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The 5th Down: Tier 3 Fantasy Rankings · The Poi N Soy Podcast

• KayOhKnee: Welcome back to the podcast. I'm your co-host, Kern McKeegan. With me today on the fifth down is my boy from the fifth down. Nolan Chang. Say what's up to the pod, Nolan. Nolan: What up everybody? KayOhKnee: I don't even know. You know what's funny? This is like the ⁓ what is it? ⁓ I was gonna say the Emperor's New Groove, where it's like why do we even have that lever? I was like, I don't even know why I still have that button on here. It says the fifth down intro, but it's not It's the old faith down intro, so I was like, Why do I even have that still? I just deleted it. My goodness. Anyway, you guys didn't even hear that. I'll have edited it out so you won't even know about that. But anyway, we're here to talk about some NFL fantasy football. Continuing our tiers conversation because tiers one and two are now in the books. I will say I couldn't remember if you s you had him and I was trying to remember. Did you have ⁓ the the one that is you currently accused of things that we are probably bumping out of them tiers or? Nolan: Good job. KayOhKnee: Was he in your tier two? Nolan: was in my tier 2. KayOhKnee: Gotcha. So there's obviously a a person that we spoke about that, you know, not gonna convict anybody who isn't currently convicted. You know what I mean? Just just currently ⁓ under investigation. But ⁓ yes, that player is no longer in our tier twos 'cause of all that. We'll see how what comes of that. But anyway, we're here to talk about tier three, ⁓ and some of the players that we have here. So first and foremost, we gotta give a shout out to our partners over at W Energy. Fantastic tasting energy, all of the energy you need to get through your day. You head on over. To W.gg or use the W energy app and our promo code, which is POI and SOY. That's P O I and S O Y for 10% off your order. Nolan, let's talk some NFL fantasy football. Alright, so we are here in tier three. ⁓ things have gotten interesting since the last time that we spoke. ⁓ because undoubtedly, I think the OTAs, things like that, have really, you know, moved players up. Down all around we're seeing just this I mean, I don't know about you, but I'm s slowly getting more and more into the hype train of just like seeing these guys come out and do their thing. So ⁓ let's start off with the quarterback position 'cause undoubtedly things have probably changed for us. So starting with yours, who do you have in tier three for your quarterback position? Nolan: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. starting off tier three, do have Trevor Lawrence, you know, we've talked about, think you moved him up to your tier two last week. Is that correct? Yeah. Yeah. Did you, can you not hear me? Are you muted? Gotcha. My bad. Okay. Well, there's a little disconnection there. Gotcha. Yeah. Yeah. Gotcha. ⁓ Trevor Lawrence was on your tier two. Is that correct? KayOhKnee: Sorry, somebody was on the phone with me. Somebody just scot. Yeah. Yes, he was. He was at the very bottom of Tier Two for me. Mm-hmm. Nolan: That's so I do have them at the very top of tier three. ⁓ Kind of harken on everything you said last week. You had a lot of ⁓ weapons this year coming into this. Like Jaguars are kind of cooking, I think. So if Trevor Lawrence can return to the Trevor Lawrence, he was, I want to say three seasons ago ⁓ or two seasons ago, you could actually have a very big run for that division. ⁓ Kyler Murray, I also moved up. ⁓ KayOhKnee: Yeah, I agree wholeheartedly. Nolan: just from how things look right now during OTAs, he looks like the Kyler of old. Not saying much, it's not contact or anything like that, but he looks good. And then I still have Bo Nix right there. Bo, you know, he's still recovering. ⁓ This is someone that I'm keeping here just out of courtesy because he is someone on a strong team who can perform very well. But I have a inkling that it's going to be dropping soon just based off of KayOhKnee: Yeah. Nolan: I don't know, just this feeling. It's just this feeling I have, especially because he's recovering from the injury and we don't know how his actual status looks right now. Speaking of not knowing how the status looks right now, Patrick Mahomes, you know, he's out there throwing the ball. I'm so confused. ⁓ So if that's also on the flip side, if we get more... Yeah, yeah. KayOhKnee: Yeah. Mm-hmm. ⁓ yeah. Just rest, brother. You know what I mean? Like, my goodness. Like, do not, you don't they got Justin Fields. I get it. You're super competitive. Whatever. Just sit. Like, I don't I don't I don't understand rushing back. You're literally not even able to turn your leg all the way to one side when you're throwing the ball. Like, just stop. I'm like watching the highlights and I'm like, it just drives me nuts. I'm like. Nolan: Please. Mm-hmm. Please Lord. KayOhKnee: Yeah, like I I'm not even a Chiefs fan and I don't want him playing. Like I I don't get this. Come on, bro. Nolan: Yeah, I'm in agreement. So. But that being said, that boy's playing week one, he is shooting straight up to tier two at the very least. ⁓ I think so. I mean, KayOhKnee: Is he? If he can't move? Nolan: Yeah? KayOhKnee: I'm just saying, I'm not I don't think he goes up that far with that injury. Like even the way he's throwing the ball right now, cool, you can stand in the pocket, there's no pressure. We're talking about NFL defenses here. When they actually start coming in at you, you know what I mean? That leg is wide open. That's what I'm targeting as a tackler. Like, you know. Nolan: Yeah, yeah, yeah. But this is this is this is also you know, I agree. I agree. There's it's not like any O line is foolproof. But this is a team that they have invested deeply into this O line to protect Patrick for this reason. So we'll see. You know, this is just. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Very true. KayOhKnee: Yeah. Yeah. Mm hmm. Even though they were trash last year, but I mean, yeah, sure. I was just say I was like this is the same I like they haven't changed. I mean it's the same group of guys. Nolan: Hey, hey, hey. All right, it's fair points. Fair points, okay, whatever. ⁓ Next I got Baker Mayfield. know, coming back healthy this season is gonna be a huge step for him ⁓ to get the Baker of old from two seasons ago. ⁓ Sam Darnold I have there. You know, he's continuing to prove those who doubted ⁓ where he was drafted was in 2018, right? KayOhKnee: Hey, hey, hey. Nolan: He's getting the better opportunities better teams better coaching and it's paying off So I think that this is gonna be someone that you can also rely on to be that that extra on your lineup And then last I believe I moved him up. I moved up cam ward. I originally I believe I had Jacoby per set here I moved him down but I you know, I'm I'm drinking the Kool-Aid Coney and we'll get wool. I'm drinking the Kool-Aid and KayOhKnee: Whoa ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho. Ho ho ho ho ho ho ho Yeah, I mean you know I mean right I'm not doubting I'm just wow that's yeah from where you had him last time till now that's pretty crazy. Damn. All right, respect. Respect to the maximum. ⁓ yeah, so to start off the rip, I mean although I don't think he'll be higher than this, I guess I didn't totally disagree on Patrick Mahomes being somewhere here. So Patrick Mahomes