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College Ball Show: Week 11 Betting Lines & Picks! Playoff Rankings Debate! Week 10 Recap! · The Rope A Dope Radio Podcast

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  Speaker 1: College football fans, Welcome back to the College Ball Show.
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  Speaker 1: He's Marshall, I'm Chris, and we're here to talk some
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  Speaker 1: good old fashion college football. Now, we just got the
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  Speaker 1: first rankings from the Committee. We'll talk it through a
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  Speaker 1: little bit. We're also going to of course recap what
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  Speaker 1: just happened. There's five Saturdays in November. Usually November's are
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  Speaker 1: there to remember or people forget. They have a lot
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  Speaker 1: of things in their head what they believe is gonna happen,
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  Speaker 1: and then November hits and you're like, oh shit, that's right.
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  Speaker 1: You know, like the season can be a marathon, but
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  Speaker 1: really it's a sprint. November can be a sprint, even
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  Speaker 1: with five saturdays. So Miami goes down Georgia Tech from Vandy.
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  Speaker 1: Georgia gets by Florida. I mean, Oklahoma got a nice
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  Speaker 1: road win over Tennessee. Utah just spanks since you well,
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  Speaker 1: I could have plus that thing up to twenty something,
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  Speaker 1: it wouldn't have mattered. Virginia, you know, got the job
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  Speaker 1: done on the West coast. So we're gonna talk it
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  Speaker 1: all the way through, and then of course breakdown week eleven.
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  Speaker 1: We do have some big games. A and m who
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  Speaker 1: Joey Galloway thinks should be number one with a bullet.
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  Speaker 1: They gotta go on the road to Missoi BYU in
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  Speaker 1: Texas Tech. That'll if there's any kind of debate there,
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  Speaker 1: that'll get taken care of. Oregon at Iowa. In a
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  Speaker 1: variety of games that we'll talk about, we're gonna kind
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  Speaker 1: of start breaking down some of these conference races too.
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  Speaker 1: Funny enough, the Big twelve kind of feels like you're
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  Speaker 1: figuring it out. You're figuring it out and it's not
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  Speaker 1: as open as it was last year. Now you know,
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  Speaker 1: you still got four Saturday's left, so who knows. But
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  Speaker 1: when you look at the AAC, the ACC, the SEC,
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  Speaker 1: it's crazy that you could say the top two. You
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  Speaker 1: feel like you kind of know the conference final in
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  Speaker 1: the Big ten. But who's gonna get who's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: third and fourth place? Who you know at that point
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  Speaker 1: have a great shot at least the third place of getting,
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  Speaker 1: you know, in the playoffs. So we're gonna break it
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  Speaker 1: first month. Okay, we gon go ahead and bring in
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  Speaker 1: my co host Marshall. You know, we kind of think, oh,
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  Speaker 1: this is what's gonna happen, and oh, we're starting to
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  Speaker 1: starting to figure out who's gonna get there, and oh,
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  Speaker 1: it looks like this team. And then November hits, and
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  Speaker 1: November hit for a couple teams very hard. Now a
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  Speaker 1: couple of teams they got some big wins and it
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  Speaker 1: really helped them. Texas would be one of those We'll
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  Speaker 1: get to the ACC in Mike Canes in Georgia Tech.
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  Speaker 1: But let's start in the SEC Texas. I mean, remember
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  Speaker 1: I said I was gonna I'm going with Diego until
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  Speaker 1: the wheels fall off. For the first three quarters. The
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  Speaker 1: wheels fell off that wagon. But they did kind of
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  Speaker 1: put it together, put some duct tape on the wheels
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  Speaker 1: and tried to rally. Came up short. But Texas puts
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  Speaker 1: their best game together. If you look at what they
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  Speaker 1: did as far as stopping the run to a team
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  Speaker 1: that can run their ass off, and then you know,
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  Speaker 1: if we're gonna be you know, critical for obvious reasons
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  Speaker 1: of arch well, you started to put it together, and
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  Speaker 1: they had some broken plays. You could say this, that
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  Speaker 1: and the other. They didn't finish strong, sure, but they
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  Speaker 1: did earn a big win. The Longhords did. Let's start
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  Speaker 1: right there, sir, first and foremost, how you doing? My friend?
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  Speaker 2: Not too bad man, a little bit tired, but life
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  Speaker 2: is okay. And yeah, hey they well they didn't.
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  Speaker 1: Cover for me.
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  Speaker 2: I live at them. And then they decided not to
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  Speaker 2: play defense in the fourth quarter. But I'd digress. Hey,
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  Speaker 2: we discussed from the start this was a really hard
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  Speaker 2: spot for Vanderbilt. The fact they loss doesn't surprise me.
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  Speaker 2: It's one of those things where like, yeah, you lost,
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  Speaker 2: but is it really a slap in the face now,
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  Speaker 2: because we didn't think they would win And if you
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  Speaker 2: if you turn the game off after the third quarter, Chris,
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  Speaker 2: that's kind of what we expected.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously, I didn't expect that the win.
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  Speaker 2: Loss record does matter. But sometimes you take a loss,
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  Speaker 2: it's just the scheduling gods kind of did it to you.
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  Speaker 2: And if you watch the first three quarters, that's what
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  Speaker 2: it was. Now. I do think Texas's defense kind of
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  Speaker 2: got a little lackadaisical there, but again, Vandy had been
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  Speaker 2: on a run of tough game, tough game, tough game,
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  Speaker 2: tough game, and you have your coach on game day
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  Speaker 2: talking about how I'm trying to build confidence in my
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  Speaker 2: program to win games. So the fact they lost, I
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  Speaker 2: think Bandy has a legit chance making the playoffs. Like
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  Speaker 2: they're still hanging in there. But hey, if you're Texas,
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  Speaker 2: you needed that win. You your offense is getting better.
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  Speaker 2: I think that was just kind of a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of a morale boost. Obviously, their their name and reputation
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  Speaker 2: and preseason expectations was super high, and I think they're
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  Speaker 2: saving a little bit of a hope. I think that
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  Speaker 2: the win against Ou is maybe a boost they needed.
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  Speaker 2: And then you had the the maybe lucky controversial overtime
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  Speaker 2: catch Versussissippi State, which you were down seventeen late and
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  Speaker 2: that game won that one, and then he now won again.
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  Speaker 2: So it has been pretty but they have been kind
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  Speaker 2: of getting the back on the right track. I've not
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  Speaker 2: heard as many rumors of arch Man, you know, Grimsey
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  Speaker 2: and being made me hurt. So yeah, this was a
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  Speaker 2: win that Texas needed. Again, if you're Vandy, you can
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  Speaker 2: afford one loss, can't afford losses back to back. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that was just a good w It's sorry. It's hard
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  Speaker 2: for me to give Texas props. I don't think they're
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  Speaker 2: still a legit title contender, and they still got some
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  Speaker 2: hardass games left.
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  Speaker 1: But they had Georgia in A and M.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but if they are able to win those, I
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  Speaker 2: will retract these words because then they definitely deserve to
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  Speaker 2: being the playoff or be a very top tier contender,
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  Speaker 2: because Georgia in A and M are not gonna be sleepwalkstut.
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  Speaker 2: If Arch has a bad game versus one of those teams,
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  Speaker 2: good luck. So yeah, hey, hats off, I'll give them,
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  Speaker 2: I'll give them credit. They gotta win again. If D'revanda,
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  Speaker 2: you can't slip up and let that happen again because
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  Speaker 2: you're you're now kind of on that break. But I
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  Speaker 2: also feel like we just stepp before the show, Chris,
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  Speaker 2: I feel there's about twenty teams right now who are
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  Speaker 2: on the brink of Dude, we have a chance to
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  Speaker 2: make the playoffs, but if we lose one more game,
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  Speaker 2: we're kind of screwed. Like it's it's kind of a
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  Speaker 2: hodgepodge of teams who can all make the tournament, which
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  Speaker 2: makes shows like this very fun for the next month.
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  Speaker 2: My friend.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's what we saw last year, and when
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  Speaker 1: we get to the standings and all that start to
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  Speaker 1: look that next week and what's to come, it's it
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  Speaker 1: really adds to the intrigue. We just normally didn't have that.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Texas talking about Manning, he had his best game,
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  Speaker 1: very accurate, did his job. But also they got just
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  Speaker 1: enough rushing yards. That's been a big thing for them too.
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  Speaker 1: They haven't been able to run the ball and to
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  Speaker 1: contain that run game I thought was really really huge.
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  Speaker 1: Diego put up some number. Sure, you know, I do
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  Speaker 1: wish that I would have just taken the plus number now,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, it is what it is. Let's stay
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  Speaker 1: in the SEC. Oklahoma got a big win over what
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  Speaker 1: are the twenty fifth ranked three loss team Tennessee. You
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  Speaker 1: know they needed it, they needed it really badly. Speaking
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  Speaker 1: of run game, they ran for thirty five carries a
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  Speaker 1: buck ninety two. And it wasn't just Matteers. Avier Robinson
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  Speaker 1: had a great game. Buck fifteen on the ground had
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  Speaker 1: that long rue for forty three. I'll tell you what though,
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  Speaker 1: watching this game at the start, the way Tennessee was
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  Speaker 1: moving the ball and pushing that ball down the field,
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  Speaker 1: I was like, WHOA, Tennessee looks really good. But as
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  Speaker 1: the game went on and as Aguileras started putting that
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  Speaker 1: ball in the air, you know, Oklahoma just outlasted them
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  Speaker 1: and got a big win. Man, because they they had
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  Speaker 1: started to take some some water on the boat, let's say,
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  Speaker 1: and they they got to port and they drained some
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  Speaker 1: of that water and now they're back at sea. It
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  Speaker 1: was a great win.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, as we said this really was kind of if
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  Speaker 2: you lose, you're out of playoffs. I wouldn't say it's
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  Speaker 2: one hundred true, but it definitely makes Tennessee's life a
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  Speaker 2: lot more difficulty. Tennessee has had a very hard schedule,
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  Speaker 2: but the fact you now have three losses and odds
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  Speaker 2: you run the table are probably prey slim. It's gotta
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  Speaker 2: be frustrating. I do think the Tennessee fan base probably
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  Speaker 2: expected to make the playoffs at least have a pretty
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  Speaker 2: good chance this year, but you've had some very heartbreaking losses.
