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Patriots Unfiltered 4/26: Day 2 Draft Reaction, Drake Maye In-Studio Interview, Cam Williams Interview · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 3: The World's a Pigeon Podcast.
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  Speaker 4: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered in the twenty twenty four NFL
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  Speaker 4: Draft the New England Patriots.
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  Speaker 3: It's Drake May.
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  Speaker 5: This is Patriots Unfiltered.
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  Speaker 4: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered, our special Draft show,
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  Speaker 4: Night two. We're gonna be in rounds two and three
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  Speaker 4: after a great night for the Patriots getting their guy
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  Speaker 4: Drake May. But there's a lot to talk about leading
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  Speaker 4: up to the draft. It actually starts at seven o'clock tonight,
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  Speaker 4: but we've got a half hour to kind of go
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  Speaker 4: over all the things that have transpired since then. The
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  Speaker 4: Falcons pick with with Michael Pennix and the rumors that
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  Speaker 4: are going around around Brandon Ayuk and Deebo Samuel and
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  Speaker 4: offers that the Patriots had to move out of three.
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  Speaker 4: So we'll talk about all that leading up to the
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  Speaker 4: start of the draft. At seven o'clock. It's Mike Dussa,
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  Speaker 4: Tamara Brown, Evan Lazar, Paul Perrillo back from the prom.
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  Speaker 7: So the junior problem.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, the junior prom. I just made it so so
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  Speaker 4: opening thoughts anyone.
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  Speaker 8: Well, I think my opening thoughts would just be we
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  Speaker 8: got to meet take May today and talk to him
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  Speaker 8: here in the studio, which I think we'll play in
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  Speaker 8: a little bit. Yeah, and you know it was introduced
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  Speaker 8: on the field as his tradition. So likable kid, likable kid.
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  Speaker 8: He's just he's got all energy. I mean, ours was
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  Speaker 8: probably what the fiftieth interview he's done in the last
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  Speaker 8: twenty four hour, not even what twelve hours. I mean, yeah,
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  Speaker 8: it was quick, and you know Tabara sat down with him,
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  Speaker 8: We got to sit down with him, but he just
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  Speaker 8: had energy the whole time, and he just seems really
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  Speaker 8: last bit, i'd just say, brought his brothers with him
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  Speaker 8: and his girlfriend brought them up onto the stage with him,
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  Speaker 8: and you can just tell how important family is to
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  Speaker 8: him and how much of an impact the family had
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  Speaker 8: on Paul had some great questions for him about it.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, incredibly athletic family.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, I just want to echo what do said. After
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  Speaker 9: meeting him today and seeing his energy and his rapport,
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  Speaker 9: I would say that's a guy I want to draft
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  Speaker 9: and develop and hope he's going to be, you know,
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  Speaker 9: the franchise quarterback. He just had great energy. He understands,
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  Speaker 9: you know, what he's coming into. He had great respect
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  Speaker 9: for what they're trying to do here, and he understands
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  Speaker 9: like the patience that has cut that has to.
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  Speaker 10: Come with it.
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  Speaker 9: So if you're going to draft someone and have to
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  Speaker 9: develop them and you have to be patient, he's a
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  Speaker 9: good one.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know, you guys probably aren't aware, but I
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  Speaker 4: took him out back and we already started working on it.
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  Speaker 7: Work.
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  Speaker 8: You give him the talk to the kurseh method.
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  Speaker 5: These are the things that people don't understand. How many
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  Speaker 5: different layers that were involved in with the organization. They
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  Speaker 5: make fun of us. It's me, especially because they call
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  Speaker 5: me a high ranking He's the kind of behind the
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  Speaker 5: scenes things. Why didn't you fetch mas coming out of
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  Speaker 5: a content apartment?
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  Speaker 4: Yea, No one asked me.
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  Speaker 7: You guys did some Did you do the Brady drill?
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  Speaker 4: No? No, we have Taylor a little bit because he
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  Speaker 4: was in a suit. Still, you know, you don't want
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  Speaker 4: to it.
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  Speaker 8: Jordan's look very fancy.
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  Speaker 10: You're might have to retire that. Carolina blue tie.
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  Speaker 4: After Oh yeah, get him a new fit Patriots.
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  Speaker 8: We got we got some footage there he is right now.
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  Speaker 8: If you're watching on video, we see uh strike me
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  Speaker 8: and the crafts.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah. I liked how he with his family, with his brothers,
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  Speaker 7: he said, hey, if you're you're getting me, you're getting
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  Speaker 7: all like this is my crew, Like, this is my
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  Speaker 7: this is my group, and we come together as a
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  Speaker 7: package deal. And I think that there's a lot to
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  Speaker 7: be said just you know, talking to people today. I
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  Speaker 7: think this is a big thing for the Patriots that
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  Speaker 7: he has a very athletic family. He's the youngest out
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  Speaker 7: of all of them, and he's probably the most athletic,
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  Speaker 7: not probably, he is the most athletic out of all
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  Speaker 7: of them. And there there's old theories, you know about
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  Speaker 7: that being the youngest out of a family of athletes,
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  Speaker 7: and how that can really get you to be very,
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  Speaker 7: very competitive and have to overcome a lot of adversity
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  Speaker 7: of not being the biggest, fastest, strongest kid at eight, nine,
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  Speaker 7: ten years old, getting beat up on by your older brothers,
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  Speaker 7: and then all of a sudden, the youngest tends to
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  Speaker 7: be the one that's the best out of all the group.
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  Speaker 5: Right there, right, I told you if I was going
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  Speaker 5: to get if I was allowed to play, I had
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  Speaker 5: to keep up. And I was four years young, and
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  Speaker 5: then everybody else that played.
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  Speaker 8: I mean I see it to my youngest son too,
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  Speaker 8: like just the brother wanted to play and boom, hall
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  Speaker 8: of fame.
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  Speaker 4: You learn from them, You see what they're doing, you
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  Speaker 4: set it up, the mistakes they make, and you learn
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  Speaker 4: from them.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, and also just seeing their success. Like my interview
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  Speaker 9: with him today, I'm just asking him just one of
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  Speaker 9: the life changing moments like that shifted him? And he said,
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  Speaker 9: watching my brother hit again game winning shot in an
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  Speaker 9: NCAA tournament game for North Carolina and to win the title,
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  Speaker 9: like that is that type of stuff that he's been
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  Speaker 9: sitting in the crowd watching watching his brother win a
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  Speaker 9: baseball natty. So it's like he's not just watching like
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  Speaker 9: his brother's be athletic and playing games like they're winning.
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  Speaker 4: National chances at a high level they perform. Oh yeah, right, Matt,
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  Speaker 4: do we have that interview? Why don't we play that?
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  Speaker 4: You know, why don't we play it now before the
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  Speaker 4: draft starts?
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  Speaker 7: Sure?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, So this is today with us.
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  Speaker 9: Third overall pick Drake May Drake, What have the last
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  Speaker 9: eighteen hours been like for you?
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  Speaker 10: Since you've been selected?
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  Speaker 11: All it's been off, It's been a world wind. There's
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  Speaker 11: a lot of a lot, a lot of moving parts,
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  Speaker 11: a lot of unknown before the draft light and last
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  Speaker 11: night and just one of the best nights of my
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  Speaker 11: life and carry over into today here in Gillette Stadium,
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  Speaker 11: visit the lighthouse, kind of did the whole deal, met
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  Speaker 11: mister graft and and uh, you know, the whole yard.
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  Speaker 11: So it's an awesome moment for me and my family.
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  Speaker 11: Good a guy to spend it with them and looking
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  Speaker 11: forward to being a Patriot.
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  Speaker 9: After talking to the Patriots staff, it sounded like it
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  Speaker 9: was a no brainer that they were picking you with
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  Speaker 9: a third overall pick.
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  Speaker 10: Did you see it coming?
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  Speaker 11: I had a feeling that was tough for me. You always,
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  Speaker 11: you know, kind of in this process. You go to
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  Speaker 11: all these visits and you know, you think you do well,
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  Speaker 11: you never really know. They never tell you because they
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  Speaker 11: don't want to kind of show their hands. So I
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  Speaker 11: kind of had a feeling, you know, love this place
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  Speaker 11: and you know they all about winning and working hard,
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  Speaker 11: and I like I fit right in and just looking
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  Speaker 11: forward to, you know, help them do my part.
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  Speaker 10: You landed here in Massachusetts.
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  Speaker 9: You said you went to the lighthouse, you met coach Mayo,
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  Speaker 9: you met the owner, and you got to see your
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  Speaker 9: new home.
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  Speaker 10: What was that tour like?
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, it's uh, it's special. I think that's the first
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  Speaker 11: thing that comes to mind. Being North Carolina kid, and
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  Speaker 11: you know, staying in North Carolina. It's kind of never
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  Speaker 11: been out of never been out of the state, and
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  Speaker 11: now kind of finding my new home, home away from
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  Speaker 11: home and ready to build kind of the next chapter
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  Speaker 11: of my life and get it going.
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  Speaker 9: When people are asked about you, one of the first
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  Speaker 9: things that comes up is your competitive nature.
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  Speaker 10: Do you owe that to growing up being the youngest
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  Speaker 10: of four?
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  Speaker 12: Oh?
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  Speaker 11: I think that's a big part of it. You know,
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  Speaker 11: being the youngest of four. You know they're all six
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  Speaker 11: seven and above, you know, beating me up when you know,
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  Speaker 11: rough from me up when I was younger. So having
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  Speaker 11: the you know, live with that and playing two and
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  Speaker 11: two in the backyard. You know, I was always you know,
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  Speaker 11: the last pick, nobody want to be on my team.
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  Speaker 11: And then kind of from there hit the late Grosberg
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  Speaker 11: and you know, it's just thankful to be the youngest
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  Speaker 11: and you know, I'm an instigator, so that's that's kind
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  Speaker 11: of my role in the family. I just think we'll
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  Speaker 11: have them and have sports be such a big part
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  Speaker 11: of our life.
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  Speaker 10: Drake, we're sitting in the very seats.
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  Speaker 9: Well, fans will have the opportunity to watch you play
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  Speaker 9: out there at Jellette Stadium.
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  Speaker 10: What do you see as you look out there on
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  Speaker 10: the field.
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  Speaker 11: I think it's special. First time in Jellette, you know,
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  Speaker 11: come on out, one of the you know, the best
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  Speaker 11: stay in the NFL in the best city. So let's
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  Speaker 11: go and look forward to the season.
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  Speaker 10: Thank you so much, Drake, and welcome to New England.
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  Speaker 4: Awesome go Pat Okay, no disrespect to tomorrow. But I
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  Speaker 4: was talking about the interview that we did. But that's
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  Speaker 4: so we'll do that later.
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  Speaker 10: We have time. Do we have like four hours?
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  Speaker 4: I know, but we need to do back to back interview.
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  Speaker 5: We shouldn't. We shouldn't.
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  Speaker 8: No, no, when we when we run out of steam, yeah,
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  Speaker 8: later like nine o'clock to night weekend.
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  Speaker 5: We can run it through the week next week.
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  Speaker 8: But I just I admire how much energy he'd like you,
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  Speaker 8: I mean Tamara's interview. Then he came in here talk
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  Speaker 8: to us, and it's just it's it's always amazing to me.
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  Speaker 8: These kids' heads must be spinning after Pro days, the
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  Speaker 8: combine the uncertainty of the draft, they all the rumors
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  Speaker 8: that you know, where you're gonna be going, where you're
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  Speaker 8: gonna be picking, some team wants you, somebody doesn't want
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  Speaker 8: you. You know, all all of a sudden, negative stories come out,
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  Speaker 8: and you know, he's just he seems like he's been
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  Speaker 8: able to block it out, and you know, it's just
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  Speaker 8: it's a hard year, I think for any rookie going
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  Speaker 8: through all that and then having to go right into
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  Speaker 8: kind of the OTAs and and you know, they get
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  Speaker 8: a little bit of break before training camp. So it's
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  Speaker 8: always hard to be a rookie. But he seems like
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  Speaker 8: so far, the first twenty four twenty hours, he's uh,
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  Speaker 8: he's been handling all right.
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  Speaker 11: So far.
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  Speaker 4: Kind of car do you think he's gonna drive? Because
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  Speaker 4: you know, if he's wanting to see Toyota's best offer answer,
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  Speaker 4: including those not seen on TV, he can go to
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  Speaker 4: deals from the official vehicle of the New England Patriots. Toyota.
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  Speaker 4: Let's go get Drake May a car.
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  Speaker 7: Or some weapons maybe, yeah, or that's what offensive tackle. Yeah,
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  Speaker 7: you know, work work car.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, So Drake May. We'll talk more about him as
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  Speaker 4: the show goes on. But rumors today, First of all,
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  Speaker 4: there were you know, reportedly a couple of calls at
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  Speaker 4: least to the Patriots to move out of three.
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  Speaker 8: Yep, yeah that one. What was the one deal? I'm sorry, Minnesota, Minnesota.
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  Speaker 5: Last night there were tweets.
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  Speaker 7: That in the Giants in the Giants, yeah, not.
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  Speaker 4: So Minnesota reportedly again, this is all nothing's official offering
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  Speaker 4: their eleven, their twenty third in one next year.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I love Paul, I mean I agree
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  Speaker 8: with what Paul said when we're getting ready. I mean,
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  Speaker 8: I t you up for for your I mean I'd
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  Speaker 8: be down with I mean, I love Drake May. I
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  Speaker 8: wouldn't have been totally crazy, I find myself if they
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  Speaker 8: had done that one.
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  Speaker 5: You know, not to go off Fred, I'm fine that
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  Speaker 5: Drake May was their pick.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, two first round picks this year, two first
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  Speaker 8: round picks next year.
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  Speaker 4: I mean not too No, no, you're swapping for a
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  Speaker 4: swap next year. You get no.
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  Speaker 8: But I'm saying the Patriots would then have two first
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  Speaker 8: round picks this year. Yeah, and they would have two
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  Speaker 8: first round picks next year, just in totality, not what
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  Speaker 8: they're actually picking up. But you know that's just Look,
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  Speaker 8: that's four first round picks that you know.
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  Speaker 11: You would have.
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  Speaker 5: I would have been interested in that. I, like I said,
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  Speaker 5: I'm fine that they didn't do it and they picked
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  Speaker 5: Drake May. Yeah, I would have been interested in.
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  Speaker 7: I would not have been. I just think that the
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  Speaker 7: league told you that this quarterback class is pretty good
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  Speaker 7: by taking six in the top twelve. They also told
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  Speaker 7: you next year's quarterback class stinks because they're not taking
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  Speaker 7: bow knicks at twelfth overall if they think that there's
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  Speaker 7: going to be quarterbacks next year. I just don't think
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  Speaker 7: that he has that kind of value in a normal
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  Speaker 7: draft this year. I think what you're looking at is,
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  Speaker 7: you know, next year, maybe there's one or two guys
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  Speaker 7: that would be at the top of the draft. And
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  Speaker 7: if you don't have the number one overall pick and
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  Speaker 7: Shorter Sanders decides that he's not going to play for
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  Speaker 7: the Patriots because his dad says so, then then where
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  Speaker 7: are you? You know, I just at the end of
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  Speaker 7: the day, do you think any of these teams that
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  Speaker 7: traded up for a Hall to get Patrick Mahomes or
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  Speaker 7: Josh Allen or whoever or whatever, do you think they
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  Speaker 7: regret doing those moves. And I don't think the Patriots
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  Speaker 7: will regret I'm not taking it.
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  Speaker 9: I think it's tough because when you looked at this
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  Speaker 9: season and the quarterbacks before this season even started, like
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  Speaker 9: Jayden Daniels was not projected to be the second overall pick.
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  Speaker 9: I think he did a huge leap this year to
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  Speaker 9: get him to that point. So there could be room
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  Speaker 9: for players next year in college.
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  Speaker 10: To somebody the same leap at least one and get
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  Speaker 10: to mix.
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  Speaker 4: Ye'll merge to be a you know, a bona fide
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  Speaker 4: first round talent, But right now we don't know what
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  Speaker 4: it is.
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  Speaker 5: To Evans point, you'll need six.
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  Speaker 4: Guys to do that well to match this year to.
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  Speaker 5: Be in a situation where this you know, you don't
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  Speaker 5: have to have one pick.
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  Speaker 10: Also, I feel like.
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  Speaker 9: There was a lot of teams this year who were
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  Speaker 9: so desperate for a quarterback, Like a lot of teams
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  Speaker 9: needed one.
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  Speaker 10: It wasn't just like one or two teams.
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  Speaker 7: It was Yeah, but I mean, like, Atlanta was not
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  Speaker 7: desperate for a quarterback and they took Penix because he's
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  Speaker 7: so darned good that they they took him, and they
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  Speaker 7: are going to sit him now behind Kirk Cousins at
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  Speaker 7: least for a year. So I just I look at
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  Speaker 7: Penis mccar orthy bow Knicks next year. Those guys might
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  Speaker 7: be the best quarterback in that draft based off of
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  Speaker 7: what we know right now. And it's always possible that
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  Speaker 7: somebody can emerge. It's always possible, but it's not gonna
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  Speaker 7: be six guys that are gonna emerge. It's gonna be one.
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  Speaker 5: And that's the big unknown that you don't know because
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  Speaker 5: a lot some of the teams that took quarterbacks this
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  Speaker 5: year were not desperate to take quarterbacks. Chicago wasn't desperate
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  Speaker 5: to take a quarterback. They got in a position where
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  Speaker 5: they had the ability to take a guy that they
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  Speaker 5: loved and they said, we're pulling the plug on the
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  Speaker 5: old guy and we're gonna go and start over again
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  Speaker 5: next year. If they had the number one pick, they probably,
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  Speaker 5: you know, if they were in the same spot, they
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  Speaker 5: probably would say, I'll stick with Justin Fields another year. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: and write it out. But Caleb Williams was good enough
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  Speaker 5: to sort of reset, and you know he already Evan
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  Speaker 5: already used Atlanta. I think there's some there's a lot
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  Speaker 5: of teams that wanted a quarterback of the future that
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  Speaker 5: didn't get them. You know, like Vegas, the Rams, There's
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  Speaker 5: there's a lot of teams spots they're gonna be Seattle. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: there's a lot of teams that need quarterbacks that didn't
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  Speaker 5: get them.
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  Speaker 8: Is the NFC North the most interesting division of football now?
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  Speaker 8: I mean I find it fascinating with what Detroit's doing,
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  Speaker 8: level green Bay is doing, Chicago, some Detroit, I well,
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  Speaker 8: I mean I just think over all, I mean, I
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  Speaker 8: love me some green Bay a little bit more, to
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  Speaker 8: be honest, But you know, all of them are kind
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  Speaker 8: of putting something together. You know, Minnesota clearly they need
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  Speaker 8: JJ McCarthy to hit. But you know, there's a lot
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  Speaker 8: of a lot of talent in that division. It's gonna
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  Speaker 8: be it's gonna be really interesting to see, you know,
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  Speaker 8: if Detroit is able to kind of hold on to that,
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  Speaker 8: or you know, is Jordan Love gonna take another step
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  Speaker 8: forward this year? I just I think it's a it's
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  Speaker 8: a really competitive division.
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  Speaker 4: It's good for the NFL.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, it's good for the league, good for the league,
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  Speaker 8: good for theer, it's good for the Goose.
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  Speaker 4: That and Baker Mayfield, good for the league. Oh my gosh,
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  Speaker 4: So go ahead.
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  Speaker 8: Well I was gonna say. The other thing that I
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  Speaker 8: thought was interesting was the Patriots made it inquired about
• 13:53
  Speaker 8: Justin Herbert Airbert. Herbert Herbert, Yeah, hockey brand Patriots and
• 13:59
  Speaker 8: the John Yeah, yeah, called the bluff, called the bluff.
• 14:02
  Speaker 7: I like that.
• 14:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 14:03
  Speaker 10: See, I kept mentioning I would love to take him.
• 14:07
  Speaker 5: Oh you J McCarthy enough to the one that wanted
• 14:10
  Speaker 5: to trade for a guy was not traded.
• 14:13
  Speaker 4: That's not a question they got. Question, was with Harbaugh
• 14:16
  Speaker 4: really that infatuated with JJ McCarthy that he'd be willing
• 14:20
  Speaker 4: to give up Herbert? And the answer is no, you
• 14:23
  Speaker 4: like him, You like him really?
• 14:24
  Speaker 8: You like McCarthy.
• 14:26
  Speaker 10: Hurt.
• 14:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 14:27
  Speaker 7: I think they clearly uh loved Joe Alt from the beginning,
• 14:32
  Speaker 7: and all this was just smoke about J. J. McCarthy.
• 14:35
  Speaker 7: JJ McCarthy went exactly where JJ McCarthy should have went.
• 14:39
  Speaker 7: He was quarterback five. He went tenth overall to Minnesota
• 14:43
  Speaker 7: like that, That's exactly with the situation that he should
• 14:46
  Speaker 7: have landed in and he him going two or three.
• 14:49
  Speaker 7: I don't think was ever in a serious consideration for
• 14:53
  Speaker 7: either the Commanders or the Patriots.
• 14:55
  Speaker 5: I think that's a team that really did a good job.
• 14:58
  Speaker 5: And I don't love McCarthy, you know that. But they
• 15:01
  Speaker 5: didn't give up any resources. They stood firm, you know,
• 15:05
  Speaker 5: they slid up one spot and they were able to
• 15:08
  Speaker 5: get the guy they wanted. And I think because of
• 15:10
  Speaker 5: the reasons that Evan says that, I think that's the
• 15:13
  Speaker 5: guy that best fit with Minnesota. You know, he's the
• 15:16
  Speaker 5: guy that can you can kind of plug him in
• 15:18
  Speaker 5: and get something because they need someone to play right away.
• 15:20
  Speaker 8: Did you guys see any scuttle but about Joe Walton
• 15:23
  Speaker 8: Slater and how they plan to manage that?
• 15:24
  Speaker 4: Was that?
• 15:25
  Speaker 7: I mean that Joe All going to the other side
• 15:26
  Speaker 7: is going to the right probably interesting. I was a
• 15:29
  Speaker 7: little surprised about that pick just because all it's a
• 15:32
  Speaker 7: great player, but he's not a people mover like he's not.
• 15:35
  Speaker 7: He's not a road grading offensive lineman. And I I
• 15:39
  Speaker 7: just with Harbaugh, you would have thought that he would
• 15:41
  Speaker 7: have favored like I was mentioning J. C. Latham last
• 15:45
  Speaker 7: night somebody that's a little bit more of that run blocker. First,
• 15:49
  Speaker 7: you know, Alton athlete, he's a pass protector, so as
• 15:52
  Speaker 7: Slater to be honest, and you know, maybe we all
• 15:55
  Speaker 7: think that Jim Harbaugh is going to try to play
• 15:57
  Speaker 7: Jim Harbor ball and run the ball fifty times. But
• 16:00
  Speaker 7: maybe we're wrong. Maybe they're going to pass the ball
• 16:02
  Speaker 7: fifty times because they got all these pass protectors now, so.
• 16:05
  Speaker 10: You're wasting justin Herbert's talent if you do that.
• 16:08
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I agree to an extent, but I also think
• 16:10
  Speaker 7: that they probably feel like, well, if we can get
• 16:15
  Speaker 7: Herbert extremely efficient on thirty dropbacks instead of making him
• 16:19
  Speaker 7: go high volume at fifty dropbacks, then it maybe it
• 16:22
  Speaker 7: maximizes him that direction. You know, like there's that school.
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: Is there such a thing as you know, some quarterbacks
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: need to kind of get into that rhythm, you know,
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: like it you know, like a three point shooter, you
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: need to shoot three pointers to get it into that rhythm.
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: If you come off and you're just expected to hit
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: one late in the game, it's a lot tougher than you.
• 16:41
  Speaker 8: It's kind of doing when Bledsoe would get going right, Like, yeah.
• 16:44
  Speaker 7: I think the Patriots disdrafted one of those guys. Yea,
• 16:47
  Speaker 7: you know Drake May when when he's on, he's on,
• 16:50
  Speaker 7: and when it gets shaky for him is when he
• 16:53
  Speaker 7: does miss some throws early on in the game and
• 16:55
  Speaker 7: he doesn't get into that rhythm that you mentioned. He's
• 16:58
  Speaker 7: He's a streaky pass for sure. So I mean that's
• 17:02
  Speaker 7: part of the inconsistencies that people talk about that they're
• 17:04
  Speaker 7: gonna have to iron out here. Are you know, if
• 17:07
  Speaker 7: he doesn't see it go through the hoop a couple
• 17:09
  Speaker 7: of times in the first quarter, is he going to
• 17:10
  Speaker 7: be able to come back later on in the game
• 17:13
  Speaker 7: and be able to make the throws he's going to
• 17:14
  Speaker 7: have to make. He's not always consistent in that regard.
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's one of the reasons why I think you
• 17:20
  Speaker 5: see a lot of those guys have success in the
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: two minute drill. You know, even if they have a
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: shaky half, you know, all of a sudden, they'll close
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: the first half and they'll put to put a good Now.
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: Part of that is the defense. It's kind of you
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: know set up. Yeah, you know, no big plays and
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: all that, but I think that you see, you know,
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: when you're no huddle and you're throwing every play. All
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: of a sudden, the guy in you know, finishes a
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: drive six for eight and they put a field goal up?
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: Right, Why was he doing that early?
• 17:46
  Speaker 13: Yeah, you know exactly situational somewhat yep.
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: Then we have the Patriots sitting at thirty four, the
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: second pick in the second round, Bills up for the
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: Bills are sitting on top of them, and there's rumors
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: of out you know, possibly Ayuk or Deebo Samuel from
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: the forty nine ers, And you know, it looks like
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: both Bills and Patriots would be looking for a wide receiver.
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: You know, they're in the market. What do you think
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: the Bills are thinking with the late maneuverings that they
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: had at the end of that round. What were they
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: trying to set themselves up for?
• 18:22
  Speaker 8: I mean, get out of the first round. It seems
• 18:24
  Speaker 8: like I mean, you know, we talked a lot about
• 18:26
  Speaker 8: them today. If just if they really wanted a guy
• 18:28
  Speaker 8: like ad Mitchell. Anybody thinks they need a receiver, right,
• 18:30
  Speaker 8: they lost their two best receivers. I mean, that's that
• 18:33
  Speaker 8: seems obvious. But if they wanted a d Mitchell, they
• 18:36
  Speaker 8: really believed in them wouldn't they just taken them, And
• 18:39
  Speaker 8: you know, why are they trying to.
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: Unless they they are sure that the receivers that were
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: available when they were picking are still going to be
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: available if they move out.
• 18:46
  Speaker 9: Or or they feel like the guys that already went
• 18:49
  Speaker 9: are the elite guys that they would have wanted to
• 18:51
  Speaker 9: replace Diggs and they would rather just get Brandon Ayug
• 18:54
  Speaker 9: or Debo versus getting one of these guys that they're
• 18:56
  Speaker 9: going to have to develop.
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: But they're not ready, and now they don't have a
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: first round pick to give them, so they can't even
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: be asked for it.
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: The whole thing is weird to me with with Buffalo
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: because I just don't know what They seemed hell bent
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: on not taking a player in the first round. Yeah,
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: and I just don't.
• 19:13
  Speaker 8: Just we don't want a fifth year option.
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: What's in?
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: It's a burden?
• 19:15
  Speaker 8: I don't know.
• 19:16
  Speaker 7: Money. Yeah, but is it is it?
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: Really? Is it that much?
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: I don't think there's really much of a difference between
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: bottom of the second thirty two and thirty bottom of
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: the first, top of the second.
• 19:24
  Speaker 7: Thirty two and thirty three not so much. But that's
• 19:26
  Speaker 7: what they took. Yeah, but they hadn't that that's not
• 19:28
  Speaker 7: their original selection.
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: Right they went from twenty so twenty eight and thirty four.
• 19:32
  Speaker 7: I mean it's not we're not talking about fifty million dollars.
• 19:35
  Speaker 7: But like the Buffalo Bills have no money, like we
• 19:37
  Speaker 7: we know this, Like they're selling twenty five percent of
• 19:40
  Speaker 7: their team.
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: But you can't tell me the difference between twenty eight
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: and thirty three is not worth that fifty year option
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: having that option, even take it up with.
• 19:49
  Speaker 7: The Palukas because I.
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: Just listen, I criticize, you know, the Patriots when.
• 19:54
  Speaker 7: They rule is yeah, yeah, but I wrongowner, Sorry, I could.
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: Have, you know, like the Patriots when they you know,
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: sort of played around a couple of years ago and
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: went from whatever it was twenty one down to twenty
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: eight and lost a guy like Trent McDuffie. I I
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: don't really the money is negligible when you're down at
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: that point. Since the whole New CBA anyway, I just
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: I hear Buffalo is gonna take players at some point.
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: Why not take good ones or the best ones that
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: you can? Now clearly the second trade everybody in there.
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: I mean, if I knew it, everybody else knew that
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: Carolina was taken Laget, so clearly Buffalo didn't want Laget,
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: so they were comfortable letting Carolina take them. But I
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: find it hard to believe that they didn't want the
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: guy Kansas City took, they didn't want the guy San
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: Francisco took. They didn't want the guy that Carolina took.
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: And you and you're sure that you're right now, like
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: we need a receiver. We're just gonna let all of
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: these receivers go off the board because we know just
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: I gotta call it. You know, it always accused me crazy,
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: you know, a defender of all the teams in the division.
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: I think that was dumb.
• 21:05
  Speaker 7: I think it's crazy too because that they handed Xavier
• 21:08
  Speaker 7: Worthy to the Chiefs, who are one of their biggest rivals,
• 21:12
  Speaker 7: and they're the Chiefs are starving for receivers too, and
• 21:15
  Speaker 7: now they gave them basically a Tyreek Hill two point
• 21:18
  Speaker 7: zero to just get their ass beat in the playoffs
• 21:21
  Speaker 7: again by them in a couple of months. It's like
• 21:23
  Speaker 7: the Bills. They were on a heater. They draft Josh Allen,
• 21:27
  Speaker 7: trade for Diggs. Their front office was as hot as
• 21:30
  Speaker 7: any front office in the league. The last couple of drafts.
• 21:33
  Speaker 7: I don't know what the Bills are doing. I don't
• 21:35
  Speaker 7: even out for them as a good pick. But now
• 21:38
  Speaker 7: you're just you're not making bad picks. You're just deciding
• 21:41
  Speaker 7: I'm not picking anymore.
