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Episode 543: Maggie Malone Hardin – Professional Javelin Thrower; 2024 US Olympic Trials Champion & Three Time Olympian! · I'll Have Another with Lindsey Hein Podcast

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This is a Sandy boy productions podcast.
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Hey everybody. Welcome to all have another podcast
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with Lindsay He.
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I'm your host, Lindsay. Thanks so much for
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joining me today.
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I am really excited to bring you another
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Olympia
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on the show,
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Maggie Malone who is heading to Paris
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to compete in the Ja throw for team
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Usa. Maggie is now a 3 time
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Maggie lives in Nebraska with her husband, Sam,
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who is her coach. She was the 20
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16 American National and C.
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Record holder and Nc
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division 1 champion.
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She
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through for Texas A and m University.
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She has a
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really amazing post
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trials
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interview. I think it was with Flo track
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that just sucked me in her passion for
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this sport.
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She talks about in that interview. Like, how
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many times she has thought she might quit
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the sport and the fact she's here for
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her third Olympic team is so incredible.
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Maggie talks a lot about her fate, which
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seems to be a trending topic in
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these post Olympic trials pre Olympic interviews with
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these athletes I've been talking to. I hope
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if nothing else, you all learn a little
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bit about the Ja throw in this episode.
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Let's give these field sports some love. We
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get into lots of different topics in this
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episode, and I love Maggie Spirit and
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energy and I cannot wait to cheer for
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her in paris. Go be Bold, Maggie. We
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Alright, friends Today, on the podcast. We have
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Ja Throw Maggie Malone on the show. Welcome
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to the show, Maggie. Hi, Lindsay. Thanks for
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having me. Thanks for coming on. You're my
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second Ja or I've interviewed. Oh okay. Who
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was the first?
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Kara Winger. Oh, of course. Yes. Of course.
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But, you know, I interviewed Cara, like, when
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after she announced her retirement. So it was
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fun to see her come out of your
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tire with this year. Yes. I know. It
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was so great. It's... I've said this so
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many times. She's so good for the sport
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and great for me. Like, she has been
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just the trail blazer and, has helped me
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accomplish what I've been able to accomplish. So
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she's she's the goat in my book.
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See, I love that. Like, I love that
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you're starting off this interview, cheering on another
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woman who has, like, helped pave the way.
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That's, like... And I was gonna ask you
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about Cara later in the episode. I didn't
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realize we'd get it brought up so early
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right away.
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She's so easy to brag about. Oh, I
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love it. Yeah. I was excited to see
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her come out of retirement. Yeah. But, yeah.
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I mean, I normally... I do focus on,
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like, marathon runners, and I do some track
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interviews too. Like, I'd I just had a
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400 meter runner on, But Okay. Dabbling in
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the in the field events. I think it's
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really fun too, and I think it's really
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important that
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we try to expand Yeah the athletes that
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were sharing about.
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Had. Yeah. I agree. I, you know, field
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events don't always get a lot of love.
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Unfortunately,
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even though I think that they're so amazing
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and like, the things that field of can
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do with their body, and I just think
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is incredible. So I love that you're kind
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of expanding to us as well and you
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know, especially with, you know, where track is
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heading maybe in the future who knows, I
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do think that we're getting more popularity the
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to the sports and especially around the Olympics
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and I think
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with,
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the, Michael Johnson League that's coming out, I
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think that is amazing for the sport.
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I do hope that they extended it to
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to field events. I, you know, I hope
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that that's part of the master plan because
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I think it would be great for this
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sport in general. And continue to elevate all
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of us,
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and not just make, you know, sprint and
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running events which are already heavily watched.
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And it's not putting them further
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or, I guess, it'd be farther from where
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field events are. And jobs it's just, like,
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visibility. So I I do hope that we
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just continue to press forward and
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we'll see maybe getting some hardware in in
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Paris will help.
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So,
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yeah,
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Trials champion, we're talking to. 3 time Olympia
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now,
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How does that feel?
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It's really surreal.
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I just...
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You know, I feel so grateful,
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and I've said this a couple times of,
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like, III truly did almost quit the sport
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many times. And and in 26 or 20
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17 after my first team, like, I walked
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away from it completely. I went through a
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lot of mental health just like, red discovery.
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And I started kind of my journey with
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therapy.
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And then for me, finding my faith has
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just been a huge part of me continuing
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to do this. And even in
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finding, you know, Who Jesus is and who
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he is to me and what he says
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about me. I feel like, I'm still had
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tension with the sport where it was, like,
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man, God, like,
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why did you
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give this to me? Like, why is this
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my path?
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And I feel like this is the first
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year
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that I have really stepped into, like, okay.
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Like, this is what I was made to
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do, and I truly believe that God, like,
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made me to throw the Ja and made
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this my path,
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and I feel like I've... I finally accepted
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that and also, not just accepted it, but,
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like, stepped powerfully into that and been, like,
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okay. Walk boldly in this. This is what
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you were made to do. And so I'm
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in that you can walk faithfully.
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And I think for a long time, I
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was like, man I was given this gift,
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but I'm kind of scared of it, which
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is weird to say, but it was, like,
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I don't... I was afraid to fail in
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a lot of ways, and I was like,
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what what is this? Like, what is tracking
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feel... This wasn't a sport that I or,
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like, a,
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professional, I put in quote sport that I
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in envision for myself. And so having to
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navigate that and having to navigate a lot
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of, like, bumps in the road.
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Is tough as we all do in the
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sport. So
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I really am grateful for it and to
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get to go 1 more time and to
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also be healthy is such a big thing,
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especially as a ja throw. Like, health is
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is
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really important. There's a lot of injuries that
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that come in this. And as you know,
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maybe talking to Care even. It's like, there's
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a lot of injury. And so I feel
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very blessed that I get to do this
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and
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and, yeah, just get... Got the countdown going
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now.