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  Speaker 2: That's tough for Tennessee. On the other end, if you're Oklahoma,
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  Speaker 2: you definitely can't liize on turnovers. Chris Tennessee when the
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  Speaker 2: first half specially was the better team, but when you're
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  Speaker 2: driving up down the field and you can't cash in,
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  Speaker 2: those last ones were just you kind of kick yourself
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  Speaker 2: after it, like you just had too many slip ups
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  Speaker 2: to where like, damn, you know what could have we
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  Speaker 2: This game could have been won, but our quarterback had
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  Speaker 2: two picks, you know, and we lost the fumble. So
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  Speaker 2: you know, three turnovers is huge when you're playing a
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  Speaker 2: game first team that's pretty evenly matched with you. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: to have what this loss with the Georgia loss. Like, man,
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  Speaker 2: it's if you're if you're a Tennessee fan, you're you're
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  Speaker 2: twisting around five or six plays and you could be
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  Speaker 2: a top ten team in the country right now. But
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  Speaker 2: that's not the case. And of course with the culture
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  Speaker 2: in now and everyone wants Josh Heppel get a new
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  Speaker 2: job and it shit, it wouldn't surprise me if they
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  Speaker 2: fired him then of the year anyways, because I don't
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  Speaker 2: think he deserves it. I think he's done a pretty
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  Speaker 2: good job there. I think the Tennessee fans need to
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  Speaker 2: be a really little realistic with himself. But there's the
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  Speaker 2: rumors that they want to hype out, which again what
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  Speaker 2: we've seen lately, that could happen. But if you're on you, Chris,
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  Speaker 2: they needed this one one hundred percent because you I'll
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  Speaker 2: be there. You still got to go tusc Loosen in
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  Speaker 2: two weeks and you still got Missouri coming to your
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  Speaker 2: town their schedule again right now. Oh he's got a
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  Speaker 2: chance in the playoffs, but dude, you you got to
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  Speaker 2: you gotta gauntlet left in front of you. So this
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  Speaker 2: was a must needed one for oh you, and hats
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  Speaker 2: off to them for a good victory.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I agree, I think it'd be ridiculous, Uh,
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  Speaker 1: to fire him. If you look at the last chunk
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  Speaker 1: of years with a variety of quarterbacks, should you'd be bad.
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  Speaker 2: I have a two out of three you be bamming
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  Speaker 2: the last few times in Tennessee that that's pretty fucking good.
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  Speaker 1: You just gotta know where you're at, you know. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight championship which let was led up to
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  Speaker 1: Peyton Manning, you know, the few years he was there
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  Speaker 1: and then they went a chip the year after. They
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  Speaker 1: got a lot of recruiting out of having Manning there.
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  Speaker 1: But those days are long gone. So it's like, you
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  Speaker 1: just it's silly. It's completely silly, and I just don't
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, man. It gives me Nebraska vibes. It
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  Speaker 1: gives me some vibes that you're just like, dude, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, man, I think it'd be ridiculous to to
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  Speaker 1: fire him, And I think he's done a lot of
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  Speaker 1: good for that that program. Georgia Tech speaking, a coach
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  Speaker 1: that could be on the move. Supposedly there's a rumor
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  Speaker 1: out there that he's going to take an interview in
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  Speaker 1: the bye week I don't know if that's true, though.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Haines King did what he could do, put
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  Speaker 1: up four to a weight, twenty five or thirty five
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  Speaker 1: through a pick, but had two touchdowns through the air,
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  Speaker 1: two touchdowns on the ground, had over five hundred toll yards.
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  Speaker 1: But the defense just gave up CJ. Bailey, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: no offense NC State fans, but he's going to be
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  Speaker 1: heavy in the portal. This kid can play. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: NC State's a pretty solid club. They obviously have a
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  Speaker 1: win over Virginia that doesn't count in the ACC. But
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  Speaker 1: you know, they've been kind of all over the place,
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  Speaker 1: you know, but Georgia Tech earlier in the year, actually
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  Speaker 1: just a few games ago, had been playing with fire.
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  Speaker 1: It did seem like they got over the hump. But
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  Speaker 1: NC State beat him, and I mean forty eight points.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's the first time in school history or
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  Speaker 1: in a long time that they the Wolfpack put up
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  Speaker 1: forty eight points against the top ten opponent. You kind
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  Speaker 1: of knew this stuff was gonna come in the ACC,
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  Speaker 1: but in Virginia could be next. You know, It's not
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  Speaker 1: like they're just gonna go undefeated easily, but this one
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  Speaker 1: is tough, you know, because the defense just fell apart
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  Speaker 1: forty eight points. Man.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I just think that, like I've been talking
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  Speaker 2: a lot about how programs have built themselves up for
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  Speaker 2: the last handful of years on the show. The fact
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  Speaker 2: that Georgia Tech was fucking ranked eighth in the country,
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  Speaker 2: like that that Brent Brent Key has done like a
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  Speaker 2: tremendous job. So is this a bad loss for them?
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  Speaker 1: Yes?
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  Speaker 2: But realistically, is Georgia Tech supposed to go undefeed? It No? Like,
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  Speaker 2: holy shit, Chris, Like, when's.
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  Speaker 1: The last I've already lost? You know, yeah, at least
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  Speaker 1: one game.
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  Speaker 2: So it's a frustrating loss. Yes, does it? Does it
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  Speaker 2: cripple your playoff chances? Yes? It does. It doesn't make
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  Speaker 2: it impossible, but it definitely hurts you. But like you
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  Speaker 2: have to again put some expectations. Again, if you're a
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  Speaker 2: Tennessee fan, you want to give it a hYP hypel
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  Speaker 2: took you to Ohio. Say, let's you're in the playoffs
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  Speaker 2: and you lost the team that won the Natty, Like
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  Speaker 2: you know, yeah, So like Haines King, dude a scrappy,
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  Speaker 2: lovable guy. It's fun to watch. So, you know, because
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  Speaker 2: I'm not a dire George Tech fan. So it's like, dude,
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  Speaker 2: you had a loss again, how do you bounce back?
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  Speaker 2: Just like Vandy Vandy lost Texas? How do you bounce back?
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  Speaker 2: Like I just like the fact that George Tech was
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  Speaker 2: eight to no. It's like, okay, like you lost one.
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  Speaker 2: The scoreboard may look ugly, but I think we also know,
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  Speaker 2: Chris that their defense is not elite right like you
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  Speaker 2: know you had if you if you not had a
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  Speaker 2: line judge fall asleep on off size for wake for us,
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  Speaker 2: you like legit lose that game. Now, I know that
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  Speaker 2: reffing calls happened, and you can go back and forth
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  Speaker 2: on that. To hell, Auburn might be top ten if
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  Speaker 2: the rests are better. But in general, like this is,
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  Speaker 2: Georgia Tech has an offense that could be a playoff
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  Speaker 2: worthy team for sure, and hays King is fun to watch,
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  Speaker 2: but is Georgia.
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  Speaker 1: Count him out? You can't count them out to win
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  Speaker 1: the ACC Championship.
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  Speaker 2: But is Georgia Tech's defense playoff worthy? Probably not. Now.
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  Speaker 2: I say that because if you go.
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  Speaker 1: Through any demos in the ACC are playoff worthy.
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  Speaker 2: But like you know, like for Obama, Texas Tech by
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  Speaker 2: you are other teams in the playoffs right now, they
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  Speaker 2: probably have an offense and defense is comparable for playoff worthy.
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  Speaker 2: Georgia Tech has an offensive playoff worthy team, defensively not
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  Speaker 2: so much. So again, they're still in the race. You
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  Speaker 2: had to slip up, you know, NC State. They're always pesty,
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  Speaker 2: they're kind of like they're they're kind of like pit
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  Speaker 2: like every year they're gonna win games and upset somebody.
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  Speaker 2: It seems that way in general. Uh So, Yeah, a
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  Speaker 2: nice win by the wolf Pack. And if you're Georgie Tech, hey,
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  Speaker 2: you're still You're still in the running. You're the AC
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  Speaker 2: is a five horse race, and everyone's neck and neck.
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  Speaker 2: We're going around the final corners. So they're still there.
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  Speaker 2: But but I and also dude, perhaps the hands king,
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  Speaker 2: because that dude seems to run the ball twenty five
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  Speaker 2: times a game. Uh So, the fact that he did throw.
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  Speaker 1: Christy had over five hund total.
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  Speaker 2: Dude, it tells me that that was no ship moment
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  Speaker 2: because he normally doesn't throw the ball that much. Sounds like, dude,
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  Speaker 2: because they love to run him and work the clock.