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't get that.
• 21:44
  Speaker 7: In Kaid. I also just kind of thought like, he's fine,
• 21:47
  Speaker 7: you know, fine receiving tight end. But I don't I
• 21:51
  Speaker 7: didn't even get that pick to begin with either.
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: I know you didn't like it, but it's good.
• 21:55
  Speaker 7: It's just as all of it is just shocking from
• 21:57
  Speaker 7: Buffalo's point of view of what they're doing. Like if
• 21:59
  Speaker 7: they traded back and accumulated a lot more picks, I
• 22:02
  Speaker 7: could understand it, because they're if they're cash poor, then
• 22:06
  Speaker 7: now we have draft picks, and all these draft picks
• 22:07
  Speaker 7: are cheap, and we're just gonna draft players and pay
• 22:10
  Speaker 7: them nothing, which would make sense. But they didn't even
• 22:12
  Speaker 7: get that many picks back for the trades that they made.
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: They moved from the sixth to the fifth round or
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: something like that.
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: That second, is there any chance that by what they
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: do to start this draft today, whether it's trading or
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: you know, an existing player or what that will say?
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: Oh okay, now I understand.
• 22:30
  Speaker 8: I really wonder that, Fred because I mean, you know,
• 22:33
  Speaker 8: they could they could take a d Mitchell right now,
• 22:35
  Speaker 8: but I just I don't think.
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: Anyway expecting another trade.
• 22:38
  Speaker 8: Yeah, that's none of those guys at the receiver position.
• 22:41
  Speaker 13: And I feel the same way about the Patriots.
• 22:42
  Speaker 8: Like if the Patriots traded down a little bit with
• 22:45
  Speaker 8: this second spot, I wouldn't hate it.
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: So you know they're doing the Belichick draft.
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like let's let's.
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: Get you know, four or five fourth and fifth and
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: sixth round picks instead of taking a first round or
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: top of the second.
• 22:57
  Speaker 8: It's just it's hard to look at what the Bills
• 22:58
  Speaker 8: are doing and not look at it through a Patriots lens,
• 23:01
  Speaker 8: which you know, I know Josh Allen is established, but
• 23:04
  Speaker 8: I mean all we hear is get guys weapons support
• 23:06
  Speaker 8: these quarterbacks have, you know, guys that can make plays.
• 23:09
  Speaker 8: They talked about last night what an important player Stefan
• 23:11
  Speaker 8: Diggs was in important moments.
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: You know they.
• 23:14
  Speaker 8: If I was a Buffalo fan right now, I would
• 23:16
  Speaker 8: I would be kind of like, what the hell is
• 23:17
  Speaker 8: going on there?
• 23:19
  Speaker 7: I had so I went to school up there, So
• 23:22
  Speaker 7: trust me, I have friends that are that are Bills
• 23:24
  Speaker 7: fans and they all thought that they were going to
• 23:27
  Speaker 7: trade out for Romadunesday last night and they went the
• 23:30
  Speaker 7: opposite direction. And trust me, the group chat is not
• 23:32
  Speaker 7: happy about it. I can tell you that.
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: We're talking about Adie Mitchell. You know, a lot of
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: people say he's the best receiver left on the board,
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: but there's some stories coming out now about you know,
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: diabetes and not handling it well.
• 23:48
  Speaker 8: This sounds like some character concerns and and uh, you know,
• 23:51
  Speaker 8: I also think he didn't have a great you know, combine,
• 23:54
  Speaker 8: and I don't know, it's a It's interesting because I think,
• 23:57
  Speaker 8: on one hand, I'd be excited if they took him,
• 23:58
  Speaker 8: But right now, I I'm kind of feeling like the Patriots.
• 24:01
  Speaker 8: I feel like he's going to continue to fall. And
• 24:04
  Speaker 8: when I look at this thirty third pick, there's nobody
• 24:08
  Speaker 8: I really feel like you got to have this guy
• 24:09
  Speaker 8: at this spot. He's going to be gone. Please God, Bills,
• 24:12
  Speaker 8: don't pick him in this. We want this. I don't
• 24:13
  Speaker 8: really feel that way right now about a particular guy.
• 24:16
  Speaker 8: And we've been talking upstairs a lot about Cooper Dejen
• 24:18
  Speaker 8: who you know, during the During the lead up to this,
• 24:21
  Speaker 8: Evan had pointed out as you know, kind of a
• 24:23
  Speaker 8: prototypical Patriots defensive back. And you know, I think we
• 24:27
  Speaker 8: have talked about free safety, cornerback Nickel. I mean, all
• 24:30
  Speaker 8: those are kind of needs, and he's a guy who
• 24:32
  Speaker 8: could kind of fit into all those needs. So I
• 24:35
  Speaker 8: know every nobody wants defense, but at this point, I
• 24:39
  Speaker 8: could see an argument being made that he's the safest
• 24:42
  Speaker 8: pick for a need right now that could step right in,
• 24:45
  Speaker 8: that could play in this secondary and play a role immediately.
• 24:48
  Speaker 8: Whereas some of these receivers there's some questions, questions are
• 24:51
  Speaker 8: coming now with the tackles and with the receiver.
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I know you got to You just drafted a quarterback.
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: You have to address the offense. We went over this last.
• 25:00
  Speaker 10: I definitely think with Cooper de Jeans a really good player.
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I would. I don't want any part of a
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: defensive back now, particularly a versatile one.
• 25:11
  Speaker 7: Don't be like that.
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: But why, but why why can I not be like that?
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: I don't want one of those. I want something to
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: help the offense. I'm with Fred.
• 25:20
  Speaker 9: I am gonna take a card out of what Jordan Reid,
• 25:23
  Speaker 9: our dear friend, tweeted yesterday. He said, drafting offensive tackles
• 25:29
  Speaker 9: offensive lineman period is like getting underwear or sucks for Christmas.
• 25:33
  Speaker 10: Yes, you're not thrilled about them, but you need them.
• 25:35
  Speaker 9: And I think right now that's what the Patriots need
• 25:38
  Speaker 9: after drafting this young quarterback.
• 25:40
  Speaker 10: You need to protect them. And that's what I hope they.
• 25:42
  Speaker 7: Picked for the tackles. They they fell off hard. I
• 25:46
  Speaker 7: mean they all the tackles like gy Goes at the
• 25:48
  Speaker 7: end of the first round last night. I saw Daniel
• 25:51
  Speaker 7: Jeremiah tweet about this today. He had eight year one
• 25:54
  Speaker 7: starter grades on tackles and all eight of them are gone.
• 25:57
  Speaker 7: So you're sorry. Talking about developmental guys like Kingsley Sewe
• 26:00
  Speaker 7: and Matilla Blake Fisher. Uh, those guys have a lot
• 26:04
  Speaker 7: of really good traits and have a really really high upside.
• 26:07
  Speaker 7: But I think if you're Elliott wolf one thing you
• 26:10
  Speaker 7: have to consider you just took the trade based quarterback,
• 26:13
  Speaker 7: like you just took the high upside the ceiling player
• 26:17
  Speaker 7: at quarterback. If you then come in the top of
• 26:19
  Speaker 7: the second round and take Kingsley See and Matia, if
• 26:22
  Speaker 7: both those guys don't develop the way that you hope
• 26:25
  Speaker 7: that they will, you're gonna get fired. And like you're
• 26:28
  Speaker 7: also in a position where it could happen two or
• 26:31
  Speaker 7: to three years down the line from now, like it's
• 26:33
  Speaker 7: not necessarily gonna happen overnight for either of those guys.
• 26:37
  Speaker 7: So that's a really it's a boomer bust approach if
• 26:39
  Speaker 7: that's what they go on.
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: In the back of the envelope. Guys. Someone I think
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: they have to take is Brandon Coleman. Oh well, he
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: speaks German.
• 26:49
  Speaker 7: So there you go, German guy and Frog. Yeah, lots
• 26:53
  Speaker 7: of connections upstairs for us.
• 26:54
  Speaker 8: That's always thinking big picture.
• 26:56
  Speaker 13: Yeah, he's connecting depths.
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: But he's not working on mechanics.
• 26:59
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 27:00
  Speaker 8: I would say, though, as I sit here right now,
• 27:02
  Speaker 8: I think the most appealing to me would be to
• 27:04
  Speaker 8: trade down a little bit and try to get another
• 27:05
  Speaker 8: pick today and have three picks today and you know,
• 27:08
  Speaker 8: wait a little bit, and you know some of those tackles,
• 27:11
  Speaker 8: some of the wide receives, other wide receivers, why not.
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: Why not trade up for just one with the third pick,
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: the third round pick, trade up and get two second rounders.
• 27:19
  Speaker 7: Oh well, I think you want. There's nobody I want
• 27:21
  Speaker 7: right now, though, I want to like three picks today.
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: This draft is worse than I thought. You no one
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: wants anybody.
• 27:26
  Speaker 7: Well, I want Adie Mitchell, but apparently he's a malcontent,
• 27:29
  Speaker 7: So I like, now I don't. I don't want to guy.
• 27:33
  Speaker 10: You have to babysit.
• 27:34
  Speaker 7: If he runs a four to three at six two, yeah, sure.
• 27:37
  Speaker 10: But what if he doesn't.
• 27:38
  Speaker 9: He has the traits, but it doesn't work out in
• 27:39
  Speaker 9: the field because he's too much of a head case
• 27:41
  Speaker 9: off the field.
• 27:41
  Speaker 7: Did it not work out on the field for Texas
• 27:43
  Speaker 7: when he put up eleven touchdowns last year and had
• 27:45
  Speaker 7: him in the college football playoffs? I mean, like, I
• 27:48
  Speaker 7: understand that this guy didn't have to be managed job.
• 27:51
  Speaker 7: I get that. That's why you put that's why you
• 27:54
  Speaker 7: that's why you have support systems in your in your
• 27:57
  Speaker 7: football team.
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: I separate those two things completely. Like the babetes thing
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: is significant, Like if he can't you know, I don't
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: know his health situation. If he can't play because of health,
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: If he can't play, that's a whole different thing. The
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: malcontent stuff, you know, I need to know more about, Yeah,
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: Like I need like, is he just to be clearing
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: like domestic uns you like hitting with I don't want
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: to know, you know, if it's that kind of he's moody.
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: I don't want him now he's moody. I'll take him
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: in a heart I watch I watched the Alabama game, like,
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: I'll take him he's he's moody. You know they and
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: this isn't me reporting this or anything. McGinn reported this
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: that one day he's everybody's best friend. The next day
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: he's miserable.
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: You know who is moody when he got here, Teddy
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: Bruce Ki. Nobody was more moody than Teddy Brice him.
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: He left probably around the corner right now.
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: In the movie, I think better.
• 28:49
  Speaker 7: There was there was, he was, There was a There
• 28:52
  Speaker 7: was a quote from from the beginning story that in
• 28:56
  Speaker 7: the morning Ady Mitchell would be a prick and then
• 29:00
  Speaker 7: they would have lunch and ad Mitchell would be a
• 29:02
  Speaker 7: great guy.
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: Blood sugar goes blood sugar. Was he not eating bread?
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: So that.
• 29:08
  Speaker 7: I guess some of the concern is that he's a
• 29:10
  Speaker 7: kid and he's not really he's not doing the right
• 29:13
  Speaker 7: things to keep his blood sugar levels in the right spot.
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: It sounds like that stuff can what I'm saying.
• 29:21
  Speaker 8: It sounds like a Snicker sponsorship, you know those ones
• 29:23
  Speaker 8: where he's painting the ass and then he has.
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: Like I'm all in on him.
• 29:28
  Speaker 7: That's all. That's because I have I have to grow up.
• 29:31
  Speaker 8: And understand how to manage what's going on with him.
• 29:34
  Speaker 8: So I mean, there's no question that you know, he
• 29:36
  Speaker 8: has the talent. I mean, there's a handful of guys
• 29:38
  Speaker 8: right now that are left over the next couple of
• 29:40
  Speaker 8: rounds that have the size and and you know, some
• 29:43
  Speaker 8: kind of talent. I wouldn't necessarily say they all have
• 29:45
  Speaker 8: the speed, but you know, contested catchability, that's what the
• 29:48
  Speaker 8: Patriots need, and you know, appealing is some of these
• 29:50
  Speaker 8: interior quick receivers are. It's like you need a presence
• 29:53
  Speaker 8: on the outside. Like I mean, as much as we
• 29:55
  Speaker 8: you know, gave Devonte Parker plenty of deserved crap like
• 29:58
  Speaker 8: that was him, Like that's what he did. They had
• 30:00
  Speaker 8: him there for the last couple of years, and you know,
• 30:03
  Speaker 8: I think that's some kind of role that they have
• 30:04
  Speaker 8: to be. When we talk about ke Coleman, a similar
• 30:07
  Speaker 8: kind of body type, contested catch, big guy, big hands.
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: That kind of things are telling us that this was
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: a deep draft for wide receiver. You can get a
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: good receiver into the second and even third rounds if
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: that's the case. I want the best receiver left with
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: this pick.
• 30:23
  Speaker 7: If you can get him on the.
• 30:29
  Speaker 10: It's probably.
• 30:32
  Speaker 7: I have I have it as Adie Mitchell and his
• 30:34
  Speaker 7: own tier compared to the rest of these guys. I
• 30:36
  Speaker 7: had him in the same tier as Brian Thomas Junior
• 30:39
  Speaker 7: and Xavier Worthy, and that right below the top three
• 30:42
  Speaker 7: guys right in that next first round tier. Then you
• 30:45
  Speaker 7: have Keon Coleman, Xavier Leagued who went last night, Lad McConkie. Yeah,
• 30:49
  Speaker 7: that type of tier.
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Boogler has you know, of the guys left, he's
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: got McConkie. Then just two people, you know, two slots
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: down is Mitchell and then just a few more slots. Yeah.
• 31:01
  Speaker 10: Is lad McConkie too similar to like a Pop Douglas.
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: Though, Yeah, that's my problem with him.
• 31:06
  Speaker 7: No, I think lad McConkie is misunderstood.
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: Well, he can he could go.
• 31:10
  Speaker 7: Lad mcconk is an outside receiver. Yeah, like he Lad
• 31:13
  Speaker 7: McConkie is not Julian Edelman.
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: He's more quick than fast.
• 31:17
  Speaker 7: Well, he's very quick off the line though, so he
• 31:21
  Speaker 7: can he can burst off the line and throttle down
• 31:23
  Speaker 7: and really get up the field.
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: Fred doesn't know what to do with mcconkeye because he
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: actually has skills McConkie.
• 31:29
  Speaker 7: The comparison that I've used for McConkie is Chris Olave,
• 31:32
  Speaker 7: Like he's not He's not Edelman, he's not Wes Welker,
• 31:35
  Speaker 7: like that's that's not his game. He's the guy that
• 31:38
  Speaker 7: wants to get up the field and then he's going
• 31:39
  Speaker 7: to break off routes at like the ten to twelve
• 31:42
  Speaker 7: yard range off that. So he's an intermediate guy, I
• 31:45
  Speaker 7: would say mostly, but he's.
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: He's a quarterback who can anticipate. He'd be a great yeah.
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 31:51
  Speaker 7: And I think the other thing with him is there
• 31:53
  Speaker 7: are some concerns about some of the injuries he had
• 31:56
  Speaker 7: last year. Uh, he had back and ankle injuries that
• 31:59
  Speaker 7: were nagging all last year and that's why he didn't
• 32:02
  Speaker 7: play very much. He had he caught thirty out of
• 32:04
  Speaker 7: thirty eight passes that were thrown his way last year,
• 32:06
  Speaker 7: which is insane, but he only had thirty eight targets
• 32:09
  Speaker 7: because he didn't play. So there are some We're at
• 32:13
  Speaker 7: the point of the draft where everybody's got concerns, Like
• 32:15
  Speaker 7: Kean Coleman ran a four six eighty. Mitchell's got diabetes apparently.
• 32:20
  Speaker 7: You know, Ladi McCaughey's Lad McCaughey's a little bit injury prone.
• 32:23
  Speaker 7: He's a little bit smaller, a little bit more, you know,
• 32:25
  Speaker 7: slighter frame. Same with Troy Franklin. Like all these guys
• 32:29
  Speaker 7: have trades that are intriguing, but all these players have
• 32:33
  Speaker 7: warts at this point of the drift.
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: Roman Wilson in there too, and I know he's more
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: of a slot. Yeah, he's just a really good player.
• 32:38
  Speaker 7: He is, and he he's small. Yeah, so that's that's
• 32:42
  Speaker 7: his wart.
• 32:43
  Speaker 8: Okay, so best guess I'm gonna say trade down, trade down, Yeah,
• 32:49
  Speaker 8: not far, not far, But I'm gonna say some other
• 32:52
  Speaker 8: team was sitting on somebody they really want, they need
• 32:55
  Speaker 8: to fill in need, like for a cornerback like a
• 32:57
  Speaker 8: Cooper de Jeene. Yeah, and that they're gonna make them.
• 32:59
  Speaker 8: You know, some team will make a move up. I
• 33:03
  Speaker 8: mean that's I mean. Look, and I like, I'd pretty
• 33:06
  Speaker 8: much be happy with any receiver. I mean, they, like
• 33:08
  Speaker 8: Evan said, they have their awards. I'm willing to overlook
• 33:10
  Speaker 8: those if they believe in him at this point, but
• 33:12
  Speaker 8: like everybody has some questions.
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: I would like Troy Franklin, I like him, I think
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: a little bit more than Evan. Does you know Malachi Corley?
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: I think, yeah, Evan doesn't like those are guys that
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: they talk to, so I sort of had them on
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: my radar a little bit.
• 33:26
  Speaker 7: I really like Troy Franklin. Normally I try to stick
• 33:29
  Speaker 7: to my guns better than this. I really like Troy
• 33:31
  Speaker 7: Franklin when I watched his film the first time around.
• 33:34
  Speaker 7: But then what happened was head He goes to the
• 33:37
  Speaker 7: combine and like he's tiny, you know, he's real thin,
• 33:40
  Speaker 7: he's he's one. He's he's Taekwon Thornton in terms of
• 33:44
  Speaker 7: the body type. And yeah, and that's scary. And then
• 33:48
  Speaker 7: if you watch him go through the on field work
• 33:50
  Speaker 7: at the combine, he was terrible on the His gauntlet
• 33:54
  Speaker 7: was an absolute disaster. He like looks like he's drunk
• 33:56
  Speaker 7: and he's like weaving like this and you're supposed to
• 33:58
  Speaker 7: go in a straight line over here. Yeah, God, I
• 34:04
  Speaker 7: should stop. But he he just doesn't look coordinated, you know.
• 34:08
  Speaker 7: And and that's Taekwon's problem. Taekwon he got two left feet, like,
• 34:12
  Speaker 7: you know, he can't get out of his own way
• 34:13
  Speaker 7: in that regard. So there's a lot of overlap there
• 34:16
  Speaker 7: between him and Taekwon, just like with ke Coleman. There's
• 34:19
  Speaker 7: a lot of overlap with Nikil Harry like there. That's
• 34:22
  Speaker 7: my concern and that's why if it is a lad Mconky,
• 34:25
  Speaker 7: I would just rather do something different and strike out.
• 34:27
  Speaker 7: Trying to do something different. Doubling down on the same
• 34:31
  Speaker 7: skill set worries me. Just take the guy that's a
• 34:34
  Speaker 7: little bit different. Then, you know, I don't know why
• 34:36
  Speaker 7: we're trying to just Oh, well, we got Taekwon wrong
• 34:39
  Speaker 7: two years ago, so let's just draft another version of Taekwon.
• 34:43
  Speaker 7: I just I don't see the logic.
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: You're saying you would be okay with Mconki.
• 34:46
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I'd be okay with Mconky. I mean, I'd be
• 34:50
  Speaker 7: so exciting just for.
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: You me to I would be very exciting.
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: I will say this, you INVENTEDONK he did and you
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: got don't know how much I'm gonna go that's not
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: a real person. I'm not gonna I'm not trying to
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: like bet Barth. The only reason why he is Georgia
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: if he played for like Georgia Alabama, you know, maybe
• 35:13
  Speaker 5: Ohio State. You know, I have a good chance of
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: knowing you know, two years before you come out of
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: the draft. Otherwise, like, I'm not going to know until
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: they get onto the draft radar. He he was way
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: ahead of the curve. I knew who McConkey was when
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: he was talking about him, but he was way ahead
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: of the curve.
• 35:29
  Speaker 7: Mccauky's been on the draft radar for a couple of
• 35:31
  Speaker 7: years now. Same with Bowers. You know, those two have
• 35:34
  Speaker 7: been kind of the two Georgia weapons that have been
• 35:37
  Speaker 7: all right, these guys are going to get drafted, you know.
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: I was apcial thing with McConkie was like, oh, Fred's
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: gonna love this guy, just another another you know, try.
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: And I was like, you know, because again Georgia's on
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: every week, you know, and You're like, you know what,
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: this guy's not bad. Then I'm like, how do I
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: pretend that I didn't make fun of Fred about lat mcconky.
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: And all of a sudden, like that whole year ends
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: and then it's like into the next season. I'm like,
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: you know, Fred, he hate Slade Bolden. I can't make
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: fun of you. This is a whole different guy. He's
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: pretty good, so.
• 36:10
  Speaker 10: Fun to watch it. Bowl definitely one of my favorite
• 36:12
  Speaker 10: people to watch and.
• 36:13
  Speaker 9: Just having the defenders vote him as like their favorite
• 36:16
  Speaker 9: player to defend.
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like he breaks ankles.
• 36:20
  Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, I was actually surprised that Ricky Piersall went
• 36:24
  Speaker 7: ahead of him. But I think that Ricky Piersa is
• 36:26
  Speaker 7: a little bit of a cleaner prospect that turns out
• 36:28
  Speaker 7: with some of the injury concerns with Lad McConkey, and
• 36:31
  Speaker 7: that's why a little bit better athletic test or two.
• 36:34
  Speaker 7: But the Lad mcconkey's film is definitely better.
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: Another guy that Patriots looked at, right, Yeah, they had
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: him in.
• 36:40
  Speaker 7: Yeah, you know he Pierce All is a good player,
• 36:42
  Speaker 7: really good hands, really tough, can go over the middle
• 36:45
  Speaker 7: of the field, really athletic, like almost more athletic than
• 36:49
  Speaker 7: he even shows on film at times. In terms of
• 36:51
  Speaker 7: the Combine, it was a kind of a surprise how
• 36:54
  Speaker 7: well he tested at the Combine. So we'll see. I
• 36:57
  Speaker 7: just I think all these receivers, I'm kind of with Deuce.
• 37:02
  Speaker 7: I would sort of like to see them trade down
• 37:03
  Speaker 7: and if they really have at Ady Mitchell off the
• 37:06
  Speaker 7: board and he's not an option for them, I think
• 37:09
  Speaker 7: that it's a little early for this tier that we're
• 37:12
  Speaker 7: talking about. The Troy Franklin's the Keon Coleman's like, I
• 37:15
  Speaker 7: wouldn't love it here at thirty four, and if you
• 37:17
  Speaker 7: could add another pick, I would prefer that, all right.
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: So Roger Goodell has taken the stage in Detroit and
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: he's opening up the second round. It's like a musical
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: going on up there. Fletcher Cox cast a thousands on
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: stage with him, people taking selfies and I know somebody
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: with a falcon shirt. Who is that? That's a receiver?
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: I know him?
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: I can't. Yeah, anyway, So we're moments away from the
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: Bills being on the clock.
• 37:45
  Speaker 7: There are some some Twitter whispers that this pick is
• 37:48
  Speaker 7: gonna be Keon Coleman to the Bills.
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: Okay, so that makes sense. You know, I don't love him,
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: but that makes sense. They got to take one of
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: these guys.
• 37:56
  Speaker 7: It awesome. I think he works in Buffalo. I just
• 37:58
  Speaker 7: would be petrified of him here. And I know it's
• 38:00
  Speaker 7: a whole new coaching staff, so who knows, Like, maybe
• 38:02
  Speaker 7: these guys can develop receivers.
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: You go down there, and who better to just say
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: I'm just gonna throw it up to you jump and
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: catch it.
• 38:11
  Speaker 7: Yeah, the catch radious thing is appealing. Yeah, I just those.
• 38:15
  Speaker 8: Guys just don't move my needle, and I don't know.
• 38:16
  Speaker 7: I don't what does move your needle?
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: Mic speed and run after catch like all of a sudden,
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: he wants to trade down if you take them at
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: face value, don't even know them anymore.
• 38:26
  Speaker 7: If you take them at face value. Elliott Wolf has
• 38:28
  Speaker 7: said numerous times that they want to accumulate more picks
• 38:32
  Speaker 7: if they can. They're a draft and developed team and
• 38:34
  Speaker 7: they want to accumulate more draft picks. He hasn't done
• 38:37
  Speaker 7: it yet, obviously only had one pick, but he didn't
• 38:39
  Speaker 7: do the big trade down in the first round. So
• 38:42
  Speaker 7: you have to imagine that it's on their minds if
• 38:44
  Speaker 7: they can get more picks today or tomorrow, that they're
• 38:46
  Speaker 7: going to try to do it.
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: All right, let's take a couple of phone calls before
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: we get into the action. Here, Christians in La. What's
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: up Christian?
• 38:54
  Speaker 14: Hey, you guys, that was a pretty cool draft yesterday.
• 38:57
  Speaker 14: I was more of a Kaiden Daniels guy than Drake me,
• 39:00
  Speaker 14: But like a good Patriots lawyer, list I will adjust
• 39:04
  Speaker 14: and try to find the good.
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: There you go. So on that note, one night.
• 39:09
  Speaker 14: Drake made's actual arm. Now it's strong enough to release
• 39:13
  Speaker 14: someone like Pekwon Thornton down that oh god, yeah, down
• 39:16
  Speaker 14: the steam or something or on the outside. Yeah, now
• 39:18
  Speaker 14: we have a quarterback.
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that wasn't the issue with Taekwon Thornton that
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: no one could reach him, even Mac.
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: You know, Taekwon Thornton put a couple right in his
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: hands that he dropped.
• 39:28
  Speaker 9: Right, Taekwon Thornton literally would be running the wrong route,
• 39:32
  Speaker 9: stop running his route, or just completely be in the
• 39:35
  Speaker 9: wrong spot.
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 39:36
  Speaker 7: Yeah, we had a caller on a on catch twenty
• 39:38
  Speaker 7: two earlier today. That's the same question. And I've taken
• 39:42
  Speaker 7: the cheese with Taekwon Won too many time. I'm not
• 39:44
  Speaker 7: doing it again with Taekwon Thorton. Like it's until I
• 39:47
  Speaker 7: see him in an NFL games actually put together like
• 39:50
  Speaker 7: a month of great production.
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: I am not buying take a receiver here. There's a
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: very good chance that it knocks Taekwon Thornton.
• 39:58
  Speaker 8: I mean, and even I mean, I assume they will
• 39:59
  Speaker 8: take a receiver in this draft. He's gonna have to
• 40:02
  Speaker 8: win a spot. Like there's not that he's not Like.
• 40:04
  Speaker 5: I think he's probably okay right now because I don't
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: bark at them being able to do anything with Juju
• 40:09
  Speaker 5: Smith Schuster if they can, that could save Taekwon too
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: if they if they draft somebody in the second round,
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: that makes him a lock, and I think that he
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: would be in trouble.
• 40:20
  Speaker 9: I literally have been saying all off season long. I
• 40:22
  Speaker 9: don't know how, but I wish we could get rid
• 40:23
  Speaker 9: of both Taekwon and Taekwon.
• 40:25
  Speaker 8: They can just cut I tell you that Bills on
• 40:29
  Speaker 8: the call. Uh you could, so Taekwon bumped on your list? Tamara, guys,
• 40:33
  Speaker 8: you want off the team. DeVante Parker left and you
• 40:35
  Speaker 8: got to get rid of him, and now you you move.
• 40:37
  Speaker 8: You slid Taekwon Thornton into the Tamara's.
• 40:40
  Speaker 7: Taikon Paikon can list can just be cut? Juju is
• 40:44
  Speaker 7: a different story.
• 40:46
  Speaker 5: That's money problems Or do you want to trade down
• 40:49
  Speaker 5: for Mike? If we can assume we trade down, who
• 40:51
  Speaker 5: you want to trade down for?
• 40:53
  Speaker 8: Well, I think I'd feel better, you know, in those
• 40:55
  Speaker 8: spots talking about any of the the you know, some
• 40:57
  Speaker 8: of the tackles you know, Patrick Paul, some of the
• 41:00
  Speaker 8: other receivers you know, like you said, Corley, I mean,
• 41:03
  Speaker 8: I don't know. I think Franklin will be around for
• 41:05
  Speaker 8: a little bit.
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, those guys, I know, Fringe second, one of
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: Evans guys, Roger Henry, Roland Gardner.
• 41:13
  Speaker 8: Yeah, but I think Fisher, I mean those, I think
• 41:16
  Speaker 8: the guys will go early tonight.
• 41:18
  Speaker 7: Trey Franklin as much as we have PTSD because of
• 41:22
  Speaker 7: the Patriots draft failures, with that type of skill set,
• 41:24
  Speaker 7: he's one of the most productive players in the draft
• 41:27
  Speaker 7: at receiver, extremely efficient, like high end, analytically profile and
• 41:33
  Speaker 7: and pretty good tape. So I wouldn't have Madine, you know,
• 41:35
  Speaker 7: I could have seen Buffalo taking him right here. Also,
• 41:37
  Speaker 7: but some of the Twitter Twitter peeps think it's going
• 41:41
  Speaker 7: to be key on Coleman. But I think that, you know,
• 41:43
  Speaker 7: if you trade down to forty forty one, forty two,
• 41:47
  Speaker 7: then Troy Franklin does make a lot more sense, I
• 41:49
  Speaker 7: think in that spot than he would hear or Kingsley
• 41:51
  Speaker 7: Sua Mattia makes a lot more sound good in that
• 41:54
  Speaker 7: spot than he does here. But you also don't have
• 41:57
  Speaker 7: to get cute with it, like if you like the player,
• 41:59
  Speaker 7: it's not worth you know, not taking him first.
