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03/20/26 - Hour 3 · The Huddle

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Speaker 1: Good morning, Wisconsin, and welcome to the huddle.
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Speaker 1: Thank you Hunter bomb Guard for that intro.
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Speaker 3: Always good, always good. Badgers are out of the tournament.
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Speaker 3: We're taking your thoughts. If you're just waking up, where
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Speaker 3: have you been? We reported for duty at five am.
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Speaker 3: You can reach us eight seven seven seven nine four
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Speaker 3: Nicolay lot Co. I'm talking text line. I want to
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Speaker 3: hear from the Greg Guard haters. They've been quiet surprisingly.
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Speaker 1: You know, Drew.
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Speaker 5: I think there's a lot that maybe want to be
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Speaker 5: Greg Guard haters, but I don't think they really feel
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Speaker 5: like they absolutely can, because I don't know that there's
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Speaker 5: a whole lot of they realize that there's not a
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Speaker 5: whole lot grounded in the belief right. There's a lot
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Speaker 5: of want to always go to the next level. You
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Speaker 5: know who wants to win in the NCAA tournament more
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Speaker 5: than you, Greg Guard, Greg Guard, Like, I just and
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Speaker 5: I don't mean it like in a dumb way or
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Speaker 5: a backhanded slab like. It's just this stuff matters so much.
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Speaker 5: There's a reason why this tournament is as important as
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Speaker 5: it is. And you know that they've come up short
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Speaker 5: with some really really good teams. There's people say that
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Speaker 5: you're accepting mediocrity by keeping him around. Are they mediocre?
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Speaker 5: They're better than mediocre now than the tournament mediocre?
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Speaker 1: Perhaps?
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Speaker 3: Sure, Now, Hubert Davis and Carolina few straight losses in
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Speaker 3: the first round and that doesn't really happen at North
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Speaker 3: Carolina and so on ESPN right now, how much blame
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Speaker 3: is on Hubert Davis? Has he coached his last game
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Speaker 3: with the tar Heels.
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Speaker 4: Oh, he's definitely getting a little heat there. Also, didn't
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Speaker 4: have the best of looks in his postgame presser. A
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Speaker 4: little No, they starting when you lose a game like that.
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Speaker 4: That program, Yeah, the standards are very high for their
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Speaker 4: fan base. They were only a six seed, but.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, losing an overtime to VCU, Yeah so they too.
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Speaker 3: But it's all it's where where are you? I mean,
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Speaker 3: Greg Guard fire him? You want him fired? Okay, well
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Speaker 3: you got to come up with eight million to fire him,
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Speaker 3: and then you got to hire the new guy. And
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Speaker 3: so there's the money aspect of it that shouldn't enter into.
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Speaker 1: It, but it does.
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Speaker 3: And there's the fact that, again I look at process
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Speaker 3: over results, and the results are important, but process is
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Speaker 3: probably arguably more important.
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Speaker 5: And that you have to have a good process to
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Speaker 5: get to results, no doubt about it. And they've again
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Speaker 5: they've they've had results that have been close to it.
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Speaker 5: And and the comparisons to Paul Chris to Greg Guard,
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Speaker 5: I think are if there was more about how it
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Speaker 5: all went down with Paul, and I think if there
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Speaker 5: were some, you know, clearer facts as to how that happened.
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Speaker 5: I don't necessarily know that it was a walk in,
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Speaker 5: hey man, we gotta let you go. I think there
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Speaker 5: were mounting situations, and I think Chris Macintosh has mentioned
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Speaker 5: it where like that wasn't the genuine like that wasn't
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Speaker 5: the thought right away when they walked into the meeting.
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Speaker 5: There's a reason why there was like a three and
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Speaker 5: a half hour reported meeting between christ and Macintosh. Generally
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Speaker 5: when you walk in to get whacked. That doesn't last
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Speaker 5: three and a half.
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Speaker 1: Hours, ten minutes, hear your papers, Well, thank you very much.
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Speaker 1: There's somebody in hr here.
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Speaker 4: And that might have been more of a process issue
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Speaker 4: because there are questions about the.
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Speaker 5: Recruiting a long time process conversation, right, and then you
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Speaker 5: saw and not that Luke Fickle I think is absolved
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Speaker 5: of blame in the lack of ability to dig out
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Speaker 5: of the hole that they were kind of put in.
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Speaker 5: But this would have been like the third year of
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Speaker 5: the recruiting class, so the fourth year of the senior class.
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Speaker 5: That would have been the last year of Paul christ
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Speaker 5: Crazy how the fruits of that labor mean to a
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Speaker 5: four and eight year like, So you have to do
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Speaker 5: a lot to put yourself back into a positive situation.
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Speaker 5: And the thought of like, hey man, it's gonna get
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Speaker 5: used against them in recruiting that they haven't been to
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Speaker 5: the second weekend.
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Speaker 1: Okay, sure is.
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Speaker 5: And you know what also is going to be you
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Speaker 5: viewed negatively in recruiting is how much money everybody's spending
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Speaker 5: on different private planes or what organization is spending this
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Speaker 5: money on basketball? And that one, I mean Indiana spends
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Speaker 5: more money on basketball than anybody. And you want to
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Speaker 5: talk about mediocre, that would be the epitome of it
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Speaker 5: over the last couple of years.
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Speaker 4: And great players, really good players, competitive kids, the high risers,
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Speaker 4: the high.
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Speaker 1: Rankers, the blue chips.
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Speaker 4: They don't come in thinking, well, they lost ten years ago,
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Speaker 4: so they can't win with me. They think, no, I'm
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Speaker 4: gonna be the one that's going to change it around.
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Speaker 4: So how bad you want me? I don't think that
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Speaker 4: is ever a factor, to be honest with you. I
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Speaker 4: think fans thinking is, but I don't think it is
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Speaker 4: that much. Mike went on the YouTube.
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Speaker 1: I don't.
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Speaker 4: I think he reflects a lot of feelings today, Mike does.
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Speaker 4: I don't think I want him fired. I think a
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Speaker 4: lot of people think that they don't want to guard fired.
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Speaker 4: But he said, I came to the realization yesterday there.
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Speaker 4: I don't think we'll ever win anything significant with him
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Speaker 4: at the Helm. Sorry, just my opinion, very angry today. Sorry,
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Speaker 4: first of all, mikeing up to apologize twice. We appreciate,
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Speaker 4: we appreciate it, and the emotion you can feel the
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Speaker 4: way you want to feel. I think many people feel like,
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Speaker 4: don't think we want him fired, but are we gonna
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Speaker 4: win with him? It's just the frustration and DREWI you
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Speaker 4: got into that earlier of the question of well, we
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Speaker 4: haven't won anything with him yet significant in terms of
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Speaker 4: March success, so therefore it can't happen. I think that's
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Speaker 4: a common fallacy a lot of fans have that something
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Speaker 4: can't change because it happened already.