is at the top of tier three. Nolan: Yeah, yeah? Yep, and that'll do it for my tier ones. KayOhKnee: For really nothing other than the fact that like irregardless of if he's if they play him off the rip, I'm hop this is my take on him. If they play if they hold on to him, let him, you know, figure things out, put him on the the PUP list to start the year, four weeks and let him recover. To me, that's what, two months ish from now, three months from now, that's a lot more time to recover than to just trot him out day one. I would take him at this spot because I think that eventually when he comes back from injury, if they rest him, he'll be great. My caveat to that though is like I said, if he is what you said and they play him week one, I'm less high on Patrick Mahomes because he's more prone to injury. I just feel like that's not enough recovery time. I know science and all that stuff has advanced well, you know, into the future, but to me, I just would not put a guy like that out there, especially when he is. so highly reliant on his mobility and his ability to get out of the pocket and roll out and get the ball to his players. Like Nolan: But they got horse steroids now, Cuny? KayOhKnee: They done been head horse there right. I don't know. ⁓ after him though, I have Matt Stafford. I mean, you really can't put a guy who wasn't in the MVP conversation and one of the guys I still feel is one of the best pocket passers. I mean, yeah, yes, sorry. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah. I like ⁓ I was like undoubtedly, yeah. My bad dog. ⁓ but yeah, I mean undoubtedly one of the best pocket passers of all time. Can't put him any lower than this. I have Bo Nicks following up right after again, along the train of what you said. Nolan: I know, you're right. No, he was the MVP, not the conversation. He was the Don't disrespect him. KayOhKnee: What he can be is still up there for me. And I'm still excited about the prospect of a Bo Knicks, especially in a Denver team that has just added weapons throughout this entire offseason, ⁓ including Jalen Waddle, who i I think is a great fit for Bo. ⁓ after that, Baker Mayfield, undoubtedly the floor guy in this tier for me, just the one that I feel like you can't fade him anywhere past this. He's never finished below this position. ⁓ for me, he's quarterback seventeen. There's just no chance that he goes any lower than that. I think he's gotta be somewhere in the top, maybe a QB1. You what I mean? Top top twelve for sure. ⁓ upside. After that, though, I have Tyler Shuck at number 18. ⁓ I believe in his talent. I believe in what this team team is building. I think that they are undoubtedly one of the better young teams. The Saints, to me, just look like they're ready to go this year. Not necessarily Super Bowl status, but Nolan: You KayOhKnee: maybe second in their division. I think there's a a good chance that they'll compete for that number one. We'll see if they are able to tie it all together. But with the Kellen Moore ⁓ system now in place, I just think that they're so ready for another step forward ⁓ this year, especially with Tyler Shuck being in the fold for the entire season. And then to round out my tier three, I actually have Malik Willis here. everything coming out of that training camp is saying that Miami is going to be focusing heavily on this boy Using his legs and playing the way that he has been showing himself to play. They're not gonna try to change him. They're not gonna try to make him just a pocket passer for no reason. They will let him have the leeway to play the way that he wants to play and feels most comfortable playing. Parker Washington is there, but also they added, you know, a couple of different guys. Chris Bell's gonna be I mean, yeah, Malik Washington, excuse me. Malik Washington is there. They have Chris Bell who is gonna be a prospect to be looking at. Obviously they have the same, you know, ⁓ Nolan: Malik Washington. You KayOhKnee: Offensive line group, and then of course Devon Devon Achan, I think is going to be his biggest weapon. But ⁓ most importantly, the legs, man. That rushing upside is undoubtedly going to be where I am cashing my money on Malik Willis. So ⁓ if Miami can be even somewhat competent of an offensive line, I think that he is undoubtedly gonna have a chance to be able to use his legs very often, if not just to run away from guys who penetrate that line. So ⁓ anyway, let's move over to the running back position where things have undoubtedly changed. Nolan Nolan: Yep. KayOhKnee: Let's start off with the top of your tier three. Who do you got? Nolan: I got King Henry himself. ⁓ I think I kept him there from where I was last time, I just don't think there's any world where even this new coaching staff is going to shy away from Derek Henry unless he is fumbling the ball like he was last season. ⁓ But knowing... KayOhKnee: Mm-hmm. ⁓ at first I thought I dropped him out. I was like, Where is he? But I forgot I had him in tier two. I was like I got completely lost. I like, Damn, how far did I put him? ⁓ like no, he's he's up. Gotcha. Nolan: Okay. Yeah. ⁓ Next I got Jeremiah Love. ⁓ The reason I didn't put him in tier 2 is because I have this weird feeling that the Algier being there still is whether he likes it or not, whether they like it or not, whether... any of the fans like it or not, feel like Algier is there to kind of lead the way for Jeremiah Love. Jeremiah Love will be the running back one when it's all said and done, but I do feel like it's gonna be ⁓ a slow gradual pace into that where it may be kind of like a 50-50 split for right now. ⁓ Not that he's not gonna get any love at all, but I think when opening week starts, I don't think it's gonna be straight out of the gates for him. ⁓ So that's why I just kind of have him at the top of tier three rather than being at the bottom of tier two or KayOhKnee: Yeah, 'cause honestly he's only like pick three in the draft, so like they probably don't have much belief in him. Nolan: so on so far. know it's crazy right? None at all. At all. Like he wasn't even one or two like he was he was three come on. KayOhKnee: like that's not even really that great of draft capital, pick three. And it's like and there wasn't even like a bunch of like defensive juggernauts that they could have drafted instead of him, but just to grab him. Yeah. Zero belief in that kid. Nolan: Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't say that. There was no belief in him. ⁓ Next, I got Kam Skatabo. We've talked about it. This is going to be run first offense. You got to move up. You got to, know, as long as his brain cells are still there, ⁓ he's easy. KayOhKnee: Do you think it is gonna actually be a run? Like, is this gonna be 'cause I was like, obviously, like h between what he said and what Jackson Dart said, there's some kind of joking part of that. You know what I mean? Like they're obviously not gonna be trotting him out until he's well, for lack of a better term, just straight brain dead. You know what I mean? Like obviously he's gonna be mixing in and do you think where do you think where do you think that lands as far as like run versus, you know, throwing for this team? Nolan: Yeah? think that this is going to look like the 2023 Ravens. where they didn't have a go-to running back but they did use the run game because that's just how John Harbaugh is. ⁓ Which is why I still think in that same season, I believe that's the season that Ze Flowers was a rookie but he did his best that season as well. You're looking at having Malik Nabors kind of be that guy for him. ⁓ KayOhKnee: Mm. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Is that Dobbins and Gus Edwards? Nolan: Yes, I believe that was Doven's and Gus Edwards, yeah. But yeah, I think that's gonna be kinda how this looks because Kam Skadeboe by no stretch of the imagination is not Derrick Henry. ⁓ So it's not like they're gonna return to the two seasons ago Ravens that you just had where he had a 2000 plus yard year. ⁓ Even though he jokingly thinks he's going to have the 2000 year, I mean, he could prove us wrong, but I also think that there's... KayOhKnee: Okay. Gotcha. Okay. were the math was it math in that whole thing Nolan: Yeah, but yeah, think there's a couple things missing there, not physically and mentally maybe, but he's gonna have a big showing this season. Next up I got Travis Etienne, or I'm sorry I'm not calling you Etienne, it's Etienne for me for now on. ⁓ New spot, New Orleans Saints needed someone like him to kind of spell what they were lacking with ⁓ Kamara. KayOhKnee: Yeah. Nolan: and I think this is a much younger in a sense running back who has a lot more power to him that can actually provide for this offense. Gervonta Williams, we've talked about a lot Dallas paid him he deserves to be there he's gonna get the the shine. Who I have here right now I'm actually gonna do as we speak moving him I have Bucky Irving. ⁓ I am dropping Bucky Irving to the bottom of tier three. KayOhKnee: Mm. Nolan: in live time ⁓ because the reports. KayOhKnee: Mm-hmm. How many did you have in this tier? Nolan: 13, 14. But ⁓ it's also because I added some people, I think since we last talked. ⁓ Yeah, he's moving to bottom of the three because we don't know what's gonna happen with him. He may not even come back till halfway through the season. that's, for those who were Bucky Irving owners last season, you know exactly what, how that feels. And I don't want that feeling ever again. So. ⁓ KayOhKnee: Okay. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Nolan: Deandre Swift I have next on this list. I still have lot of faith that they're going to be using him a lot in this Ben Johnson offense ⁓ and he showed out last season so there's no reason why they can't keep utilizing him. Next I got Quinshaw Judkins. ⁓ He's kind of I think still in the same spot I had him last year or last time we recorded. Under him though I have Kyron Williams. I believe I moved him down a little bit just because of how yeah KayOhKnee: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Whoa, wow. Nolan: ⁓ There were some rumors and reports that it may look more like a 50-50 split between Kyren and Coram, ⁓ which doesn't really make me feel good as a fantasy owner. As a Rams fan, fantastic because Coram has actually been earning his ⁓ stuff there. ⁓ But there's also the fear that maybe Kyren is going to be the James Cook of KayOhKnee: No it does not. Mm-hmm. Nolan: this offense and then they're going to use quorum for the red zones and goal line which would take a lot out of Kyron's ⁓ usability. Next I have Tribune on Henderson. KayOhKnee: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Nolan: because I mean he's had a very quiet offseason if we're being honest and I'm hoping it's because he's been putting in work and we're gonna find out very soon that he's been he looks a whole new player coming into this second season ⁓ but we'll find out and then next someone that I did add to the tier three all the way from tier five Kenneth Gainwell KayOhKnee: Mm-hmm. ⁓ yeah. Mm-hmm. Nolan: I had to move him up because of what we are learning from Bucky Irving and if you saw last season when Kenneth Gainwell got running back 1 usage, he was a running back 1. So I am very excited to see what this kind of holds for him especially ⁓ with the Buccaneers. hold out hope for that one. ⁓ R.J. Harvey, he's there. I'm hoping for a better second season for him as well. David Montgomery, his first opportunity as a running back one once again with ⁓ the Houston Texans. KayOhKnee: Mm-hmm. Nolan: to see that happen. I also moved up to Jaderian Price so he is the second to last in this tier because I do believe in what they're saying that he is going to be that Kenneth Walker role immediately. Will he step completely into filling those shoes? We'll find out but I am very excited to see what that Seattle team does and then Bucky Roving of course at the bottom. KayOhKnee: Yeah. Nice. I was like I don't disagree with anything that you said there. I was like, and I do really like the Kenneth Gainwor take because yeah, that is undoubtedly a player that ⁓ has to move up with that news. So we're both gonna be monitoring that very what ⁓ very much so for the next couple of weeks. ⁓ at the top of my tier three, nothing really changed from the last time I spoke to now, other than I swapped around the two players that were at the top. I do still have Trevion or excuse me, I now have Trevion Henderson at the top of this tier, ⁓ just above Travis. Each N or Tin or whatever you want to call him. ⁓ so I flip flopped those two. ⁓ still believe that they're gonna be in sort of ⁓ backfield splits of like a seventy to thirty type of deal. I don't know that it's gonna be any worse or better than that, especially with Trevion. I know we're undoubtedly headed for an annoying Ramondre Stevenson sort of split backfield situ yeah, something's gonna be happening there. Nolan: Resurgence. KayOhKnee: ⁓ right after them though, I have Quinshawn Judkins. I I do believe that everything I've said about Cleveland, man, I mean they're undoubtedly going to be one of the most run heavy teams. ⁓ they also have a much improved offensive line. They have much improved offensive weapons in general. I'm still yeah, I'm still buying very hard on that it's going to be Shadur Sanders starting day one for them. And I do think that if that is the case, there is a much better case for Quinchon Judkins just because Nolan: They're much improved. Let's just put it that way. KayOhKnee: We know that he'll be handing the ball off a lot more than probably throwing it, especially after last year's throw ⁓ showing. But ⁓ right after him I do have Cam Scadabo. I agree wholeheartedly everything you said. Giants gonna still be very run heavy. We'll see how that plays out throughout the throughout the season. But I mean, right now, everything that he's doing, you can't move him any lower than this. But on top of that, I also truly wholeheartedly believe you can't move him any higher than this because The injury stuff, man. You know, you I buy the fact that he could undoubtedly be like a RB one talent, but just the the concussion protocols are scaring me away from him. Like I am not down to have a guy who's gonna be there, you know, for like eighty percent of my games, but not all of them. moving on past him, though I do have Kyron Williams here. ⁓ even though I know that there is a lot of concern about Blake Corum stepping in and Taking away touches from him, I do still wholeheartedly believe I mean, I feel like we do this every year with Kyron. You know what I mean? We undoubtedly push him down further and further and further and further. And then he's never finished past like the wide r or excuse me, running back like sixteen. So he's always gonna be somebody that I feel