• 42:01
  Speaker 8: I just feel like right now the value kind of
• 42:03
  Speaker 8: lives on defense at this immediate moment. Aside from a
• 42:05
  Speaker 8: couple people like, you know, the teams that need a
• 42:08
  Speaker 8: cornerback right now, Like I think they're going to be
• 42:10
  Speaker 8: desperate to try to get up to the top of
• 42:11
  Speaker 8: this draft. And you know, even even some of the
• 42:13
  Speaker 8: edge guys you know that are that are still around.
• 42:15
  Speaker 8: So I don't know, it's it's hard because I think
• 42:19
  Speaker 8: the real value of the positions the guys the Patriots
• 42:21
  Speaker 8: need are letting like mid second round, you know, it's
• 42:23
  Speaker 8: you let it like five ten picks go by and
• 42:25
  Speaker 8: then get another get you know, I'd rather have three
• 42:27
  Speaker 8: of those mid second round guys, you know, or you know,
• 42:30
  Speaker 8: second round into the third round then you know, just
• 42:32
  Speaker 8: one now and.
• 42:33
  Speaker 7: So are we are we tippings on that go ahead?
• 42:36
  Speaker 7: So the Bills took key On Coleman, are about to
• 42:38
  Speaker 7: take Kean Coleman. Okay, So thank you Buffalo for saving
• 42:41
  Speaker 7: them from themselves. Thank you.
• 42:44
  Speaker 9: So back to defense, Evan, Where did you have Kooley
• 42:48
  Speaker 9: McKinstry on your list?
• 42:49
  Speaker 7: Yeah, probably like around I can look it up, but
• 42:53
  Speaker 7: probably around like quarterback six, maybe I want to say
• 42:57
  Speaker 7: off the top of my head, but yeah, I did
• 43:00
  Speaker 7: all the corners and what I like about kool Aid
• 43:03
  Speaker 7: is is he's a little bit bigger and more physical
• 43:06
  Speaker 7: than some of these other guys that he could truly
• 43:09
  Speaker 7: play on the outside at high exposures where some of
• 43:12
  Speaker 7: the guys in Day two that we've talked about a
• 43:14
  Speaker 7: lot are more slot nickel types. So I think Kold
• 43:18
  Speaker 7: is a really good player. They discovered a Jones fracture
• 43:21
  Speaker 7: in his foot in February and that derailed his entire
• 43:25
  Speaker 7: pre draft process, which is tough, and those injuries are
• 43:28
  Speaker 7: tough to they're nagging, and.
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: He had during the season.
• 43:32
  Speaker 7: Yeah, so they actually he got it discovered at the
• 43:35
  Speaker 7: combine by the doctors there in Indianapolis. And those Jones fractors,
• 43:40
  Speaker 7: they can be a really really small hairline fracture and
• 43:43
  Speaker 7: sometimes you just think you just don't think about it.
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: Because I thought I thought kool Aid was was pretty good.
• 43:49
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I didn't think too.
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: I didn't think he was a shutdown corner.
• 43:52
  Speaker 5: You know, he's one of the guys that ad Mitchell
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: had his way with, by the way in that game
• 43:56
  Speaker 5: against al Yeah.
• 43:57
  Speaker 7: No, I think as a number two corner to Gonzo though,
• 44:00
  Speaker 7: that would be a nice parents. Yeah, I had him
• 44:03
  Speaker 7: as cornerback six. I hadded Arnold Quinon, Mitchell, Nate Wiggins,
• 44:07
  Speaker 7: Cooper de Jene, Mike Sanstrell, kool Aid, but Santrells Nickel
• 44:12
  Speaker 7: and Cooper de Gene might be a safety.
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: So we've been waiting to hear from him. Here he is.
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: It's Eldred from North Carolina.
• 44:19
  Speaker 8: How you doing on your way to Atlanta?
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: A good?
• 44:24
  Speaker 5: I'm sorry for your lost.
• 44:25
  Speaker 15: I'm only two and a half hour from Atlanta.
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: There you go.
• 44:30
  Speaker 5: I'm sorry, I'm sorry for your loss. Buddy.
• 44:33
  Speaker 15: Yes, sads off to you, bro, you got your boy?
• 44:36
  Speaker 7: Okay, Well I'm not right yet. Eldred asked me in
• 44:39
  Speaker 7: three years. If I'm right, I'm.
• 44:41
  Speaker 15: Gonna ask you about a year and a half. But
• 44:46
  Speaker 15: they celebrate down here in though they have they haveing
• 44:50
  Speaker 15: a good ball.
• 44:52
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm sure.
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: So what do you think about Pannix going on the Falcons?
• 44:56
  Speaker 5: Shock me?
• 44:57
  Speaker 15: I thought at least uh Seattle or maybe the Raiders
• 45:02
  Speaker 15: go get him because of the connection, But I never
• 45:06
  Speaker 15: thought Atlanta woul get him at eight?
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, how long do you think he'll have to say?
• 45:10
  Speaker 15: You go in the top ten or whatever? But everybody
• 45:12
  Speaker 15: gives saying no comes the history, you know, But that's that.
• 45:17
  Speaker 15: But if this new regime, they said, hey new get
• 45:22
  Speaker 15: that kid or wire receive, get him a d Mitchell,
• 45:24
  Speaker 15: don't care about your baggage. And then in the fourth round,
• 45:27
  Speaker 15: go get his buddy Dave's Walker because they played against
• 45:30
  Speaker 15: the Jails against West Charlotte and Mayo's Park all the
• 45:33
  Speaker 15: time anyway, so I would get him back together again.
• 45:36
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm coming around on test Walker. I do like
• 45:40
  Speaker 7: I know it probably doesn't mean anything, but I do
• 45:43
  Speaker 7: like kind of pairing him with his college quarterback and
• 45:46
  Speaker 7: the connection, and we talk about, you know, what do
• 45:48
  Speaker 7: they need? They need an outside receiver with speed and size.
• 45:50
  Speaker 7: And he even though he's raw, he checks all those
• 45:53
  Speaker 7: boxes watching him at the Pro day. His catch radius
• 45:58
  Speaker 7: is legit, his speed is legit. He just doesn't run routes,
• 46:01
  Speaker 7: you know, the full rout tree. Yet he's still got
• 46:03
  Speaker 7: some things to develop. But I think in general, it's
• 46:07
  Speaker 7: I'm coming around to it.
• 46:08
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 46:08
  Speaker 7: I didn't love his film, but I think that he's
• 46:10
  Speaker 7: got a lot of trades.
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: Okay, all right, Aldred, but you have a good one. Ok.
• 46:17
  Speaker 7: Let's go to to That's what it's all about, Eldrid,
• 46:19
  Speaker 7: just being Falcons, being peaceful.
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, his guy got picked higher than he
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: thought it would be picked.
• 46:27
  Speaker 8: He's gonna be calling Falcons on filters, like talking crap
• 46:29
  Speaker 8: about about Kirk Cousins.
• 46:31
  Speaker 7: Be like, do you Orlando, I agree with you.
• 46:35
  Speaker 8: They got to get Cousins out of there.
• 46:37
  Speaker 7: The Patriots are on the clock.
• 46:39
  Speaker 9: I just feel like that's like such an uncomfortable situation
• 46:41
  Speaker 9: where like here like Drake may Is gonna come in
• 46:43
  Speaker 9: and have a great mentor and leader and Jacoby Brissette,
• 46:46
  Speaker 9: but like they're Kirk Cousins.
• 46:48
  Speaker 8: I think he'll get over it. I think he'll be great.
• 46:50
  Speaker 8: I mean, I mean I like Penix too. I mean,
• 46:52
  Speaker 8: that's one of my favorite things about Pennix. Just was
• 46:54
  Speaker 8: a cool kind of guy. He seemed like and and
• 46:56
  Speaker 8: Cousins is like infamous for just being kind of that
• 46:59
  Speaker 8: lovable dad guy. So I you know, I think Cousins
• 47:02
  Speaker 8: was probably blindsided. But you know, this is a business.
• 47:04
  Speaker 8: I think everybody understands that, and you know, he's just
• 47:06
  Speaker 8: got to go out and play. I mean, he's thirty
• 47:08
  Speaker 8: six coming off in Achilles.
• 47:10
  Speaker 10: He's got the bag, so like, go there.
• 47:13
  Speaker 5: The different people will start to make the announcements. We're
• 47:16
  Speaker 5: gonna have Michael Win.
• 47:17
  Speaker 7: You are making he's from Detroit, assuming Mike Mike that.
• 47:22
  Speaker 5: Mike doesn't get his way.
• 47:24
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I know, right, Mike wants to trade trade down,
• 47:27
  Speaker 8: You're gonna have to wait and win you Okay.
• 47:30
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I guess. So now there's reports coming out that
• 47:33
  Speaker 7: Josh Allen specifically wanted Keon Coleman, requested Keon Coleman specifically,
• 47:39
  Speaker 7: and uh, that he wanted him last night, and so
• 47:43
  Speaker 7: I imagine they had to had to be like, it's
• 47:45
  Speaker 7: going to be all right, We're going to get him tomorrow.
• 47:47
  Speaker 5: If he ends up being a good player, I would
• 47:49
  Speaker 5: say that's a really good, you know, uh situation that
• 47:53
  Speaker 5: they put put in. You know, they moved around, they
• 47:55
  Speaker 5: picked up a couple of secondary picks, and you know
• 47:58
  Speaker 5: that's that's a really good that's a really good thing.
• 48:00
  Speaker 5: So I don't like, I don't love the player. I
• 48:03
  Speaker 5: agree with Evan. I can understand it a little bit
• 48:05
  Speaker 5: more with Buffalo they need someone on the outside. I
• 48:08
  Speaker 5: think with Josh Allen, you know you can the Chargers
• 48:11
  Speaker 5: have traded with the Patriots, and the Chargers are now
• 48:13
  Speaker 5: on the clock, Is that right, Yeah, Sea, the Patriots
• 48:15
  Speaker 5: are trading down to thirty seven with the Chargers are
• 48:19
  Speaker 5: not too far.
• 48:20
  Speaker 7: I don't know what they got back yet, but.
• 48:22
  Speaker 5: Mike, congratulations, you got your way. Thank god.
• 48:24
  Speaker 8: I was worried there for a second.
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: So who's Harbaugh taking? Who did he have his? Iyon?
• 48:30
  Speaker 9: I'm gonna get received wide receiver because thedn't they give
• 48:32
  Speaker 9: the Bears Keenan Allen, I mean.
• 48:34
  Speaker 7: Jalen Polk from Washington.
• 48:36
  Speaker 8: I liked him just throwing I mean, I don't know
• 48:40
  Speaker 8: I would throw off I me again. I just want
• 48:41
  Speaker 8: to say that the values and defensive backs.
• 48:43
  Speaker 10: I was gonna say, maybe he'll go after his guy
• 48:45
  Speaker 10: and get Roman Wilson. That's get one Michigan.
• 48:48
  Speaker 8: That wouldn't be impossible to Yeah, So the Chargers have
• 48:52
  Speaker 8: taken the Patriots pick at thirty four.
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: We're now picking at thirty seven.
• 48:57
  Speaker 8: Now it's just what did they pick up? That's the
• 48:59
  Speaker 8: big one we got to write up. Can someone right
• 49:01
  Speaker 8: up the Ernie style? You know how he puts it
• 49:02
  Speaker 8: up on the board.
• 49:04
  Speaker 5: I will see it. I haven't. I haven't seen anything.
• 49:07
  Speaker 7: I mean, you had to take at its value.
• 49:10
  Speaker 8: So Patriots pick up So they traded thirty four and
• 49:12
  Speaker 8: one thirty seven for thirty seven and one ten, so
• 49:16
  Speaker 8: they move up.
• 49:17
  Speaker 7: They moved down in this round, but move up from
• 49:20
  Speaker 7: the fifth round. So now they have one O three
• 49:22
  Speaker 7: and one ten.
• 49:25
  Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, yeah, man, one.
• 49:29
  Speaker 5: Ten is earlier than the fifth round.
• 49:32
  Speaker 7: Right, it's now we're back into the fourth round. So
• 49:34
  Speaker 7: now they have two fourth round picks. Okay, but they
• 49:36
  Speaker 7: don't have a fifth round pick anymore.
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: Okay, okay, all right, so.
• 49:41
  Speaker 8: Now we wait mad with me?
• 49:43
  Speaker 5: So what was the trade again?
• 49:44
  Speaker 9: Uh?
• 49:44
  Speaker 8: Patriots trade thirty four and one thirty seven for thirty
• 49:48
  Speaker 8: seven and one ten.
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: Okay. Uh, Colin is in Seattle eight five to five,
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: pass five hundred. What's up Colin?
• 49:59
  Speaker 16: Hey guys, thanks taking my call.
• 50:02
  Speaker 17: Yeah, I've always been a fan of the double dip
• 50:04
  Speaker 17: for wide receivers.
• 50:05
  Speaker 15: I'm hoping the Chargers.
• 50:06
  Speaker 17: Don't break my heart and take my guy Jail and
• 50:08
  Speaker 17: Polk here, but I'm hoping we can double dip.
• 50:11
  Speaker 18: On the Washington guys.
• 50:12
  Speaker 16: Being a Washington fan, I selfishly i'd like Jalen Polk
• 50:16
  Speaker 16: and McMillan on the Patriots.
• 50:17
  Speaker 11: I'll take it off the line.
• 50:18
  Speaker 8: Oh yeah, I like Jalen pol.
• 50:20
  Speaker 5: The good news is Mike didn't get his way. They
• 50:22
  Speaker 5: didn't stock.
• 50:23
  Speaker 8: Pile, don't celebrate just so fast.
• 50:27
  Speaker 5: I'm more on board now.
• 50:31
  Speaker 8: Fly in the ointments. We don't have extra guys, right. Well,
• 50:35
  Speaker 8: I was thinking back to last year with all those
• 50:37
  Speaker 8: those six and seven founders that they just like reeled
• 50:39
  Speaker 8: off last year. That was like, oh my gosh, I
• 50:41
  Speaker 8: couldn't even keep them all straight. But yeah, a little
• 50:44
  Speaker 8: trade down, little trade up there, combo deal. So you know,
• 50:48
  Speaker 8: it's still just two picks today, and uh, you'll have
• 50:51
  Speaker 8: a big little bit of a gap tomorrow. But I
• 50:53
  Speaker 8: don't know, I like, as always, they're probably gonna be
• 50:55
  Speaker 8: some more moves coming, I would guess.
• 50:57
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's interesting that they get those those double fourth
• 50:59
  Speaker 7: round under Now, you know, I'm interested to see if
• 51:03
  Speaker 7: I kind of thought the fourth round would be where
• 51:06
  Speaker 7: we might start to see them take some defensive players
• 51:08
  Speaker 7: and uh maybe they they're thinking that and they're you know,
• 51:12
  Speaker 7: tackle double dip, receiver double dip, and then also maybe
• 51:15
  Speaker 7: try to get an edge rusher or something like that
• 51:17
  Speaker 7: in the fourth round because there's gonna be some value
• 51:19
  Speaker 7: there with the edge edge guys, I think in round four.
• 51:22
  Speaker 7: So it'd be interesting to see why they you know,
• 51:25
  Speaker 7: you you swapped you didn't add picks, like Paul said,
• 51:28
  Speaker 7: So it would be interesting to see who who they like.
• 51:30
  Speaker 7: At at one ten, they're obviously somebody there that they're
• 51:33
  Speaker 7: going to think about.
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: Uh, let's see Mike is Is at the draft. He says,
• 51:39
  Speaker 4: it's an odd setup in comparison to expectations. They only
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: have two food trucks for the closed closed space.
• 51:46
  Speaker 13: That's it, two food trucks.
• 51:48
  Speaker 8: Chez.
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: He wants a receiver those people.
• 51:50
  Speaker 7: So, Fred, I'm sorry to crush your dreams. The Chargers
• 51:54
  Speaker 7: took lad Conki.
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 51:58
  Speaker 8: Sorry, Fred, We'll see him here this year though.
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think once you trade it out, I think
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: the Patriots knew that, you know, you knew that they
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: didn't weren't going to take him because he was going
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: to go yeah before thirty seven.
• 52:11
  Speaker 7: It is interesting though that the wide receiver needy Patriots
• 52:15
  Speaker 7: traded a pick that was a wide receiver that all
• 52:17
  Speaker 7: of us probably had on our boards as a possible target.
• 52:20
  Speaker 7: And I think when you look at what Elliott said
• 52:23
  Speaker 7: last week about what kind of receiver they need, I
• 52:26
  Speaker 7: think they truly feel like they need that outside X
• 52:29
  Speaker 7: body type and not a five to eleven Lad McConkey
• 52:33
  Speaker 7: so I Kean Coleman's off the board. Adie Mitchell is
• 52:37
  Speaker 7: still there. I mean, I don't know Walker, Tess Walker
• 52:41
  Speaker 7: probably a little bit later, but then Rice a little
• 52:43
  Speaker 7: bit later. I'd be interesting to see you. Obviously, they
• 52:46
  Speaker 7: didn't feel like they wanted the technician, you know, they
• 52:50
  Speaker 7: want somebody that's a little bit bigger.
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: Well, once the Patriots, assuming they do make the pick
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: at thirty seven, Elliott Wolf will come on with us
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: before he meets the media, so we'll have a chance
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: to be or before. Supposedly that's what I'm told.
• 53:03
  Speaker 5: But he's going to meet the media tonight after the
• 53:06
  Speaker 5: third round.
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: He's not going after the pick.
• 53:08
  Speaker 5: Is that? Isn't that right?
• 53:10
  Speaker 10: I'm not sure.
• 53:10
  Speaker 5: I thought he was only meeting with the media once.
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: Okay, well that's fine. Anyway, we'll get him after the pick.
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: I think we're going to get him after that, and
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: I can ask him why he didn't take Lad, but you.
• 53:20
  Speaker 8: Should pitch him on it. I mean, I'm telling you, Lad,
• 53:23
  Speaker 8: you missed out.
• 53:24
  Speaker 7: On that one.
• 53:26
  Speaker 8: So there we are, Lad, very happy, Yeah.
• 53:29
  Speaker 7: Good lad, our Lad. He's not our lad.
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: Oh well, well there's still Johnny Wilson out there. No,
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: not this not in this round.
• 53:42
  Speaker 7: Now that now the Falcons have traded up in are
• 53:45
  Speaker 7: on the clock, not with the Patriots. They traded up
• 53:47
  Speaker 7: with the commit So you have to Arizona Cardinals. What
• 53:51
  Speaker 7: day is it?
• 53:53
  Speaker 9: So do you think her cousins is asking for a
• 53:55
  Speaker 9: wide receiver here like Josh Allen asked for wide receiver.
• 53:57
  Speaker 8: I don't think he's a position asked for anything?
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: What is pennx one?
• 54:00
  Speaker 5: No they have is like I mean they have. They've
• 54:04
  Speaker 5: used so many premium picks on PIDs and London Robinson
• 54:10
  Speaker 5: the defense, you'd think.
• 54:13
  Speaker 10: But hey, oh it might be the guy you guys
• 54:15
  Speaker 10: like the defense?
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: Well what did I say yesterday about this round? It'd
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: be a lot of action, a lot of trading so far.
• 54:22
  Speaker 8: I'm right, are you getting You're like the You're like
• 54:26
  Speaker 8: the tip master.
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: Over there to trade.
• 54:29
  Speaker 7: You might we all might get what we want because
• 54:32
  Speaker 7: it's just floated out there, and I think it's a
• 54:34
  Speaker 7: good theory. The two fourth round picks would be enough
• 54:38
  Speaker 7: to get them back into the third round again tonight. Yeah,
• 54:42
  Speaker 7: so they could end up making two third round picks
• 54:44
  Speaker 7: if they wanted to, because one of them is a
• 54:46
  Speaker 7: high four. Right, So then they're both pretty high. So
• 54:48
  Speaker 7: then Paul gets what he wants because we're consolidating picks, right,
• 54:52
  Speaker 7: and deuce is right because you're everybody.
• 54:56
  Speaker 10: So instead of girl math, this is evan math.
• 54:58
  Speaker 19: This is this.
• 55:00
  Speaker 10: This is what I do, football math.
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: So the Falcons are now picking third in the second round. Yes,
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: and I hear that they might be trading one of
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: their quarterbacks.
• 55:13
  Speaker 5: Kirk Cousins, Mike, you're I would say, a student of minutia,
• 55:18
  Speaker 5: like you're great with numbers, right hoodies?
• 55:22
  Speaker 8: Yeah that Yes.
• 55:24
  Speaker 5: Is there a fifth fifth round thing with the Patriots?
• 55:27
  Speaker 5: I don't they like to trade out of the fifth round?
• 55:29
  Speaker 7: Yes, there is, so the fifth round. Statistically speaking, this
• 55:33
  Speaker 7: little Belichick ism, I don't know if it's still qualifies.
• 55:36
  Speaker 7: Statistically speaking, the fifth round is the least valuable round
• 55:38
  Speaker 7: in the draft because of just the way teams grade
• 55:43
  Speaker 7: grade players and things like that. So that's why Bill
• 55:45
  Speaker 7: always took special teams players in the fifth round is
• 55:48
  Speaker 7: because they're just kind of worthless. So they just, you know,
• 55:52
  Speaker 7: there's no difference between.
• 55:53
  Speaker 5: I agree with the last part. Special team is kind
• 55:55
  Speaker 5: of worthless.
• 55:56
  Speaker 7: There's no difference between. Statistically, the sixth and seven been
• 56:00
  Speaker 7: round in the fifth Roe.
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: But Bill didn't. Also Bill say he likes to at
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: least have a pick in every round.
• 56:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I know. He has said many times he doesn't
• 56:09
  Speaker 5: like the big gaps.
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: He doesn't like the big gaps. He doesn't like seeing
• 56:11
  Speaker 4: the train go by, you know, and not being you know,
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: in the action.
• 56:16
  Speaker 9: I mean, you're not in the action when you're trading
• 56:18
  Speaker 9: back all the time, like you're watching the parade go by,
• 56:22
  Speaker 9: when you're trading down and getting cold, strange.
• 56:23
  Speaker 8: You're watching the I'll let you guys tackle the name.
• 56:26
  Speaker 8: I still haven't gotten. I practiced it a few times
• 56:28
  Speaker 8: for the club, their take out the Falcons. If there's
• 56:31
  Speaker 8: a lot of horror horror, there's there's a bunch of
• 56:34
  Speaker 8: auto horror horror.
• 56:36
  Speaker 7: I think it's how you said, that's who we're talking about.
• 56:40
  Speaker 8: I think there's like four order.
• 56:42
  Speaker 7: Yeah, so horror horror, horror, horror, horror, horror horror or
• 56:48
  Speaker 7: horror horror. There you go. We would never be able
• 56:52
  Speaker 7: to I could say that a lot easier than this.
• 56:56
  Speaker 7: He's a good player too, and we're like butchering another
• 57:01
  Speaker 7: one of those long, physical, you know, press the pocket
• 57:05
  Speaker 7: type of defensive lineman.
• 57:07
  Speaker 4: I actually did a little bit of a reach though.
• 57:10
  Speaker 7: Maybe slightly fifty one for the for the Beast, Yeah yeah,
• 57:15
  Speaker 7: maybe slightly yeah, but not crazy.
• 57:17
  Speaker 20: You know.
• 57:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he's one spot ahead of Michael Pennock, will win eight.
• 57:21
  Speaker 7: Physical guy, you know, one of the another one of
• 57:23
  Speaker 7: those like long, sturdy, you know, heavy hands, like gonna
• 57:27
  Speaker 7: press blocks, gonna dent the pocket. You know a lot
• 57:30
  Speaker 7: of those guys in this draft. Honestly, you know him
• 57:34
  Speaker 7: and who is it Robinson from Missouri that went last night.
• 57:40
  Speaker 7: You know a lot of those types of guys in
• 57:41
  Speaker 7: this draft.
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: So yeah, another one, all right, So that leads the
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: commanders on the clock, correct.
• 57:49
  Speaker 8: But I do think like what you're seeing is with
• 57:51
  Speaker 8: this draft format, that teams have a chance to sit
• 57:54
  Speaker 8: there and evaluate and try to make some deals to
• 57:57
  Speaker 8: you know, try to get up. And I mean I think,
• 57:59
  Speaker 8: you know, defense the some value there. Clearly the Bills
• 58:02
  Speaker 8: knew their guy, they wanted their guy. I mean, I
• 58:04
  Speaker 8: go back to when the Patriots took Rossie Dowling, you know,
• 58:07
  Speaker 8: had that first pick in the second round, Like, yeah,
• 58:09
  Speaker 8: all this day is speculation who are they going to take?
• 58:11
  Speaker 8: And then I think that one was a little bit
• 58:13
  Speaker 8: of a surprise, But it's just kind of the new
• 58:16
  Speaker 8: draft format, which we were reflecting upon. How many rounds
• 58:18
  Speaker 8: used to be on Saturday.
• 58:19
  Speaker 5: It was, it was like the first three on Saturday
• 58:22
  Speaker 5: in the last four on Sunday.
• 58:24
  Speaker 21: I like that.
• 58:25
  Speaker 8: Now I liked it as a fan. I don't know
• 58:26
  Speaker 8: how you guys felt about it, like working it because
• 58:28
  Speaker 8: it probably is a lot of volume.
• 58:29
  Speaker 5: Well, working is the same. But I always liked, you know,
• 58:33
  Speaker 5: let's work two long days instead of three.
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you know, but.
• 58:38
  Speaker 5: I'm sure that the data will tell you that. Goodell
• 58:40
  Speaker 5: says no one's ever watched the draft anymore than they
• 58:44
  Speaker 5: do now on Thursday nights. Well, he's probably right, He's
• 58:47
  Speaker 5: probably not.
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: Well.
• 58:49
  Speaker 8: I mean I I made an event of it. I
• 58:51
  Speaker 8: mean I would sit in front of my you know,
• 58:52
  Speaker 8: I'd make food. It would be a whole you know.
• 58:54
  Speaker 8: And it started, especially in California, it starts. It started early.
• 58:57
  Speaker 5: It was like nine am maybe I think it was
• 59:00
  Speaker 5: noon on Saturday. Eleven on Sunday.
• 59:02
  Speaker 8: Yeah, it was fun, you know, you get right at
• 59:04
  Speaker 8: it and like that.
• 59:05
  Speaker 5: One of those Sundays was the day that Fred Fred
• 59:07
  Speaker 5: talked about this recently when we broke the Drew Bledsoe trade.
• 59:11
  Speaker 5: It was the Sunday of I.
• 59:13
  Speaker 13: Didn't realize that has to be the draft weekend.
• 59:15
  Speaker 4: Second? Yeah, wow, Now do you guys think Day two?
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 59:19
  Speaker 5: Day two?
• 59:20
  Speaker 8: It must have been the two draft anything with the
• 59:22
  Speaker 8: extra pick though, Now, like, if the Patriots get by
• 59:24
  Speaker 8: this next pick, do you feel like a trade is
• 59:26
  Speaker 8: off the table or do you think like we're still
• 59:28
  Speaker 8: in the mix for a trade? I mean, how valuable
• 59:30
  Speaker 8: is this next thirty seventh overall pick?
• 59:32
  Speaker 5: Is that?
• 59:33
  Speaker 8: You know, if if this goes by by.
• 59:34
  Speaker 4: But now you still have those two fourths, yeah, you know,
• 59:37
  Speaker 4: so that.
• 59:38
  Speaker 5: You guys want to package those, right, We're going to
• 59:41
  Speaker 5: help Paul.
• 59:43
  Speaker 10: Already we're talking about packaging it for Demo.
• 59:46
  Speaker 8: Or anybody, you know what I mean, just just generally no, no,
• 59:49
  Speaker 8: I know, but I'm just saying general trades. I mean,
• 59:51
  Speaker 8: we've talked about a lot of different trades. Is you know,
• 59:54
  Speaker 8: once you lose this kind of your last biggest asset,
• 59:57
  Speaker 8: is it hard to make it.
• 59:58
  Speaker 5: A second by?
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 5: I thought you were talking about the two fo Yeah yeah,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 5: now you're talking about thirty seven.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 4: Now you're talking within the draft instead of a player
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 4: an existing place.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 15: Yeah.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 5: No, But thirty seven could get you something.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm really I don't know. I I'm really interested
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 7: to see what's actually out there for Deebo Samuel.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 5: Although thirty four just got you to move up what
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 5: twenty five spots in the from the fifth round of
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 5: the fourth round. Yeah, that's all that was worth.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 7: Yeah. I just with Debo. I he's expensive, he's aging,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 7: he's injury history. I mean, I just think that sometimes
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 7: these receiver deals we think are gonna blow our socks off,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 7: and then you get the get the notification of what
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 7: actually this guy went for. It's like Amari Cooper goes
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 7: for like a fifth round.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 5: I'd be stunned if San Francisco took less than the
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 5: first round or that they're talking about for Ayuk. But
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 5: I kind of agree with Evan. I think they might
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 5: look at it and say, you know, people might be
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 5: calling it yeah, I mean seriously, Yeah, he's already got
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 5: the contract. I have to give you a first round pick,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 5: and really.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 4: Let's see. Jackson writes it, I'm with Colin and Seattle
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: with the double dip on Washington guy, since it seems
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 4: they want no part of Ady Mitchell for whatever reason.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 4: For a team that has talked at length about weaponizing
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 4: the offense. They sure seem to be avoiding wide receiver,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: like Bill is still making the picks a bit disappointing.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 7: They haven't even made a second pick yet.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 5: Well they traded it. Yeah, I think it's his point.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 4: They're passing up.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 7: Yeah, well they just don't like they just didn't want that, Okay,
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 7: I don't know, I just it seems a little bit aggressive.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 7: We haven't even like they haven't even made a second
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 7: pick yet. Like if they take a receiver here then.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 8: Right, and it looks like, yeah, looks like the Commanders
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 8: took Jerry's Newton.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 7: Yeah, Johnny Newton. Yeah, he's an interesting he's he's a
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 7: fun fun watch. Yeah, he's an explosive interior guy, a
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 7: little bit like Christian Barmore. You know, he's got the
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 7: upper body strength, but he also has a really good
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 7: first step in lateral agility, and he can make guys
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 7: miss as much as he can go through you. Yeah,
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 7: he's he's a game records. It's very similar Barmore in
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 7: a similar spot that Barmore went into. So fun player.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 5: Okay, his name is Jason, Yeah, but he goes by
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 5: No I know it goes by john I'd never heard,
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 5: but I've heard a lot of people talk about Johnny. Yeah.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 5: I just looked at on Twitter.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 13: That's his given name, I think parents given and he
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 13: is Where did he go?