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  Speaker 2: The fact he made thirty five passes. If you didn't
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  Speaker 2: see the score, I probably guess dude, they probably lost
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  Speaker 2: because he only doesn't throw the ball that often. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and hats off ten C State.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, So SMU. Speaking of coming off a lost,
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  Speaker 1: turn right around and get a win. SMU gets an
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  Speaker 1: overtime win over my Hurricanes. Three out of the they
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  Speaker 1: still get. Remember last year they had like seventeen Miami
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  Speaker 1: former players because lastly, who by the way, there's been
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: some issue. Who's with some guys that like at Nebraska
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: who just extended their deal and then they turn around
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: to lose. Well lastly, just I think he's the tenth paid,
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: highest paid coach in the country now, SMU gave him
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: an extension well deserved. They have three just off their captains, Marshall.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: Three out of their four team captains were former Gains
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: because you know he was for a few years. He
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: was at Miami a lot. You know, he's a legit coach,
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: very legit coach. Yeah, and I saw it got down
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: to minus six and a half from twelve and a half.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: People were hitting hard down the stretch. So a big
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: win for SMU. You know, they would definitely have to
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: win the ACC obviously because they're six and three. They're
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: not going to get in there, you know that way.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: But they're four and one. They're right there that way
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: in the ACC, you know, the ACC Coastal. We used
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: to say this all the time because it was just
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: like you got to wait to the end. And this
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: is it's really building up to that, but a big,
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: big win. I'll talk a little bit more about Miami,
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: but I'll let you uh take over for a second year. Okay.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: So, and this is maybe just like the Patrick Mahomes
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: favoritism of refs. And I'm obviously I'm not a Hurricanes guy. Okay,
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: I never really give a shit about either, but I'm
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: just kind of neutral.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: I guess you don't give a shit about him. That's fucked.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: You didn't have to say.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: It like that, But I just I'm a neutral blooded
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: Miami fan, you know, because I respect the teams you're
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: fans for. But when I mentioned the Patrick Mahomes and
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: the ref favoritism, I do think that this sport, football
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: has become soft. And I say that because all they
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: made of Miami.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: And you're then right at nine, yeah, yeah, where the.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: Where the defensive end guy ran off the line of scrimmage,
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: And like I would say, Patty kicked the quarterback like and.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: She tried to hold them up too. Yeah, after he
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: found out to play was dead.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: You can't. That can't be fifteen now Kudesam used to
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: maybe kick, sure, but that is it's become so indicative
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: of like NFL college football's where oh you touch the court,
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: like that's a really really really bad call. And that's
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: not me send up for your boys, because I don't
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: really do that, but like if I was mind fan,
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: be pissed because that that call can't happen ou again,
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: do they win or lose? It definitely increases Miami Chanson
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: hold either because fifteen yards is big. That's just an
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: awful call that you can't make in football. The guys
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: showed no intense to hurt in the quarterback. He pulled up,
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: he slowed down. Yes, he made physical contact, but he
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: wasn't like trying to like elbow the guy in the ribs.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: It was just like an accidental bump. Like I feel
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: in other sports like that shit doesn't get called, but
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: the NFL and college fotball has becomes so like, well, ah,
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: the by rule, he touched the guy, like like that's
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: that's one part of the sport. That is just frustrating
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: to see so because and I hate saying, because that
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: was a beautifully played game. It was fun. It was
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: a little scoring in his defensive battle, but anfinte fill
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: your boys got jobbed.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: There has and it was fourth and nine too.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, I didn't.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: I just fourth and nine at the at midfield, so
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: like that was on fourth down they were gonna kick
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: a field goal from there. Yeah, they would have had
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: to get the fourth down.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: You can't make that call, I mean on top. Yeah,
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: that's just that's that's unacceptable. That's unfortunately. I didn't I
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: missed it the sports down. I didn't see that part
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: of the.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Fourth and nine at midfield. Holy ship.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that that's embarrassing. Refs can't do that.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: But you know, Jennings has gotten healthier now. He played
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: a damn good game. I thought he did.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: And I think this is and you know you mentioned
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: the lasts of being paid s mus got more. They
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: got they got Vandy Muddy. Like the amount of money
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: they have in this for this team in this city
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: is just freaking insane. But hell, your kids are paying
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: sixty five thousand years to go there, so they should
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: have the money. Yeah, that was just they got a
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: lot of money.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: They got all sorts of money.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they got every they got everything SMU.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: And it's cool. It's cool to see.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is the program that was really good.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: And then they had their their their mix up and
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: now they're coming back again. So it's been about twenty
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: years so or twenty plus. Yeah, just a good competitive
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: matchup when I probably should have gone to I was
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: laying at the house watching it, but I could have
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: just got in my car and drove to it. But yeah,
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: hate good win for SMU. Tough one for Miami. Obviously
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: that picked that back through at the end. It was
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: a little bit rough. I still think the guy's a
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: good quarterback. Obviously, that Louisville game is a tough one,
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: and that that picked there at the end was tough.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: I mean it looked like the receivers open this, so
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: Carson Beck's maybe by Tod a little bit. But again
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: they used to see it's yeah, it gets long waist
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: to now Hurricane's probably got to run the table and
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: hopeful little bit of luck, but.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know they're not They're not gonna get in
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: the They gotta hope that that Notre Dame and their
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: quality opponent gets them in. But they need a lot
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: of stuff to happen within the top ten, not not
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: even acc related.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: That's fair.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Now the Carson Beck, the first pick he threw was
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: on the receiver because he dropped the ball and it
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: went I don't know if you saw that one, but
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: they threw it to him, dropped the butt, well, it
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: hit his hands and went right into the defender. Now
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: the second one, you could see that old boy was open,
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: but he thought he was running straight. I don't know
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: if you see the side angle, but he thought he
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: was running straight. So he threw it to him wide
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: open for a touchdown, but old boy kind of went inside.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: So there was a miscommunication, okay, and in that and
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: I bring that up not to cover for Beck, but
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: Beck didn't play in the spring, and so had they
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: have gotten more time together and sometimes the transfer stuff.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: This is kind of playing out on the field because
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: to your point, he was open running sideways, but if
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: you notice, he went into the end zone and so
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: there was a miscommunication and so he threw it right
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: to where he was gonna be and the defender just
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: stayed on that line. So yeah, it was just one
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: of those things. But you know, I usually don't blame
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: the refs because that you know, they still could have
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: scored a touchdown won the game there, but they didn't.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: So yeah, it's a tough one. But as far as
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: like because now I hear Crystal Ball fire him too,
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: it's like they've had two ten win seasons since two
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: thousand and three, so and and a lot of the
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: over under game or win total was eight and a half. No,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: I saw some nine and a half, but a lot
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: was eight and a half. So so this whole fire
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: if you're not gonna win the chip is just getting
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: old Marshall like, yeah, especially when we've had examples the
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: last two champions in Kirby Smart two. Yeah, you know,
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: And it's just like, do people realize now that Harbo's
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: moved on, Saban's out and then helped me out North
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: Carolina coach one at Texas, Why can't I think of
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: as Matt Brown Mac Brown's out. There's three coaches, there's
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: three active coaches that have won a championship in out
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: of one hundred and thirty six. So everybody just take
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: a deep breath, calmed down a little bit okay, and
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: you know shit, I mean Saban had some good years
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: at LSU. I think on the fourth or fifth year
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: they won the championship. But like you know, I just
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: I think that we're going a little over the top.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: Especially you how hard it's gonna be to win a
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: chip now, right, because not only do you have to
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: get the playoffs. It's easier to get the playoffs, sure
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: or less difficult, but now you got to go and
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: win at least three maybe four games. So I really
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: think that people are just freaking out in a and
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: I and just calmed down a little bit, and maybe
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: Crystal Ball will be like Mark Rick at Georgia where
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: he built up the team and then somebody else came
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: in and won the championship.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: I do think that Chris Ball has some flaws as
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: head coach. I wouldn't put him top tier, but also
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: almost every other coach in the country has flaws two.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: Right, But he also won a rose Ball, he won
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: a conference champion. He's not He's not this bum coach
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: that people act like it. And like I said, I
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: literally just said, he may not be the guy that wins, Yeah,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: but he may. That's why I use the Georgia, but
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: rip he came within. We were there at to like
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: the six yard line Georgia. Remember that play. And if
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: they just were thrown it out of bounce and kept
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: the play alive, they win the championship or they win
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: the SEC and then they probably win the chip. Like
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: maybe Crystal Ball is not the guy that win it all,
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: that's fine, and maybe the next guy will be. But
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: let's just let the ship play out for a little bit,
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: like it just I don't know, dude.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: But also if you do choose to fire him, now,
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: now you're there with like about twelve or thirty others
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: schools who are all in that same boat of we
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: got to find a coach.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: I think you'd be stupid to fire him this year.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: What in the world would you fire him for?