like can be drafted and you can feel comfortable, especially with his role in this system. I don't think that nothing's anything's really changed for me that makes me super scared away from him, but Nolan: Mm-hmm. KayOhKnee: If Blake Coram does start just absolutely going ham in this Rams offense, you know what I mean? Then that's a whole nother story. So ⁓ right after him I have Javante Williams, Dallas, that whole team, they look really good. I mean, obviously we already know. ⁓ hopefully he can kind of at least have a steady base. You know, when he was with Denver, wasn't great, came to Dallas, was like phenomenal. Somewhere in between there is like the real Javante. I don't think that he needs to be like last year's Javante, but somewhere in between, that's great for me. ⁓ right after that I have Byshal Tutin. ⁓ he is somebody that I've moved up a little bit since the last time that we spoke. ⁓ I do really like Byshall Tutin, especially we've already said this. The Jacksonville Jaguars seem to be a team that are going to be even better from last year. ⁓ they got a lot of help. ⁓ along that group. I mean, they still have one of the best wide receiver cores in general, I think another year. Why? Nolan: Doesn't that worry you though? because they have just such a crazy wide receiver core plus Brenton Strange that this may not just be this may not be the run offense you know KayOhKnee: I mean they had the they had the same I mean they had the same group last year and then they had Travis Etienne still, you know, performing like an RB one. So I think that if anything it just strengthens his case for being as good or for being the guy on this team. I mean, I am a little worried about Chris Rodriguez, you know what mean? I do think that he's gonna be taking goal line touches, so that is part of the reason why I'm a little less high on Bysh Tutin as I was like maybe when we started doing these rankings, but Nolan: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's fair. Hmm KayOhKnee: As of right now, I do think that he's still gonna be the number one. He was drafted by this group. ⁓ Liam I mean, yeah, Liam Cohen. Why was gonna say something else? I was like Liam Cohen did draft him. This is undoubtedly the guy that he wants. They let go of HN. That tells me like they have faith in Bayeshell Tutin and on top of that, again, like we said, if it's Chris Rodriguez stealing touches from him, I just I mean, he's great. Nolan: Mm-hmm. KayOhKnee: You know, he's solid, but I don't know about him being like a number one RB on a really, really good offensive team. So we'll see what happens with them this offs or this season, excuse me. DeAndre Swift again, similar to the Kyron thing. Can't really move him lower. Can't really move him higher. I don't know if the upside's up there ⁓ up there for me, especially with Kambanangae. Also sort of eating into his touches at the end of last year, and Kambanangay looks like a stud. So ⁓ My hot take, which I'm not gonna necessarily adjust my ratings for, but my hot take is that this will turn into sort of a fifty fifty eventually because Kyle Monungay was showing some really good stuff near the end of last year, and I am still on the trade that d DeAndre Swift is just an okay running back. But anyway, after him, I do have RJ Harvey here. you know Nolan: Mm-hmm. Hmm. KayOhKnee: There's a stuff coming out about the the rookie running back that they did draft was it ⁓ something Coleman. No. The rookie running back that they drafted Denver. Denver drafted. I thought it was something Coleman. Maybe I'm off. I was like, I can't remember what his name is. yeah. Anyway, they drafted a rookie. A lot of people were like pointing to the fact that he's very similar in ilk to Bucky. I mean, excuse me, to R.J. Harvey, ⁓ in that he's like Nolan: can't give it all to that man. KayOhKnee: sort of like a stocky build, also a really good run blocker type of deal. They also pointed to the fact that R. G. Harvey wasn't that great run blocking. I don't know if I buy into that so much. I mean, it's always good to have a third running back in whatever offense, especially when you have a team that is very run heavy, ⁓ like this Denver offense was last year, especially with the sort of injury stuff that you have with ⁓ Bo Nicks and not knowing how he's gonna come back to form and all that sort of stuff. J.K. Dobbins is there and I know he was performing really well, but he is older. I just feel like you're gonna go with the young buck and see what he can do this all this season. If he d proves that he's terrible this season, maybe this is the year that you start, you know, slowly figuring out things with the rookie and all that sort of stuff. But I know a lot of people are really down on the fact that they re signed J. K. Dobbins, but I'm like, Okay, he performed great for your team. Why would you just I mean, unless you're just a trash organization and you wanna look like the worst people in the world. I mean, you're gonna re sign that dude 'cause he performed admirably and also got injured for you. So all that points to I'm I still am very high on RJ Harvey. Moving over to Bucky Irving Again, with you. This is why I have Kenneth Gadenwell also in this tier, but he's at the very bottom of this tier. ⁓ just kind of slowly working his way up to this spot here. ⁓ I'm closing the gap, but I'm not gonna flip it just yet because there is still the thinking that day ⁓ Bucky Irving will still be ready by day one. We'll see if that happens. I'm not sure. You know what I mean? I was like all this injury stuff is always very concerning, but you can't really predict it. So after him I got David Montgomery. ⁓ I don't see anything pointing to I know a lot of people are talking about Woody Marks still. Why? He was terrible last year. This was a terrible offense in general. I just feel like David Montgomery is the stability piece for this team that they have desperately, desperately needed. I really like him as their workhorse back and I'm really hoping that he at least gets a sixty forty split, if nothing else. You know what I mean? Like if if it's any lower than that, I just don't understand that because David Montgomery is undoubtedly the better running back right now compared to Woody Marks. Nolan: Mm-hmm. KayOhKnee: after that Jalen Warren put him in this tier. I think I had him in this tier last time. I did not. Nope. I had him in the one right below. ⁓ but yeah, I moved him up into tier three. Again, everything coming out of that Pittsburgh Steelers camp. Regal Dotto's gonna be there, but I I mean, as far as what Mike McCarthy is saying, Jalen Warren is still the guy. I mean, he hasn't lost his spot. Regal Dotto will undoubtedly get his chance. And we'll probably make this sort of the Kenneth Gainwell situation from last year. But if you were a fantasy owner last year, you know that Jalen Warren and Rico or excuse me, Kenneth Gainwell were balling out for you, in fantasy league. So right after him, Jadarian Price, and that's right before Kenneth Gainwell who ends my tears. Jadarian Price, obviously, with the situation with Seattle. I mean, unless Emmanuel Wilson just starts showing up heavily during this, you know, OTA slash training camp season. I think you're just gonna trot it out with the kid. You know what I mean? To Darien Price is it's a first round talent. I mean, that's pretty wild to think that they even used the first round