49
  expecting. Obviously I trained to the side
• 35:50
  and and do my own thing for me personally.
• 35:53
  But to put it on that in that realm and be in the combine and
• 35:56
  to hear that, it was pretty, pretty buzzy, to be honest, for
• 35:59
  someone that you hadn't played for two years but can still put
• 36:02
  out some numbers like that. And yeah, to hear that Dre was
• 36:05
  my opponent, bro, I was like, oh, you know, I've seen what he
• 36:08
  can do. You know, he actually had a
• 36:10
  really good match up against Eddie.
• 36:12
  And there's a bit, I'm fortunate to lose that one to be honest.
• 36:14
  It was pretty even if you're asking me bro, like I'll watch
• 36:17
  those videos back obviously to, to understand his sort of
• 36:20
  technique and those kind of things.
• 36:21
  But just watching the match up in general, it was very close
• 36:25
  like, and I feel like it's gonna be very similar when it comes to
• 36:28
  me and him. There's a lot of hype around it.
• 36:30
  Obviously he's done 2 RNCS already.
• 36:33
  This is my first one. So he's got that experience on
• 36:35
  me, but when it comes to, you know, the actual event and what
• 36:38
  we're doing at the event, running it straight and, and,
• 36:40
  and, and whacking people like it's, that's, that's something
• 36:44
  that I'm pretty confident of myself to do.
• 36:46
  And like, you know, there was a video that went pretty, pretty
• 36:49
  crazy from that combo and bro, so like I said in that little
• 36:52
  interview there, I can't let that video go viral and not turn
• 36:55
  up on at the, at the show, bro. So, you know, I'm not, I'm not
• 36:59
  going, I'm going in there confident.
• 37:01
  Obviously we want to go in there confident because otherwise, you
• 37:03
  know it's gonna go the other way if you're not.
• 37:05
  But I know the bro's gonna turn up and turn up.
• 37:08
  I'm ready. So you know, I'm ready to ready
• 37:10
  to meet him in the middle. Yeah.
• 37:14
  Keller Mindset. Well, I might join up now.
• 37:17
  Yeah, under 70s. I wanna drop weight.
• 37:20
  I'm gonna be doing the UFC. Drop weights.
• 37:22
  I have to run it straight to like a little ass person.
• 37:25
  What do you see this this type of event kind of going to
• 37:28
  eventually, you know, say in 10-15 years, You know, like I, I
• 37:32
  look back at I watch that that movie that the Rock, he he was
• 37:37
  the actor in it your own game, not the USC one, the the
• 37:40
  fighter. He.
• 37:40
  He. Oh, a new one.
• 37:42
  Yeah, I think I saw that he dropped heaps of weight for a
• 37:44
  day. I don't know, but he, yeah, that
• 37:46
  guy, he was basically tapped in the head anyway.
• 37:48
  It was like during the days before UFC was really big, you
• 37:51
  know, And then obviously, you know, you have pioneers.
• 37:53
  And I'd say you guys are currently, you know, The
• 37:56
  Pioneers of the sport because realistically, there's not much
• 38:00
  money in it. There is going to.
• 38:02
  I mean, there is actually money in it, yeah.
• 38:03
  I think there's a bit, but but I'm not.
• 38:05
  Oh, there's a bit. Yeah, but not when they're
• 38:06
  comparing. It's obviously USA, right,
• 38:08
  That's what I'm getting there. Yeah, you know, or say NRL
• 38:11
  contracts, you know, eventually it might, it'll probably get
• 38:14
  there realistically, but it will take some time.
• 38:17
  Do you see the sport going up, you know, to to that top of
• 38:20
  level? I think just what they're doing,
• 38:22
  you know, from every event that's improving in in small
• 38:25
  ways and the ways that it needs to, because obviously you would
• 38:28
  have seen some of those guys from events previous to this
• 38:30
  one. There has been obviously some
• 38:33
  injuries and some some crazy contact.
• 38:35
  And then obviously trying to mitigate that as much as they
• 38:38
  can. And what they've done event to
• 38:40
  event has definitely helped mitigate some of those things.
• 38:43
  So coming into this one, RNC 2, the rules have changed again for
• 38:47
  RNC 3. So they've seen small little
• 38:50
  things that they can tweak to hopefully make it a bit more
• 38:51
  safer for both the runner and the defender.
