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- 0:00Coming to you live from deep within a radioactive wasteland. We are the survivors
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- 0:16one sixty eight. Libertarian feminist. Boy, how we're in for it,
- 0:23liberty. There's there's an oxymoron if I ever heard one. Oh, okay,
- 0:29let let's allow it. You know, let's just roll with it.
- 0:32We'll just roll with it. We'll roll with it. We'll just just just
- 0:37hold on tongues. Yeah, okay, is there a video, because I'm
- 0:41not seeing there's a videos. Let let me finish the title. Let me
- 0:45finish the title. Guys, Y, libertarian feminist is here to save men
- 0:52from men from the men, save men from the men's rights activists. You
- 0:58know. I recently had an encounter on Twitter I no shock with feminist,
- 1:06and I pointed out that um in in in response to her saying that that
- 1:11that maternal there's there's maternal mortality, which is why some for some reason,
- 1:18step step step step women deserve child support. And I pointed out that look,
- 1:23just just roll with it. It's the logic. Um I pointed out
- 1:27that there is a non zero risk of men dying on the job to pay
- 1:33child support. Yeah, okay, So you compare the amount of maternal deaths
- 1:38per one hundred and you compare the the workplace deaths per year. And every
- 1:48year a man works eighteen to twenty one years, he runs a risk of
- 1:52dying on the job. And over eighteen to twenty one that risk is somewhere
- 1:57between sixty to seventy men will die in the job versus twenty three women will
- 2:01die in pregnancy. Um and I pointed that out, and she said,
- 2:06but who's responsible for those deaths on the job. It's the men in charge.
- 2:12They're not following OSHA. They're not following. And and the stupid,
- 2:17the stupid women who get pregnant, right, Uh, basically when they didn't
- 2:25intend to, right they they they weren't following the the OSHA birth control of
- 2:32birth control. Well, here's like, look at it, look at it
- 2:37this way. Okay, So a man responsible, a man, a dead
- 2:40man, a man who is dead, you know, bleeded out on a
- 2:46factory floor, is more responsible for having died in a workplace accident in this
- 2:53woman's mind than a woman is forgetting herself pregnant. Yeah, like, and
- 2:58I pointed that out. I'm like, so, so the man who's dead
- 3:00on the floor and in the factory, he's responsible somehow. And then she
- 3:06just she just mush, she went to mush. She's just marb though.
- 3:08I'm like, yeah, yeah, you're so, you are so full of
- 3:12shit? Is not responsible? Well okay, but well no, some men
- 3:17are responsible for stuff like that, right, Like if they if they ignore
- 3:23safety protocols, then yes, they're they're responsible for their own misfortune. Um,
- 3:29but okay, but if if women are careless about their birth control,
- 3:37then their response to obesity or smoke or drink during pregnancy, I mean,
- 3:45mortality and pregnancy is incredibly high in the US. It's unusually high for a
- 3:52first world nation, and it's because of obesity. Yeah, it's fairly well
- 3:55understood. Yeah. Yeah, So some of the stuff that women go through
- 4:00is their own choice. Yeah, I mean, there's there's there's a few
- 4:04things. There's a few things like the you know, you remember back in
- 4:08the day when like back in the nineteen eighties, when if you wanted to
- 4:13get married, they made to take a blood test. They made both partners
- 4:16take a blood test. You don't remember that vaguely? I think, yea
- 4:26from that. Yeah, it was to test for certain genetic factors that if
- 4:31if if the parents are genetically incompatible in a certain way, it yeah,
- 4:45it causes the mother's body to have and it causes an immune reaction to the
- 4:54fetus, which then can cause an auto immune reaction endangers the life of the
- 5:01mother something like that, right, yeah, okay, yeah, so that
- 5:06would not be a woman's fault, just like if the workplace is just unsafe
- 5:14because it's unsafe or something completely unforeseen happens, right Like, there's not even
- 5:20even some presumably incidences where supposedly the work workman is at fault. Often they're
- 5:28dealing with pressures. Oh yeah, No. Cell phone towers kill a lot
- 5:33of men, and it's because they're there. They were or it became actually
- 5:40the number one deadliest job was constructing cell phone towers for you know, for
- 5:46a brief period of time until the standards caught up, until well not just
- 5:50the standards caught up, but the actual number of cell phone towers was you
- 5:56know, sufficient to meet demand, um, and they weren't building at such
- 6:02an incredible pace. The number of times that the workmen is responsible is very
- 6:11small, and this is not wasn't her argument. Her argument was that because
- 6:17the yeah, I just the ones responsible response, because it was men who
- 6:24were responsible. The men who were dying obviously were responsible for their own deaths.
- 6:30And I'm like looking at this, I'm like, okay, I would
- 6:32like you. I would invite you to tell that to you know, some
- 6:35teamsters or some union guys. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 6:39no, no, dissolve the union. You know, you shouldn't have any
- 6:42unions because you see, because your boss is a man, you are all
- 6:46responsible for your working conditions. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, it's
- 6:53men. Men are actually their own union. That's what patriarchy is. But
- 6:58they're they're like a guild per se um where women are excluded. And then
- 7:04and then on top of that, what does what does maternal deaths? What
- 7:12does maternal deaths have to do with child support? Because no dead woman's collecting
- 7:19child support because women take a risk in pregnancy to give. Therefore, and
- 7:30a woman, a woman takes a risk when she gets into her car to
- 7:34drive, so she should be able to collect car payments from somebody. Okay,
- 7:44okay, all right. So the argument is that women should have the
- 7:48choice to have a child because they run a risk, a nonfinite risk through
- 7:59pregnancy. My argument was men run a nonfinite risk through paying child support.
- 8:05Does that not also mean they should have the choice of whether or not to
- 8:07assume the responsibilities? Oh yeah, yeah, okay, oh god, that
- 8:15was the argument. And then and then in order to pursue her line of
- 8:18thinking, she had to argue that since the bosses are men, the bosses
- 8:22create the working conditions. Obviously the dead workers, the dead male workers,
- 8:28are responsible for their own deaths. Yeah, that's the Joe Rogan argument.
- 8:35You know, when when yeah, I'm prison rape because the men being raped
- 8:41in prison are being raped by other men, then I guess that just cancels
- 8:45it out and it's okay, and it's men's fault. Well, okay,
- 8:48that he just said it. It's not a good look. It's not going
- 8:52to convince me that, you know, because if you basically say that men
- 8:58are the primary or the majority of victims of rape, but the people raping
- 9:03them or other men, it's not really making men look great. Well,
- 9:07first of all, nobody's trying to I don't agree with him. But I
- 9:13mean, like I I don't agree with him being kind of like, okay,
- 9:18so let's not even talk about that, right, or that it's not
- 9:22a men's rights issue simply because the people who are responsible for the issue are
- 9:30men. I don't agree with that, but I do agree with you know,
- 9:33the fact that it actually it's very difficult to make. But it's difficult
- 9:41to make any men's rights issue, right, Yeah, The victims, the
- 9:46male victims of any men's rights issue look good because it's always going to be
- 9:50framed as a product of patriarchy. Well until we challenge that hire that lie
- 9:56kills our society, ergo victim, perpetrator equivalents, right yeah, well,
- 10:03and men are the victims of themselves. Think about it, patriarchy. Let
- 10:07me see if I can get this analogy correct so people understand what I'm talking
- 10:11about. So, most societies seem to be very much invested in making sure
- 10:16that women are protected and provided for for obvious evolutionary reasons. That is a
- 10:20successful society. Yes, society in which women are provided for and protected for
- 10:26is going to outcompete any other society, period. So most societies sort of
- 10:31arrange themselves around this principle in our society. The group of people who is
- 10:39directing the motive of society, so directing the where the excess resources should go,
- 10:46that would be feminist women. They are the ones with the hands on
- 10:50the reins. Yeah, right now, they have an ideology that completely denied
- 11:00and ignores the actual costs of the things that they're at they are demanding.
- 11:03Well, not just the costs of the things that they're demanding, but denies
- 11:09that those demands exist in the first place. Yeah, and they have my
- 11:15power to make those demands. Yeah, they somehow get what they want,
- 11:18but they just don't have the power to make demands in this horrible patriarchy constructive
- 11:22for the benefit of men at the expensive women. But what I'm getting at
- 11:26is you have people who are absolutely, absolutely, one hundred percent delusional about
- 11:31the costs, and they are the ones behind the wheel of society, and
- 11:35they have no idea the costs of what it is they're asking for, so
- 11:43they just keep or demanding. They just keep demanding more and more and more
- 11:48until there's nothing left to give. No, No, you can always just
- 11:52keep borrowing, right, and oh, you only have to service your debt.
- 11:58You don't have to pay it down. Mhm okay. And this is
- 12:03like terrifying to watch, and they live in a complete delusion because the argument
- 12:09that I was making was that if you are going to demand that men pay
- 12:15child support without any choice, without any ability to separate consent to sex from
- 12:20consent to parenthood, even if they don't consent to sex, even if they
- 12:24don't consent to sex, they still content to parenthood, then you are going
- 12:28to end up with raped men paying paying child support to the rapists. And
- 12:35this individual went back and forth, back and forth, back and forth,
- 12:37and then she said, well, you are you okay with men abandoning their
- 12:41children. I said, I have not made any solution to this. I
- 12:46am minrely pointing out the cost of it. And this is descriptive, not
- 12:50prescriptive. This is descriptive. If you give women the right to unilaterally decide
- 12:58that men are going to pay for children, then you are going to end
- 13:03up with raped men paying for children. And it's it's not a small number
- 13:09of friends. You look at the intimate partner and Sexual Vine, the National
- 13:13Intimate Partner's Sexual Violence Survey, something like one point two men are made to
- 13:18penetrate or raped by a someone's ya development in a year eighty percent by women.
- 13:26That's one million men. With a five percent chance that any instance of
- 13:31unprotected sex is going to result in babies, that's fifty thousand. I mean
- 13:35that's the upper end. Yeah. And the reproductive coercion thing where it's like
- 13:41you you are trying to get pregnant or make your partner pregnant against their wishes.
- 13:50Um, that's much more common. Um with that they found right,
- 13:56that female protomen of reproductive coercion was well, because everybody has a jire uncle,
- 14:03uncle, uncle ed, who's aunt Fanny just you know, slipped him
- 14:07a roofy and fucked him and suddenly they're married, you know. Yeah,
- 14:09yeah, and everybody has that joke in their family. And also, uh,
- 14:16the just the fact that you can go off the pill and not tell
- 14:22your partner or get your IUD removed. And this is one thing that I
- 14:26wish women would learn. This is a hard and fast rule. If you
- 14:30betray your partner like just you know, oh, ips, I forgot the
- 14:33pill for five months. If you tell your partner like that, you'll never
- 14:39get that trust back ever, So don't do it. Yeah, And he
- 14:43may regardless, he may decide to stay with you because it's cheaper to keep
- 14:48her at a certain point. Right. Yeah, but you know, if
- 14:50you if you got one consensual child and four children that she had when you
- 14:58didn't want her to because she intentionally got pregnant without you know, your consent,
- 15:05and yeah, because she could just go off the pill and then she
- 15:09could say, oh, it was just antibiotics I was taking it. I've
- 15:13seen this happen. Oh yeah, no, it's my friend's sister did this.
- 15:20She she and her husband had one baby, and then she wanted another
- 15:26baby, and he said, no, I don't have the money for that.
- 15:31We're like barely making it as it is. And and then she just
- 15:37quietly went off the pill. And then she was like, oos, it
- 15:41must have been the antibiotics that I was taking from my bladder infection. Right.
- 15:48They've actually shown now, right that antibiotics don't generally interfere with the function
- 15:52of birth control. Right. But it took him it was child three before
- 15:58he began to suspect. And then he said, then he said, I'm
- 16:07gonna go have a vasectomy, and she said if he did, she'd divorce
- 16:10him, right, And I basically at that point, you don't have a
- 16:15relationship. Well, but then he's three kids in right, and she's never
- 16:21worked a day in their marriage, so he's gonna be alimony child suppoured out
- 16:26the wazoo, and he's just like, fuck, I'm fucked, right,
- 16:33and then he goes to the doctor to see, you know, like can
- 16:37I can I do this? And they're like, no, you need your
- 16:41wife's consent to get a vasectomy, right, which is actually technically illegal,
- 16:45but it's common practice among physicians. Okay, Well, here's my story.
- 16:51I'm not going to give any specifics, but I know a woman who,
- 16:55uh, you know, the first child was supposedly an accident. The child
- 17:00she just unilaterally decide and the men that she married explicitly said I don't want
- 17:06children. It was my hoop. All of it was my hop make it
- 17:11happen on purpose, Yeah, all of it. But we should name these
- 17:17we should name these pregnancies. Jan six pregnancies. Okay, but this is
- 17:22what happened. She completely destroyed her relationship with this man and he ended up
- 17:30cheating on her. Yeah, and at that point, what do you expect?
- 17:36Yeah, Like, honestly, if you are betraying the trust of your
- 17:38partner, to that level, you can honestly like, if you're a woman
- 17:42doing this, you have utterly betrayed your partner. At that point, you
- 17:48don't have a relationship, so they're not cheating at all. Okay, And
- 17:52honestly, if a guy is like, you know what, I'm going to
- 17:55fuck another woman, at least she'll be on birth control or um I can
- 17:59control, so I don't continue to have sex with the rapist, you know,
- 18:03because honestly, I think at that point you can really qualify if if
- 18:06you are if you are literally baiting someone into having sex that they wouldn't have
- 18:11if they knew that you wanted it to be reproductive, I think you probably
- 18:15that's yeah, that's that's basically stealthing. Yes, and it's ugly both ways.
