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#414 'Tis The Season to be Cranky · Dr Justin Coulson's Happy Families

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  Speaker 1: It's their Happy Families podcast.
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  Speaker 2: We're a little bit more sensitive at this time of
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  Speaker 2: the year as well.
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  Speaker 1: Because we're so tired.
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  Speaker 2: We're tired and stressed.
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  Speaker 1: We're supposed to be relaxed, so none.
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  Speaker 2: Of us are at our best. And now here's the
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  Speaker 2: stars of our show, my mom and dad.
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  Speaker 1: Hello, this is doctor Justin Colson, the author of a
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  Speaker 1: whole bunch of books that would be fantastic Christmas gifts.
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  Speaker 2: Oh what a great idea bunch of books? Are my
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  Speaker 2: favorite Christmas gift?
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  Speaker 1: To give one of my books?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I love to give relationship rules because do you
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  Speaker 2: know what.
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  Speaker 1: No, I this is totally unscripted, by the way, but
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  Speaker 1: thanks for the plug.
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  Speaker 2: It's white and red, right look, and I tie it
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  Speaker 2: with a beautiful white bow, and then I tuck in
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  Speaker 2: a little candy cane. Yeah, red and white candy. It
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  Speaker 2: just looks so good.
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  Speaker 1: It looks Christmas.
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  Speaker 2: It looks so good.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Happy Families dot com dot you if you're interested
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  Speaker 1: speaking of Happy Families dot com dot you on Monday night.
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  Speaker 1: So every month, if you're a Happy Family's Premium member
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  Speaker 1: or in fact a Happy Family's member, we include in
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  Speaker 1: our memberships for you every single month a webinar about
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  Speaker 1: making your family happier, because a happy family doesn't just happen.
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  Speaker 1: And on Monday Night this week, we did a webinar
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  Speaker 1: that might be interesting for everybody who is a little
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  Speaker 1: bit stressed about relationships in laws, arties, uncles, cousins, everyone
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  Speaker 1: crashing at your house or you having to go to
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  Speaker 1: everyone else's house. You know, Christmas is funny. Sometimes we
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  Speaker 1: struggle a little bit with our relatives throughout the year,
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  Speaker 1: but we've got this romantic notion that we're supposed to
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  Speaker 1: suddenly be best friends with our entire family at Christmas time,
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  Speaker 1: even though we sort of struggle a bit during the year.
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  Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: Do you think it's a romantic notion or do you
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  Speaker 2: just think there's this in a hope in us gether
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  Speaker 2: we can pull it together.
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  Speaker 1: We're designed to be connected, especially to those to whom
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  Speaker 1: we are biologically related. That's how we're actually designed, and
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  Speaker 1: so we kind of think Christmas is a time of
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  Speaker 1: coming together. It's a time of connection. It's time of
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  Speaker 1: giving and healing and forgiveness and kindness and gift giving.
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  Speaker 1: And so we can think, yes, this Christmas is going
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  Speaker 1: to be better this year, even though we had a
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  Speaker 1: horrible year with the sister in law, or with our
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  Speaker 1: brother who said that unkind thing, or our mum who
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  Speaker 1: continues to be by the way, I'm not talking about
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  Speaker 1: your mom or my mum but continues to be insensitive
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  Speaker 1: or whatever it is, the stepdad, all those sorts of things.
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  Speaker 1: We kind of just have this hope that Christmas is
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  Speaker 1: going to be time of togetherness and we're going to
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  Speaker 1: sit in the living room and smile at each other
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  Speaker 1: and talk about fond memories, eat good food, open and
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  Speaker 1: give safe thank you to one another, hug and heal,
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  Speaker 1: and you.
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  Speaker 2: Know what, Sometimes that happens.
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  Speaker 1: It does, and then.
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  Speaker 2: And then January and then Boxing Day comes and you're
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  Speaker 2: kind of what happened? We had this awesome day yesterday
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  Speaker 2: and everything was fine, and now.