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: Well, and shit, I didn't even know. I know back
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: this year, I didn't even know they fired Hugh Freeze.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: Like it's hard, and we're we're two guys that like
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: fall sports. But like it's literally every week now on Sunday,
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: a Power for conference coach is being fired and it's
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: hard to keep up.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: Well, it's not just power for either.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: And all these all these programs you're gonna want to
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: have a coach that can, well, we need to go
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: to a higher level. Well where as like this, I
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: forget which person was on ESPN, but it's like there's
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: not a toys at RS coaching store. You can't just go, hey, mom,
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: I want this one off the shelf, like you're It
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: is becoming like hockey and soccer, where hey, you just
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: start retrading these coaches through and sometimes you might strike
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: gold and get lucky. But like you know, for hockey,
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: like the Oilers just they've been last couple of Stanley Cups.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: They brought a guy from their fire time, like younger
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: minor organization who's been good coach. So it doesn't aways
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: mean you need to find the top tier guy. That's
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: not always the case, but that's what these programs want
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: because and that's the issues. I think those schools like
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: LSU and Florida, they're going, well, we need a top
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: tier guy. It's like, well, those time two guys. It
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: does always have to be that way, but I do
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: think there's that pressure of you can't hire a guy
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: that was your defensive coordinator or a guy from Carludo
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: State or New Mexico because well he's not a big
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: enough guy. It becomes a never ending circle of like,
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: how do you keep your fan base happy and your
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: donors happy? But without hiring a big name guy that
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: I think some of those fan bases don't want to
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: bring a guy who's maybe not the top tier, which
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: creates a cluster and then three years ago, three years
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: later doing the same shit again.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: Well, especially Auburn, they fired a bunch of coaches the
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: last eight years. But yeah, but a lot of times
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: it can be your assistant that stays there for a
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: couple of years, and that's what got you over the hump.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: There's there's a few guys that are not masterminds on
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: offense or defense, but they won a championship when they
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: when Auburn won the championship with Camp, it was out
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: a couple of years later, you know, so Chiswick. So yeah,
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: And another thing, I was listening to college sports now
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: and they made a good point. You know, we keep
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: hearing about, well, they want to get to the front
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: of the line, that's why they could they're firing people early.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: But what happened at SMU and what happened at Nebraska
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: when you give them this much time. Guess what, those
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: schools that still have the coach, they get to negotiate
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: them with for two months then, so you're actually it's
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: not some kind of a week later. Now we got
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: to negotiate. Oh, I got to make a decision quick.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: You're allowing the coach you want for that program if
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: it's decent enough, which a lot of times it is,
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: to negotiate and get a deal done. You know, look
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: at Indiana they did the same thing. They're like, all right, dude,
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: if you want to get ahead, start cool. But that
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: gives us a head start. And I didn't really think
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: about it like that until I heard it today. I'm
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: college sports now, It's like, that's a great point, and
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: that's what's happening. Anyway, let's let's let's stop. Uh, let's
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: let's keep it going here. Utah I could have plus
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: twenty eight that thing, and it wouldn't have mattered. Utah
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: completely spank Cincinnati, great, great win. Cal went to the
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: West Coast, got it done. It was competitive, but they
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: got it done. Morris had a good game. Taylor, they're
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: running back, had a good game thirty one to twenty one.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: That was nice. Texas Tech Kansas State had been getting
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: going a little bit. Texas Tech smacked them around, especially
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: in the second half. Forty three to twenty. Notre Dame
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: probably their mediocre performance in a long time because Boston
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: College is really bad, but they still got the job done. Ultimately,
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: that's what counts Old Miss goot by South Carolina, so
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: there's no slip up there. Georgia was in a dog
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: fight at Florida, but we know Florida is a legit defense.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: They have talent, and Georgia does what Georgia does. They
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: you know, they got the job done with a late
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: run in some defensive plays. It seems like they're just
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: on script Marshall with that, like we know they're not
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: the order from a few years ago, but you can't
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: deny you know that they could win the championship. Funny
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: thing is in today's ranking, if they won the first round,
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: with you to assume they would, they'd face Bama right away,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: which obviously would be a ratings bonanza. But what do
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: you think of those some of those games? And we'll
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: also talk to USC Nebraska who USC is that all
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: sorts of problems on the road got got the job
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: done against US or Nebraska.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: You know how good is Virginia? Like you beat you
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: beat Florida State on a kind of a fluky overtime call. Possibly,
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: you beat Louisville and ot. You beat Washington State by two,
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: you beat Carolina by one, you beat cal on a
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: pick six with twenty seconds to go to make it ten.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying they should be up there because they've
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: been winning these games, but it's like they're one of
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: those teams where if you've won five games, that are
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: overs teams that are not the best, like I just
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: I think one well, like if they lose a game,
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: it's like, man, they're gonna like most of the teams
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: right now in the conversation from making the playoffs deserve
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: to be there. It's like Vernon Virginia. It's like, how
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: good of a team are if you win almost every
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: game by like a field goal lest I don't know
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: there there were there were but a wins winn college football.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: So hats off to them. Their quarterback is legit. I
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: just weared about the rest of their team, that's all
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: but Texas Tech.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: At least they got their offense going again. True Definite
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: has been struggling a little.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: Bit Texas Tech I think has if if you exclude
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: the SEC and Ohio State an elite national championship defense,
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: that defense is fucking good. Now is it better than
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: bam Ohio State? I don't know, but that defense can
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: fucking play football, which I know you normally would never
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: say about Texas Tech. That defense is really damn good
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: because the way they played people. And I only lost
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: the game for saras Old State of the quarterback out,
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: but I just normally in the Big twelve, it's like
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: I got off and she got a complete team. Whatever.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: I'm just super impressed by their defense because they got
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: some boys. Now, obviously some oil money bought that roster,
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: but that's just one team, Chris, where when they make
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: the playoffs or if they get there, like if they
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: stay healthy, it's just that that is like an SEC
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: caliber defense that roly I used to seeing from teams
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: not in the SEC. So hats off to them. And
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: that backup quarterback has kind of been finding his room
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: a little bit more too. Again, I know that was
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: kind of a that was a lot of money involved there,
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: but that team's gelling. And if you think Lubbock's what
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: it used to be, that's not gonna be a cakewalk.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: That BYU one is gonna be fun. And lastly you
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: mentioned would you say Utah, Hey, I was wrong on
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: this one. I've been pretty good picks on the show
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: this year. I mean, not never perfect, but pretty good.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: I really thought that since he was gonna hang in
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: there pretty well because they've had a pretty offensive showing
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: of for the last month and Utah's not appeared to
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: have been the Utah of old, especially with what happened
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: to him by Texas Tech. But dude, they they got
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: ran out the gym times three like that may and
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: maybe that is why Utah was ranked again like that.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: That was a very impressive performance. And again we've said
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: it for the past I don't know, seven eight years,
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: Whittingham is the leitue coach. He maybe doesn't get the
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: five star talent that a Saban would or like Dabble
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: or Franklin. He's on the East Coast guy. But the
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: fact that that guy can put pretty much every year
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: put together a top twenty team without a doubt every
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: single season, it says a lot about him and his program.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, definitely with him, it's always you know, you
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: did wish he'd go to a top tier program to
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: see with the big boys. Sure, and to be fair,
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: like he took over for Urban Meyer, so Utah was good.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: You know when he took him over, he just sustained it.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: Uh And they moved to the back twelve. And we've
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: seen that the PAC tells pretty legit now that some
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: of these teams have moved over into other conferences. You know,
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: we've seen that Arizona State, Oregon, like, you know, we
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: know Washington's good. So yeah, that and it's like it's
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: like he just wants one more good year and then
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: he's gonna kind of take off. You know. That's what
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: it feels like, you know. So that's uh. Well, anyway,
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: USC I tried to let you talk about your boys,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: but for whatever reason, you don't want to talk about him.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: But Matt Rule is now oh and seven against top
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: twenty five teams in two and twenty three overall in
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: his ten year career. But I mean Nebraska, like it's
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: just they're oh in thirty in the last thirty games
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: against Rake opponents. They haven't beat a Rake it since
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. And I bring this up for a variety
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: of reasons, but we go back to the guy named Boat,
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: and they thought that their program was way better than
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: it was. And they didn't like nine or ten wins.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: They didn't like that, they didn't like beating ranked teams.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: They wanted to win a chip. So it is kind
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: of funny how all that worked out. Louisville needed seventeen
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: or twenty one points, they were down at half, they
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: needed twenty one points. They did get the job done,
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: though they pulled away. Michigan had a problem with Purdue.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: Purdue a few weeks ago was looking pretty good, but
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: they hadn't looked good lately, so that was kind of
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: a surprise. And then Houston getting beat by West Virginia.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: They got to be kicking themselves. And that duke I
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: got that duke plus three and a half, that Duke
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: Clemson forty six, forty five. Holy shit, that was crazy.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: Another game I didn't see coming was thirty to three
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: Baylor over you UCF. I thought that would be a
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: very close competitive game. That one kind of shook me.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: North Texas did their job, gave Navy their first loft.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: First losxcuse me, and then Jeff Simms. We know that
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: the starting quarterback now is out for the season for
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: Arizona State. But Jeff Simms, who's been places, Georgia Tech
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: being one of them, he had, you know, a big
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: game on the ground. ASU got a nice win, say
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: with New Mexico. That was another plus number that I
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: talked about they ended up winning. And then of course
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: my Gophers winning overtime in a crazy game. Any Oh,
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: and then Mississippi State Arkansas. I mean, take the crafty,
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: crappy pick out of it. The Arkansas dude. Someone tweeted this,
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: Arkansas might be the best two and seven team of
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: all time. Old miss forty one, thirty five loss, Memphis
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: thirty two to thirty one. Notre Dame whooped him, but
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: Tennessee thirty four to thirty one A and m forty five,
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: forty two, Auburn thirty three twenty four, and then thirty
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: eight thirty five. You got a feel for him. But
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: they are in some very competitive games, that's for sure.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're they cover the spread. I mean, that's yeah,
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: that's that's a team where and if you're Mississippi State,
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: you finally won an SEC game for the first time,
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: and I suppose something would be it would be three
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: seasons because they went over last year and this year
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: and one. You know, so it's it's been a minute,
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: but hey, we expect that to be a close game,
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: and it was. Yeah, if you're Arkansas man, and like
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: they say, I keep seeing these funny videos on TikTok,
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: and you know, Sam Pitmans probably just drinking some cold
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: Buran's on his deck watching the team play, Like damn it,
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: you know why my boye keep losing. But yeah, and
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: for USC man, the quarterback MIAs had a pretty next
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: year was and I have twenty three. So if you're
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: in Nebraska's defense and you hold a Lincoln Riley quarterback
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: nine to twenty three, it's like, okay, we're gonna win
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: the game.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: Like no. And so the first time you're basically talking
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: ball year long, this is what you say about him. Well,
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: it's a second time actually, because I remember before you
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: cracked a joke. But it is funny. This dude's had
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: a great year at Marshall.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: And this is the first time you're breaking is the
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: ship down all because of the Louisville kid. Wow.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: I'm a Miller Miller Moss fan through and through Miller Moss.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: So you don't like the kid what do you do
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: to you? Did you do something to your family or something?