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Speaker 1: We talked about in the first hour. It happened with
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Speaker 1: Bow Ryan a lot.
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Speaker 4: Bow was struggling to advance against lesser seated teams in the.
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Speaker 1: Tournament early on in his tenure.
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Speaker 4: Never get over the hump that was a cloud hanging
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Speaker 4: over his head until he did. And he did it
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Speaker 4: and you know, high fashion with his two best teams
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Speaker 4: crowning achievements.
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Speaker 3: And then what cracks me up is the narrative the
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Speaker 3: folks say Guard made the Sweet Sixteen twice his first
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Speaker 3: two years with Bo's players who were recruited.
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Speaker 1: By Greg Greg Garden.
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Speaker 3: And Greg Guard who was you know, both players who
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Speaker 3: Greg Guard coached every day in practice.
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Speaker 1: It was with every day like Matt.
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Speaker 3: It's one thing, if you're coming in from the outside,
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Speaker 3: you can use that argument, but the idea that they
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Speaker 3: were Bose guys come on.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think the talent development is like so
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Speaker 5: much of that desert and goes right to guard of
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Speaker 5: being able to develop.
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Speaker 3: That's the other thing, like how do you not win
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Speaker 3: with Tanjay and black Well?
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Speaker 1: Well?
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Speaker 3: Who recruited those guys and who coached them up? Yes,
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Speaker 3: nick boy like and Butcher said this with us earlier
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Speaker 3: this week, Nick boy like, he improved a lot.
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Speaker 1: Look at how much better here they got better? Isn't
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Speaker 1: that the coaches job?
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Speaker 3: Like coaches jobs winning the tournament period, Well, in order
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Speaker 3: to do that, you've got to have Again, it's the process,
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Speaker 3: Like the nil they've figured that out. They've they've gone
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Speaker 3: and got like guys that ended up Like the rest
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Speaker 3: of the country is like, why didn't we get this guy?
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Speaker 3: Every team that needs a scoring guard is like where
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Speaker 3: why didn't we Nick boy? What were we sleeping at
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Speaker 3: the switch? Yeah, a lot of athletics got him and
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Speaker 3: they developed him and made him better, and he's singing
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Speaker 3: the praises of the program now.
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Speaker 1: It would have been nice to have him for more
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Speaker 1: than a year.
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Speaker 4: And the dichotomy I think for the struggle for like
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Speaker 4: a lot of college basketball fans will say this is
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Speaker 4: the time where they get frustrated because they say the
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Speaker 4: season is more than March. You know, the Badgers didn't.
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Speaker 4: They won a lot of games, important games, big games
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Speaker 4: in a tough conference. But then there's a lot of
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Speaker 4: the casual fans that say, we'll say back to that. No,
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Speaker 4: it's not like March is where your bones are made.
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Speaker 4: March is where you get your legend made. March is
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Speaker 4: how you get remembered. And I think there's a truth
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Speaker 4: aspect to both, but I think the reality is, if
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Speaker 4: you're only judging on one game, it comes down to
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Speaker 4: one possession in March. Went through last year, came down
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Speaker 4: to the last time ja possession came down to this
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Speaker 4: nick boy possession and it didn't go your way.
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Speaker 1: But this team was much more than that.
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Speaker 4: But unfortunately, in this game, in college basketball, it comes
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Speaker 4: down to what happens in March for a lot of people.
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Speaker 5: And I think the interesting resent that we're getting here, guys,
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Speaker 5: is very much like our friend Mike and Dave and
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Speaker 5: Oregon Oregon or Oregon.
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Speaker 1: Good morning, guys.
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Speaker 5: Not sure if this came up earlier this morning, but
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Speaker 5: remember Tony Bennet's number one team, Virginia lost to UNBC
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Speaker 5: the sixteen seed. There were the national champions that next year.
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Speaker 5: There's always hope and you bring it up to the
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Speaker 5: bow Ryan thing, do we remember what happened in twenty
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Speaker 5: thirteen when they were the five seed and lost to
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Speaker 5: number twelve Old Miss when they were trying to call
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Speaker 5: this first round the second round.
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Speaker 1: The next year they're in the final four.
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Speaker 5: Like, again, doesn't mean that that's going to happen, but
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Speaker 5: the thought that one year is going to be reflective
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Speaker 5: and a damnation as to where you are going forward.
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Speaker 1: I can't get on, but I do.
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Speaker 5: I do understand, and I think it's a fair thought
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Speaker 5: and question of saying how do we get past this?
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Speaker 5: But again that's then goes to so just because one
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Speaker 5: team did it fifteen years ago with three different institutions ago,
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Speaker 5: we think of and I'm not trying to you know,
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Speaker 5: Pylon Shaka smart, Like this isn't a bash one guy
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Speaker 5: to lift up the other. But he went to the
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Speaker 5: final four fifteen years ago. But it's a made man
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Speaker 5: because he's been there. So like it's a difficult spot
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Speaker 5: to just analyze the four wins that you have to
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Speaker 5: get to the pinnacle and get to one of those
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Speaker 5: those dances. But they've had so many opportunities. At some
10:19
Speaker 5: point you wonder if maybe there could be a little
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Speaker 5: in game management that would be a little bit different.
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Speaker 5: If indeed Greg Guard sat back here beers on the
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Speaker 5: table later on into the summer and said, man, I
10:30
Speaker 5: wish I would have had a timeout, or maybe I
10:32
Speaker 5: should have taken a timeout to try to reemphasize, Hey,
10:34
Speaker 5: fellow's just what we need to know. If this ball
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Speaker 5: doesn't go down, we can't have five guys in the
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Speaker 5: lane trying to get the offensive rebound, and we can't
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Speaker 5: let Sweater Vest no shooting twos go down here and
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Speaker 5: get a wide open layup to break us.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So like just the confluence of events there were tough.
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Speaker 5: Is always gonna blame yourself a lot more, and I
10:52
Speaker 5: can assume there's a lot of that. But I do
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Speaker 5: this a lot in football, and I'm right here with
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Speaker 5: basketball as well. Jonah Nerverfall says, the boys kind of
11:01
Speaker 5: fumbled that bag by themselves last night.
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Speaker 1: Guys, I can't blame Guard for this one.
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Speaker 5: To me, it was just like I struggled to blame
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Speaker 5: rich Basacia for Romeo Dobbs dropping the football right.
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Speaker 1: I struggle with those being the one.