pick on him. But I mean, I guess they believed in him that much. So yeah, I mean they needed it undoubtedly, but it was just to me, I was like for a draft that wasn't supposed to be very running back heavy, that was a pretty high draft pick for him. But ⁓ anyway, let's move over to the wide receiver position because things have changed again. Jeez, this is see Nolan: I mean, it made sense, right? KayOhKnee: As we get deeper into these tiers, this is where stuff really starts to like get changed up a whole bunch. So Nolan, let's talk about your tier three. Who do you have here for your wide receivers? Nolan: Mm-hmm. First top two Garrett Wilson Devante Smith. ⁓ I think those are those two are also technically interchangeable if needed ⁓ I just think that they're both great talents on a team where they're gonna be clearing away the wide receiver ones, especially Devante Smith with the Expected departure of AJ Brown, but you know, we've talked about it. We got a wait to find out that actually happens ⁓ KayOhKnee: Yeah. The writing's on the wall. It's a yeah me he's out. Yeah. Like it's just a matter of where we'll see where he ends up going. Nolan: Yeah, and then Garrett Wilson, it's really just depending on, you know, what his chemistry looks like with a wooded, whichever quarterback Gino or if it's going to be, ⁓ why do I always forget this guy's name? ⁓ Clubnik, K. Clubnik. Yeah, so depending on who's starting, who he has better chemistry with, that's what's going to really tell you that what Garrett Wilson we're going to be getting. Third, Richie Rice. ⁓ KayOhKnee: ⁓ Kate Klubnik. Nolan: we're you know rashi rice ⁓ we we don't know what or when we're gonna get rashi healthy yeah okay cool cool cool cool ⁓ KayOhKnee: She writes. That was just like You don't you don't gotta keep going, yeah. So you like you could just I was like you could just go back to the normal Nolan: Jaylen Waddle. I have him here near a little closer to the top of tier 3. I have a lot of faith that he is going to usurp Sutton as the wide receiver one. I don't even have Sutton within 10 spots of this guy so that should tell you everything. I'm wholeheartedly thinking that this guy is going to be the offense. Yeah. KayOhKnee: He's he has just gotten so many opportunities and I mean I I mean, I know Bo wasn't great, but this dude, like I mean, how many times do you need to be listed as our as wide receiver one and just do absolutely nothing for the Denver Broncos? Come on. Diddley. Nolan: Deadly. ⁓ Under that I got Mike Evans. I think this is going to be a resurgence season for Mike Evans with the Niners, ⁓ especially because he was in the tier or overall. 19. I believe, yeah, 19. ⁓ Then I got Lad McConkey. ⁓ I think that this is going to be another coming out. KayOhKnee: What number are we at for you right now? Overall. Okay. I'm just curious. Yeah, well okay, keep going. I'm just curious. Okay. Nolan: for him, hopefully. I mean, he took a huge step back last season where it allowed players like QJ and then Keenan Allen, of course, to kind of get their scraps. But without Keenan Allen there, it's literally him, QJ, and Trey Harris. mean, Lad McConkie is going to be trying to fight to make sure that he's still that wide receiver one for them. ⁓ Next I got Emeka Ibuka. I love what I'm seeing right now in OTAs. I think that he's coming back with a vengeance this season. ⁓ The runway is clear now that Mike Evans is gone. It's going to be him and Godwin. He's more of the ex guy. Godwin's more of the short slot player. So this is going to be really fun for him this season. think that he is someone, spoiler alert, as we get to our boom bust segments, he's someone that I think is going to boom. I definitely think that this is going to be a really exciting season for him to come out. ⁓ Luther Burden next. I'm buying stock. Ben Johnson's buying stock. We're all buying stock. It's Luther Burden's time. ⁓ My boy Michael Wilson's next. KayOhKnee: Yeah. Nolan: just don't know who you know he's shifted down a couple spots since our last talk but I'm he's he's KayOhKnee: I'm not gonna lie, he's also on my he's also on my trending down list right now. Because that new quarterback might be changing things up a little bit. I was ⁓ I was with you. You know what I mean? Me and you I was with you. We were I was high on the Michael Wilson tricking and now I'm like, eee It's like when you prematurely cheer for like a r a touchdown and you're like, Nolan: I... you know, I'm just... I'm just... fingers crossed. You know what? under that I got my- got called back. And the next I got Michael Pittman. think he's looking really good for you guys right now. I'm very excited to see. Yeah, I think I think also Aaron Rodgers is probably going to be very excited to have someone like Pittman alongside DK Metcalf ⁓ to kind of spell the offense a little bit. Give us some exactly. Exactly. ⁓ KayOhKnee: Yeah okay, yeah. Wow. ⁓ wow. ⁓ yeah. Can't double team both, you know I mean? Mm-hmm. Well, I mean you could and there'd just be nobody else behind. Just like wow, those other two receivers are just wide open. Nolan: Aaron just like chucks it out of bounds. Sorry, I couldn't see him. Just kidding. I'm just kidding. KayOhKnee: Okay. All right. It's like please, Erin. Nolan: Please, one last ride. ⁓ Next I got Terry McLaurin. I'm liking what they're cooking over in Washington right now. And I think that he is going to have, you know, I wouldn't even say a breakout season, but I think it's going to be an elevated season for him. ⁓ Under him, Christian Watson. KayOhKnee: Mm-hmm. Nolan: We're going to see what that offense is looking like, but all arrows are pointing to Christian Watson being the wide receiver one as the enters. ⁓ Roma Dunze, under that, ⁓ he had a great season last, I would say great first half of season last season. And then they kind of diversified the offense a little bit, but I still think he's a big threat. He is not too far off from where I have. ⁓ ⁓ Why am I freezing right now? Burden. So those two guys are definitely going to be that kind of corners for a cornerstones for the team in the offense. And then last moving up into the tier three since last time we talked, Carnell Tate. Once again, drinking the Kool-Aid. I think what I'm seeing is really exciting. ⁓ You'll guys you guys will hear it next week, but right under him, top of tier four is Wondell Robinson. And I had to keep him next to each other just because. KayOhKnee: Mm-hmm. Nolan: You know, he is the wide receiver one. Carnel Tate's looking like wide receiver one talent though, so it's hard for me to just kind of give one up through over the other. KayOhKnee: Yep. I agree wholeheartedly on that one. ⁓ yeah, to start off the rip, there is a pretty big change from the last time to now, and that is the Michael Wilson pick. ⁓ I actually moved Michael Wilson all the way out of my tier three and into my tier four. for nothing other than just everything that is coming out of Arizona is pointing towards Marvin Harrison Jr. Why? I don't know. You know, they're I mean, apparently they are buying so hard on the fact that they drafted him so high that they need to prove that he is still a talent and all of this other stuff. That coupled with the fact that we're seeing Carson Beck just do his thing during training camp. I mean, I I was so with you on the Michael Wilson train and now I am so just I'm scared. So ⁓ yeah, to so to start off