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Mac & Bone Hour 4: Jones Angell & Chapel Fowler · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: That's right.
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  Speaker 3: Heels fans, I know you've had a strut in your
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  Speaker 3: step this week after your boys go to Ireland and
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  Speaker 3: change the narrative by beating TCU. It has been a
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  Speaker 3: weak bone where we've been playing clip after clip of
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  Speaker 3: media members giving Belichick credit. raving about the team and
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  Speaker 3: i know we've been doing it all week as long
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  Speaker 3: bony and maybe just maybe bone we were part of
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  Speaker 3: the media that was doubting bill belichick going into the
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  Speaker 3: season maybe possibly maybe a little bit so he made
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  Speaker 3: us look wrong and and a lot of others and
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  Speaker 3: i'm excited to see where the season goes from here
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  Speaker 3: uh we're also excited bone to have the play-by-play voice
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  Speaker 3: of the Tar Heels with us from the Tar Heel
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  Speaker 3: Radio Network for another season on Thursdays talking football. He
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  Speaker 3: is Jones Angel and he joins us fresh off an
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  Speaker 3: awesome call of the final minutes of that game. And
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  Speaker 3: Jones joins us here on the Mac and Bone Show. Jones,
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  Speaker 3: what's going on, man? How you feeling this week?
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  Speaker 1: Oh man, great to be with you guys. Happy to
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  Speaker 1: be back, uh, back this side of the Atlantic. It
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  Speaker 1: was a quick trip, but, uh, a successful trip for
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  Speaker 1: the Tar Heels and certainly won. Man, guys, it just
• 1:33
  Speaker 1: felt like Carolina needed something good to happen, right? And
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  Speaker 1: so they went out there and made it happen. I thought,
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  Speaker 1: as we saw, the defense played really well. The offense
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  Speaker 1: did enough and Carolina got the win. And now they're
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  Speaker 1: kind of in this weird spot where you wish they
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  Speaker 1: could kind of get back out there and keep going,
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  Speaker 1: but not playing this weekend as they get back adjusted
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  Speaker 1: to be in this side of the Atlantic. And then
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  Speaker 1: they'll be ready to rock and roll next Saturday back
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  Speaker 1: in Kenan Stadium.
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  Speaker 2: The Ireland experience in general, what was it like? What
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  Speaker 2: was the reaction like from the people over there? Did
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  Speaker 2: they embrace the sport? What was the general vibe of
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  Speaker 2: college football in Ireland?
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  Speaker 1: It really was a fun experience. And I had never
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  Speaker 1: been to Dublin and to Ireland. And just wonderful people.
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  Speaker 1: Just very welcoming, very positive. They have a lot of
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  Speaker 1: fun over there, guys. I think that's fair to say.
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  Speaker 1: And they really did embrace the game. It was interesting.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't, you know, a lot of the Irish people
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  Speaker 1: who went to the game weren't necessarily Irish. wearing Tar
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  Speaker 1: Heel jerseys or TCU jerseys. You just saw people wearing
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  Speaker 1: anything they could get their hands on that was an
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  Speaker 1: American football jersey. So you saw all kinds of college jerseys,
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  Speaker 1: NFL jerseys, you know, whatever it might be. But they
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  Speaker 1: really embraced the game and really did a good job
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  Speaker 1: welcoming the two teams and making fans from both TCU
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  Speaker 1: and Carolina happy. uh feel welcome and enjoy the experience
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  Speaker 1: really a positive one now it's easy to say all
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  Speaker 1: this of course when you win the game because it
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  Speaker 1: makes you feel even better um but uh they really
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  Speaker 1: did a nice job and and really was.
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  Speaker 3: A fun event what impressed you the most jones about
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  Speaker 3: their their performance uh in the victory on saturday.
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  Speaker 1: You know guys and uh it's just how found the
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  Speaker 1: Carolina look, I think. And I think that was, that
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  Speaker 1: was job number one in this game. Obviously you're trying
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  Speaker 1: to win, but Carolina couldn't go out there and look
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  Speaker 1: like it didn't have its act together. Cause there were
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  Speaker 1: times last year, particularly early in the season where you
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  Speaker 1: felt like, man, it didn't look like Carolina had its
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  Speaker 1: act together very much. And so it just looked like
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  Speaker 1: a different football team and it just looked more It
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  Speaker 1: looked more put together. It looked the offense didn't put
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  Speaker 1: up huge numbers, but you could see what the plan was.
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  Speaker 1: And certainly they had some opportunities for big plays. Defense
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  Speaker 1: really stepped up time and time again in the big moments.
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  Speaker 1: And so I think that was it. It was just
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  Speaker 1: how much more fundamentally sound and strong, which let's be honest,
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  Speaker 1: I think that was something you absolutely expected. with Coach
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  Speaker 1: Belichick would be a team that would be fundamentally sound
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  Speaker 1: and wouldn't beat itself and wouldn't make silly mistakes. And
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  Speaker 1: there were times last year when that happened. And so
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  Speaker 1: I think you see this team and you go, yes,
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  Speaker 1: this is a Bill Belichick coach team. And so it's
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  Speaker 1: not a finished product, and Carolina's got a long way
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  Speaker 1: to go. But I think seeing that was a really
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  Speaker 1: big positive.
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  Speaker 2: Jones, you're around Belichick obviously more than we are, the
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  Speaker 2: radio show stuff too. How much more Belichick-like does he
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  Speaker 2: seem this year, comfort level, in control? How much more
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  Speaker 2: year two are you starting to see the guy that
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  Speaker 2: we thought was headed into Chapel Hill?
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  Speaker 1: You know, I think what I would say is I
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  Speaker 1: think he just feels, and this is totally my opinion,
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  Speaker 1: this is not something he has told me, It seems
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  Speaker 1: to me that he just feels kind of more comfortable
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  Speaker 1: with the role and how that role fits in in
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  Speaker 1: a college athletic department and within a university compared to
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  Speaker 1: in the NFL. Where in the NFL, you are your
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  Speaker 1: own entity, right? Like that team is its own thing
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  Speaker 1: and it doesn't have to worry about anything else and
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  Speaker 1: it's only that team and you've got complete control over
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  Speaker 1: everything that's happening with that team. It's a little bit
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  Speaker 1: different in college where you are part of the greater university.
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  Speaker 1: You are part of the greater athletic department. Bill Belichick
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  Speaker 1: is one of the most forward-facing people at the University
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  Speaker 1: of North Carolina, if not the most forward-facing person. And
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  Speaker 1: so that's just a little bit of a different role.
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  Speaker 1: You're still coaching the game. You're still trying to develop players.
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  Speaker 1: You're still trying to scheme things up. All those things
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  Speaker 1: are the same. But the role is a little bit different.
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  Speaker 1: And so this is, again, my opinion. It just seems
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  Speaker 1: like he has a better grasp and a better feel
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  Speaker 1: for what that role entails and is more comfortable in
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  Speaker 1: what he's being asked to do on top of, of course,
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  Speaker 1: also trying to be the best football coach that he
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  Speaker 1: can be.