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 5: Wait? Washington?
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 7: But it's killing me?
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 9: What what?
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: What?
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 7: We can't say that it's not out there?
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 5: You know, the kids are obviously on a line that
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 5: you and I are. Can tell me, tell me did
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 5: they pick?
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 7: Or yeah, we're not. It's not out there yet. I can't.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 7: I don't have any secrecy. Yea for five more seconds,
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 7: everybody can wait?
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 8: Yeah, so I guess we're picking a guy guy right player.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 10: It's it's going to be a good one.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 4: Okay, all right, just kidding.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 9: No, it actually goes with what the email that you
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 9: just read, it goes along with that Washington.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 4: Okay, all right, Well well we'll have they announced officially.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 4: Uh yeah, so here comes from Washington's pick. So while
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 4: we're they're doing that in Detroit, we'll go to Blake
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 4: in Ohio. What's what's up Blake?
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 15: Hey, guys, thanks for taking a call.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 16: I just wanted to see, uh, what's the attire like tonight?
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 16: As Brett Ashley taking a bow tie off yet.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 8: Yeah, he went to a polo.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 4: You're not watching the Patriots pick.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: We know.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 15: I'm actually driving on my way home unfortunately.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 4: No, I'm just wearing a you know, a standard Patriots polo.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 15: Okay, Hey, I did have a question real quick about
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 15: ad Mitchell.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 4: Why this slide?
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 22: I feel like he's definitely went a little later than
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 22: what we all thought.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we were talking about it earlier. There's you know,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 4: there's some stories out there about his management of his
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 4: diabetes and just at times kind of being out of it.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 4: So that could be the reason why.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 5: But you know who knows.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 8: Yeah, so so Bart Beers put it out there if
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 8: you want, can we can we say it now?
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 8: So it's Jalen Polk, the wide receiver from Washington, which
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 8: I'm with these guys. I'm I'm excited. I when I like,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 8: he's one of the first guys I kind of watched
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 8: and I was like, wow, I really really like this kid,
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 8: And it seemed like the consensus was lower than what
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 8: I saw. But I think he's a he's an explosive player,
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 8: he's got some potentially He's not you know, Roma Dunes,
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 8: but I really was impressed with him. I think this
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 8: is a really good pick. I know he's probably a
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 8: big board guy for you two Evan.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 7: Yeah, so what's his measurements, Jalen Polk? I would six
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 7: one two oh three, so he's got some size. But
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 7: I wouldn't necessarily say that he's a true X receiver.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 7: But what he is is very very crafty, great play strength,
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 7: and awesome hands. This guy catches everything throw in his direction,
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 7: really sticky hands. A really good quarter receiver for a
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 7: quarterback like May that's not gonna necessarily be super accurate
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 7: all the time, has that ability to make catches all
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 7: over the place and not the most guy that pops
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 7: off the film at you. I wouldn't say in terms
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 7: of game speed, but somehow, some way, he's open like
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 7: all the time and you just look up and you're like,
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 7: he just ran by that guy, and he just ran
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 7: by that guy. But then you look at the forty
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 7: time and all that kind of stuff and it doesn't
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 7: blow you away. But he plays fast, and he plays
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 7: really physical to hold his line and not get knocked
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 7: off by coverage, and a really fun player to watch
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 7: on film. And any of those Washington guys I would
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 7: have been jazzed up for and I think this was
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 7: a perfect range to take him with this little trade
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 7: down and something different. This is not you know, we're
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 7: talking about Keon Coleman and Troy Franklin and how they
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 7: were Nikhil Harry, Taekwon Thornton. This is a little bit different.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 7: And some people have used the Jacobe Myers comp with
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 7: Jalen Polk, but obviously a second round version of Jacoby
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 7: Myers move than not you know, a UDFA, but somebody
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 7: that has a similar skill set.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 8: It feels like, you know, kind of what we said
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 8: at the top of the draft, Like I mean, at
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 8: least for the first two picks, it's just both of
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 8: them seem to make sense and hitting on needs and
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 8: guys that are on the radar and that that makes sense.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 8: So I think it's a it's a good pick. This
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 8: is a good, good follow up to Drake May. You've
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 8: got another receiver to bring in. You know, we talked
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 8: a little bit about Taekwon Thornton. What does this maybe
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 8: mean for him? You know those I mean, I think
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 8: the whole wide receiver room is going to be a
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 8: blood bath. But you know, Jalen Polk, I think he's
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 8: he's in the mix, and this is this is a
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 8: good this is a good ACD.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 4: I mean, they're not disappointing this year.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 23: Now.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 4: We said they need a quarterback, they took a quarterback.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 4: They said they need another wide receiver. They took a
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 4: wide receiver.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 8: Yeah, and so right in the right range too. I
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 8: mean it's uh, you know, I guess what, it's seventy
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 8: four for the Beast. I mean that again, that's you know,
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 8: when I when I when I watched him, I just
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 8: felt like, this, he looks really good. I was surprised
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 8: that he was kind of third round. But yeah, I
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 8: think it's a good it's a good pick up.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I think the one thing in maybe there's
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 7: another shoot to drop with, you know, a Niners trade
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 7: with a Yuk or Samuel or something. I didn't project
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 7: Polk to be like a true number one guy, Like
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 7: I don't think you look at him as said that
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 7: Imber saying, it's like a top of the of the
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 7: hierarchy type of receiver.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 4: And there's probably not a true number one left on.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 7: The board unless you unless Adie Mitchell was not didn't
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 7: have his baggage. But yeah, I agree, and I think that,
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 7: you know, with Polk, he's a true number two, and
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 7: I think he has a chance to be DeVante Smith,
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 7: you know, or or you know t Higgins, right, but
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 7: he's probably not going to be Jamar Chase. But that's
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 7: all right.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 4: But you know, I will say though, you know, you
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 4: get sort of the wheeze, but it's hard to be
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 4: a true number two unless there's a one. You know,
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 4: the one kind of makes the two. Otherwise the two
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 4: needs to be a one. You know what I'm saying,
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 4: it's it's hot.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 8: It sounds like me trying to figure on my bathroom.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I even know what you're saying. It's big, Mike,
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 5: Mike and.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 4: White you with Detroit.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 20: It's the honor to be standing here man as a
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 20: proud Detroit native, as a Castech alumni, in a University
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 20: of Michigan.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 8: Alumni, the nast new chance man always. With the thirty
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 8: seventh pick in the twenty twenty four NFL.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 20: Draft, my New Glean Patriots select Jayleen Polk, receiver was TI.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 5: Wow going out and got a wow wow? Can we
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 5: is that doing?
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 8: I know I'd like to hear what Daniel Jeremi said.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 5: He didn't see him so thrilled.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 8: You see the size they're inside outside. He's a He's
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 8: a jump ball winner. That's what he does above everything else.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 21: Playing in that loaded receiver room with Roma Doonzay as
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 21: well as McMillan, who will.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 8: See his name called before too long. Excellent concentration, excellent
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 8: hands down the field, Joel.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 21: When I watched him, I didn't always see a ton
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 21: of separation.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 3: There was some concern and some questions about his speed.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 5: He ran faster than I anticipated at four or five two,
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 5: but he wins a lot of contested balls. He could
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 5: use a little polishing his route running.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 7: There's no doubt.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 24: But that spot at Washington was opened up when Buka
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 24: Nakua went to BYU.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 4: He all right, yeah, so.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 5: So there's one thing that I just got an eel
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 5: worm that bothers me and I want to get Evans
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 5: take about the separation.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that's that's legit, and that's where I
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 7: come from when I say I don't think this is
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 7: a true number one guy because he's not like I
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 7: said earlier. He does his speed does not jump off
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 7: the tape at you like when you watch him play.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 7: He catches everything, throw in his direction, and he was
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 7: really good at is like what you're seeing on on
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 7: this screen right now. He'll stack defenders and get them
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 7: on his back and then make catches through contact with
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 7: them on his back. That's sort of I don't necessarily
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 7: think that he's a jump ball receiver. I think he's
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 7: a contested receiver. And there there's a differ difference. There's
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 7: a difference because yeah, because he'd I don't think he's
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 7: gonna go climb the ladder and catch it over somebody.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 7: I think what he's gonna do is he's gonna catch
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 7: it in traffic. Yeah, and he's gonna catch it with
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 7: people on him. So he there's a lot of scouts.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 7: I really like Jalen Polk, a ton you know, very
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 7: productive player. And we talked to you know earlier about well,
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 7: if you went with Drake May and Kingsley Zoom Mattia
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 7: or Drake May and Ady Mitchell, it's a very boomer
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 7: bust draft. You know what you're gonna get with Jalen Polk.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 7: Jalen Polk is a floor prospect. He's not necessarily a
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 7: ceiling guy.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So we're gonna be joined by Elliott Wolf momentarily
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 4: questions anyone.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, what stands out? You know what, what do
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 8: they like about him? And uh, you know, how do
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 8: they think he's going to kind of fit with Drake?
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 8: And you know, what's the benefit of bringing those guys
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 8: in together? You know, I think you always like, I
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 8: don't know if you think the handcuffing term like you do.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 4: And we have to be careful about anointing Drake to
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 4: start from Dave Will sure it should be for this offense.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 8: Yeah, but I mean, I guess where my brain goes
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 8: is just having two young players we don't but just
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 8: having two you know, building that chemistry right out of
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 8: the gate and two guys who you know, maybe their
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 8: roommates that that kind of thing tends to happen a lot,
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 8: especially with those two position groups. So uh, you know,
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 8: hopefully they can start building some chemistry.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 7: But it was a need, like the.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 8: Player, I think I think it'll be you know, again,
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 8: this we're getting to the point now where there everybody's
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 8: got some challenges and some wartz, but I think it's
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 8: a good pick. And you know, now we're now we
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 8: start to think about what's next. You know, how do
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 8: they do they do they double dip, Do they go
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 8: back to receiver, do they you know, tack to defense? Now,
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 8: do they try to hit one of these tackles?
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 4: Do they start packaging and move back up into the
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 4: third round?
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 10: Why not double dip?
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 9: If the receiver classes as deep as you know, Evan
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 9: and others have said, why not double.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that's what I do wonder And he's not gonna
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 7: tell us, but I'll probably try to ask anyways. You know,
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 7: if you go out and get Drake May's guy teded Walker,
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  Speaker 7: who's six three with a four to three, that's your separation, Like,
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 5: Jalen pokes much in some of the highlights, and there's
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  Speaker 5: I mean, he's behind right there. He creates a fair
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  Speaker 7: That's that's It's not on him.
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  Speaker 5: No, it's not his fault. I just hate the fact
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  Speaker 5: play we see. Michael pen So if no, no, no,
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  Speaker 5: sure that a better clip got in. You understand my point.
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  Speaker 10: Yes, I have a question.
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  Speaker 9: It might be a question for everyone question if Polk
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  Speaker 9: was on a different team, not in the shadows of
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  Speaker 9: Roma Doonzay, do we think that he would have had
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  Speaker 9: different production or do you think he was more productive
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  Speaker 9: because of.
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  Speaker 4: I can't answer that. I have no idea.
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  Speaker 7: I think he I think he was perfectly casted at
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  Speaker 7: Washington where Romadonza was the number one guy there and
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  Speaker 7: Polk was the machine. You know, he's the straw. He's
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 7: the straw that stirs the drink, so to speak, and
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 7: a Duneesay is the one that's got the coverage tilted
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  Speaker 7: his way and all that kind of stuff. That's I
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 7: you know, it's it's a good player. And I'm not
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  Speaker 7: trying to downplay that. And like I said earlier, I
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 7: think the most important thing here is that he's a
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  Speaker 7: floor player. Yeah, and when they drafted such a trades
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  Speaker 7: based quarterback that has really high potential and upside but
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  Speaker 7: isn't necessarily an immediate contribution. Jalen Polk is safer pick.
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  Speaker 4: All right. Joining us now is Cam williams Uh down
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  Speaker 4: in in the football area of Jellius Stadium. Cam, can
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  Speaker 4: you hear us?
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  Speaker 5: I got you?
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  Speaker 4: All right? Cam, I'm pretty good. You're here with Tamara
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  Speaker 4: as well Mike Dusseau, Evan Evan Lazar and Paul Parrilla.
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  Speaker 4: So first off, h you got you got a wide
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 4: receiver with your second pick. Tell us a little bit
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  Speaker 4: about Jalen Polk.
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  Speaker 25: Yeah, we're really excited Jalen Uh. He had a really
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  Speaker 25: good year this year. He was really fun to watch.
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  Speaker 25: I think the biggest piece for us was just to
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  Speaker 25: see him continue to ascend throughout the year. He was
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  Speaker 25: just a guy that we every every time we watched him,
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  Speaker 25: we liked him more. He catches the heck out of
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  Speaker 25: the ball. He's strong, he's physical, he's tough. He's really
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 25: dependable on a really QB friendly option for the quarterback,
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  Speaker 25: which we're really excited about.
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  Speaker 4: So he's a really good player, right.
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  Speaker 9: Tamara has a question, Hi, am, When you're investing in
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  Speaker 9: a young quarterback like Drake May, was it first priority
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  Speaker 9: to go after a weapon to grow with him during
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 9: his time or was it kind of just the best
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  Speaker 9: player available for you guys, A little bit of both.
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  Speaker 25: I think at the end of the day, obviously it's
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  Speaker 25: important to add weapons. I mean, you hear Elliott talk
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  Speaker 25: as well as Jerad just about weaponizing the offense, and
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  Speaker 25: I think he adds to that. It's definitely important just
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  Speaker 25: to put the offensive players, especially Jacobe and Drake both
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  Speaker 25: in position to succeed, and I think this is another
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  Speaker 25: player that's going.
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  Speaker 2: To help them do that.
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  Speaker 7: Ye, Cam, when we talked to Elliott in his pre
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 7: draft press conference, you mentioned that three by one backside receiver.
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  Speaker 7: I'm just curious where do you guys see Jalen Polk
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 7: fitting into the puzzle in terms of where he's going
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  Speaker 7: to play Z or whatever.
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  Speaker 25: Definitely brings a component of that, Definitely brings versatility of
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 25: the game. He's a guy that played outside and inside,
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 25: so he's got some slot to him. I would assume
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 25: more of a perimeter skill set. That's kind of where
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 25: he makes his money.
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  Speaker 2: Especially.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 25: Yeah, he can win on the backside. He can play
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  Speaker 25: physical inside against smaller corners. He's kind of a good mismatch.
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  Speaker 5: Option in that way.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you moved around a little bit in the second round.
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  Speaker 4: How busy were the phones And do you think that
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 4: there's a chance maybe now you might move back into
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  Speaker 4: the second round.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 25: Yeah, you never know what the draft. It's always player
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  Speaker 25: driven and just kind of how the chips fall. And yeah,
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  Speaker 25: we were able to move back and pick up a
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  Speaker 25: fourth and move up in that way. So that was
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 25: that was helpful for us to potentially get some capital
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  Speaker 25: to move up or you know, just get a better
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  Speaker 25: player earlier. So definitely a good opportunity to trade back
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  Speaker 25: and still get the opportunity to get Jalen, which was awesome.
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  Speaker 7: Okay, one more for you, Cam. Tyler Hughes obviously on
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  Speaker 7: the staff and was at Washington last year receivers coach here. Now,
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 7: how much influence did he have on this pick and
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 7: being there with Jalen last year.
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  Speaker 25: Yeah, there was definitely a comfortability we had with Jalen
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  Speaker 25: just given Tyler's experience with him. He obviously spoke really
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  Speaker 25: highly of him, and that's you know, where we felt
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  Speaker 25: comfortable with the person and the player. I think that's
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 25: something that we fell in love with along with the
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  Speaker 25: tape was just his mentality, his his growth, mindset, toughness,
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  Speaker 25: his work, ethic and and those are the types of
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 25: things and discussions that Tyler added context.
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  Speaker 4: To with with the dude, which was awesome.
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  Speaker 11: So it was it was it was good to have
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  Speaker 11: Tyler in the building to.
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  Speaker 4: Help us through that. Well, Cam, we'll let you get
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 4: back to work. I know you guys are pretty busy.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 4: The night is far from over, so thank you for
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 4: joining us, and uh, you know, good luck for the
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 4: rest of the night. Of course, thanks Tam, Cam william
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  Speaker 4: Cam Williams on the web. Instant reaction.
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  Speaker 7: Drake May weighs in on Twitter on the pick. He said,
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  Speaker 4: Okay, so he's excited.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 8: I can't he's still awake.
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  Speaker 10: He's giving me like energizer bunny vibes.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 8: I know where is he right now? I can't even
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 8: imagine bouncing up and down somewhere. But yeah, so we
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 8: got a little bit of time now before before the Patriots.
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  Speaker 8: We'll pick again there in the third round, so you know,
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 8: some time to let some of this stuff play out.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 8: I'm just I'm curious with the tackle. Need you know,
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  Speaker 8: how long do these guys like you know, Patrick, Paul Blake,
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  Speaker 8: Fisher you know, some of the guys we've mentioned already.
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  Speaker 8: How long do those guys last? And you know, I mean,
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 8: with this being such a need, is there a chance
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  Speaker 8: to use one of those fourth round picks and the
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  Speaker 8: third round pick to move back up in here into
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  Speaker 8: the second round maybe and try to get one of
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  Speaker 8: those tackles. I mean, I think if you could come
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  Speaker 8: whichever tackle they took need some development, but you know,
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  Speaker 4: Till look test.
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  Speaker 9: So I forgot what one of us said this. It
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's true, you know, I think Evan might have
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 4: So that leaves the Saints on the board at the
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 4: oh no, no, no, oh trade in for who I
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 4: can't see that the same Yeah.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 10: Yeah, it was a trade.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 4: It was a trade.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 10: It said trade and then it said picks in.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 4: Oh okay, I don't know, I still have anyway. So
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 4: that's the ninth pick of the second round, the forty second,
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 4: forty first overall. All right, So we talked to Cam Williams.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 4: Obviously he's not ruling out a chance that the Patriots
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 4: could move back into the second round. You know. Yeah,
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 4: they certainly have the ammunition to do it. They've got
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 4: a high third round pick and two fourth round picks.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 9: I think what he mentioned, like they have to continue
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 9: to put their money where their mouth is. They did
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 9: was talking about weaponizing the offense, and now they need
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 9: to weaponize the offense, considering they didn't really do that
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 9: in free agency.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well you're not gonna, you know, from this point on, like,
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 4: there's no way stud offensive guys. So if you're really
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 4: looking for that type of weapon. You're gonna have to
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 4: trade for something for sure. But you know we're still
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 4: talking tackle. Yeah, I know that's not a weapon, but
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 4: tackles helped the weapons perform, so and there's still some
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 4: good tackles out there. Yeah they kool aid, Yeah, kool aid.
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 4: McKinstry goes to the Saints. Hey, we're just talking about
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 4: We were just talking about him. So things are happening.
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 4: The the Texans are on the board on the clock
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 4: right now. Deuce in yourself tomorrow went out to film something.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 4: Is that where you were?
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 10: I went to get my laptop.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 4: Oh, you want to get your laptop so I can.
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 10: Be ready to go. When we talked to mister.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 4: Polk, Deuce is going to film something.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 10: Yeah, Dus and Evan are filming a debrief on Jelen Polk.
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 4: Okay, m hm, all right, Let's see who do we
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 4: got h If the Patriots hold tight, it's going to
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 4: be a while before they pick. But the best running
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 4: back left on the board right now is Jonathan Brooks
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 4: from Texas. Would you agree with that?
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he's the number one running back. But who are
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 5: you looking to take a running back?
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 4: Well, we're just you know, thinking about weaponizing. Oh please, no,
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 4: So if you get into the third round and he's
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 4: still there, no, no, no, no.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 5: I would take another wide receiver.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I'd rather double dip on wide receiver, especially when
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 9: you look at our current room and we're not really
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 9: overly impressed with it. And just like you said, it's
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 9: not like any of these guys right now today are
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 9: going to move the needle. But hey, why not bring
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 9: some other guys in the mix that we haven't seen
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 9: yet and see what they can do.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 5: I mean, they have Stevenson and Gibson, you know, I
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 5: think that you can fill in the other spots and
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 5: figure out if it's Kevin Harris or somebody else. But
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 5: I think they have too many needs. That's something in
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 5: the fifth round to worry about filling backup spots.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, I just thought, maybe you know, the best
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 4: running back if you had the shot at him later,
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 4: you know, in the third round, not not worth the value.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 5: I mean if he was like an unbelievably dynamic, versatile weapon,
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 5: you know, like Jamier Gibbson b Jon Robinson were last year,
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 5: then you know I would understand the skill set. Obviously,
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 5: guys with that skill set. They went where they went
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 5: the top half of the first round, but I don't
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 5: think that these guys are like that.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 7: Who are we talking about?
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 5: Fred wants to take a running back in the third round.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 7: Fourth round, fourth round, fourth round. I really wonder if
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 7: they added that fourth round pick to maybe try to
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 7: set up a double dip at receiver tackle and then
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 7: also still get a running back, because that's when the
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 7: running running backs is going to happen. I would think.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 4: Robin san Diego via Connecticut excited we picked the wide receiver. However,
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 4: already a lot on social media about his slowness contested catches.
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 4: In comparisons to Nikhil Harry, can you describe the difference
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 4: in these players.
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 5: I don't really see.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 7: Nikill Harry no, so Jalen Polk is very very good
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 7: route runner, crafty route runner, heady route runner. I think
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 7: contested catch is the wrong term to use. I would
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 7: prefer to use a guy that finishes through contact. And
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 7: maybe that's like a semantics thing, but I think there
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 7: is a difference. I think when people here contested catches,
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 7: they think of Devonte Parker catching fifty to fifty balls
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 7: on the outside. This is more that He's got really
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 7: good play strength and catch you know, really strong hands
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 7: at the catch point that when guys are in man
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 7: coverage and then they get on him at the catch point,
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 7: he's able to finish through that and power through it.
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 7: I don't I see like a power slot Z type
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 7: of receiver here, not Nikhil Harry. Like this guy can
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 7: run routes, he can get off the line of scream,
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 7: and she's got some burst. He's got really good hands.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 7: That doesn't make him jump ball receiver. He's just got
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 7: really good hands.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 10: Who's his player come?
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 7: So the two comps that I use, and I just
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 7: joked with deuce. One of them I stopped using because
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 7: Rashee Rice decided to go speeding down the highway. But
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 7: I see a lot of Rashi Rice in his game.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 7: And I see a lot of Kendrick Bourne in his
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 7: game as well. You know, sneaky good after the catch.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 7: He's got some burst after the catch. But those guys
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 7: that are you know, good route runners, strong hands, can
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 7: make some acrobatic catches every once in a while, can
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 7: beat man coverage, but not necessarily that top of the
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 7: depth charge solid receive.
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 5: And I loved Rashi Rice last year in the draft.
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 5: I like that kind of a skill set, you know,
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 5: the versatility. You know, I don't know if this guy's
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 5: as fast, but you know, I don't know what they timed.
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 5: You know. I'm talking about on the field, yeah, fast
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 5: and not being snarky about his driving. I was talking
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 5: about actual on field speed. Yeah yeah, some people, you know,
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 5: I think like I had sort of talked about what
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 5: Daniel Jeremiah did and tweeted out, you know, the excellent
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 5: number two potential, and people are like taking that as
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 5: like a negative. I don't really understand, Like, well, people
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 5: are clamoring for the number one receiver, but I get
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 5: that there's not a lot of number one receivers that
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 5: you target in the second round, right like that, like
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 5: right out of the shoot. Now, I'm not telling you
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 5: you can't be a number like Terry McLaurin was like
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 5: a third round pick. He's number one. I'm not telling
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 5: you you can't find them. But I don't necessarily think
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 5: you go up, you go into the thirty seventh pick
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 5: saying I have to find my number one guy right here.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah No, I mean, maybe he turns out to be
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 5: better than we think and he's the number one receiver
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 5: and that happens quite often.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 4: Absolutely Yeah, Bill and Vista California love the pick so far.
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 4: I'd love to double dip today. However, the wide receiver,
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 4: the wide receiver room should be a blood bath, so
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 4: natural selection can prevail. I say, no one is safe
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 4: and may the best man win.
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 5: If you pick two guys, it's not gonna be a bloodbath.
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 5: If you pick two good receivers, and you know in
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 5: the second and third round, then does guys that won't
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 5: be on the team. Yeah, like, I don't think it's
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 5: gonna be. They don't have a lot of NFL caliber receivers.
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 5: I'm sorry, they have a lot of names. They don't
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 5: have a lot of like Taekwon Thornton has not proven
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 5: to be an NFL receiver.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 10: Absolutely not.
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 4: Let's see. Alex writes in Yes, Paul count me as
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 4: one of the North Carolina residents who was out on
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 4: Drake May.
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 5: However, that's three.
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 4: I'm a wolf Pack alum, and the only tape I've
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 4: watched on May up to last night was him versus
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 4: North Carolina State. Now I'll take back what I said,
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 4: because after seeing more tape good and bad, I see
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 4: the potential you've all been talking about the last few months.
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 4: I still have my concerns and how he developed, but
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 4: that's given. With every high draft pick, I will say
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 4: that the Patriots make the Patriots will have one of
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 4: the most competitive teams for years to come. I think
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 4: there's something to be said about the last two first
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 4: round picks for the Patriots, May and Gonzalez growing up
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 4: in such competitive household and hating to lose in the
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 4: small things against their family members. Added bonus, both players
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 4: feel like they were the runt and on tape look
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 4: like they play with that chip on their shoulder. To me,
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 4: that's great signs dogging them, great signs of that type
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 4: team I want to see the Patriots have again.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I wouldn't. I wouldn't say that about Christian Gonzales.
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 4: Well, the sisters were a good athlete.
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I wouldn't say that. The knock on Christian Gonzalez
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 7: is that he didn't have enough dog in him like that.
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 7: You know, I know, I was just I was packing
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 7: for I know. I'm just.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 4: Sure.
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 2: So the.
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 5: Ramstruck gold with star rookie wide receiver Pooka Nkula, who
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 5: somehow fell to the fifth round. I bet no one
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 5: saw number one there either, Yeah, no, and Cooper Cup
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 5: is there number one? Like like, I'll take Jalen Polk
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 5: if he turns out to be a number two like
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 5: Pokin the Coula. I mean, we're gonna laugh at that.
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 5: I'll take that in a blink.
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 7: I don't think that. You know, Pookin Kua had a
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 7: very unique pre draft process where he I think he
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 7: had an injury or something where he had a horrible
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 7: combine in Pro day. But what the rams were really
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 7: attracted to him was with the advanced analytics. The game
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 7: tracking data showed that he was an extremely fast player
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 7: with pads on in game, you know, tracking his miles
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 7: per hour and things like that, and so you know,
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 7: he was another one of those guys that had a
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 7: great Gautlet drill. You know, he was he's football fast,
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 7: whereas some guys are tracked fast. He's football fast. And
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 7: you could make the case, I'm not saying he's going
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 7: to be Pooka Nakua, but you could make the case
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 7: that Jalen Polk is also football fast, but isn't necessarily
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 7: going to go out and run the fastest forty yard dash.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 4: You know who was football fast Jerry Rice, there you go.
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 10: What do we think of his son?
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 8: What happened did he go?
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 10: What do we think of him?
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 4: Later?
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 7: Guy?
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 8: Good size, yeah, cut a lot of touchdowns, good red
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 8: zone guy for for k Leeb Williams. But yeah, no,
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 8: i'd being Brandon Rice.
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 4: He was.
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 8: He was a big board guy for me. But that's
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 8: kind of like a you know, developmental X outside kind
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 8: of a guy. And I don't know, I still I
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 8: still see a need for something like that, Like, you know,
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 8: as much as uh I think that Jalen Polk, you know,
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 8: kind of fits the mold, it's maybe not the tailored,
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 8: you know, presence that you would hope on the outside.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 7: I think I'm gonna start calling him Puka Nikua because
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 7: that that now will get people a little bit more excited.
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 7: I think that some of the other comps I've thrown
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 7: out there, I think they's the one thing that you
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 7: and I agree with you completely do so that they
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 7: could still use that outside guy. But I wonder in
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 7: this type of offense, you look at a lot of
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 7: these types of receivers that the Packers, the Niners, the Rams,
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 7: like those teams are attracted to play. Strength is a
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 7: major major trait that those teams all are attracted to.
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 7: Like you talk about uh Nikua, Cooper, Cup, Brandon I, Yuk,
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 7: de Bos, Samuel, the guys in Green Bay Dobbs and
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 7: Watson and the guy Jayden Reid from last year. Like
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 7: those guys are all strong players and can block and
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 7: can run that outside zone scheme and then you know,
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 7: create chunks off the play actions and things like that.
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 7: So this is a very like Rams Niners type of receiver.
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I think, what what and we like
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 8: the guy coming out Christian Watson, you know, for you
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 8: mentioned the packers, like you know, that kind of height, speed,
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 8: you know, just kind of the full package. And I
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 8: mean when we I mean I talk about one hundred
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 8: times when we were up there in Green Bay. But
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 8: you know, you can just still see the potential that
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 8: that guy has with you know that, And that's what
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 8: I'd like, Like Keon Coleman, it's like appealing to have
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 8: some size like he has, but you just want to
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 8: find a guy with size that that moves really well.
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 8: And those are guys that are usually first round picks.
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 8: And once you get here, if he's that big, he
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 8: probably don't doesn't run as well as as you'd hope
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 8: he's going to be four five, four.
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 4: Six, Isaac says, greetings from Winnipeg. Just wanted to com
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 4: about mister Lazar. He talks so bad about bo Nicks
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 4: that I had him pictured in my mind as Brian
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 4: Hoyer was surprised yesterday when I saw he has the
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 4: same baby face as May. Okay, so that changed your mind?
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't. I'm all up for the I Barth
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 7: is definitely lower on bow Nix than I am. The
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 7: whole thing with bow Knix is just you know, he
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 7: Bo Nicks was the floor prospect of this quarterback class.
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 7: He is what he is. He's twenty four years old.
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 7: He's gonna press the right buttons on the controller. But
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 7: is he gonna go outside the lines and make his
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 7: own masterpiece?
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 29: Like?
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 7: Probably not. And that's that's bo Nicks and that at
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 7: three overall is just not what you're looking for. You
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 7: you're looking for the guy that's gonna, you know, drop
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 7: the Mona Lisa, not the guy that's just gonna do
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 7: the coloring book.