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  Speaker 1: We're back to where we were sometimes anyway, we did
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  Speaker 1: a webinar on Monday night that I think can be
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  Speaker 1: helpful for any family that has tricky moments around Christmas
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  Speaker 1: and wants to get it wants to get it better.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to give a plug to Evelyn. She does
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  Speaker 2: all of our social media posts and just does such
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  Speaker 2: a brilliant job. She's on fire at the moment, meant
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  Speaker 2: she is, and she created these little ninja posts for
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  Speaker 2: your webinar and shared some of the things that you
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  Speaker 2: shared in your webinart.
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  Speaker 1: Ninja posted, but there were little ninjas by the way.
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  Speaker 1: We will we will repost that because it absolutely went
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  Speaker 1: off on social media. I think it was one of
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  Speaker 1: the most shared social posts we've ever done. Will repost it.
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  Speaker 2: She needs to repost it.
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  Speaker 1: Now. We're going to repost it on social so that
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  Speaker 1: everyone can find it, because you've got to go back
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  Speaker 1: a couple of weeks.
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  Speaker 2: It's going to be there if you just go to
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  Speaker 2: Instagram and you just click on your link and oh yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's fine.
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  Speaker 1: It just comes straight up on Facebook as well. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: we want everybody to be able to see it again. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so there you go.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not even technically zavvy and I know how to
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  Speaker 2: do that.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'm the boss and I'm saying that the team
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  Speaker 1: are going to put it back around.
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  Speaker 2: So she's going to be cranky at you.
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  Speaker 1: So let's talk about the things. There are seven things
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  Speaker 1: that I've suggested in the webinar.
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  Speaker 2: You know that brains can only take in two or three, right, Well.
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  Speaker 1: Let's do two now and then we're really smokes five
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  Speaker 1: alfter the break.
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  Speaker 2: Anybody who's followed you for a long time knows that
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  Speaker 2: you can't do it until or three. But anyway, the
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  Speaker 2: first one was create some structure, all right. What I
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  Speaker 2: love about this one is the fact that the reality
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  Speaker 2: doesn't usually work out the way we want it to.
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  Speaker 2: There's always something going on.
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  Speaker 1: So somebody shows up late, or somebody forgets something like
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  Speaker 1: I'll forget to put the roast in the oven or
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  Speaker 1: something like that. Everything's cooked and sudden we're like, oh no,
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  Speaker 1: we've got no meat, or whatever it might be.
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  Speaker 2: So the most important thing is to have a schedule
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  Speaker 2: of some sort. Communicate it with everybody what your expectations are.
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  Speaker 1: Be flexible.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think it has to be a minute by
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  Speaker 2: minute thing. But if you would like to have lunch
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  Speaker 2: at one o'clock, then it's just the house is open
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  Speaker 2: from eleven. We will be eating at one.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, whether you here or not, because you might have
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  Speaker 1: stuff with the in laws. You might have stuff somewhere else,
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  Speaker 1: but be here in time for the one o'clock food,
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  Speaker 1: otherwise you'll miss out on the food. You might also
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  Speaker 1: say the general structure is everyone's going to show up,
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  Speaker 1: We're going to catch up, do a bit of prep.
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  Speaker 1: We'll be eating at one, and we're going to do
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  Speaker 1: the family tradition stuff around presents or reading the Nativity,
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  Speaker 1: a faith background or whatever it is that you do
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  Speaker 1: as a family on a Christmas Day. We'll be doing
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  Speaker 1: that from two, or from three or from four, so
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  Speaker 1: everyone has a good idea of what the general outline
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  Speaker 1: of the day is. It's an expectation setting exercise and
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  Speaker 1: it takes the pressure off.
