Latest / Foul Territory / Orel Hershiser joins Splash Hit + Giants OF Drew Gilbert joins FT

Transcript

Orel Hershiser joins Splash Hit + Giants OF Drew Gilbert joins FT · Foul Territory

0:07
Speaker 1: All right, so another episode of Splash Hit Territory. We
0:09
Speaker 1: have a very special guest joining us today, The Bulldog.
0:12
Speaker 1: Eighteen season of the Big Leagues. Three time All Start,
0:16
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty NLSI Young Award Winner, nineteen eighty eight World
0:20
Speaker 1: Series Champion. I'm gonna go on for a little bit here, NLCSMVP,
0:25
Speaker 1: World Series MVP, MLB records, fifty nine scoreless eddings. Current
0:29
Speaker 1: broadcaster for the Dodgers in his thirteenth season. But besides
0:34
Speaker 1: being teammates with me in two thousand, his biggest accomplishment
0:37
Speaker 1: was he was a San Francisco Giant in nineteen ninety eight.
0:40
Speaker 2: Oral Herscheizer joins the show or what's going on?
0:42
Speaker 1: Man?
0:42
Speaker 2: Thank you very much. It's great to be with the FP.
0:46
Speaker 2: This is fun from my hotel room here in San Francisco.
0:49
Speaker 2: As the Dodgers and the Giants go at it again tonight.
0:52
Speaker 1: We'll talk about the rivalry a little bit. We did
0:55
Speaker 1: a podcast previewing this rivalry. We've both been on both
0:58
Speaker 1: sides of it, but I liked it when it was
1:01
Speaker 1: a little bit chippy and there was stuff going on
1:04
Speaker 1: and these two teams hated each other.
1:06
Speaker 2: The Dodgers have been so dominant lately.
1:09
Speaker 1: But you know, there was something that happened last night
1:12
Speaker 1: that might have made it a little bit chippy. But
1:14
Speaker 1: talk about being on both sides of that and what
1:16
Speaker 1: the rivalry has been in the past and what it
1:17
Speaker 1: is right now.
1:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like it has been a little bit
1:21
Speaker 2: more physical in the past, but I think it's more
1:23
Speaker 2: not just Dodger Giants, but it's just the culture of
1:26
Speaker 2: baseball has changed. The fraternity used to be a fraternity
1:31
Speaker 2: where you could fight like brothers. I think the fraternity
1:34
Speaker 2: now is more like you just go over to your
1:37
Speaker 2: brother's room and you knock on the door and say, hey,
1:39
Speaker 2: can you turn your music down. I don't think it
1:43
Speaker 2: gets physical where you start wrestling in the hallway or
1:46
Speaker 2: you take it outside and you know, you start playing
1:48
Speaker 2: tackle football, or you're playing flag football, but you tackle
1:52
Speaker 2: your brother. So yeah, it was definitely a little different.
1:57
Speaker 2: I think. You know, the sad part about it for
2:01
Speaker 2: me was when it got into the stands and then
2:04
Speaker 2: I think it started to calm things down on the field.
2:07
Speaker 2: Fans being nicer to each other. We know what happened
2:09
Speaker 2: to the Giant fan in LA back in the day,
2:12
Speaker 2: and you know, there have been things on the field
2:15
Speaker 2: that have actually hurt people, so it might not be
2:18
Speaker 2: as intense, but the rivalry is still there, I think
2:20
Speaker 2: in people's hearts. Yeah, I think so too.
2:23
Speaker 1: And I've been in the stands at Oracle Park with
2:26
Speaker 1: Dodger fans that were nothing but polite.
2:28
Speaker 2: So hopefully that continues.
2:29
Speaker 1: Let the guys fight it on the field, don't ever
2:31
Speaker 1: fight it out in the stands.
2:32
Speaker 2: It's baseball.
2:34
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean that much, although it is the best
2:36
Speaker 1: rivalry in.
2:37
Speaker 2: All the baseball talk about.
2:38
Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about what you saw from Landing Roup
2:40
Speaker 1: last night before we get into Atani today. He's a
2:44
Speaker 1: guy world that I've watched kind of grow up, stand
2:46
Speaker 1: a little bit taller on the mound.
2:47
Speaker 2: He's got a little bit.
2:48
Speaker 1: Of you know, swagger and for lack of a better term,
2:51
Speaker 1: fu and them, but his mound presence and his stuff
2:54
Speaker 1: has really developed.
2:55
Speaker 2: What'd you see last night? Well, I saw a right
2:58
Speaker 2: handed Madison bung guard. I think he really stands out there, like,
3:03
Speaker 2: you know what, I am here to enforce that we
3:06
Speaker 2: are on defense, that I am the pitcher. Madison was
3:10
Speaker 2: a hitter, so he even had that those aspirations of
3:13
Speaker 2: beating you when he got into the batter's box, but
3:15
Speaker 2: on the mound. As far as the way he carries himself,
3:17
Speaker 2: I like the way he carries himself. I had to
3:20
Speaker 2: kind of act that way a little bit. I didn't
3:22
Speaker 2: have a beard or an ugly face where I could
3:24
Speaker 2: really scowl in it. Guys, but my nickname was the bulldog,
3:27
Speaker 2: and there was something about having a presence out there,
3:30
Speaker 2: even if you felt terrible. You want to look like
3:33
Speaker 2: your roll and you don't want to give the hitter
3:35
Speaker 2: any edge. And you know, as a hitter, the edge
3:38
Speaker 2: is to look out there and go, this guy doesn't
3:40
Speaker 2: believe in himself, so I'm going to get him now.
3:42
Speaker 2: And that kind of edge of confidence is really really important.
3:45
Speaker 2: I love the fact that he moves the ball around
3:48
Speaker 2: the strike zone, you know, with his tremendous movement on
3:50
Speaker 2: his change up in his sinker, the fact that he
3:53
Speaker 2: will throw it inside to lefties who saw that early
3:56
Speaker 2: on when he was having a lot of success against
3:58
Speaker 2: the Dodgers. Last night, bead melode both sides of the
4:01
Speaker 2: plate and speed him up. Also, using some altitude, would
4:04
Speaker 2: go up in the strike zone and he's gotten, you know,
4:07
Speaker 2: better depth on his curveball now and a little bit
4:10
Speaker 2: more change of speeds, so his weapons are really really good.
4:14
Speaker 2: You know, the inning that he had the trouble, of course,
4:16
Speaker 2: he set the table and pushed a run across with walks,
4:19
Speaker 2: But it really was a good, good outing for him.