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  Speaker 3: We're talking with Jones Angel, voice of the Heels. He
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  Speaker 3: is back from his trip to Ireland. Successful trip, to
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  Speaker 3: say the least, for the Heels beating TCU. They're off
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  Speaker 3: this week. They get East Tennessee State next week. Jones,
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  Speaker 3: let's talk about this offense. I really loved the Bobby
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  Speaker 3: Petrino hire when they made it, but I just kind
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  Speaker 3: of wondered, okay, what talent does he have to work
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  Speaker 3: with there? Man, I love the way Billy Edwards played.
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  Speaker 3: It wasn't necessarily spectacular, but dang, like you use the
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  Speaker 3: word sound everywhere. It was sound. It was solid. What
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  Speaker 3: do you think about this offense? I know it was
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  Speaker 3: only 15 points, but I don't know. I feel very
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  Speaker 3: optimistic about what Petrino might be able to do with
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  Speaker 3: this unit.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's kind of one of those things where it's like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, I can't necessarily define it, but if
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  Speaker 1: I see it, I know it. It's one of those
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  Speaker 1: kinds of things. And it just looked like, it looked
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  Speaker 1: like better offense. You could just, I think anybody who
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  Speaker 1: watches football, watched them play and went, okay, yeah, that's
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  Speaker 1: a better offensive team than it was a year ago.
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  Speaker 1: And you're right. I mean, the stats aren't crazy. It was,
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  Speaker 1: I think 330 yards, somewhere in that range. And And
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  Speaker 1: the 15 points, I will say the conditions were challenging.
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  Speaker 1: And then you saw that for both teams, that it
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  Speaker 1: was wet and it was such an early game as
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  Speaker 1: far as in the season. So those kind of things,
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  Speaker 1: you anticipate some growth from that. But I just think
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  Speaker 1: in watching them play, you could tell that there was.
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  Speaker 1: a really well thought out plan. There were a lot
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  Speaker 1: of guys that were open, which was exciting to see.
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  Speaker 1: And I thought Billy Edwards did a really good job.
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  Speaker 1: There were probably two or three throws he'd like to
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  Speaker 1: have back. But the big thing with Billy Edwards was
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  Speaker 1: his experience. The fact that he had played in 30
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  Speaker 1: college games, that he had taken more snaps than all
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  Speaker 1: the other quarterbacks on Carolina's roster combined. Does Billy Edwards
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  Speaker 1: have the most high-end talent on Carolina's roster at that position?
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  Speaker 1: I don't think so. But what he does have is
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  Speaker 1: all that bank of experience. He is not going to
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  Speaker 1: get flustered. If he makes a bad throw, he's going
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  Speaker 1: to come back. He's going to get you in the
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  Speaker 1: right position. Kind of all that stuff that you expect
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  Speaker 1: from an older guy. And so for that to be
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  Speaker 1: on display in a game where you needed that kind
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  Speaker 1: of stuff, because Carolina does have young players and the
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  Speaker 1: Tar Heels do have some new pieces. And so to
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  Speaker 1: have kind of that calming veteran presence, I thought Billy
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  Speaker 1: Edwards really did a good job with that. There was
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  Speaker 1: one Carolina got a really bad delay a game late
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  Speaker 1: in the game. That was the only time that I thought, man,
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  Speaker 1: that's not what you would expect from an older guy.
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  Speaker 1: But other than that, I thought he really played that
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  Speaker 1: role and did what he was asked to do at
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  Speaker 1: a really high level.
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  Speaker 2: Jones, good luck in basketball season coming up here soon,
• 8:53
  Speaker 2: trying to figure out who's on the other teams of
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  Speaker 2: the games you're calling. But we're here if you need us, though, man.
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  Speaker 2: We'll try to help you out if we can.
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  Speaker 1: I've got to figure out who's on the Tar Heel team.
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  Speaker 1: Carolina's got 11 new guys on the basketball side. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I will say this, guys. In fact, Coach Malone has
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  Speaker 1: a press conference later this morning that I'll be heading to. But, man,
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  Speaker 1: I've been super impressed with Michael Malone. And Carolina hadn't
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  Speaker 1: played a game yet, but he has just done– everything right,
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  Speaker 1: whether it's the staff that he's built, the roster that
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  Speaker 1: he put together, considering the fact that he was hired
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  Speaker 1: that day the portal opened and he had no experience
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  Speaker 1: in that world, the way that he's been able to
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  Speaker 1: manage kind of the Carolina family aspect of the Tar
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  Speaker 1: Heel basketball position. I've just been super impressed and really
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  Speaker 1: excited to see what his team has here coming soon.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. You've got a lot
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  Speaker 3: to look forward to there, Jones. We appreciate you joining us, man.
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  Speaker 3: We'll talk to you next week. We'll talk to you
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  Speaker 3: every Thursday during the season.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for coming on.
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  Speaker 1: Looking forward to it, guys. Talk to you soon.
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  Speaker 3: All right, there you go, Jones Angel. Voice of the
• 9:58
  Speaker 3: Heels back with us Thursdays at 9 p.m. o'clock for
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  Speaker 3: another season. And, man, did that season start great. Finney
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  Speaker 3: got to be loving this segment. I mean, Heels fans
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  Speaker 3: got to be loving it. There's some actual Bill Belichick
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  Speaker 3: football momentum. The Tar Heels, I read the article about
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  Speaker 3: the basketball team yesterday inside Carolina talking about how they
• 10:17
  Speaker 3: spent over $ 20 million on that roster, which is absolutely
• 10:21
  Speaker 3: what they need to be doing at a blue blood
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  Speaker 3: like that. So I don't know, man. Heels fans got
• 10:26
  Speaker 3: some stuff to be excited about.
• 10:28
  Speaker 2: He's dating. Heels football's winning. It's all fit dog right.
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  Speaker 4: Now, man.
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  Speaker 2: It is your world. That's true. He's got the third.
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  Speaker 3: Date on Saturday. Oh, you got the dancing day, right? Oh,
• 10:37
  Speaker 3: we got to do that session. We got to record
• 10:39
  Speaker 3: a video of me giving you some tips, baby.
• 10:42
  Speaker 2: Let your dancing Mr. Miyagi help you out here. You
• 10:46
  Speaker 2: do know Mr. Miyagi, right?
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  Speaker 5: I know Mr. Miyagi.
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  Speaker 4: The bigger question is, is when does this come to
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  Speaker 4: a screeching halt? And which comes to a halt first?
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  Speaker 4: The Bill Belichick football momentum? The dating life? Or does
• 11:01
  Speaker 4: Michael Malone prove to be a flop? Boy, one of
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  Speaker 4: these three things are going to happen.
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  Speaker 2: Look on the bright side. Yeah, why are you doing this?
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  Speaker 2: You feel like you can't have all three of these
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  Speaker 2: things at once? Heels football playoffs. Heels basketball.
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  Speaker 1: One loss.
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  Speaker 2: And you're married by the final four. Playoffs and married.
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  Speaker 6: Married.
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  Speaker 2: I think— We've got to be honest. We probably— Basketball
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  Speaker 2: will be all right. That's not a problem.
