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Listener Mailbag August 2025 · Girls Gone Hallmark | Hallmark Movie Reviews

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  Speaker 1: This is a Bramble Jam podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to Girls Gone Hallmark, a Homewark review podcast. I'm
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  Speaker 2: Megan and I'm a longtime Hallmark fan.
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  Speaker 3: I'm Wendy.
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  Speaker 4: I'm a former Hamewark hater.
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  Speaker 2: We're back with one of your favorite regular episodes, and
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  Speaker 2: that is our Listener Mailbag episode where we are reading
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  Speaker 2: your thoughts, your opinions, your questions, your feedback set to us.
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  Speaker 2: If you want to participate in the future Listener Mailbag.
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  Speaker 3: Episode, there's two ways you can do it.
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  Speaker 2: You can email us Girls go on Hamewark at gmail
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  Speaker 2: dot com, or you can drop us a voice message.
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  Speaker 2: Our phone number is nine four nine three two nine
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  Speaker 2: eight zero nine zero.
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  Speaker 3: We do have a voice message to read this week.
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  Speaker 2: We'd love to hear more voice messages from you, so
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  Speaker 2: drop us.
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  Speaker 3: Your thoughts on the Chicken Sisters.
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  Speaker 2: Those reviews are coming and I think I think we
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  Speaker 2: might get some mixed reviews. There's not a single Chicken
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  Speaker 2: Sister thought in this episode, but I'd like to hear
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  Speaker 2: what the people are thinking.
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  Speaker 4: I think the people are thinking the same thing.
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  Speaker 1: I am.
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  Speaker 3: Also coming up on Hallmark. We have the Groomsmen. Would
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  Speaker 3: love to hear your.
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  Speaker 2: Thoughts on that and yeah, rapid fire barrage of countdown
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  Speaker 2: to Christmas news that we are getting ahead of the
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  Speaker 2: official announcements. I did see in our Facebook group somebody
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  Speaker 2: was upset that September was full of, not full of.
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  Speaker 3: It is three weeks of.
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  Speaker 4: The Groomsman movies, and I think this person is maybe
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  Speaker 4: only upset because they had Homer Plus and sure one
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  Speaker 4: have already seen these movies when they premiered last summer
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  Speaker 4: last fall, So for them it's like, yeah, oh yeah,
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  Speaker 4: three weeks, that's no new movies. But I think there's
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  Speaker 4: a whole lot of people who haven't seen these movies,
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  Speaker 4: so yeah, for them, I remember those being very enjoyable.
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  Speaker 2: We're glad that they're making it their way to Hallmark Channel,
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  Speaker 2: if I understand both sides right, Like, you're like, I
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  Speaker 2: paid for both of these services, and now it's not
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  Speaker 2: really working out the way that it was promised. I
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  Speaker 2: was saying to someone earlier today. Hallmark Plus now is
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  Speaker 2: what I think Hallmark Plus should have always been, you know,
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  Speaker 2: a dupe for the Hallmark Channel. Trying to make them
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  Speaker 2: two separate products never really made sense.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but you could see what they were trying to do.
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  Speaker 2: Though, right, Yeah, you could see what they were trying
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  Speaker 2: to do and it didn't work out, so they had
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  Speaker 2: to recoup all that money post these movies on in
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  Speaker 2: these series on the main channel and course correct.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but this is this has got to be the it.
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  Speaker 4: Except for Finding Mister Christmas is the only other series
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  Speaker 4: I think, like series of movies or new movies that
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  Speaker 4: went directly to Hallmark plus us. I think that's the
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  Speaker 4: only other project that remains not have aired on Hallmark Channel.
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  Speaker 2: Yet except for some of the reality series, right like
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  Speaker 2: Ashley will reality series was only.
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  Speaker 3: A homework Plus We've got Marlan's.
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  Speaker 2: Reality series, Wes Brown's reality series. I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: those will ever see the light of day on Hallmark.
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  Speaker 3: They might.
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  Speaker 2: I mean I could see Wes Brown's coming out on
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  Speaker 2: Homewark because during the holiday season and in short, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it was only three episodes filler, this isn't a Homemark
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  Speaker 2: headlines episode.
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  Speaker 3: But I'm very curious what.