- 18:22I mean, even if I believe that men do it or that that's
- 18:26stupid, you got him told, they're talking more on to do that if
- 18:30you're a man, but whatever, there have been men that have done that.
- 18:33There was a guy in Nova Scotia who poked holes in the condoms.
- 18:37You know, his relationship was getting rocky um and he was worried that they
- 18:42were going to break up, and he thought, well, if we have
- 18:45a baby, we'll have to stay together. So he poked holes in the
- 18:48condoms and she got pregnant. She went and she had an abortion, broke
- 18:52up with him anyway, and uh, and then she started dating some other
- 19:00guy and he heard about it, and he contacted her and said, don't
- 19:04use the condoms in the nightstand. M yeah, so he was he was
- 19:10actually being nice. An idiot, yeah, I know, an idiot,
- 19:15but he was like, I don't want her to use the condoms in the
- 19:18nightstand because I poked it. Then he got hit. Yeah, and that's
- 19:22the only reason she knew that it was intentional, that it wasn't an accident.
- 19:26And then he was convicted of kay, yeah, all right, first
- 19:30degree sexual assault. All right, So ladies, you're a sexual assaulter,
- 19:37and if a man goes and has sex with another woman who isn't a rapist,
- 19:41it's on you, not him. Yeah, okay, period. And
- 19:45the thing is that what end ended up happening subsequently is her life just got
- 19:48worse and worse and worse since she attracted more assholes just like herself and more
- 19:53like the original guy not my favorite person in the world, but the next
- 20:00ones were even worse. Oh, sure, honestly, but she set the
- 20:06tone. Yeah, and no, women don't realize you are setting the tone.
- 20:10You are deeply betraying somebody by doing this away. Oh no, and
- 20:15this guy, this guy, Okay, this guy was convicted of aggravated sexual
- 20:22assault because the aggravation was the physical injury of having to get an abortion.
- 20:30So you had you had just not just the non consensual sex right and no
- 20:34informed consent, but you also had the aggravating factor of the injury of having
- 20:41to get pregnancy and getting an abortion. But the judge in his ruling went
- 20:48out of his way, doing all kinds of weird preticalizing of logic and the
- 20:55law right to explain how this could not pass apply to women who who trick
- 21:04their partners, their male partners, into impregnating them, because men don't risk
- 21:11injury, right, they don't risk the injury of pregnancy. And in this
- 21:18one case, this one situation, financial injury is does not count as injury,
- 21:27okay. And so basically he wrote his judgment in order that men could
- 21:37not bring similar charges against women who intentionally get pregnant against their consent through trickery.
- 21:45So women in Canada can poke holes and condoms all they want, So
- 21:52can we start the video on any more video? But you know, you
- 21:56know, libertarian feminist is going to tell us how all men's issues or you
- 22:00know, yeah, presumably maybe maybe she'll throw us a curveball. Okay,
- 22:06I watched about as much of it as I could stand without throwing something at
- 22:10the wall. Um video, We're not going to do the whole thing,
- 22:15obviously, thirty freaking minutes, thirty freaking minutes, thirty minutes thirty of thirty.
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- 23:59I think at this point we are one of the We may be the
- 24:03last bastion of Yeah, maybe don't blame men for everything. I mean,
- 24:07we've done that for seventy years. It seems to have gotten us in a
- 24:11progressively worse situation. Maybe at some point we got to stop and say,
- 24:15hey, what about women taking responsibility? But of course, you know,
- 24:22patriarchy theory or patriarchy conjecture denies the possibility that men when women have any responsibility
- 24:30over society whatsoever, against essentially what it does. It's just like, yeah,
- 24:33women have no responsibility. You have no power and no responsibility, and
- 24:41where's that got us here? And nothing good seems to be happening from that
- 24:47from saying that women have absolutely no responsibility over society. I mean, a
- 24:52lot of very functional societies came out of saying, well, actually, maybe
- 24:56women do have some responsibility over society and they should use that responsibility wisely that
- 25:02that seems to have worked well in the past, but apparently now we can't
- 25:06do that at all. Well anyway, so just to give just to give
- 25:08everybody like an inkling of what we're talking about. Um, apparently right now,
- 25:15every child born in the US today will inherit more than ninety five thousand
- 25:22dollars in federal debt. Yeah, yeah, well that's that's what is.
- 25:30Yeah, you start your life today in debt owing ninety five thousand dollars.
- 25:41And the funny thing is, no, none of them have had any say
- 25:44in the spending of that. I guess that's sort of the thing, Like
- 25:48we've accepted this idea that people can be responsible for debt they never had a
- 25:53hand in creative Yeah, but but that's like, there's no there's no sense
- 26:00of the future anymore. And honestly, why the idea of a future comes
- 26:07from the idea that what you have now you can have you can work and
- 26:14use your own actions and the consequences of those actions to improve the future for
- 26:18yourself. That is a masculine way of thinking. And it's all we can't
- 26:22think about it. We can't have that anymore. No, masculine virtues are
- 26:26bad. Well, that's like, that's just some kind of bullshit. Pull
- 26:30yourself by going why do we have to pay for things? Why does stuff
- 26:37cost money? Why do you why do we just have to collect nuts?
- 26:42Why do we just print more money? Yeah, we can print more.
- 26:48Debt is borrowing on future labor at some point, unless you're going to default
- 26:53on the debt, and you're never gonna be like, can you imagine our
- 26:56society defaulting on the debt? Like going bankrupt? Like going bankrupt? Do
- 27:03you realize at that point everything the West would be able to consume is only
- 27:08what it can produce. That's it. And also and also you have to
- 27:15sell off every asset that is not one hundred percent necessary to you. Right,
- 27:23Like, if you go into personal bankruptcy, you're only allowed to own
- 27:27a car that's worth like four thousand dollars. You're you're allowed to own a
- 27:33house. If there's no equity in it, you're allowed to continue to own
- 27:37that house. But if there's equity in it, you have to sell it
- 27:38and start renting again, right And yeah, no, And it's not like
- 27:45it's not like you don't have to pay any of your dat It's just that
- 27:49you negotiate with your creditors as to how much they'll get and how you get
- 27:56to live for the next seven to ten years, you know, without any
- 28:02credit whatsoever, unless you prove yourself responsible, all right. So it's not
- 28:08where you want your country to be, no, and anyway, So we're
- 28:14about the responsibility. We're about women being expected to take responsibility because a lot
- 28:19of that debt is coming from the class of people that doesn't pay net taxes.
- 28:26Okay, and that's not men, all right, So feed the Badger
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- 28:33our message are very very unpopular message that men are not to blame and women
- 28:37need to take some responsibility because God forbid women be recognized as moral agents.
- 28:42And incidentally, feminists have no fucking clue what that means. That does not
- 28:47mean that you have infinite power. It means that there are consequences to your
- 28:51actions that are generally recognized. Because you can have infinite power. But if
- 28:56you're an avoid affecting absolutely nothing, you you don't you don't have agency.
- 29:02Oh it's the effects of your actions that give you a sense of agency.
- 29:07Yeah, all right, all right, sense of power. So all right,
- 29:11feed the Badger dot com slash support. Let's do it. All right.
- 29:12So before I start the video, I just wanted to tell you guys
- 29:15a little bit about the video. So this is entitled A Feminists Take on
- 29:21the Men's Rights Movement by Hannah Cox. And Hannah Cox I don't know much
- 29:26about her except that she claims to be a libertarian feminist. Now, in
- 29:30my mind, there's no such thing that is not even a unicorn that just
- 29:34doesn't exist. But um I I decided to look in the comments, and
- 29:41I say this as somebody, by the way, who is libertarian minded,
- 29:45So like it's not like I don't know what I'm talking about. And I
- 29:48think anybody who understands libertarianism would understand that that shouldn't make sense, but she's
- 29:52making it makes sense. And I think that libertarians better fucking pay attention U.
- 30:00I looked through the comments to see if anybody I knew was in here,
- 30:03and there are some people that are saying, you know, what men's
- 30:07rights are human rights. These are very like straightforward things. But there was
- 30:12one thing that I saw that was kind of interesting, or a couple of
- 30:17things. X Man. You know, you guys know X Man. He
- 30:21comes to the conferences that we have sometimes and he's pretty active, you know,
- 30:27he works with NCFM and stuff, and he's commented on it, and
- 30:33of course he got shit from the comments. You know. Then there was
- 30:37what what was that? I just said? Hereah yeah, and then someone
- 30:42else this this one probably will Yeah, here we go. Somebody named Carlos
- 30:48vun Seska said are you able to have that conversation with Hannah Wallen? And
- 30:56he then follows up and says, if you want, you can find the
- 30:59article written in response to this video by Hannah Wallen on the website, and
- 31:04he tells her he says a voice from men, and then Hannah Cox replies
- 31:08and says no clue who that is or why I would need to. I
- 31:11have a full summary of my thoughts on the issues here. So I'm just
- 31:15letting you know she was made aware of Hannah. She didn't even look at
- 31:21it, she says, she doesn't Hannah, but she seeks on the subject.
- 31:26What. Oh, she turned her nose up at Hannah. Yeah,
- 31:30like you, lady. You could be utterly schooled to the point of being
- 31:37atomized by Hannah. I'm guessing. I mean, I could be completely wrong.
- 31:40No, I think so. I think so. Hannah's pretty. She's
- 31:45got two qualities in abundance, uh, persistence and autism. Yeah. Yeah,
- 31:52and but she didn't and well and and then she's got a wealth of
- 31:59actual know an experience. Okay, but I'm just gonna say, it's really
- 32:02easy to sell this idea that men are responsible and women have absolutely nothing to
- 32:10take responsibility for. It is really easy to sell that concept because it just
- 32:16slots so nicely into our instincts. Yeah, whoa, it's it's distinct we
- 32:22we we you were you wrote the article inflatable fim ages ago years ago.
- 32:30Yeah, and then I kind of uh kicked up on that, right and
- 32:38kind of uh provided an evolutionary expectation or evolutionary psychology explanation of it with the
- 32:52tyranny of female hypo agency. M hmm, right, I mean like this
- 32:57this is not new stuff. No, I've been working on this for like
- 33:01twenty years. And what inflatable fem means is that there is this tendency to
- 33:09regard women as having no actual presence in terms of the consequences of their actions
- 33:17and just append those actions to men and inflated to the environment or some kind
- 33:24of outs. Yeah, so we don't we have their difficulty They're never situating,
- 33:31They're always reacting. Yeah, they're never acting, They're always reacting.
- 33:35We have this difficulty situating the consequences of women's actions with their choices. We
- 33:44have this real blind spot. And the reason why we have that real blind
- 33:47spot is because we have these instincts to provide and protect for women. So
- 33:52we can't like, if a woman does something stupid, we can't say,
- 33:59okay, well, you're living those consequences of your choices. You're living out
- 34:02the consequences. We have this impulse to go in and save her from herself
- 34:07constantly. Yeah, and um, and that's like minutes, and then the
- 34:15excuses begin. Oh, well she had a bad childhood. Oh she had
- 34:17some as if she yeah, I know, I know, you know,
- 34:22but we make excuses. Oh well, you know she really she was just
- 34:27like I've just and I just recently read an article on women abandoning babies,
- 34:35women killing drowning their babies in toilets, women suffocating their babies and throwing them
- 34:39in trash cans. You know, and this this article managed to completely avoid
- 34:47any sense that these women are responsible from murdering their children. Yea, like
- 34:53completely avoid it. Well, yeah, but these are living babies at this
- 35:00point, they were alive before. It's like, I'm like reading this,
- 35:07I'm like, no, no, no, no, Maybe we need some
- 35:12condemnation here. Maybe a woman needs to realize that she's gonna be put on
- 35:16an ice flow if she strangles her child and shoves it in a trash can.
- 35:21Boe bye, boe bye, good bye. You don't like whoa so
- 35:28long, we don't want to see you again. Like, maybe women need
- 35:30to know this, and they need to know things like if you fucking have
- 35:35a child against the will of your partner, you are raping him. You
- 35:42know. Maybe, man, women need to know this stuff so that those
- 35:46women don't who might otherwise say, you know what, maybe strangling my baby
- 35:52and shoving him in a trash compactor is a bad thing. We'll think twice
- 35:57before doing it. Yeah, yeah, Or and those ones who continue to
- 36:00do it can be put on an ice float because we don't want them reproducing.
- 36:06Yeah, god damn. Like, and this is really hard for people
- 36:10to understand, Like this is something that just it just bounces off of people's
- 36:15skulls. Then maybe women shouldn't be allowed to do stuff like this. Yeah,
- 36:23all right, let's keep going. So let's do that. Let's start
- 36:27the video forty five minutes later. Dark, Yeah, let's start starting the
- 36:30video. So just a heads up, guys, um, I have sped
- 36:37up the video a little bit to protect us from like whatever copyright bullshit,
- 36:42and I have captions turned on so you guys can read it in case,
- 36:45you know, we're talking over her or something like that. And I've also
- 36:49color corrected it so it's gonna look a little bit more purple. All right,
- 36:52So let's get started. Let's hear what Hannah Cox has to say our
- 36:55defense. In our defense, the phrase libertarian feminist is very innately. It's
- 37:01mind breaking. It's it is so wrong it can't even be considered stupid obvious.