• 11:25
  Speaker 3: Heels football, because you're going to play East Tennessee State
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  Speaker 3: and win, but then you're going to have Clemson and
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  Speaker 3: Notre Dame. I'm not saying you can't beat Clemson. I'm
• 11:35
  Speaker 3: not saying that now, but you're not going to beat
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  Speaker 3: Notre Dame. You could be 2-2, which, again, is not
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  Speaker 3: terrible if you lose to Clemson. You also have to compete.
• 11:45
  Speaker 3: How do you play them? You've got to compete against Clemson.
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  Speaker 3: Last year was a joke. With that ridiculous 7-win Clemson
• 11:51
  Speaker 3: team and what y'all did. But I've got to be honest, Fit,
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  Speaker 3: and I know you hate when I say this. I
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  Speaker 3: said it the other day. I don't think this girl's
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  Speaker 3: going away. I think she's a smitten kitten.
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  Speaker 5: She'll be ghosting me by the end of the day now.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks, Matt. Do you feel the same way, Bone?
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  Speaker 3: Like, this feels like, I don't know, man. I think
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  Speaker 3: something's happening with Fit.
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  Speaker 5: No, the problem isn't her. The problem is me.
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  Speaker 2: Where did your confidence go on anything? Oh, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 2: You were strutting around like the cock of the walk
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  Speaker 2: two days ago.
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  Speaker 5: Slow down. Can I admit something to you two, just
• 12:28
  Speaker 5: y'all two, no one else?
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  Speaker 2: Do you have some disease or something?
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  Speaker 1: No. Oh.
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  Speaker 4: I'm smitten, and I don't know what to do with it.
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  Speaker 2: Whoa, what an announcement.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Fitties in love. Roses are red, violets are blue. That's
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  Speaker 2: not going to work. Trying to write a poem for
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  Speaker 2: you on the air. That might have had a dirty
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  Speaker 2: ending there. That was going to be an Andrew Dice claim.
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  Speaker 2: Roses are red, my bottom. No, I can't use that either.
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  Speaker 2: I'll write it for you during the break. Oh, man, Finney.
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  Speaker 2: I love it, though, baby. I'm so excited. Go into
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  Speaker 2: the chapel to get Fowler's next.
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  Speaker 1: On the show.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think I'm talking about? Chapel Fowler's on next. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: I see what you did there. Not saying he's going
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  Speaker 2: to a chapel. We're going to Chapel Fowler next. He's
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  Speaker 2: going to talk all things Clemson, the LSU game coming up. And, Mac,
• 13:19
  Speaker 2: how is Dabo going to handle this world of college football?
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  Speaker 2: He didn't like it before. How's he holding up now?
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  Speaker 2: We'll ask Chapel that. Sports Radio, 92.7 WFNZ.
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  Speaker 3: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ. We're sitting here on the day
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  Speaker 3: where week one begins, Bone, tonight. Wake Akron, Georgia Tech.
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  Speaker 3: colorado among the notable ones it starts a stretch of
• 14:02
  Speaker 3: five days of college football five days in a row
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  Speaker 3: but the text line bone is buzzing about fitty's love
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  Speaker 3: life fitty's love life upstaging the start of college football
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  Speaker 3: season that's exciting fit and you can tell people are excited.
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  Speaker 2: For you man that's cool That is definitely cool. Should
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  Speaker 2: I read the poem I made for him? Can I
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  Speaker 2: read that off? I don't know if you can read
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  Speaker 2: that on the air. Have you cleaned it up since then? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, good.
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  Speaker 2: Roses are red, my parts are blue, my heart was
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  Speaker 2: dead till I found you. My parts are blue, okay.
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  Speaker 2: You slightly cleaned that up there. Oh, my goodness. Definitely
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  Speaker 2: much more usable there.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 2: Roses are red, my parts are blue, my heart was
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  Speaker 2: dead till I found you.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, man. You are.
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  Speaker 2: You got away with words there, Bone. I'm a real...
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: Who's the... Who's a name a poet? You're a regular Longfellow.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, now.
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  Speaker 2: All right. Our next guest, Bone. He's still there.
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  Speaker 3: Our next guest is not here to talk about Finney's
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  Speaker 3: love life or these ridiculous poems.
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  Speaker 2: He is here.
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  Speaker 3: To talk about the clemson tigers the outlook for the
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: season but the just this week's game man this week's
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  Speaker 3: game has so many juicy storylines it is crazy chapel
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: fowler from the state newspaper in south carolina clemson's beat
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  Speaker 3: writer there joins us on the mac and bone show
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  Speaker 3: chapel how you doing man what's going on what's up.
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  Speaker 7: Guys good to be on with you i'm excited to
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  Speaker 7: finally uh be in a press box and cover a
• 15:34
  Speaker 7: football game after all the craziness of this week. But
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  Speaker 7: that's what makes college football fun.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, no, we got you on for the court hearings.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we just talked to your– we're going to talk court,
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  Speaker 3: and we just talked to your editor.
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  Speaker 2: He's sending you to Louisiana for the court case.
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  Speaker 1: 1 p.m. today.
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  Speaker 3: You've got to be there early. He said he's going
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  Speaker 3: to bring you home before the game. No need to
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: be at the game. Anyway, but obviously the backdrop of
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  Speaker 3: Lane Kiffin and the controversy of him wanting to bring guys–
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  Speaker 3: Back from the NFL is a big part of this.
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  Speaker 3: Dabo Sweeney, as he always does, spoke from the heart
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  Speaker 3: about it, called it embarrassing, had his little no pun intended,
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  Speaker 3: stay in my lane joke as well. And sure enough,
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  Speaker 3: the national media the next day is debating, is it
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  Speaker 3: fair or foul for Dabo to say all that stuff?
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  Speaker 3: What did you think about it? Like, did you, should
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  Speaker 3: he have, there's also a theory of people. Oh no,
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  Speaker 3: we made Lane Kiffin mad. Now look out on Saturday. Like,
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  Speaker 3: were you kind of glad Dabo spoke like that? You,
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  Speaker 3: did you think maybe he shouldn't have? What'd you think
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  Speaker 3: about that?
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  Speaker 7: I was happy he did because it was interesting and
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  Speaker 7: gave me something to write about. I wasn't sure if
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  Speaker 7: he was going to though, like this off season has
• 16:46
  Speaker 7: been really relatively quiet for Clemson. I kind of just,
• 16:50
  Speaker 7: you know, work in the dark, dark underdog status. Uh,
• 16:53
  Speaker 7: you know, there's no preseason expectations like there were last year. Uh,
• 16:57
  Speaker 7: you know, on his radio show, he kind of danced
• 16:59
  Speaker 7: around that topic. I didn't know how much he was
• 17:01
  Speaker 7: going to dig into it on Tuesday. Um, but you know,
• 17:03
  Speaker 7: I asked him if he's frustrated and he tells me
• 17:06
  Speaker 7: he's at a loss for words and then proceeds to
• 17:07
  Speaker 7: deliver a perfect two minute soundbite.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: With lots of quotable nuggets.