4:22
Speaker 2: You know, he was solid. He was locked in for
4:25
Speaker 2: a couple of innings, then he wasn't, and then all
4:27
Speaker 2: of a sudden he locked back in and off came
4:29
Speaker 2: the bullpen, and it was enough runs to beat the Dodgers.
4:33
Speaker 1: Well, I've talked to some sports psychologists and they're trying
4:35
Speaker 1: to implement this in players where they have an alter ego,
4:39
Speaker 1: whether it's a different name, a superhero's name. But like,
4:43
Speaker 1: you just touch on something, and I think we should
4:45
Speaker 1: touch on you were the nicest teammates I ever had.
4:48
Speaker 1: You're were the nicest guys I've ever met, But on.
4:50
Speaker 2: That fifth day you changed. Like how did you go
4:53
Speaker 2: about that?
4:54
Speaker 1: And what happened when you crossed that line to take
4:56
Speaker 1: the mound on the fifth day?
4:58
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I appreciate the comment first of all,
5:02
Speaker 2: and then I needed to become that guy I idolized
5:07
Speaker 2: big league ballplayers. I am in awe of walking into
5:11
Speaker 2: a big league stadium. I can't believe the money that
5:14
Speaker 2: they paid us and still pay today. And so to
5:18
Speaker 2: be in awe of all of that, and to think
5:21
Speaker 2: at early on I had to get Gary Carter out
5:24
Speaker 2: and Johnny Bench and Mike Schmidt and all these guys
5:27
Speaker 2: that I watched on TV in the Game of the
5:28
Speaker 2: week and different things, and all of a sudden, I'm
5:32
Speaker 2: like pitching scared, I'm pitching like I gotta be perfect.
5:35
Speaker 2: And Tommy Lasorda recognized that, and he gave me the
5:38
Speaker 2: nickname Bulldog. And he pretty much, you know, psychologists, psychiatrist,
5:42
Speaker 2: whatever collegist he is. He was very good at pulling
5:46
Speaker 2: out the best in you, and he did it in
5:48
Speaker 2: some odd ways. And for me, it was a you know,
5:51
Speaker 2: nose to nose speech where he's yelling at me, telling me,
5:54
Speaker 2: I don't like your first name, Oral, and your name
5:57
Speaker 2: from now on is Bulldog, and you're going to act
5:59
Speaker 2: like a bulldog. If you don't act like a bulldog,
6:02
Speaker 2: you're going to be robbing money from churches compared to
6:05
Speaker 2: flying in lear jets. And I can remember the speech,
6:08
Speaker 2: and I can remember him right up in my face
6:10
Speaker 2: giving me this nickname and just telling me, if you
6:14
Speaker 2: read through the lines, he was saying, you're a big leaguer.
6:17
Speaker 2: You just got to believe it and you got to
6:19
Speaker 2: go out there and act it. And so when he
6:21
Speaker 2: would bellow, come on, bulldog from the dugout, I would
6:25
Speaker 2: hear that and know my manager believed in me. He
6:28
Speaker 2: wants me to be tough. He knows I can get
6:30
Speaker 2: these guys out, and he believes that I should throw strikes.
6:33
Speaker 2: I don't need to be perfect. And so people wouldn't
6:36
Speaker 2: realize how many balls that I threw right down the
6:39
Speaker 2: middle on purpose, with good movement and with the change
6:43
Speaker 2: of velocity a little bit on my fastball, that there
6:46
Speaker 2: was no sense to try and throw another pitch. Just
6:49
Speaker 2: try and get him to hit it on the ground.
6:50
Speaker 2: There's no need to throw that pitch on the corner,
6:54
Speaker 2: have a chance for the umpire to miss it, have
6:56
Speaker 2: a chance for the hitter to say no, I'm not
6:58
Speaker 2: going to swing at it, and then have to throw
7:00
Speaker 2: another one compared to throwing it right down the middle,
7:03
Speaker 2: and you're probably not going to hit your target perfectly.
7:06
Speaker 2: But if it has the correct movement and it's late
7:09
Speaker 2: and it's the right velocity or change in velocity. Then
7:12
Speaker 2: you got a chance to get him out on one pitch,
7:15
Speaker 2: and hence we had the attitude on the mound, the
7:18
Speaker 2: nickname on the mound, and the ability to throw strikes
7:20
Speaker 2: with movement, and things started to work out.
7:24
Speaker 1: Well, that's good stuff for any pitcher. Now, it's just
7:26
Speaker 1: they try to throw it as hard as they can
7:28
Speaker 1: buy everybody. The Art of Pitching by Earl Herscheiser, great stuff.
7:31
Speaker 1: You just touched on something that I didn't even think
7:33
Speaker 1: we're going to talk about today. You played for a
7:35
Speaker 1: young Italian manager that that was a good motivator, and
7:39
Speaker 1: that maybe like the moves and what he did during
7:42
Speaker 1: the game and the strategy wasn't the most important thing.
7:47
Speaker 1: And the Giants have a young Italian manager that's a
7:49
Speaker 1: good motivator. I mean, talk about that, you know, in
7:53
Speaker 1: the development process in your years with Tommy Lesorta, and
7:56
Speaker 1: how you saw him develop as a manager and how
7:58
Speaker 1: he motivated you guys.
7:59
Speaker 2: Besides that's what you just said, Yeah, I think he
8:02
Speaker 2: was already a great manager when I arrived. So I
8:05
Speaker 2: arrived in eighty three, Fernando had arrived in eighty one
8:09
Speaker 2: and went through Fernando Mania, and they won the World Championship,
8:12
Speaker 2: and he was Rookie of the Year and all those
8:14
Speaker 2: different things. And then Tommy had arrived back in the
8:17
Speaker 2: seventies with the Russell say Lopes Garvey group and Dusty
8:22
Speaker 2: Baker and Reggie Smith and all those guys. Bird Houghton
8:26
Speaker 2: was on that team back then. So I think for me,
8:29
Speaker 2: the relationship with Tommy, not looking at his manager skills,
8:33
Speaker 2: my relationship with him became personal. He became my baseball father,
8:37
Speaker 2: you know, going out to dinner, on road trips, hanging out,
8:40
Speaker 2: going to speaking engagements where he would say, just Bulldog,
8:43
Speaker 2: come along, and I would watch him speak, and then
8:46
Speaker 2: he would surprisingly invite me up to the podium and
8:49
Speaker 2: force me to speak for a minute or two. So
8:51
Speaker 2: it was part of my whole upbringing. It was totally
8:54
Speaker 2: like a dad that was teaching you how to cross
8:56
Speaker 2: the street and look both ways. It was unbelievable the
8:59
Speaker 2: way he took care of me. And I knew that
9:03
Speaker 2: I was part of it when he did get in
9:06
Speaker 2: my face and he did name me bulldog, and he did,
9:09
Speaker 2: you know, pay attention to me and invite me out
9:12
Speaker 2: and teach me the ropes and the big leagues and
9:14
Speaker 2: there were veterans on the team, like Rick Monday who
9:16
Speaker 2: were alongside all up there in the broadcast booths. Still
9:19
Speaker 2: he does the Dodger radio broadcast. Just the other day,
9:22
Speaker 2: I was reminded of Rick and other veterans that took
9:25
Speaker 2: care of me when I got to the big leagues
9:27
Speaker 2: because in my eighth start against the Reds, I would
9:30
Speaker 2: face the minimum through seven and Nicko Saski was coming
9:34
Speaker 2: up and I got to a three to zero count
9:36
Speaker 2: with him, and he swung and he got the first
9:38
Speaker 2: hit of the game. And after the inning, I sat
9:40
Speaker 2: down next to Rick, I remembered and said, I can't
9:43
Speaker 2: believe he was swinging three to oho and he said, oral,
9:45
Speaker 2: it's a one nothing game and he's a home run hitter.