• 38:54
  And one thing they've done already or one of the one thing
• 38:57
  that they've sorry for this event is that the attacker gets
• 39:01
  7 meters to meet in the middle and then the defender gets 5
• 39:04
  meters to meet in the middle. So I can't remember what the
• 39:06
  meterage was beforehand, but that in itself.
• 39:09
  And like, I've done it a couple of Times Now.
• 39:11
  It's the first time I've done it, obviously, but I can see why
• 39:14
  that could mitigate a lot of injuries because I think it
• 39:17
  might have even been 10 and 10, yeah.
• 39:19
  I was gonna say that doesn't seem like heaps of space.
• 39:21
  Doesn't bro but I think. I'm 7 meters from the middle and
• 39:25
  the other persons 5 meters from the middle.
• 39:27
  The defenders 5 and the attack is 77.7.
• 39:31
  There's like obviously points in there, but just to make it a bit
• 39:33
  easier. Yeah, yeah, yeah, from everyone
• 39:35
  listening. But I think as a defender,
• 39:37
  obviously you want to get up fast and get into that
• 39:39
  engagement zone. But obviously as an attacker,
• 39:42
  you want to get up fast and build as much speed as you can.
• 39:45
  And as they say, and obviously you've seen it in NRL and even
• 39:48
  some of those videos from the last events, speed can cause
• 39:52
  some damage. Yeah, 100%.
• 39:54
  They're trying to. Yeah, less than that, I suppose.
• 39:56
  Or not. So what's the?
• 39:58
  I was thinking that as well. Is there a rule on how fast you
• 40:00
  have to run up? Do you have to keep running?
• 40:02
  You can't slow down or you can't break your moment 100%.
• 40:06
  That'll be just, yeah, that's another question I had.
• 40:14
  Can you do laid feet or anything like that?
• 40:16
  You can't step. You can swerve.
• 40:17
  You can swerve. What about the thicker
• 40:19
  polyescena goosey? Can you do one of those lines?
• 40:23
  You could if you want to, like it's not the step in general,
• 40:26
  obviously a whack, yeah. As a, as a touch step, no.
• 40:29
  But I, I swear is what we were told yesterday that we can, we
• 40:32
  can sort of add to. To come in, yeah, like kind of.
• 40:36
  Yeah, sort of meet in the middle as like a like a arcing.
• 40:39
  What about like when you're holding the ball?
• 40:41
  Can you cuz you know, like the way the Hargraves, Yeah, yeah,
• 40:45
  yeah. Elbows.
• 40:46
  So where does that you kind of touch it?
• 40:48
  Yeah, you're tucking it elbows down and bracing yourself.
• 40:50
  And does it? Are you gonna lead?
• 40:53
  Like, lead with the ball? Inside, inside, all right, sort
• 40:56
  of thing. Yeah.
• 40:56
  OK, so if you're on the left hand side, you're on your right
• 40:58
  hand. OK, right hand side.
• 41:00
  Do you have to go both ways? Like both sides.
• 41:02
  Yeah, so on the night you'll get 2 tackles, two runs.
• 41:05
  From. On each side.
• 41:06
  Oh. True, yeah.
• 41:08
  So I'm so bad at a left hand ball, ball carry and.
• 41:11
  We're doing that the other day and I noticed like obviously I'm
• 41:13
  right-handed, right? So left hand carries awkward and
• 41:17
  I found that out pretty quickly yesterday, but it's just
• 41:20
  understanding. Like at the start you can hold
• 41:21
  it with two hands, but they try and get you to get it into that
• 41:24
  one hand as soon as you can and embracing and using your other
• 41:27
  hand obviously there to yeah, hold the into it type thing.
• 41:30
  But true, I wasn't built to run, but I was built to hip.
• 41:34
  But obviously gotta learn how to do the other one just as good as
• 41:36
  the other. One I wasn't built for either.
• 41:38
  So yeah, just straightforward. Sometimes I'll be in a game, I
• 41:43
  honestly be in a game and then watching the Ford run to bro
• 41:46
  fuck. That.