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  Speaker 2: Well, there's nothing worse when you show up somewhere and
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  Speaker 2: you kind of think you're going to be there for
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  Speaker 2: an hour and find out five hours later, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You're still there. Pretty annoying, by the way, if you're
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  Speaker 1: the host and somebody is late and things just don't
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  Speaker 1: going to plan, have a couple of backup activities scheduled
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  Speaker 1: or ready to go, Like we're doing a podcast about
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  Speaker 1: favorite Christmas movies. Have a Christmas movie on standby, have
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  Speaker 1: it ready to go, so that if the kids are
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  Speaker 1: getting antsy, or maybe the kids don't play well with
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  Speaker 1: their cousins, they don't want to share their new Christmas toys,
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  Speaker 1: and you might be able to say, hey, you know what,
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  Speaker 1: we've got that DVD remember when we had Maybe you've
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  Speaker 1: got a DVD lined up, or if you're a DVD
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  Speaker 1: or if you're a modern parent, you might even have
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  Speaker 1: a subscription service and you can stream something.
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  Speaker 3: Has you know.
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  Speaker 2: Our seven year old shared a story with me that
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  Speaker 2: she wrote the other day. She was talking about this
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  Speaker 2: tape and she looked at me and she said, you know, mum,
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  Speaker 2: the tapes that you recorded the movies on and you
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  Speaker 2: push them into that machine.
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  Speaker 1: Really, she said, or she didn't know what it was,
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  Speaker 1: but she knew that it was a machine that existed.
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  Speaker 1: All right, well, we've just dated.
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  Speaker 2: Ourselves anyway, we don't dress. Let's go to phase two.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Our practice acceptance is this one. And we talked
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  Speaker 1: about this at length in the webinar. The kids are
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  Speaker 1: going to grow in a moon. Sometimes your partner might
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  Speaker 1: be apathetic or misaligned with your view. In other words,
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  Speaker 1: you might be like, oh, this is going to be
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  Speaker 1: so special, it's all about family, and they're like hate it.
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  Speaker 1: Can't wait for it to be over because that happens.
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  Speaker 1: Let's be real about it. Some people really struggle with
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  Speaker 1: this sort of stuff. And if you can just accept that.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Grandpa shows up and if he gets his hearing aids,
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  Speaker 2: so he talks at the top of his voice, or
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  Speaker 2: you have to repeat yourself fifteen times because Grandma's not listening.
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  Speaker 1: Or was she staring at a phone?
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  Speaker 2: Whatever it is, and you can make a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of a game out of it, can't you.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you're not in a nasty way, but let's just
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  Speaker 1: accept sometimes it is what it is. They are who
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  Speaker 1: they are. I think it's really important that we attribute
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  Speaker 1: the best possible motives to them. They didn't show with bingo.
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  Speaker 1: That's right, you get to come.
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  Speaker 2: How many times does grandma not listen?
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  Speaker 1: How many times does Grandpa say that same dad joke
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  Speaker 1: that he says every.
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  Speaker 2: Year, who's the first one to two?
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  Speaker 1: By the way, in our family, we don't say fart,
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  Speaker 1: we say suit can't believe you? Just okay? So they're
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  Speaker 1: the first two things. You know what, Let's do one
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  Speaker 1: more before the break.
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  Speaker 2: Because phase three craft your joy. I really think I
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  Speaker 2: just want to live in face.
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  Speaker 1: I really want to emphasize this, and that is that
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  Speaker 1: there are some things that are going to bring you
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  Speaker 1: joy at Christmas, and it might be involving your family
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  Speaker 1: or it might not, but make sure that when you're
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  Speaker 1: scheduling your Christmas Day that you acknowledge the things that
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  Speaker 1: matter most to you and schedule an opportunity for it.
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  Speaker 1: So for you and I, there are a couple of
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  Speaker 1: things that I think matter most. We love morning hugs
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  Speaker 1: the kids on the Christmas Eve. We love to go
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  Speaker 1: to bed early with a book, and by early I
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  Speaker 1: mean about eight thirty, so we fall asleep by about
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  Speaker 1: page six. We love to after we've opened our gifts,
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  Speaker 1: have conversations about what we've been what we've been grateful
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  Speaker 1: for during the year, what has been the most wonderful
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  Speaker 1: gift that we've experienced in our lives during the last year.