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It's kinda crazy to hear you say, like,
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after you became an Olympia in 20 16,
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that's when, like, the mental health struggles came
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and you were like, why am I even
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doing this? What is my purpose? Because A
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lot of times, like, the Olympics aren't such
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a pedestal that you're like, oh, I became
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an Olympia. I checked the box.
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And I think a part of it is
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that my husband and I were talking about
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this.
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When you...
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Okay. So to put my story in perspective,
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like, I started throwing Ja on basically in
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20 13, and I made the Olympic team
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in 20 16. So Wow. I was this
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wasn't something that I even knew existed to
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be quite honest. Like, yeah, I wasn't a
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kid that was like, I'm gonna be Olympia
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and, like, that was not my goal, my
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goal at the time was to be an
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all American 1 time. Mh. Like I went
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to college and I was like, if I
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can stick out
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4 years in d 1 athletics, and I
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could maybe get a a, you know, all
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American
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stamp on the chest 1 time,
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then I was gonna be so satisfied with
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that, and I knew in my head what
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the rest of my life was gonna look
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like.
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And
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obviously, it's like god just laughs this.
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So so to put that in respect 20
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13 to 20 16, And then to achieve
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something that is, you know,
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I watched... We've all watched the Olympics on
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Tv. And as a kid, you're, like,
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Wow. I,
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you know, those Olympia, like, they're on weed
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boxes. They
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the life has changed they're... Probably flying first
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ass everywhere, like, your life is totally different,
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and it could not be more opposite than
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that. Like, it truly is like, you you
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show up to the village, and I've always
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said this, like, I stayed at nicer places
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with my college team at Tech stadium, than
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I did at the olympic village. Like, wow.
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Let's just put that into perspective.
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And so
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I I think a part of that is,
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like, like Wow, God, Like, I thought my
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life was gonna change in a certain way,
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and it didn't. And now what does that
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mean? Because now there's, like this, like,
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am I supposed to keep doing this? Like,
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I just achieved the pinnacle and on top
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of that, I didn't perform well. So I
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achieved the pinnacle of success, and I didn't
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perform well now I feel like I failed
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publicly,
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and I'm in Room 3. I don't know
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if you know the room. So yeah it's,
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of course. Okay. So I'm the achieve, So,
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like, Failure is detrimental to us.
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We shame spiral as my boss say.
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And so I feel like all of that
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and figuring out, like, wow. This wasn't something
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that I had for myself.
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What does this mean now? And I think
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that's when a lot of the mental health
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stuff came in and I was like, do
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I wanna be doing this? Like, it... Do
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I have to do this? I feel like
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I have to do this?
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Like you have this gift, so you feel
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like you have to do it. You hit
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became an Olympia.
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Like, do you have to do it if
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you don't really wanna do it? And do
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I wanna do it? I don't know if
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I wanna do it? Yeah. So you had
10:21
mentioned, like, you knew what you wanted to
10:23
do with your life that you thought you
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knew what was gonna happen if you became
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all. Okay. What was it? What did you
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think you were gonna do? At the time.
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Yep. I thought that I was gonna go
10:32
work for a sports agency and... Okay I
10:35
would work in Texas, and
10:38
I would probably live in Dallas, and I
10:40
would work in either, like, P r work
10:43
as, like, an agent. Or alongside an the
10:45
agent, so that was kind of my goal
10:47
was still work that. There was a time
10:49
where I thought that I would work in
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college athletics
10:52
you could not pay me enough to work
10:53
really next right now. Absolutely not. It is
10:56
such a wild wild west. And just with
10:59
everything with N n now and but I
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I... The universities have to pay their athletes
11:04
now. It's just... It's crazy. It's such a
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different,
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landscape and what I grew up in personally.
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Like,
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I'm not a big fan of it personally,
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So I I just think it's it's hard.
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It's a really hard job right now. Yeah.
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I was thinking about that, Like... There are
11:23
pieces of the Stuff that I think are
11:25
really good, but then I'm like... I feel
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like there's some, like, entitlement there too. There
11:30
absolutely is. And I can say, like, I
11:33
have experienced that
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witnessing and talking to athletes that wanna go
11:38
to college for track, and it is a
11:40
a question. It's not the question of, like,
11:42
okay, at the time, at my time when
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I was competing, It was like,
11:46
man I'm grateful to be on this team
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and like, I'm looking at for the best
11:49
coach that could, like, get me the best,
11:52
like, the best that I could be. Yeah.
11:53
And now a lot of the tier tiers
11:56
are, like, how much can you pay me?
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Right. How much can you get me? Oh
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my gosh. Yes. And
12:02
and not only are college coaches having to
12:05
recruit new athletes, but they're having to recruit
12:07
their same athletes every year,
12:09
U. We'll just re recruit the because of
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the... Yeah. Yeah. Hundred percent. And so it's
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like, if they're not happy,
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then they're... They and they know that. Like,
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there's this, like, and I've seen it where
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it's like, hey, I want this.
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If you don't do that for me. That's
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okay. I'll to go transferred down the road.
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And it's it's kinda wild because, you know,
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when we think about it like that, it
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takes like the
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relationship. Hundred percent. Down a step.
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Yes. It
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Yes.
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I just saw yesterday. There was a breaking
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news. Let me see if I could pulled
12:40
it up, but it said, I think it
12:42
was from
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Espn.
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Me see. I'm gonna pull this up because
12:45
I wanna get it right. My massage therapist
12:48
sent it to me. You were talking about
12:50
it. Okay. This is from Espn Breaking news,
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Us appeals court,
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rules college athletes may qualify as employees
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deserving of pay under federal wage and our
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laws.