• 17:11
  Speaker 7: And obviously that no, uh, pun intended, we stay in
• 17:14
  Speaker 7: our lane comment at the end. So he obviously had
• 17:17
  Speaker 7: a lot of thoughts on it. Um, I don't think
• 17:19
  Speaker 7: it's going to affect anything too much. I mean, that
• 17:22
  Speaker 7: distraction is going to, if there's, if that's going to
• 17:24
  Speaker 7: impact one team in this game, it's going to be LSU.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 17:27
  Speaker 7: Um, so, you know, I, I appreciate him teeing off
• 17:30
  Speaker 7: on it and giving his true thoughts. I think given
• 17:32
  Speaker 7: kind of how outspoken he's been about some of the
• 17:34
  Speaker 7: changes in college football and what he likes and doesn't like, um,
• 17:38
  Speaker 7: it probably is, is true to form and, and would
• 17:40
  Speaker 7: have been tough for him to not, you know, speak
• 17:43
  Speaker 7: out against this stuff because it goes against everything he,
• 17:45
  Speaker 7: he kind of believes in as a college football purist. Um,
• 17:48
  Speaker 7: But I was pleasantly surprised he went there. I didn't
• 17:50
  Speaker 7: know if he was going to.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: This state of college football, though, it's easy to see
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: where Chappell, this has to be driving him nuts, right?
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: Because he was already not liking the way it was before.
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: Then it got about 20 times crazier. So right now, Dabo,
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: like internally in private moments, has to be thinking, what
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: in the world happened to this sport that I already
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: didn't love where it was going earlier? Yeah.
• 18:13
  Speaker 7: Well, as he joked to us, he was at a
• 18:15
  Speaker 7: Browns practice in early June as a guest of Deshaun Watson,
• 18:19
  Speaker 7: obviously his former Clemson quarterback and Daquan Wright was on
• 18:22
  Speaker 7: the field that day. So he said he was probably
• 18:24
  Speaker 7: going to get turned in for tampering because he was
• 18:25
  Speaker 7: out there watching Daquan Wright.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: And maybe he should have paid.
• 18:29
  Speaker 7: More attention to what was going on on the field. Um,
• 18:32
  Speaker 7: but I mean, I think it's easy fodder for people
• 18:34
  Speaker 7: to poke holes in. Um, I've tried to keep in
• 18:38
  Speaker 7: mind that, you know, these guys, even if they're made
• 18:40
  Speaker 7: eligible today by whatever court ruling we get or don't get, um,
• 18:44
  Speaker 7: like they might not even play against Clemson. I don't
• 18:46
  Speaker 7: think any of those guys are really going to swing,
• 18:48
  Speaker 7: you know, Saturday's game one way or the other. I
• 18:50
  Speaker 7: think if LSU wins, it's just going to be because
• 18:52
  Speaker 7: they're more talented than Clemson across the board. Not because
• 18:55
  Speaker 7: they added Daquan Ryder, the Notre Dame edge rusher, who
• 18:58
  Speaker 7: was just okay as a senior or that defensive tackle
• 19:01
  Speaker 7: from Ole Miss. Um, But, I mean, it's very much
• 19:04
  Speaker 7: a firestorm topic across the country. I think it's very
• 19:07
  Speaker 7: much a one-year issue because it just applies to Class
• 19:10
  Speaker 7: of 2022 guys.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: But I don't know.
• 19:13
  Speaker 7: I mean, lawsuits get thrown out everywhere now. So maybe
• 19:16
  Speaker 7: I think people don't want to see it become a trend.
• 19:18
  Speaker 7: So I understand why there's such a reaction to it,
• 19:21
  Speaker 7: even though it's not like they're plucking a five-year NFL
• 19:24
  Speaker 7: starter out of the league and putting.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Them on the roster.
• 19:26
  Speaker 7: It's a little bit more muted than that in terms of–
• 19:28
  Speaker 7: The talent, they're returning, but it's still pissing.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: A lot of people off.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: Definitely.
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: Chapel Fowler is with us. He covers Clemson for the
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: state newspaper. All right, Chapel, I swear we're going to
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: actually start talking about this very interesting game, but I
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: have one more soap opera.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: Game?
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, there's a game.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: Are they going to actually play a game or just
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: keep doing pressers and stuff?
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: One more soap opera question.
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: So John Talty has written this book about Lane Kiffin,
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: and he's putting out all these different excerpts, and Vanity
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: Fair kind of has the excerpt from the article, and
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: John Talty is reporting that Lane Kiffin played a role
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: in in Clemson, I guess, being aware of the way
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: that Ole Miss went about tampering on linebacker Luke Farrelly
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: after he signed with Clemson in the portal and was,
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: you know, going to classes and stuff. And I guess
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: Talty also, you know, points out that, you know, that
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: Lane was kind of involved in kind of pushing Clemson
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: towards turning.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: In Ole Miss.
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: Do you have a, I mean, have you, what do
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: you know about this? Is this like, have you kind
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: of found any evidence that that lane played a role
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: in that?
• 20:38
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that's another interesting one. Again, another one that I
• 20:41
  Speaker 7: wasn't sure Dabo was going to tee off on like
• 20:43
  Speaker 7: he did last night. I didn't, I didn't think it
• 20:46
  Speaker 7: was a huge deal. And I think the truth probably
• 20:49
  Speaker 7: lies somewhere in the middle. Dabo did tell us last
• 20:52
  Speaker 7: night and kind of responding to this story that yes,
• 20:54
  Speaker 7: Lane Kiffin was among the coaches who reached out to
• 20:57
  Speaker 7: him after Farrelly was left for Ole Miss.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: You remember at.
• 21:00
  Speaker 7: That point, you know, Devin didn't call him out until
• 21:01
  Speaker 7: about a week after this whole thing went down, but
• 21:04
  Speaker 7: it was really obvious what had happened. There was a
• 21:06
  Speaker 7: lot of reporting out there. College football world was kind
• 21:08
  Speaker 7: of in an uproar the second he left for Ole Miss.
• 21:11
  Speaker 7: So there was about a week of kind of brewing
• 21:13
  Speaker 7: before Devin went public with his complaints. So he did
• 21:16
  Speaker 7: tell us that Lane was among the coaches who reached
• 21:18
  Speaker 7: out after that, but he was one of many. I mean,
• 21:22
  Speaker 7: you can imagine if someone gets busted for something, the
• 21:25
  Speaker 7: first thing other people do is chime in, you know,
• 21:27
  Speaker 7: with their own experiences with something that happened. I'm sure
• 21:30
  Speaker 7: he had a mid-major coach reach out and say, oh
• 21:32
  Speaker 7: my gosh, Ole Miss was so annoying, so crazy, trying
• 21:35
  Speaker 7: to tamper with one of our players last year. All
• 21:38
  Speaker 7: sorts of information like that. And I don't doubt that
• 21:41
  Speaker 7: getting those stories probably didn't motivate him, but probably made
• 21:45
  Speaker 7: him more confident in what he was thinking about doing.