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: I have nothing against mi am, I just know, yeah,
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: nothing against him.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: Do you hear that in the voice? Do you hear that?
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: But yeah, that uh, that was a fun weekend. Auburn
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: lost to Kentucky. That's where Hugh Freeze comes in. I
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: still can't believe Houston lost.
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: And you know, as we wrap this up, is North
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: Texas the next option if Memphis loses to be the
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: the playoff? The playoff like underdog story, I think they
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: might be.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: I mean it has to come out of the AAC,
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: which we'll get to. Yeah, yeah, like it does. Let's
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: get to the rankings. I thought they did a pretty
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: damn good job. Yes, I like how they stacked the
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: teams by head to heads. Joey Galloway once again company man.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: First of all, I love Joey Galloway. Ohio State watched
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: pretty much all his games. Big big fan of Joey Galloway.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: But he's a company man. We know ESPN and SEC
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: have the you know to me, I didn't like like
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: if they would have went Aggie's number one, I wouldn't
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: have blinked an eye. Actually, but the way. He kept saying,
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: So you're just you're just eye testing this, So we're
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: supposed to just look analytically, and that's it because who's
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: their best win? Notre Dame? Cool, all right, that's awesome.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: It's still a two loss team, though, because who's Notre
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: Dame's best team? Will you or win usc? To me,
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: I just thought it was weird because if we're going
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: to analytically, Indiana has a good win, it's a it's actually,
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: according to the rankings, better than Notre Dame. So to me,
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: I just thought he kept saying that, oh, you're just
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: eye testing it. We hold on, what do you mean
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: eye testing it? Like so so A and M just
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: has to be because of analytics. That's that kind of
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: threw me off. But I really didn't have a problem
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: with the rankings. I thought they did a pretty good job.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: What says you, sir?
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: I agree? I mean, if if if we're talking eye
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: tests helped put Indiana.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: They yeah, because that's the thing, that's an obvious one.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: They've been close with other teams too, so Auburn and
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: Arkansas those aren't chump teams. But yeah, they didn't go
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: ahead and knock them off easy.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: You know, like we said before, for my eye test,
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: I do think that like a Texas Tech and Oregon
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: are better football teams than BYU just to me for
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: an eye test, I would maybe would have switched them
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: around for rankings. But besides that, I think it's it's
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: they did a good job. Again, I think you had
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: to have Bama above Georgia's because they was a head
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: to head and old miss Like, you know, I'm happy
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: my boys are there. Yeah, what's been their best win
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: this year? Yeah, I don't know, like yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: I guess, yeah, true, Vandy so.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: And then then they have a quality loss yeah yeah.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: So I mean overall, I think they did a great job.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: The top four. You can maybe debate, like we said
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: for the show, who should be where, But I think
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: the top four or the top four, which is really
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: all we've ever wanted. Yeah, sometimes obviously your your team,
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: Phantom gets involved in this and you're passionate for your squad,
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: But put the right four teams up top four, because
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: that's a battle we used to have to fight with
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: that we would disagree with them. This year, there's no
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: fighting that. I think if people wanted to fight that
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: the top four teams are wrong, I'd have to hear
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: a really valid excuse, and I really don't see what
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: it would be to say Old miss would be the
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: top four or George. I mean, George is the way
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: they played, you know, but the top four is right,
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: So it's really all we can ask for and then
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: the other one's going to figure themselves out. But I
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: love Chris at the committee. You know, last year we
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: had the well if you win at your conference, he
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: had top four. This year it's who do you think
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: the top four best teams are. I think that that
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: was the decision they made after one year and they
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: flipped it, and I think that's gonna lead just to
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: a better playoff and a more fair deserving ownership to
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: the teams to get the top four who get the
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: first buy. So I love they made that tweak, and
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: I think it's only going to make the product a
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: better and more well deserving for those top four teams.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: That's why it wasn't worth every show, every round of
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: the playoffs arguing about it not between us, but you know,
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: it's such a complaint and it's like, Okay, that's true.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: We've established it though, and it's going to get changed,
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: So stop dragging it through the mud over and over again.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: You know, to me, that was always bullshit because they
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: fixed it right away. They've now done really well with
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: the transfer portal. Not only did they take away the spring,
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: but they give a month to be able to get
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: ready for the Bowl games and also finished that early
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: day signing instead of also on top of that have
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: to worry about free agency. Basically, they did a good
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: job with that, you know. So I, for one, just
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: wish we wouldn't romanticize the past when you'd had split
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: champions in a variety of things. And look at what
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: we're dealing with. And this goes right into it, Marshall.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: If you look at you know, right on ESPN dot
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: com and going through the standings, and look at this
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: ship in November, four weeks left, and we know, even
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: with two weeks left, we think we got to figure
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: it out, right, Marshall, And then all of a sudden,
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: all hell, bracelets. We've seen it time and time again.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: We just saw it on the first Saturday of the month.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: Look at the a C the a AAC Navy five
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: and one Memphis five and one North Texas to your
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: point four and one two Lane. You know, they're playing
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: a big game. The Bulls are I mean this, this
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: shit's crazy, dude, like that. It's great. They're they're all
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: in the mix right there. So I love it. Obviously.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: The North Texas thing, you'd have to say the Bulls
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: have an advantage there because they beat them head to head.
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: They whooped them.
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they whooped them good. So but you know, you
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: get you still got to hang on. Now. The a
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: CC is playing out like the Coastal did for years,
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: and Virginia is on a seven game winning streak. They
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: have a loss in conference, but it doesn't count as
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: a conference game to NC State, so they're five and
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: oh but you look at Georgia Tech, Pitt, Louisville, SMU,
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: and Duke all one loss teams. Marshall, I mean, it's crazy.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: And in Pitt has to take on Notre Dame, Pitt
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: takes on Miami, and I think they play somebody else too.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is phenomenal, dude.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: How the hell does NC State have three losses? Yet
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: you beat Georgia Tech relatively handily, and you beat Virginia.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: And Pitt did lose to Louisville already. Yeah, they got
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: they got dude, they got Notre Dame Georgia Tech in Miami.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: That's who Pitt closes with.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: Jesus, good luck Pitt.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: But also if you want to say that, you know,
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: we control our own destiny. You know. Either way though,
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: even if they don't control her or they do, but
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. They can play heartbreaker too, so they
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: don't got to win all those games. All they need
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: to do is beat one of them. They fuck them,
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: Yep, that's what Pitt's always been great at heartbreak end
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: of the year, always.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: Be great and dude, not that Miami's really in the
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: race that way, but as far as playoffs, they play
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: at pitt last game of the year in the cold probably,
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: So yeah, that's pretty dope. Okay, Big twelve, you feel
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: like you have a little bit more handle on this one.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: The top two teams they play each other, you know,
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: they play this this week obviously, yes, B, why you
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: will get into that Texas Tech, Texas Tech. You know,
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: like Cincinnati just lost, Houston just lost, and that's why
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: we say they got to be kicking themselves. Utah, B,
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: why you and the Race Raiders beat them so they're
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: out of it. Shouts out the sims. But you doubt
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: that ASU, even though they do have a win over
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: text Tech, I don't know how much more they can
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: you know, how much more damage they can go? Let
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: me actually see what they got left? Well, yeah, West Virginia,
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: Colorado and Arizona. So maybe ASU will keep that around.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: But you figure, especially if really honestly, if Texas Tech
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: wins this game, it's probably a rap, you know. Yeah, yeah,
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: that's what it feels like anyway.
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think they will. Now that would have
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: them them and BAU both at five and one, they'd
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: have a tiebreaker. But I mean maybe that opens a
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: little bit for a second place, because that opens the
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: door for a second for sure. But that b Yu
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: is left with at Tech TCU at Sincy home to UCF,
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: that's not a cake walk, that's non That is challenging. Yeah,
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: it is, it is, so I would Yeah, if if
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: you're since he uh, you just can't have a hiccup.
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: They did get their butt kicked by by Utah Lassie
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: since he finishes with Arizona host b y U at TCU. Man,
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be fun. But if you're if you're since
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: you know, no but if you're since he if you
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: finished being in Arizona, b y U and TC you're
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: you're gonna be playing Textas Tech for the conference title
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: more likely. Yeah, hey, b YU. I know I said,
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: I've been a little maybe thought they're a little highly
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: ranked with the way they finished their year, Chris, they're
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: going if they win these games enough that they'll they'll
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: be well deserved. I know I've been a little skeptical.