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 4: You know, Mike and the oc Fred. You love Debo
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 4: and you consider him the best football player in the league.
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 4: With the trade roomors heating up today. Do you think
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 4: acquiring Debo is the right move for this team or
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 4: should we stand pat and find receivers in the draft
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 4: to develop. I like the Poke pick, but I would
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 4: love to get Roman Wilson or even Tess Walker to
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 4: give the team one more developmental receiver.
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I think Tess Walker's will still be still be
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 8: on the table.
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 7: You know, I love the tes Walker idea.
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 8: Now it is just it's it is just interesting to
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 8: me though. I mean, like I said, this is ten
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 8: receivers they have on the roster right now. So ten,
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 8: I mean it's you know, it's a lot, and if
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 8: you add an eleventh, it's just you know, the message
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 8: it kind of sends is that this is this is
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 8: a position group's gonna be turned over largely. I mean,
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 8: they brought back Kendrick Bourne. He he ain't going anywhere.
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 8: Pop Douglas ain't going anywhere. After that, It's it's all I.
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 5: Would say, j Osbourne and him to this guy aren't
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 5: going anywhere. Therefore the rest of their jobs have to
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 5: be one.
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 10: Yeah, Oh, Steph's on.
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 4: Okay, So let's go to the first press conference with
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 4: the media with Jalen pok the Yeah, okay, all right,
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 4: we'll scuttle that plan. Okay, we can see him, but
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 4: we can't hear him. So while we're uh, while we're
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 4: waiting for that audio to come through, he's got the.
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 8: Hat already though, So so my first question is where
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 8: is he?
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 8: Yeah, it looks like he's uh yeah, So like what
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 8: am I hear?
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 7: Like I'm hearing something that's from Tamara.
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 4: Oh that's tires all right? So chat at Atlanta, says,
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 4: I don't get it. Poke is Kendrick Bourne? We have
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 4: enough number two wide receivers. Did Aid Mitchell get taken
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 4: already and I missed it?
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 5: What gives he did not get taken yet? Yeah, there's
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 5: something going on with a d Mitchell.
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 7: Adie Mitchell is getting dwanon right now. So we're gonna
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 7: get a million of emails about why the Patriots are
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 7: not jumping on Adie Mitchell, the League is not jumping
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 7: on Adi Mitchell. There's something going on with Ady Mitchell
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 7: that's causing him to fall. I'm not trying to get
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 7: annoyed with the listeners, but like, let's keep up a
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 7: little bit and recognize that there's something going on with
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 7: Adi Mitchell, and that's why he's not getting taken by anybody,
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 7: not just the Patriots.
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 8: He's sliding, as they say, Yeah, I mean, it happens
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 8: every year, and you know, you don't know what the
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 8: reason is. I mean, and honestly, I mean, I think,
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 8: you know, what we talked about earlier is a great point.
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 8: Like a kid like this who has been dealing with something,
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 8: you get him into a professional environment, you would hope that,
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 8: you know, they'd really get that taken care of. So
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 8: I'm sure, you know, sooner or later, some team's going
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 8: to take a swing on him and you know, hope
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 8: that they can, you know, figure out what was going on.
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 8: And I know he had some issues at the combine.
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 8: That was also part of you know, what McGinn pointed out.
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 8: But you know, I think, you know, for all the
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 8: fact that Polk might not you know, be that number
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 8: one and that outside kind of presence, purely on paper,
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 8: it certainly seems like Polk is a reliable, you know,
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 8: receiver that seems to keep developing. And you know, Evan
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 8: and I we just shot a quick YouTube kind of
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 8: recap of the pick, and you know, he just he
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 8: feels like a solid NFL player, and you know, I
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 8: don't know if that you know, to some people that
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 8: probably is annoying, But at this point in the draft,
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 8: I think you take a shot on a guy like that,
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 8: you see how he develops. Maybe Drake May has a
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 8: you know, has a nice connection with him. And I
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 8: liked what Cam Williams had to say about him too,
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 8: that he has probably a little bit you know, more
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 8: versatility that that you might think.
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 5: So I I do like the pick.
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 8: I get what people are saying about. You know, you
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 8: want kind of that name and you know a d
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 8: Mitchell has the forty time and you know, the size
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 8: and all those those traits that you really feel like
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 8: they need.
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 5: But I do think pulls it put And I just
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 5: want to be be kind of consistent here. I'm banking
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 5: on the red flags with ad Mitchell. Yeah, like the
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 5: Bob mcgainn report from today. If that turns out to
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 5: be not a big deal and someone picks him and
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 5: he's fine for the next ten years, I'll be pissed. Yeah,
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 5: it's because that's a huge miss to me because I
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 5: don't think this. I think the other guy is much
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 5: more talented. Mitchell, I think is much more talent, no doubt,
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 5: But I'm banking on the Bob McGinn. He has this
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 5: stuff every year that he sort of he in dribs
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 5: and drabs. He he trickles this stuff out on Draft weekend.
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 4: And where's he from, Bob green Bay?
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 8: Yeah, used to be green Bay and I think he's
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 8: like his own site now he's fights.
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 4: For other picks that have happened since the sports ms
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 4: went to Alabama.
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 5: Your boy just went Fred to the Panthers, Jonathan Brooks.
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 7: Cooper dejan went to the Eagle.
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 8: I saw Max Meltain who went to the Cardinals. He
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 8: was another guy I just I really liked.
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 7: So we got since the Patriots pick, we got Devandre Sweat,
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 7: who just got arrested for d W I like a
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 7: couple of weeks ago. So that guy got picked before
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 7: Adie Mitchell got picked. And he's actually in a criminal
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 7: trial right now. Devandre Sweat, Brandon Fiskey from Florida State
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 7: who I loved. It's just a high motor and your
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 7: past pressure. Cooper de Gene, kool Aid McKinstry, Kamari lot
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 7: Lassiter from Georgia, Max Meltin, Jackson Powers, Johnson, Edrin Cooper
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 7: Jonathan Brooks.
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 4: Okay, let's let's see if we can get Jalen right now. Nope,
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 4: I guess not all right, No, Matt not working, okay,
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 4: all right, So the running back.
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 20: The top rates, Oh, here we go like that they
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 20: put in, so, you know, is the honor for you
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 20: know me to be able to represent the name that's
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 20: on my back and you know, I'm excited to go
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 20: put even more you know, smiles on their face and
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 20: for the things that you know I'm about to go.
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 12: Do for this team. Thank you and congratulations again, appreciate it.
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 12: So two final questions here, starting with.
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 7: Doug Kyde.
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 30: Jalen congratulations and welcome to New England. Can you take
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 30: us through your experience playing the different receiving roles in offense? Uh,
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 30: the X, the Z, the slot all those different times.
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 20: Yeah, I think, you know, being an lead player, you
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 20: got to be able to know how to move around
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 20: and do different things, and you know, be able to
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 20: go out there and contribute, you know, to your offense.
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 20: So you know, being versatile, being able to move inside outside.
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 12: You know, know what everybody's doing on the field is
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 12: very important.
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 20: So you know, I think it's my job to you know,
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 20: know as much as I can, you know, to go
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 20: out there and make plays for those guys that you
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 20: know are putting in work, you know, each and every place,
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 20: So you know, I want to put my quarterback in
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 20: the best situation possible, so you know, I know I'm
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 20: going to be able to go out there and make
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 20: plays for him, so, you know, and just being able
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 20: to help other guys around me make their job easier
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 20: as well, so you know, when that guy is lining
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 20: up next to me, he can trust me. Put it
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 20: in trust in me that you know, I'm be able
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 20: to know what I'm going to do, and you know
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 20: we can feed off each other and be able to
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 20: communicate and help each other as well.
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 30: And one other quick question, how much contact did you
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 30: have with the Patriots before the draft?
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 20: Yeah, you know, I had an opportunity to have you know,
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 20: a couple of interviews and stuff. So it was awesome
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 20: and you know, I'm super excited to be a part
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 20: of this organization.
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 30: Thank you, Jim.
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 10: A couple more questions here, so we'll go to Taylor Kyles.
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 12: Billing, Hello, welcome to New England.
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 21: Congratulations apprecire watching that Watchington offense man, You guys were
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 21: bombings away a lot of success downfield for your game specifically,
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 21: I'm wondering how would you describe your strengths and your
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 21: ability to have success in that downfield role, especially with
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 21: the quarterback like Drake May who loves to throw those.
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 5: Kinds of passes.
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 12: You know, my mindset is just be different. You know,
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 12: a lot of guys are putting in a lot.
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 20: Of work, you know, so in order to separate yourself,
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 20: youve got to find a way that you know, you
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 20: can be different within yourself. So, you know, challenging myself,
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 20: you know, finding my weaknesses, the things that I need
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 20: to work on to be able to excel my game
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 20: and you know, separate myself from the best. So, you know,
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 20: just continuously to have that you know, high standard mindset
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 20: of you know, wanting to be are each and every
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 20: day and pushing the guys around me as well being
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 20: a leader. So you know, I think you know what
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 20: I bring to the table and feeding off the other
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 20: guys as well. Uh, it's gonna it's what's gonna make
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 20: us true to our game and capable of the things
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 20: that we're going to be able to do outside on
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 20: the field and.
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 21: To that point, is there a specific area of your
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 21: game that you would say you're actively trying to work on.
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 20: I'm always trying to find a way to better, you know,
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 20: just you know, having more energy in my routes, you know,
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 20: being more efficient coming out of my breaks. So you
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 20: know that's something that you know, I had the opportunity
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 20: to work on, you know with my trainer Del Fonte,
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 20: you know these past couple of weeks, you know, leading
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 20: up to this process and you know, being more slow
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 20: so you know, being able to break off those tackles,
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 20: make that extra guy missed, you know, utilizing my body
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 20: and my strengths and knowing that you know, I'm a
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 20: physical receiver, you know, stay farming that guy and making
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 20: that making that guy miss So you know, I'm excited
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 20: to be able to you know, show the world you
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 20: know what I can do again and uh help this
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 20: team with games.
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 12: Awesome, Thanks so much. Congratulations again, very appreciate it. Nick Giovanni, Hey.
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 18: John, congratulations and welcome. Just hoping that you could kind
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 18: of like, who would you who would you compare your
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 18: game to from you know, modern day players in the league.
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 18: Who would you look up to? Whould you you know,
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 18: model your game after and you know, for those who
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 18: don't know your playing style, just how how would you
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 18: describe it?
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 10: Yeah?
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 20: Man, I watch guys like Andre Johnson, Keenan Allen, and
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 20: you know, Keenan out On one of those guys who
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 20: who made a major effective you know, you know who
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 20: I watch on film. So you know, his ability just
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 20: to make guys miss and you know, go up and
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 20: keep his balance and go get those extra yards and
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 20: you know, having that certain dog mentality of you know,
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 20: going to lead his team. So and his releases are
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 20: are pretty good. So you know, watching his releases, the
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 20: things that he does in order for him to be
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 20: able to create some is elite. So you know, I
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 20: always try to, you know, find an opportunity to watch
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 20: guys you know that our leader.
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 12: What they do so is because there's a reason why
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 12: you know, they're doing what they're doing. Thank you appreciate it.
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 4: All the questions that we have for today, So thank
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 4: you so much for joining us.
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 7: All Right, I like that Keenan Allen. Yeah, like obviously
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 7: ceiling ceiling, ceiling, but if you're looking for you know,
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 7: who could he be if he absolutely hits his ceiling
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 7: and his you know Terry McLaurin of the second round.
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 7: Then I see Keenan Allen. I can do a shortage
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 7: of confidence pretty smooth. H Just you know, being an
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 7: elite player, you have to be able to move around
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 7: and do different things like I like that one.
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I just think it's I like the
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 5: idea of you know, maybe people are put off because
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 5: he's been described as like a number two receiver. He
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 5: doesn't act like one, and I like that. Yeah, I
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 5: like that. He was in Houston, I guess at the
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 5: draft party at his you know, at his draft party
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 5: with his family.
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 4: Ashton from Louisiana. A good question. Where does Pope fall
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 4: right now on the depth chart?
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 8: I think, like Paul, Paul listed off. I mean, that's tough.
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 7: We haven't even seen.
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 4: Well.
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 8: I mean, you got look he got Pop Douglas is
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 8: going to that's his role, you know. kJ Osborne, I
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 8: think is also kind of a slot. But I I
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 8: you got to put him up there. Kender Borne's coming
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 8: off an injury, so I mean, really, you know, right now,
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 8: i'd put him you know, fourth or fifth. I mean
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 8: it's just I don't know what juice put him to
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 8: me too, But I don't like he's never It's also
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 8: kind of you know, we talked so much about this
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 8: Paul with JJ McCarthy because Roalmadonsay was in Washington's offense.
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 8: We've never seen the offense run through Jalen Polk because
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 8: Jalen Polk never had that opportunity ed Washington. I'm not
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 8: saying that he's going to be able to do it
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 8: because we haven't seen it. So if we see it,
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 8: you know, maybe he is Keenan Allen, like maybe he
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 8: can be Terry McLaurin, like those are also guys who
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 8: Keenan Allen, maybe not as much, but like McLaurin at
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 8: Ohio State, the offense never ran through him. He never
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 8: got the ball, you know, That's what it was, the
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 8: whole knock on him. So I can see him being
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 8: a second wide receiver. I think a lot of people
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 8: are getting, you know, upset about that, but I think
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 8: that he's a really good second receiver if he hits
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 8: his ceiling, you know that a high end wide receiver too.
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 4: When does a receiver like certain receivers like Terry McLaurin, like,
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 4: no one thought he was going to be as good
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 4: as he he is right, Yeah, like, what are the
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 4: factors that you know, actually a receiver performs better in
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 4: the NFL than they did in college.
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 5: I'll give you a guy who thought he was going
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 5: to be great, is our own Eldred. Yeah, he loved McLaurin.
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I thought a lot of people did.
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 5: I mean, people were high on him coming out. I
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 5: thought he slipped.
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 8: I would say somewhere in the area fred of you know,
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 8: having play speed, you know, like the measureles didn't blow
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 8: you away, But you're like, this guy's just got it.
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 8: Like you look out there, he knows how to get
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 8: open and maybe he's not a burner, but it looks
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 8: smooth and he gets to the right spots and he
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 8: catches the ball.
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 4: Is there something to the to Maybe some of these
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 4: receivers are actually better than their quarterback and but they
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 4: just can't show it because their quarterback's just not good enough.
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 4: The reverse, I'm NFL open, you just don't see it.
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 7: I wouldn't say that was the case at Washington last
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 7: year with Pennix, but I think, you know, I'm just
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 7: saying in general, you know, yeah, I think with Polk,
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 7: you know, there's a lot of NFL open with him
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 7: on on tape that he's got such great hands and
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 7: play strength and body control that even though he's not
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 7: creating oodles of separation, he's open and a guy like
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 7: Drake may will be able to get him the ball
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 7: situations and he's not afraid to be aggressive and throw
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 7: it into those windows. So I do like that pairing
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 7: for that reason. I think this is a receiver that
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 7: has really really good hands and really good play strength
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 7: and really good route running with the quarterback that has
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 7: the arm to fit it into some tighter windows if
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 7: he has to to him. So we'll see what happens.
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 7: I just with Polk, I think the biggest thing is
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 7: is that you really need to have a complimentary piece
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 7: on the outside. If he asked me to really get
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 7: the most out of him.
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I would just say back to the receiving corps
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 5: in general. I mean, if it works out, I think
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 5: you're talking about you. You're hoping that it's born. Polk
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 5: and Osborne are your top three guys. I mean if
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 5: I mean he's never stepped on the field. I don't
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 5: want to put undo nopectations on him, but you drafted
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 5: this guy to be a big piece and you you
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 5: got to hope that this is not you know, like
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 5: Nikhil Harry and Taekwon Thornton and other guys that you
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 5: drafted to be big pieces that that never were.
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 4: Tyler Nuban from UH safety goes to the Giants and
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 4: Mason Smith, defensive tackle out of LSU goes to the Panthers.
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 8: I actually Mason Smith was a big board guy from
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 8: a Wars Jadwarts. I'm sorry I liked him. I mean
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 8: I didn't think it was a huge need, but I
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 8: just thought he was a Patriots kind of fit and
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 8: you know, big kind of.
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 7: Another one that just went to the Bengals, another Patriot
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 7: type of guy. Yeah, but yeah, Tyler Neuban was. I
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 7: was late to him in the process, but you know,
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 7: a free safety, true free safety prospect, but not very
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 7: aggressive in terms of like jumping passing lanes and stuff
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 7: like that. His tape kind of reminded me a lot
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 7: of Darn Harmon where it's like, yeah, he's he's on
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 7: the post, like he's there every single time he needs
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 7: to be there, and he's kind of you know, the
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 7: nobody over, you know, like was his deep as his
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 7: deepest right, I think is what they usually term it
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 7: as yeah, exactly, but it's not like this aggressive ball
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 7: hawking attacking free safety that's gonna make these splash plays
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 7: is more gonna just be positionally sound and where he
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 7: needs to be. So I liked him. If he's this
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 7: is high for the Patriots to take him here. If
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 7: he fell a little bit because of that, then maybe
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 7: I could have seen that in like the third or
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 7: fourth round.
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 4: Okay, let's get back to the phones. Eight five five,
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 4: pass five hundred. We'll start with Joe and Colorado. What's
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  Speaker 4: up Joe, Hey, guys, long time listener.
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  Speaker 7: First on color Oh thank you.
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  Speaker 16: So I was watching with the sound off and I
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  Speaker 16: saw a Lad McCaughey answer and the phone.
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  Speaker 15: I got real exciting when we realized what happened.
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  Speaker 8: Oh you're hurting Fred right now and it's pouring salt
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  Speaker 8: in the wound.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: But anyways, when they.
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  Speaker 16: Trade it down, I really thought they should have traded
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  Speaker 16: down again and just gone was the offensive guy. So
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  Speaker 16: it seems like there's about ten guys that's comparable that
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  Speaker 16: are going to be there in the third Do you
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  Speaker 16: mean receivers?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, like who.
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  Speaker 27: I mean?
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  Speaker 15: What about Walker?
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  Speaker 16: First of all, the guy that played with me.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, he's a totally different player though, true, Yeah, a
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  Speaker 7: totally different player I think that. You know, yeah, there's
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  Speaker 7: some guys, you know, Roman Wilson I think would be
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  Speaker 7: somewhat comparable Jayalen McMillan, his teammate at Washington. But you
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  Speaker 7: know the guys that are left on the board, Troy Franklin,
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  Speaker 7: Javon Baker, tes Walker, Uh, those are those are different
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  Speaker 7: types of of receivers, you know, different skill sets than
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  Speaker 7: what he's got.
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  Speaker 5: Well, and I would just ask one. I would just
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  Speaker 5: ask like what did you want to trade down for?
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  Speaker 5: Like what did you not not necessarily the player, but
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  Speaker 5: like what were you looking to pick up? The last
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  Speaker 5: trade down you know, warranted like moving up twenty spots
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  Speaker 5: in the fifth round.
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  Speaker 16: Prove. But I feel like with all the defensive players
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  Speaker 16: is really really strong at the end of this round.
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  Speaker 5: So I mean, just any no, I know, but like,
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  Speaker 5: like like I said, it's not like trading down was
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  Speaker 5: necessarily adding picks, So you're just moving down and then
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  Speaker 5: you're sliding up in later rounds to make up for it.
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  Speaker 5: I don't really know if you were getting anything.
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  Speaker 4: Out of it in terms of acid, right that yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And that's my only point. I I I mean, I
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  Speaker 5: think that I don't know, we'll we'll watch some of
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  Speaker 5: these wide receivers that go later. I you know there's
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  Speaker 5: some that I like. Yeah, me too, you know, and
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  Speaker 5: I'll be watching to see if they're better.
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  Speaker 8: Than Poet Malachai Corley have to be a camp for
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  Speaker 8: me to see.
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  Speaker 5: There's something about the and and and I know I
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  Speaker 5: can't get Taekwon throwing out of my mind, but there's
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  Speaker 5: something about Troy Franklin that I really like. And I
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  Speaker 5: I just look at him and I see a guy
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  Speaker 5: like Brandon Cooks or even Christian. It's all like that
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  Speaker 5: explosive guy that can you know those team goes.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah yeah, big plays.
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  Speaker 7: I think my.
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  Speaker 8: Problem with Troy Franklin was Evan scared me off of them,
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  Speaker 8: like and that sounds off.
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  Speaker 5: Them like he's I think he's one hundred and seventy
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  Speaker 5: eight pounds of the whatever. Like that scared me.
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  Speaker 8: And that was one of my big like things from
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  Speaker 8: last year is like I can't let Evan scare me
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  Speaker 8: off of guys because because you like, you'll you'll like
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  Speaker 8: be off a guy and then you'll be like, well,
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  Speaker 8: I'm kind of back on it, you know, like cause
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  Speaker 8: you're you're kind of like when you're there, you're there
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  Speaker 8: and then you know, but yeah, but you're but your
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  Speaker 8: open minded. I feel like you'll look at guys more.
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  Speaker 7: And I see I feel the same exact way about
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  Speaker 7: about Karan Coleman as I do with Troy Franklin. I
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  Speaker 7: I see potential for both those guys to be really
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  Speaker 7: good NFL players. I just don't want to find out
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  Speaker 7: if it's gonna if it were the team that's gonna
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  Speaker 7: find out, like I don't want us to be the
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  Speaker 7: team that finds out that's it. Right because of PTSD
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  Speaker 7: from past Patriots guys, Kean Coleman could go on to
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  Speaker 7: be a star in Buffalo. There's there's no doubt about.
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  Speaker 7: That's why I had him as my seventh ranked receiver
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  Speaker 7: in the class. Like I don't, I see the talent.
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  Speaker 7: It's just that the red flags with his film, not
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  Speaker 7: saying he has red flags characterized or anything, but the
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  Speaker 7: red flags with his film line up with the same
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  Speaker 7: red flags that we have with Nikhil Harry. I don't
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  Speaker 7: want to be the team that has to develop Keon
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  Speaker 7: Coleman let Buffalo worry about that.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what we'll take I didn't love.
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  Speaker 7: We'll take Jail and Pole, who's the solid route runner
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  Speaker 7: with the good hands and the feisty play strength and
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  Speaker 7: all that kind of stuff. And I'm happier with that
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  Speaker 7: because there's less volatility to it.
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  Speaker 5: Sure, what about everet High School with first round pick,
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  Speaker 5: second round pick, and a fourth round pick like in
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  Speaker 5: the last four years, the facts to be something in
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  Speaker 5: the water, don't don't scoff with that? Who's the last
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  Speaker 5: guy drafted out of Denis Yarmouth?
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  Speaker 8: Why the Dolphins?
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  Speaker 13: The Dolphins are the Dolphins?
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  Speaker 4: Dolphins?
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  Speaker 10: Is eighty still available?
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  Speaker 4: Yes? Yeah, but we don't have guys that are twenty
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  Speaker 4: eight years old playing out our team?
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  Speaker 10: So would you take him, Evan?
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  Speaker 7: I would have taken them at thirty three? Like obviously
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  Speaker 7: there's something out there about ad Mitchell, Like there's obviously
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  Speaker 7: something going on Marks in Connecticut?
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  Speaker 4: What's up? Mark?
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  Speaker 23: Hey?
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  Speaker 17: How's it going guys?
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  Speaker 5: Mark?
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  Speaker 15: Evan?
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  Speaker 17: How far down do you think ad Mitchell is gonna go?
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  Speaker 7: Who knows?
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  Speaker 17: And then the other question is THEO Johnson is my
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  Speaker 17: tight end in this draft, and I'm wondering when you
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  Speaker 17: think he's gonna go because I think he's got the
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  Speaker 17: most upside of sight end because he's he's big, stay
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  Speaker 17: catch really well. So I just wanted your you know,
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  Speaker 17: your take on those things.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, Adi Mitchell, I'm operating under the assumption that Adie
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  Speaker 7: Mitchell is in a similar spot as Dwan Jones was
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  Speaker 7: last year. So maybe the top of the fourth round
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  Speaker 7: is where we're talking with a d Mitchell at this point.
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  Speaker 7: That's crazy. And then with THEO Johnson. The issue with
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  Speaker 7: THEO Johnson, he's got zero college production, so his receiving
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  Speaker 7: profile is all projection, Like you are projecting because he's
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  Speaker 7: a freak athlete at two hundred and fifty five pounds
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  Speaker 7: that you are going to get that dipping, you know,
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  Speaker 7: uptick in production at the NFL level. I think he
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  Speaker 7: had something like nineteen catches last year at Penn State. Like,
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  Speaker 7: he just has no production in college. Now, neither did
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  Speaker 7: George Kittle. So like you know that that happens. Just
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  Speaker 7: that's just the way that Penn State doesn't throw the
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  Speaker 7: ball to the tight end. You know, some schools don't.
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  Speaker 7: I wouldn't you know at the time with Kittle, didn't
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  Speaker 7: throw the ball to him, you know, that he goes
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  Speaker 7: the NFL. The Niners turn him into you know what
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  Speaker 7: he is, So it's possible that he could boss him
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  Speaker 7: into that. But I think because of the lack of
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  Speaker 7: production in college, it's tough to use a top one
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  Speaker 7: hundred pick on a guy that has like twenty career
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  Speaker 7: catches at the college. I I do like Jatavian Sanders,
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  Speaker 7: He's a little bit undersized. I like, I love Benson
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  Speaker 7: it Ben's in it, and yeah, later in the draft Wiley.
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  Speaker 7: But I like Theo Johnson enough to take him as
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  Speaker 7: a as an early day three flyer, you know, just
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  Speaker 7: off the athletic traits. But it scares me when God,
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  Speaker 7: you're trying to to look at it and think, oh, like,
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  Speaker 7: we're gonna turn this guy into a thousand yard receiver
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  Speaker 7: when he doesn't even have a thousand yards over four
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  Speaker 7: years in college.
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  Speaker 4: Thanks Mark, appreciate it.
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  Speaker 5: On tired ends.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, we got a just uh you know, we got
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  Speaker 8: tagged in the tweet here from Peter Schreger. Interesting just
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  Speaker 8: NFL has been far higher on polk this entire draft process.
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  Speaker 8: Patriots got themselves a good one. I had Polke going
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  Speaker 8: first round in my first mock last week, So then
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  Speaker 8: we know he's Peter Schrager and well, actually, but you know,
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  Speaker 8: I kind of make fun of Peter Scheger a little bit,
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  Speaker 8: but he actually had a pretty good, pretty good mock,
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  Speaker 8: did he?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, now, Peter, Yeah, Peter Schrager is actually one of
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  Speaker 7: the He's for all the heat that he does get.
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  Speaker 7: And you're not alone, uh, in terms of being tapped
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  Speaker 7: into the league. He has a He's not just tapped
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  Speaker 7: in with like you know, low.
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  Speaker 4: Level scouts, like he's an inside.
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  Speaker 7: He's tapped in with like the coaches in the GMS.
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  Speaker 4: What what do you think of your guy? Alex Barth
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  Speaker 4: calling himself NFL Insider that this is good online? Where
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  Speaker 4: on ninety eight point five's website.
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  Speaker 23: Wait?
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  Speaker 4: Really, yeah, they had NFL insider.
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  Speaker 8: Whoever somebody was doing the chiron for for ninety eight five,
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  Speaker 8: and I think I think NFL analyst would.
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  Speaker 4: Be said NFL Insider.
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  Speaker 7: I'm gonna leave that there. I'm just gonna leave that.
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  Speaker 8: He said he had business cards.
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  Speaker 4: I read that and I held that from my office.
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  Speaker 4: What's the inside not?
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  Speaker 9: Wait it does NFL Insider hints at Patriots. Well, this
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  Speaker 9: is obviously previously old article. NFL insider hints, Okay, well
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  Speaker 9: that's different.
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  Speaker 7: We all get we all we all get that, we
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  Speaker 7: all get the stupid aggregators that like take something this
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  Speaker 7: was ninety.
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  Speaker 8: It's on their own, it's coming from inside the house.
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  Speaker 7: I'm very confused. So ninety eight five aggregated something that Alex.
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  Speaker 5: Said Mitchell, Oh, they Colts.
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  Speaker 7: Oh so that's funny because I comp for Indie Mitchell
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  Speaker 7: as Michael Pittman junior. So now they have to Michael
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  Speaker 7: Pittman juniors on their team, but.
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  Speaker 8: One has.
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  Speaker 7: God forbidden.
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  Speaker 4: Well, they do have a very strong mental health program
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  Speaker 4: in Indianapolis for their owner. Why do you know that
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  Speaker 4: that's his pet Jim Mersey's pet program is mental health.
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  Speaker 4: He's I mean national commercials. I'm serious, they had national
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  Speaker 4: commercials about it, sponsored by the Colts.
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  Speaker 31: He's fired up and that night, so you know anyway Colts, well,
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  Speaker 31: hey listen, Anthony Richardson, I mean, before he got hurt,
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  Speaker 31: he was showing promise.
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  Speaker 4: You know, sure, I mean they could be one of
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  Speaker 4: those teams that like didn't see that coming.
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  Speaker 8: It feels like there's a lot of teams. I mean
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  Speaker 8: I went through the NFC North.
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  Speaker 5: But since they lost on the last play of the
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  Speaker 5: game and missed out on the playoffs as a result.
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  Speaker 5: In the last game of the season. I don't think
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  Speaker 5: people will be that stunned.
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  Speaker 4: If you're right, Well, they're a powerhouse.
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  Speaker 5: No, I don't know about a powerhouse, but I think
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  Speaker 5: if I mean they did they lost on the last
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  Speaker 5: play of the game to Houston. Well, not the last driver.
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  Speaker 5: I don't want to make it overly dramatic. They wipe
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  Speaker 5: down to the last possession. They lost to Houston, and
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  Speaker 5: they would have been in had they beaten Houston.
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  Speaker 4: No, that was without Anthony Richardson.
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  Speaker 8: Right, and the Colts will be We'll be here at
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  Speaker 8: Let's Stadium this year.
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  Speaker 7: So and we're going to watch Adie and Mitchell go
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  Speaker 7: for a buck fifty right in front.
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  Speaker 8: Not not if he's got low blood sugar, he'll be
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  Speaker 8: a pain. And they asked everybody.
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  Speaker 7: Unbelievable.
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  Speaker 10: They can't get him.
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  Speaker 4: SNAKERJJ and k C is on the uh he's taking hotline.