• 21:48
  Speaker 7: But he told us last night, and I do believe this,
• 21:50
  Speaker 7: you know, Clemson kind of had– Ole Miss dead to rights.
• 21:54
  Speaker 7: As soon as the guy left, they had text messages
• 21:57
  Speaker 7: and this whole timeline, and they had kind of been
• 22:00
  Speaker 7: keeping track of everything and didn't really.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: Need any additional motivation to go public with it.
• 22:06
  Speaker 7: I think probably hearing from other coaches chiming in and saying, yeah, man,
• 22:09
  Speaker 7: you got to do this, probably didn't hurt Dabo's logic,
• 22:11
  Speaker 7: but I do think at the end of the day,
• 22:13
  Speaker 7: it was a Clemson and Dabo decision. I mean, he
• 22:16
  Speaker 7: was sitting up there with his athletic director, and that's,
• 22:18
  Speaker 7: you know, if you're going to get a sign off
• 22:20
  Speaker 7: from anybody to do that. It's your AD.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: It's not Lane Kiffin.
• 22:23
  Speaker 7: So I think he was in the mix there, but
• 22:25
  Speaker 7: I don't think he was the sole cause of everything.
• 22:28
  Speaker 7: So Dabo, again, didn't exactly shoot down that report. I
• 22:31
  Speaker 7: don't think it's totally inaccurate. But again, truth probably somewhere
• 22:34
  Speaker 7: in the middle on that one. It was mostly a
• 22:36
  Speaker 7: Dabo decision.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: Chappell, as far as the Clemson team itself goes, where
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: do you think they'll be most improved from a year ago?
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: And what's the biggest question you still have about this team?
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: I think their secondary is going to be a lot better.
• 22:52
  Speaker 7: Just ridiculous number of coverage busts and 50, 60, 70-yard
• 22:56
  Speaker 7: touchdowns allowed at various points last year. They've overhauled their
• 23:00
  Speaker 7: coaching staff a little bit. Tom Allen, they promoted his son,
• 23:04
  Speaker 7: Thomas Allen, into kind of a defensive pass game coordinator
• 23:08
  Speaker 7: analyst role late last year, actually. And that kind of
• 23:12
  Speaker 7: improved back in communication and help them kind of seal
• 23:15
  Speaker 7: up some of those coverage at the end of the year,
• 23:17
  Speaker 7: the last.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: Four or five games.
• 23:18
  Speaker 7: So I think with that scheme in the second year
• 23:21
  Speaker 7: and some of the transfers they brought in, Corey Myrick
• 23:24
  Speaker 7: is a safety from Southern Miss. Jerome Carter from Old Dominion.
• 23:27
  Speaker 7: Ashton Hampton is a junior corner that came back from
• 23:30
  Speaker 7: last year. And it's probably going to be an NFL,
• 23:32
  Speaker 7: you know, top two or three round draft pick next year.
• 23:35
  Speaker 7: I think that group will be tighter. Questions at quarterback,
• 23:38
  Speaker 7: obviously Vazina will start.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: We know that.
• 23:41
  Speaker 7: Tate Reynolds will probably play, so we'll have to see
• 23:43
  Speaker 7: how that plays out.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: That's a big one.
• 23:46
  Speaker 7: I think linebacker and offensive line are two positions where
• 23:49
  Speaker 7: they're going to be breaking in some new guys that
• 23:51
  Speaker 7: we haven't really seen play on a super big stage
• 23:54
  Speaker 7: consistently before. So I think they have to replace around
• 23:58
  Speaker 7: 13 or 14 starters from last year between offense and
• 24:02
  Speaker 7: defense who's gone, who transferred and went to the league.
• 24:05
  Speaker 7: I mean, you lose nine NFL draft picks. You're going
• 24:07
  Speaker 7: to have to fill some holes. So I think it
• 24:10
  Speaker 7: starts with quarterback, but there's a lot of other positions
• 24:12
  Speaker 7: that I'm really interested to see on Saturday to see
• 24:15
  Speaker 7: how they fare against a big-time opponent.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: Chapel, let's talk about how they'll fare on Saturday. My God,
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: I would love to see Dabo and the Tigers bounce back.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: I'd love to see Lane Kiffin take an L, quite frankly. But,
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: you know, you brought up the talent level that Lane
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: has assembled there. What are your feelings? Can Clemson go
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: down there and win this game? And if so, how
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: do they do it? What do you think?
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:44
  Speaker 7: One of my coworkers, uh, Larry Williams joked on Twitter, uh,
• 24:48
  Speaker 7: that Clemson is America's team right now for the first
• 24:50
  Speaker 7: time in like forever, right?
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: Like maybe even a decade.
• 24:53
  Speaker 7: Back to when they took on Alabama in that, in
• 24:56
  Speaker 7: that first national title.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Like it's, they are really rarely.
• 25:00
  Speaker 7: On the positive side of all this public opinion that
• 25:03
  Speaker 7: they are right now. So I think there is a
• 25:04
  Speaker 7: little juice and momentum there and, you know, nobody's picking
• 25:07
  Speaker 7: them to win and they're going to play a little
• 25:09
  Speaker 7: bit more freely because of that. Uh, but with all
• 25:12
  Speaker 7: the LSU stuff and their talent alone, like I think
• 25:14
  Speaker 7: about that, but also just Clemson's trend in season openers, man.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
• 25:18
  Speaker 7: I looked this up and I saw it and I
• 25:20
  Speaker 7: had to calculate it myself. It was so crazy. They
• 25:23
  Speaker 7: have averaged 6.6 points per game in.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: Their last three season openers.
• 25:27
  Speaker 7: They had seven points in the Labor Day Monday loss
• 25:29
  Speaker 7: at Duke in 2023, three points against Georgia in 2024,
• 25:34
  Speaker 7: 10 points against LSU last year. Again, those were all
• 25:36
  Speaker 7: Garrett Riley offenses. So that's not Chad Morris is doing, um,
• 25:40
  Speaker 7: And they've also lost all three of those games.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: They've lost four or five openers.
• 25:44
  Speaker 7: For whatever reason, just those first games have been really
• 25:46
  Speaker 7: tough for them. And it helps when you're going up
• 25:49
  Speaker 7: against a good team like LSU, like you're not trotting
• 25:51
  Speaker 7: out against the SCS team. But just with everything going
• 25:55
  Speaker 7: on and the pageantry and the drama, I do think
• 25:57
  Speaker 7: over time that they'll succumb to that. You know, it's
• 26:00
  Speaker 7: a ridiculous road game environment. I think they'll lose by,
• 26:03
  Speaker 7: I don't know, roughly two touchdowns, but I think it'll
• 26:07
  Speaker 7: be close for the first half or so. And their
• 26:10
  Speaker 7: goal obviously is to kind of not let that game
• 26:12
  Speaker 7: affect stuff going forward because there's still 11 more games
• 26:15
  Speaker 7: after that can still have a decent season. But yeah,
• 26:18
  Speaker 7: I think it'll be close for a while, but ultimately
• 26:20
  Speaker 7: not close.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: Chapel, who's an X factor guy or two. We know
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: some of the main players for Clemson, but who's a
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: guy or two. Do you think that will make a
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: huge difference this year? Kind of flying under the radar
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: a little bit.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 26:34
  Speaker 7: Uh, Elliot Washington is a defensive back. They got from
• 26:37
  Speaker 7: Penn state who might start immediately or will be right
• 26:40
  Speaker 7: in that mix, whether he's a corner or nickel, I'm
• 26:42
  Speaker 7: not sure. Um, but, but him and Marcus strong and
• 26:46
  Speaker 7: Andy Berberia, those are two transfers on the defensive line
• 26:48
  Speaker 7: that I think might also start and be really good
• 26:51
  Speaker 7: for them. Uh, On offense, obviously you've got Weskill and Moore.