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  Speaker 4: The countday of Christmas Sason is going to look like. Oh,
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  Speaker 4: we already talked about it. You and I off off
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  Speaker 4: Mike with our our predictions. I don't want to say
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  Speaker 4: them publicly yet because they tend to be wrong. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: so I don't want anybody to pick up and run
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  Speaker 4: with that when I, you know, declare that I think
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  Speaker 4: they're gonna have less than forty movies.
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  Speaker 3: But who knows? Who knows? Well, let's jump into these emails, Okay.
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  Speaker 4: Our first email is from Mary Ann. This email includes
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  Speaker 4: some feedback on our mystery one oh one, But this
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  Speaker 4: is what we wanted to read from her email because
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  Speaker 4: we both got a good laugh at it. I think
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  Speaker 4: she writes she was curious about the origin of our
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  Speaker 4: podcast name and says and then finally, I'm curious why
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  Speaker 4: you decided to go with the name for your podcast,
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  Speaker 4: Girl's Gone Hallmark. The name is reminiscent of a show
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  Speaker 4: called Girls Gone Wild.
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  Speaker 3: And wasn't that show.
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  Speaker 4: About women getting paid to take off their shirts and
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  Speaker 4: show their bodies, their boties, their bodies, et cetera. I
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  Speaker 4: never watched the show, but it kind of seemed objectifying
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  Speaker 4: to women and degrading. Every time I saw clips or
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  Speaker 4: commercials for that show back in the day, it made
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  Speaker 4: me want a barf. There's this one other org that's
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  Speaker 4: done a riff off and the title is called Girls
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  Speaker 4: Gone Bible. That's a podcast, right, Girls Gone Bible. Again,
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  Speaker 4: a strange choice given the show's content. But maybe there's
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  Speaker 4: something I don't know about the show. I'm very curious
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  Speaker 4: why you chose the name.
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  Speaker 2: Well, all credit goes to Wendy on that one.
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  Speaker 1: Nah put it on me.
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  Speaker 2: Huh, well you didn't you. I'm fairly certain you named
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  Speaker 2: Girls Gone Homewark.
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  Speaker 4: Girl's Gone Disney king Walker, so Girls Gone Homark could run. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it's a riff off of Girls Gone Wild. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: not like consciously though. I just think it's a funny,
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  Speaker 4: tongue in cheek, funny name.
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  Speaker 3: That's all I agree. It was just meant to be fun.
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  Speaker 3: I just looked it up.
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  Speaker 2: There was a expose Girl's Gone Wild, the Untold Story.
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  Speaker 2: It was on Peacock. I haven't looked now to see
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  Speaker 2: if it still is. I assume it is. But Girls
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  Speaker 2: Gone Wild existed for fifteen years.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you should explain what Girl's Gone Wild?
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  Speaker 3: What I mean?
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  Speaker 4: I don't even know. Actually, I just remember the Infra
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  Speaker 4: marshals for it.
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  Speaker 3: Think spring break videos, girls flash guys from their speedboats
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  Speaker 3: that lake have as Yeah, that about sums it up.
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  Speaker 2: I think they were like videos and DVDs that you
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  Speaker 2: could order basically in the.
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  Speaker 4: Age Creepee dues Creepy Doo's ordering like, yeah, that's gross.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, the series did go bankrupt in twenty thirteen, so yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's not meant to be related.
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  Speaker 3: No, don't fight any reads. We just thought it was
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  Speaker 3: a fun name. That's what it comes down to.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Next up, we have an email from Lance.
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  Speaker 2: Lance says what I think many of you think. He says,
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  Speaker 2: I'm assuming I'm not the only one that, while listening
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  Speaker 2: to a mailbag episode thinks of several things I want
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  Speaker 2: to send in as an email, but never actually do
• 6:38
  Speaker 2: it when I get to the computer. I'm usually listening
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  Speaker 2: while walking the dogs, and he attaches a picture of
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  Speaker 2: Share and George his pups. He says, I want to
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  Speaker 2: share how much I can relate to the idea of
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  Speaker 2: wrestling with the issue of celebrities, including Hallmark stars, being
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  Speaker 2: people outside of their fictional characters, who I may or
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  Speaker 2: may not actually like. Often I discover shows because I
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  Speaker 2: know I like some thing about a specific celebrity already,
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  Speaker 2: so I want to see the new thing they are in.
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  Speaker 2: Other times, I'm hesitant to watch something I know I
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  Speaker 2: would probably like because I'm troubled by actions that celebrity
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  Speaker 2: has made and been very public about. You've often talked
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  Speaker 2: about Jill Wagner, and I wanted to share a story
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  Speaker 2: about her and a connection to Holland Roadent. He goes
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  Speaker 2: on to say, I completely empathize with the quandary of
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  Speaker 2: her and GHAK.