9:48
Speaker 2: And I'm like, this is another way that these guys
9:51
Speaker 2: just taught you how to be a big leaguer and
9:53
Speaker 2: how the game was played at that level. So when
9:55
Speaker 2: you talk about Tommy Lasorda and the question was about
9:58
Speaker 2: his managing skills developing, uh, he was already a great
10:02
Speaker 2: manager when I got there, but it definitely was in
10:04
Speaker 2: a different form than we're going to see from the
10:06
Speaker 2: current San Francisco Giant manager. I think he's gonna be
10:09
Speaker 2: a little bit more soft shoot, where Tommy was more
10:12
Speaker 2: in your face.
10:13
Speaker 1: That's a different game now if you're harsh on these guys,
10:16
Speaker 1: now they go sit in the corner for a while
10:18
Speaker 1: and you and you lose them. So yeah, it's gonna
10:21
Speaker 1: be fun to watch the evolution. And Tommy's the best.
10:23
Speaker 1: I mean, it was so cool to be around him. Yeah,
10:26
Speaker 1: here's when I was in LA. Let's talk about Otani.
10:29
Speaker 1: Tonight's pitcher two and oh with the five he didn't
10:33
Speaker 1: hit last time. There's a lot of talk about the
10:35
Speaker 1: Otani rule, which whatever, But but what have you see
10:38
Speaker 1: with this guy? And how cool is it to watch
10:40
Speaker 1: him hit every day and pitch every fifth day?
10:43
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's uh, it's very interesting to watch him every day.
10:48
Speaker 2: He's the same every day. I mean, the batting stands,
10:51
Speaker 2: there's no big adjustments. This is who he is. This
10:53
Speaker 2: is when he hits barely he ever hits on the field.
10:56
Speaker 2: He gets all his work done in the cage. But
10:58
Speaker 2: when he's slumping a little bit, he will go out
11:01
Speaker 2: on the field and want to watch the ball fly
11:03
Speaker 2: out of the ballpark. I think to help his confidence
11:05
Speaker 2: a little bit and not just to get the measurements
11:07
Speaker 2: in the cage. To watch him work as a pitcher,
11:10
Speaker 2: it's meticulous. It's at the same time of day when
11:13
Speaker 2: he does his lung toss or when he does his
11:15
Speaker 2: catch player, when he does his side work. He's very regimented.
11:20
Speaker 2: It reminds me a little bit of Clayton Kershaw, but
11:22
Speaker 2: he's doing it on both sides of the ball, where
11:25
Speaker 2: it is just so meticulous about what he does off
11:29
Speaker 2: the field that the fans don't see. He's as meticulous
11:32
Speaker 2: off the field as he is on the field when
11:34
Speaker 2: he's preparing for a game, as far as his sleep
11:37
Speaker 2: and how he eats and how he goes about his
11:40
Speaker 2: day and how he wears his headphones and stays in
11:43
Speaker 2: the zone for what he's doing. You know, he's Michael Jordan,
11:47
Speaker 2: He's Magic Johnson, He's whoever you want to name, Tiger Woods.
11:52
Speaker 2: As far as the distractions and the people that want
11:55
Speaker 2: a piece of him, but he has hedges around him
11:58
Speaker 2: that allow him to still stay in the zone. And
12:01
Speaker 2: that tells me how important baseball is to him, how
12:05
Speaker 2: important winning is to him, how important giving his best
12:09
Speaker 2: is to him. Because you could easily say I make
12:12
Speaker 2: seventy million dollars a year. I make another fifty or
12:15
Speaker 2: whatever on top of that endorsements, and you know what,
12:18
Speaker 2: I've made it. And you can start to get a
12:20
Speaker 2: little lackadaisical, or you can say, you know what, it's
12:22
Speaker 2: okay today to do this. So I think I'll go
12:25
Speaker 2: to the mall. And you know, if he went to
12:27
Speaker 2: the mall, he'd have to take three police officers with
12:29
Speaker 2: him and be in two limos to hide, one going
12:32
Speaker 2: one way and the other going the other way, like
12:34
Speaker 2: the president. But it shows me how important baseball is
12:38
Speaker 2: to him. You know, he's a baseball junkie. He's like you,
12:41
Speaker 2: he's like me. You know, he's a gym rat and
12:43
Speaker 2: and us Jim rats. If we have our focus and
12:47
Speaker 2: our blinders on which he does on a daily basis,
12:50
Speaker 2: it's it's impressive. It's really impressive.
12:52
Speaker 1: What's it like traveling with the team now after a
12:54
Speaker 1: couple of World series and having Otani? Is it just
12:57
Speaker 1: like traveling with the Beatles? I mean, what does it
12:58
Speaker 1: look like when you get off the bus at a hotel?
13:01
Speaker 3: Is it nuts?
13:02
Speaker 1: Yeah?