• 26:54
  Speaker 7: Those are two probably top three round, again, NFL draft
• 26:58
  Speaker 7: picks next year. Those are both juniors, super productive. But
• 27:02
  Speaker 7: their starting slot guy is Tyler Brown, who led them
• 27:04
  Speaker 7: in receiving, oh my gosh, it was like three years ago,
• 27:07
  Speaker 7: back when he was a true freshman in 2023, and
• 27:09
  Speaker 7: really has not gotten into that form since then. Part
• 27:12
  Speaker 7: of that is because he was playing behind Antonio Williams.
• 27:16
  Speaker 7: But he's their starting slot heading into this senior year.
• 27:18
  Speaker 7: I think if he can kind of elevate his game
• 27:21
  Speaker 7: That's a really good starting receiver trio. And the more
• 27:25
  Speaker 7: weapons Christopher Vazina has, you know, the less superman stuff
• 27:28
  Speaker 7: he has to do, like just play pitch and catch
• 27:30
  Speaker 7: and get the ball to your dude. So I think
• 27:32
  Speaker 7: if Brown can kind of step up his game to
• 27:34
  Speaker 7: where he was a few years ago, and we've seen
• 27:37
  Speaker 7: him do consistently, and give them like that clear top
• 27:40
  Speaker 7: three of ACC receivers that might be among the best
• 27:43
  Speaker 7: in the league, I think that makes things even easier
• 27:46
  Speaker 7: for Vazina. So if that can happen and they can
• 27:49
  Speaker 7: rely on their offense a little bit more, I think–
• 27:51
  Speaker 7: they'll be a little bit more competitive than they were
• 27:53
  Speaker 7: last year.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: All right, chapel.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: We got like a minute, but I can't get you
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: out of here without asking about the quarterback position, the
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: quarterback situation you mentioned. And I know Dabo mentioned it
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: this week to the possibility of Tate Reynolds playing some
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: two with his Zena starting. Do you kind of feel
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: like this season could head towards where Tate Reynolds takes
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: that job away? Or do you think I shouldn't, you know,
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: rush that?
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: What do you think?
• 28:18
  Speaker 7: I think there's definitely a chance of that because Dabo
• 28:21
  Speaker 7: was notably forthcoming on all things quarterback on Tuesday. In
• 28:24
  Speaker 7: a way, he usually is not heading into a game
• 28:26
  Speaker 7: week with any specific position. Vazina will start. Reynolds will
• 28:31
  Speaker 7: probably play. I think the biggest takeaway for me is,
• 28:34
  Speaker 7: you know, they have practiced a lot and Vazina has
• 28:37
  Speaker 7: come out as the number one out of all that practice.
• 28:39
  Speaker 7: But now you have to go play games. And I
• 28:41
  Speaker 7: think this is an ongoing competition that will continue to
• 28:44
  Speaker 7: pretty much every week until someone truly separates themselves. And
• 28:47
  Speaker 7: then maybe even after that. So I'm going to be
• 28:50
  Speaker 7: watching that position with magnifying glass all season, um, knowing that,
• 28:54
  Speaker 7: you know, Reynolds is going to play and that this
• 28:56
  Speaker 7: job is not business for the full season. Devo said
• 28:59
  Speaker 7: there's no lifetime contracts, uh, I think makes it that
• 29:02
  Speaker 7: much more interesting. And I think a ton of people
• 29:03
  Speaker 7: are excited, uh, to see what Reynolds can do on
• 29:06
  Speaker 7: a field, myself included.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: No doubt.
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: It's going to be fun. That game on Saturday is
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: going to be fun. Have fun covering it. And if
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: you're a Clemson fan or just interested in all these storylines,
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: follow Chappell on Twitter, at Chappell Fowler, and read his
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: stuff at the state newspaper, thestate.com.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Chappell.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: We appreciate it. Enjoy the game Saturday. Congrats on the engagement, too, man.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: That's awesome.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you guys. I really appreciate it.
• 29:32
  Speaker 7: I'll have fun down there in Baton Rouge for you
• 29:34
  Speaker 7: on Saturday.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: All right. Be good, man. There you go. That is
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: Chapel Fowler. We're here for you. You trying to get
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: an invite?
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we had him on, I think, when you weren't here.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: Is that right? Yeah, I was in Nashville.
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: Because I already told him how much of a fan
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: we are. of his better half his fiancee augusta stone
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: yeah she was she got rave reviews bone when she
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: came on she.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: Came so now i'm the creepy guy he's gonna think
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: that they did this.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: Last time yeah i just letting you know why he
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: was kind of like you know downplayed it yeah because
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: um uh we are very happy for those two crazy
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: kids i was.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: Gonna think they're really into my engagement i want to
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: hear i I didn't know. They're obsessing over this. He's
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: going to go tell Augusta. They're obsessing. Well, thanks to
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: his dad, Scott, for doing the article on Mabel this year.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: I know that Chappell was involved in that. There you go.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: Chappell told his dad, hey, this is a special story here.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: So he was a part of that, too.
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: If Scott Fowler is listening or anybody that knows him
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: or anybody at the Observer is listening, I got a
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: story idea. Murphy the puppy. Could you do a second
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: article about T-Bone's dog, or is that overkill? Tara's buying
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: him a bow tie today. He's going to be wearing
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: a bow tie here at some point soon. Is he
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: going to a wedding or something? What's going on there?
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: Are you getting him informal attire? I don't know. Apparently
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: he might be going to Harris Cherokee Casino at some
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: point for the company.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: Oh, my gosh.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: I sent you some interesting information. Are you doing an
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: update here? I don't want to bury your lead here.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: Are you doing an update?
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: You're good, Bone.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: Mac, Vinny told us today that Charlotte 49ers have a
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: transfer that came in. Vinny, do we know how to
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: say his name? Is it Chase or Chaz? Do we
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: know how to say his name exactly?
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: I don't know how to pronounce it.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: C-H-A-Z-E. He comes from South Alabama, Mac, where he was
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: the Sun— this is for basketball— the Sun Belt Player of the Year.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: 19 points per game, 5 rebounds, 5 assists, scored 38 twice.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: 29 against Auburn, and he will be on the 49ers
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: this season.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: Is he a fifth-year guy? Why is this happening right now?
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: I believe he's a fifth-year guy. Yeah, I was going
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: to say, it's got to be the only reason it's happening.
