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Bernie Moreno - Saving Social Security · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: Hey' bye the fifty five Carrisee detalk station. I'm very
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  Speaker 1: happy Friday Eve to you. I hope everyone has something
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  Speaker 1: really important and fun and celebratory to do on Independence
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  Speaker 1: date coming up this weekend. Without further ado, I am
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  Speaker 1: pleased as I can be to welcome to the fifty
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  Speaker 1: five Cascy Morning to Morning show. Have Senator Bernie Moreno,
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  Speaker 1: and it's good to have you back on. So it's
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  Speaker 1: been a while, and appreciate your willingess to come on
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  Speaker 1: the show and talk today.
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  Speaker 2: Good to have you.
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  Speaker 3: Go ahead, good to be on your show, and thank
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  Speaker 3: you for having me. It's been a while, and look
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  Speaker 3: forward to the conversation.
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  Speaker 2: I do too. Can we start?
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  Speaker 1: I had Congressman Warren Davidson on earlier to break them
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  Speaker 1: down where we are and try to get the Save
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  Speaker 1: Act passed, something wildly popular. If you look at the polls,
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  Speaker 1: everyone feels no, there is no issue getting a photo ID,
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  Speaker 1: and sure we should try to maintain the integrity of
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  Speaker 1: the elections and ensure it's accurate and keep people who
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  Speaker 1: are not lawfully eligible to vote from voting in a
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  Speaker 1: federal election that requires citizenship. Now, one of the mechanisms
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  Speaker 1: to try to get this through, and I scratched my
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  Speaker 1: head over what's going on in the Senate. That's why
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad you're here to explain it. Merging the Save
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  Speaker 1: Act into the National Defense Authorization Act. I know they're
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  Speaker 1: incompatible from a subject matter, but I mean, isn't this
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  Speaker 1: what Congress does all the time? But would it pass
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  Speaker 1: if that was done? In other words, is the National
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  Speaker 1: Defense Authorization Act important to enough Democrats that they'd ignore
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  Speaker 1: the Save Act component and go ahead and vote for it,
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  Speaker 1: or would they not vote for the NDAA simply because
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  Speaker 1: it has something that everyone once built into it, i e.
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  Speaker 1: The Save Act Center Marino.
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  Speaker 3: Well sadly no that Democrats would not vote for the
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  Speaker 3: NDAA of the Save America actors in there, because they've
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  Speaker 3: actually absolutely hunkered down in this idea that.
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  Speaker 2: You shouldn't have to prove who you are, and you shouldn't.
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  Speaker 3: Have to prove your citizen to vote things that are,
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  Speaker 3: by the way, popular with seventy percent of Democrats, ninety
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  Speaker 3: percent of Republicans, of course, eighty percent of Independence. So
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  Speaker 3: they would just trip it from the bill or not
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  Speaker 3: pass it at all. They've consistently forty seven out of
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  Speaker 3: forty seven Democrats. We've put this thing to a vote
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  Speaker 3: five or six times. Every single time we get fifty votes,
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  Speaker 3: they get zero votes from Democrats.
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  Speaker 2: We need six, I think.
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  Speaker 3: Bryan, the answer is what we really need to do
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  Speaker 3: is build up public pressure. I was down in Columbia,
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  Speaker 3: South America. I was asked to be an election observer.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to have a hearing when we get back
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  Speaker 3: where we're going to bring in the people from Colombia
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  Speaker 3: and also bringing Gavin Newsom. In Colombia's single day elections,
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  Speaker 3: all paper ballots, proof of citizenship is required. You actually
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  Speaker 3: have to be fingerprinted to get the ballot.
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  Speaker 2: The ballots are.
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  Speaker 3: Counted by hand, and by the way, they delivered the
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  Speaker 3: election results within an hour and have a higher.
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  Speaker 2: Participation rate than we do in the US.