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  Speaker 3: I don't watch.
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  Speaker 2: Anything on there either and have been comfortable boycotting Candace
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  Speaker 2: and Danica. My story about Jill, though, is her connection
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  Speaker 2: to Holland Roaden, the rising superstar of Hallmark, starring in
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  Speaker 2: the upcoming Bill's Football movie. They were both on a
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  Speaker 2: teenage Werewolf series. I really liked, He comments, I have
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  Speaker 2: the TV viewing habits of an adolescent female. Holland had
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  Speaker 2: a Rewatch podcast about the show a few years ago
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  Speaker 2: that I really liked, and her episode with Jill.
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  Speaker 3: Could be worth you listening to.
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  Speaker 2: They did talk about Hallmark a little, but much of
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  Speaker 2: it was about the in development show Lioness.
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  Speaker 3: I did not know if he knew.
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  Speaker 2: That show was created by Jill and her husband based
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  Speaker 2: on his experiences in the military. It certainly gives a
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  Speaker 2: different view of her as a person. To hear her
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  Speaker 2: tell that story. He leaves a link to that podcast,
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  Speaker 2: which we can share in our show. I think that
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  Speaker 2: is a line that I'm not perfect about walking. When
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  Speaker 2: I find out a music artist or someone in movies
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  Speaker 2: I like her TV shows or the creator of this
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  Speaker 2: or that behaves in the way that I don't like,
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  Speaker 2: and it's for me. Sometimes it's hard to figure out
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  Speaker 2: where the line is. A lot of people have reached
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  Speaker 2: out about Jill Wagner especially and have suggested that maybe
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  Speaker 2: her being on Great American Family doesn't fully align with
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  Speaker 2: who she is as a person, which I hope is true.
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  Speaker 3: What are your thoughts.
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  Speaker 4: It's a hard line to toe because there are certain
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  Speaker 4: let me just be frank about Jill Wagner. Yes, going
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  Speaker 4: into reviewing Miss Ray one on one, I was like,
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  Speaker 4: I don't I'm not really looking forward to this because
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  Speaker 4: of some things she has been outspoken about. Then I
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  Speaker 4: watch Miss Ray one one and I'm like, I really
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  Speaker 4: enjoy her as an actor, Like she's really good. And
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  Speaker 4: now I'm having a harder time trying to deal with
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  Speaker 4: those feelings like and honestly, like, there are bigger things
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  Speaker 4: in the world or even in just my life, I
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  Speaker 4: should be worried about more than sharing about uh, consuming
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  Speaker 4: entertainment from somebody who does not lean the same way
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  Speaker 4: I do.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, but that is I feel slope right. It's
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  Speaker 3: like the Michael Jackson of it, all.
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  Speaker 4: Right, Yes, yes, that's a great example, you know so,
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  Speaker 4: which is a very different thing from what we're dealing
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  Speaker 4: with with the actors that work with this other network.
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  Speaker 3: But it's you know, at some point you got to
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  Speaker 3: draw the line, and.
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  Speaker 4: Part of me kind of want to go back to
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  Speaker 4: a world where I didn't know these details.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Yes, great points on the one hand, like
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  Speaker 2: ignorance is bliss on the other hand, and not speaking
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  Speaker 2: about Jill, but if someone's a hateful person behind the scenes,
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to actually support that. It's it's not
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  Speaker 2: a perfect system.
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  Speaker 1: No, it's not.
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  Speaker 4: Paula writes in Hi, it's been a while. You may
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  Speaker 4: wish it's been a while longer. After this email, which
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  Speaker 4: it gives me a good chuckle, Paula Pala, I welcome.
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  Speaker 3: Paula's emails anytime, totally right.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, Paula even made our It was Always You
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  Speaker 4: Live podcast.
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  Speaker 2: In d there's an email pad leader in this episode.
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  Speaker 4: Oh even great, She writes, I don't understand the appeal
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  Speaker 4: of Providence Falls, It's mostly a typical mystery movie, and
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  Speaker 4: I'm not a big fan of those, so I won't
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  Speaker 4: talk about that. As to the romance, why pick sides,
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  Speaker 4: it seems so obvious that Liam will become the good
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  Speaker 4: person that she needs to be for Cora to do
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  Speaker 4: her second chances thing. My biggest problem is the idea
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  Speaker 4: of predestination. The whole setup of overturning lives for Coora
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  Speaker 4: to do her good works.
