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ICE Agents Aren't Gestapo · The Wes Carroll Morning Show

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Speaker 1: The news, opinions, commentary, and interviews. You need to start
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Speaker 1: your day. You're listening to the West Carrol Morning Show.
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Speaker 2: Thursday morning, twenty fifth day of September. I'm West thanks
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Speaker 2: for joining me. We have had another preventable shooting took
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Speaker 2: place at the ice facility in Dallas, Texas. I'm sure
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Speaker 2: you've heard this news. This shooting. The shooter identified. I
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Speaker 2: don't care to say his name. I don't think it's important.
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Speaker 1: I think.
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Speaker 2: There's a sad tragedy when someone takes their own life,
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Speaker 2: and it seems that that is the case in this
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Speaker 2: particular shooting situation. I know some would say, who cares?
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Speaker 2: This is someone who fired at people inside an ice facility.
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Speaker 2: Apparently according to the authorities, they say that this was
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Speaker 2: a targeted attack and that he just sort of fired
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Speaker 2: indiscriminately at the building. And I know some would just say, hey,
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Speaker 2: the fact that he took his own life, it's still
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Speaker 2: a tragedy. It's still part of this tragedy. I know
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Speaker 2: when they count the fatalities in it and they say that,
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Speaker 2: you know, one was killed and then second was when
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Speaker 2: the shooter took his own life. I know some have
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Speaker 2: no sympathy in that situation. What we're clearly dealing with
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Speaker 2: with here yet again, is another person is a twenty
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Speaker 2: nine year old who decided that, you know, firing at
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Speaker 2: this facility was somehow justified or maybe it was some
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Speaker 2: sort of a calling. I don't know. We don't know why,
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Speaker 2: because he did take his own life. I consider anytime
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Speaker 2: someone takes their own life to be a great tragedy,
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Speaker 2: no matter the circumstance involved in it. I know that
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Speaker 2: that would come to some mixed reaction by some. But
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Speaker 2: the fact that we have someone who clearly, and I
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Speaker 2: say this all the time, when someone is ready to
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Speaker 2: start firing shots at human beings with the purposes of
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Speaker 2: taking a life, there's something there that is causing this
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Speaker 2: to be something that they believe to be justified in
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Speaker 2: some way. And I'm coming into this speaking about the
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Speaker 2: fact that we don't have a whole lot of information
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Speaker 2: on this information coming in. We know the guy was
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Speaker 2: twenty nine. There have been reports apparently that the family
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Speaker 2: was contacted and wasn't ready to talk about it. That
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Speaker 2: was the early stages of all this, and that authority
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Speaker 2: say that three detainees shot, one of them killed a
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Speaker 2: gunman then died of a self inflicted gunshot wound, and
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Speaker 2: the FBI calling it a targeted attack, the Department of
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Speaker 2: Homeland Security saying that it was a deranged gunman who
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Speaker 2: fired indiscriminately from a nearby rooftop. The Director of Homeland
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Speaker 2: Security Christinome, saying that it's the inflammatory political rhetoric that
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Speaker 2: needs to be toned down. She said, for months, we've
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Speaker 2: been warning politicians and the media to tone down their
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Speaker 2: rhetoric about ICE law enforcement before someone was killed. This
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Speaker 2: shooting must serve as a wake up call to the
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Speaker 2: far left that the rhetorica about rhetoric about ICE has consequences.
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Speaker 2: Comparing Ice day in and day out to the Nazi Gestapo,
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Speaker 2: the secret police and slave patrols has consequences. She went
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Speaker 2: on to say, the men and women of ICE are
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Speaker 2: fathers and mothers, sons and daughters. They get up every
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Speaker 2: morning and try to make our communities safer. Like everyone else,
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Speaker 2: we just want to go home to our families at night.
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Speaker 2: The violence and dehumanization of these men and women who
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Speaker 2: are simply enforcing the law must stop. We are praying
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Speaker 2: for the victims and their families, and she went on
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Speaker 2: to say that this was a deliberate act and basically
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Speaker 2: everyone she said, people don't go around etching things into
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Speaker 2: shellcasings and then firing them, firing them into buildings for fun.
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Speaker 2: Nobody does that for fun. Everybody needs to remember these
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Speaker 2: officers live in these communities too. They live there, their
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Speaker 2: families are there. They want to make sure that their
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Speaker 2: kids can go to school and their families can go
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Speaker 2: grocery shopping and go to their jobs and be safe.