• 41:49
  One thing me and her always used to talk about, I used to hate
• 41:53
  it. I didn't make sense in my head
• 41:54
  as 1/2 back when I was playing half and you kick it off of the
• 41:57
  kick off and I'm lined up with the prop and I'm thinking, bro,
• 42:01
  why am I lined up with this big ass dude?
• 42:03
  And that's pretty much what run it straight has originated from
• 42:06
  is the kickoff A yeah, so, but that's just one thing I remember
• 42:10
  I thinking in league, bro, why am I lined up with this?
• 42:13
  And I do not want to tackle this prop running it straight at me.
• 42:18
  It's funny you say that bro because like you probably know
• 42:20
  these kind of names that were flirting around with back in the
• 42:22
  day but I don't know if the pro will shout out to this but I
• 42:26
  used to love getting up on Tony Tuya.
• 42:30
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And even in Maldis, like
• 42:33
  obviously some Maldis sort of part and Passover, but I
• 42:36
  remember when we went back for 20/23, he played against
• 42:39
  Auckland bro and same thing. Bro kicked it off and I was like
• 42:43
  just shooting up for him. Off the kick off.
• 42:45
  Yeah, off the kick off because obviously he's only two or three
• 42:47
  times. Yeah, because.
• 42:49
  He is huge. Yeah, and the Bros, always.
• 42:52
  You love that competitiveness. Bro, I was running away from
• 42:55
  them and those, yeah, yeah. I was like, bro, some of those
• 42:57
  contacts, even from when I was playing, yeah, it'd just be
• 43:00
  like, I couldn't do that, bro. I was just.
• 43:05
  I tried to run away. Yeah, I remember I saw a video.
• 43:09
  Anyway, I was trying to look for it, but I don't know.
• 43:11
  You might be able to find it, but it's I remember this one run
• 43:14
  and I was wondering if you you you're back in this day, but it
• 43:16
  was like. The Mount Albert dude.
• 43:18
  Yeah, that was after. Yeah, I forgot his name.
• 43:20
  Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
• 43:22
  Bro and he just ran it and I was like, bro, imagine being the guy
• 43:25
  in front of that. I'm like, oh hell no, bro, I've
• 43:28
  seen that. And I'm just like, Nah bro,
• 43:29
  that's that's not for me. That's not for me.
• 43:33
  That's so you know straight away speed can cause some.
• 43:36
  Damage cause he used to boost the day off the off the kickoff.
• 43:39
  I can see if I can find it if you want.
• 43:40
  Yeah, yeah. Going back on Tony Tuya though,
• 43:42
  Bro G, he's the OG man. He's been around for a long,
• 43:44
  long time, man. Yeah.
• 43:46
  He's been on the commute for so long that yeah, they'll make a
• 43:49
  statue for the. Break, but 100% I know man, he's
• 43:51
  a stalwart him and yeah, a few of the other boys that are still
• 43:54
  around, but he was still going last year.
• 43:56
  I think he was still at yeah, moldies as well and giving it a
• 43:59
  crack and stuff. But he just loves the game and
• 44:02
  he loves just like giving it back to the community.
• 44:04
  That's what I love about players like him, you know, and just
• 44:07
  hard fellows, but they you know, they all got, you know, they
• 44:11
  come from a good place. You know, when they think about
• 44:13
  giving back to the community and stuff because that club brew,
• 44:15
  how we're going through it. Last year.
• 44:18
  I don't even think though they they almost couldn't even field
• 44:20
  a prim squad. From what I remember.
• 44:22
  I was talking to one of the Bros, Jeffrey Jeffrey friend and
• 44:25
  and bro, he retired and they they called him to come back to
• 44:29
  come and bro, like we need you. And I was like, I saw him before
• 44:32
  he went out for the first game of the season.
• 44:34
  I happened to be back home and I just played in the reserve grade
• 44:37
  game for the Tigers because that's who they were playing,
• 44:41
  bro. And I see it.
• 44:42
  I was like Jeffrey and he was warming up and he's like, yeah,
• 44:44
  bro, you wouldn't believe it. I just got caught in to come in
• 44:46
  and help the boys out. I gotta find it.
• 44:48
  Yeah, Yeah. So he just got caught in to, to,
• 44:50
  to play. And I was like, bro, imagine
• 44:52
  that you, you thought you were retired, but you're not.