- 37:12It's absolutely like anyway, we'll we'll get started. Um let's let's at
- 37:16least watch the first thirty seconds. She has the nerve to call this show
- 37:24based, by the way, the fucking nerve back to based. This month,
- 37:31we're going to talk about the men's rights movement, and specifically the potential
- 37:36bias against men in our legal system. As you probably know, the libertarian
- 37:38movement is pretty mail heavy. That's starting to change in recent years, but
- 37:42attract at a large percentage of my audience is also made up of men,
- 37:44and one thing those men have frequently asked you to touch on is the men's
- 37:46rights movement. All right, I'm just pausing it there because that's about thirty
- 37:50seconds in. Why would you ask so here? Just like okay, wait,
- 37:55first red flag, first red flag. The liberty Terran movement. She's
- 38:02calling it a movement. I'll just say population is mostly male, and she
- 38:07thinks that's a problem to her. All right, n't say it, but
- 38:12she thinks it's a problem. Do you know why do you know why libertarianism
- 38:16is mostly male? Yes? Because women are dependent, and they evolved to
- 38:22be dependent, and therefore they evolved to have someone providing for them. And
- 38:29so complete free for all in society in terms of you protect yourself and you
- 38:36provide for yourself is not feasible for women. And that is understandable because women
- 38:44are vulnerable, more vulnerable, and they have the babies, so and that
- 38:50means that they need that And that's perfectly okay to accept as like a condition
- 38:59of womanhood. Um, but libertarian women should be focused on making their men
- 39:08as free as possible, Okay. In this case. One of the problems
- 39:15is that feminism possets that a society that a merit, that is, that
- 39:20society itself needs to be fundamentally changed to benefit women. And why that is
- 39:27incompatible, That is incompatible with well, obviously the reason why it exists is
- 39:32feminism is exploiting the very instinct that it says it denies exists. Yeah,
- 39:37like, like society has always been organized around principal two principal concepts. Women
- 39:45need to be provided for and protected and men are the people whose job it
- 39:53is to do that. Yeah. Um, but but regardless, I mean,
- 40:00it's it's antithetical to libertarianism, because right there, it's it's a form
- 40:06of force. It's a moral force, and it's a moral force compelling men's
- 40:09action. So it's it's incompatible to simultaneously buy into a moral force that compels
- 40:16the state or that essentially is about compelling the state to compel men to do
- 40:22things and libertarianism. I mean, I may not be a libertarian, but
- 40:25I understand that. Yeah, yeah, well I agree, And but I
- 40:31just want to point one thing out, all right before we continue. Look
- 40:36at the expression on her face when she says the men's rights movement. Oh
- 40:39yeah, yeah, you're holding back a bit of vomit there, lady.
- 40:45It looks like you're going to be really really fair to the men's rights movement,
- 40:51either either disgusted or just she looks like she's about to burst out laughing,
- 40:54oh men rights, Jesus, okay, all right, all right,
- 41:00or it's just a really bad still and she's like holding it a fart.
- 41:04I just want to say one last thing is that I think that you could
- 41:07have a libertarian woman if she has a contract with her man um you know,
- 41:14that states that like she will do her part, he will do his
- 41:17part. Like I don't see any reason why libertarians couldn't get married and share
- 41:22in their uh you know, of course, of course, of course,
- 41:27of course. It's like when I was when I was in Woodstock, New
- 41:30York, staying staying with those guys at the at this old like nine eighteen
- 41:37fifties farmhouse, right, yeah, and uh, you know for the Libertarian
- 41:43conference back in New York in twenty twelve, I think it was um,
- 41:49but they had a they were all libertarians, but they had agreed is like
- 41:57basically a boarding house with six men in it and me, and they had
- 42:01agreed that, um, they were going to basically live commune style, right,
- 42:12that this was this was the contract was you know, everybody pays what
- 42:16they can and uh and you know, like if you can't pay this month,
- 42:22because but everybody tries. And it's like if you're in a community of
- 42:27six people, it's really easy to spot cheaters and free riders and kick them
- 42:34out, right. It's it's very easy to detect those people and get get
- 42:40them, put them on an ice float. Right. But so it's it
- 42:46was the arrangement that they liked, that they had all consensually agreed to and
- 42:53come to that decision mutually, right. So they were like, no,
- 43:00that's totally compatible with the libertarian mindset. It's a contract. We all entered
- 43:07into it freely, and if you violate the contract out you go, yeah,
- 43:14all right, let's continue. Okay. But frankly, I've recoiled from
- 43:19doing it for many years, and for good reason, because there are elements
- 43:22of this movement that are frankly gross, misogynistic and violent. But god,
- 43:27what a surprise. I know, what a surprise? Like, I guess
- 43:31i'm presation. I just I saw what was about to come out of her
- 43:35mouth, just from her expression. I haven't watched this before. I haven't
- 43:39watched this before. It's prescient, prescient. But anyway, what is I'm
- 43:45I am A, I am a I'm an oracle? Oracle? Yes,
- 43:50no, you you are all knowing? Oh no, I could just see
- 43:52that. I could just see that about to come out of her mouth.
- 43:54What we can't write? Does she have? We all like she's judging us?
- 44:00She's judging us? Yeah, no, like what about the sun?
- 44:02Of course, her nose up against Hannah. Oh, I don't have to
- 44:07talk to her. Not a person who's been involved in this movement. A
- 44:13woman has been involved in this movement for how many years? Fifteen years?
- 44:15Now? Yeah? You do? You because because because she was on Reddit
- 44:22and saw and Andrew tape video, so she has it all figured out,
- 44:27all figured out. I know exactly what's going on, and I need to
- 44:30be in charge of it, not you guys. How long? How long
- 44:32have I been in this And the worst thing, the most violent thing that
- 44:37I've ever been accused of, was when Satchie Cool sat me down and demanded
- 44:43to you know, whether I still thought she was a cunt, because apparently
- 44:47I called her a cunt, like I remember accurately as well. The most
- 44:52violent thing I've ever been accused of is being a terrorist. So maybe she's
- 44:57gotten there. Yeah, all right, let's keep going. I don't think
- 45:01I am, but yeah, no, well, I mean, yeah,
- 45:04you don't get to decide that, Allison. They do. Yeah, you
- 45:07haven't committed any acts of violence. Neither. I haven't committed any acts of
- 45:12violence. But apparently just simply saying we have to care about men when they're
- 45:15victims of things is an act of violence to feminists of a certain stripe.
- 45:21There you go. Depends on how you define violence these days. It's uh
- 45:25it's words or it's not words. It's also silence. So but if it's
- 45:30the right people even shooting someone today, Yeah, No, actual violence is
- 45:35fine depending on who's doing it. The actual violence is speech as long as
- 45:39you're ideologically correct, yes, exactly. And you're killing a baby. Now
- 45:45you're cooking with gas. Yeah, now we're getting it. We're getting it.
- 45:50All right, let's keep when you're going to take away you're stive Allison.
- 45:53Oh um, actually before we well, I was going to just do
- 45:59some shout outs. No no, no, go ahead, go ahead,
- 46:00I'll get my thank you's ready, Yeah, get your get your your your
- 46:06your feedback stuff ready. All right, Okay, So I want to thank
- 46:13uh Michael D for twenty five or fifty dollars. Thank you, Michael,
- 46:16Thank you. Na and health postion addict is always good for uh, Like
- 46:23last month, I think he put in like a thousand bucks, So thank
- 46:27you, Health posh an addict. He's put in one hundred dollars. Thank
- 46:30you. And I just want to say, like, please, please,
- 46:37please, if you are able to just take a moment to go to feed
- 46:39the Badger dot com slash support. I know sometimes it's just tearing yourself away
- 46:44from our wonderful commentary. Once again, that's feed the Badger dot com slash
- 46:49support. I know this is sort of a depressing thing to look at,
- 46:52but the truth, like, that's why nobody wants to look at it.
- 46:54Nobody wants to look at because it makes you feel helpless, Like makes you
- 46:59feel feel like what can you do? But the truth is the only thing
- 47:02that's going to save us. Looking at the truth and being honest to ourselves
- 47:08about what is going on, because it's not working anymore. Look at everything
- 47:15that's happening around us, look at all the institutions that are failing us.
- 47:19It's not working anymore. The only thing that will work is being honest.
- 47:22And the first thing we need to be honest about is the very instincts that
- 47:27make society function, which is the relationship between men and women and how we
- 47:31structure it. We got to be honest with ourselves, and nobody wants to
- 47:36be because it's uncomfortable. Women don't want to face the fact of how much
- 47:40they do need men materially, and men don't want to face how much they
- 47:45need women psychologically. Yep, we are vulnerable to each other, and nobody
- 47:52wants to face that because it's hard. But if we don't face it,
- 47:57we're not going to have a future. Well, you live a lie long
- 48:00enough and everything just starts to fall apart, right, And that's what we're
- 48:05seeing right now. And even if living this lie has been what's brought us
- 48:09to this point, even more importantly, men and women being honest with each
- 48:14other is what's going to get us out of this problem. Yeah, there's
- 48:20no other way. And this is where we talk about that, and we're
- 48:23honest about that, and we're honest about holding women to account, and we're
- 48:28honest about looking at the places where men do not have the power to change
- 48:32things, where women need to step up, yep. And we don't shy
- 48:38away from that. And I personally don't think that that's going to cause women
- 48:43to spontaneously combust into a million fragments of starlight if they're just said, okay,
- 48:49well, these are the powers that you have as women. Men are
- 48:51psychologically vulnerable to women. Just as the more I see, the more that
- 48:58this becomes apparent to me, men's identities are fundamentally rooted in whether or not
- 49:05they are doing something to provide and protect for those people who are more vulnerable
- 49:09in society. And that's a good thing. That's something that's very admirable about
- 49:15men. And I don't think it's going to very pro social men believe and
- 49:21feel that they exist in order to protect and provide for others. Very pro
- 49:25social and maybe vulnerable men and maybe vulnerable women. Women tend to be seen
- 49:30as more vulnerable than men in general. Oh and children especially, and children,
- 49:35you know. And I'm saying that as an is and also I'm saying
- 49:39that because if we don't recognize what they've recognized, this truth, the men
- 49:44end up being more and more exploited for it, and the not. Eventually,
- 49:49eventually they just refuse to be exploited anymore and they become compul they eventually
- 49:53they just go. Eventually, this is what I'm seeing. Even among the
- 49:58men who are aware that this is a form of exploitation. It's less that
- 50:04they end up being they overtly quit or strike, and more that they just
- 50:12descend into and I don't even want to say apathy, but depression because they
- 50:20don't understand how to make their actions, make their actions good, you know.
- 50:29It's it's they're they're giving no framework if if every action can be interpreted
- 50:34as bad. Yeah, if you hold the door, you're bad. If
- 50:37you don't hold the door, you're bad. Right if you if you try
- 50:44to help somebody, you're bad. If you don't try to help somebody,
- 50:47you're bad. Um Yeah, yeah, it's let me, let me,
- 50:52let me use an anecdote, like, I'm learning a lot from my dogs.
- 50:57Keep you and I can be like a real taskmaster with him. And
- 51:04what I've noticed is that he will shut down or he will engage in things
- 51:08that he thinks are are good if he does not know if he's doing the
- 51:14right thing, and he needs to know. He needs that feedback, or
- 51:21he's he's no longer capable of continuing. He's no longer capable of understanding what
- 51:25the right thing to do is in the circumstances. Yeah, and everybody's like
- 51:30that. Everybody's like, but women, all the feedback that they get is
- 51:37like it is positive. Yeah, it's either positive or neutral, you know,
- 51:42or sympathetic. Yeah, But he's he does not he needs to know.
- 51:49And dogs actually have sort of very like they in a lot of ways.
- 51:52They have a similar emotional makeup to us. They want to please,
- 51:55you know, and they just need to know if they're doing the right thing.
- 52:00Men need to know if they're doing the right thing or they emotionally shut
- 52:02down. Why wouldn't that be the case. The only people who don't emotionally
- 52:07shut down and I think they're doing the wrong thing are so shit pads?
- 52:10Is that what we want to be selecting for? So this is it's it's
- 52:15like women need to recognize how much of an psychological effect they have on men.
- 52:22I mean, dogs are slightly gynocentric as far as I can tell.
- 52:27Um, male dog prefer women, you know, and they listen to women
- 52:32more. Female dogs prefer men. Really, Okay, well maybe it's that
- 52:39that way. Then I thought they didn't prefer either. But regardless, they're
- 52:43kind of they're kind of they're a little less choosy. But yeah, if
- 52:50if the human race is gynocentric, which is naturally, which means that women
- 52:54are the ones that we want to protect and provide for, and I think
- 52:59that that's almost inescapable conclusion at this point, does it not behoove women to
- 53:05recognize men's vulnerabilities to them understand that, Yeah, well that would be what
- 53:15that would be actually acknowledging that they have power and most of their power derives
- 53:22from the illusion that they don't have any it really, does most of the
- 53:24power derive from that illusion or does most of it derive from the instinct in
- 53:29the first place? I mean a lot of a lot of the I think
- 53:34what you might consider the unfair power derives from the illusion that men don't care.
- 53:43But then again, you know, the other thing is, and this
- 53:45is something that I've gotten into arguments with feminists as well when I assert this
- 53:50stuff. There's one particular feminist who always comes at me and, oh,
- 53:52don't you think that's insulting to men? I don't think what it is true?
- 53:58It does it matter if it's insulting, if it's true, Like,
- 54:01are we just going to flatter ourselves to death? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 54:06that's what we're doing. Yeah, we literally we're flattering ourselves to death.