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  Speaker 4: What's what's up? CJ?
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  Speaker 15: Hey, what's up?
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  Speaker 4: Guys?
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  Speaker 15: Oh, Mike, Mike, I'm I'm no, no.
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  Speaker 8: I no, I I was just going to say, you
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  Speaker 8: must be miserable that they're h that they're rolling out
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  Speaker 8: mister four two there in Kansas City.
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  Speaker 15: I'm so upset.
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  Speaker 10: Uh.
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  Speaker 29: I was hoping all night long and like you guys
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  Speaker 29: were that they were going to trade back up in
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  Speaker 29: the first and do something like that. But great, I
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  Speaker 29: guess to watch you know, this all over again. So
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  Speaker 29: but hey, I was wondering what you guys. Obviously, you know,
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  Speaker 29: Adie Mitchell was the biggest thing that I've been like,
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  Speaker 29: you know, following you guys and listen to you guys
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  Speaker 29: and like trying to figure out how come nothing came
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  Speaker 29: out about why he fell so far?
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  Speaker 5: Yet well there there has been.
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  Speaker 15: Oh what came out?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you guys want to talk about the Bob McGinn report.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, just reports that he was a little, a little
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  Speaker 8: mercurial he's dealing with, you know, not or not. I mean,
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  Speaker 8: I joke, but I'm not trying to really joke about.
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  Speaker 8: You know, he has diabetes, so I mean it's it's
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  Speaker 8: an issue that came out from from it. Has diabetes
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  Speaker 8: managed that he didn't manage it well, and he had
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  Speaker 8: some mood swings and stuff. So it's things that I
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  Speaker 8: think could could be managed. And he also didn't have
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  Speaker 8: a great combine and that that also, I think is
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  Speaker 8: is what helped him fall.
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  Speaker 7: On the field testing you're talking about, Yeah, okay, because
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  Speaker 7: he ran like a four three.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah it wasn't wasn't he dropping stuff left and right
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  Speaker 8: in the That might be.
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  Speaker 7: The case, but athletic profile is like one of his
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  Speaker 7: biggest strangths and obviously just like tools, like he's just
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  Speaker 7: a really high upside player tools. But but I would
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  Speaker 7: like to just like make like a not a tool,
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  Speaker 7: a graphic if we could, that, says Ady. Mitchell fell
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  Speaker 7: because of reason. This reason, because we I understand that
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  Speaker 7: people aren't keeping up with the draft as much as
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  Speaker 7: we are. But this is like the seventeenth call. We've gone.
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  Speaker 8: It's gone.
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  Speaker 4: Now Evan's disdained for the callers just continued.
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  Speaker 5: We have you have noticed that, right, I wasn't one.
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  Speaker 8: I'm sorry, watched the draft before you call us Pete.
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  Speaker 7: I'm sorry, but it's like we're getting the same question
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  Speaker 7: every five minutes, and it's I'm sorry. I'm not trying to.
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  Speaker 4: Market falls, says quote. I'm not trying to get annoyed
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  Speaker 4: with the listeners, but let's keep up. I can't believe
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  Speaker 4: it was one and a half hours into the second
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  Speaker 4: day of the draft show before I yelled what a tool.
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  Speaker 8: I gotta say, though, Evan, I see your tweet here
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  Speaker 8: where it's like like somebody's like just camping out of nowhere,
• 2:09:04
  Speaker 8: Jaylen Polk to nikill Harry like when we got it,
• 2:09:06
  Speaker 8: let's today with Drake Mats just another Mac Jones. I
• 2:09:08
  Speaker 8: don't get where people get these things. Did even watch it?
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  Speaker 8: Or they just say I hate that person. I hate
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  Speaker 8: this person now.
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  Speaker 7: I mean I've comped Jalen Polk at this point to Bourin,
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  Speaker 7: I said Rashid Rice. He said Keenan Allen. And we're
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  Speaker 7: somehow hearing all of those things and getting to kill Harry.
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  Speaker 5: And I heard anybody saying to kill Harry.
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  Speaker 8: No, that would have been weird, Like I'm talking by
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  Speaker 8: like the analyst, I would have been Coleman.
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  Speaker 10: Also, anyone saying that Mac Jones and Drake Marya saying we.
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  Speaker 8: Need to suspect. I can't even respond to you because
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  Speaker 8: that's just where.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Matt in uh New Haven. I don't understand the
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  Speaker 4: frustration with taking a number two receiver for all pans out.
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  Speaker 4: Why is that, uh, why is it that it's not
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  Speaker 4: called starting caliber? Yeah, My other question is, do you
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  Speaker 4: think it's unreasonable to see him unsee Kendrick as the
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  Speaker 4: number one?
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  Speaker 5: And no, but that doesn't make him a number one.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, in terms of our depth chart, not talent, you
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  Speaker 4: point Kendrick Bourne is not a number one. Neither are
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  Speaker 4: number one. He just said that. Also, what do you
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  Speaker 4: see the depth chart at wide receiver around mid season? Well, again,
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  Speaker 4: it's it's hard. You know, he's assuming maybe the Mario
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  Speaker 4: continues to develop, which would be great.
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  Speaker 8: Am I am? I? I just I think this is
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  Speaker 8: a me thing. I just I hate one two three.
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  Speaker 8: I hate that stuff.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it I I think it's somewhat overblown, but I
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  Speaker 5: think it's important and I and I think the reason
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  Speaker 5: it's important is what I'm hoping isn't the case with Polk,
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  Speaker 5: but the presence of a Dooneza through a Polk into
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  Speaker 5: a Bourn. Those guys become better players when you have
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  Speaker 5: a one.
• 2:10:42
  Speaker 7: Yeah, right, I think that's what it is, like wide
• 2:10:45
  Speaker 7: receiver one two three, whatever, It's more like a coverage
• 2:10:48
  Speaker 7: dictating receiver, like who's the guy that when we play
• 2:10:51
  Speaker 7: the Jets, that the Jets are going to look on
• 2:10:54
  Speaker 7: the dead part and say we have to put sauce
• 2:10:56
  Speaker 7: on this guy? You know, we don't he's got to
• 2:10:59
  Speaker 7: be on this guy or who's the guy? Then when
• 2:11:01
  Speaker 7: they play a team says, well, if we don't put
• 2:11:03
  Speaker 7: the safety over on that side of the field, then
• 2:11:06
  Speaker 7: we're gonna be in trouble all game long. And that,
• 2:11:08
  Speaker 7: to Paul's point, is what opens it up for everybody
• 2:11:11
  Speaker 7: else in the offense. So it's it's a hierarchy, right,
• 2:11:13
  Speaker 7: But isn't that predictable? I mean, wouldn't you rather have
• 2:11:15
  Speaker 7: them to say, we don't know who to put sauce on. No,
• 2:11:18
  Speaker 7: you know, like just go follow him like this? Is
• 2:11:20
  Speaker 7: that just too straightforward of an offense?
• 2:11:22
  Speaker 4: No, because now you're easy to defend.
• 2:11:24
  Speaker 8: Yeah, but not necessarily. I mean, you know, I just
• 2:11:27
  Speaker 8: I look at look, you need to challenge the field
• 2:11:29
  Speaker 8: on all levels. You need speed, you need size, and
• 2:11:33
  Speaker 8: you need quickness, and those are the elements.
• 2:11:34
  Speaker 4: So that kind of well, but in your scenario, everybody
• 2:11:38
  Speaker 4: is a competent receiver, so that no matter where, whether
• 2:11:42
  Speaker 4: it's Drake mayor Jacobe Brissett, he has reliable targets all
• 2:11:46
  Speaker 4: over the field.
• 2:11:47
  Speaker 8: Yeah, that's that's asking a lot.
• 2:11:49
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I need a shiny toy.
• 2:11:51
  Speaker 9: I need something that everyone's like seeking after and wants
• 2:11:56
  Speaker 9: and right now there's no one are a wide receiver.
• 2:11:58
  Speaker 8: But like, why did the twenty ten Patriots and the
• 2:12:00
  Speaker 8: whole thing, like get up on get take take Moss
• 2:12:04
  Speaker 8: over the top away and get up on Welker? Right,
• 2:12:06
  Speaker 8: Moss was a number one, you had a number.
• 2:12:09
  Speaker 4: Had it well? But I mean in he wasn't.
• 2:12:12
  Speaker 8: But but did anyone know that? Going like you know
• 2:12:14
  Speaker 8: what I mean?
• 2:12:14
  Speaker 5: The first go over the top and make sure we
• 2:12:17
  Speaker 5: don't just let him run down the field. They're powerless
• 2:12:19
  Speaker 5: to beat us. They try to do that in seven
• 2:12:22
  Speaker 5: and how that work? You got twenty three touchdowns beating
• 2:12:25
  Speaker 5: cover two. Like that's the difference between a guy who
• 2:12:28
  Speaker 5: doesn't matter what you do. As Evan said, he's going
• 2:12:31
  Speaker 5: to keep you up at night the night before. Now,
• 2:12:33
  Speaker 5: I really like, I'm not I don't want to put again.
• 2:12:37
  Speaker 5: I said this about twenty minutes ago about Polk. I
• 2:12:39
  Speaker 5: don't want to put unnecessary pressure on him. I think
• 2:12:43
  Speaker 5: that he has a chance to already be the best receiver.
• 2:12:45
  Speaker 7: They have agreed that's not a very high bar.
• 2:12:48
  Speaker 5: But agreed no, because yeah, you could make an argument like, oh,
• 2:12:52
  Speaker 5: Paul's being pissy about it because he's he's dumping on
• 2:12:55
  Speaker 5: all the other receivers. No, I think this guy has
• 2:12:57
  Speaker 5: a chance to be really good. I'm just hoping that
• 2:13:00
  Speaker 5: he's not a product of Adunza and Penix, you know,
• 2:13:04
  Speaker 5: in an offense that was, let's face it, they threw
• 2:13:06
  Speaker 5: the ball like six hundred times. Like the numbers are
• 2:13:08
  Speaker 5: a little bit inflated, the productions a little bit. There's
• 2:13:10
  Speaker 5: a lot of opportunity there. But I think he has
• 2:13:13
  Speaker 5: the chance to be better than the guys they have. Yeah,
• 2:13:15
  Speaker 5: and I think his skill set is higher than what
• 2:13:18
  Speaker 5: they have. And I think that's a really good way
• 2:13:20
  Speaker 5: of putting it. Because now, if they can't go out
• 2:13:22
  Speaker 5: and I know we keep on saying if if, but
• 2:13:25
  Speaker 5: if they can go out and make a Brandon Nayuk trade,
• 2:13:27
  Speaker 5: or they can go out and get a T. Higgins
• 2:13:29
  Speaker 5: or something like that, then you have a guy that
• 2:13:31
  Speaker 5: is a true number two receiver. I'm with Paul in this.
• 2:13:34
  Speaker 5: I don't I don't know if any of their guys
• 2:13:36
  Speaker 5: are actually number two receivers on a good team. Like
• 2:13:39
  Speaker 5: the Eagles have Aj Brown and DeVante Smith. The Patriots
• 2:13:43
  Speaker 5: don't have anybody on the same planet of either one
• 2:13:45
  Speaker 5: of those guys. On their eyes, you could make an
• 2:13:47
  Speaker 5: argument that DeVante Smith is a number one on another team, right,
• 2:13:50
  Speaker 5: and people kind of look at him and say, well,
• 2:13:52
  Speaker 5: he's really a number two. Well that's because A. J.
• 2:13:53
  Speaker 5: Brown is really good.
• 2:13:55
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and that's why they tried to pay Calvin Ridley
• 2:13:57
  Speaker 7: is because Calvin Ridley is what A in s sort
• 2:14:01
  Speaker 7: of closer to that tier.
• 2:14:02
  Speaker 4: Well, speaking of Calvin Ridley, Emery writes in do you
• 2:14:05
  Speaker 4: think the Patriots would have still taken poke if they
• 2:14:08
  Speaker 4: pulled off the Ridley signing?
• 2:14:10
  Speaker 5: That's a great question.
• 2:14:12
  Speaker 8: I'd say probably not. I just think it's I think
• 2:14:14
  Speaker 8: it's a volume question at a certain point at the
• 2:14:16
  Speaker 8: receiver position. I mean, I can get on board with,
• 2:14:20
  Speaker 8: you know, my kind of traits view of the receiver
• 2:14:22
  Speaker 8: position of you know, trying to add a little bit
• 2:14:24
  Speaker 8: of size. I mean, I think you've got some good speed,
• 2:14:26
  Speaker 8: You've got some good toughness. You know, we've got some
• 2:14:28
  Speaker 8: quickness and pop. I still think they need, you know,
• 2:14:31
  Speaker 8: a little bit of size. I mean, and again it all,
• 2:14:33
  Speaker 8: you know, it gets complicated as you talk about the
• 2:14:35
  Speaker 8: speed factor.
• 2:14:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean just I'm a little I'm a little surprised.
• 2:14:39
  Speaker 5: I mean, I don't think there's been a lot because
• 2:14:40
  Speaker 5: there's a lot of people on that I'm in my
• 2:14:42
  Speaker 5: timeline that are liking to pick too. Ben Sennence, I'm
• 2:14:46
  Speaker 5: a little surprised that there's been as much as many
• 2:14:48
  Speaker 5: people not high on it though. And I just wondered,
• 2:14:52
  Speaker 5: you know, was everybody expecting they had to take a
• 2:14:55
  Speaker 5: quarterback in the first round, right? We all kind of
• 2:14:58
  Speaker 5: felt like that there was it's a chance to get
• 2:15:00
  Speaker 5: number one receivers in the first round, and they all
• 2:15:02
  Speaker 5: went in the top ten. Like if you're going to
• 2:15:06
  Speaker 5: take Drake May, you can't get Elik Neighbors or Marvin Harrison.
• 2:15:09
  Speaker 10: Is everyone mostly upset because a d was there and
• 2:15:12
  Speaker 10: they're like, what are you doing? Like that's what we need?
• 2:15:15
  Speaker 5: No, but I don't think I mean, maybe he'll be
• 2:15:18
  Speaker 5: a number one receiver. I don't think he'll be a
• 2:15:20
  Speaker 5: number one receiver either, but he does have more skills.
• 2:15:24
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I think, Look, I Paul, you said it earlier.
• 2:15:27
  Speaker 7: If all this stuff that caused ad Mitchell to slide
• 2:15:30
  Speaker 7: this far ends up being bs and he ends up
• 2:15:33
  Speaker 7: being a gray pro, then we should sit here and criticize.
• 2:15:35
  Speaker 5: You were talking about Dewan Jones. Yeah, I don't really.
• 2:15:38
  Speaker 5: I didn't hear anything bad out of Dewan Jones last
• 2:15:40
  Speaker 5: year some of the guys here, but maybe no, no, no,
• 2:15:42
  Speaker 5: I know that. Yeah, but I didn't hear it on
• 2:15:45
  Speaker 5: and on the team that he's on. Like what the
• 2:15:47
  Speaker 5: guys are here are saying? I don't really care he's
• 2:15:49
  Speaker 5: not here.
• 2:15:50
  Speaker 7: Yeah, do you know what I mean?
• 2:15:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, Darryl's in Georgia. Hey Darryl.
• 2:15:56
  Speaker 3: Hey, guys, love the show.
• 2:15:58
  Speaker 32: Thanks hired to beat some question this draft, nobody's really
• 2:16:03
  Speaker 32: talking about defense. I was wondering if there's a need
• 2:16:06
  Speaker 32: at linebacker or if there's a need a bigger need
• 2:16:09
  Speaker 32: on defense anywhere.
• 2:16:11
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 2:16:11
  Speaker 8: I actually think, well defense is mind so shut up
• 2:16:15
  Speaker 8: and this is your no. I mean, I think, for
• 2:16:19
  Speaker 8: better or worse, I think they're probably pretty set at
• 2:16:21
  Speaker 8: the linebacker, at least off the ball. I mean, I
• 2:16:23
  Speaker 8: think edge, however you want to delineate the edge and
• 2:16:26
  Speaker 8: outside linebacker and end and all that kind of stuff.
• 2:16:28
  Speaker 8: But I think right now, really the that they're pretty happy,
• 2:16:32
  Speaker 8: you know with what they have is in terms of
• 2:16:33
  Speaker 8: the veterans, they've got Bentley and Tavai, who I think
• 2:16:36
  Speaker 8: they really like, and you know, they added Taki Taki.
• 2:16:38
  Speaker 8: They've got ray Kwan McMillan, who you know has been
• 2:16:41
  Speaker 8: here for like five years and he's played like four games.
• 2:16:43
  Speaker 8: So I you know, I'm not defending it and saying
• 2:16:45
  Speaker 8: that they're all set, but I think that they off
• 2:16:47
  Speaker 8: the ball middle of the field kind of linebackers. They
• 2:16:49
  Speaker 8: like what they have. They want big, physical guys and
• 2:16:51
  Speaker 8: that's what they have. I would look more to the edge.
• 2:16:54
  Speaker 8: You know, we've talked about Judon where he's going to
• 2:16:56
  Speaker 8: be cornerback, cornerback, depth, free safety, you know, pure free
• 2:17:01
  Speaker 8: safety that could you know, And I think that that's
• 2:17:03
  Speaker 8: a role that you know, they still could maybe find
• 2:17:05
  Speaker 8: later in the draft a little bit where you know,
• 2:17:07
  Speaker 8: it's like the Deron Harmon what was he a fourth
• 2:17:09
  Speaker 8: round pick? Got a rucker or something like that. You know,
• 2:17:11
  Speaker 8: it's just he doesn't have to play every down and
• 2:17:13
  Speaker 8: he doesn't really need to be this, you know, elite
• 2:17:15
  Speaker 8: tackler or anything like. You just you need a guy
• 2:17:17
  Speaker 8: who can run and has some range, you know, in
• 2:17:19
  Speaker 8: the middle of the field.
• 2:17:19
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that linebackers, out of any position on
• 2:17:23
  Speaker 7: their roster I would say that linebacker is the one
• 2:17:26
  Speaker 7: that they have the most depth in, like are the
• 2:17:29
  Speaker 7: most sure about with Bentley and Tavia. And then you
• 2:17:33
  Speaker 7: also have to factor in how much they play Peppers
• 2:17:35
  Speaker 7: and Kyle Duggar at the second level of the defense also,
• 2:17:37
  Speaker 7: so those guys are almost like extra linebackers too. So
• 2:17:41
  Speaker 7: they got plenty of guys in the defense that can
• 2:17:43
  Speaker 7: play in the middle of the field. It's it's maybe
• 2:17:45
  Speaker 7: the deep part of the field that's yeah.
• 2:17:47
  Speaker 8: I mean, one more thing I would add too is
• 2:17:49
  Speaker 8: that I think, you know, for all the kind of
• 2:17:50
  Speaker 8: talk that I've done about the concern on the edge,
• 2:17:53
  Speaker 8: is that I think that they very much value guys
• 2:17:56
  Speaker 8: like to buy like McMillan, and I think like Taki,
• 2:17:58
  Speaker 8: Taki's gonna be that that can shift out to the
• 2:18:01
  Speaker 8: edge a little bit early downs, you know that kind
• 2:18:03
  Speaker 8: of stuff. So as thin as the depth chart looks
• 2:18:05
  Speaker 8: to me right now as I stare at it, with
• 2:18:07
  Speaker 8: with Judean, Uce and Jennings, is really kind of the
• 2:18:09
  Speaker 8: only three pure outside linebackers that that you might have.
• 2:18:13
  Speaker 8: I think those other guys there's enough crossover that they
• 2:18:15
  Speaker 8: probably view it as a little bit more deep than
• 2:18:17
  Speaker 8: we might.
• 2:18:18
  Speaker 4: And don't forget my back of the envelope guys that
• 2:18:20
  Speaker 4: they could take later.
• 2:18:21
  Speaker 8: Who could that be?
• 2:18:22
  Speaker 4: Uh So you got Eric Watts out of Yukon, you know,
• 2:18:26
  Speaker 4: I talked to him. Yeah, and then steel Chambers. Don't
• 2:18:29
  Speaker 4: forget steel Chambers.
• 2:18:31
  Speaker 7: The league is going to forget about Stee Chambers, Okay?
• 2:18:33
  Speaker 4: And Michael Barrett out of Michigan.
• 2:18:36
  Speaker 8: I don't know that one fast line, fast line, see that?
• 2:18:39
  Speaker 8: And that I feel like we've gotten off that a
• 2:18:41
  Speaker 8: little bit. We were doing some look backs at, you know,
• 2:18:44
  Speaker 8: players that we wanted Devin Lloyd, you know, in the
• 2:18:46
  Speaker 8: last couple of years, I think before we've all kind
• 2:18:49
  Speaker 8: of swallowed the medicine of just like they don't want that.
• 2:18:52
  Speaker 8: They want big physical linebackers.
• 2:18:54
  Speaker 7: Daniel just Cras Actually this is one thing though he's
• 2:18:57
  Speaker 7: always just googled the big physical lineback thing. I've kind
• 2:19:01
  Speaker 7: of come around to what their philosophy is, which is,
• 2:19:04
  Speaker 7: we could draft a two hundred and twenty five pound linebacker,
• 2:19:08
  Speaker 7: or we could draft a two hundred and fifteen pounds
• 2:19:09
  Speaker 7: safety that plays like a two hundred and twenty five
• 2:19:11
  Speaker 7: pound linebacker but covers better than that linebacker. Like, would
• 2:19:15
  Speaker 7: you rather have Kyle Dugger or one of those like
• 2:19:19
  Speaker 7: Na Kobe Dean type of linebackers, and they just feel
• 2:19:22
  Speaker 7: like Kyle Duggar is a more versatile, more valuable piece.
• 2:19:25
  Speaker 5: Now does it have to be Na Kobe Dean or
• 2:19:26
  Speaker 5: can it be right?
• 2:19:29
  Speaker 7: You know, we just were mentioning other big boar guys
• 2:19:32
  Speaker 7: and I'm sure we both had.
• 2:19:34
  Speaker 5: Kobe Dean is one of those small, athletic, undersized linebackers
• 2:19:37
  Speaker 5: who has hurt a lot and it's been hurt a lot, yeah,
• 2:19:40
  Speaker 5: and done nothing as like, But there's a lot of
• 2:19:44
  Speaker 5: those athletic linebackers that have been great in the pro
• 2:19:48
  Speaker 5: I just.
• 2:19:48
  Speaker 7: I can see where they're coming from with Okay, on
• 2:19:51
  Speaker 7: third down, Yeah, we could have this great cover linebacker
• 2:19:55
  Speaker 7: or you could just play dime and get six dvs
• 2:19:57
  Speaker 7: on the field, and it really isn't going to make
• 2:19:59
  Speaker 7: a difference.
• 2:20:00
  Speaker 8: Plus, like, it's a value thing because I think, you know, Paul,
• 2:20:02
  Speaker 8: a lot of the guys like that you named our
• 2:20:03
  Speaker 8: first round picks, you know, and like those guys that
• 2:20:05
  Speaker 8: are big and can run like It's just there's a
• 2:20:07
  Speaker 8: lot more strong safety types like the Marty mop Who's.
• 2:20:10
  Speaker 7: Of the world.
• 2:20:11
  Speaker 8: You know, there are always those guys that were it
• 2:20:14
  Speaker 8: just seems like it's a pretty high you know, those
• 2:20:15
  Speaker 8: value picks that they kind of like, you know, this
• 2:20:18
  Speaker 8: is this pisition is a little bit devalued.
• 2:20:20
  Speaker 5: Patrick Paul.
• 2:20:22
  Speaker 7: At some point wanted these next tier tackles like Patrick Paul, Kingsley,
• 2:20:27
  Speaker 7: Sue Mattilla, Blake Fisher, like these guys are going to
• 2:20:30
  Speaker 7: start to go at some point. Here there's been a
• 2:20:32
  Speaker 7: little lower.
• 2:20:32
  Speaker 8: Are we on the we are on the ticker? That's
• 2:20:34
  Speaker 8: always that always gives me a light at the end
• 2:20:36
  Speaker 8: of the tunnel here. So it's a I don't know,
• 2:20:38
  Speaker 8: probably about ten ten picks.
• 2:20:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, oh, I was gonna say the ticker.
• 2:20:43
  Speaker 8: The ticker on the ball, you know, like, well, this
• 2:20:44
  Speaker 8: is how I was. Yeah, you're on the back when
• 2:20:46
  Speaker 8: you're a draft fan, and I was I was actually
• 2:20:48
  Speaker 8: laughing with the guys upstairs because watching the old draft.
• 2:20:51
  Speaker 8: I mean I literally remember sitting in front of you know,
• 2:20:54
  Speaker 8: and this is like early days of the internet and stuff,
• 2:20:56
  Speaker 8: no Wi Fi yet, everything was hard, you know, And
• 2:20:58
  Speaker 8: I have my computer back in the off and I'm
• 2:21:00
  Speaker 8: watching the draft and on a Saturday, enjoying my jambalaya
• 2:21:03
  Speaker 8: that I've been cooking and like, wouldn't it be great
• 2:21:05
  Speaker 8: if I could sit in front of my TV with
• 2:21:07
  Speaker 8: like my laptop with like a connected to the internet,
• 2:21:10
  Speaker 8: and I could be on the Internet while I was
• 2:21:11
  Speaker 8: watching the draft, Like I remember having that thought, and
• 2:21:14
  Speaker 8: this just shows how your visionary game. I don't even
• 2:21:17
  Speaker 8: have to plug it in. I'm like thinking about it.
• 2:21:19
  Speaker 8: Can I get a super long cable and like plug
• 2:21:20
  Speaker 8: it into the office and run it down the hall.
• 2:21:22
  Speaker 4: And Colleen's in Houston.
• 2:21:25
  Speaker 22: Hey, Colleen, Hey, guys, uh I hear if that Patrick
• 2:21:31
  Speaker 22: Hall was just taken to say, yeah, wouldn't like I
• 2:21:37
  Speaker 22: wanted to be there Kingsley or Patrick Paul Net But
• 2:21:41
  Speaker 22: still there.
• 2:21:42
  Speaker 5: Is still available.
• 2:21:43
  Speaker 8: Absolutely there's two kings to which is kind of weird.
• 2:21:47
  Speaker 22: Don't you want to trade up for him? Or I
• 2:21:49
  Speaker 22: don't know because I were in their own tier, which
• 2:21:53
  Speaker 22: is above the rest, like the guy like sure stuff
• 2:21:58
  Speaker 22: like I want I want?
• 2:22:00
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I think that if they come out of this,
• 2:22:04
  Speaker 7: and it's a great point, Colleen, you know, if they
• 2:22:06
  Speaker 7: come out of this first two days with Drake May,
• 2:22:09
  Speaker 7: Jalen Polk and Kingsley Sue Matia, that's that's a good draft.
• 2:22:13
  Speaker 7: Like that's a good start to take it to the
• 2:22:15
  Speaker 7: top of the draft. I mean, maybe I would have
• 2:22:16
  Speaker 7: had the order on day two flip flopped, but the
• 2:22:21
  Speaker 7: receivers were where the run was happening. You know, you
• 2:22:23
  Speaker 7: have Keon Coleman, Lad McConkie, Xavier Leaguete. At the end
• 2:22:26
  Speaker 7: of the first round Ricky Piersoll, was it like four
• 2:22:29
  Speaker 7: receivers in a row, right, if you bridged a two
• 2:22:31
  Speaker 7: days together.
• 2:22:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's worthy. Then Pierre Saul and then leget right.
• 2:22:37
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and then this today was Keon Coleman and Lad
• 2:22:39
  Speaker 7: McConkie with the first two picks, so they had to
• 2:22:42
  Speaker 7: take their guy at receiver. And I think at all
• 2:22:45
  Speaker 7: the mock drafts that I saw, Drake May, Kingsley, Sue Matia,
• 2:22:51
  Speaker 7: Jalen Polk, like, there's gotta be like twenty five percent
• 2:22:54
  Speaker 7: of mock drafts, they probably had that top three. I
• 2:22:56
  Speaker 7: think people should be happy with that. That hall if
• 2:22:59
  Speaker 7: that's what it ends being.
• 2:23:00
  Speaker 4: Sure, Let's go to Mike in Puerto Rico. What's up, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike.
• 2:23:10
  Speaker 3: Are you hearing me?
• 2:23:11
  Speaker 4: Yay? You were here? Everybody doing good?
• 2:23:14
  Speaker 11: We'll get good.
• 2:23:16
  Speaker 3: Sorry, if you're here I'm outside doing.
• 2:23:18
  Speaker 4: Laps, so doing the lapse. That's a flex.
• 2:23:23
  Speaker 8: It is a little bit what are you swimming or same?
• 2:23:25
  Speaker 7: Same?
• 2:23:27
  Speaker 3: No, just walking, honest honestly getting some of this interge out.
• 2:23:32
  Speaker 3: I was just telling Morrell that I reached my twenty
• 2:23:36
  Speaker 3: fifth year anniversary serving in the Army this week.
• 2:23:39
  Speaker 4: Oh wow, congratulations and thank you for your service and happy.
• 2:23:44
  Speaker 3: For your support.
• 2:23:44
  Speaker 30: Yeah.
• 2:23:46
  Speaker 3: And as I was telling him, I also got orders
• 2:23:50
  Speaker 3: and I am effectively going to be promoted to Master
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  Speaker 15: First.
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  Speaker 4: Wow, that's great.
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  Speaker 7: Congratulations, that's a bad excellent.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I gotta say, guys, the conference this year
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  Speaker 3: has been absolutely phenomenal. Tomorrow's my birthday. I honestly couldn't
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  Speaker 3: have wished for anything better than Drake May a receiver
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  Speaker 3: who I'm not that familiar with, but you guys seem
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  Speaker 3: to be very high on him, and just the freedom
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  Speaker 3: that you guys seem to have this year, the way
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  Speaker 3: that you're structuring the coverage, I mean, it is literally
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  Speaker 3: the light at it is the light at the beginning
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  Speaker 4: Hopefully all right, Well, thanks Mike, and congratulations again. Take
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  Speaker 8: Birthday Master Sergeant.
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  Speaker 5: of thought that might be.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I I you know, when you saw when I
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  Speaker 5: But I'm glad Mike is hearing the optimism on Polk
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  Speaker 5: it's not one of the higher regarded receivers, and people
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  Speaker 5: are going to be Underwhelm's buddy is a really good player.