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: But you got at Texas Tech, TCU, at since c U,
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: c F. Those are four really hard opponents. And if
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: you would go three and one, I'll put you in
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: the playoff for sure that that'd be that'd be.
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: Probably rematch too.
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: And yeah true right, yeah, yeah true.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: So and remember a fair amount of those kids, not
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: the quarterback, but the pair amount of those kids went
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: deep last year, going undefea to remember true. Yeah, you're right,
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: so you know we can't. It's funny because when they
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: first came to the Big twelve, BYU kind of had
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: a really bad season and their basketball team popped up. Well,
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: now they're basketball team's pumping, But all of a sudden,
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: you go, well, hey, hang on, they had a damn
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: good year last year. And so yeah, it's kind of
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: funny how this works out. But yeah, they're they're right
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: in there. That's a big game and then the Big Ten. Yeah,
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: of course Ohio State. They still have a Michigan problem.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: So Michigan could sneak up and you know, you would
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: think it'd be a problem, but as we know, it's
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: the kryptonite right now. Well, you know, that's a big game.
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: It always is generally, But you feel like the Hoosiers
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: and the Buckeyes are gonna be in the conference final.
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: But when you look at the Ducks, Iowa Trojans, like
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: they're all right there, and you know, USC does have
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: a win over Michigan in a in a resounding one
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: as well. In Michigan lost their their star running back.
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: He may not come back. It's tough to say. Will
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: he come back in a month. They're gonna need him
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: to beat Ohio State. But Oregon plays Iowa, you know,
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: they play USC, and they play Washington, so this thing
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: is still wide open to get that to get into
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: the playoffs. You know, Oregon's nine, they're in the playoffs
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: right now. Guess what they got their work cut out.
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they really do. Let me just ask you this question, Chris,
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: right now, just for fun.
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: Is it have anything to do with nineteen sixty three
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: or anything like that?
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: No, okay, okay, but right now, who do you think
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: is the better team? Or if if Indiana plays Ohio State,
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: who do you think would win? Because I think last
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: year obviously we saw play out. This year, I think
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: it's a pretty damnube matchup. I think a few weeks
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: ago we would have been like, I don't know, but
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: I feel the way Indian has played for like the
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: past month, I feel I hear a lot of people
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: on ESPN, and I think sometimes you and I know
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: it's as much as they do. I feel this is
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: pretty much kind of a coin toss matchup. Do you
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: have a gut either way who you think it has
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: been better this year? Or or you know? Or maybe
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: I should just say, do you think they're on the
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: same playing field this year? Because last year there definitely
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: was a separation.
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: I think it's a lot closer than last year, and
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: kind of what I said about BYU as far as vibes,
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: they had that great year last year, but they're a
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: better team. They got a better quarterback obviously, crue. Yes,
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: I think they have better wide receivers. I think their
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: defense is better. I mean, they just ran the ball
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: on Maryland. What did they was it like three hundred
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: some odd yards like? And I'll tell you what, I
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: just hope they don't get these dudes hurt, blown people out.
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: I will say that, yeah, true, you know that isn't
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: worry and they're they're they're fourteen point favorite this weekend,
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: but they're so so soul trum. I can't remember that
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: one of the wide receiver's names, but he's a little
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: banged up. He may not play, but that that's one
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: thing I'd worry about, is playing these guys too deep.
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: We get it that you want oh boy to win
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: the Heisman, but what do you want? What do you want?
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: Do you want to win the championship or do you
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: want to win the Heisman? You know that is something
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: that I will say about Signetty, that the ship could
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: come crashing down real quick if that quarterback gets hurt.
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: But I think it's a yeah, I think I do
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: think Ohio State will be favored. But yeah, inside in
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: the turf, you know, if there's not gonna be weather
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: for either one of them, if in fact it gets there,
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: sure to assume it does. Yeah, I think it's much closer,
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: and we got to get there first, but yeah, I
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: think it's really close. And they have you know, going
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: to Oregon was a great win, and they I would
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: say their second win you know, at Iowa or at Washington.
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: It's in the ballpark, you know. Yeah. And then and
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: that defense only gave up thirteen points because there was
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: a pick six in that organ game, So they only
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: gave up thirteen to Oregon. You know, SEC break it
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: down for.
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: Us, sir, what I there's no there's nine rate teams. Yes,
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: nine rate teams.
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: So this is kind of looking like the SEC and
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: basketball with all these ranked teams.
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is obviously A and M right now, and
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: BAM are the top two, uh because they have, yeah,
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: both undefeated and conference play and and overall obviously Georgia
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: as pesky as hell. They're a voice to be reckoned
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: with to make a playoff team, Old Miss, you have
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: probably the easiest schedule of all teams I've just listed
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: in front of you. Lane, you can't have a slip
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: up here. This this is your year. Because obviously A
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: M's got their hands full. Bama still has some challenging
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: games left for Lane this year. No, because Texas has
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: a hard schedules to go Oklahoma, heart sketch, to go
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: Vandy and Tennessee. Your playoff chances are not dead. They're small,
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: but they're not dead yet. So I and for the
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: most part, Chris, besides old Miss and Missoo, and Missoo's
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: probably chances especial quarterback being out probably dead to none.
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: But besides uh old Miss and Missoo, a lot of
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: teams got to play each other. So we could debate
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: who think it's gonna win the ACC, but it really there.
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: There's gonna be so many cross matches left that last
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: week when it's Bama, Auburn and A and M playing Texas. Man,
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: we're gonna be in for a.
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: Treat that Texas too, isn't it.
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah? And Georgia plays Georgia Tech. I know it's a
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: cross conference matchup, but still a very important matchup for
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: playoff caliber experiences. Yeah, so it's it's been. It's been
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: a really fun year. I would say though that if
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: you're Oklahoma or Vandy, you probably got to run the table.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: Is it fair? Yea, because you could say that you're
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: just as good as all of those other teams. But
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: with the conference you're in, if you have three conference losses,
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: a team like Old Missigan and sneaking above you even
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: though they've had easier schedules because you can't have three
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: conference losses. So in Texas again you're you're getting your
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: ship on the right track. But again, yeah, a lot
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: of hard games left the SEC. There's still lots of
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: heavyweight fights to go down, which makes the conference and
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: joy able to watch. And hey for ELCO again, the
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: coverags were not empty Chris. But there you heard you
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: heard stories about just how maybe the players were kind
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: of doing their own thing or what you know, Jimbo
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: just wasn't whatever you can say to come in do
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: what he's done quickly as he has this pretty impressive
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: and to get that's like dude, a dude from Duke
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: comes in and just also, now Aggie's are third in
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: the country, Like that is I'm not again, I'm not
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: saying turn your program around from like the death Pill.
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: He definitely didn't because they were some of the most
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: talented team in the in the country.
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you got him on the right page, same page.
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: Now you're now you're undefeated and your your your playoff
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: chances are looking really good enough for hearing him now.
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: Could they still miss it, for sure, but they're still
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: pretty good right now, which is a tip too.
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: I don't think they can. I don't think they'll miss it.
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: It'd be unlikely. I'm you know, they could, but it
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: would take it'd be it'd be a very surprising. Let's see,
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: they finished with.
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: Atording enjoy yallowie, they can't miss it.
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: Okay, Well, the Atmaszoo is probably gonna be a win.
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: They got South Carolina Stanford and at Texts even they
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: lost two games, they probably yeah, you're right, Okay, I.
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: Think they get in regardless, that's fair. But they it
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: would be a sneak in because we'll see if Massoo
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: can still be a ranked team, you know.
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and losing one to be able to kill missou
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: other thirsteon quarterback is kind of just a tough pill
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: for him to swallow.
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: Yep, exactly. And uh yeah, So it's it's definitely, uh,
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: definitely up in the air. Even if we think we
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: know who's going to be in the conference finals in
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: some of these, it doesn't matter, man. It's and that's
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: where you start to say the fourteen and sixteen kind
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: of what you just talked about, all these ranked teams
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: and all these chances. When I when I think the
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: fourteen or sixteen, as long as they hold it, hold
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: it there for like a decade to see how it
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: plays out. I mean, I think I'd be okay with
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: it because teams like my team then would have a
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: chance to sneak in, you know, like sometime you know
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: that eleven and two years we had twenty nineteen, we
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: would have been in. You know, So like, yeah, it's
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: one of those things that I don't. I wouldn't. I wouldn't.
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: Uh if it does fourteen, because memory, it was fourteen
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: before I was sixteen. If they want to give the
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: number one and number two a bye, I think I'm
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: okay with that because this is hard. But my guess
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: is they're just going to do sixteen. As long as
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: they just keep it at sixteen, I think it's fine
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: because even last year, we know how South Carolina was playing.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: Last year, Yes, oh yeah, they could have won a game.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: They could have wor sure and old Miss Bama they
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: could have won a game. Yep. If you want to
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: get into a track meet, last year you might get
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: beat by Miami fifty to fifty two. You know, like
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: it could have those are worthy teams to be in
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: the in that like it's still entertaining. You know, yes,
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: so somebody can have a down year, but they're a
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: big name and it's still gonna So then that that
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: smaller team that's having a great year they're going. It's
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: actually it's much like boxing, where you got an A side
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: and a B side, and you know, you could be
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: the team that people don't know as much. But then
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: if you beat and establish you know, blue, look it
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: just you know, it sparks it up. So that's basically
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: what's happening. That's what's going on. It will be interesting
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: to see though, in the next few years what happens
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: with these programs that fired their coaches this year. It's
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: gonna be interesting, all right, Week eleven b YU in
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: loven eleven o'clock Central Time, ABC ten point Dog. Would
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: you buy some points as a plus number or do
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: you think Texas is gonna roll?
