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010 - Hatshepsut - The Queen Would be King · Who Did What Now With Katie Charlwood

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Speaker 1: You're listening to an airwave media podcast. Well, hi everybody,
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Speaker 1: and welcome back to Who Did What Now? The history
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Speaker 1: podcast that is not your history class with me your
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Speaker 1: erratic host, Katie Charlwood, avid tik talker and reader of books.
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Speaker 1: Well tis Shrove Tuesday, and yeah, so's it's about Easter
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Speaker 1: is about to happen, and well Easter, no, that is incorrect. Lent,
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Speaker 1: We're coming up to Lent. Lent, if you don't know,
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Speaker 1: is a Christian holiday. I think it's it's the only
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Speaker 1: Catholics who do it. Oh no, anyway, So yeah, this
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Speaker 1: goes back to when like Jesus, you know they did
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Speaker 1: with the Beard kept on water into wine. You know,
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Speaker 1: the fella he spent forty days and forty nights in
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Speaker 1: the desert apparently and resisted temptation. And yes, we apparently
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Speaker 1: had no hoo to drink for like however many days,
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Speaker 1: forty days and forty nights, which I don't know either.
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Speaker 1: This dude was like some super survivalist because the body
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Speaker 1: can only last like three days without water. But like whatever,
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna get into this little fandango.
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Speaker 1: None of everyone around me is giving up stuff like
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Speaker 1: chocolate and booze and joy. And I'm here like no,
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Speaker 1: I'm like listen, if you all are gonna do it,
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Speaker 1: I'll do it too. But like, just because it's it's
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Speaker 1: maybe I should like stop buying books for lent because
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Speaker 1: where I went to the secret bookshop and I bought
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Speaker 1: like a ton of stuff. But anyway, this week we're
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Speaker 1: going to talk about hatshit suit, hat hat hipsuit. I
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Speaker 1: keep missing up hat chipsuit, ut the female Pharaoh. That's right.
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Speaker 1: So I did promise we would go back a little bit.
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Speaker 1: We have sort of been spending a lot of time
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Speaker 1: in the last couple episodes, like in the twentieth century,
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Speaker 1: and I promised that we would go back in time
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Speaker 1: a little bit. And I mean, if you're gonna go back,
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Speaker 1: why don't you go back to fourteen seventy three BC
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Speaker 1: or they were thereabouts? Decided we go back there? Oh.
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Speaker 1: Sources sources arehistory dot com, the Smithsonian Magazine, ah where
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Speaker 1: antless Obscura, historyhet dot com. I don't have any books
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Speaker 1: on hatschipsuit, which is oh, and also one like minute
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Speaker 1: and a half clip from Horrible Histories TV show. And
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Speaker 1: I'm fairly certain I had a book on Egypt from
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Speaker 1: when I was twelve years old or something, and it
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Speaker 1: had hatship Suit in it. But anyway, so Hatschipsuit is
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Speaker 1: known as being one of the great pharaohs. So here's
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Speaker 1: the thing about ancient Egypt, Like the ancient Egyptian Empire,
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Speaker 1: it generally saw more women in power than like other
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Speaker 1: cultures of the ancient world. I mean, in fairness, like
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Speaker 1: a lot of the deities and sort of the gods,
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Speaker 1: if you will, of ancient Egypt, they were generally a
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Speaker 1: lot of them were female. And in general Ancian Egyptians
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Speaker 1: believed and followed the wisdom of female rulers to an extent.
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Speaker 1: Something might say, so, Hatschipsuit, who I've practiced saying the name,
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Speaker 1: because I'm going to mess up some pronunciations here. I've practiced,
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Speaker 1: but I'm going to mess up up and I know it.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, so yeah, Hajib said. She was the oldest
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Speaker 1: of two daughters born to Thuton, was the first, and
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Speaker 1: his queen amez and King, and that was the first.