the rip, him and actually him, Wanda Robinson and Rasheed Rice have been completely bumped out of this tier for me, ⁓ which is crazy to say because I was firmly on the train that they were gonna be really good and now I'm not. So anyway, to start off the rip I got Garrett Wilson at the top of this one. ⁓ I mean pretty obvious why we have him here. Could honestly be just like how you had Devonta Smith ⁓ right below him. I have him right below Devontae Smith. He could honestly be at the very bottom of tier two, but ⁓ I'm just still waiting to see who the quarterback is going to be. After him is T Higgins For all the reasons you said last week about T. I mean, he's undoubtedly a guy that can be, you know, the the guy on any other team except the Bengals. It just so happens that he's behind the number one wide receiver in the league. So yeah, I mean, he's still all the talent in the world. My only worry with a guy like T is like if anything happens to Joe Burrow, he loses his value immediately. Like, period. So that's the only reason why I cannot put him any higher. Nolan: Yeah. Yep. Yep. KayOhKnee: Is just that that right there. And like you already know Jamar Chase is gonna be the guy, but T is gonna be the maybe he's playing this week and maybe he's catching some balls this week. So anyway, right after that, I'm with you. Emeko Buka, man, has looked fantastic this off season. ⁓ really trying to prove that his early season version of himself is way is more who he is as opposed to the late season version of himself. Nolan: Hmm Yep. Yep. KayOhKnee: If you got burned by him last year, I'm sorry, but you know what I mean? This year, I'm gonna be trying to draft him if I can, pretty much anywhere I can. So that's a guy that I'm undoubtedly looking to take over that number one Mike Evans role. ⁓ right after him, another guy that I feel is gonna be on a similar track but in a different way, and that's Lad McConkey. ⁓ agree with what you said. I mean, the Chargers still don't have an established one. You bring in Njoku, who's not gonna be necessarily like the target. getter, but he is gonna steal targets away. Yeah, poor Ketston for real. ⁓ Quentin Johnson showed that he is undoubtedly a fantastic wide receiver too, so him being there is gonna be great. I do think Trey Harris takes a little bit more of a role, but to me Ladd McConkey is still the guy. ⁓ and if we believe that Justin Herbert is gonna have the resurgence that we believe he's gonna have, I mean, goodness, that that means just to the moon with Ladd. Nolan: Poor Gadsden. KayOhKnee: ⁓ right after him, agree again, Jalen Waddle, have him up here because I do believe that Denver is gonna look really, really good and he is gonna be the reason why, because he is undoubtedly a he is probably the prototypical Bo Knicks wide receiver. Like he's the guy you do want with Bo Knicks, not Cortland Sutton. Terrible. Terrible, terrible matchup with the two of them. And then right here at my twentieth player ⁓ in the wide receiver tier, ⁓ or wide receivers in general, I have Carnell Tate. Nolan: you KayOhKnee: ⁓ I did bump him up tremendously from where I had him the last time, which was in somewhere in my tier four twenty, twenty, twenty. Nolan: So what number is he for you? Technically overall? Okay. I mean, look, no, I just put Cornell Tate there out of, know, once again, courtesy and respect to what I'm seeing, know, OTAs is a different story than when it comes to game time, where we'll see. KayOhKnee: That's what I was asking you, 'cause you were getting closer and closer and then I was kinda like I was like Yeah, so Nolan saying he's gonna draft him in the second round. Okay. You try to draft it before me? I got you. Okay. No, just like pick thirteen, Carnell No, I'm just gonna I'm just kidding. Just kidding. yeah. I mean yeah let's start it. Let's start it. Yeah, I know I know. I mean I ended up in the finals. Nolan: Imagine ⁓ my God! ⁓ no, Keoni. Don't do the rookie things again this season. KayOhKnee: ⁓ yeah. Undoubtedly though, Carnell Tate to me is one of the guys that if you're believing in anybody in this class, it's gotta be him. I mean, he's gonna I mean he already looks really good. The Titans don't have an established guy. Wandell Robinson, I ⁓ I'm with you still on that point, but you know you draft a guy that as high as you drafted Carnell Tate, he has to be at least Nolan: Hmm KayOhKnee: the number one in your system and has to be a large part of your offense heading into the season. So at twenty-one, I do have Terry McLaurin. ⁓ for all the things that the experts are saying and more, I mean Terry McLaurin is undoubtedly at his best when Jaden Daniels is on the field. And Jaden Daniels, for all intents and purposes, is much healthier than he was last year. Nolan: They lookin skinny though. I noticed that. I don't know if those were fake photos I saw but... KayOhKnee: Yeah d think those were those were AI. I was like I know there was ones that were like super super and then there was like a normal skinny yeah. There was there was a normal skinny one where I was like, ⁓ okay, he's skinny, but he's not like d dying. So ⁓ yeah, Terry McLaurin undoubtedly as a you know wide receiver one with Jaden Daniels is much better than Terry McLaurin wide receiver one for whatever mishmo Marcus Mariota. ⁓ Nolan: Okay. I was like, dear God. KayOhKnee: Backup type of situation that they had last year. he did try, you know what I mean? He's still one of the better backups, still one of the better backups, but you know what I mean. Just not for fantasy purposes, you know, like ⁓ we'd like somebody else. But ⁓ at twenty-two I could do have Zay Flowers. I know that sounds crazy because I am not typically a Zay Flowers buyer. I know, I know, I know, I know. Hear me out. Nolan: he tried you know Marcus Marriott tried shout out to the boy Are you okay, Keoni? Are you sure you're okay, man? KayOhKnee: For a couple of different reasons here. The main one being that it is no longer Harbaugh ⁓ that is head coaching this team. They have a much different coaching staff in general. ⁓ they'll be doing a lot of different things this season. If you're reading the tea leaves and kind of looking into what the Baltimore Ravens are cooking up from an offensive standpoint, they're undoubtedly gonna be using sort of ⁓ a different system than what they've been used to. I mean, the culture Is still there, so you're still gonna have, you know, Derek Henry a lot this season. But I do feel that a fully healthy Lamar Jackson and a fully ⁓ revamped offensive system is pointing towards Zay Flowers finally taking that step is to his sort of wide receiver one. You know, probably in the I wanna say I'm gonna say finishes in like the twelve through sixteen range this year, ⁓ for wide receivers. I just think that it's finally bound to happen and with what he kinda did last year, minus the lack of touchdown equity, this might finally be the year for him. And I cannot believe I'm saying that because I have been a Zay Flowers hater for forever, but he is one of the guys I'm keeping my eye on as the sis as the season goes forward because he has no other competition and Mark Andrews is only another year older. Isaiah likely is out the door. I mean, I don't even know really who else Lamar has to throw the ball to. ⁓ Unless you really believe in Rashad Bateman, but anyway. Do you I was ⁓ I was like, whoa. I was like that just threw me