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: I would I wouldn't say roll because but I think
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: Texas tech WinCE again. I've said I can't go back
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: my words, as I said twins, I think Texas Tech
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: has legit ass defense. It's like not typical for Big twelve,
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: so they're gonna I don't see Byu going off on them.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: I do think obviously they'll be there for game day.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: I wish it was at night too. I wish it
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: be like seven o'clock in night game. But I think
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: I think Texas Tech wins by like fourteen, so I
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: would take them with the points. I don't think they
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: run about same because Byu that and Satani their coach,
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: they don't. They never really get blown out. But man,
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: and maybe it's just because I've watched more text Tech,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: but I just think they're the better team. Chris Byu
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: nothing to be ashamed of. They've had some good games here.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: They've they beat Iowa State, which is hard to do.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: An aims they beat Utah that's good win as well.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: I guess I'm just a little more biased towards the
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: Red Raiders and that back quarterback. Now he's had a
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: couple of games to kind of get the rhythm going
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: and just keep building his way up. I think you're
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: seeing the skill players they brought in and continue to
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: gel a little bit.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: Well's now too, Okay, Okay, wells hurt. Now that other guy,
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: Morton has to stay healthy now because yeah, the other
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: dude's hurt.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, so so Morton's back. I think you're seeing
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: the maturation of the guys. They kind of all brought
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: and played together. And yeah, I think I'll say I'll say,
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: let's see, I'll say Texas Tech. Uh, thirty eight thirty
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: eight twenty four Texas Tech.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: So here's some interesting Fox facts on Fox Sports. Right,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: the Red Raiders have recovered sixteen fumbles or in also
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: for seventeen fumbles. The recovery is number one the NCAA,
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: and the forest is number two. Okay, Now, the Cougars
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: seven interceptions is the fifth most on the road, so
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: that all those came on the road, it's the fifth most.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: So that kind of tells you something right there. As
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: far as how it could play out, I'm eyeballing. If
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: that thing keeps going a plus fourteen and a half
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: or something like that, I may look at it. But yeah,
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: I like Texas Tech and M Missouri, you know, I
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: like miszour or I like A and M. With the
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: points it's only seven, I'll take it.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: I think if if Perbula was healthy that would be
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: that would be a really fun game to break down.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: But you're in your third string quarterback. Yeah, I think
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: that I gotta take the Aggies with the points. They've
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: been playing good football if you if you can run
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: out LSU on their home field, you can do the
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: same thing at Miszoo on a third string QB.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: I'm with you.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: I'll take Aggies with the points.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: So we're gonna go to to Iowa. Okay, and rain
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: is in the forecast. High have forty seven and rain
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: is in the forecast. Okay, oh boy, now yep now,
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: and you know it's cold rain, so I guess Oregon
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: will be used to that, but usually this early it's
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: not necessarily that temperature. I bring that up not because
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: they're not afraid that. They're not afraid of the rain, obviously,
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: but Breton McMurphy just pointed out that the totals dropped
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: from forty four and a half to forty and a
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: half and he put a little umbrella, so he's like,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: it's going to rain. It's going to rain on him.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: You know, I see this get as low as five
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: and a half. I remember you talking about how you
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: felt like it was it actually should be higher. How
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: do you see this one breaking down? Because the Iowa
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: so I was come around offensively, it's not pretty, but
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: they got their run game going with running backs. You know,
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: they'll do those end the rounds all that shit. But
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: this guy is he's not going pro right, it's how
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: they this Gronowski but he dude, he has fifteen fucking touchdowns.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: Like he is still getting in there somehow, like he's
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: he and they it's like they, I don't know it.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: They're they're they're improving. Their offense is improving. It's not
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: exactly what you want in an offense. And I'm not
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: saying they're gonna win the chip, you know, but this
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: is a dangerous game, and their defense's top flight. They're
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: the only ones that have contained Indiana. They lost twenty
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: to fifteen. Now there was a safety in there right
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: at the end of that game.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: In fact, yeah, yeah, yeah, he ran back wheres thirty
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: five yards.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: Yes, yep. So they held them pretty damn good, better
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: than Oregon, and Oregon's got a good defense. So what
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: says you in this one? So if it's six and
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: a half, are you feeling confident with that number?
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: Then I really was I will say the weather that
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: does kind of make me get a little hesitant, just
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: because you're right if it's a raining, like muddy, kind
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: of dirty afternoon, and I like, dude, that that is,
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: that's typical. I went out Oregon's luck. He's saying a
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: six thirty start because Kinnick and Knight is a different beast.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: They're very generous. CBS is most in game two thirty.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: But you're if if it's like forty eight degrees and
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: it's over under forty and a half, this tells me
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: everything about Iowa. But I do think that Oregon just
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: has again the skill set players UH to get the
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: job done. So I would maybe stay away a little
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: bit from me hesany pounding the six and a half.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: Like I mentioned while ago, I'd much rather feel way
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: more confident ben A and m my six and a
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: half compared to Oregon with the weather and the conditions, because.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: Do you like the over now that it's down to
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: forty and a half. Though, well, I know, I think
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: I'm staying away from this game unless it gets too
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: high for uh, if it gets to like plus seven
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: and a half or plus eight and a half, then
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: I'll go with Oregon.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: But Orgon didn't score. Oregon didn't score a lot of
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: points versus Penn State to the little teen and Oregon
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: did score a lot of points versus Indiana. So maybe
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: my Oregon love is thirteen points miss misguided.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: They scored thirteen because they had to pick six. Oh
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: boy threw a pick six, so they didn't that offense
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: didn't score.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: And did they only score thirteen or fourteen before overtime
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: vers Penn State two seventeen seven. Yeah, so, And.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: Honestly, if it wasn't for a blade of grass, you know,
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: remember that the blade of grass, we saw the digital glot,
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: you know, like that was a big play right there.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: That could have changed that game, you know.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: All right, So I'll take I'll whip out. I'll take
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: the Oregon money. I think Oregon wins, but if it
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: is raining money that just that is a typical Iowa
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: sque game. They'll keep it close. Uh see, I'm gonna
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: I'll retack, retrace forwards a little bit. I'll take Oregon
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: to win. I'd be nervous about them covering.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: It's just weird that now that we're here, Iowa has
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: a better defense than Penn State, which is no, which
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: isn't a bad defense by any stretch. But but I'd
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: say this year and then they also got the special
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: teams slash defense. It's a touchdown vibes like they always
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: do they dude. Remember a few years ago they were
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: punting like seventy nine eighty two. Dude. They've punted like
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: not like around thirty times this year, Like they haven't
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: punted much, dude, So it's it's not a great I
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: don't know, there's just something about them. They're kind of
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: back to where they were where You're like, I don't
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: know that they can run the ball now. They make
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: these little explosive plays randomly, like the Gophers young quarterback
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: got caught up. They were switching all sorts of shit
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: on them after you know, post snap, and it fooled them,
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: and then it picked six. Then a punt return it's
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: seventeen zip. You're like, what just happened? You know? So, yeah,
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: it's kind of interesting, kind of interesting. Okay, Vany's gonna
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: bounce back against Auburn. I guess the only thing you
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: could say is win one for the Giffer. You know
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: that that there is there is such a thing. Is
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: you played better because there's a fire in your ass.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: But I still think Vandy's just got too much focused
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: here that they'll win that game. But you know, Lake
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: Forrest just got their ass whooped, and maybe if they
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: would have lost heartbreaking style, I'd be like, oh no,
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: Virginia's got this. But they got their ass whooped, So
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: they're gonna be a little excited here. And they beat SMU.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: We talked about how they should have beat George Tech.
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  Speaker 1: They had a close game against North Carolina State. Is
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  Speaker 1: this the week that Virginia finally slips up again in
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: the ACC? Actually?
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  Speaker 2: In the ACC, man, I don't This team has won
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  Speaker 2: five luck now luck well, okay, they've won five games. Real,
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: they've all been close. They could have lost any of
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: the five, but they're at home. I don't think this
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  Speaker 2: is the week where they slip up. I yeah, I
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: think Virginia finds a way to keep this game going
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: because they're at home. They've had and to their current
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: they what's cal and Cal's a tricky place to go.
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  Speaker 2: So I do think they maybe get the troops together
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  Speaker 2: a little bit here. And this is a bit of
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  Speaker 2: a drop down competition too, so I will take uh, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I think UVA wins this one. Yeah, I think they
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  Speaker 2: take care of business this week.
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  Speaker 1: My friend too late at Memphis Friday night Lights along
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: with Northwestern. USC Western's got a pretty good defense. They
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: actually are starting around out a little bit. They're they're
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: not a bad team. They're not great, but they're they're
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: pretty good. They're decent. What says you about uh? You
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: think you think? I think Memphis. Memphis gonna keep it rolling.