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Speaker 1: He was known as this sort of charismatic leader in
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Speaker 1: this great military general and also the kind of guy
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Speaker 1: who takes no shit. You know what, I mean, for example,
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Speaker 1: when as a warning content warning for this one, actually,
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Speaker 1: King Thutmost the first is known for sailing home to
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Speaker 1: Thebes with the naked body of a Newbian chieftain dangling
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Speaker 1: from the bow of a ship. And so, yeah, he's
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Speaker 1: got the naked body of this chieftain hanging off the
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Speaker 1: front of his ship as a warning against anybody who
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Speaker 1: would threaten his empire. And I'll be honest with you,
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Speaker 1: I mean, think of when that was that iso terrifying.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, so this is the kind of this was
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Speaker 1: the father, this was her father. And but Thutmost had
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Speaker 1: he had more than one wife. I should probably stake
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Speaker 1: that out state that first so Ames was his primer
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Speaker 1: wife and he had second. A bit that most of
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Speaker 1: the first also had these secondary wives, right, So the
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Speaker 1: way the sort of so the way the Pharonic line worked,
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Speaker 1: like the the laws of ascension, the rules of ascension,
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Speaker 1: things like that, these these passed from father to son.
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Speaker 1: That's kind of the whole point. I mean, they would
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Speaker 1: they would like really prefer it to be the son
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Speaker 1: of the queen, the first wife, the main wife, wife
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Speaker 1: prime of the pharaoh. But if there wasn't a male
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Speaker 1: heir they would go to one of the harem or
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Speaker 1: secondary wives a male offspring. And so even though it
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Speaker 1: is believed that the most the first had two sons
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Speaker 1: with the queen, and it would appear that both of those,
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Speaker 1: both of those boys died before their father, so with
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Speaker 1: there being no direct male in the Og family line,
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Speaker 1: the son of that was the first an metophrect that
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Speaker 1: most the second becomes King Hatch. Episode's about twelve years old,
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Speaker 1: and she becomes the queen of Egypt because she chooses
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Speaker 1: to marry her half brother that most the second, so
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Speaker 1: obviously as a male he would inherit the father's throne
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Speaker 1: and being well, I don't know if this was more
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Speaker 1: of a keeping the bloodlines pure weird concept that they
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Speaker 1: had back in the day. Yeah, so this is about
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Speaker 1: forty ninety two BC, and they have one daughter, never
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Speaker 1: I've pronounced that wrong, Neferari. And they have one daughter Neferary,
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Speaker 1: so that most of the second dies young about fourteen
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Speaker 1: seventy nine BC, so he's Anna however old he is,
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Speaker 1: and he has a secondary wife and he has an
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Speaker 1: infant son with a second wife. Seems to be a
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Speaker 1: running theme. So yeah, had chips it and that most
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Speaker 1: the second had one child. He had a son with
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Speaker 1: his home wife. That most of the third I do
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Speaker 1: not know. I couldn't find the name of the second wife,
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Speaker 1: but anyway, so generally that was the third. He was
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Speaker 1: obviously next to line to become the next pharaoh, king
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Speaker 1: of Egypt as far as we know, he was still
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Speaker 1: an infant and deemed too young to rule. And in general,
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Speaker 1: like generally in the New Kingdom, the way it worked
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Speaker 1: was the widowed queens would generally act as regents, you know,
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Speaker 1: handling all the general stuff up until their son or
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Speaker 1: their steps on or nephew or wherever they were at
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Speaker 1: that point blah blah blah blah nephew or whatever general
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Speaker 1: male heir they were came of edge until they were
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Speaker 1: old enough to actually rule. So adibs it automatically is
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Speaker 1: assigned this role. She automatically, she automatically gets the juries.
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Speaker 1: It's like there you go, hatships it. There you go,
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Speaker 1: have some fun. There you go enjoy rolling, be good
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Speaker 1: to the way. Fella, no worries. There's her steps on
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Speaker 1: and she's going to handle all like you know, all
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Speaker 1: the affairs of stage. She's going to rule for him
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Speaker 1: until he comes of edge. Obviously smart thing to do.