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  Speaker 3: So evidently Hispanics that Colombia can find their voter ID,
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  Speaker 3: but when they get to the United States they forget
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  Speaker 3: how to find their driver's license.
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  Speaker 2: So it's we got to build up the public pressure.
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  Speaker 3: We're also going to introduce a bill to that is
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  Speaker 3: actually a built Harry Reid introduced that talks about the
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  Speaker 3: Immigration Normalization Act that does a lot of things, one
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  Speaker 3: of which is clarifies that birthright citizenship is not intended
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  Speaker 3: for illegals or people who come here just to have
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  Speaker 3: a baby.
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  Speaker 2: It's a bill that Harry Reid proposed.
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  Speaker 3: And I think what the end goal of all this
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  Speaker 3: is to show that the Democrats of today do not
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  Speaker 3: resemble the Democrats.
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  Speaker 2: Of the nineties. And the only choice we really have.
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  Speaker 3: As a Republican conference to actually save this country is
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  Speaker 3: to get.
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  Speaker 2: Rid of the filibuster.
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  Speaker 3: And I think that's the only way, and then we
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  Speaker 3: just get legislation done with fifty votes, fair.
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  Speaker 1: Enough, and can we not go with the regular for
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  Speaker 1: the talking filibuster. You don't have to go nuclear and
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  Speaker 1: get rid of the sixty vote requirement. You can just
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  Speaker 1: start talking and hold out until the Democrats finally have
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  Speaker 1: to capitulate because you only get two speeches on the floor. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: it could go over a number of days, but yeah,
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  Speaker 1: let's go through the pain of that for a while
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  Speaker 1: and hit the ground running with a fifty one vote
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  Speaker 1: on the Save Act.
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  Speaker 3: I just remember about that to Rex Scott as a
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  Speaker 3: chairman of the Steering Committee, which is a group of
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  Speaker 3: Conservatives and the Senate, we would have to tweak two rules.
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  Speaker 3: Number one an amendment would have to count as a speech,
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  Speaker 3: because otherwise, every time they offered an amendment, even if
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  Speaker 3: the amendment failed.
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  Speaker 2: Clocks the shot clock starts over again.
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  Speaker 3: So there are a lot of two speeches in the
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  Speaker 3: same legislative day, and we can keep a legislative day
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  Speaker 3: going on forever, but every time they submit an amendment,
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  Speaker 3: it would start over. So this would be an infinite love.
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  Speaker 3: So we have to make it so an amendment counts
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  Speaker 3: as a speech and restrict speeches to one hour before cloture,
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  Speaker 3: just like we have now after culture. If we can
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  Speaker 3: do those tweaks, those two tweaks, you're exactly right, we can.
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  Speaker 3: Instead of voting to end debate, debate would end automatically
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  Speaker 3: once every senator has spoken twice for no more than
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  Speaker 3: one hour, and then we can call.
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  Speaker 2: The question and we can pass it with fifty votes.
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  Speaker 3: So that is the path that I'm going to suggest
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  Speaker 3: to my colleagues is really the only viable path.
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  Speaker 2: If we don't do that, Brian, then the only.
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  Speaker 3: Choice we have is just to capitulate and say the
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  Speaker 3: Democrats will just hold the country hostage. And these are
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  Speaker 3: very popular things that we want to get done. These
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  Speaker 3: these are not coin cost things. These are very popular things.
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  Speaker 1: We want to get done bill of the people, as
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  Speaker 1: demonstrated by every single poll has been taken on this.
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  Speaker 1: No one believes this is somehow Jim Crow two point
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  Speaker 1: zero or somehow disenfranchis everybody, and you mentioned the South
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  Speaker 1: American countries do it everybody. I think every other country
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  Speaker 1: in the world except for two requires a photo ID
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  Speaker 1: to vote. This is not some crazy uh phenomenon that
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  Speaker 1: we're working on trying to get here.