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Speaker 5: Where it ends up at the coaches, at the coach's feet,
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Speaker 5: but generally it always does. Our friend Janny and Appleton said,
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Speaker 5: do not fire Greg Guard. He's a great coach. And
11:26
Speaker 5: who else didn't get that? That's Siana coach. Who are
11:29
Speaker 5: you gonna get then the Siana coach? Well, Jenny, if
11:32
Speaker 5: Syracuse doesn't get this Siana coach, then maybe somebody should.
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Speaker 1: Know he will. I think Jerry will be in demand.
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Speaker 1: He's done, sure, he quit himself.
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Speaker 5: Well yesterday Janny also said, I love watching the Badges
11:43
Speaker 5: except for yesterday.
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Speaker 1: Oh well, great year, onto the next one.
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Speaker 5: I think the program will be okay Underguard heavy sigh.
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Speaker 1: But what a kick to the Gonats it is.
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Speaker 4: I think it's funny when he says it will be
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Speaker 4: okay now I know what she means going forward. But
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Speaker 4: and you asked about the Solderberg thing earlier, Billy, there
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Speaker 4: is what's the sense of fans that might think he's
12:01
Speaker 4: still the new coach for the Badgers, right, because you
12:04
Speaker 4: had so much, so many good memories from those final
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Speaker 4: four runs, and you're like, all right, Guard's taken over now,
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Speaker 4: I'm like it's been ten years, like Guard has been
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Speaker 4: at the Helm for ten years.
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Speaker 1: That's a long.
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Speaker 4: Tenure for any college coach. And he's had good results.
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Speaker 4: But when you come off two final fours, a national
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Speaker 4: championship appearance, and a hair away from winning it all
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Speaker 4: with a guy like Bull Ryan, it is tough to
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Speaker 4: follow that up. And it always will be tough to
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Speaker 4: follow up a legend. And Greg has done a very
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Speaker 4: good job at it. But there's always going to be
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Speaker 4: that comparison of, well, we were a final four program,
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Speaker 4: you know, and it's like you're a program that made
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Speaker 4: final fours.
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Speaker 3: You know, they don't need any more, Like all you
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Speaker 3: got to do is look at the football side of things.
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Speaker 3: And again Paul Christ, the process with Paul Christ appeared
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Speaker 3: to be flawed in terms of they've fallen behind in
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Speaker 3: terms of recruiting, and they weren't adapting well to the
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Speaker 3: shifting of the landscape, whereas Greg Guard clearly has adapted well.
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Speaker 3: And there was also and there was a lot of
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Speaker 3: players and yeah.
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Speaker 5: And there was a lot too of different people that
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Speaker 5: went uh in and out of the of the portal,
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Speaker 5: and and and for Chris there was a lot of personnel,
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Speaker 5: staffing things that had kind of changed up and led
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Speaker 5: to the change. This one is just a different situation.
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Speaker 5: And I obviously really really like Greg. Right, that's the
13:24
Speaker 5: other part of this that's a difficult one where I
13:27
Speaker 5: think if you have good people and they are allowed
13:30
Speaker 5: to get better in their position and in their spot,
13:34
Speaker 5: a lot of times that gets better. I do like
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Speaker 5: this one from Jeff. He said, Uh, even when you
13:37
Speaker 5: guys get butchery on, I hope he brings that same
13:39
Speaker 5: energy that he does about the Packers every year they
13:41
Speaker 5: call him. He calls him soft for only caring about
13:44
Speaker 5: their s Letting Hill and making money and not the
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Speaker 5: football team.
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Speaker 1: Uh.
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Speaker 5: But you could make that same type argument for the Badgers,
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Speaker 5: which I don't agree with.
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Speaker 1: But man, this really does hurt a lot.
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Speaker 5: I like that We're already in the spot where it
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Speaker 5: hurts so much that we're gonna start attacking the other
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Speaker 5: teams in the.
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Speaker 1: States at each other.
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Speaker 5: That's why you know that the passion is gonna run very,
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Speaker 5: very deep.
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Speaker 4: Is there something to his argument maybe in terms of that,
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Speaker 4: But only Butcher can answer that.
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Speaker 5: Which will answer, Hey, we'll put you on next week.
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Speaker 5: We're gonna get the Hall of Famer here because we
14:14
Speaker 5: need to get the truest grace and honestly, the ratings
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Speaker 5: bought Matt Lapaye like's a joke that the ratings uh
14:21
Speaker 5: bust happens uh in the seven o'clock hour on Fridays.
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Speaker 5: This is when the boom boom really takes over, and
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Speaker 5: the boom that the bosses were very very excited about
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Speaker 5: hearing yesterday.
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Speaker 1: I think you made a great point, Billy.
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Speaker 4: By the way, he did a great job with Dougie
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Speaker 4: on the YouTube stream for Pottawadam yesterday. They had a
14:37
Speaker 4: special show, had a lot of the stars of the
14:40
Speaker 4: city of the industry, and you're one of them for sure.
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Speaker 4: On and you made a good point yesterday with him
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Speaker 4: about you know, the notion that if you if you
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Speaker 4: had gotten if you let go of Greg Guard, he's
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Speaker 4: so respecting the coaching community, he'd get a job tomorrow.
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Speaker 1: Right, That's true? Does that?
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Speaker 4: Does that always mean though, that that's not the right
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Speaker 4: time to move on from somebody now, I'm not saying
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Speaker 4: it is. In fact, I think it's the opposite. I
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Speaker 4: think Greg Guard's a fantastic coach. I think the Badgers
15:06
Speaker 4: would be silly to ever do anything like that. I
15:08
Speaker 4: think one day people will realize how just how good
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Speaker 4: he is if they don't realize it now. But just
15:13
Speaker 4: being you know, being in demand, knowing other programs will
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Speaker 4: hire you and you are a good coach, doesn't mean
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Speaker 4: like a new voice or a new direction isn't needed
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Speaker 4: sometimes or is that a trap we get into his.
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Speaker 1: Fans, Well, it isn't. It isn't. I go back, and
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna use Shaka as another example.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, because when Shaka was at VCU and he was
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Speaker 3: the guy, and everybody loved him because everybody loves the
15:32
Speaker 3: underdogs that go go deep, right, he'd be the hot
15:34
Speaker 3: guy Texas, the Longhorns. You know, football is number one there,
15:40
Speaker 3: but basketball was always good. They had Rick Barnes there
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Speaker 3: for fifteen sixteen. He was a really good, successful guy,
15:46
Speaker 3: had recruited Kevin Durant, DJ Ford, had National Players of
15:49
Speaker 3: the Year, had some good success there. But he went
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Speaker 3: six or seven years without making a Sweet sixteen and
15:55
Speaker 3: they punted him for Shaka, And which is what people want. Now,
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Speaker 3: go get it young and go get a young, energetic guy.
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Speaker 3: This guy spare us, though, who are you gonna get argument?
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Speaker 3: There's tons of young and Enterteck mid Major.