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Speaker 2: This is on the heels of multiple like we have
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Speaker 2: legislation that's gone through in California where Gavin Newsom, who
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Speaker 2: wants to be president of the United States, he badly
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Speaker 2: wants it, He wants it so badly. Here is another
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Speaker 2: case where he's done something really dumb with legislation that
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Speaker 2: says that the ICE agents and federal federal police or
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Speaker 2: federal law enforcement in whatever capacity, but especially ICE, those
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Speaker 2: are the ones he was going after, won't be able
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Speaker 2: to wear masks when they're working. The masks served multiple purposes,
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Speaker 2: primarily to protect the identities of the people that we're
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Speaker 2: working there. See, we live in a society now that
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Speaker 2: says if you do something that people on the extreme
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Speaker 2: far left deem to be something that they don't want
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Speaker 2: to see happen, then it's perfectly fine to be docked
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Speaker 2: for everybody to tell them your identity, to take photos
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Speaker 2: of you, post them online, and try to use terror
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Speaker 2: to stop you from doing your job, whatever that job is.
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Speaker 2: Whether it's you know, someone who's on the Supreme Court,
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Speaker 2: whether it's someone who is a judge on a lower court,
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Speaker 2: whether it's someone who just owns a business and said,
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Speaker 2: I don't want to bake a cake at a gay wedding,
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Speaker 2: I don't want to cater a gay wedding, whatever it is,
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Speaker 2: whatever the thing is that they've decided, we don't want
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Speaker 2: to participate in this, or they want to say, well,
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Speaker 2: you've done these things that we've decided are threatening to us.
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Speaker 2: So here you have the governor of California saying they
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Speaker 2: shouldn't have that right to privacy because who do they
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Speaker 2: think they are? Secret police? Comparing them to the Nazi
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Speaker 2: secret police. Now, I believe in my heart what this
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Speaker 2: is really about is trying to get these people to
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Speaker 2: not do their job. But it's also about once again
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Speaker 2: trying to connect the dots of Donald Trump to Hitler.
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Speaker 2: That's what he was trying to do and by saying
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Speaker 2: he's got ice running around as his secret police, as
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Speaker 2: his Gestopo, that that's what he thinks he's successfully doing.
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Speaker 2: But as we now see this rhetoric once again, a fascist,
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Speaker 2: of Nazi, of secret police, of Gestapo, all of these
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Speaker 2: things has now put people's lives in danger, and it's
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Speaker 2: called someone who, best we can say, is deranged. If
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Speaker 2: this is someone who went into this situation and said,
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Speaker 2: I'm going to just start shooting up an ice facility
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Speaker 2: for fun, I'm just gonna shoot it up just for fun,
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Speaker 2: and they're not mentally unstable, that's another problem altogether. That's
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Speaker 2: some serious problems there. We tell ourselves, well, maybe this
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Speaker 2: is someone who imbalanced hearing all of this verbiage and decides,
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Speaker 2: all right, well maybe this is my calling to do this. See,
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Speaker 2: we can't fully understand sometimes what the logic is behind this,
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Speaker 2: because the easiest way to digest it is to say
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Speaker 2: something's wires are crossed. Mentally, there's a sickness there. But
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Speaker 2: what politicians can do, what celebrities can do, is they
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Speaker 2: can stop the rhetoric that's painting the people that they
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Speaker 2: don't like in this light, which justifies these people doing
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Speaker 2: horrible things. They can stop saying things about Charlie Kirk
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Speaker 2: that aren't true, and any idiot with a keyboard can
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Speaker 2: look it up and see that these things that have
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Speaker 2: been accused in the direction of Charlie Kirk weren't true.
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Speaker 2: Were there ever occasions where he misspoke or said something
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Speaker 2: that maybe could have been cleaned up a little bit,
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Speaker 2: I guess, But it doesn't take a lot to go
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Speaker 2: back and look at the lies and just to find
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Speaker 2: the truth behind it. But people don't want that. They
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Speaker 2: want to say, Charlie Kirk is evil, he supports a fascist,
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Speaker 2: he's a fascist, so he deserves to die. And then
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Speaker 2: somebody says, well, he's evil the hate in the anti
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Speaker 2: trands stuff that he says, he's got to die. And
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Speaker 2: then that's what we get. We get text messages that
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Speaker 2: say that very neatly, like very neatly wrapped up text messages.