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So now you're an employee to
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the team to the university.
13:06
So then that begs the question of like,
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okay. Do you even have to go to
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school? Do you have to be mold? What...
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Like, and like, yeah, what... Where do academics
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come into play at all? What is the...
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Yeah. I don't know.
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And I also, like,
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I think that that will crush
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smaller schools. Like, if you can't can pay
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your athletes.
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Yeah. Yeah. And now you're room... So let's
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keep it layering.
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Now you're removing opportunity for maybe a family
13:32
that's never gone to college, but this was
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their opportunity to go to college, and this
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was their way to go to call. And
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now
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you're having to either cut those programs, which
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you're seeing. You're seeing that nationally. Mh. And
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And and, you know, it's, like this generational
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change. I... I'm not for it. Yeah. It's
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like it's kinda of the same thing as
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like, what's happening in the country 2. It's
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like, the Richard Richer and you poorly
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is happening. Yeah. And so now if I
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was an athlete,
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I mean, I wouldn't do this just because
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I... It's not how I operate, but, like,
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stepping into their mindset,
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looking at schools,
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I would go where the money is. Right?
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What's yeah. Like, if you are a star
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Athlete. Yes. Which is, like, the Sec probably.
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Yeah. So now those conferences in those schools
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are just gonna get, you know, because they
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have the money,
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you're gonna see a huge pendulum swing, maybe.
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This is just me, you know, I'm just
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talking here. I don't know. I can't see
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the future. But in my head, it's, like,
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you may see this big pendulum swing to
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those conferences
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because they have the money.
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And what's wild?
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Like, as I'm thinking this through as a
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parent with kids and sports and, like, seeing
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the absolute absurdity of travel sports and what
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you club seeing right now? I'm not. We
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don't do... We don't do travel sports. My
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oldest is 12. Okay. We... I mean, they
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do soccer programs, but they're in, like a
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step above a rec league, like, it's still
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parent coaches who are volunteers. Yeah. Yeah. I'm
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so against it, like, financially, also, like, time
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wise. I know. I can't... I'm not give
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that's just not how we're gonna spend our
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time as a family in the car. Yes.
15:12
You know, all of all things. But
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but to me, I'm thinking when I'm hearing
15:16
you say this, I'm like, oh my gosh
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These parents that are already investing all this
15:20
time and all this money just so they're
15:22
their kids first of all make the high
15:23
school team. I, that's what people are doing
15:25
now.
15:26
So their kids can make a high school
15:29
soccer team. They're spending
15:31
thousands of dollars.
15:33
Every season and Yes. Spending all of their
15:36
weekends on the road for Yes. Quite frankly,
15:39
mediocre kids to play soccer so they can
15:41
maybe make their high school team a hundred
15:43
percent. And so my question to you is,
15:46
okay, what was your background
15:49
and how did you get... How did you
15:51
get into,
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you know, athletics And how did you make
15:54
it to call it? Like, what was it
15:56
was it a coat that's saw you? Did
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you do development with, like, a small club,
16:00
like, what was your path
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compared to, like, what it is now?
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Well, I mean, I didn't I didn't do
16:05
athletics in college. Oh, okay. I thought you
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did in Indiana. Okay. Sorry. No. III went
16:10
to I.
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But okay. Gotcha. I, like, maybe could have
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walked on to a small team. You know?
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Yep.
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Yeah. Was gonna more like... It's so different
16:19
than that. Like, it's... My parents didn't pay...
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They couldn't afford it. Yeah. And I don't
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know, like... And again, like, you're gonna see
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fewer and fewer opportunities for families who can't
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afford it, but their kid is a stud
16:31
athlete.
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But now you barrier. Yeah. Yeah. That's the
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thing I feel like
16:38
at the end of the day, if your
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talent is really there. Yep.
16:43
You will rise, somebody will see you. Yes.
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If that will... That's how always work. Yeah.
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Yeah. The problem is is the kids that
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are, like, pretty good. It could be really
16:55
good, but then their parents can't afford like,
16:58
Yeah. What these higher income families can afford,
17:00
and that... Those are the people... It's, like
17:02
how the blue collar people always get lost.
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Right? Hundred percent. That's exactly what it is.
17:07
It's such a reflection or maybe even, like
17:09
a symptom of what kinda like the Us
17:12
or the economy is. And I just... I
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don't know. Like,
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you know, maybe the Us goes to a
17:18
club system in the future, it feels like
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that's where it's going. I don't want that
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personally because I think, like, high school pride,
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high school like, oh. Like just such a
17:28
beautiful season of life, and and
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be I know. It's so different. It's so
17:33
different than what clubs offer. And club systems
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are great. Like, obviously, Europe is doing great
17:37
with that. But I
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high school football games, high school basketball games,
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like, Amazing better. Amazing.
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Nothing better. It's all club now. It's I
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know. And 5 parents or coaches, and they
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say too, Like, they lose a lot of
17:52
those athletes to the club teams now.
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20:15
My husband and I, we do a lot
20:17
of, different training, so whether it's with Ja
20:19
or, like, speed agility, that kind of stuff,
20:21
and a lot of our parents have will
20:23
ask us if, you know, oh, should I
20:25
specialize my kid this year. And we are
20:27
always saying, like, absolutely not, like, it is
20:30
not good for your kid as an athlete.
20:32
The development that they will get for playing
20:34
different words is so much greater than just
20:38
throwing the Ja or just playing basketball, like,
20:41
that cross
20:43
kinda training is not only better for them
20:45
physically, but it's better for them, like, emotionally,
20:48
maybe they're not the best on that team
20:49
so they're having to navigate that. Like, there's
20:52
so many more benefits to doing multiple sports.