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Speaker 1: So this goes on for almost like seven years, and
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Speaker 1: in the Hatchip suit says, nah, I don't want to
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Speaker 1: be regent, I want to be a ruler. So she
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Speaker 1: assumes the title and full powers of a pharaoh herself
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Speaker 1: and becomes a co realer of Egypt with most of
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Speaker 1: the third Oh. She probably explained that pharaohs were generally
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Speaker 1: seen as the gods and human forms, so they were
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Speaker 1: kings and queens, and that's they were. I think the
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Speaker 1: pharaoh was the manifestation of the god Horus, if I'm
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Speaker 1: not mistaken. But so by becoming the pharaoh, you have
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Speaker 1: a godlike status. You are a god amongst men. So
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Speaker 1: initially I thought it was like the Egyptologists. Again, men
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Speaker 1: of a certain age in a certain time believed that
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Speaker 1: naked ambition a pure power play, just steally ambition. But
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Speaker 1: now that there's been a bit more research into it,
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Speaker 1: it appears that there was a political crisis that another
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Speaker 1: brand of the royal family, probably some sort of offshoot
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Speaker 1: of a secondary wife or a brother or a cousin
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Speaker 1: or something along as effect, was trying to usurp and
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Speaker 1: claim the throne and claim all the power for themselves,
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Speaker 1: and as a result, Hatchipsuit was forced into the position
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Speaker 1: of becoming pharaoh in order to protect the line for
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Speaker 1: her steps on. But here's the thing, when that most
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Speaker 1: of the third comes of age, she can't just like
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Speaker 1: step aside, because when you become pharaoh, you're pharaoh for life.
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Speaker 1: That's the deal. That's how it works. Okay, So fun fact,
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Speaker 1: Hatchipsuit is only like the third female ruler that we
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Speaker 1: really know of. So, like the first one was about Marnieth. Marnieth. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: so she was about twenty nine fifty BC, Marinieth. She
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Speaker 1: was the wife of Jet and the mother of Den.
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Speaker 1: But it is like it sort of suspected that she
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Speaker 1: was she was a ruler in her own right. One
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Speaker 1: of the reasons why is like her name is on
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Speaker 1: a list of early pharaohs on a seal in Den's tomb,
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Speaker 1: and so this would make her the first female pharaoh
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Speaker 1: in history. The second is so Beechniferu. This is like
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Speaker 1: the first female pharaoh of ancient ancient that has actually
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Speaker 1: been confirmed. We actually have evidence of so so Beechniferux.
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Speaker 1: She was. She ruled between like eighteen oh SEX and
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Speaker 1: eighteen oh two BC. And she was the last ruler
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Speaker 1: of the twelfth dynasty, like and she like yeah, so
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Speaker 1: she only reigned for like three years and ten months,
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Speaker 1: so like it wasn't a long time. But she was
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Speaker 1: the first that we really know about. So then there's
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Speaker 1: hat chip Suit. So after Hatschipsuit, there's the one that
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Speaker 1: we all sent to know about, Niffertity. Nefertity was next,
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Speaker 1: So yeah, Niffertity rule from like thirteen fifty three to
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Speaker 1: thirteen thirty six PC and then it wasn't until so yeah,
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Speaker 1: and then you've got like another thirteen hundred years until
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Speaker 1: the next female ruler comes about, which is Cleopatra, who
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Speaker 1: I'm sure most of you know about, but we will
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Speaker 1: probably cover at some point anyway, because there's a lot
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Speaker 1: of misconceptions about Cleopatra and it bugs me, but we
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Speaker 1: we will cover that another time. So yeah, hatchipsu It
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Speaker 1: is like I'm gonna be Pharaoh. I'm gonna make fetch happen.
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Speaker 1: So hatschipsu It. She's a smart cooky. She knows that
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Speaker 1: this power grab, if you will, is like really controversial.
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Speaker 1: So she so not only does she have to like
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Speaker 1: defend you know, why she's legitimate so she has to
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Speaker 1: get the family tree out praver lineage. And she also
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Speaker 1: claims that her father had appointed her his successor in
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Speaker 1: not Formost the second, which in itself was a bit
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Speaker 1: of a controversial issue, but there we go. In order
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Speaker 1: to like really reinforce this concept of her being a
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Speaker 1: strong ruler, pills the madonna and reinvents her image so effectively.