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Speaker 2: But we've already talked about that a little bit. Almost
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Speaker 2: too neat, isn't it. And then you got someone here,
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Speaker 2: apparently who hears all this verbiage about ice and how
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Speaker 2: bad they are and how they're terrible, and here we
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Speaker 2: go shots fired at an ice facility, no real plan.
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Speaker 2: I guess he just kind of randomly shot in that direction.
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Speaker 2: It's a developing story. We'll know more about it in
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Speaker 2: the coming days. But here we go again, and is
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Speaker 2: the left going to step up? I didn't watch Jimmy
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Speaker 2: Kimmel last night. What did he say about it? Has
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Speaker 2: he blamed it on Republicans? I don't know. Has he
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Speaker 2: learned anything? I know where we are in all of
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Speaker 2: this process. I know that we could be in a
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Speaker 2: place right now where Jimmy Kimmel actually apologized. I didn't
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Speaker 2: really talk about this, but he did acknowledge Erica Kirks
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Speaker 2: saying that she forgave the shooter. Good for Jimmy Kimmel
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Speaker 2: doesn't make everything go away. You still lack the apology.
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Speaker 2: You know that she's willing to forgive someone who shot
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Speaker 2: her husband. She would. I'm certain she would forgive you
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Speaker 2: for lying about who killed him. All yeah, I do
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Speaker 2: is ask that public apology I think would have gone
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Speaker 2: a long way. I don't know. Maybe it wouldn't have.
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Speaker 2: Maybe it would have made you look weak to your supporters.
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Speaker 2: And you know, the two hundred thousand people that watched
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Speaker 2: the show. Remember when millions of people used to watch
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Speaker 2: late night TV. Remember it was in the millions, and
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Speaker 2: now we're in the two hundred thousand people watching a show.
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Speaker 2: It's less without those Sinclair next to our stations. Another
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Speaker 2: quick conversation now on the subject of the Kirks and
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Speaker 2: the memorial service. And I think this is kind of
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Speaker 2: important because I've got friends that are left of center,
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Speaker 2: and I've got friends that, sadly I've learned, are like
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Speaker 2: much more further left than I thought, because you know,
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Speaker 2: they cheered on Charlie Kirk's assassination. And I'm not really
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Speaker 2: even talking about those people I'm talking about, and I'm
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Speaker 2: not just talking about the people left of center that
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Speaker 2: I know and I love, and they said this is
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Speaker 2: a terrible thing and there's no justification for it. Yes,
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Speaker 2: I've talked at great length for the past couple of
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Speaker 2: weeks about how I think we're in two groups now
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Speaker 2: in society. We have two groups. We have the people
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Speaker 2: who thought this was okay and it should be cheered on,
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Speaker 2: and then we have the people who know that this
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Speaker 2: is evil and cheering it on is evil and it's
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Speaker 2: not okay. And I've told you, if you're in one
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Speaker 2: of those if you're in the group that says that
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Speaker 2: it's not okay and your left of center, those people
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Speaker 2: on your far left, I feel like they're your responsibility.
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Speaker 2: People on the right aren't going to reel them in.
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Speaker 2: You're probably not going to reel them in either, because
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Speaker 2: they're set in their ways. They've been living in this
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Speaker 2: world where you can say the most evil, vile, hateful
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Speaker 2: things ever on social media and just get away with it.
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Speaker 2: That's the reality that they've lived in now for like
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Speaker 2: ten years. You can say any vile, horrible thing and
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Speaker 2: there's very little to no accountability for it. Until here recently,
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Speaker 2: since this shooting, when a lot of them have lost
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Speaker 2: their jobs, or almost lost their jobs, lost part of
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Speaker 2: their jobs, whatever the situation is, you've had people that
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Speaker 2: have been in those positions and gone, I don't understand.
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Speaker 2: I thought I could say whatever and get away with it.
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Speaker 2: There's been a comfort there, and there have been some
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Speaker 2: ramifications that have come because of it, and that's the
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Speaker 2: reality of this world that they're starting to kind of
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Speaker 2: wake up to just a little bit. But I want
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Speaker 2: to talk for a minute about not just that. I
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Speaker 2: don't want to just split this into right and left
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Speaker 2: and I don't want to just split this into the
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Speaker 2: people who think it's okay and the people who don't.