- 54:10You can't say, you can't say that Lizzo Lizzo isn't the pinnacle of
- 54:16female beauty, because that would she would find that insulting. All right,
- 54:23So I've gotten a little bit of out of bounds. But anyway, Yeah,
- 54:30the upshot of this is this is a difficult task that we've set for
- 54:37ourselves. No, it is difficult. It goes against all of the junk
- 54:44food of instinct. Yes, right, it's like we are like, no,
- 54:50you can't just will yourself. Then you actually have to exercise, You
- 54:54actually have to restrict your calories. You know you got and simply you don't.
- 55:01You don't eat the kinds of foods that are unhealthy and make you fat
- 55:07and sluggish. Right, You don't eat those even though they taste really good.
- 55:14Right, Yeah, And it's because because you evolved to like those foods
- 55:20based on an environment where they were rare, where they were ours, not
- 55:24where For most of our revolutionary history, it would never have been a problem
- 55:30to say, let's protect and provide women. Yeah, not in the slightest
- 55:35because it was always very difficult. Or let's eat sugar, or let's eat
- 55:39fat. Yeah, oh no, fat is good for you. Yes,
- 55:44fat is good for you. Okay, all right, let me know it
- 55:49is it's it's it's the it's it's not even really the sugar. It's the
- 55:52seed oils that are the enemy. Seed oil. Yes, all right,
- 55:59let me finish my thought. Okay, this is a very difficult thing to
- 56:04keep alive. And we have got to this point because you, you who
- 56:09are listening to us, have made sure to give us the resources to keep
- 56:15doing this. Now, a lot of people I've I've read comments where people
- 56:17are like, I listened for a while, but then it got depressing.
- 56:21Well, what do you think it feels like to do it every day?
- 56:24Yeah? Yeah, it is a freaking hard slog and there's no way you
- 56:30can do it with a full time job to keep this kind of momentum going.
- 56:37So if you don't want to see this stop, you have got to
- 56:42go to feed the Badger dot com slash support and make sure that we hit
- 56:47our goal for the month. Okay, I mean me and Brian, we
- 56:52have We're both not the healthiest people physically. I'm I'm probably healthier, so
- 56:59I don't want to pull away from Brian's sales, but there's no way like
- 57:04either of us could do this plus a full time job. It is extremely
- 57:09stressful to look at the stuff day by day by day and continue to bring
- 57:15bring it to people, not just bring it to people, but try to
- 57:19find some hope in the despair. So we really do rely on you to
- 57:23make sure that we are able to keep doing this, and this needs to
- 57:27get done. It doesn't matter what other people do say about identifying enemies,
- 57:31about fearmongering or whatever. This is the thing that we need to fix or
- 57:37we're fixing nothing nothing, all right, all right, let's please please please
- 57:45go to feed the Badger dot com slash support and make sure we can continue
- 57:49to do this because we won't be able to without you. Yeah, all
- 57:52right, all right, So we're gonna play another thirty seconds that are frankly
- 57:57gross, misogynistic and violent. But ever recent taken the time to dig into
- 58:00the issues, and I've come away thinking that there are two sides to the
- 58:02men's rights movement, one valid, one not valid, and I think the
- 58:06issues under the valid side of this movement deserve our attention. So today one
- 58:09of the biggest problems, one of the biggest problems today is this idea that
- 58:15women can stand in judgment of men, and you are standing in judgment of
- 58:22men. Yeah. No, She's like, Okay, here are the valid
- 58:24things, and here are the not valid things. And I am the arbiter
- 58:29of what is valid and not valid. Yes, And of course, if
- 58:34if you go into a space where there are men and they're in pain and
- 58:37they're suffering, and they've been through a bunch of things. They've been falsely
- 58:42accused of things, They've gone to prison, they've had a horrible divorce,
- 58:45they lost access to their kids, they're paying child support unjustly. Whatever it
- 58:50is, whatever it is, even if it's something as mild as some girl
- 58:53rejected them publicly, loudly and painfully. She doesn't think that they're allowed to
- 58:59go and invent about this because if they if they vent about that and she
- 59:02sees it, then it means that they are the problem. And all of
- 59:06the legitimate stuff, it's all like they don't actually care about that. So
- 59:10yeah, that's what that's what she I think she's going to say. I
- 59:15watched part of this. I couldn't make it through the whole thing because I
- 59:16was getting so furious because I think that feminists like this are far more dangerous
- 59:22than like Amona Alathawi or some like nut job, you know, red haired
- 59:28screaming woman that's pissing and shitting in public. Those people don't scare me because
- 59:31you can look at them and see how obviously full of shit they are,
- 59:37ye crazy, But like these that are like, oh, no, I
- 59:39care about you guys, I'm looking out for you guys. I just think
- 59:42that. You know, it's like that meme where there's like it was an
- 59:45old Gamergate meme, like invoking the old thing, but there's like this you
- 59:49know, uh hipster like progressive dude and he's wearing the mask of a normal
- 59:53person and he's like, you know, I'm I'm all down for like changing
- 59:57the this uh, this whole political landscape. But don't you think that there's
- 1:00:00a problem with all these misogynists and racists and Nazis. Shouldn't we do something
- 1:00:05about those guys? First? This is exactly that, like, oh my
- 1:00:08god, this is so infuriating, so infuriating. All right, anybody,
- 1:00:14why why do you make us watch this? Yeah, well, because this
- 1:00:17is good for our shop, and also I think people well no, but
- 1:00:22also I think people need to be aware of this is going on, because
- 1:00:25you know, I was talking to Vernon VI for Vernon, who's an MRA,
- 1:00:29and his big thing is he's a libertarian too. He's he's actually like
- 1:00:31an objectivist, right, and um, you know I told him, I
- 1:00:36said, look, this woman's calling yourself a libertarian and if you haven't been
- 1:00:39paying attention, the libertarians are being infiltrated by not just like feminists basically,
- 1:00:45but also just general like nazi or kami leftist too, and they're using libertarianism
- 1:00:51to get in and I'm like, you need to call their ship out because
- 1:00:53they will use this against you. I mean, it's already been happening anyways.
- 1:00:58This is why the libertarians are fucking losers because they don't know to call
- 1:01:00that shit out and they're just going to keep losing because they want to appeal.
- 1:01:06And so when women come along and they're like, oh, this place
- 1:01:07is really nice, but how come there's own women here? And then you're
- 1:01:10like, well, what do we need to do and make women? Well,
- 1:01:13we could start by eliminating the misogyny and all of the all of the
- 1:01:16sexism and stuff. You know, yes, same with the atheists, right.
- 1:01:21And when when I was at with you know, sitting next to Amanda
- 1:01:27Billy Rock right and you know, doing a Q and A session at the
- 1:01:30New York State Libertarian Party's National Convention right Annual Convention. Um. So I'm
- 1:01:40sitting there and somebody asked, you know, how do we get more women
- 1:01:44into the libertarian movement? And I was just like, you shouldn't, Yeah,
- 1:01:50you shouldn't. And you shouldn't care, because here's the reality, and
- 1:01:55the reality is most women don't psychle logically, they're not psychologically compatible with libertarianism.
- 1:02:04It's just how it is. And because of that, if you if
- 1:02:09you know a woman who's divorced and she's collecting child support from her husband,
- 1:02:20from her ex um, she and it's and it's enforced, right, it's
- 1:02:27enforced by a court order, it's enforced by the family maintenance enforcement agency in
- 1:02:34the in their state or whatever. And she's collecting that because he's being forced
- 1:02:40to do that, right, then she's not a libertarian. She is not,
- 1:02:46of course, no, of course not right, because she she entered
- 1:02:50into a contract. The contract ended for her right, but it didn't end
- 1:02:59for him. And so you know, and there's reasons that I'm not faulting
- 1:03:05women for this necessarily. There's just reasons why they're not adapted to the same
- 1:03:14degree as as men are towards freedom. It's just they they will always advertize
- 1:03:22security and safety and availability of resources over freedom. They always will. If
- 1:03:31a woman wants to be a libertarian, her mentality has to be about holding
- 1:03:37herself to a standard, not going into a community judging it based on how
- 1:03:42well it suits her. Yeah, that's it. That's one of the essential
- 1:03:47components of libertarianism. So if you want women in libertarianism, you're not going
- 1:03:57to get You're not going to get women in libertarianism. And you also hold
- 1:04:00them to that standard, Okay, that this is about a personal set of
- 1:04:04ethics. And if you don't adhere to this personal set of ethics, you
- 1:04:09are not a woman in libertarianism. Um, you are a something other going
- 1:04:18into libertarianism to turn it into something that benefits you. Authoritarianism, I mean,
- 1:04:25that's all it is at the end of the day. Feminism is authoritarianism.
- 1:04:29It doesn't work. It's a justification authoritarian. Yeah, it is exactly.
- 1:04:33There's no there is no other version. It always comes down to that.
- 1:04:38Always, there is no other version. You're either going to use the
- 1:04:41state or you're going to use other men. But it's going to be authoritarian
- 1:04:44at the end of the day. My overall point is if you are a
- 1:04:46woman going into these the libertarianism and in particular men's rights movement like libertarianism isn't
- 1:04:54as explicit about that, which is why libertarians get sucked in, which is
- 1:04:58why every other group gets sucked in except us, and even some of us
- 1:05:02get sucked in. Oh yeah, it does not fucking matter how many women
- 1:05:08you have, if those women are destructive, yes, okay, because all
- 1:05:14you're going to end up with is a smoking crater. Do you think that
- 1:05:18Rome became Rome because it wanted it was like, well, we got to
- 1:05:24appeal to me. No, it constructed an identity around women, denying this
- 1:05:30kind of tribalist violence, literally saying no, we don't want this tribalist violence.
- 1:05:35We don't want to be able to incite this tribalist violence based on our
- 1:05:41sexuality. We are going to hold ourselves to a standard, and around that
- 1:05:45a civilization was born because women held themselves to a standard. No matter what
- 1:05:55the if we are going to get through this, it's going to because we
- 1:05:58have a nucleus of women who hold themselves to a standard. Doesn't fucking matter
- 1:06:02what other women do, because all they're gonna do is destroy whatever whatever they
- 1:06:08touch. Okay, So if you use it up or use it up,
- 1:06:15if you have a group of women who are providing the nucleus of an effective
- 1:06:19system, all right, that can protect and provide for the women and the
- 1:06:25men within it, all right, And are encouraging the men to cooperate together
- 1:06:29to protect and provide for everyone, and the women are also doing what they
- 1:06:33can do to protect and provide for the men psychologically. If you have a
- 1:06:38nucleus like that, basically what you have is a freaking legion in the middle
- 1:06:44of fucking chaos, because every other woman is tearing down their men, tearing
- 1:06:48down what they're constructing. Who do you think's gonna win? Yeah, who
- 1:06:55do you think's gonna win? It doesn't. And the thing is that the
- 1:06:58women who don't pull themselves to a standard are constructing their own downfall, They
- 1:07:04are constructing their own go ahead. It's like, it's like what Warre and
- 1:07:09Farrell has always said. You know, if one side wins, both sides
- 1:07:12lose in terms of the gender war, right, So well, I mean,
- 1:07:19like like I said, if if you have even a small group of
- 1:07:23women, even if it's a small group of women, you want the right
- 1:07:29women and for obvious reasons. Yeah, and if they aren't the right if
- 1:07:33they aren't the right women, then they're tearing shit apart. Yeah. No,
- 1:07:38And you have you have to acknowledge the fact that you know, and
- 1:07:42you have to do it without disappointment or anger. You have to accept that
- 1:07:47men are what they are and women are what they are, and generally speaking,
- 1:07:53those things are not going to change. They're just not um. So
- 1:07:58you have to actually construct a system that places limits on both to avoid their
- 1:08:08own types of excesses. The ironically, Karen, the excesses that men are
- 1:08:15prone to is too much protecting and providing well and getting into wars over protecting
- 1:08:23and providing for women. Well, let me just let me just lay this
- 1:08:26out. Let me just lay this out. Okay. Our civilization is a
- 1:08:31direct result of men questioning that form of protection and provision, which we don't
- 1:08:39understand now to the degree that they did then. Which is this idea that
- 1:08:43a man should die to protect a woman's chastity. Okay, that's what That's
- 1:08:48what this whole say mind women was about. One group of men had to
- 1:08:53die over this fight over these women and their chastity, okay, And that
- 1:08:59is what it challenged, and that is the if you go into the Middle
- 1:09:02East, you can still see that kind of tribalist belief around men dying for
- 1:09:06women's chastity and that if you do not protect your women's chastity, you are
- 1:09:13not a man, and you're not a tribe, you might as well be
- 1:09:15facing execution. But that's what Rome challenged, and that's what created the concept
- 1:09:20of the nation state tribes working together to build something okay. And it required
- 1:09:28those women, either mythologically or actually physically, to step away from the expectation
- 1:09:35that men protect their chastity, which meant they had to step away from that
- 1:09:41feeling of security. You understand what I'm saying, That feeling like they can
- 1:09:45compel men to protect them through their chastity. They had to disavow that on
- 1:09:49a psychological level and then hold themselves to the standard of I'm not going to
- 1:09:57be fought over by men. Like Lucretia, the one, the woman who
- 1:10:01was raped and basically started the republic. She held to that held herself to
- 1:10:08that standard. She was raped and then she killed herself because she did not
- 1:10:13want that strife into the republic or into the into the nation. She held
- 1:10:19herself to that standard that she would not be fought over. And this is
- 1:10:25this is this is this is this is that holding yourself to that standard and
- 1:10:30disavowing the expectation of a particular type of protection, and that nucleus formed our
- 1:10:38fucking civilization. So don't tell me that this isn't important or possible, because
- 1:10:45we exist because of that. We exist at the entire concept of the US
- 1:10:51exists because women said, do not fight over us. We do not want
- 1:10:58that protection. We do not want to see you die. We would rather
- 1:11:02die than to see you guys die for this stupidity them. I'm beam un
- 1:11:11fucking nation state born is born. The concept of it, the concept of
- 1:11:15tribes working together on an equal level rather than a hierarchical level, to build
- 1:11:20something together. Okay, this is possible. This is definitely possible. This
- 1:11:28is something that can happen and has happened, and we benefit from it having
- 1:11:31happened in history, even Christianity, the whole idea of Mother Mary sacrificing her
- 1:11:41son for the benefit of everyone. That is a woman holding herself to a
- 1:11:46standard. Okay, it happens, and when it happens, it's powerful,
- 1:11:53and you don't need women who don't hold themselves to a standard. They can
- 1:11:56fuck off and live in their goddamn wasteland and eventually be conquered by the society
- 1:12:02that doesn't do that. Okay, sorry, I don't All right, let's
- 1:12:14let's watch some more between the two sides of the movement first, and then
- 1:12:16we're going to get down to business on the issues. So what is the
- 1:12:19men's rights movement? I'm going to read from one of the large advocacy groups
- 1:12:23within the sector, called the Men's Group, and they define it like this.