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  Speaker 5: So like that's how someone described it to me. And
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  Speaker 7: No I and you know Shaker said it about his
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  Speaker 7: of the traits that Polk brings to the table, maybe
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  Speaker 7: a little bit more than people on the outside, myself
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  Speaker 7: included at times where all I'm clamoring for is speed
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  Speaker 7: that the league looks at as more carrying trades for
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I look just at my notes. January fourteenth was
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  Speaker 4: lots of things going on.
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  Speaker 10: Uh.
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  Speaker 4: The Patriots are about oh ten nine ten picks away.
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  Speaker 4: Marshawn Neeland from Western Michigan went to the Cowboys. Chris
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  Speaker 7: This is always interesting with Green Bay because I feel
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  Speaker 7: So however they pick here, I think would be a
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  Speaker 7: guy that could be a sixty eight target if the Patriots.
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  Speaker 8: Can I bring up something real quick back to Drake
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  Speaker 8: May just for a little bit real Cualtimore is it?
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  Speaker 8: Did it strike? He is a little weird that he's
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  Speaker 8: kind of like, I've never been out of North Carolina.
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  Speaker 8: Like I thought that was a little bit.
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  Speaker 5: Like she wanted to ask me, well, he has to
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  Speaker 5: play football. I think he's talking about spending any.
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  Speaker 13: Time living anywhere else.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean neither.
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  Speaker 10: Had Cole Strange. He'd never been anywhere up here in.
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  Speaker 8: The North outside of but I mean being north is
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  Speaker 8: one thing, but like not being anywhere like and I
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  Speaker 8: said this last time, I'm pretty sure that he played
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  Speaker 8: BC at he did. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, no, I
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  Speaker 8: mean I'm sure he's been out of the state, but
• 2:36:12
  Speaker 8: like he's never lived anywhere.
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  Speaker 5: Like Tomarra's point, I don't. I'm not sure that cold
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  Speaker 5: stranger coul Strange never.
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  Speaker 8: Nothing, that's just strange.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, oh yeah, good good.
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  Speaker 10: Speaking of Bay, can we see the interview because I
• 2:36:28
  Speaker 10: didn't get to.
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  Speaker 13: See the interview.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, why don't we do that. That's on the phone.
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  Speaker 10: I didn't get to see the interview and see what
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  Speaker 10: you guys are.
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  Speaker 7: We're going to be up here before do we have.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, I don't think that we're going to be picking
• 2:36:44
  Speaker 5: what do we have?
• 2:36:45
  Speaker 4: Like to go off plenty of time.
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  Speaker 10: We have ten pis.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, it's at least a half an hour. I thought
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  Speaker 8: we had some good questions though, I mean, I think
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  Speaker 8: it's it's I mean, we purposely, like fred to to
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  Speaker 8: what you said was no, I'm not going to say,
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  Speaker 8: but I'm going to say, you know, we had heard
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  Speaker 8: all the interviews. We didn't we hadn't heard yours, but
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  Speaker 8: you know, we tried to make an effort to not
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  Speaker 8: ask him. You know what he got asked at the
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  Speaker 8: press conference last night and then this morning at the
• 2:37:10
  Speaker 8: press conference and then the call, and you know, so
• 2:37:12
  Speaker 8: Evan asked him some football questions, Paul, awesome, you know
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  Speaker 8: a little bit. I thought in depth more the family
• 2:37:18
  Speaker 8: questions of you know, his dad playing quarterback and again
• 2:37:21
  Speaker 8: just a special relationship clearly between him and his bros.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: I also just want to know, like how they decided
• 2:37:28
  Speaker 9: who was going to come here, because you would think like, oh,
• 2:37:29
  Speaker 9: your parents wouldn't want to come, but no, it's all
• 2:37:32
  Speaker 9: of his siblings.
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  Speaker 10: So I thought that was.
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  Speaker 8: Pretty his brother Japan.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, it's usually it's like mom and dad. Yeah, but
• 2:37:38
  Speaker 10: this time it was.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe here they just didn't come to the stadium or
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  Speaker 4: I don't know, because they all came on the plane
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  Speaker 4: with him, right, Yeah, they all come, they didn't meet
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  Speaker 4: him here.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I just, I mean, I think, I mean,
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  Speaker 8: I don't love long plane travel, but like the thought
• 2:37:52
  Speaker 8: of flying from Japan to I mean, I guess Detroit.
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  Speaker 8: Maybe went to North Carolina first, but Japan to Detroit
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  Speaker 8: to boss, you know, for your Like, I just I
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  Speaker 8: know what a pain in the ass that is, and
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  Speaker 8: I think it's just it. It really speaks to how
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  Speaker 8: close there. What was the line he had, He's like,
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  Speaker 8: these are my people and if you're getting me, you're
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  Speaker 8: getting them too, So you know, I just I really
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  Speaker 8: like that.
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  Speaker 7: Just for the record, Drake May never played at Boston College.
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  Speaker 5: He didn't. No, I don't know what I'm misremembering.
• 2:38:17
  Speaker 7: Now, never played BC period.
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  Speaker 9: Oh he must he must have got there after the restructuring,
• 2:38:24
  Speaker 9: because they did restructure.
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  Speaker 5: It was Sam Howell. Yeah, that I'm thinking of.
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  Speaker 7: Who is his best friend, by the.
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  Speaker 5: Way, watching watching North Carolina play at BC. It was
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  Speaker 5: Sam Howell.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, no, he never screwed up.
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  Speaker 5: See there's another thing I just said. Actually, you could
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  Speaker 9: That's what I'm Actually this tracks because when I was
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  Speaker 9: talking to him today before our interviews started, we were
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  Speaker 9: talking about Virginia Tech. Of course, he was like, Virginia
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  Speaker 9: Tech is the loudest place that I've ever been in.
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  Speaker 9: He's like, but I didn't get to play there. I
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  Speaker 9: only got to watch Sam Howe do it, and I
• 2:38:52
  Speaker 9: was on the South sidelines. So those are two schools
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  Speaker 9: that he didn't get to play at.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, him and Sam Howell have a pretty tight relationship,
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  Speaker 7: and Sam Howell was kind of one of his, you know,
• 2:39:02
  Speaker 7: one of his mentors. I mean, you know they overlapped
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  Speaker 7: North Carolina.
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  Speaker 8: I feel like, same how I guess, same how Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: So Sam Howell went to the NFL and then Drake
• 2:39:15
  Speaker 7: May took over the next year as the quarterback at
• 2:39:17
  Speaker 7: North Carolina. So he was there for at least a
• 2:39:19
  Speaker 7: full year two years.
• 2:39:20
  Speaker 8: Yeah, so he's like a sophomore or something when he graduated.
• 2:39:23
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 2:39:23
  Speaker 4: Uh, the Texans took tackle Blake Fisher out of the
• 2:39:28
  Speaker 4: other one.
• 2:39:29
  Speaker 7: So Sue Matilla. It's interesting because he's coming. Daniel Jeremiah
• 2:39:34
  Speaker 7: came out with his final top one fifty right before
• 2:39:36
  Speaker 7: the draft. I don't know, but he had he had
• 2:39:40
  Speaker 7: Sue Mattilla much much lower than the consensus. It had
• 2:39:44
  Speaker 7: him as like the one hundred and twentieth player in
• 2:39:46
  Speaker 7: the draft, and everybody was like, whoa like this is?
• 2:39:49
  Speaker 7: You know, it was one of those that stood out, Jeremiah.
• 2:39:52
  Speaker 7: Daniel Jeremiah did forty. Yeah, and here we go he's
• 2:39:55
  Speaker 7: a picked sixty and you know, tackles Patrick Paul, Blake Fisher.
• 2:40:00
  Speaker 7: I would say both those guys. The consensus had Kingsley
• 2:40:03
  Speaker 7: ahead of both of those guys on the consensus board,
• 2:40:05
  Speaker 7: so obviously they're The league looks at Kingsley suemat a
• 2:40:09
  Speaker 7: little bit different than we do.
• 2:40:11
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean the way I looked at him at
• 2:40:12
  Speaker 8: the combine, he's a big, scary dude, like he was
• 2:40:15
  Speaker 8: just one of those guys, like the offensive line mom
• 2:40:17
  Speaker 8: when they come out and they're like, I would like
• 2:40:18
  Speaker 8: that guy blocking for me. He looks very mean.
• 2:40:20
  Speaker 5: Please and thanks, thank you. Another comp Phil Perry just
• 2:40:24
  Speaker 5: tweeted out from a league source for Jalen Polk Tyler Boyd. Yeah,
• 2:40:29
  Speaker 5: and I think that's another one. I mean, it's another
• 2:40:32
  Speaker 5: really good and I'm gonna say number two again, not
• 2:40:37
  Speaker 5: hoping that people think that that's a negative. Like he's
• 2:40:40
  Speaker 5: a really good receiver for a long time. Yeah, Tyler
• 2:40:43
  Speaker 5: Boyd a really good career. I'd take that, take that
• 2:40:46
  Speaker 5: and run now.
• 2:40:47
  Speaker 8: It's I mean, I'm I mean, I look, anytime they
• 2:40:50
  Speaker 8: draft the receiver a quarterback high like that gets me
• 2:40:52
  Speaker 8: excited just to get out to OTAs and you know,
• 2:40:55
  Speaker 8: just I mean, I know you can't really take anything
• 2:40:56
  Speaker 8: from it, but you can superficially and you can get
• 2:41:00
  Speaker 8: to look at these guys and those those are the
• 2:41:01
  Speaker 8: easiest positions to watch. They're the most fun to watch,
• 2:41:04
  Speaker 8: certainly in OTA's and that stuff where they're not really
• 2:41:06
  Speaker 8: doing anything too serious. He can't really do anything on
• 2:41:08
  Speaker 8: defense or along the lines. But you know, right already
• 2:41:11
  Speaker 8: you got two guys in the next few weeks, over
• 2:41:13
  Speaker 8: the next month that we'll get to get a chance
• 2:41:15
  Speaker 8: to check out and see between him and Drake Many
• 2:41:17
  Speaker 8: just to start.
• 2:41:18
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, just say that. I feel like the contested
• 2:41:22
  Speaker 7: catch thing is throwing people off with Jalen Polk. He's
• 2:41:27
  Speaker 7: not a jump ball receiver, right, He's a He's a
• 2:41:29
  Speaker 7: receiver that runs through the middle of the field a lot,
• 2:41:32
  Speaker 7: so he's in traffic a lot and he catches the ball.
• 2:41:35
  Speaker 7: He's got really strong hands. That doesn't mean he's a
• 2:41:37
  Speaker 7: jump ball like Nikhil Harry, you know, Devonte Parker type
• 2:41:40
  Speaker 7: of receiver. He just has really good hands like that.
• 2:41:43
  Speaker 7: Those are two different things, you know. It's it's very different.
• 2:41:46
  Speaker 7: I think a Cold Bishop safety right from Utah. Yeah,
• 2:41:50
  Speaker 7: his so, his his idol is Rodney Harrison models his
• 2:41:54
  Speaker 7: game after Rodney Harrison grew up a big time Patriots faul.
• 2:41:57
  Speaker 5: He's not much of a future for him because out
• 2:41:59
  Speaker 5: of the league, right, Buffalo just took him. So it's
• 2:42:03
  Speaker 5: probably going to be Cold Bishop and Taylor Rapp instead
• 2:42:06
  Speaker 5: of those are similar players, that tandem that you knew
• 2:42:08
  Speaker 5: for years with Micah Hyde and Jordan Poyer who are
• 2:42:11
  Speaker 5: both gone. So there's the passing of the torch in Buffalo.
• 2:42:15
  Speaker 4: Rogers in Connecticut. What's up Roger Kentucky. I'm sorry, Kentucky, right,
• 2:42:23
  Speaker 4: I don't know whut because.
• 2:42:25
  Speaker 5: We're just too tired.
• 2:42:28
  Speaker 11: Not yet.
• 2:42:28
  Speaker 4: Sorry, Roger, that's.
• 2:42:31
  Speaker 15: All right, Sorry, I understand how it is.
• 2:42:33
  Speaker 7: Everybody doing okay, pretty good.
• 2:42:36
  Speaker 23: Hey, I just wanted to say that I am super
• 2:42:38
  Speaker 23: stoked for the draft and the quarterback and the receiver
• 2:42:42
  Speaker 23: that we've taken. But I got finessed into buying a
• 2:42:45
  Speaker 23: Mac Jones shirt before his first game, so I'm gonna
• 2:42:51
  Speaker 23: hold off on buying any Drake May merchandise.
• 2:42:56
  Speaker 9: I was going to say, I saw a lot of
• 2:42:57
  Speaker 9: people at the draft party who used some duct tape
• 2:43:00
  Speaker 9: and put the tape over Jones and just put men, you.
• 2:43:03
  Speaker 4: Get the right number. He's going to be ten. So
• 2:43:06
  Speaker 4: maybe you can unstitch. If there's a talented seamstress in
• 2:43:11
  Speaker 4: your family, maybe you can unstitch that name plate and
• 2:43:14
  Speaker 4: put a new one on.
• 2:43:15
  Speaker 15: Yeah, it's a it's a it's a hoodie.
• 2:43:18
  Speaker 4: Oh Jones hoodie. Okay, you really got suckered.
• 2:43:24
  Speaker 23: But I just wanted to say I appreciate y'all in
• 2:43:27
  Speaker 23: the coverage and uh that y'all given over the draft
• 2:43:30
  Speaker 23: and are.
• 2:43:31
  Speaker 15: Going to continue doing.
• 2:43:32
  Speaker 23: I appreciate it. I listened to you all while the work,
• 2:43:35
  Speaker 23: and I'm super stoked for this year.
• 2:43:37
  Speaker 4: We appreciate you.
• 2:43:38
  Speaker 7: Thank you, Roger, appreciate I was texting with my dad
• 2:43:43
  Speaker 7: last night after they took Drake May, and he was like,
• 2:43:47
  Speaker 7: is this kid better than Mac? Right? Like that the
• 2:43:49
  Speaker 7: first thing out of his mouth. And I was like,
• 2:43:52
  Speaker 7: you know, I don't know. I don't know how how
• 2:43:56
  Speaker 7: good he's going to be yet. I don't want to
• 2:43:57
  Speaker 7: put any expectations on Drake May, but I think he's
• 2:44:00
  Speaker 7: going to be a lot more exciting than Mac Jones
• 2:44:02
  Speaker 7: for fans like my dad, who wants them to win.
• 2:44:05
  Speaker 7: Don't get me wrong, but he also just wants to
• 2:44:07
  Speaker 7: be entertained from one to four on Sundays, and he's
• 2:44:10
  Speaker 7: gonna I think Drake May is going to have the
• 2:44:11
  Speaker 7: highlight plays that Mac Johnson never.
• 2:44:13
  Speaker 4: I'll have a take on that. But let's first go to, uh,
• 2:44:17
  Speaker 4: the interview that we did here in the studio with
• 2:44:20
  Speaker 4: Drake May. It's pretty cool.
• 2:44:26
  Speaker 5: We'll try to redesign it a little bit.
• 2:44:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, we'll try to keep this quick because I
• 2:44:32
  Speaker 4: know you're like about it's crazy, but you can it's
• 2:44:36
  Speaker 4: a safe place. So I just just to start it off,
• 2:44:40
  Speaker 4: like I want to try to ask questions that you
• 2:44:43
  Speaker 4: haven't already been asked because you've probably answered the same
• 2:44:46
  Speaker 4: questions over and over again, but.
• 2:44:47
  Speaker 7: Appreciate that.
• 2:44:49
  Speaker 5: Excited Well, welcome you to New England.
• 2:44:58
  Speaker 4: You know what, we've never had a rookie come in
• 2:45:02
  Speaker 4: and actually see his locker. Yeah, this is the first
• 2:45:04
  Speaker 4: time we've done that type of content. I saw that
• 2:45:06
  Speaker 4: picture and you're looking at like, what were you thinking
• 2:45:09
  Speaker 4: about when you saw your locker in the Patriots locker?
• 2:45:12
  Speaker 11: Yeah, that's it's special. I think it's almost surreal. You
• 2:45:14
  Speaker 11: always dream about, you know, opening up your locker and
• 2:45:16
  Speaker 11: being the same locker room and some of the greats
• 2:45:18
  Speaker 11: here like Tom and and Gronk and those guys you
• 2:45:20
  Speaker 11: grow up, you know watch them playing and even Coach
• 2:45:22
  Speaker 11: Mayo the guy has done it. It's pretty cool, you know,
• 2:45:24
  Speaker 11: sitting there and experiencing that, and you see my locker
• 2:45:27
  Speaker 11: in there and seeing a jersey in it, did.
• 2:45:30
  Speaker 4: You picture like, Okay, my cleats are gonna be here, Yeah,
• 2:45:32
  Speaker 4: my family picture is gonna be here. Exactly visualize how
• 2:45:35
  Speaker 4: you're gonna be. Yeah, I'm a little OCD.
• 2:45:36
  Speaker 11: So I got a little organization in me for my
• 2:45:38
  Speaker 11: locker and keep things you know nice and you know,
• 2:45:40
  Speaker 11: in the same spot and if youbody touch something, I'll
• 2:45:42
  Speaker 11: be mad. But other than that, I think it's awesome.
• 2:45:45
  Speaker 11: I think, you know, such a big locker two. It
• 2:45:46
  Speaker 11: is pretty sweet. And that's like kind of your home,
• 2:45:49
  Speaker 11: Yeah exactly. Yeah, Yeah, new home, new city, you know,
• 2:45:51
  Speaker 11: everything new so kind of never been out of the
• 2:45:53
  Speaker 11: state in North Carolina.
• 2:45:55
  Speaker 8: So it's your first time in New England, Boston.
• 2:45:57
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I came for visit, butter than that first time
• 2:45:59
  Speaker 11: in Boston, the first time in England.
• 2:46:00
  Speaker 7: Listen, if you have any questions for us, especially with
• 2:46:03
  Speaker 7: yeah people, I got three bros out there we love Yeah,
• 2:46:07
  Speaker 7: let us know.
• 2:46:08
  Speaker 5: So I wanted to ask you a little bit about
• 2:46:09
  Speaker 5: the brothers because that's obviously such an athletic family and
• 2:46:13
  Speaker 5: your dad just what kind of impact was that having
• 2:46:17
  Speaker 5: those those guys, uh, you know, to look up to
• 2:46:19
  Speaker 5: and all the success that they had. I would imagine
• 2:46:22
  Speaker 5: it it made for a lot of competitive Yeah.
• 2:46:25
  Speaker 11: Nowadays we try not to you know, to do his
• 2:46:27
  Speaker 11: physical physical sports, you know, playing more like golf and
• 2:46:29
  Speaker 11: pick a ball, something that we don't rough up on
• 2:46:30
  Speaker 11: each other. But uh, definitely my dad playing quarterback in college,
• 2:46:34
  Speaker 11: he had a you know shorts, you know shorts, it's
• 2:46:36
  Speaker 11: done in Tampa Bay, you know, as a quarterback on
• 2:46:38
  Speaker 11: the practice squad, and he's been one year there and
• 2:46:40
  Speaker 11: played in Arena football. But just having a dad that
• 2:46:43
  Speaker 11: played the quarter played position, knows what it's like, knows
• 2:46:45
  Speaker 11: you know, how to be in my shoes is an
• 2:46:47
  Speaker 11: awesome experience just to lean on him.
• 2:46:49
  Speaker 5: Do you like the fact that you know, I saw
• 2:46:51
  Speaker 5: the video that they put together for you with with
• 2:46:53
  Speaker 5: your brothers. Yeah, you were, you were all ready to
• 2:46:56
  Speaker 5: get the fields and everything and then they yeah, I
• 2:46:59
  Speaker 5: was getting emotional. And do you think that helps you
• 2:47:01
  Speaker 5: at all? Like having sort of you know that that
• 2:47:03
  Speaker 5: tough level. Obviously they're in your corner and you know
• 2:47:05
  Speaker 5: that you have their support, but to know that you know,
• 2:47:08
  Speaker 5: when I screw up, they're gonna be there, Like, oh,
• 2:47:10
  Speaker 5: it's huge.
• 2:47:10
  Speaker 11: You know people that understand it, you know understand you
• 2:47:12
  Speaker 11: know the pressure that comes with it, but also understand hey,
• 2:47:14
  Speaker 11: you know, you know I've seen you make that there before.
• 2:47:16
  Speaker 11: You got to make that and that'll be hard on me.
• 2:47:18
  Speaker 5: My dad.
• 2:47:18
  Speaker 11: You know, every game is yell and they watch the
• 2:47:20
  Speaker 11: play clock from the stands. You know it's not even
• 2:47:22
  Speaker 11: I can't hear him, obviously, but you almost hear, you
• 2:47:24
  Speaker 11: know in the voices. Uh, he kind of He's done
• 2:47:26
  Speaker 11: a great job of letting me go once I got
• 2:47:28
  Speaker 11: into college and he coached me all the way up
• 2:47:29
  Speaker 11: through there and and seen me throw my whole life.
• 2:47:31
  Speaker 11: So he just kind of knows the best, knows the
• 2:47:33
  Speaker 11: best and when I'm throwing it the best and feeling
• 2:47:35
  Speaker 11: the best, so you know, have my brothers theirs. It's
• 2:47:38
  Speaker 11: awesome experience.
• 2:47:39
  Speaker 4: The question I had about your dad is what's the
• 2:47:40
  Speaker 4: best advice he ever gave you?
• 2:47:43
  Speaker 11: That's great. I think my dad every game is uh,
• 2:47:47
  Speaker 11: you move on the next play, you know, move on
• 2:47:49
  Speaker 11: to the next play. In life, memory yeah, short memory short.
• 2:47:51
  Speaker 5: That's all.
• 2:47:52
  Speaker 11: He always says. Good play, bad play, good play back
• 2:47:54
  Speaker 11: play in football and outside of football, you'll make it
• 2:47:57
  Speaker 11: and make a decision that you wish you have back,
• 2:47:58
  Speaker 11: you know in life, you know, eating cheesecake or something
• 2:48:01
  Speaker 11: that shouldn't it shouldn't have had so dessert, you know,
• 2:48:03
  Speaker 11: little things like that. You know, my dad has been
• 2:48:05
  Speaker 11: great having short term memory. It's hus in his position.
• 2:48:09
  Speaker 11: And I think the best thing is just uh, just
• 2:48:11
  Speaker 11: control things you control. He said that from day one.
• 2:48:13
  Speaker 11: You know, control things you control when I was in
• 2:48:14
  Speaker 11: a quarterback you know, Battle of North Carolina two years ago,
• 2:48:17
  Speaker 11: and now sitting here control control, and that's my work ethic,
• 2:48:20
  Speaker 11: just loving football and coming in here and ready to win.
• 2:48:23
  Speaker 8: Did your brothers play quarterback at all? Or he's the
• 2:48:24
  Speaker 8: only one?
• 2:48:25
  Speaker 11: Yeah, happened to you know, Luke played until high school,
• 2:48:28
  Speaker 11: you know, right before we got the high school through
• 2:48:30
  Speaker 11: eighth grade. Luke through it good. I'm older for Luke
• 2:48:32
  Speaker 11: the basketball player. He throws it good.
• 2:48:33
  Speaker 5: Now.
• 2:48:34
  Speaker 11: But uh, you know, I chose the right sport. You know,
• 2:48:35
  Speaker 11: they chose you know, awesome our own ways when our
• 2:48:38
  Speaker 11: different ways, and I happen to be, you know, the
• 2:48:39
  Speaker 11: last one that ended up playing quarterback.
• 2:48:41
  Speaker 7: A couple of football questions for you now, Okay, so
• 2:48:43
  Speaker 7: I want to take you back to the Clemson game
• 2:48:45
  Speaker 7: for a second, because the first throw that I made,
• 2:48:47
  Speaker 7: saw you make was the third three yard er a
• 2:48:50
  Speaker 7: JJ Jones soon there watching and I was turned on
• 2:48:54
  Speaker 7: the TV fortunately the Patriots. I knew it was probably
• 2:48:56
  Speaker 7: gonna be picked pretty high in the draft. Turn on
• 2:48:58
  Speaker 7: the TV, say let's let's see what the FU is
• 2:49:00
  Speaker 7: about it with Drake May And you made that pass,
• 2:49:02
  Speaker 7: you roll into your right off your back foot thirty
• 2:49:05
  Speaker 7: five yards in the air and I was like, okay, there,
• 2:49:07
  Speaker 7: so take me through that play though. You know, what
• 2:49:09
  Speaker 7: did you see the pressure pre snapper?
• 2:49:11
  Speaker 11: Is that something you kind of felt you kind of
• 2:49:13
  Speaker 11: you know, you always you're looking for field blitz. I
• 2:49:15
  Speaker 11: think brought that a lot looking for field bits and on.
• 2:49:18
  Speaker 11: We had a protection there, we had we had it
• 2:49:19
  Speaker 11: slid there and the tight end should have actually took
• 2:49:21
  Speaker 11: the widest guy. I think he tried to chip him
• 2:49:23
  Speaker 11: in the h he ended up missing him a little bit,
• 2:49:25
  Speaker 11: but he always managers the effort. You give an effort.
• 2:49:27
  Speaker 11: But yeah, we had a little little post climb concept,
• 2:49:30
  Speaker 11: you know, we called it, you know, caught it viper
• 2:49:32
  Speaker 11: so we called it. And just having a chance to
• 2:49:34
  Speaker 11: you see j J breaking free and just trying to
• 2:49:36
  Speaker 11: buy time. You know, some guys off the edges coming free.
• 2:49:38
  Speaker 11: I'm just having you know, the ability to buy time
• 2:49:41
  Speaker 11: and then throw off platform is something that I feel
• 2:49:43
  Speaker 11: like is uh in my skill set and just happy
• 2:49:45
  Speaker 11: I put it in the right spot.
• 2:49:46
  Speaker 7: Yeah. The other question I had for you in terms
• 2:49:49
  Speaker 7: of this offense with coach Van Pelt. One of the
• 2:49:51
  Speaker 7: reasons why we were all jazzed up about this is
• 2:49:53
  Speaker 7: because of the scheme fit between you and what they're
• 2:49:55
  Speaker 7: gonna do. I know you said he showed you some
• 2:49:57
  Speaker 7: Aaron Rodgers clips and yeah like that, but some of
• 2:50:00
  Speaker 7: the bootlegs and things they get you outside the pocket
• 2:50:03
  Speaker 7: that they're gonna run here. How excited are you.
• 2:50:05
  Speaker 5: To be in this? Yeah?
• 2:50:06
  Speaker 11: I'm really excited.
• 2:50:07
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 2:50:07
  Speaker 11: Coach n Felt. You see what he's done and he's
• 2:50:08
  Speaker 11: played the position is awesome too. You know, guy that
• 2:50:10
  Speaker 11: understands it, understands what's playing the position is like. And
• 2:50:14
  Speaker 11: you know, just just being in that room, which you
• 2:50:15
  Speaker 11: cob we learned from him. You know, the zones he
• 2:50:17
  Speaker 11: might set, the boot legs off it and you know,
• 2:50:19
  Speaker 11: play action, you know, throwing the ball. I think coach
• 2:50:21
  Speaker 11: you know, you know coach man Pelt likes to throw
• 2:50:23
  Speaker 11: it around and that's That's what I'm about. So just
• 2:50:24
  Speaker 11: winning games and do you know I can't help contribute
• 2:50:27
  Speaker 11: that in that room for this, you know, for this
• 2:50:29
  Speaker 11: team and from this.
• 2:50:30
  Speaker 7: Point on, what what's next for you in terms of
• 2:50:32
  Speaker 7: football training? I know Cly Christensen, you've worked with him
• 2:50:35
  Speaker 7: in the past, correct, and you know, just what do
• 2:50:37
  Speaker 7: you do now? I know, Coach Van Pelt and Mack
• 2:50:39
  Speaker 7: and do and all those guys are gonna work with
• 2:50:41
  Speaker 7: you too. But do you have private coaches? Do you
• 2:50:43
  Speaker 7: go out and you know, back to North Carolina was I.
• 2:50:45
  Speaker 11: Think probably just go back chap with coach Christ. He's
• 2:50:47
  Speaker 11: been awesome working with him. I think I'll definitely get
• 2:50:50
  Speaker 11: in the playbook. You'll learn some of the passing concepts.
• 2:50:53
  Speaker 11: Learn that it starts with protection formations, learning the simple
• 2:50:55
  Speaker 11: stuff first and get into it and just you know,
• 2:50:58
  Speaker 11: back to the basics, starting back from your foundation of
• 2:51:01
  Speaker 11: starting here and just you know, forget it, you know
• 2:51:03
  Speaker 11: all the other verbage and terminology. I knew you'll worry
• 2:51:06
  Speaker 11: about the patriots like learning a new age.
• 2:51:08
  Speaker 5: Exactly right.
• 2:51:09
  Speaker 4: I want to let you get back to because you
• 2:51:10
  Speaker 4: still got a few other things you gotta do. I
• 2:51:12
  Speaker 4: want to let you finish up your day, so we'll
• 2:51:14
  Speaker 4: wrap up here. But tonight when you go to bed,
• 2:51:18
  Speaker 4: your head hits the pillow. What do you think is
• 2:51:19
  Speaker 4: the last thing you're going to be thinking about tonight
• 2:51:21
  Speaker 4: before you.
• 2:51:22
  Speaker 11: Go to so exactly right, yeah, other than you know,
• 2:51:26
  Speaker 11: it's being blessed in position. Let's get to work. You
• 2:51:28
  Speaker 11: know it starts now, it's probably what I'll think, you know,
• 2:51:30
  Speaker 11: worry about all the other all the other tension media,
• 2:51:33
  Speaker 11: all the other kind of you know, spotlight that I
• 2:51:36
  Speaker 11: got and let's, you know, let's get get to work
• 2:51:37
  Speaker 11: and get to.
• 2:51:38
  Speaker 4: What it's really about, all right, Drake May number one
• 2:51:41
  Speaker 4: draft pick for the New England Patriots.
• 2:51:42
  Speaker 11: Thanks for stopping by, appreciate Thanks, guys.
• 2:51:44
  Speaker 7: This is awesome, awesome, that's all right.
• 2:51:47
  Speaker 4: That was Drake May. If Pete Carroll was from the South,
• 2:51:50
  Speaker 4: that's what he'd sound like. It sound like Drake May.
• 2:51:52
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I can see that.
• 2:51:53
  Speaker 9: You know. Honestly, when Brian Kelly went down to LSU,
• 2:51:57
  Speaker 9: he should have went for.