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Speaker 2: That's not even what I want to I want to
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Speaker 2: talk about my friends who are specifically Christians. Okay, my
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Speaker 2: Christian friends, my brothers and sisters, and some of them
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Speaker 2: for some reason, have been in that group of people
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Speaker 2: that have celebrated the evil, which is very despicable. But again,
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Speaker 2: not really talking about them. I want to talk about
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Speaker 2: the people, the butt people, the people who have been
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Speaker 2: the you know, you know, it was bad that he
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Speaker 2: got killed, but and then they rattle off the lies,
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Speaker 2: the things that Charlie Kirk never really said that he
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Speaker 2: was accused of saying, or they give the reasons that
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Speaker 2: they think he's really a fascist. But those people justn't
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Speaker 2: want to talk to them for a minute. And any
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Speaker 2: of the people I know that are on the left
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Speaker 2: that took offence or had a problem, especially the religious,
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Speaker 2: the Christians who found the Charlie Kirk memorial to be
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Speaker 2: disturbing because it felt like a revival meeting. I've seen
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Speaker 2: that from a lot of pundit type people, a lot
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Speaker 2: of people who said it just felt creepy and weird
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Speaker 2: because it felt like some kind of a big church
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Speaker 2: revival under a big tent. Okay, the people who said
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Speaker 2: and there's been a lot of you know, the pundits,
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Speaker 2: even some of the talk show hosts have used that verbiage.
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Speaker 2: And then I know some people who've said it and
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Speaker 2: they said it made them uncomfortable or they're just focused
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Speaker 2: on the But did Charlie Kirk say this? Dot dot dot?
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Speaker 2: And it takes just a little research to see that
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Speaker 2: he didn't say it, or that he said it. But
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Speaker 2: you're pulling it out of context, or someone's pulled it
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Speaker 2: out of context for you and put it in a box.
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Speaker 2: The Charlie Kirk memorial was absolutely a revival moment. It was.
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Speaker 2: This past weekend was a weekend where record numbers turned
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Speaker 2: out at a number of churches. There were people that
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Speaker 2: were posting on social media, I haven't been to church
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Speaker 2: in decades, and I'm going to church this weekend, and
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Speaker 2: I think I'm going to start going every week. This
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Speaker 2: was a big moment for Christianity, and there are people
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Speaker 2: that are upset about it because it's conservative Christians. Our purpose,
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Speaker 2: our goal should be about bringing people to Jesus, not
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Speaker 2: bringing them specifically to our political Jesus not looking for
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Speaker 2: Jesus wearing a blue tie or a red tie. Can
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Speaker 2: we not just focus as Christians on the fact that
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Speaker 2: this is good? Our goal is about bringing people to Jesus.
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Speaker 2: This world we're in is temporary. This politics that we're
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Speaker 2: bickering about and fighting about and celebrating assassinations over this
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Speaker 2: is all temporary. And again, I'm talking to my Christian
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Speaker 2: brothers and sisters right now. If this doesn't apply to you,
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Speaker 2: it's all right. You don't even have to finish. You
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Speaker 2: just skip ahead past the ad break. I'm talking to
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Speaker 2: my Christian brothers and sisters. Isn't that the objective? Are
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Speaker 2: we so caught up in red and blue that we
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Speaker 2: can't focus on what we're actually here for as Christians?
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Speaker 1: Our goal?
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Speaker 2: I say it all the time. If you go to
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Speaker 2: church and your church is more focused on a political
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Speaker 2: message than it is about Jesus, you're at the wrong church.
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Speaker 2: If the goal of your like how you're picking what
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Speaker 2: church you go to, is based on your political affiliation,
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Speaker 2: or whether or not the ideals of the church align
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Speaker 2: with your political affiliation, you're not doing it right. And
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Speaker 2: to these people who are uncomfortable with Conservatives finding Jesus
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Speaker 2: at a Charlie Kirk event or because of Charlie Kirk's assassination.