- 1:12:26Activists argue that society has become biased and sexist against men. They also
- 1:12:30argue that men faced discrimination from the media, government and Supreme Court for being
- 1:12:32male. Men's rights groups fight against custody laws that favor mothers over father's,
- 1:12:38violence against men, false rape allegations, disproportionate male prison sentencing, and conscription
- 1:12:43for instance. Whatever, I'm just pausing for the banana there, Uh not,
- 1:12:47okay, she's just reading description. Not much to say too to that,
- 1:12:50Yeah, no, um, okay. Her females overlooked over a role
- 1:12:56in the office the company is deemed as ascrimatory. However, when a male
- 1:13:00colleague loses position to a female worker, it is deemed as normal. These
- 1:13:02are some of the inequalities men's rights groups try to address. Those are their
- 1:13:05words. Now, on its face, I'd say there's a lot in that
- 1:13:09statement we're going to agree about, all right, so on its face.
- 1:13:13So she's going to be disagreeing on some of this stuff, so brace your
- 1:13:18spines. Consider and that means I advocate for women's rights on the basis of
- 1:13:23the equality of the sexes. True, okay, so on the base of
- 1:13:27equality of sexes. Real quick, if you believe in equality, you're not
- 1:13:30a libertarian. It's impossible, full stop. Period. There's no such thing
- 1:13:35as equality. Nobody is equal. There's only justice. That's not the same.
- 1:13:41There is only justice and fairness. But that's not equality. When they
- 1:13:45use the E word yet to call them out immediately, dude, No,
- 1:13:49men and women are not equal, and there is no like like you know
- 1:13:54how they come in and they go, well, no, I'm not talking
- 1:13:56about equality of outcome. I'm talking about quality of opportunity. It's the same.
- 1:13:59Do you know how I know it's the same because whether or not equality
- 1:14:01of opportunity is successful is measured by the outcome. That means that you can
- 1:14:05say, well, we started with equality equality of opportunity, but look the
- 1:14:09outcomes are different, so obviously it doesn't work, so we have to do
- 1:14:13more equality. No stop, lies, It doesn't exist justice or nothing.
- 1:14:19That's all there is, just be fair, stop it with the equality bullshit
- 1:14:25anyway, For feminists belief that all people should have equal rights, equal opportunity,
- 1:14:29and equal command of their own destiny. But just like the men's rights
- 1:14:30movement has two sides to it, one vile and one valid, I'd argue,
- 1:14:33so does the feminist movement. There is a side to the feminist movement
- 1:14:36that truly does hate men, and that season is inferior. Do you know
- 1:14:40what that side is? All of any feminists who believes that society was ever
- 1:14:44constructed for the benefit of men at the expense of women. Yeah, it's
- 1:14:46baked into the fucking definition. There's no two sides. I don't know.
- 1:14:50If you're a feminist who doesn't believe that, you're not vile like and I
- 1:14:55don't even want to use that vin you're also not a feminist. Yeah you're
- 1:14:59not a feminist, then yeah, okay, they're you're a feminist who does
- 1:15:05not And there is no goddamn way that society is constructed for the benefit of
- 1:15:11men at the expense of women. This is a fucking like. This is
- 1:15:14the most tarted goddamn lie. A society like that would implode and destroy itself
- 1:15:18instantly. Yeah, like, it just would not work evolutionarily. Societies work
- 1:15:27because they take resources from men and give them to the people who have children,
- 1:15:30period. And yeah, I know that there are people who are like,
- 1:15:34oh my god, gnocentrism, Well that isn't is not an out.
- 1:15:39I wish we lived in a perfect equality where men had no psychological vulnerabilities to
- 1:15:45women and women had no material vulnerabilities to men. I'm sure it would be
- 1:15:49lovely. Or maybe we can just care about each other and recognize each other's
- 1:15:55vulnerabilities and do what we can to ameliorate them on this side and of wishing
- 1:16:00that we didn't have them at all. You know, what was the what
- 1:16:04is the? What is the Like? There's an African saying that they describe
- 1:16:10hell, and Hell is a group of people sitting in a circle, and
- 1:16:15there's a pot of stew in the middle, and everybody has a spoon that's
- 1:16:19long enough to get food from the pot, but so long that they can't
- 1:16:23actually get it's too long to get into their mouths, so they just keep
- 1:16:27pulling out stew from the pot and dropping it trying to get it to their
- 1:16:30mouths because they just can't. That's that the spoon just won't. It's too
- 1:16:35too big, too long. They can't figure out a way to get it
- 1:16:40into their mouth. And the hell is just a bunch of people in a
- 1:16:44circle with stew splashed everywhere, starving to death because they cannot figure out how
- 1:16:51to get that too long spoon into their mouth. And Heaven is exactly the
- 1:16:57same. It's exactly the same area, a bunch of people in a circle
- 1:17:02with a spoon too long. They can get it into the pot, but
- 1:17:05once they try to get it into their mouth, they just can't do it
- 1:17:09because it's too long. But the differences in Heaven they're feeding each other.
- 1:17:15There you go. Really, all right, let's keep going. I do
- 1:17:20have some super chats, a super chat and a super chow, but they're
- 1:17:25a little long, and I want to get through some of this video today,
- 1:17:27so okay, and I have to go like in half an hour.
- 1:17:30All right. Well, well, we'll read the super chats and super chows
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- 1:19:30more of this suffering, and we don't want people like this in charge because
- 1:19:32they will they will destroy this movement. Okay, but here's and this is
- 1:19:39the thing. This is the big demarcation. Are you somebody? Are you
- 1:19:45a woman who is approaching this in terms of how you need to be benefited
- 1:19:51as a woman, or you are you a man who's saying, well,
- 1:19:55we need to appeal to women who look at things in terms of how they
- 1:19:59are benefited. Or are you a woman who's approaching this and saying what can
- 1:20:04I do? What can I sacrifice, what can I be held to to
- 1:20:11take responsibility? And are you a man who's saying this is the type of
- 1:20:15woman that I want in my life and I want to have heard? That
- 1:20:18is the big demarcation. That is the line which side you are on?
- 1:20:25Okay, And you will get nowhere in solving the issues that we see today
- 1:20:31by continuing to indulge this notion that the only people that need to be cared
- 1:20:36about are women, and that women do not need to be held to any
- 1:20:41standard of responsibility and instead everything should revolve around their benefit. We cannot continue
- 1:20:46with a child for you, a formulation of societies and communities and countries,
- 1:20:54which is they should be solely and exclusively judged by their benefit to women.
- 1:20:59I mean, it's very it's very much our instinct to do so. But
- 1:21:02if we want to move forward, we got to pull back from that instinct
- 1:21:10and also bring men into the equation. All right, all right, let's
- 1:21:14keep going. I disavowed those people, just as I disavowed the components of
- 1:21:17the men's rights movement who feel similarly towards women, And let's address that side
- 1:21:20of their movement briefly. There are increasingly vocal groups of men in society who
- 1:21:25simply hate women. They hate the games feminism has made. They can't.
- 1:21:28They aren't vocal groups of do you understand men do not hate women. There
- 1:21:36may be like a hermit on a fucking island in the Mediterranean who's like,
- 1:21:41I've never seen a woman. Men do not hate women. Okay, lady,
- 1:21:45they don't. What they hate it's not having the ability to be attractive
- 1:21:50to women. Well, and that means that's obviously the opposite of hating women.
- 1:21:58Yes, I include yes, well never mine. Well, she's gonna
- 1:22:00mention Mick Tao and in cells because this is how this is how high IQ,
- 1:22:05how big brain she is. Godd would you please leave in smuzzle alone?
- 1:22:11Yeah? I know they are men. They are young men who are
- 1:22:14really hurting. And yeah, they're lashing out. You know what happens when
- 1:22:17a when an animal is abused, it lashes out. It's the same difference,
- 1:22:24all right, Uh at Karen, did you want to say something?
- 1:22:27Or no? No playing field. And they seem to diminish the rights of
- 1:22:32women so that they can feel better about their peni existence. These elements include
- 1:22:35groups like wow, their beauty existence? What what rights do they want to
- 1:22:41take away. Lady, you're gonna tell us, You're gonna tell us what
- 1:22:44rights you mean, the right to vote? That's not a fucking right.
- 1:22:47That's like the most edgy thing I've ever heard, and it's not even a
- 1:22:50right. Yeah, in cells components of the alt right and what nationalists,
- 1:22:58trads who want to force their social conservatism on others, the pickup artist community
- 1:23:00and that men going their own way movement. What okay? So, so
- 1:23:04miktoo hate women because they don't want to be around them, but you want
- 1:23:08them to be around them, because that's like not wanting to be around him
- 1:23:12is hating them and then makes him dangerous to women somehow. Yeah, and
- 1:23:16then she wants Magtow to be around women because because then they don't hate them.
- 1:23:25I guess she wants to be around them but not hate them. But
- 1:23:29no, but but she she loves Micktow and that's why she wants to be
- 1:23:38around them. I mean, this is the thing, like if if you've
- 1:23:41got a neighbor who's just like, no, I just want to be left
- 1:23:45alone, right, he just minds his own business and does his own thing,
- 1:23:49and he's quiet, and he doesn't really you know, and whatever he
- 1:23:57does, he does in his own house, and he doesn't have a dog
- 1:24:00the barks, and he doesn't like annoy you, and he's not constantly like
- 1:24:03complaining to you about how you don't break your leaves or whatever, um,
- 1:24:11you know, but he just he just would really like to just be left
- 1:24:15alone. Um. Yeah, when a bunch of men choose to like to
- 1:24:18be left alone, they're obviously forming a movement. Well no, but it's
- 1:24:24it's like, okay, so what you're saying is this man is dangerous and
- 1:24:32he hates me. Therefore he needs to spend time with me and be nice
- 1:24:40to me. And it's like, no, just leave him be, Just
- 1:24:45just fucking leave him be. They can't Why why don't you let like you
- 1:24:48know how like Alison just said, why don't why don't you leave the in
- 1:24:51cells alone? Why don't you leave the magtowe alone? That's literally what they
- 1:24:55want, that's the big thing they're advocating for. You can't stand, you
- 1:25:00can't stand the idea that there are men that don't want anything to do with
- 1:25:03you. That's what's bothering you. Yeah, and again she's taking the attitude,
- 1:25:11which is the exact attity I got to reemphasize this over and over and
- 1:25:14over again. We are not going to get through this unless we find that
- 1:25:17nucleus of women that will take responsibility for society and men and children. Okay,
- 1:25:25it may be that this is the end because we don't find that that
- 1:25:29women don't take responsibility, women don't start looking not in terms of how society
- 1:25:33benefits them, but how they can benefit society, how they can at the
- 1:25:39very least provide men a sense of that what they do is important, that
- 1:25:44what they do is beneficial. Simply me telling my freaking dog, Hey,
- 1:25:48you're doing great. I know this is a stressful situation. But you're not
- 1:25:53barking at the trucks, you're not barking at the kids. You're walking nicely
- 1:25:58beside me, and I appreciate that. That's what I want you to do.
- 1:26:00That women just willing to do that to men, Hey, it's quat
- 1:26:04that you're still doing the work that needs to be done, the work that
- 1:26:09requires a high risk tolerance, that the work that requires the kind of instincts
- 1:26:15that men bring to the table. It's wonderful that you're continuing to do this.
- 1:26:18They're wonderful that you still have some commitment to making sure the lights are
- 1:26:23still on. I really hate the fact that you won't be able to actually
- 1:26:26get a decent wife out of the job. But at the very least you
- 1:26:30got the approval and the appreciation of one forty year or forty five year old
- 1:26:34woman out there, you know, Like I'm in the last I'm the last
- 1:26:40ditch, you know, I'm in the breach. I'm the only one left.
- 1:26:43But I'm doing it. I'm trying, you know what I mean.
- 1:26:45Yeah, that's what we need. We need women willing to do that.
- 1:26:49It doesn't take much to encourage men. You don't have to give what you
- 1:26:55own, right, No, yeah, I'm not giving like no one.