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: Sunbelt's a pretty good league, and he's the player of
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: the year. Scored 29 against Auburn last year, and that's
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: a big get.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: For the Niners. That's a huge get. Let me double
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: check the fifth-year thing.
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: So he replaces Chisel James, the son of Edron James,
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: who they lost recently.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: So they bring in, and that's got to be Chase Chisel.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: C-H-A-Z-E? Chase, I'm guessing? He is a guard, 6'6, guard, yes.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: So there we go. So they lost some jizzle, but
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: they got a chase.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Man, I'd like to West Miller recruit some names. I'm
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: confused here because on his ESPN page, he's a... He
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: is listed as a senior, but I only see one
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: year at South Alabama, so I don't know where he was.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: I have to look up where he was prior. We
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: need to get an up dog. An update from the
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: fit dog.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: Up dog? An up dog from the fit date. Fitty,
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: what you got over there, baby? What's happening? Fitty.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Fitty.
• 32:43
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• 32:49
  Speaker 5: If something doesn't look right, Mac.
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  Speaker 4: With your roof or your gutters, do not wait for
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• 32:55
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• 32:58
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• 32:59
  Speaker 1: 704-334-9934.
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: One final time, 704-334-9934. We led the show talking about it,
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: figured we'd bring it back here in a little update.
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: The NBA yesterday was one of the harsher punishments ever
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: delivered to a franchise. As a result of the Kawhi investigation,
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: the Clippers docked five first-round.
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: Picks and fined $ 30 million.
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: Steve Ballmer is expected to fight those.
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: Suspensions, the draft picks, the fines.
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: But regardless, Adam Silver, for the first time in his life,
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: acted like an actual commissioner.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: Kawhi Leonard in total with the move to get him
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: and then the aftermath of what occurred there cost Clippers
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: 12 first-round draft choices, SGA, Steve Ballmer for a year,
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: the GM for a year, the president for– or Lawrence Frank,
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: I think, is six months, the president for a year.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: and $ 30 million in fines. He played 47 games a
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: season for the eight years. I was going to say,
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: it's worth it, though, Bone, because of the multiple championships. Oh,
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: that's right. That's right. They don't really have anything to
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: show for it. By the way, Mac, I did some
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: research here. Chase Harris started out at Life University. Then
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: he went to Shawnee State. And that's why there's only
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: one year of stats at South Alabama. He was doing
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: the journey to get to that point. So I think
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: some Juco schools along the way. So that's why. That's
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: a cool get for the Niners, though.
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: When we come back, it's the Mac and Bone Show.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: College football. It's back, baby. It's a party. We preview
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: that tonight. Sports Radio. Hurt my hand.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: 92.7 WFNZ.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: Girl, I've been shaking, sticking.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: And moving.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: Trying to get to you and that booty. Trying to
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: get to you and that booty. Trying to get to
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: you and that booty.
• 35:14
  Speaker 6: Girl, I've been shaking. He just took this beyond DEFCON 1.
• 35:18
  Speaker 6: I realize that's not possible, but I'm going to make
• 35:20
  Speaker 6: it possible for this conversation, Greeney. You just don't understand
• 35:24
  Speaker 6: the history between these two men, and I think we'll
• 35:27
  Speaker 6: learn more about that in the coming days. But the
• 35:29
  Speaker 6: fact that Dabo Sweeney, who has not– I don't think
• 35:33
  Speaker 6: I've agreed with Dabo Sweeney in 10 years on anything.
• 35:35
  Speaker 6: He is 100% right, and almost everyone in college football
• 35:39
  Speaker 6: agrees with him that does not live in Baton Rouge, Louisiana.
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: There you go. Even Lane Kiffin's got superpowers. Five ball
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: and E40 together, finally. He can even bring... Paul Feinbaum
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: together with Dabo Sweeney. He can even align those two.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: That's the powers that Lane Kiffin has. And that's Paul
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: Feinbaum right there, admitting that he backs Lane Kiffin. Jordan Rodgers,
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: on the other hand, Bone, came out swinging.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: Oh, gracious.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: He must have drawn.
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: The short straw and had to be the one person
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: that thought Dabo had to act like Dabo said something
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: wrong when he went off on the NFL players coming
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: back to the NFL. He said, what has Dabo done
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: to talk like this? I'm not sure he has to
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: do anything to talk like that. He's making an observation
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: that most of us that care about college sports have made,
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: that it's ridiculous.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: Guys are coming back for the NFL to play. Yeah,
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: they called Jordan Rodgers in and said, we have bad news.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: Paul's supporting Dabo today, so you're going to have to.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: He's like, what?
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Paul's liking Dabo today.
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: You're driving the lane train. So that rap song there,
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: that was the infamous E-40, right, Bone?
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: Although you can obviously tell that he sounded like me.
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: Although it turns out the guy said it's not E-40 specifically.
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: It's an E-40 impersonator that Bone sounds like.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: You heard the impersonator. So that was earlier in the show.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: A texter said I sounded like a rap legend E-40.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: We played what we thought was E-40. Turns out it
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: was someone that was singing on a song prior to E-40.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: Who was it? Kadiq Da Freak? What was that rapper's name?
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: Freaky Kadeeky? Siddiqui? I don't know what was it. I'm
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: not sure.
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: It was Kadik the Sneak.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: Kadik the Sneak. There you go. But then the guy
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: texted back in and said, no, I sound like a
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: guy that does an impression of E-40. You heard the impression, Matt.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: Did you hear anything there that makes me sound like
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: the fake E-40? He does take his voice up high
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: like you do sometimes.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: What?
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: He does do that like right there. He does do
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: that a little bit. That's intentional, but yes. By the way,
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: we messed it up again.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: Is that not him?
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: I looked up E-40 songs. The dude singing, according to
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: multiple texters.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: That's on Fitty on that one.
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: The dude singing, according to multiple texters, was T-Pain. You
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: would have had to play the verse of that song
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: to hear from E-40.
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: You see, I listened to it before I played it.
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: There's a part where there's a voiceover guy that.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: Goes, T-Pain.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: That's what I thought T-Pain came.
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: Into the fold.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: Is there not a guy that sounds like me in
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: these songs? Oh, my God. I'm done. We give up.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: I'm waving the white flag.
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: We are not capable of finding rapper E-40 and playing
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: his parts of his songs on the radio.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: It was a lot easier when I sounded like Gilbert Gottfried.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: You know what he sounds like. Oh, my God. I
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: thought I was the one that sounded like Gilbert Gottfried.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: I'm Fozzie Bear, usually. I thought that was me. By
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: the way.
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: Wes and Walker can handle the E40 situation, but we
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: have absolutely fumbled the ball multiple times. We're like TCU
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: and Dublin. So many turnovers. This is on Fitty on
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: this one, though. We got it back on track here.
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: We got cultured last hour.
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: Well, because I texted our good buddy Nada, and Nada
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: sent me the song that we played the first time
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: and got it wrong.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: So I was like, well, let me go find a
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: different song. He's in these songs. You would think he
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: would be the lead singer.