• 44:54
  They've unretired you. But it does get like that, bro.
• 44:59
  I want to ask you a question, bro, just like something a
• 45:00
  little bit completely different because we're talking about
• 45:02
  this. So we have a flat chat segment
• 45:03
  here and now flat chat segment. We often we, we have dinner
• 45:06
  together on a Thursday night or Wednesday night together.
• 45:09
  And at the table, bro, we always bring a question.
• 45:11
  And so we're going to ask the question to you and we'll ask it
• 45:14
  to us as well. So the question was, and my
• 45:15
  partner asked the question and it was if you had a salary to
• 45:19
  pay one person to help you in your life with anything, with
• 45:23
  anything that you needed, what would it be?
• 45:27
  Anyone in the world in terms of. So it could be, it could be
• 45:30
  someone to do your admin like your e-mail something, someone
• 45:33
  to do your chores at home, someone to cook for you, a
• 45:36
  driver. PT free?
• 45:39
  PT free? What's some other ones?
• 45:43
  While you're thinking about it, like for example, I said I said
• 45:45
  I would have a chef because I was just thinking dinner takes
• 45:48
  or breakfast, lunch and dinner. If I do eat bricky as well.
• 45:51
  But like all of that, that's a 2/2 and 1/2 hour job in itself.
• 45:57
  Well, to cook it, to eat it, etcetera.
• 45:59
  So I just thought get rid of that so that I can fix some
• 46:02
  other things that I wanted to do.
• 46:03
  So podcasting, whatever, whatever, you know.
• 46:05
  What was your one? My one was washing.
• 46:08
  Yeah. You know, just save my partner.
• 46:12
  That's what she said. Because I go, I'll get someone
• 46:14
  to do the washing and she's like, you already do have
• 46:16
  someone that you're. Watching come on.
• 46:19
  Facts. Facts.
• 46:21
  Well, I could have probably said that the same thing.
• 46:23
  My partner gave me the evils when you said that.
• 46:26
  You should have said that, boy. I don't know, there's something
• 46:30
  that came to my head know if it fits in with the question bro.
• 46:33
  But if I could, and it's probably very other than like a
• 46:36
  chef and someone to do your laundry.
• 46:38
  I live in Brisbane from work bro.
• 46:40
  So if anyone could get a get a jet back home?
• 46:43
  Oh titsy holiday. Get back to my family faster.
• 46:47
  Very like I don't during the week.
• 46:49
  More so with my daughter and my fiance, but I like to to get
• 46:52
  more time with them during the week is probably the biggest
• 46:55
  thing I would would like a wolf and and if that's a jet
• 46:58
  teleportation. Or.
• 47:00
  Something. Like that?
• 47:01
  Yeah, that's. Probably the right.
• 47:03
  That's a good one because people probably don't realize this, but
• 47:05
  yeah, we we work together. That's how we obviously know
• 47:08
  each other and where you come from.
• 47:10
  It's about an hour drive. Hey one way.
• 47:12
  Yeah, well to work back, back home could be anything.
• 47:15
  Well, plus. What makes you like, I mean,
• 47:18
  obviously, you know, the easiest option is to, to move, move the
• 47:22
  family, but you know, people don't know the scenarios.
• 47:25
  You know that, that obviously some, some people in you know,
• 47:28
  because you do make that trip every day, five days a week,
• 47:31
  bro, make it 6 because you're here today.
• 47:33
  You know, like realistically, what makes you go to work and
• 47:37
  stuff like that, because you know, we are in a very
• 47:39
  different, not necessarily different, but it can be
• 47:42
  difficult, you know, some days type of job, you know, with,
• 47:45
  with, with the, the individuals we deal with.
• 47:48
  So what makes you kind of, you know, get up every morning, be
• 47:50
  like, Yep, let's go. Well, like I touched on at the
• 47:53
  table for you this morning over breakfast, but there's it's
• 47:55
  there's a bit more purpose to this job, bro.
• 47:58
  Like with our upbringings that we've had, everyone's got an
• 48:00
  individual sort of challenges and and things that they've been
• 48:03
  through in life and with the job that the does the party know you
• 48:07
  do for my. Oh, teaching.
• 48:08
  Yeah. Yeah, they don't really, really
• 48:10
  know yet, but I don't mind. Yeah.