- 1:26:59And funny, we just need women doing that. And that is like I
- 1:27:03see it as the same thing as the say, mind women, we appreciate
- 1:27:06you because we love you, not because you're killing yourself for our chastity,
- 1:27:14you know. And I appreciate I appreciate men just because they're men. Like
- 1:27:18I don't even want to look at like the Ukraine War because it's horrible.
- 1:27:23I see these guys dead, and I'm like, Jesus fucking Christ, what
- 1:27:27a waste? A waste, you know, And suicides. What a waste
- 1:27:33of men. I see it as not just like a loss of resources.
- 1:27:40It's like, these are people, These are souls that no longer exist.
- 1:27:43They no longer get to contribute their particular masculine way of being into the world.
- 1:27:48And I appreciate men on that level. And that's why I'm saying,
- 1:27:54you know, it's great that you're doing these things. You know, I
- 1:27:58don't feel like men should feel like they're obligated to to continue to provide for
- 1:28:01a society that spits on them. But I'm amazed that they do. I
- 1:28:06astounded that they do. I'm astounded that there are men get out there who
- 1:28:11still get up in the morning and unclog people's toilets for God's sake, and
- 1:28:16that that that we still have a society despite all of the shit that's happening,
- 1:28:23despite how much men have being shit on for the past seventy years,
- 1:28:28that we still have a society and that's what we need. I know,
- 1:28:30it's like really arrogant for me to say, but we need more women who
- 1:28:34are willing to say that. And I'm not in the context of, oh,
- 1:28:40yeah, we're glad that you're continuing to provide us, but willing to
- 1:28:44wait in verbally smack down the women who are constantly shitting on men and say
- 1:28:49no, that's not right, that is not right. Yep, we appreciate
- 1:28:55you, and these women are wrong. This woman is wrong and she's not
- 1:29:00coming with the kind of mentality that women that men deserve. Now, you
- 1:29:04guys, deserve this from women. You deserve women who are going to stand
- 1:29:09up and smack these women down verbally in minecraft and say no, you're wrong.
- 1:29:14Okay. You deserve that. You deserve women to stand up for you
- 1:29:18and to call out this fucking psychological torture, this expectation that you get to
- 1:29:26beat your dog and have your dog do what you want. Yeah, it
- 1:29:31has to still love you too, It has to still love you too.
- 1:29:35I'm sorry, lady. Have you seen what men have to deal with psychologically
- 1:29:39from feminist lately? Like? Seriously, the fact that the in cells are
- 1:29:45just often their forms, grumbling to each other and make taw are just enjoying
- 1:29:49their best life without you, that's minor. You go and clean up all
- 1:29:56of the shit, like I don't even have to talk about all men,
- 1:29:59clean up the meat. His attitude towards Johnny Depp let's just let's make this.
- 1:30:02Let's make this really concrete and specific, like we don't have to talk
- 1:30:06about the media's attitude towarrows. All men, when the media fucking shuts up
- 1:30:11about Johnny Depp and apologizes to him for making him out to be the villain
- 1:30:15when he was the victim, then you'll have a point, lady. Not
- 1:30:20much you've won, but at least you'll have something to stand on. Yeah,
- 1:30:26yeah, you know, much less, all men, But just just
- 1:30:29let's just let's just do one man. Yeah, okay, and the demonization
- 1:30:33of one man. Okay, all yeah, let's keep going. I think
- 1:30:36this is a really good video that we can get a lot of shows out
- 1:30:40of just saying so all right, let's keep going. Some people within these
- 1:30:45groups will go so far as to say that rape should be legal, They
- 1:30:46downplay domestic violence, they harassment online, and they actually as look are you
- 1:30:50fucking talking about now? You're out my fucking lying. So there was that
- 1:30:59product thought experiment took it totally seriously. I think it's a joke to bring
- 1:31:05that up. How how long ago was that? Hasn't he like converted to
- 1:31:10orthodox Christianity since then? Like, well, you see she gots to keep
- 1:31:14that in her pocket so that she can pull it out whenever and say they
- 1:31:17said yes, no. But but his whole point was if you actually made
- 1:31:24a rape of women legal in someone's personal private property, their apartment or a
- 1:31:34man's apartment or house or whatever, then women would actually then women would actually
- 1:31:43start thinking about their own safety. Okay, if you made it essentially the
- 1:31:49line of consent when you enter a man's private above residence, yeah, residence,
- 1:31:56then women would start to take their own protection seriously. So it's a
- 1:32:02thought experiment to reduce rape, not to increase it. Yes, so it's
- 1:32:09actually saying, what if this actually reduced the number of women who are raped?
- 1:32:13And it's just a thought experiment. And also Ruche seems sort of fragile
- 1:32:18in some ways. You don't notice that anybody else. She doesn't know,
- 1:32:23she doesn't care though he's a representative of the men's movement. Now, like
- 1:32:26whatever he said ever in history that has to be used against everybody involved,
- 1:32:31and like and we all have to constantly repudiate and disavow, constantly, constantly.
- 1:32:39That's why, by the way, I just want to say this,
- 1:32:41that's why I didn't want to do that with Andrew tape. Because no matter
- 1:32:44what some other guy that has any connection to the manisphere ever says, I
- 1:32:47have to come forward and say we don't like this guy. By the way,
- 1:32:50it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter what we say. They will use
- 1:32:56it against us no matter what. And you know what, they're wrong for
- 1:32:59that. They are absolutely wrong for that. So let's let's leave these men
- 1:33:03alone. A bitch and I entertain is not he's. It doesn't matter,
- 1:33:12That's what I'm saying, Karen, it doesn't matter what he is. We
- 1:33:15all have to like assent, like, no matter what somebody says, if
- 1:33:18it's Jordan Peterson who's not an MRA, if it's you know, Ander tain
- 1:33:23it doesn't matter. They get used against us, and then people on our
- 1:33:27side say we have to repudiate this person, we have to disavow this person.
- 1:33:30If we don't do it, then like you know, they're gonna not
- 1:33:33like us again, Well, they don't like us anyway. It doesn't matter
- 1:33:36what we do. It's a waste of energy. Yeah, you know,
- 1:33:41he's right, there's this is trans This is this is guilt by transitive property.
- 1:33:45Andrew tain Is rouge B was not part of the men's move like the
- 1:33:48men's rights movement. Andre Taine isn't part of the men's rights movement. And
- 1:33:53yet, so why do we have to repudiate these people, Why do we
- 1:33:56even have to answer for it? Well, because because we agreed with them
- 1:34:00on some things, in which case all vegans love Hitler. Yeah, and
- 1:34:08anybody who likes universal state funded healthcare. I'm a Stotler. Feminists don't have
- 1:34:14to answer for me because they always create the camp of radicals. Oh,
- 1:34:17those are the right, That's not me, that's those guys over there.
- 1:34:19We believe basically the same things. But I'm not pissing in the street screaming
- 1:34:25patriarchy. I'm over here in front of a camera wearing a nice clothes and
- 1:34:29I'm basically saying patriarchy, but I'm doing it nice. And this woman doesn't
- 1:34:33have to answer for Mary Costs. Yeah, rape apologia towards male victims of
- 1:34:39rape like her minimizing and this is something that ripples throughout the entire survivor industry.
- 1:34:49What Mary Costs did to male victims of rape, it's un fucking believable.
- 1:34:57She made them invisible in thisatistics. Lady, don't get any any fucking
- 1:35:02shit about Rucheville's stupid thought experiment when we are dealing with a fallout of merry
- 1:35:09costs saying, oh, well, a man who's forced to have sex by
- 1:35:14a woman shouldn't be considered a rape victim. We should call that surprise sex.
- 1:35:20He didn't know he really wanted. Yeah, yeah, it's fucking kidding
- 1:35:25me. That is despicable, beyond despicable. At the time that it was
- 1:35:30happening, he just he actually wanted it. He just didn't realize that he
- 1:35:38wanted it. Yeah. There is no men's rights activists that even raises to
- 1:35:45that level. There's no men's rights activists who would argue that men women can't
- 1:35:51be raped, period, lady, period. And now Mary costs feminist and
- 1:35:57goods standing a a contributor probably to reign to the CDC all over the place.
- 1:36:05She is considered to be an authority, and not just on rape of
- 1:36:10women, a rape of men. Well, sorry, she doesn't consider that
- 1:36:13to be rape. She's the one who gets to decide whether or not a
- 1:36:15man is raped. Are you fucking cute? There is nothing on our side
- 1:36:20of the aisle that could compare to that shit. Yep. Yeah, And
- 1:36:26that is pure and utter shit that we have to deal with every fucking day
- 1:36:31when we try to advocate for male victims of sexual assault Mary cosson her bullshit,
- 1:36:36her feminist bullshit, her superhead or on normative bullshit. Well, of
- 1:36:44course, transition can't be raped unless they've transitioned. Well, and you know,
- 1:36:48a woman can't rape a man because men are heterosexual. Only a man
- 1:36:56can rape a man. Yeah, oh right, yep. Well I mean
- 1:37:00actually in some countries, like I think in the UK, rape is still
- 1:37:05defined basically, like the crime of rape is still defined as something the man
- 1:37:10does to a woman, or at least a man does so like that,
- 1:37:15like it can only be committed by a penis. Yeah, only a penis
- 1:37:19can rape. So um yeah, And anyway, look, I'm gonna try
- 1:37:26and get through some more. But this woman is driving me up the wall.
- 1:37:28Like I've heard this, Yeah, we've heard this multiple times before.
- 1:37:33Feminisms. Feminists do not have to answer to their high powered like we have
- 1:37:42like maybe a pen laser, you know, pen laser, and we've accidentally
- 1:37:46shined it in somebody's eyes and she's like, oh my god, I gotta
- 1:37:50get the death laser and beam it like you know what I mean. It's
- 1:37:56like, yeah, this death laser and she turns it allies an entire seven
- 1:38:00forty seven, you know, and and that's a feminist death laser. But
- 1:38:05they have to answer for the men's rights pen laser. Really, yeah,
- 1:38:11well answer for this ship which you didn't mean men's rights activism when you answer
- 1:38:15for your goddamn death laser named Mary Costs. Yeah, all right, let's
- 1:38:20keep going. Gets feminism, which I think is really funny, like oh
- 1:38:24no, you can't date us, you can't date a missage. It's like
- 1:38:26take back, all right, so we can have them, like we're good
- 1:38:28on you guys too. I joke. But these are hate groups that do
- 1:38:30not believe inequality, and they're made up of vile people. It's a shame
- 1:38:33that they've been able to coop the men's rights movement to an extent. But
- 1:38:36as a libertarian, I know the feeling a bull shit as a libertarian.
- 1:38:44As a libertarian libertarian, no, anybody who starts sentence with as a needs
- 1:38:49to shut the fuck up. No, no, no, But as a
- 1:38:53libertarian cooptor, I understand whereof I speak what, oh sorry, my doggo
- 1:39:00is getting a little crazy. Because she she she basically is, uh,
- 1:39:06she's a co opt of libertarian absolutely and there yeah, and then so she
- 1:39:13of course she like this confession through projection. Yep, absolutely absolutely, all
- 1:39:21right, let's do a little more and then I think I'll do the super
- 1:39:25chats and super chows. Yeah, and then I and then I think I'm
- 1:39:29gonna go, so I have I have to get going. So all right,
- 1:39:33So anyway, she says, I know the feeling our movement is no
- 1:39:36stranger to vile people trying to co opt it and krupt our message. Sorry,
- 1:39:41my doggo has many comments to make. That's fine, I can't really
- 1:39:45hear it. Yeah, I can't either. So she says, as a
- 1:39:50libertarian, I know like that. We've also had to deal with vile people
- 1:39:55that try to co opt the movement. Yeah, do you do you do
- 1:39:59libertarians or watching? Do you see what's happening here? She's basically saying,
- 1:40:03you, this boy's club called libertarianism is problematic, and she is the libertarian
- 1:40:11feminist that's going to try to fix it. Do you see what's happening?
- 1:40:15Do you see this? Okay, it is important that we distinguish between some
- 1:40:21of the very real concerns men face in our society and the creepy underbelly of
- 1:40:25unsuccessful men who just hate women. Now, no, men hate women.
- 1:40:30It's not a thing. It is not a thing. Even when they say
- 1:40:33they do. Okay, even if they say they do, they don't.
- 1:40:38Yeah. Yeah, And why why do you hate unsuccessful men? Yeah?
- 1:40:47Yeah, why don't you marry the homeless guy in the alley behind your condo?
- 1:40:53Yeah? No, it's it's like, it's like, do you do
- 1:40:55you have zero empathy? Right? Like you feminists have spent the last fifty
- 1:41:05years or more stacking the deck of society, slanting the slanting the playing field
- 1:41:16in favor of women. And now she's like and and there's all these unsuccessful
- 1:41:23men who are like creepy, and it's like, well, yeah, you
- 1:41:28created them. You you changed all of the rules, and you set all
- 1:41:32of the conditions to make them unsuccessful, to deny them the opportunity to be
- 1:41:42successful, right, no matter how how good they are. And now you're
- 1:41:47you're saying, well, unsuccessful men are creepy and gross. Yeah, it's
- 1:41:55but here's the other thing. When is when is it just like political violence,
- 1:41:59like you know, eat the rich and kill all men, Are you
- 1:42:03going to answer for that, these incredibly public things that were said? But
- 1:42:10once again, feminism's death laser that has totally blown up an entire seven forty
- 1:42:15seven and we have to answer to someone else's pen light. Yeah, all
- 1:42:23right, well she's using it to just delegitimize us completely. Oh, go
- 1:42:30ahead and do those, all right, I know. I'm okay, okay,
- 1:42:33make your decision. If you're if you're if you're doing thank you's and
- 1:42:40super chows and stuff, I'm gonna go because that's fine. The sooner I
- 1:42:45go, right, the sooner I can get some things done that I gotta
- 1:42:49get done. So you want to do another one, like more of this?