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Speaker 1: We got the guideline.
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Speaker 3: Because they were sick of Rick Barnes not being able
16:10
Speaker 3: to break through and get to the sweet sixteen for
16:13
Speaker 3: six or seven years in a row. They went and
16:14
Speaker 3: got Shaka and that didn't work. So it doesn't always work.
16:18
Speaker 3: And then they're they're like now, and then Rick Barnes
16:20
Speaker 3: leaves and goes to Tennessee like he's still a really
16:23
Speaker 3: good Hall of Fame coach. Check ahead, and it's like okay,
16:26
Speaker 3: and then then they now that you stumbling in the
16:28
Speaker 3: wilderness for a while.
16:29
Speaker 4: And there's a lot of guys that do get Those
16:31
Speaker 4: young mid major coaches that are the hot coaches that
16:34
Speaker 4: don't aren't able to get it done.
16:35
Speaker 5: There's a lot of hot mid major coaches fired by
16:38
Speaker 5: high majors every year.
16:39
Speaker 4: I mean, I remember when Saint Peter's made the run
16:41
Speaker 4: on Shaheen Holloway was a slam dung higher for seat
16:43
Speaker 4: in the Hall, and it didn't last long because he
16:46
Speaker 4: couldn't win. Now, there were also funding and all those
16:48
Speaker 4: other issues portal nil. But it just doesn't always work,
16:52
Speaker 4: I mean because of that, So there's all guarantee either way,
16:55
Speaker 4: So you have to try and make the best decision
16:57
Speaker 4: you can and yeah, Shaka seemed.
16:58
Speaker 1: Like a good hire for Texas.
17:00
Speaker 4: They wanted to get to the next level and Shaka
17:02
Speaker 4: had good teams and couldn't win in March.
17:03
Speaker 1: Could when? When?
17:05
Speaker 4: But when they let him go and Marquette was looking
17:07
Speaker 4: for an improving over wo Joe. That was one man's
17:09
Speaker 4: trash was another man's treasure to Marquette fans. And it
17:12
Speaker 4: did work out well, I think, not this year notwithstanding,
17:15
Speaker 4: but overall since he's been here, Shaka's had good teams.
17:18
Speaker 4: Finally made one second weekend, but even there people have said, well,
17:21
Speaker 4: it could be more, could be more. Everybody wants deeper
17:24
Speaker 4: March success and that's what come.
17:26
Speaker 3: Then when is it not enough? Because I brought up Izzo.
17:29
Speaker 3: Izzo's the godfather, right and he hasn't won a championship
17:32
Speaker 3: since two thousand?
17:33
Speaker 1: What's the center? He's been to a couple of final fours.
17:35
Speaker 1: When is that?
17:35
Speaker 3: Like they go to tournament every year, they make it
17:38
Speaker 3: to the second weekend every year. Yeah, when's that not enough?
17:41
Speaker 1: Right? Again, it's a great question.
17:43
Speaker 3: Rady and Belichick never lost except for that ten year
17:45
Speaker 3: gap between championships.
17:47
Speaker 1: Yep, like that everybody forgets the missing years. You're totally
17:50
Speaker 1: totally right.
17:51
Speaker 3: But they stayed the course, Like during those ten years,
17:53
Speaker 3: why didn't they break it up? Why didn't they fire Belichick? Well,
17:55
Speaker 3: because they didn't win. He was still pretty good. It
17:57
Speaker 3: ended up being the right thing to do. I don't know, man,
18:01
Speaker 3: When do you know it's time? When is the is this?
18:05
Speaker 3: Is this lunch meat that we've had in the fridge
18:06
Speaker 3: for a week and a half still good?
18:08
Speaker 1: Should we throw it away?
18:10
Speaker 4: Yeah?
18:10
Speaker 1: Do I make one last sandwich.
18:11
Speaker 2: Out of it?
18:13
Speaker 1: Another one out of it? It's funny.
18:15
Speaker 4: I think about when when the Bucks fired Buttenholzer, and
18:19
Speaker 4: there's so much frustration now about Doc from Bucks fans
18:21
Speaker 4: and obviously and there's so many people. Example, this goes
18:24
Speaker 4: back to when when we fired Butenholzer, Mike but there
18:28
Speaker 4: was there were so many people that said, you can't
18:30
Speaker 4: lose to an eight seed, hold them accountable.
18:32
Speaker 1: Something has to be done.
18:33
Speaker 4: We have to move on from Bootenholser and the Bucks
18:35
Speaker 4: did so how many of those people will go back
18:38
Speaker 4: and not admit it, but regret saying that, you know what,
18:41
Speaker 4: we should have got Bootenholezer. So you know, there you
18:44
Speaker 4: have to be honest with your own energy on that
18:46
Speaker 4: one sometimes and no one can see the future. We're
18:49
Speaker 4: all just trying our best.
18:50
Speaker 3: Let's change the paint color and the color of the
18:53
Speaker 3: drapes in the room where we get kicked in the
18:54
Speaker 3: Nats because it's.
18:55
Speaker 1: Gonna happen with the next guy too. Why don't you
18:58
Speaker 1: just accept that as your defaul position in.
19:02
Speaker 4: The end.
19:02
Speaker 1: You're right, you know your team will not win the
19:04
Speaker 1: champions every year. It's failure most of the time. That's
19:09
Speaker 1: how you judge. You're right, they kicked in the nuts.
19:11
Speaker 3: I look at process, and I think their process is
19:13
Speaker 3: sout results, not great. Process solid, So that gives you
19:17
Speaker 3: a little bit longer leash for me.
19:18
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I get like Aaron on the text line,
19:20
Speaker 5: he goes, maybe we just do we don't extend the
19:23
Speaker 5: contract every single off season and make him earn something
19:26
Speaker 5: for once. He's hearing with a couple of big ten
19:28
Speaker 5: regular season titles, which also would be a case in
19:31
Speaker 5: there big part of it. But the uh, the the
19:35
Speaker 5: extending the contract every off season, I do get that
19:39
Speaker 5: that doesn't always allow for uh there there, it's an
19:42
Speaker 5: easy little punching bag each How on earth you're extending Well,
19:45
Speaker 5: it's more of a procedural thing, and a lot of
19:47
Speaker 5: times the bio doesn't even get affected by that one.
19:50
Speaker 1: But it's a part of it. It's part of it.
19:52
Speaker 1: It's optics, yeah, right in the optics.
19:54
Speaker 5: Optics are never good when you just lost to a
19:58
Speaker 5: guy that is now on Good Morning America.
19:59
Speaker 1: So I got a look at this kid. That's absolutely
20:02
Speaker 1: thanks a lot, John.
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Speaker 3: Badgers man, thanks for joining us.