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  Speaker 3: No, this is not a right wing priority that you
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  Speaker 3: know five percent of country wants. This is common sense
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  Speaker 3: and they give you ask most people. Now, people in
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  Speaker 3: Ohio get confused. I get this from constituents all the time.
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  Speaker 2: They're like, why are you pushing a bill that has
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  Speaker 2: a voter ID. We already have that in Ohio, Yes
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  Speaker 2: we do. But in eighteen states they do not have any.
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  Speaker 3: Form of voter ID, and they have universal mail and
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  Speaker 3: mail out ballots. So you could be living in a
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  Speaker 3: place in California that maybe two or three people lived
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  Speaker 3: in the past five or six years, and they.
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  Speaker 2: Mail you just ballots unsolicited.
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  Speaker 3: So one apartment where one person lives will get six, seven,
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  Speaker 3: eight nine ballots. They can fill them out and return.
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  Speaker 3: Nobody knows who whether it is real, really the voter
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  Speaker 3: or by the way, Bran, can you imagine you just
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  Speaker 3: walk up to a polling place and say, hey, I'm
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  Speaker 3: here to vote.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, here's your ballot. You don't have to show who
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  Speaker 2: you are. It's insane.
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  Speaker 1: It is, without question, all right, pivoting over talk with
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  Speaker 1: Americans for Prosperities Donovan and Neil the other day, based
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  Speaker 1: upon your springing from your essay Bernie Morina and Elizabeth
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  Speaker 1: Warren our plan to save Social Security. Odd that you
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  Speaker 1: teamed up with Elizabeth Warren from the Democrats, not real
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  Speaker 1: popular figure in the fifty five Carecy Morning Show audience.
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  Speaker 1: But I understand I think your motive. If you present
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  Speaker 1: a bipartisan potential solution to save Social Security which needs
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  Speaker 1: to be saved, you're at least willing to step up
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  Speaker 1: and grab a hold of the third whale and propose something.
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  Speaker 1: Now AFP rejects it as a proposition, which is get
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  Speaker 1: rid of the payroll tax cap so you continue to
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  Speaker 1: pay into soci Security be one hundred and eighty four
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  Speaker 1: to five. But they mentioned the ripple effects small businesses,
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  Speaker 1: for example, quite often an operate has passed through entities
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  Speaker 1: and the number crunching that they ran suggest that this
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  Speaker 1: is going to result in too high taxation and will
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  Speaker 1: cost a lot of jobs and shrink the economy. You react,
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  Speaker 1: Bernie Marino, well, first.
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  Speaker 2: And foremost, you're exactly right.
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  Speaker 3: This is an op ed, not a bill. For one
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  Speaker 3: simple reason. We have to start the conversation. We have
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  Speaker 3: to be responsible and say, hey, social Security is going
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  Speaker 3: to be in deep trouble in five years, five years
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  Speaker 3: of a blink of an eye at our age, unfortunately,
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  Speaker 3: and if we don't do something now, we're going to
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  Speaker 3: have seniors that are going to be in real trouble.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not going to allow that to happen. So from
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  Speaker 3: my perspective, I'm willing to take on the tough issues.
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  Speaker 3: So this is about starting a conversation and instead and
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  Speaker 3: respect to small businesses. Most small business owners who actually
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  Speaker 3: employ people. As you know, there's a lot of what's
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  Speaker 3: considered a small business that.
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  Speaker 2: Are self proprietors.
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  Speaker 3: That's a totally different category that people actually employ people.
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  Speaker 2: Most small business owners.
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  Speaker 3: Like myself do not take very high wages, so this
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  Speaker 3: really doesn't affect them because the distributions of profit are
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  Speaker 3: not taxed for the purposes of socialcurity.
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  Speaker 2: That's just a false flag.
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  Speaker 3: Look at the end of the day, I think what
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  Speaker 3: we should do is take a look at how we
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  Speaker 3: can make certain that.
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  Speaker 2: Social Security is there for the people who need it
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  Speaker 2: and count on it. It is a program that's been
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  Speaker 2: very effective. If there's people out.
