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Celine Dion...That's Who Gives Me Chills · Armstrong & Getty One More Thing

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  Speaker 1: Celine Dion. That's who gives me chills. It's one more thing.
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  Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getty. One more thing.
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  Speaker 2: Speaking of music that gives you chills, I'll tell you
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  Speaker 2: what music has been giving me chills lately, or the
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  Speaker 2: video anyway. We were mocking the video music awards the
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  Speaker 2: day after because I didn't watch any of them.
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  Speaker 1: Stupid and anachronistic.
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  Speaker 2: Somehow this got into my feed. The video that is,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if it was video of the year.
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  Speaker 2: I know it was nominated. It should have been video
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  Speaker 2: of the year. Young lean and generations. Have you seen
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  Speaker 2: that video? Oh, that's a freaking cool video. I've watched
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  Speaker 2: it several times. I tweeted it out. And, uh, several
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  Speaker 2: of our listeners also really liked it. And apparently there's
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  Speaker 2: a seven minute version of it. That's better. This young lean.
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  Speaker 2: He's a, uh, Kind of a badass young kid. It's
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  Speaker 2: got real brick-in-the-wall vibes. It's like school kids and he's,
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  Speaker 2: you know, hating on authority and all that sort of stuff.
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  Speaker 2: It's just him in his schoolboy outfit smoking cigarettes and
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  Speaker 2: singing with a bunch of people dancing around him. But
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  Speaker 2: the choreography is just stunning in this thing. And I
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  Speaker 2: usually hate that sort of thing, but it's just amazing. Well, anyway,
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  Speaker 2: the video is very, very, very cool. And he got...
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  Speaker 2: uh accused of ai because it almost looks like it
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  Speaker 2: has to be ai the coordination of all the dancers
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  Speaker 2: and the way their schoolboy outfits the color of them
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  Speaker 2: and everything you'd have to watch it to understand but
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  Speaker 2: it looks like it has to be ai so they
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  Speaker 2: did it live the other night at the video music
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  Speaker 2: awards and it was freaking awesome except for he smoked
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  Speaker 2: cigarettes in the video because you know he's a badass
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  Speaker 2: angry at the world teenager um I guess you can't
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  Speaker 2: smoke inside the whatever theater they did the video music award,
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  Speaker 2: so he's eating ice cream, which is kind of funny.
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  Speaker 2: That's his, I'm a badass, sticking it to the man.
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  Speaker 2: But highly recommend it if you like that kind of art.
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  Speaker 2: But that video gave me chills. So sometimes, and I
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  Speaker 2: remember back in the day, sometimes when it was done well,
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  Speaker 2: the video with the song added to the song. Usually not.
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  Speaker 2: but sometimes it like made the song. It's a different
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  Speaker 2: art form.
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  Speaker 1: It is a related, but yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, so
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  Speaker 1: a couple of questions, number one, an observation. I happen
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  Speaker 1: to read something about the video music awards and the, uh,
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  Speaker 1: and they were really trying to draw on their nineties, eighties,
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  Speaker 1: nineties heritage. And they had the surviving members of Nirvana
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  Speaker 1: up there. And, uh, Pat smear, the second guitarist who
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  Speaker 1: played on all their shows, um, after, well, a certain
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  Speaker 1: point in their career, he actually lit up a cigarette
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  Speaker 1: and was smoking that in the theater. So young lean
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  Speaker 1: ain't that much of a rebel if he was eating
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  Speaker 1: ice cream. What sort of, is he a hippity hop fellow?
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  Speaker 2: I think so.
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  Speaker 1: R & B?
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  Speaker 2: I think so. I'm not good at identifying what music is,
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  Speaker 2: even when I hear it. I don't know what you're
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  Speaker 2: supposed to call it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and it's kind of silly, too. It is. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I remember I used to get so annoyed with my dad.
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  Speaker 1: He'd say, so what is that? Is that heavy metal?
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  Speaker 1: Or I don't know what it is, what it is.
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  Speaker 2: Just listen to it.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I'll have to check that out. So a
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  Speaker 1: study came out recently. They're studying why some people get
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  Speaker 1: chills from music and others never do. And they use
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  Speaker 1: the French word frisson, which is one of the few
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  Speaker 1: French words I know. It means an intense emotional reaction.
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  Speaker 1: And I'd realized a long, long time ago that I
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  Speaker 1: get that from music in a way that a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people don't. And they're trying to study why some
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  Speaker 1: people do and some don't neurologically, which I suppose is interesting.
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  Speaker 2: I always remember.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to try to cure some dread disease instead.
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad I do because I sure do enjoy it. Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But I remember hearing Andy Rooney, he was the old
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  Speaker 2: guy at the end of 60 Minutes back in the day,
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  Speaker 2: talk about how he just doesn't get what the appeal is.