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Speaker 1: Statues and paintings, she is portrayed basically as a male pharaoh,
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Speaker 1: you know, with the beard and the muscles. So yeah,
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Speaker 1: the official sort of representations of her, she wears symbols
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Speaker 1: of the pharaoh. So she has the cat, the head
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Speaker 1: cloth which is with the so you've got the so
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Speaker 1: you have the cat, which is the head cloth which
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Speaker 1: is talked with urias, which is that sort of snaky thing,
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Speaker 1: the snake, the golden snake idea, And she wears a
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Speaker 1: false beard and the and the sndit which is like
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Speaker 1: a celt effectively, but in other imagery she was also
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Speaker 1: shown in sort of the traditional female clothing and styling.
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Speaker 1: And Okay, so she's in a position of power and
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Speaker 1: she's like, well, I need to surround myself with people
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Speaker 1: who support me, people who are like on my side
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Speaker 1: in aren't total ass hats, So one of them is Sinnmut,
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Speaker 1: her chief minister. Now why this is important is like
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Speaker 1: the archaeologists that discovered haship suit wear out about this, gentlemen,
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Speaker 1: scholars of a certain generation of the past, so who
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Speaker 1: they would see this as like devious politics. These Egyptologists
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Speaker 1: believed that sinn Inmut was her lover and a co
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Speaker 1: conspirator who actually helped her, like usurp the throne effectively.
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Speaker 2: And for what basis because he existed and she was
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Speaker 2: a woman, and obviously a woman couldn't get that kind
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Speaker 2: of power without being deviant.
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Speaker 1: And they also saw like the imagery that she used
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Speaker 1: to portray herself as like deliberately deceptive and devious, and
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Speaker 1: I just and the whole sentiment thing, there's like not
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Speaker 1: enough information. There isn't any evidence to support the fact
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Speaker 1: that he was her lover. Like it's not there, it
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Speaker 1: doesn't exist. It's like, ah, clearly this woman could not
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Speaker 1: do this on her own. But like if she really
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Speaker 1: wanted like power all to herself, she could have just
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Speaker 1: you know, had that most of her like under the thumb,
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Speaker 1: she could have put him on her house arrest effectively
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Speaker 1: pyramid arrest. No. No, they didn't live in pyramids. Pyramids
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Speaker 1: were tombs. No, Like she had him training, he was
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Speaker 1: learning to be like a warrior because that he was
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Speaker 1: destined apparently to be like this warrior pharaoh, which is
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Speaker 1: generally the rule, because again you are a king good
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Speaker 1: amongst men. But yeah, so even though she dressed in
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Speaker 1: the traditional male pharaoh regalia with the fake beard and
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Speaker 1: everything else that that came with it, the inscriptions on
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Speaker 1: her statues and things like that have you know, they're
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Speaker 1: generally feminine. So like daughter of Ray, so hantships. It
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Speaker 1: actually takes a new name, which we don't really hear
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Speaker 1: about Ovin. It's called Matt Carr and Matt Carrey. They
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Speaker 1: think this means truth and soul of the sun god Ray.
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Speaker 1: And by taking on this name Hatcheps, it is telling
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Speaker 1: the Egyptian people that she has the capability and the
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Speaker 1: power to legitimately speak directly with the gods as pharaohs,
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Speaker 1: could you know that sort of way. And one of
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Speaker 1: the ways they did they sort of proved this and
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Speaker 1: showed this, showed their power and showed how great they
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Speaker 1: were is by creating monuments. So Harchip sits. Her stuff
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Speaker 1: was like the most ambitious. Her stuff was like very
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Speaker 1: out there. It was massive in comparison to the previous pharaohs.