21:19
Speaker 1: We appreciate it. Today we're all working through this.
21:22
Speaker 3: What was it like to be court sided and to
21:23
Speaker 3: be on the plane and come back with the squad yesterday?
21:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, a little surreal. I mean, we know the history
21:30
Speaker 2: of Wisconsin in five twelve games, it's not good. They
21:33
Speaker 2: won a game as a twelve, but only one year
21:36
Speaker 2: have they advanced as a five. And they needed a
21:40
Speaker 2: Freddie Owens pretty much a buzzer beater to get through
21:44
Speaker 2: to the round of sixteen. You know my theme going
21:47
Speaker 2: into the game, was that history doesn't matter, you know,
21:50
Speaker 2: this is everything is different now. But the defensive flaws
21:55
Speaker 2: showed up again. You know. The first half high point
21:58
Speaker 2: was able to drive the ball really quick, guard Rob Marton,
22:01
Speaker 2: he was able to get to the rim. And in
22:03
Speaker 2: the second half they were hitting a bunch of threes.
22:06
Speaker 2: Martin came into the game three for his last twenty
22:11
Speaker 2: six from the three point line. He hit four of
22:14
Speaker 2: them yesterday. Chase Johnston. Everybody who follows this and who
22:20
Speaker 2: you know prepped, which is kind of what I have
22:23
Speaker 2: to do. I know that Chase Johnson is a really
22:25
Speaker 2: good three point shooter. That's all he does, with one
22:29
Speaker 2: exception yesterday when he leaked out on the break, but
22:32
Speaker 2: that was only his third attempt I believe from inside
22:35
Speaker 2: the three point line. But they got hot in the
22:38
Speaker 2: second half. I mean, you look at wiscons statistically, offensively,
22:42
Speaker 2: you shoot about forty eight percent. You're thirty nine percent
22:44
Speaker 2: from three, You're eleven to twelve at the foul line.
22:48
Speaker 2: Not a lot of free throws. But when you get there,
22:50
Speaker 2: you're able to knock him down. But a couple of
22:53
Speaker 2: other things are really glaric. They got out rebounded, they're
22:56
Speaker 2: bigger than high Point, but that didn't matter fast break
22:59
Speaker 2: point sixteen to five. High Point is good in transition.
23:04
Speaker 2: Wisconsin has been better than it usually is in transition
23:07
Speaker 2: sixteen to five, and you know the bench points, wis
23:11
Speaker 2: constant only played seven, but it was twenty eight to thirteen,
23:14
Speaker 2: but high pointed two guys and who had double doubles.
23:18
Speaker 2: But Chase Johnston, you know, going all Steph Curry or
23:22
Speaker 2: whatever reference you want to make, bombing them from thirty
23:25
Speaker 2: thirty five feet away. Credit to them, man, I mean,
23:29
Speaker 2: they're they're really good. I know the coach went off
23:32
Speaker 2: on the whole mid major thing, you know, pats off.
23:34
Speaker 2: When maybe when they change the analytics to all this
23:37
Speaker 2: stuff and it makes sense to schedule programs like Highpoint,
23:41
Speaker 2: they'll do it. But there was a great moment for them.
23:44
Speaker 2: My gut feeling is they'll get kurb stopped tomorrow. I
23:47
Speaker 2: would like to see them win and beat Arkansas, but
23:50
Speaker 2: I've seen this before where you have a magical day
23:53
Speaker 2: and it's a very good team. But let's see what
23:56
Speaker 2: happens on Saturday. I'll be kind of quietly pulling for
24:00
Speaker 2: him because I think they're good. I think that coach
24:02
Speaker 2: gets it. But it was just, you know, for Wisconsin, well,
24:05
Speaker 2: we always talk about this, the Big ten Tournament. In
24:08
Speaker 2: the moment, it's the most important thing. Who was thinking
24:11
Speaker 2: about the Big ten Tournament and how well they played
24:13
Speaker 2: last week? Who was thinking about that yesterday afternoon about
24:16
Speaker 2: whatever time it would have been here going on three o'clock.
24:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, I try, I was trying.
24:21
Speaker 5: I was trying to bring it up to the folks
24:22
Speaker 5: at the sportsbook, and then nobody was having it.
24:25
Speaker 2: Matt.
24:26
Speaker 1: It's a tough spot.
24:26
Speaker 5: I didn't know we were going to get I didn't
24:28
Speaker 5: know my man was going to cut a WWE promo
24:30
Speaker 5: after the game. On the other side, if I would have
24:32
Speaker 5: known that, if they would have put that in the
24:33
Speaker 5: bracket information, it would have looked a little bit different.
24:36
Speaker 5: But you hit on it with Rob don't call me
24:39
Speaker 5: Remy Martin. When when he's able to hit from the outside,
24:42
Speaker 5: you knew he was going to be able to get
24:43
Speaker 5: downhill a little bit. But it did feel like maybe
24:46
Speaker 5: the lack of ability to control the glass kind of
24:50
Speaker 5: jumped at him later in the game, right, I think
24:52
Speaker 5: one of the toughest mistakes in the game faux pause.
24:56
Speaker 5: It's final ten seconds of a game is everyone clash
24:59
Speaker 5: crash in the offensive glass let the leaguer obviously out.
25:03
Speaker 5: Do you think that had anything to do with just
25:05
Speaker 5: the way and the aggression that you know, high Point
25:08
Speaker 5: was attacking the glass. It felt like the Badgers felt
25:11
Speaker 5: like they needed to rise to that occasion because of
25:13
Speaker 5: how much it had been controlled by the Panthers.
25:16
Speaker 2: Yeah. And I think in that situation, you're trying to
25:18
Speaker 2: clean up a miss. You're talking to the missed and
25:22
Speaker 2: wisconstant missed a lot of layups too in this game.
25:24
Speaker 2: You know, for as well as Boyd was driving it
25:26
Speaker 2: down the stretch, you know that that second to last
25:31
Speaker 2: shot and they look they hit the bottom of the
25:33
Speaker 2: rima and Wisconsin just got They were just out of
25:38
Speaker 2: balance and you get a leak out and that's what
25:41
Speaker 2: high Point does. It's kind of not unlike a Michigan
25:44
Speaker 2: State in that regard. You know they're going to get
25:45
Speaker 2: it make or miss. They want to try to get
25:47
Speaker 2: it up the floor in a hurry. And I should
25:49
Speaker 2: add that Martin had ten assists in the game, so
25:51
Speaker 2: they actually had three guys with double doubles ten assistant
25:54
Speaker 2: One turnover. The book on him was that he was
25:57
Speaker 2: really really fast kind of claiming that and claim and
26:00
Speaker 2: say it's the fastest guard he's ever coached. And what
26:03
Speaker 2: most hard to tell? You know, the big they dominated
26:07
Speaker 2: the Big South, but just in prepping for the game,
26:09
Speaker 2: watching some of their games that it's a lot of
26:12
Speaker 2: teams that really are very good in the Big South.