20:55
Yeah. Not to mention injury, like, you were
20:58
talking about injury with your Ja throwing earlier,
21:00
Like... And that's what I would say too.
21:02
Ja is not fun. Like, we're not playing
21:05
Ja. Yeah. It's next max effort throws. Okay?
21:08
So to go do something that is fun
21:11
is is, like, before I compete. Like, my
21:14
husband and I always do something fun. So
21:16
we'll play like light spice or like Volleyball
21:19
or something. Like, we have to do... You
21:20
gotta play. Like, you gotta bring some play
21:22
to it.
21:24
I love that that you even now. Like
21:26
you still do that. Mh. And I did,
21:29
you know, basically 4 sports. I did... I
21:31
was outside hundred volleyball as a point Garden
21:33
Bass of. I was a jumper in track,
21:35
and then I was a Ke and softball.
21:36
So, like, I was a different athlete every
21:39
season,
21:40
and I love that. Like, I can play
21:42
multiple sports and it's fun. It's fun to
21:44
go shoot around. It's fun to go, you
21:45
know,
21:47
go rally, you know, and volleyball. Like, it's
21:49
fun to do that kind of stuff.
21:51
Do you think there are certain sports though
21:53
that are more important to specialize early? I
21:56
always think about this like, a gymnastics. You
21:57
know what I mean?
21:59
I know these... I cannot speak to the
22:01
gym gymnastics
22:02
Clearly, they are specializing by age like 7.
22:05
0, you. 4 working for them. But also,
22:08
think about the the... That's the minority. Right?
22:11
Yeah. So, like, the minority is the group
22:13
that's going to make it to the Olympics,
22:15
which is the pinnacle of what they're doing.
22:16
K. So how many do they send, like,
22:18
6. Right.
22:20
So women, 6 girls in country. For the
22:24
whole country, they're going to go represent? So
22:27
in my head,
22:29
I would do multiple things. Yes.
22:33
Oh, hi gosh.
22:34
Speaking of sending 6. Mh. 3 Ja throw
22:39
get sent, and you're 1 of them, and
22:40
you you won the trials. I think just
22:43
2. Yeah. Just me for the women and
22:45
just, 1 for the men. Yeah. Really? Yeah.
22:49
To the Olympics? Yeah.
22:52
Tell me more.
22:54
Unless I'm wrong. I need to, like, fact
22:56
check it because I actually have not checked
22:57
so much.
22:58
This is... What's up with that? Is it...
23:00
That's not top 3?
23:02
So
23:02
the way that you can make it to
23:04
the Olympics is there's 2 reps. Yeah. 1
23:06
is by hitting your standard. Yeah. So that
23:09
is,
23:11
That is like, you know, you run a
23:12
certain time, you jump a certain distance, you
23:14
throw a certain distance, XYZ. Right. The other
23:18
way is the point system. So the point
23:21
system is you go to certain ranked meats.
23:24
So I could get as detailed as we
23:25
can into this, but it's really boring. But,
23:27
basically, there's, like, a level b level c
23:30
level needs, there's global meats. And based on
23:33
the type of meat, you get a certain
23:35
amount of points allotted to you based on
23:37
your performance. So if you win the meet
23:41
and you throw a distance, you'll get a
23:43
lot of points to your overall score.
23:46
You need 5 meats
23:48
to be considered to be in the top
23:50
32
23:51
in the world. So to have a world
23:53
ranking, you need to have 5
23:55
competitions.
23:56
And I believe I was the only person
23:59
that had the standard and was in the
24:01
top 32 and the same... Well, curtis Curtis
24:04
Thompson doesn't have a standard, but he's in
24:05
the top 32 based on his consistent performances.
24:09
Gotcha. Yeah. Okay. So had the other 2
24:12
women had this performance in 64, which was
24:14
what she was trying to do. She would
24:16
had the team. Yeah. Gotcha.
24:19
Yeah. Okay. Wow. Yeah. I mean, it's similar
24:21
to, like, in running, you have to hit
24:23
the standard or be world ranking. As you
24:26
think in the Us, like, oh, top 3
24:29
they're going, but... Yes. We keep finding out
24:31
time and time again. Oh, will this person
24:32
get to go because they don't have the
24:33
standard. So... Yeah. We're only sending to Ja
24:36
or or, Scott it. Yeah. Because I wanna
24:38
I mean, the women's and men's Ja standard
24:40
is absurd. Like, 6 4 meters is... I
24:43
think somebody told me this now. So fact
24:46
check me, but they said, like, I think
24:47
only 8 women actually have the standard in
24:50
the world.
24:51
Wow.
24:52
So it's really high.
24:54
So will the might be 8 of you
24:55
in the Olympics then?
24:57
So then they filled the rest with the
24:59
top 32 Ranking. Yeah. The ranking system. Yeah.
25:02
Wow.
25:02
Okay. So that is crazy too. The men's
25:04
is 85 meters like, that's
25:07
insanity. It's a crazy.
25:10
So what were you thinking
25:12
at the at the trials when you made
25:14
your throw?
25:15
Yeah. I... You know, for me, I had
25:17
really just been in a lot of prayer.
25:19
I read Sydney Mc la book. Luck and
25:22
I felt like that just like,
25:25
stirred something in my heart, and
25:28
it just...
25:29
I don't know. She's amazing. She's just done
25:31
so much and for the sport and just
25:33
listening to her and how she's navigated this.
25:36
And, you know, she... Her first team was
25:37
also real. And so a lot of what
25:40
she was sharing was the same as I
25:42
was experiencing.
25:43
And
25:44
just to be able to, like, walk through
25:46
that and hear her
25:48
experience helped me. And to hear how she
25:50
overcame fear, which was ultimately what had a
25:52
hold of my life was fear.