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  Speaker 1: We make sure that we read through the Nativity with
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  Speaker 1: the kids. Those are things that bring our family and
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  Speaker 1: bring us joy.
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  Speaker 2: The kids love us watching them open their gifts. They
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  Speaker 2: actually love us to be a part of that and
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  Speaker 2: to watch their expressions and for them to be able
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  Speaker 2: to express their joy and their gratefulness and gratitude for
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  Speaker 2: the things that they've been gifted.
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  Speaker 1: So I think that it's critically important as we go
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  Speaker 1: to the break that we recognize that Christmas, even if
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  Speaker 1: it does come with stress, because the relatives can be
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  Speaker 1: cranks sometimes or grinchy. There are some things that happen
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  Speaker 1: on Christmas Day, or on Christmas Eve, or around the
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  Speaker 1: Christmas season that bring us joy, and we need to
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  Speaker 1: create the space make the moments of joy and bliss
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  Speaker 1: happen so that Christmas does feel special at least in
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  Speaker 1: those moments.
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  Speaker 2: I love it.
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  Speaker 2: It's the Happy Families Podcast, The podcast for the time
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  Speaker 2: poor parent who just wants answers now and today. If
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  Speaker 2: you're feeling a little bit grinchy, then this podcast might
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  Speaker 2: be helpful.
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  Speaker 1: How do we navigate the challenges of Christmas and relatives
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  Speaker 1: and people being in our space? And I don't know
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  Speaker 1: somebody is saying something insensitive because that does tend to
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  Speaker 1: happen at Christmas when big groups get together, especially if
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  Speaker 1: you come from a family where there's a bit of
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  Speaker 1: a bit of wine or a bit of alcohol involved,
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  Speaker 1: somebody can't help but open up their mouth and say
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  Speaker 1: that offensive thing.
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  Speaker 2: I think too, we're a little bit more sensitive at
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  Speaker 2: this time of year as well, because we were so
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  Speaker 2: tired and stressed.
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  Speaker 1: We're supposed to be relaxed, so none.
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  Speaker 2: Of us are at our best where sometimes those things
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  Speaker 2: would happen and they just kind of brush over us.
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  Speaker 2: But in that timeframe, which just is so extra sensitive too, right,
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  Speaker 2: So phase four is to assume the best intentions.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean I kind of touched on this before,
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  Speaker 1: but let's just really drill into this for a second.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe your father in law is that guy who just
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  Speaker 1: says offensive things, especially if he's had a drink or two.
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  Speaker 1: And what he's saying might absolutely reek of politically correctness.
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  Speaker 1: It might offend your sensibilities, and you might even be
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  Speaker 1: right and he might actually be wrong. But what's actually
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  Speaker 1: going on is he's trying to share something that's important
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  Speaker 1: to him and he believes that he's right and he
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  Speaker 1: wants you to realize his wise ways. And the same
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  Speaker 1: thing happens when your Mum shows up and it's critical
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  Speaker 1: of what you're wearing. What are you wearing that for
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  Speaker 1: on Christmas Day? Or what you cooked? Why did you
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  Speaker 1: prepare that it's too hot for this or it's too
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  Speaker 1: cold for that, or the cooking or the kids, or
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  Speaker 1: in their own clumsy way. Have you noticed that sometimes
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  Speaker 1: relatives try to be helpful by pointing out all of
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  Speaker 1: your faults and everything that's wrong with the way you're
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  Speaker 1: living your life, and Christmas days the day to do
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  Speaker 1: it like it's clumsy, it's wrongheaded, it's inappropriate, but they're trying.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't wake up that morning and think, oh, how
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  Speaker 1: can I make how can I ruin Christmas? How can
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  Speaker 1: I offend everybody at Christmas lunch? Like that's not what
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  Speaker 1: they woke up doing. And I think we've just got
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  Speaker 1: to assume the best of intentions. We can find our
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  Speaker 1: relatives far easier to stomach when we just think it's
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  Speaker 1: just who they are and they're actually trying to be helpful.