- 1:42:54Just we could do another That's what I'm trying to get out. We
- 1:42:56could do another thirty seconds. You bring you on again, Karen, Yes,
- 1:43:00you can bring me on again. It won't be tomorrow afternoon. No,
- 1:43:03it's no, No, I don't want to. I have to do
- 1:43:06stuff tomorrow. Yeah. My mother in laws establish that's to day of rest.
- 1:43:11We can't do things though. All right, Let's just do another thirty
- 1:43:15seconds. A seconds on the ballid side of the men's rights movement to reiterate
- 1:43:20these are their top concerns custody laws. I refuse to acknowledge you as the
- 1:43:26arbiter of anything's Yeah, yeah, no, you're not the arbiture of me.
- 1:43:33How do you do, my fellow labertarians? Do you may kiss my
- 1:43:38ass? In mine craft? Others? Violence against men, false accusations,
- 1:43:45over incarceration, conscription, and mental health. There's a lot to dig in.
- 1:43:48Talk about the rape of men by women. This is the thing that
- 1:43:53they always avoid, They always skip over. Yeah, yeah, they do.
- 1:43:58And the reason they do is because it doesn't make women look good and
- 1:44:02they can't blame it on men. Yeah, it's hard to blame it on
- 1:44:06men. It's really hard to say to a ripe victim. Yeah, what
- 1:44:10did you wear that night? You were asking? I'm wearing a penis strapped
- 1:44:18to my hip. Anyway, I'm gonna go because I gotta go. All
- 1:44:27right, Karen, We'll try to do more. This This video is a
- 1:44:30gold mine. I swear of rage, well mind rage, but I feel
- 1:44:33like it's a mining rage right now. Well, yeah, I'm no,
- 1:44:38you're definitely mining my rage. Again. When are they going to answer?
- 1:44:43When do we get to stand in judgment of them? Actually, no,
- 1:44:45I do get to stand in judgment of you and your entire freaking ideal ideology,
- 1:44:51and guess what you possess a goddamn death laser lady as a feminist,
- 1:45:00and you have used it, and you must answer for it, and until
- 1:45:01you disavow merry costs and all of the women who tweeted kill allmen, and
- 1:45:09all of the ugly, ugly bullshit about how men would construct a society for
- 1:45:13the benefit of themselves at the expensive women, which has no scientific validity after
- 1:45:17seventy years. It hasn't been proven, like this is the thing. It
- 1:45:21hasn't been proven. It hasn't even been proven to the standard of a civil
- 1:45:26court case that men would do this. There's absolutely no evidence that this is
- 1:45:31the case, and yet they keep perpetuating this lie against men. When you
- 1:45:36answer for that, then I'll give you the right not to be judged.
- 1:45:41God yeah, arrogance. No. Absolutely, By the way, guys,
- 1:45:46in case you think that she's just like like in some like outer circle,
- 1:45:51claiming to be a libertarian without anybody to back her up. This video was
- 1:45:56made for FEE, which is the Foundation for Economic Education, a very popular
- 1:46:01libertarian channel on YouTube and website. So this isn't a fringe thing. This
- 1:46:08is libertarians being stupid as fuck and falling for this shit. That's what it
- 1:46:13is, because they want to appear better than everybody else, so they're playing
- 1:46:16this game again. The only people, the only way we're going to get
- 1:46:20out of this is by finding women, if there are enough who are willing
- 1:46:27to hold themselves accountable and start looking in terms of what they can do for
- 1:46:31others, not what others do for them and judging others based on how well
- 1:46:35they've done it. Okay, that's it. It's the only thing. And
- 1:46:42it doesn't like when a woman like this walks up to your door and says,
- 1:46:45hey, I represent the interests of X number of women. It doesn't
- 1:46:51fucking matter. All they're gonna do. All she's gonna do is if there
- 1:46:56are other women like her, we'll have the mentality that things exist of her.
- 1:47:00There are no standards to hold her to that she doesn't come to a
- 1:47:03community and look at it in terms of what can I do to help build
- 1:47:08it, help strengthen it, help protect it, help make the people more
- 1:47:13stronger and more effective? What can I do for them? If she doesn't
- 1:47:17come to a community with that attitude of service. Then all she's going to
- 1:47:21bring is a whole bunch of sisters who are going to tear your community down
- 1:47:27to shreds. Like you don't just don't like you, Not I can do
- 1:47:31anything for men. It's this. Do not allow women like this into your
- 1:47:35life. Do not allow them into your communities. You don't have to take
- 1:47:40the rights away. Just say no, I'm not interested. No, I
- 1:47:45don't want to be your boyfriend. No I don't want you to be the
- 1:47:48spokesperson. No I don't want the women that you would bring into my community
- 1:47:54in my community. No, just safe. No, if she does doesn't
- 1:48:00come with an attitude of service, And I don't mean that they have to
- 1:48:06be completely self sacrificial. Of course, there's going to be something best benefit
- 1:48:11to people in libertarianism. Otherwise why would you be part of it. But
- 1:48:15if you don't come with an expectation that you are going to give at least
- 1:48:18as much as you get, you don't come. You don't just don't just
- 1:48:23leave, you're not helpful. Go wander the waists with the rest of the
- 1:48:27harpies or tearing everything to shit. Okay, yeah, you don't go away,
- 1:48:31but be gone. That's if I could give them one thing. You
- 1:48:39deserve better than this. You deserve better than people who constantly only ever see
- 1:48:46things in terms of their own benefit, who cannot see outside of it.
- 1:48:53That's the thing. It's like a huge walled garden in their head. They
- 1:48:56can't see beyond it. They can't see that there's more to existence than being
- 1:49:01benefited. It's like you're not even a human being at that point. You
- 1:49:06just didn't need screaming into the dark like me. But at this moment,
- 1:49:14I need to have this be over all. Right. Let's so we're gonna
- 1:49:18end the video part there, but we're not done, so don't leave stick
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- 1:52:34sometimes, um, you know, we're supposed to like a message at the
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- 1:52:56Zerker one sixty eight. I dropped links to videos from leftists that want to
- 1:52:59say men from the Manisphere or the red Pill deeply concerning because I'm convinced they
- 1:53:03will warp everything. The moment destiny started featuring on some of these programs,
- 1:53:08I knew it then seeing Michael Knowles on a whatever podcast, I saw a
- 1:53:13part or most of that. Some might some like Knowles might mean well,
- 1:53:16but they'll ultimately they all ultimately ultimately follow their guidocentric worldview. The Manisphere basically
- 1:53:24operated on the iron sharpens iron motif, and it would be the iron pieces
- 1:53:28trying to contribute that would help us figure things out. Yes, I mean,
- 1:53:31people are welcome to talk about it, but as long as, like,
- 1:53:35you know, you're able to say call them out on their excesses,
- 1:53:40whether that's you know, essentially, in most cases, both sides are going
- 1:53:45to basically say that men are responsible and women are should benefit. So you
- 1:53:50should call that out. And I think that people who are intellectually honest will
- 1:53:57not fight with you. So then I got another one from Zaraks for five
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- 1:54:48If you want to be louder, people will have to make the rounds.
- 1:54:51Pression Fit will be on Patrick Bett David's show. I don't know who Patrick
- 1:54:57Bett David is, but I'll look into it. Rollo has been there,
- 1:55:00Tulci Gabert has been on Timpool, Vie, Vic Ramaswami, Andrew Tate,
- 1:55:04etc. The criss crossing has been amazing, especially considering Adam Sasnik, who's
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- 1:55:15just Pearly Things coach Greg Adams and the lead attorney on those three and Fresh
- 1:55:19and Fit had links to the late Kevin Samuels. That's an immense amount of
- 1:55:24crossover. Thank you. Zarian's Yeah, I I you know, I always
- 1:55:28try to. I've I've reached out to Pearl a few times. You know,
- 1:55:33I've had some guys from the twenty one Studios on. I think I've
- 1:55:38had Bruno, George Bruno, I think his name is a couple of times,
- 1:55:44and um, but you know, I think I don't know. I
- 1:55:46mean, I don't want to say what they think of us, But I
- 1:55:49don't think we're on their radar because I think that they associate with people based
- 1:55:55on clout most of the time. So unless we like suddenly get like massive
- 1:55:59clout and viral, we're probably going to remain unknown. And that's you know,
- 1:56:03I mean, you do what you do, what you're gonna do.
- 1:56:05I mean me personally, I will say this, from the moment I started
- 1:56:11getting involved with the men's issues thing, all of what I've learned, not
- 1:56:15just about the men's movement, but about the world and history and everything in
- 1:56:17general since then has allowed me to prepare myself for what is probably coming and
- 1:56:24move towards that so that I will do hopefully better than the people who live
- 1:56:29in um whatever fantasy world the media, academics, politicians, and the entertainment
- 1:56:36industry have created for them. So you know, good luck living in your
- 1:56:40word wonderland. But thank you Zaranks for that. And that's all the super
- 1:56:45show. I'm not when we get messages like this like what do you expect
- 1:56:48us to do? Yeah, well, I think he's wants we can't people
- 1:56:54to be interested in what we have to say, And honestly, I would
- 1:57:00take a moment and ask yourself why they aren't interested in what we have to
- 1:57:03say. Yeah, you know, like we've been plugging away at this for
- 1:57:09twenty years. We've predicted a lot where I have uh fifteen or t almost
- 1:57:13ten years now with Honey Badger Radio. We have predicted almost everything that we
- 1:57:16see now. And these these individuals who create these shows are not interested in
- 1:57:23talking to us. You know, ask yourself, why is that? I
- 1:57:28mean, part of it is obviously we don't have clout, and you know,
- 1:57:30when you choose to say the things that we're saying, nobody's really interested
- 1:57:36in it. It's not an easy answer. It's not an easy answer.
- 1:57:41I mean you would we would get more attention if we simply said, yeah,
- 1:57:45we're gonna tell you how to attract a woman. Okay, you know,
- 1:57:51like we're gonna we're gonna tell you guys how to how to get a
- 1:57:55woman. It doesn't matter what quality, but you know you'll at the end
- 1:58:00of the day, well we'll make you know, like and that's that's the
- 1:58:02That's a lot of the pickup artists and the red pills people, they promise
- 1:58:06men that they're going to make them attractive to women. Whereas we come this
- 1:58:13from a very different angle, and that angle is are these women you want?
- 1:58:17Yeah? You know, and what good is it going to do if
- 1:58:21you attract a woman and then she fucks you over and with the system,
- 1:58:26like, well, we're good? Does that do? And that's not a
- 1:58:29message that men want to hear, and it's not a message that women want
- 1:58:31to hear. Yeah, I mean high value men are actually more vulnerable than
- 1:58:35low value men. Yeah, look at look at what Johnny Depp went through,
- 1:58:41like top one percent and he went through absolute ll Like there's nothing that
- 1:58:45a man can do to protect himself from this if it should happen, you
- 1:58:49know. And that's not what we're selling. We're not selling pussy. We're
- 1:58:56not selling an easy answer. We're not selling Another thing that I've noticed is
- 1:59:00that fear cells um, but a particular type of fear, generally fear that
- 1:59:08and then and then a blame on a group of people. And when we
- 1:59:14blame a group of people, like if we if we do something we call
- 1:59:16out feminists, we get a lot more attention. But feminists aren't necessarily a
- 1:59:20problem. There's a symptom of a deeper problem. Okay, Yeah, So
- 1:59:27we're talking about behaviors. It's easier for people to get on a side and
- 1:59:30blame the other side for what's happening, rather than looking at their own complicity
- 1:59:35in certain behaviors. Right, But the answer is never outside, it's almost
- 1:59:42always within. And they're not interested in this kind of conversation. Maybe it's
- 1:59:47too rarefied, Maybe we don't just don't have the clout. Whatever, it's
- 1:59:53their decision. What do you what do you like? What are you expecting
- 1:59:57us to do? Are we supposed to force them to do to pay attention
- 2:00:00to us? Well? Yeah, no, I think that a lot of
- 2:00:06these And look, i'm not I'm not going to call them grifters. I
- 2:00:10don't like that term. I don't think it makes sense. I don't think
- 2:00:12that that that's what it is. But I think it is about like there
- 2:00:16is a kind of elitism that goes on where it's like, well, how
- 2:00:19many subs do you have? You know, if you don't have like something
- 2:00:24in the ballpark of what I have, then you're not worth talking to um.
- 2:00:28And look, I'm not I'm not playing. I'm not I'm not woe
- 2:00:31is meing at all. I think that probably in most of these cases,
- 2:00:35we just haven't like gotten their attention or their notice, and and that's not
- 2:00:41anyone's fault. Maybe the YouTube algorithm, because I know that we get lots
- 2:00:45of comments saying you guys are criminally undersubbed. I remember when we met Carl
- 2:00:48Benjamin, like in twenty seventeen in LA he says, why don't you guys
- 2:00:53have a million subscribers? And we're like, we don't know, you know,
- 2:00:57um, but like part of it is, like, you know,
- 2:01:00we are hit by the algorithm. This is something I noticed um on Twitter.