25:54
And
25:56
I just felt like I had been praying
25:57
for
25:58
you know, a month at that time, and
26:00
I had so many people praying for me,
26:01
and I just kept asking god for courage,
26:03
confidence and bold. Like, those are the 3
26:05
words that I just kept saying over myself.
26:07
Courage confidence and bold.
26:09
And I felt like that I totally... Like,
26:12
God just totally equipped me with that. And
26:14
I was like, alright, god. I trust you.
26:15
I know that I made to do this.
26:17
And I wanna execute for you.
26:19
And
26:21
so to be able to have had that
26:23
experience and to have that outcome, like, I
26:25
didn't know what the outcome was gonna be,
26:26
but I knew that I could control what
26:28
I could control, and I'm grateful. I'm so
26:31
grateful to have had the results that came
26:33
out of it.
26:35
What was the fear
26:36
fear failure you said earlier? Yeah. I would
26:39
just say
26:40
a lot of the fear stemmed from
26:43
disappointment in the disappointment that I had had
26:46
in my life and in my
26:48
career,
26:49
and a lot of it was, like, man,
26:51
God, can I even trust stew in this?
26:53
Like, Yeah. I feel like I put a
26:54
lot into this and the results haven't been
26:58
the what I wanted.
27:00
I'm really thankful for that. And I'm thankful
27:02
for those hard seasons because it has truly
27:04
prepared me for
27:06
what the next Olympics looks like for me
27:08
and
27:09
specifically,
27:10
I would used to really value a metal
27:12
and feel like that was going to bring
27:14
me satisfaction and worth, and I really don't
27:16
believe that anymore. Like, I I'm gonna go
27:19
to Paris and I wanna compete to the
27:20
best that I can, but I
27:23
don't need... I don't value the metal as
27:25
much as I used to. And
27:27
it would be amazing,
27:29
but I think for me, the reason I
27:32
do this is to let people know who
27:34
Jesus is. And that's why I do it,
27:36
and that's the importance to me. And so
27:39
I'm walking in what I was made to
27:41
do, and
27:43
I'm really happy and joyful about that. So
27:46
regardless of what happens,
27:49
I'm gonna do my best, and I'm just
27:50
gonna use the gifts that god gave me.
27:52
You said it along the way you found
27:53
your faith, but did you grow up with
27:55
a faith and then it you came back
27:57
to it? Yeah. I would say yes. I
27:59
definitely did. I grew up Catholic, and I
28:01
would say that I had a faith, but,
28:03
like, we... We were very Catholic. We went
28:04
to yeah, you know, church
28:06
on, you know, Wednesday nights and on Sundays
28:09
and, like, you know, all the holy days,
28:11
all the stuff. But I really didn't have
28:13
a relationship with Jesus.
28:15
And so I didn't know who he was.
28:17
There was no foundation for that. It was
28:19
very transactional.
28:21
And so when I look back, I I
28:23
know that I in my head,
28:26
if you go to church, if you do
28:27
the right things, if you, you know, be
28:29
the good catholic girl, then you will be
28:31
rewarded.
28:32
And that's how it was put into my
28:35
head. And so to then
28:39
do those things
28:40
and have a major failure
28:42
I was, like, what in the world. But
28:45
God, you totally
28:47
betrayed me. And so I think that really
28:50
sent me into and and
28:52
I really didn't know who jesus was. I
28:54
just was checking the boxes.
28:56
And thankfully,
28:57
I went to T, and I hadn't... You
29:00
incredible women and and men, but incredible people
29:03
around me that helped me with my journey
29:06
and and came alongside me when I was
29:08
making terrible decisions, and you know, just living
29:11
the college life that I out proud of.
29:13
And thankfully, they came around me and they
29:16
helped me through that. And I had so
29:17
many people in my community,
29:19
who have made me better and who have
29:21
led me. And
29:24
I'm just grateful for that for them, and
29:26
I hope that I can be that to
29:27
other people too,
29:28
And your husband is your coach. I assume
29:30
you guys walked that together. Hundred percent. Yep.
29:33
My husband's is my coach. He was my
29:35
teammate text. He threw Ja.
29:38
It was not on our,
29:40
you know, radar for him to coach me.
29:42
Yeah.
29:43
I had started a group in Birmingham,
29:46
and
29:47
Unfortunately, did not work out with that coach.
29:50
And it was honestly a really hard season.
29:52
It was really, really tough because I wanted
29:54
it to work out, and we loved Birmingham
29:56
and we loved
29:57
that time of our life,
30:00
but
30:01
it became pretty toxic to be fully transparent.
30:04
Mh. And
30:05
my husband then had to fill that role
30:08
because that coach chose not to coach me
30:10
anymore during an Olympic year.
30:12
Wow. And
30:15
so he really stepped into that role and
30:17
then from that point, you know, we've had
30:19
plans where it's like, okay. If we go
30:21
here and then, like, this this coach can
30:23
coach me and then it... Something happens and,
30:25
like, he has just had to kinda of
30:27
fill in.
30:28
And
30:29
I feel like we were finally like, okay,
30:31
God. Like, maybe he's meant to coach me.
30:34
Is that who's this?
30:36
And
30:37
It's been awesome. And he's been amazing and
30:40
help and just, like, knows how to work
30:42
with me that it's definitely... It's not perfect.
30:44
Me.
30:45
There are definitely times jazz home and we're
30:47
like, don't talk to me.
30:50
Sure. Yeah. Do not talk to me.
30:52
But you know, it's made our marriage stronger.
30:55
It has made our communication stronger, and, you
30:59
know, we trust each other. And I think
31:01
that has been the biggest blessing is that
31:04
I know that he's in my corner. He's
31:05
my rather die. And I'm the same for
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32:20
Alright. What everybody does not know is that
32:22
we are
32:24
recording this on a day 2. We had
32:26
some... Technical issues. So thanks for doing this,
32:29
Maggie. Yeah. No problem, Glad we could get
32:32
together again. It's all good. I'm I'm so
32:34
glad.