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  Speaker 3: Just doesn't make sense. Why Cora.
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  Speaker 4: I'm hoping that free will wins out, that this is
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  Speaker 4: some sort of except I'm our episode of Providence Falls.
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  Speaker 4: The last movie came out yesterday. While I didn't think
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  Speaker 4: it was perfect, still super enjoyable for me. I know
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  Speaker 4: you liked it a lot.
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  Speaker 3: I wish Paula would.
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  Speaker 4: Give it another chance, because a second chance if you will.
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  Speaker 3: I it's just one of.
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  Speaker 4: Those It's one of those Hallmark projects that is different,
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  Speaker 4: and I think you just got to like go with it.
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  Speaker 3: It's I said it yesterday. You can go listen.
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  Speaker 2: The acting is on a higher level, the production value
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  Speaker 2: was on the higher level. If perhaps the story with
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  Speaker 2: the angels. I had issues with the predestination of it too,
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  Speaker 2: I spent two whole episodes talking about the idea of
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  Speaker 2: destiny and did they really understand what that meant? Or
• 11:45
  Speaker 2: did I not understand what that meant? But I think
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  Speaker 2: to me it is a high quality project. Whether or
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  Speaker 2: not you're into the story, I think that's worth acknowledging.
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  Speaker 2: But as I said, you know, the story's not for everyone,
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  Speaker 2: but I do think it's well done.
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  Speaker 4: I think so too.
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  Speaker 2: Watch for Katie Stevens and Evan Roderick and Maddie Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean watch for these guys.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, before we move on, Paula did. Paula was
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  Speaker 4: at our Facebook group when we had a conversation about
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  Speaker 4: the actors Jen Lily, and I don't remember totally the
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  Speaker 4: context or what my response was. It was just like,
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  Speaker 4: I don't miss her on Hallmark, and Paula wanted to
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  Speaker 4: know why.
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  Speaker 2: I think there was a conversation about her returning, oh
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  Speaker 2: to Hallmark, Yeah, and I was yeah, and was my
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  Speaker 2: disappointment just just evant, like.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, she wants to know what my why? I have
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  Speaker 4: an anti jin Lilly stance, And all I can say
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  Speaker 4: is rewind about two minutes and listen.
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  Speaker 3: To our Jill Wagner.
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  Speaker 4: Indeed, but that's all I want to say about it.
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  Speaker 4: I guess yeah, which is a nothing burger. But I
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  Speaker 4: think you can read between the lines. Yeah, that's where
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  Speaker 4: it comes from. I think I agree.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 2: Next up, we have a voicemail from Michelle regarding Providence.
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  Speaker 3: Let's give it a listen.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, Okay, I wanted to give you my thoughts on
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  Speaker 5: Providence Falls. I was not thrilled with the first one.
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  Speaker 5: I gave a second one a chance, and I'm still mixed.
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  Speaker 5: It just has not grabbed me like other Hamewark series have.
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  Speaker 5: And after listening to your review this morning, I have
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  Speaker 5: to kind of agree with Wendy on it's the tiny
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  Speaker 5: it's the pacing like it, it's slow, and yes, Megan,
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  Speaker 5: the last twenty minutes of the second episode was so grabbing,
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  Speaker 5: and I'm like, Okay, that will make me watch the
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  Speaker 5: third one because now I want to see what happens.
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  Speaker 5: I do also tend to think, and I think it
• 13:43
  Speaker 5: was part of what hindered me from like falling in
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  Speaker 5: love with it. The Angel slash Heaven scenes are just
• 13:50
  Speaker 5: too like I'm gonna say it, they're too cheesy. If
• 13:53
  Speaker 5: it would have been done maybe a little bit differently.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know that part is what's throwing me. The
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  Speaker 5: Fate Destiny flashbacks are fine. I get how they've been
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  Speaker 5: given a second chance and want to see what happens.
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  Speaker 5: But those scenes where we go to like the Angels,
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  Speaker 5: that's where.
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  Speaker 4: It loses me.
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  Speaker 5: So hopefully the third episode will pull it all together,
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  Speaker 5: but unfortunately I do not have high hopes.
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  Speaker 3: Yikes, yikes.