13:02
Speaker 2: It is nuts because Otani is definitely the focused. But
13:07
Speaker 2: then you have Mookie Bets and Freddie Freeman and Will
13:09
Speaker 2: Smith and Tascar Hernandez and then all you know, Blake
13:12
Speaker 2: Snell and you know, we travel on multiple planes. We
13:16
Speaker 2: don't have just one plane. The players have a plane,
13:18
Speaker 2: then the staff and everybody else has a plane. We've
13:21
Speaker 2: got buses that leave the hotel every half hour from
13:25
Speaker 2: a certain hour to up to a certain hour. We
13:28
Speaker 2: have chefs that will travel with us. I mean it
13:31
Speaker 2: is like the Beatles. It's crazy. And the Dodger organization
13:36
Speaker 2: has really made it a destination for other players. They
13:40
Speaker 2: don't have to pay the top dollar, even though we're
13:43
Speaker 2: the highest paying club. There are players that just want
13:47
Speaker 2: to be Dodgers now because they feel like maybe the
13:50
Speaker 2: staff can fix them. Between the internet staff and between
13:54
Speaker 2: the pitching coaches and between the hitting coaches and the
13:56
Speaker 2: role they're going to play and the players are going
13:59
Speaker 2: to be around learn from, it becomes a destination for
14:02
Speaker 2: these guys. And then how they treat the families, how
14:05
Speaker 2: they treat the travel, how what hotels we stay in,
14:08
Speaker 2: what goes on around the club as far as food
14:11
Speaker 2: and all the different things. Dodger Stadium, locker room now
14:15
Speaker 2: back in our day, you know how small the locker
14:18
Speaker 2: room was well. The facility for the players now is
14:22
Speaker 2: from home plate all the way down to the left
14:25
Speaker 2: field foul pole and three stories deep, three stories deep.
14:30
Speaker 2: It is an athletic club. It is a hotel. It
14:33
Speaker 2: is multiple kitchens. It is sleep rooms, it is anything.
14:37
Speaker 2: It is swim x, it is swimming pool, it is
14:40
Speaker 2: quiet rooms. It is everything you would want. It's I
14:44
Speaker 2: don't think fp we would have ever gone home. We
14:47
Speaker 2: would have just said, up, I'm just staying in the clubhouse.
14:51
Speaker 2: When we go on the road, I'll get on the plane,
14:53
Speaker 2: you know, tell my family to come visit me.
14:56
Speaker 1: You know, the divorce rate for Dodger players is higher
14:59
Speaker 1: than any other.
15:01
Speaker 2: It's crazy. I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if they
15:04
Speaker 2: wouldn't build a couple of apartments down in there for
15:07
Speaker 2: the young players to just say, oh, you guys can
15:09
Speaker 2: just stay here and learn baseball. So amazing.
15:13
Speaker 1: You missed the George Murph's George Foreman girl making a
15:16
Speaker 1: burger before you went out to what I mean giants.
15:19
Speaker 2: Didn't we have waffle Mania on Sundays and all kinds
15:23
Speaker 2: of stuff and murfh I mean Murph our clubhouse guy.
15:27
Speaker 2: The hall of Fame clubhouse guy Murph would not be
15:29
Speaker 2: able to walk from one end of the close the
15:31
Speaker 2: other without catching his breath.
15:34
Speaker 1: Murph's the greatest man. He's one of my dear friends.
15:36
Speaker 1: I'm sure yea too last.
15:38
Speaker 3: Thing, or I'll let you go.
15:39
Speaker 1: I know you got a big day plan before you
15:40
Speaker 1: get to the yard. I mean, how do these guys
15:42
Speaker 1: stay hungry? I mean, we're making Giants fans sick with
15:45
Speaker 1: all this Dodger talk right now, But I think I
15:48
Speaker 1: think you know the Giants one in ten, twelve, and fourteen,
15:51
Speaker 1: they stayed hungry through those years.
15:53
Speaker 2: You want it nineteen eighty eight?
15:55
Speaker 1: Like after back to back? How do you stay hungry
15:58
Speaker 1: as a player with all the money and all the
16:00
Speaker 1: stuff you're talking about, how do you stay focused to
16:02
Speaker 1: do it again?
16:04
Speaker 2: Well, I think the quality of the player that they
16:06
Speaker 2: bring in. You either want to be on the team,
16:10
Speaker 2: or you want to get more at bats or more innings,
16:12
Speaker 2: or you want to be a Hall of Famer. And
16:14
Speaker 2: I think they stay hungry that way. They compete with
16:17
Speaker 2: each other, and they're competing with the distance of a
16:19
Speaker 2: career where they want multiple rings, they want multiple MVPs,
16:23
Speaker 2: they want batting titles, they want eer titles, they want
16:26
Speaker 2: cy Young. So I think at that level they compete.
16:29
Speaker 2: And I think Dave Roberts and Andrew Friedman, the president
16:33
Speaker 2: of Baseball Ops, and Gomezi and all the different people
16:36
Speaker 2: around them, they keep them humble, They treat them with respect,
16:39
Speaker 2: They treat them with in a way that they esteem them,
16:42
Speaker 2: and they get whatever they want. But the expectation is,
16:45
Speaker 2: as you're getting whatever you need and whatever you want,
16:48
Speaker 2: you're going to work your butt off. And so these
16:51
Speaker 2: guys do stay healthy. And the Dodgers done a great
16:54
Speaker 2: job of building that character or picking the right guys
16:57
Speaker 2: with the right character. And you said something about and
17:00
Speaker 2: fans being jealous that we're talking so much Dodgers. Well,
17:03
Speaker 2: the year that I was a Giant, and I will
17:05
Speaker 2: say this, the Giants were probably the best organization in
17:09
Speaker 2: baseball in nineteen ninety eight. When I joined them, I
17:12
Speaker 2: came from the Cleveland Indians for three years. The Giants
17:15
Speaker 2: actually courted me before I became an Indian, and I
17:17
Speaker 2: actually had dinner at Peter McGowan's house and really wanted
17:21
Speaker 2: to be a Giant. And there was something that slipped
17:23
Speaker 2: up between the general manager and the owner as far
17:26
Speaker 2: as the negotiations with me, or I would have been
17:28
Speaker 2: a giant for those three years that I was an
17:30
Speaker 2: Indian that actually offered more money. After I called mister
17:34
Speaker 2: McGowan and said thank you for the negotiation, they actually
17:38
Speaker 2: offered more money and he goes, what did we offer
17:40
Speaker 2: you oral? And I go dah da da da this,
17:42
Speaker 2: and he goes, well, I'll do this. Change it. Well,
17:45
Speaker 2: I'd already given my word to the Indians, and so
17:48
Speaker 2: I had to call the Indians and say, you know,
17:50
Speaker 2: is there a way that I can get out of
17:51
Speaker 2: giving you my word that I'll be in camp tomorrow
17:53
Speaker 2: And they said, nope, we'll see in camp tomorrow. And
17:55
Speaker 2: so I had to call mister McGowan back and say,
17:58
Speaker 2: you know, sir, have you had the best? It was
18:00
Speaker 2: a little late, and I have to go and be
18:03
Speaker 2: an Indian. So three years later, when the Indian thing
18:07
Speaker 2: was over, he called immediately again and I became a
18:10
Speaker 2: giant that year. But I will tell you the people
18:12
Speaker 2: with San Francisco giants and you know, this class off
18:17
Speaker 2: the charts. I'm still good friends with Ned Coletti. Still
18:21
Speaker 2: he was the one that talked to me and brought
18:23
Speaker 2: me back to the Giants. I love this area of
18:26
Speaker 2: the country and I only wish the best for the Giants.