32:36
Okay. So
32:37
where were we even at? Let's see.
32:40
What does your life look like? No? So
32:43
we're recording this July fifteenth. Yep. Until the
32:47
Olympics. Yep.
32:48
So I am still working. I work at
32:52
the Foundation. So I work there,
32:55
starting at 8, I leave around, like, 03:34.
32:59
And then I train in the afternoon. So
33:01
I'll be doing that, and then I leave
33:03
for the London Diamond leak Diamond league on
33:06
Wednesday.
33:07
So was that the seventeenth?
33:09
And then I
33:11
will be going to Finland in doing a...
33:13
Basically, like, a small training camp until the
33:15
Olympics.
33:16
My husband's families from Finland, so we're gonna
33:18
go out there Train and
33:21
just get really
33:22
acclimated to the time zone, and then we'll
33:24
head over to,
33:26
Paris on the 20 eighth
33:29
Yep.
33:30
So
33:31
since we had a day, a couple days
33:33
in between when we originally recorded it now?
33:35
I decided to ask my husband and my
33:38
friend Carolyn. I was like, I was telling
33:40
them, like, I I interviewed Ja thorough. She's
33:43
going to Olympics, and I said, how much
33:44
do you think? A Ja weighs. Oh, good
33:47
question. Mh.
33:49
My husband said 25 pounds. 000.
33:55
My shoulder hurts thinking about it.
33:58
And I think my friend said, like, 25
34:01
3 or something... I know. I... Like, they
34:02
just had... That's what I'm saying though, like,
34:04
when we talked about this. Like, that people
34:06
just have no idea. No. They have no
34:08
idea. It's super light. Psa, it's a very
34:10
light object.
34:12
Oh, my gosh.
34:14
Okay. So what we do at the end
34:16
of the podcast is we wrap up with
34:18
into podcast questions. And so,
34:21
we'll start with this. What is something
34:24
professionally or personally you would like to do
34:26
that you have not done yet.
34:28
Oh,
34:30
Great question.
34:32
I
34:33
would like to change some things as part
34:37
of Us o pc
34:39
law.
34:40
I tease that a little bit.
34:43
Yeah. I am going to hopefully be working
34:46
with some much smarter people than me to
34:49
help
34:50
advocate for athletes a little bit more. Oh.
34:53
And their support.
34:54
Do we get any more insight at all?
34:57
I can't right now But what is your,
34:59
like, passion, like, tell us where your passion
35:01
for that comes from? My passion for that
35:03
is that
35:05
I would say is very similar to N
35:06
n,
35:08
to the college athlete.
35:10
And I think that that has created a
35:12
little more of a precedent
35:14
to
35:15
professional athletes
35:18
Olympic athletes are, like, heavily restricted
35:20
especially during the Olympics on what they can
35:23
and cannot promote. And this is the time
35:26
where athletes can,
35:28
you know, support themselves. I'll, there's not a
35:30
lot of funding in this, and,
35:32
you know, personal sponsorship through, you know, a
35:35
small mom and pop you know, store in
35:38
Nebraska or in Texas,
35:40
people wanna support you, and
35:42
this is when visibility happens. And unfortunately, we
35:45
can't do some of that
35:47
because of different restrictions that were passed in,
35:49
like, 19 78.
35:51
Wow.
35:52
Well, I love that you're... I love that
35:54
you're getting behind it. And let you... Because
35:56
know, we can talk about being annoyed about
35:58
things and talk about how frustrating is, but,
36:00
like, yeah. You're doing something. And also, I
36:04
and we'll be very honest. Like, it it
36:06
feels scary only in the sense of, like,
36:09
I would never want some a
36:11
retaliation.
36:12
From
36:13
O pc or anything because the only reason
36:15
I'm doing it is to
36:17
help the betterment of
36:19
athletes to continue to do these sports.
36:22
Mh. And if there is no financial
36:25
support,
36:26
then
36:27
the the...
36:29
It's gonna die. People more we need to
36:31
do this? Because why would you why would
36:33
you put yourself through this
36:35
and achieve the high honor and then also...
36:38
Like, my Friend brooke Anderson. She worked at
36:39
Chipotle for years. She's a world champion.
36:42
Wow. A world champion.
36:45
It's unbelievable. Yeah. So to me, it's... My
36:50
fear is, like a retaliation of some sort
36:52
of, like,
36:53
who knows? You know, like, I would never
36:56
want, like,
36:57
the... I'm just hype hypo here, but just
37:00
like, what if they control like, you saw
37:03
of some sort and, a positive drug test
37:05
comes up. Like, yeah, that would quiet someone
37:07
real quick because all of sudden older they're
37:09
they're a dirty athlete.
37:10
And maybe they're not. And, you know, I'm
37:13
just... That's where my head goes on it.
37:15
I could be conspiracy theory 10 ad here,
37:18
but
37:19
I... My passion is to continue to help
37:21
athletes, and I want to
37:24
educate myself as much as I can too,
37:25
and that's what I'm trying to do.
37:28
Love it.
37:29
Okay. Little more light lighthearted? K. What's the
37:32
best most recent book you've read?
37:36
To be honest, I'm not a read it.
37:40
But
37:43
I mean, does the Bible count? Like, you're
37:45
in day.
37:47
What are... What are you reading right now
37:49
in the bible? Right now Going through the
37:50
new testament,
37:51
and I am am. I just... I'm I'm
37:54
getting into first Corinthians. So
37:57
I'm in acts right now. So talking through
38:00
just paul's kind of, and going through all
38:03
the cities and he's evan
38:05
and it's been really cool and just to
38:07
hear, like,
38:09
like, the the church as it's getting established.