• 2:51:58
  Speaker 4: More of that version of an okay versus.
• 2:52:01
  Speaker 10: Just going complete Southern twenty.
• 2:52:05
  Speaker 8: He just should have stuck with Everett. I mean, come on,
• 2:52:07
  Speaker 8: Everett clearly has some clout in the in the league now,
• 2:52:09
  Speaker 8: right with all these guys that are landing in the NFL.
• 2:52:14
  Speaker 4: While we were listening to that, Kansas City took one
• 2:52:19
  Speaker 4: of my guys. Yeah, depressed Somatia, Am I saying that, right?
• 2:52:24
  Speaker 7: Matia?
• 2:52:26
  Speaker 5: Patrick Mahlmes, I love veach Man.
• 2:52:29
  Speaker 7: Is that what he tweeted? Sure? He does, This guy
• 2:52:32
  Speaker 7: Kingsley see Matilla is an athlete, But why do we
• 2:52:35
  Speaker 7: see if we're in a tackle? Yeah, I mean, this
• 2:52:38
  Speaker 7: guy is absolutely explosive.
• 2:52:40
  Speaker 5: Oh he just did the jump out of the pool.
• 2:52:44
  Speaker 7: Reaches.
• 2:52:45
  Speaker 10: There's no way. First of all, when I get in
• 2:52:48
  Speaker 10: the pool, you're talking about pools for a quick.
• 2:52:50
  Speaker 4: Second, you're not jumping out.
• 2:52:52
  Speaker 9: No, okay, I can barely stand up in the pool
• 2:52:55
  Speaker 9: where it's like four foot nine inches or five foot
• 2:52:58
  Speaker 9: to that's not accurate because I'm five to two and
• 2:53:02
  Speaker 9: I could barely stand up.
• 2:53:03
  Speaker 8: My god, you're five to Yes. I never even thought
• 2:53:05
  Speaker 8: to put.
• 2:53:05
  Speaker 10: The number to pools lie.
• 2:53:09
  Speaker 4: Pools live, which way numbers lie? They're deeper than Yeah.
• 2:53:13
  Speaker 7: The rivers have ties.
• 2:53:14
  Speaker 10: It'll be like five to two and I get in, Okay,
• 2:53:19
  Speaker 10: there's no way I'll be able to do what he
• 2:53:20
  Speaker 10: just did.
• 2:53:21
  Speaker 8: Wow, well, you were a super athlete. Most people can't
• 2:53:24
  Speaker 8: do what he I mean, that's I don't think I
• 2:53:26
  Speaker 8: can jump out of a one foot deep but I
• 2:53:28
  Speaker 8: can swim.
• 2:53:28
  Speaker 4: So that's what didn't we have the box jump challenge
• 2:53:32
  Speaker 4: in the studio at once.
• 2:53:35
  Speaker 10: Yeah, now that I can do I can do that.
• 2:53:37
  Speaker 5: Andy did it.
• 2:53:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I can do that.
• 2:53:40
  Speaker 8: That's pretty impressive. Because he's he's shorter, you.
• 2:53:41
  Speaker 5: Know, he's he's a pretty good athlete, not that good.
• 2:53:46
  Speaker 8: His son looks like a good athlete.
• 2:53:48
  Speaker 5: Son's a better athlete than he was.
• 2:53:50
  Speaker 8: Yeah, and he'll be the first to admit it is
• 2:53:52
  Speaker 8: better at the cross and tweet about it. No, I know,
• 2:53:54
  Speaker 8: I'm feel like vicariously following his son's career.
• 2:53:58
  Speaker 7: In my family, every gneration just gets better and better athletically. Like,
• 2:54:03
  Speaker 7: you know, my my dad and my uncles were here
• 2:54:05
  Speaker 7: and I was like a little above it. Now my
• 2:54:07
  Speaker 7: cousins are like all the way up here, you know,
• 2:54:10
  Speaker 7: Like it just seems like that's what they're hoping with
• 2:54:12
  Speaker 7: Drake may Right. You get the younger, you get, the better.
• 2:54:15
  Speaker 9: I just can't even listen to Evan because Evan has
• 2:54:18
  Speaker 9: said that he can make an NBA three, like he's confident.
• 2:54:21
  Speaker 7: I don't understand why people think they are.
• 2:54:23
  Speaker 5: I've made many NBA easily. Actually at the Celtics facility, Yeah,
• 2:54:27
  Speaker 5: NBA can I did it on the who invited me
• 2:54:30
  Speaker 5: to me and will to practice?
• 2:54:31
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I need to see this.
• 2:54:32
  Speaker 5: I used to be a good shooting picture didn't.
• 2:54:34
  Speaker 7: Happen me too?
• 2:54:34
  Speaker 8: Oh yeah, you were on the issue.
• 2:54:38
  Speaker 5: Now, it's a little different when there's a guy in
• 2:54:41
  Speaker 5: your face. Yeah, there's nineteen thousand people in the stands,
• 2:54:45
  Speaker 5: but the best shooting.
• 2:54:47
  Speaker 8: Very far away.
• 2:54:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I am shooting. You're like, man, it's a little
• 2:54:50
  Speaker 5: bit of an NBA three is a little bit of
• 2:54:53
  Speaker 5: a push. Yeah, as opposed to the college three.
• 2:54:55
  Speaker 8: You can take Kaitlyn Clark. I mean some of those
• 2:54:57
  Speaker 8: threes that she put up though, those like NBA three.
• 2:55:00
  Speaker 7: No way past no, No, she's hitting threes from like
• 2:55:05
  Speaker 7: twenty six thirties, she's twenty six to thirties.
• 2:55:07
  Speaker 5: Absolutely like that.
• 2:55:09
  Speaker 7: Those threes are even further than the NBA line is.
• 2:55:11
  Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, just peerless.
• 2:55:13
  Speaker 5: I would like to shoot with that ball though, Yeah,
• 2:55:15
  Speaker 5: other than it's small, but she is tremendous. No one else,
• 2:55:18
  Speaker 5: everybody else gets to use that ball in women's basketball.
• 2:55:21
  Speaker 5: They don't make them, like.
• 2:55:21
  Speaker 4: Sh Did I ever tell you tomorrow at the time
• 2:55:23
  Speaker 4: that I beat Andy Hart in three sports in one day?
• 2:55:26
  Speaker 24: No?
• 2:55:28
  Speaker 7: How furious was he?
• 2:55:29
  Speaker 10: This sounds like?
• 2:55:29
  Speaker 7: What was this like?
• 2:55:31
  Speaker 4: Moralized?
• 2:55:31
  Speaker 7: Was this?
• 2:55:32
  Speaker 10: Wait? Was this Patriots content? Olympics?
• 2:55:34
  Speaker 4: Like what happening?
• 2:55:36
  Speaker 8: Was it even four content?
• 2:55:37
  Speaker 5: You guys?
• 2:55:37
  Speaker 9: Just did it?
• 2:55:38
  Speaker 29: Oh?
• 2:55:38
  Speaker 5: Just now?
• 2:55:39
  Speaker 10: Whose idea was this.
• 2:55:40
  Speaker 8: They won't even record it.
• 2:55:41
  Speaker 4: We started with tennis.
• 2:55:42
  Speaker 8: Boys are dumb tomorrow and they like competition and sport boys.
• 2:55:47
  Speaker 4: And then I beat him in one on one basketball,
• 2:55:49
  Speaker 4: and then I beat him in horse?
• 2:55:50
  Speaker 5: Could you really beat him in one of them? I?
• 2:55:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, legit, Paul, I thought you beat him in Horse? No,
• 2:55:55
  Speaker 4: I would. I I can hit from the outside, so
• 2:55:58
  Speaker 4: I'm hitting outside shots and and then and then when
• 2:56:02
  Speaker 4: I missed, I would follow my shot and I get
• 2:56:06
  Speaker 4: the rebound. And then when I was in close, I
• 2:56:09
  Speaker 4: just pump. I'd wait for until I saw his ankles
• 2:56:12
  Speaker 4: at my eyes, and then I'd go up and it
• 2:56:14
  Speaker 4: was so what year was this? Oh, this is like
• 2:56:17
  Speaker 4: early two thousands.
• 2:56:19
  Speaker 8: I really want to picture you with a headband too,
• 2:56:21
  Speaker 8: and that I just think that that would yeah, yeah,
• 2:56:24
  Speaker 8: that would really just capture Fred. I feel like like
• 2:56:26
  Speaker 8: and Andy would be bothered by it.
• 2:56:28
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 2:56:28
  Speaker 8: Fred was like, you know, doing kind of like the
• 2:56:30
  Speaker 8: Tuck's bid and not taking it serious, but yet still wins.
• 2:56:33
  Speaker 8: And that just makes Andy even matter Fred strategy. Yeah,
• 2:56:37
  Speaker 8: you gotta have psychological credit.
• 2:56:38
  Speaker 5: First of all, Fred was like vastly superior to him
• 2:56:41
  Speaker 5: in tennis, Like it was it was if if Fred
• 2:56:45
  Speaker 5: was in anywhere close to the same shape physically that
• 2:56:48
  Speaker 5: Andy was, he would have beat him six o six
• 2:56:50
  Speaker 5: so in about twenty minutes. But what Fred would do
• 2:56:54
  Speaker 5: was he you know what, when you play tennis, you
• 2:56:57
  Speaker 5: have like two or three balls right, three balls right,
• 2:56:59
  Speaker 5: and he would hit it, you know, hit it, hit
• 2:57:03
  Speaker 5: it out. You know, Andy would hit one out and
• 2:57:05
  Speaker 5: there'd be one right like right by the net. Fred
• 2:57:08
  Speaker 5: would walk to the fence in the back because that
• 2:57:11
  Speaker 5: allowed him to get go for the furthest ball, the
• 2:57:13
  Speaker 5: ball furthest away. He'd walk, take his time, come back.
• 2:57:16
  Speaker 5: By the time he got back, he'd blister reserve. Well.
• 2:57:19
  Speaker 4: The first time I played him was here and everybody watched,
• 2:57:23
  Speaker 4: and you know, I beat him, but it was a
• 2:57:25
  Speaker 4: little a little closer. When I played in San Diego,
• 2:57:27
  Speaker 4: it was like six oh six one. But at the
• 2:57:29
  Speaker 4: first time I played him, after, you know, okay, good match,
• 2:57:33
  Speaker 4: I went to my office and laid on the floor,
• 2:57:35
  Speaker 4: closed my door.
• 2:57:38
  Speaker 8: I feel fine. What he had like his knee, you know,
• 2:57:41
  Speaker 8: the knees up and you're like the ice bags like
• 2:57:45
  Speaker 8: tape to both these bull shoulders.
• 2:57:47
  Speaker 7: Still got it, I still got it.
• 2:57:49
  Speaker 5: I don't think I remember the the one on one
• 2:57:52
  Speaker 5: basketball and San Diego legit win.
• 2:57:55
  Speaker 4: I might have.
• 2:57:55
  Speaker 5: I might have been knee deep in dieton Millers and
• 2:57:57
  Speaker 5: it might not even even been close. Really well, the
• 2:58:00
  Speaker 5: tennis was not close, No, but the one I.
• 2:58:02
  Speaker 4: Want like I would, I could hit from the outside
• 2:58:04
  Speaker 4: and I'd follow my shot and I get my own rebound.
• 2:58:06
  Speaker 4: And he just didn't have the strike like he's an athlete.
• 2:58:09
  Speaker 8: But he's not a good I that's I feel like
• 2:58:11
  Speaker 8: I can't play basketball. I can't play basketball.
• 2:58:15
  Speaker 4: It's a one sport.
• 2:58:16
  Speaker 8: I feel like I can't play You have your I
• 2:58:20
  Speaker 8: got no sense of no sense of like the spacing of.
• 2:58:23
  Speaker 7: That was all I had was I could shoot, and
• 2:58:26
  Speaker 7: I had a sense of basketball sense because I watched
• 2:58:29
  Speaker 7: so much basketball growing up.
• 2:58:30
  Speaker 8: You know where to go.
• 2:58:31
  Speaker 7: I knew where to get a shot. I knew I
• 2:58:33
  Speaker 7: knew where the soft spots were when teams played zone
• 2:58:35
  Speaker 7: like I just knew the game really well.
• 2:58:37
  Speaker 8: By the way, I realized, I'm kind of disappointed Fred
• 2:58:40
  Speaker 8: didn't jump on Drake May went for bringing up pickle ball,
• 2:58:42
  Speaker 8: like I thought the pickle that's true. No, I We're
• 2:58:47
  Speaker 8: gonna ask you questions. We haven't asked you before, and
• 2:58:48
  Speaker 8: I'm to go in on you on pickleball.
• 2:58:50
  Speaker 4: I don't know, Drake. You know at least Matt played tennis.
• 2:58:54
  Speaker 7: Wow, how did that work out?
• 2:58:57
  Speaker 8: You just feel shame and walks all right, we're done
• 2:58:59
  Speaker 8: with the second round.
• 2:59:00
  Speaker 4: By the way, here we.
• 2:59:01
  Speaker 8: Go, We're we're just a few four picks away here
• 2:59:03
  Speaker 8: from uh we're into the third round, maybe wrapping up
• 2:59:06
  Speaker 8: the night.
• 2:59:07
  Speaker 4: The Jets are on the board.
• 2:59:09
  Speaker 8: Uh, you know, I would just say real quick with
• 2:59:11
  Speaker 8: you know, the Chiefs clearly traded up, and I think
• 2:59:14
  Speaker 8: they probably had the same feeling we did, which was
• 2:59:16
  Speaker 8: like we're at the end of the line here with
• 2:59:17
  Speaker 8: the really you know, promising tackles. I think that we
• 2:59:20
  Speaker 8: had our cross hairs on. So, you know, they they
• 2:59:23
  Speaker 8: clearly understood that, and I think it was probably, I
• 2:59:26
  Speaker 8: mean clearly a pipe dream for us to think that
• 2:59:28
  Speaker 8: that he was going to last, you know, the next picks.
• 2:59:30
  Speaker 7: Yeah, So the couple guys that tackle, Javon Foster and
• 2:59:35
  Speaker 7: Christian Jones are still out there. I think are guys
• 2:59:37
  Speaker 7: that could develop. The one that is interesting though, is
• 2:59:41
  Speaker 7: Kieran or Mate. Oh yeah, I'm a god Jay perfect.
• 2:59:46
  Speaker 7: It nailed it from Yale, who is a man amongst
• 2:59:51
  Speaker 7: boys at that level, as you should be if you're
• 2:59:54
  Speaker 7: going to be an NFL prospect. But he is a raw,
• 2:59:57
  Speaker 7: you know, developmental tackle that has really high upside, Like
• 3:00:01
  Speaker 7: at this point in the draft that I'm kind of
• 3:00:02
  Speaker 7: thinking that that's what you should be looking at. Is
• 3:00:05
  Speaker 7: my point here to this. This whole thing is take
• 3:00:09
  Speaker 7: a chance on somebody with the tools, and yeah, he's
• 3:00:12
  Speaker 7: the big thing for him is that Yale ran like
• 3:00:14
  Speaker 7: a triple option offense and never threw the ball, so
• 3:00:16
  Speaker 7: he doesn't have a lot of true pass sets on
• 3:00:19
  Speaker 7: his film, so he's gonna have to learn how to
• 3:00:22
  Speaker 7: pass it at a high volume, you know, and really
• 3:00:25
  Speaker 7: drop back pass at a high volume. But when you
• 3:00:27
  Speaker 7: watch him run block, he moves people in the run
• 3:00:30
  Speaker 7: game and he's a behemoth.
• 3:00:31
  Speaker 5: I did read his name on a lot of people,
• 3:00:34
  Speaker 5: you know, when people like to throw sleepers out there,
• 3:00:37
  Speaker 5: he was included on a lot of different sleep I.
• 3:00:39
  Speaker 8: Think I gotta give Chris Cassidy a shout out. I
• 3:00:41
  Speaker 8: think he was one of the guys that that Chris
• 3:00:42
  Speaker 8: looked at when we did Draft countdown. So shout out
• 3:00:45
  Speaker 8: Chris Cassidy.
• 3:00:46
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I would say him, and you know Brandon Coleman,
• 3:00:51
  Speaker 7: the German guy Fred because he's also somebody that I
• 3:00:55
  Speaker 7: think you can start talking about it tackle as well.
• 3:00:57
  Speaker 7: Stephen Wallace from Penn State is another one. I don't
• 3:00:59
  Speaker 7: know if he he's a right tackle, that might be
• 3:01:01
  Speaker 7: a guard. You know, he's one of those type of
• 3:01:03
  Speaker 7: tweeener guys. But if I if it was me, you know,
• 3:01:06
  Speaker 7: Kieran from Yale, I'm not gonna try to say his
• 3:01:09
  Speaker 7: last name again.
• 3:01:10
  Speaker 9: Uh.
• 3:01:10
  Speaker 7: He he has all of the traits and all the
• 3:01:13
  Speaker 7: physical tools you look for for a left tackle. He
• 3:01:17
  Speaker 7: just is gonna need some developing And if they really
• 3:01:20
  Speaker 7: feel good about Chusa kora for and think they have
• 3:01:22
  Speaker 7: a year uh to get by at left tackle, uh,
• 3:01:25
  Speaker 7: then maybe he can be somebody that's on their radar here. Yeah,
• 3:01:30
  Speaker 7: I think you're close.
• 3:01:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, perfect.
• 3:01:33
  Speaker 8: You sound like it sounded effort. It rolled off your
• 3:01:35
  Speaker 8: tongue like you were Hushman's out there.
• 3:01:38
  Speaker 7: I also wonder really quickly, just we're talking about weaponizing
• 3:01:43
  Speaker 7: the offense, Jatavian Sanders from Texas is still there and
• 3:01:48
  Speaker 7: the Jets took him. Now the comp that I I
• 3:01:50
  Speaker 7: would use for Datavian Sanders is like a Day two
• 3:01:53
  Speaker 7: David and Joku, who just happened to have a really
• 3:01:56
  Speaker 7: good season with Alex van Pelt in Cleveland. So one
• 3:01:59
  Speaker 7: of those move kind of you know, flex tight ends
• 3:02:03
  Speaker 7: that's you to get catch crossers and seams off of
• 3:02:05
  Speaker 7: play action and get into the flats and run with
• 3:02:08
  Speaker 7: the ball after the catch. You know, kind of a
• 3:02:11
  Speaker 7: Johnny Smith as well. You know, you could kind of
• 3:02:14
  Speaker 7: use that comp as well, which in this offense makes
• 3:02:16
  Speaker 7: a lot more sense than it did in the Josh
• 3:02:18
  Speaker 7: McDaniels good one.
• 3:02:19
  Speaker 13: I didn't even I don't know why that didn't even
• 3:02:20
  Speaker 13: dawn on.
• 3:02:20
  Speaker 10: Me, But yeah, this jet selection is very interesting.
• 3:02:26
  Speaker 13: Gosh, I hate one.
• 3:02:27
  Speaker 8: Yeah, that's all right. I I I liked him. I
• 3:02:30
  Speaker 8: didn't think that it was totally necessary, but I always
• 3:02:34
  Speaker 8: get a namor with those guys and then they find
• 3:02:36
  Speaker 8: they ca Yeah, he's kind of like Debo Light, that
• 3:02:39
  Speaker 8: kind of guy.
• 3:02:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 3:02:40
  Speaker 7: The big thing with him was that there's just so
• 3:02:42
  Speaker 7: few his volume of downfield out nothing. It's like, I
• 3:02:49
  Speaker 7: think his like average depth of target was like five yards.
• 3:02:52
  Speaker 7: You know, everything is a scheme touch, you know, a
• 3:02:55
  Speaker 7: perimeter screen, quick slant, get it.
• 3:02:57
  Speaker 4: Out of Aaron Rodgers hands fast.
• 3:02:59
  Speaker 7: Yeah, but it's I didn't love him for the Patriots
• 3:03:02
  Speaker 7: because I think the Patriots, like Polk can win down
• 3:03:04
  Speaker 7: the fields.
• 3:03:04
  Speaker 8: You know, this Corley is a scheme, but a good
• 3:03:07
  Speaker 8: compliment to what they have right with Wilson, and.
• 3:03:10
  Speaker 7: He could have been in New York with the Jets. Yeah, yeah, definitely. Definitely.
• 3:03:15
  Speaker 8: Who's the other receiver they just grabbed the region free
• 3:03:17
  Speaker 8: agent they signed?
• 3:03:18
  Speaker 7: Mike Williams?
• 3:03:19
  Speaker 4: Mike all right, the Cardinals are on the clock at
• 3:03:23
  Speaker 4: the second pick in the third round.
• 3:03:25
  Speaker 8: But see who So who would you call the one?
• 3:03:28
  Speaker 8: Garrett Wilson, Garrett, Mike Williams, Garte. Mike Williams is a
• 3:03:33
  Speaker 8: I think a prototypical two Yeah yeah, really like candidate. Yeah, big,
• 3:03:38
  Speaker 8: a big guy. On the other he's like in you know,
• 3:03:42
  Speaker 8: he's an X on the outside. Yeah yeah, well and
• 3:03:45
  Speaker 8: that's what I mean, like because.
• 3:03:46
  Speaker 5: He's he's a complimentary.
• 3:03:49
  Speaker 8: You think that the one is the X, like, you know,
• 3:03:51
  Speaker 8: the guy that can get off the line.
• 3:03:53
  Speaker 5: I mean, not necessarily. T Higgins is the X in
• 3:03:55
  Speaker 5: Cincinnati and he's not the one. Yeah, you know, like
• 3:03:59
  Speaker 5: I think that it the did you have a philosophical
• 3:04:03
  Speaker 5: opposition to no.
• 3:04:05
  Speaker 4: I said, it's a problem.
• 3:04:06
  Speaker 5: I said, I'll tell you who agrees with you, Bill Belichick.
• 3:04:10
  Speaker 7: Because Bill hates receivers. He doesn't want numbers, he wants
• 3:04:14
  Speaker 7: something to not be on the team.
• 3:04:16
  Speaker 9: Well, I feel like T Higgins, He's like a great
• 3:04:19
  Speaker 9: number two, And so I'm like, why is everyone hating
• 3:04:21
  Speaker 9: about Pulp being a number two because they are a
• 3:04:24
  Speaker 9: great numberson.
• 3:04:24
  Speaker 7: That have Ja Mark Chase and we don't.
• 3:04:26
  Speaker 5: Well, yeah, and if he turns out to be T Higgins,
• 3:04:28
  Speaker 5: that'd be great, Yeah, because I think T Higgins is
• 3:04:30
  Speaker 5: a one on about fifteen other teams.
• 3:04:32
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 3:04:33
  Speaker 4: Travis from West Virginia says Tamara needs to realize that
• 3:04:37
  Speaker 4: she is five to two to the top of her head,
• 3:04:40
  Speaker 4: but you need to measure to the bottom of the chin.
• 3:04:43
  Speaker 7: That's such a great point.
• 3:04:44
  Speaker 4: It's right, it's up to him.
• 3:04:47
  Speaker 7: That's such.
• 3:04:47
  Speaker 10: Are like, then, I then I basically need to be.
• 3:04:53
  Speaker 8: Have you measured your skull? That's that's a really good
• 3:04:56
  Speaker 8: dimensions of your skull.
• 3:04:57
  Speaker 10: So basically I need to be in like the four
• 3:04:59
  Speaker 10: foot ten sections of the pool.
• 3:05:01
  Speaker 8: It's called the kiddie pool. It's like you just waiting
• 3:05:04
  Speaker 8: and link goes up to your Yeah, usually you can
• 3:05:06
  Speaker 8: probably jump out of it.
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  Speaker 7: It's not like where the main pool is. It's like.
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  Speaker 4: That's the one with all the urine.
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  Speaker 8: It right, Fred, You ever go to the Benson the
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  Speaker 8: water slide park there and wear them going down the cake?
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  Speaker 4: I've never been I can buy.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, Trey Benson, you are seeing a little bit which
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  Speaker 7: I think we expected the third fourth round, a little run.
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  Speaker 7: Jonathan Brooks already went, Trey Benson went, you know, we
• 3:05:34
  Speaker 7: started to see the running backs. Now get into the convo.
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  Speaker 4: Commanders around the clock, followed by your New England Patriots,
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  Speaker 4: assuming they stay.
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  Speaker 8: Put your New England Patriots. My sarch voice going, sorry,
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  Speaker 8: this is where I starts to get punchy. Here we
• 3:05:51
  Speaker 8: approach ten o'clock on the second night.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, who's that guy? Cousin Patty seems to have some
• 3:05:57
  Speaker 4: sort of cider knowledge because he's take putting these picks
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  Speaker 4: out early.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, it's it's been made, so whatever he said is
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  Speaker 9: probably the Patriots pick it is.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, So so who is it?
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  Speaker 5: If everybody knows who it is?
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  Speaker 8: Say it?
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  Speaker 10: Well, he doesn't have If it's not out there on
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  Speaker 10: the Twitter scal we can't I wonder who.
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  Speaker 5: Washington tell me so I can be like a grown up,
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  Speaker 5: thank you.
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  Speaker 10: Did Washington already make their pick?
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  Speaker 4: Yes, they picked the running back right or not missed it? No,
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  Speaker 4: Cardinals took the running back. I don't know who the
• 3:06:37
  Speaker 4: Commanders took. You take, you take. You're saying that the
• 3:06:42
  Speaker 4: Patriots took who.
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  Speaker 5: Wallace?
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  Speaker 8: So they took a tackle, Yeah, they took They took
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  Speaker 8: Penn State tackle Kayden Wallace.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah. So definitely someone that that's in this range just
• 3:06:56
  Speaker 7: missed out on the big boar, which is gonna piss
• 3:06:58
  Speaker 7: me me to just miss that on the big board.
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  Speaker 7: But what stands out to me with him is he's
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  Speaker 7: a very experienced tackle, made forty career starts in college,
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  Speaker 7: mostly on the right side, but very experienced, technically sound,
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  Speaker 7: balanced feet, doesn't really look out of control or at
• 3:07:15
  Speaker 7: a place at any point in time. You know Olufushan
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  Speaker 7: who was on the other side there at Penn State,
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  Speaker 7: he played on the right side, and his explosiveness out
• 3:07:23
  Speaker 7: of his stance and his ability ability to mirror pass
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  Speaker 7: rushers is really strong. You know, I had him right
• 3:07:28
  Speaker 7: in this range. I think this is you know exactly
• 3:07:31
  Speaker 7: where I would peg him to go. You know, I
• 3:07:34
  Speaker 7: had him with Kieran, with Brandon Coleman, which is this
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  Speaker 7: next wave of tackles that's going to come here. So
• 3:07:39
  Speaker 7: this was their guy. Totally understand what they're seeing here.
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  Speaker 7: With the player, the one question that I would have,
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  Speaker 7: he's a tackle. I think you know, some people are
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  Speaker 7: going to say he could move and decide to guard.
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  Speaker 7: But six five thirty four inch arms, I think he
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  Speaker 7: can play tackle. I think the biggest thing that I
• 3:07:54
  Speaker 7: would ask with him is, you know, is he going
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  Speaker 7: to transition to the left side? You know, theres another
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  Speaker 7: right tackle, but.
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  Speaker 4: You know that that scares me because if you didn't
• 3:08:03
  Speaker 4: play left tackle in college, are you going to play
• 3:08:05
  Speaker 4: left tackle on the pros?
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  Speaker 8: Probably not? You know, probably not.
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  Speaker 5: And I don't know.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, that's uh.
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  Speaker 7: I think he can. I don't think it's as big
• 3:08:12
  Speaker 7: of a deal for him to flip sides because he
• 3:08:16
  Speaker 7: does have the past protection prowess to do it.
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  Speaker 4: But you know, he's Bill said, you know, sometimes just
• 3:08:22
  Speaker 4: being on the other side of the line, everything's different.
• 3:08:24
  Speaker 4: I think some people don't adjust it.
• 3:08:26
  Speaker 5: I think it's different for everybody, And you know, I
• 3:08:29
  Speaker 5: don't know if this guy will be able to do
• 3:08:30
  Speaker 5: it or not. But sometimes guys play on the other
• 3:08:33
  Speaker 5: side because of who's there. And you know he had
• 3:08:35
  Speaker 5: Fashanu the command just took Brandon Coleman.
• 3:08:39
  Speaker 8: Damn it, you had designs on him.
• 3:08:42
  Speaker 7: But I would say that Brandon Coleman and Keddon Wallace
• 3:08:47
  Speaker 7: are similar, exactly a similar type of play.
• 3:08:50
  Speaker 4: Doesn't speak German, I know, I know, I know, but I'm.
• 3:08:54
  Speaker 7: Just saying that this is where, this is where all
• 3:08:56
  Speaker 7: these guys are supposed to go. So I I don't
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  Speaker 7: I'm not it's this is not a reach or anything
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  Speaker 7: like that.
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  Speaker 5: With Wallace.
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  Speaker 7: Uh, I think that the one thing that everybody's gonna
• 3:09:06
  Speaker 7: hold their hat on is can he transition to the
• 3:09:09
  Speaker 7: left side? Are they Is that what they want him
• 3:09:11
  Speaker 7: to do?
• 3:09:11
  Speaker 23: You know?
• 3:09:12
  Speaker 7: Is he is this kicking Mike On went who back inside?
• 3:09:15
  Speaker 7: Like what's happening? You know where he plays on the
• 3:09:17
  Speaker 7: line if he does develop it down the road, you know.
• 3:09:20
  Speaker 7: Joanni Kudust was also a third round pick and never
• 3:09:23
  Speaker 7: played a snap in the NFL pretty much. So you know,
• 3:09:25
  Speaker 7: we're at the point of the draft now where I'm
• 3:09:28
  Speaker 7: not gonna sit here and say, you know, Kennon Wallace
• 3:09:30
  Speaker 7: is going to be their their day one left tackle.
• 3:09:32
  Speaker 7: You know this is a developmental player.
• 3:09:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, Matt Morell. What's up over there? We're
• 3:09:39
  Speaker 4: gonna wrap up this show. Okay, So Patriots have picked
• 3:09:44
  Speaker 4: in the third round. Yes, they could move back up
• 3:09:46
  Speaker 4: into the third round. They've got two picks in the fourth.
• 3:09:49
  Speaker 4: But that'll be it for tonight's edition of the Patriots
• 3:09:52
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• 3:10:00
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• 3:10:04
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