- 2:01:08As soon as Musk took over, I went from the HBr Twitter account
- 2:01:14went from losing subs to gaining subs. Okay, there is a tailwind that
- 2:01:21we're fighting against that these individuals may not be fighting against, and we are
- 2:01:28specifically called out by feminists because we're hitting them where it really hurts. Yeah,
- 2:01:34like the manjer Tates of the world are just giving them more sound bites
- 2:01:38to justify themselves. We're actually just we're we are kicking the podium out from
- 2:01:43under them. So there's more of an incentive not to spread what we say
- 2:01:47around or even eve or even acknowledge it at all, including completely stamping down
- 2:01:56on it um. But you know, I could be completely fucking wrong.
- 2:02:00This could be some weird conspiracy. I could just be engaging in writerly paranoia.
- 2:02:05It's just what I have read and what I've learned. I know that
- 2:02:11the algorithm does punish men's rights content. I know that there are feminist groups
- 2:02:17that specifically campaign to YouTube to get certain types of content removed or reduced in
- 2:02:26scope. And I know what I saw when Twitter got taken over by Musk
- 2:02:31and what happened with our subs and our reach. Ye. So this is
- 2:02:36just some circumstantial evidence. You can analyze it as you well. But the
- 2:02:41truth is that the real line, the real political line right now, is
- 2:02:45not right, right or left. It's not really libertarian, conservative or any
- 2:02:49of this other stuff. It's between who are those people who are willing to
- 2:02:56say that women have to take responsibility and those who aren't. That's it.
- 2:03:02Yeah, that's the real political line, all right, all right? ZARANX
- 2:03:06gives us five bucks and says Tim Poole has flowed the idea of left libertarians
- 2:03:11more than once. Why wouldn't these socialists infiltrate? Right? I mean,
- 2:03:15well, anyway, I don't I'm not gonna go into it, except there's
- 2:03:19no such thing as a left libertarian. But sure, go ahead and say
- 2:03:24whatever you want. I'll get more into this, Okay. I'm really tired
- 2:03:30of cloud chasing, to be honest, Like, there was a time where
- 2:03:35I made an effort to try to court these people and try to bring them
- 2:03:39on and try to get on their shows, and I just got sick of
- 2:03:43it. Like I say what I say, people who are who stumble on
- 2:03:49it, listen, I do what I can, and if it's not enough,
- 2:03:57it's not enough. At least I'm doing something that will actually make a
- 2:04:00difference. Really blunt I think it is. I mean, even if we're
- 2:04:06getting you're not making a difference. You're not making a difference until unless you
- 2:04:12are addressing the essential problem, which is that people will not hold women accountable.
- 2:04:19And it's not a situation where it's impossible or it never happens or that,
- 2:04:24like I don't evolutionarily we just can't hold women accountable because it has happened.
- 2:04:30There have been points in time where women have stood up and took responsibility
- 2:04:34for their part in society and their part in creating strife, And there has
- 2:04:41been wonderful things that have come out of those moments, so it's not impossible.
- 2:04:47But if you're not actually advocating for that, then you're not advocating for
- 2:04:51much at all. You're just advocating for more of the chaos that's destroying everything.
- 2:04:57Women will either step up or they will won't, and if they don't,
- 2:05:01that's it. Yeah, all right, Well, thank you for the
- 2:05:06super chat ZARENX. Then Sammy B gives us ten pounds, which is probably
- 2:05:12a million dollars compared to our money, and says, thank you for caring.
- 2:05:15Thank you, Sammy B. And then Albatross gives us two dollars and
- 2:05:19says, I like it when y'all get heated, and then he puts a
- 2:05:23little flame emoji and a like rock and roll devil horns fist. Thank you,
- 2:05:30as I think we're going to be getting heated over this one. We're
- 2:05:34like foot about four minutes in and we've already Oh, I mean, I
- 2:05:41mean, I'm I was so I'm livid about this video, but but other
- 2:05:45things. But I don't want to watch these videos like I I applaud you
- 2:05:49you watched this without me and Karen, I wouldn't fucking do it. No,
- 2:05:54I know, somebody's got to watch. Somebody's got as much as me
- 2:06:00and Karen disagree on some stuff, which I don't think we disagree on a
- 2:06:02hell of a lot. But I don't want to watch a video like this
- 2:06:05without her. No. No, it's like I said before, these this,
- 2:06:11this is this is the real dangerous feminist not not not the ones that
- 2:06:15free bleed in the streets and like strip off all their clothes and paint like,
- 2:06:19you know, crazy shit on their chest. Like not those you know,
- 2:06:25they're crazy, they're they're they're certainly not like okay, but these are
- 2:06:29the ones I'm really worried about. So um, yeah, it's yeah,
- 2:06:34it's like the difference between Doomsday and Lex Luthor. You know. So Doomsday
- 2:06:40is just wilding in the streets, just like making chaos, very dangerous,
- 2:06:44but Lex Luthor is the one that you can't put in jail. So yeah,
- 2:06:51what I mean is that I I don't want this stuff going out into
- 2:06:56the world without being challenged, can you imagine? Not? Okay, So
- 2:07:00then I think about this. I don't even want to watch this by myself
- 2:07:03without you guys. But there are people out there, There are men and
- 2:07:08some women I guess who watch this and they have to endure it without you
- 2:07:13know, without their um, their padres, like without their their policy to
- 2:07:19to just just tear the shit out. Yeah, I agree. That's why
- 2:07:26I want. That's why I want our voice to be out there so right
- 2:07:30that well, you know, that's why I like to read your comments,
- 2:07:32because like, I want to know that I'm not like I'm not alone and
- 2:07:38going crazy, you know, or with just us here on this channel.
- 2:07:42Like I know that most people just couldn't even bear to hear it because it
- 2:07:48would just imagine what it does to someone's worldview. I mean, that's why
- 2:07:53there is red pill rage, right. Um, but it's I'm sorry,
- 2:07:58but it's the If it's the truth, you can't hide from it, you
- 2:08:01can't run from it. You may as well confront it, you know.
- 2:08:05And even if and even if we're wrong on some things, okay, then
- 2:08:09you've got to help us. Like that's the thing. We have to help
- 2:08:13each other, you know. It's just like Xerang said, iron sharpens iron.
- 2:08:16Um. Okay, well, let's look at it this way. We're
- 2:08:20we're in like a I don't know, a nineteen forties diesel sub right,
- 2:08:24and we have twisted and flipped every lever and and um and switch on the
- 2:08:31goddamn dashboard except for one. And nothing has helped, nothing has worked,
- 2:08:35nothing has made things better. What do you want to bet that hitting the
- 2:08:39button we're avoiding named were um, making women take responsibility, the one thing
- 2:08:50we have avoided and that we have this instinct to avoid, might be just
- 2:08:56be the one thing to save us. All yep, Okay, all right,
- 2:09:01let's I got another super chow from Zaranks. Thank you, Zaranks.
- 2:09:07Let me just check Rumble really quick, Rubble squad, what's up? Okay?
- 2:09:11And look, guys, maybe because we're not getting a lot of traction
- 2:09:16on YouTube, it might also be a good idea to follow us on Rumble
- 2:09:18because one day that might be the only place, or we're gonna end up
- 2:09:22on locals or something. So ZARX gives us five bucks and says fundraiser one
- 2:09:28sixty or fund zerker, sorry, one sixty eight. I'm not trying to
- 2:09:31apply blame. Please believe me. I'm mentioning it because I hate seeing you
- 2:09:35guys getting overlooked. Brad Wilcox was just basically dragging Rollo today on Twitter.
- 2:09:39What you offer is hard and difficult. You're probably more along the lines of
- 2:09:43Rollo, but he gets recognition where I think your voice could help as well,
- 2:09:46since you have the same information he does. Apologies for any feet stepping
- 2:09:50I may have done. No, no, no, you don't have to
- 2:09:52apologize for that. Plus, I think I think that we actually have more
- 2:09:56to offer than Rollo does. Rollo is one of the people who actually banned
- 2:10:01me, yeah, because I pointed out that, um, his approach is
- 2:10:05still appealing to women. It is like, yeah, it's still it's still
- 2:10:11appealing to being desirable to women, and and it's also used to flex on
- 2:10:16other men. But when Rollo brags about, like you know, how much
- 2:10:18pussy he's gotten, which I find is probably he'saggerated, all he's doing is
- 2:10:22saying, like, more women like me, therefore I'm better than you.
- 2:10:26So that that's not Yeah, I just want that. That's not good.
- 2:10:30Yeah, yeah, that's not how you me. That's not how a man's
- 2:10:33worth should be measured. So, um, one thing, women need to
- 2:10:39take responsibility. We need to challenge this kind of toxic competition between men.
- 2:10:45Yes, these are the two things, and these are the things that nobody
- 2:10:48wants to hear you know, wants to hear fucking stop eating ho hoes and
- 2:10:54get your ass on a treadmill. Yeah, well, you know, one
- 2:10:58of that what I've noticed about and I'm not gonna call it, well,
- 2:11:03I guess I'll call it a manisphere. But I'm talking about like the kind
- 2:11:05of like red pill male whatever it is. Community. It's not MRAs,
- 2:11:11but they know about men's rights issues. One thing I notice is they're always
- 2:11:16like they get together, they form a cooperative group, and then there's drama.
- 2:11:22Somebody betrays somebody something. It turns into pro wrestling, you know,
- 2:11:26it turns into a soap opera. And most of it has to do with
- 2:11:28these guys that are constantly competing for like alpha. Most women, most women
- 2:11:37betted status, and that is tearing. It always breaks them up. That
- 2:11:41has to stop. Guys, You're better than this, aren't you. So
- 2:11:46that's the thing that I keep seeing personally, no concern over that. I'm
- 2:11:50like, can we just deal with the divorce problem? Can we just deal
- 2:11:54with the alimony problem? Can we just deal with the child custody problem.
- 2:11:56I don't care how much ass you've gotten, it really doesn't have that much
- 2:12:01value these days. You know a lot of these women are really easy.
- 2:12:03Let's not do that anyway. Um, so yeah, like I'm disagreeing with
- 2:12:09you in a long, roundabout way. Yeah, it's it's a you know,
- 2:12:16I I'm much more interested in seeing men help each other make really good
- 2:12:22choices in in in female companionship exactly, and just compete over female companionship.
- 2:12:30But anyway, that's just me. And like I said, this is not
- 2:12:33this is this is the Yeah. Yeah, um, don't eat ding dongs
- 2:12:39and sit on the couch advice like that, and then nobody wants to hear
- 2:12:43it. Everybody wants the Oh, if you just do this one crazy trick
- 2:12:48before bedtime and you will lose five Yeah, that's what they want. Just
- 2:12:54lift bro or or it's monsanto that's made you super fat. M all right,
- 2:13:01I got another super show an anonymous person for ten dollars. I don't
- 2:13:09know who that is, but thank you, and they say please Note that
- 2:13:13people like Tom Woods has repeatedly done shows about some of the stupid stuff that
- 2:13:18goes on within mainly the bigger libertarian groups Libertarian Party in particular, kind of
- 2:13:22similar to atheism plus and the people who criticize them well, yeah, I
- 2:13:26know, I know, I know. That's been going on for a few
- 2:13:30years now. That's why there was a mess caucus. I think, not
- 2:13:33not to get too entrenched in the political stuff, but it is because they
- 2:13:37were infiltrated and primarily by feminists. And I'm telling you there is no such
- 2:13:43thing as a libertarian feminist. It does not exist. So if a woman
- 2:13:46comes and she says I'm a feminist and I'm a libertarian, you need to
- 2:13:50tell her to get to step in, because that's not really, that's not
- 2:13:54a real thing. And also you need to say, well, what do
- 2:13:58you what do you what are you going to do for us? You know,
- 2:14:03not what do you want us to do for you? Yeah, that's
- 2:14:07the litmust test. You don't even have to care. Okay, I'm a
- 2:14:09libertarian feminist. Well that's very nice, dear. What are you going to
- 2:14:11do for the community. Yeah, because this these uh, these ridiculous um
- 2:14:18oh, if you listen to me, I'll bring all the women. Well
- 2:14:20yeah, yeah, exactly. I want to eliminate the sexism in this community.
- 2:14:24Yeah, that's that's actually, that's what this is. This is this
- 2:14:26might be part of the line in the sand. We don't do the If
- 2:14:31you listen to us, you know you'll get the women, right, yeah,
- 2:14:35almost everybody else does. Really, or you're protect the women. You'll
- 2:14:39either get the women or you'll protect the women. No, we don't do
- 2:14:43that, and that's like, there's a reason why most people do that,
- 2:14:48because it sells. Everybody wants to either get the women or protect the women,
- 2:14:52including women. All right, son, thank things. Let me just
- 2:15:01check again if you want to join our very generous supporters to make sure that
- 2:15:05this content keeps coming. Like, I can't promise you. I'm never gonna
- 2:15:11say, Okay, well, this is what you need to do to get
- 2:15:13women, Like a lot of the red pill will I will say, do
- 2:15:22you want that? And what do you really want someone in your life who's
- 2:15:31going to treat you with contempt or your identity with contempt and to women?
- 2:15:35This is what I'll say. Do you really want a life in which nothing
- 2:15:39you do matters? Because that's the life promised to you by feminist theory or
- 2:15:46feminist conjecture. Nothing you do matters. All that matters is what's done to
- 2:15:54you. I can't imagine a more horrific existence than that, you know,
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