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  Speaker 3: There who want to say that Social Security should be
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  Speaker 3: eliminated or gone, let them campaign on that. That's going
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  Speaker 3: to be me So we figure out processes to fix it.
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  Speaker 2: We can also look at.
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  Speaker 3: Lowering rates overall and combating waste fraud abuses are Vice
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  Speaker 3: President is doing. There's trillions of dollars in savings that
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  Speaker 3: can come from that.
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  Speaker 2: So lower the overall rate of taxation and at.
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  Speaker 3: The same time do something to save social Security for
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  Speaker 3: the long run. And there's lots of other ideas, but
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  Speaker 3: I'm not willing to disengage from a conversation.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's important.
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  Speaker 1: It is an important conversation. The numbers do not lie
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  Speaker 1: in this particular case. They have been consistent. They kept
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  Speaker 1: telling us when this thing was going to tap out,
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  Speaker 1: when we're going to start dipping into principle. It's been
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  Speaker 1: going on forever. It needs to be addressed. So how about,
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  Speaker 1: and here's a fun idea. We have massive fraud, waste
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  Speaker 1: and abuses being revealed more and more every day. Go
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  Speaker 1: directly after that, so the outlays are smaller, leaving you
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  Speaker 1: with more money. Maybe reducing the deficit spending, but also
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  Speaker 1: how about cutting spending from government generally speaking, it's gotten
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  Speaker 1: too big, it's unsustainable. Look at our national debt. We
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  Speaker 1: spend too much.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely, if we just went back to twenty nineteen spending.
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  Speaker 2: Levels, we'd be in great shape. I totally agree with you.
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  Speaker 3: Again, the challenges goes back to the original conversation. We
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  Speaker 3: can't do that and get Democrat support. They just won't
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  Speaker 3: do it.
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  Speaker 2: So we have to look at it and say, what
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  Speaker 2: is it that we really want to do. Let's get
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  Speaker 2: these things done now. By the way, the President has
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  Speaker 2: done a lot of this already.
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  Speaker 3: We've reduced the federal workforce headcount by three hundred and
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  Speaker 3: fifty thousand people. Right, that's an incredible accomplishment. But we
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  Speaker 3: can do so much more legislatively. But we can't do
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  Speaker 3: it begging these lunatic Democrats that are being elected at Brian.
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  Speaker 3: These are not Harry Reid and Tip O'Neil and JFK.
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  Speaker 3: These are radical anti American anarchists, actually, people who want
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  Speaker 3: to destroy fundamentally entry. You can't have a process that says, well,
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  Speaker 3: you got to work with them and figure it out.
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  Speaker 3: It doesn't work. That's an antiquated concept. So if we
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  Speaker 3: can get rid of the philibuster, we can get a
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  Speaker 3: lot of these things done, safe social security, reduce spending
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  Speaker 3: past the save America at that, actually have a sovereign
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  Speaker 3: situation on our border where we decide who comes into
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  Speaker 3: what terms.
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  Speaker 2: Those are things we can do.
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  Speaker 1: Fair Enough, and I know you're out of time. You
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  Speaker 1: got to run for other events. But Bernie Marino, I
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  Speaker 1: heard you mentioned nuke getting rid of the filibuster. Would
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  Speaker 1: you vote to nuke the filibuster that nuclear option or
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  Speaker 1: get rid of the filibuster?
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  Speaker 3: I talked about this a year ago. I was there first.
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  Speaker 3: I'd say either my idea, which is tweaked these two
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  Speaker 3: these two rules, or just get rid of it overall.
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  Speaker 3: But we got to get things.
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  Speaker 1: Done, Brian, fair enough. I like the tweaking part. That
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  Speaker 1: sounds good and unobjectable because most people won't even notice it.
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  Speaker 1: Congressman are sorry. Senator Bernie Marina, thank you so much
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  Speaker 1: for spending time by listeners.