38:11
Like, how it was established and, like, the
38:14
people and the players of the game that
38:16
were really influencing that. And just like,
38:19
You know... Humanity doesn't change. You know, things
38:21
that are, like, happening then. You're like, yeah.
38:23
We do that now too. Yeah. We suck.
38:26
Yeah.
38:29
Oh, but it... It's just really good. So...
38:31
Mh.
38:33
It sounds better than the part of the
38:35
bible that I'm reading right now is it's
38:37
first... Samuel, and it's not super interesting.
38:41
Yeah. The old testament is just sometimes
38:45
a grind to get through. I'm dead set.
38:48
I'm reading the whole thing, and I.
38:50
Yeah are you doing a program? Because, the
38:53
Bible recap is my favorite if you've never
38:55
I've been I've been listening to that Charlie
38:56
Cobb. Yeah.
38:58
That. She's amazing. It, like, really opened my
39:02
eyes to understanding the Bible so much better.
39:04
More? Yeah.
39:06
And it makes it more interesting to too
39:07
because I could read something and I'm like,
39:09
what did I just read? And I'm like,
39:11
this is crazy.
39:13
Like no. Also I'm like, it did that...
39:16
That
39:17
not real. I like to that happen.
39:19
It's it's
39:20
Not. I know the older I get them
39:22
more. I'm just, like,
39:24
you just... I just have to come to
39:26
the... I love that. I just have to
39:28
come to the fact. Like, I'm never gonna
39:30
fully understand. I never gonna fully understand it.
39:33
And also, like, that's faith and trust of
39:35
just being, like, god, Like, it's your your
39:37
word. And
39:39
But, like, also,
39:41
the... Like, that's why I love listening to
39:43
different pastors too. 1 of my favorite is
39:45
Jonathan Ba. He's a pastor in Texas.
39:47
Okay. And he is so
39:49
great at teaching and just, like, so relatable.
39:52
He's great with young adults.
39:54
And, you know, people with families too, but
39:57
he brings such a real to it where
39:59
you're like,
40:00
okay. Like,
40:02
that's he... Saying it in layman's terms and
40:04
it kinda hits you between the eyes with
40:06
it. And you're like,
40:07
okay. I needed to see that. And it's...
40:09
He's not stopped, and I really appreciate that.
40:13
Good. Okay. I have to look him up
40:14
I've never heard of him. But I would,
40:16
I'm gonna add 1 more book, because I
40:17
did finish this 1. I should have said
40:19
this. But Sydney, Mc molecular Book regular trials.
40:22
I had mentioned it. It is a very
40:24
good book beyond Gold, I think. Yeah. I
40:26
need to read that. Highly recommend. I I
40:28
am also an audiobook. So. Spotify audiobook. That's
40:32
what I did it on. It's in her
40:33
voice, which is really great.
40:35
So I enjoyed that.
40:38
I love an audio for books like that.
40:40
Like, especially if it's, like, some sort of,
40:42
like, auto
40:43
type? Yes. Book. Yeah.
40:45
You get a little bit more of just
40:47
like their...
40:48
Like, you could read something and your inflection,
40:51
but hearing, like theirs... And where they put,
40:53
you know, different pauses or something on you're
40:55
like, U. Oh, got it. Like, that was
40:57
important to them, or that's how they are
41:00
interpreting this. It really good. Totally. Mh. I
41:03
finally just read the and gale which has
41:04
been recommended so many times on the process.
41:07
Have you read That? I have not but
41:09
my sister recommended the same thing. So I
41:10
don't know why. What's the? Everybody's obsessed with
41:13
it. It's World war 2 and... Okay. The
41:15
main... 1 of the main characters is, like,
41:17
she's someone that helps, like,
41:19
fighter pilots who went down, get to safety
41:21
and Yep.
41:23
I've... I stayed up till 12:30 last night
41:25
reading this book. So it's like, I have
41:27
to finish it. Yeah. Wow Good. Okay. Maybe
41:30
I'll go to... Preston Hannah. A lot of
41:32
my work friends and gals. They are in
41:35
this, like, what is it? Like, something
41:37
thrones or, like, oh,
41:40
I think I know what 4 not and...
41:43
Yes. Yes.
41:44
They are, like, all... And already talks about
41:46
that. Laura the worlds and they intersect and.
41:50
That sounds. I don't know know if I
41:52
could take commitment.
41:53
Yeah. I don't know. I have a hard
41:55
time with, like, the
41:57
acting the extra stuff, Like... Yeah. I mean
41:59
I and. There's, like, yeah. Books. I could
42:01
be exaggerating, but I'm pretty sure there's, like,
42:04
15 books that all inter locked and there's,
42:05
like, this whole reading plan. My trend chandler
42:08
literally read all of them within, like, a
42:11
month. So they have to be good. Everybody's
42:13
talking about them. Yes. They have to be
42:15
good. I mean, people at my work or,
42:16
like, Maggie. And I'm like, I'm not a
42:18
reader. Okay?
42:20
And I don't know the movie. Yeah. And
42:22
would that be grilled or on audio.
42:25
I know. Maybe they're bad do they're thick.
42:29
Yeah.
42:30
I mean, I did get, like, when we're
42:32
talking about, like,
42:33
what do you call that? Like... What it...
42:35
Is it Sci or what is that kind
42:37
of Fantasy?
42:38
Fantasy? I mean, I did, like, back in
42:40
the it into the hun games. I really
42:42
potter with my kids.