26:14
Speaker 2: So you really but High Point didn't get a chance.
26:18
Speaker 2: It's like Miami, Miami RedHawks is similar thing. They just
26:22
Speaker 2: they didn't get a chance. And a lot of that
26:26
Speaker 2: though in the bigger picture, Billy, you know, kind of
26:29
Speaker 2: diverting from the topic here a little bit is that
26:31
Speaker 2: with all the analytics and where the net rankings are,
26:36
Speaker 2: for high majors to schedule or to for high majors
26:40
Speaker 2: to schedule really good, big major teams, that comes at
26:43
Speaker 2: risk because it goes into the books. Is a probably
26:46
Speaker 2: a quad four loss if you lose it. So you're
26:50
Speaker 2: not going to be in a big hurry to do that.
26:51
Speaker 2: Would it be great for the sport if they did it, sure,
26:55
Speaker 2: but how many programs. It's like any sport, you're not
26:58
Speaker 2: thinking about the big you're thinking about you're thinking about
27:01
Speaker 2: your programs, right, Yeah, So that's that's the dilemma they faced. Now, hey,
27:05
Speaker 2: if they go out and beat Arkansas tomorrow, then you know, yeah,
27:09
Speaker 2: then you prove that your further proof of how good
27:13
Speaker 2: you are. But watching them yesterday, but well, that's they're
27:17
Speaker 2: they're good. I mean they went out and won the game.
27:20
Speaker 2: I don't think Wisconsin they were weaker in certain areas,
27:24
Speaker 2: but I don't think they were out there and played
27:26
Speaker 2: lousy basketball.
27:28
Speaker 4: They's got beat correct and by one possession. I mean,
27:31
Speaker 4: that's what it comes down to.
27:32
Speaker 5: Well, Matt, and you mentioned it, would it be good
27:34
Speaker 5: for the game? Yeah, Now show me in the last
27:36
Speaker 5: five years where all the decisions that they're made are
27:39
Speaker 5: just because it's good for the game, not just good
27:41
Speaker 5: for a pocketbook, and like until they're until they find
27:44
Speaker 5: a way I think to monetize it all year long.
27:45
Speaker 5: I don't know that it's gonna change, and I would actually,
27:48
Speaker 5: to your point, I think it probably even furthers it widens,
27:51
Speaker 5: because there's not gonna be unless it's in the Maui Invitational,
27:55
Speaker 5: and you don't have a whole lot of saying it.
27:57
Speaker 5: I don't think you're gonna see these these teams match
27:59
Speaker 5: up during the regular seas and all that much.
28:00
Speaker 2: It would be great if you did. But at the
28:03
Speaker 2: same time, too, you have to look at that roster
28:05
Speaker 2: turnover year to year. High Point is built through the portal,
28:09
Speaker 2: and this is the acclaim his first year as the
28:11
Speaker 2: head coach, But that roster is probably gonna look a
28:14
Speaker 2: lot different next year. So you you put together your
28:17
Speaker 2: schedule and you think you have an idea of where
28:21
Speaker 2: that program is going to be. But the way these
28:24
Speaker 2: these rosters turn over, who's to say, you know, how
28:28
Speaker 2: how good either Wisconsin or High Point will be. And
28:32
Speaker 2: and the other thing, Billy, I don't know if it's
28:34
Speaker 2: no matter the sport or maybe anything, who the hell
28:38
Speaker 2: does something for the greater good? It's always what's any
28:41
Speaker 2: for me. We're seeing that with college football. We're seeing
28:44
Speaker 2: that with it. It's not you know, they're going to
28:46
Speaker 2: expand this tournament. It's going to happen. We will bitch
28:50
Speaker 2: and moan about it, because that's the one thing we
28:53
Speaker 2: do at a world class level as American sports fans.
28:56
Speaker 2: This bitch and moan. We call it multitasking. It's gonna happen.
29:01
Speaker 2: It'll be since seventy six is seventy eight whatever, we
29:05
Speaker 2: will bitch and moan and then guess what, get over
29:08
Speaker 2: and watch.
29:09
Speaker 1: Live through it. Right, I'll watch it.
29:11
Speaker 3: We're talking about leapay Voice and the Badgers here on
29:13
Speaker 3: the huddle. Blackwell and boy both over twenty points, both
29:16
Speaker 3: shooting fifty percent.
29:17
Speaker 1: You give me that box score, and.
29:18
Speaker 3: I'm like, there's no way Wisconsin los right to high
29:21
Speaker 3: Point or even to Arkansas.
29:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, what was weird about it is that, you know,
29:27
Speaker 2: Blackwell had twenty of his twenty two in the first
29:29
Speaker 2: half and then they kind of shut him off. Nick
29:32
Speaker 2: Boyd had twenty of his twenty seven in the second half.
29:36
Speaker 2: Another thing in this game that high Point deserves credit
29:39
Speaker 2: for Wisconsin only attempted twenty three threes. I think I
29:45
Speaker 2: mentioned it on the air yesterday. I think the only
29:48
Speaker 2: game where they had fewer attempts was Milwaukee, and there
29:51
Speaker 2: were four for twenty four. They couldn't hit water from
29:53
Speaker 2: a boat from three, but won the game, you know,
29:56
Speaker 2: pretty handily that night in Madison. But this is a
30:01
Speaker 2: team where fifty two percent of its shots are threes. Well,
30:04
Speaker 2: yesterday it was closer to a third of the shots.
30:07
Speaker 2: He had twenty three of the sixty five. So high Point,
30:11
Speaker 2: I mean they were out like Braydon Carryton, for instance,
30:14
Speaker 2: he gets the ball and someone and someone is on
30:16
Speaker 2: him and he really didn't have much of a chance
30:20
Speaker 2: to get into rhythm. And on the flip side, Chase
30:22
Speaker 2: Johnston didn't need a lot of space and one time
30:25
Speaker 2: he just flipped it from the mid court logo. But
30:29
Speaker 2: he had some space on his three other threes that
30:32
Speaker 2: he made, and he's got a very quick release. He
30:35
Speaker 2: is the ultimate three point specialist. But they had forty
30:39
Speaker 2: attempts from the three point but only twenty three for
30:42
Speaker 2: Wisconsin that other than the Milwaukee game, they haven't had one.
30:47
Speaker 1: That's a great point.
30:48
Speaker 4: It's an underrated aspect of not just preventing teams, yeah,
30:51
Speaker 4: from making them, but taking them.
30:53
Speaker 1: Like you said, it's all about volume a lot.