for a loop. You're like, top of tier four Rashad Bat no, just joking. ⁓ anyway, ⁓ so I have Roma Dunze following him and then Luther Burden after that. Having in that order for now because I do still think that Rome is at the top of the pecking order. Nolan: Listen man, no. KayOhKnee: For nothing other than they have to see what they have in him. If they're going to trade him eventually, if they're going to f you know, p slot him into that role, I think he is more of an X receiver than Luther Burden. I Luther Burden is more of a slot guy. So they can work in that pairing. I do think that Ben Johnson will make use of both of them. I just have him just ahead of Luther Burden because of that specific thing. Him being the X guy, Caleb Williams liking to take his deep shot ⁓ kind of stuff throughout the season. I just that's where I'm at with these two. ⁓ yeah. Right after them I have Mike Evans. again, I I know a lot of people are fading Mike and I don't know why. I mean, did we see what I mean I know I get he's hit injured a lot and all that sort of stuff, but he has been performing fantastically for how many years in a row now? I mean every time we fade this guy, he ends up just absolutely showing out Nolan: Yeah, I see it. KayOhKnee: Thousand yard seasons, how many years in a row now? I mean, yeah. Nolan: Yeah, look, I will say this like he missed eight, eight, nine games last season. And I think it was I think because he got injured and then he came back and they got re-injured. But I'm saying like. KayOhKnee: Damn, was it that much? ⁓ my gosh. Never mind. I'm gonna slide my g no I'm just I'm just kidding. Nolan: The fact that he got to a point when he officially returned late in season where people were like, he just needs 175 yards a game to reach 1000, that means he still had a chance. And that tells you everything you need to know. KayOhKnee: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And that's even more wild to think that he immediately stepped back into a wide receiver one role, even with Omeko Buka having performed how he did last year. The runway is wide open for him, man. Really it's only Ricky Pearsall and then Deshaun Strabling, if you even believe in that guy. So I just think that with Brock Purdy in this system, Mike Evans is gonna be a baller this year, man. So right after him Hate saying this again because I was with you. You know what I mean? We still boys, but it's Marvin Harrison Jr. Dog. I gotta put him up here because it's Carson Beck now. You know, we don't have Jacoby Brissett. That was Jacoby's favorite wide receiver. But Marvin Harrison is still the ex. You know what I mean? Like we're we're at this point now with this team where I don't know who's gonna be starting for them. And if it is Carson Beck. It I just there's a there's a world, man. There is a world where top ten overall pick Marvin Harrison Jr. is still top ten overall pick Marvin Harrison Jr. Nolan: There is a world. For the sake of you Michael Wilson, hope that the reports and rumors are wrong. I hope that you and Carson Beck have a dinner together and realize that you guys have a lot in common. You know maybe you... He does. He looks crisp. He looks crisp. There is a world, where we can go inside together. KayOhKnee: Yeah. Carson Beck do be looking good though. You know what I mean? Like he could he could make them both look great. You know what I mean? But there is a world. There's a world. but it's gonna be Marvin Harrison. No, I'm just kidding. Honestly, I have I'm not anyway decisive on either of these guys. So ⁓ after that, Christian Watson. I mean, undoubtedly stepping into wide receiver one role with Romeo Dobbs out the door. You know, he is the ex guy now. Jaden Reed steps into the slots the slot role for that team. Matthew Golden, I don't even know where he's gonna be, but he might usurp ⁓ Jaden Reed. So we'll see what happens with that situation. Nolan: to KayOhKnee: Christian Watson is still the X guy. I was like, ⁓ he could. You don't know. ⁓ anyway, DJ Moore is actually the guy that I put at the bottom of my tier three. and again, kind of similar to what I said about Zay Flowers, who I also wasn't very high on. DJ Moore in a situation with a quarterback that should one thousand percent increase his value as a player, make him a better receiver, throw the ball to him more. All that sort of stuff. I haven't seen it from Josh Allen, but all that being said, Khalil Shakir, Dalton Kincaid, you know what I mean? There aren't really any threats here. DJ Moore is undoubtedly wide receiver one. Keon Coleman's likely on his way out. There's rumors already about him being traded. I just feel like if there is a season for DJ Moore to look really good and to take over as wide receiver one on a team It's this season with Buffalo and Josh Allen. So he is at the bottom of my tier three for that reason alone. Let's move over to the tight end position. Nolan. I don't know about you, but mine's is pretty large. It's from pick ⁓ number ten through twenty-two. So I have a lot here. ⁓ where are you at with your tier three tight ends? Yeah, I know. Because like I said, tight ends is like the hardest one to predict, and this is undoubtedly like the Nolan: Holy crap. ⁓ I mean mine's... Yeah. KayOhKnee: I don't care if it who in this group I get. It's just kinda like whoever I get, I get. You know what I mean? If I don't get tier one or two, it's whoever at this point. Nolan: Yeah. I mean, technically, think I did expand a little bit. Not a lot, just a little bit. They could be moved around. As you said, this is a very difficult position to really pin down. ⁓ I got Travis Kelsey starting off, tier three. You know, I think, you know, it's a little, is it crazy? Maybe, but yeah. KayOhKnee: Okay. It is. think it's crazy. I mean I mean this is tier three we're talking about so yeah I mean yeah. Nolan: Yeah, you're right. I mean, but at this point, it's like you're probably getting like deep into the drafts and like all the tight ends are flying off the board and you're just like, Travis, I'll take you. ⁓ But I mean, there's a reason he signed three year extension. He's got a lot left in the tank. I think he's going to be putting in lot of work in these OTAs and offseason to get in the best shape of his life in order to play for whoever the quarterback will be. And I think that regardless of which quarterback, think Justin Fields is going to find a lot of lot of dependency in Travis as he starts the season, if he starts the season. ⁓ Jake Ferguson, high powered Dallas offense. Not much more to say. Brendan Strange, high powered offense. He was the best receiver on that team last season. KayOhKnee: Mm-hmm. Nolan: don't see any reason why he can't be that again. ⁓ Under that, do have Jawan Johnson. I think that he's the cornerstone of ⁓ what they did last season. And I expect that to be the same situation this season. Olavi, him, and then Etienne, those are good three to have as your one position for each position. ⁓ KayOhKnee: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. ⁓ yeah. Nolan: and then Dalton Kinkade? You know? I know that was a little weird. I didn't want to dwell on that too long. ⁓ Okay. All right. I'm actually going to move down Kinkade in live time. I'm going to move him to the bottom of my tier three. ⁓ Yeah, it's fair. ⁓ KayOhKnee: I don't know why I said it like that. ⁓ yeah. That was weird. I don't I don't like it. ⁓ yeah. Juwan