42:44
Yeah. Yeah. My husband and I are currently
42:46
going through audiobook of Harry Potter when we
42:49
go to sleep. Dig mh. Audiobook book that
42:51
for 30 minutes, and then we falsely asleep
42:53
to it. What are you what are you
42:54
on me to start? We're on chamber... Or
42:56
on,
42:57
Sorcerer stone. Yeah. Okay. Yep. I think we've
43:00
read the 3 book. 3 of them, and
43:02
we, like, taken a pause. It just makes
43:04
you... I'm, like, oh, This is so good.
43:07
The detail in it in the story is
43:09
just so good. Yeah.
43:11
Okay. Anything you're watching or excited about, like,
43:15
to zone out? Watch Sprinter. Sprinter was fantastic.
43:19
U. Or Sprint. Sorry. Not Sprinter. I keep
43:21
saying Sprinter because that was somebody at work
43:23
her son kept saying that. Are you with
43:25
Winter?
43:26
It's like, no honey.
43:29
Not.
43:30
But, yes, Sprint really good.
43:33
We just... We're currently in Dc dallas cowboy
43:36
cheerleader thing. Really good.
43:39
Receiver really good. Obviously, you can see a
43:41
theme here of what I mean interested is
43:42
it.
43:44
My boys are watching receiver right now, and
43:47
I was like, guys. You can watch Sprint
43:49
with me. Like, this is a sports because
43:51
they love Quarterback. I love all the.
43:53
You'll love it, but they're like I wanna
43:55
watch it.
43:56
Blame for some. I know. They're really into
43:58
the soccer stuff going on right now. So...
44:00
Yeah. That too. Yep. Yeah I just felt
44:03
like Sprint did such a great job of
44:05
telling the stories, and that's what's great about
44:06
Trek field are the stories and the behind
44:08
the scenes. And you know, selfish officially, the
44:11
1 thing I would have liked to see
44:12
more of is, like, the behind the scenes
44:14
of their training. Yeah.
44:16
Because I mean, just as, like, a athlete.
44:19
I'm like, I felt, like, quarterback did a
44:21
really good job that with Patrick Mah homes.
44:23
Oh, yeah. And I just was like, man,
44:25
I wanna see, like, what No allowances is,
44:28
like, training looks like? Like, how does she
44:30
carry train? What do they think about focus
44:31
on? So maybe season 2, but I really
44:34
liked it. Yeah. It's really good. And we
44:36
free call for throw, hopefully. Yeah. Right?
44:40
And that's what they need to call it
44:41
Throughout. Yeah. Right Right? Come on.
44:44
I love it. Or what would they call
44:46
it field? Because you wanna get, like, the
44:47
pole vault
44:49
more just like the forgotten sports. These the
44:51
forgotten events.
44:54
Yes. The ones we need to give more
44:57
attention to to... We love the ones yes.
44:59
Love yeah. Mh.
45:01
Do you have a nonprofit You would like
45:03
to highlight or support tell
45:05
foundation, I... We give to Tint.
45:07
They do amazing work. Not only, like, ministry.
45:10
They do work with,
45:12
special needs. And then most specifically, they do
45:14
work around,
45:16
child rescue from,
45:18
really, really bad situations of, like, sexual prostitution
45:22
and all that sort of stuff, They're amazing.
45:24
They do really great work, Highly recommend. Oh,
45:27
that's awesome. I listened to him on... I
45:29
think he was on Annie Downs pot. Cast.
45:30
I to that. Do you listen to love
45:32
podcast? Love any Downs. Yeah.
45:35
Read all her books in college because I
45:37
yeah I'm really with my life? U.
45:41
Yeah. I was I was listening to her
45:42
today, and she's said she's in New York
45:45
for the summer to make she's Yeah. Yeah.
45:47
She's in New york for the summer that's
45:48
where she does her, like, kinda, like, sunday...
45:50
Or
45:51
summer sabbath? U. That really great 1 is,
45:55
do you listen to Jenny Allen at all?
45:57
Kinda I have read... I read 1 of
45:59
her books. Okay.
46:00
I forget which 1 it was. Her podcast
46:02
is great too I think it's called Made
46:03
for this. Yeah. Yeah Yeah. He brings great.
46:06
People on. Another awesome nonprofit organization is called,
46:11
god behind bars, I think, and she had
46:13
them on. And
46:15
it's you know, prison ministry. Okay.
46:18
Unbelievable work and just, like, unbelievable of,
46:21
like, how the spirit is, like, moving in
46:24
these faces.
46:26
Yeah. I think it's called God behind bars.
46:27
It's incredible. So my hope at some point,
46:30
I'm, like, how can I get involved with
46:32
them? Yeah. Whether I mean, obviously, you can
46:34
give financially, been like, that would be really
46:36
fun for me to, like, work with them
46:39
in some capacity. Yeah. Like, give your time
46:41
as Yes. Give my time. Yep. Yeah.
46:45
Well, what is your last message to leave
46:46
with our audience today?
46:49
My last message would be...
46:52
I would just... Ask for prayer through these
46:55
upcoming weeks, not just for me, but of
46:56
all athletes.
46:59
I just think that
47:01
everybody that is in the situation going to
47:03
the Olympics This is a dream of theirs,
47:04
and they've worked really hard. And so just
47:06
for continued safety. And
47:09
unity, you know, just
47:11
overall, like, just for for peace, I think
47:14
in the world too, especially just, like, coming
47:16
off of what this weekend was.
47:19
So I would just say continue to pray
47:21
for, like, peace and health and safety,
47:24
and then
47:26
you know, support us, keep supporting us.
47:29
Thank you so much, Maggie. Yeah. Thank you.
47:33
Thanks so much everybody for joining us today.
47:35
Thanks Maggie for joining the podcast. We are
47:37
so excited to cheer you on in Paris
47:40
what an honor to have you on the
47:41
show. You all can follow Maggie on Instagram.
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48:01
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48:03
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48:05
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48:07
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