30:55
Speaker 4: And I remember tweeting at a half time, I think
30:56
Speaker 4: we're gonna see eighty combined threes in this game. And
30:59
Speaker 4: then points started making theirs in the second half. They
31:02
Speaker 4: were kind of cold, and that was another big factor.
31:04
Speaker 2: And that was the part that was really a little
31:07
Speaker 2: scary or a lot scary the first half. Butch and
31:09
Speaker 2: I were looking at each other. High point in the
31:11
Speaker 2: first half was six of twenty three from three didn't
31:13
Speaker 2: make it, yeah, and was down by two because Wisconsin
31:18
Speaker 2: couldn't stop dribble penetration in the game. And you know,
31:22
Speaker 2: Martin really got going and it's just this was the
31:25
Speaker 2: well Clark Kellogg was right, you know, he called it
31:28
Speaker 2: on Selection Sunday. A couple of a couple of butch
31:30
Speaker 2: these guys that feel was sixty eight. They're familiar with
31:32
Speaker 2: the high Point program. I really you try to keep
31:37
Speaker 2: an open mind as a broadcaster, but I did not
31:40
Speaker 2: expect that yesterday. I thought the only way Wisconsin was
31:42
Speaker 2: going to lose if the Badgers turned it over a lot. Well,
31:46
Speaker 2: there were ten turnovers. Points off. Turnovers were nine to
31:48
Speaker 2: five in favor of Wisconsin, so you know they they
31:52
Speaker 2: protected the ball at a good level per usual to
31:56
Speaker 2: this program. Yesterday, high Point was just better. I mean,
32:01
Speaker 2: it's hard to swallow. You see the brand, but high
32:05
Speaker 2: Point doesn't give a rats ass about the brand. They
32:07
Speaker 2: went out there and play and they want it and
32:09
Speaker 2: they deserve it.
32:10
Speaker 1: Make eight of your last eleven shots and it's gonna
32:13
Speaker 1: be hard to lose. Yeah, that's not any empty possessions.
32:17
Speaker 5: Really, no doubt Matt when when you say it, because
32:20
Speaker 5: I'm right there with you. Now I am potentially getting
32:25
Speaker 5: pig sueed in my in my comments because I was
32:27
Speaker 5: kind of out worried about the thought Badgers are kind
32:29
Speaker 5: of bullish on where they were at there how many
32:33
Speaker 5: different times and where would you said, I hate to
32:35
Speaker 5: put you on the spot here. Do you think that
32:37
Speaker 5: you could measure it up as the like, how stunning
32:40
Speaker 5: or where it would be in that higher because you've
32:42
Speaker 5: seen so many great teams. We're talking to so many
32:44
Speaker 5: fans here today that like this always happens, but it
32:47
Speaker 5: only happens now, and like, well, they've also had a
32:50
Speaker 5: lot of different situations. You mentioned twelve five's haven't been
32:53
Speaker 5: the greatest and the most friendly to the Badgers are
32:56
Speaker 5: there are a couple other times that you can remember
32:58
Speaker 5: saying I definitely didn't expect that result that we just
33:01
Speaker 5: saw yesterday.
33:02
Speaker 2: A little bit with James Madison a couple of years ago,
33:05
Speaker 2: but that game was relatively speaking, it was uncompetitive. Yeah,
33:08
Speaker 2: you know, Wisconsin just got bothered by a team that
33:12
Speaker 2: got into them and was really physical and they turned
33:14
Speaker 2: it over. And Wisconsin had played really well in the
33:16
Speaker 2: Big Ten tournament, and again we saw what that meant
33:20
Speaker 2: and that was that surprised me. That year, one of
33:25
Speaker 2: Bo's teams, it was actually before they got into their
33:28
Speaker 2: back to back final fours, they as a five. They
33:31
Speaker 2: lost Old Miss and didn't look very good doing it.
33:36
Speaker 2: You know a couple of other games, you know, one
33:38
Speaker 2: of Dick Bennett's teams, the one in nineteen ninety nine
33:42
Speaker 2: where they scored a whopping thirty two points, so again
33:44
Speaker 2: Southwest Missouri state coach by Steve Alford. But yeah, I
33:49
Speaker 2: mean yesterday probably was at least in the moment, the
33:54
Speaker 2: biggest surprise for me. I mean it just you know,
33:58
Speaker 2: Wisconsin had not lost to in a row until now,
34:01
Speaker 2: Wisconsin had not lost win scoring eighty points until now.
34:05
Speaker 2: There were trends that were favorable to the Badgers to
34:09
Speaker 2: win the game. But yesterday, I would in the moment,
34:13
Speaker 2: I would say that that was the biggest surprise to
34:17
Speaker 2: me because the last year's first round game, it was
34:20
Speaker 2: a little tense and then Carter Gilmore hit some big
34:22
Speaker 2: shots and the Badgers git separation, and I was thinking
34:26
Speaker 2: that was happening yesterday when it was seventy to sixty two.
34:29
Speaker 2: But then there were some empty possessions for Wisconsin, and
34:32
Speaker 2: then Johnston comes down and you know, they come down
34:34
Speaker 2: and bank another three and then they're right there. And
34:37
Speaker 2: when you're a team like High Point, you know there
34:39
Speaker 2: was some pressure. They're trying to make history, trying to
34:41
Speaker 2: win an NCAA tournament game for the first time, but
34:44
Speaker 2: in a big way. You're playing with house money. And
34:48
Speaker 2: you know, there were empty seats there, but as the
34:50
Speaker 2: crowd was a fair amount, but as the crowd was
34:52
Speaker 2: filling in for the later games, pretty obvious who the
34:56
Speaker 2: home team was. And that's that's how this works in
34:59
Speaker 2: the NCAA tournament. So it was it's it's the it's
35:04
Speaker 2: the beauty and the beast of this. They had a
35:06
Speaker 2: twenty four win season, you know, twice as many as Marquette.
35:11
Speaker 2: Come on, but if you're one. But if you're a
35:17
Speaker 2: Marquette fan, you're laughing today, and I get it. I
35:20
Speaker 2: don't know if i'd laugh too much. You won twelve.
35:23
Speaker 1: But you know, Harmon played some music for now.