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Speaker 1: Starting off, she's like, do you start small? And she's like, no,
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Speaker 1: let's get bigger obviously. So she has the erection, so
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Speaker 1: it's a great temple complex at Karnak, and she gets
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Speaker 1: these one hundred foot tall obelisks, built two of them,
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Speaker 1: so she has two of them at this temple. This
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Speaker 1: is no mean feat because they're like they yeah, and
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Speaker 1: each of these, each of these weighs four hundred and
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Speaker 1: fifty tons and they have to be towed along the
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Speaker 1: Nile by twenty seven chips with eight hundred fift oarsman Like,
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Speaker 1: this is no main feate. And she did stuff like
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Speaker 1: all over Egypt, but the majority of the time she
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Speaker 1: would concentrate around Thebes. You know, this is like the
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Speaker 1: center of the Utmoside dynasty. And she builds roadways and
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Speaker 1: sanctuaries at the Dear Albira, at the deer Il, at
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Speaker 1: the Dear Elber, at the Dale El Barri, which is
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Speaker 1: just acrossrom the Nile and Thebes. She erects this massive,
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Speaker 1: this memorial temple and it's used for like really special
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Speaker 1: religious rights. And it is astounding. It is her masterpiece.
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Speaker 1: And let's just say it's kind of dramatic. So it's
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Speaker 1: at the base of these limestone cliffs and it is
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Speaker 1: and it is referred to as one of the architectural
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Speaker 1: wonders of the ancient world. So there's a series of
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Speaker 1: terroristd colonnades and courtyards then appear to ascend up the
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Speaker 1: side of the mountain itself, and it is like how
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Speaker 1: about this, and it's about this, it's and it's huge.
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Speaker 1: It's about the size of two and a half football fields,
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Speaker 1: but it's designed to look light and be graceful, whereas
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Speaker 1: like previous temples that were built by like her predecessors,
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Speaker 1: they were always seen as like fortress, like you know
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Speaker 1: what I mean. So in this temple, there were all
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Speaker 1: these images of hatschip suit. Some of these statues are
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Speaker 1: like ten foot ten feet tall. There's hatchips it as
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Speaker 1: a sphinx guarding the procession away. There's She's there's ones
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Speaker 1: where she is in the guise of a ciris. She's
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Speaker 1: sort of kneeling with offerings to the gods. She's and
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Speaker 1: like a bunch of other ones, and then some ofe
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Speaker 1: she's just like walking towards you know, instead of other
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Speaker 1: sort of devotion, you know, sort of stages. Like a
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Speaker 1: good number of these statues actually survived, are some are
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Speaker 1: some didn't obviously because it's been like several thousand years.
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Speaker 1: But most of these statues are like they're huge, and
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Speaker 1: they're meant to be like seen from afar Oh. And
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Speaker 1: at the lower levels of the temple there's like pills
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Speaker 1: and gardens and there's like really fragrant trees and bushes,
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Speaker 1: and it's very pleasant. It's very tranquil and pleasant and important.
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Speaker 1: So most like egyptologists and archaeologists agree that, yeah, so Cinema,
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Speaker 1: the guy they thought she was banging earlier, he's like
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Speaker 1: the official overseers. So it says, job to make sure
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Speaker 1: this gets done. But like it's of But like most
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Speaker 1: archaeologists in Egyptologists like agree that he was probably the
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Speaker 1: architect of this. At this point, he's got like night.
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Speaker 1: So Cinema to himself actually has like ninety three titles.
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Speaker 1: He was I think he was originally the he was
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Speaker 1: Nefari Ray's tutor as far as I remember o gues So, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: one of his titles is like the Great Steward of
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Speaker 1: a Moon, which means he's in charge of all of
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Speaker 1: Cornark's building and business activities. He actually has like twenty
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Speaker 1: five monuments himself, which is like really weird because generally
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Speaker 1: non royals do not have that, Like it's usually reserved
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Speaker 1: for members of the royal line and so on and
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Speaker 1: so forth. Yeah. So yeah, just because because he was
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Speaker 1: like the big supporter, he was probably her confidante, you
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Speaker 1: know what I mean said not don't actually know what
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Speaker 1: happened to sentiment because he has this like really awesome
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Speaker 1: tomb and it's near Hatchip Suits in the Valley of
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Speaker 1: the Kings, but his body was never in it and
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Speaker 1: we don't know why. But there was like a bunch
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Speaker 1: of damage to which is weird. But anyway, we have
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Speaker 1: no idea why or water howse. Yeah, So basically restore,
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Speaker 1: restoration and building are like a really huge part of
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Speaker 1: being a pharaoh. So so she in FEBEs, she focuses
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Speaker 1: on the temples of her divine father, then nah So
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Speaker 1: temples on Amonrae so amon Ra the Karnak temple complex.