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  Speaker 2: He can't imagine why anybody would ever want to listen
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  Speaker 2: to music. And so he clearly just doesn't have that.
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  Speaker 1: That's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: In the same way that I don't really care about
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  Speaker 2: food and people can get so excited about it. I'm just, man, whatever.
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  Speaker 2: I can have a bowl of cereal and be just
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  Speaker 2: as happy.
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  Speaker 1: See, that's freaky to me, too. You and Andy Rooney,
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  Speaker 1: a couple of freaks. Yeah, but, well, and, you know, gosh,
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  Speaker 1: the actual explanation of it. You got this hormone. You
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  Speaker 1: got that hormone. You got that part of your brain
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  Speaker 1: and the other one part of your brain, and one
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  Speaker 1: influences blah, blah, blah. Some do, some don't. I thought
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  Speaker 1: it was funny that they actually measured goosebumps as a
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  Speaker 1: reaction to music. Because they were trying to figure out
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  Speaker 1: specifically why some people get chills.
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  Speaker 2: As a response. I got a good story about this.
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  Speaker 2: Don't let me forget before the end. Reactions to music.
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  Speaker 1: Right, right. Well, that's the thing. I think that's too narrow.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if I get chills.
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  Speaker 2: I've never noticed. I don't think I've ever gotten goosebumps
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  Speaker 2: in my life, but I get really, really, really excited
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  Speaker 2: about great music. I mean, it fills me full of something.
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  Speaker 1: I can hardly remember high school, but I have these
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  Speaker 1: incredibly vivid memories of being like a five-year-old in my parents' car,
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  Speaker 1: hearing my favorite songs on the radio. And even then,
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  Speaker 1: my reaction to them was just....
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  Speaker 2: You know, if you.
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  Speaker 1: If you understand this, you don't need it explained to you.
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  Speaker 1: And if you do need it explained to you, you
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  Speaker 1: couldn't possibly understand the explanation. But my emotional reaction to
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  Speaker 1: songs I really liked was, it was just this overwhelming
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  Speaker 1: feeling of joy that I still get. Yeah. That's just amazing.
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  Speaker 2: And most people must, or music wouldn't be such a
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  Speaker 2: big industry and concerts and all that sort of stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Must be lots of people get that enjoyment out of it.
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  Speaker 1: I'll bet there are varying levels of it and stuff
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  Speaker 1: like that. I'm intrigued by the fact that a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people like background music all the time. My brother,
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  Speaker 1: who I love and respect and is one of my
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  Speaker 1: best friends, he and his wife, they always have background
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  Speaker 1: music on or wherever they go, in the car, at home.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes it's news radio. No, almost never. Almost never. Because
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  Speaker 1: I either am listening to music or it's a distraction
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  Speaker 1: because I want to be listening to it. Not always. Occasionally,
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  Speaker 1: like if I'm putting away laundry, some real drudgery, I'll
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  Speaker 1: put on some music.
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  Speaker 2: Do you have any ADHD?
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  Speaker 1: Like on the golf course, I have no need for it.
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  Speaker 2: Does your brother have any ADHD tendencies? Because my son,
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  Speaker 2: who does have that, can't stand there not to be
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  Speaker 2: music on. I mean, he gets in the car. If
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  Speaker 2: we drive a block without the music on at all,
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  Speaker 2: it's like, can we please turn on some music? Just
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  Speaker 2: the lack of And I know a friend of mine,
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  Speaker 2: she got her PhD. She had to have music on
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  Speaker 2: to study.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I could not do that. In high school, I
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  Speaker 1: had to have music on to study. Really? I could
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  Speaker 1: sit still.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe that is an ADHD thing then.
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  Speaker 1: I wonder. Yeah. My brother's never had any history of it.
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  Speaker 1: He's been very successful, but, or not diagnosed.
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  Speaker 2: It's a spectrum, as you know. Of course. We can
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  Speaker 2: all have a little bit of these things.
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  Speaker 1: Sure. Yeah. Yeah. The sampler platter. The sampler crazy platter.
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  Speaker 1: I've indulged.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I could not study with music going. No way.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I could not possibly study without it. That's funny.
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  Speaker 1: And now it's changed. The one thing I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to hear is the 200 most worn out chestnuts of
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  Speaker 1: classic rock.
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  Speaker 2: I hear them a lot because it's a blessing and
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  Speaker 2: a curse. But my... freshman in high school, he loves
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  Speaker 2: classic rock. It's great music. His guitar teacher sure likes
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  Speaker 2: it because the guy's played those songs a million times
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  Speaker 2: in cover bands. And he loves it. You want to
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  Speaker 2: learn Hotel California? Let's go. Most kids come in one
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  Speaker 2: year and learn Young Lean. But yeah, so I hear
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  Speaker 2: all of your classic rock all of the time. And
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  Speaker 2: I've just had to learn to like re-enjoy it. All
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  Speaker 2: of the stuff. I mean, just My son's on a
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  Speaker 2: big CCR kick, so it's Creedence Clearwater every day when
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  Speaker 2: he gets in the car.