35:29
Speaker 2: It's kind of a trend in this state. I mean, yeah,
35:34
Speaker 2: more numbers on that, yeah, I mean the Packers and
35:38
Speaker 2: what have they done lately? The Breweries have won three
35:41
Speaker 2: rounds of playoff baseball in forty three years. Think about
35:46
Speaker 2: that because it's hard. You know, they won ninety seven,
35:50
Speaker 2: that's awesome, you know, got by the Cubs and then
35:53
Speaker 2: that was it. It's hard. It's hard to do that. And uh,
35:56
Speaker 2: you know, this was a good team that had a
36:01
Speaker 2: day that wasn't great for them, and a lot of
36:03
Speaker 2: other stuff in the moment gets gets washed out. But
36:06
Speaker 2: in time, I think their thing now is roster construction,
36:10
Speaker 2: roster retention, keep players, and then you have to fill
36:16
Speaker 2: in some holes. You got to try to find another playmaker,
36:19
Speaker 2: I would think through the portal. But there's gonna be
36:21
Speaker 2: a lot going on with this program and many others
36:26
Speaker 2: between now and when the portal officially opens in a
36:28
Speaker 2: few weeks. But by the time the portal opens, you
36:32
Speaker 2: probably know what you want, you know who you want,
36:35
Speaker 2: and then it's a matter of who are you able
36:37
Speaker 2: to keep and those are all big, big questions looming
36:40
Speaker 2: for this program moving forward.
36:41
Speaker 3: That's right, and Matt, we've been saying today the results
36:44
Speaker 3: are the results, and results are all that matter, but
36:46
Speaker 3: no process matters, and the process is solid like the
36:49
Speaker 3: way they've been used the portal and bringing guys in
36:51
Speaker 3: and winning games. The process is alid if the process
36:54
Speaker 3: was shaky, absolutely unacceptable result.
36:57
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, I was listening to you earlier too, Drew,
37:00
Speaker 2: and it made so much sense, like whatever you're doing,
37:03
Speaker 2: if it doesn't work, goes wrong, you got to do
37:04
Speaker 2: it the other way. And you know we've seen that.
37:08
Speaker 2: You know, there's a lot of reasons I think why
37:09
Speaker 2: Wisconsin football isn't very good right now. But you know,
37:13
Speaker 2: people were very antsy. They were it wasn't good enough.
37:17
Speaker 2: What was going on. You make a change and it's regressed,
37:22
Speaker 2: and you see this time and again. I think this
37:25
Speaker 2: is a staff that has great institutional knowledge. It knows
37:29
Speaker 2: what Wisconsin is, and it knows what Wisconsin isn't. There
37:33
Speaker 2: are a lot of folks who don't understand that this
37:36
Speaker 2: is a program that's not a blue blood. This is
37:38
Speaker 2: you know, you have flashes of greatness. The back to
37:42
Speaker 2: back final four is obviously what bo did was tremendous.
37:45
Speaker 2: It's not Duke, it's not Kansas, it's not that. So
37:52
Speaker 2: sometimes we start to think that we're something that we're not.
37:55
Speaker 2: Any I would say that in the professional sense too.
37:57
Speaker 2: With the Bucks, they had magic happened a few years
38:00
Speaker 2: years ago. Okay, you embrace it, you cherish it for
38:04
Speaker 2: the rest of your life. But when you start expecting
38:07
Speaker 2: that every year, it's okay to have a high ball.
38:09
Speaker 2: As a fans, it's just it's perfectly good. You know,
38:12
Speaker 2: we dream the big dreams. But when you start expecting it,
38:16
Speaker 2: you're in and you're out when game balls and kicks
38:20
Speaker 2: to the walls, that's kind of what you're setting yourself up.
38:22
Speaker 1: You're going to line them up.
38:23
Speaker 5: It's a lot easier to get those get those wins, Drew,
38:25
Speaker 5: when you have two top twenty picks in the NBA.
38:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, that generally does speak Matt.
38:29
Speaker 5: What was there a good group chat between the Big
38:31
Speaker 5: Ten broadcasters celebrating Kent yesterday that video of the call
38:35
Speaker 5: for Nebraska when he gets that celebrated, that was awesome yesterday.
38:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was good for him and good
38:42
Speaker 2: for the fan base there, because I do think that's
38:44
Speaker 2: one of the best fan bases. It's one of the
38:46
Speaker 2: best atmospheres in the Big Ten. I put it in
38:48
Speaker 2: that group with with Purdue, with Michigan State, with Illinois.
38:52
Speaker 2: Nebraska's in that upper tier. And you know, I just
38:55
Speaker 2: remember in ninety four when I was with the Badgers
38:58
Speaker 2: out in Ogden, Utah and maybe Cincinnati, and you know,
39:01
Speaker 2: it felt like they had just won the Natty. You know,
39:03
Speaker 2: they they won a tournament game, you know, for the
39:05
Speaker 2: first time and forever. They got in for the first
39:08
Speaker 2: time since nineteen forty seven, so and for the Huskers
39:12
Speaker 2: and more recently with the Northwestern several years ago to
39:16
Speaker 2: finally breaking the seal. And now, you know, I hope
39:19
Speaker 2: for their sake, they you know, they got that out
39:21
Speaker 2: of the way. You know that they don't have that
39:23
Speaker 2: albatross now just now you really let it rip because
39:27
Speaker 2: their their best is really, really good. They were kind
39:31
Speaker 2: of stumbling a bit at the end of the regular season,
39:33
Speaker 2: punched out right away in the Big Ten tournament, but now.
39:37
Speaker 1: Maybe they time.
39:39
Speaker 2: But it's one of my big pet peeves though, Andrew,
39:41
Speaker 2: I don't know where you are on this, covering the
39:43
Speaker 2: Brewers just for as long as he did or all
39:45
Speaker 2: of you guys. If I hear one more person in
39:49
Speaker 2: our industry talk about momentum, you're hot going in I
39:53
Speaker 2: mean for high Point. Yeah, it's one fifteen in a
39:56
Speaker 2: row now, but if you can look it up, you
39:59
Speaker 2: see teams is in the NCAA tournament. Who are stumbling
40:02
Speaker 2: and stammering in c State. Yeah, you know, check out
40:08
Speaker 2: how they were, how they were playing going into the postseason.
40:11
Speaker 2: They had to they had to play their way to
40:13
Speaker 2: get into the tournament. And then and there, you know,
40:17
Speaker 2: Syracuse several years ago, it was a similar thing. I
40:21
Speaker 2: think Yukon when Kevin Ollie was there there. It's off
40:26
Speaker 2: the top of my head here, but it doesn't. And
40:28
Speaker 2: Wisconsin has shown well in the Big Ten Tournament each
40:31
Speaker 2: of the last three years, and it turned out to
40:35
Speaker 2: be irrelevant in terms of trying to project success in
40:38
Speaker 2: the NCAA tournament.
40:39
Speaker 3: And now we're onto spring football and hockey and high
40:42
Speaker 3: school basketball faster than we wanted to be. We got
40:46
Speaker 3: some other stuff going on. Absolutely, Matt, thanks for joining
40:49
Speaker 3: us early. Appreciate it. We'll be talking to you down
40:52
Speaker 3: the line. All boys, take care of the Badger's Hall
40:55
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40:57
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40:59
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