• 48:11
  Yeah, sure. So I'm a youth worker in the, in
• 48:12
  the, in the space that we work at.
• 48:14
  And our main, main goal for these boys and to they is to
• 48:18
  engage them in school, engage them into a job, engage them
• 48:21
  into something that's gonna be beneficial in their lives and
• 48:24
  get them away from the obviously the the things that are going
• 48:27
  around on social media or just in general in their background.
• 48:30
  So just teaching from a perspective of life and things
• 48:33
  that I've been through and hopefully giving them that
• 48:36
  advice to, to steer away from some of the things that I got
• 48:38
  into and, and to hopefully not have those hiccups or roadblocks
• 48:42
  in their life. I know, you know, everyone makes
• 48:44
  their own choices and those kind of things, but it's that
• 48:46
  passion, bro. And giving back to our next
• 48:48
  generation is probably the biggest thing I can put that
• 48:50
  down to. Yeah.
• 48:52
  I I got, you know, in hindsight, I probably will say a JIT as
• 48:55
  well. Yeah, it's a pretty good one.
• 48:58
  They Yeah, exactly. I thought we'll round up the
• 49:02
  potty, bro by doing a little bit of a game too.
• 49:04
  Yeah, sweet bro. All right, we'll both jump in on
• 49:06
  this, I reckon. But basically because you are
• 49:08
  known as the hitman in terms of the RNC 3, we wanted to ask you
• 49:13
  who obviously the biggest hitters or your biggest hitter.
• 49:16
  Obviously no one to to the NRL rugby circles are.
• 49:19
  So I'm gonna list the few players.
• 49:22
  By the end of it you're gonna have one player.
• 49:24
  OK, so I'll go for example, Brian Lima AKA the Chiropractor
• 49:28
  or Steve Mehta. Steve.
• 49:29
  Mehta, Who's Brian Lima? Brian Lema.
• 49:31
  Brian Lema yeah, no, the chiropractor G some was.
• 49:34
  Some. Was wait, was he the one that
• 49:36
  played for the Eels? No rugby.
• 49:40
  Yeah. Yeah, wait, okay, who do you
• 49:41
  play for in the Super? I couldn't tell you.
• 49:44
  I think it was everyone. I don't even.
• 49:46
  Know. Maybe England.
• 49:47
  Something I'm not even gonna guess.
• 49:49
  I'm not even. Some more somewhere or
• 49:50
  something? Yeah, people just know them.
• 49:52
  Both people know them. Trees over the.
• 49:54
  Other Yeah. Steve, Matti, George, The Four.
• 49:57
  Steve Maddow. What a crazy AJ.
• 50:00
  Both next to each. Imagine being a fullback up on
• 50:03
  me. Steve Maddow.
• 50:05
  Just one shoulder and get another. 1.
• 50:07
  Yo thank God go past that dude, don't care.
• 50:10
  All right, Steve Matti, Sam Burgess, Steve Maddow.
• 50:14
  Very very hard this. Is going to be hard to be with
• 50:16
  you. All right, Steve, Matti, Sonny
• 50:18
  Bill Williams. See that's a hard one.
• 50:22
  Like I've seen some shots that that Sonny Bill's put on back in
• 50:25
  my younger days, but I don't know Matto's shot on that
• 50:27
  Rabbitohs player bro sticks to sticks in my head for.
• 50:30
  It has to be the greatest day. Bro, that's written in history
• 50:34
  there. Sonny Bull, That's a.
• 50:35
  Tough match. It was a tough one, bro.
• 50:37
  All right. I think just for me personally.
• 50:41
  Steve Matto, yo. OK, Steve.
• 50:42
  Mattzai, Jared. While we had a hard grace.
• 50:45
  That's why. It didn't.
• 50:46
  I feel like why the Hargreaves didn't have that many mean.
• 50:49
  Yeah, but he's known as like, do you remember?
• 50:52
  When he got knocked out against the Tigers, yeah, yeah.
• 50:56
  Yeah. Was that off the scrum?
• 50:57
  Was yeah or before something like that It.
• 50:59
  Was the scrum that was it was actually no, it was to yeah,
• 51:02
  anyway, Steve, Mattoy, Nelson and I suffer Solomona.