18:29
Speaker 2: I think the rivalry is so very important, and I
18:32
Speaker 2: think both organizations are trying to be at the top.
18:34
Speaker 2: And I know it's been a dry spell for the Giants,
18:37
Speaker 2: but I root for them to be up there with
18:40
Speaker 2: the Dodgers again. And that would be a lot of
18:42
Speaker 2: fun to have that kind of competition.
18:45
Speaker 3: It'd be good for baseball.
18:46
Speaker 1: Well, i'm blaming Peter McGowan for you and I not
18:49
Speaker 1: doing broadcast together for the Giants, because that would have
18:51
Speaker 1: been like five years or four or five years with
18:53
Speaker 1: the Giants, and who knows, Yeah.
18:55
Speaker 2: I would I would have not been booed out of here.
18:57
Speaker 2: But I picked the San Francisco Giants, and I picked
18:59
Speaker 2: the New Mets, and I picked the Cleveland Indians, and
19:02
Speaker 2: I ran out of ability to not be a Chicago Cup.
19:05
Speaker 2: I picked all the three teams, and I wanted to
19:07
Speaker 2: go to Chicago. I picked the Giants because I knew
19:10
Speaker 2: the fans would hold me accountable, and I knew I
19:12
Speaker 2: loved this city and I knew I loved pitching a candlestick.
19:15
Speaker 2: And then I picked the Mets because I knew they
19:17
Speaker 2: would hold me accountable. And beating the Mets in eighty eight,
19:19
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't want to go someplace just to
19:21
Speaker 2: be that cast off veteran that brings young pitchers around.
19:25
Speaker 2: I want to go someplace where the fans are intense,
19:27
Speaker 2: so they're going to hold me accountable. And we got
19:29
Speaker 2: a chance to win. And I went to Cleveland to
19:31
Speaker 2: be a better baseball person in the future as a
19:33
Speaker 2: broadcaster or a front office person, to learn the American
19:36
Speaker 2: League game. Well, now the games are the same as
19:38
Speaker 2: far as the rules, but back then with the DH,
19:41
Speaker 2: I wanted to go to the American League and learn
19:43
Speaker 2: all those cities and be ready for post career. And
19:47
Speaker 2: then my body gave out. At forty two. I wanted
19:49
Speaker 2: to go and live in a Brownstone and play for
19:52
Speaker 2: the Cubs, and my arm and my body just gave
19:55
Speaker 2: way and I couldn't have enough ability to do that.
19:58
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was one of my dreams, to to play
20:00
Speaker 1: at Wrigley Field.
20:02
Speaker 2: Just walk to work and that atmosphere is so great.
20:05
Speaker 2: Or go do your stuff.
20:06
Speaker 1: Man, thanks so much being on. I really appreciate your time.
20:09
Speaker 1: I'll see you at the yard in a couple of hours.
20:10
Speaker 4: See you tonight, Drew has Life.
20:23
Speaker 5: Man, you liking it.
20:24
Speaker 3: I'm all good, all good.
20:26
Speaker 6: I appreciate you guys having me excited to be on
20:28
Speaker 6: the show, but yeah, I'll go. Just got a couple
20:31
Speaker 6: of series wins back to back and looking forward to
20:34
Speaker 6: keeping a rolling hopefully.
20:35
Speaker 5: What's changed, What looks good over the past week that
20:38
Speaker 5: you didn't see in the first few weeks, or that
20:40
Speaker 5: the team didn't see in the first few weeks.
20:41
Speaker 6: I should say sure, I mean a little bit. For me,
20:45
Speaker 6: I don't know the answer to that. I was in
20:47
Speaker 6: triple at to start of the year.
20:50
Speaker 3: You know. I think part of it, too, is just
20:52
Speaker 3: the kind of the flow of the season. You know.
20:55
Speaker 6: I think everybody gets a little hyped up about a
20:58
Speaker 6: good or a bad start. Obviously, in a perfect role,
21:00
Speaker 6: you want to get off to a great start, but
21:02
Speaker 6: that's that's not baseball as we know.
21:05
Speaker 3: So I think it shoul kind of flow the season.
21:07
Speaker 6: We know we got a good roster and a good team,
21:08
Speaker 6: and you know a lot of veterans that have been
21:12
Speaker 6: around a while and they know not to get too
21:15
Speaker 6: high or too low and kind of just keep working
21:17
Speaker 6: and keep your head down.
21:18
Speaker 3: And I think you're kind of seeing that now.
21:22
Speaker 7: Drew Rush Stripling. Nice to meet you, man, I was
21:24
Speaker 7: a giant a couple of years before you in a
21:26
Speaker 7: in a past regime. Where are you living, man? San
21:29
Speaker 7: Francisco kind of a funny city to get acclimated to,
21:32
Speaker 7: or you just across the street at the hotel, or
21:34
Speaker 7: you find a spot already.
21:37
Speaker 3: So I'm actually out.
21:38
Speaker 6: I'm out across the bay over in Lafayette, Yeah, right now.
21:43
Speaker 6: I spent a little time last year at the hotel
21:45
Speaker 6: across the street when I got called up, so I
21:48
Speaker 6: know that all too well. But yeah, I'm over the
21:51
Speaker 6: bay right now, which is kind of nice just to
21:53
Speaker 6: be a little separated from the city.
21:56
Speaker 3: A little bit of a drive though, but I guess
21:58
Speaker 3: that's okay.
21:59
Speaker 7: Yeah, that Bay Bridge can be rough.
22:00
Speaker 1: Man.
22:01
Speaker 7: We did Lafayette too, We loved it. How about I mean,
22:05
Speaker 7: let's let's get right into it.
22:06
Speaker 1: Nana.
22:07
Speaker 7: You know Tony and and he played for him in
22:09
Speaker 7: college and now he's your guy in the big leagues.
22:11
Speaker 2: I guess my question.
22:12
Speaker 7: I know we're gonna get all the way into it,
22:14
Speaker 7: but my question is, like, what you know from your
22:16
Speaker 7: time at Tennessee with him? Where he's recruiting, he's got
22:19
Speaker 7: young men under his belt and he's he's you know,
22:21
Speaker 7: trying to get turn kids into men and put him
22:24
Speaker 7: out into the real world. And now flip it to
22:27
Speaker 7: coaching a major league team. What what did you see
22:29
Speaker 7: from him from your time at Tennessee that you knew
22:31
Speaker 7: that he had the skill set to take on the
22:33
Speaker 7: role that he has now.