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  Speaker 2: Indeed, we do have a message in Instagram from Michelle
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  Speaker 2: about the third episode and says still not sure about
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  Speaker 2: Providence Falls, but Gabriel has my vote, so at least
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  Speaker 2: she was team Brenda Penny.
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  Speaker 3: She's not wrong.
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  Speaker 4: It's kind of slow, yeah, but that doesn't mean it's
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  Speaker 4: not good.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I really liked it, as evidence by three episodes about it.
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  Speaker 3: I thought the books were a little slow too.
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  Speaker 2: I just think it's that kind of sweeping storytelling, a
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: little bit real contrast from like Chicken Sisters style storytelling.
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  Speaker 5: Well.
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  Speaker 3: I have two thoughts.
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  Speaker 4: One is we live in such a world where everything
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  Speaker 4: has to come at us fast and furious, right, like
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  Speaker 4: we have no attention span for anything indeed, And the
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  Speaker 4: second thing is Michelle, like us, also grew up on
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  Speaker 4: Gilmore Girls, and so I think we are just used
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  Speaker 4: to pace that is, like, let's just get to the point, right.
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  Speaker 4: I think those are contributing factors. But also I want
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  Speaker 4: to talk about Michelle's thoughts on the cheese of it
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  Speaker 4: all with the angels and stuff. I do think she
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  Speaker 4: nails it there. But I think you Megan made a
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  Speaker 4: really good point in yesterday's Providence Falls episode about how.
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  Speaker 3: Do you do that with that?
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  Speaker 4: You know, there's things we have to work with here.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe it wasn't executed perfectly, but it didn't ruin the
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  Speaker 4: series for me.
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  Speaker 2: I liked the heaven scenes. I didn't love like the
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  Speaker 2: when they would appear. I thought that was that was
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  Speaker 2: where they lost me. But yeah, I don't have the
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  Speaker 2: answer for how you make that more believable or let
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: you know, there's an element of they are angels needs
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  Speaker 2: to be a little bit otherworldly. Any you either like
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  Speaker 2: that sort of thing you don't. I don't know what
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  Speaker 2: that answer is there, but we do have another email
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  Speaker 2: about Providence Falls. Diane writes in I'm a first time
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  Speaker 2: writing but I've been enjoying your podcast for a few
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  Speaker 2: years and I've always thought about writing in and finally
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: worked up the courage y'all don't be afraid of.
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  Speaker 3: Us, not at all, please, she says.
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  Speaker 2: First off, when you were talking about the low ratings
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  Speaker 2: for Providence Falls, I can't help but wonder if the
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  Speaker 2: promos are to blame.
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  Speaker 3: I think thing ding ding on that one.
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  Speaker 2: All Mark promos for new movies have been rough for
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  Speaker 2: a couple of years now. I used to be able
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: to tell from a promo whether a movie would be
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: good or just so so, but not anymore. The promos
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: seem to undersell some good movies. That's one reason I
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: love your podcast. Our tastes are similar, and I trust
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: your reviews. Back to my point, the commercial for the
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  Speaker 2: first Providence Falls movie wasn't great. I thought it was
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: a period piece and wasn't excited for yet another month
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: of the eighteen hundreds, even though I'm team Tomcat. But
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: I gave the movie a chance after the second promo
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: featured that swoonworthy line about Liam loving Cora between lifetimes.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: Hallmark might have leaned too heavily into the past in
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: the promo, or maybe it was just another miss from
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: the marketing team that said I'm loving the Providence Falls movies.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: They give me the way home vibes which makes me
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: so happy. I'm going to pause there. In terms of
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: production value, I agree. What are your thoughts in terms
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: of production value? Yeah, we're we're talking quality of The
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: Way Home. Yeah, it's on par Yeah, I think I
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: think the storytelling in the Way Home is stronger than
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: Providence Falls. However, Providence Falls is based on existing content,
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: and so there was, you know, some limitations there in
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: order to tell that story. Dane goes on to say
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: another Providence Faalse thought, I'm wondering if Kora's dad is
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: up to something. We've already solved this mystery since we've
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: reviewed the third depth episode. But she says it felt
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: odd that he wanted her off the case, and that
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: scene in the coffee shop with him and the retired
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: detective seemed awkward and suspicious.
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: I'm telling you they did that on purpose. Totally, totally.
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  Speaker 3: You know what's funny.