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Speaker 1: So she remodels so in order that she she models
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Speaker 1: that most of the first hippostyle hall, she adds a
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Speaker 1: bark shine and the obelisks. This is all the Karnak
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Speaker 1: Temple and Benny Hassan and Middle Egypt. She builds this
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Speaker 1: rock cut temple. It's known in Greek as spears or tomatoes.
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Speaker 1: And she also when she when it comes to her tomb,
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Speaker 1: she so she actually extends her father's tomb so that
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Speaker 1: when they so when she is interred, they are going
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Speaker 1: to be together. So she must have had so in
21:56
Speaker 1: order to do this, Like you have to think that
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Speaker 1: she must have been like such a daddy's girl. She's
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Speaker 1: been like such a daddies girl. She wass to like
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Speaker 1: really revered him. If she like they believed this was
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Speaker 1: the whole thing. You go into the afterlife together, I mean,
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Speaker 1: to want to be that close in the afterlife, you
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Speaker 1: know what I mean. So in general, the thing that
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Speaker 1: perhaps she'd said is known for as well as like
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Speaker 1: all the massive temples, is that like her reign was
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Speaker 1: generally a peaceful one. So normally the Egyptian rulers they
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Speaker 1: would defend their land against all the enemies that were
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Speaker 1: the borters. Most of her foreign policy, if you will,
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Speaker 1: was based on not on war, but on trading, although
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Speaker 1: as far as we know, there was a successful military
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Speaker 1: campaign in Nubia, but trade wise there are like Seaborn there,
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Speaker 1: you know, there's trading expeditions to Punt. It was like
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Speaker 1: it was like a I think it's uh which is
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Speaker 1: like a trading center on the East African coast, which
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Speaker 1: is beyond the Red Sea, which I think is believed
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Speaker 1: to be modern Somalia. So she brings back with her ivory, ebony, gold,
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Speaker 1: the boones, leopard skins, incense mar so not or does
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Speaker 1: she bring back processed mar but also march trees. Yeah,
23:17
Speaker 1: so she brings back more trees and these actually get
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Speaker 1: planted in the gardens of dear Elberrie and there's supposedly
23:23
Speaker 1: still like there's the there's like this withered old tree
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Speaker 1: stump and it is it's so it's outside the mortuary
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Speaker 1: temple of hat Chipsuit and it's in this it's sort
23:33
Speaker 1: of in this little cage and it's ach and it's
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Speaker 1: this withered old stump is supposedly a mertree from three
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Speaker 1: and a half thousand years ago, but like we can't
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Speaker 1: check it really there's a WE sign on it which
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Speaker 1: says this tree was brought from plant. Perhaps she suits
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Speaker 1: expedition which is depicted on the temple walls, but we
23:56
Speaker 1: can't like to check it because if it is real
23:59
Speaker 1: then and it's yes. So trade routes are as far
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Speaker 1: as Ethiopia, which is, you know, from Egypt pretty far.
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Speaker 1: So under the rule of Hatships, that Egypt basically prospers.