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  Speaker 1: They don't realize how much they're stepping in it well.
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  Speaker 2: And I think the reality is for a lot of
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  Speaker 2: people being in each other's space in a really concentrated
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  Speaker 2: period with everybody involved can actually be overwhelming, and we
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  Speaker 2: say and do things that we wouldn't normally say and
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  Speaker 2: do because we're in that situation. But I think that
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  Speaker 2: you're right. It's a really hard one to do when
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  Speaker 2: you feel hurt by someone else. But if we can
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  Speaker 2: kind of just take a step back and recognize that
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  Speaker 2: they have a good heart.
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  Speaker 1: Well hopefully they do. My typical response will be shruggered off.
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  Speaker 1: But I think it's also important to just highlight if
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  Speaker 1: this is a person who is a repeat offender, if
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  Speaker 1: this is a person who is a needler and an antagonist,
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  Speaker 1: if this is a person who has created pain and
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  Speaker 1: difficulty and horrible stuff in your life over the years.
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  Speaker 1: It might also be appropriate to just say, actually, we're
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  Speaker 1: not going to do a family Christmas anymore. We'll have
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  Speaker 1: a phone call, but this year Christmas is kind of
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  Speaker 1: canceled for extended family. We're just having a Christmas together.
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  Speaker 1: I did that a few years ago, probably about ten
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  Speaker 1: or eleven years ago, with my extended family. So I'm
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  Speaker 1: the oldest of six kids, and you remember this. I
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  Speaker 1: rang mum and let her know, Hey, you know what
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  Speaker 1: our oldest child is now. I think our oldest was
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  Speaker 1: twelve even or twelve, we had five of our six
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  Speaker 1: children by then. I have one other sibling that had kids,
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  Speaker 1: but none of the other siblings had any children at all.
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  Speaker 1: And when I rang mom, I said, We're just going
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  Speaker 1: to have Christmas with our family this year. We might
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  Speaker 1: see you before or after, but Christmas Day it's going
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  Speaker 1: to be our family day. And a couple of my
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  Speaker 1: siblings found out, and they were incensed. What do you
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  Speaker 1: mean It's Christmas, We're supposed to be together. They couldn't comprehend.
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  Speaker 1: A couple of years ago, my little brother said to me,
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  Speaker 1: I was so upset. I was so offended when you
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  Speaker 1: did that. But now I've got three of my own children,
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  Speaker 1: and his oldest, I think is nine or ten, and
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  Speaker 1: he basically said, I don't want to get together for Christmas.
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  Speaker 1: I want it to be my family. Like things change,
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  Speaker 1: and so whether it's putting boundaries in place because you've
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  Speaker 1: been hurt, or putting boundaries in place just because your
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  Speaker 1: family needs it, it's okay to do that. We've got
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  Speaker 1: to give people a commission for that.
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  Speaker 2: Number five. Find ways to serve others. This is a
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  Speaker 2: favorite one in our home. We love this and Christmas
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  Speaker 2: time just provides a little bit bit more space for
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  Speaker 2: us to do it. But we love finding opportunities to serve.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I want to specifically highlight serve each other.
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  Speaker 1: So a wise mentor of mine once pointed out the
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  Speaker 1: bi directional relationship between love and service. He said to me,
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  Speaker 1: you'll find that the people that you love the most
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  Speaker 1: you want to serve. But the people that you serve
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  Speaker 1: the most, you tend to increase in love. For the
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  Speaker 1: more you do things for somebody, the more you actually
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  Speaker 1: love them. And I love that concept. I think that
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  Speaker 1: there's a wonderful opportunity for us at Christmas to find
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  Speaker 1: joy in serving our family. It might be just expressions
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  Speaker 1: of appreciation. It could be doing something really nice for them,
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  Speaker 1: doing things that bring you closer together, and doing it
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  Speaker 1: without an expectation, and you watch the way that it
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  Speaker 1: shifts your heart.