• 51:06
  That's over, yeah. Steve Mattoy Matanunu.
• 51:10
  That's over. Steve Mattoye.
• 51:12
  Jerry Collins. Lee See, Jerry Collins and
• 51:16
  rugby. Bro I.
• 51:17
  Collins and rugby. Was different.
• 51:19
  Bro, he was built different and I grew up watching the All
• 51:21
  Blacks in the era too far out and there's there's some shots
• 51:26
  I've seen him put on and boys are going to sleep.
• 51:29
  Yeah. But I think it was, I can't
• 51:31
  remember the captain or the team that he played for as a captain
• 51:33
  of a team. Put a shot on him, bro.
• 51:35
  And he's sleeping and he gets up and carries on playing.
• 51:38
  I got it, wasn't even anything. Yeah, what?
• 51:41
  Doing what? Doing lad?
• 51:41
  Yeah. See that's that's a hard 1 like.
• 51:44
  All, all legal tackles as well. Yeah, because Steve Matthew
• 51:47
  doesn't care. He's gonna take you, take you
• 51:48
  out either way. Young Gummy would say Collins,
• 51:50
  but now I'd say Matthew, yeah. So, Matthew.
• 51:52
  Matthew. Yeah, Yeah.
• 51:53
  All right. Steve Collins.
• 51:54
  Was off the head, right? He was, yeah.
• 51:57
  Steve Matthew, Manu Tuolungi. See.
• 52:00
  It's the rugby right there again.
• 52:02
  Was he the winger or the center? The center.
• 52:03
  Center. Yeah, he was gangster.
• 52:06
  And I'll go meta agree. The one with the mean haymaker.
• 52:08
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Gee, that Haymaker's a nothing
• 52:11
  story. That was a hugly punch, like a.
• 52:13
  Like a hard slap, yeah. Hard slap.
• 52:16
  All right, Steve Meta, Ronnie Suyello.
• 52:19
  That's who's there. He's another rugby.
• 52:21
  Player Gee, hold on. Thank you.
• 52:24
  The person who's there? Who's there?
• 52:29
  Who's Ronnie Suyello? What position?
• 52:32
  Gee, he he's like, Oh no, no, I know, I know.
• 52:35
  Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.
• 52:37
  He could he. Yeah, you don't.
• 52:39
  Remember him? I remember dreadlocks.
• 52:41
  Yeah, that's. A ton of like, yeah, yeah, it
• 52:44
  looked like man on him. Yeah, so we go all.
• 52:47
  Right, Steve Mantai Ippola Miwaki.
• 52:51
  Oh, that's now you're Mantai. But I remember.
• 52:54
  OK, Steve Mantai, Paul Gallon. Oh Gee, he's the worst.
• 53:00
  Paul Gallon's the worst. The whole.
• 53:02
  Whole lot Steve Mettie hits Paul Gallon, Steve Mettie, David
• 53:05
  Klemmer. Yeah, Mettie bro.
• 53:07
  Steve Mettie, Courtney Law Laws. He was the English lock.
• 53:12
  He's known. OK.
• 53:12
  Yeah, that dude. You don't know?
• 53:15
  No, bro. He's pretty ruthless.
• 53:17
  Yeah, bro. He's actually.
• 53:18
  I'll show you some clips. I'll show you some clips.
• 53:21
  Steve Mettie bookies. Both are Bucky's both and he's a
• 53:25
  server server. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 53:26
  No Matt Tyberry. All right.
• 53:27
  And Steve Metto, Josh Papali. Sheesh has two big bodies.
• 53:34
  Not bodies, but Papali's shot on who?
• 53:36
  Was it that manly guy? There was yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 53:39
  yeah, yeah. I'm just gonna go now, Matt.
• 53:42
  Tybrow. Steve Mettiad is very Steve 100.
• 53:46
  Percent. Very.
• 53:47
  He is God named 100% Gee, I'll tell you this.
• 53:49
  I remember there's one time he got he retired from the NRL,
• 53:52
  Brian, there's this rumor going around.
• 53:54
  He's signed with Point Shiv Gee. And I was like there is no way.
• 53:58
  I've got I've got one more. Gee, I've got one more.
• 54:00
  Oh, yeah. Steve Metti.