22:35
Speaker 3: You know, I think he just has a really adaptable personality.
22:39
Speaker 6: I think he can kind of mesh and click along
22:42
Speaker 6: with like a bunch of different groups of people or
22:44
Speaker 6: types of personalities, and I think that's kind of what
22:47
Speaker 6: helped him in recruiting so much. But it's genuine, you know,
22:52
Speaker 6: so it doesn't ever feel like fake or forced. It's
22:55
Speaker 6: just kind of like he can just vibe with anyone
22:58
Speaker 6: and you know, kind of mix in with whatever group. So,
23:02
Speaker 6: you know, when I knew that it was a possibility
23:04
Speaker 6: that he might, you know, be up for the job,
23:07
Speaker 6: it made all the sense in my mind, and I
23:09
Speaker 6: had total total confidence he can he can do it.
23:14
Speaker 8: We'll jump back to him, but I want to talk
23:15
Speaker 8: a little outfield real quick, san fran It's it's a
23:19
Speaker 8: different kind of outfield plays pretty big. I know you
23:22
Speaker 8: play all three different positions center field. I think you're
23:25
Speaker 8: at center field now for the most part, if I'm
23:27
Speaker 8: not mistaken. How has practice been out there? Have you
23:32
Speaker 8: adjusted to that outfield, especially when that ball goes in
23:35
Speaker 8: the right center field gap.
23:37
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's uh, you know, it's unique.
23:39
Speaker 6: I think I think the biggest thing is is just
23:43
Speaker 6: the wind. You know, there's not really a predictable pattern
23:46
Speaker 6: with it. There's not necessarily like flags you can look
23:50
Speaker 6: at and know, Okay, the wind's blowing this direction today
23:53
Speaker 6: or this direction. You know, it's uh, you kind of
23:56
Speaker 6: just got to keep your feet moving the whole time. Ie,
23:58
Speaker 6: if you think you're camp, you just gotta kind of
24:00
Speaker 6: stay ready for the ball potentially, you know, blow one
24:03
Speaker 6: way to the other and then you know, I think
24:06
Speaker 6: there's certain times, whether it's like a six forty five game,
24:10
Speaker 6: where you get certain shadows that make it a little
24:13
Speaker 6: tough to see out there. But I mean again that
24:17
Speaker 6: that's not just for us, it's for the opponent too,
24:20
Speaker 6: So you try to, you know, make it your home
24:22
Speaker 6: field advantage and give as mate reps there as you
24:24
Speaker 6: possibly can. But I think you know, at the end
24:28
Speaker 6: of the day, like you also try not to like
24:29
Speaker 6: overthink it because I know a lot of people make
24:31
Speaker 6: it out to be like the you know, crazy with
24:33
Speaker 6: the right field wall or the triple's alley. But you know,
24:37
Speaker 6: I can only cover so much ground, so you just
24:41
Speaker 6: try to roll with the punches and catch the many
24:43
Speaker 6: balls as you can.
24:45
Speaker 7: Andrew, getting back to Tony a little bit here, how
24:48
Speaker 7: about have you noticed that he is still himself and
24:53
Speaker 7: has been from the jump? You know, like, I'm a
24:54
Speaker 7: little bit different right now than I am around my friends.
24:58
Speaker 7: You know, you kind of like ebb and flow on
25:00
Speaker 7: the room or who you're around and what you think
25:02
Speaker 7: you need to do or what you think people think
25:04
Speaker 7: of you. Have you noticed Tony has the ability to
25:07
Speaker 7: to stay himself or has it been an adjustment for him?
25:10
Speaker 7: You know, I feel like we're starting to see more
25:12
Speaker 7: edge come out from him, which we know and they're
25:14
Speaker 7: customed to see him from him as he's now twenty
25:16
Speaker 7: five games into his tenure. Uh maybe behind the scenes,
25:19
Speaker 7: have you seen that from the start or has it
25:21
Speaker 7: been an adjustment for him?
25:23
Speaker 3: Yeah? I think you know, I think he's been himself.
25:26
Speaker 6: To be honest with you, I think there are like
25:29
Speaker 6: little adjustments that he makes along the way that you know,
25:32
Speaker 6: he could answer better than I could, just from like
25:35
Speaker 6: an observational standpoint. But as far as like personality, uh,
25:40
Speaker 6: you know, he's been the exact same. You know, he's
25:43
Speaker 6: always been an intense guy, and I think that's a
25:45
Speaker 6: big reason why he got hired. So there's no reason
25:47
Speaker 6: for him to change that. But you know, I think,
25:51
Speaker 6: you know, you don't know what you don't know, so
25:53
Speaker 6: like there would be no reason for him, you know,
25:56
Speaker 6: like coming into the job to not be himself. And
25:59
Speaker 6: then the season goes, you know, he learns things that
26:02
Speaker 6: you can only learn as you go, and you know,
26:05
Speaker 6: he makes small adjustments here and there, but that's that's
26:07
Speaker 6: the game of baseball. Whether you're you know, a manager,
26:10
Speaker 6: you know, a player, or some in the front office,
26:12
Speaker 6: it's just a game of adjustments.
26:13
Speaker 3: So he's good at that.
26:16
Speaker 6: And I think the biggest thing, though, is he's just
26:19
Speaker 6: been himself, which I think all the guys appreciate.
26:22
Speaker 5: It's been fun to cover him so far, you know,
26:24
Speaker 5: in the beginning of his tenure here. Since we're mostly
26:26
Speaker 5: covering the major leagues, our Baseball America show handles a
26:30
Speaker 5: lot of the college game. What is the all time
26:33
Speaker 5: Tony Vaytello quote that stands out to you, whether it's
26:36
Speaker 5: something that you know he says around the team or
26:38
Speaker 5: something that you've seen him say publicly. He's already given
26:41
Speaker 5: us like twenty since he started in the big leagues.
26:44
Speaker 5: But I know he's been doing this for years. He
26:45
Speaker 5: does all the cultural references too, right.
26:50
Speaker 6: Sure, See, I'm a little I don't know if I'm
26:55
Speaker 6: so used to it at this point. I've just been
26:56
Speaker 6: with him for so long that, like, you know, I
26:58
Speaker 6: don't want to say I'm numb to it, but like
27:00
Speaker 6: we'll give me an example of like a quote that
27:03
Speaker 6: caught you guys, you're like, oh, that's that's a good one,
27:05
Speaker 6: and then maybe it's something to come to my head.
27:07
Speaker 5: Okay. So, like he'll he'll bring up modern references, right,
27:10
Speaker 5: just in the past few weeks, who is he brought up?