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  Speaker 2: So I think the point spread is indicative of the
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: fact that this listen to my guy Vernal that Memphis
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: quarterback has been hurt too of the past three games.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: He was on crutches three weeks ago, late the next week. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Benga believe beginning this week. So I do think that
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: if the quarterback was healthy er, they'd have a bit
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: of a higher spread, and I think he'll play. But again,
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: when your quarterback has been on crutches and limping like
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: two last three games, it makes you wonder a little bit. Obviously,
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: for Memphis, this is a must win game if you
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: want to have your playoff chances. They're there right now.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: But to flipping around and maybe it.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: Gives up a bunch of run too, So I think
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: that's a problem.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: But for some reason, everyone everyone wants the hardest toiling coach,
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: So maybe that maybe he can put something together that
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: represents that. Maybe he's gonna this could be a good
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: representation stilling point for him, because he's He's on a
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: lot of Christmas list is for coaching, that's for sure.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: So yeah, he's going somewhere. I'll take Memphis to win,
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: and you know, they've had some matt the hell. They
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: came back from seventeen down to beat UCF and then
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: they all or USF and they also had the crazy
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: comeback win versus Arkansas. So it's been kind of a
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: magical year for them at home. I don't think they
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: slip up here. But they need the quarterbacks to be
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: healthy because when that quarterback got knocked out of the game,
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: that's when they lost to UTSA. So they got to
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: hope that Lewis is healthy and they win. If he's out,
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: then it's a I would say it's coin flip. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: I think USC. I hope you'll see wins. They should.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: The fourteen a half is a bit scary with Lincoln.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well I don't think they'll cover.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't think they'll cover either, but I
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: do think they win.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: Yes, I wonder if they're ever going to get their
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: running backs back. That Miller is a great story. But man,
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: it'd be nice to bring a wave of guys, you know, true, Yeah,
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: because they got some super high level running backs too.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: If they could just get a healthy that night, FS
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: one Houston and Central Florida would be a good game too.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: Speaking of quarterbacks being hurt, though, Nebraska Ryola is hurt
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: and you got a favorite over them and a half
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: at home. It's kind of interesting. Also, a let's see
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: a cover I got. Where is it? West Virginia and Colorado?
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: I think it was six and a half now, you know,
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: coming down off of High I get it, but it
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: just seems like Colorado's in rebuild mode and they've been
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: getting Yes, now, I guess you could, like I said,
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: coming off of High and who thought West Virginia was
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: gonna be Houston? I get that, but I'd feel pretty
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: good at them winning by seven.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah. This that Colorado secondary is bad. It's it's it's
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: it's scary, like.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: Is just inconsistent, you know, yes, yeah, so it's not
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: like the last two years they've had that offense to
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: keeping games or win games. But it's just it sometimes
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: looks great other time is not so much true.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I concur.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: All right, sir, let's uh, let's give me the game
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: and then you can break down what happened last week
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: and where we're at and oh my god.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: Okay, man, I've been waiting what we come acc.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: Just going big games this year. This year, I've been
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: a big games.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: I've been waiting a long time to say. So We're
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: going ACC six o'clock ACC Network Florida State versus Clemson. Okay,
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: for the record, we're five and five on the year.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: We had we had another crazy razorback game, because that's
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: all that team does. We're five and five on the year,
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: looking to be six and five. This game is a
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: memorial stadium. Some people call it Death Valley, but you know,
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: the coach there is not quite as good as the
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: l's coaches in the past, so.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: It smells like dead bodies right about now.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you can get in the door for fifty bucks.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't give that to dab Bubble. I'm not gonna attend. Hey, yeah,
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: I might spread on the coaches. So Florida State's four
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: and four in the year one and Foreign Conference mister
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: Dabo just lost a duke for the first time since
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: nineteen eighty. His team is three and five is two
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: and Foreign Conference Clemson's a two and a half point favorite.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: And again, this is the first time in our twelve
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: years I have done this segment that he's on the show.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: So ryand of applause to Davil Sweeden for making the
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: craft Craft pick the week. You can see my shit
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: grined on the webcam. Chris, take it away, brother on
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: what your gut says for this six o'clock ACC matchup
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: sixty three degrees And Sonny.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: No, I'll give you credit because this was more like
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: all these twelve years, very smooth. Okay, you got the
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: alignment right, the format was right. Congratulations, that's awesome. Now
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to make a rule here soon if
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: you keep doing this. Okay, I don't like making rules,
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: but I'm starting to think this is the third week
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: in a row that if one of the teams wins,
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: they'll be above five hundred. Okay, how many more Power
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: Conference games are we gonna pick? I mean, godly Okay.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: Now I haven't made the rule, Okay, but if you
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: keep going, this is supposed to be ship games. It's
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: this is a shitty game. I get it. But when
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: a team wins, they're five and four. If the team
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: I'm picking wins, they're gonna be five and four three
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: straight weeks. Just just just a warning. I'm not just
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: just putting that out there.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: I've been I've been given a yellow card.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, and it's a strong one too. Okay,
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: now that it does fit though, FSU I'll say their
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: defense is uh decent for this for this section. And
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: they're averaging forty points a game. I mean, the Florida
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: State doesn't fit in this one actually, just not their
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: record of course, forty points a game. They're averaging two
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: sixty nine through the air and two forty three on
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: the ground. How are they not better? Well, they've had
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: a lot of tight games, as we know. Clemson twenty
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: eight points, which is really bad for them. They're giving
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: up twenty four, but they're not they actually they only
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: give up one oh six on the ground, right, Kate,
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: club Nick? Is he playing or does he got a club? Nick?
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: Did he just play? Yeah, he's played, he played, he played.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: So According to Fox Facts, the seminoles six sacks in
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: the red zone of the most in the NC Double A.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: Seminoles twenty seven touchdowns are the ninth most in the
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: NC Double A. And you're calling this a crafty, crappy pick.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: Jesus Chris, Okay, you know, as much as I hate
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: to say it, I'm going Florida State. I'm going with
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: the slide underdog, Florida State fifty six. And we noticed
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: how we've just given up on the other one too,
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: probably because we're doing better this year. Yeah, fifty six,
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: do you go over? Maybe you should pick that? What
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: do you think about that?
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: Because hell, I think I would take States defense isn't
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: that bad? Well, but Clenson's been in like some high
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: scoring Hell, the duke game was in the forties. I
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: would take the over here.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, coming off of forty two to seven victory
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: where they're eleven and a half point spread over Wake,
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: I'm going Florida State.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: They found something, Okay, all right, Hey, hey, I had
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: a chance to get Dabbo in this window and I
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: seized it.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: I get it, I get it. But you're pushing it
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: with this above five hundred shit, we're you used to
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: two in six against one, and.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: We're of those.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: You're gonna start this guy every week. I'm starting to
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: believe it. I'm not a big conspiracy I need evidence,
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: but you know what, I got three weeks of evidence.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: All of this a sudden All right, next week I
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: will do next week. I've been yellow carded. I don't
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 2: want to get red because we can't lose this segment.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: If we lose the segment, you might find new co hosts.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: So I wonder I already put in a rule this
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: year with no power against little I don't want to
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: put two rules in a year, you know what I mean?
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: So uh, for the alumni battle, we'll start off with
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: Florida State. Number one on Google is Richard Simmons, followed
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: by Burt Reynolds and Cheryl Hines. Obviously a respectable list.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: Obviously Charlie Ward. He's having a rough Charlie Wards.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Jim Jim Morris, and the singer.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: Right, yeah, you went there before he went to u
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: c l A.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: A lot, Scott Stapp another singer. You can listen a
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: lot of obviously great athletes from Florida State. There's no
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: denying that at all. Chris Winkie.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: I mean but Jim Morrison, that's a good poll.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of very talented receivers, a lot of
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: great NFL players and basketball players. Hell Leonard Leonard Hamilton's
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: on my favorite coaches of all time. The dude looks
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: like he's been fifty forever and he's like seventy seven
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 2: now coaching hoops there, and they've had he's had about
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: twelve guys go pro in the NBA. So Florida State
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: definitely has a very strong alumni list to what Clemson offers.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: Their number one person I believe is Nicky Haley, who
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: I believe is in politics. I was okay, Horace Grant
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: was with Jordan for some bulls rings. I did not
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: know that Brian Dawkins was an NFL Hall of Famer
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: or Brian Dawkins went to Clemson. I was unaware of that.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: Dale Davis was a solid pacer obviously, Trevor Lawrence and
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: the NFL now DeAndre Hopkins.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: But we we can't so Jim Morrison and Burt Reynolds,
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah it is.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: And and they and their sport alumni crew is stronger
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: than Clemson's alumni crew. Yeah, so he's taking Florida State
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 2: I'm taking Florida State and alumni Daddles going down. He's
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: gonna be favorite, gonna lose, he will. He will lose
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: this game and never be in the crafty crafty pick against.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 3: He can't become one and one might end up in
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 3: this category, but I would I would never pick them
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 3: the games that want to be one until the day
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 3: I got the show is done.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: He would stay on one forever. It would make my day.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: So I'm not gonna do the tom chop because i
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: might get banned from the show. But I'm gonna be
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: here for f s U. Hopefully you get the job
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: done then we can move on.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be a double dip above five hundred Florida
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: State in US.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: Next next week. It's gonna be like Utah State Valley
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: versus you know, Limps to Come State University, and we'll
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: get back back.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: To the titles of the stadiums that just make you laugh,
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: So on that note, Hey, it's the poll came out,
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: the playoffs came out and looked pretty realistic, and hey,
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: ten years ago we were praying for something like this.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: We're going in the right direction. But as Chris said,
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 2: we have like four conference races that are all still
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 2: wide open, which makes this show a whole lot of fun.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: We're almost the December, baby, that's when it really gets going,
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: so enjoy. The Night Boys were out peace