• 54:01
  Ben Martolino, Bo. Yeah.
• 54:03
  Shocked. Ben Martolino was a gangster.
• 54:07
  Gee, yeah, yeah. He was a good shooter.
• 54:09
  You know, the one name you didn't bring up, and I thought
• 54:12
  you might have, was Bully. True.
• 54:14
  Yeah, he. Used to Shop Boys.
• 54:16
  Obviously being a young, a small guy myself, he was my other one.
• 54:20
  So when I got to playoff and maybe here in moldies, there was
• 54:23
  like a holy Hick moment. This is the very I used to watch
• 54:25
  growing up. But I think just holistically
• 54:28
  around overall, Matalina was a good one.
• 54:32
  Matalina is a good one. Thank you, Matalino J straight
• 54:35
  up. He's my favorite warrior of all
• 54:37
  time. Yeah, I've he I love you.
• 54:39
  I used to love watching him play so tough and he could do
• 54:42
  everything as a forward but like it.
• 54:44
  But obviously Steve Mentos like, yeah, I'll.
• 54:47
  Stuff it. We'll name a few more.
• 54:48
  Yeah. All right, Chris.
• 54:49
  And no G yes, when he flew all all of the.
• 54:54
  Yeah, yeah. OK, so let's start.
• 54:57
  Let's start with who did you say you said it's been Matalino.
• 55:00
  I'll still go to matzo but I love.
• 55:02
  The OK, let's go, Steve Matzo, Jerome Kaino.
• 55:07
  See, that's tough. That's just pure.
• 55:10
  That's pure. Just the variable for Kaino and
• 55:14
  I'll go to matzo all. Right Matzo or renet Ranger?
• 55:18
  Oh that's a good one bro. Because he's a runner too.
• 55:20
  But. Yeah, that's what I was going to
• 55:22
  say. I was going to try to switch it
• 55:23
  up, but not yet. We're doing hits, but if you're
• 55:25
  going bumps, it would be, it would be your inner Ranger,
• 55:28
  yeah. If it's obviously Matt.
• 55:30
  Tai yeah, it shows you it's different.
• 55:32
  No way it is different running to tackling.
• 55:34
  Yeah, Steve Mehta crescendo. I think because he he, he was a
• 55:36
  gun. He was.
• 55:38
  Pound for pound G, you can't beat him.
• 55:41
  Yeah, no, I'm going to get Matt Tai.
• 55:43
  All right, Steve Mehtai Gregglis.
• 55:47
  As a player, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 55:50
  That's right, that's how I was. Changing Matt Tai or Shawn
• 55:53
  Johnson Bury. He got Burgess.
• 55:59
  Nah, Nah, I don't. I don't believe that Burgess.
• 56:02
  Burgess was off foot or something.
• 56:03
  Yeah, I'm sorry, Shawn, you didn't tackle that.
• 56:06
  Yeah. Yeah, I've been watching a few
• 56:07
  things of Shawn lately, so I'll just keep on.
• 56:11
  The On the plead the 5th. Oh, what was it, 5th?
• 56:13
  6th, 6th. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 56:19
  Well, actually. Sam Berger.
• 56:20
  Sam Berger, See. Steve Matt, Sam Berger.
• 56:21
  See. It's it's runner and hitter like
• 56:23
  if you're if you're going both sides of the ball, which is what
• 56:26
  RNC is about. Yeah, going back to those names
• 56:29
  bro, like Renee Ranger, he could put.
• 56:31
  A shot, bro. That's what I was gonna see,
• 56:32
  yeah. And all those rugby players,
• 56:34
  bro, they're more runners than hitters.
• 56:36
  Too. So if you're gonna go top three
• 56:37
  that would compete at the RNC, who would you go?
• 56:42
  I wouldn't want to run it to Matt, so I put it that way.
• 56:44
  By 100%. But then I wouldn't want like
• 56:47
  Jerry Collins or you. Know those boys?
• 56:49
  Running into me either so oh. Bro Jerry Collinsby that would
• 56:54
  be. Cool to find the weight
• 56:55
  categories of some. Of those games, but then.
• 56:57
  I could be like, oh, if that guy's 100, would I want him to
• 56:59
  run against him or not sort of thing.