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  Speaker 1: That's so good. That's great. Yeah, I've told you this
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  Speaker 1: story before, but listening to a Creedence song completely freed
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  Speaker 1: me up as a songwriter. I was driving home. I
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  Speaker 1: can picture the car. I can picture where I was
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  Speaker 1: when I had that thought. I was about a block
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  Speaker 1: and a half away from the first house we rented
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  Speaker 1: in the Sacramento area. And, you know, I'd been writing
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  Speaker 1: songs and playing in bands since I was a kid,
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  Speaker 1: but I was always holding myself back by my pretensions
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  Speaker 1: and my ambitions. I was just, I was asking too much.
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  Speaker 1: And I was listening to, and I can't remember the
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  Speaker 1: specific song, which is funny, but it was Who'll Stop
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  Speaker 1: the Rain or one of those great Creedence classics. And
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  Speaker 1: I thought, this is three chords. It's very simple. And
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  Speaker 1: not only are people singing, enthusiastically and with love singing
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  Speaker 1: along with this 35, 40 years later, I am write
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  Speaker 1: a song that you like period end of requirements. And
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  Speaker 1: it completely freed me. Wow.
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  Speaker 2: That's interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. It's my problem was I liked a lot
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  Speaker 1: of like prog rock and like, uh, as Led Zeppelin
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  Speaker 1: got into their ladder and.
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  Speaker 2: You were kind of a hell and ready, Debbie Boone
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  Speaker 2: person at first.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. But then I, too hard for me. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: To the three people who know who Helen Reddy is,
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  Speaker 2: they spit out their coffee.
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  Speaker 1: Right. Oh, that reminds me. I haven't even checked. I often, well,
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  Speaker 1: I semi often tweet, but I almost never look at
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  Speaker 1: the comments or likes or anything. I've decided that's unhealthy.
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  Speaker 1: But did you see where I was tweeting about Randy
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  Speaker 1: Van Warmer's.
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  Speaker 2: One big hit? Yeah, I did see that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, from that era of ballless testosterone free i'm
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  Speaker 1: so sorry i'm a man soft rock just hate it
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  Speaker 1: i was on.
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  Speaker 2: A playlist for that stuff right after uh i found
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  Speaker 2: out i was getting divorced i was going through this
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  Speaker 2: very down period And I got on some sort of
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  Speaker 2: playlist that had all of those just sappiest songs of
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  Speaker 2: all time and was really enjoying them at that time
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  Speaker 2: from the 70s and 80s. And I'd forgotten a lot
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  Speaker 2: of them. I mean, just say they suck the testosterone
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  Speaker 2: out of you. You couldn't get an erection with a
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  Speaker 2: gun to your head when you listen to those songs.
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  Speaker 2: They're so, they just, oh, so placid.
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  Speaker 1: It's so easy to criticize somebody else who's trying to
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  Speaker 1: do something creative. I really try hard not to do that.
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  Speaker 1: On the other hand, this is what I tweeted. Just
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  Speaker 1: accidentally heard Just When I Needed You Most, the 1979
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  Speaker 1: flaccid rock hit by Randy Van Warmer. A truly maudlin
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  Speaker 1: lament about being dumped by some tart who couldn't be
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  Speaker 1: bothered to shut the door, even though according to the
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  Speaker 1: emasculated Mr. Van W., it was raining. I'm not a
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  Speaker 1: licensed therapist, but I'm guessing she left him because he's
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  Speaker 1: a whiny little bitch. Don't be that, Randy, and she
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  Speaker 1: might stick around, or at least she might shut the
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  Speaker 1: fucking door. She left in the rain without closing the door.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't stand in her way. Oh, Lord. Sorry, Hanson,
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  Speaker 1: for the bleep.
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  Speaker 2: Listen to David's soul. Don't give up on us, baby,
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  Speaker 2: if you haven't for a while. If you really want
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  Speaker 2: to recognize what that music was like back then.
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  Speaker 1: If you're in some sort of court-ordered anger management program
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  Speaker 1: and you really need to become more proactive Placid and
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  Speaker 1: or flaccid. It's a good place to start.
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  Speaker 2: And the doctor won't prescribe you estrogen. Just listen to
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  Speaker 2: some of that music.
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  Speaker 1: It comes unnaturally. Maybe that would do the trick. I
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  Speaker 1: sit in a room in darkness and dead silence. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: the sound of a cricket outside. Those are my afternoons.
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  Speaker 1: It's the Gulag Archipelago opener.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I guess that's it. Oh, Michael. The delivery on
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  Speaker 2: that was fantastic.
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  Speaker 1: Really good. Yes.