27:12
Speaker 5: He did he did a Kanye reference, he did a
27:16
Speaker 5: who is is it? A football reference? Like anything that's
27:19
Speaker 5: like the story of the week. He'll just bring it up,
27:22
Speaker 5: right and like somehow like he'll mix that into the conversation.
27:26
Speaker 5: I would say he's also just like very candid where
27:29
Speaker 5: it's like oh yeah, there was something going on, and
27:31
Speaker 5: but we've had a couple of those things behind the
27:33
Speaker 5: scenes and it's whatever, like oh the yeah, the ball
27:37
Speaker 5: Boy where he said something then he clarified it like
27:39
Speaker 5: he's just he's very who he is, and it's just like, yeah,
27:42
Speaker 5: like the ball boy was being slow.
27:44
Speaker 3: It is what it is.
27:45
Speaker 5: Like I agree with him. I like what what he says.
27:47
Speaker 5: So we're getting sent to kobe Ja references after beating
27:52
Speaker 5: the Dodgers, right, which just happened. So it's like every
27:55
Speaker 5: series we get something that relates to another sport or
27:59
Speaker 5: or music or something else.
28:01
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know how he does it, man, I mean,
28:03
Speaker 6: like he does it every day, and I'm again, I'm
28:05
Speaker 6: so used to it that like I don't even I
28:07
Speaker 6: don't have anything specifically that comes out my mind, at
28:10
Speaker 6: least anything I could say on TV.
28:14
Speaker 3: But yeah, he's he's so good at it.
28:16
Speaker 6: Like he has a way with words that's kind of hard,
28:18
Speaker 6: hard to like explain, but he does a good job
28:22
Speaker 6: like with that in terms of like being able to
28:23
Speaker 6: communicate with the team, uh and even like going back
28:26
Speaker 6: to college, like being able to motivate. So I think
28:29
Speaker 6: it's kind of a gift he has and you know,
28:31
Speaker 6: I'm glad I get to hear it every day.
28:34
Speaker 5: Hey, question for you, because I think this relates to
28:37
Speaker 5: what you've done so far in the big leagues in
28:39
Speaker 5: terms of bringing energy and a lot of fun and
28:43
Speaker 5: standing out right. We showed a couple of pictures of
28:45
Speaker 5: the guys hanging with you in the clubhouse and you
28:47
Speaker 5: get it all psyched up for games. Does some of
28:50
Speaker 5: that come from like the college vibe of you know,
28:53
Speaker 5: more energy, less kind of concerned about what's going on
28:56
Speaker 5: and just being yourself and hoping that if you're a
28:59
Speaker 5: genuine part of yourself, people like you and it will
29:02
Speaker 5: motivate the team. So, you know, because Tony's I think
29:05
Speaker 5: trying to do that and be like, hey, I'm going
29:07
Speaker 5: to be myself and I'm coming from a different world.
29:10
Speaker 5: I feel like you do that too by hitting the
29:12
Speaker 5: right tome, like guys are excited to have Drew Gilbert
29:15
Speaker 5: get called up and get the energy out on the field,
29:18
Speaker 5: but also get fired up in the clubhouse together.
29:21
Speaker 6: Sure, yeah, I think you know, like you want guys
29:25
Speaker 6: like no matter if it's talking about me or you
29:27
Speaker 6: know someone else, like you want guys that you want
29:29
Speaker 6: to play with or be around on a day to
29:31
Speaker 6: day basis, just because I mean, you guys, know, like
29:34
Speaker 6: you spend ten hours at the field every single day,
29:37
Speaker 6: you know, so you got to have a clubhouse of
29:41
Speaker 6: like good people and good dudes that you want to
29:43
Speaker 6: be around. Obviously, you know something that's a little crazy.
29:47
Speaker 6: But I think you know, like you get in the
29:50
Speaker 6: latter parts of the year, like August September, like it
29:52
Speaker 6: can be tough or more of a grind, you know,
29:56
Speaker 6: shown up every day. So I think the more you
29:58
Speaker 6: can make it fun and kind of spice thing up,
30:01
Speaker 6: you know, I think at the end of the day,
30:02
Speaker 6: you're gonna have a better team. And if you've got
30:04
Speaker 6: a group of guys that want to be around each
30:06
Speaker 6: other and then you got some talent mix on there,
30:08
Speaker 6: you could definitely have something there.
30:12
Speaker 7: I think that's impressive, Drew, because you know, kind of
30:14
Speaker 7: looking at your your trajectory so far as a professional
30:17
Speaker 7: baseball player hasn't been that long yet. You find yourself
30:20
Speaker 7: in your third organization, you know, but able to to
30:24
Speaker 7: bring that energy and be yourself I know, and can
30:26
Speaker 7: attest Matt Chapman helps with that. That dude's a maniac.
30:30
Speaker 7: I'm sure he's taken you under his wing in a
30:32
Speaker 7: couple of different ways and lets you be like that.
30:34
Speaker 7: But how about you know, now in your third organization,
30:37
Speaker 7: nice to have a familiar face like Tony, but like
30:39
Speaker 7: you feel, I feel like you're able to you know,
30:41
Speaker 7: does this one feel like home? Does this one feel
30:43
Speaker 7: like obviously anything can happen? This one feel like, you know,
30:45
Speaker 7: hopefully where you can put down some roots here for
30:47
Speaker 7: a little bit.
30:49
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean that would that would be nice considering
30:51
Speaker 6: you know, like you said, it's my third organization in
30:54
Speaker 6: like four years, so you know, and yeah, I think
30:58
Speaker 6: for sure, just you know, when you have your former
31:00
Speaker 6: college coach, it almost does feel like that a little bit,
31:05
Speaker 6: but you do understand like it's a business and anything
31:08
Speaker 6: can happen. But I guess you know, the goal is
31:11
Speaker 6: to you know, be good enough or make them like
31:14
Speaker 6: you enough or they don't want to get rid of you.
31:16
Speaker 3: So yeah, that'd be awesome.
31:17
Speaker 6: And you know, I've enjoyed my time here at the Giants,
31:21
Speaker 6: you know, also grateful for the time I spent with
31:23
Speaker 6: the Mets and the Astros. Those two organizations are great
31:26
Speaker 6: to me. And you know, I've been around a ton
31:28
Speaker 6: of people that have helped me get to this point.
31:30
Speaker 6: So you know, I'm excited to keep it rooming with
31:34
Speaker 6: the giants and hopefully here for a while.
31:37
Speaker 8: Definitely, definitely I want to go back to the other day.
31:40
Speaker 8: Logan webbed and Rushing had that little thing going on,
31:44
Speaker 8: and he threw a pitch Logan web hit him, and
31:47
Speaker 8: then Rushing with the quie hey man, listen, I'll take
31:50
Speaker 8: my base, you know, kind of tip this cap, little
31:52
Speaker 8: angry man. What is your thoughts about that whole situation.