• 57:03
  But I don't think any of those boys will fit into the 100 under
• 57:05
  100 or 100. That time, maybe, yeah.
• 57:08
  Maybe it'd be a little. Bit Sando, I think Sander
• 57:14
  wouldn't care about the rules though.
• 57:15
  You'll be leaving without your head.
• 57:16
  I think 100. Percent.
• 57:18
  Yeah. All right, so Steve Metto then
• 57:20
  we're going to stick with that. Yeah.
• 57:21
  He is the king head I. Reckon as well I agree.
• 57:23
  Yeah. It's so hard to go past someone
• 57:25
  like Steve, though, Like, yeah, yeah.
• 57:27
  So yeah, go back. I remember when they were trying
• 57:30
  to, they were saying that he was going to go to point ship and we
• 57:32
  were at the Tigers. Oh.
• 57:33
  Abuse boy and I. Was like tigers, yeah, we're
• 57:36
  both at the time and I was like, there is no way this guy is
• 57:38
  coming to. I was like, Nah, don't if
• 57:40
  someone needs to step in. Yeah.
• 57:42
  And I was like. It's just I remember I came to
• 57:45
  training theaters to like, Gee, watch out for the back doors
• 57:47
  because I was full back. And they're like, watch out for
• 57:49
  the back doors. And Manu Batuubai City is going
• 57:50
  to go as well. Yeah, yeah.
• 57:51
  It's going to be Steve Mehta and Manu Batua.
• 57:53
  And they're like, Gee, watch out, we're going to give it to
• 57:55
  you and you're going to get smashed.
• 57:56
  Yeah, So I was grateful we didn't see him on the field.
• 57:59
  Hey. Because I was like, oh, my gosh,
• 58:01
  Yeah. But that edge was deadly, man.
• 58:02
  Steve Mehta, George Defore. Oh, my goodness, man.
• 58:05
  You know, So there probably isn't really an edge like that
• 58:09
  now. I mean, the game maybe has
• 58:10
  changed a little bit, but. What about Dragon's age?
• 58:14
  What about them? Sulu and yeah and No, no, no.
• 58:20
  Who's the other one? Suwa suwa.
• 58:24
  Yeah, he's mean. But now you know.
• 58:26
  Sully looks like exactly the same as the other wing opera.
• 58:28
  I know his name, I've just forgotten it.
• 58:29
  The one that does the cash. Cash, Christians.
• 58:32
  Yeah, yeah. And Leilua.
• 58:34
  Isn't he dropped? Oh, true.
• 58:36
  Sorry, no disrespect. Disrespect.
• 58:39
  Oh, I mean cuz oh, Steve, that's all there, right?
• 58:40
  Yeah. No, he's king hitter.
• 58:41
  Very. Much.
• 58:42
  Yeah, me. Yeah, different.
• 58:43
  Like I I didn't really base my my tick will take off anyone,
• 58:46
  but obviously if I couldn't do it any way he could very well.
• 58:50
  That's sort of my aim, but. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, me, bro,
• 58:54
  just before we wrap up as well, Obviously people can come to the
• 58:57
  event, people can support obviously you as well.
• 59:00
  How do we go about doing that? So you can go on the RNC page on
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• 59:07
  I'm pretty sure when you do buy a ticket or you know, if you're
• 59:10
  keen to come use the discount code ASH to get some bit of a
• 59:17
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• 59:19
  So. How much?
• 59:20
  Sports, Would they? Yeah, bro, it'll be mean.
• 59:22
  I'll definitely, I'm going to jump on that and make sure I hit
• 59:25
  up and support the borough as well.
• 59:27
  And obviously kind of just explore this event that I'm, I'm
• 59:31
  oblivious to it, to be honest. Yeah, because I'm like we've
• 59:34
  already said, I'm not a runner. I'm just, I'm just a wacker.
• 59:38
  Yeah. I'm a yeah, I'm a runner way up.
• 59:42
  I'm a chip over the top type of guy.
• 59:44
  Bro, you know, chip over the top, gather it, boom.
• 59:47
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  So obviously, yeah, get behind you, Barry.
• 59:50
  And all the best for a cosy too. And we appreciate you jump
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• 59:57
  Thanks heaps bro, it's going to be a mean mean event I can't
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