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Speaker 1: They've got trade going on, they've got very few battles,
24:18
Speaker 1: you know, not so much bloodshed. They're building lords and shit,
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Speaker 1: it's all going pretty funky. So so we think, we
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Speaker 1: think that Hatships that died around about fourteen fifty eight PC,
24:33
Speaker 1: when she would be in her mid forties, but we're
24:35
Speaker 1: not entirely sure on that one. So she gets buried
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Speaker 1: in the Valley of the Kings, and her father's sarcophagus
24:42
Speaker 1: is reburied in her tomb. So anyway, that Most the
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Speaker 1: third he ascends to the throne, and he rules for
24:48
Speaker 1: like another thirty years, and just like a stepmom, he's
24:53
Speaker 1: building a bunch of shit. But like weirdly enough, in
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Speaker 1: the last ten years or so of his rule, it
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Speaker 1: appears that that Most a third he started to get
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Speaker 1: rid of the evidence of Hatships it's rule. And although
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Speaker 1: like the original theory was like he destroyed everything to
25:11
Speaker 1: do with her because she still was throwing her some bullshit,
25:14
Speaker 1: but like it was really late on. It was like
25:17
Speaker 1: in the last ten or so years of his reign
25:20
Speaker 1: that like a bunch of stuff was destroyed. Now was
25:23
Speaker 1: it destroyed or attempted to anyway? Like was it destroyed
25:27
Speaker 1: to sort of, you know, dampen down and extinguish the
25:30
Speaker 1: concept of a female ruler or was it a sort
25:34
Speaker 1: of closing the gap to sort of solidify his claim
25:38
Speaker 1: to the throne, like make it more like a direct
25:40
Speaker 1: line as opposed to my stepmom got it than me,
25:43
Speaker 1: you know that sort of way. And this is why
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Speaker 1: scholars and egyptologists and archaeologists had little to know knowledge
25:51
Speaker 1: of hatschips it until like eighteen twenty two. And in
25:55
Speaker 1: nineteen oh three, Iward Carter Nriano Haward Carter, he just
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Speaker 1: covers Hatchup suit sarcophagus just like one of three and
26:04
Speaker 1: it was empty like most of the terms in Valley
26:09
Speaker 1: of the Kings, and like in a separate tomb. Carter
26:12
Speaker 1: also finds these these two coffins, one of which is
26:17
Speaker 1: of Hatchups it's wet nurse okay, and this anonymous and
26:23
Speaker 1: then this other woman anonymous no idea, and he thought
26:27
Speaker 1: maybe this could be hard, didn't know, but anyway, so
26:31
Speaker 1: like into this an insects, doctor Zahi Hawass sets out
26:34
Speaker 1: to like figure out if who this anonymous woman in
26:37
Speaker 1: the in this in this coffin. So basically they find
26:41
Speaker 1: this molar tooth, and the molar tooth is in a
26:44
Speaker 1: wooden box, and the wooden boxes Hatschip sit on it,
26:46
Speaker 1: so you know, you know, it didn't really didn't really
26:50
Speaker 1: take Sherlock Holmes to figure out that one. So Haas
26:54
Speaker 1: and the has and his colleagues they compare this molar
26:58
Speaker 1: tooth to the mummy's upper jaw and it's a perfect fit.
27:04
Speaker 1: So Carter did find Hatships it way back when and
27:09
Speaker 1: or maybe two thousand and seven. It was two thousand
27:11
Speaker 1: and six, seven, I don't know. And it's kept in
27:15
Speaker 1: a museum in Cairo, and a life size statue of
27:20
Speaker 1: hatschipsuit if you want to see it. One of the
27:22
Speaker 1: ones that did not get smashed by her steps on
27:25
Speaker 1: is on display at the Metropolitan Museum in New York City.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, that is Hatchips it, the queen who would
27:32
Speaker 1: be king, the queen who would be king. There you go,
27:36
Speaker 1: hatchips It, the queen who would be king? Ha ha ha.
27:40
Speaker 1: What have we learned today? Label your shit? You want
27:45
Speaker 1: to make sure somebody knows who you are, where you
27:47
Speaker 1: were from. If they didn't have her name on that,
27:49
Speaker 1: we wouldn't box, Like you know what I mean? Label
27:52
Speaker 1: your shit and you know, reach for your goals. Actually,
27:57
Speaker 1: let's make this a positive thing for what you want
28:00
Speaker 1: to do and go fucking do it. I think that's
28:03
Speaker 1: kind of kind of the goal here. Yeah, But like
28:07
Speaker 1: there's so much we don't know about hatchips It because
28:11
Speaker 1: of the destruction led by that most of the third
28:14
Speaker 1: I had just kind of pain, like she could have
28:17
Speaker 1: done so much and we literally do not know. Like
28:21
Speaker 1: it's it's true, that's neither here nor there. Ah. So
28:26
Speaker 1: more books, more books, somebody guilt my bis the more
28:30
Speaker 1: bigs is me. I got more books today. There's a
28:34
Speaker 1: website if if you're living in Ireland. There's a website
28:36
Speaker 1: called the Secret Bookstore dot I and I just bought
28:42
Speaker 1: ten books from there. It was so good. There was
28:47
Speaker 1: a bunch of books. I even bought a book on
28:49
Speaker 1: the Battle of Agincore. The reason I got the Battle
28:53
Speaker 1: of Agincourt is because it's one of the few things
28:55
Speaker 1: in history that I have zero knowledge about, zero knowledge.