31:55
Speaker 8: I know you're young to it. I'm sure you've seen
31:57
Speaker 8: it in college, but it's different in the big leagues
31:59
Speaker 8: a little bit, and now everything gets blown up a
32:01
Speaker 8: little bit more, right.
32:03
Speaker 6: Sure, yeah, you know, I'm I'm still new to this,
32:06
Speaker 6: you know, the whole thing where uh you know, so
32:09
Speaker 6: I don't even know what's going on half the time.
32:12
Speaker 6: You know, dult Rushing, he's a good young player, you know.
32:14
Speaker 6: I think he went to Louisville and I think we
32:16
Speaker 6: were the same draft class. You know, obviously he's having
32:19
Speaker 6: a hell of a year. So, uh, you know, I
32:23
Speaker 6: don't I don't necessarily know what goes on, you know,
32:25
Speaker 6: with a lot of those decisions or things. You know,
32:28
Speaker 6: obviously Webby's a great teammate and you know he's always
32:30
Speaker 6: standing up for the team.
32:33
Speaker 3: And you know, I don't know. I don't again, I
32:36
Speaker 3: have no idea what goes on with that stuff. Just
32:39
Speaker 3: try to do my job in the outfield.
32:41
Speaker 5: That's fair. Hey, is your energy level like this in
32:45
Speaker 5: everything that you do? Like, you know, if you play
32:50
Speaker 5: pick up basketball in the past, or just any kind
32:52
Speaker 5: of game with your friends growing up, would you get
32:54
Speaker 5: would you be the guy that's like super fired up
32:57
Speaker 5: and always extra competitive, where you know, to be like
33:00
Speaker 5: that and basically anything that involved winning.
33:04
Speaker 6: Yeah, probably. I mean I think it's just kind of
33:07
Speaker 6: who I am. I like to win, you know, I
33:10
Speaker 6: like it. If it's something I get into, then for
33:12
Speaker 6: sure I like to win.
33:14
Speaker 3: So there you go.
33:15
Speaker 6: There's been plenty of ping punk paddles that have been
33:18
Speaker 6: broken or yes, five controllers that have been smashed in
33:21
Speaker 6: the process. Maybe, but yeah, you know, it's just kind
33:24
Speaker 6: of been who I am. I don't know who I
33:26
Speaker 6: got it from, but it's just even since I was
33:30
Speaker 6: really young, I've just been like this.
33:33
Speaker 7: I don't want to make you talk anymore about the
33:35
Speaker 7: rushing and web stuff. I know, young guy doesn't want
33:37
Speaker 7: to go viral on X for saying anything. How about
33:42
Speaker 7: how about just being a part of the rivalry. You know,
33:44
Speaker 7: I was a Dodger and a Giant. I got to
33:46
Speaker 7: see from both sides.
33:48
Speaker 5: You know.
33:48
Speaker 7: Now, you just had a pretty fun three game set
33:51
Speaker 7: against them, won the series. You got another one coming
33:53
Speaker 7: up in Dodger Stadium. How do you feel about the
33:55
Speaker 7: rivalry and maybe how it compares to any that you've
33:58
Speaker 7: had in college, jen and now on a big league level.
34:02
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's uh, it's really cool, man, especially you know
34:05
Speaker 6: these last three games, playing them at home with you know,
34:09
Speaker 6: packed crowds. Uh, It's it's cool, especially when you have
34:13
Speaker 6: a Dodgers team that's uh, you know, been doing what
34:16
Speaker 6: they've been doing.
34:18
Speaker 3: It just kind of heightens the environment, right, Uh.
34:21
Speaker 6: And it's it's a good challenge for us, you know,
34:23
Speaker 6: you know, you want to go against the best, and
34:25
Speaker 6: I mean they, let's just call it a space bade.
34:27
Speaker 6: They've been the best last two years, So you know,
34:30
Speaker 6: it's cool. I think it's also a good test to
34:33
Speaker 6: not I think you can always kind of hype yourself
34:36
Speaker 6: up a little bit or psych yourself out a little
34:38
Speaker 6: bit too much and put an opponent on a pedestal,
34:41
Speaker 6: you know, more than you should, right Whereas it's the
34:43
Speaker 6: big leagues and any anybody can beat anybody on any
34:46
Speaker 6: given night. So I think it's it's a good test
34:48
Speaker 6: for us, and you know, obviously we'll see them more
34:52
Speaker 6: throughout the year, considering that they're in our division. But
34:55
Speaker 6: it's an awesome rivalry and I'm looking forward to being
34:57
Speaker 6: a part of it more.
34:59
Speaker 5: Hey, Drew, last one for you? What do you do
35:01
Speaker 5: for fun? What do you do if you have an
35:03
Speaker 5: off day or in the off season once you're done
35:05
Speaker 5: with the workouts and the whole deal, Like, what are
35:07
Speaker 5: the hobbies?
35:09
Speaker 7: Well?
35:10
Speaker 6: Right now, I have a six month old he mini
35:13
Speaker 6: bernadoodle puppy. His name is Bruce, and he is absolutely insane.
35:20
Speaker 6: So he occupies about every single minute of my free time.
35:25
Speaker 3: So that that's that's the only hobby I have right now.
35:27
Speaker 6: I used to play a little Fortnite, maybe get on
35:30
Speaker 6: video games, play some Call of Duty, but haven't really
35:32
Speaker 6: been on recently. Just trying not to get my arm
35:35
Speaker 6: ripped off by my little puppy.
35:37
Speaker 5: That's fair, Yeah, tricked? Are you gonna bring tricks?
35:41
Speaker 3: He knows.
35:42
Speaker 6: He knows like the base like to sit right down,
35:45
Speaker 6: roll over, Like he's pretty good in the leash and everything.
35:47
Speaker 6: But he just has so much energy, like at all
35:50
Speaker 6: times there's no napping, he doesn't want to nap, none
35:53
Speaker 6: of that. Like it's it could be eleven thirty at
35:55
Speaker 6: night and I get home in the field and I
35:57
Speaker 6: mean he's he's ready to roll.
35:59
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's a lot, it is.
36:03
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, it's like a little kid, NonStop energy.
36:05
Speaker 5: You have the kid kid will go be sleeping if
36:08
Speaker 5: you get home at eleven thirty. This guy's rolling, right
36:11
Speaker 5: Sometimes that's true. Well, Drew really enjoyed the combo. Great
36:16
Speaker 5: having you on. Appreciate the time. Man, keep doing your thing.
36:18
Speaker 2: Good luck.
36:19
Speaker 3: All right, guys, I appreciate you having me