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: I'm looking up E-40 songs, not songs that are featuring E-40.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: It's E-40 featuring Kadiq the Sneak or T-Pain, and somehow
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: this guy sings second.
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: Can this man not do the stuff on his own?
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: He needs to keep leaning on the Fredique. Maybe that's
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: why he's being tried in coattails. What's he doing there, man? Anyway,
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: all right.
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: By the way, we have our first— uh winner of
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: the hornets giveaway today.
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: Let's do it baby oh it's not kadeek to sneak
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: it's keek keek to sneak okay k-e-a-k all right there
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: you have it what do you got fitty who's the winner.
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: Confident OL is the first winner today.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: God, I wish we had one of those on the Panthers. Oh,
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Did I say that out loud? confident oh
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: well baby you're the winner um we're.
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: Going to be doing hornets giveaways all day to celebrate
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: the announcement that the hornets made with us at eight
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: o'clock today that they are back with us for the
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: 18th straight season uh we're partners you can hear them
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: on wfnz and we're celebrating it with giveaways all day
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: that giveaway there was four tickets to the opener a
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: signed brandon miller jersey and a hundred dollar gift card
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: to the hornet shop That's.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: A good one.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: Doggy.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: That's a good one.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: Let's read some of these texts here, Bone. Just don't
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: ask us any rap questions.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: Don't ask us to play an E-40 song. Someone said
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: Bone's poetry name is Edgar Allen Bone. So we've got
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: that going on. Panther T-Dog says roses are red, violets
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: are blue, Fitty is smitten, and Bone has no clue.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: Why is he coming after Bone? I don't think he
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: fully did a poem there. What was that? Smitten and
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: red don't rhyme. But he's rhyming the end of each line.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: That's not how we do it here. You are Edgar
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: Allan Bone. Yeah. So why am I trying to tell
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: you about poetry?
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: Do you know what famous piece of work Edgar Allan
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: Poe wrote?
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: The Raven.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: The Raven.
• 41:00
  Speaker 5: You actually do know something.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: I'm a Ravens fan. Oh, he was a Ravens fan.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: Or I was. I'm not anymore. But Ravens back. Not anymore.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: I don't mean I am.
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: I was when they got the franchise. You just said
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: that I'm a Ravens fan. Oh, let me guess. You're
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: going to clip that one and play that on the
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: air to make me look bad. I don't give a
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: damn about the Panthers. Finney, can you name five famous poets, Finney?
• 41:22
  Speaker 5: Five famous poets? Well, Edgar Allan Poe.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: That's all I got. Billy Shakespeare.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: Keats.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: Longfellow. Dickinson. That's all I got. Somebody named Homer. Maya Angelou.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: Robert Frost. This is completely from memory for Bone, if
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: you can't tell. Completely. No computer involved at all. Langston Wurtz.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: Langston Wurtz. Langston Hughes.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: Sorry. Langston Hughes.
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: Some great— I would say some of his high school writing
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: is poetry.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: It's so good. Likes the words. Fitty couldn't get Shakespeare,
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: for crying out loud. Fitty, a lot of— He was
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: a playwright.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: More so than a poem.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: That's true. That is true. A lot of text coming in.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: He wrote 154 sonnets. A lot of Fitty coming in here.
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: A lot of talking about Fitty and his date, Day 3,
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: with a woman who he just claimed last— hour he
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: is smitten with. This texter says, Finney, why the heck
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: did you just admit you're smitten with a woman before
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: the third date on the air? You can't let a
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: lady know that early that you're that into her.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: And she listens.
• 42:24
  Speaker 5: She knows.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: And she listens. She knows.
• 42:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, she knows.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: Have you said I love you already?
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: No.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: Oh, no. Oh, my God. He's a god now.
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: It took me years to flounder I love him. You
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: think two dates, I'm telling.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: A girl I love her.
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: Does she know about flounder? She knows about when we
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: went to school together.
• 42:39
  Speaker 5: She knows about Flounder.
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: Hoosier Bobby says, it sounds like it's time to start
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: ring shopping, Fitty. Another texter says, Mac just cursed Fitty.
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: I am feeling very good about this relationship. A similar
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: feeling that I had about NC State and CJ Bailey
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: this season.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: She went to school with Flounder. What if this is
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: just her way to get closer to Flounder again?
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: Okay. Okay.
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: This texter says, Fitty, once this woman sees your dance
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: moves on Saturday, your little fling is over.
• 43:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, probably.
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: But if I break out the dance moves early enough,
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: I could be home before LSU-Clemson kickoff.
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: No, what just happened here? That's a way to plan
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: a date. You hope you're home on time for the football.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: He's trying to sabotage his date.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: No, I'm not.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: After he just said he was smitten. You know, the
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: goal is to continue the date as long as possible, right?
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: I know what the goal is. So your 9,000-day streak
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: here could end eventually.
• 43:30
  Speaker 5: It's not 9,000 days.
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: If you keep doing this it will be oh my
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: goodness um i'm gonna move along here um oh willie
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: p what was the thing about willie p someone said
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: willie p is cooler than us because we couldn't figure
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: out the e40 thing um uh myron says willie p
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: is not even cooler than nascar george.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: Oh nascar george pretty damn cool though isn't he One
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: of the coolest ever. That's a cool old man.
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: Kyle from Maine says, is it just me, or does
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: Aer Lingus sound like something else?
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: Kyle?
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you might want to air out yourself. You got
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: to air out your Wingus once in a while.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: Behavior. Behavior.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: Behave yourself. You too. You and Kyle both behave yourself.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: All right. We're out of here. She's going to do
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: the cabbage patch at a party and she's going to
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: leave them.
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: Hey, that's one of the dances I was going to
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: show you during your lesson. This dude says, having Mac
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: teach you how to dance is like having Bryce Young
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: teach you how to play quarterback.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: Why, thank you. I take that as a compliment for
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: me and Bryce, sir.
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: Not sure that's how you meant it. But that's how
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: I'm taking it. A note to a listener, Mac, on
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: a personal level here. Hey, B-Bob, let's try to do
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: some work tomorrow, all right? B-Bob, today you had quite
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: a day. B-Bob, I'm not sure the last time you
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: had a full day of work. We need you out
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: there doing some work, B-Bob, to get off the text
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: line and stop talking bright. B-Bob told us he's closing
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: in on retirement, and he's about to have even more
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: free time to text us.
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: He's like 47.
• 45:02
  Speaker 6: Oh!
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: Retirement or job loss?
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: All right, we're out of here. Good work out of
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: the bone man, the fit dog. We've got a football
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: Friday tomorrow. Preview in week one, talking about all the games.
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: Recapping what Wake and Akron did tonight. Georgia Tech, tell
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: me Deion is not beating an ACC team tonight. That
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: sorry Colorado outfit. Tell me Georgia Tech is going to
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: take care of this one tonight. We'll talk about it
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: all tomorrow on the Mac and Bone Show. Colin Ogert,
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: Charlotte Sports Today, coming up next. Keep it here all
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: day for awesome Hornets giveaways as well.