29:00
Speaker 1: I know nothing about it. So I thought, Eh, let's
29:04
Speaker 1: talk about this. So yeah, I'll probably do. I'll probably
29:08
Speaker 1: move back to the twentieth century for next week, but
29:11
Speaker 1: I will go back to I think the Middle Ages.
29:14
Speaker 1: I think I want to do some Middle Ages stuff
29:16
Speaker 1: just because.
29:16
Speaker 3: I think it's fun. And also I have a book
29:18
Speaker 3: on witch hunters, which seems like it's gonna be stup Brookslaton.
29:21
Speaker 3: Someone needs to stop me buying books. I feel like
29:24
Speaker 3: that's the thing right now, just like, stop me buying books.
29:27
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29:54
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29:57
Speaker 1: At gmail dot com? There's a pod there? What Now Pod?
30:00
Speaker 1: At gmail dot com? And also what's the other one?
30:05
Speaker 1: What is the other one? What is the other one? Oh?
30:09
Speaker 1: Instagram who did what Now? Pod? And TikTok who did
30:12
Speaker 1: what Now? Pod? Where? I do like little snippets and stuff,
30:14
Speaker 1: although I'll probably start doing a few more Instagram stuff
30:18
Speaker 1: because one of the things I talk about is the
30:21
Speaker 1: history of contraceptives, but I haven't quite gotten through all
30:25
Speaker 1: that yet, so the history of But I also want
30:29
Speaker 1: to talk about the history of pornography and the history
30:31
Speaker 1: of eroticism, but TikTok suidelines might make it really difficult
30:35
Speaker 1: for me to talk about so probably just so I'll
30:39
Speaker 1: probably do on Instagram instead because that way, or maybe
30:42
Speaker 1: even no YouTube, No, maybe not yet. YouTube is so
30:46
Speaker 1: much more and more complicated and more hassle, so I
30:49
Speaker 1: probably won't do that yet, but probably on Instagram. So
30:53
Speaker 1: happy thought for the week. It's It's Show of Tuesday
30:55
Speaker 1: tomorrow and I am going to eat my weight in
30:58
Speaker 1: pancakes and I will regret nothing. Although don't be surprised
31:02
Speaker 1: if my Twitter is just pray for Mojo tomorrow. I
31:08
Speaker 1: had such a huge you know what I just remembered.
31:10
Speaker 1: I had like such a huge Egyptian phase as a kid,
31:14
Speaker 1: like to the point where my uncle bought me this
31:19
Speaker 1: this kit with like a plaster of Paris like sort
31:22
Speaker 1: of kit mold, and I could make my own sarcophagus
31:26
Speaker 1: and I did like and there was like the sort
31:28
Speaker 1: of papyrus type paper, and you know, there was a
31:31
Speaker 1: whole thing about reading hieroglyphics, even though like you don't
31:34
Speaker 1: really we can't really read Egyptian language per se. But
31:39
Speaker 1: that's neither here nor there anyway. But if you have
31:41
Speaker 1: any recommendations for what you want me to cover at
31:44
Speaker 1: some point on either this or in video form in
31:47
Speaker 1: my short form videos or covering the podcast, just give me,
31:51
Speaker 1: give me a week a week tweet or a wee message,
31:53
Speaker 1: and we can talk about it. Any Wait, this has
31:55
Speaker 1: been super fun. I will check to you next week.
31:58
Speaker 1: I will talk to you next week. I will ever
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Speaker 1: take your ear drums with my dulcet tones next week.
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Speaker 3: Okay, everybody, Adios au revoir of Witta Zen my friends.
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Speaker 1: Bye,