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Speaker 2: This is why people are calling him a martyr. This
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Speaker 2: is why people are calling him a Christian martyr. And
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Speaker 2: I think Charlie Kirk would celebrate his death, trading his
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Speaker 2: life for this many souls to go to Jesus. I
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Speaker 2: believe that. I believe That's why his wife can say,
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Speaker 2: I forgive the shooter. And that's what all these people
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Speaker 2: someone after seeing their place, with thirty eight percent of
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Speaker 2: gen z Or saying a messy home is a turn off.
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Speaker 2: Have you seen the crocs for dogs? Well they're back
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Speaker 2: again and as ridiculous and you know, I guess cute.
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Speaker 2: I mean the dogs are cute running around and I'm
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Speaker 2: watching a video right now of a dog, you know
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Speaker 2: the way, you know the way dogs You put the
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Speaker 2: shoes on them and they do the little trot and
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Speaker 2: they high step around. Yet it's that, but imagine that
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Speaker 2: with Crocs on After an earlier sellout, the pet sized
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Speaker 2: foam clogs have returned, complete with adjustable straps, a grippy bottom,
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Speaker 2: breathable holes. While they're not built for serious walks, they've
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Speaker 2: become a viral hit among pet owners looking to add
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Speaker 2: a little flare to their dog's wardrobe. Be on the
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Speaker 2: lookout for doggie crocs or canine crocs or whatever they're
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Speaker 2: calling them, in different colors, including light blue, dark blue, yellow, orange, green,
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Speaker 2: and pink. If you're so inclined, do we all stink?
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Speaker 2: Ads for whole body deodorants are everywhere telling us to
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Speaker 2: spray our necks, legs, back chest, and our privates, and
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Speaker 2: people are listening. Brands like Loom have made hundreds of
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Speaker 2: millions in sales, So do we all stink more now?
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Speaker 2: All of a sudden? The truth is most of our
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Speaker 2: sweat glands don't even produce odor. The real culprit is
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Speaker 2: bacteria mixing with your sweat in places like armpits. Still,
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Speaker 2: people are convinced that they need deodorant everywhere, and the
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Speaker 2: reason industry insiders say the sales boom is fueled by
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Speaker 2: aggressive advertising as well as delayed effect of the pandemic.
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Speaker 2: Seems we got used to our own smells during the lockdown,
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Speaker 2: and now that we're back together with other people, especially
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Speaker 2: at work. The smells are different now, and the sensitivity
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Speaker 2: to these new smells is causing people to spray up
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Speaker 2: and make sure they're not the stinky person in the room.
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Speaker 2: I think some people are just buying into the idea
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Speaker 2: that maybe they don't have to, you know, bathe. I
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Speaker 2: think that may be part of it. I think you
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Speaker 2: get some people that think, I don't really have to bathe,
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Speaker 2: I don't have to do that. I could just rub
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Speaker 2: some of this stuff on and I'll be just fine.
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Speaker 2: You won't find them in the club at night gen
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Speaker 2: z Ers, though we're still clubbing. They're doing what's called
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Speaker 2: soft clubbing. That is what it's called. It's basically a
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Speaker 2: trend of swapping late night parties for daytime, well dressed focused,
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Speaker 2: wellness focused events, not well dressed wellness focused events like
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Speaker 2: sober DJ sets and coffee shops, cold plunge, speed dating,
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Speaker 2: five K runs, and other gatherings that prioritize connection and
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Speaker 2: mental help. The reason for the shift is a mix
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Speaker 2: of things high cost and a desire for more meaningful
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Speaker 2: interactions and experiences, and practicality. Doing stuff during the day
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Speaker 2: is safer and allows you to have the night to unwind.
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Speaker 2: How popular is this trend? Event Bright the event platform
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Speaker 2: has reported a four hundred and seventy eight percent increase
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Speaker 2: in coffee clubbing event, twenty percent increase in morning dance parties,
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Speaker 2: and eleven five percent increase in attendance at thermal gatherings
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Speaker 2: like cold plunges and sauna raves. So do with that
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Speaker 2: as you please. Michelob Ultra is now the top selling
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Speaker 2: beer in America. Known for low carbs and ad campaigns
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Speaker 2: highlighting active lifestyles, Ultra has quietly taken the place top
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Speaker 2: spot past Modelo Especial to become the nation's favorite. Of course,
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Speaker 2: we know how Modello moved into the top spot thanks
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Speaker 2: to some bad marketing decisions made over at Ennheuser Busch.
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Speaker 2: So all right, that'll do it for this Thursday edition
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