Johnson. ⁓ yeah. I've fit he's in f tier four for me, so you you ain't gotta explain yourself, brother. Yeah. Nolan: But the person who now usurped that is Chico Konkwu ⁓ because I think what Washington needed in replacement of ⁓ Ertz is someone like Konkwu and I think he's gonna get more opportunity than he did at Tennessee. ⁓ Following that I have Jake Tongus. know, he's Jake Tongus, he's a KayOhKnee: Mm-hmm. Whoa. Yeah. Nolan: He was mighty fine last season when Kittle was out and I, they're gonna need him. They're gonna need him this season. And then King Cave, round out, tier three. KayOhKnee: I was like I like that shot because that's undoubtedly one of those guys that I am yeah, yeah, I was like he's he's gonna be up there if he's starting for longer than we're expecting already. So ⁓ yeah, I mean to start off the rip, a lot of changes obviously with sort of like who was drafted, you know what I mean? ⁓ where they were drafted, that sort of stuff. I know I had ⁓ boy here, top of tier three Nolan: Boom bust, boom. Hehe. KayOhKnee: ⁓ actually no, maybe I didn't. Let me double check. ⁓ yeah, I did. I was like I had Jake I was gonna say Jake Ferguson, not Jake Ferguson Terrence Ferguson, ⁓ here at this spot because you know, I didn't expect the Rams to draft another tight end. So anyway, to start off the rip, Jake Ferguson is the top of this tier for me. Dallas, I mean, we already know where they're at with that system. Don't need to explain that one any further. Chico Conquo ⁓ is here at the second part of my tier two. Nolan: Okay. KayOhKnee: three. ⁓ Chico Quankwoo I mean he steps in as tight end one. They haven't really done anything to spell that other than you know having what's his name from last year that they drafted ⁓ Ben Sinnet and then I think that's it, right? They might only have Ben Sinnet and him ⁓ currently rostered. ⁓ so yeah again Chico Quankwo to me is the better receiving threat. I think that he could do wonders for Jaden Daniels, especially if Jaden Daniels utilizes him similarly to how he used Nolan: Yeah, I think so. KayOhKnee: Zach Ertz. So after that, Jawan Johnson again fully buying in on this offense being much improved. So Jawan's gonna be a big part of that. And then at the 13th spot, I actually have Kenyon Sadiq. ⁓ you know, we don't know who the quarterback is gonna be for the Jets, but if it is Geno Smith, Geno Smith and his tight ends, man, they just be doing things. So Kenyon Sadiq to me is gonna undoubtedly be the number one there. I don't see anybody else being even a slight threat to his standing, especially with him being just this all world talent and athlete and all this sort of stuff. So Kenyon Sadiq is gonna be number thirteen for me here. Right after that, I have another guy that I am buying pretty hard on that's probably gonna be way ahead of where consensus rankings have him, but that is Gunnar Helm. ⁓ again, if we believe what Tennessee is building there. Gunner Helm is also going to be a big part of that. And they did let Chico Conqua walk this offseason. So to me, that tells me that they have a belief in Gunner Helm as being their tight end one. They didn't bring in any sort of veteran help. I know there were sort of rumors around David and Joku that didn't end up working out. And now you have Gunner Helm as your number one tight end over here in Tennessee. I'm with you on Tennessee and drinking that Kool-Aid. So right after is Brenton Strange, ⁓ for nothing other than the fact that Nolan: Mm-hmm. KayOhKnee: When they added Jacoby Myers, it felt like Brenton Strange took a little bit of a step back, you know what I mean? not necessarily that he'll lose his, you know, reps or anything to anybody. He's still gonna be the preferred red zone target. But if they are, you know, doing what they're saying they're doing and they're trying to build this core with BTJ, Jacoby, and Parker, it does feel like there will be less targets to go around for Brenton Strange. So this just becomes sort of ⁓ you know, how Nolan: Mm-hmm. KayOhKnee: How many mouths can we feed situation? I do believe in Travis Kelsey as well. I put him here at 16 after all these guys. I'm at the point in my draft rankings where I am swinging for upside and all the guys that I have above him are just upside plays over him. He is the floor guy. I feel like if he falls to me pretty late, you know, that's when I'm gonna be like, okay, Travis Kelsey, and I feel comfortable tro trotting him out week to week as my starter. But as of right now, I'm just fading him because of the upside plays. Mark Andrews follows that and George Kittos follows that. Again, three guys older, injuries, all that sort of stuff. Upside, great, floors, great. Just not a lot more than that. ⁓ and then DJ Hawkinson, who undoubtedly, again, I couldn't put him in a four for me, but to me he has an upside, especially if Kyler Murray is gonna be throwing him the ball. So there's that sort of thing. Juwan Jennings did screw up this ranking for me because he was higher for me initially, but I do I did have to drop him because now they have three very good receivers over there in Minnesota. ⁓ right after that is going to be Hunter Henry, who I do still believe is gonna be the tight end one, even though I am slowly creeping up Eli Raridan, who they drafted this off ⁓ this season or this offseason, excuse me. but he has to do something during training camp to really prove that he can step in. I do think that he is Nolan: Hmm KayOhKnee: technically a better receiving th threat than Hunter Henry, but the chemistry, what Hunter Henry yeah, it's like nothing happened yet. So after that is the fur is the two tight ends from Philadelphia. I have Eli Stowers and Dallas Goddard right here. ⁓ to end my tier three because to be quite frank, I mean Dallas Goddard didn't sign a long term extension. You know what I mean? It was basically a one year and Eli Stowers was drafted with some pretty high draft capital. He's a Nolan: You gotta see it first, yeah. KayOhKnee: premier receiving threat at the tight end position, I think that there is a very good chance that Eli Stowers ends up stepping into a larger and larger role as the year goes on. I'm hoping I can snag him with a you know with my second tight end pick. just because I do like to have somebody with some possible upside if I grab somebody early. To me he's a guy who could have an increased role by like week five, six, somewhere around there, especially with the way things are looking with the contract situation with Dallas Goddard. ⁓ and that Philadelphia team. So, yeah, that will do my tier three for tight ends. Nolan, we are finally here at the end of this one. I mean, it's a lot of changes, bro. I mean, we're inching closer and closer. I know, for real. And we're gonna get closer and closer to this draft and things are gonna get wilder and wilder. But do you have anything else you wanna say to the people at home before we bounce on out of this one? Nolan: And it's gonna keep changing. Once again, I'm very excited. That's all. I'm so excited. KayOhKnee: No, for real though. I am so damn excited for Jared's wedding, which is first. Nolan: Yeah, that's what I was talking about. That's I was talking about. KayOhKnee: And then and then we'll be excited about the other thing after that. But anyways, it has been a pleasure. It has been a joy. From all of us here at Poi and Soy. Nolan: Goodbye's in love. KayOhKnee: Bang bang.