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  Speaker 2: When I saw this ninja come up on my screen
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  Speaker 2: the other day, I actually had this little thought because
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  Speaker 2: our kids love doing secret siblings.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, secret sisters.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they just what we call it sibling now because
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  Speaker 2: we've got a brother in law. That's right, they can't
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  Speaker 2: be sisters. He gets left out. And I was thinking
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  Speaker 2: about how we could extend on that because they just
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  Speaker 2: love they love doing the secret stuff and wondered whether
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  Speaker 2: or not secret sisters could extend for a few days
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  Speaker 2: and they have to try and do secret acts of
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  Speaker 2: service for each other and see who can do it
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  Speaker 2: without getting caught.
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  Speaker 1: Just something amazing about serving a family and bringing everyone together,
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  Speaker 1: and it can really lead into the sixth idea that
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to share, which is Christmas is a time
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  Speaker 1: for healing wounds. And healing wounds usually comes through offering forgiveness,
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  Speaker 1: It comes through saying sorry, It comes through service and
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  Speaker 1: going out of your way to lift help and be
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  Speaker 1: good to others. And I just I know that it's
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  Speaker 1: a sensitive thing for some. But if we can swallow
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  Speaker 1: our pride and acknowledge our faults and say sorry, if
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  Speaker 1: we can make unconditional apologies, that may actually be the
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  Speaker 1: best Christmas gift that we can give to our family.
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  Speaker 2: Well number seven was to serve a higher cause.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, we come together with a common purpose, especially
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  Speaker 1: one that's deep and meaningful to us, we can kind
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  Speaker 1: of forget about our petti grievances with one another, because
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  Speaker 1: families get caught up fighting about stuff that actually doesn't
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  Speaker 1: really matter that much quite often, and so in the
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  Speaker 1: webinar we talked about different ways that we can find
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  Speaker 1: something bigger than us and make a difference in our
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  Speaker 1: family and in families of those that we know. We've
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  Speaker 1: seen people use Christmas as a time to donate to
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  Speaker 1: a cause together or volunteer in the community. Some families
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  Speaker 1: choose to just work as a family to decorate their
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  Speaker 1: home and yard with Christmas lights, and that brings delight
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  Speaker 1: and joy to the neighborhood and everyone else from that
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  Speaker 1: local town or city where everyone drives past. U says, well,
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  Speaker 1: look at those lights. And of course, if you've got
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  Speaker 1: a faith background, once again, serve us through religious participation
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  Speaker 1: can also be really great in lifting lifting our sights
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  Speaker 1: to something much bigger than just our family and just ourselves.
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  Speaker 1: That can really bind families and strengthen relationships.
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  Speaker 2: Well, hopefully you found something that's helpful to help keep
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  Speaker 2: the cranks down this Christmas.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: And if you'd like more info, just jump onto Happy
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: Families dot com dot you. The webinar is called tis
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: the Season to be Cranky? How to handle in laws
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: and other grinches, And there's a whole lot more that
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: we've talked about in terms of navigating the trickiness of
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  Speaker 1: kids not wanting to play with their cousins or not
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: wanting to hang out with Gramma, Grandpa, or whatever it
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: might be the challenges around Christmas. It's all at Happy
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  Speaker 1: families dot com dot a you. The Happy Families podcast
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  Speaker 1: is produced by Justin Rulon from Bridge Media. Craig Bruce
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  Speaker 1: is our executive producer. We hope that this podcast will
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  Speaker 1: make your Christmas happier. Oh, by the way, something else
• 17:35
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• 17:38
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• 17:41
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• 17:44
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• 17:47
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