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  Speaker 2: We didn't talk about this, but I didn't watch Providence
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: Falls as a mystery. I know it is a mystery.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: I'm well aware we were trying to solve a crime.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: At no point did it occur to me to think
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: about the characters that we saw on screen that one.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: Of them had to be involved.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, When you were like, it's got to be void,
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: I'm like, that's funny. I didn't even occur to me
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: that it could be someone that we've already met, because
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: when we when we watch mystery movies, we're like we
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: were dialed in and we're trying to figure it out. Right, Yeah,
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: they've introduced the the bad guy to us in some way.
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: Right, So I wonder if that's like a viewer issue too,
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: like what are we watching? Is it a romance? Is
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: it a mystery? I don't is it a period piece?
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: I don't know what we are working with here. Maybe
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: that is a marketing issue for homework. Maybe they maybe
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: they didn't sell it in the right way. I read
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: the I read book one, I read part of book two.
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: I'm interested in finishing them, but I do find the
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: books to be a little bit slow, so they're not
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: like the first thing I reach for. I'm just curious
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: the differences overall once in the series.
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  Speaker 3: And the books.
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  Speaker 2: My point is in reading the synopsis of the movies
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: before they came out and reading this synopsis of the books,
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: I still was not one hundred percent sure what I
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: was getting myself into. They talked about like chasing each
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: other through lifetimes and we were like, oh, this is
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: this is a time travel movie and oh yeah, it
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: was not a time travel movie.
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah. All so I totally agree.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: That people did not know what to expect with these movies.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: Diane closest by saying, I just wanted to say I
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: love the podcast, the Hallmark News and the Mailbag episodes.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: Keep up the hustle, ladies, Diane, thank.
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: You for your email. We appreciate you. Yeah, totally so.
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: Paula wrote to us an email after listening to our
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: live podcast recording of It was Always You from bramble
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: Fest earlier this summer. She writes, great on the podcast,
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: it was great hearing you live. Thank you for the
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: mention too. I've been wondering about being too critical lately,
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: although I guess it's not just lately. One last thing
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: about George is that he left the island when he
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: didn't need to, and she, Lizzie was very explicit about
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: not wanting him to go.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: Great job once again.
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so she's basically just saying that George is that
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: fault too, right.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was Paul's take all along.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: Paula had been one of the drivers of the train
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: of wanting us to re look at it was always
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: you and was very much like pay closer attention to George,
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: like he is not deserving of any pity.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: He's equally at fall here. Paula is not team George
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: for sure.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: One final bit of Providence false thoughts comes from Francisco,
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: who says, I'm enjoying Providence Falls on the first episode.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: I did like how Liam was confused by cars and
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: cell phones. Francisco, I hated that he said it's funny
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: and Egon is nice as comic relief. Hey, I want
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: to interrupt Francisco here, I heard Deck the Hallmark say egon,
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: no egon, Francisco ort egon.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: So Egon should have been played by.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: Any guesses uh, Erica Tavla indeed, and I have to
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: say I totally agree with that take. Francisco says, I
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: do agree with Wendy. Pertaining to the first movie, the
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: flashbacks were pretty dark.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: Is the story there that interesting? It's okay.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: I buy Liam and Core's relationship there, but I'm not
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: exactly rooting for them in the present.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: Francisco.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: For the flashbacks shown between the movies, I liked how
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: movie too did it, He says, I like how the
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: second movie explored Finn and we're not just being overly
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: bombarded with how Liam is the one blah blah. On
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: that same note, I'm glad the guys are totally cool
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: with losing out to each other on this one. It
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: was the total antithesis of how The Way Home treated it.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: M I do agree with that. Yeah, I actually.
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: Really loved Finn and Liam's relationship and banter mm hmm
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: with each other. I would love to watch a show
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: about them, a buddy comedy with Ben and Liam.
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: Yep, yep, yeah, that is really interesting.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: They were both pretty quick to be acknowledged that they
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: we were dealing with two good guys here, and there
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: was no wrong choice in terms of the way Korra
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: would ultimately be treated so well.
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: And Finn even said in movie three, He's like, we
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: have a good relationship, but it's obvious those two have
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: something else. So like he took the l like he
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: saw it, and he has who's it waiting in the wing.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: So don't even get me started.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: But yes, if you want our full thoughts on that,
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: please go back to yesterday's episode. Providence follows three Thief
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: of fate. That's a wrap on this listener Mailbag episode.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: We'd love to hear more thoughts, opinions and questions from you.
• 22:52
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• 22:56
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